ark-2

[pine basin]

Good thing is with UE5 those things are default because it seems to be like a real interation with the environment

[winged dome]

Crunch also added vegetation interaction too which I think was a new reveal. Swaying grasses, pushing leaves and branches and stuff, gonna be sweet and immersive

[stray elm]

No, they stated interactible foilage back in their first ASA crunch.

[winged dome]

Oh they did? Been a while 😂
Still, cool to see it's still on the docket

[azure sparrow]

Does anyone know if there will be host tether in asa/ark 2

[long nova]

Probably not in ark 2

But maybe in asa

[azure sparrow]

K

[pearl warren]

k

[winged dome]

😭 the great purgening

[split dove]

Not the fertile soil 😭

[fallow niche]

@sage lichen #bobs-with-probs for game help.

[potent hull]

i put bee in the soil to make is stronger lol

[tropic crag]

Which they need to put back in, I loved petting my plant X plants

[loud elk]

why no one is even playing the hame

game*

[split dove]

bc Ark 2 isn't out yet as it's been pushed back to end of/late 2024

kinda hard to play it if it isn't out yet

[ripe cedar]

why are steamcharts numbers noticeably high with official servers gone lol, I guess everyone is preparing for ASA

[split dove]

steamcharts only lists -5423 players that didn't play this month lol, and we basicly got 60k daily even before and after shutdown of official recently

[ripe cedar]

wait yeah im just stupid

its purely to do with the fact that it is currently the weekend

[half grove]

is ASA gon be a whole seperate game or is it going to be an update like csgo 2?? So am i going to have to buy it again?

[plush jacinth]

As far as i know , u buy ascended and u own also ark 2

[half grove]

aaawwww maaaaaan

[eternal wigeon]

No??? Lol

That was an old bundle deal for ark2 + Ascended

But they didn't offer it

[plush jacinth]

So , it was just a scam notice

[eternal wigeon]

It's 40$ separate game

[half grove]

oh so what is it now? Do you still have to pay to get ASA?

[eternal wigeon]

Yep

[half grove]

dam

guess im sticking to ASE for now

[plush jacinth]

Well yet , not bad as ark 2 will be much far

So kinda fair ..

[odd holly]

honestly, if asa is anything like what the devs said so far, its well worth the $40 as it includes mods, all dlc maps and the base game

on top of the upgrades and such

[half grove]

wait dlcs arent free??

for ASE?

[odd holly]

the paid maps isnt free but the community maps is free for ase if thats what you mean but I was talking about $40 for asa including base game, maps dlc, new creatures and mods being a very good deal

[split dove]

only seperate thing you would pay for regarding ASA is the upcomming exclusive New DLC for ASA

[ripe cedar]

DLC’s multiple

[pine basin]

From last CC, it’s a dlc in singular.

“This will include new story content for the game, its own gameplay/QOL changes, new DLC, seasonal events, and more (some things we’re not quite ready to talk about yet!)”

“New dlc” not “new dlcs”

At least not official yet

It’s just leaked internal talks in Snail Games so far

[lime forge]

Is dlcs actually a thing?

Downloadable contents

[ripe cedar]

if it was one it would be a new DLC not new DLC

[wet lagoon]

So can I still play on single player until ark SA is out?

[split dove]

eventually there's probably gonna be another one seeing as the goal is to have ASA and Ark 2 be kept updated alongside eachother

[lime forge]

Yeah

[pine agate]

can probably download your old world into the new ark as well

[potent hull]

you no FluidNinja pric for it is 149.99 wild card had to pay for that lot of money for it

[stray elm]

That's kind of pocket-change for a studio like Wildcard.

[potent hull]

yes it is but it go to show you that it willbe good for asa

FluidNinja is op in fire water snow and we my see snow avry were when winter wonder land event coms out

and more werther effect for maps

[mint swan]

if ark 2 has the graphics literally from real life i believe that some computer can't support such detailed graphics, at least they put graphic options to optimize.

[stray elm]

Graphics in real life in a....really hard thing to do, to be fair.
Also, we kind of saw what ARK-2 will roughly look like with the two in-engine trailers.

[potent hull]

asa

[mint swan]

Yes, graphics of the trailer looks very realistic

That's what I'm referring to

[stray elm]

They look good, but not realistic.
Still has a unique artstyle to them.

[mint swan]

yeah

[worthy lance]

Bro this game will launch in 6023

[potent hull]

FluidNinja going to be in ASA to and ark 2 sow

[formal robin]

WHAT IS A FLUID NINJA

[potent hull]

look it up and see

[formal robin]

aint it in unreal enginge 5 tho

[potent hull]

no

[stray elm]

It's a marketplace system.

[potent hull]

pric tag for it is 149.99 $

[pine basin]

If it was more than one it would new dlcs 😂

But again, they themselves only confirmed one so far

I believe there will be more, but they didn’t announce yet

[pine basin]

They don’t actually. They look far better than ASE, but there other games that look way better than what we saw on that 2020 trailer.

[tropic forge]

thats actually my hope, ASA graphics to suck so i dont fall in temptation to buy it cause im a sucker for graphics and they already showing nothing as change

[pine basin]

The graphics won’t suck, I guess. But it’s not also “very reallistic”. Ark is a bit cartoonish.

I mean Vin Diesel on the trailer could look a bit better. But it was an old trailer. But I’m having a hard time believing ASA will release in a polished state.

But to be clear, it will look way better than ASE, that’s for sure

[tropic forge]

not only gonna be a mess for more than a month they already scratch gameplay, no saperation of pvp from pve and dint even touch about big problems that was on ase so i take it nothing will be change regrard to those problems either

[nocturne cape]

hard ini and it looks the same

[tropic forge]

it would be funny as hell they putting ini. again for ppl to mess around whit it

[desert swallow]

lack of an ini won't do anything to stop people from changing their rendering. Someone will write a program to do it.

[rancid harness]

And since blueprint will be available, it'll be very simple to do so

[mellow wadi]

Official Ark 3 Release Date:
2055: November 13th

[calm meteor]

How long do you think we have to wait for gameplay?

I would really like to see what I'm about to buy

[long burrow]

@mellow wadi U sure? I heard it was delayed to 2062

[tropic crag]

I love it when people use the same joke on repeat, like it's honestly so funny lol omg lmao!!!!11!!!

[mellow wadi]

prolly some new news I haven’t heard of

[spare void]

Day 36 of waiting for Ark 2

[lime forge]

Damn man. I’ve been waiting for almost 4 years

[fast matrix]

🗿

[proven temple]

Alright, here’s a modding question for ASA. The devs keep saying how modding is going to be fantastic.

Does anyone how whether they fixed the system where you’d have to reload every single mod when switching maps etc? When a server has quite a few mods, it takes so long to load, and must be done repeatedly for every transfer

[crude cloud]

I hope they will block the usage of ini changes in ASA, that would be the biggest addition to the game!

[earnest kettle]

REAL

[weak grove]

I cant wait for ark 2 to drop

im bying the new xbox just for it

[desert swallow]

the new xbox in 2026?

[pine basin]

Apparently the new Xbox is supposed to come in 2028

At least the new generation

[weak grove]

the x

[desert swallow]

good as estimate as any for ark 2 release date

[desert swallow]

"You must be new around here".jpg

[tribal chasm]

I actually wonder what games would be like in 30 years from now. Imagine Ark like games if it wasn't restricted so much by hardware limitations...
giant maps, 1000's of players per server

[desert swallow]

almost like real life

[earnest kettle]

And cheater..... a heck load of cheaters

I know that it WOULD be cool but i like small comfortable space without thousands of players, and imagine the pillar spam

[desert swallow]

by then games should be all server based and your device should only be receiving a render of the game. Cheating should then be almost non existent.

they've already started experimenting with this.

not wildcard but games industry

[prisma acorn]

dont most of those games fail because they rely on a internet connection being really good and not everyone has a connection thats under 20 ping

[blissful perch]

Read “experimenting”

[desert swallow]

Also in 30 years you can expect internet connections to be that much better. 30 years ago we were running on what? 14.4K maybe had 56k at that time?

[primal ridge]

lol 2400 😁

[mortal igloo]

like that new internet thing some guys are working on, i forget the name exactly was teranet or something

[desert swallow]

those were the days, just googled it. 14.4k modem came out 1991

AI for internet. We can predict what your next couple of packets will be!

[keen drum]

Games like ark need an offline mod tho

[desert swallow]

Not necessarily. Internet is almost everywhere today, it will certainly be everywhere in 30 years.

You can play single player, server renders, feeds to your screen

30 years ago if I had said the same thing about movies for example, not needing that VHS and have it be on demand, it would seem like just as much of a pipe dream.

[keen drum]

I feel like asa will end up being better than ark 2

[desert swallow]

possible. Ark 2 will be a different game that will appeal to different people.

[keen drum]

The main problem i see happening is them changing the formula so much original ark players will feel alienated and more drawn to asa, i guess it depends on what they change and how much they change

[desert swallow]

yep. I don't like it either. But it's a risk they are taking and could work out for them.

in gaming industry. Big risk = big rewards or death of studio.

[south lance]

theyll need more than current daily/weekly/monthly players to buy the game anyways

their success depends on either people who quit ase ages ago or new people

actually idk

somehow ase active population kept increasing over time

maybe the nature of their game design is just really good at long term

so people just keep coming in over multiple years for whatever reason

[true fox]

29 days to go!

[south lance]

ya

steamcharts just doesnt make sense for me

there mustve been an insane amount of turnover compared to the average person i find in this discord who has like 2-5k hours

or honestly anywhere outside yt comments

steady 30-60k for the entirety of its existence somehow

besides the time after the game went for free

idk where the 800 million in sales came from

or the 1.3 billion

[slow coyote]

What will happen to ASE after ASA will be released?

