lore-nerdz

[lyric tendon]

there is nothing in the notes that confirms that

[red mist]

it's always sorta confused me how osds work, considering that the sum of everything that spawns in a blue osd is at least one giga's worth, yet a single corrupted giga could absolutely destroy a blue osd

if corruption is a hivemind how come it doesn't think of that?

but it does make sense if they're just normal creatures that got corrupted

[lyric tendon]

hivemind is not equal an intelligent mind

[red mist]

corruption hivedumb ig

[red mist]

you'd think with so much element at the element's disposal it would be able to think of that

[safe sentinel]

It caused the arks necessity and human mass extinction and caused the planet to be abandond if that's benevolent I don't want to see malevolence

[lyric tendon]

if the hivemind is intelligent, they would've stop humanity's advance a long time ago

[rigid palm]

humans caused that

[safe sentinel]

Wait if rockwell had element in him what if he is speaking for the king titan and has it's conciens

[red mist]

maybe, i mean it's perfectly content with being used to create and power weapons that destroy element

[rigid palm]

No

[lyric tendon]

Rockwell is forever stuck in Abb until the reseed protocol dropped and kill off the remains of the earth element

[safe sentinel]

With help from element the thing the Titans are made of

[rigid palm]

Humans caused all that
Is it a gun’s fault if it shoots someone

[safe sentinel]

He is on genesis 1 and 2

[lyric tendon]

genesis is.... hard to make connection

yes he is there but no one knows HOW he gets in there

[safe sentinel]

Would the arks of been made if it wasnt for elemental corruption

[rigid palm]

Would the element corruption have happened without the tek war

[red mist]

does anyone actually know what element element is? is it supposed to be one of those ones humans know exist but never heard of? is it just called "element?"

[safe sentinel]

The same way helana did to make hlna

[rigid palm]

Thats not confirmed

[safe sentinel]

No but the corruption is still the reason the arks were made

[rigid palm]

🤦‍♂️ you’re completely ignoring the point lol

[lyric tendon]

basically

[ruby crescent]

Mabye not evil, well in its own mind, but trying to spread and evolve, like us humans.

[rigid palm]

And making up stuff that was never confirmed and saying it as fact

[safe sentinel]

Yes it is there is a location mentioned in multiple gen 2 notes that states the location Is a link to the ship

[rigid palm]

So? Did it say anything about rockwell using it?

[red mist]

wait, the ark story isn't a metaphor for anything, is it?
it's starting to sound like it's some sort of metaphor for human-induced extinction

[ruby crescent]

I'm not super in-depth into the lore

So I can be 100% for anything

[lyric tendon]

it is... now in #ark-2 Humans are the element

[safe sentinel]

It's the only logical solution here is a clear way for him to and he is on the ship

[lyric tendon]

none until WC made it clear.... which is not, thats why Gen 2 sucks in the lore department

[red mist]

it's been a metaphor this whole time? how have i missed this other than the fact that i don't like literary criticism nor know much if anything about the lore?

[safe sentinel]

So he found a way to the ship with out that link then

[ruby crescent]

Gtg for now

[lyric tendon]

he found a way but nothing stated in the notes aside from someone left the backdoor open

[safe sentinel]

It gives a spot on the other side of the planet that links to the ship

[lyric tendon]

remember his physical body is in Ab, and now that we beat the (Alpha) King Titan, Ab is on earth

now how did Rockwell whos is now in Earth end up in the ship that is several light years away?

the gap between ext and gen is still unknown and nothing but pure guesses

[sweet torrent]

The Genesis ship didn't launch until after we fixed earth because even with element being taken out of the earth, the planet was still too far lost for it to be stable

[rigid palm]

Heres a tip: logical solution does not always = wc solution

[sweet torrent]

At least thats my idea

[rigid palm]

The ship and the arks launched at the same time

[sweet torrent]

Maybe he uploaded himself in the Ark system and made it so a clone of him would be made on the Genesis ship, and once awoken he already knew what to do with the element

[lyric tendon]

that's just a guess, there is no confirmation or any notes that can tell us how he got in there

whatever the way he do to transfer to the ship, all of them is non-canon

[sweet torrent]

yee

[fallow sapphire]

The only potential canon solution is the connection from arat prime

But yeah i wish they explained it

[sweet torrent]

Wait, didn't HLNA say in one of the first gen chronicles that the Arks were used as testing grounds for Gen 1

She was talking about how the magmasaurs were tested on Scorched

[fallow sapphire]

They used each other, the arks went for dinosaurs because of the genesis simulation, and magmasaurs were tested on scorched

[sweet torrent]

So they all must have had a link of some type

[fallow sapphire]

The URE and Federation helping eachother

[rigid palm]

I see where you’re going
I already thought of it and got shut down 😭

[sweet torrent]

rip

what was the main reason?

[rigid palm]

Idk
Apparently I was missing something but no one would tell me what

[sweet torrent]

Maybe Rockwell just called an uber

We may just simply be over complicating this

[lyric tendon]

blame the new writer who doesnt know what they doing

we are overcomplicating things because they gave us plotholes as big as a black hole

[gusty turret]

Im not reading all of everything to know if this got resolved, but no, king Titan didn't come with the meteor, he, along with the other titans were born from the element as, almost exactly quoting, a representation of the elements maliciousness, he was just the biggest and most powerful therefore the leaders of the others

[sweet torrent]

yep, element has a mind of its own and adapts to anything, making it so dangerous

[rigid palm]

Is it element’s fault that humans created tek?

[bold dove]

Marc was trying to create it like that, yeah.

[red mist]

the more you know. maybe there's actually some value in being passably literate in the lore

[bold dove]

Which adds more to the fact that element isn't 'bad' but just doing what it needs to just to survive.
Is it the coals fault that it's polluting the planet? No, it's the commercial use of coal that makes it harmful to our planet. Just like element.

Element is clearly able to coexist with humans, seen on the Genesis-ship where it's still made out of tek, but the stryders help lower the population then it doesn't do anything harmful.

[rigid palm]

What? So is it gasoline’s fault that humans use it to pollute the earth? That argument makes zero sense

[heavy sandal]

this guy in here victim blaming element

[rigid palm]

Yes… because gas has a consciousness and can make decisions to do that

[gusty turret]

Well no, obviously??? But war would still happen either way, it's the human way

[safe sentinel]

I was saying that but I was told I was wrong

[rigid palm]

You were never told you were wrong

You were told the truth, that is, that that has never been confirmed

[safe sentinel]

It has though in a way because it says hlna is with you cause of arat

[rigid palm]

Something is possible ≠ it happened

[fallow sapphire]

Its mentioned thats where a homo deus (helena) probably came through, and its about the only stated reason for Rockwell getting to the ship

[safe sentinel]

Does that mean that the survivor can corrupt the Titans by tameing

[safe sentinel]

And just because something is sentient doesn't mean it has intelegece

[gusty turret]

Theoretically i guess we tame the titans by breaking the corruption off of them and I guess that's why they die over time when tamed because the symbiote that has been keeping them alive is gone? But im not even sure titan taming is canon so I can't say

[gusty turret]

They're manifestations made from the corruption, of the corruptions maliciousness and hunger, made to protect it and help it survive

[rigid palm]

What does that have to do with the convo

[bold dove]

Counter argument: If humans never existed, then the planet would be more healthy. Meaning humans are the bad-guys.

[bronze turtle]

bruh

[bronze turtle]

everyone ever:

[bold dove]

They are.
Titans are beings of pure element, and the only thing in-game that are "pure" element.

[bronze turtle]

Element is pure Element

[bold dove]

Y-y....yes....that's what i said.

[gusty turret]

Element isn't pure element

[bronze turtle]

bruh

what is it hten

[bold dove]

Well, technically dav is right. The element we see in-game of the item is in it's refined state, aka it's battery state.
The 'actual' pure form of element is the liquid river we see on Aberration. That, and corruption.

[gusty turret]

Even the soup in abb isn't pure

Because theres jellyfish and stuff in it

Hence why its the soup

[rigid palm]

Its element mixed with jelly

[gusty turret]

Mmmm i wanna monch on some element dust right about now

[rigid palm]

Jell-ement

[safe sentinel]

Referring to you

[rigid palm]

Are you saying I’m sentient but not intelligent

[safe sentinel]

Yes cause you are causing a major pothole by saying it's unconfermed if rockwell used arat prime even though it's the only viable reason

[rigid palm]

I’m not

Wc is

And its not the only viable reason lol

[rigid palm]

I once again refer to this

[safe sentinel]

Then what's the others

[bronze turtle]

The corruption isn't pure element, it's actually far from. Per ark lore, the corruption is the least pure form possible

[lyric tendon]

Nope, the Tek People refine them in their stabilized form hence we can handle them

[bronze turtle]

Facts homie

But I've yet to see a least pure form of element

It has a malice to it

[lyric tendon]

It's in Ab

That's also the reason why Rockwell got corrupted "voluntarilly"

[bronze turtle]

The least pure bro

[ember solar]

I'm gonna guess the meteor had element ore in it, but then why do you get refined element from corrupted nodes, is it for gameplay reasons?

