general-chat

[jaunty path]

NO IT'S NOT

[fierce cave]

The factual statement of free is correct

[lethal solstice]

*less than minimum wage

[weak beacon]

It’s free if you have time and patience

[fierce cave]

If you have neither

Get some

[nocturne bloom]

Tbf ive never bought a warbond and I own all of them

[fierce cave]

Same

I'm missing commandos

That's it

[formal mortar]

I don't know if they changed it either, but do they still have the 100 supercredit drops?

[fierce cave]

Not bought one

[tired thicket]

arrowhead will feed you more slop that fs ever will

[fierce cave]

Yeah

Like really rare

[lethal solstice]

Said time and patience could also be spent at your job much more effectively

[fierce cave]

Got 1 so far

[jaunty path]

[fierce cave]

What if your not at your job

Like me

[formal mortar]

When it first came out I got 6 in a row

[fierce cave]

Me rn

[jaunty path]

I'm gonna make more chai

[formal mortar]

Also yeah you could farm, or you could play the missions out and look for POI's and still get them as you go

[fierce cave]

Farming on pcat bay

[jaunty path]

nvm

[nocturne bloom]

Thats a really roundabout way of advertising PTP when you can probably get said warbond with a group of 4 in an hour

[fierce cave]

[nocturne bloom]

Buy it if you dont wanna grind it

Nobody stopping you

[jaunty path]

Honestly

[formal mortar]

Yeah with a group of 4 it's pretty quick

[fierce cave]

Pay the dolar

[fierce cave]

Exactly

So it is free

[jaunty path]

10 dollars is worth more than an hour

[fierce cave]

Just get lucky

[tired thicket]

Or we could play a good game

[lethal solstice]

I can also get the warbond and a drink or something with an hour at work

[jaunty path]

So an hour is much cheaper than a dollar

[fierce cave]

So just play the game

[nocturne bloom]

Cool, go for it

[fierce cave]

[inner nimbus]

also after buying the warbond you still need to get enough medals to actually progress in the warbond

[jaunty path]

Playing video games? Why would I ever play video games?

[formal mortar]

Medals are super easy to come by too

[fierce cave]

That's why it's better to not buy

[stone pendant]

Grinding super credits was only tolerable because I was doing it with the homies, could not imagine doing it otherwise lol

[fierce cave]

[somber stream]

Which is like, 2 days worth of playing at best

For 1 Warbond

[fierce cave]

Or 3 hours of illuminate blitz

[tired thicket]

Why would I play da slopdivers 2

[lethal solstice]

Like having "free" paid currency is nice but gating so much stuff behind it just isn't great

[fierce cave]

Better than sloptide

[somber stream]

Just play normally, it burn you out that way

[fierce cave]

MFS when they can't deal with basic progression

[inner nimbus]

sloptide gameplay is a lot more consistent and engaging than Helldivers has been for a long time now

[nocturne bloom]

Go to the POI you skip every game

[tired thicket]

Narp

[low wharf]

This is the main way to progress however

[formal mortar]

Yeah the weapons and such in hd2 have been getting worse

[inner nimbus]

grunt mentality really ruined HD

[formal mortar]

We used to have more ways to kill things and they've been making it less and less

[nocturne bloom]

Coyote:

[untold skiff]

I just didn't enjoy Helldivers 2 after a while and quit

[fierce cave]

Also about 7 of the strategems are behind warbonds

The rest are free

[lethal solstice]

I played the game for like 200 hours and unlocked most of what was available before I realized I just don't like the game

[weak beacon]

What’s grunt mentality?

[formal mortar]

Used to be able to use pretty much everything but now you have to have specific loadouts

[fierce cave]

7/80ish

[jaunty path]

Living in the fantasy land where I don't need to gamble for dumpstats

[fierce cave]

I use whatever I want

[nocturne bloom]

Past what? 3+ warbonds have had banger weapons?

