ark-2

[calm scaffold]

even though the general consensus is that ark 1 combat is just m1 mash

[jade nimbus]

Co-op is a game style where you need to work together to achieve things. Multiplayer games are games where you can play together in the same server/world but you don't have to actually work together it's like singleplayer but with multiple people in the same server.

[calm scaffold]

The main thing I hope actually makes it into the combat is the fact they said "combos"

Even if small pulling off a combo is soooo much better then a watered down souls combat which is just dodge-m1-dodge repeat

[frigid prism]

I mean I see Ark and I think everyone seems Ark as a game where you can make a tribe and work with them, make your base, kill bosses, that’s why there is a single player difficulty because game is hard on single player.

[calm scaffold]

aka conan exiles spear combat dodge spam slop

[frigid prism]

Maybe raid to other tribes idk

[jade nimbus]

Yes, totally. But everything is better than the current "spam MB1" method.

There is 0 skill involved in combat in ASE and ASA.

[fallow niche]

Because you can make tribes, that doesn't automatically denote it as "basically co-op"
It's not hard to do on SP, just takes longer, which is why the setting exists.

[frigid prism]

Exactly, but I am saying that ARK is mostly a coop game

ARK animated series show it

Menu screen show it too

First thing that you see when you open ARK is “Join Game” and then official servers

[jade nimbus]

Official servers are multiplayer, not co-op.

[fallow niche]

You don't have to work with people to do it. "Join Game" simply means joining an online server. It does not mean you have to play with the people on the same server. Regardless, Ark 2 has all aspects that ASE/ASA have in that aspect.

[frigid prism]

Magbe I was using a wrong word, @jade nimbus was right

Ark is mostly a multiplayer game

Even if you are working single or joining a tribe, what ARK shows you first is how to join to a server

[fallow niche]

They never stated it wouldn't be multi-player, people just assumed that it would be.

[jade nimbus]

Ark is a game that can both be played as singleplayer or multiplayer. They both have their mechanics and lots of people prefer playing multiplayer.

[frigid prism]

Because that’s the first think that ARK shows you

Every trailer, every menu screen, every wallpaper

It’s your tribe against the map

You can play single player too, but for sure what makes ARK Ark is pretty much their multiplayer

[frigid prism]

Or you tribe against other tribes… but that’s PVP

[jade nimbus]

PVP sucks

I hope Ark 2 focuses on PVE

[fallow niche]

It will have both pve and pvp.

[frigid prism]

Yep

They are not killing PVP since they do have thousand more of hours played that PVE players

Also that’s what keep the game alive and mods

[harsh spear]

i like pvp but i wish it wasnt so punishing as to losing all of your progress in an instant.

if it was just that if u kill someone u get their inventory that would be perfect i think. but the whole raiding and destroying a base is too much.

[frigid prism]

That’s pretty much the point

[digital pendant]

what are the chances for a trailer at game awards?

[stray elm]

I'm more expecting a trailer for a new Half-Life game then I am for ARK-2.

[digital pendant]

lol

[surreal pasture]

Will ark 2 have modding features

?

[radiant fiber]

ark 2 is not a thing, its just investor bait

They delayed it for 3 years in a row, t

first anounced for 2022, then, 2023 and now, 2024 and soon, It is going to get delayed again

[floral crater]

Ark 2 bad

[slate orbit]

Ark 2 tem previsão de lançamento?

[fallow niche]

@arctic mantle Please read the pins. This is for the pc/console sequel Ark 2. Mobile has a separate discord.

[oak anchor]

just to remind you all, this has not happened yet

so sad moment

[calm scaffold]

time to see...

[verbal estuary]

50/50 chance for ark 2 trailer lfg

[true viper]

Take this for what it's worth here, but I did hear a remixed version of the Ark II theme in the game awards stream

[zenith mist]

There is a 0% chance lol

[true viper]

I would like to think that it means we might see something new

[orchid reef]

Anyone else hear the Ark music playing before the pre show started???

Dont know if that means a trailer, but I 100% heard that Ark theme!!

[true viper]

Same, I'm trying to keep my expectations tempered. At the very least I don't want to see a cancelation.

[orchid reef]

SAME here. I know I heard that theme but I know these devs

I wonder if Vin diesel is still in it lol

[calm scaffold]

ngl wasnt paying attention lol

i hope yall right

they could realistically show off something maybe like a 1%

cause its coming with a delay and like imagine they hyped up a delay lmao

[orchid reef]

Yeah I feel like a delay is 100% happening, just curious what trailer, or maybe gameplay they are coming out with

[distant nova]

Wildcard, don't disappoint me again... I'm hoping for something about Ark 2.

If there's nothing about Ark 2, I'm literally going to be sure that this game is CANCELLED.

[calm scaffold]

i mean literally they either make ark 2 and attract a huge audience or the company will fail

if anything they could wait till after extinction release to not piss off the ark players by delaying ark 2

[distant nova]

They can delay it, but it's been 4 years since the ONLY trailer of Ark 2... We DESERVE a new trailer.

[stray elm]

There's been two to be fair

[distant nova]

teaser + trailer just 😢

[stray elm]

Two trailers.
Third one will probably be another cinematic trailer.

[tribal chasm]

The last time there was a trailer for Ark 2, Dollie was in the discord and going 'gogogo' or something, implying the trailer was about to come.
Given the lack of Dollie, I have no hope for an upcoming trailer 😦

[calm scaffold]

yeah i think its joever

im smelling a last second december 29th delay with 0 info

[orchid reef]

Same

[calm scaffold]

☠️

[red matrix]

no one cares about ark 2 their not going to release another game while not even being finished with the revamp game wouldnt make sense

[calm scaffold]

least desperate change denier

gn yall

[untold pond]

lol why is there a channel for a game that'll never happen?

[worldly garden]

always makes me laugh when people say no one cares, like you know what people care about. 😆

[weary canopy]

is ark 2 even still a thing to be waiting for or nah

[worldly garden]

it's still in development, whether it's a thing to be waiting for is up to you.

[distant nova]

ark 2 to me its canceled now ... I dont care NO MORE

[worldly garden]

Ok

[kindred igloo]

Hello

I am new

From india

[weak sage]

same

tamil nadu what abt u

[whole leaf]

I don’t believe you

[worldly garden]

Just so you know, this channel is not about Ark Mobile. It is about the Ark sequel with Vin Diesel.

[distant nova]

whats ark 2 ? its canceled not exist no more

[worldly garden]

For someone that doesn't care you show an awful lot of caring about it.

[distant nova]

Obviously, I care, but I'm gradually losing interest because I've been waiting since 2018 and it's been more than 4 years since the first trailer...

[true viper]

To be fair, I do get the general angst. Not even 3 weeks away from the close of the year. At the very least the people who are interested in the game should hear about its status, good or bad.

[worldly garden]

Given late 2024 was the last we officially heard it is only right they give an official update, even if it is just to say they don't have a planned date yet. Don't just keep quiet.

[true viper]

Yeah, it's the lack of communication that really gets me half the time. Financially I can understand why they wouldn't be promoting Ark II to the same or lesser extent than ASA. At the same time though, Ark II was announced and revealed first. Even if we just got concept art to gawk over until a gameplay trailer came out, that would be enough I would think.

[subtle bison]

Literally, where is it? Theres less than 20 days left of 2024... At this point they'd know if its coming out or if its delayed again. It's ridiculous

[frigid prism]

Maybe 2026

[frigid prism]

Wait to 2026

[true viper]

to the best of my knowledge, once Snails debts get paid off through ASA (and when ASA is 'finished') that's when we'll really be getting the bulk of the news and marketing campaign. I could be wrong, or not including one factor or another.

[true viper]

To be fair, there could be contracts and NDAs that have come down behind the scenes, that we would rightfully no nothing about that could be contributing to the lack of talk this month especially.

[true viper]

All of this assumes that Wildcard has the resources and time to dedicate to something like this. Realistically, we know next to nothing about the day to day operations at WC.

[full dragon]

Man surprised this is still a channel figured they'd come out and scrap ark 2 until 2035 (yes 2035 it's not a typo)

[green sail]

2020 announcement is crazy

[oak anchor]

frr girl

It is actually so stupid

[oak anchor]

there is no way its coming out this year ):

[true viper]

There's a chance we might hear something about it in the crunch tonight. Not a lot of crunches left this year.

[vernal tinsel]

I have no hope

@cunning talon when is it coming?

[dire ginkgo]

we just need than ark 2 projects (like Dino AI, world events, rival tribes on pve and other more immersive things) comes to ark ascended

[subtle pasture]

Praying ark 2 comes out so my friend plays again

[boreal plume]

Anyone remember when they said Ark 2 was delayed to December of 2024? Classic WC, Ark 2 is quiet cancelled in exchange for the new paid dlc creature

[kind summit]

When titanfall 3

[ripe gazelle]

wait so ark 2 is cancelled

[boreal plume]

Not officially, there just isn’t any new information about it, it was supposed to be released this month, but the only information we get from them is Extinction is delayed, and the animated series part 2 releases sometime next year

[ripe gazelle]

like is it gonna be like a huge open world or like ASE and ASA

[fallow niche]

Has all the info we know along with the pins
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2050420/ARK_2/

Steam

ARK 2

Suddenly awakened on a strange primal world filled with dinosaurs and humans struggling for dominance; you must piece together the history of how you arrived there, team-up with legendary heroes, and confront powerful dark forces seeking to control the fate of all life. Saddle up, and join the definitive next-generation survival experience with ...

Release Date

To be announced

▶ Play video

[hardy basin]

This game is fake😂

[calm scaffold]

😭

[calm scaffold]

ark 2 is still officially slated to release in the next 17 days

wild

[boreal plume]

What a joke

[languid hamlet]

If people stopped giving the company money they might start making better choices, but the era of gaming we’re in now enables companies to prioritize money over good products and get away with it

[uncut perch]

That's why I didn't buy the Ascended version 🙃

[languid hamlet]

My friend won a copy in a giveaway and gave it to me so I got lucky

[uncut perch]

But I really wanted after 1k+ hours in the original

But I do not support sth like this (I mean money-first choices)

[tribal chasm]

Yes same, but they have still sold 2.6 mill copies + 400,000 Bob Tales, and more from mods etc.
They are doing well money wise, but say compared to Rust, they probably don't know how to make a good community / overall balanced game.

100 player servers should be the norm in Ark 2, >main< servers should feel alive, without relying on some unofficial to do the heavy lifting

[frigid prism]

ARK 2 is coming out on 2026

[meager compass]

Where you see that?

@frigid prism

[frigid prism]

No where, that’s just obvious. ARK 2 is not realizing until ASA ends

[meager compass]

I understand your reasoning

[frigid prism]

We still have a lot of maps until Genesis 2

So it’s seems that they gonna be working on ASA DLC and maps

[meager compass]

Snail last earnings call says that they are waiting for consumer pc hardware to increase before release

[frigid prism]

That’s another thing

So maybe 2026 is going to be good

[meager compass]

Unreal 5 is part to blame

[frigid prism]

For now ASA isn’t bad, feels pretty much like a different game

[meager compass]

Should have never went there

I may buy Asa if goes on sale

[frigid prism]

It is good, you should try it

[meager compass]

Graphics don’t make the game snail

I’m just over playing ASe

I’ll prob wait until I see how good dune awakening is

I won’t pay over $20 for ASA

[calm scaffold]

exactly

me and all my friends have the same sentiment that we dont care how good the game looks were playing on low graphics lmao

i dont care about a bunch of foliage and volumetric fog garbage if its causing me to not be able to see who im fighting

[true viper]

I have to disagree a little bit. To me anyway, it helps fill in the environment.