[south lance]

official goes down, devs stop updating it, but anything else remains the same

[undone flume]

No official servers but customs

[south lance]

so you keep your saves, unofficials continue running unless they migrate to asa

oh and no more events

but those are kinda updates

[slow coyote]

Oh man, It'll be hard for me to buy the ascended

Guess I'll just stick to unofficial then

[south lance]

its gonna be 40 for a few months or weeks

all current dlc included

[slow coyote]

Yeah but 40$ is like 2.25k here

And my monthly allowance is just 500

[south lance]

idk what that means in daily/monthly/yearly income

ah

[slow coyote]

Yeah

[keen drum]

It would only take you a couple months but i imagine you have better things to spend it on

[south lance]

itll be 45 later if that helps

so 5 months saving should work but they are gonna release new dlc

[keen drum]

They're gonna up the price?

[slow coyote]

Yeah I still have expenses

[south lance]

after some time ya

40->45

40 is probably first month

[keen drum]

I was planning on buying it later on but i gotta save my pounds lol

[slow coyote]

So will they make dlcs another purchase?

[south lance]

yeah

probably 10-20 dollars, idk tho

[vital jetty]

If you're talking about the regular DLCs, you get all of the made DLCs from ASE in ASA for that initial cost of $40. The only DLC(s) that will cost money are brand new ones.

[rancid harness]

What's your steam? I'll gift it to you when it comes out lol

[pine basin]

On Steam alone the game sold 25 million copies. Let’s say they sold for 30 dollars on average that would be 750mi usd.

Also Microsoft pays millions monthly to keep ase in their library

Also 👆this is concerning because ASE will probably be taken out of the service and ASA might not take its place while in EA

[rancid harness]

You think I won't? ;P

Also hey, fellow michigander!

[paper wasp]

How did billion turn into million? 🤔

[glacial phoenix]

How did it sell 25 billion copied

[tribal geyser]

There are only 8 billion people on earth 😂

Even if everyone bought a copy on their 2nd account it woudn't still be 25 billion

[glacial phoenix]

I thought there was 9 billion

[prisma acorn]

I'm pretty excited to get into ASA and play with the new changes like no MS leveling

[tribal geyser]

No💀

[prisma acorn]

8,045,311,447 People

give or take 5000 a day

[tribal geyser]

Round that up to 8 billion

[keen drum]

They only sold 35mil copies

[pine basin]

Typo 👍

[pine basin]

It was a typo, but I don’t see the issue. I have myself 5 copies of Ark. 4 on Steam and 1 on epic

[tropic forge]

ho damn cant even quote a line whitout being deleted

[south lance]

ye but where are the players

[frank panther]

there were lots of issues that killed the game for me

I have 100 days or something like that, but after getting wiped on official by a duping, meshing mega tribe it pretty much killed it for me.

mega tribes, meshing and duping were the biggest things for most people i feel like

[pine basin]

What do you mean? Ark is eight years old and still peaks at 50-60k players everyday

Most aaa can’t sustain those numbers

[pine basin]

Yeah, I get you. But official pvp servers players were just a fraction of the player base

As we can see, even after the official servers shutdown, the concurrent players numbers is pretty much the same

[frank panther]

Yea most play unofficial now

[winged dome]

Especially since Officials are shut down 🤭

[pine basin]

I think he meant there are also people running their local hosts too

[south lance]

i know, im saying that those 25 million sales gotta have some really high amount of turnover

or people are playing in big chunks and take huge breaks

and the issue is that idk how either works when so many people have so many hours unless discord and some other places are EXTREMELY biased

[pine basin]

I don’t know for sure because I don’t have the data. But based on the way my friends and I play the game, I’d say people take huge breaks

[pine basin]

Discord and reddit are extremely biased that’s for sure

We have 200k people here, that’s less than 1% of the copies sold

Someone needs to like a lot a game to play it for eight years straight

[prisma acorn]

I have 5k hours over 8 years, take 3 month breaks and play for a month or so

[blissful perch]

Turnover is also high. Dunno if that’s abnormal for the industry tho, since tons of people buy stuff and rarely play

There’s stats devs can get (unsure if public) that show the average playtime. My guess is that it’s low

[tropic forge]

pvp?

[blissful perch]

Hard to say tbh. The secret is that 5k hours usually means they spent tons of it breeding 😭

[prisma acorn]

i did about 2k pvp when i started but as i played less and less i swapped to pve

[tropic forge]

that explains a lot about taking time off, in pve that normally resumes to log in reset timers and log off to whatever else to do

[tropic forge]

i dont know if theres a way to see how many days spend on a game but i got 3450H on steam, thats almost to a year that i play on pc and i can said for sure i dint play much not compare to what i play on ps4 even more whiteout cryos so no, 5k hours you cant tell if that person spend a ton looking at babies while they grow

there's those that dont leave base and there's others that are busy all the time doing everything

[south lance]

honestly id be fine counting afk to some extent

unless youre gaming elsewhere

if it does end up being necessary

tho i seriously doubt afk is gonna be that much of a boost in itself

maybe like, the 20-30 minutes you might wait on somrthing to happen and you chill on your phone

but honestly grind and breeding can take up way more than half or 2/3rds of your total time imo

[verbal wind]

i know a good portion of my 9k hours was spent sitting and checking back every half hour for eggs that had been laid

[prisma acorn]

i remember one day i spend 8 hours online taming a 150 theri with berries

back when it was first released

i was playing solo and i didnt know what i was getting myself into

[tropic forge]

hell no i use the white berries (cant remember the name) and tame therries fast but down size they dint get a lvl 🤣

[verbal wind]

vanilla rates were so damn bad

[tropic forge]

dont think they will change them, taming or raising

[brittle parrot]

That’s what asa it’s gonna be like on official

[tropic forge]

still havent forgive wc for my efforts to tame a pair of 150 thusos to raise them in 4 days and when i had them they change them for longer

[brittle parrot]

Stimberries

[tropic forge]

thats right

[verbal wind]

eh, that's why i play unofficial now

where you can set the rates to be less life devouring

[tropic forge]

true but cant compare to the official cluster, way much servers and lot more ppl

plus official should last at least 3 to 4 years that is not guarantee on unofficials

[hollow canopy]

Where ark 2

[tropic crag]

Unofficial can't compare to official, and yet there's more players recently (after official was shut down) than before... something doesn't check out 🤔

[hollow canopy]

What is ark

Is this right server?

[untold ingot]

More people play unofficial than official?

That's been known

[tropic crag]

No, there's more players playing the game (i.e. unofficial) since official shut down than there were when official were up

[untold ingot]

Um, where are you getting that. Steam charts shows a pretty steady decrease in player count over the last 3 months

Peak is 61k average is 36k, both numbers are low for ark

[stray elm]

Nekatus made a tweet recently how the closing of official servers barely dented ARK's steam charts.

[untold ingot]

Yeah, it really didnt

But there has been a long term leakage of the player count

[stray elm]

Even Wildcard has stated official is the minority.
It's mostly unofficial/SP.

Which while even be more apparent on ASA since it'll have console modding support.

[untold ingot]

I wonder if it's the same on console? Although I bet those took a bit more of a hit

[tropic forge]

this conversation again 🤣 funny that took 8 years for wc to say official were the minority cause when was in ea and even after "official" launch no one talk about that

[untold ingot]

Official was the majority for a time lol

[tropic crag]

A very short time, sure

[tropic forge]

like unofficial were a majority for a time, after all who stays playing ark for 8 stray years???

the real question should be, how much was the peak of ppl playing officials vs unofficial

[tropic crag]

I fail to see how player retention has any bearing on player count in this regard when it's purely a numbers show

[untold ingot]

Official died and it didn't make a dent...

[untold ingot]

Huh?

I wasn't talking player retention, I was talking player count

[tropic forge]

well how many were on gen 2 launch and how many were last month?

[tropic crag]

I wasn't replying to you, then

[untold ingot]

The highest ever player count was last year when they made it free

But all time peaks doesn't really make much difference to overall numbers

[winged mulch]

i think i need new cpu for ark 2 💀 because i have shitty i5 9600k

[pine basin]

My guess is: because of no new content for a long time.

We’ve always seen the numbers go up when new content was released (new maps, new creatures or events), but after a while the numbers would go down.

Like you said the end of officials made no difference to the player count, instead the numbers are decreasing consistently over time

[minor pagoda]

I need new everything 😂

[winged mulch]

😄

[cyan elk]

so ark survival ascended is basically ark 2 😮

and ark 2 shall be ark survival evolved 3?

[wild pilot]

Well, no

Ark 2 is going to be ark 2, ark ASA is going to be a remake

Its a different game due to its huge contents, but its more like a gigantic update

[keen drum]

I mean asa will likely be better than ark 2

[winged mulch]

is ark asa same game but newer graphics?

[chrome lodge]

They are two different types of games

[open quarry]

Pretty much but minor changes to maps and stuff

[winged mulch]

yea

i want play abberation with new graphics

best map ever

[tropic crag]

It is very much the same game, but with massive improvements

[calm meteor]

Would anyone else like it if they released ASA on the last weekend and not on the last day of October?

[tropic crag]

They may, who knows

Would be nice for sure

[leaden birch]

It definitely affected consoles and game pass where unofficial is not the norm due to no mods. Also it’s impossible to see the effect of removing official so soon as everyone’s simply waiting till ASA. Players who normally wouldn’t touch unofficial because “it doesn’t matter” don’t mind messing around because regardless of official or not it’s all short term with ASA coming. It’s no different then the end of EA. Hell in general official has been hurting hard since the ARK 2 announcements as everyone knows the end was coming. ASA will likely restart the cycle with official again becoming the main event until power creep and accumulation again makes it all but impossible start without being miles behind because of breeding, bossing, ect. I personally think ASA will have MTX tho and that will mean wildcard caters to official far far more where their truly die hard loony fans are and where the money will be. Steam charts are not a end all be all, destiny 2 is a great example with a larger player base off steam then on it.

