general-chat

[uneven ermine]

But yep

[manic rock]

It's fun to scream "SHOW ME WHAT YOU'VE GOT", and cease all activity around.

[uneven ermine]

Zealot gets big hammer

[gloomy void]

Wheres my nurgle class at Fatshark. Smh my head. I want the fat man himself

[bronze sequoia]

Sabertooth is notoriously bad at post launch content, look at WWZ

[fair bridge]

melee psyker....... bupped....... wawow..........................

[limber zealot]

Oh yeah they do

I forgot

I don't really touch zealot

[uneven ermine]

Fair

[thick fog]

Ogryn got like small nerfs

[slate prawn]

Heretic

[thick fog]

not too breaking anyway

[white vale]

I WANT THESE KARKERS DEAD 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

[uneven ermine]

I’m a iron breaker and warrior priest man myself

[lilac crag]

ogryn/arby changes are small touch ups. the core playstyle is the same.

[bronze sequoia]

Damn man I just want a warhammer game I can play as a Khornate

[fading otter]

Look at SnowRunner, more dlc than actual game content

[fallen abyss]

Champion of Khorne or I retire

[limber zealot]

I like WHC, Bounty Hunter, and Warrior Priest

[green beacon]

not enough remove them from the game

[round mica]

glad he didn’t get kneecapped tbh

[limber zealot]

Zealot is just a little gimmicky for me

[uneven ermine]

I like zealot victor

[terse walrus]

They wont even give Vet the stubber thats literally in their artwork

[royal badge]

Is it much different than the various different patterns for autoguns or lasguns though? They just spiced it up a bit by making it a falchion

[uneven ermine]

I preferred warrior priest for the double melee

[bronze sequoia]

THE BLOODY ONE SPEAKS TRUE

[lilac crag]

Here's a glimpse, not the full details!

As an example, we’re reducing Remote Detonation’s charges from 3 to 2 but reducing the cooldown, Execution Order’s damage boost will be slightly reduced, and Razor-Jaw Augment’s bleed stacks will be slightly reduced. We're also reducing the Arbiter's base toughness.

this is what quickpaw had to say about arbites

[limber zealot]

I'm mostly an elf player tho so I haven't played a lot of saltz in general

[urban orbit]

Does fatshark said anything about how many more updates the game will recieve? since its the last free update? of am I misundertanding something

[royal badge]

Knives

[limber zealot]

My elf is like +95 and my saltzpyre is level 32

[uneven ermine]

Give zealot Biunty hunters gun as a ability

“A holy bolt round” or something

[tired compass]

did she confirm if new Arbites cosmetics are being added?

[royal badge]

This is the last free update???

[white vale]

You can get hit and pretend that you planned it

[limber zealot]

I mean the low health stuff

[strong venture]

Was hoping for a hotshot or a longlas TBH. But a mini relic blade is fine i guess

[round mica]

i hope they do the power falchion right and don’t make it like the thanmer where if you take damage the buff disappears

[bronze sequoia]

Pan banging tard gameplay

[olive badger]

This isn't the last free update, where'd you get that from?

[lilac crag]

yes. they are exploring options.

[onyx urchin]

will this update reset the talent trees?

[limber zealot]

We're talking about VT2 zealot not DT zealot

[olive badger]

yes for vet/zeal/psy

[royal badge]

Oh lmao

[urban orbit]

uh it was in the title LOL let me check sec

[olive badger]

Latest

[limber zealot]

Throwing knives are a little gimmicky but I love them

[olive badger]

Or I made a typo somewhere haha

[ocean widget]

bro either got clickbaited or blinded

[urban orbit]

Never been more happy about being blind

[uneven ermine]

Hey I’ll pay you 50 dollars to give me a proper Armageddon steel legion outfit for vet with his proper make and goggles

[lilac crag]

I'm so happy about vet getting better variety. I'm so so curious how they keystones got changed. I hope there's better viability in marksman and focus target.

[white vale]

I wish that there was an option to equip them like other blitzes and throw them with M1

[royal badge]

They're gimmicky, they don't work like standard nades and their whole thing is being this weird little single target throwable lol

WHAT CHANGED WITH ZEALOT!!!

[round mica]

if you could rate the reworks from 1 to 10 pogryns, what would you rate it?

[ocean widget]

bet they made crabwalking default and removed the node that let you do it without losing stacks

[bronze sequoia]

Hot shot las... can't even larp as a Scion. Fuck my stupid guardcel life

[limber zealot]

Yeah that'd be cool but it'd also defeat the purpose of having a quick ranged attack

[bitter matrix]

YOU DONT NEED THREE WOUND CURIOS FOR MARTYRDOM

[urban orbit]

I read "lastest free update" as last free update, OPS

[limber zealot]

Maybe have it so you have to hold down the button to fully pull it out

That could work

[royal badge]

HOW

[hazy stone]

"darktide will be shut down in 2013, reply 'saveFarttide' to save it"

[versed roost]

Wtf; power maul ‚rework’? Adding cooldown to explosion? Sounds like a nerf to me

[limber zealot]

Oh that's fucking massive what

I need to read the full post

[bitter matrix]

The max Martyr stacks was reduced but the buff to damage and other stuff was increased

[royal badge]

Gimmicky and fun are not exclusive

[manic rock]

Nice, also please consider a skin set of Athonian tunnel rats in the future. 🙏

[strong venture]

Is it health based instead of wound based finally?

[lilac crag]

update this 23rd, and another update in Q3. this isn't the last of the year

[bitter matrix]

Wound based, still

#veteran-class message

[limber zealot]

That's fine for me cause I already don't run 3 wound curios for my martyrdom build

[bitter matrix]

Vid that discusses new perks here

[limber zealot]

I only ran 2

[icy wedge]

was plasma nerfed?

[bitter matrix]

There's also new Martyr perks

[stable hatch]

lmao fatshark isn't even planning arbites cosmetics? i swear, they hate money and the person running their cash shop was lobotomized. oh well, update looks dope (can't wait to see the zealot tree)

[royal badge]

I like running a bunch of wounds anyways because I throw myself into danger constantly

[limber zealot]

I always run at least 1 extra wound curio just give myself some breathing room

[bitter matrix]

More toughness replenishment per stack and more corruption resist per stack

[royal badge]

Fatshark are greedy evil corpos or they're lazy and hate money, call it

[placid mulch]

Hey, where do i see new skill trees?

[limber zealot]

Unless I'm on ogryn of course

[bitter matrix]

#veteran-class message This vid

[bronze sequoia]

Greedy and lazy, like every corpo

[steel shoal]

You need to ask GW about that

[bronze sequoia]

You dont

[royal badge]

But how can they simultaneously hate money?

[lilac crag]

check around youtubers

they've been showing snippets

update drops tomorrow anyway

[bronze sequoia]

They dont, they're just lazy

[cursive gate]

Just saw the update trailer as a vet main I will disappear from the face of the earth as soon as I get my hands on ma pc

[placid mulch]

God Emperah bless ya!

[limber zealot]

They said something a little bit ago about how they've been kinda stunlocked and unable to do shit but that they're exploring options rn

[tacit geode]

the secret third option

it's games workshops fault

[limber zealot]

Fucking James Workshop

I hate that guy

[lilac crag]

they aren't allowed to disclose about that, so it's likely

[limber zealot]

Imagine a world where GW doesn't suck

[lilac crag]

we know they are Exploring Arby Outfits as of now

[royal badge]

This is impossible

[thorn wedge]

Man

A lot of people on the sub were piss babying about no content for the update

[limber zealot]

They were doing that here too

[thorn wedge]

And now they are sore and sad in the piss of shame and incorrectness

[lilac crag]

Doomposting comes natural

[royal badge]

Reworks for two classes is epic idk why people are super mad

[thorn wedge]

Publically

[lilac crag]

3

[thorn wedge]

For shame

[bitter matrix]

It's all Talent tree buffs but like they're so much more fun

[lilac crag]

psyker too

[limber zealot]

I saw some fair criticism but it was mostly just whining

[low hemlock]

That would be a world of every company not being more greedy than Mr. Krabs

[strong venture]

I honestly believe this

[royal badge]

Psyker too??