[meager compass]

Graphics don’t make a good game but they make a good game better

[mint swan]

Que dia va a salir ark W

2

[calm scaffold]

valid

[meager compass]

I think you’re asking when does ark 2 release?

Unlimited amount of them on steam

[rotund socket]

If there is actually an ark 2 then it will probably release in 2026 or later as most of ASA development and DLCs are gonna continue until late 2025 I think

[mint swan]

Yes

[tribal chasm]

@blissful perch Elaborate your raised eyebrow 😛

[blissful perch]

Ark could extremely easily go the path of Minecraft and other games that lean exclusively on unofficial servers for multiplayer. It would save them a ton of time in administrative work, operation and administrative costs, and people are way less likely to mald over the quality of the game servers if someone else is responsible for it. Unofficials would also get way more leverage and support to make custom experiences based on player need. None of that is required obviously, but it’s a compelling choice

[tribal chasm]

Hmm good point, I suppose they could go down that path as well, might work pretty well.
I think I was comparing Rust to ASA in battlemetrics, it was just disappointing to see 500+ players on like 30 servers, vs Ark very spacious player count

[blissful perch]

Totally fair, but the issue with ark is that they haven’t yet cracked the code for how to have tons of players on a server at once

Obviously stuff needs to happen with map size, dino storage, and the need for a massive base (cough breeding) before larger player counts work…but after that tbh it’s a great idea to shift to unofficials

Not to say Minecraft is the gold standard, but the more mods/gamemodes/club ark/etc I see the more I see an ark Hypixel working in the absence of unofficials. That being said, club ark seems to be trending toward more rather than less officials in ark 2

[blissful perch]

Rust also has hard wipes that bring people back more often. Ark doesn’t do this so they always bleed players

[mint swan]

What day will ark 2 come out please?

[blissful perch]

Unknown. Keep an eye on announcements and Steam

[meager compass]

There is not date. Last official work from snail games was they are waiting for average consumer hardware to increase before releasing. Meaning most people couldn’t run the game well

@mint swan 2026 at the earliest

[mint swan]

Ok

[desert mulch]

saying there is no date and then saying this makes little sense to me

but yeah it looks very likely they will postpone the release for a while

[meager compass]

my guess is 2026. that is not what snail games has said.

@desert mulch

[fast warren]

Isn't fjordur releasing in 2026

[pastel summit]

bro ark 2 prob gonna be like 100$

[desert mulch]

ngl it would make sense for it to be about 80 even

COD games are a great example of how pricey it can be

and ark 2 is a more complex game

[true viper]

Even with how much I want to see this game come out, 80 is stretching it

[untold ingot]

No it won't. They literally won't be able to sell it

People get up in arms over $5 lol

[meager compass]

If happily pay $60 for ark 2. I’d pay over but would feel it’s a bit steep. $60 base then pay extra for DLC

[midnight phoenix]

Ark 2 will for sure be within the $60-80 range. Anything else would be stupid from a business standpoint

[stray elm]

80$ USD for a game with no additional content planned (Ultimate Editions and whatnot) aren't a thing yet. Highest is 70$
And I honestly doubt it'd be 60$, since Wildcard has had a thing with releasing early-access titles under 60$.

[midnight phoenix]

You have no idea if additional content is planned. We don’t know anything really.

We are in a market where games of that size can easily slap a price tag of $60. With all the financial problems this studio has I can easily see them figuring out a way to justify a $70 price tag

If I’m being completely honest knowing the size and scope of Ark the game should be well over the $60 price tag.

[stray elm]

Firstly, like I said. There's no way that a standalone version of a game, if they are planning on having multiple editions, will cost 80$. If you can give me an example of a single video game doing that for its standard edition, then I'll eat my words.
Secondly, if I recall right. Snail-Games has paid off the whole car situation months ago, as I believe their last quarterly update stated this and that they're steadily getting better.
So unless the economy changes even more, or Shi-Hai makes a fucky wucky again. I doubt the standard edition will be 80$.

[radiant fiber]

ark 2 is a lie

[calm scaffold]

🍰

[untold ingot]

It could be $60, but they couldn't even sell Asa for 60

[midnight phoenix]

I said 70$. There’s alot of games going for 69.99 standalone

[meager compass]

A lie snail tells their investors 😳

[blissful perch]

The average COD price tag isn’t gonna fly for a AA studio

Pricing ark 2 like monster hunter wild is also an extremely dubious play

[rotund socket]

I agree

[rotund socket]

Nah late 2025

[calm scaffold]

i want yalls opinion on an idea for ark 2 that me and my friends all agree on

for pvp you can only be raided at certain times

so for example 4 - 8 p.m is the "raid time"

good or bad what yall think

cause as long as ark 2 is actually skill expressive gameplay and not just turret spam then all this would change is force online raids (more fun) and let people actually get some sleep and not be awake 24/7 so they dont get offlined

[rotund socket]

GP….

[delicate mantle]

Ig it would be a problem with people from differnt time zones. So some people would get atacked late at night while the atacks play during the day or so. Also I think the essence of ark PvP is kind of the fear of always having the possibilty the get atacked. But thats only my personal opinion

[calm scaffold]

yeah we literally mentioned "being offlined is kinda a part of ark basically" LOL

our idea is basically just how conan exiles did it

there were like NA, EU, etc servers which had different "raid timers"

for different timezones

[delicate mantle]

didnt see it

[tender dirge]

lmfao

[runic loom]

Is ark 2 better than ase or asa?

[fallow niche]

Ark 2 hasn't released yet. This channel is for the upcoming sequel to Evolved/Ascended. It has nothing to do with mobile.

[runic loom]

Ohhhh my bad

I never mentioned ark mobile on this channel only on the #ark-survival-ascended channel

Thanks tho

[fallow niche]

It was in response to your question, as most users mentioning mobile think that this channel is for mobile.

[kindred igloo]

Hello

[rotund sentinel]

Just git Gud brother

[tribal chasm]

Maybe, but there are problems to solve, ie where you can have dinos/players waiting with explosives as soon as the PvP turns on again.
Perhaps they can have a 1 minute warmup window or something where Turrets will fire again, but structure damage is still turned off, idk.

Tbh a complete overhaul would be required to ever make PvP/raiding properly balanced.

I'd suggest they don't be afraid to steal Rust's Tool Cupboard system for Ark 2, might help with all the spam found on PvP and PvE

[untold ingot]

Not to mention the already failed experiment of timed pvp like that

[calm scaffold]

when did they experiment with it?

[untold ingot]

Mobile

[fair hollow]

Is ark 2 delayed or does it still come out in december?

[true viper]

Presumed delayed

[patent umbra]

Ark 2 delayed until 2025

[uneven wren]

?

[wispy violet]

Ark 2 delayed until gta 6 comes out

[whole widget]

Gta 6 delayed until ARK 2 comes out

[thick marsh]

Ark 2 vs Gta 6 battle of Goliaths

[nocturne gale]

they never said december

[fallow niche]

If they're not talking about the mobile revamp (which has nothing to do with this channel), then they're likely referring to Wildcard's last date, End of 2024.

[fair hollow]

The last update on Ark 2's timeline from the developer, Studio Wildcard, was made available on the official Ark website in 2023. This update explained that the game would be delayed to the end of 2024, when it would exclusively launch on Xbox, Game Pass, and PC.

[verbal dome]

ARK 2 vs GTA VI vs Subnautica 2.
this is gonna be a great year

[radiant fiber]

yes, very elaborate lie that they spent a lot of money on a trailer

[meager compass]

I was only joking

Ark 2 is real.... I think.

[paper wasp]

Elden ring 2 as well

[verbal dome]

fr

[grim kestrel]

GTA doesn't compete with anything, it just dominates. If any of these including Ark 2 release in fall of 2025 with GTA VI they will not do well.

[verbal dome]

Nah you need some other games to play after you got modded on the moon in gta 6

[untold ingot]

Lotta people play ark that would never tough gta

[meager compass]

I will say it’s prob in snails best interest to get ark 2 in the hands of players soon because ASA is doing worse than ASE. Meaning the franchise could really suffer

When I say worse, I’m referring to active player numbers

[desert mulch]

if it’s not properly optimized or taken care of at all they should delay it and really polish it off

Or he’s right and it just won’t do well, especially with other games like gta, subnautica, and Elden ring content

looking forward to hearing their news

[meager compass]

When does news come out ?

[desert mulch]

I can’t run ark 2 on my pc and won’t be able to in the foreseeable future cause Im too busy so personally I kinda hope they keep working on it with a late release 😂

[meager compass]

How does ASA run for you?

[desert mulch]

That’s greedy though. Also unconfirmed @meager compass, I just expect it when it drops or is announced to not drop.

ASE* doesn’t even run well for me

[meager compass]

What’s greedy?

Snail should report there Q4 results in late March or early April

Hoping for ark 2 news sooner though

As a back up, dune awakening is gonna be out soon hopefully

@desert mulch

[desert mulch]

HAHA my opinion on when the game should drop is greedy because its based on my personal situation

[fallow niche]

@cinder zephyr #unofficial-setup-help for server setup, but no, there has been no time announced. Likely the same around the time as anyone gets it. This channel is for Ark 2 only. Thanks.

[wanton tree]

When release

[meager compass]

lol

[nocturne rover]

Till the developer says so (prob after GTA VI release)

[main mountain]

Hi

[uncut perch]

@fallow niche why don't you change channel name from #ark-2 to sth like #upcomming-ark-2 or somethin similar. Maybe then there will be much less non-related messages 😉

[fallow niche]

Or people can just read the pinned messages or the category name. This was Ark 2 before mobile was revamping.

[uncut perch]

Yeah, do you believe that this will happen? 😄
All what I suggest is to reduce time required to send messages - and I've seen a lot of you telling people that this is the wrong channel in a last month 😉

[fallow niche]

Happened with Ascended too, will continue to happen regardless of the name of the channel.

[calm scaffold]

has there been any news talking about ark 2 and moreso the performance side of UE5?

i remember some snail games person said they wanted to wait for the ark playerbase to upgrade their systems so they could handle ark 2 but that isnt happening until literally 2030+

[fallow niche]

If we had any news from WC, it would be pinned here^

[calm scaffold]

danggg

[proven crest]

Hello

[coarse bramble]

@calm scaffold I doubt the existing options in consoles could handle it.

[calm scaffold]

absolutely not lmao

[blissful perch]

Bluntly, the PS market is not gonna carry or sink ark 2. The primary market will be PC, and what we assume is an exclusivity deal that has money attached for Xbox is enough to sweeten the loss of PS on release

[calm scaffold]

game theory: early community crunch tmrw and they delay ark 2 but use extinctions release as a soft landing

[gilded idol]

Hola

Alguien de aquí que hable español?