[lyric tendon]

same with if you destroy it in its purple form, the titan gets stronger

it can be gameplay reason

[rigid palm]

Literally anything you can think of
“The ship did a pit stop on earth at a taco bell and rockwell hopped on while they were all in the bathroom”

[wind imp]

Mmmmmmm

2000 year old taco bell

[wind imp]

Or however old it is

[odd latch]

So if we put all the ark orginal creatures in a eco system which is most likely to become the apex predator.

Ark orginal

Dodo was something real

[wind imp]

I'd say either reaper or magmasaur

Depends on the environment

[gusty turret]

I wouldn't consider magmas apex

They ain't shit without the volcano

[patent osprey]

I assume no bosses or titans then I'd say lightning wyvern would be strong, it's one if the strongest flyers and a lot of stuff could not hit it

[ember solar]

so since rex can't breathe underwater it can't be counted as an apex

[patent osprey]

Oh yea depends on biome

I guess we could set it to highlands on rag so that might help

[ember solar]

I think rock drakes would do pretty well because they have great mobility and if they encounter something that they can't deal with then they can go invis

[patent osprey]

There are conditions to this like are they in a pack, are they tamed, is someone riding,

But stuff with bleed will be good

[ornate hull]

Ya know if we were in the ark world irl imagine how fun it would be to fuck with Rockwell

Just go into Rockwell innards and yell dad jokes

Hey hey Rockwell
"What survivor"
Why did the bike fall over
"Piss off survivor"

[ember solar]

you probably wouldnt be a survivor after he had his revenge on you

[gusty turret]

What's he gonna do piss on me?

That just sounds like a good time

[patent osprey]

If he could kill you like that then he would stop you from taking back parts of the ship

He weak

[quiet field]

WHAT THE FUCK did this chat become

[gusty turret]

Don't ask

[quiet field]

how did wee go from lore to piss kinks

[fallow sapphire]

Yeah thats why i dont hang around here much anymore

[winged shoal]

Its always been this

[quiet field]

ahhh its coming from a consol player

makes sense

[winged shoal]

Hey!

[quiet field]

hahah

[winged shoal]

Concole may suck, but it's all I have

[mental basin]

I got warned for calling him out.

Just leave it be.

[quiet field]

also ur playing on a pc just with a stupid os

[mental basin]

I got Series X.

[quiet field]

yup a pc with a stupid os

[winged shoal]

I may not have a pc, but at least I can still hear Rockwells rambling

Speaking of which!

[quiet field]

if u wanna do this we probably shouldnt be doing it in this channel but id be more then happy to diss u in private

[winged shoal]

What does he mean when he calls them his children

[quiet field]

lowkey dont even wanna know

[fallow sapphire]

His creations

Specifically his “human” creations

[winged shoal]

Do you think he ment it literally?

[fallow sapphire]

Not literally no

[winged shoal]

I think he ment it

[fallow sapphire]

I mean look at it this way. Genesis has a lot of Bible references, and in this case I see it as God’s children. He didn’t literally birth them, but he created them

[quiet field]

i mean yah its called genesis for a reason

[lyric tendon]

Gen 2's story is too forced in their religious references to the point it's too disconnected to the entire lore of ARK

[gusty turret]

Yeah Gabriel keeps jumping from personalities n shit its dumb

[bold dove]

To be fair, ARK's story has always took inspiration from different sources of religion,

[lyric tendon]

at least it's somewhat less noticeable than Gen 2 tho

[fallow sapphire]

I do wonder why the writer decided to go with that

[mental basin]

Okay

We're literally in the heavens with a Lovecraftian meat "god" using our vessel as a literal garden of eden

It all fits
None of it doesn't

[fallow sapphire]

I mean valid

But they pushed it more then just that

Cause I mean even the ARKs were like that, had lots of similarities but they didnt delve into it a crap ton

Anywho idc much about them doing it, definitely not as much as some people here do

[mental basin]

Oh yeah they pushed it a lot

But we have a new writer
And this is the finale

The final stretch against a "God"

[bold dove]

So "ARK" as a life-vessel holding the last of the genes of life isn't on the nose to Noah's ARK?

[fallow sapphire]

Thats what im saying, there were things like that, but they push it more in gen 2

[lyric tendon]

except the overseer is way smarter when comes to genetics than Noah

double the fact the ARK is climate controlled

[bold dove]

And?
Doesn't mean it's not inspired by the biblical ARK.

[mental basin]

I'm just gonna say that the biblical references were there from the beginning, but they really used it as a theme for Genesis 2. Eden. Rockwell's Garden. " Wars in Heaven." "Creation deserves it's rightful turn in the sun." "Making my own people." "My new children." "A God..." Etc.

Even cultists.

[bold dove]

I just feel like this is just nickpicking at this point.

[lyric tendon]

the thing is, the last 4 is less noticeable than Gen 2

yes they put the spin to the Noah's Ark but without the "you have been warned by god and the world will be flooded" or whatever

there is no warning about the dangers of the corruption, just after the war is when the corruption happened without a warning or a hint

[bold dove]

The warning actually was there, in the fact that it literally produced spores when you power it.
That alone should've been a sign to study it further, since it's not normal at all for a metal to produce a organic substance like that. (and don't say it can be particles, since if you've ever seen what real spores look like in a cluster, you'd know there's a difference)
And the "flooded world" was literally the extinction of Earth.
In the Christian bible, god decided to wipe all life on Earth to reset it, and warned a random ass person called Noah to create a ark, and brought a mal and female of every species on the planet.
Element literally killed all of life on Earth, causing it to be a wasteland. And humanity created the ARK's to preserve life.
Yeah, no, that's fucking on the nose for writing.

If i recall right, Marc did state the inspiration of all life being killed by element 'was' the great-flood from Christian bible.

[lyric tendon]

it's unnoticeable to me... i guess i focused on the people in the ARK not about the ARK themselves

[mental basin]

Literally everyone is tearing Gen 2 and ARK 2 apart at this point. It's becoming a pattern here.

[bold dove]

Like, i get it at some points. I'm skeptical of Vin-Diesel ruining a beloved character of mine.
But 'this' is literally just fucking nickpicking at its finest.

[mental basin]

Nitpicking with evidence.

Genesis: Part 2 has very present biblical themes, moreso than before. With Rockwell convinced he's a God, talking about his divine work, etc. There was a half-miner-half-cultist running around at one point, and even some of the Biomes have biblical ties.

Dunno how you tie an 8-tit platypus in with the Holy Bible, though.

[bold dove]

Yes, i do understand this.
But this all suits Rockwell's character. And relatively, does suit the story of ARK.

[lyric tendon]

Sin of Lust

[mental basin]

Oh I'm not at all saying that it doesn't.

[bold dove]

I know you're not. But mazzy was.

[lyric tendon]

"becoming a god" stems from being an egomaniac so.. yeee

[mental basin]

I'm just interrupting the conversation and pointing out what I see like a jackass before disappearing, as usual.
Bonjour.

[bold dove]

Bonjour means hello

[mental basin]

I had a feeling.

-Bonjour.

[bold dove]

But what does that have to do with "Genesis-2 religion forcing is too much."

[lyric tendon]

that i dunno.... like i just said... i focused on the authors more than the whole ARK

i dont go deeper into Marc's interview, im more focused on the story itself as it is

[bold dove]

Wasn't really a interview. More just answering question randomly on Reddit

[lyric tendon]

((arent AMAs are just public interviews but i digress))

[bold dove]

No

By definition, a interview 'has' to be face to face.

FYI also, this isn't confirmed but it's pretty on the nose that the Titans are based off of Greek titans.
Greek titans created the Earth and gods. The gods rebelled out of spite and killed all of the titans, and the gods creating their own world.
ARK's version of titans destroyed the world and created their own image of the world, indirectly caused the creation of homo-deus's (gods) and they where the cause of their downfall. Afterwards, the last homo-deus (Helena) indirectly made a survivor recreating Earth in their image, being the ending of Extinction.
Again, isn't confirmed, but it's pretty on the nose.

[gusty turret]

Or they just decided haha funny godzilla rip off go brrrr and went with it

[lyric tendon]

tbh i'm leaning towards the "godzilla rip off" as well knowing the KT looks like monsterverse godzilla without the spines

[bold dove]

Y'all do understand there's a difference with the designers point of view, and the writers?

They most likely did just add them as a "haha godzilla reference" (not a ripoff, there's a difference) and told Marc to 'make lore out of this.'

