ark-2

[desert marlin]

What tech level do you think we will be able to get to in Ark 2?

My money's on Middle Ages-esque and that alone.

[pine basin]

None I guess, at least not for a while

Tek will be like "magic" in ark 2, according to Jeremy

[desert marlin]

Bruh, way to kill the mood for speculation

[desert marlin]

Honestly might be a cool way to look at it

[pine basin]

It was what he said like 2 years ago (I think)

Ark 2 is more pre-historic

[desert marlin]

Imagine scavenging a drill from a Stryder Wreckage and wielding it (obviously with limited uses as you have no way to power it)

[pine basin]

he said something on those lines IIRC

but he wasn't much specific

[silver kraken]

Question guys

When ark 2 will be in the ps4

[fallow niche]

Never.

[silver kraken]

Why

[fallow niche]

It is new gen exclusive.

[silver kraken]

…….

[fallow niche]

It won't ever release on PS4. We also do not know when/if it will release on PS5.

[silver kraken]

It’s not on ps5 ?

Why

[fallow niche]

No. Ark 2 has not released yet.

[silver kraken]

I mean the new version of ark that on ps5 not on ps4

[fallow niche]

Ark Survival Ascended is on PS5 and new gen only, and has nothing to do with this channel.

[silver kraken]

I forgot the name of it

[fallow niche]

This channel is for Ark 2 only.

[silver kraken]

Ye ascended

[fallow niche]

Move to #general.

[silver kraken]

Srry. I thought it’s for

[barren ivy]

What happened to this

I thought ARK 2 was supposed to release in 2023 but instead we got Ascended

[split dove]

still being worked on with a current ETA of end of 2024 (for now)

[lyric lark]

It won’t be then either. Ark Ascended dlcs are scheduled to release every so often that extends to the end of 2025. So in reality, Ark 2 has a 2026 release date.

[split dove]

2 different teams working on Asa and Ark 2 at the same time

[crimson hare]

ark 2 first or gta 6 first?

[pale kindle]

They both will never launch

[limber robin]

When’s ark 2 coming out? And isn’t that Ark survival ascended?

[stray elm]

No

[hybrid coral]

Gta 6 for sure not even a question

[glossy bronze]

New drinking game for every time someone asks when is ark 2 coming out in this channel

[solid glacier]

when ark 2 is coming out ?

[tepid remnant]

never

[cunning yarrow]

Bottoms up

🍻

[old briar]

What’s the point of them releasing ARK 2 before All of ark ascended DLCs?

[blissful glen]

Dunno when it will release m8; also supposed to be a different game entirely

[old briar]

Ik it supposed to have souls like combat

[blissful glen]

Souls like combat, more pve, different gameplay/creatures/lore

Not gonna be much like Ark as it is now, other than vaguely in lore and both having Dinosaurs, from what I can gather

[snow patio]

Ark 2 ain’t never happening

[blissful perch]

More PvE true, but there was a confirmation that both PvP and PvE would be available at launch just like Asa

[blissful perch]

Because ark 2 is going to be so distinct from Asa, wc wanted to host live servers for both games at the same time so people would be able to choose their experience

[gentle ingot]

When is Ark 2 coming out?

[coarse geode]

never

[gentle ingot]

Why?

[coarse geode]

it was announced in 2020 and originally said to be released in 2022.
it has been delayed multiple times since, and currently has a vague "2024" release date labeled, but we all know that is not happening

[fallow niche]

Current release is simply end of 2024, we have no news.

[pine basin]

Maybe this Xbox showcase will bring us a nice surprise

Some will hate me, but it might happen, or not

[carmine nymph]

If ark 2 is shown during that showcase it’ll have me more worried than anything. Ark ascended is still a bit of a mess that needs to be fixed. It would worry me to hear that they are splitting man power between ascended and ark 2

[worldly garden]

pretty sure development is active on Ark 2 already anyway.

[inland snow]

I would prefer to wait and have Ark 2 on next Gen. I want my moneys worth on ASA.

[blissful perch]

WC stated that ark 2 and Asa would be on the same gen and would be active at the same time

[inland snow]

@blissful perch Then that's just splitting the player base even further. ASE,ASA and Ark 2 all going at the same time.

[pine basin]

ASE is "dead". ASA and Ark 2 have very different concepts.

[inland snow]

@pine basin ASE dead? Go look at the amount of people still playing unnoficial servers

[pine basin]

But we are talking about development efforts here.

[inland snow]

@pine basin No we are talking player base

[pine basin]

No, we are not, maybe you are. WC has no control over what people will play. ASE is "dead" regarding development efforts. They should be 100% focused on their current and future titles: ASA and Ark 2.

[inland snow]

All I'm saying is you will have 3 separate games. Spreading too little butter on a piece of toast if you will. WC may not have control but they should understand their players better. We dont care for Ark 2, Not yet at least

[pine basin]

Maybe you don't care, but there are others that would like they keep the development alive and release it ASAP. Also they're aware Ark 2 isn't for everyone, hence why ASA was released (to have an updated version of ASE). But again, ASA and Ark 2 have a very different concept, they won't compete against each other.

[inland snow]

@pine basin I hope you right.

[waxen summit]

Isn’t Ark 2 picking up on the Genesis storyline?
Because we had the Arks and then their was the colony ship that went out in search of a new world
Is Ark 2 gonna take place on the new world?

[peak hull]

looks like they milking asa before moving on to ark2

[waxen summit]

Didn’t the trailer say 2023? 😭

[inland snow]

R@waxen summit Yep sure did

@radiant wharf Of course

[blissful perch]

ASE numbers will decline steadily and likely be insignificant once all DLC content comes to Asa. As for the “Ark 2 split”, the premise is that while there IS a split between Asa and Ark 2, the substantial differences in mechanics and design will likely push some people away from one game and towards the other

For example, many people here stated they disliked the idea of more complex “souls like” combat, and instead wanted ark’s existing combat. If so? Asa is there for them. I suspect a wide variety of other features, mechanics, etc will cause people to move toward one game or the other in a way that’s not “competing for the same people”

[inland snow]

@blissful perch Why call it Ark 2 then? Surely if they are fundamentally different games it shouldn't directly relate to each other. Am I sensing Atlas vibes?

[blissful perch]

WC described it as “what ark was meant to be”, which I think is fair given ASE was in essence a very successful tech demo. However, tons of people liked that game and made it clear to WC that making something different might lose them. Hence Asa

[inland snow]

@blissful perch That was a perfect response. Thank you

[blissful perch]

Ofc. Think of the “core” of ark - survival taming. That’s what’s being made into a sequel, while a lot of the other items made along the way in ASE/ASA may get left behind

[inland snow]

Makes more sense. I thought When Ark 2 came they would abandon ASA.

[split dove]

And finally, the ultimate reason: whereas ARK2 is being designed as a Souls-like adventure, we want to provide the community with an evergreen classic-ARK experience, one that can continue to grow over time on a cleaned-up code base, leveraging new technological advancements not only in the industry but also what we’ve been working on with the ARK Franchise as a creative whole.

[blissful perch]

Yes I think the initial plan was ark 2 -> phase out/slowly abandon ASE. People strongly disliked that, so WC made Asa so ase’s “style of ark” could continue alongside Ark 2

[inland snow]

Excellent

[split dove]

Put simply: with ARK 2, our goal is to make the game that we all wanted ARK 1 to be – now that we’ve had the time, resources, and knowledge to do it right. So in ~~2023 ~~on Xbox & PC Game Pass, we’ll look forward to seeing you all in this new world of primeval creatures and legendary heroes. Just keep an eye out for Vin – he likes to play on his Series X more than you might expect, and his skill at wrangling a Giga is unequaled…

[inland snow]

As you can probably tell I'm all for ASE/ASA

[blissful perch]

I’ve been in this chat since it opened and this particular question frankly always been a topic of confusion for folks - I’m on the opposite side of the issue though 😅

[split dove]

time for change

[blissful perch]

I’ve grown away from ase/asa in a major way but still want to scratch that survival taming itch, so I’m hoping ark 2 can be that place for me

But I’ve not harbored too much hostility for folks who want ase and Asa the way they are (as long as they don’t push for bringing in features I hate from those games into ark 2)…I’m guilty of hating some things like mutation stacking pretty strongly 😉

[pine basin]

I’m playing ASA, and I kinda like in a way, but I like the Ark 2 concept more. I’ll probably play both, but I think I would spend more hours on Ark 2, if they deliver what they’ve promised.

[mild linden]

I hope ARK 2 dont have same optimization problems like asa

[celest ibex]

dont trust this company (snail games), bad optimization on ase and on asa

[thick socket]

Ark 2 pvp ?

[split dove]

yes, Ark 2 will have both pvp and pve

[undone cairn]

is theere any gameplay sneaks for ark 2

[stray elm]

Nope

[peak hull]

i really hope ark 2 gets bought out by a better publisher

[native swallow]

i hope

[tranquil yarrow]

[river mortar]

i really hope ark 2 get better servers then ASA.. because they are the same so.. same bugs

[sharp trench]

Same

[marble walrus]

I mean when Ark 2 comes out.... Im willing to bet they shut down Ark Ascended servers though.

[silver otter]

Ark 2 ase asa all same bug lol

Ark is Ark

Same wc

[marble walrus]

Ark 2 will be more like Dark Souls

which im not too big into dark souls

[silver otter]

Ark 2 maybe 2026

[fallow niche]

They have already confirmed that ASA and Ark2 will be updated and playable alongside each other.

[silver otter]

@countrymaimpossible, but I managed to keep the wing working perfectly. imagine 2 games

[fallow niche]

They have separate teams. It is possible for more than 1 game to be supported.

[marble walrus]

I hope so. Hopefully they dont have a massive debt to Nitrado or a clause in the contract that would lead to them having to shut ASA down. Good that they have announced it, but I just hope it stays that way.

[silver otter]

Ark 2 2026

Maybe maybe

Or 2030

[ripe yoke]

Ark 2 gonna release when I have have a grown up kid (I’m 16)

[lament gorge]

they should can Ark 2 and focus on what they already can't handle

[silver otter]

😂

True

[jaunty lotus]

Ha yes its long time for ark 2

[simple gyro]

hopefully ark 2 isnt pay 2 win

[rare badger]

“Souls like”…

[vocal vapor]

[simple gyro]

Shouldn’t have to pay for a Dino

[subtle bane]

There is no ark 2 asa is literally that. If anything it'll be a single player story game. The company can't handle another server drivin game they literally can't handle wat they have now. Ark 2 basically been scrapped but they just not saying it

[fallow niche]

Ark 2 is not just singleplayer, have a look at the steam page (https://store.steampowered.com/app/2050420/ARK_2/).

They have separate teams, Ark 2 and ASA will be played and updated alongside each other. Currently, Ark 2's ETA is end of 2024, but of course that can (and probably will, imo) change. They did not cancel it.

[subtle bane]

If so it won't release till 2026 they won't release it till all of asa content is out they deff don't want to have a split player base exact reason why they ended official severs on Survival evolved. I still don't see ark 2 releasing anytime soon

[blissful perch]

Except that Asa was created explicitly because so many players wanted an ase remaster that WC believed that ark 2 and Asa could coexist without splitting the same pool of players

[analog hamlet]

@spark apex

ARK: Survival Evolved Mobile:

The ARK Mobile official Discord can be found here:

Ark mobile discord

ARK Mobile players will always be welcome in this discord too!

