#ark-2

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lime forge
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Awww I could also boost loot rates on PvP servers

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I’m not sure what you’re talking about

untold totem
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People just ignore the complicated BS and just camp in the PVP or PVE zone and not transfer at all

tropic crag
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Not that I know of, sadly. But there's probably a way

tropic crag
untold totem
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If they want a bigger map space to PVP, ATLAS grid system is viable than what ARK has for limited space

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Remember the bigger the space the more memory needed for your server PC

The grid made it seamless compared to normal transfer

mighty lion
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Nms ark edition would be epic

winged dome
untold ingot
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I really like the idea, but I feel like they would need a pretty good procedural generator to make that work in any normal timeframe

tropic crag
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And we all know how well that works... lol

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For Ark, that is

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A game that is not 90% ocean

untold totem
# tropic crag A game that is not 90% ocean

ARK 2 is not gonna set on a space station anymore

they have an excuse to make an ocean work... you know... it's a celestial body with multiple ways to go around and no invisible walls to stop you..... ||aside from downed grid||

untold totem
untold totem
tropic crag
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We already know the worldspace is handcrafted, anyways. But what you just said about proc gen is the why of why they aren't going to do it that way

ocean tendon
blissful perch
tropic crag
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Ehhh, maybe for the Eden side, I guess. You're the only person I've met that really has an issue with Gen 2 lol

clever vortex
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Gen 2 did have some subtle variation between areas within the Eden ring, it's just that they actually smoothly transitioned from one to another rather than having it be like the visible line between the snow and jungle biomes on the Island. It's weird because even though Gen 2 is literally a giant spaceship and it goes out of its way to make that far more obvious than any other map, it still feels more natural to me than the Island, just because the biomes within each ring aren't placed so illogically.

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Hopefully those more natural transitions between biomes will make it into ARK 2

stray elm
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You know, I still feel like the Vin-Diesel scene should've been a post-credit thing.
Kind of ruins the mood from a sad ending, to "respawned again" back to a sad track.

clever vortex
stray elm
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TRUE!!

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Never thought about it like that!

mint swan
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Dead already rip 🪦☠️

untold totem
rare heart
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We need bob odenkirk in ark 2

untold ingot
blissful perch
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I played through the whole thing with no tek, and can comfortably say it’s the most eligible for procedural generation. Again, not a knock, simply a statement that implies you can make immersive massive biomes of a single type with such a system without needing much/any painful hand crafting

untold ingot
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I would love to see a decent procedural generator for ark 2, if they make every official server procedurally generated and then do tweaks just to keep them working and decent that would be epic

ocean tendon
untold totem
untold ingot
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Yeah, it woukd take a couple people going over every bit of the map to make sure it's good

rare heart
lost gale
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rapid cedar
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Monekeys

fringe comet
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Ark 2 hopefully doesn't change pvp too much

tropic crag
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Hopefully it does

winged dome
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I really hope it does

blissful perch
ripe cedar
# blissful perch I have some insanely bad news lol

I mean it still probably gathering resources and using that to tame dinos make items and build bases in order to raid people to take there stuff for yourself, just the specifics on taming crafting and actually damaging enemies is most likely different

dry ingot
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I wish Ark2 isn’t Cross play.

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Like ark

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1x

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Takes care of the cheating

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Smalls is

fallow niche
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If this is going to turn into a rant about Ark 1, politely move to #general.

dry ingot
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Basically ruined the game

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I just said I hope it’s not Crossplay that’s all

fallow niche
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As for Ark 2, I don't know that they've stated it will be crossplay, but considering it will be on Microsoft (both versions) it likely will be.

dry ingot
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I’m sure they have wayyyyyy more funding now lol

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And with the new engine 5 a lot more control over everything

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Heard that because ark is on an old platform they can’t really fix a lot of the glitches and exploits and have to work around it to fix it. So yeah. Hope they come out with a beta

split dove
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early access launch will be your beta

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playstation usually doesn't like early access titles, it's confirmed to launch in early access next year on xbox and pc at the same time along with the timed exclusivity contract with Microsoft, playstation launch will be after

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it is what it is unfortunately

dry ingot
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Yeah I played Xbox preview ark

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Graphics were horrendous but the concepts was 🔥

brave cairn
dry ingot
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I heard the fart and that poop dropped I was sucked in. Then I seen the toilet that gave you xp per 💩 sheeeeeeesh and the boat lol. Good times as a beach bob for sure

blissful perch
blissful perch
potent hull
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you no i hop they add season like winter summer fall in to ark it can snow or rain a lot be cold

split dove
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who knows what they will reveal in the future or extra life

winged dome
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Seasons would be awesome

stray elm
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Still have the firm believe that ARK should steer more towards the semi-horror theme Aberration was going with, and turn that up.

exotic river
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Who else here agrees ark 2 should have a build limit on structures

brave cairn
stray elm
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We know they'll have blueprint sharing, akin to Forge in Halo.
But besides that. Yeah, we don't know jack shit about building.

deft saddle
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Prefabs would be so helpful ngl

mellow wadi
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Anything new about ark 2 I need to know since the last 2 months?

untold ingot
mellow wadi
stray elm
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So, I just discovered something about Destiny-2 that I think would be interesting for ARK-2

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Destiny-2 has been adding recreated raids from the first game. Taking major moments (like the main-antagonist of the first-games mission) and remastering it for Destiny-2.
So, from what it sounds like, ARK-2 is obviously pretty damn different then ARK-1. But keeps the barebone of what made the original game good.
A lot of newer players probably wont want to go back to ARK-1 just to get important lore-bits and such, or the experience due to how grindy as all fuck the game is.
So, I wonder what y'all would think if Wildcard did a similar thing.
Remastering specific moments like bosses in ARK-2 as side-quests.
You obviously wouldn't get ascension levels, but normal loot like any other mission.
Just wondering what you guys think of an idea like that.

wispy sierra
stray elm
# wispy sierra idk. it wouldn't really make sense, considering that ark 2 events take place aft...

Same thing in Destiny. These raids are happening canonically in Destiny-1, and Oryx (the villain) is dead still in Destiny-2.
ARK has an advantage though with it's lore.
They made up the Engramic-Matrix concept, and can expand more on it.
Our character does seem to have amnesia in ARK-2's store-page. So side-missions of trying to either remember, or hook ourselves into a leftover machine that still works that's from the ship, and tapping into our Engramic-Matrix could be a viable lore excuse.

wispy sierra
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well yeah in that case, it could be interesting

untold ingot
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I don't want to see ark2 turn into destiny 2 though 😭

stray elm
untold ingot
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I want to see ark2 be what ark1 had the potential of being, not some piggy back that tries to keep too much dead weight from ark1

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It's not a terrible idea, and it would be a cool tutorial type thing imo, but i wouldn't want something like that in the main game

stray elm
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If anything, could be a minor-DLC that's like 15$
No benefit gameplay-wise other then just more missions.

safe mural
untold ingot
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Yeah, I could see an overhaul similar to prim+, but being tek+

safe mural
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I hope ark 2 appears in extra life (which is likely)

stray elm
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I mostly like the idea of just recreating moments like the King-Titan fight, or Rockwell-Prime in UE5.

untold ingot
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Well, I am 80% sure some type of titan is coming back

stray elm
untold ingot
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I really would almost bet that the final boss is going to be a harder element spawned boss

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It would just make sense continuity wise

stray elm
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Sure, but element spawn doesn't 'have' to mean titans.
They could make it that titans are one in many different things corruption can make.

untold ingot
stray elm
untold ingot
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Was the king titan corrupted though?