[untold ingot]

I mean possibly yeah. But it is interesting that not even the periodicity of the player count changed with official ending. Perhaps wc have some more relevant stats than just the steam charts. If it is just people playing unofficial while waiting for Asa to launch, then there should be a pretty significant drop on player count in a couple weeks. But I doubt that'll happen. Only thing it suggests to me is that steam in particular is hugely an unofficial community. As far as console I can't speak to that at all, because those numbers aren't public at all

As far as in game micro transactions, I really truly doubt they'll do that in Asa. It'll tick off a lot of their fan base if they do. If they were going to go that way, they would have just done it in ase and skipped Asa anyway. That might have given them the funding for ark2

[drowsy prawn]

Bonjour pourquoi il n’y a plus de serveur officiel sur Ark je suis sur ps4

[leaden birch]

Wildcard made promises about no MTX, it was likely a contract stipulation when they sold to snail games. Snail games is definitely not a studio that out of the kindness of their heart doesn’t do MTX. It will tick people off but it was also a very different time when wildcard made that promise. ASA is a new title and unlikely to be cover by that. Today I think ARK may be the only multiplayer focused game in the top 50 of steam without MTX. Chances are that will not remain the case, it’s simply to lucrative. Ark Breeds the type of obsessed fan MTX thrives on

[wary trail]

All i know is for Ark2, for the love of god for admin side of things, please add a spectator FIRST PERSON view!

and asa

[untold ingot]

I really hope not. If they have mtx I won't get Asa.

[mild raft]

anyone got a link to ark 2 discord?

[leaden birch]

I hope so to, but am a realist. Honestly if done right it wouldn’t be awful. They can sell alternate wall textures, alt crafting station looks, stuff like that like rust. So long as the MTX is complete new additions to the game and not taking away from the game like making current skins MTX or all future skins mtx I would be okay with it.

[untold ingot]

See. I see that as a definite loss, as it would limit the dev kit

[fallow niche]

This is the only official discord for the entirety of Wildcard's Ark.

[dark sequoia]

What’s MTX stand for sorry?

[elfin pumice]

Officiel Il a été désactivé pour ark ascended

[fierce stirrup]

microtransactions for most games

[dark sequoia]

Ah ok

Thx

[gloomy prawn]

Today

[pine basin]

Why would it limit the dev kit?

I mean, I know games that have open dev kits and allow paid and free add-ons and they can coexist peacefully

I don't like MTX, but I'm no purist

If they can balance between monetizing their product and P2W, I will be fine with it

[tropic crag]

There needs to be 0 P2W, let's get that straight. No balancing anything in that regard, 0, zip, zilch, none

[fierce stirrup]

dumb question, will asa for xbox be able to be played on pc like ase was?

[split dove]

yes, but only on xbox series x/s (next gen consoles)

[fierce stirrup]

noice, my overpriced xbox will have use

[tropic crag]

It'll be available on Win10 aka PC I'm pretty sure

[fierce stirrup]

i mean theough the xbox app on pc. Its how i played ASE.

[tropic crag]

Yeah, Win10 is more or less the moniker for the Xbox app, for some reason or another

Don't know why they don't just call it Windows Store version or Xbox PC or something simple, but yeah

[fierce stirrup]

ah well even better! thanks for the info!

[pine basin]

Balance in a way there's no P2W. Meaning they can sell cosmetics or stuff that won't affect the gameplay or the mechanics.

Fortnite does it nicely

But just a little heads up, most unnos are pay to win

they have whitelists, they sell capped BPs, they sell creatures (sometimes capped) etc

... And people still play on those servers and Unnos are more popular than the no P2W officials

[tropic forge]

me 🤯 when i see someone trying to justify p2w

[astral basin]

the improvements ASE should've had on release 😛

[blissful perch]

The servers have what people want, and the option to pay provides content and longevity to the server/community. It’s a classic case of “what can you offer for money” made harder by people being able to mod skins and the like such that they’re free and thus not available as a paid reward

[astral basin]

at least I am happy that they continue the game, instead of making a good game but full of bugs and issues and then leave it like that forever

[blissful perch]

I don’t envy the monetization challenges people have to face

[tribal chasm]

the RMT scene is absurd in any game, I don't get how people can have such high double standards

especially for non-game affecting MTX, purely cosmetic

[pine basin]

You mean me? I never justified nor said I like it. I’m just saying this how it works for unnofficials, like it or not 👍

[pine basin]

Exactly

And like it or not, a portion of the game base are willing to pay for things

[prisma acorn]

I mean rmt was a big thing for official too lol its just advertised on the server for unofficial

[pine basin]

People just turn a blind to it

But it is there for a while

Just not officially

[open swift]

When ark 2 releasing?

[winged dome]

Current release window is end of 2024

[open swift]

Or when is ark survival ascended releasing?

[winged dome]

ASA should be towards the end of this month, no exact date yet

[pine basin]

This month, end of this month

[open swift]

So it’s like a Halloween special?

[pine basin]

Kinda, but no Halloween event for the game

What would be epic IMO 👹

[grim kestrel]

We don't know if they plan on doing halloween event or not for the launch

[frank panther]

they already said no halloween event

[pine basin]

We do, they've already said the first event will be the winter wonderland

Q: Events? Extra Life? ASA Content!

Yes, we’ll still be doing these. The first ASA event will be Extra Life, bonus rates ‘n all dat jazz, and then we’ll be doing our first content-related event in December with the launch of Winter Wonderland!

And just as mentioned above, ASA has its own content roadmap, but it’s too soon to talk about that ;).

[grim kestrel]

Ah, the FAQ is where I started skim reading, missed that part. I was only reading detailed the above part.

[potent hull]

add ice cream to ark lol

[gloomy prawn]

Damn no crazy a$$ turkeys first?

[potent hull]

lol

[tropic forge]

nope, guess they wanna stress officials whit extra life to see how the game and official servers will handle

[zealous echo]

@everyone

[south lance]

@darkthetv#0000

well then

[hardy basin]

this game will never come out change my mind

we will literally get GTA 6 before we get ARK 2 and that makes me sad because im such a huge fan of this game

[rancid harness]

Can't be a fan of something that doesn't exist

[restive cargo]

i thought the remastered was meant to be coming out in October 2023, has that changed?

[calm meteor]

ASA End of October Ark2 end 2024

[restive cargo]

thanks

[junior wing]

AsA will need a lot of fixing since new engien ... so probably ark2 will be push a bit 😄

[last bluff]

I feel asa is something to stall for ark 2 and they need a lot more time

It’s like GTA 6

[brave venture]

Fr

[ocean mason]

[rancid harness]

This is legitimately the case. They are making ASA because they are not familiar enough with UE5 and the tools they need to use to make Ark 2.

[tropic crag]

If people actually, you know, read the CCs, they'd know this

[rancid harness]

You think most people care enough about ark to read every word of every cc?

Nah bröther

[split dove]

you think ark players can read words that aren't in a high colored font? 🤔

[tropic crag]

Not even every word, just at the very least ctrl f the word they're looking for on the page or something. Literally anything other than not ever reading it like we know most Ark players don't... I hope it's not because they just don't know how to read, but I'm almost out of hope for these guys

[rancid harness]

Hehehehehehheh

[grim kestrel]

Another member of new to discord and just jumps to the comments, read a little first particularly in #announcements.

Yes Wildcard has stated part of ASA is to help fund Ark 2 that old news. It is also to provide two experiences that will be supported at the same time so people who want a more primitive new generation experience can carry over to Ark 2. People who have made a stand and have a NEED to use tek can keep an original Ark experience in ASA.

[true fox]

27 days to go!

[calm meteor]

I hope they won't give us ASA until the last day of October

The last weekend would be nice

[tropic forge]

thuesday sounds a good day to release a game

[wet cargo]

thursday?

[tropic forge]

or mondays

[tropic crag]

You heard em, thuesdays or mwondays

Honestly, I would like them to be able to have more time to develop, but then they'd likely go under via the Nitrado loan or something Snail related and I understand why they're waiting until the end of the month, it gives them the most time to rush and fix what they can

[pine basin]

Apparently, based on the last CC, they don’t have the money to keep it going that way

[tropic crag]

Nothing I read described anything of the sort, but maybe I just forgot or missed it, been a hell of a week

[pine basin]

Here:

“Another factor is for business reasons. Developing a next-generation sequel while no longer releasing paid expansion packs has proven difficult for our Studio’s long-term survival, so we need to continue generating revenue while we develop ARK 2.”

They are having financial difficulties

[rancid harness]

Wildcard out here tryna survive the real Ark: game development

[south lance]

its kinda expected tho

[rancid harness]

Yes

[tropic crag]

Ah, ok, thanks for that

[split dove]

i'm just gonna put the full segment here before people ask some other stuff about it

There are various reasons we’ve decided to take this approach. One is to refine the development team’s skills on UE5 and how far it can be pushed for next-generation titles (ARK 2).. Another factor is for business reasons. Developing a next-generation sequel while no longer releasing paid expansion packs has proven difficult for our Studio’s long-term survival, so we need to continue generating revenue while we develop ARK 2. And finally, the ultimate reason: whereas ARK2 is being designed as a Souls-like adventure, we want to provide the community with an evergreen classic-ARK experience, one that can continue to grow over time on a cleaned-up code base, leveraging new technological advancements not only in the industry but also what we’ve been working on with the ARK Franchise as a creative whole.