[spark ocean]

Pretty sure Ark 2 is just a place holder name, it will be a single player souls like game. Ark is released by dlc maps... literally makes no sense to have a sequel to the multiplayer, it's already unreal 5 they just have to add more maps, what purpose would ark 2 serve? It would just be more maps, again that's what I think.

[blissful perch]

ok, but that thinking is the opposite of what WC has confirmed already

there certainly may be a subtitle, but ark 2 is confirmed to be a survival multiplayer game with souls like combat - not a single player game

the game is a sequel because ark 1 was extremely constrained by technical limitations (of coders/engines/timelines/budget/etc), and ark 2 is a far more ambitious project with major changes to what "survival taming" can look like. It's not "ark 1 again", it's "a sequel to ark's core concept"

[surreal chasm]

Hopefully ark 2 is in Xbox showcase today

Nvm I don't think it's gonna be there

[fringe vessel]

whens ark 2 release

[worldly garden]

No chance.

[surreal chasm]

Fr

[ionic meteor]

I was hoping for that to happen but since none of the devs tease it I knew it wasn't going to be there

[fallow niche]

@willow zephyr This channel is for Ark2, which has not released yet. Use #1110949794907684965 to find people to play with.

[surreal chasm]

Yea true

[surreal chasm]

Seemingly never as of now

[inland snow]

@surreal chasm From what I've been told ASA and Ark 2 will run at the same time as they to some degree will be fundamentally different games. Some people will prefer one or the other

[fallow niche]

Correct

[pallid sparrow]

where can i go to get accurate up to date info on ark 2

[fallow niche]

Pinned messages has everything afaik.

[carmine pawn]

ark 2 but it’s like extinction with skyscrapers to explore and dungeons inside it

[trim quest]

Actually that could be a fun Ark 2 map, a big ol crumbling city with dinosaurs running amok

[slender peak]

Is ark 2 gonna have same graphics as asa?

[sacred marlin]

Isn't that just extinction

Idk it's more primitive why would there be a city?

[late elbow]

[sacred marlin]

Yeah kinda it's made on the same engine

[scenic orbit]

They need made better than asa

[subtle wolf]

Atp I wouldn’t be surprised if someone makes and models the Ark 2 stuff into mods for asa

[sacred marlin]

They have to go thru with making ark 2

Can't scrap it

[slender peak]

tbh idm it having same graphics it just will need better optimization

[split dove]

Currently end of 2024 and only on PC and Xbox series X and S

[sacred marlin]

Doubt it will be able to run on the s The S is worthless

[vestal birch]

Do you mean that the game will come out at the end of 2024 as planned? They haven't said anything at the xbox event 1 week ago....

[split dove]

no, i'm just saying that end of 2024 is the current ETA they've given for it's release

[vestal birch]

And do you think they are going to comply? Are there any chances that it will actually come out at the end of this year? They have not shown gameplay or trailer or anything

[split dove]

they do tend to drop gameplay really really close to launch (mostly on launch day). but they got 2 different teams working on both Asa and Ark 2 at the same time, best bet for info this year (besides cryptic tweets and odd community crunches) imo is their yearly Extra Life charity stream in November usually is where they always reveal stuff Ark related.

[vestal birch]

The truth is that many people say that the game is abandoned, or that it doesn't exist, and that they are focusing all their teams on making ASA, so they don't believe it can come out this year. Also, it would be strange if they said in November that the game comes out a month later suddenly.

[blissful perch]

It’s unlikely, but like anything else sometimes the unlikely happens anyway

Just keep an eye on the announcements and see what happens as we get closer to the end of the year

[sacred marlin]

Idk Jeremy did say the future of the company is ASA so I feel like ark 2 is a side piece

[pine basin]

Is this official info? Last time I heard about that matter, was Jeremy saying they were fully focused on ASA.

It would reassuring to know there's at least one part of the team working on Ark 2

[split dove]

2 most recent examples i could find in the chat log that might indicate the multiple team theory (highly doubt 100% of the Ark 2 team would be transferd over to help tho, when one of the reasons Asa exists is to serve as a way to continue funding Ark 2's development as they are meant to both be playable and grow alongside each other at the same time)
#general message
#general message

[pine basin]

First one is Dollie saying she helped developing for Ark 2, but not sure if it is active right now. The second quote, it has nothing I think.

Hopefully they are indeed actively developing it, but the last time Jeremy talked something about the developements aims, he said they were fully focused on ASA. And it was after ASA's release (so it wasn't something to speed up the release).

Also, I remember they've promissed to talk more about Ark 2 after ASA's release. But instead they've completely ceased to share any information about it.

I'm still hopeful, but the picture isn't great.

[sacred marlin]

I don't really like the idea of ark 2 but for the ppl who want it I feel yall

[stray elm]

At this point, seems like more people dislike the idea of ARK-2 than that're on board with the idea.

[worldly garden]

I'm looking forward to it, something new.

[sacred marlin]

Idk I always thought of ark as a mmo that doesn't need a sequel because Ark has unlimited potential more maps items and dinos can be added idk I've been playing ark since I was 12 and I have always enjoyed it but I play pvp so it might be different feelings for ppl that play pve

[worldly garden]

well for me i got 8 years out of ASE, I don't play ASA as much because it's the same content until we get new content and maps. So the idea of Ark 2 being a game we haven't experienced before that interests me more.

when i say new content and maps I mean content that wasn't in ASE.

[sacred marlin]

Ig it's different for pvp players yeah I like content and stuff but the main draw is the pvp

[worldly garden]

Ark 2 will still have pvp though.

[mint swan]

Idk, I prefer evolved over ascended, idk I’ve been playing for 5 years, I started when I was 8 on mobile, then moved to ps4 when I was 11, and now I play on ps5, idk it just seems so OG

Well the idea of ark 2 is cool, just think about it, would wild card really release any new maps, or just add like 2 new creatures to a pre exsisting map? :/

[sacred marlin]

It's not what I like or want it's nothing like Ark 1 pvp

If you enjoy dark souls like combat Hey Good on you but personally that's not ark but I respect what everyone wants to play it's just not my cup of tea

I prefer ark 1 style of play and atleast the majority of ppl ik prefer it aswell or we wouldn't sink 30k+ hrs into it

[worldly garden]

I'd rather try something before judging it. We haven't seen anything yet, for all we know they could have changed stuff by the time it releases.

[blissful perch]

How can I convince you that talking to people with 30k hours in something will yield this answer…

[blissful perch]

I hope so. I think those confirmed traditional official pvp servers in ark 2 would be a mistake for example, since Asa has them and imo the traditional official PvP community would prefer Asa anyway

[blissful perch]

Maybe to say that ark 2 needs to be different?

[pine basin]

What do you mean by “confirmed traditional official pvp servers in Ark 2”? I didn’t see anything regarding servers for Ark 2. Or you just mean it will have pvp?

[blissful perch]

Dollie soft confirmed it here that ark 2 would have “the same PvP and PvE servers” as ark 1

[pine basin]

I was curious because you said “confirmed traditional official servers” and I thought it meant a different mode (like classic servers) more like ASA. 😂

[blissful perch]

Oh no lol

[wet shell]

Would it have the mod menues and all that crap with it?

With ark 2

[worldly garden]

Ark 2 will have mods, most likely through Curseforge and not Mod.io.

[blissful perch]

We haven’t heard much about how ark 2 modding will work or be used by players

[split dove]

all we know so far

Finally, saving perhaps the best for last, ARK 2 adds a revolutionary new feature for console players: fully stackable, user-created mods, including on unofficial servers, for the Xbox version of the game enabled through official mod support by mod.io! This means that players who create mods using the PC version will be able to upload them to the cloud and make them available for all console players to enjoy as well. With this, as we’ve seen with ARK 1 on PC, everything in the game can effectively be changed, improved, and redesigned: new creatures, new game types, new maps, new weapons & items, and mechanics (yes modders can re-add First Person mode 😉 ).

[astral token]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1012738195298983959/1251158987576049755/image.png?ex=666d901c&is=666c3e9c&hm=bafdbf30c1b32711cb8b94f4da6054125f363a4b0d60f0942e6811ae689ad77a& we still got 130k years after the gameplay changes etc. were announced

[stray elm]

Middle of work.
But I bet you most people forgot to take it off, cause that's something most people don't bother with.

[astral token]

If ARK 2 delivers what was promised (I'm not gonna say whether it will or won't), I'll predict that it'll be a hit.

[astral token]

Well they did bother to get on and add it

[blissful perch]

Most people forget to comment their interest in a new game on the old game’s discord too 😅

But you can bet good money people talking about and playing ASE and Asa all the time will likely want more of the same

[mental plume]

can't wait for my kids to play this game

[fading swan]

Ewwwww

[blissful perch]

Super curious about club ark - maybe that’ll be the standard for ark 2 in a good way

[stone mason]

Is ark 2 still a thing?

[blissful perch]

Yep

[mint swan]

Will ark 2 ever will come out of early accees or will it abondet like all other games?

Becouse atlas has ben abondet from snailgames the only way to play atlas with fun is on unofficial servers with mods like the 15x15 server from gaming evolved

[worldly garden]

Ark 2 isn't even in early access yet.

[mint swan]

I really want ark to to have like hybrids without mods, where like u can harvest Dino dna and create hybrid Dino eggs

That would be cool

[astral token]

Imo the ARK series is the only thing keeping that fucked ship afloat…so no. As long as ARK keeps making money, the games will continue to recieve development.

[untold ingot]

Hard to say, but it's wildcard not directly snail. While snail has final say, wc has been pretty consistent in doing well for the last decade

[mint swan]

not for atlas

[hasty ice]

i want atlas 2

[eager bough]

If it’s anything like ark ascendants I hope it never sees the light of day

[sacred skiff]

i was wondering where u can find thyla's on asa small tribes crossplay
msg me or reply to my msg please

[untold ingot]

Wc didn't make atlas

[mint swan]

Dollie and jat was doing

[untold ingot]

At the start, then they left and it died

[mint swan]

It died becouse no develop

The only where develop are modders that fix shit of dev spaghetticode and remove dev shit what they implementet to kill the game

[untold ingot]

Dollie and Jat left and that's when it doed

[mint swan]

Thats why i say i are not sure if ark 2 will ever come out of early access. And thst too becouse snailgames are sailing in insolvenz

They have a capital of 32 mio what is nothing

[untold ingot]

It's wc doing it, so it might work

[sacred marlin]

The atlas team basically made gen 2 among a few others

[pine basin]

It died then they left. I was there day one, it was a mess.

[pine basin]

Saying WC is doing well for the last decade isn’t accurate in my opinion. I love Ark, but the only reason I’m still here is Ark is a unique game not matched by any other, but its quality is really subpar.

Im eagerly waiting for Ark 2, but I’m 100% sure it will be as messy as ASE, ASA and Atlas.

[untold ingot]

Doing well and doing amazing aren't the same thing.