[lofty apex]

you cant speak spanish in this server, it is on the #rules

rules on the first page, 1.6

[mint swan]

no need to delay since there is no release date now

[fallow niche]

@torn mantle This channel is only for Ark 2. Please use the other channels for ASA, such as #general, #ark-survival-ascended, #pve-discussion, or #pvp-discussion.

[calm scaffold]

its still set for late 2024 far as i know

[mint swan]

nyop, was pushed back indefinitely

As far as we know can be tomorrow, can be in 10 years

We shall see

But def not before ASA releases all the content

[calm scaffold]

whered they say that at?

[mint swan]

No announcement, every store page got the release date removed or just doesn't exist anymore

If you check steam for example

"RELEASE DATE: To be announced"

[rotund mountain]

i remember last year when they delayed it, now there probably never going to release it

[plush belfry]

whens ark 2 ?

[slow sandal]

2045

[compact cedar]

No, 20999

[formal ice]

ARK2 is a fairy tale that they tell little children.

[radiant fiber]

yes

[distant nova]

forget ark2 ... it never come ... sorry

[radiant fiber]

a bob squad role reacted to this comment with a shush emoji, so Yeah, never comming

[hybrid torrent]

Hello

[jade nimbus]

It will come.

I still believe it will release, just not anytime soon.

[frank lintel]

Cómo puedo descargar el nuevo ark

[unreal sable]

How do I enter a ticket?

[frail harness]

ark 2 2024 😂

[wicked basalt]

Gta 6 Before Ark 2 ???????

[pulsar nest]

ark 2 2026 lmao

they obvs gonna relese all maps on asa first so easy still a year or 2 to wait for ark 2 lol

[prisma light]

they want suprise you by release on 31 Dec bruh

[snow osprey]

Add like 3 months to that for the PS release 😭

Unless xbox stops doing launch exclusives at that point which is likely

[loud kayak]

Ark 2 😂 🤡

[main mountain]

Bro

Ark2 is not work

[fast warren]

Asa itself wasn't necessary tbh

[fathom peak]

I'm surprised that so many of you know when ARK 2 is coming out or already know that it's not coming out and even the staff here have no information. It's remarkable how well informed the people here are 🙂

I had to get that off my chest

[sharp beacon]

The copium is real

[fathom peak]

I would be interested to know where you got your information from! I also want to be as well informed as you

[calm scaffold]

nah he knows bro

ark 2 has the survival open-world tags everywhere on it but its so CLEARLY a singleplayer story game

they know it all trust

[mint swan]

We do know it has several cutscenes though, thanks to an animator, so maybe it has an intro and an ending at least? We shall see

[fathom peak]

Where did you get the information that it was "canceled" or that it would only be released much later? Do you have contacts to Wildcard Developer or internal memos where this is communicated? I'm fairly good at "googling" but I haven't found any information on this yet.
Any sources or official information

I just want to be as well informed as certain members here!

[analog hamlet]

@daring badge

ARK: Survival Evolved Mobile:

The ARK Mobile official Discord can be found here:

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ARK Mobile players will always be welcome in this discord too!

[calm scaffold]

ragebait used to be believeable

if i dont see ark 2 delay news in the crunch tonight ima glorp everywhere

also if ark 2 has some UE5 slop instead of just optimization like some tacked on frame generation or TAA ima also glorp

devs are just abusing UE5s tools instead of optimizing and its making games look horrible and im fearful ark 2 will go down that path in order to save a few bucks

or DLSS or FSR

those are all signs of doom

[distant nova]

YEAAAA HAHAHAHA

Ark 2 is like the endless staircase from Mario 64 kkkkkkkk

[wicked basalt]

Lmao

[boreal plume]

Ark 2 is the carrot on a stick dangling in the community's face

[untold ingot]

If the carrot is invisible and 5 years old

[languid hamlet]

Pause

[distant nova]

The first announcement of Ark 2 was in 2018. The first trailer was released in 2020. It's been 7 years since the first announcement and 5 years since the first trailer, and almost 3 years since the first delay. Hehe.

[limpid ocean]

Ark 2 is this enerations mandela effect. in 10 years we will be told Ark 2 never existed and was never oing to exist. Ark 2 was always Ascended and the TV show. just watch we will all be alled conspiracy theorist

[distant nova]

Some people already think that Ascended is the Ark 2 that was announced in 2018

My old friend just asked me... 'where is Vin Diesel?' kkkkk

[limpid ocean]

think about it it was the perfect ploy with wildcard if they decide to continue with the ark 2 project they can. if they decide to scrap it ascended will always be ark 2 and we will be nuts

[distant nova]

I think that Wildcard REALLY needs to release Ark 2, or the company will go bankrupt, I think

[calm scaffold]

pessimism off the charts holy

[boreal plume]

The copium is finally wearing off

[true viper]

He was there from the start?

Don't really see how he alone could ruin it

[mint swan]

Shhh don't tell them he is in ASE and ASA

[versed cosmos]

When was the release date. 3/22?

[languid hamlet]

I believe so

[glad dune]

Vin diesel is gayer than any gay person, with is micro dog...smokes weed all day and make people lose their time, what a clown.

[chrome kestrel]

Isn't Vinny D being investigated for s/a? That goes against everything the company stands for. I won't be surprised if they drop his image.

[languid hamlet]

Can’t imagine using gay as an insult in 2024

[mint swan]

have you seen gen2 explorer notes and ending

Then stop complaining? XD

[languid hamlet]

Idk it’s pretty hard to imagine cause I don’t do that, silly goose

[wraith solar]

not true

[true viper]

Investigation doesn't imply guilt, not sure we can judge the game based on that alone.

External to the entire thing imo

[zenith mason]

we cant even get a time when itll drop 😦

[arctic kelp]

Ark 2 aint gon be the next ark it's a completely different thing

[visual coral]

extincion not
ark 2 is coming 🥶

[winged current]

Ark 2 is gonna be so bad I’m calling it

All the bad parts of modern gaming combined in a rip off of the forest

[echo quarry]

bold of you to think they are even making it lol

[ancient bloom]

yeah, there aren't many games that could be made that would be more surprising to see done than ark 2

a year ago i was pretty stoked for it though

[sturdy saddle]

Facts that this is a channel is wild.. they can't even get their games out developed right nevermind a new game lol

[echo quarry]

they lost me when they said souls like, I prefer survival style games

[ancient bloom]

I was willing to play either way but never really expected the souls like promise to be fulfilled

[echo quarry]

nah they prob bit off more than they could chew hence all the delays for asa and total silence on ark 2

[ancient bloom]

seems likely with all the financial woes they're said to have

ark 2 def seems like a pipe dream

[echo quarry]

the trailer was the only hope I had

[mint swan]

i can only dream bruh
this aint never coming out

[echo quarry]

nope I agree

[calm scaffold]

ark 2 is gonna be so good im calling it

[remote ember]

I hope ARK2 will never be released. I want to play Ark longer than only some years. Hope they will bring more DLC maps out. Why should be ark2 more fun? What I heard I will not like it and I don’t want to loose all my Dinos again. They could integrate it in Ark ASA, too, so ASA will be still there…

[hollow knoll]

Thank you mods 👏🏻

[haughty karma]

Thanks u mod

[trim quest]

This is kind of a design suggestion for Ark 2 that would be really neat, take the dossier designs and instead of having them be in an old notebook have them be painted onto large rocks and cliffs like cave paintings.

[toxic cedar]

Can someone start x2 please for the waiting time 🥺

[clear pelican]

s

[rugged aspen]

ark 2 2026 lol

[jovial gazelle]

Where ark 2? We ready for our Christmas gift 🎁

[unique dawn]

i remember when ark 2 was set to release 2 years ago

[languid hamlet]

It is a survival game. They didn’t say souls like, they said souls like combat.

[dusk sonnet]

발시 직아도 안 열나리?

[mint swan]

오.

[velvet mantle]

I heard ark 2 was delayed again

[golden frigate]

내가 10시부터 기다렸는데

모하냐 아크

[red crest]

why are we bothering already typing for ark 2?

[quaint moat]

Soon in 2030

[velvet mantle]

No that’s been delayed till 2035

[zinc cypress]

wishfull date, probably be later than later

[unique dawn]

i mean... "late 2024" we shoulda known it was gonna be delayed till we all got wives and kids

[velvet mantle]

It’s been delayed again 2040

[regal rapids]

ark

No credit points

[mental void]

Skmeone copy that message and put it on twitter

[bronze finch]

They changed it, they've now been saying that they're not going to work on finishing/releasing it unless Ark Ascended does really good. It's basically a money grab, they want you to pay for this $50 game that's only difference is slightly better graphics with a way higher saturation rate and a few new dinos, then pay another $5 to use a could of the dinos, then another $25 for Bob's Tall Tales, then another $5-$10 per mod map while they have countless delays to re-put out maps from ASE. So at this point I don't think Ark 2 will be anywhere in the 2020's, but maybe early to mid 2030's.

[untold ice]

This game still going to release

[languid hamlet]

Why are you spamming Ark 2 chat about this

[formal ice]

They are at least talkin bout a real game lol

[languid hamlet]

You know Dollie isn’t laughing at you right @drowsy totem

[distant nova]

ark 2 coming 🙂

between 2026 and 2070

[slow mirage]

🤡

[jovial gazelle]

Where can we see they have said that

[bronze finch]

@jovial gazelle Don't remember the exact source, I'll try and find it again and pm you the link.

[jovial gazelle]

Appreciate ya. From everything I've seen no legit updates about it since last year and that was "end of 2024" not a peep since.

[unique dawn]

yeah, its sad that wildcard is reducing their fanbase to wallets

[spark chasm]

while i agree with your perspective on a clear agenda to obtain more money from an existing userbase, i do think you're doing ASA short.

Buildling overhaul is a massive thing
Mods applied to structures that are visible by anyone is a massive thing where people can select their own mods without being dependant on the serverhost
Crossplay is amazing
Enabling creators to generate revenue via the ARK store for themselves is huge. It basically sets up the community to take care of itself for the long haul.

Sure the bobs tall tales thing is ridiculous, same with the Payable dinos like the firecat or that big bloody turtle.
BUT i wouldnt go back to ASE, (i love building)

Now if only they released Ragnarok 😦 i am feeling unrooted without it

[novel pebble]

maybe the ARK 2 was the friends we made along the way

[mint swan]

Maybe ARK 2 is ark ascended and the story mode is coming soon

[latent steppe]

Don’t worry yall ark 2 is delayed

[ripe harness]

cant release a normal map never mind ark 2 bruv lmao

[mint swan]

ARK II release date: October 23, 2077

[lyric dew]

.

[lyric dew]

They probably just came up with this ARK 2 idea to sell the ARK

They got people excited about the idea of Ark 2, they justified it by saying that since they didn't have money they would need to launch Ark Alight and that was it... Now you've achieved your goal people who were just waiting for you.

They probably never even had the idea to release Ark 2, just to make people buy ASA

[uncut remnant]

Now I’m confident. I’ll be long dead before ark 2 comes out.

