lore-nerdz

[bold dove]

Tl:dr. We have no fucking idea what happened to them officially.

[cunning tiger]

imagine being interested in ark lore kinda sad

degenerates

[brazen sparrow]

Ok, now you're just being a douche troll lmao, I was willing to give you a pass on being misinformed in #ark-2, but this is just dumbassery

[bold dove]

They're a child.
They don't know what 'interests' are

[brazen sparrow]

Fair enough, I guess

With a name like that I should've seen that way ahead of time 😅

[wary ruin]

Prob a 12 year old

[restive marsh]

Is there a possiblity of Diana and Mei-Yin entering The Genesis simulation and ship??

And then going to The new earth (Ark 2) like Santiago?

Or that would be impossible?

[brazen sparrow]

That's where they were headed, to Arat Prime, where we were uploaded to the ship (with the assistance of Helena-deus). So I think it's definitely possible that they had their engrams stored/overwritten on the ship with their up-to-date memories

[restive marsh]

Interesting🤔

But, Homodeus Helena isnt there anymore right? Or is she inmortal??

I mean, everything blew up

I mean after Rockwell prime being defeated

[bold dove]

Homo-Deus's are practically immortal.

Downside is, the older you get, the less emotions you have.

[brazen sparrow]

They were the only known survivors to live past Extinction besides us as well, and were pretty badass, so I'd hope they re-appear. The store page does say legendary Ark heroes (plural)...

[brazen sparrow]

If you decide to stay in this dimension, yeah, but who knows what happens when they go to the great beyond

[bold dove]

And Santiago would just be 'hero' if it was only him

[restive marsh]

The question is

Who are we in Genesis 🤔

[bold dove]

That's up to you

[restive marsh]

A random survivor?

[bold dove]

The survivor has no canon-lore.

[brazen sparrow]

Well, that's not entirely true

[bold dove]

Canon backstory*

[restive marsh]

Ngl this channel is peak

I think Ark’s storyline is The best

[bold dove]

They left enough room in Genesis for you to decide if you're a new survivor, or the same from The-Island through Extinction.

[brazen sparrow]

Ok, that I can agree with, besides the part where Helena made us by hand, which is why we're a blank slate

[bold dove]

Helena can go fuck herself.
I ain't no blank ass man!
I'm a REAL boi!

[restive marsh]

Then, Who killed Rockwell?

If we are not canon

[bold dove]

The survivor

[bold dove]

Never said we aren't, you dummy

[restive marsh]

Oh ok sorry

Bob could have killed Rockwell then right?

[brazen sparrow]

It is left intentionally rather vague though if we are the same person, but if you look into it enough, there's evidence we are. Bootleg would say not enough evidence, but a reveal trailer/website is enough for me lmao

[bold dove]

There's just no canon version of the Survivor.
They are whoever/whatever you want them to be.
And Genesis leaves enough room for you to either be a new survivor that never where on the ARK's, or the same survivor that killed the King-Titan

[bold dove]

I only don't count trailers, cause their canon is iffy.

Cause we see HLN-A get created right in front of us in the first Genesis-1 trailer.
Yet, she apparently has been on the ship longer then we have in the Genesis-2 notes.

[brazen sparrow]

So, the alpha ending of Ext combined with the homo-deus text in the reveal website was enough to convince you?

[bold dove]

I forgor what the text said

Also, what does the alpha ending have to do with the survivor?
That's more or less about Rockwell

[brazen sparrow]

Something about an upload and Arat Prime, I can't be arsed to find it lol

[brazen sparrow]

The alpha ending is moreso just evidence that he uploaded himself to Genesis and by proxy the way we did as well

[bold dove]

Ah, right.
The Genesis-ship never bothered creating the 'perfect survivors'
Only the ARK's did.
So, Helena could've just plucked another survivor from a now landed ARK. Since she has a whole planet full of basically biologically peak Homo-Sapians.

[bold dove]

Right.
But we where talking about the 'survivor'

[brazen sparrow]

Since he made it to Earth, and said "I'm coming for you", potentially addressing us or HLN-A or any number of things that are on the ship

[brazen sparrow]

Oh I know, just it lines up with us being uploaded like the trailers and website hint at

[bold dove]

Side note: I hope they give our protagonist a new name in ARK-2, cause 'the survivor' for two games would be confusing as all hell.
Like what Fallout-76 did, with that game and Fallout-1's protagonist being called "the Vault Dweller"

[bold dove]

Actually, i hear more of a "I'm coming for you 'all'"

[brazen sparrow]

Not to mention Rockwell kinda being there and recognizing us/HLN-A

[bold dove]

When does he recognize us?

[brazen sparrow]

Hated 76, for more reasons than just that, but that's a big one

[brazen sparrow]

In the intro cutscene of Gen 2, moreso recognizes HLN-A, but addresses us pretty directly too

[bold dove]

80% of Bethesda made games had great concept of their story. But their execution was shit.

[bold dove]

"Oh, hello there. Now what're you two little nats up to, hmm? This to be my world, the soon of many"
Where in that does it seem like he remembers us?

(can't believe i remember that whole voice-line from the top of my head.)

[brazen sparrow]

There's more than just that, that was the part from the trailer but not the whole conversation

[bold dove]

What part?