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Corrupted as I understand is like mutated by element, and the titans were made by element. So are they actually technically corrupted?

stray elm
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Corruption creatures*
Meant to say that instead

stray elm
untold ingot
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And the corruption was just element injected into the environment? The element itself doest change

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Yeah, I am of the opinion that titans aren't corrupted, but rather created by the xenotoxin

stray elm
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Element is more like it's stationary, docile form.
I'd say a element-based lifeform is more akin to Rockwell injecting himself.
'Corruption' is element after something unknown happens for it to go rogue, and the black goop we see in Extinction.

stray elm
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I'm making it out probably more complicated as it is.
But basically, element is the docile stage of the xenotoxin, and can't directly corrupt creatures like we see in Extinction.
A unknown process happens (the use of tek-based stuff spreads its spores, but from what we know that wasn't the cause) for it to go corrupt.
But once it does, corruption starts to spread and is that black-goopy stuff.
Once it reaches this stage, it basically is now sentient and can create life if the air is polluted enough with corruption.

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Now, 'if' the cause of corruption was in fact also tied to the spores spreading. My issue with titans returning is that canonically, it took nearly a century of a fullscale global WW3 like war with tek-based technology for it to even start the corruption process.

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@untold ingot If you're still interested in talking.

blissful perch
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I dunno, I always thought the three titans were the biodome's proto "guardians", like the broodmother or megapithicus

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the idea is that the element cysts that are on them are from the earth/king titan and are the reason for their behavior...and that they'd normally not act in concert with the king titan

stray elm
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The element 'cysts' are their broadcasting radio to the King-Titan, which represents the entire hivemind of corruption.
Without said cysts, their connection to the hivemind is severed, and they serve the second closest thing to them

thorny tinsel
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souls like comabt

stray elm
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@blissful perch Just saw your reaction.
What's so confusing about that?

mighty lion
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I'm not opposed to rare giant fauna that trigger titan like boss fights.

soft steppe
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I thought king titan was the source of corruption

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Thats why you have to take him out so the arks can return to earth

untold totem
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No, killing the King Titan weakens the corruption

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But that is not enough to send the ARKs down tho

HD Helena's tampering is needed

soft steppe
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Yet the darkest shadows are the ones that were never truly alive to begin with, the ones born of the violet poison itself. Titanic manifestations of its ravenous hunger and endless hatred.

More than that, they are its avatars, made of its very essence. They carry pieces of the poison's collective consciousness, and they spread its influence. Destroying them would wound the poison itself.

untold totem
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Poetically ye

But that is about ARK 1

None of it matters in ARK 2 unless they want to bring that back

stray elm
blissful perch
stray elm
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And you can doubt all you want. But that's what Marc stated in his Reddit post. (given if his lore is still valid.)

untold totem
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No one has ever brought up Last Oasis' Hex Map system

Do you think that would be viable for ARK 2?

rustic hatch
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why are they only putting ark 2 on xbpx

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xbox

tropic crag
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Because exclusivity deal and also Sony hates it's players so they don't put many early access games on their platform, which Ark 2 will be

fast isle
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I hope it goes to ps4 fast

blissful perch
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Until PS4 becomes a next gen console…it won’t come to PS4 @fast isle

craggy dawn
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As a volunteer Admin who is completely decoupled from Wildcard, this is entirely speculation, but based on what Wildcard has publicly stated so far about the Xbox-exclusive console release, I'd expect that ARK 2 will eventually reach the Playstation Network, perhaps after Early Access has ended and the game enters official release.

But again, just speculating based on the information provided publicly thus far.

fallow niche
royal patio
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hi

ruby prism
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@fallow niche this would be the 7th time in the past 14 hours that I’ve reported server outage.

fallow niche
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Doesn't go in this channel, and you've already shared it in 2 others. Thanks.

royal patio
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I hope ark 2 will be for ps4 as well

fallow niche
royal patio
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if it comes to ps5 then that's just another game for my ps5 lineup

tropic crag
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Yeah, it will not be coming to previous gen consoles whatsoever, of that we can be sure.

royal patio
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if it does that would be cool

split dove
tropic crag
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Thank god

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BotW suffered because of that shit, I hate it when games are held back because of previous gen

mint swan
exotic river
tropic crag
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Unless the structure limit in within a reasonably defensible range, we also have no idea what we're going to have as far as defenses, and turrets (in the traditional sense) are kinda out of the question. There could be something like patrols of Aratai or humans you can task to defend your base with or without dinos, that don't count towards the structure limit, perhaps. Just brainstorming, though.

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Bases are going to be able to be generally bigger, as well. Or so they've said, don't know what size they're basing that off of, though 😅

mighty lion
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Yah the structure limit, especially for non pc players was way too low. It's an extreme multi hour endeavour to replace some thing in an area a few thousand over structure cap. It would be nice if the template building structure had a " fix all option" that ignored structure cap limitations

ocean tendon
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cries in trying to build a boat

lunar citrus
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It would be nice to be able to repair structures by pulling from nearby inventories

I think a structure limit is probably important for general performance reasons, but it should be on a per-server setting basis

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PVP servers can have more, small tribe/PVE servers can have less, etc

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assuming the building system even is a 1 to 1 recreation of the building we have in Ark 1. If the game has a different format (third person melee-focus) the kind of structures we build may be radically different than what we're used to

tropic crag
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Well, yeah, the building is definitely going to be different, but how much so we have very little idea of

mint swan
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Yo

south lance
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i cant imagine separation of pve and pvp balancing doesnt happen

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more than anything else

tropic crag
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I'd sure hope so, if not then the game will quickly suffer many a same problem that Ark 1 does, in my opinion, such as the unnecessary overnerfing of the Managarmr (at least from a PvE perspective)

untold ingot
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I mean, we might disagree that the mana was overnerfed lol. The early mana was way too op and easy to tame imo. It should have been significantly harder to tame

tropic crag
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That I can agree with, seeing as how it was originally supposed to be an egg steal tame

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But for PvE it was super overnerfed, good luck actually using a mana for the king titan lol

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Which was part of it's purpose, it's agility and use against him

untold ingot
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I mean, it cant do the boss, but it can do everything else. And one capped mana can definitely do the other bosses lol

tropic crag
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Google says otherwise, and that's before the second and third nerfs...

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The damage nerf I can understand, it was OP, I'll admit. But the movement? Unnecessary for PvE, did nothing but bad for PvE players

untold ingot
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I have done it, not for the alphas, but I beat the betas

untold ingot
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But only partially lol, you already know how I want the movement in ark to be nerfed lol

tropic crag
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It was supposed to be the last DLC, I don't see why it not being nerfed into the ground was such a big ask. But then, so was Gen 2, and they nerfed things there way too much as well, so 🤷‍♂️

untold ingot
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Gen2 dinos are still extremely op though

tropic crag
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I think that may have attributed to it's overnerfing, them deciding to do more DLCs

tropic crag
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Gotta take PvE into account, lol

untold ingot
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I dont know, but manas were the most broken dino ever released in ark imo. It took a lot to take them out of that spot

tropic crag
untold ingot
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It seemed taht with every dlc they had a few average ones, and one that was way broken

untold ingot
tropic crag
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I hope they split the modes, as stated earlier. If they don't it'll be a shit show

untold ingot
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I dont have a strong opinion either way. Not everything has to be one or the other. Pve being good doesnt really depend on pvp, and visa versa

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I am more thinking on having less useless variety. There is so much in the game that just never gets used for anything

tropic crag
tropic crag
untold ingot
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I mean, if something is op for pvp, it is generally op for pve too

tropic crag
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PvE ≠ PvP, the same things that are OP in PvP are usually not in PvE lol

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Like the astros and the mana's movement

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I mean, hell, even the titans and titanosaur have no use besides their intended one, to fight the king titan

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Beyond that, they're just flex tames

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I could go on

untold ingot
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Astros and manas were extremely op for pve too. I just kind of dont want to have the same arguement over again lol

tropic crag
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How were they OP for PvE?

untold ingot
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Wh have different opinions on it, and thats okay

tropic crag
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I genuinely would like to know how manas being able to jump an extra few times before landing was OP for PvE, no joke

untold ingot
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I just want to see less of a gap between op and normal is all

tropic crag
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Question: dodged...

untold ingot
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Well, movement speed is op. With a mana you can move anywhere and then toss a giga out. That is very op imo

stray elm
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Y'all wanna go to Snurch with me?