[last bluff]

Can’t read nothing unless it’s a raid list and cords

[last bluff]

Not that serious and I couldn’t care less

Learn to bathe first

[grim kestrel]

Is that supposed to be a jab? 😂

Must care to some extent since you took the time to reply to the post.

[true fox]

31st would work for me, but releasing on Halloween may not make good business sense

For those release day sales numbers

Disney trip the last week in October

Not a problem tho. We will have release day problems like any game launch. Plus all the servers will be way over cap for a long time

[nocturne isle]

I feel like the most sense would be the 26 or 27 but it is wildcard and though they have said October for sure I wouldn’t be surprised by October 2024 lol

[tropic crag]

Ah, so it's only the official PvP people who can't read, checks out

[prisma acorn]

O-official? W-what's that?

[tropic crag]

They can't monetarily do that, it's coming this month whether we like it or not

[half portal]

I can only hope that unoffi will be available on day1 or so cause i would really want to enjoy the game with my friends and not wait for the queue

[tropic crag]

Same here, otherwise I'll just not play until they do

[true fox]

Those are probably logical choices. I suppose it depends on when everything is ready

[tropic crag]

(Offer unofficial, that is)

[prisma acorn]

They said modding would be available day one so I assume it will be

[true fox]

I can’t see why it wouldn’t be. They need functional server code to bring up official servers

[tropic crag]

That would make sense

[split dove]

must've been a limited time server mode

[calm meteor]

What does soulslike mean? I tried to search it online, but english is not my first langue and the translator for whole pages is really bad. So can anyone here give me a simple explanation what that means?

[tropic crag]

Like Dark Souls, as in skill based combat instead of like current Ark combat (where you just click and it does the one attack you have)

In Dark Souls and similar games, there's heavy attacks, light attacks, special attacks, parrying, dodging, weapon specific attacks, etc etc

[split dove]

i mean combat that makes you fall asleep is kinda skill based, just stay awake with tape on your eyelids

[tropic crag]

Ark 1 don't fall asleep fighting a skeletal bronto challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)

[split dove]

## top 5 ark combat tips pvp youtubers don't want you to know

[calm meteor]

Okay now i get it. So i think i will try ark2 by friends before i decide to buy it for myself when it release😅

[tropic crag]

I mean, there'll certainly be gameplay before it comes out, and it isn't due for a whole year, so you got some time 😅

ASA on the other hand is coming soon, but that will have the standard Ark gameplay we all know with some improvements

[split dove]

i mean these last 6 months have flown by rather fast

[calm meteor]

ASA is a game i really like to buy. It is not often that i'm interested in a new game. I normally play the old games. With ASE i tried the first time a survival game

[tropic crag]

Well that's good, ASA should be a good upgrade for you to enjoy during the wait until Ark 2, then

[split dove]

holdover until salvation

[pine basin]

Number one: use autoclick

[south lance]

i just wanna see some of the shit the modders cook up

mod maps have infinite potential rn fr

idr if the modding experience is significantly better now or not tho

[split dove]

Number Two: use something with large aoe

[pine basin]

Now your ark is 90% automated

[radiant hound]

when the hell does this game come out again?

[stray elm]

End of 2024

[bold juniper]

Number three the best counter to an enemy Stego raiding your base is your own Stego with high stamina

[potent hull]

i think asa will com out on 27

[tribal chasm]

I'm excited for no cryopods just because it means people won't have infinite dinos to attack/defend again. Hopefully means people will be less kamikaze and have to make correct decisions. Combined with no free 60 levels from being in a cryopod - should be pretty balanced

[amber tusk]

Is it seriously cryo removal for good, or a rework?

[winged dome]

Just no Cryos at first, likely to be re-added when Extinction drops for ASA, unless the Devs decide to add them back in sooner

[tropic forge]

dollie — 09/30/2023 3:52 AM
regarding movespeed/cryos etc etc

ig just keep in mind, we are trying stuff, we'll be monitoring, and we expect to make adjustments, lots all over is changing a lil

try not to be too dramatic (i get it but it's gonna be okay). remember it's early access and we'll be listening to the community and adjusting as we assess all of the moving parts and feedback

[pine basin]

Hopefully it’s gone for good and they will find another way to store the Dinos without cryos 😂

Pvp will be so much better with a limited number of dinos

Also for pve

[calm meteor]

I think it would be nice if there would be more structures to build a nice barn for every dino. I find it very difficult for the real big ones.

[opal hill]

Btw ark 2 Will never cm out it is a scam lol

[untold ingot]

It's only00 a scam if they charge for it and dont release it. It's a myth of they don't charge and don't release, it's fake if the don't charge and release it, and it's the real deal if they charge and release it

[opaque anchor]

If ASA doesn't do well, Ark 2 is unlikely

[prisma acorn]

they said they reworked structures and from the few renders we've seen it looks as though walls are taller so bigger structures might be easier to build now

but we wont really know till it comes out lol

[blissful perch]

Bro please don’t expose me 😂

[urban tiger]

better yet if acension was free to download it later become free to download would be nice

[vital jetty]

I'm hoping it goes the other way and they decide no cryos is better for the game and do away with them lmao

[urban tiger]

all they need is vin desiel to live stream him playing himself in ark 2 XD joking but i dont think ill like ark 2 bc it isnt going to be ark bc it story driven

[vital jetty]

For the Single Player. I doubt it will be story driven on Servers, and it it is, it's not like you have to follow it.

[tropic forge]

freeloaders gotta be fed sometime i guess

[vital jetty]

Never.

[urban tiger]

yeah assumeing if it sell enough for them to raise money for ark 2 and become free to download later would help population in ark acension XD

[vital jetty]

Free download = cheaters making countless alts to cheat on. It's exactly what happened to Evolved. There were cheaters, but it wasn't as bad. the moment they allowed for free copies of the game people all of a sudden were doing the most blatant spinning I've ever seen, and the moment that account was banned, mysteriously another person would join and immediately start spinning again.

[tropic forge]

gotta make 1500 new account to get 1 free game to cheat on it 🤣

[vital jetty]

Yeah, it's stupid, but they'll do it.

[dusk oracle]

yo where Vin Diesel

[south lance]

next game rn we on asa

[prisma acorn]

Last I heard he was filming Fast & Furious: Race to Space

[tropic forge]

i thought was Race to Mars

[open quarry]

what kinda specs would be needed for ark 2/asa anyone know a good budget prebuilt pc for it? like 500-600 usd

[prisma acorn]

I dont think theyve posted anything spec wise yet

[tropic forge]

dint havent

[tropic forge]

since its next gen consoles only a pc for 600 bucks if it run will be whit everything off and low and prebuilt pc's aint good either cause normally those are out of production parts they need to get rid off or its a bunch they made and they will charge way more than actually their value

[prisma acorn]

what kinda gpu and cpu do you have in a 600$ pc

[tropic forge]

thats why i said if it runs would be everything off and low in all graphic options

although eu5.3 seems that will make magic whit dlss even on old gpu but ASA i dont think they have it already, they mention that on last cc right?

[vital jetty]

Current game is on 5.2 and they're looking into 5.3, and using SOME things from UE5.3, but not everything.

[tropic forge]

yeh but they mention they would made the jump cause the release was too short for them to make it and have erverything

[open quarry]

Yh budgets very low it was for a friend idek if my PC will run it tbh hoping it will

[tropic forge]

from last cc "Unreal Engine 5.3 is a relatively recent release, and we’ve been keeping up with all the changes that Epic is working on. It’s too soon for us to integrate it thoroughly, and quite frankly, quite risky so close to launch. For now, we’ve decided to cherry-pick some things from 5.3 that we like (such as Navmesh improvements, as well as the landscape), and over time, we’ll continue to upgrade the entire engine to 5.3 and beyond."

[tropic forge]

well as long you have more than 4 cores, gpu is around 2k series or above and have about 16g ram at least it should run

[prisma acorn]

my old 1060ti could run ASE on low

[vital jetty]

then you had a terrible CPU. a 970 could run most things on high with a few settings on low or off. a 1060TI shouldn't have struggled at all.

that or almost no RAM as well

[prisma acorn]

i think it was 16GB and a Ryzen 5

im on Ryzen 9 now and 64 gb with a 3080ti

everything epic

[dreamy summit]

What do you guys think will be the minimum system requirements for Asa if you had to take a guess

[tropic forge]

well im confident if i get ASA i can run everything at max whit mine if not only needs the UE5.3 update to be completed

[vital jetty]

I think you mean UE xD

[tropic forge]

6 cores, gpu is around 2k series or above and have about 16g ram

[dreamy summit]

That’s not bad

[tropic forge]

but thats just assumption not the real thing, that is for wc to decide

[dreamy summit]

For sure

I feel like that should have been in this last crunch

[vital jetty]

I'm sure a 1080 could get away with running ASA, just not on most optimal settings.

[tropic forge]

something tells me for gpu will be 3k series since they said its next gen only but pc's can change graphics by a lot maybe 2k series would fit on minimal

[dreamy summit]

Ima be running a i9 12900k, 64GB ram, and a 7900xtx

I should be ok

I was just wondering about the specs for my friends

[tropic forge]

yeh cheap pc's for gaming nowdays are getting bit more expensive since tec its making another big leap

[vital jetty]

A lot of people in here just asking " for friends" lol

[dreamy summit]

What’s wrong with that

[tropic forge]

nothing wrong asking for friends but its the term "its for a friend" that makes some ppl laugh

[open quarry]

hes implying they lying so they dont looks stupid ig

[dreamy summit]

Ohh ok

Well I mean, Idk know much about game spec requirements and I certainly don’t know about unreal 5 requirements, so I wasn’t sure

[vital jetty]

Not about looking stupid, many just don't want to seem like they have "bad" PCs for w/e reason, so they say "asking for a friend" instead of saying it's for them lol.