[lilac crag]

yes

[royal badge]

Even more epic

[limber zealot]

Unfortunately true

[bitter matrix]

MELEE PSYKER IS MORE VIABLE!!!!

[royal badge]

If they're good reworks anyways

[olive badger]

Psyker's is not as extensive 'cause it was already in a good spot power wise, but it did also get the layout changes

[bitter matrix]

PSYKER MAYBE WONT DIE INSTANTLY

[thorn wedge]

Can't be

[olive badger]

along improvements to certain nodes ofc

[steel shoal]

To be honest I am bit suprised that they can't use older artworks for new arby skins

[royal badge]

Is gunzealot more viable now?

[odd shadow]

It’s the same reaction like the Helldivers community but a bit different

[round mica]

i just want a melee focused vet build now with the new power falchion

[thorn wedge]

Melee psyker is already ridiculous

[limber zealot]

They don't die instantly if you stay in the backline

[strong venture]

Just wish psyker had a Bolt staff equivalent fromnVT2

[gloomy void]

Nerfs for Ogyrn and Arbites and elite HP improvements? Beautiful. The hard parts of the game will actually be a little hard again(hopefully)

[limber zealot]

(I don't stay in the backline)

[lilac crag]

new editions must be coming out soon.

[olive badger]

broooo it's my favorite staff, same

[bitter matrix]

#psyker-class message

Look

[royal badge]

Helldivers community is a morass

[olive badger]

Unchained w/ flail & bolt staff is my go to

[bitter matrix]

More toughness, Stamina and almost no passive quell

[remote jackal]

They actually listened to my (or tanner's) feedback? Amazing.

[grand cave]

No way we got a content update

Lets goooo

[limber zealot]

What did that one do again?

[strong venture]

Pyro knife & bolt is still my jam

[limber zealot]

I barely played sienna

[royal badge]

How hard would it be for Brunt to obtain a combi gun

[lilac crag]

the community as a whole has been asking for a change like this. especially during rotten armor. this is not one person's doing.

[strong venture]

Machine gun primary, sniper aimed

[grand cave]

Brunt?

[limber zealot]

That's what I thought

Yeah that one was cool

[limber zealot]

Ogryn in charge of the armoury

[royal badge]

Quartermaster Brunt is the Catachan Ogryn in charge of obtaining all our sweet weapons

[odd shadow]

Unbelievably kinda just more unbearable you cannot do anything to make them happy AH releases new content

Community; ummmmm why is this game dead

Bro just give them time to fix the fucking game instead demanding more content

[limber zealot]

You see him in like one cutscene when you unlock the armoury and that's it

[olive badger]

We listen to all feedback frfr. We regularly snoop the forums, the reddit, the discord, the steam forums, etc. And we pass that along and we see what we can do. But there's a lot to go through, and a lot of things to consider and balance against.

[limber zealot]

You also hear him talk a little in mortis trials I think

[fierce cave]

Blue vs red

[low hemlock]

yeah Brunt been went mussing ever since him & Morrow went out attacking em Xenos Genestealers

[grand cave]

Aaah alright. Combi gun ey? Is there even a standard issue for smaller infantry?

[fierce cave]

Halo was so peaj

[quick pendant]

you can skip reddit and the steam forum imo just focus on discord and the fatshark forum

[stable hatch]

i mean it doesn't help the game is a barely playable buggy mess and AH keeps shipping awful, broken enemies and promising performance improvements that never come lmao.

[royal badge]

They're literally crying for the devs to buff all other assault rifles because the new one is overtuned

[remote jackal]

Of course. I don't think we'll be getting a buff to Scabs armour or Dregs speed XD.

[lilac crag]

Quickpaw, do you know any changes to the Infantry Lasgun?

[olive badger]

lemme check

[royal badge]

Besides Sororitas I have no idea

[olive badger]

mf making me open the patch notes

[limber zealot]

Honestly the 2 weapons I want from VT the most are the elf's longbow and the glaive

[odd shadow]

Tanner saved all of Darktide

[limber zealot]

I fucking love the glaive

[stable hatch]

POST PATCH NOTES EARLY : D

[lilac crag]

I apologize but only slightly.

[limber zealot]

Also dual wielding would be fucking swag

[torn apex]

I really hope the scab plasma gunners aren't as annoying as the scab gunners, honestly

[olive badger]

bahaha it's alright

[strong venture]

Glaive was a vibe, agreed

[remote jackal]

Truth that often ignites a spark of rage within many....

[odd shadow]

Lmafo I agree I’m talking about the community of Helldivers in general but yes they need to fix the fucking game

[gloomy void]

Thought that guy quit. Nit throwing shade I thought he actually did

[lilac crag]

I'm enamored with the rifle, I hope the recoil/sight has been adjusted better. if not, general changes would work too. but the recent sight changes to the lasbore will substitute.

[tacit geode]

That's good to know the silence was a bit scary

If I may ask why such a long delay on releasing the blog? If you can answer

[olive badger]

Not for this patch. Hellbore's getting a new sight, though.

But I do know that there's more balance changes being cooked, this is just what made it to this update.

[odd shadow]

The new AR just proves how poorly designed the enemies are and how underwhelming the old weapons are everything needs a re work including performance of the game

[strong venture]

YES!!

[dreamy cliff]

Dogtide

[lilac crag]

Great! thank you.

[remote jackal]

He did, but not before saving the ogryn. His recommendation for increasing the Crushers HP was said long, long time ago.

[gloomy void]

Old weapons aren’t that underwhelming. The coyote is just overtuned

[strong venture]

If hellbore gets literally anything that isn't those terrible irons, i kneel

[royal badge]

Nah most of the ARs were already in a good spot besides libconc and pacifier. Coyote does too many things with no downsides to speak of

[molten matrix]

Maybe i can subtly influence quickpaw to make fatshark work on the power axe

[thorn wedge]

gonna be a talent tree reset huh?

[gloomy void]

I think a lot of people suggested that. It just sort fits as a buff idea to an enemy that supposed to be tanky

[olive badger]

We were working on two dev blogs that we wanted to post before the update but they got tied up, sadly. Can't say more but we might still post them after the update just to give further insight into the decisions and design

[thorn wedge]

and i cant screenshot my trees

[quick pendant]

pls take a look at the stamina bases of older weapons

[thorn wedge]

since im in a hospital 2 hours away from home

[tacit geode]

Thanks for the answer either way

[remote jackal]

I any case, I hope that Crushers not only did get a buff to HP but to stagger resistance also.

[thorn wedge]

give it too me straight how many characters am I losing loadouts on?

[molten matrix]

3

[tacit geode]

they gotta nerf it the fall out will be biblical!

[thorn wedge]

FUCK

[lilac crag]

many, many people ( Including Hank and the writers of Ogrynomicon ) were talking about ogryn changes long before tanner. unfortunately, whoever speaks the loudest with an influence ( Tanner ) will get the credit.

[dusty bramble]

Veteran, Psyker, Zealot

[thorn wedge]

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK

FFFFFFFUCK

[odd shadow]

I still used some light pen on the bot missions and did fine in talking about in general when it comes fight certain enemies they added which made people switch back to a “meta” which most of the community doesn’t want but ironically they have go to weapons that they always pick

[gloomy void]

Yeah he is quite loud lol

[remote jackal]

Get ready to rebuilt your glory from the rubble.