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You questioning me, Brucey boi?

tropic crag
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No idea wtf that means

stray elm
tropic crag
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Sure

stray elm
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Snurch

tropic crag
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Hmmmmmm

stray elm
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Soooo?

tropic crag
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For a second there I was legit thinking it meant like snail church or some shit and uh sure enough

stray elm
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Snarpen my Snife

tropic crag
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I'll take a rain check on that one

mint swan
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do you guys think its gonna be similar/almost the same? or there will be new features in gathering and crafting(aside from every aspect of game being somewhat upgraded from ark1) ? i mean something like alchemy , more plants variety , maybe our garden needs to be more than 5 crop plots for each of the 4 veggies...? Maybe some more rock variety , gems and all? Maybe there will be trading with the npcs? thatd be cool! Instead of having like 10 trex to kill em , maybe some are more peacefull and we can trade with em?

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maybe theyr inventory refreshes , and if theres more richer players who come to grab all from their shops , it will be something like supply drops, first come first served untill they refresh inventory

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theres a bunch of potions and stuff we can do in the cooking pot in ark1... maybe there will be alchemist pot or something in ark2?

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would be rly cool if we can make several potions and such for dinos , like the mushroom brew from abberation

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cant wait for ark2 rly

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hope they make it less simple and more... 2023?

mint swan
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a bunch of new stuff, way more complex, way better graphics, way better everything, and they gonna set themselfs up alot better in terms of updating the game.
but the biggest question tho, are they gonna hire new people? so that they can optimise and fix faster. thats gonna be the make or break of this game for the majority

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but it would be nice with an announcement channel here on discord for ark 2 tho so we could follow it abit better

tropic crag
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This is the announcement channel, if they announce something for Ark 2, it'll be here.

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And yes they are hiring, actually

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Last I checked anyways

prisma pike
mint swan
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i mean the focal chili in ark 1 which doubles ur speed is pretty cool

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and chowder for much oxygen too

prisma pike
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Okay? That's a consumable buff that almost every survival game has in some way.

tropic crag
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They posted about it like a month back, seemed pretty important

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Mighta been longer idk

blissful perch
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@untold ingot I think the mana nerfs were good for PvE and PvP like you said, but the biggest reason I want to see split balance is for stuff like structure placement or even certain QoL that works in PvE but can lead to exploits in PvP (like many of the S+ features)

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@tropic crag manas needed a nerf in PvE. When you ask “why use anything else as a solo mount, since everything else is worse” it’s usually time to nerf

mint swan
frozen ice
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Why not just buff everything else 🤪

cosmic carbon
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is their gonna be pvp???

frail fable
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I just hope it brings back that pre-tek feeling of 2015-2016 those were magical times

mint swan
# frail fable I just hope it brings back that pre-tek feeling of 2015-2016 those were magical ...

by the looks of it , it should be something like primitive plus , since the whole game is in third person , would imply any ranged weapons would be aimbotting cus of the third person... so i guess the only weapons we will have will be melee weapons
but they did say we can upgrade them in a million combinations + they said there is many active skills , so it would be like primitive + but extra fun combat cus of the many active skills and so on... imagine battles between experienced players who are fully geared and have all or many active skills (maybe there are dodging skills or abilities too) and then that would be some super epic battles

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if they make another survival of the fittest but in ark2 i think its gonna be super awesome and epic cus of the combat , they said theyll make dino AI more inteligent so maybe all/most tames will be very usefull in different ways , not having to get lvl 150 rex cus it has highest dmg

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pvp in general will be more awesome , and it would be based more on tames than on building a million turrets... but again... maybe breeding will be similar to farming turrets which wouldnt make the game as fun especially if a person breeds like 200 or 300 super OP and mutated rexes or gigas (in ark1 i think the dino limit is 200 or 300)

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and if the AI is advanced enough , i dont think you could kite them to their death anymore , they would probably lose interest in you or smth and return quickly back to defend the base

ripe marsh
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since the whole game is in third person, would imply any ranged weapons would be aimbotting cus of the third person
That's one hell of an assumption. A really terrible one too.

frail fable
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Genuinely believe that the third person thing will be changed sooner or later I cannot believe that a lot of people want to play third person only not being able to switch to first person

lime forge
untold ingot
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I doubt that ranged weapons will have a locking system

frail fable
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The locking system is probably meant as in GTA wherein you had a lock on someone in a hand to hand combat and only then, with punches being directed to them and an expanded blocking and dpdging system. I assume it will be similar to that just expanded on it

ocean tendon
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locking system on ranged weapons would be fine so long as they arnt hitscan

untold ingot
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Yeah, nah lol.

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For ranged weapons any lockon is basically aimbot. If they have that I won't even play one day of pvp lol

tropic crag
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Debatable, there's games that have ranged lock on done where it isn't straight up aimbot, they give it some sway and sometimes skills or perks make the sway lessened and such. The ones that have aimbot lock on aren't usually multiplayer survivalcraft games, either 😂

untold ingot
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I haven't heard of any with that actually having a good pvp scene

ocean tendon
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if its gonna be soulslike i imagine the pvp will be similar

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bloodborne pvp is great

tropic crag
tropic crag
# ocean tendon if its gonna be soulslike i imagine the pvp will be similar

It's so weird, I swear no one else here has actually PvP'd in a souls game. The PvP scene is probably one of the greatest/biggest out of all the non-shooter videogames, and whenever I bring it up here they're always like "the balancing is trash, souls games suck, there's only like two attacks" and they couldn't be more wrong

stray elm
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I love the PvP in souls-games, but they can be hella unbalanced.

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The issue in Souls-games is that there's no level-balancing in PvP.
A max-level player with OP gear can invade a Level-5 player with starter gear.
I always thought it should be more like "if you're invading a world, you can only invade people around your level."

tropic crag
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High level gameplay isn't indicative of game balance, just fyi. If someone is running around with 99 in all stats, they are the exception, not the rule. And... they are like that? You can't just invade a level 5 when you're level 50-10000, lol

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So my point stands

potent hull
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i am ark jk hi

tropic crag
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death blades, long time no see! How you been?

potent hull
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good

tropic crag
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Good to hear

potent hull
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whating for new ark up and ark 2 to com out

tropic crag
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Aren't we all, lol

potent hull
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i her ark gating a new big up date i do not no wan it is

tropic crag
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I don't know about a big update per se, but I know we're getting the Switch update at some point, and then hopefully the Carcharodontosaurus not long after, maybe even in the same update (fingers crossed🤞)

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I guess it's kinda a big deal though, what with the Scorched ascension and all

potent hull
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i her xp note are going to be voice over by the actors from the ark anime

tropic crag
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Yeah, that's true

potent hull
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i my start a new guy on first map

tropic crag
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A fresh playthrough might be a good idea, just to hear all the notes and get hype for the show lol

potent hull
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all sow a new in trow to ark i her to on 1 map

tropic crag
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I think all the story based maps are getting one

potent hull
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i hop i can start over this time ascend off the first map my old guy did not

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jut whating for the up date then bam new guy

tropic crag
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For sure

blissful perch
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If anything camera lock is mostly going to allow melee combat to feel less jank, since pivoting your model can be annoying in third person without it for some folks

stray elm
tropic crag
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The original is old as balls, that's why lol. Almost every one besides that one (even the remake, iirc) has levelled instancing for PvP

tropic crag
stray elm
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True

wintry cape
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Ark 2 is being managed by Grove Street Games? lmao. Did anyone notice how the GTA remasters turned out? 💩

tropic crag
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No, it isn't. They're working with them though, and the GTA remasters were bad because of the AI generated textures that weren't true to the original and the fact that Rockstar wanted it out asap, not their fault it wasn't done yet. Do your research and don't just come in here trying to start a flame war, lmao

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Just look at the work they've done on the Switch version of Ark 1, impressive in my book, to say the least

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Not to mention the porting of Ark to mobile, which is near impossible for most games to boast of these days

stray elm
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They're also doing the Scorched ascension, and that looks good

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Which, if that's like a small sub-team of people within Grove-Street working on that. I wonder if they'll do anything else for the later maps. ThinkBlue

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Would feel weird to have a story-based intro for The Island, then not get anything else till Genesis-1

tropic crag
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True, not like it's the whole company making the Switch version, forgot about that

tropic crag
stray elm
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Yep, they're seperating into different fields.
We got the coding team, the cinematic team, and the ARK-2 team

stray elm
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"A new 'island' intro" is what they said, I believe.

tropic crag
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Uhhhhh, hang on a sec, lemme find the vid

stray elm
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If you can prove me wrong, I'd love that.