[dreamy summit]

Oh I get it, honestly if I had a budget pc and get away with all the things I’m trying to do with it that would be awesome. Spending this much on a pc is terrible

[open quarry]

i got mine for like 600 2 yrs ago i havent had problems but i havent gamed to an extreme amount tbh

[dreamy summit]

That’s why I’ve always chosen console for pure gaming, just straight to the point and it works. But pc can do everything else I’m looking to do as well

[open quarry]

you think youd get away with 4 core?😬

[dreamy summit]

I also don’t care what anyone says, playing MNK is such an advantage, even with controller aim assist. You can just do so much more. But ark doesn’t have aim assist anyways

[tropic forge]

6

[dreamy summit]

Unless you want to consider shadow stake aim assist lol

Steak

[open quarry]

im pretty sure im running a amd rx5500xt 8gb graphics card 16gb ram and AMD Ryzen 3 3100 4-Core Processor

[vital jetty]

Aim assist can work against you pretty hard too. Idk many who think M&K is at a disadvantage. the ability to be far more accurate will always out weight anything consoles get to try and close the distance.

[tropic forge]

but again im talking if ASA if at least minimally fresh good coding, if is going to be same mess as ASE coding whit UE5 that can go bad really fast, gotta wait for wc to make ASA page

[open quarry]

cpu isnt horrendous to upgrade price wise tbh

[dreamy summit]

For sure, it’s mostly fps games people complain about aim assist

[tropic forge]

for cpu you need motherboard for it, gpu the case dimentions gonna tell you what you can fit on it and so on

[dreamy summit]

So what’s the majority with everyone? You guys doing large tribe or smalls? And cross plat with everyone or just PlayStation and Xbox?

[open quarry]

i might chance my luck to see if my pc can run it as is cuz i need to buy new storage aswell

[tropic forge]

wait until they put ASA on steam you should get 2 weeks of time to get it right

[open quarry]

well ill be doing large on all crossplatform for sure i think ima also tickle my feet in pve a bit cuz some my friends dont like pvp

[open quarry]

wdym

[golden estuary]

someone know when ark 2 comes out

[dreamy summit]

Heck yea, should be fun

[dreamy summit]

2026

Scheduled for the end of 2024 though

[tropic forge]

somoene said here that for wc to place ASA page on steam to sell they have to do it 2 weeks before the date for selling

[open quarry]

i think it was ment 2024 but ark timeline...

[tropic forge]

actually 🤣 it was ment for this year but then they change their minds and when whit ASA

[dreamy summit]

I mean 👀 that would be cool

[open quarry]

idk if theyll do that cuz theres like 3 weeks until they launch it idk how it works tho

[tropic forge]

yeh too much happen to have a real idea what happen only wc could say the thru behind all this mess

[dreamy summit]

Does that mean this crunch we will get in game snapshots this week and maybe next week the trailer

[open quarry]

i think theyre leaving it very last minute to release gameplay and stuff

[tropic forge]

3weeks and half

[dreamy summit]

You think they will push it back again? Or you think this nitrado deal is holding them to it this month?

[tropic forge]

who knows, i think GP got the pic of whats gonna be on this cc, pic of last win creature and maybe something about ASA

[open quarry]

i have my money on 25th but idk if theyd release mid week

[open quarry]

thered be outrage if they delayed after shutting down servers so early

[tropic forge]

something tells me on 31th but i could be wrong but they never change, end of october

they wont delay you can count on that

[dreamy summit]

Well the last crunch said “near” the end of October

So that could mean many things

[tropic forge]

When is it launching?

The launch is just around the corner! We’ll reveal the launch trailer screenshots and set the game live at the end of October.

thats on last cc

[open quarry]

they wont delay but the game will definitely have some problems lmao

[vital jetty]

End of October could mean the last half of October, the final 1/3rd of October, the final week of October, or the 31st.

[open quarry]

i dont think itll be the 31st 29th is a saturday that s plausable

[tropic forge]

well on my country when you said its for the end of the month normally will be for the last 3 working days or something like that

[vital jetty]

For me I just hope it's the 24th or later personally. I'll be busy before that at a festival lol

[dreamy summit]

Q: Will there be a preorder? Get access to the game early? Exclusive Content? Pre-loading?

We aren't planning on making ARK: Survival Ascended available for pre-order. You can purchase the game towards the end of October when we reveal the trailer and related media.

I’m sorry it didn’t say near, it said towards

[tropic forge]

yeh like i said they havent change that yet its always end of oct

now it can be like berserker said

[dreamy summit]

Another thing I notice is they said you purchase it towards the end of October when they reveal the trailer, so they gonna release the game at the same time as the trailer?

[blissful perch]

Help me understand why this is something people spin out of control discussing, but not the actual game design or gameplay. @vital jetty I’m looking to you to help me

The game comes out the day it comes out, and the trailer comes out the day it comes out. Check the discord, YouTube, and steam to your heart’s content, and it’ll be there the exact time it’s ready

[dreamy summit]

It’s a subject to discuss and ponder over. You could literally say that about anything. Didn’t know it was bad to speculate a little

[vital jetty]

In regards to the release date in general and trying to FIGURE out when? No idea.

My comment on it being after the 24th? Because I want to be able to play Day 1 as a very competitive PvP player. lol

[blissful perch]

You didn’t commit a crime, and you’re always welcome to speculate. I just don’t grasp the appeal it seems to have to such a wide number of chatters here

[dreamy summit]

Thank you, not sure what your original comment was for than, but all good

[blissful perch]

Yea I was only referring to the first bit 😅

[pine basin]

I’ve checked a few months ago and all releases happened on Thursdays, except for genesis part 2

So I would bet on the 26

[dreamy summit]

I mean you could also speculate on what the game will look like too, like that pic of the mammoth looking thing. Will that really be what the game looks like or is it just a modded version someone created, we won’t know until they show

[vital jetty]

Becuase most everything has been discussed is my only other guess.

[blissful perch]

I can clarify by saying I read and participate in this chat to talk about game design of all scopes and scales. When the chat deviates into conversations about guessing a release date (imo a moving target that you’ll never pin down…and one that has no bearing on the quality of the game) it makes me sad I spent time reading

[pine basin]

Yeah, but what you seeing there is just the model and textures

[open quarry]

thats interesting

[blissful perch]

It’s true that news has been sluggish for a while, but you’ve surely seen that when we get news the chatter is extremely short lived. It’s like all the discussion dries up these days despite the content news being pretty cool

[open quarry]

how do you change your role to pc on here

[dreamy summit]

I get that, and I appreciate you discussing the game design with everyone, but if you see people are constantly talking about the release date, and you don’t want to read all that, then by all means stop reading that. Maybe bring up a topic of graphical speculation

[pine basin]

Did you see the little footage Cuda cores posted on his twitch? The new lighting alone makes a huge difference

He used the ASE assets with UE5

[thick tulip]

i feel like youre underestimating the frequency of that question lol

[open quarry]

ive seen some videos of what could be in it the footsteps or trailes could add some cool stuff to do with tracking people down instead of them hiding in a bush lmao

[blissful perch]

Gotta sift through the dirt to get to gold some days. A sneaky design chat can be sandwiched by some…less than preferable discussion

[dreamy summit]

Elaborate?

[open quarry]

think he means its a hot topic the questions bout release are probably daily

[prisma acorn]

I mean it is all confusing, game won't be available for pre-order but will be available to purchase when the trailer comes out so it implies that the trailer will drop on release day because if you can purchase it before it's released then its a preorder right

[open quarry]

i think its a bit stupid they wait to release the game to give a trailer

like they should have enough for gameplay or ss to give a little more hype or expectations

[dreamy summit]

I’m sure it is discussed a lot these days. I didn’t exactly start the topic of which day. I simply asked earlier if fox thinks they are going to push the game back again, and then everyone started trying to decipher the day it releases. Which is fine, it’s something fun to see what everyone thinks. It doesn’t hurt anybody, neither does speculation on game design either. I don’t care either way. What I do think is uncalled for is to jump in the chat and ridicule people for speculating on things that non of us know

[pine basin]

that’s not my interpretation of what they’ve said, but it’s what I think will happen. Screenshots and videos only when the game is released.

[blissful perch]

Ridicule? Not sure where that happened

[pine basin]

Screenshots and video footage of upcoming games is a sensitive topic to any developer

It’s not just record and release

[blissful perch]

There’s almost always a release day trailer for ark content isn’t there? Dunno why it would be different if so

[prisma acorn]

also by all means id love to talk about the cave changes but as of today we have no idea what those changes are

they could be unbuildable

or bigger

[open quarry]

they said nun major so

[pine basin]

TBF the biggest change is not having cryos

[dreamy summit]

You can get the point you were making “waisting time reading it” “less than preferred discussion” it’s ok, just a little uncalled for. Let people talk about what they want

[blissful perch]

A minor change with major impact could be removing cave crawl entrances

[pine basin]

That alone changes the whole meta

[open quarry]

id say movement speed tbh

[pine basin]

Yeah, that too

[blissful perch]

Couldn’t tell you if movement speed or cryos will hit harder, but movement speed is a top tier move by WC. Lord knows the game fell apart with speed goblins

[pine basin]

Without superfast Dinos and players it gets harder to raid a cave

[grim kestrel]

One issue in today society in the gaming world anyways. Everyone has come to think or expect that games should all have trailers or previews prior to launch when that just simply not the case.