[thick moat]

yeah no doubt about that, 0 faith on wildcard pulling a decent launch, but I do expect some good gameplay ideas coming from ark 2

[worldly garden]

Are you talking about Ark 2 or ASA? You keep on about Ark 2 will never come out of early access yet the game isn't even available.

[junior marsh]

[analog helm]

I think they should just focus on optimization and get the game running good on everything before even discussing ark 2 lol. Referring to ASA

[glad badge]

If ASA doing bad then ark 2 maybe is going to do worse I’m just saying

[trim quest]

It’s hard to say anything at all about Ark 2 because we’ve only seen scraps of it here and there, it could be worse or it could literally revive the entire community. We have no way of knowing because they have shown no proper gameplay of it, hell they have hardly shown anything.

[old cedar]

They should add suchomimus

Actually nah we have too many spinosaurids

[blissful perch]

They should add to the roster as they see fit - ie if it adds something to the game

[old cedar]

They should add a boss based on the trash bird that steals the players entire lootpool on hit :Trollface:

[blissful perch]

Seagull boss? This may be the most based ark 2 take I’ve read

[old cedar]

Summons Alpha Pegos when low

[blissful perch]

I do wonder if the “world events” of ark 2 will include some form of roaming boss

[blissful perch]

Stop you can only be so genius at once

[old cedar]

And make them smart enough to only take your weapond

[blissful perch]

The next logical step is to get shot by a seagull with you own weapon

[old cedar]

Even worse

They convert it to ascended only when they use it and even when you kill them and get it back it goes back to primitive

Even if it was ramshackle or apprentice

[blissful perch]

I kinda hope ark 2 does away with ark 1’s blueprint quality 😅

But it would be funny to get one tapped by a seagull then watch it drop the used up garbage weapon on your body

Tbh all we’re missing is the seagull laughing at dead players

[analog helm]

I just don’t like 3rd person only

[calm cove]

helooooo fellow ark players

[mint swan]

hello

[torn oyster]

Ark 2 is a myth at this point oml

[dense prawn]

HL3 has a better chance of releasing 🙂

[frosty mango]

Nah tf3

[old cedar]

We can forget above both of those. We all know valve can't count to 3!

Also, TF2 is like hanging on by a thread as we speak.. what makes you think we will get a third one.

[steep portal]

GTA is relesing in 2025 what about ark 2

[fickle garnet]

2027-2030

[lavish echo]

2024 kommt ark 2 raus wie oft muss ich das noch sagen

[floral flint]

.

[latent rock]

gonna have to wait until we have tek in real life for ark 2 fr

[sacred marlin]

We almost at that lvl tbh atleast almost on par with black ops 2 technology

[shrewd junco]

We are level 85 bobs right now

[latent rock]

fr

[urban arrow]

wasnt ark two given a dead line or something to pull off some sort of effort otherwise nitrado would pull their loan

[pine basin]

No, the deadline was for ASA, they needed to release ASA prior to 11/01/2023

[urban arrow]

ah, was mistaken on that from forums then

[sacred marlin]

Microsoft funded ark 2

[urban arrow]

Did they? thought snail games still owned them and grovestreetgames helped fund them?

[dapper lynx]

Does anybody know if there's a way to increase the timer for spoil time for the dino revive?

[sacred marlin]

No Microsoft paid big bucks for it to be a limited exclusive for windows/Xbox

And steam basically your fucked if you play ps5

[urban arrow]

Fair and yet here we are lol

[hoary smelt]

What I heard is that xbox and Playstation will eventually become 1 it's just rumors but I am hoping they make ark 2 story to play

[dapper niche]

If playstation and xbox stopped fighting over terrain , it would actually be a lot easier for gamers , remember back when they were planning to do cross-platform?
Then sony decided to shove a stick up it's ass and it's been all-out console wars eversince.

[urban arrow]

Maybe, joint servers but I doubt they'd ever actually become one because it's two different buisness types

[dapper niche]

Now Microsoft is actually being smart, and basically has the monopoly on cross-play , meaning sony is slowly going out of business.

Deserved in my opinion.

[hoary smelt]

Facts

[pine basin]

No, they will pay WHEN it's released.

[sacred marlin]

Literally read a article abt it but ok

[pine basin]

you probably read MS and Sony paid Snail for ASE and ASA

[sacred marlin]

Ms? Microsoft

[pine basin]

ASE is/was in PS Plus and Game pass, and ASA is game pass

[pine basin]

yeah

They never paid anythink for Ark 2, at least no so far

WC needs to release it first

[sacred marlin]

Yes ofc they get paid to have the game on gamepass it was specifically abt ark 2 and that they bought the rights for Xbox exclusivity

[pine basin]

Never saw anything regarding payments for Ark 2

I would like to see this article

AFAIK, MS will pay them when it's released and the exclusivity period begins

[violet notch]

Read that aswell

[arctic ginkgo]

Ark don't need a 2

Good another

[gusty storm]

Ya if they came out with it I am not buying I am done with asa can't even load in after every update it's not worth it.

[sand crystal]

Nothing beats OG Ark

[thick bridge]

I am the future

Welcome

[fair flame]

Hey guys, I was talking to a friend today about the ark 2, if anyone would mind updating me on the current situation

[split dove]

current release window is end of 2024 for PC and Xbox series X and S launch exclusive.

[analog bison]

what abt ps5

[sand tinsel]

nothing has been said about ark2 launch for ps5 so it will prob drop later than on pc and xbox

[analog bison]

damn it

[lapis elbow]

Highly doubt they will make that date.

Genesis maps dates are in 2025, so I do not see them releasing ARK II before remaking Genesis DLCs.

I do not even see the game coming in 2025 tbh.

They won’t say if it is still on track or not because we all know how we all would react.

[loud star]

Case #46003 @cosmic cove has been muted for 2 hours.
Reason: Mass Tagging

[stuck fossil]

ark 2 is going to be worse than ark 1 or asa its been a downhill spiral since launch

[mint swan]

Ark 2 is not a thing anymore

[green basin]

Come on devs just put a yes if it’s still on track for this year put a no if it’s on track for next year and put a fuck you if it’s not coming out💀💀💀

[icy vector]

I really hope they don't make this game. Ark ascended is buggy as fuck and its the 3rd release of the same game. The company puts out new content as distractions while the base game plays like shit. If you can't fix your game, I hope they stop making games.

[tardy jetty]

Wait, 3rd? I know there’s ASE and ASA, but what would the 3rd be?

[icy vector]

Legacy, ASE, ASA

[tardy jetty]

Legacy?? Sorry, I’m not too privy to the more technical(?) terms..

[icy vector]

Legacy was the first release of ark, before Tek Tier. Legacy lasted about a year and when Ragnarok was released they shit down legacy servers and created new servers for ASE

[fallow niche]

@tight cloak #unofficial-setup-help.

[worldly garden]

There is only 2 releases of Ark, ASE and ASA. Legacy is just the old servers when they decided to launch new servers. It was still the same game, unlike ASA.

[pine basin]

Legacy were the servers, not the game itself. The game was the same, they just created new servers and waited until people moved (the great migrations they’ve called it).

Ark 2 is supposed to be the third iteration of Ark

[vestal birch]

Probably they will say somethingnof ark 2 in Gamescom ?

[pine basin]

I doubt it

At this point, I wouldn’t expect anything big

If they have something to say, they will just use this discord, YouTube, Twitter etc

[latent rock]

cant wait for ark 3

[blissful perch]

This guy agrees

[worldly garden]

Nah doubt there will be. Ark hasn't even been at any of these big shows for a long time anyway.

[solid zealot]

I wonder what kind of fresh hell ARK 2 will be

Asa is more glitchy than ASE and with the addition of mods causes so much down time with updates

[bitter nebula]

Asa is a better game then ase

Cheaters optimization and maps is all it’s needing fixed

The skins make it more unique and mods are very cool

[ebon kettle]

Worst opinion I've heard so far

[spark grove]

Except ASE is more stable and building gives you more freedom on shapes but sure I suppose

[fallow niche]

Take that to #general or #ark-survival-ascended please. This is for Ark2.

[analog hamlet]

@shadow leaf

If you wish to dispute a game ban, you can submit an appeal.

Click here to submit a game ban appeal.
(you need to sign in to your forum account)

[fair plover]

Is ark2 the asa?

[split dove]

no

[fair plover]

Then what is ark 2

[split dove]

the sequel to Ark survival evolved, Asa is the remaster of Ark 1

look up the ark 2 store page on xbox

[cerulean cosmos]

another game to update and not work on a platform? yay

[prime plinth]

Is ark 2 even coming out in 2024 because it looks like ase has taken over and they are updating that now

[lapis sequoia]

They’re not updating ASE

[prime plinth]

so ark 2 might be coming soon?

[lapis sequoia]

More likely not. Not until they’re done with ASA. Which roadmap says atleast a year

[prime plinth]

ohhhh i mean asa which they were updating, got the names mixed up

[lapis sequoia]

You’re good mate! They start the ASA project to gain more experience on UE5 so they make Ark2 truly a game of beauty

[worldly garden]

It's not clear when Ark 2 is expected. They are meant to be doing it so that ASA and Ark 2 will be developed side by side, so it's not necessarily a case of waiting until ASA is finished.

[prime plinth]

oh ok i didnt know it was side by side

[faint whale]

I hope for at least 5 more years of development, so its not as bad as asa lol

[mint swan]

how much will ark 2 cost

[tame geode]

At least 7

[maiden valve]

deutsche hier ???

[vernal junco]

ja

[marble terrace]

WHEN DOSE ARK2 come

[austere cliff]

Will never be released

[polar nacelle]

@austere cliff wait what

why

[worldly garden]

it will be released, the only info we have is late 2024, but that's unlikely.

[buoyant pumice]

As much as I personally dislike where snail games has taken ASA and what the devs have done for the most part minus things like paid cosmetics, the removal of so much useless foliage, club ark if they ever bring Official ORP servers like what a good chunk of the community wants, PLEASE don't rush this game. If they bomb ASA more ark 2 is pretty much they're entire redemption ark and they have a chance of making a really solid souls like game. They shouldn't give a solid timeframe for ark 2 until it's damn near certain to come out but if we rush ark 2 like other games have been rushed like cyberpunk it's going to be absolute trash. So please give them the ability to work on ark 2 without being rushed. ASA is clearly getting rushed and that's already biting the community in the but a bit. Let them do their work it's not easy to make a game of quality. I personally only hope they break the cycle and make Ark 2 a finished game at drop.

[fading valley]

The only reason they rush is due to financial situations, it all comes down to money. Plus only the devs or publisher can rush the game, its not the players fault lol.