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Imagine a version of The-Islands new intro on Aberration, but it's Rockwell talking and taunting you instead.

spiral jolt
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if all maps have intros one of them has to have a explosion

stray elm
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Explosion?

spiral jolt
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boom kabewm and booosssshhhh

stray elm
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Leave that for Rockwell-Prime

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Btw Bruce, if you're thinking of "new story cutscenes to conclude each ARK map" we have to remember this is for also the Switch. So it would be 'new cutscenes' to conclude.

tropic crag
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Hang on, watching the interview real quick

fallow niche
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Y'all switch it back to ark 2 while you're at it

rustic oxide
mighty lion
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What do you think the first map will be called? If we are doing maps

stray elm
mighty lion
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Just the whole planet?

stray elm
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Nah, we get Arat 1, Arat 2, Arat 3

mighty lion
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Arat 1, Arat 2: back in action, Arat 3: Arat a tat tat.. I could see it

frail fable
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Probably gonna be split into chapters of a continuing story and you get the map as mp map for free roam like in gta and gta online or rd2

stray elm
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I'm more imagining what they did in Genesis-2

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Open-world is purely for online-game, with missions being for either another form of grinding and story-telling

blissful perch
split dove
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North-Arat/Aratia SantiagoScowl

dry flame
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Pft. I'm already past Ark 2 and 3 and waiting on Ark 4 -- a Stray-clone in which you play as an otter in the new human colonies, attempting to sort out what happened after they all Disappear For Some Reason™.

It'll only have 20 hours of gameplay, but there will be people with thousands of hours.

Starring Ryan Reynolds as the otter, Vin Diesel as the protagonist's streetwise, family-oriented, muscle-tee-rockin' Vin Dodo, and the exact same Tek ATV we have now with all it bugs and charm.

blissful perch
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James Earl Jones will be resurrected to voice act for Mufasa the shadowmane

dry flame
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Nah, we can do JEJ with AI now!

blissful perch
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His voice will be resurrected, good correction

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Hand puppets will be made entirely out of lystro hides and salt cured by the PvP community’s tears

ripe cedar
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Its really almost been 2 years since the announcement

gentle night
ionic meteor
ripe cedar
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I just want to see some gameplay :(

ionic meteor
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There's a likely chance we'll see a gameplay reveal at the extra life event

south lance
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just2 more months

tropic crag
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"Can you believe it guys? Extralife, just a week away! Extralife is in a week! Woo-hoo! I am so happy about this information. Extralife, just a week away. Oh, wow! Can you believe it? Extralife, just in a week! It got here so fast. Extralife, just a-"

deft saddle
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LMAO

stray elm
tropic crag
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Do you get it now?

stray elm
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No.
I'm too dumb to understand

muted oar
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cant lie im new to ark but ima have to get ark 2

tropic crag
fallow niche
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Keep it ark2 and don't circumvent the filter to post links.

stray elm
gloomy torrent
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I wonder what they'll do with aquatic creatures in Ark 2.

stray elm
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Probably something with water

tropic crag
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You right

oblique frost
# gloomy torrent I wonder what they'll do with aquatic creatures in Ark 2.

I'd be really into them saving them for a DLC and making oceans like Atlas (but with an ecosystem) rather than half arsing it like Ark 1 did.

But then, I'm also hoping they take a similar stitched servers approach to Atlas for Ark 2 (on a far smaller and more detailed scale), like have base game all land connected but then separate the dlc maps onto other continents that you sail across the ocean to travel to.

untold totem
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Mmm more lag Gen 1 ocean is almost unplayable because of that

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I recently played on an ATLAS server that isn't heavily modded and I feel the huge lag from the spawn rates a kin to ARK's even without structures

Sometimes I enjoy having less spawns and makes finding dinos more enjoyable and worth it

frail fable
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Idk man since this is probs gonna stay primitive going into water would be kinda weird since no diving suit, maaaybe with a potion or something but still I wouldnt assume too much underwater, especially with the trailer showing basically no water

blissful perch
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shallow 👏 seaways 👏

ocean tendon
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no oceans only lakes and rivers

lime forge
untold totem
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Even if so, the issue with that is tame spawn population density

Regardless if it's land or water

lime forge
untold totem
frail fable
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if thats the only way to breath under water it would still be useless to tame anything else really and water would still stay barely usable anyway

lime forge
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Maybe a shoulder pet that stores oxygen?

untold totem
frail fable
lime forge
frail fable
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there was actually more shown in the trailers ._.

lime forge
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Like what?

blissful perch
frail fable
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The overview at the end of the announcement for example?

blissful perch
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True, I’d hardly call that a jungle

frail fable
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the only things with water atleast from what ive seen were there and it was rivers and maybe a swamp in the distance

lime forge
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So we’re gonna have a jungle biome, and a floating rock with jungle trees on top biome.

frail fable
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you clearly do not posses eyes

lime forge
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Also. Where’s all the water falling from the floating rocks going?

frail fable
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hardly an ocean

lime forge
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How do you know?

frail fable
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because we can see where the water flows down in the ARK 2 Trailer at second 50

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and that seems to be a lake if I see that correctly but its in the background

lime forge
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I think you’re letting your imagination fill in to many blanks with the limited amount of information given from the trailers.

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But hey. We’ve got just as much information saying there will be oceans as we have saying there won’t.

frigid rock
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Didnt all the other games with vin diesel in them flop?

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I mean is this just a way to kill the franchise to move on to something else.....lol

lime forge
frail fable
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dont think one has to do with the other

frigid rock
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I wont hold my breathe

lime forge
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No one is expecting you to.

winged dome
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VinnyD being a character in Ark2 isn't really a selling point for me personally

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If the game looks good, I'm getting it.
If it doesn't ... I'll probably still get it but that's what Steam Refunds are for 😂

mortal kestrel
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I'd be surprised if arkII lacked an ocean in at least some shape or form

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as for vindiago... meh

the attention he draws to the game is cool, but its not really a make or break selling point for me, thats more the parkour arkII will have and the combat and build changes... rather, the system changes in general

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if the game is good, then it will be good

if the game is bad, then it will be bad regardless of if vindiago is in it or not

blissful perch
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gonna assume you mean "gameplay", since by definition...if the game is good the game is good :p

mortal kestrel
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no, I mean the game as a whole

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some games can be good even if the gameplay necessarily isnt

blissful perch
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doubt

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The gameplay can be simple, and good takes many forms, but a bad game is a bad game

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I assume you mean a bad game can still be fun, much like a bad movie can be fun?

mortal kestrel
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a game isnt always about gameplay

winged dome
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Trying to think of a good game with bad gameplay...

ripe marsh
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prob mediocre gameplay with amazing story/lore is what I assume they mean

mortal kestrel
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there are plenty that are story driven too (which ark pseudo is)

and story driven games tend to focus more on the story (duh) than the gameplay

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most ubisoft games are examples of this ^

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if you've played one ubisoft game, then you've played them all, and thats not even an exaggeration

tropic crag
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So maybe take the unwanted and unasked for Vin Diesel hate somewhere else, at least until you do your own research 😏

versed mountain
winged dome
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Only played the first, and I remember it being alright. Not amazing but passable

blissful perch
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I loved playing “In Other Waters”, and while the gameplay wasn’t complex or particularly difficult, it was extremely well suited to the storytelling the game sought to provide