[gusty turret]

We also made a huge robot to try and fight the big lizard

[bold dove]

That's more Pacific rim then Godzilla.

[gusty turret]

Mecha godzilla tho-

[bold dove]

Does the mek look like a fucking titan?

The mek design is more akin to the meks from Pacific Rim.

[lyric tendon]

more like Ultraman or Power Rangers' MegaZord than Mecha Godzilla

Ext. kinda reminiscent on those Tojo Godzilla or other kaiju flicks where every Kaiju is made by any form of pollution except for mothra, she's a god

[gusty turret]

Desert Titan is mothra

[bold dove]

Desert Titan is a male though.
And more inspired by a Manta-ray.

[lyric tendon]

the Desert Titan is more Rhodan and yes Rhodan is more bird than a giant sea pancake

[bold dove]

But Rhodan is cool.

The desert-titan is sad.

[gusty turret]

Is Rhodan that big hydra looking one I can't remember

[lyric tendon]

thats King Ghidorah

[gusty turret]

Oh

Close enough

[bold dove]

Not at all

Ghidorah has three heads and is yellow, and breaths lightning, and more resembles a dragon
Rhodan is red lava bird.

[hazy tide]

So question is a spaceship like the colony ship possible or not?

[gusty turret]

Irl? Fuck no

Not for like a long long time anyways

[hazy tide]

Now that I think about it how big is the colony ship?

Because us the player only explore a small part of it

[lyric tendon]

huge

[rigid palm]

~3k miles long, according to someone
I can’t remember who

100 arks
Each ark is ~30 miles long

Here

[ornate hull]

Using in-game assets if you put the dead earth up to the gen ship its about the same length of the US so about 2800 miles

And how the hell did you go back that far

[rigid palm]

the power of scrolling

[ornate hull]

Dam

[rigid palm]

and the discord search feature

[ornate hull]

Oh

Idk what that is

[rigid palm]

Wat

Next to pins theres a magnifying glass
It lets you search stuff

I just searched
In:#lore-nerdz 3000 miles

[ornate hull]

Huh

[gusty turret]

It was probably like 10 feet long or something

[thorn sierra]

Hey guys it's parasaur man uh I have a question

[rigid palm]

Hello parasaur man

I am perry the spoopy maewing

[thorn sierra]

Ah it has been a long while

Bro last time I talked to y'all was before gen 2 dropped

[gusty turret]

Whats the question

[bold dove]

Yes and No.
We have the technology and knowledge to create one irl, but we have our fingers up our ass with politics and wars.

[thorn sierra]

Idk if this should be in ark 2 or not but how do you think lore will play out in ark 2

Also what happened to Spartan 007

[bold dove]

Either or channels work really.
Personally, we have no fucking idea really so far. But all we know is Vin-Diesel is a character, and he 'may' be a Mary-sue character.

[teal kelp]

Gary stu*

[gusty turret]

You think we have the Technology to make artificial atmospheres, have 0 requirements for pressurizing and depressurizing when entering space, along with the artificial gravity required to support a ringworld that could hyperspace and the only thing stopping that is politics???

Also the amount of soil that would take would completely devestate ecosystems along with us having absofuckinglutely nowhere we could build it

We can't even get a guarantee regular rockets work half the time there's no way in hell an artificial ringworld colony ship is at all feasible any time in the near future unless aliens show up or some shit

[gusty turret]

Spoopywell is Spartan

[bold dove]

He asked for a ship 'like' the colony-ship to be possible. Not a exact replica, you dingle-berry.

[stiff estuary]

Possible to build not feasible

[bold dove]

This, exactly.

We 'have' the means to make a colony-ship that can hold shit tons of life. We just have no need since that would require nearly all of our resources on the planet.

[bold dove]

And yes, we can make artificial atmosphere in real life, just like how we've made artificial zero-G's.
And creating artificial gravity would be hard, but not impossible. That's literally why the rings spin on Genesis-2, they're producing artificial gravity by doing that.
And realistically, the ship would be constructed in space first, not on a planetoid.
It's possible, and we do have the technology to do so. But like bob said "Possible to build, but not feasible."

[lyric tendon]

if you want IRL artificial atmosphere, try google terarrium in a jug/jar

[tender wasp]

Humanity actually can do a lot but a lot of things get pushed down by the rich and powerful so they can keep their monopols and power.

[mental basin]

Why would we make one, though? We're all going to go extinct eventually.

Heat Death too. Even if we do somehow find a way to survive indefinitely that'll kill us off.

Not to mention suns, meteors, etcx.

[bronze turtle]

Barring the atmosphere issues and pressure issues…a ring ship is totally possible. Add a rotation to the rings and they would have gravity. Illusion of it anyway.

Luffy Solos Naruto

I’d love to hear an explanation on how it’s possible to teleport on the colony ship from teleporter to teleporter….DURING a jump from star system to star system. Teleporting during a faster than light jump??

[patent osprey]

Because yes

[ebon plover]

Friends how I’ve missed you

[ember solar]

because element

[patent osprey]

Ah yes the answer to anything ark cant explain

[tender wasp]

Element explains everything.. also only your engrammic Matrix get ported not your body.

I really should make my own art game and story...

Or at least continue on my story.

[patent osprey]

Anyone know what happened to cause that massive crater near sanctuary was it a meteor but when a ark lands it fits in there so was it caused by a ark taking off

[lyric tendon]

yep

[gusty turret]

Honestly think it would've been more effective to make more smaller Arks than like 50-75 big ones

Has anyone taken the time to count how many arks there are?

[lyric tendon]

I mean there is an ARK that is literally A U S T R A L I A

[gusty turret]

I wish Australia was the one that exploded on impact

[patent osprey]

What if a ark just slammed into the ocean

Oh yea no water

[lyric tendon]

I'm pretty sure the night side of Ext Earth is basically ice age 2.0 since that side is not exposed to the sun

[patent osprey]

True and putting the weight of a ark on ice it would crack it

Also Rockwell is stupid how did he not take over eden

[ember solar]

Just add a giant booster jet to manually spin the earth

[patent osprey]

I think the arks were stopping it from earth being more destroyed

[patent osprey]

But it would be smart if the arks did spin earth

[gusty turret]

The rings are separated he kinda couldn't

[patent osprey]

Meat bridge

[gusty turret]

True

He has every opportunity to trap us in the simulation and doesn't tho

So he is pretty stupid

[patent osprey]

And he could have not let us into the mission zones

He could have just ctrl alt delete us

[arctic bison]

in conclusion: rockwell is a idiot that has a ego too big for his capability to fight us

[gusty turret]

He's more of a poet than an intelligent fighter

[patent osprey]

His recipes hit hard tho

[gusty turret]

He be pulling out words I don't even understand taking advanced English every year

[open hill]

I wish the gen 2 missions were more lore based,
like how cool could it be to like have to fight through rockwells innardsor something, the missions just kinda seemed boring to me

[gusty turret]

Wtf is an abbatoir

[patent osprey]

I'd like to join Rockwell side if he was not a idiot

[arctic bison]

his only strength is confusing you with advanced words

[patent osprey]

Yep English in my 1st language and I cant understand him but I do suck at my own language

The reason he talks like that is because he was from the 16th century (idk if he is) and we dont use as many words as they did

[lyric tendon]

Same here

The only missions that fits the bill are Code Red and Survive the ARK

And the other mission with the Data Breaches

[lyric tendon]

Because the crew is there to contain him like a SCP

[lyric tendon]

It did when Helena or We activated the reseed protocol

[patent osprey]

Yea but why not do that in orbit

[lyric tendon]

Because the reduced landmass aka light weight prevents earth from spinning than its usual speed

It's physics

[ember solar]

I mean we dont even know how much different rockwells garden to the pre rockwell version, only part he has fully controlled i think is any part where he has turned the ship into himself but idk

[lyric tendon]

He stated in the ending that he indeed took over the ship but in the missions we or the crew managed to gain control of the vital life sustaining systems like water and purification, and the data that contains the engram for us and the creatures

Even the ability to detach the ring

[ornate hull]

Small story time

[lyric tendon]

TL;DR

[ornate hull]

So I'm in a cooking class and I get to bring food home but I normally just give it to a guy that doesn't like me on the buss
One month later he no longer hates me and were friends

Long story short I got rid of my bully by passive tameing him

[open hill]

Lmfao

[bold dove]

If you actually read the rest of the post. You'll see that i stated "It's possible, but not feasible."

[simple harbor]

Bruh moment

[pure cipher]

Is there a known timeframe for when Genesis part 2 took place in?

[tender wasp]

Not to long, only some years from Rockwells arrival on the ship and him taking over of the ship.

Regarding to Nidas notes the timeframe is not really long.

[median stream]

Little known fact, the ship was on a 3 hour tour.....
a 3 hour tour.....