[molten matrix]

Btw every single vet psyker and zealot loadout is now gone in terms of skilltrees

[odd shadow]

The pacifier needs a fucking buff frs

[thorn wedge]

but the themes

[lilac crag]

a chance to revise all your loadouts doesn't sound bad

[thorn wedge]

I need the old ones to rebuild the themes

[odd shadow]

Tanner saved the ogryn

[thorn wedge]

I have a bunch of specialty theme builds

[bitter matrix]

Just make new builds

Ez

[gloomy void]

The issue there is less underwhelming guns and more the meta ones like crossbow and eruptor are overturned to hell. New enemies like the dragon roach though definitely need some changes

[lilac crag]

[gloomy void]

Makes everything else look terrible when the meta is miles ahead

[lilac crag]

alright

[strong venture]

Pacifier heavy or AT piercing, i am not joking

[gloomy void]

Never cook again

[remote jackal]

Praise the Tannersiah!

He who saved the Ogryn.

[odd shadow]

In general just rework the enemies to make the ARs or most of them usable

[gloomy void]

They are?

[lilac crag]

I wonder if Duellist on Zealot got moved in a better position.

it is quite essential to Zealot's tree.

[tacit geode]

top right of the tree

[gloomy void]

Like all of them. The concussive and pacifier could use buffs but everything else is fine

[tacit geode]

#theorycrafting message

[lilac crag]

this is all I needed to know

thanks BJH

[strong venture]

Wonder if Loner is finally getting removed or super reworked

[tacit geode]

gone

dead

[last valve]

Removed and now -15% stamina cost

[tacit geode]

buried

[strong venture]

Good

[thorn wedge]

I needed loner dammit

[dusty bramble]

is that even worth taking?

[odd shadow]

Bro Make the dominator heavy pen so we can get the HD2 version of a bolter

[stable hatch]

give interactive updated zealot tree pls, i am dumb and need to see

[thorn wedge]

I had a facetank blender zealot that would lose coherency by swimming deep upstream in heretics

[odd shadow]

The enemies are poorly designed the new rupture strain proved kinda how useless majority of weapons are

[astral jungle]

New power falchion looks great

[dusty bramble]

they’re gonna buff ARs so

enemies are fine

[languid hazel]

I’m so excited to have to once again redo all of my karking talent trees WHOOOOOOOO

[odd shadow]

Re work certain enemies

[astral jungle]

Whats in the talent rework

[gloomy void]

Rupture strain was fine besides the host bug

[strong venture]

-15% on all stamina costs or just sprint?

[fading otter]

Confirmed? If they make Tenderizer even better I’ll rejoice

[royal badge]

This is why players shouldn't be listened to for ideas

[dusty bramble]

yes confirmed

[gloomy void]

Pain

[dusty bramble]

it was the QA lead who mentioned it, he said Coyote was fine and the rest of the ARs need better tuning

[astral jungle]

So AR's are gonna get 400 ammo mag drums? niiice

[royal badge]

God forbid the game have challenge. Darktide is at least actually hard on its highest difficulties

[strong venture]

Stalwart for primary slot

[gloomy void]

Bro just give my basic ass AR heavy pen to kill elites with. Trust me it’s balanced

[dusty bramble]

pretty much lol

[astral jungle]

@royal badge Make it harder for yourself, roll with 60% dmg weapons

[dusty bramble]

i’m fine with buffing ars cause a lot of them are kinda shite

[astral jungle]

[royal badge]

This is in reference to helldivers

[fading otter]

That was almost a thing, it was on the primary weapon wall until like a few updates ago. Got replaced with a breaker

[dusty bramble]

but please don’t nerf rupture strain, they were an amazing challenge and i loved them

[royal badge]

2 of them. The rest are good

[dusty bramble]

fix the host instahit bug and they’re perfect

[astral jungle]

Is power falchion, vet only?

[dusty bramble]

which 2 i’m curious what you think

[royal badge]

They're gone for a month they're going to be ruined

[gloomy void]

Darktide also actually does nerfs when needed. Helldivers hasn’t done one since the Ultimatum in February and that community is still somehow panicking about nerfs

[royal badge]

Conc and pacifier

[odd shadow]

I figure that most of the Helldivers community play on lower tier difficulties and the devs cater towards the majority

[fair bridge]

yes

[astral jungle]

Darn

[royal badge]

you'd think they wouldn't constantly be asking for buffs in that case since even middle difficulties are a cakewalk

[hidden trout]

so what do yall think

[dusty bramble]

unfortunately Adjudicator, and all 3 libs are also kinda ass when compared to coyote

[hidden trout]

are we back

or is it over

[dusty bramble]

coyote is just flat out better then all of them

[astral jungle]

I wanted power falchion on my arbites

[royal badge]

Coyote is overtuned

[gloomy void]

A lot play on diff 10 because it’s pretty easy now

[fading otter]

Halo AR too lol

[royal badge]

That's literally the issue

[dusty bramble]

coyote is fine

[royal badge]

No it isn't lol

It has ap3 and incendiary rounds and trades nothing for it

[dusty bramble]

Balance lead disagrees with you sadly

[strong venture]

I loved getting hit MID JETPACK FLIGHT

[quick plover]

Yay mortis trials.. ha ha

[royal badge]

Jojo? He's incompetent

[odd shadow]

I guess the problem is now people are asking for a challenge and when given they complain

[quick plover]

[tacit geode]

I'm thinkin we may be back

[gloomy void]

Medium pen, high damage, high mag size, plenty of mags, easy to control recoil, dot damage. Literally has no downsides

[fair bridge]

i can't believe i paid $40 for this game two years ago and they still haven't added these very specific things that i, a gentleman gamer, demand on a daily basis on forums.fatsharkgames.com. unbelievable fatshark!!!!! unacceptable!!!!

[royal badge]

Exactly. You can't reasonably buff other ARs to this standard

[tacit geode]

But I was watching your video but what are your general thoughts on the power falchion

[dusty bramble]

i’d give the coyote 2 less extra mags and 10 less damage personally

[fair bridge]

zealot looks so fun now

not that she wasn't before

but even more fun

[royal badge]

Less damage or less ammo would fix it yeah

[whole glade]

The update looks dope

[vagrant saffron]

It is

[rare pulsar]

Pfffffff

[vagrant saffron]

I cant wait for december snd max cope

[gloomy void]

I’d say keep the damage high but up the recoil some and nerf mag amounts. So it shreds but needs better ammo management and aim

[vagrant saffron]

[dusty bramble]

also more enemies like dragon

[fair bridge]

big darktide update news and we still got homies talking HD2 in general

[dusty bramble]

live em

[remote jackal]

Does that mean you will change your name now?

[whole glade]

can’t wait to see the tree reworks

[ashen prairie]

Turns out it isn't flu, it's COVID

[royal badge]

I'm sorry king 😔

[orchid skiff]

thank god

i don't come here to talk about fucking darktide

[remote jackal]

Watch Mr E's twitch he already went over those.