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In essence…it was good lol

mortal kestrel
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tbh I'd argue horizon zero dawns gameplay was pretty bad too

to be clear, the combat itself wasnt necessarily bad, exploitable machine ai aside, but your objectives... the game didnt do anything new, same old dungeons (cauldrons, in this case), your standard bandit camps... just, nothing really all that special

ionic meteor
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it just gives heavy horizon vibes and i feel like it might work

blissful perch
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I thought horizon zero dawn had fantastic scrappy gameplay

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If what you seek from gameplay is an endless series of stacking gimmicks…there are many games that do that well and those that do it poorly

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“Good gameplay” again can take many forms, and is different from game design. Gameplay is the feeling of actually using game mechanics

mortal kestrel
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and yeah, I guess it would be how the game is designed that I have a more overall problem with

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I love fast paced melee combat, which is hard to find honestly

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everything these days is just "guns this" and "guns that"

ionic meteor
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Now i understand why they went with third person only, horizon zero dawn worked as a third person game and so will ark 2

blissful perch
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Horizon Zero dawn also worked excellently because it was a singleplayer game

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the coyote time ranged weakspot combat and weaponry straight up can't work in multiplayer. I hope ark 2 more closely mirrors souls or monster hunter

blissful perch
steel sluice
austere zephyr
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When’s next news suppose to come

split dove
past wind
fallow niche
past wind
onyx trellis
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I am highly doubting Ark 2 will have mediocre gameplay, im predicting a good combat system. All we can do it hope the devs are making a truly amazing game on unreal engine 5, even tho us PS5 players won't get it for a while

stray elm
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To be honest, their company kind of depends on ARK-2 succeeding.

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I have no worry of the gameplay itself.
My worry is how fun the gameplay 'loop' will be, and if we're still going to be in the stone-age 7 years from now

untold ingot
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I mean, there is no guarantee that ark2 will last another 7 years. They could already have the whole story mapped out and have 3 dlc, then go to ark3 or something

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But I mean, the main character is still Bob, the guy beats up bug and suddenly knows how to make futuristic technology

ocean tendon
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ark 2 gonna live forever, like destiny 2

stray elm
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Wildcard has nowhere as much funding, nor developers to pull stuff like CoD does and have yearly releases with major games. frog_SPEEN

elfin pumice
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will ark 2 be in ps4?

split dove
elfin pumice
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i also thought that but I've seen websites where you can boy it on ps4 when it comes out

solid breach
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ark 2 will die. wildcard will realise this and probably return to ark 1

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thats what my 3rd eye tells me

untold totem
solid breach
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but i hope for the ending where wildcard returns to ark 1

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without bankrupt

untold totem
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less likely to happen

solid breach
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i can always hope

untold totem
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they bleed money by trying to "fix the game" instead on making a new game from scratch with possible failsafes

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since ATLAS is gonna "upgrade the game" to UE5, this is their attempt of a "fix the game" this will inherently break current mods but if it does succeed with mods and DLCs easily port over then "Fix the game" is plaussible

lime forge
blissful perch
blissful perch
untold totem
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yes #CutOfficial

solid breach
blissful perch
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I suspect they will for a while after ark 2 anyway, and then slowly cull official servers over the next few years

wispy sierra
blissful perch
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What’s nice about ark is that you can always do unofficial after official is gone

blissful perch
wispy sierra
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tru

ripe cedar
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I really dont see ark 1 as a lifeline

untold totem
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I don't even see how they made profit from the official server without any form of MTX

Usually they get funds from the Games, DLCs, and Server Providers (maybe)

ripe cedar
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Well the servers are part of the game, its intended as a multiplayer game so having official server lets people play the game as it was intended

blissful perch
untold totem
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People can recreate that feeling in unofficial complete with Evo and Event triggers

blissful perch
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If ark 2 fails, investment can move to ark 1 if required to savage funding

jaunty matrix
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thats the last thing we want

blissful perch
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Agreed completely

untold ingot
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The biggest thing then is to make sure ark2 doesn't fail then lol

blissful perch
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But something I don’t want can always happen lol

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I don’t WANT to be working right now, but I have to 😂

jaunty matrix
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tbh idc about anything in ark 2 beside non dedicated sessions

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cause they are so buggy and its so hard to make a server just for you and ur friends

untold ingot
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Hopefully nondedicated servers will be a bit more stable

jaunty matrix
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yeah

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today me and my friend couldnt play the whole day because of connection host error

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its so weird

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cause it only happens sometimes

blissful perch
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Tbh they should have a separate system for handling non dedicated sessions like they do for ark 1

ripe cedar
blissful perch
untold ingot
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Yeah, the main issue is that ark wasn't made to be played single player, so it wasn't optimized for that from the start.

blissful perch
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Unless you think atlas is more a fallback than ark 1 😂

untold ingot
blissful perch
ripe cedar
jaunty matrix
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it would be much better if they could make it much easier to make servers

blissful perch
untold ingot
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I mean, they could take arks base code, and slap it into an entirely new genre of game if it doesn't work out

blissful perch
untold ingot
jaunty matrix
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yeah

untold ingot
untold totem
ripe cedar
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Also they have made ark 1 free numerous times the ampunt of people who are interested already should have the game and i doubt there are many who dont know about it because of how long its been out and popular its been

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So i dont see how it is a financial fallback

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Especially if they are to release more free maps

untold ingot
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They could release a new paid dlc for ark1

jaunty matrix
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nah

ripe cedar
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Thats probably harder than just trying to fix ark 2

jaunty matrix
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im coolin

untold ingot
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Maybe lol, but it's a possibility

blissful perch
untold ingot
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Honestly though, I don't see ark 2 failing

blissful perch
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Especially since the market of new gamers is large

untold totem
jaunty matrix
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depends on release time for the sucsess tbh

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they cant release in august to december

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all the big names come out then

untold ingot
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I mean, they made scorched to stay afloat. They could add a non story paid dlc if it is absolutely necessary. But yeah, I envision that being more an ark2 thing

untold ingot
jaunty matrix
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not saying ark 2 isnt a big name but games like fifa, 2k, and cod have a really loyal fanbase

untold totem
jaunty matrix
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sometimes they jus get bored in the months before

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and find ark

untold ingot
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I would bet everyone of the 100k consistent players would buy ark2 before a new cod or something lol

blissful perch
#

Ark is large enough to compete with the big release seasons

untold ingot
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It's got a different audience too

jaunty matrix
#

100%

split dove
blissful perch
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If this were a small indie game I 100% would agree, but this is no longer a small game. It may be one of the largest indie games out there

jaunty matrix
#

the new cod looks really good

untold ingot
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I am never buying a new cod lol

jaunty matrix
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i usally just play the betas when they come out for the weeks before release

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never pay for the game unless my friend buys and i gameshare

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no point on buying cod on pc tbh

untold ingot
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Imo it's time for cod to die and let better games come along lol

jaunty matrix
#

it wont die because of how loyal the fanbase is

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for a long time atleast

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they would have to destroy all the games they release in the last 3 years

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then make the game they release unplayable

untold ingot
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Nostalgia is keeping a subpar game alive as far as I can see lol

jaunty matrix
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because when the new cod is bad they just go back to the older ones till they play a good one (mw 2019)

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whats been happening for ages with cod

blissful perch
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I’m gonna go with a “who cares” approach

jaunty matrix
#

flygon

blissful perch
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People watch baseball, and it’s so boring I crave any sort of visual stimulation

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Let people have their repeatable COD purchases

untold ingot
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Well, I just hope ark2 doesn't take the same approach. I don't want to see a total reskin of ark1.

blissful perch
jaunty matrix
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hundred

untold ingot
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Imo that's the only thing that'll wreck it

jaunty matrix
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there should be a mega flygon

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it wouldve been so cool

untold ingot
split dove
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''b bbut my autoclicker combat, i don't want skill based combat''

blissful perch
jaunty matrix
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if warzone 2 is good then cod is staying on the market for a lot of time