[hollow void]

wait what

so the entire game

was a 3 hour tour

[harsh heart]

I don't know a thing about the lore so how is Rockwell in aberration and Gen 2?

[hollow void]

at least island center scorched aberration extinction rag valguero gen 1

[median stream]

wait....that was the minnow wrong boat haha

[hollow void]

idk he just is ok

[bold dove]

Never really explained. But it's hinted in the notes that he transfered himself post-Extinction.

[median stream]

after aberration crashed on extinction, rockwell makes his way to arrat prime and uploads himself to gen. though not mentioned anywhere

[hollow void]

ah

[harsh heart]

Ok that makes sense

This is a stupid question but is every story map on the ship?

[hollow void]

i think all of them where simulations

other than gen 1 and 2

[rigid palm]

No

[rigid palm]

The only one thats a simulation is gen 1

[hollow void]

oh ok ill be quite then

oh wait what

my poor poor been

[rigid palm]

Island-ab are arks
Ext is earth
Gen 1 is simulation
Gen 2 is life boat

[hollow void]

rip earth

what about the other maps

[rigid palm]

Ghost ping 👀

[rigid palm]

The free ones? Not canon

[hollow void]

thought so

what about aberration

i would think that was cannon

cuz rockwell

[rigid palm]

I just said ab is canon

[hollow void]

but i thought it was money

wait

OH

thats what u meant

[harsh heart]

What do yoy mean by ark?

[rigid palm]

A giant floating space station

[tender wasp]

Ark = space station with an artifical eco system like the Island to sustain live

[hollow void]

m yes to sustain live

[rigid palm]

Or in abs case, to try to kill you in as many possible ways

[tender wasp]

Abs was also an Ark which was partly destroyed and does not really work properly anymore (most Arks don’t anymore)

[gusty turret]

😒

[median stream]

Thousands of arks and reproduced consiousnes......whos to say Bob Denver "Gilligan" isn't among us haha

[gusty turret]

Did you say

Among us???????

[rigid palm]

Yesterday I found the most sus book at the library

Its called: imposters among us

[median stream]

thats the prequel

[gusty turret]

ඞඞඞඞඞ

Im gonna build among us in Ark

Colored hazmat suits

[safe sentinel]

Are the Titans technically corrupted when the player tames them

[bold dove]

They're really not even corrupted in the first-place.

[safe sentinel]

Not what I mean I mean does the player corrupt them by tameing them

Because they don't act how they should like corrupted creatures

[bold dove]

No, you just remove enough enough of their nodules that they're no longer part of the hivemind anymore. And needing to serve something, you're the closest thing to it.

[bold dove]

That's cause they're different.

[safe sentinel]

That's corrupting them tough

[bold dove]

Depends if you mean the definition, or the element corruption.

[safe sentinel]

The definition

[bold dove]

Then in a form, yes we are.
But they're not corrupted like the corrupted creatures are.

[safe sentinel]

They are in a way cause normally they won't attack the my but they will attack it if tamed like how corrupted raptors and rexs won't go after corrupted trikes even though the normal versions will go after non corrupted trikes

[bold dove]

That's just a gameplay mechanic

[whole sinew]

It's been a while since I read the notes but do they ever actually explain where the titans came from? I vaguely recall that KT was specifically created by the element to destroy the humans but I could be getting that backwards.

[bold dove]

That has nothing to do with lore.

[bold dove]

Yes, you're right.
Titans are beings of pure-element. And where manifested after feeling threatened by humanity.

[safe sentinel]

Wait are the 4 Titans at the plateu extinction takes place the only Titans ore where more made all over each with a kt to rule them

[bold dove]

There where more, but Santiago killed them all but the last 4.

[safe sentinel]

Maybe the simulations magmasaurs were inspired by a magma titan

[bold dove]

It's kind of a Attack on Titan thing.
There where the smaller titans, around the size of a rex-giga.
Then you have the 3 base-titans which acts as generals to the King-Titan. Which 'he's' the embodiment of element itself.

[bold dove]

Hella doubtful.

[whole sinew]

The Magmasaur note actually says that the magmasaur was supposed to be present on SE but was held back for the genesis simulation

[bold dove]

Yeah, but the chronicle notes are nothing to take serious, due to the inconsistency with them.

[whole sinew]

true true

[stiff estuary]

Lol

[bold dove]

I.E. How the hell is HLN-A on the fucking Island when she hasn't even been made yet till Genesis-1?

[heady tundra]

its a chibi OwO

[safe sentinel]

Wait since Rockwell injected himself with molten element did he have a bit of the kts conscience or maybe he was able to listen to the kts orders thus leading to his rampage

[stiff estuary]

So not real

[bold dove]

Nah, he's just fucking insane.

[heady tundra]

why complain about some fake decor helena

[stiff estuary]

No I dont think so

[bold dove]

He killed a whole village back on Scorched, and left a baby to their fate.

[heady tundra]

lmao he left the baby

[stiff estuary]

He led nerva and his men to a massacre

[safe sentinel]

If the Titans are made of element then why does a mek made of element do increased dmg

[bold dove]

Well 'that' he didn't know about. But he was more enthralled with what the hall-of-history was made of.

[bold dove]

Fight fire with fire.

[stiff estuary]

Rockwellium

[stiff estuary]

Wait wrong name

[bold dove]

Edmundium

[heady tundra]

meth

[safe sentinel]

Yes but they can somewhat controll it so they could just absorb it

[bold dove]

Not how that works, pal.

Element is a material that breaks all known laws of the universe.
It's both a solid, liquid, gas, and plasma.
It's both a inorganic, yet it reproduces in a organic way.
It's both a metal, yet alive.

[safe sentinel]

Did element give the snow owl mana and gasbags their abilitys or are they natral

[safe sentinel]

Living metal isn't all that imposible

[stiff estuary]

itS tHE FuTURe

[bold dove]

They evolved 'along side' element.
Instead of getting corrupted, element adapted to them in a symbiotic relationship.

[stiff estuary]

Hence they have weird stuff at the bottom of thier bodies

[safe sentinel]

So does that mean that wyverns have a similar thing to the owl and Manas where they have a bit of blue corruption in them unable to be seen that allows fire/lightning/poison to be expelled from the mouth

[bold dove]

No, they're just genetically engineered by humans.

[stiff estuary]

Ye

[safe sentinel]

Also what would Mei yin's reaction to the wyverns be

[bold dove]

Same as the rockdrake

[stiff estuary]

Mine

[bold dove]

Break the gameplay and fucking KO tame a wyvern.

[stiff estuary]

Mei yin has exploits

[bold dove]

Yeah, Mei-Yin is so badass that she KO tamed a rock-drake on Aberration.

[stiff estuary]

How

[safe sentinel]

No they were made by the arks the also could of put the thing I said about the blue corruption

[bold dove]

"Tranq arrows"

[stiff estuary]

more like forcetame

[bold dove]

Which the ARK's are made by humans, you dummy. 😛

[safe sentinel]

Sheer f*cling will

[safe sentinel]

But humans didn't influence the ai to where wyverns got made all they did was tell the ark to not let any tribes get too advanced with out a multitude of factors like if it's cause of beating the gardians

[bold dove]

The "A.I" isn't a ai

Overseers are Homo-Deus's, which used to be humans.

[safe sentinel]

Yes but that doesn't classify them as human anymore

[bold dove]

Doesn't mean they still didn't make them.

[safe sentinel]

Also how did aberration gain it's asexual digging terrors that are the reapers

[bold dove]

Just like wyverns

As a punishment.

[stiff estuary]

Radiation

[safe sentinel]

For who

Rockwell?

[stiff estuary]

The tek village ig

Just like how wyverns were made to destroy the city in scorched

[safe sentinel]

Maybe Rockwell made them like he did the shadowmanes and for the same reason

[bold dove]

They existed 'before' Rockwell even got onto the ARK

[stiff estuary]

They were around before rockwell turned himself into a monster

[safe sentinel]

Delaying the assault of anyone trying to strip him of his "god hood"

[bold dove]

Just....no....

[safe sentinel]

Ok this isn't lore related but duck it who would want a shadowmane irl as a pet

[bold dove]

I'd rather have a nameless.

[heavy sandal]

depends on if they are stinky

[stiff estuary]

Not me it would get snatched by the goverment

I would want a baby reaper that doesnt try to eat me

[safe sentinel]

I want a shadow mane so I could sneak up on people on Halloween and scare them

[bold dove]

[safe sentinel]

But you could tell them your studying it

[stiff estuary]

Im a kid

[safe sentinel]

And that they would get the study resaults

[stiff estuary]

no one would believe me

[safe sentinel]

Also it would only trust you enough for the research to happen

[stiff estuary]

True tho

But I just like baby reapers

The little shrimp

[safe sentinel]

Wait how did the other reapers come to be how many people where killed on aberation due to reapers bursting out

[stiff estuary]

Tons probably

[woven ether]

Hello

[bold dove]

The obelisks help keep their population in check.