OH!, you mean the first Genesis 2 trailer

[brazen sparrow]

He also has lines in Gen chronicles and the Gen 1&2 notes where he talks to/about us

[bold dove]

Well.
The canonlity of Rockwell's chronicle notes are.....'iffy'
And of fucking course he'd recognize us. Some of those notes are on maps we fight him on.

[brazen sparrow]

Yeah, but it's Gen Rockwell, not "BLERGHWEGRHEHRG" Rockwell

[bold dove]

And?
Again, HLN-A being on Aberration and Rockwell talking through her seems a bit 'Sus' within the canon

[brazen sparrow]

We know she exists before we are uploaded to the ship, how is it sus? We could theoretically be travelling through the Arks on the way to Arat Prime to be uploaded

I don't doubt their canonicity, that's for sure, just no reason to for me personally

[restive marsh]

I personally like more The old white haired Rockwell than The new desing for The series

[bold dove]

You don't see the issue with HLN-A being on Aberration with the survivor when their first introduction was in the Genesis-1 intro. And the fact that Rockwell talks about building his army in the chronicle notes....'on Aberration'
You know?
The same map he's currently on as a calamari monster that has no army?

[bold dove]

The notes span through many years.
I don't doubt he'll go white eventually. (maybe)

[restive marsh]

His hair at The Island was already white and he also had a lot of beard

But now we got these

[bold dove]

We, actually don't know this. Since none of the notes are colored.

[brazen sparrow]

No, if we just look at it like I said, where the notes are there after the fact of the events of Ext, it makes sense, at least to me

[restive marsh]

[restive marsh]

If the hair had colour it would be more grey, and also, he had a beard

[bold dove]

And his first note, he looked like Vincent van Gogh.

[brazen sparrow]

I'm certain he'll get his beard, no need to worry imo

[restive marsh]

I hope so

[bold dove]

That's.....a really weird and bad logic.....

[restive marsh]

Thats How Black and white coloring works xd

[bold dove]

A lot of things that don't make sense to normal people, make sense to you.

[bold dove]

Soooo, you can tell someone's hair color if it's all black and white?
How?

[brazen sparrow]

It does make sense that notes that come out after the Arks have fallen would technically be taking place on the fallen Arks though, right?

[bold dove]

Issue is. All of the notes are on still-dead Extinction.
So if we're taking that into account. The ARK's haven't landed yet.

[restive marsh]

Because it is not colored it could be white, yellow, or any light colour, but if it brown, it should be colored with grey or a little black

[bold dove]

You do know blonde exists, right?
For all we know. Rockwell could've been blonde.

[brazen sparrow]

You aren't understanding what I mean, then 😔

[restive marsh]

Yeah but The thing is he ir old so The most logical option is white

[bold dove]

@brazen sparrow

[bold dove]

Not all old people get white hair instantly.

[restive marsh]

Yeah i know🤷‍♂️

[bold dove]

Sooo.
Rockwell could just be a late bloomer.

[restive marsh]

Well, forgot but idk, brown hair for Rockwell sounds strange to me

[bold dove]

Just saying
If you're really getting up in flames over the change of hair-color. I think you need to rethink life choices.

[brazen sparrow]

It looks more grayish to me in the emojis, but 🤷‍♂️

[bold dove]

And anyway. The show ain't canon.

[bold dove]

Yeah, it's like a brown that's starting to white.

I can totally see a 60 year old with that hair color.

[brazen sparrow]

I thought it was stated to be loosely canon?

[bold dove]

'Dollie never elaborated further afterwards, which was two years ago. And some of the new characters don't fit in within the notes if they're suppose to be major characters'

[brazen sparrow]

Yeah she did, pretty recently actually, let me see if I can find it

[bold dove]

So, if anything.
It's probably default non-canon. But everything is loose enough that you can go "Hey, i like the Gladiatrix. She's now canon to the game"

[bold dove]

Oh shit, did she finally?

Look it up faster

It's 2:25 AM.

I wanna sleep.

I'm going to bad at 2:30

Chop chop.

[restive marsh]

Here is 11:28 AM

[bold dove]

@brazen sparrow If you thought it was in here, it isn't

Just checked, and she hasn't talked much since the Pixel-art wars.

Anyway, i'm off

[brazen sparrow]

It would be in #ark-animated-series lmao, but I couldn't find it, wrong keywords I guess. I did however find this...

"well, we've taken some liberties with the lore and characters for the sake of good storytelling in a different medium. I personally think most will be okay with it and enjoy it, but if you are an absolute purist, yes you might pick at parts that are not "on point to the (game) lore" " - Dollie, in #ark-animated-series on 08/08/21

Also nighty night, I should be going to sleep but can't for the life of me commit to doing so 🥲

[solemn linden]

The issue with that idea is that the maps aren't designed in a way that would allow for such a possibility. Like, let's say you find one of Rockwell's Gen 2 chronicles on Aberration. A quick trip to the surface will show that the ARKs are still in orbit, so this can't be taking place after Extinction. Rockwell also still exists on Aberration as the boss, so no possibility of it being after Extinction. The Extinction ending also makes it clear that Aberration basically just fell apart when it crash landed on Earth, so I'm not sure there'd even be much left of it to visit after the Extinction ending.