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people love wz2

blissful perch
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Flooding is what EA does with 2000 10$ DLCs

lunar finch
#

Remember to stay on track in this channel. 😛

blissful perch
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Now this is relevant to ark 2 because we don’t want to see WC do this

jaunty matrix
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my fault og

untold totem
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lol

blissful perch
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THIS CHANNEL IS MINE!! We will talk about game design and our expectations for WC releasing ark 2 in the market!!!

jaunty matrix
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i feel like cod has been printed into peoples mind tho

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everyone knows when the releases are

blissful perch
#

Same way mario has

jaunty matrix
#

you dont even need to play the game

blissful perch
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Or Pokémon for that matter

jaunty matrix
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yeah but pokemon is not mid

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beside brilliant diamond, i didnt really like that one

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like the new ones

blissful perch
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laughs in sun and moon

jaunty matrix
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sw and sh was rlly good

untold totem
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Ahem

jaunty matrix
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go on]

blissful perch
untold totem
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Mam, this is not GameStop Recommendations Chat

blissful perch
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People who reee and lose their minds because their favorite irrelevant tame didn’t make it in

untold totem
#

M o d s e x I s t

blissful perch
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Can you imagine the salt if gigas get cut? I’m already praying just so I can watch

jaunty matrix
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if theres still no acrocanthosaurus i might have to riot

blissful perch
jaunty matrix
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gigas are cool but if they remove dodos imagine the outcry

untold totem
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I know

untold totem
jaunty matrix
#

acros are a real dinosaur tho

untold totem
jaunty matrix
#

hypothetical

blissful perch
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Mazzy doesn’t work well with those

untold totem
jaunty matrix
#

is there a roster

blissful perch
jaunty matrix
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where can i find the roster

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oh

untold totem
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I rather have a reduced roster than a over bloated one at start

Especially with spawns also contribute to server lag even without builds

And the typical issue of "useless dinos"

jaunty matrix
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yeah

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most dinosaurs become useless after day 50

blissful perch
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What I’d love is regular wipes on half the servers and not on the other

jaunty matrix
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after then im only using dodic, anky, rex for breed and bosses, thyla for cave, basi for cave

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and i guess the beaver

blissful perch
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Since that way early game creatures can shine each wipe

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It’s really sad to see early game creatures that are really cool never get any attention because the official clusters “age” and early game only happens once

jaunty matrix
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moschops never stops being reliable tho 💯

untold totem
#

After I played ATLAS close to Vanilla and been with Ned's Normality Map made more realize how spawns do contribute to the lag not just the tames

blissful perch
#

I just opened genesis 1

split dove
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ocean biome floods my game with lag

jaunty matrix
#

they should just reduce spawns after a certain point in the game then

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like after taming 25% of the dinosaurs in the game

untold totem
#

Gen 1 ocean proved my point where you have to choose between more dino variety but less spawn or more spawns but less dino variety

untold totem
jaunty matrix
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i just breed halfway across the map from my base

untold totem
#

That is just you but I am talking about multiplayer

jaunty matrix
#

pve and pvp

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yeah

blissful perch
#

“Active” Tame counts across the board have to decline

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It’s a massive source of lag, and will only get worse as tames get more complex

jaunty matrix
#

make it possible to breed in cryos

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but thats not cool

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but pvp players dont care about cool

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they just want to take peoples metal and stuff

blissful perch
#

The simple answer yes is to convert most tames to a UI (cryofridge etc etc)

untold totem
jaunty matrix
#

have a breed limit

blissful perch
#

Ignoring the obvious statement above, yes you can make a UI that holds most player’s tames

split dove
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no stat mutations

jaunty matrix
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like the males pp gets tired

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surely

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after like 30

blissful perch
#

No stat mutations is also a good move to avoid pressuring players to spam breed

jaunty matrix
#

yeha

untold totem
blissful perch
#

You could also change how tame combat works so it’s worthwhile to invest in a single tame rather than in tons of babies

jaunty matrix
#

just have low chances to find really high level dinosaurs in the wild. it encourages more pvp

blissful perch
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Some games have “killing” a tame/companion/familiar simply put it on a long cooldown instead of permanently removing it

jaunty matrix
#

is lots of pvp not good

blissful perch
#

Lots of PvP is good, but lots of RNG is poo

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You can do the same thing with fewer spawns

untold totem
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RNG sucks that is why I am fully against stat mutation breeding

jaunty matrix
#

have like 1 good stat dino spawn every 3 hours or something like that

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no rng

blissful perch
#

You need some RNG or a game’s longevity suffers

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But mutations and scouring the map for high level tames is not it

jaunty matrix
#

make more bosses

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mini bosses

blissful perch
untold totem
jaunty matrix
#

oh yeah

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cause it could spawn right next to alphas base

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now you have no chance to get it

blissful perch
jaunty matrix
#

fortnite does it

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new gun like every week

blissful perch
#

It’s pretty easy to make a gun

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It’s really hard to make an ark creature

untold totem
#

Ye but Fortnite is a test game for UE

They can afford slap some updates with events

jaunty matrix
#

then just add a gun every week to ark

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joke

blissful perch
#

I’m sure the PvP community approves RexFingerGuns

untold totem
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Guns but it's more skin than function lmao

jaunty matrix
#

but i did feel like there was a lack of weapons at the end of pvp

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from what ive seen

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nobody uses cannons 😔

untold totem
#

I mean ARK is a "dinosaur game" not a gun game

blissful perch
#

Viability of ark 1 engrams is a big sticking point to me

jaunty matrix
#

what if they removed the engram system and just had a leveling system

untold totem
jaunty matrix
#

so its rng for bps

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but no ascendant

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add upgrade stations

untold totem
blissful perch
#

I think knowledge points should play into this too

jaunty matrix
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like the destiny 2 crafting system

blissful perch
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Knowledge points unlock certain aspects of crafting and blueprints. Remember, it’s modular

split dove
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i'll say it again, replace blueprints and tiers with the upcomming component based crafting system to increase stats with various materials

blissful perch
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So knowledge points could be required to use certain materials or make certain modules

jaunty matrix
#

base weapon

untold totem
jaunty matrix
#

then in the upgrade stations you add stuff like perks and stuff

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that you unlock by doing things

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like gen 1 missions but no as annoying

split dove
blissful perch
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Not at all what’s being proposed I don’t think

jaunty matrix
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like for example kill 50 therizinosaurs and now youve unlocked extra melee damage

blissful perch
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I think each weapon is MADE UP OF components and modules

jaunty matrix
#

thigns that make sense

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kill lots of scorpions and get a poision effect

blissful perch
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For example a spear is made of a shaft and a spear head, and each one can be made of different materials, which effect weapon stats

jaunty matrix
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narcotic spear

blissful perch
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Sure. But it won’t be slapping upgrades onto a finished spear I don’t think

jaunty matrix
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find like a stick

untold totem
#

Achievement skills are interesting in theory but that may depends if there is someway people will abuse/cheese it

jaunty matrix
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then find a spear head

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add the therizino powder and scorpion powder

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extra damage + poision spear

blissful perch
blissful perch
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You don’t spank random powders on stuff to upgrade it

untold totem
jaunty matrix
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isnt ark 2 more melee oriantated tho

blissful perch
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In principle, yes it’s the same concept as different arrow heads

jaunty matrix
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different swings maybe

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like the warframe system

blissful perch
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I’m gonna say there’s a 0% chance we don’t see a bow

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Who knows how it’ll work, but I can’t imagine we’ll be primitive without one lol

jaunty matrix
#

you add things for a different air attack

untold totem
jaunty matrix
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some do more speed less dmg or less speed more dmg

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i just hope melee is usefull for more of the game

blissful perch
jaunty matrix
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melee damage is the least usefull upgrade in the game pvp and pve

blissful perch
#

I’m tired of you mischaracterizing that Mazzy grimacing

blissful perch
untold totem
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Italics mean sarcasm... You should knew it by now lol

blissful perch
#

Other chatters don’t know that. And it’s not always in italics

jaunty matrix
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oxygen is alright i guess if you go swimming