[safe sentinel]

And how are the nameless able to summon them

[safe sentinel]

But there's still a boat load

[stiff estuary]

They are kinda the same species in a way

[bold dove]

And?

[stiff estuary]

In the code you get hints and stuff

[bold dove]

That's never been confirmed.

[bold dove]

That's just coding.

[woven ether]

Can someone fill me in on what everyone is talking about and some recent lore

[stiff estuary]

But they have super similiar summon commands

[stiff estuary]

And they help one another

[stiff estuary]

kinda sus isnt it

[bold dove]

Doesn't mean shit.

[stiff estuary]

its just a theory but still

[safe sentinel]

Maybe they have a call that is unable to be heard by humans but is able to be heard by reapers and nameless that means there's food over here and maybe the more nameless there are the more it sound like an actual reaper

[woven ether]

Are we talking about the similarities between reapers and namelesses

[safe sentinel]

No how nameless summon reapers

[heavy sandal]

you know how ravens make a bunch of noise near a dead animal to call wolves over to open the carcass? probably the same for nameless and reapers

[stiff estuary]

And how they are eerily similiar

[woven ether]

Hm maybe its a sent particle

[safe sentinel]

Maybe the nameless are Yellowstone's ravens and reapers are the wolfs

[stiff estuary]

Possibly

Anyways time to talk bout reapers vs rock drakes the apexes on ab

They are mortal enemies for a reason right?

[safe sentinel]

That's a nod to the yautjas and xenomorph xx121 the drake's being yautjas and the reapers the xenomorphs

[stiff estuary]

Predators vs xenomorphs hmm

But in lore why are rock drakes and reapers enemies

[safe sentinel]

Yeah the yautjas view the xenomorphs as the ultimate trophy

[stiff estuary]

ye

[safe sentinel]

Probably cause Drake need nameless venom for their kids and reapers are protecting their food finders

[stiff estuary]

I see

[woven ether]

Ok change of topic

Does this always happen

[stiff estuary]

What?

[woven ether]

Does the topic always change

So suddenly

[stiff estuary]

Yes

[safe sentinel]

Whitch note mentioned it

[bold dove]

Like, note 9-ish.

[heavy sandal]

10

her ravager dies, but the dragon gets ko'd

[safe sentinel]

K thx

What was the shelled beast the Drake killed anyway

[heavy sandal]

crab

[bold dove]

Crabs.

[lyric tendon]

literal "Force Tame"

[gusty turret]

Excuse you don't steal all that credit from Mei

[stiff estuary]

Mei yin uses console commands

[gusty turret]

She fought like over 90% of the titans with a few dinos and a crusty ass mek

[stiff estuary]

With console commands

[lyric tendon]

mei uses "killwilddinos"

[heavy sandal]

admincheat DestroyAll KaijuMinion_Character_BP_C

[open hill]

why is element called element ;-;

[bronze turtle]

because it makes Rockwell mad

[bold dove]

Because technically it's the apex element

[bronze turtle]

Element is just the name

there's no reason for it

Rockwell got all pissy about it because elements already exist

he called it Edmundium

[gusty turret]

It has the properties of every single element on the periodic table why would it need a name other than e l e m e n t

It is the element

It would make sense if element was actually something organic seeing as if it wasn't it's whole growing itself over time would break one of the laws of the known universe

Even then it doesn't fit into the parameters of any form of reproduction because no energy is consumed in the process of it replicating itself

I wish there was actually some explanation to how anything about element works instead of just haha funny everything material go brrrr

[lyric tendon]

there are things that are left unexplained

[gusty turret]

I feel like the main driving force of the story deserved an explanation but that may just be me

This is like some Todd Howard type shit, it just works

We aren't even certain about the meteor thing as to how Element got to Earth in the first place are we?

Pls wildcard give us anything

[lyric tendon]

same how most meteors end up in earth

[plain plover]

We have a little bit of explanation in how element works and that is delivered entirely from extinction. Thing is a mguffin metal, all the worlds problems would be solved by it if it was real. It can take on any property which is why it was used in everything from warp drives to light poles.it can be harder than a solid brick of diamond and at the same time be as flexible as rubber, it can be converted from different states of matter, reaching the state of plasma extremely quickly. It’s the next best source of power to a Dyson sphere, able to make enough energy to tear holes in space and time with an incredibly small amount of it. It is also extremely dense and conducts electricity well, which is why tek helmets were basically quantum computers. It’s that thing that makes Ark’s world not our world.

[lyric tendon]

this

[gusty turret]

Yeah like i said, the Todd Howard explanation, it just works

[teal kelp]

Element tearing holes in space and time

What

[gusty turret]

cough cough Gravity grenades

[teal kelp]

Oh that

But what does it have to do with time

[gusty turret]

Good question

[rigid palm]

It sounds cooler

[ornate hull]

Gravity can affect the flow of time

[gusty turret]

If im interpreting Google right at all being the victim of a tek gravity grenade would very shortly slow down the flow of time for you but you'd probs be dead anyways so idk if that matters

[plain plover]

That’s how the warp drive works, and teleporters. You can’t fold space without folding time

Santiago’s teleporter works differently though, it deconstructs things into molecules then moves them at really high speeds through matter and stuff. People tend to call this kind of teleportation “dying” but with the implant and stuff having some connection to the soul, we can assume that didn’t happen

[tired osprey]

Case #16824 @bronze turtle has been muted for 2 hours.
Reason: Mass Tagging

[tired osprey]

Case #16833 @bronze turtle has been muted for 2 hours.
Reason: Mass Tagging

[tired osprey]

Case #16850 @mental adder has been muted for 2 hours.
Reason: Mass Tagging

[fallow sapphire]

Nice, 3 in a few hours

[lyric tendon]

mostly scams

[fallow sapphire]

Yeah

[bronze turtle]

so I was wondering, who is Helena Walker

Helena Walker is a person iirc

thanks Windooww

[fallow sapphire]

Um… k?

[lyric tendon]

someone needs to need to lay off the edibles

[bronze turtle]

I'm having a schizophrenic break

[lyric tendon]

i wish the made the skins like the mutated survivor skin and the dino skin can be applied to other armor slots since it overwrites the whole thing anyway

[unborn beacon]

Yea
Otherwise i would be the flying dino
Using the glider skin as well

[modern vale]

I consider all dlc maps as canon
Mainly because after everything seen on other arks, for example space whales and dolphins that live can in the vacuum of space, is it out of hand for a big baboon to exist

[rigid palm]

You might consider them canon

Doesn’t mean they are

[bold dove]

You can have a head-canon all you want. But it doesn't make it true.

[lyric tendon]

more or less half canon since the URE (people who make the ARKs) and the Federation (the people who made the Gen ship) collaborated on the 2 project that preserve/save humanity

but the entire story/canon are always revolves about the core "Story ARKs" aka the Paid DLCs

[tender wasp]

The dlc arks are more like a „this are Arks that also exist besides the story arks but have no impact on the main story itself“

[gusty turret]

There's no reason to believe the other Arks don't exist but there's no reason to believe they do exist either

Weren't they gonna make Ragnarok canon at one point early on?

[ember solar]

They did originally plan for explorer notes

[mental basin]

Why are we bringing up soul of all things?

ARK is a mainly scientific game, soul doesn't fit in here.

[gusty turret]

How doesn't it exactly?

Did you pay attention to the whole homodeus part or anything?

[prime fractal]

Soul as in conciseness also don't you know what a homo deus is?

[gusty turret]

Home of deus

[mental basin]

Are you seriously asking whether or not I know what a Homo Deus is?

I am a man of LORE! Yes, I do know what a Homo Deus is.

[topaz edge]

lore pog

yay i like lore

[plain plover]

That’s like a huge part of the whole homo deus and reviving thing

The one who waits failed to revive Santiago as his soul was out of reach, but did manage to revive Diana. Through this we learn it ain’t some whole “that iteration is dead, but a new one is created with their memories up to that point” shenanigan, but that our soul is actually transferred to a new body on death.

Though I do think that the first scenario is probably what happened in Genesis 2.

[gusty turret]

Why do we say a new body tho? Because Diana very much comes back in the same body

Also how tf is Santiago out of reach when he died way more recently than Diana-

[plain plover]

Yeah that was called “a unexplained contrivance”

[unborn beacon]

Or
Hear me out
Plot

[gusty turret]

Plots only good when it makes sense

[gusty turret]

Like how apparently the Eagles could do everything but deliver the ring to Mordor

Damn bro thanks for helping us kill a few orcs, you down to help us destroy this ring to kill the main threat to all of Middle Earth which you could do extremely easily?

Nah we good have fun with that tho

[bold dove]

When they mean "new bodies" they probably mean transfering ones mind to a new body that's identical to the last.