[brazen sparrow]

I meant that all as a purely hypothetical kind of situation, because of course the maps aren't actually fallen to Earth yet in-game. But since the chronicles took place after Extinction, it can be safely assumed that the notes weren't there until after the events in Extinction (or at least not while we are at those maps the first time), meaning that the Arks would have fallen by then (and we could potentially be traversing them on the way to Arat Prime, to be uploaded to the ship. Getting acquainted with HLN-A, so to speak)

[solemn linden]

Yeah, I get what you mean. It's just not reflected in game, which is why the chronicle notes are considered by many to be kind of dubious in terms of their canonicity. It's possible that the notes themselves are canon, but the way in which they are presented in game can't be.

[brazen sparrow]

Oh of course, no contest. There's no way they existed as they are currently

[vague merlin]

Something I see with the next game is the character making their way back to earth.
We know Ark 2 takes place on a different planet, but would the character in question somehow find their way back on earth?

[brazen sparrow]

Possible? Ehhh, maybe. Likely? I don't think so.

I like your headspace though, with a cutscene referencing the battle in some way (like what you put in #ark-2 )

[vague merlin]

It’s kinda connecting in my brain a little, because when stuff was starting to go wrong on the Arks characters would typically look for the source of the problem.
I think that might actually be happening again, with the monsters that we saw in the reveal at the game awards.
It felt unnatural seeing them there, and it felt way too unnatural the first time we set foot on Scorched after the Overseer fight.

[brazen sparrow]

Well, they are pretty confirmed as just being the native species to the planet. But if/when we see the supposed "dark forces" at work that they eluded to, maybe I'll understand what you mean a bit more, as that could be a similar thing that evokes similar emotions to what we had in Ark 1

And now I'm going to bed, I hope. My body is ready, as a wise man once said, g'night all

[vague merlin]

And out of a lot of the ideas I could come up with, possibly another element infection? It’s not likely, but maybe some form of element made it on the planet after the detonation of the ship? It seems far fetched, given what remained of the substance was pretty much gone along with Rockwell.

[vague merlin]

Ah, well G’night friend

[restive marsh]

Hey guys

[vague merlin]

Yo

[restive marsh]

I am Spanish and i made and edit about Helena vs Rockwell in #fanart-and-screenshots

Let me know what you think about it 😊

Do you think The same or do you think its cap?

Just found out i cant post vídeos

Sorry ☹️

[oblique rapids]

me reading this channel because idk anything about the lore

[restive marsh]

Hey Guys, #fanart-and-screenshots what is that skeleton inside The lore?

[oblique rapids]

@restive marsh what map is that

@small rune i thought there werent fliers on ab

[small rune]

You can edit the ini on unofficial or sp to have flyers or mods

[oblique rapids]

oh ok

[vague merlin]

It might be one of the creatures that roamed aberration before it malfunctioned

[oblique rapids]

wym malfunctioned

[small rune]

Ab is a broken Ark

[vague merlin]

Yea

[oblique rapids]

im new so i apologize

[vague merlin]

It’s ok

[oblique rapids]

oh so like when it malfunctioned everything died or smth

[vague merlin]

Aberration malfunctioned after the inhabitant humans destroyed the overseer and hacked the obelisk

[oblique rapids]

wait is abberation on extinction

[vague merlin]

This was before Rockwell ever made it on Aberration

[oblique rapids]

ima have to watch one of those lore vids 💀

[vague merlin]

No, but Aberration crashed on Extinction

[oblique rapids]

Is it on extinction while the character is playing on it?

[vague merlin]

I’ll gladly give ya an in-depth

[oblique rapids]

Ok

[vague merlin]

No, it shows up after you kill Alpha King Titan

[oblique rapids]

Oh i thought it was on extinction because the surface is really hot

Kinda like extinction

I think ive never played it im trying to beat all the maps in order

[vague merlin]

I understand

[oblique rapids]

but i gotta mass breed rexed

Whats up with scorched earth does that have any lore

[vague merlin]

A good bit

[restive marsh]

Its Aberration

[oblique rapids]

Oh like what

[vague merlin]

Wyverns weren’t natural, they appeared after the Mantis were disappearing

The Ark itself created the World Scar, the name of the wyvern trench.
The arena and buildings where the deathworms are used to be a massive empire before being dragged into the sand

[restive marsh]

But what is that gigantic skeleton???

In Aberration

[oblique rapids]

Wait why were the mantis disappearing

[vague merlin]

Well, humans on the ark were more adaptive to the mantis threat and even at one point drove them to extinction

[oblique rapids]

O

[vague merlin]

It’s possibly one of the dinosaurs that lived before the malfunction and the barrier that protected the surface dissolved.
To me it might be a Giga.

[oblique rapids]

Also is there any known way we get into the genesis simulation

[vague merlin]

Tbh, that got me, because we somehow end up on the Genesis ship in the simulation

[restive marsh]

That is like 5 times bigger than a Giga

[fallow sapphire]

the only real hint we got is a link between arat prime, the launch site of the ship, and the ship, which beams you to the simulation

[restive marsh]

Though Arat Prime we transfer to The Genesis ship

[vague merlin]

Not even sure Arat Prime was on earth at the time

I actually think Arat Prime is the setting of Ark 2

[fallow sapphire]

only thing they have given us as to how Rockwell got there

[fallow sapphire]

thats just Arat

thats what they named the planet

[vague merlin]

Yeah

[tender wasp]

Arat Prime for now is asumed to be the place were we get uploaded to the Gen 2 ship

And it is on earth.

[vague merlin]

Yes, but then raised the Question is how Rockwell managed to get on. Or how he’s even able to move at all.