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without scuba

blissful perch
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Melee effects harvest amount, so it’s not useless

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I suppose the most useless is food and water

jaunty matrix
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thats for dinos

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i mean player melee

blissful perch
jaunty matrix
#

nobodies farming with a player after 2 hours of playtime

untold totem
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Who they fuck thinks "bonk taming" is useless

How dare ye

blissful perch
ripe cedar
split dove
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beach bobs with clubs tend to disagree with it being useless

jaunty matrix
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clubs are deadly

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i tamed a thyla with a club once

split dove
jaunty matrix
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club fidget spinner

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kylo ren lighstaber but its just clubs

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and you add scorpion powder

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and therizino powder

untold totem
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For one thing I would love to see like base grade weapons brittle easy until you get upgrades for damage and dura

jaunty matrix
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boom

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explosive arrows

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gunpowder + arrow

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boom

split dove
jaunty matrix
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idk how people play official

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its so boring

blissful perch
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I hate low durability weapons

jaunty matrix
#

just play the most populated unoficcial

untold totem
split dove
blissful perch
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“Wow this mechanics based combat is so cool!” “JK my weapon broke so now I have to grind mats and avoid combat”

ripe cedar
jaunty matrix
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bam server

ripe cedar
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Thats xbox only

jaunty matrix
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and windows

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natural cauzes servers are rlly fun too

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but heavy mod

untold totem
#

This is not Server Suggestions Chat

untold totem
ripe cedar
#

Anyway dynamic water systems and having to worry about water sources drying up will be interesting but probably annoying to most people

jaunty matrix
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just make the whole world mineable

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like minecraft

ripe cedar
blissful perch
untold totem
blissful perch
jaunty matrix
#

pokemon dino to dino combo

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combat

ripe cedar
jaunty matrix
#

wtf is atlas

ripe cedar
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But havibg those as options maybe

untold totem
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We are not in the ARKs anymore

ripe cedar
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He doesnt know 😳

jaunty matrix
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everytime you say it i think of the warframe character

untold totem
ripe cedar
jaunty matrix
blissful perch
ripe cedar
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And they said no super realistic survival i assume you can drink most water straight from river without getting mega diarhea

untold totem
split dove
jaunty matrix
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free pee

untold totem
jaunty matrix
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mumbai water 😋

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(unfiltered expecially)

ripe cedar
# untold totem Who knows the water is undrinkable to humans

If element is anything like radioactive materials last thing you want is to injest it so if the water is really bad either native life adapted to whatever toxic materials are in the water somehow which is in the water, there is a dangerous virus or element is in it and i dont think anything wants to eat/drink/breath that

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I think its just gonna be water though

blissful perch
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“Toxic” is a term that only holds meaning to whatever life interacts with it

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Toxic to us can be ideal living conditions for another organism

ripe cedar
#

Toxic to us but not natives

untold totem
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Basically

ripe cedar
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Since obviously they evolved around it

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Otherwise they would be dead

blissful perch
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Since we see so much heckin earth plant life there’s no way it’s not water 😂

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One day the world will realize alien planets need not earth plant life…so many “alien planets” of pine and palm trees 😂

untold totem
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Low key want to have a buildable filter or rain catcher

ripe cedar
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There could be like an element meter where if you eat to much element you start getting debuffs since exploding a ship from element not to far away and also crashing another part onto the surface near where you are living cant be good

blissful perch
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Gonna go ahead and hold X on that one

ripe cedar
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Its just gonna be in everything to some degree

blissful perch
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Since it sounds like ark 2 isn’t getting much more intense on the survival front than ark 1

untold totem
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The ship exploded on a planet, not on the jungle moon

blissful perch
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So I’m guessing what we’ll see is basic food water temperature and maybe a hazardous environmental condition

ripe cedar
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And even then that still leaves eden ring

blissful perch
untold totem
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If the planet and the moon is that close to have ship debris fall on that moon then everyone and everything in that moon is f u c k e d

ripe cedar
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The skybox may not rely on physics

blissful perch
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I suspect there is no “space”box in ark 2

untold totem
ripe cedar
untold totem
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I hope they pull off the Ext skybox where beyond that is too hot to thrive in

ripe cedar
#

Anyway time to pick another random topic we have talked about before and make similar reasonings to last time we talked about it

ripe cedar
untold totem
#

We pretty much talked about every possible gameplay guesses

ripe cedar
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And we still have a month left until extra life

untold totem
blissful perch
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Lore talks make me pass out. So boring lol

untold totem
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Show me lore, not tell

ripe cedar
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Unfortunately game or show not out yet

blissful perch
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World building is critical to good immersion, I won’t disagree

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But sometimes I do want someone to tell me something lol. Especially if they want me to know something so they can build up a story…I hate guessing what the plot of a game is

stray elm
blissful perch
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Not for many annual releases

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For ark perhaps, but that's also evident in the much faster development cycle of DLC versus Ark 2. I suspect COD games are not following the same timeline because they are making fewer fundamental engine changes and are instead using previous code bases

lime forge
stray elm
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The point is that Wildcard doesn't have the employees to make a whole new game from the ground-up, and all of the DLC's for it before it even releases.
They might have them conceptually already planned out, but an actual working product of the base-game and all DLC's? I doubt it.

tropic crag
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Well duh

stray elm
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This pains me

past wind
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It’s not really up to WC

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It all depends on how players will receive it

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If in 5 years the number of players is still high, they might develop more DLCs

stray elm
blissful perch
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Absolutely true that a project like ark 2 can’t be churned out on the same timeline Fjordur and community maps can…and likely not even the big story maps. But I suspect ark 2’s life time will also include regular content releases

glad kraken
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#PleaseQuetzalsInArk2

blissful perch
glad kraken
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i really hope they are not going to just copy paste some dinos from the old game

blissful perch
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I’m not sure they can given the new combat style, AI, and events

glad kraken
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right

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i'm not sure if i have understood correctly but the creatures are supposed to like be able to smell and hear you

split dove
glad kraken
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alright sounds awesome!

stray elm
blissful perch
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I’m choosing to take offense 😂

stray elm
#

That was the idea. m0xyLaugh

blissful perch
# glad kraken alright sounds awesome!

What it means is that there’s a likely decrease in initial roster size. I’m choosing to go full “analyze every micro part of the last stream” and say it’ll be about 60

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Which is I think about 30-40% of the ark 1 roster?

split dove
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iirc base ark with island only has like 100 creatures

north heath
#

is there a release date yet?

stray elm
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2023

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That's it.

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Theorized to be June 2023 or before, but that's unofficial.

north heath
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so no there isnt

stray elm
#

A year is a release-date. Sip
It is the date of the year that it's being released in.

north heath
#

yea but in game dev language its still a dream

blissful perch
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I wonder if they have a list of “complex” and a list of “simple” creatures

ripe cedar
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But i mean they probably think of it more as is it finished in terms of development yet or do they want to add more later

mortal kestrel
stray elm
mortal kestrel
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the game is nowhere near finished though, its releasing in early access for a reason

stray elm
#

A good portion of creatures just have the original raptor BP as their AI

blissful perch
stray elm
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Oh no, I believe they still do.
They just added onto them of being able to have new abilities.

ocean tendon
#

wonder how many times i will dc above an alpha tribes base

deft saddle
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I hope that the new ai makes it so that carnivores aren't just mindless murdering machines

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Like they only hunt other animals at a certain hunger amount

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And you know

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A Carno won't go after a bronto or something

blissful perch
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I think pack hunting would also be super cool. A “sizing up” of opponents and retreating process would be even better. But at some point I’m dreaming

deft saddle
#

Like

stray elm
deft saddle
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A compy shouldn't attack a trike
Or a rex attack a compy

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Ngl I think wildcard is being over ambitious

stray elm
#

It's called "marketing"

deft saddle
#

Yes but

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It makes me worried that its going to be rushed with all these features

stray elm
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That's why it's coming out in Early-Access

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EA's are no different then beta's.
All that really matters is how it's going to be on official release.

onyx trellis
#

Sounds like its gonna be a very cool game, I would like to see armor for dinos finally, the new combat system actually working out well, and a more interactive story, but also including the notes

lime forge
onyx trellis
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Cool. Thanks for the information.

tropic crag
#

Either way, carnos don't attack brontos regardless 😂

onyx trellis
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Not that I've seen

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I've only seen it once and there was more than one carno

dapper geyser
#

Hey

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Will ark work with 4 gb ram

lime forge
dapper geyser
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Oh darn

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Can I then play ark land server on mobile

tropic crag
#

This isn't the channel fo that homie

dapper geyser
#

Oh sorry im new i dont know this

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Stuff

tropic crag
#

All good broham, no worries

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You could ask in general, but good luck getting an answer in there lol

dapper geyser
#

Ok thank you

lime forge
#

Is it the third person thing? It’s the third person thing isn’t it?

ocean tendon
#

skilled a being a clown

short fulcrum
lime forge
#

You would honestly prefer combat to be little gremlins running around at Mach Jesus speed trying to land a hit on one another?