[tender wasp]

No caus his consciousness was to far gone/to much lost of his engram. There is never any talk of soul.

Why it works with Diana.. no one knows.. more of her engram might have been intact in her implant, Santiago‘s might have been damaged to much in the fight.

At least this makes sense as explanation. The soul stuff doesn’t at all an they never talk of souls in the lore.

At least not until the end of extinction.

[lyric tendon]

Arent meks especially the mega mek requires more than 1 people to control?

[plain plover]

Mega mek did, but the one who waits made it only need one person to control

[tender wasp]

In lore the mega mek needs more than one person to control it if it has not an exeptional good pilot. Never seen an other explanation that says otherwise in the notes. You need to make it out of 4 Meks still and in lore Diana was such an exceptional pilot, she could replace the two missing pilots. Has nothing to do wirh the one who waits.

Cause we are special we might be even a better pilot to controll all alone.

[plain plover]

no, thats... actually the explanation in the notes

"The gift for you, the weapon, once required four pilots to control it. but I have configured it to only require one!"

that's a rough recollection of the quote but it's there

[tender wasp]

Oh ok, must have missed that.

[gusty turret]

Which is why i say Diana died of an aneurysm in the wastes and Mei dies soon after and that's why we never hear anything else of them

[median stream]

Out of all the gaps, not knowing Diana's and Mei's end was the worst. But....imagination makes for the greatest stories. Did they make it? Did they die. a thousand stories to be told.

.....but it wasn't an aneurysm.....they went down swinging lol 😉

[gusty turret]

It very well could've been an aneurysm

[median stream]

a thousand stories 🙂

[mental basin]

Yeah, they made it.

Diana and Mei were the ones who beamed Helena into the Genesis Simulation, as confirmed by HLN-A.

And when questioned about the duo, the devs said something along the lines of "Some stories haven't been finished yet." or "We haven't seen the last of some characters."
This could also be hinting to Vin Diesel, but it was a question about M and D.

Actually, this is what be leads me to believe we'll be seeing them in ARK 2.

[gusty turret]

The devs very well could've just been answering the question completely wrong

They're Wildcard afterall

You seen them try to patch meshing and only make meshing worse in the process?

[winged shoal]

I have a theory about what happend to mei and diana; I think that when they beamed helena up there, they beamed themselves too, but helena protected them from rockwell by just leaving them in stases, like there, but not there, so they wouldn't try to kill him , and get themselves killed in the process; doing this so they would likely wake up on the ark 2 planet when the ship crashes

[gusty turret]

Helena didn't chose who woke up and who didn't it was who beat the simulation

I don't even think you could beat the simulation until Rockwell took over

Plus considering the how many year gap between the game and the lore?

They're def dead

[lyric tendon]

no one knows what happened to Mei and Diana the same way no one knows if Nida is dead or alive

[gusty turret]

If Mei and Diana are alive they must be running from a snail rn

[tender wasp]

I hope they don't return in Ark 2. No need to slaughter ne next chars... and that we will see them again could also have been a hint to the animated series. Were does HLNA even state they beamed Helena into the simulation ?

[gusty turret]

If she does i have no recollection of it

Seeing as Helena herself was never in the simulation as well-

[fallow sapphire]

It was in the gen chronicles

Which obviously have to be taken with a grain of salt, as they also mess with the timeline

[sudden gate]

my first time of playing on the island map is the best experience

[gusty turret]

The only gen chronicle i care about is magmasaurs on scorched

[sudden gate]

I love dinosaurs the most, not the futuristic creatures

[fallow sapphire]

Sometimes i wish i could experience the island for the first time again

[sudden gate]

It is hard once you have experienced everything in that map

[fallow sapphire]

True, but playing in hardcore has definitely made it a memorable experience

[gusty turret]

I never wanna experience island again

[fallow sapphire]

Why?

[gusty turret]

Hell

Its like Vietnam but with dinosaurs

[sudden gate]

it was one of my best experience when I saw a t rex in game for the first time in my life

[fallow sapphire]

Fair

[rigid palm]

Theres 30 billion other dino games out there
Ark is unique because its a mix of dino and sci fi

[sudden gate]

the first time experience is so great

[gusty turret]

I think the isle is way more unique ngl-

[tender wasp]

Ah ok so may be not really canon.

[gusty turret]

The isle is spoopy

[fallow sapphire]

Depends on if you want to go with the new writers lore or Marc’s

[bold dove]

Why not both?

[tender wasp]

I go more with Marc's.

[fallow sapphire]

Same

[sudden gate]

I just simply want to survive in the dinosaur ages of the old days

[gusty turret]

I like some of the new writers stuff but not all

[tender wasp]

But anyway have changed to much for my lore and with the chronicles.. someone mentioned they might be only semi-canon.

[gusty turret]

I preferred when Rockwell just gargled his new vocabulary is too big

[tender wasp]

Ark never was planned as "dino-age" game

[bold dove]

But.....ARK was literally never even set in "dino-age."

[tender wasp]

Has allways been SiFi.

[gusty turret]

I would kill for Ark and Isle to be besties and for us to get play as the dino officially supported and the hypo spino and stuff

Hypo spino would be the new giga 100000%

[tender wasp]

Sadly the chronicles opend even more plot holes at some point and contradict here and there.

[sudden gate]

that's why the island is my most favorite map

[fallow sapphire]

Yeah when it comes to adding genesis to my storyline i will be modifying the story a bit

[bold dove]

Again, don't recall floating obelisks and implant in arm in the Jurassic/Triassic period.

[sudden gate]

I did not buy the genesis 2

[sudden gate]

they are also cool

[gusty turret]

Gen 1 was cool because it was just a simulation so it didn't really need much explanation with Ark park and pixark existing and all, then they had to add the Space ship that's bigger than the US

[bold dove]

But by your logic of "futuristic creatures" shouldn't they also be removed?

[ebon plover]

Hey friends when does the extra life livestream start?

[gusty turret]

Idk sometime probably

[fallow sapphire]

Nov 6th i think?

[bold dove]

Around 10:00AM on the 6th i think?

[tender wasp]

Yeah Gen 1 did not mess much with lore and as sim at least everthing yould be explaind as "It was only a SIM" at least and most glictches were more some anecdotes to players.

[bold dove]

Pacific.

[sudden gate]

well I was guessing those futuristic technology are required to send a modern human to a dino age when I first played this game

[tender wasp]

The space ship in Gen 2, as nice as it looks was a big dissappointment for me cause it did press Ark Story in a direction I personaly do not like.

[rigid palm]

Not very modern or dino age
More like, thousands if not millions of years after modern age

[tender wasp]

Actually a realy dino Age game would not have humans and there you can play The Isle, Beasts of Bermuda or Path of Titans.

[gusty turret]

Oooo i think i heard of Beasts of Bermuda

[tender wasp]

All games you play as dino.

[bold dove]

Fair enough, but why not allow a 50/50 of dinosaurs and futuristic stuff?
It'll get hella bland eventually with 'only' dinosaurs.
Do you know how fucking limited you are with creativity with dinosaurs?
Then there's some people that'll go on a pissy fit, due to them being inaccurate, which limits even more of the creativity of creating these creatures.
But having made up creatures allows them to be more creative about stuff, and people wont get on a hissy fit due to them being inaccurate, since they're made up.

[gusty turret]

Or just play as dino mod ark

[bold dove]

"It all goes down on November 6th at 10am PDT"

Called it!

[gusty turret]

I would prefer Ark just not exist at all

Give me the thousands of hours of my life back, please and thank you

[tender wasp]

I am actually pissy they remove most of the SiFi part in Ark 2 (regarding to things you can use.. Tek) and make it primtive.. and Onga bonga.

[bold dove]

I'm personally happy with the hours i've spent on ARK.
It's like being married.
You don't always agree with your spouse, but you still love each other.

[gusty turret]

Or you hate each other and only stay together for the kids

[tender wasp]

I also never understood why people consider Ark a dinosaur game and then complain about the SiFi stuff.. when you see floating obelisks and implants as one of the first things in the game..

[gusty turret]

I think this is more accurate for Ark

[tender wasp]

I only regret the hours spent in Gen/Gen 2.. cause they were wasted.

[gusty turret]

I played like 3 days on gen 2 and maybe a week or 2 on gen 1, suck it loser

[tender wasp]

maybe 1-2 weeks on Gen 1.. maybe 1 on Gen 2.. if even that much.