[dusty bramble]

my bad i really like both games and will take whatever chance i can to talk about them

main HD2 server is genuinely fucking rancid echo chamber so

[ocean widget]

Yeah, still waiting on the left tree vet weapon

[royal badge]

Where's Sigmartide

[whole glade]

I don’t want spoilers

[hidden trout]

https://youtu.be/4yhtu0ur_mA?si=Op_V0Q91ziWRFOdn

[whole glade]

i wanna be cool

and read

[fair bridge]

do you wanna make a forum account and harass neckbeard losers who are complaining that the update doesn't give them back custody of their children therefore it's trash

[ocean widget]

Dont watch Mr e in general, problem solved

[dusty bramble]

aughh i can’t insta kill war strider with muh AR it’s a bad enemy design

[whole glade]

Who even is mr E

[astral jungle]

HD2 is easy to cheese with the right builds

[little marten]

People complaint about this update? Why lol

It’s more than I expected

Considerably more

[gloomy void]

It’s just easy in general

[ocean widget]

YouTuber, moron, tanners mate

[orchid skiff]

i want to doompost about how life is meaningless but still finite and the clock is fucking ticking

[dusty bramble]

because it doesn’t jerk them off and add a million new weapons

[fair bridge]

because forum users are subhumans

[orchid skiff]

we're all fucking dying

[whole glade]

i watch Mr.Unc for darktide stuff

[whole glade]

Tanner?

[orchid skiff]

it's all over

[fair bridge]

not me, im goated

[remote jackal]

I will not tolerate peak slopper slander here.

[amber delta]

once update goes live yes

[orchid skiff]

you have 30 years to live

[quick plover]

So this plasma gunner wont be seen in regular gameplay

[ocean widget]

Just search up tanner darktide reddit

[fair bridge]

do u think im 50????

[quick plover]

gg..

[sweet epoch]

Yeah well you see, sometimes you die in a mission and therefore it's hard

[whole glade]

JUST TELL ME JEEZ

[orchid skiff]

you will not survive the water wars

[ocean widget]

I cant go over everything tanners done

[remote jackal]

Search up Tanner Lindberg channel on YouTube

[fair bridge]

i've been recycling my waste for years

[fading otter]

Not because of that but it genuinely is terrible enemy design lmao
Hulk eye=Weak spot
Factory Strider eye= weak spot
Devastator head=weak spot
Berserker head= weak spot
War strider eye= as strong as the rest of the body???? Like at least be consistent with the rest of the enemies in the same faction

[odd shadow]

Doth thee dare insult the greatest gift to Darktide he saved the ogryn

[remote jackal]

He was speaking fax and people got mad

[gloomy void]

My Arbites teammates that rage quit the moment they go down in Auric summed up

[dusty bramble]

yeah, adapt to it biiiitch

[stuck wasp]

lol, as if

[whole glade]

LIKE WHAT

[royal badge]

This I can agree with. Just make it beefier than the hulk eye. Give it a back medium armor heatsink too to match other large bot enemies

[whole glade]

HOLY SHITE

[orchid skiff]

this is the guy that was talking about hd2 discord being a necho chamber

[lilac crag]

been a while since I've seen Tanner fanboys

[gloomy void]

Tanner saved the darktide community when he left it

[fading otter]

I have, it’s still dumb af just like killing the roach wings doing nothing

[odd shadow]

SILENCE HERETIC HE HAS SAVED OGRYN HE SAVED THE COMMUNITY PRAISE BE

[fair bridge]

a neko chamber??

[lilac crag]

you're getting ragebaited

[orchid skiff]

elon musk needs to get in on this

[bronze sequoia]

What kind of echo chamber?

[whole glade]

Imma eat your car

[fair bridge]

Grok I Need Ket

[dusty bramble]

roach wings i agree are dumb, but me personally, i hate how easy it is to fuck over the bots, i’d agree to a heat sink on the war strider back and a reduced spawn rate though

i don’t want a front weak spot

[orchid skiff]

the slurp slurp chamber

[whole glade]

And wash it down with motor oil

[lilac crag]

don't shoot the messenger

[bronze sequoia]

Fruity ass

[dusty bramble]

they should be a hard to take down threat that forced you out of cover

[whole glade]

I’m not gonna shoot you, just eat your car

[rare pulsar]

Bots are hardest lol basic bugs are easy af

All you do is run away literally

[royal badge]

Would be neat if instead of killing it outright it disabled its eyesight or something. I reckon it's being piloted by multiple regular troopers inside like the smaller scout strider cuz there's multiple viewports on its body

[lilac crag]

fhe heat sink on war strider is ap 4

or t

5*

it shouldn't be that tbh

[astral jungle]

Reaper strain says, hello

[dusty bramble]

The belly?

it’s 4 iirc

[lilac crag]

no, at the back of It's belly

[gloomy void]

You were an armory member right? In helldivers official?

[rare pulsar]

Thats a special strain tho

[lilac crag]

it's butt has a heat sink

[royal badge]

Yeah

[dusty bramble]

oh the back, yeah that’s 4

[rare pulsar]

Inconeration coprs says hello

[dusty bramble]

the belly is 3

[bronze sequoia]

Bite pillow, ogryn going in dry

[lilac crag]

yeh

[gloomy void]

Thought i remembered you lol

[royal badge]

I got banned for calling ohdough an idiot cuz of repeat smaller offenses like that

[lilac crag]

butt should be 3 also

[dusty bramble]

ohdough is an idiot

[gloomy void]

I left after the spreadsheet incident

[orchid skiff]

[obtuse oak]

Does anyone remember 4 EATs from the armory?

[lilac crag]

helldiver community can't get anything right

[dusty bramble]

nah, factory strider is fine as is

[lilac crag]

war strider!!!!

war!!@@

WAR STRIDER!!!!!

[whole glade]

Should i get my bf to get me food

[dusty bramble]

OKAAAAY

[strong venture]

Erm acktually, the weakest points of the factory strider you should govus are the legs

[lilac crag]

[vestal mantle]

Guys, I made spicy noodles

[lilac crag]

WFOOOOOONNGGGG ENEEMEYEYYYYYY

[dusty bramble]

FUCK

[gloomy void]

Yes. Kobold as their non server pfp i think

They were cool

[tame hemlock]

they buffed the leg HP so you can't one-shot them there anymore

[obtuse oak]

Yee that's a friend of mine

[fading otter]

I know the eye is only really a weak point for the RR I’m just making a point about enemy consistency

[gloomy void]

I think i played a match or two with them

[tame hemlock]

ever since fleshmobs the enemy designs have been terrible

[lilac crag]

helldiver community can't get anything they want because everyone is always at eachothers throats

[dusty bramble]

shoot the war strider in the dick

[strong venture]

Literally unplayable smh my head

[tame hemlock]

I swear the 1 guy that designed fleshmobs is designing every new enemy

[dusty bramble]

the humble hive lord

[fair bridge]

i gotta play no man's sky in VR

i made a sick corvette

[somber stream]

Covenant?

[fair bridge]

sure

[vestal mantle]

I like the flesh mobs personally

[tame hemlock]

"what if we just... not give them weakpoints???"

INCREDIBLE

[vestal mantle]

They do have weakpoints tho

[dusty bramble]

yeah, use explosive or high fire rate weapons, they die super fast

[lilac crag]

it's been fun being here folk. but I'm gonna resign a little for the night. doomposting loses, and vet lovers stay winning. Q3 update too.

I am happy.

[strong venture]

Probably the guy who worked on hello neighbor. Got demoted from gun balance to enemy design

[vestal mantle]

Fleshmobs have glowing faces that when they get shot and explode does hp damage

[lilac crag]

-# that guys gone from enemy design too

[gloomy void]

He doesn’t actually do that much. The idea he balances everything was a community myth

[minor narwhal]

how is this update lighter its MASSIVE lmao

[royal badge]

That whole server is a trashheap and fhe game's trajectory is not looking good to me. Devs don't know how to handle their community

[strong venture]

I literally cant be funny against arrowhead anymore. God damn it

[dusty bramble]

They just have 6k health, but they’re AV0, the gimmick is just fucking shoot them???