[fallow sapphire]

yeah they really havent given anything behind it. The player can be passed of as someone new, or following Rockwell in, but the only link we have is Arat Prime

[tender wasp]

Alsoe most likely he uploaded himself via Arat Prime.

But there is no real conclusion to that and they left it open on porpous.

[vague merlin]

Technically he’s still be held in place if his chamber was still somewhat intact. Unless he manipulated the element, even tho almost all traces were scrubbed off of the earth.

[warm nacelle]

this is random but since all humans that were on the Arks were a copy of the real person, wouldn't that mean that the original humans had normal lives? (sorry for my bad spelling and grammer)

[bold dove]

So yeah, like i said.

Basically non-canon. But you can pick and choose what you liked or disliked about it to be canon.

[brazen sparrow]

Arat Prime is the launch site of the Genesis ship from Earth

[brazen sparrow]

^^^

[fallow sapphire]

Yep, which is kinda the point. You can create your own past for your survivor

[brazen sparrow]

They mean the story based survivors, aka Helena, Mei-Yin, Rockwell, etc, which will be somewhat explained/delved into by the animated series

[fallow sapphire]

Fair enough, there were two options of an explanation, i just chose one lol

[vague merlin]

Late night discussion

Fun

[fallow sapphire]

[vague merlin]

Reapers.
Funny Breeding Aliens.

We’re they existent before Rockwell or Adter Rockwell? If so how did they come to be?

[tender wasp]

They existed befor Rockwell and it is asumed that they came after the Overseer got nuked on Abs, but they also could have existed befor that (Namless obviously did) cause the Tek tribe knew of the cave system which existed prior the Tek Nuke allready but never really went deeper into it regarding to Diana.

They first explored it more when they had to retreat cause the forcefield was destroyed/damaged so extremly that living on the surface became impossible.

[solemn linden]

They were present on Aberration before Rockwell showed up there, but it is unclear whether they always existed there but just weren't encountered for a while due to the Tek Tribe not venturing that deep until after Aberration started malfunctioning, or if they only started spawning after they nuked the overseer, in which case they may have been created as a punishment, similar to how the wyverns came to be on Scorched Earth. The punishment idea makes a lot of sense considering their reproduction relies on human hosts, but it isn't really confirmed.

[vague merlin]

Then it could be assumed that if nameless were indeed around before the Rockwell incident then that could’ve been how reapers reproduced? It would make sense, since Nameless look almost identical to Humans.

[tender wasp]

Maybe but the origin of them is unknown and only cause the Tek tribe never went deeper befor, other humans might have ventured down into the cave system befor them.

[solemn linden]

Yeah, it is possible that the Reapers also use the Nameless as hosts and if the Reapers have always existed on Aberration rather than being created as a punishment, then that may be how they reproduced before they gained access to human hosts. The Nameless definitely existed before Rockwell was even on Aberration, considering Mei Yin encountered them well before Rockwell arrived on Aberration.

[tender wasp]

I think some people even asumed that Namless are mutated humans. There was never a real explanation what they really are only that there is a connection between them and Reapers.

[solemn linden]

It's also possible that if no human hosts are available for the Reapers to use for their reproduction, the ARK could just keep creating new Reapers itself, similar to how certain species can't breed and appear to just be continually produced by the ARKs instead.

[solemn linden]

I don't know why people assume that the Nameless were mutated humans. It's also weird that a lot of people for some reason think that they were mutated by Rockwell specifically. Like, they were clearly there before Rockwell even arrived on Aberration so he clearly isn't responsible and there are plenty of creatures in ARK that have more similarities with the Nameless than humans do, so even if we ignore the strong possibility that they aren't mutated from anything and were just genetically engineered to be the way they are, why would they have to be mutated humans specifically?

I guess people just really wanted them to be mutated humans and ignored everything in the notes that contradicts that idea.

[tender wasp]

I have no idea but a lot of people (in my experience) don't really read the notes or only partly and then asume things without really having a clue.

[brazen sparrow]

I know why people think the Nameless are humans... it's all because of a theory (that I took part of, admittedly) about the other type of humans that were marked as extinct or whatever in the tek cave, back on the island. It was far fetched af, and the worst case of grasping I've ever taken part in lmao

[vague merlin]

Identical, mutated humans in are like the corrupt skins and the ones Rockwell made.
I’m saying they’re identical to humans, not mutated

[solemn linden]

I get what you meant. I was responding to Jamie, who mentioned that some people genuinely think that the Nameless are mutated humans. I agree that the nameless are similar enough to humans that the Reapers may be able to use them as hosts, but I wouldn't exactly call them identical. Similar, but not identical.

[brazen sparrow]

This is very relevant btw, because people also like to think that because Aberration is malfunctioning that it is completely broken, which is not the case

[vague merlin]

Yeah, I never got that either.
Some people kept telling me in random parties that Nameless were somewhat mutated by the element as humans.
Mutation by element is likely, but in this case humans never got to the depths of ab before, it rules out human mutation.

[brazen sparrow]

Well, there could have been humans down in the caves that the tek tribe never heard of/saw, but is it likely is the question. And the answer is a resounding no, for the most part 😅

As for the element mutation, the molten element wasn't even there until long after the events in the notes transpired, iirc

[vague merlin]

Most that probably went down probably fooking died before reaching the depths.
Basilisk, Seekers(?), Possibly creatures that lived before the malfunction

[brazen sparrow]

That too tbh

[solemn linden]

Looks at the Obelisks and supplies crates that are still very much functioning, even if the Obelisks are a funny colour now. "Hmmm yes, Aberration is clearly entirely broken."