[lethal solstice]

And what about loadout weapons and armor sets

[tired thicket]

Helldivers is made for gamer dads who wanna play after their 16 hour shift at the slop factory

Like da destiny dads

[nocturne bloom]

2 taps in the ready menu

[tired thicket]

[fierce cave]

Variable is nice coyote too

[inner nimbus]

the game really goes out of its way to make you feel like a 'grunt'
for ex. used to be that you could land on higher places, sometimes where the game didn't intend for you to go, and place turrets/call in strategems from there to sort of setup
now, if you try to do that, the game outright pushes you away from these areas, sometimes preventing you from respawning in exactly the place you want to go to

[weak beacon]

I see

[jaunty path]

Why the fuck did they do that????????????????????????????????

[fierce cave]

2 weapons 1 grenade 2 armor one cape

[inner nimbus]

bleeding used to be basically nothing

[fierce cave]

6 things

[inner nimbus]

now if you start bleeding, you're guaranteed to die unless if you stim immediately

[jaunty path]

That made the game FUN now you're limiting the FUN?

[fierce cave]

Not hard

[fierce cave]

You still can

[stone pendant]

I was loving turrets back when I used to play, and was waiting eagerly for them to fix the bug where the stratagem ball would roll when you threw it somewhere the devs didn't like I guess

Only for it to vanish from known issues and is still not fixed as far as I know

[untold skiff]

Swedish devs hate fun what else is new

[fierce cave]

Just can't land of the new bits

[lethal solstice]

In total, like your pervious 7/80 comparison

[somber stream]

They fixed that, it still take a while for you to die

[inner nimbus]

enemy weakspots are not as obvious (cough charger knees)

[fierce cave]

7 paid 80 free

Strategems

[inner nimbus]

and even though Arrowhead at one point was like 'oh we like people discovering that' they then quickly changed their mind

[lethal solstice]

Yes I understand that

What is the proportion of free to paid weapons

And free to paid armors

[fierce cave]

So

6 armour

7 weapons

Free

[jaunty path]

Do yall want to change the weapon leveling system

[inner nimbus]

btw all the armors that release in a warbond have the exact same passive

the only difference is they're light/medium/heavy

[fierce cave]

So good fr

[jaunty path]

Personally I fuckin hate that I need plasteel and diamantine to fully level up my weapons.

[fierce cave]

You get what you buy

[nocturne bloom]

Thats kinda the point

[jaunty path]

Though that would make them pointless

[tired thicket]

I think he likes helldivers 2

[inner nimbus]

it's really not good lol

[untold skiff]

I hate that I need ordo dockets.

[inner nimbus]

if the armor's passive sucks

congrats! you got a worthless content drop

[fierce cave]

You see inside before you buy

[untold skiff]

I have more plasteel and diamantine then I could realistically use

[stone pendant]

This was the sole reason I started playing havoc ngl, just to get resource drops for plasteel / diamantine

[jaunty path]

Ordo dockets to change blessings and perks?

[fierce cave]

Do research

You can see everything you get before you buy it

[tired thicket]

Waiter more ragebait please

[inner nimbus]

cough Masters of Ceremony cough

[fierce cave]

You see everything in it

[tired thicket]

More slop for da streamers

[fierce cave]

It's for looks

[stone pendant]

Ordo dockets were mainly the problem for me after a while yeah, havoc gives basically nothing ironically

[inner nimbus]

if it's for looks

why can't I equip any look I want

while keeping my current armor passive

[nocturne bloom]

Current bonus is pretty good tbh

[fierce cave]

Womp womp

I use any armour I want

[inner nimbus]

the current one is good, the one it launched with was horrible to the point it had to be overworked almost immediately

[fierce cave]

Because of the look

I don't care about passives

[untold skiff]

More that I have so much more of the other crafting resources that when I roll a new weapon I'm docket capped and not capped by anything else.