[royal badge]

Yeah idk why people are complaining

[dusty bramble]

community is pretty bad too

literally never happy and always complaining

[vagrant saffron]

I pray to Emprah for Hotshot Lasguns
🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏

[gloomy void]

Oh yeah if rupture strain ends up nerfed I’ll probably uninstall. Community has made even the good moments awful

[remote jackal]

And yet they are called "the most friendly and positive communities out there".

[strong venture]

Or a longlas plz 🙏

[royal badge]

Yes the community is the problem mainly, they got overrun with casuals who don't normally play these kinds of games and they want a fundamentally different experience than the dev's vision

[remote jackal]

They come back from work and just want to turn their brain off and be overpowered, it's that simple.

[dusty bramble]

the community is somehow apathetic despite AH doing everything they can do appease them, it’s really sad and I pray they can get everything together

[fading otter]

It is if you stay out of the subReddit and discord

[tame hemlock]

there is little to be happy about when the game is crashing people's computers and therefore largely inaccessible, ballooning in file size every update and the new content is broken

I don't think you understand how bad it is

[dusty bramble]

I literally do

[royal badge]

Right. I don't get why they can't just do that on lower difficulties

[little marten]

YOOOO CRYSTALLINE WILL BUILDS LETS GOOO

[gloomy void]

They have diff 5 for that

[dusty bramble]

Ive played since launch and have had issues but the community complains even despite issues

[tame hemlock]

the community dissatisfaction is entirely Arrowhead's doing for being neglectful of the game's performance

[vagrant saffron]

yeah

[minor narwhal]

wyhy are you guys talking about helldivers

[dusty bramble]

it’s not neglect, trust me

[strong venture]

Cuz they can

[remote jackal]

Because no one wants to feel like they are bad players. It hurts their ego. It's present in this community too.

[gloomy void]

Not really given most of their complaints aren’t performance related

[royal badge]

Devs and the community are both makor issues

[vestal mantle]

I think arrowhead intends on patches tho

[gaunt bridge]

All this hype for the new Martis Trail map… like who even plays this? We need actual PvP, thanks Fatshark

[gloomy void]

No

[dusty bramble]

so true, pvp when

[vestal mantle]

They talked about having the engine vreators onboard

[low hemlock]

And don’t forget Sony’s greed to force every HD2 players to have a PSN account & Playstation or else

[remote jackal]

PvP? Bait used to be believable...

[low hemlock]

[wintry hemlock]

Damn fatshark butchered my boy zealot 😭😭

[strong venture]

Vermintide got its PVP, go

[minor narwhal]

new complaint dropped???

[vagrant saffron]

No PVP, just PVE

[royal badge]

I think this is why games tend to change enemy health and damage rather than number and types of enemies since the low difficulty experience is much less... grand... I guess? Smaller missions, simpler enemies, less enemies in general

[final herald]

pensive emoji waiting for volleygun or heavy stubber for vet

[ocean widget]

"martis trail"

warhammer version of the oregon trail

[vagrant saffron]

or the melta

[sharp lake]

where talent trees on gameslantern

[vagrant saffron]

Melta icons were datamined years ago

[final herald]

or the melta 😔

[royal badge]

This is par for the course with every Triple A company though. You almost always have to have some related account for EA, Ubisoft, Microsoft, etc.

[remote jackal]

I wonder... What is so appealing about this character from Made in Abyss that you made them your profile pic? 🤔

[vagrant saffron]

if no hotshot, then fine we get the melta

[minor narwhal]

i dont even know what i want anymore after this update

[minor narwhal]

hampter creature

[remote jackal]

New maps, new enemies

[wintry hemlock]

How did they nerf zealot and left arbitrator basicaly untouched.....

[royal badge]

Turn it down bud it's not that serious

[vestal mantle]

Pancakes

[dusty bramble]

maps and hadron memories, more story

[half elk]

bro asking the real questions

[minor narwhal]

i mean sure but i always wanted more of an unchained now we'll get that lmao

[final herald]

I don't trust nanachi PFPs either but this feels like one of those "self incriminating" type beats

[dusty bramble]

i need them to expand on the whole fourth tech priest thing

[low hemlock]

The fact Sony didn’t do it on LAUNCH Day shows again,

Company Greed

[dusty bramble]

why is he on tertium

[low hemlock]

[astral jungle]

Why no ogryn 2h hammer this update

:c

[low hemlock]

[remote jackal]

Right, you have your opinion I have mine. I see things like this and I have questions.

[royal badge]

They said at launch that a PSN account would be required, they just didn't enforce it immediately

[lime beacon]

Hank didn’t lie

[final herald]

yeah no you just keep diggin the hole deeper

[royal badge]

Where's mah fuckin brute shield

[lime beacon]

Incoming allahu akbar psyker build tomorrow?

[dusty bramble]

AH fought tooth and nail to get that removed and even lift the restrictions

[astral jungle]

Brute shield? I need context

[minor narwhal]

thats gonna be so funny

[royal badge]

Yeah

[final herald]

hammer is the dude who showed people boku no pico to "explain how bad it was"

[dusty bramble]

huge respect to them for that

[astral jungle]

Preferrably of the pictorial kind @royal badge

[low hemlock]

well hope it was worth it since, it had HD2 banned from alot of countries giving out a ton of refunds for a long while

[royal badge]

It's the other shield ogryns use on the tabletop, it's like a giant lunch tray shaped power buckler

[lime beacon]

Weaponized peril griefing

[strong venture]

I thought i forgot about that. N here you come

[half elk]

anyone know if they changed crystalline will?

[fast cosmos]

zealot cosmetic tomorrow looks like a gimp suit

[dusty bramble]

they’re a deeply passionate and thoughtful dev team, and i genuinely hope they continue to do well and can fix the issues at hand

[fast cosmos]

hilarious

[minor narwhal]

yeah

[astral jungle]

I see

Does it come with a power wapon too

[fast cosmos]

no new ogryn melee weapon sad.

[lime beacon]

If you explode and kill an elite with it, you stay up and don’t even take the corruption damage

[minor narwhal]

it was smth like bigger explosion more dmg and you dotn get corruption if it kills an elite

[low hemlock]

one day Pal….one day…..

[half elk]

thats awesome

[fast cosmos]

give us the damn hammer. it's in the files.

wonder if arbites will finally get some cosmetics tomorrow tooo

[minor narwhal]

#1 fatshark hater putting in overtime work

[lime beacon]

Arbites no longer exists

[minor narwhal]

🙏

[lime beacon]

Psyker jihad begins now

[fast cosmos]

no arbites in new cinematic

fake class

[dusty bramble]

what hammer?

i haven’t seen this before

[minor narwhal]

lmao

[lime beacon]

There’s a datamined carnival squeak hammer

[fast cosmos]

there's a 2 handed hammer floating around in the game files

[royal badge]

The game wasn't meant to be sold in those countries and PSN was how they were enforcing that originally, not to mention the report systems which are still nonfunctional. People in those countries had workarounds for getting PSN accounts regardless so it wouldn't have mattered if they'd not gotten rid of PSN

[lime beacon]

It’s red and yellow and does 5 damage

[dusty bramble]

oh so baseless rumor

nvm

[minor narwhal]

theres supposed to be 40k of them

[orchid skiff]

the p2w does not hang out with the poors

[lime beacon]

I’m just kidding idk, there probably is one

[dusty bramble]

continue shit posting

[fast cosmos]

TRUUUEEEEE

[remote jackal]

Nah, those are Warhammers.