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Also where did you see Ark 2 combat? Would love to see it working

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I disagree. Ark 1 combat is not good at all. It’s just right click spam. Ark 2 already seems far more promising than Ark 1.

stray elm
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(no one likes dark souls combat)
-The whole souls-community: veggies

jaunty nexus
#

I feel that it's a good thing they're changing things up in ARK-2. There'd be no point in buying the game if it was a copy of ARK

untold totem
#

Tbh

lime forge
past wind
#

It is a risky move to change so much the game, but I would wait gameplay footage to judge. I mean, all the changes might make more sense when see them working together.

untold totem
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There is no possible way that any game is gonna be cheat free when people keep cheating

Cheaters will find their way regardless how well made the game is

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Nope

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ARK is not special

All games are prone to this especially competitive games

untold ingot
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First off, we dont allow game devs to make sequels lol, that is a decision they make.

untold totem
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Because it's a 7 year old game with dated code

untold ingot
#

I mean, I am going to get ark2. They changes they have stated so far seem like huge leaps towards what I wanted ark1 to be

untold totem
#

Welcome to the freaking Games Industry

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No need to watch when I am playing now in 2022

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Lmao

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I am already informed because I played the game

untold ingot
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If you dont see cheaters in other games you really get lucky lol

untold totem
#

Well you don't get any good arguments if your mindset is "watch this video because I am right"

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lol it is already a normal thing in ARK 1, there is nothing do about it and move on

untold ingot
#

I mean, if you are getting all your ark1 info from a single video, that doesnt seem well informed to me lol

untold totem
#

Cheaters gonna cheat

And without moderation then what is the point of "removing cheaters" anyways

#

Bruh I have 4k hours

That is all the info I need

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A lot and that is why #NoMoreOfficial

untold ingot
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This seems to be more of an ark1 conversation, #ark-survival-ascended would probably be a better place to move it

untold totem
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Wonna end cheaters? End Official

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No the cheaters themselves

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They want to win and make the game crap in the progress

blissful perch
#

It technically does

untold totem
#

None

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No game relies on anticheats alone

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Name one game does that aside from ARK

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Because ARK proved that anti cheats is not enough

untold ingot
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Its an 8 year old game, trying to fight of new cheat methods. Its not surprising that its getting worse at it

untold totem
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Even if so the outcome will still the same, cheaters gonna cheat. Unless there is an active moderation

blissful perch
#

I mean Rube is right that WC has demonstrated a serious lack of ability to manage the reported CoC violations they get

untold totem
blissful perch
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The solution is to either hire people to actually manage the reports and manually provide relief from cheaters

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Or…don’t bother offering official if you can’t make it free of cheaters

untold totem
#

Yes

untold ingot
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I dont get my info on the state of ark from a couple youtube videos though.

untold totem
#

No Official means no Cheaters means more active moderation

blissful perch
#

Look at Mojang and Minecraft

untold totem
#

Any caught cheating can easily purge that way

blissful perch
#

THEY couldn’t ever keep up with their cheaters, but it’s fine because they never HAD TO. They never offered official servers people would be able to cheat on

untold ingot
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No official wouldnt be terrible for pc only servers, but console historically doesnt have access to easy unofficials and I dont really see that changing too much. So at least for the sake of console players I really dont see ark2 official not being a thing

blissful perch
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It should be easier to offer console CoC reporting and violation support as well

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Less cheaters -> less cheats -> less work ideally per violation report

untold ingot
#

50% is a huge overexaggeration

untold totem
blissful perch
#

Sounds like WC can’t handle the volume of reports. Does that sound right to you?

untold ingot
#

Could be, but I still think that getting rid of official would not be a great move

blissful perch
#

For PC I think removing official would be a valid option if CoC violations are still not able to be handled effectively

untold totem
blissful perch
untold ingot
#

If he is talking about visual ini edits maybe. But aimbotting? I would say from experience that less than 3%

untold totem
blissful perch
untold totem
#

Looks like you never been in an understaffed office before

untold ingot
untold totem
blissful perch
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You lose players who would only play official when you remove it

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But you gain the money wasted hosting official

untold ingot
#

Could be, I guess the only way to see is to compare how popular games that offer official are compared to unofficial only

blissful perch
#

Sounds like a good reason to not offer official to me

blissful perch
untold ingot
#

Good point

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Minecraft also isnt pvp competitive on a large scale like ark though

blissful perch
untold ingot
#

Really?

untold totem
untold ingot
#

I would love to see more game modes like that offered

blissful perch
untold totem
blissful perch
#

Agree. So I guess my question to you is why offer official at all? Since it clearly doesn’t work as intended what with all the cheating

untold totem
#

That is the reason why official should not be in ARK 2 and my sole reasoned why reliance on anticheats is not enough, you need active moderation

untold ingot
untold ingot
untold totem
blissful perch
#

There are some massive hundred/thousand player server clusters for minecraft PvP like Hypixel

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…yes. And I proposed a solution that matches the level of attention the WC team is giving it

untold totem
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Or, say with me now... U n d e r s t a f f e d

blissful perch
#

Yes

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It looks like you’re struggling to grasp that official doesn’t need to be offered

untold ingot
#

We have beaten that topic to death lol. Wipes on official will do nothing but reduce the duration of time that it is popular

blissful perch
#

That takes time, especially with false reports

untold ingot
#

For ark2, official in general wiping should not be a thing

untold totem
#

And what about false reports?

Have you ever been a server as a moderator before because I do and it is not easy being a mod

#

Time to quote you again

"You are not informed"

blissful perch
#

Let’s say (to be nice) there are 1000 players on official and 30 reports a day

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If I work 8 hours on only reports…that’s about 4 reports an hour, so 15min per report

untold ingot
#

There are usually 100k concurrent players. Probably 25k on pvp. And people have a tendency to spam report things. I think 10k or more reports at least weekly is a low estimate

untold totem
#

I have my personal experience as an ARK server moderator for a short time compared to you quoting a YouTuber and thinking it's like a bible

blissful perch
#

The dude’s right that cheating is running rampant in ark lol

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I think he, like many people, believe the solution is to magically have more people addressing cheaters

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But that costs money and manpower lol

untold ingot
#

Welcome to ark lol. People do that

untold totem
untold ingot
#

A single photo would not be enough to prove the world isnt flat if that is your point

blissful perch
#

Well yes, so we have to educate lol

untold ingot
#

But that is just me being a scientist

fervent osprey
#

There are enough but nothing Happens

blissful perch
untold totem
#

The video shows that is normal on official

Nothing. Fucking. special

blissful perch
#

Official is a privilege, not a right 😂

untold ingot
#

It is going to repeat the same exact arguments that have been repeated over and over in almost every pvp video since the start of ark. It wont bring anything new to the table, and it probably doesnt offer any useful solutions

blissful perch
#

You have, and others have. Ask them

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I paid for unofficial play, so it’s not a question for me 😂