[lyric dew]

Lol

[pseudo mantle]

ur grand childs will play gta 6 long before they can play ark 2

[worldly garden]

it's not even released yet.

[distant juniper]

So when are we officially delaying the release of Ark 2? We got 11 days left

[untold ingot]

At this point I think most of us doubt that ark2 is official lol

[distant juniper]

real

[uncut remnant]

Great grandchildren* grand children is too generous of a timetable for them.

[twin badger]

It's official ark 2 before extinction

[remote ember]

Ark 2? You mean Ark ASA!

[tawdry oracle]

Oh wow how original

[arctic kelp]

L

[naive kraken]

there is a few more days left they might still meet their 2024 promise 🤣

[arctic kelp]

Ark 2 isn't the next ark y'all realize that right???

It's just a big story game no new maps or anything

ASA still gonna stay

[naive kraken]

said the same about ase

they cant keep the lights on overnight at WC they will def shut the servers down Lol

[arctic kelp]

No you didn't cause ASE was said to be like it is rn

[arctic kelp]

They said ark 2 was and is gonna be one big story map

That is a fact

[naive kraken]

XD what are you on about

[arctic kelp]

Watch the trailer

[naive kraken]

continuing a convo from someone else?

[arctic kelp]

They have voice acting from Vin Diesel I mean you can't be that stupid

It's been confirmed from wildcard that it's a story based game not like ASA or ase

[naive kraken]

Nah it hasnt

[pallid dome]

It actually has tbf

[naive kraken]

Nah, It Has Not

[pallid dome]

Alr mate you belive what you want 👍

[naive kraken]

I will

[copper iris]

Proof of this?

[arctic kelp]

Look at the trailer or anyone talking about it

Even in interviews they say multiple times it's a story based game

Think of gen 1 just way bigger and more story

[copper iris]

Nah, it’s not

[twilit hemlock]

hope not

[stray elm]

Yes, and no.
It's still going to be an open-world MMO-style survival game like ARK-1 is. But more emphasis on taking the story a bit more seriously.

Still not a story-based game.
That'd be like calling Destiny a story-based game just because it has a campaign.

[arctic kelp]

Yes it is buddy look at the guy above me he explains it perfectly y'all are all gonna be so surprised that this ain't the next massive ark game

[stray elm]

Go away

[copper iris]

The guy above you still says it’s not story based, just because it has a story doesn’t mean it’s story based, what don’t you understand XD

[opal panther]

Yeah my understanding is... Ark 2 should have MORE story, but it's still a sandbox survival game.

That said... with ASA and all the delays, I'm also prepared to play Ark 2 sometime in 2068

[stray elm]

It's going to be like how Genesis-2 was basically, but possibly more human NPC's and actual plotlines in their missions instead of being just minigames.

[maiden jay]

Time to clan up with the grand kids 😂

Honestly I would love to skip genesis and stick with the more primitive idea where all creatures have uses

[arctic kelp]

Yeah but it's not gonna be like ass with multiple maps and servers

[stray elm]

Random thought I had. Is what if they just decide to cancel ARK-2, and continue the plot in ASA, and just make ASA into a platform game where everything ARK related is in it.
Seems like people didn't like the souls-like combat aspects, so if they decide to remove that, they could possibly just make ARK-2 in ASA with ARK-1 gameplay.

[stray elm]

We don't know if it'll have multiple maps or not.
Could act exactly like ARK-1 in that regard, or completely different.

[arctic kelp]

That's from what I got from it at least from what the interviews say it sounds like it's gonna be just one massive map

[stray elm]

Could be, but that'd be kind of hard for game development.
Unless it's going to be mostly filler content like 2015 version of The Island was before more biomes came out. Then they'll have to expand the landscape.
As well, there's an evergreen amount of income you can make from a product, and once ARK-2 reaches that, they'll need to do something else to keep the studio afloat.

People really didn't mind how the expansions worked in ASE, so I see no issues with having that system again.

[whole widget]

Now imagine that when ARK 2 lunches this channel name will change to ARK 3

[subtle anvil]

when is ark 2 gonna release?

[rancid depot]

Never

[subtle anvil]

Lol

They just forget?

[rancid depot]

They’re just bad at their job

[subtle anvil]

🤣

[atomic cave]

Instead of doing Ark 2, they opted for a visual upgrade. Until Ark Ascended is fully rolled out we won't see Ark 2. And at that point Ark VR will be being re-released pushing it back and then Ark Full Dive will come out. So we can expect Ark 2 in... let's see 15 years for first one... about 2069

[arctic kelp]

Your all over the place bro chill non of what you said is confirmed, as of now ASA is most likely gonna stay relavent and ark vr isn't even a thought yet

[atomic cave]

You realize that we don't even have full dive technology right?

[atomic cave]

It was a joke to say they'll just keep pushing it back in pursuit of the short term cash grab and start pulling a skyrim with multiple re-releases.

[untold ingot]

There's no market for it. If there was we would have it

[atomic cave]

What're you talking about? Being able to go 100% into a video game. No controller, able to breath and taste the game. They already have feedback suits for VR games for this reason. There is TOTALLY a market for it, that's part of why sword art online is so popular and has paved the way for so many more animes created since.

[desert mulch]

HAHA yeah no there’d definitely be a market if the tech existed and didn’t cost a shit ton

[blissful perch]

…you mean the concept? That works for an anime but has no bearing on the actual gaming market. The current technology we have isn’t like an anime yet and most people don’t care for VR

[untold ingot]

That's two conditions. It has t b full dive. And has to be cheap. People get upset when an Xbox costs $500. A full dive rig would cost literally tens of thousands just for the processing. There is NO general market for that.

If people wanted full dive they would invest in vr. But after like a decade of having vr, it's still a fringe anomaly than a large market

[blissful perch]

I’d argue in addition to Raq’s note above that part of the problem is near insurmountable. VR gives people serious headaches and nausea/motion sickness when tasked with gaming at the pace of a modern game (ie lots of FOV twitching)

[untold ingot]

Imagine a game being linked to your brain and then having glitches. Talk about problems 😂

[blissful perch]

Game has bad optimization? You get to go to the hospital for brain failure

[untold ingot]

Like, it would technically be possible with modified neuralink tech, but 98% of the human racewould emphatically say no to that unless it was highly proven to not cause issues

[blissful perch]

The point that it’s wildly infeasible for current gaming is the same tho…the tech, cultural readiness, and cost are just not there yet

[desert mulch]

like I said, way too high tech and difficult to do… such things are why the market is small. You’re right about money also affecting it but it is not desire that’s the limiting factor.

[untold ingot]

Expensive to do. That's the factor

[desert mulch]

Just that tech like that would cost an insane amount to make and sell so it’s a narrow audience

yes

[untold ingot]

Which is why there is no market

[desert mulch]

The reason it’s expensive is cause of the difficulty though lmao

[untold ingot]

Hmm, not technically

[desert mulch]

there’s no market cause it doesn’t exist 🤷‍♂️

[wise brook]

I hope they think hard on what kind of clownshow new map releases are on ASA and completely reimagine the server infrastructure, not being able to play when people want to is a huge turnoff for many people who might be interested in the game otherwise

[blissful perch]

I agree Elly - they should close official servers to fix this

[untold ingot]

It's expensive because of the hardware. The actual processing is just software and some advanced ray tracing type stuff. There are literally tens of thousands of people able to do that

[wise brook]

Should close whole studio in that case

[untold ingot]

Well. Going into Asa they were under th assumption it wouldnt get much new audience. They said as much

[desert mulch]

we are conceptually at the point of being able to make a game of that level ? Am I not updated on this

[wise brook]

But they already released many maps so they should have some hard data.. unless they ignore all of it and just yolo, which to be fair appears to be how they do it

[untold ingot]

Um, yeah, if it paid to do so.

Heck, a bunch of Minecraft bots made an Ai powered "dive" rig out of pvc and wheels

[blissful perch]

The savings on running officials, paying OT for staff to be up at odd hours to support officials, and paying for admins would prolly easily make up the difference in a few lost sales - since most players would be able to easily transition to unofficials that would be able to host 1x rates (since officials effectively prevent them from existing at the moment)

It won’t happen, but it would be nice

[desert mulch]

I need to look into all that tech lmao

[wise brook]

You really overestimate how many people would willingly go to unofficials where they would be at mercy of whoever runs the server. Also most people won't buy a game so they can pay for unofficial servers (yes, in multiple because they need a cluster in ASA).

[untold ingot]

Don't hate me for saying it, but dream Minecraft lol. A friend showed me it the other day. It's a bit scuffed, but these are Minecrafters, not professionals

[blissful perch]

You’re acting like being at the mercy of WC and nitrado is a gold standard

[untold ingot]

Shifter is biased against officials. But he makes good points.

[blissful perch]

Can’t lie about that. I do dislike officials

[wise brook]

It's not, but they still need to invest in bug squashing and security fixes. I think they're not spending a huge amount on admins. Anyway it would really make it a niche game

[blissful perch]

As I often say to this point, Minecraft has zero official servers (or at the very least hadn’t for most of its life) and it is the #1 most sold game. I assume in part because small dev teams could focus on the game and not the large effort it takes to run/polish/police officials servers

[wise brook]

I think the comparison is a little off when considering the costs of both games and the expectations people have when seeing Ark that looks really pretty or an indie title that looks like a PS1 game

The costs of the games themselves but also the servers is pretty different afaik

[blissful perch]

People expect what exists 🤷‍♂️. Ark for a long time was plenty capable of making that swap

Again, they won’t remove officials, but there are clear benefits to doing so

[untold ingot]

I hate to say it, but Minecraft does have more scope and creative possibility

[wise brook]

I really don't see the benefits of that, i think it's a complete kill button for a game like Ark

[untold ingot]

Most Minecraft isn't played to beat the boss. It's played to make cool things. Ark is limited in that

[untold ingot]

70% of the pop plays sp or unofficial. It wouldn't kill the game, but it would make troubke

[blissful perch]

I certainly agree there will be some downsides. But imo it’s a net benefit

[wise brook]

Where is that number from, but also I guess they have to because there's few official servers.. Have you considered how many people never bought Ark because official servers are either ass or full for weeks after content release?

[blissful perch]

And how many of those servers are dead like…3-4 months later, except they can’t be deleted without causing mass community outrage?

[untold ingot]

They have apis you can pull from to get the count. That number is from my own data, but they have said that previously

[blissful perch]

The demand for 1x is certainly respectable, but the consistent demand for official server slots in a game like ark is not that reliable. It’s painfully costly to offer too many slots and be stuck with them

[untold ingot]

Pve has been very lively on official in Asa. Pvp less so

[blissful perch]

Oh I didn’t know that. Do you have the split?

[untold ingot]

Like 18k daily on pve, 2k-4k on pvp for official last I checked

[wise brook]

It's a choice. Many people come back just to the newest map and play it for a month, then go away. Them having done deals with Nitrado that are inflexible is only their own fault

[blissful perch]

Dang that’s a big gap

[untold ingot]

The game is designed to be perpetual.