[buoyant pumice]

And I get that I'm not saying it's fully on the player, I've actually been hardcore calling wc out for a min on their shenanigans. Basically what I'm saying is don't give their greedy little minds any ideas about rushing it because we'll have the same situation we're dealing with with ASA

[fading valley]

they are already wringing out as much as possible, i doubt ark 2 will have a better situation, unless the devs change their attitude and the game is really good

[marble raft]

It will be released in2026

[blissful perch]

I was with ya until the last sentence. Ark 2 is confirmed an early access release

But I agree that it would be great if it came out with a more robust set of features (like Asa) than ASE (which was a tech demo, especially at 2015 launch)

[ember dome]

they adding gritty update

[forest hill]

G

[untold ingot]

Ark2 will be a tech demo too

[pine basin]

I don't think so, the tech demo is ASA. Ark 2 won't be really different, unless they take another 5 years to release it. At least graphically. Maybe it can be a tech demo for gameplay features (as the gameplay will be completely different from the other games of the franchise).

[untold ingot]

That's what I meant lol

[ember dome]

jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj'

[blissful perch]

I’m not so certain ark 2 will be a minimally viable product on launch. I’m skeptical WC at this size can ignore some level of polish and mechanical depth (which would take ark 2 out of a minimal tech demo state)

[blissful perch]

Imo it’ll certainly be an experiment, but I think it’ll have a fuller suite of features and mechanics than ASE…which had a tiny roster and very little content/mechanics available due to it being a Kickstarter style project

[pine basin]

I'm not so certain there will ever be a lauch. LOL

[blissful perch]

Fair play lol

[river mortar]

i wish not, they cant fix this new old one, imagine trying to play a 2

[blissful perch]

Why fix what’s already broken 😛

[pine basin]

My motto... Ark 2 would be better than ASA for me

but I guess I know why they've decided to go the other way

[blissful perch]

Doesn’t make it less sad for us who want ark 2 😔

[heady garnet]

fak ark 2

we need asa for longer

[blissful perch]

Not everyone is ready for change, can’t argue with that

[spark grove]

No best case is 2025 if at all

[dim plaza]

asa is just a money drive for Ark 2.. once Ark 2 is finished Snail is most likelyg onna pull the plug on Asa and just do Ark 2 i can already see it coming the playerbase is already split between old and new and half of the modders are staying with ASE as well lol

[sacred marlin]

If they pull the plug on asa then they will lose 80% of there player base

[fallow niche]

ASA and Ark 2 have been said they will be updated and played alongside each other, they won't pull the plug on it.

[split dove]

There are various reasons we’ve decided to take this approach. One is to refine the development team’s skills on UE5 and how far it can be pushed for next-generation titles (ARK 2).. Another factor is for business reasons. Developing a next-generation sequel while no longer releasing paid expansion packs has proven difficult for our Studio’s long-term survival, so we need to continue generating revenue while we develop ARK 2. And finally, the ultimate reason: whereas ARK2 is being designed as a Souls-like adventure, we want to provide the community with an evergreen classic-ARK experience, one that can continue to grow over time on a cleaned-up code base, leveraging new technological advancements not only in the industry but also what we’ve been working on with the ARK Franchise as a creative whole.

[pine basin]

Makes no sense. It would make more sense to pull the plug for Ark 2.

P.S.: I was/am enthusiastic about Ark 2, but my hopes for it are low

[cyan sedge]

if they pull it for ark 2 im done with ark altogether, only reason im playing asa is for the release of ark 2 hopefully by end of 2025

[dim plaza]

They also Said that the UE5 update "AsA" was suppose to be a free update, They also said they wouldnt make Pay to Win DLCs, what they say and do are 2 different things

[fallow niche]

They explained why that wasn't able to be free, in detail. They also told us ASA was because they needed cash flow to continue working.

Ark 2 is releasing at some point, and they've stated multiple times that ASA will be updated with Ark 2, since they know a lot of people aren't going to be into the souls like style of Ark 2. All of this information is readily available in the community crunches. If you're mad, then that's fine, but take ASA rants to #general or #ark-survival-ascended.

[dim plaza]

Im not mad lol

[stray elm]

This channel isn't for ASA.

[carmine pawn]

but ark asa isn’t the second game ?

[stray elm]

No, it's a remaster of Survival Evolved.
ARK-2 is a seperate title.

[carmine pawn]

k thx I forgot about it

[worthy lake]

Wsg

Wsp

[feral crystal]

Ark 2 will be soul like Elden Ring ?

[blissful perch]

Doubtful. Probably closer to Conan

[verbal wind]

conan has similar combat to souls games

[split dove]

Only souls like thing will be the player combat

[dull thorn]

disgusting

[fallow niche]

@maiden valve #1110949794907684965.

[sacred marlin]

Well they also said the stats will be similar

[slate pelican]

It'll be more like Conan Exiles but with dinosaurs minus the magic & gods but replaced with probably slight technology but mainly primitive locked

Since it will based on the new planet which is not a planned out Ark station you can probably expect bosses to be open world or more open world arena type style, u at least won't be teleporting to a boss arena

Might lean in on a more primitive Rust like PVP system and not a huge emphasis on 'turrets' as technology won't really be a thing supposedly

I don't know... personally never was in a hype for Ark 2 after their last large breakdown of it because it just sounds like not a true sequel and more a break away new take on the franchise idea. Which is not what a sequel is.

It would be hard to strike a balance in my mind with game progression because i fear it's gonna either be very tedious or very mundane/boring. whereas Ark's current system strikes probably a good balance mainly because its simple, straight forward

Just seems to me they going too far away from what makes Ark and what put Ark on the map, in favour of experimenting with a new sub-genre covered by the title of a Sequel to a huge known game. Plastering the title Sequel on anything secures rating and sales so 🤷‍♂️

[blissful perch]

I’d argue ark right now is the definition of tedious and boring

What makes ark is the combination of survival sandbox and taming the wildlife…which appears to be continued into the sequel title. This is certainly not a direct clone sequel but I don’t think it’s a spinoff or anything either. It appears to be more of a conceptual sequel

[slate pelican]

It could be far more tedious and boring and I definitely wouldn't call ark's progression right now that. If anything the emphasis is a no brainer to rush to end game or your screwed but, I mean I don't know if there's any reason not to do that meta-wise

Ark 2 strips the technology aspect of it.... which is a massive change for a game labelling itself as a sequel. It would be like GTA 6 but they decided to remove cars for a more slow-paced & travel immersive experience

Like I said it... wouldn't be bad on paper if it wasn't a sequel and more a spin off/another take on the universe. But to me as of what little we know, it's far too different and a Sequel cannot be that different otherwise it stops being a sequel

[blissful perch]

I’d argue the removal of the tek tier doesn’t mean the removal of a vast progression system…which I think is what you’re describing

WC confirmed tek still being relevant in the story and environment, so it’s not like ark 2 is suddenly not in the ark universe

[slate pelican]

its not just tek tier its everything

it's everything past stone for the most part

which includes guns

[blissful perch]

That’s just not accurate though…we have hard confirmation that there’s a progression system up to scrap tek gear

[slate pelican]

that must be all new info

[split dove]

^

more than 1 year old as of now

[blissful perch]

Not new…actually pretty old. We have no idea what it does, but it appears as though there’s a tech progression for the items

[slate pelican]

thats primitive stuff lol

[blissful perch]

I’d argue ark (or a sequel) doesn’t need tek rifles and jetpacks to work

Since guns weren’t confirmed off the table we might also see flintlocks and muskets even if that’s as far as we get

[slate pelican]

No not tek tier, butactual modern day equipment

muskets and flint locks are prim gear

[blissful perch]

I’m not really sure we need that either. I think the tames are the core, and the gear is the flavor

Obviously only having ark’s primitive early game gear and nothing else sounds awful. But I suspect ark 2 will have plenty of gear progression to make the experience interesting

[split dove]

also component-based item crafting will add to the interest

[blissful perch]

True, but I think mist also is correctly pointing out that only one spear bow and sword is gonna be boring. We’re gonna need other weapons and gear that we can progress to, even if there’s a lot of added diversity via the component system

[slate pelican]

Yeah but that strips away from what Ark was built upon it's exactly what i am talking about.
All of that sounds neat, for a Spin Off or just an entirely new game franchise with tameable and rideable dinosaurs, not Ark.

It should at least go up to modern day equipment. If you change too much of the previous game the further you stray from it the less of a sequel it is. That's what i've been arguing since that information released.

[blissful perch]

I guess our disagreement is what ark is?

In my mind ark is built off the creature taming and the general surviving in a hostile world with a lot of open world/sandbox characteristics

It sounds like you disagree?

[slate pelican]

I don't know it just feels like they aren't making a sequel, for the playerbase to succeed to, instead they are attempting to draw in an entire new replacement playerbase with the argument/excuse that they remastered Ark 1 you have that. Which to me just isn't right. Ark is one of my favourite game of all time, I've been playing it since the original Xbox release in Early Access (a few months after it dropped on Steam). Invested thousands of hours in it, kinda spent most my teenage years on it. Dropped out of school days more times that ever should have lol just to swing an anky.

So I am passionate about it, I do feel I have a almost a stake in the title as I'm sure most OG's would feel and say the same. It feels like this 'Sequel' is basically going too far away from what made Ark.

I'm for change, but I have a very specific set of rules for what is Sequel and what is not. Like for example if they just removed the 2 and said this isn't a direct sequel but more of a continuation of the journey in a new way, new style of sandbox survival, then sure. I wouldn't have any issue with it. I just would never see it as an Ark 2 just another Ark IP and if it's good, I'd play the hell out of it.

But what i have been caught on and it is the hill I will die on if needs me lol, I just don't at this moment from what we know, see it as a sequel. I see it as a entirely new game, Like Red Dead is separate from GTA, but they using the Sequel title to secure better sales

[blissful perch]

Hmm

[slate pelican]

That perception could change in time, when we actually know/hear more this year. My opinion could entirely flip. But because of what little we know, amongst dozens of other factors I cannot be anything but cautious, sceptical and or I guess 'negative'. Cause these days with life and or just game development I'm defaulted at 'negative' until you win me over enough to be positive. That's just me though more so with pre-existing titles

[blissful perch]

I don’t think any of what you said is unreasonable

My personal take has been that ark isn’t the type of game that ever needs a sequel in the traditional sense. Nobody would care about “rust 2” in the same way. Why do a sequel for ark when you could do a DLC? So in my mind Ark 2 would need to be substantially different and not be built entirely off Ark 1…it needs a different spin on the core of Ark (taming wildlife and surviving in a hostile environment)

However I do think there’s a valid concern that older players feel they’re being left behind when ark the series moves without them. I think some of that is outside anyone’s control (see: any community as time passes and companies and people move on from games) and some of that is a feeling that Asa might not stick around despite WC’s assurances

[mint swan]

i demand it to be free

[frosty lagoon]

2 dolla

[mint swan]

no free

[frosty lagoon]

is there a planned year for ark 2 to be released or is it still TBA

[split dove]

currently end of 2024

[terse carbon]

no

[graceful gyro]

Definitely won't buying another title from this hot garbage company... how after 7yrs you can't get nothing right is beyond me....

[slate pelican]

TBA. It's gonna be probably mid next year earliest. We will hear from it in September I believe as a surprise reveal but it won't be the actual launch, more so probably a surprise reveal of more of the game and a set release date next year.