[nocturne bloom]

Im aware

[fierce cave]

[stone pendant]

Is the flag still god awful / a meme

[inner nimbus]

it's even worse, melee weapons used to at least stagger and go through heavy armor so you could somewhat use them

now they don't afaiik

used to be possible to fight off a charger with a melee weapon, now you get your ass handed to you

[jaunty path]

HD2 really needs to seperate armor and cosmetic values

[tired thicket]

Yeah we hate fun

We hate engaging in new ways

[stone pendant]

Yeah I remember seeing Masters of Ceremony when it first dropped (the new passive is actually good yeah) and thinking it was the first genuine meme warbond that they ever dropped from how bad everything seemed lol

[inner nimbus]

it really grinds my gears cus like, what's the point of the Viper Commando's armor, i.e. the armor that makes melee stronger

[fierce cave]

Let me go hit this tank with a shovel

[lofty wing]

An H40 win gives like 40-50 game's worth of plasteel and diamantine and like 2 game's worth of ordos lol. If you play havoc at all you will always be bottlenecked by just ordos

[inner nimbus]

if melee sucks

[fierce cave]

Oh no

It didn't phase through the armour

[untold skiff]

Anyways take care slop tiders I will pretend I don't hate my job for 2 more days

[fierce cave]

[inner nimbus]

exactly my point, grunt mentality

I used to be able to do exactly that

and then the devs went 'wtf' and now you can't

[fierce cave]

The game is pve

[nocturne bloom]

I run the machete on D10
Its usable

[inner nimbus]

imagine if Darktide did the exact same thing

[fierce cave]

Just deal with changes

[inner nimbus]

all of a sudden if you don't have blunt weapons

you do no damage to Crushers

I do deal with the changes

[jaunty path]

I think hd2 would do great with some melee functionality

[inner nimbus]

and the way everyone deals with changes

fucking sucks

[fierce cave]

Not well clearly

[stone pendant]

Yeah, when I got like 4-5 H40 wins in 1.0, I was pretty much set across all my characters until around when Arbites dropped lol

[tired thicket]

Everyone would use like 3 weapons

No fun

[inner nimbus]

and all of them would have capabilities of clearing medium or especially heavy armor

[fierce cave]

Helldivers2 is balanced

[inner nimbus]

no it's not

[lethal solstice]

Are you sure

[fierce cave]

Everything does something

[delicate fox]

me when i lie

[inner nimbus]

there's so much power creep

[lethal solstice]

I mean

[tired thicket]

Delusional

[fierce cave]

The ars are all being buffed

[jaunty path]

Warstriders:

[lethal solstice]

This is objectively correct

[fierce cave]

There not hard

[inner nimbus]

what's the point of running smth like the Amendment or Constitution when Deadeye just, does it all better

[fierce cave]

One grenade

[lethal solstice]

All weapons do in fact shoot or swing

Most of the time

[fierce cave]

Because different weapons

I play for fun

IDC about deep statistics

[tired thicket]

Arrowhead sucks at balancing

[jaunty path]

You play for fun?

[fierce cave]

1% more damage

[inner nimbus]

so do I, and it turns out, beating Super Helldives feels fun

[fierce cave]

Give me that

[jaunty path]

In video games?

[inner nimbus]

and it helps the most in the war

the thing is, the devs are in a constant rush to patch out the 'meta'

which, leads to another meta coming about

one that isn't as fun

[tired thicket]

Preach

[fierce cave]

So then all the weapons are usable

[inner nimbus]

no they're not

[fierce cave]

I use every gun in the game

They have weaknesses and strengths

[inner nimbus]

take the Blitzer to a Super Helldive Bot game

[fierce cave]

Everything is usable

[tired thicket]

All my weapons are now wet noodles

[inner nimbus]

and see how many times you get fucked

[jaunty path]

more needs to be done so we don't always need to bring something like medium pen light pen weapons need more support...