Those are added bonus and just an option that some companies use as a form of advertising, but it not a requirement.

[open quarry]

no rocket running will change metas alot especially in caves where you cant get dinos in

[prisma acorn]

i think alot more people will be utilizing swamp fever now

leveling to remove the debuff but keep speed

[blissful perch]

How about the “one year before launch have the game ready with a trailer showing ingame footage”

[pine basin]

Back in the days we just raised the Dinos inside

[open quarry]

yeah but it could lead to dissapointment to alot of people if they get really hyped about a game which is meant to look much better but it j ends up shit

[blissful perch]

That happens all the time. It’s only an issue if preorders are involved

[pine basin]

But it’s harder to move them around without cryos

[open quarry]

i wish i played more official pvp back then tbh

[pine basin]

Even more if your are attacking

[blissful perch]

People who want something and hype it up in their heads create unrealistic expectations constantly

[dreamy summit]

World of Warcraft, the trailers were top tier, the game play, not so much

[pine basin]

It was nice, but also frustrating 😂

[open quarry]

i also noticed they mentioned microsoft and steam release but not epic games will it not be released on there?

[blissful perch]

Isn’t it also harder to raid once IN the cave? Feel like you’re kinda screwed once you get in and can’t release anything

[pine basin]

Epic is a bit sh$t

[open quarry]

walking the dinos across the map to raid🤣

[prisma acorn]

we'll just go back to transporting stegos via quezt

[pine basin]

They probably don’t want to deal with epic while having to update the game frequently

[open quarry]

id consider it better than microsoft shop tho ive never bought off there

[tropic forge]

dollie — 09/30/2023 3:52 AM
regarding movespeed/cryos etc etc

ig just keep in mind, we are trying stuff, we'll be monitoring, and we expect to make adjustments, lots all over is changing a lil

try not to be too dramatic (i get it but it's gonna be okay). remember it's early access and we'll be listening to the community and adjusting as we assess all of the moving parts and feedback

seems they can change back

[grim kestrel]

You hit the nail on the head, with both your post "it harder to move dinos without cryos" and the one I replied to.

People that can't survive until extinction without cryos are the ones that want the game easier not immersive.

[pine basin]

It’s not, at least in my opinion

[blissful perch]

Some people did become full blown drama queens about movement speed. I hope they don’t get heard at the cost of the rest of us

[dreamy summit]

Rynioganatha or however you spell it will be a big play starting out

[open quarry]

i definitely agree with no cryos but it will cause more frustratiuon espcecially with higher render distance with tame sniping

[pine basin]

I will be happy if they get rid of cryos for good 😂

[tropic forge]

gotta say i was force to increase speed for gen 1 and 2 certain missions

[pine basin]

At least for pvp

[grim kestrel]

Ark 2 is coming and it going to be fun.

[blissful perch]

Yea we do have to expect WC to rebalance missions etc if they change movement speed or other mechanics

[tropic forge]

that survival the ark mission on gen 2 was brutal if you dont have speed

[open quarry]

nah its probably not bad but im basing my opinions off its apearance which i shouldnt ill be buying ark off it anyway

[dreamy summit]

How much further do you think the distance will be. They said 70% with tames but comparatively how far you think they would be?

[pine basin]

Probably in a year… I hope they make ASA good so we will have a good Ark to play soon

[open quarry]

gettin gen 2 boss was sucha pain with bad wifi and ps4

[pine basin]

I mean, regarding UI you are right, but Epic is bad on several other aspects, including updates

[open quarry]

ark 2 is meant to be such a different game i wonder which ill stay on more when it launches

[tropic forge]

but pve needs cryos or servers gonna hit dino cap forever, its already bad on ase some dint want to cryo their color dinos just to show off

[grim kestrel]

cough Get an ethernet cable cough

[pine basin]

Ask the guys using Geforce Now why they hate Epic 😂

[blissful perch]

Needs dino storage - not pokeballs

[pine basin]

This

[open quarry]

i hava w wifi booster yoke now it does great surprisingly we also cahnged provider its 10x better

[tropic forge]

sure that works and even better if you could have a struture to start boss fights on your base cause using obelisk's its a serious mess , ppl leave dinos there already whit cryos and even worst when there wasent cryos

[open quarry]

actually a problem i see arising with no cryos is that dino tracking sytem they mentioned how organised or easy to use will that be with so many dinos out,

[blissful perch]

I really like genesis 1’s approach of starting the boss from anywhere

[open quarry]

also people tend to be disrespectful and breed your dinos without permission another problem

[pine basin]

Also the fact you have to unlock the boss (in this case missions, but it could be anything)

[grim kestrel]

Wired is still 10x better than that, hence why my Series X and my gaming PC are both wired. Wouldn't do wireless ever. I even play 95% of the time with my controller plugged in on my Xbox cause it does help over wireless even on the controller.

[tropic forge]

plus missions cause its a serious pain to farm artifacts to do boss fights i would rather missions just no race ones

[pine basin]

I mean, I know people that go to bosses naked, they just get the levels and go

[split dove]

are you also sad Ark 2 is doing away the possibility of the
1 hour long skeletal bronto super engaging dino fights? combat or are you some masochist that loves skillful and rewarding combat

[blissful perch]

Missions > artifacts

[blissful perch]

I told you and Bruising to stop exposing me for falling asleep fighting one of those 😂

[open quarry]

yeah i agree but i get great performance anyway no lag and very low ping my booster is connected to my sp4 and pc by wire my wifi router is too far to justify doin all the work tbh lmao

[split dove]

had to do it one last time before the physical trainwreck i'm about to experience at work tomorrow

[grim kestrel]

If it works, I do go on the saying "if it not broke, don't fix it."

[prisma acorn]

have any of you tried The Hunted mod? I've been playing it alot recently and it makes you appreciate having 100% ms

[blissful perch]

My very early ark 2 chats centered around that mod, I’m familiar

[open quarry]

i havea theory now that theres no movement speed melee bobs will skyrocket lmao. also theris. theris and creatures like it will be lethal.

[blissful perch]

I think the hunted mod was amazing at testing ark as a real survival game

Biggest gripe I had with the hunted was that it leaned disgustingly on breeding and mutations

[tropic forge]

theris only if you get close now raptors 🤣

[open quarry]

i meant more ridden ones but i was thinking pocket theris but uh yh no cryos

[prisma acorn]

Yeah it starts out out with all your stats cut in half so you cant invest alot into ms. I'm currently on 120 or so and i dont think i need more then that for most creatures

[open quarry]

wild raptors will end me in the first while

[tropic forge]

gonna be fun to get rid of alpha raptors on the first days 🤣

[paper wasp]

Are they getting rid of movement speed points?

[prisma acorn]

yeah you cant level MS on anything

[paper wasp]

Oh wait wrong chat lol

[tropic crag]

Can't you do that on any map, aside from like Gen 2? And I know singleplayer/canonically that's different, but I'm choosing to ignore that bit

[prisma acorn]

unless enabled by the server

[split dove]

singleplayer moment™️

[open quarry]

traps will have to be used for taming alot more things now probably. might not be able to run and tranq much😂

[prisma acorn]

IIRC HLNA will let you start the boss literally everywhere, no beacon/obi required

[tropic crag]

Ah, true

[tropic forge]

i never use that run and tranq dint even know that was a thing, since i only played on officials pve and everything normally would be pillar i would use rocks to get dino trap or a wyvern to be use as a tank while a tranq the dino

[blissful perch]

Don’t think so. You can do any drop/obelisk, but on genesis 1 you can do anywhere

[tropic crag]

Even then, most maps I think you can start them from any drop, which uhhh, is usually more than enough tbh

[tropic forge]

that works for pvp not pve

[blissful perch]

It works for normal PvE too. Only official PvE blocks flier carry

[tropic forge]

cant grab wild dinos

[open quarry]

I haven't played for a long time what are then insect things like

[blissful perch]

It’s annoying to say the least to leave X tames at a drop…especially without cryos

[open quarry]

Its more to j chill not worry if you've no time or no big tribe personally I get bored way to quick to play but I see the point

[tropic forge]

certain trolls in early access found funny droping snakes and other dinos on ppl base and wc fix was to deny grabbing wild dinos

[open quarry]

Luring corrupted dinos on pve was kinda funny ngl

[tropic crag]

Eh, most bosses you get tp'd back to the spot I'm pretty sure, save like Ab since you get force uploaded (the only fair criticism of Ab imo)

[prisma acorn]

so ASA Focal Chili + Swamp Fever meta?

[blissful perch]

PvE is about enjoying the Bob game and finding your own fun (imo)

[tropic crag]

Likely

[tropic forge]

well theres ppl like me that like to go to sleep and wake up whit everything that work soo much to get it still up and not raid

[open quarry]

Bosses

I think breeders in pve focus more on appearance than stats

[tropic crag]

I love how people forget that you can still infact PvP in PvE lol

[split dove]

i don't wanna do a virtual job after i've been slinging garbage bins for 8-10 hours

[open quarry]

Can you?