[pseudo nimbus]

I forgot if there was more lore to supply crates besides the tek cave

[tender wasp]

WHy do people even think that Abs is totaly broken. As I understood it it "fixed" itself so it works in itself as a now very special Ark and obviously was even still in a state were it was able to later reistablish a new "overseer" with Rockwell.

[vague merlin]

Functionality is still questionable given the surface is the literal definition of hell on earth.
The bubble that protects the Ark’s surface doesn’t work anymore, or if it does it’s too weak to block the solar waves

[solemn linden]

Since Aberration seems to have a habit of picking groups of people from a singular time period, there is a possibility that there was just a population of literal cave people that got spawned in down in the depths of Aberration but they were killed off very quickly and nothing they built lasted long enough to be noticed.

[solemn linden]

The point is that it is malfunctioning but it isn't entirely broken. It still has enough of an artificial atmosphere to keep oxygen in, but there isn't anything keeping solar radiation out. The Obelisks and supply crates still work and the notes confirm that the part of the station that clones new creatures is still functional, but it is also under the control of a giant British tentacle monster, so.... You win some, you lose some.

[pseudo nimbus]

So yall know how you can't use teleporters on aberration for (presumably) lore reasons? Why does the transmitter still work though?
(Not complaining just asking, ab would be hell on official without a transmitter)

[tender wasp]

I think cause transfers via Transmitter/Obelisk are not canon.

[pseudo nimbus]

Makes sense

[vague merlin]

A maniacal British tentacle monster, but besides the point.
I think the loss of the stability was the crack in the massive pillar that might’ve had some supportive role for the survivability of life on the surface.
Might’ve been the nuke’s fault tho

[rigid palm]

Quantam if you’re on, do you remember which note(s) that nameless were seen in before rockwell came? In an argument right now about this lol

[solemn linden]

I'm trying to find it but it's one of the Mei Yin notes and she refers to like half the creatures as demons. Only know it was the Nameless based on the picture but those don't appear on the wiki and it would take too long to load the game.

[rigid palm]

Alr thanks

I’ll just go with “mei yin saw them” and hope they don’t make me (or you) find a specific note lol

[pseudo nimbus]

Tf I wanna see this argument

[tender wasp]

Let me check if I can find the note. I had a page with most notes screenshooted

[solemn linden]

I think I found it. It's Mei Yin's 6th note on Aberration.

"Navigating the forest has been easier with Xiao at my side. His light has both guided and protected me. The small, spined monsters that I fought before returned in numbers, but they cowered and fled before Xiao's light, as they did from the glowing pillar. So long as Xiao is with me, I need not fear them."

It's one of the few creatures she doesn't refer to as a demon and it definitely seems to be the Nameless, judging by their fear of charge light and their small size.

If I'm remembering correctly, the accompanying picture also very much looks like them.

[rigid palm]

Yeah I used that as evidence and their response was “nameless aren’t spined but reaper spawn are”

[pseudo nimbus]

Also notes how they spawn in numbers

[rigid palm]

And they’re using the gameplay mechanic of nameless being weakened instead of running away as evidence that it wasnt nameless

[tender wasp]

oh man..

[solemn linden]

In their dossier, the Nameless have spines running down their backs and so does their original concept art. It's probably just a leftover from that.

[tender wasp]

And even if they think it is Reapers, Reapers are connected with Nameless and then they also are there before.

I found the note of her were she encounters reapers (did draw them)

[rigid palm]

Waiting on response

They agree that that would prove reapers were before rockwell, but they’re jumping to the conclusion that they were the wyverns of ab

[pseudo nimbus]

Show us the argument

[rigid palm]

Feel free to join syntac’s discord and hop in

[tender wasp]

Oh it is in Syntacs ? ^^

I have found the reaper note but it is in french lol

[rigid palm]

Yes, the #ark-2 channel

[tender wasp]

I found a pic of note #4 were she mentiones the nameless and she drew them.

Can I PM it to you @rigid palm ?

[rigid palm]

Feel free

[brazen sparrow]

If you stand in charge long enough, they do run away/despawn, so your pal is just grasping at that point lol

[tender wasp]

True and you even can see them burry themself again.

[celest pumice]

I keep seeing everywhere talks about the games lore but is there rlly a lore?
Cuz if so,how come we dont presented with it at all ingame?

[arctic bison]

explorer notes, and yes ark has a lot of lore

[celest pumice]

Arent they all just pictures and sometimes story bout another survivor?
Tbh,i only wonder about one thing in this game and is why the heck do i wake up on a stranded land with no memory of anythin,with no items at all and i have an implant on the arm?

Aldo,im not sure if i realized it correctly,but is it possible i sees iggdrasil ingame?!
Is it related to viking story?

[sick canyon]

There are hundreds of notes from multiple different survivors
You have to collect them and read them all in order to get the full story of each survivor

[celest pumice]

Aha,gotch sir.
I guess ill have to find em all then?

[sick canyon]

Fjordor isn't cannon to the main ark story line

[arctic bison]

they are on the wiki so you can read them all

free dlc maps aren't canon

[sick canyon]

Watch neddy the noodles survival stories on yt

[celest pumice]

Ight thz for responses guys.

Tho i still asking myself whats that hellish implant in my hand for and from.