[fallow sapphire]

Honestly I was happy with my time on gen1/gen2, until it hit the grind for alpha boss

[gusty turret]

I didn't even wanna do gamma master controller

After your tribe fails like 5 times because they wont listen it gets tiring

[fallow sapphire]

Imagine having a tribe

[gusty turret]

It wasn't on official or sp nothing we had was mega mutated

But we couldve done it easily with reapers and rhinos but nOoOoOo we had to use rexes and feroxs because big Mr.Official man said it was whats best

[fallow sapphire]

As one does

Ive never been able to use that strat cause I play solo

[gusty turret]

One guy killed himself with a tek rifle somehow

[fallow sapphire]

Blast damage

Found out it was a thing in code red

[gusty turret]

Yeah i still dk how he did it tho-

He must've been shooting right at his feet or something

Oh yeah he came in with no armor or meds

[fallow sapphire]

Brilliant

Idk why i have never thought to do that

[gusty turret]

And he was on the yuty so even worse

[fallow sapphire]

The only strat that has consistently worked for me is ghillie with cactus broth, and bring full rexes to kill everything

But this is coming from a solo player

[gusty turret]

Instead of admitting he was wrong and allowing us to do the fight the easier way Big Mr.Official man paid 20$ to get us sent into the fight with lvl 20 million rexes

He was a dipshit

[lyric tendon]

because marketing... that's why

[gusty turret]

He talked about how we needed personal rooms and everything and then kept stealing stuff from people

[rigid palm]

Mr. official did rmt?

[gusty turret]

Whats rmt?

[rigid palm]

Real money transaction
Against coc

[gusty turret]

No it was unofficial-

He donated to get stuff

[rigid palm]

[gusty turret]

How tf you think he gonna get lvl 20 million rexes on official?

[rigid palm]

I never thought it was official

[gusty turret]

Are donations against tos on unofficial?

[rigid palm]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[gusty turret]

Curse you perry the maewing

[rigid palm]

Grggrgrggrgggr

[gusty turret]

Maewings have mommy milkers

[tender wasp]

No one of my friends really was much into Gen/Gen 2.. my bestie played Gen 2 for a day and stopped again, cause they did not like it at all.

Perry is Niplosaurus.

[gusty turret]

You already know somebody on the ship a got big ol schlurp of maewing milk

[fallow sapphire]

Understandable, if it wasn’t for me wanting to see how they ended it I probably would have left pretty early on

But after i did find out i decided to push to beating alpha cause why not

[gusty turret]

So is it like canon all maewings are nonbinary or something

[rigid palm]

[gusty turret]

Gimmie some milk

[tender wasp]

I mostly only hunted down the notes.. did some missions and was dissappointed ther was no real story in the so called "story" missions I even did not care to beat Rockwell ingamen and simply watched a Vid of the end.. where the last cut scene made me even more meh..

Maes are genderless.

[rigid palm]

But is that canon

[gusty turret]

Intersex?

[rigid palm]

[gusty turret]

I think intersex is the right word or it seems fitting at least

[tender wasp]

I would say so. They are engenieered creatures after all.

[gusty turret]

Its wild how everything except the space fish are genetically engineered

[rigid palm]

Theres meks

[gusty turret]

Thats mechanically engineered

So technically true but not the point

Well also the regular owls velos gachas and manas wouldn't be genetically engineered right since they evolved to be that?

So theres like 6 creatures in the game that aren't brought back from the dead or made up overall

Didn't the last known megalania only die like 200 years ago?

I could've swore i read something about that somewhere but probably wrong

Jerboas are real actually-

[rigid palm]

Otters too

[gusty turret]

That's one thing im certain of

No otters are fictional

Have you ever seen one irl?

[rigid palm]

So otterly’s life is a lie?

[gusty turret]

Yeah

[tender wasp]

Otterlys are true.. they are dangerous creatures XD

[rigid palm]

👀

[gusty turret]

Sharks aren't real either the government just wants you to be scared of the ocean

[rigid palm]

I’m very sad at how small megalodons are in ark

[gusty turret]

They're keeping the Subnautica virus hidden from us

How else would they put them in every small river to harass new people trying to traverse if they were any bigger?

As if piranhas and baryonxs and kapros and spinos didn't do that already

I get why the mislabeled the voidwyrm now, its because Helena isn't there to correct them

Or maybe thats why she can't come with us, they mislabeled it and she would get too upset if she came with

[bold dove]

In a few years, this'll unironically become the case.

[sudden gate]

we all play ark on xbox, right?

[lyric tendon]

wrong chat

[sudden gate]

this chat is the only active one

[bold dove]

This is for lore

[sudden gate]

other chats are dead. maybe this is an old discord server

[bold dove]

It's not even a year old.

[rigid palm]

Looking at the history of this channel, especially directly after gen 2 came out, I’d say the topic of this channel is very loose

[lyric tendon]

most likely for Lore and shitposting

[bold dove]

Not for a recruitment channel

[sudden gate]

but ark is a old game... i expect its official discord server is as old as it

[bold dove]

Firstly, not really. It's only 'just' turned 6 years old.
The discord only came out under a year ago.

[digital flower]

Discord is older I think

either 2014 or 2015

oh wait your talking about the server? Then yeah I have no idea how old the server is but I don't think the discord server is as old as ark

[tender wasp]

The official discord is maybe a year old. The inofficial Ark discord exists way longer. This one is not really old.

[plain plover]

This one was made august last year, in fact the lore nerdz anniversary is coming up soon

[formal vector]

Please be mindful of posting off topic in certain threads. #general chat is where we mostly hang out for off ark topics. This thread is for Ark lore related chats

[lyric tendon]

Tbh this is a general chat for Lore fans

[formal vector]

Just trying to keep the trolls in line 😎

[tired osprey]

Case #16890 @bronze turtle has been muted for 2 hours.
Reason: Posting an unauthorised Discord invite link

[gusty turret]

Me talking about Maewing mommy milkers and being unharmed by the mod:

[tender wasp]

I‘ll tell otterly to punish you 😉

[gusty turret]

Again, don't threaten me with a good time🙄

[wind imp]

[teal kelp]

sus cat

[mellow token]

So why is nobody talking about the Mammoth's butthole

[ember solar]

because its gone forever now

[mellow token]

I think it should make a comeback every year, like the Mcrib

[ember solar]

make it a halloween skins that are just the pre tlc models that would be scary

[mellow token]

^ sexy*

[ember solar]

scexy

[mellow token]

Lol

[tired osprey]

Case #16906 @bronze turtle has been muted for 2 hours.
Reason: Mass Tagging

[gusty turret]

I do think pre tlc skins would be interesting

The old argy was horrid but i miss it

[mellow token]

Facts!!@gusty turret

Old argy waaay better

Doesn't look like a pigeon.....

[ember solar]

old argy is vulture new argy is like an eagle

[lyric tendon]

Argy is supposed to be a condor since their fossil is in south america

basically a mix of both eagle and vulture

[ember solar]

so we should just mash the skins together

[lyric tendon]

ARK was never meant to be accurate anyway

even now the spino is still a JP spino not looked like the ever evolving real thing and the dilo is still the small JP nedry dilo

[median stream]

The Magnasaur should take damage in water and rain.
🙂

[bold dove]

No.

[lyric tendon]

Magmasaur is already squishy enough to get chewed on by a giga

[median stream]

Reapers take damage in light, its a fair trade off for the magnasaurs op status

[lyric tendon]

Magmasaurs is not OP, their melee and damage resistence is shit

[median stream]

they replace the anky and dodi.....kinda op those also cant fight. its not the only point to judge on

[fallow sapphire]

first of all they dont take damage from light, just are weakened by it, and second only by charge light

[lyric tendon]

Their range attack is strong but they are still squishy

[lyric tendon]

WRONG

Ankys are still used for flint and Doeds are still used for stone = Sparkpowder = Gunpowder

Magmas are good for metal

[median stream]

ankys are not fighters being squish has notihing to do with it

[lyric tendon]

They are not meant to

Same with Magmas

[fallow sapphire]

if your complaint about magmas is they replace dodis and ankys, then i think your attention should be pushed to the stryder

[median stream]

oh stryders are completly op and kill the game. but im talking about magmasaurs

dont think that slave to a dedi box wont get patched, enjoy it now lol

[lyric tendon]

Still... Magmasaurs 👏 are 👏 not 👏 OP

[median stream]

yes they are. lol they collect more stone and metal making the anky and dodi useless they need a nerf

[fallow sapphire]

by that logic gigas shouldnt be a thing because they do tons more damage then rexes

just because something is better doesnt mean it needs a nerf

[lyric tendon]

No.. I already type that again

Anky is still better in flint and Doeds are still better in stone than Magma

And magmas are still ez dead by a wild giga

[fallow sapphire]

if its insanely better sure, but magmas arent a crazy amount better then ankys or dodis, so i dont see a problem

[median stream]

gigas cant get into boss fights, making them just useful in a handful of situations. rexs are still needed. or theris

i see you both keep switching to other dinos instead of the one im talking about so until others get on ill let you 2 deflectors go lmao

[fallow sapphire]

its called examples

[lyric tendon]

I dunno what are you arguing about

I am just saying Magmas are not OP and i already stated proof why it's not

[fallow sapphire]

ankys are still better then magmas anyway especially with the new autoharvest, and they have a higher weight reduction

and magmas dont reduce the weight of stone unlike doedics

[median stream]

because iv givin proof why it is op, im not asking for your opion to have my right to mine. i was just making a statement about a dino, you started arguing giving reasons im wrong.

well.....your wrong lmao

[lyric tendon]

Also, ALSO ankys and doeds can go to tighter spots than Magmas

For example if you want to harvest crystal in Rag canyon, the anky is better than magma

[fallow sapphire]

so you're expecting to start a controversial topic and it not turn into a debate?