[blissful perch]

Not official PvE ofc, which looks to be the discussion

[tropic crag]

Yes, the tribe war mechanic exists

[blissful perch]

Same here king

[tropic forge]

thats the thing whit sand box games, you make your own goals

[tropic crag]

Last I heard you can, but idk I don't slave away at that garbage (official)

[grim kestrel]

You can still initate a tribe war

[prisma acorn]

If you're in a tribe war, for a set amount of time, you can PVP

[open quarry]

What can you do in said tribe war

[tropic crag]

Uh

PvP

[tropic forge]

there was a time you could do pvp in pve officials but for that 2 tribes at to agree for pvp

[open quarry]

Just damage players and dinos or van you damage structures

[prisma acorn]

You both agree upon a time that it will take place

so like from 0800 to 2400

[tropic forge]

and the amount of time

[prisma acorn]

then at 2400 it ends

[tropic forge]

and would affect allies too if not mistake

[prisma acorn]

mmm dont quite remember its been a long time

Well PvE alot of the fun was RP stuff, and for RP having a Tribe War mechanic was really nice

[open quarry]

I was never good at pvp but I still enjoyed going out and getting annihilated getting the odd kill every now and then was satisfying

[blissful perch]

I just hated the amount of prep needed to do so little actual PvP

[tropic forge]

hassle for me would be spending entire day making bullets and hope next day my base would still be up but thats me

[blissful perch]

Whereas I could boot overwatch and play PvP in about 5 minutes

[open quarry]

Well you kinda need to have a big tribe to last a long time

[split dove]

doomfist sufferwatch (pain)

[open quarry]

Small tribes is fun but hard to stay unwiped for long periods

[tropic crag]

I just like that the tribe war mechanic is, you know, somewhat structured PvP 😂

[blissful perch]

I’d love a siege mode in ark

[open quarry]

Isn't that sotf kinda

[blissful perch]

Where everyone is slapped on two teams, one of which defends a predetermined spot, the other of which raids

[open quarry]

Ohh nvm

[blissful perch]

I think a massive scale dinosaur war is what PvP really shines at…but it’s defeated by the irritating amount of grinding and online time needed to get going

[prisma acorn]

I remember the days of setting 6 alarms through the night to get on and imprint my dinos, sleeping in 40-45 min bursts at random times during the day to not get raided and to constantly breed for my tribe

[blissful perch]

It would be amazingly fun to have 60 minutes prep time for both teams at accelerated rates, then an open siege until X time, where one team either holds the base and wins or the other team wipes them and wins

[tropic forge]

thats more likely end whit a ddos

[open quarry]

Grinding all that out chilling w friends in a party has always been kinda enjoyable for me tbh ik alot of people find it tedious tho. I was starting to get into breeding I loved that it was very satisfying to get the mutations and all but going back to gigas having to hand feed for hours I am dreading ngl. I've lost alot of gigas falling asleep while tryna raise them😂

[pine basin]

Kinda… the 70 players limit kill it. Whenever people starts “invading” a server, it gets capped really fast. After that you can be disconnected and not be able to get back

[open quarry]

Awk I forgot about mutations it'll be impossible to get 100% again need to get kibble farms and all back up but school and work will not allow 100% imp

[blissful perch]

Yea it would need to be hard capped at 35 players per team

[pine basin]

Hopefully they improved the server performance side of things

[open quarry]

I really hope they improved the servers but it could be worse than before but I have faith

That's far away tho

[blissful perch]

It was fun when I had tons of time in my life, so I get that. But imo you can have the same fun playing casual PvP or doing something less tedious and repetitive

[pine basin]

Worse than ASE I don’t think so, but I hope it’s better

[pine basin]

Unfortunately I don’t have the time anymore. I can’t play the game for hours/everyday

[open quarry]

Idk better graphics and dinos out all over the place bigger render distance there's alot more to process but Id say it will be better

[open quarry]

Yeah neither do I sadly I'm hoping my tribe won't be ridiculous with qoutas and shit so the experience is ruined grinding that the few hours I have a day or week

[pine basin]

But 2 things: 1 - better engine, UE5 can deal with more data 2 - better hardware, the old servers were sh$t compared to new ones

[blissful perch]

Tbh it made me way happier to toss out gaming that was just a waste of time. If the game isn’t engaging or providing me with a cool experience, I just stop playing…and I had no idea how positive that would be for my social and mental well-being

[open quarry]

Did they upgrade their servers?

[tropic forge]

good question 🤣

[vital jetty]

They've said there is going to be breeding and baby QoL, so might not be as hard as it was before.

[open quarry]

I think they just changed the % stats go up no?

[pine basin]

TBF the only game that really made play hours and hours was Ark. I’m not used to play games like that.

[vital jetty]

They haven't said what the changes are.

[open quarry]

They did in last crunch

[blissful perch]

They did state they’re decoupling mutated stat points from wild stat points

[pine basin]

They didn’t

They always finish with “and much more”

[vital jetty]

yeah idk what you read but you read wrong lol

[pine basin]

We now like 1% of the changes

Like, are kibbles the same?

We had one QoL change for kibbles, will we have another one?

[vital jetty]

CC 356 " Dino/Baby Management QOL"

[blissful perch]

They did say they’d change some creature stats around in light of the mutation changes

[open quarry]

Aw maybe I skipped over

[blissful perch]

And they DID state a change to mutations and their impact on wild stats

[open quarry]

Yh I think I j read that I must not have read the other thing

[pine basin]

I thought that was a but confusing, I did a lot of breeding, but didn’t get what’s that change about

[open quarry]

I seen a good video explaining it yesterday

[tropic forge]

This one sounds scary, we know. Our Product and QA teams were freaking out about it, but generally, our intention hasn’t been to change the strength of creatures but to make the implementation cleaner. Previously, mutations were based on a creature's wild stat multiplier, and now we’ve given it its multiplier. This has led to some creatures receiving some buffs/nerfs in particular stats, but we intend to rebalance this over time as we evaluate their roles in the meta. We’ll want your feedback on that :).
We have NOT FIXED getting more than 20 mutations, but we removed the 255 cap so that servers can specify a cap. We’ll leave it as is for our Officials (255), but it’s open to adjustments.

[open quarry]

Its basically before it would go up 10% damage let's say it could go up like 5 per a mutation now. But wild dinos would still go up 10 per point I THINK.

[blissful perch]

Right. We don’t know squat about the real impact

[blissful perch]

Negative. There was no % with ASE mutations

[open quarry]

I mean like as in a stat

[blissful perch]

Basically every mutation gave a fixed amount of a given stat

[open quarry]

555 damage to 565

[ripe cedar]

The damage stat is shown as a percentage though

[blissful perch]

That amount was a % of the creatures base stat, but it was always an identical value

[pine basin]

Hence why I don’t get what’s the change here.

[open quarry]

Yh I could swear that that's what I meant😂

[blissful perch]

The change is that they’re not being added as the same value

[pine basin]

But breeders just look at them as points

[blissful perch]

A mutation and a wild dino point will no longer be an identical increase

[pine basin]

% doesn’t matter much

[ripe cedar]

The change is it is possible to balance mutation stats independently of wild ones

For start they will probably be extremely similar

[open quarry]

There could be some really good buffs to underated dinos in that change tbh

[blissful perch]

A 40 point hp stego and a 30 point stego with 5 health mutations will now not have identical stats (in ASE they’re functionally identical)

We don’t know what those stats ARE, but we know they won’t be the same

[open quarry]

Well some might stay the same but alot will change

[pine basin]

Really? Even without imprinting?

[open quarry]

Gigas will probably be hit hard tbh

[pine basin]

Gigas are trash, now we are aiming carchars 😂

It’s faster and doesn’t rage

[ripe cedar]

Yeah i hope they go back on carch and rhynio at launch but they prob wont

[open quarry]

I haven't played since they were released

[ripe cedar]

They just arent balanced for island only meta

[pine basin]

Also, it has the frenzy kill

[blissful perch]

The assumption in my statement was no imprinting

But if both are imprinted it’s the same story. Imprints also change the “wild” stats

[tropic forge]

i stop on gen 2 🤣

[tropic forge]

island only for a month at first

[pine basin]

I’ve never noticed 40 points tamed would be different than 40 points breeded

[open quarry]

Idk when I stopped tbh I think it was around char release

[open quarry]

That's the thing that's changed it was the same before

[ripe cedar]

For carch you would need to make it lose to gigas every time because otherwise with its increase in speed and higher damage with stacks it would just work better in every situation since no cryos anyway, and rhynio i dont even know what to do with it it will be broken i think no matter what they change about it

[pine basin]

But how they changed that, I still don’t get it 😂

[south lance]

just reduce carch stats in half

simplest fix

[blissful perch]

Also make gigas less dumb

[south lance]

half too much? a third then

[pine basin]

It already does

[open quarry]

So if 1 point is 10 health in the wild it could be 9 health from a mutation

[south lance]

third too much? a fourth then

its not a difficult balance game if you want them balanced compared to each other

[pine basin]

The only reason people kept their gigas was because they had more advanced genetics

[blissful perch]

Gigas are way too stat heavy to be a well designed 2023 tame. It was great in 2015, but complexity has risen and it’s time to toss the oversized meat grinder idea

Give the giga something unique that isn’t stupid stats

[south lance]

just get rid of giga even

[open quarry]

Are carchs on island?

[pine basin]

Yes

[south lance]

carch already fills the role and has the necessary complexity

[pine basin]

They share all giga spawns

[south lance]

rhygnio is gonna be a problem tho

[pine basin]

Id agree with that

[south lance]

idk why they cant just scale shit back

like people are gonna buy regardless

its just sunk cost that keeps shit in game

[pine basin]

Never tamed it, I was done with Ark before the release

Is it op?

[south lance]

idk

it seems so tho

[tropic forge]

bleed stats

[vital jetty]

It can move things around your base like the Mek you get from defeating Gen 2 boss lmao.

[south lance]

since rhygnio can pick up rexes even

paracers too?

[blissful perch]

Bleed stats…how

[tropic forge]

wild ones already have it

[pine basin]

😂 WC sometimes amazes me. Why they do that?

[south lance]

this had to be a snail games thing

[blissful perch]

You mean ADD bleed to gigas? I assume we’d do this and drop stats accordingly?