[fierce cave]

Died 5 times

But won

[jaunty path]

Something that reqards aim

[fierce cave]

Anti material rifle

[lethal solstice]

Medium pen

[stone pendant]

I still remember when someone at AH thought it was a great idea to absolutely dumpster fire right before they dropped the fire warbond lmao

[lethal solstice]

Did you not read

[tired thicket]

Quite sweetie an Xbox helldiver is talking listen and learn

[fierce cave]

I played before Xbox release

[nocturne bloom]

Lever action

[jaunty path]

lmfao

[lethal solstice]

Also medium pen

[fierce cave]

Most shotguns

[weak beacon]

I played in the ye old days of hd2

[nocturne bloom]

Amendment if you like light pen then

[untold skiff]

You would use incendiary breaker with rail gun and you would like it.

[inner nimbus]

why would you ever take worse armor pen

[delicate fox]

cause they look cooler

[inner nimbus]

well then I guess you'll leave a very cool corpse

[nocturne bloom]

Because apparently im not allowed to suggest med pen weapons that award accuracy

[delicate fox]

yeah i will

[lethal solstice]

Swag factor for weapons is more attractive when they actually feel different

[delicate vapor]

looks like everyone is getting along

[lethal solstice]

And shooting them is fun beyond like the first 5 seconds

[jaunty path]

I find the dog emote to be fucking hilarious btw

[delicate fox]

and i did actually, because light pen was a nightmare for dealing with the rupture swarm

[lethal solstice]

They asked for light pen weapons that do

[fierce cave]

Fun

[nocturne bloom]

Halo shotgun

[lethal solstice]

Weapons in hd2 aren't that fun though

Especially shitty ones you would only take for fun

[jaunty path]

Do Helldivers 2 players experience happiness

I ask this as a former hd2 addict

[delicate fox]

no we're an offshoot of destiny 2 players, it's impossible to experience joy

[inner nimbus]

no, I quit the game cus it became very annoying to fight every single faction

[lethal solstice]

Like sure I could take the basic assault rifle

[fierce cave]

Yeah

All the time

[inner nimbus]

also the fucking

major order

to hit a million troopers with the Orbital Rail Shot

[fierce cave]

Womp womp

[lethal solstice]

But it feels literally identical to the statistically superior one

[jaunty path]

I simply do not pay attention to the major order

[fierce cave]

Not hard

[lethal solstice]

So why would i

[inner nimbus]

y'know, the thing used to destroy big targets with automatic targetting

[jaunty path]

this game hands out medals like candy

[nocturne bloom]

(Dropships)

[jaunty path]

leave for like a week and get 250 meddys

[jaunty path]

OH WHAT

[tired thicket]

No

[jaunty path]

WHAAAAAT

THE FUCK

LOL

NO

[tired thicket]

They have Stockholm syndrome

[inner nimbus]

yeah not hard, you just have to
clear out anything larger than the most basic bot
throw it close enough to a basic trooper
kill them with it
wait 3 minutes to do so again
do it a million times, collectively

[delicate fox]

yeah

[jaunty path]

Oh no

[nocturne bloom]

You can bring 2, dropship kills with troops on it counts

[lethal solstice]

Like the game is cool as long as you have new toys to play with but the game seems to do its best to hinder getting the new toys without paying money or sinking a lot of time

[jaunty path]

The "basic trooper" is carrying so much weight

[stone pendant]

Ultimately for me, I'd just want bug fixing / optimization done at the very least before I'd throw myself at HD2 fully again.

Also insane the game has ballooned to 141 GB on PC lol

[lethal solstice]

Otherwise it's just kinda OK and a technical disaster

[jaunty path]

they're asking you to take out little shits with a rail cannon

thats so fucking stupid

do they not play the game

[delicate fox]

do railcannon strikes still prioritze brood commanders above all else on the bug front

[obtuse oak]

That MO is clearly a joke, no?

[jaunty path]

That sounds like an april fools order

[tired thicket]

No it’s the best thing ever because… JUST BECAUSE OK?