You have to count for the fact that this is Wildcard and see how ASA was handled/ is being. That was a remaster of pre-existing game. Obviously there was a lot of new things done to it to make it what it is right now but....yeah to think A entire Sequel on a engine they just are getting the hang of with a very different mechanic system etc completely from the ground up assuming they aren't just gonna be pulling ASA assets you will not se eit any sooner than July 2025

[slate pelican]

That's definitely not true, if they got nothing right they wouldn't have made it past the Scorched release 7 years ago lol.

They got a lot right, doesn't mean they haven't gotten a lot wrong too especially recently.

[graceful gyro]

Oh so you play other games that constantly roll back servers and waste your time .. and call it a success ??? Lol funny guy ... or say a re release for free of your game is coming then charge ppl for it ?? And say there stuff won't be lost and wipe it ... lol bro come on ..

[blissful perch]

I agree that WC's mistake was promising no-wipes during early access especially...it causes some really strange errors and lingering bugs/exploits/balance problems that could be avoided with wipes

as for poor servers for official...that's kinda the player's fault at a certain point for not knowing better after years 😓 . With all the updates, bugs, crashes, etc it's a certainty some servers will be down or need rollbacks

hoping ark 2 does NOT promise no wipes for official during early access, but we'll see

[formal hollow]

Bro why did they make a channel for something that's not coming out

[distant nova]

ark2 will launch yet ? xD

[pine basin]

Not cancelled so far... so maybe.

[strange ginkgo]

more paid to win things to fund ark 2! go go

[shrewd solstice]

ark 2 is hypothetical

[lapis elbow]

Ark 2 is the friends we made along the way

[glacial herald]

Spanish??

[versed thorn]

eou

[fiery sparrow]

I've been saying this since ark 2 was announced

[real nebula]

guys.. what if

ark 5 was the friends we made along the way

[boreal blaze]

Ark... 5?

[jovial nexus]

ARK2

[clever pond]

[jovial nexus]

Is ARK2 going to be so realistic?

[boreal blaze]

I hope so

[violet notch]

Ark2 who? XXD

[lavish echo]

[jolly tartan]

is ark ascended ark 2 or nah

[split dove]

no

[mint swan]

Never will get realeased becouse snail games get the money out that means if it go longer so developer will lose theyr job and the most tragic would be that they not even can have the rights of ark back becouse snail never will give it back to wildcard

[violet notch]

Dw we will get more fantastic tames XD

Or maybe back to the future skins

[mint swan]

In best case wildcard close the code of ark and make it impossible to sell the ark code becouse his yousles with not the knowhow and then they make a new company where all wildcard developer work on a new game with no shity shi haytai

That wildcard join snailgames was the worst deccision they ever make

[tiny lantern]

what the hell is shity shi haytai

[mint swan]

The ceo of snail games the person that have ruin ark atlas and all other games

The person that pay him self every month a big money bag and developers work for a hunger lohn

[lavish echo]

[sweet grail]

I have a suggestion for Ark Survival Evolved in general (For Ark 2 or Ark Ascended). for all PVP and PVE official. I think it would be a good idea to have a flag that allows the player to claim the area within that area. 1 flag per tribe. The area should be about 500x500 foundation. Anything within that area should have a despawn timer of 30 days if any player from the tribe does not refresh it. Anything outside that area should have a 24 hour timer. For pve this will insentivice to not spawn entire maps with pillars. and for PVP it would make pvp players work to get stablish in strategic areas in order to protect and/or be near resources they want to protect. Never the less, for both pvp and pve official it would also incentivized intelligent building depending on what the tribe wants to prioritize weather is taming/breeding or resource gathering. This would promote resource trading specially on pve.

[blissful perch]

so kinda similar to ATLAS?

because I believe that system was cheesed super easily by people outside of a mega or alpha using their claim flags to clog the map up

[untold ingot]

Easy cheese. Make secondary tribes, claim the whole map. There literally is no solution to land grabbing other than making resources really hard to get

[lavish echo]

:

[earnest adder]

Who wanna make a clan dm me

PS4

[lavish echo]

PS5 xobox x und s und PC 2024

[tiny island]

Couldn’t drop Ark 2, there’s a bee in the studio

[lavish echo]

Ok

[blissful perch]

Well, assuming the tribe system is the same. You COULD force everyone into one of three tribes who each can claim a max of 1/3 of the map for example. Then it’s easy XD

[lavish echo]

[split dove]

*PC and Xbox series X/S only for end of 2024 release atm

[stark monolith]

Crazy if you think this company can make an ark 2. Best we can hope for is they eventually sell to literally any other company even one that sells jelly beans.

[mint swan]

💀

[lavish echo]

Falsch 😡

[lavish echo]

ja das ist richtig 🙂

[icy nebula]

[lapis elbow]

“ 2024 “

[lavish echo]

ja 2024 ark 2

[gentle falcon]

When is ark fixing the xbox crash when opening inventory? Is there a patch for that

[lavish echo]

ja

[finite dove]

Is x box sever back yet

For the x box game core

[south shore]

Still dead

[finite dove]

dang

I wanna play man

[south shore]

Same

[sweet grail]

I think that would be very easy to solve. Ark devs can make it one flag per official pvp or pve per map. Per game. That should not be too hard to do. Every Steam player has a Steam ID. One flag per map, Per steam ID... I dont know if i am explaining my self well lol

[untold ingot]

Except the game isn't just steam players, so steam ID doesn't work. They use epic ids. There are ways to spoof the system and get literally unlimited accounts with those numbers. (people do it all the time) so a system like that basically just makes the possibility for a 30 refresh to owning the whole map.

[sweet grail]

you are right. that multy sytem play between steam, xbox, ps5, and others...might be a problem.

[untold ingot]

The issue with stuff like this is that people are smart enough to cheese orp timers like that (and that's essentially what this is).

[sweet grail]

But if anything, maybe if they tag our GPU hardware ID... that would work. I mean, that is how they ban people. Might as well use that information for good. No one can fake that unless they are computer ingeneers. which I doubt is more than 1% of the gaming population. Which would make life for 99% of us better.... hmmm maybe?

[untold ingot]

Yeah, using gpu hardware id to stake a land claim on a game is totally a safe method of doing it. 😅

Using it as authentication to join (through an anticheat) and using it to catalog people is totally different

[sweet grail]

What is safe online? to be fair...nothing if you are thinking everyone is able to hack or cheat on anything. Truth is 99.9 percent of the population is ignorant to complex computer information. But at some point people have to try solutions. And there are many things they can try. Computer hardware tags, ID tags, or others....

[untold ingot]

That is a really bad excuse for not being secure though

[sweet grail]

Online, nothing is 100% secure. Not banks, not goverment, and even less a game. But those hackers/Cheater eventually get caught. That should not mean that developers should not try a solution.

[untold ingot]

Easiest best solution would be to tie tribe and character data to the account itself. And leave it at that. It's not flawless but it's simple and easy enough.

[untold ingot]

Eh. It really depends on the encryption.

[sweet grail]

Chase bank has been hacked. Hackers have been caught with american secrets or any other secrets. I mean, nothing is safe. But that should not stop us from trying to get some things to work :p

[untold ingot]

Modern systems are secure enough that most actual hacking these days is due to bad security on the part of the coders.

[sweet grail]

there is not uncrackable encryption. Even the iphone can be hacked, whatsup can be hacked, any computer can be hacked. Eventually any encryption can be hacked. :p

[untold ingot]

It's not foolproof, but designing code to be less secure because "it's never 100% secure" is a really really bad idea

[sweet grail]

and wait until we quantum computers where it would take any encryption in seconds just with brute force.

[untold ingot]

... Eh. Maybe so. But practically it's more complicated than that

[sweet grail]

you know that many coders have been replaced by AI? which means that "security" it will eventually mean "when the bad guy gets caught". Therefore, there is no security. But making it hard for average people anything is part of the solution to deter hacks or cheaters in games 😛

[untold ingot]

Um, coders aren't really being replaced by Ai. At least not the ones dealing with security. Ai doesn't write secure code as of yet

[sweet grail]

I got family working in stuff in regards for that. AI is replacing coders. I wish it wasnt true but...IT is.

[untold ingot]

I am working in that stuff. If a dev is being replaced by an Ai, it's because they really weren't a good dev

[pallid flume]

Ark survival evolved is better

[untold ingot]

Being as ark2 hasn't been released yet, sure

[lavish echo]

Richtig

[lavish echo]

✅

[dusky acorn]

Will Ark 2 and ark accended replace ark 1?

Or it will still be there?

[blissful perch]

Ark 1 (ASE) is already “gone” in that WC has stopped support for it.

So yes, Asa will replace ASE directly and ark 2 will be a sequel

[lavish echo]

ark 2 ist die Fortsetzung von ase

[dull thorn]

kann es kein englisch

[untold ingot]

Yeah that's what I was saying

[coral tangle]

Nein. ASA ist ein remake von der ersten game.

[lavish echo]

ark 2

[gentle glacier]

Delayed

[novel valve]

How yall working on a 3rd game when yall can't get updates right

[lethal linden]

I hope you don’t think the 3rd will work 🤣

[grand magnet]

We are sorry to inform you that ARK 2 has been officially thrown into the trash can since we cannot figure out how to bring out patches in ASA

[novel valve]

Lmaoo yess

[summer mason]

@grand magnet 100% facts. Plus gta 6 will be out by then

[grand magnet]

true

[summer mason]

Gta6 won't let us down like ark does.

[still stag]

🤔 i think dune will came out first

[lavish echo]

[dusky acorn]

Will ark ascended give us free dlc maps???

[stray elm]

That's what Scorched and The Center are for.

[soft meteor]

wtf is wrong with the downtime

[shadow minnow]

🥺

[dusky acorn]

only 2 mapsv

[stray elm]

Yeah, out of the 12 in total slowly being rereleased with ASA.

[dusky acorn]

oh k

[lavish echo]

[tidal glade]

Chupapi muñaño?

[lavish echo]

Was?

[dusky acorn]

What are the new dinos in ASA???

[lavish echo]

Was?,

[lavish echo]

Ja wahrscheinlich

[brisk field]

When will ark 2 be realease?

[leaden fern]

dunno

[lavish echo]

Bald kommt es

[split dove]

Atm end of 2024 with a likelyhood of delays

[lilac merlin]

With delays its more like 2034

[vernal inlet]

After the 2719 release date, it’ll come to PlayStation a year later but with delays it would be around a few centuries later

[lavish echo]

[lavish echo]

2024

[lavish echo]

[lavish echo]

2024

[median spade]

have cn player？

[rapid crystal]

is this game ever dropping

like in this decade atleast

i just want to be alive at its release date

[lavish echo]

[icy orbit]

I just want to see proof that it exists at this point. Because everything the Devs said about the Game had me super Excited

[untold ingot]

Anytime it's mentioned they seem to act like it's on back burner since Asa is such a pain rn

[icy orbit]

Yeah it was revealed in 2020 you would think we would have at least seen some sort of Gameplay by now. Not just CGI and Concept art.