[south lance]

or idk, they got tired of all the giga killer suggestions and wanted to punish us for our mistakrs

[vital jetty]

Because sometimes really terrible creature votes happen, and some of their suggested abilities make it in

[south lance]

they didnt need to actually give it all those stats tho

[tropic forge]

yeh make gigas having the ability to do bleed stats like the wild ones, whit bites

[south lance]

they guaranteed have an idea of too much

they just didnt care

[pine basin]

White damage for gigas? Are you out of your mind? 😂

[blissful perch]

I’m always very curious about how WC wants to balance ark

[pine basin]

No thanks

[tropic forge]

btw the way of taming it is the same as the reapers except you sacrifice a dino instead of you

[south lance]

idk it just seems spiteful the last couple years

[blissful perch]

I think it’s a constant tension between the “competitive” minded folks and the sandbox RP folks who just want fun toys and don’t give a rat’s cheeks about balance

[tropic forge]

well he said gigas should have something unique so i give a idea 🤣

[pine basin]

Asa should have blueprints for creature traps

[south lance]

maybe ig, idrk

[pine basin]

Did they say anything about building blueprints for ASA?

[open quarry]

Actually you know how there's no incubators at launch will you be able to pick up tuso eggs or will they go back to how they were

[tropic forge]

nope

[pine basin]

Or is this something exclusive to Ark 2?

[south lance]

i just wish theyd stop abusing people these dinos

[tropic forge]

only ark 2 so far

[open quarry]

That would be cool

[south lance]

was rhygnio chosen before asa was announced

idr

if that was the case maybe the dino makes sense

[pine basin]

Theoretically all Dinos might get balance passes before ASA

[vital jetty]

Wouldn't matter. THey'd be well aware that it was being made by the point they announced lol

[pine basin]

Hopefully they won’t be the same creatures we had in ASE

[tropic forge]

still wainting for pic in UE5, not sure why they havent share yet since thats the main dish for UE5

[south lance]

ye but then if ark2 was the goal it makes sense to add in a dino that you dont have to think much about and is just there to facilitate end game qol

[south lance]

hopefully

it would make a lot more sense now anyways since asa is gonna have to make money

[vital jetty]

Gen 2 accomplishes that. 0 reason to let a creature do something a boss gives you access to

[south lance]

but then, maybe theyll just go all out on mods

[south lance]

does exomek pick up dinos?

[tropic forge]

you know why that flying bug win? freeloaders

[pine basin]

I don’t think so

[south lance]

i thought it only did structures so adding a way to pick up large dinos is helpful

[vital jetty]

No, but it can pick up your structures and move them around the base like it's nothing.

[south lance]

ye

[pine basin]

There’s the RTS mode, but I don’t remember them picking Dino’s

[south lance]

so exomek tlc

[blissful perch]

Freeloaders…you mean people who get the game for free?

[south lance]

just like all the other dinos they add

[blissful perch]

Cause that’s not a freeloader lol

[tropic forge]

yup

[south lance]

just tlc of old dinos

[vital jetty]

idc about it picking up dinos. THat's w/e. The moving of structures is wild.

[pine basin]

Exomek isn’t coming this year, so they aren’t so concerned

[vital jetty]

Now I can slotcap and throw it in a vault while someone else uses a rhinio to bring it back to base, rinse and repeat.

[south lance]

im just saying rhygnio couldve been exomek tlc

[blissful perch]

I do like that there’s a lot of cool things to explore in limited unofficial environments. I could imagine a cool PvP cluster where tek is banned and you’d lean more heavily on the Gnatha

[south lance]

classic is that

[pine basin]

I mean, I hope they are removing this feature from the Rhynio

[south lance]

but the issue is that too much new stuff makes it into classic

notably net guns, but now this exomek bug

[pine basin]

Classic isn’t classic anymore 😂

[south lance]

its just tekless

[blissful perch]

I agree classic ain’t the term to use. But I do support modes that force you to shift the meta

[pine basin]

Kinda

[south lance]

or not even that idr whether classic has tek

[south lance]

itd be nice to have some sorta rotation of meta

[blissful perch]

That’s what I’ve always pitched in my season approach

[south lance]

couldve easily done so with arkpoc

[blissful perch]

There’s a reason people like seasons so much, and a huge piece of that is meta changing

[pine basin]

They did that, but they just scalated things over time

[south lance]

which is guaranteed gonna come since its the most popular official mode based on population density

[south lance]

wdym

on classic? cause classic always had new balance passes each season

likewise for conquest iirc

or do you mean via dlc

[pine basin]

I mean, in 2015 you would have x plants + turrets defending and turtles and rexes attacking.

Now it’s chaos

[south lance]

ye but that changed cause of dlc

idk if that counts since it adds stuff to a preexisting meta

it doesnt forcibly remove anything tho

[blissful perch]

I’d argue DLC isn’t quite a season because the DLC rarely retroactively changes existing content

[pine basin]

They just released something more op to counter something op

[south lance]

so all the most op stuff from prior meta survives as power creep sends everything else to irrelevancu

[blissful perch]

That’s called power creep, and yes ark struggles with that

[pine basin]

Scalation after scalation

[south lance]

thus lightning wyvern being meta for forever xd

was there ever a time people didnt use lightning wyverns

[pine basin]

Do you remember when cluster bombs were the meta? LOL

[south lance]

i joined ark around 2020 ish

i think clusters were a thing slightly before, idr

[pine basin]

One quetzal, 20 naked players and cluster bombs and you would raid any base

[south lance]

i remember seeing people do that on yt lol

[pine basin]

Yeah, it was an scorched meta

[south lance]

but its really bad too, since it exacerbates the issues of prior metas by only allowing thr strongest aspects to remain

[vital jetty]

don't forget using a mindwipe to have 1000 HP so you could tank the turrets to get it off lmao

[south lance]

not just individual tames being irrelevant but the anything that isnt op

[vital jetty]

It's why they made it so you couldn't Mindwipe for REALLY long time before putting in a 24 hour cd lol

[blissful perch]

You know I’ve never claimed it was good lol

[pine basin]

Or beer

[south lance]

because the way they decide how powerful something should be is from the dominant items prior

[pine basin]

It was really broken

But at least it didn’t last long

[south lance]

fair yeah, i mean its especially bad in ark, since theres supposed to be more options as its a sandbox, and powercreep removes even more options comparatively than in other games

at least i think

idk how many items have changed from a given kit

[vital jetty]

Beer alone wasn't helping you vs 4000 turrets back then ( no turret caps)> you needed beer + al ot of HP. It's why when they nerfed Mindwipe to once per character, that meta stopped almost immediately.

[south lance]

a lot stayed the same tho

[blissful perch]

Ark struggles hard with making new content viable in a game that’s heavily skewed towards time commitment based progression

A new tame can’t be comparable to an existing one, at least not once mutation stacking started…because stat wise you’d never bother investing in it

[pine basin]

They just need to be more open minded about having seasons

[blissful perch]

If it’s SUPER good however, people will play with the new toys. That’s the environment WC made for itself. The issue is that once people have time to breed the new stuff? It becomes wildly dominant and power creeps everything else out -> so you need to repeat the process

[pine basin]

Periodically wiping servers could be good

[south lance]

they kinda bypassed that with abilities

[blissful perch]

They had to bypass their own design flaw imo

[south lance]

i kinda hate breeding for that reason tho

[blissful perch]

If mutations didn’t exist, you could have more lateral viability. But in ASE there’s legit 0 reason to invest time in a “similar” tame to one you’ve already bred

[south lance]

its not like you have to choose between faster, less hp, slower, more hp, you just choose the one thats the exact same but with more abilities

thus, carch

[blissful perch]

That’s a combination of WC growing in complexity and realizing what I stated above about new content viability

[south lance]

ya

[south lance]

6 month wipe ish

however long the average time is to cap a line

assuming similar cap standards

as ase

[vital jetty]

it take longer than 6 months to cap a line what lmfao

[south lance]

i remember seeing people at like 350 shadowmanes like 2-3 months after gen2

babies

[pine basin]

Asa will release with extra life buffs coming after a week

Expect super fast breeding this time

[vital jetty]

Levels don't mean much unless you've taken down the useless stats.

[south lance]

its not exact, but i doubt people are not continuously cleaning out shitty stats

[vital jetty]

Some don'e focus on those until near level cap.

[south lance]

then sure, might take longer

[vital jetty]

Gigas took YEARS to get capped.

Racers took YEARS to get capped

sure SOME dinos can be capped faster, but not all.

[south lance]

what about med sized tames tho

manas, shadowmanes, stalkers, etc

[tropic forge]

it really depends on the luck ot get the right mutation and so on

[pine basin]

I mean, there are glitches that basically made us being able to have a melee mutation for a giga every day and a half. It was easy for large tribes

[south lance]

i can understand gigas since they take so long to breed

[vital jetty]

stalkers are so small you can fit 50000 in an area. probably the fastest bred dino ngl lol

[south lance]

and some people are still selling wyverns under cap

[pine basin]

Unlimited elements, glitches etc. Unless they fixes those, it will be super fast to cap Dino’s

[vital jetty]

And how long did it take for you to max out that stat? I was in Megas. No one had capped Giga melee for years.

[pine basin]

In a giga, something like 10 months

[vital jetty]

yeah you're lying

[pine basin]

For faster tames, less than that

[vital jetty]

unless on unofficials lol

[pine basin]

No 😂

[vital jetty]

There is literally 0 way you had capped giga stats 10 months in and none of the mega tribes did on officials.

and no one ever found out about it on top of it.

[south lance]

how many years did gigas take

[pine basin]

Ok then

[vital jetty]

IDR, but it was awhile.

[south lance]

idk if people knew how to optimize breeding early on