[inner nimbus]

still, especially on higher difficulties, let's say there's like 10-20 basic troopers on the ship
and again, you still have to have the Railcannon shot hit the ship before it leaves

[jaunty path]

I hope so lol.

[nocturne bloom]

It takes like a sec and a half to fire. Thats user error tbh

[inner nimbus]

it also takes however long for it to fly to the area

and it also has to detect the ship instead of idk, a tank, or strider, or anything else

and there's better, faster ways to take down dropships

[lethal solstice]

And less extremely expensive ones

[nocturne bloom]

If its blocked by terrain yes, it repositions, to actually fire it doesnt take longer than 2 sec tops

[inner nimbus]

and it has a cooldown of 3 minutes

[nocturne bloom]

Considering you could also bring one for 2 shots, total everyone could have 8. Thats a lot of rail shots

[jaunty path]

someday. I'm gonna get darktide burnout

someday.

[lethal solstice]

You get 13 railgun shots a mission if you fire off cool down the entire mission

[jaunty path]

but man zealot is addictive

How do I romance the tactical axe

I was told there are romance options in this game

[inner nimbus]

imagine failing the taxe romance minigame

[jaunty path]

How do I marry the evisorator

[lethal solstice]

23 million dockets, the Dorn Special

[formal mortar]

Ended up in a DT match and was going to explain why I said you have to use specific loadouts in HD2, but Nategore got it pretty covered

[nocturne bloom]

Now consider the fact everyone can bring 2

[formal mortar]

They forced a meta while also saying they are trying to not have a meta

[lethal solstice]

You can?

Since when

[nocturne bloom]

Always

If you get a free strat you can bring the same one

[surreal ermine]

i see so many people take it idk why 😭 13 whole kills that might shoot something you didn't intend
probably less because you aint using it on cd

[tacit geode]

Or miss

[lethal solstice]

So only under specific conditions

Cool

[tacit geode]

Don't forget it may just miss

[nocturne bloom]

We're talking about the MO lol, obviously

[inner nimbus]

fr, there's better strategems that have a wider usecase

including a better 'fire and forget and deal damage to big guy' strategem

[lethal solstice]

110 rockets

[nocturne bloom]

Functionally im not disagreeing, it is a dumb MO, but everyone bringing 2 shots adds up a lot. You get 8 shots on a dropship wave

[lethal solstice]

They do the same thing but better

[surreal ermine]

110s kinda suck too but id take them any day over railcannon

[inner nimbus]

110s can reliably take out almost any bot tank iirc

[lethal solstice]

Oh did they get powercrept

[formal mortar]

I always take 380mm

[inner nimbus]

at least they could back when I played

[formal mortar]

110's are hit or miss these days

[surreal ermine]

no one of the missiles has a tendency to miss on anything that isnt fuckhuge and it can make it not kill

[delicate fox]

no, they've always been kind of inconsistent

[untold skiff]

Is the 500 kg still used?

[lethal solstice]

Is the sun still burning?

[formal mortar]

Yeah, you'll almost never be in a match without it

[surreal ermine]

500kg is like the most used strat on all fronts iirc

[lethal solstice]

It's literally like

THE most known stratagem in the game

[formal mortar]

I think I might be one of the few people who doesn't take it much

[delicate fox]

500kg is the posterboy stratagem

[untold skiff]

I mean I have not played hd 2 since close to launch how am I supposed to know.

[surreal ermine]

its kinda mid but its flashy and easy to use and still solid so everyone takes it

[lethal solstice]

Shit made it into a court hearing

[formal mortar]

Anyways, I hope they actually give ARs a proper buff and not the nonsense they like to pull

Where they buff a stat then nerf a stat to fuck it all up again

[lethal solstice]

No no they gave ars a buff

[surreal ermine]

orbital laser is also taken very often and that one i dont understand when it has a horrible tendency to waste its runtime on one enemy or waste its runtime on going back and forth between enemies

[lethal solstice]

They made the Coyote

[formal mortar]

Oh all of the ARs are buffed?