[sick canyon]

Have you played though the island map and defeated the final boss?

[celest pumice]

Im currently on the island but havent done any boss yet.
I started only 3 weeks ago so....

[sick canyon]

That will answer a lot of your questions

[celest pumice]

Well,thatll take long time and i wanted to fill my curisiocity.
I tried checking that on wiki but after the first mistake ive seen there im not sure anymore if i could trust wats written there bout the implant.

[sick canyon]

Oh, your nowhere near being able to fight bosses then
But if you build an army and defeat the 3 guardians of the island
You'll be able to descend into the tek cave to fight the final boss
And the true nature of the island will be revealed

[celest pumice]

Lol,with what i understand in this game so far,theres probably even no chance at all ill beat any of those tbh.lol.

Anyhow,thx for replying.

[sick canyon]

Fair enough, Just watch neddys survival stories then
The ark lore is actually pretty deep so have fun researching it

[celest pumice]

Yup,sure will.

Thx again.

[rigid palm]

What mistake did you see on the wiki?

[sharp tide]

Omg anotha maewing enjoyer wooo

[celest pumice]

Only one. Tho its monor,its still mistake. Ill copy paste what it says there:
"A survivor can even re-collect their own implant after re-spawning (along with the rest of their items), provided they make it back in time. This will result in possessing two implants, one active and one inactive"
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.
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Thats what wiki says but its actually incorrect. If u happen to loot ur dead body with the implant in it,it will replace the active implant with the inactive implant which u can drop causing u have no implants in inventory at all.

[rigid palm]

Um
You can’t drop your active implant

[tender wasp]

And you can collect the inactive implant.. it is simply in your inventory.

It does not replace your active one.

[naive isle]

Can someone give me a rundown of the whole ark story timeline

[glad oak]

there is actually a glitch that happens sometimes where when you grab your dead implant it just deletes your active implant.

so thats what they must be meaning

[bold dove]

Element crashed on Earth sometime in the future.
Humans make tek.
Humans have planetary war.
Element turns out to be alive, and they've been polluting the planet with element from the war.
Element goes corrupted.
Corruption starts to kill off all life on Earth.
Humanity created the ARK's and Genesis-ship (and possibly other failsafes) to preserve life.
Hundreds to thousands of years later, a survivor known as Helena wakes up on The Island ARK.
She does shit and becomes BFF's with Rockwell.
Rockwell gets jelly that she was learning more about the obelisks then he was.
Helena gets kidnapped by Nerva and goes to the Overseer's deck.
Her and Rockwell go to Scorched.
Rockwell kills a whole tribe and a baby.
They go to Aberration.
Rockwell turns into a calamari monster by injecting himself with Element.
Helena goes back to the now dead-Earth (Extinction) and fucking 'dies'
Mei-Yin puts her in a machine that resurrect Helena.
Helena turns into a god like being.
Helena makes it that future survivors can now respawn.

[naive isle]

Huh interesting lol, thanks bro

[gloomy bolt]

That’s a hell of a Ark in a nutshell lol

[brazen sparrow]

This is wrong, you cannot have your living implant replaced whatsoever. The wiki is right lol

[brazen sparrow]

^^^

[oblique rapids]

👀

[oblique hinge]

i think he means the glitch on official were it removes you impant from you inventory.

[tardy flax]

Ok so element was the source of corruption on Earth and the reasons the titans appeared right? It’s a resource organism thing that can replicate and spread when it’s used right?

[bold dove]

Pratically.

Humans used too much element during a war and basically caused what would happen with massive amounts of fossil fuel.

[tardy flax]

So if element is what corrupted Earth why was it brought to the arks? I thought the arks were meant to preserve life until they could land and then cleanse earth of element

[bold dove]

Interesting fact: If i recall right from his reddit post. The idea of element being the cornier stone of the tek-war, and the pollution is actually Marc's interpretation of what Fossil fuel is doing to our planet irl. (Marc was the original writer)

[bold dove]

Cause element in both small, and a controlled environment isn't harmful.

[tardy flax]

But why keep it around? Are we (the players) just hoping future generations won’t let it get out of control again?

[bold dove]

It was just the misuse and the over obsessives amount used in a planetary-based war that jumpstarted corruption.

[bold dove]

Hints Extinction

[tardy flax]

Do the XP notes tell the story or is there more there I should check out?

[bold dove]

That's the point of them, so no der.

[tardy flax]

Well i didn’t know if there was more commentary or other things to see there

[bold dove]

You get the most amount of information with element from "The One Who Waits" author.

Though, it's actually unknown 'how' element got corrupted.
The tek-war just jumpstarted its spread. But the actual key of 'why' element goes rouge is unknown.

Even in the notes, a god-like being doesn't know the 'why' of it starting.
Only theories.

[tardy flax]

Yeah cause I know there’s like good and bad corruption but like it seems odd to me that they wanted to keep it

[bold dove]

So, this means element could naturally be bad, and just isn't in a mature state yet.
Or, since its sentient. Felt like the overuse of element was an attack, and so it attacked back as self-defense.

[bold dove]

Right.
Cause the 'corruption'/element you see on Extinction-exclusive creatures actually benefit from it.

[tardy flax]

Ohhh that’s a good point. I kind of thought of it as essentially seeds and just grew/replicated whenever it could

[bold dove]

It does grow like a fungus. But that's just how element expands/breeds. Which can be removed from the soil (which is the purpose of stryders on Genesis-2)
Though, element spreading seems like that isn't the issue of it going corrupted.