[lavish echo]

nein haben wir nicht gesehen

[icy orbit]

Das ist mein punkt warum müssen wir so lange warten auf etwas

[lavish echo]

richtig

[twilit gull]

[next flame]

Ark 2 isn't a thing, never will be. 😂

[regal valve]

I think ARK 2 will come out after all the maps get remastered for ASA

[subtle pasture]

When ark 2 comes out I can finally play with my brothers and their friends again🤧

[tired sinew]

lol

[lavish echo]

ASA alle Karten werden verschoben

[paper tulip]

im a kid ill prob have kids by the time this map comes out

[lavish echo]

Welche Karte

[earnest nymph]

Seeing how fjordur will likely get remastered at end of 2025/early 2026, we will be waiting a while.

[lavish echo]

Das ist richtig

[humble bobcat]

why is my asa so choppy and it also says something like a lag spike with weaphandcuffes

and my game just looks fuzzy and low quality

[humble bobcat]

why are there little cubes everywhere on the beach in asa

bro I can't with these * on asa its so annoying

[humble bobcat]

god wild card your performance on asa is horrible I would have most of my settings on medium and still get lag spikes

@drowsy ibex @unkempt wing you guys need to work on performance I joined a server teleporting everywhere your game is horrible performance wise. you focus on quality of life and Detail but not performance

and I can't type anything without getting ***

[blissful perch]

Homie if you’re playing ark 2 already can you tell me how you got it? Dunno why else you’d be talking about game performance here

[humble bobcat]

Xbox pc

its so laggy

it was on gamepass

[blissful perch]

Ark 2? Not ark ascended (which isn’t ark 2)?

[humble bobcat]

no asa🤦‍♂️

I was playing asa

[blissful perch]

Ah, so you’re in the wrong chat 😉

[humble bobcat]

ohhhhh

whoops

[digital pendant]

is this game even a thing still

[lament flicker]

#maketheoasisaurbigger

Ima kid instead of gta 6 memes it will be ark 2 memes

“I had a family before ark 2”
“2035 before ark 2”
“200th president before ark 2”

[errant wing]

prob not

they said late 2024 but it’s still tba on steam so i bet that’s not true

[dusky acorn]

ASA requirements are to much guys

[lavish echo]

2024

[cloud salmon]

Nah, ARK 2 prolly comin’ in 2050, this shit’s been slow

[void urchin]

optimistic but ok

[lavish echo]

Ich bin der Wächter von Ark 2

[lavish echo]

Hat das Ark Survival Ascended Kein allgegenwärtiges Radar – Tiere verfolgen und jagen jetzt durch Sehen, Hören und Riechen! Verstecke dich vor Raubtieren mit visueller Tarnung und Hindernissen aus der Umgebung und lerne, deinen Geruch zu überdecken! Die dynamische Wegfindung ermöglicht es Kreaturen, Hindernisse und von Spielern gebaute Strukturen intelligent zu manövrieren. Da in Spiel drinnen ja oder nein

[atomic solstice]

GTA6 is coming before ARK2💀

[marble terrace]

nooooooooooo

[viscid nacelle]

ark ascended is the ark 2 right?

[marble terrace]

no

[marble terrace]

no

[viscid nacelle]

what is ascended then

[marble terrace]

its just a graphics update basically

in a nutshel

[hushed jasper]

one where the 4090 is shitting itself on higher settings 💀

[inland minnow]

I’m on Xbox and mine can look good without lagging at all

[marble terrace]

cuse its xbox and its probly not on higher

[inland minnow]

Ye but it still looks fine higher graphics are overrated

[marble terrace]

lol

[hushed jasper]

^

[hushed jasper]

loo

[marble terrace]

You should be on Xbox if you think that

[pulsar wagon]

Essentially Ark 1.5. They remastered the old game to make it run smoother and look nicer.

[lavish echo]

Hat das Ark Survival Evolved Kein allgegenwärtiges Radar – Tiere verfolgen und jagen jetzt durch Sehen, Hören und Riechen! Verstecke dich vor Raubtieren mit visueller Tarnung und Hindernissen aus der Umgebung und lerne, deinen Geruch zu überdecken! Die dynamische Wegfindung ermöglicht es Kreaturen, Hindernisse und von Spielern gebaute Strukturen intelligent zu manövrieren. Da in Spiel drinnen ja oder nein

[pulsar wagon]

Ich denke, Sie sehen sich die Informationen zu Ark 2 an. Ich habe in meinem Kommentar an diesen Kerl über Ark Ascended gesprochen. Ascended hat jedoch eine viel bessere KI

[alpine wedge]

when ark 2 release?

[pulsar wagon]

good one

[lavish echo]

Bald

[lavish echo]

Bald

[young wing]

Ark 3 May 10, 2030

[lavish echo]

Ark 3 das dauerte noch ganz lange

[pulsar wagon]

Dürfen wir hier in anderen Sprachen reden?

[lavish echo]

nicht wirklich

[lavish echo]

Hat das Ark Survival Ascended Kein allgegenwärtiges Radar – Tiere verfolgen und jagen jetzt durch Sehen, Hören und Riechen! Verstecke dich vor Raubtieren mit visueller Tarnung und Hindernissen aus der Umgebung und lerne, deinen Geruch zu überdecken! Die dynamische Wegfindung ermöglicht es Kreaturen, Hindernisse und von Spielern gebaute Strukturen intelligent zu manövrieren. Da in Spiel drinnen ja oder nein

[stray elm]

Just a side note, but y'all may wanna try to speak in English.
Admins/mods may come in here and see.

[pulsar wagon]

i can speak english, i’m just using discords translator

i don’t speak a lick of german lmfao

[sacred marlin]

Qui qui

[tulip grotto]

Ark 2 dead 🪦🪦🪦🪦

Not any recent information

[whole sinew]

i think ark 2 will come out at half 2025 or 2026

[tulip grotto]

Friend, don't you know the developers of Ark?🤭😅

[whole sinew]

think about it if it comes out in 2025 it will come out with gta 6 so nobody will care about it so its 2024-2027 i hope its 2024

[whole sinew]

😂 🤣

[tulip grotto]

Now all game developers are waiting for the release date of gta on PC, because no one benefits from releasing a game with gta, as it will be a hundred percent explosion

[whole sinew]

yup thats why ark 2 will come out so late

[sullen venture]

Wasn't this shit canceled

[split dove]

No, just delayed

[marble terrace]

for 2 years

[icy orbit]

I think they will not release Ark 2 before all the ASA DLC's are out.

[pine basin]

It's a possibility, but at this point, there's no reason to talk about Ark 2 anymore.

I think we are almost 2 years without any kind of news

They were supposed to release more info after ASA was out of the door, but instead they just went radio silent about it

[lavish echo]

Alle dlcs werden von asa verschoben

[hollow wolf]

Ark 2 will release when Nasa reveals all the truths about space and the ocean (Confirmed by WILDCARD 100% )

[lavish echo]

2024

[hollow wolf]

nah

[lavish echo]

✅✅

[south shore]

Sie werden das Spiel und die dlc's verschieben

[icy orbit]

What do you mean?

[lavish echo]

Asa dlcs verschoben

[civic topaz]

Sucht einer noch einen Tribe Mate?

[icy orbit]

NVM

[iron sequoia]

Keep things English only please, rule 1.6
And keep to the channel topic.

[mint swan]

Probably vin disel called ark devs family instead of business partners so he got fired

[ionic notch]

lmao

[lavish echo]

[hollow wolf]

frrrr

[lavish echo]

✅

[whole sinew]

[lavish echo]

✅

[mint swan]

❌

[lavish echo]

✅

[mint swan]

❌

[lavish echo]

✅ ✅

[mint swan]

❌ ❌

[lavish echo]

✅ ✅

[mint swan]

❌ ❌

[lavish echo]

✅

[marble terrace]

bro are they never gonna give a release day

[icy orbit]

Nah

[pulsar umbra]

2026 / 2027

[marble terrace]

no na it cant be

[lavish echo]

ark 2 ende August kommt raus ✅

[marble terrace]

you sure

100 % ?

[marble terrace]

if it who'd be 2026 id give up on ark

[pulsar umbra]

Have you seen a trailer? have you seen any information? no because it is already reported in 2025 / 2027

[marble terrace]

what trailer

last one i seen was 2023 and now its 2024

[marble terrace]

what trailer

[marble terrace]

bro it was in the trailer it said 2023 and they deleyd it to late 2024 thats what they said

[plush cradle]

inb4 ark 2 is just ark with an updated primitive addon

[pine basin]

That’s his point, there’s no trailer, no new info, not a single piece of information for 1 year (I believe).

[marble terrace]

ye you right it aint never coming 😦

[pine basin]

It’s a possibility

[marble terrace]

fuck asc just they need to make ark 2

[pine basin]

TBF, at this point I couldn’t care less

Even if they get to release Ark 2, I’m not so confident it will be enjoyable

[marble terrace]

ye i saw the combat is to complicated idk something about blocking and parring like forhonner or something it sounds fucked

[pine basin]

ASA was supposed to be the bug free version of ASE. With improved QoL and all we ever dreamed about ASE

[pine basin]

Not that actually

Im not so confident about their ability to deliver a good product

They are kinda struggling to work with UE5

The new The Center map seems to have more mesh hole than the previous one. Old fixed bugs returned to ASA and are still persisting (like when are they fixing the cryopods UI?).

That said, I’m not so confident Ark 2 will release, or if released, not sure it will be good

[marble terrace]

ye its fucked idk how they planed to do asa and ark 2 in 2023

[pine basin]

Not even sure they can deliver everything they’ve been promising since 2020

[blissful perch]

Imo a big chunk of it boils down to how much is reused from ASE/asa

[pine basin]

That’s true, but are you confident they can deliver something in the foreseeable future, developing it from the ground up?

[blissful perch]

Something? Yes. All that was promised? Very unlikely

[pine basin]

Like I’ve said, they might deliver something, but I’m not confident it will be good

[blissful perch]

WC does tend to honor their claims eventually, but it’s often way behind schedule and not always in the form it was promised.

[pine basin]

Yeah, but I’m not so sure they honor everything

[blissful perch]

The only issue to me is that after ~8 years of this practice they can’t get their own deadlines reliably communicated to us. Since it’s common to change content during development and deliver something different than what was initially planned

[pine basin]

I still like ASA. But it’s been messy the last ~10 months

And it is a remake

[blissful perch]

I found out I disliked Asa just as much as I had disliked ASE near the end of my playtime

[pine basin]

My fear is a new product will be even harder to deliver in a stable manner

[blissful perch]

Not surprising or WC’s fault tho, since it’s expected to have a similar perspective to the two

The issue, as I’ve said for years, is that WC is spread way too thin pleasing way too many people

cough officials

[pine basin]

I mean, they’ve brought back old fixed issues to the remake. They need to have a really messy and undocumented process of development to do that.

It’s not really about the fundamentals, but their process of making things

[blissful perch]

I don’t pretend to know enough to have a perfect understanding of where bugs come from…but it’s kinda all on brand for this to happen

Deadline is set way too aggressively -> deadline is missed -> progress is rushed -> result is buggy

People then complain and whine for content -> polish is ignored in favor of a new deadline for new content -> repeat

[pine basin]

That’s why I fear for the state of the new product

[lavish echo]

✅

[pine basin]

They’ve missed their deadline by two years already, and they are struggling with their other product

Im not so confident right now

[blissful perch]

I mean it depends on your expectation. Are you expecting anything more than an early access tech demo?