[untold ingot]

That's 2 months old. Could be different. But like I said, it's a public api, anyone can pull from it

[blissful perch]

Well the official servers certainly are. Very hard to take down, and very expensive to keep running as the hardware ages. The types of deals made with folks like nitrado are likely to offset the costs of running this stuff

[wise brook]

I mean plenty of people went to the expire servers full well knowing they'll expire at some point and were happy to play like that

[untold ingot]

Yeah, but they only had those because they were contracted for future maps.

[wise brook]

It comes to design choices and Wildcard has made theirs, and those choices are inflexible and expensive

[untold ingot]

Nitrado doesn't have a large stock of server hardware sitting around waiting for ar servers. They aren't amazon

[wise brook]

Yeah, which is why devs shouldn't have made deals with Nitrado then. It hurt ASE, it hurts ASA and it'll hurt Ark 2 if it ever materializes

[untold ingot]

Of course if ark were to use Amazon it would cost like 10x more

[untold ingot]

Nitrado is one of the cheapest largest game server hosts there is. It makes sense to go with them for something like ark from a business perspective. Even though they absolutely suck

[blissful perch]

Cheap is usually cheap for a reason

[wise brook]

Nitrado is ass but also the inflexibility is what drives away some players, when it costs sales it's maybe not that "cheap" in the end

[untold ingot]

Inflexibility? Ark has some of the most flexible hosting of any game out there

[wise brook]

I'm talking about official servers

[untold ingot]

How do you propose fixing it

[wise brook]

I mean they just really need more servers at launch, can be expire-type servers so they can reclaim those slots for later when new content comes out. People want to play when new stuff is out and can't

[blissful perch]

People are not gonna vibe with expiry servers

[untold ingot]

Like they have been doing?

[blissful perch]

If ark was a true MMO, much of this would be moot. It’s absolutely reasonable to have tons of space on launch and scale back when player progress isn’t stored in structures on a server’s map…but that’s not how Ark works

[blissful perch]

This is also true

[wise brook]

For Ark 2 I think they could bring out the concept of tribes out of individual servers, implement proper queues and prioritize so people who want to play together can more easily play together. That's another big thing that really hinders this game on content launches.

[blissful perch]

That’s the benefit of unofficial networks

A Hypixel but ark would be the ideal solution imo

[untold ingot]

Queues are something they explored and rejected

[untold ingot]

Elite ark

Mts kinda had a thing going

[wise brook]

You mean they did the autoclicker thingy people mistake for queue system because they probably didn't know how to make a proper one? 😂

[untold ingot]

No. They intentionally didnt make a queue. Queues are easy

[wise brook]

I'll take that with a grain of salt considering some of the other technical oddities in ASE and ASA

[untold ingot]

The issue with queues is that someone like me (but with bad intentions) can block up a queue and effectively own a server without letting anyone else join.

[wise brook]

Yet queues have been successfully and securely implemented in many games and other software

[untold ingot]

I can write the code for a custom queue in 15 seconds flat. And so can everyone else who has ever done coding. Its not a technical issue

[untold ingot]

Which?

[wise brook]

Name almost any MMO for example

And obviously just putting up some naively simplistic queue isn't a solution i'm suggesting

[blissful perch]

Most MMOs don’t provide incentive or benefit to players for locking up a queue (at least, way less than ark does)

[pure mortar]

When will the Xbox ext update be out any time said yet?

[jade nimbus]

Not the channel for it.

[pure mortar]

Which channel

[untold ingot]

Any queue has the issue that a 200 man tribe gets into the queue, and clogs it so people can't join. Free offline raids 100% of the time. That's why they didn't do it

[jade nimbus]

#general

[wise brook]

So tell me if you've went to the trouble of creating 70 steam accounts or something to block up a queue, how does it differ from having those accounts with the game there spam cliking the join button?

[untold ingot]

Because there is no priority. It's luck mostly.

[wise brook]

Well yeah for pvp that is a problem but most people play pve

[untold ingot]

A joining system has to cover both

[wise brook]

Remove pvp

[blissful perch]

Wait. Removing officials is a crazy idea to you but removing PvP isn’t

[untold ingot]

Lol, that's like saying remove official entirely

[wise brook]

Yes, my time to troll 😇

[blissful perch]

Jarvis, please look up the rate of PvE official players compared to unofficial

[untold ingot]

Pvp is the vocal community, that despite what you think, they are the ones driving fixes, updates, content etc.

[untold ingot]

For Asa it's actually about 50 50

Asa unofficial is really not that popular

[blissful perch]

Woof

[wise brook]

I doubt they drive content unless you consider finding all kinds of exploits and making devs fix them content

[untold ingot]

Yup.

Probably 70 to 80% of bug fixes is pvp related

[wise brook]

See, removing pvp would save development time and money 😏

[untold ingot]

No it wouldn't

[blissful perch]

Objectively it would just shrink the scope of the game for little reason

[untold ingot]

It would have the effect of not having a vocal group pushing for fixes

[blissful perch]

It’s not vastly more expensive to add content meant for PvP. It’s objectively expensive to run servers round the clock and maintain them

[untold ingot]

It's not at all expensive to have pvp apart from pve. As long as they dont separate them too mucb

[blissful perch]

As long as PvP vs PvE is mostly value changes and toggles for sure

I do think there’s some issues once we start “branching” the actual content, which I hope doesn’t carry to ark 2

[untold ingot]

Branching content doubles the work. Andis totally notworth it

[wise brook]

I don't know what you mean by branching content, I mean pve and pvp are different modes so there is inevitably going to be work stemming from that

[blissful perch]

Not really. Take minecraft again. Or even most MMOs. The meta is different but the content is nearly identical. Devs just flip a switch that says “PvP on”

[wise brook]

And it's different in ASA how? I don't pvp, no clue what branching content means in this context

[blissful perch]

Branching content would be like adding a turret that’s only available in PvP - or having a tame that does one thing in PvP and a totally different thing in PvE

In the most extreme case you’d basically have ark PvE and ark PvP have its own set of tames, structures, etc

^another reason to not bother with official. Lotta angry people constantly coming around because it doesn’t work flawlessly that wouldn’t be so mad if officials weren’t a thing

[wise brook]

Yeah they'd never buy the game and that'd make the game get much less content if any

[blissful perch]

You seem to believe nobody would buy the game if people played unofficial versus official

Given the dubious state of officials, I doubt anyone would care if unofficials had the same 1x rates and had more slots

[wise brook]

I didn't say nobody, but those people who want to play on official servers certainly wouldn't

I think you ignore things like ability to transfer and trade between servers

[blissful perch]

Unofficials can also do that just fine

[wise brook]

Oh so all unofficials are in same cluster?

[blissful perch]

And given you can’t connect to officials cause of a lack of slots…it’s not like all officials being in the same cluster helps

[long lance]

No he's angry because the whole Microsoft side of certification has been negatively effected heavily and this isn't the first time this has happened yet I haven't seen it happen with other games so I doubt Xbox is to blame

[blissful perch]

Have other devs readily communicated live updates about cert process? I certainly haven’t seen it

[wise brook]

They probably understand it can take non-zero time

[untold ingot]

That's a major security issue

[wise brook]

I mean it would be nonsense, all breeders would be on some 100x server 🤣

[fair hollow]

??? Dellayied or still end of 2024???

[untold ingot]

There are major unofficials, but the issue with them is funding. It costs a lot to run servers. And nothing to play on them

[long lance]

No usually because they push for certification ahead of time in preparation but wildcard has never managed to actually do that and not cause delays for either one console or another

[untold ingot]

Officially there is nothing.

[fair hollow]

F

[wise brook]

All the unofficials I tried either had too big rates, no cluster, bad/biased admins, too frequent wipes or all of those and then some

If they said Ark 2 will not get official servers I'd instantly say I won't get the game

[untold ingot]

There are tight knit pve communities that the only way to get into them is a fairly extensive vetting process lol. Obviously random unofficials will be random.

There are tens of thousands of unofficials. And maybe a couple dozen good ones

[calm scaffold]

same

i dont trust wildcard but i dont trust a random player controlling my server even more

plus official pvp just hits different

[untold ingot]

Like a kick in the nards 🤣

[wise brook]

I tried pvp in ASE but didn't have a group but now with all the skins, pay to win creatures and dlc stuff it's to me inherently unfair and pvp needs to be fair or i stay away from it

For unfairness I have real world already

[calm scaffold]

me and my friends main thing is the combat

we just hope it gets done right and theres real skill expression

[untold ingot]

Pvp will never be fair. It's inherently unfair because some people don't have a real world

[blissful perch]

That’s what I’m eager to see ark 2 do. Cause ark 1 combat is mechanically dubious at best

[wise brook]

To me a basic level of fairness is all players bought the game and play by same rules, not that someone spent some more for benefits

[calm scaffold]

yeah ark 1s combat is awful lol

[untold ingot]

Eh. Its not that major

[wise brook]

Maybe not but to me the idea of it is enough to keep me away

[untold ingot]

You can always tribe with someone who has the dlc, and it makes 0 difference.

Ase was just as ptw

[wise brook]

Yeah but that's maybe the practical side of it, I'd still be incredibly disturbed by the idea of paying for benefits in pvp

[untold ingot]

Literally any game that survives through game updates becomes ptw

[wise brook]

In a way yeah

[blissful perch]

Kinda depends on the system of pay. Old school MMOs pay for membership was the closest to fair in that regard. Obviously current cosmetic oriented pay models like league work

[wise brook]

But you could play on free maps in ASE and get all the expansion dinos

[untold ingot]

So whats the solution. They are a business, they can't run without income. Dlc is income

[calm scaffold]

DLC doesnt have to mean pyromane

[untold ingot]

Yeah, but when the dlc is the dino?

[wise brook]

I mean this is one solution, but it'll still mean I won't play pvp because by principle it disturbs me

[blissful perch]

But any dlc/content based financial model is gonna be p2w for anyone who isn’t getting the content. Agree with Raq there

[untold ingot]

Don't get me wrong, I despise the Pyro

[blissful perch]

Though it’s also not true p2w…since you can’t pay Wc for progress/weapons/mats/base spots/etc

[wise brook]

What's wrong with pay to win creatures where the design team came up with ideas.. then didn't discard any of them 🤣

[untold ingot]

What disturbs me about pvp is the incredible time sink it is. (and I have 8k hours of pvp)

[calm scaffold]

they cant discard ideas bro thats mean positive vibes only!!!

[untold ingot]

Lol. What

[wise brook]

Yeah but to me the basic level of fairness is just a hard requirement, I just won't play pvp in any game where I feel it's unfair p2w

And it's not the practical effects it's the principle

[untold ingot]

I can't think of a single major game today with pvp that doesn't have ptw elements

[untold ingot]

Yeah, I know. And I'm with you on that.