[lethal solstice]

No

There's just a good one now

[formal mortar]

Or are you saying just the Coyote is a good gun?

[inner nimbus]

honestly at this point my biggest gripe with HD is that all of the factions feel annoying or at least not fun/interesting to fight against

[formal mortar]

Then that's pointless

They didn't do anything then

[halcyon glen]

Ee

[lethal solstice]

Yes

[inner nimbus]

bugs just spam Alpha Commanders at you, Illuminate with their Elevated Overseers and those fucking gunships

[lethal solstice]

Bots are being stuck in a corner clicking heads

Bugs is just kiting hell

[surreal ermine]

theres only like 2 actually bad ARs the other ones are perfectly servicable 😭

[inner nimbus]

the bots, through just, changes in the game itself, are a lot less interesting to fight nowadays

and I mean

I already helped drive them out once

[formal mortar]

Yeah the Alpha Commanders is a spawn bug because they don't work in 4mans

[inner nimbus]

hell, technically twice considering the Creek

[lethal solstice]

And illuminates is kiting hell AND trying to shoot flying bastards

Plus it's super easy to waste damage against them

[inner nimbus]

my main problem with Elevated Overseers is just

you can retreat from almost any fight

[delicate fox]

at least for bots i'd assume it's usually taken for big bases, even though walking barrage and 380 are also able to do that.

[inner nimbus]

unless Illuminates because those motherfuckers just follow you

and on higher difficulties there's so goddamn many of them

[formal mortar]

I never am able to retreat from bugs....

[inner nimbus]

I remember back during the defense of SE, the like mission type where you have to destroy ships before too many of them land

[lethal solstice]

And illuminate zombies have really bad kill registration

[inner nimbus]

like it was an innevitability that you would just get swarmed with Elevated

[astral basin]

Aaaa

[formal mortar]

Those giant flesh mobs the illuminate have are such bs

[lethal solstice]

I know it's thematic for zombies but I would like to know if the thing I shot is dead

[astral basin]

Whats up

[inner nimbus]

just, the game's gotten annoying, and tbf I'm fine with the amount of playtime I got out of it

160h is nothing to sneeze at

[astral basin]

The voteless are just crusty bullet sponges. It’s annoying

[jaunty path]

only 160 hours?

You're wasting your money!

[lethal solstice]

I got like 200 hours before my brain actually overwhelmed the "just a little more and it'll be fun" problem

[somber stream]

I'm trying my damnest to keep the game under 1000h

[inner nimbus]

I enjoyed my time, I was there for the Creek and it's downfall, I was there when we drew the bots out, I helped demolish Meridia (iirc that's what that planet was called), helped make the DSS, helped investigate the Gloom and fight it back, helped defend Super Earth

t'was fun, but the game's not for me anymore lol

[lethal solstice]

It's just super repetitive and trying to keep it not repetitive by running different loadouts is actively harmful to you

[jaunty path]

guys I have 359.9 hours in darktide, when does it get fun

[inner nimbus]

if anything, Sony'd been trying really hard the last while to make it not for me by limiting it to my country

[lethal solstice]

Unlike darktide where I can make dumb shit work with skill

[formal mortar]

I can agree that I enjoyed the game up until recently

[surreal ermine]

i have grown very jaded about hd2 from arrowheads just unending incompetence and the insane amount of misinfo surrounding the game

[lethal solstice]

Arrowhead was not ready for this game

And still aren't

[formal mortar]

Increasing charger leg health so it's not a "weak spot" is an example, because they want you to shoot it in the head, but it's still faster to shoot the leg

[inner nimbus]

that's the difference between HD and DT for me

[lethal solstice]

They cannot stop the train to do repairs or they will get lynched

[inner nimbus]

while both games require skill, DT's systems inherintly place a lot more emphasis on it

as has Vermintide before it

sure, you could run the meta weapons for your class/character

you could also run whatever you felt like if you were good enough with it

[lethal solstice]