[pine basin]

I will still be around to check, but until then, I’m not holding my breath

[pine basin]

At this point, yeah

If it doesn’t have at least 60% of what was promised all those years, I’m not really interested

Just a tech demo, isn’t enough for me

Maybe in 2022, but not today

[blissful perch]

It’ll boil down to what’s cut to make the release

If it’s got a list of features/mechanics and not much content, I might buy. If it’s content poor and mechanics poor I may also wait

[pine basin]

I believe they will cut as much as possible, hence why I’m not really expecting a good product

[pine basin]

Me too. I can wait for content

[blissful perch]

I mean if they did that, we’d have seen ark 2 already. Clearly something is hanging up development other than Asa

[pine basin]

But I believe they will take out important features they already announced

[blissful perch]

Idk. It again kinda depends on what conversations happened behind closed doors

[pine basin]

My opinion is they never really had a product

It was always just a concept

[blissful perch]

I think they had prototypes of some sort, but clearly nowhere near release ready

[pine basin]

They were focused on finishing ASE, and now are focused on finishing ASA

[blissful perch]

It’s easier than you think to prototype a mockup

[pine basin]

Exactly, and I don’t think they’ve advanced much so far

[blissful perch]

Imo it looked like they prototyped ark2, hit a design wall, had UE5 come out and ASE funding start to wither, then got intense pushback suggesting they should remake ASE

[pine basin]

I believe you, I’ve seen people creating mockups in UE5 pretty fast

[blissful perch]

Certainly not shocking if ark 2 dev efforts slowed

But again I think they have something for it

It’s just clearly not ready for early access. Which is fair given I think they’d be in trouble if they published a raw prototype

[pine basin]

Like I’ve said above, I don’t doubt it for a minute. My fear is the release candidate won’t be anything I’d like

I can play it waiting for more content

But I can’t if the mechanics are broken or lacking

[pine basin]

They’re already in trouble though 😂

[blissful perch]

The pyromane dlc was 🫠

Can’t argue that one…monetization for ark 2 does kinda spook me

[pine basin]

Yeah… this

[blissful perch]

It does make me laugh at ase DLC being called p2w when we now have actual p2w in Asa

[pine basin]

Oh they will put everything behind paywalls, that’s for sure

[blissful perch]

Who knows? It’s really a big fat question mark

[pine basin]

Right? People had no idea what p2w really is

Now they know

[blissful perch]

Club ark already makes me wonder if ark 2 is gonna be a MMO themed experience with some ark sprinkled in

[pine basin]

Remember when they’ve said they wanted to connect all their products together? I think club Ark is experimenting this

[blissful perch]

Club ark is frankly what WC should have done with ase ages ago

[pine basin]

Not saying Asa will connect to Ark 2 directly, but maybe some kind of connection will be in place

[blissful perch]

It’s really weird to not have any MMO component to a game that’s marketed as one

[pine basin]

True, it feels too little too late, always

[pine basin]

Atlas is a real mmo, Ark isn’t so much

[blissful perch]

Eh. I’d argue part of that is because WC didn’t really identify what they wanted ark official to be

WC made a survival sandbox game, then…opened official worlds because they thought it would help attract players. Then it caught on as a big MMO style cluster people could progress on together

But I can understand hesitation to lean into that MMO space rather than do (imo the other option) of remove officials. But if they’re gonna double down on officials anyway they may as well do it right and have meta content that’s built on top of “ark gameplay”

[pine basin]

Hence I was hopeful by the world events

Or the migrations

But will they deliver it day one? I doubt it. It’s a great endeavor.

[blissful perch]

Well some of this stuff is also kinda trash if there’s no content

A migration sounds cool, but if it’s one species over 2 feet of space, it’s not that special 😛

Same is true if the world events are just…rain like ase. So the mechanical depth would still need to be a bit deeper than surface level, but I agree that I’d rather see those tried than see ASE/asa again

Especially since ase/asa mutation stacking and meat farming would invalidate any complex creature behavior. Migrations would be pointless

[pine basin]

Yeah, but I was hopeful migrations would bring seasonal creatures to Ark 2

[pine basin]

I didn't say no content, but I would accept less content in exchange for a more robust product (features wise).

[lavish echo]

✅ ✅

[pine basin]

Some content of course is needed

[blissful perch]

Oh I should say that I read migrations as “across a map over game time” rather than changing creature distributions over irl seasons

Meaning for example herds of trikes would migrate from the south of the island to the north - not that trikes and pachyrhinos would swap in every September

[pine basin]

Yeah, unfortunately they never got to the point of telling us the details

If it's jut trikes going from the north to the south, it would be underwhelming

[blissful perch]

Dynamic spawns (ie having creatures actually move in herds across the map and players tracking them) would be amazing

But creatures have to actually matter to make that happen. If one dude on a rex or giga can clear the entire map, migrations are pointless

But if (and this is a huge if) ark 2 creatures are closer to MH creatures and require some effort to take down and have better loot as a result, I think all this complex creature behavior can result in an exceptional game

[pine basin]

Agreed, but having seasonal creatures would add to that, if not seasonal creatures, but seasonal colors relatad to migrations (something like: mating period and they would be more colorful or something like that). Just an idea I thought would make sense for the migrations and world events.

[pine basin]

Another of the features I fear they won't deliver as we wished for: the new combat system. A trike should be able to kill a rex, for example.

But in the current situation, I don't believe they work much on implementing the promissed features, or they will just deliver them half baked.

[blissful perch]

Well a trike can take a rex down with 2 seconds of changing stats around

The new combat system however is how that would actually happen - a hitzone based combat system with staggers, dodges, blocks, etc. I’m not even sure if it’ll apply to creatures tbh. But NONE of it matters if you can one tap everything like you can in ark 1

[stray elm]

Issue is, no matter what. If you make your build right, you can one tap (to almost one tapping) most enemies in these type of games.
Of course you're a glass cannon. But even FromSoftware games have this issues.

[lavish echo]

✅

[blissful perch]

Monster Hunter disagrees

But that’s also not what ark 1 one tapping is. I don’t believe you can click one move in dark souls and delete an entire map of enemies with no brain power - and nor do you need to because everything costs 10,000 meat and hide like in ark

But I can’t deny that part of the question lies in the age old debate of what power level players should have compared to the environment

[untold ingot]

It becomes way worse in a pvp situation. Because if the environment is too hard, the weapons are more likely to 1 tap players. And if it's not too hard, then it feels too easy

Although. Correct me if I am wrong, most souls like games currently are divided into difficulty regions. I feel ark wouldn't be that way. And it's a sufficiently hardcore game that players I don't feel would have too much issue if power creep wasn't as extreme

[blissful perch]

Most souls like games are linear, so that’s true to an extent

[untold ingot]

Even Conan is that way, and it's technically an open world game

[blissful perch]

However, you can pretty easily have a tough as nails environment and have PvP. You just need to ensure the environment isn’t oppressive

[untold ingot]

I have yet to see a game that succeeded in thaf

[blissful perch]

But let’s not beat around the bush - ark 1 PvE is so one dimensional it’s basically a button masher

[stray elm]

Monster Hunter is a bit different from traditional Souls-like.

[untold ingot]

It's combat system yes

[stray elm]

You can't actually level up stats individually in Monster Hunter.
Only level up your raw HR that increases specific stats you can't control.
Outside of that, it's very armor/weapon-based for your stats.
If ARK-2 is going more 'souls-like' combat. We'd want to more look towards FromSoftwares titles or other games that took direct inspiration from it like Conan. As that's what the steampage has stated ARK-2 being akin towards.

Within the ARK-2 steampage, is states it'll have "massive skill tree filled with new active abilities, perks, and passive benefits."

Which doesn't sound like something Monster Hunter has had before.
I've only played MH:World, so I don't fully know. But from what I understand, the MH franchise is a much linier experience with its RPG aspects.
You level up your HR and get stronger in everything so you can kill stronger monsters and get stronger equipment.
I believe stuff like skill trees would might ruin that gameplay loop.
So this personally leads me to compare ARK-2's systems more closer towards stuff like FromSoftware titles/Conan, since those are much more closer to what the storepage of ARK-2 sounds like compared to MH.

[blissful perch]

I’m not sure souls combat and souls rpg should be lumped together

[stray elm]

Maybe not.
But from what I've personally played. To have decent souls-like combat is to have less linier RPG elements.

[blissful perch]

MH isn’t also exactly a linear rpg. There are certain tiers of monster (so tier 1 generally has lower stat armor and gear and has less hp than tier 2, etc) but MH emphasizes synergy over stats

What’s important is that MH combat is very minimally about stats. Most of the combat is about how you engage the monster

To that end, ark 2 can certainly have a complex skill tree that does NOT translate into stats - they’d achieve a souls like or MH like combat system if they did that

[untold ingot]

Mh is very linear imo.

[stray elm]

Which is what makes it less souls-like. And in turn, not really a great game to compare towards ARK-2's gameplay. (that we know little of outside of the storepage)
FromSoftware titles and Conan (from what I remember) are very stat-based games.

And yeah, for an RPG. It's pretty linear.

At least personally, MH isn't a great example to comapre ARK-2 towards.

[blissful perch]

Idk. Souls like again strikes me as a reference to blocking, dodging, parrying, etc

Stuff that doesn’t have any real mention of the underlying stats

[untold ingot]

If ark2 comes out like monster hunter I will be disappointed

[stray elm]

Blocking is very stat-based in FromSoftware titles.

Same with dodging/rolling.
If you don't have the stamina, you can only roll a small amount of time before needing to recharge.
Same with blocking.
Every attack towards a shield consumes stamina, and if you run out of stamina while having your guard up. It'll stun you and leave you open for an attack.

[blissful perch]

Ark 2 coming out like MH would be the single greatest win for the ark series 😅. The complexity of creature ai in monster hunter alone would elevate tames to an entirely different level of complexity and gameplay depth

[blissful perch]

Ok so I think you’re confusing a combat mechanic (a dodge or block) and how combat mechanics intersect with the rpg/stat mechanics (ie limiting dodges and blocks to a stamina stat)

[stray elm]

I'm not confusing the two.
That's literally what makes a FromSoftwares combat system interesting. Is the micro-managing of stamina, which is a stat.
The fact almost every action outside of walking needs to be calculated is what people find fun about them.

[blissful perch]

Even monster hunter has stamina stats that can be used up while dodging and blocking. The difference isn’t in the mechanic - both games have dodging and blocking of attacks, and stuns/vulnerabilities if you spam or misuse them

[blissful perch]

I’m 99% sure the fun most players cite is the combat difficulty and razor thin margins for error

I’m not sure I’ve heard quite the same enthusiasm for the stat micromanagement. The flexibility of builds I’ve heard, but that’s the closest thing I could see

[stray elm]

The managing is part of the difficulty. 💀

[blissful perch]

Idk, I’ve heard a lot of people saying they ignore it entirely and just yeet into fights because “skill issue” if you need to stat minmax

[stray elm]

"Skill issue" is a term I don't take seriously anymore, as people will say that over you using mechanics the game was intended for.