[wise brook]

I don't play a lot of pvp but anything where it's just cosmetics is essentially good unless the cosmetics somehow affect the gameplay directly

[blissful perch]

I’d argue ark’s monetization model is horrendous in Asa but isn’t even real p2w for the reasons I described. (Praying Ark 2 doesn’t do the pyromane thing cause that’s the worst thing I’ve ever seen)

[untold ingot]

Pyromane was horrific. A reskin of the shadowmane and twice as bad. Royally bad

[blissful perch]

Yea that was an industrial grade F tier decision

[untold ingot]

Hmm, wait till you hear about the invisible structure skins lol

[wise brook]

What you don't like a mount that is also a shoulder pet that is also a grill that is also a preserving bin making jerky without any requirements that also shields you from heat but also from cold

[untold ingot]

I don't like anything about it

Like literally nothing

[wise brook]

I hate it too 🤣

But in pve i can stomach that kind of monetization

[untold ingot]

Fantastic tames imo was a total joke

[untold ingot]

I don't draw that line. If it's bad in pvp it's bad in pve

[blissful perch]

Balance (ie the viability of creatures against each other) is so important to healthy PvE and so often is ignored because too many PvE players love being OP

[wise brook]

I just think it's silly to imagine a design meeting where they threw out ideas and then instead of picking a few good ones they just ended up making a paid creature with all of them

In pve I think the game is good in a way there's many creatures you can clear content with, that's one of Ark's strengths. I don't like pyromane, much prefer something less silly

[near jewel]

This game ain't ever coming out

[slender bolt]

do we have any update on ark 2? if i remember correctly it was late 2024
should i just buy ark ascended for 26 euro

[rancid depot]

It’s never coming out

[blissful perch]

The question was “what would people pay $5 for” not “what would be a healthy addition to the game’s creature roster”

Ark 2 has better not do this

[blissful perch]

Honest take? Stick to ASE until ark 2 hits in late 2025-2026 when it likely comes out. Asa is not worth imo

[slender bolt]

so long?

[white hill]

Also because this is the ark 2 chat XD

[fallow niche]

@wise brook This channel is only for Ark 2. Please use the other channels for ASA, such as #general, #ark-survival-ascended, #pve-discussion, or #pvp-discussion.

[wise brook]

But how can we talk of Ark 2 without being able to talk of ASA that came instead of it, that's assumedly to propel the tech for the next game?

And also the game mechanics that need to be fixed to make Ark 2 a success

[true viper]

I think that people feel burned that ASA came in and became the top priority, seemingly at the last minute. I'm sure there are legitimate reasons for why that was the case. I think now that Extinction is out, marking the remaining story DLCs to only 3 remaining, that might open up room for more Ark 2 news. At the very least WC still has to address the game by the end of this year, if not the early days of 2025. In some ways, right now anyway, no news is still good news. It would be easier to just announce the cancellation than it would be to postpone addressing it.

[fallow niche]

You can use the channel for content that is actively leading to Ark 2, or you can just simply use other channels to chat.

[wise brook]

Maybe ASA is Ark 2 😏

On a more serious note I assume they'll use some of the same tech and while I may sound critical I want Ark 2 to be a good game that I can play. My fear is it'll be misguided into something like Atlas

[tribal chasm]

The dune buggy is totally a test for the upcoming Ark 2 spear stuff, I assume

with the 10,000 combinations etc

[calm scaffold]

i was literally JUST about to say that lmao

the vehicles and the way weapon customization works is pretty similar

for ark 2 obv

[wooden junco]

I won’t buy it even if it does come out

[calm scaffold]

ok!

[wise brook]

I just hope they fix the player controller, the animated physical dino tails that aren't physical enough not to push through walls and stuff. There's a lot of technical improvements much welcomed in ASA but there's some very fundamental that needs fixing for Ark 2, especially if it's as they said one time "souls-like combat"

[true viper]

ASA, gameplay wise isn't necessarily the best way to judge what might be in Ark II or not tbh. Most the game, dev kit wise especially is just what was in ASE. There is new stuff like the babies, which could be a stepping stone to herding behaviours, Armadoggo, which I personally think has Ark 2 implications, same with the battle rigs to some extent, mostly in regards to component based crafting.

Structures as well. It looks like what's been changed in ASA is directly mirrored in Ark II, based off that one village concept art we got a while ago.

[wise brook]

It's definitely bridging it to the next game and that makes sense, that's how most development works. If they change the mechanics a lot I hope their tech can keep up cause they certainly didn't fix some things for ASA that might be glaringly bad for a different kind of play style but not necessarily so bad for the current

[true viper]

The current game does drastically need a combat flow overhaul, but I highly doubt that will happen in ASA. Stuff like that is most likely going to be play tested in the studio, and in VERY closed environments.

[wise brook]

Yeah, I hope so. Like i said my fear is that it'll end up like Atlas which had cool ideas but horrible execution (with ASE tech). Like in ASA ai controllers work nicely and physically push each other away if they end up close to each other but with player controller, you just get physically stuck meshed into things and can't move. If Ark 2 is going to have "souls-like combat" or something then that'll be even more problematic than now, though it definitely shouldn't be a thing now either.

[calm scaffold]

They have said they were using ASA as a way to learn how to make ark 2 in UE5 easier, so assumedly at the very least making the battle rigs system gave them experience on how to make things at least related to "weapons/mechanics with interswappable parts"

[wise brook]

Yeah but meshing into things and being unable to move is something that's part of both iterations of previous Ark, really it shouldn't be. Any good gameplay combat system has player able to push opponents physically but Ark lacks that.

So you just end up inside the mesh

[true viper]

Even then ASA is a face lifted version of the switch port, put into UE5. Most things are relatively the same say for maps which got a major techincal overhaul with how they're done. Dinos and other actor class types got some QoL features like controls rigs and death capture (what's responsible for the direction a dino falls to when they die).

There's only so much WC can do with ASA to test features they'd like to work with in the future and not have ASA deviate so dramatically from the prior game.

[wise brook]

Yeah there's definitely some good stuff in ASA but it's still lacking some fundamentals. We don't really know a lot of Ark 2 but if they take the combat into more focus they need to have the tech and mechanics to back it up-

[true viper]

I have to imagine that anything else other than the current combat system is infintely better. The current system is watered down to the base line mechanics of a combat system.

[spare hollow]

Saddles with interchangable parts instead of like "this dinosaur has this saddle and this one has this saddle" would be awesome. i get how like current ark could be unbalanced with that, but if weight systems were more realistic and the game was less built off of straight upgrades and instead like sidegrades or something it could be really cool me thinks

[spare hollow]

Got that w+m1 swag

[wise brook]

I mean my main beef isn't that it's basic, but that there's basic things wrong with it. I get it if i'm swarmed by 20 megalodons in water that I get pinned, but it only takes one and it swims into my mesh and then my mount can no longer move.. The thing with ASE and ASA is that it's not as big of a deal with how the gameplay functions, it's still an issue but something people can live with. Make combat more focus and it'll ruin the game if it stays like that.

[true viper]

There was the Rex leak in 2022, that showed off the different saddles a rex could have. It makes me think that the saddles if not every piece of 'equipment' will fall under the component based crafting category. Which I think is a good thing quite frankly.

[wise brook]

It's good if there's more focus on individual pieces, the current mechanics are very taxing on servers with people requiring hundreds of creatures to do bosses, breed and stuff

[true viper]

This is what's got me thinking that the battle rigs are the launching pad for that.

[wise brook]

What they need to fix is some fundamental stuff with physics though, that's what the multiplayer stumbles on because animations, physics and collision detection don't sync and play together at all

And there's still extremely basic stuff like the game not loading structures first so your dinos will fall half through the floors because they get loaded in first. It's really hard to show ASA to friends who might be interested because there's always some bs going on

[true viper]

Right, but that's a ASA exclusive problem. I don't that in particular has any direct implications towards Ark II

[spare hollow]

I remember an old game, idk the name of it it was like the forest i think, and you could attach like feathers to weapons to make them faster or teeth to make them do more damage. Obviously in its absolute basic form like that its just going to be damage spam but i think that kind of concept could be nice for tools in ark, it always bugged me how the game shows all the different legions and tribes and like the little sketches of survivors with custom swords and armor, you go into the game and somehow everyone just happened to craft the exact same serrated edge machete, exact same round double sided pickaxe, exact same rex saddle, exact same stone wall, etc. And to be able to make blueprints of your weapons like the food notes would be so cool, to have like tribes with their own style of sword or armor or saddles. Giving reason to have someone who knows how to work well with that stuff in your tribe instead of everyone just happens to know exactly how to make literally everything ever, i mean i get from a game perspective it makes sense for a crafting system to be like that but for such a multiplayer dependant game i wish it had more roles instead of everyone being a jack of all trades

[wise brook]

I mean it's an easy problem, solution shouldn't be very difficult either. So if they can't or won't fix it in ASA why would I assume they will in Ark 2?

[true viper]

Because Ark II won't be built off the ASA engine

It will still be UE5, but that not that particular instillation.

[wise brook]

My assumption is that they will use ASA as base, why would they have done ASA in the first place? Like do you have a source for this?

[spare hollow]

Always hated how bosses are always just rex spam, i want to go in with like a crew of maybe 4-5 dinos not 30 rexes all named after their stats a yuti and a pig, Every. Single. Time

[wise brook]

To me it's actually strengths of ASE/ASA that you can do bosses with many things, people just use the rexes because it's easy

[true viper]

ASA was partially rushed on the part of Snail/Nitrado to the best of my knowledge. I can't give you an exact source for confidentiality reasons. Respectfully, please don't ask me that in the future. What I will say though is, that in the dev kit, a good 75 percent of things are identical to how they were in the ASE dev kit.

[wise brook]

I mean that makes sense because essentially it's just a port of ASE from U4 to U5

But why wouldn't they use the same tech as base for Ark 2, practically every game development studio builds on previous work?

[spare hollow]

Yeah i mean i just like choice in stuff like that, if im going in singleplayer i dont want to have to try managing so many creatures, especially with the horrendous hitboxes where they all get stuck on eachother. Ontop of that it ends up forcing me to ride the yuti if i go in with an army because the yuti otherwise is just going to get itself killed somehow

[wise brook]

Yeah but with some mutating you can do the bosses even with lower tier creatures, we did monkey a few days ago with 2 rexes, yuty and 10 aberrant megalos

[spare hollow]

That singleplayer mutation waiting swag

[true viper]

Right, and they can take those things that work in the ASA kit, and transplant them over into a cleaner version of Unreal. There's too much wrong about the ASA kit, to warrant it being viable for another game given the litany of issues ASA has faced with performance, and returning bugs from the old game.

[wise brook]

Yeah but even if they take a fresh start, if they don't know how to fix problems they'll just reimplement them

[true viper]

Every game will have it's issues, and if they work from a cleaner slate, I have to imagine it would be easier to fix those bugs once they're encountered.

[wise brook]

But like the meshing issue with player controller in Unreal 4/5, it's something that 99% of games do right. It's not a new thing, it's not something that should need a new game to fix.

So if they don't fix it in ASE/ASA I can't imagine they will in Ark 2

[true viper]

At that point, I have to imagine it's outside of WC's direct control. If it's an issue that a lot of different games are facing, it shouldn't be WCs responsibility to fix it. Not that it's acceptable, just not a problem of their own making.