[tardy flax]

Wow that’s actually pretty cool. I’m still reading through the notes of earlier arks like the island and scorched so thank you

[bold dove]

Extinction explains the most amount of ARK's backstory, since it's basically on the planet that everything started on.
While the notes set on ARK's help explain how ARK's work.

[tardy flax]

Ahh ok gotcha

[dawn stirrup]

Since the carchar is getting added to most maps, does this mean that it will have a dossier?

[bold dove]

🤷‍♂️

[lyric tendon]

i mean it already has an official dossier IIRC, so it's possible

or i mistook that as someone else's fan art

[brazen sparrow]

I thought the element went a bit more lavender...

[bold dove]

?

[brazen sparrow]

You say rouge, that's a color (a shade of red), when in fact you mean rogue

[bold dove]

[brazen sparrow]

I was making fun of you ol' chap

[brazen sparrow]

It was the fanart one you probably saw, it was really good though to be fair. But they haven't shown off the official dossier though sadly (yet)

[dusk yoke]

is there a youtube playlist of videos of ark lore in order

[glad crow]

There are plenty of note read throughs, (eg Complete Games) and there are also Neddy the Noodles' acted ones, though they are not finished. You can also read the notes online.

[bronze turtle]

Can someone explain to me are lore as a whole cause I know bits of it like rockwell and helana and the arks but why are there people from different time periods like mey lin( I think and other people there

[pseudo nimbus]

Engram matrixxes

And they just randomly put people from random times into random arks

Except aberration which only had people from the tek Era ||and didn't think about how they could potentially build tek nukes and blow up the ark||

[bronze turtle]

cool

[safe sentinel]

What would the YouTube of the ark universe be filled with do they even have YouTube

Would it have videos about element or maybe mainly people showing their tames

[bold dove]

W-w.....what?

@brazen sparrow Can you help decode this message?

[brazen sparrow]

I have no idea

[bold dove]

Welp, we're fucked then.

[pseudo nimbus]

Wait I think I know

He means is there YouTube in the ark universe

[bold dove]

[pseudo nimbus]

That's what I said

[soft void]

How you guys find the lore just by reading the notes?

[bold dove]

The same way you figure out a story from reading a book.

[soft void]

There’s a book

[bold dove]

The notes are practically pages of a book

[soft void]

Ok 👌👍

[bold dove]

Have you never discovered a explorer note before?

[soft void]

yes it has words just i dont feel like reading

[bold dove]

That just sounds like being lazy.

[glass ravine]

Ark audiobook when

[pseudo nimbus]

Life will end but there is no end to bruisingpikman reacting to every comment

[lyric tendon]

YouTube has them

[glass ravine]

I want them on my ipod

[soft void]

egggsactly what it is

[bronze turtle]

can some one send a video explaining ark lore as a whole cause I dont know jack and I wanna know

[warped herald]

Just look it up on youtube

[molten narwhal]

Wait did this work?

[tardy flax]

I don’t really know if this counts as lore discussion so if it doesn’t lmk but what we’re the extinction creatures with good corruption (manas, gasbags, snow owls…) like before they were corrupted? We’re they the same animals just without their abilities? Or did they always have their abilities and the corruption just enhances them?

[bold dove]

Sorry, i don't 100% get this question

Are you asking if they used to have abilities before getting mutated?

[tardy flax]

Yes

Basically what we’re they like before they were corrupted

[bold dove]

Well, last time i checked.
A normal owl can't freeze stuff around it.

Or a sloth being able to grow rocks on their back.

[tardy flax]

So it was basically an argy but with no weight buff or carrying ability?

[bold dove]

No.
They where just normal owls.

Normal, ordinary, twisting their heads in a 180 degree angle, owls.

[dawn stirrup]

What were velonasaurs before they mutated?

[rain dock]

I am not sure that there is anything saying that they were anything

[solemn linden]

Well based on the evidence we have, we can assume that prior to becoming Element-infused, Gachas were sloths, Gasbags were tardigrades, Snow Owls were obviously owls, Velonasaurs were clearly some kind of theropod dinosaur (though some people are convinced that they are lizards that underwent extreme convergent evolution for some reason) and the Managarmr's origins are fairly unclear.

Some people assume from their name and mammalian traits that Manas are hyper evolved wolves that for some reason gained scales, wings and ice breath, but I think that judging by those traits it is more plausible to assume that Helena was right in assuming that they are related to Wyverns. I mean Wyverns have bat-like wings and produce a liquid that is referred to as "Wyvern milk" so it's possible they've got some mammal DNA in there that just became more pronounced in the Manas.

[tardy flax]

Oh wow that’s pretty cool. Yeah stuff like gachas, velonosaurs, and gasbags seemed pretty straight forward in their transformations but manas seemed like a pretty big jump between what they were like before and after the corruption set in

And just out of curiosity would it be possible to theoretically positively corrupt other animals or is there something that determines whether a creature gets positive or negative corruption

[solemn linden]

We don't really know. There is one line in the Snow Owls dossier that some people interpret as the Obelisks in the Proto-ARKs being responsible for the corruption in the Extinction creatures being the "positive" kind, but is may just be referring to the fact that the Snow Owl's habitat only exists within a Proto-ARK.

The line is: "Since it never strays from the patch of frozen tundra we encountered, I believe the Obelisk was the key to its survival."