[royal badge]

Tbf there's an ogryn enemy that uses one

[lime beacon]

Does anyone not have the arbites dlc yet

[low hemlock]

40k? say that again…

[fast cosmos]

us arbites players are better.

[low hemlock]

[tame hemlock]

nerfing remote detonation is very uncalled for

[minor narwhal]

sorry arbites other classes also locked in

[low hemlock]

like Warhammer 40k‼️‼️‼️‼️

i get the reference

[obtuse oak]

Imagine being a hater and giving them 12 dollars of your money

[orchid skiff]

YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO 🗣️

[fast cosmos]

like i said new zealot cosmetic is a gimp suit so that's pretty funny

[obtuse oak]

Sounds like Fatshark won

[strong venture]

Nah, thay shit was kinda busted

[minor narwhal]

wasnt this update meant to be small? lmao

[fast cosmos]

ill give fatshark my whole wallet

[tame hemlock]

how

[fast cosmos]

i love this game

LMAO

[dusty bramble]

Not me, im a lover and gave them 18$

[lime beacon]

Stockholm syndrome

[minor narwhal]

this is like the 3rd or 4th biggest update how is it small

[fast cosmos]

i gave them $18 for the deluxe baby

[obtuse oak]

[fast cosmos]

love and hate is a duality thing. i love and hate fatshark.

[obtuse oak]

That I can understand

[low hemlock]

well the “premium” cosmetic shop is right around the corner Pal

[strong venture]

Monster stagger, horde clears, dots, stun for survivors IIRC.

And it was FREE

[dusty bramble]

small in terms of raw content i guess? it’s a lot of QOL and not as big as say Traitors Curse

[minor narwhal]

3 class reworks is crazy no1 expected that lmao

[tame hemlock]

free? I paid 18 dollars for it

[strong venture]

Tough.

[fast cosmos]

they'll get more money when they drop some arbites cosmetics.

[obtuse oak]

Yeah it's a dense patch but not a big content update. That's how I see it

[fast cosmos]

it's been months since release

kind of crazy

[dusty bramble]

i really do wonder why arbites hasn’t gotten cosmetics

it’s GW isn’t it

[low hemlock]

if only

[tame hemlock]

fatshark doesn't like money

[gloomy arch]

Any screenshots of new skill trees yet?

[strong venture]

Most likely

[obtuse oak]

Quickpaw said that they "can't" do Arbites cosmetics when asked about it just now

Whatever that means

[fair bridge]

this is way more likely than just "fatshark is lazy"

[fast cosmos]

wtf

[minor narwhal]

so its gw lol

[fair bridge]

yeah lol

[fast cosmos]

fucking gw

[dusty bramble]

but why? GW has models for arbites that would work as cosmetics

[fast cosmos]

actual bastards

[sharp lake]

GW, too busy making even more space marine models

[dusty bramble]

there’s even some that fit cosmetic sets we’ve already gotten like Enforcer

[obtuse oak]

The entire kill team mini range was already used

That's the current, canon aesthetic

[fair bridge]

school time, goodbye boyfriends

[obtuse oak]

I suspect that if GW is being difficult that it's because of that

[low hemlock]

cause IP reasons just like the IP owners of Friday the 13th

[fast cosmos]

bye lover

[lime beacon]

School is for sheep

[dusty bramble]

that’s so silly, another billion to the primaris

[steel gorge]

yeah from what I saw of the teasher trailer fatshark released. and what I just saw from one of the fellow creators I watch, I'm mildly annoyed. they teased and teased and teased for fuckin ever. a whole new faction. an entirely different hive city on the same world. which meant new enemies entirely in a new environment. what do we get? existing maps messed about with and made mortis maps, and new weapons marks. okay and the power falchion which looks cool but...Where the hell are the tyranids and all new maps in an entirely new city?

[minor narwhal]

sorry ogryn ated tyranids

[dusty bramble]

that’s a good copy paste

[low hemlock]

“u know to much Reject!” -

[steel gorge]

I'm also not gonna knock class perk reworks unless they screwed things up to a fare thee well like they did with the one ogryn patch.

[astral jungle]

Tyranids aint coming because well, there's a certain tomb beneath the second hive city

[steel gorge]

I am even more annoyed that I can't PLAY IT

[uneven ermine]

They can’t figure out how to find the perfect ratio of reskin cosmetic and abysmal coloring

[strong venture]

GW's a buncha control freaks, thats the why

[sweet trail]

? Whays hothic Englishmen

[fast cosmos]

Honestly I don't expect us to get anything crazy big narratively, like a new hive or 100% new faction. Fatshark is probably throttled a bit by GW, and even without GW strangling them, they update at a GLACIAL pace anyways.

[low hemlock]

no wonder Morrow and Zola don’t want us to know about it

[dusty bramble]

The big narrative update is next

[low hemlock]

[dusty bramble]

coming this year too

[fast cosmos]

[lime beacon]

Soon these nuts

[fast cosmos]

Believe it when I see it, man.

[strong venture]

Not even genestealer cults?
Aww man....

[green shoal]

I'm not hardcore enough to care much about build trees. And I don't really play Mortis, and I don't use Vet... so for me, the update is basically all about the new gunner enemy

[lime beacon]

See you all for a single non functional patch on December 31st to end the year

[astral jungle]

No man, straight up gauss shootin' metal skele boiis

[low hemlock]

we can fights heretics…..but Necrons

yeah we cooked gang

[dusty bramble]

pessimism

[fast cosmos]

If we're lucky!!!!!!

[dusty bramble]

sad way to go about things

[strong venture]

Id win against some flayed ones

[sharp lake]

if necrons show up i vote we let them have the planet

[fast cosmos]

I love this game, and I want it to do well. But I'm realistic with my expectations lol.

[tame hemlock]

are they just gonna wipe gameslantern now?

[steel gorge]

I honestly don't expect anything too much in the way of actual tyranids but is the damn genestealer cult too much to ask? it's still a new damn faction. add in one or 3 of the actual tyranid types as monstrosities

[tame hemlock]

throw every build in the trash

[fast cosmos]

They hit the ground at a steady pace with Arbites, and then all momentum died right after again. It is what it is.

[lilac crag]

I'm not great at explaining

[dusty bramble]

jeanstealers are genuinely a when and not an if imo

[strong venture]

I just want them to fix the constant DCing issues

[steel gorge]

so am I for the most part Cee. but...I've been playing since day one. defended them to anyone and everyone despite all the issues and I'm just...frustrated

[gloomy void]

Idk why people expected much more. The game seems to be consistent with an update every few months

[fast cosmos]

Mmhm

[dusty bramble]

when we’re arbites launched?

3 months ago?

[fast cosmos]

Over three months ago now I believe.

[gloomy void]

July i think. June or July

[steel gorge]

I'm gonna laugh my ass if they insert the genestealer version of low level scab mobs in, with blue jeans on 😛 just to be even more heretical

[dusty bramble]

That’s genuinely not that long lol

[strong venture]

I WANT to play the game, but i LITERALLY cannot tet in a whole match without an error 2014 or 2003

[dusty bramble]

that’s literally what fatsharks pace has been since traitors curse lmao

[fast cosmos]

That's literally an entire business quarter?

😂

What kind of cope

[dusty bramble]

4 updates, one every 3 months

brother that’s literally how it’s been

[gloomy void]

The game has 4 major updates a year. That’s honestly fine

[steel gorge]

I have that issue now but that's just because my current internet since I moved is absolute shit. once I move agaain that problem should be fixed.

[lime beacon]

I want the option to join the genestealers

[dusty bramble]

Just say you’re impatient

[fast cosmos]

I am impatient.