[blissful perch]

When in combat, the management of stamina (regardless of the underlying rpg elements that determines what stamina is available) is pretty standard issue in any game with souls mechanics tho. Again, that’s not really much of an issue to implement in a variety of forms in ark 2

So I’m not super worried about somehow getting a damaged product because of the integration of such a system. Nor do I think souls rpg is a shoe-in because of the combat being the inspiration

[stray elm]

Most builds require stats and leveling up, as you have to have specific stats to equip specific equipment.
While not as extreme, in Conan Exiles it has somewhat the same thing.
Give some daggers to a strength build player, and they'll do minimal damage.
Give the same daggers to an agility build player, and it'll do a large amount of damage.

[blissful perch]

Differentiating builds via stats is as old as the rpg genre, so that’s not surprising. Modern games don’t need to use such a system though

[stray elm]

Not saying it's new. What I'm stating is those type of mechanics are usually tied to souls-like titles.

Also, what do you mean modern games don't need to use that type of system?

[blissful perch]

Modern games often provide players with a wealth of available skills and tools/mechanics that pair with people’s playstyles

Those skills, tools, and mechanics often have tradeoffs that create builds and classes just like stats used to do in the old days - the major difference is that it’s much easier in those games to swap em out if you dislike them

[stray elm]

I still see many games having extreme stats that lock you out of a playstyle if you don't build your character correctly.
And they're still very popular.

[blissful perch]

Yep. The old style isn’t dead or anything

[stray elm]

I don't really see them as an old vs new type of thing.
Just different approaches/styles of RPG.

[blissful perch]

The only reason I say modern is because it was pretty hard to implement the system I described when gaming was more basic and you didn’t have as many non-stat ways to differentiate playstyles

[stray elm]

That's fair.
I'd imagine it was inspired by some tabletop RPG's before technology for gaming was able to handle such systems.

[blissful perch]

Yep! DnD certainly did that

What’s unique and potentially interesting for ark 2 though is that unlike dark souls and many other RPGs with that style of combat, there’s the promise of such combat extending to tames and tame combat

[stray elm]

Thought DnD had stat-based weapons?

[blissful perch]

That’s what I’m saying (my bad if unclear). DnD needed to have stat weapons because there was no other way to differentiate classes

There was a clear sense of “it’s dumb for a barbarian to be able to shoot a bow as well as a ranger” but with the tools that game had there was no way to split those skills beyond making stat requirements

[stray elm]

Right.

[vale adder]

Can't believe they just canceled this

[stray elm]

No official statement has been stated.

[lavish echo]

✅

[spring sleet]

Hey so I’m trying to tame a giga but he’s not going down I’ve put like 60 taming arrows in him

[proud grove]

Lol maybe not the right channel for this. Regardless for a Giga you'll likely need hundreds of tranq arrows along with a good quality crossbow

[spring sleet]

O ok looks like I’m not getting a giga today thx

[proud grove]

I recommend using DodoDex as it gives really good info for these types of situations. Example: a level 50 giga is going to take 126 tranq arrows to knock with a primitive crossbow or 219 with a primitive bow. A level 100 giga increases this to 221 or 386, respectively

[spring sleet]

Dang ok thx I’ll take that into consideration

[lavish echo]

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[slow sandal]

why my ark on xbox rlly low res?

[drifting cove]

how will ark 2 compare to ase/asa in terms of hardware demands? same level as asa?

[slow sandal]

i thought ark 2 was ark asa

[lavish echo]

Nein ist es nicht

[lavish echo]

[worldly garden]

Probably same level as ASA tbh.

[worldly garden]

I always find it odd how people assume a remake is Ark 2 🤣 My first thought would be where is Vin Diesel?

[slow sandal]

GP why is my ark quality really low on xbox series s

like texture quality @worldly garden

[worldly garden]

Probably because Xbox Series S is a lower performing platform compared to others.

[slow sandal]

but the vidoes i have seen are alot more high quality? @worldly garden

[verbal wind]

i imagine theyre not running them on a series s?

[slow sandal]

but they are i have searched gameplay @verbal wind mine has lower graphics quality (shadows textures etc) very annoying because i bought it for the nice graphics

[worldly garden]

you might be better off asking in #general or #bobs-with-probs rather than the Ark 2 channel.

[lavish echo]

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[lavish echo]

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[ripe flicker]

I will sit here until the day I die, I will be waiting for Ark 2

[lavish echo]

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[rough vault]

Why would they make an ark 2 a stand-alone copy when ark ascended is already standalone and released less than a year ago

[pearl charm]

Fr it’ll be out in the 2150

[slate pelican]

Because they are two entirely different games lol?

[rough vault]

Still did it with ascended and evolved

[slate pelican]

Ark Ascended, is a remaster of Ark Evolved. It is the same game just repolished up with added/changed features.

[rough vault]

They’re screwing over their community a bit

[slate pelican]

Ark 2 is a Sequel that is nothing like Ark Evolved/Ascended

Ultimately they wanted to remaster Ark 1, use it as UE5 experience and leave it in a modern state or attempt to because Ark 2 will be so drastically different gameplay wise which is the part that bothers me greatly.

They didn't just update Ark 1 to UE5 because they needed money that Snail blew their funds so they were kinda forced to just remaster the game this way.

Ark 2 is a sequel, Ascended is a remaster of Ark 1.

I do not like the concepts of Ark 2, never have. Until we know a lot more I am not hyped and more so negative about it's future. But hopefully explains @rough vault

[acoustic vine]

I really hope Ark 2 does not have graphics like the animated series or skins from that would be an insta nope for me

[lavish echo]

✅

[blissful perch]

If you’re worried about future, I’d agree with that. Since actual pay to win is now in ark

[lavish echo]

Falsch

[blissful perch]

False? What’s the pyromane then?

[lavish echo]

Wir reden über ark 2

[blissful perch]

Gonna need to use English

Or is this just another ping with the ark 2 emote

[lavish echo]

Ark 2 hat noch keine gameplay trailer das kommt noch

[slate pelican]

I mean Ark was always P2W in the form of DLC's

[stray elm]

You never 'needed' to buy the DLC's to use creatures behind them back on ASE.
On ASA though, you flat out can't even tame or ride stuff like the Pyromane or Osaisaur if you don't own the DLC.

[slate pelican]

The only reason this fantastic creatures thing is a bad thing is once we would have gotten it for free on the map/s and now we gotta pay for it.

Once was there a time we got 3 tames a month

[stray elm]

Don't quote me on this. But if I recall right (unless they changed it) you can't even access the Bob's Tall Tales content in the Devkit to allow the usage of it on free modded maps.
Unlike on ASE where everything could be used on free modded maps without restrictions.

[stray elm]

It isn't just the Fantastic Creatures pack.
Bob's Tall Tales has the same issue with the Oasisaur.

[slate pelican]

I mean I personally think it always should have been that way for the dlc maps

I guess not tho... I don't know

My only issue with it is the Fantastic beast thing is a little on the nose. In the past it would have been free

But it is the trade off for free dlcs

They can't be expected to release updates for probably this rate 2 years maybe 3 for free

[stray elm]

The ASE DLC creatures where built and downloaded inside the base-game, and again, had no restrictions.
You didn't 'need' to own Aberration to use a Wyvern. Only for the ease of access to tame one from the original source.
Though, you could still either trade with other players for these creatures and breed them (if they could be breed at the time) or steal them when cryopods where released with Extinction. (cryopods have a mechanic that when you deployed a stolen one, it'll automatically claim that creature to be within your tribe. Allow you to rob other peoples tames.)

Now, if we compare this to ASA's system, where it'll literally pull an EA move where if you try to ride a Pyromane you just traded for. It'll pull up the Fantastic Beasts store.
Unlike in ASE's system, you can't ride paid creatures in anyway if you haven't paid for the DLC.
Aswell, you can't tame them. As their new system restricts you from even starting their taming process if you don't own the DLC.

These systems are drastically different from each other.
I'd argue ASE was more 'Pay for ease-of-access' while ASA is just flat out 'Pay to win'.

[slate pelican]

Yes I know. However from what we do know already of Ark 2 it sounds way too different to be a proper sequel. I've discussed this many times before.

[lavish echo]

✅

[stray elm]

And you're right, they can't be expected to release free content after free content.
But at this point, I'd honestly would rather rebuy each individual map again with the promise of new content being built into the game with them. Instead of stuff like Bob's Tall Tales.

Though, I kind of wonder how something like No Man's Sky can gain enough income to give a nearly decade old game constant yearly content updates, while having enough to make a whole new game.

[slate pelican]

That's because snail blew their funds

[stray elm]

Right, on the whole stocks shit.
Though, wasn't No Man's Sky one of the most refunded video games when it first came out?

'most refunded' might be dramatic. But I do remember it being a huge drama when the game first came out due to false marketing that a good portion of purchasers refunded the product.

[slate pelican]

Yes, it was a disaster at launch. One of the worst launches in gaming history for the hype it generated. It actually though wa sone of the very few games that pulled back from it's terirble launch and made a promise and dedication to give the players what they promised from the start

[stray elm]

Right.
Hard to talk about this subject without any actual data from either sides.

[slate pelican]

which they have achieved and more. It's not my kind of game I don't feel but for all that they added and keep adding the devs genuinely kept their promise and won back the love they lost. So,etimes I think other devs can pull similiar stuff and succeed cause No Mans Sky did and make the mistake

[stray elm]

Don't think HelloGames has ever released the refund statistics. (why would they?)

[slate pelican]

Hmm I don't know all I know is it was a internet disaster border line making main stream news lol

They hurt bad from it but what is certain is they won what they lost back and regained a very loyal community of loving fans. That studio has now set themselves up on such a high mantle because people's trust in them is very strong.

Unlike Ark where that is far from the case. But I personally blame Snail more than Wildcard.

[lavish echo]

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[blissful perch]

@fallow niche is it a violation of the rules to constantly reply to people with the same set of emotes? I’m more curious than anything else

[blissful perch]

Snail management moment, but also WC has to front a ton of money on their official server network. Unlike NMS…WC also probably had to invest in the animated series up front and an entirely new game (ark 2), both of which make $0 until they could be released. Whereas NMS could get funding after each update if more people bought their game. My hypothesis anyway

[lavish echo]

✅

[split dove]

The animated series was funded out of Jeremy and Jesses's own pockets, not the studio budget itself

[lavish echo]

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[split yacht]

ARK 2?!

[stray elm]

Everything I can see, outside of TAS.
TAS was purely funded by Jesse and Jeremy's personal accounts. Not Wildcards.

[lavish echo]

Ja ARK 2 ✅

[fleet dune]

We shall see if ARK 2 launches before 2035

[lavish echo]

Ende August 31 August ✅

[umbral vine]

quick question, for ark2 do we know if its gonna be similar to the original game(s) or more like either elden ring or skyrim?

[blissful perch]

It’ll be like ark 1 (sandbox survival with taming) but the combat might be closer to an elden ring than ark 1

[umbral vine]

okie

also is there an aberrevation like A:SA and A:SE

[cobalt musk]

ark2

[umbral vine]

👍

[chilly gazelle]

💀

[blissful perch]

Not yet. But likely!

[untold ingot]

At this point it's not even super likely that ark2 releases