[tardy flax]

Oh so that was an intentional choice rather than the element just corrupting them on its own

[solemn linden]

Well we're not really sure if that is what the dossier is referring to, but if it is something to do with the "positive" corruption then I'd assume it would be that the creatures became slightly corrupted by Element in the regular way but the Proto-ARKs neutralized the harmful effects somehow.

[tardy flax]

Wow that’s really cool. I’m still reading through the dossiers and notes but the corruption is confusing me for some reason

[solemn linden]

That's fair lmao

What's also interesting is that the Extinction creatures seem to match up with Tek items in terms of abilities, which makes sense considering Element is the main material used in Tek and it has a hive mind. The Manas have jet feet like the jetpack on a Tek chest piece, the Snow Owls have heat vision kind of like the vision modes on the Tek helmet, Velonasaurs are basically just guns with legs and the Gacha converts materials into items like a Tek replicator. The Gasbag is the only one that doesn't match a Tek item.

[tardy flax]

Wow that’s another thing I’ve never thought about. Yeah I’m starting the aberration dossiers so soon enough I’ll be on extinction to read more about it. Thanks again for the answers those were really helpful

[solemn linden]

No problem. :)

Have fun with Aberration, it's got some really cool stuff!

[finite scroll]

Someone explain it to me

[glad dirge]

Why didn’t the gen ship leave right away?

[pseudo nimbus]

I want aberration survival stories

[bold dove]

It did

[glad dirge]

Apparently it didn’t

[bold dove]

Says who?

[glad dirge]

Because that’s how Rockwell got from the ark to the gen ship

[glad dirge]

I think quantum did a couple months back

[bold dove]

No actually, it wasn't.
He was able to transfer his conscious onto the ship and rebuild his body.

Then Quantum is a bit wrong. Cause Nida's notes are set while the ship is in space.

[glad dirge]

Did he do that from earth or from or from the ark?

[bold dove]

From Arat-Prime

Which is on Earth.

[warped herald]

I forgot was Arat-prime in Australia ?

[bold dove]

Never explained.

Same with where Extinction is set.

[warped herald]

Idk why thought it was in Australia lol

[brazen sparrow]

It (Arat Prime) has an uplink from Earth to the ship, somehow, even though they're lightyears apart. That's also how we get there if you headcanon that we're the same survivor (which is intentionally left vague but somewhat confirmed)

[bold dove]

Extinction is an odd one.
Since it's suppose to be directly in front of where Aberration is positioned.
So, it's assumed to be in the U.S or something, since Aberration on The Island is directly in front of the U.S.
'Buuuut' if i recall right, in the Aberration ascension cutscene. It was changed to be somewhere in Europe.
Soooooooooo. 🤷‍♂️

[warped herald]

Isnt the earth not rotating during the game?

[bold dove]

Yep.
So they switched the rotation of the Earth for some reason.

[warped herald]

Cause that doesnt make any sense if its over the USA and then to Europe

Unless the arks are rotating around the earth

[bold dove]

It makes perfect sense, if it was an oversight. Or them changing the position of Extinction's setting before the whole lore of "Earth stopped rotating" became a thing.

While ARK has always had a form of a story, and they've always wanted to do something more with stuff like the obelisks and implants since day-one.
It's still a video-game by the end of the day. And a lot of consistency is going to be....'questionable.'

[brazen sparrow]

They are, they're orbiting. Just because Earth isn't moving doesn't mean the Arks aren't

Explains a lot about the differing positions of the Arks at different times 😉

[bold dove]

Then, wouldn't you need to ascend on Aberration on a very specific time of the day to be able to get shot onto Extinction?
Cause again. In the Aberration ending, we're being flung directly in front of Aberration, towards Earth. Not rotating a whole 180 degree angle around Earth to get to an ARK.

[brazen sparrow]

We don't know where Extinction is, so... no? I think? Idk man, I just work here

[bold dove]

That was my point.

[brazen sparrow]

Yeah, so wherever we are launched to when we ascend from Ab is where it is lol

[bold dove]

I'd assume so.
But again, this means that the gateway-project had to be launched at the 'perfect' time of day to be able to make their destination.
Which....either we're super lucky, somehow knew, or Helena did her witchcraft again and changed some stuff.

[brazen sparrow]

Eh, I'm pretty sure they didn't have a destination, it was just kinda "the planet"

Get to the planet, figure it out there type of deal

And then yeah Helena probably locked the orbits of the Arks after that, we know she did modify them in general already...

Or at least linked the gateway to Sanctuary somehow, since we are uploaded and downloaded, presumably to the city terminals

[rain dock]

Since the earth isn't rotating the arks have to be orbiting pretty quickly

Unless we are just ignoring gravity now

[brazen sparrow]

Elermernt ers teh explernation

[bold dove]

'Element'

[bronze turtle]

Let's leave it up to ark logic

[solemn linden]

I told them about the transfer. Dunno how they misinterpreted what I said that badly.

[bold dove]

Bruh

Get nae-naed on.

[solemn linden]

Lmao

[solemn linden]

Seriously though. I remember explaining the whole transfer thing to you.

And that is not what I told you at all lmao

[glad dirge]

Then I guess I don’t

I’m not the sharpest tool in the shed lol

[bold dove]

"She was lookin kind of dumb"

[split rover]

Aberration has seasons in game, which would be weird if the ark was stationary