[lime beacon]

And get a hot three armed mutant wife

[dusty bramble]

at least you can admit it, i respect that

[gloomy void]

We could be like deep rock and not see an update for a year

[fast cosmos]

true

[quick plover]

I just hope this new plasma gunner makes it way into normal missions at some point, maybe just for high difficulty if it would be too op

[dusty bramble]

that’s your own fault for being impatient then, they update at a fine rate, it could be DRG yeah

[fast cosmos]

Maybe I am too hard on FS, I don't know.

[dusty bramble]

They are

The event is their introduction

and then they’ll be put into normal spawns

[quick plover]

Yipee

[fast cosmos]

It's just frustrating to see a game with such potential be, to me, somewhat squandered.

That's all.

[low hemlock]

Look if Momma Hadron telling me to fight Necrons that could easily one tap me…..

well let’s Karkin do thuz‼️‼️‼️

[strong venture]

I just think the servers are ran by a hamster that keeps flying off the wheel, is malnourished and old

[dusty bramble]

FS is the slow and steady company

they’ve supported Vermintide for what, 7 years?

[lime beacon]

Slow and steady is for farmers wives

[dusty bramble]

Darktide is gonna be fine and recieve that same love

[tacit geode]

They're giving it an adrenaline shot tomorrow!

[lime beacon]

I want hot and insane and erratic

[strong venture]

And it has the same DC issues too now.
Fuckin love it

[steel gorge]

seriously before I moved I had a really strong fiber connection600 up and down. now? I run off the damn cell towers with non existent upload

[dusty bramble]

go be with COD or a fortnite then idk

[vagrant saffron]

except the vox operator

its been months since the mad man returned

[sweet trail]

Theoretically, that would make you a mutant, a heretic, and an alien! Loyalists crying and banging their fists against the ground

[dusty bramble]

i miss the vox operator… can they at least bring him into havoc?

or something?

he was really cool

[vagrant saffron]

dont know, pray in december

[dusty bramble]

shit talked the rejects and spawned specialists

[lime beacon]

I’m irrational not developmentally delayed

[steel gorge]

hmmm or two of them things get really interesting then

[dusty bramble]

lmfao

[sweet trail]

Also new update looks cool besides crusher but i know some people will be angry abt it, probably for some valid reasons and probably for some not valid reasons

[vagrant saffron]

Fatshark deleted him forever. he joins his sgt become Figurines for Macfarlane toys

[keen moon]

fellas I punked myself

[sweet trail]

I'm just glad we're getting a vet/zeal/psyk rework. Thats so cool

[lime beacon]

It is cool

[keen moon]

logged onto the servers thought the update was live

[dusty bramble]

it’s a very nice update

[keen moon]

[dusty bramble]

it’s ground work as well

[gloomy void]

I am glad Ogryn and arbites are getting nerfs. Shows they care somewhat about balance

[dusty bramble]

basically reworking the game in a sense

[lime beacon]

Lmao ogryn literally got buffed

[strong venture]

If they keep spanning crushers in groups of 10, yeah

[dusty bramble]

crusher spawns are reduced

[gloomy void]

It is also getting nerfs

[dusty bramble]

this was confirmed

[sweet trail]

O yay

[dusty bramble]

more health for less spawns

i think same for bulwarks

[lime beacon]

Yeah but it feels like a net positive

[cosmic burrow]

good were getting nerfed. i say that as a ogryn main

[dusty bramble]

Crusher has 6.5k health for damnation/auric
and like 10k+ in havoc

[gloomy void]

If the positives are mostly for weaker stuff then i consider it better overall

[dusty bramble]

old health was 4k btw

[lime beacon]

40k you say?

[astral jungle]

Nah, too much overlap with SM2

[lime beacon]

And he has a

Warhammer?

[astral jungle]

GW will block it

[dusty bramble]

SM2 stinks

[strong venture]

If crushers become a proper equivalent to Chaos warriors, I'll live

[dusty bramble]

jean snatchers would be great

[lime beacon]

Mutant wife

[sweet trail]

Will the talent reworks be literally just making the trees more open and moving them around or will it like change the talents themselves a little

[lime beacon]

Happy life

[dusty bramble]

that’s what it looks like they’re doing, with bulwark being the chaos shield warrior lol

[sweet trail]

Disagree but it is not as good as darktide

[lucid yoke]

which class are the twitch drops for

[strong venture]

Both it seems?

[lucid yoke]

i cant find them on anyone

[gloomy void]

I like it but the gameplay clunkiness really shows on higher diffs

[lime beacon]

They are becoming less spread out and with fewer tax nodes

[sweet trail]

Thats it?

[lime beacon]

So you don’t have to cross a million miles to get perks from diff trees

Epic Cole made a video with all the changes

[gloomy void]

Both. Loner for example is getting removed and replaced with a new aura

[lucid yoke]

thats already a pretty significant improvement, depending on what they actually look like

[dusty bramble]

SM1 health system was perfect, and then they just got rid of it entirely and now you’re stuck with armor segments and god awful stun locks and it just sucks

i wanted to love SM2 so bad

[lime beacon]

Sm2 campaign was fun

But it has no repayability

[dusty bramble]

absolutely, dreadnaught slamming a helldrake was awesome

but no orks

[lime beacon]

And multiplayer poisoned me irl as soon as I saw the sweats

Overall it was hype but it’s a one and done for me

[wooden creek]

Heavy Update confirmed for Darktide

[dusty bramble]

How am i supposed to have a good krumping time with no fun gitz

[lucid yoke]

hell yeah ogryn rework 2

90% damage reduction in the tree

[dusty bramble]

this is why dawn of war winter assault is the best warhammer game

[lime beacon]

Also they went on about how hard they worked on the hordes, but you never really fight more enemies at once than you do in l4d, and even less than games like wwz

Just in my subjective opinion, might be wrong

[floral ermine]

the replayability is the co op stuff

[sweet trail]

I was just hoping they'd buff stealth and exec stance

[dusty bramble]

for chaos absolutely

tyranids the hordes feel pretty big

[tacit geode]

great news they idd that too

[lime beacon]

True

[obtuse oak]

@amber delta you won

[dusty bramble]

exec stance is buffed

built in toughness regen now

[lime beacon]

Man’s crusade is over

He has no purpose

What is next in life for him

[tacit geode]

I fear he may turn to dust

[tacit geode]

Oh did the penance get changed?

[floral ermine]

this was a let down yes
u see MASSIVE hordes in background but they're exactly that, background hordes
the game is too pretty to have big numbers and u can tell in harde siege mode where the spawns are actually crazy cause the game runs so bad

[dusty bramble]

Loner is flat out gone

it’s now -15% stamina cost

[lime beacon]

Bro is about to change name to “FS please nerf VoC”

[dusty pollen]

Thats not what hes asking

[tacit geode]

I know I meant are they also changing the penance

[dusty bramble]

oh penance is unknown

[sweet trail]

Sm1 was better than 2 definitely. From an art perspective although I think the art team of sm2 are extremely talented and creative I don't know how much the hyperrealism fits warhammer. I think the over the top cartoony style fits better.

Darktide doesn't count bc darktide is extremely grimdark and bleak, whereas sm2 is like sunshine and lollipops

[dusty bramble]

probably is changed

[alpine mica]

looks like the accounts page isnt working for the website

[sweet trail]

Ong yaaay

[floral ermine]

ill be the contrarian here and say sm2 system is fine
sm1 was too easy to cheese

in sm2 u have to manage armor and its fun

also every class has anti stunlock now

and if u just play good u wont get tossed around

non factor

[ocean widget]

What happened to the penance then?