[lyric tendon]

🤦‍♂️

Also "you're"

[fallow sapphire]

oh shoot, grammar

probably the one thing I have always been bad at

[lyric tendon]

Oof i got a double kill and a friendly fire lmao

[limber snow]

Ive been thinking and is it possible that valguero was aberration before the Tek bomb, it would kinda make sense.

[lyric tendon]

No because Val is created after ab

Plus Official Modded ARKs are not canon

[limber snow]

Just cuz the Devs created it after ab doesn't mean it isn't related

[lyric tendon]

Nothing is proven that Val is Ab Just because Nakartas add the Ab zone

[limber snow]

Before ab became ab, there was an underground area that had been mentioned in the notes

And also the portal being constructed

[lyric tendon]

Ab became Ab when the Tek people Nuke'd the overseer without knowing the existence of the ARK hence the ARK destabilized

They created the portal after they realized they are in space

[limber snow]

Oh really

Damn it, theory destroyed :(

[lyric tendon]

Read the notes, dont run them

[limber snow]

Run them?

[lyric tendon]

"note runs"

[limber snow]

I'm not one of those pvpers who gets 2 hours of sleep a night to not lose their progress on official

I enjoy the game for what it was meant to be not what they made it

[bold dove]

Dude, the custom-ark's aren't even canon.

They're just fanmade maps ported to become a official map.
If they 'were' canon, then they wouldn't even be separated in their own "custom-ark" category.

[limber snow]

Okay thanks

[sharp lantern]

What if this entire time on ark you were just dreaming ._.

[tired osprey]

Case #16957 @bronze turtle has been muted for 2 hours.
Reason: Mass Tagging

[mental basin]

We're not.

ARK thankfully didn't pull the cheap dream lore on us.

[bold dove]

Not gonna lie, i expected The Island to end like how Genesis-1 did when they revealed that ARK will be getting a ending.

Just also realized that ARK's lore is pretty on point with Maze-Runners.

[mental basin]

I have a question for you.

What is your favorite and least favorite Ascension cutscene?

[bold dove]

Scorched. 😛

[mental basin]

Predictable response.

[bold dove]

But in seriousness, honestly.....probably Aberration.
They're all good, but Aberration's is honestly just a light show and doesn't show anything important to the lore.
Though i'd also have to say Genesis-2's santiago part.

[mental basin]

Something tells me that this is the easy part. (Read as if a bag of gravel was speaking.)

[bold dove]

And the inhuman groan. 👁️ 👄 👁️

"HMM!!"

[mental basin]

"Uwah~ Respawned again, uwu."

I hope I get ran over by a semi truck.

[bold dove]

Funny enough, Japanese Santiago sounds more like what the OG santiago would've sounded like.

I've listened to the Japanese voicelines for Genesis-2.

[mental basin]

Link?

[bold dove]

Dev-kit

Might have the files somewhere.

[mental basin]

I honestly feel like Extinction,'s is my favorite Ascension out of all of them. The original one, before they absolutely butchered it and left it to rot. My least favorite Ascension by far is Genesis: Part 1's. It was just shoddy all around. Soundtrack was iffy. Looked iffy. Too short. Didn't segway into Gen 2 very well.

I just really, really dislike Genesis: Part 1's Ascension.

[bold dove]

Sent you it

[bold dove]

Yeah, you just dislike Genesis 1 in general.

[mental basin]

I do. But even completely disconnecting the Ascension cutscene from the DLC itself, I still hate it.

[lyric tendon]

Send me up the anime santiago bit as well

[ornate hull]

Gen 1 credit music is a banger

[ember solar]

I like the aberration ascension better than the island, better visuals and music in my opinion and is effectively the same thing

God damn it how the fuck did i write scorched instead of ab

[lyric tendon]

scorched ascension, yes

[gusty turret]

Ngl the gen 2 ascension was godly until Vindiago woke up

[fallow sapphire]

rEsPaWnEd AgAiN

[mental basin]

Literally me when I wake up every morning.

[fallow sapphire]

I wake up every morning and say “Something tells me, this is the easy part”

[gusty turret]

Waking up is the hardest part of the day tho

Maybe i just have depression

I wake up then the rest of the day is just autopilot

I took dumb kid classes so i just get to sit and sleep most the time

[fallow sapphire]

Sleep… that sounds amazing

[lyric tendon]

waking up like you are drowning is the worse way of waking up

[formal vector]

Not dumb. Life is hard. School is hard. Sometimes our bodies need rest. And sometimes they need other things. Talk with your doctor. 🖤 you never know what might be going on.

[gusty turret]

No i took the dumb people classes, for people behind, on purpose, so i could nap and get a free easy math credit, you misinterpreted i think

They talk so slow and Everything is a completion grade

Its wonderful

[formal vector]

Well in that case let’s not refer to them as dumb people classes because that’s not kind 😉

But I understand needing easier days in class.

Had a teacher in high school who let me nap in the empty office or eat or catch up on other homework during his class. Probably wouldn’t have made it through without those breaks.

[gusty turret]

I want nap time back from kindergarten

Roll out those little mats and sleep for the last 45 minutes of the day

This is nap time lore

Do you think Helena had nap time before she was revived with the engramatic matrix or whatever

[lyric tendon]

You know what is the most Hardcore?

Hardcore on any public SE server (official/unofficial)

Bonus Hardcore if Prim+

[gusty turret]

Scorched and Island hardcore are basically impossible

Abb is hard but doable

[fallow sapphire]

Oh, I’m screwed then

[ember solar]

Not impossible

Just requires either lots of luck, patience or skillz

[fallow sapphire]

Think that should be an and, not an or

[ember solar]

Yeah, probably

[tender wasp]

Hardcore you have to play way more careful.

And if you die of a bug it will be way more frustrating.

[ember solar]

Scorched will be a lot easier purely because the boss is much easier

[fallow sapphire]

Most definitely

[ember solar]

And since you can always make a new character in hardcore, dying to a raptor straight away doesnt actually do much

[lyric tendon]

It be harder if it's in a public server tho

[fallow sapphire]

If i didnt have to restart on the island if i die on scorched, i would agree

[gusty turret]

Build a lot of spike walls is my best guess

[tender wasp]

Hardcore should have been canon. It also adds a different way of playing.

[gusty turret]

Hardcore was canon till Helena ascended

[fallow sapphire]

Literally my base

[ember solar]

I mean ark bosses especially island and expansion pack dlc are just annoying damage checks with no real strategy involved besides a few where you can use shotgun in a cheeky spot but on official timer is too short to do solo anyway so get lucky or lose

[gusty turret]

Yeah the bosses fking suck

Id rather go play warframe if i wanna fight a big spider and actually be challenged by it

[fallow sapphire]

They are possible, gosh darn difficult but possible

[ember solar]

Yeah but the type of difficulty they provide isnt really fun

[tender wasp]

Sadly it is not anymore.. was way better.. without making respawning canon..

[fallow sapphire]

Somewhat agreed, but at the same time beating it would be the biggest flex

[ember solar]

Just shows everyone how much you wasted your life breeding, not how skilled you are

And i dont trust ark for no bs deaths for that long of playtime

[tender wasp]

Ark never really was about skill.. sadly.. more like "Who has the strongest dino."

[lyric tendon]

Or "having the longest hours"

Like spending your hours AFK is a skill lmao

[tender wasp]

lol

[fallow sapphire]

I mean after spending 6k+ hours finishing ark with respawning, there isnt a ton left to do

But i get your points, bosses are definitely more reliant on the creatures

Which is the one reason the cmc is my favorite boss, you are forced to the ground having to survive

[lyric tendon]

Aside from cheesing like brood and rockwell

[fallow sapphire]

Imagine cheesing

[lyric tendon]

Basically the majority of hardcore PVP players

[fallow sapphire]

Fair

But that makes it so much more boring

[tired osprey]

Case #16986 @real fossil has been muted for 2 hours.
Reason: Mass Tagging

[ornate hull]

@Mass Tagging

[reef hinge]

@bronze turtle

Oh I tagged Mass

[teal kelp]

Goodbye

[reef hinge]

Was fun