[spare hollow]

If theyre starting fresh id imagine theyd just write it differently. Its not very easy to rewrite the hitbox system with is currently probably a very deep piece of code made for the game back in 2015, considering how buggy the game can be and how surgical it can be to rewrite early code from a game this old its probably just easier to leave it to the newer versions to be better

[true viper]

I feel like you're splitting hairs on that point. Someone with a greater sense of game development than I could probably speak more about that issue particularly. I'm solely talking about what WC themselves can do with their own unique ideas and inclusions. Not issues that games face at large.

[fallow niche]

Make sure to keep this on Ark 2, not annoyances at Ascended, Evolved, or Wildcard themselves.

[true viper]

If we're lucky enough, we might hear something about Ark II in tonights crunch. It may get overshadowed by the recent announcement, but there's still that chance.

[spare hollow]

Itll probably be announced around genesis, best case imo is ark 2 waits until after asa is done

[true viper]

I would like to think that were at the beginning of that being case.

[spare hollow]

Oh cmon the moon is in ark and probably ark 2 that shouldve stayed

[true viper]

It's a different moon

[spare hollow]

:(

Ark 2 needs dynamic animation with skeleton based hitboxes (like totally accurate battle simulator but without the intentional ragdoll instability)

[calm scaffold]

ASA was to make a game that was similar to ASE as Ark 2 is gonna be way different and basically for a different playerbase, It was 'training' basically to learn how UE5 worked, and ASA also uses the OG codebase from ASE which is why all the same problems from ASE are in ASA (they did this as to save time as time = money)

[spare hollow]

Like instead of bird fighting being two birds circling eachother they deal more damage at faster speeds and actually latch onto eachother and fall while fighting which forces them to play chicken with whos gonna let go first so they dont both die on impact with the ground

[calm scaffold]

i believe this will be a thing

[spare hollow]

Or like instead of a giga being stopped by something it could trip over it pushes anything lighter than it out of the way

[calm scaffold]

they were talkin about that being a big thing with optimization on the extra life stream

[true viper]

I feel like that would get in the way animations to a certain extent. Hit-reaction isn't a brand new concept, Halo Infinite does it very well in PvE imo. If anything there would probably have to be different notifies on the skeleton that detect a damage type and if activated plays an animation specifically for that region and strength level of damage. Just and idea.

[spare hollow]

Yeah it would def have to be refined. i remember when i was little i played some sort of sandbox game, kind if like scrap mechanic but for mobile, and as buggy as it could be you could get some pretty cool looking scenes from the physics-and-joints based builds just dynamically fighting with whatever ai was programmed into them. Definitely better than the same 3 animations on loop while two fancy hitboxes walk into eachother and gradually turn more red though i think

Game was blocksworld just remembered it now

[slate oak]

Why would anyone buy ark2 when they can’t get ark1 to work right… and it’s been how many years?? Lmao

[tough quail]

Soooooooooooooon

[true viper]

Entirely depends on what your definition of 'work right' is, and with that being said, it's unfortunate that ASA has become what it has, but it's really down to it being such a sudden announcement and release.

It's also contingent on whether or not Wildcard will be using the same iteration of their engine, which I have to assume they won't be.

[untold ingot]

No it isn't. Literally every game has mesh issues

[shy atlas]

Hehe haha

[lean carbon]

I mean who'se to say they won't just roll it into ASA? Its been so long and with so much already poured into ASA at this point they may just be better off making ARK 2 an addition to ASA

And now that we know they're ||making a new story map with Lost Colony|| they could just do the same with ARK 2

[untold ingot]

Yeaj, but that would mean getting rid of all the concepts making ark2 a unique idea.

[true viper]

I don't see that lasting long term

[golden isle]

At this point donate the funding to charity and give up on ark 2

[true viper]

There would be considerable push back if Ark II were scaled back to just being an ASA dlc.

If anything, I think Lost Colony will be a semi-prequel to Ark II in some respect via the Genesis ship.

[whole root]

when does ark 2 come out

[dense pendant]

where it says about lost colony

[spare hollow]

Ark ascended and evolved are a game regardless of the maps, every dlc is just a different landscape for that. Ark 2 is likely going to be fresh new files for pretty much everything in the game (mayble some reused tree models or stuff). Sticking ark 2 in asa would be like sticking the body of a modern ferrari over the frame and engine of a buggy from the 1900s (which for the record is ALREADY what asa is)

[untold ingot]

Asa is the engine of a Ferrari in a model t, and the paint job of a buggatti

[spare hollow]

And its out of fuel

[desert mulch]

bro looked in a chat full of resources and asked this. Date unknown, very likely to be pushed back as it was originally meant to be end of 2024 but hasn't had an announcement.

[whole root]

so is it smart to get ascended or wait

[desert mulch]

thatttttt I honestly cant answer. I do not have ascended as my specs r doodoo

[remote pilot]

Ark 2 is dead.

[desert mulch]

I would say yeah ASA is a decent investment if you play often... ark 2 likely wont be out for a while

[whole root]

ok thanks i miss playing ark and yes it was mobile but i miss it

[remote pilot]

If you want to play ark. Simple ram upgrade really might fix your problem. I was running 16gb. It was maxed out at launch of servers and if it played it was potatoe. Upgraded to 32gb ram and I still have a 2060 with ryzen 3500 or 3600

Ark has to have 32gb min.

[whole root]

pretty sure thats what i have

[remote pilot]

That fixed a lot of my frames issues especially with the new gen games coming out cod and all that stuff.

[clear badger]

Yo

[flint quest]

Yo

[digital pendant]

man I feel like they are going to have to say something about ark 2 soon, year is almost over its been quite obivious that its not releasing

[vivid falcon]

ARK two is fake

[desert mulch]

I've got 16gb and a 1660 and its not practical to upgrade due to life issues. I will prob upgrade just in time for ark 2 though 😂 (not soon)

[true viper]

Considering how close it is to Christmas and New Years, we probably won't hear any new official news regarding the game until January. Which at this point I can't say I would blame them, they like everyone else should be entitled to enjoy the holidays.

[earnest anchor]

Ppl really asking for ark 2 when they can't even fix ark lol clowns everyone

[hollow knoll]

im ok if they delay ark 2 longer than 3 months because for steam they hold companies to certain standards so most likely will be fined xD

[limpid steppe]

im not even gonna be able to run ark 2 lmao

[quiet berry]

Not sure ark 2 isn't out yet lmao

[steel topaz]

Will it come out today or another day?

[shell musk]

When this ment to come out

[whole gale]

When gta 6 drops

[steel topaz]

😉

[drowsy maple]

I doubt we'll see it before '28

[serene jetty]

A

[cerulean meadow]

i think we re playing ark 2 lol

i dont think its ever coming

[snow kelp]

Ark 2 is a myth 😭

[worldly garden]

There was Ark 2 music in the teaser clip at the end of Extinction.

[velvet patio]

So ASA is not ark 2?

[primal yew]

No idea what you are on about, the game has not been on sale, steam doesn't care, it's only breaking promises upon exchange of money, specifically battlepass (and they have close to zero expectations, as long as it's legal they tend to not care)

[fallow niche]

No. See pinned messages.

[whole gale]

Nah it was a in between because ark 2 got delayed, I’ve herd talk that ark 2 finna be single/dedicated servers only which I hope is just speculation cause I’m here for the Dino’s, breeding, and playing with freinds. No multiplayer=no me

[fallow niche]

It's not singleplayer. People need to stop making that assumption or listening to clickbait.

[tame geode]

I love when peeps come to this channel with these new crazy ideas about Ark 2 when we haven't heard any new info about it in literal years.

"I heard the games gonna be like blah blah blah..." is so funny to me.

[teal echo]

is ark 2 going to be released this month???

[tame geode]

Yep...

[teal echo]

yo . how much it will cost ? is there any speculation with day ? will they again give another date or smth?

maybe on christmass..

as a gift

[tame geode]

Oh, we have no clue about any of that.

all InFo Is In ThE pInNeD mEsSaGeS!1!1

[midnight maple]

Cap they’ll release it for only pc and that’ll prob be mid of next year that’s a joke thinking they’ll release a total new game with new content and gameplay in the next month

[teal echo]

i dont really care if they releasee it on console too

[midnight maple]

They’ll release it after gta 6

[teal echo]

wha

they said it will be released on end of this year

how do you know

[tame geode]

Better than releasing it after half life 3

[midnight maple]

I’d put my life savings on them not releasing it this month

They failed to release a map that they pushed back the time 3 different times

[teal echo]

o they have problems with ark 2?

[tame geode]

They have problems with everything.

[teal echo]

lol

[midnight maple]

Nah I’m saying wildcard in general they have no shot to release the game within this month maybe next year MAYBE

[tame geode]

And that's coming from a former wildcard fanboy.

[midnight maple]

Maybe they’ll say they’ll drop it 31st and than delay it for a small 6 months

[whole gale]

Betttttttt

[teal echo]

i was thinking about buying ark ascended but then I remembered that ark 2 is coming out soon

but im dissappointed now

[fallow niche]

We don't have a date for it and haven't had news in quite a while, so I wouldn't count on it coming iut "soon", personally.

[tame geode]

Pou, the last update we got said it would release at the end of 2024, but there's clearly no way in heck that's happening. Instead of saying anything about it though, WC is just hoping we'll forget about it while they distract us with Extinction and Christmas event in ASA.

[teal echo]

should i buy asa then or wait for ark 2

[fallow niche]

This channel is only for Ark 2. Use the other channels for ASA, such as #general, #ark-survival-ascended, #pve-discussion, or #pvp-discussion.

[whole gale]

Ah bet

[tame geode]

You'll be waiting for Ark 2 for a while I reckon considering they just dropped more info about the ASA dlc.

[midnight maple]

Ark 2 will pry realistically not trying to hate come out in late June

[teal echo]

what will be the difference from ASA

what new

[tame geode]

We don't know...

[midnight maple]

Graphics and the combat will be elden ring like i think

[teal echo]

do dinos in asa can smell you ?

[tame geode]

Anyone that says otherwise has no clue either. They've been flip flopping on their ideologies like crazy recently, and it's been so long since we've gotten news, and the info we have is so vague as is that there is no way to know.

[teal echo]

"No more ubiquitous radar - animals now track and hunt by sight, sound and smell! Hide from predators with visual camouflage and environmental obstacles, and learn to mask your scent! Dynamic pathfinding allows creatures to intelligently maneuver around player-built obstacles and structures."

[tame geode]

All there is, is the vague info on the steam page.

[teal echo]

oh

[tame geode]

Which is all subject to change given time restrictions and narrowing of project scope.

Like with how ASA went from a free upgrade to paid standalone game with new dlc leaving ASE to die. || Ark 2 ||

[tame geode]

I will say, hopefully the story doesn't revolve around Meeka disobeying Santiago, running away to study tek stuff to resurrect Diana, getting in trouble, and us having to go save her... that'd be a super boring story mechanism... I doubt they'd take her too far down the obsession rabbit hole and make her a main antagonist, but that would almost be more interesting.

If they're gonna spoon feed us a story then at least make it some homemade high quality puree and not Gerber.

[tawdry basin]

When ark 2?

[whole gale]

Yes

[tame geode]

Meeka should get on to her dad for not spending the 5 bucks on the dreadmare dlc and sucking Diana into the void with it to protect her. Woulda solved her problem.