[sweet trail]

Also the orks are more fun to fight than the niddies

[floral ermine]

if anything exceutes having iframes is so much easier to play with

[dusty bramble]

yeah well there’s still no orks

so what now

[lime beacon]

was anyone else really hoping for more penance reward milestones

[ocean widget]

No

[lime beacon]

seems ike a disingenuous answer

[ocean widget]

Means I'd have to play havoc

[dusty bramble]

Absolutely, i just hope they add a good amount cause i’m at 7000 penance score

[lime beacon]

bro really be all knowing, damn 7k

[ocean widget]

Gamemodes like havoc only work when your build is nuts like borderlands ngl

[dusty bramble]

i don’t have every penance just yet

almost there though

[ocean widget]

Plus we still need fatshark to make the twins mission actually playable

[amber delta]

I was playing the long game

[dusty bramble]

speaking of, borderlands 4 is really good

[floral ermine]

it is now

u can choose it

[dusty pollen]

missions from battle of tertium will be replayable

[ocean widget]

How

[floral ermine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LZkMIwpDYc

watch

[lime beacon]

tomorrow?

[dusty pollen]

yes

[ocean widget]

Oh nice, does quickplay apply to them?

[amber delta]

I will demand FS to add sex

[floral ermine]

this is a playtester, he showed new ways to pick campaign missions

[lime beacon]

say less, theres a crusade I can lay down my life in

[strong venture]

Since when?

[ocean widget]

Haven't touched it
Dont intend to til it goes on sale

[fast cosmos]

fs let me bang sefoni

[strong venture]

If ot runs, yes

Melee Rafa is so fun dude

[lime beacon]

I will be rotting in a grave before I buy anything related to randy pitchford

[dusty bramble]

i have an ordnance focused amon and it’s so good

[floral ermine]

over the course of last 5 patches or so
almost every class has a "do x and you cant be knocked back for x amount of time" must have perks now
even assault has one

[dusty bramble]

my atling gun fired so fast it sounds like a fart

[lime beacon]

If Randy posted that he likes drinking I'd go stone cold sober immediately

[low hemlock]

can ye ask FatShark to add a hidden feature to let Ogryns hold hands w/ Hadron

👉👈

[strong venture]

I love mandatory perks. Its so fun and encourages a variety of playstyles

[outer jasper]

damn still no meltagun?

[floral ermine]

u dont really have to take them
for example if u take the anti knockback on assault u cant take the >100% increase ground pound dmg

[ocean widget]

Nope

[strong venture]

Nope

[outer jasper]

lame ass update wake me up when its added

[floral ermine]

they're all placed in ways where there's a strong counterpart

[strong venture]

Despite guard having melta guns, no melta for us

[lime beacon]

No but the scabs get a plasma pistol now

[dusty bramble]

wait what

[nocturne flicker]

thank fucking god

[floral ermine]

also they reworked the knockback system itself to be less annoying
after the first knockback itll take waaaaay more hits to knock u back

[dusty bramble]

the plasma gunner applies a toughness debuff???

that’s really cool

[nocturne flicker]

plasma gun

it's a proper one

[outer jasper]

yeah but like is that a meltagun?

[lime beacon]

Thanks professor

[lime beacon]

Yeah, a meltagun that looks like a plasma gun and shoots blue fire that looks plasma

[obtuse oak]

No its a plasma gun

[fast cosmos]

LMAO

[nocturne flicker]

👍

[obtuse oak]

The plasma Gunner has a plasma gun

It shoots plasma

[outer jasper]

I dont think bro konws what a meltagun is

[obtuse oak]

It's red

[outer jasper]

wake me up when darktide adds meltaguns

[obtuse oak]

So I understand the confusion

But it is a plasma

Chaos plasma. They put blood in it or smth. Idk

[lime beacon]

we got a room full of brain warriors huh

[nocturne flicker]

yeah it's just chaos-tainted plasma. and speaking of which

[rocky moat]

it's evil so it's red

simple as that

[strong venture]

Blood is red, plasma is blue... purple?

[lime beacon]

all high and mighty with their one syllable words, lording it over us common folk

[obtuse oak]

Yo we heard you got plasma in your blood so we decided to put blood in your plasma

[outer jasper]

I dont remember the plasma lore but Im pretty sure its literally just a cosmetic thing and default is blue

[nocturne flicker]

i wonder if darkmech are gonna be in darktide to any extent

[nocturne flicker]

there's blood in my plasma system 🗣️

[outer jasper]

same update we get playable tech adepts and meltaguns (never)

[lime beacon]

go back to sleep rip van winkle

[rocky moat]

oh naw they put red 40 in the plasma guns

evil

[lime beacon]

see you in 8 years

[opal wyvern]

So what’s the update

[obtuse oak]

Remember that vox snippet about radium weapons that was somehow just about "good old plasma"

[lime beacon]

[nocturne flicker]

not strawhat's finest hour

[obtuse oak]

Not her fault, I'm sure

[lime beacon]

Fatshark be releasing vox teasers about things that were added to the game years ago

[nocturne flicker]

oh absolutely not but that didn't look good lmao

[dusty bramble]

oh the chainsword buffs seem pretty good

[nocturne flicker]

yeah holy shit

[rocky moat]

power shovel when

[ocean widget]

could've defo phrased it better than the "good old plasma" though

great meme material
shit to read when you first see it

[obtuse oak]

CMs are usually told what to say

[nocturne flicker]

i read the "we buffed crusher HP" note and went "fuck... the powercreep won" but apparently they've also had spawns reduced according to vamp so the situation is salvageable

[obtuse oak]

50% power creep won, 50% trying different design direction

[ocean widget]

what the fuck do content managers even do then if they cant tell the community shit in words that wont make them look like a jackass

[strong venture]

Now the one shots... Are two shots!

[obtuse oak]

You can only spam the same enemy so many times

[strong venture]

The humanity, the horror

[nocturne flicker]

but ts is lazy as hell though and it's just a bandaid to prevent bad players from reviewbomb whining

[outer jasper]

also new bolt weapon marks is cool

[lime beacon]

Hope that the community memes you enough into gaslighting themselves that youre likable

[rocky moat]

is it?

[nocturne flicker]

yeah. it SHOULD be fine

[rocky moat]

i don't think it's very fun to fight like 38 crushers at once

[obtuse oak]

Most of their work is telling their employers what the community says

[nocturne flicker]

talking to a brick wall 💀

[ocean widget]

oh so basically not fucking much then

[obtuse oak]

It's a lot of internal reporting

[strong venture]

Isnt it community manager?

[lime beacon]

political commissar ahh job

[ocean widget]

yeah CM stands for community manager

[obtuse oak]

CMs also manage playtesting at Fatshark which is invisible to yall but a lot of work

[nocturne flicker]

"boss! players want a cosmetics catalogue for the premium store! chances are we'll make more money that way too since people could mix and match stuff they otherwise couldn't with our current fomo system"
"don't care. triple the fomo prices and call it a day"

[obtuse oak]

Probably not far from the truth

[lethal solstice]

What are the actual numbers on the hp tweaks

[obtuse oak]

But that's not the CMs fault, is it?

[nocturne flicker]

yeah absolutely not, i'm actually sympathising here

[lilac crag]

crushers have 6k HP now, elites... I didn't hear anything yet

[obtuse oak]

Uhhh let me see if someone has a list

[lime beacon]

Crushers now have 18million hp and a new armor type called "plot armor"

[nocturne flicker]

scabs got a buff to tankiness to make them stronger than dregs

[lime beacon]

You know what

I think they are sitting on a commissary update

Its just kept in a "break in case of emergency" box

[astral laurel]

Oh boy how are the new trees

[lilac crag]

I only see this as a good change to be honest

[peak falcon]

Okay, plot twist, bleed stacks.