[strange oak]

Ark 2 coming out 2099 yall frfr

[safe saddle]

Ark 2 or gta 6 first?

Probably neither

[strange oak]

I think the earth perishing

[safe saddle]

lol

[mint swan]

I think its gonna be delayed

[calm scaffold]

its going to be delayed but why they havent said anything yet is theyre either preparing some sort of small sneak peek to go with the delay / information of some kind

or sheer incompetency

theres no other reason why they would wait until the very last community crunch to delay instead of getting it out of the way and enjoying their break

[sleek scaffold]

TEAM EXTINCTION

[true viper]

So I just watched the Extinction cutscene and the Bobs Tall Tales cutscene. I think we've gotten some new details about the story of Ark II. Meeka talks about brining her mother (Diana) back, and presumably she and Bob are on Arat when he's telling her these stories. My working idea is that in the story mode and or quests in the open world, Meekas main storyline will involve sending the player on recovery missions, possibly to the ruins of the Genesis colony ship to retrieve technology to bring Diana back.

[safe saddle]

That was actually a teaser for a new map on Asa I believe

[true viper]

I'm talking about the Bobs Tall Tales cutscene

Right from the beginning it always felt odd that Meeka was present in BTT aside from 'heres our new character' I always had the impression that it would eventually lead up to an Ark II reveal of some kind, because why else would she be included? My obvious bias aside, logically I can't think of a reason why she would be involved at all outside of Ark II.

We know she can't be an active presence in the story of the upcoming Arat Prime DLC, she's grown up on Arat, so my working theory is that in Bobs True Tales, he'll be recounting his own adventures post extinction leading up into Ark II.

[safe saddle]

Oh I meant the think with arat being for Asa mb

[true viper]

The names are confusing. Arat Prime is where the Genesis colony ship launched from, Arat is the planet Ark II is taking place on

[safe saddle]

Yep

[true viper]

Either way, I think we're seeing the start of a greater empahsis being put on Ark II, at least narratively.

If anything this BTT cutscene was a primer

I'm really trying to put my bias aside, and I can't think of a good argument to rebut myself

[distant nova]

ARK 2 was canceled... I'm absolutely sure.

[strange smelt]

isnt ark 2 just ASA?

[distant nova]

ark 2 it was a new game ...

but its dont came .. no more

no december .. it will be delayed again ..

[fallow niche]

No, Ark 2 is the sequel. https://store.steampowered.com/app/2050420/ARK_2/

Steam

ARK 2

Suddenly awakened on a strange primal world filled with dinosaurs and humans struggling for dominance; you must piece together the history of how you arrived there, team-up with legendary heroes, and confront powerful dark forces seeking to control the fate of all life. Saddle up, and join the definitive next-generation survival experience with ...

Release Date

To be announced

▶ Play video

[vital field]

i though ark 2 was substituted by ASA

[calm scaffold]

ASA is for practice in UE5 for ark 2 so technically the other way round lol

[chrome zephyr]

people who actually plays ark knows ark 2 won't be out until ASA gets all the old maps relaunched which is like at least a year from now but if they say ark 2 is cancelled it would make vin diesel look like an idiot

[vast glade]

Whens ark 2 coming out

[vital field]

oh lol

[vital field]

nobody knows

[chrome zephyr]

not even the devs know themselves

[vast glade]

On google it says late 2024swear this is never coming out

Ark rn theres nothing to do anymore

[eternal wigeon]

Wildcard release smth on time? Add like 2 year delay

[true viper]

Then why introduce character motivations for Meeka in BTT? Why else would she be included in BTT at all? Aside from Santiago, she's the only other named character we know of.

[true viper]

Probably some point after Genesis relaunches presumably. Given that WC hasn't directly comfirmed the delay yet, I think that's the most likely time window until then.

For all of WC's problems with delays, they haven't just introduced or tease something, and then not release a tangible product of said thing.

[distant nova]

I will remind you... Ark 2 was first announced in 2018... the first trailer in 2020, the first release date in 2022...

In a few days, we will be in 2025... 7 years since the first announcement, 5 years since the first trailer and... 3 years of delays.

[true viper]

I never said things were going smoothly. No reasonable person would argue otherwise. What I'm saying is at the very least, this new motivation of Meekas is signaling that the game hasn't been relegated to and afterthought or canceled entirely.

[distant nova]

its not canceled yet .. but its not coming to december i'm sure xD

[true viper]

Definitely not December

Generally speaking, for all the faults of WC when it comes to delays and dates and projected releases, they've been true to their word in most regards. What we have going on with Ark II is a pretty novel circumstance for them as a studio.

I'm taking this a win, in spite of the certainty of a delay

[calm scaffold]

besides the fact ark 2 is jeremys "real vision" for what ark should be truly be theres 0 chance its being canned ever

plus the fact if they DID can it then the studio will just die out from lack of revenue

for a release date me and my friends all agree its likely between late 2025 and summer 2026

pure speculation of course

[distant nova]

2027 I think

[calm scaffold]

thats way too far

[true viper]

Barring that Snail doesn't dissolve as a company (don't want to get into that convo), and WC gets acquired by Microsoft. I wouldn't put that off the table, at least the thought of it.

[calm scaffold]

true point

[buoyant pewter]

They are so far behind on ASA, they can’t even announce a delay for Ark 2

Do other devs do this with their games? Wouldn’t people get canned for the piss poor development process of their games/DLCs?

[true viper]

Snail and aspects of management have a role to play in that I imagine. To be quite honest, I don't think Snail gives WC enough to work with. They syphon more than they provide it seems.

Then again, I'm not very business minded, so I could be wrong about that entirely.

[chrome zephyr]

let's be real we just need someone just buy out studio wildcard again cuz i think we have enough of the snail games drama

[buoyant pewter]

I meant management too. I mean why bother spending time/money on a game you can’t release. Sell off WC to someone else and recoup money you put in into it

[true viper]

Snail won't sell off WC though. They're partially reliant on them to a certain extent. Regardless this has moved beyond Ark 2 as a game or story

Either way I think a delay is inevitable, but everything about the narrative of Bobs Tall Tales, going into True Tales is pointing in the direction of Ark II

Lost Colony should help in that respect

[uncut pivot]

They're going for the Duke Nukem delay record

[deep hearth]

GTA 5 repeat?😂

[onyx marlin]

Judging by the current release date anywhere from now until December 31st so theres 9 days it can be released in!

[vital venture]

Ever heard about The Elder Scrolls VI

[dark abyss]

Ruination comes before ark 2

[pallid vine]

Lol

Lol

[dark abyss]

I think you sent lol twice

[languid hamlet]

Only shows once for me

[inner sphinx]

is 2024 reall relase data?

like 100%?

[tired lintel]

We want open world survival craft mode

[stray gulch]

i called it

i fuckin called it

[untold ingot]

It could be they finish the first new story dlc for Asa, then transition their main team to ark2 and let interns remaster the community maps

[true viper]

That would be most advantageous I would think

I have to imagine that a majority of not all the art assets for Ark 2 are ready for implementation

Of course we have to learn when lost colony is projected to be out by

[safe gulch]

lol

[stray elm]

You mean post Genesis-2?
If the roadmap is still valid to any degree for the story maps, the "surprise reveal" is suppose to be released between Extinction and Gen1, so if Lost Colonies is that special surprise. Then that means the DLC is the next story-map they're currently working on.

[full kiln]

Ark is so underrated it should be 100X more popular if they did some advertising Ark would make millions for sure

[hasty solstice]

Yeah Ark need to do some more ads and not just let ppl/streamers talk about it. And i guess many that heard about Ark 1-2 is afraid to buy it because of WC/Snail known for many delays and their errors. and some streamers really is not good and just talk sh#t about it too.(Mostly happen to any game but yeah) But imo Ark anyway have its charm and is a good game, hope more give it a try, it is not that bad 🙂

[full kiln]

I agree every friend I’ve brung to Ark absolutely loved it even though they assumed it was terrible, Arks fan base kind of relies on the community but advertisement would totally help the game 👍 with a good PC Ark Ascended looks fantastic and probably one of the best graphics I’ve seen in games

[proud willow]

No, if theyd make a game that isnt riddled with bugs and full of shady shit, theyd make millions. They marketed the game pretty well

[full kiln]

🤷 I like the game

[untold ingot]

Maybe yeah

[languid hamlet]

The idea is good, execution is poor. There’s not enough content, it gets boring fast.

[sharp moat]

Vin Diesel

[untold ingot]

Ark 2 isn't out yet. It's hard to say the content of it

[fierce heart]

Has Ark 2 just been completely swept under the rug? There’s been no information on it since the “late 2024” release window like a year ago

[teal quail]

I hope they haven't forgotten because it would make a killer game if they don't fuck it up

[torpid isle]

this game is a classic case of false advertising, especially in a week lol

[true viper]

The delay has been delayed, but narratively Ark II is probably going to be a focus of the Bobs True Tales narrative

[true viper]

Personally, I think that you will think it's shit, if you already have the mindset that they'll fuck it up. Really not trying to sound like a shill with that, but that mindset can cloud perception.

[untold ingot]

Hey, you can't speak actual fact in this discord. It's not allowed

[spare hollow]

I really hope it gets delayed as much as possible, its been in production since genesis 2 was announced at the very least right? From then to 2024 wouldve been like a well polished mobile game at best with the same "we slowly build ontop of it" mindset that ark had, which slowly makes it less and less fixable because so much new content is sitting on such rusty stilts. Ark as a concept is probably my favourite genre of game so i really hope ark 2 is what ark couldve been had it not gotten tf2'd

Ok tf2'd is a bad term talking about specifically the difficulty of writing new code that runs on 10+ year old code when updating not the uh 40 year abandonment

[jade nimbus]

Also the Arat Prime release also means that they are still continuing the story.

[jade nimbus]

Delays are better than a rushed release with ton of bugs, unfinished features etc.

I just want to see some sign of progress, even if it's just a few screenshots.

[tribal chasm]

I didn't buy ASA because Character loss is still a thing, I know people who have lost 5+ characters already since the game launch (only been out a year or so btw).
Likewise I will probably hold off from buying Ark 2 until I can see they have some sort of solution for this issue.

Also I think their current system of having 70/70 people, but 0 dino spawns in the world is also a gamebreaking issue that should be accounted for in Ark 2

[copper iris]

Picking out what cane I will be using when ark 2 arrives

[azure shell]

more like picking out a coffin

[fair hollow]

8 days left til it arives??

[true viper]

Right, and the only direction the story can continue towards is Ark 2

[jade nimbus]

It is not arriving.

[jade nimbus]

That's what I'm thinking, I'm not an ark lore expert but there isn't much else to fill in.

[sullen pewter]

is ark dead

i just bought it and found highest pop was 17

[jade nimbus]

Which one?

[sullen pewter]

survival

[jade nimbus]

There are still a lot of people playing both games.

[jade nimbus]

I meant evolved or ascended?

[sullen pewter]

evolves

evolved

[jade nimbus]

There are 30000 people playing it rn

[sullen pewter]

bro what where

[jade nimbus]

Most people play singleplayer since the official servers don't exist anymore

But this channel is for ark 2, the sequel