Darktides level of skill expression is actually unseen elsewhere

[inner nimbus]

my good buddy, Janfon, used to play a Witch Hunter Captain with the axe in Vermintide

he played one of the best classes in that game with one of the worst weapons

and he was good with it cus he was good at the game

[surreal ermine]

yeah that is why i prefer darktide these days, there is little to no skill expression in a lot of hd2 just because of how the game was designed

[lethal solstice]

You run and time your cooldowns

[jaunty path]

hd2 in memory feels like a proning simulator.

[lethal solstice]

And try not to get cornered

[surreal ermine]

its a whole lot of knowledge checks and besides aiming thats about it

[jaunty path]

A lot of running, and a lot of dying.

[lethal solstice]

Yep

[jaunty path]

And a lot of the time

[lethal solstice]

Run in circles and hit the objectives on the way

[jaunty path]

you die trying to get your shit back

[lethal solstice]

Then run in smaller circles

[inner nimbus]

and then usually die to some overtuned piece of shit

[jaunty path]

honestly

[inner nimbus]

cough bunkers cough

[jaunty path]

I should've just played on difficulty 8

super helldive was too much

[lethal solstice]

And then run in larger metaphorical circles trying to get stuff to run in the other circles more effectively

[formal mortar]

Super Helldive used to be fun

[obtuse oak]

HD2 felt like more of a checklist simulator to me also. "Lets optimize our route through the map and hit up all these objectives in the most efficient order and extract with the maximum amount of resources" is a fun little minigame of its own if you're into that, but I prefer the linear progression of a Darktide mission that naturally funnels everyone in the same direction anyway and it's more about the moment to moment combat or specific setpieces

[lethal solstice]

I had fun occasionally but I generally needed a friend or to turn my brain off and watch the fireworks

[tacit geode]

HD2 is fun if you wanna blow stuff up but personally I find as soon as you can like... aim... you have peaked in skill

[formal mortar]

I think HD2 works a lot better if you send 1 guy off, or you split into 2 groups of 2

[jaunty path]

After you learn how to aim it's about timing and reading the vibe.

And the vibes are off, oftenly.

[lethal solstice]

The game not being fun combined with super "pay or grind your ass of" content gating and mountains of bugs just makes it not fun

All with a 140 gb install that will only grow at this rate

[jaunty path]

Around the time I dropped helldivers

is when I played mainly bugs

and fighting bugs was fun tbh

[surreal ermine]

the fucking monetization is genuinely awful but people defend it because arrowhead is some wholesome chungus dev to a lot of people for some reason

[jaunty path]

I liked the pred strain

[tacit geode]

But you can earn super credits though.
new player opens game to 10 paid warbonds and will soon learn that it is infact all the new progression they will ever add

[jaunty path]

Never criticize the zillion dollar company

[surreal ermine]

mfs will call darktides monetization bad when its 90% cosmetics and one class thats cheaper than a warbond then turn around and defend a huge majority of hd2s gear being locked behind a massive grind or paying up

[formal mortar]

Eh, the grind doesn't feel bad in hd2 imo

[jaunty path]

Darktide is free after you buy the game

all the paid shit is just cosmetics

ignoring arby

[formal mortar]

Arby is just a vet cosmetic

[jaunty path]

Which is at an ok price i guess.

Could be lower...

[formal mortar]

Get low~

[tacit geode]

And putting weapons in a rotating shop

[jaunty path]

people should only buy shit on sale anyway

[surreal ermine]

wait i mixed up the price of arby whoops
still its nowhere near as bad as hd2

[surreal ermine]

i cant believe people didnt make a bigger stink about this when it started happening man i hate it

[formal mortar]

Oh snap it's 3am time to get ready to cook

[jaunty path]

For hd2 yeah?

[surreal ermine]

yeah

[jaunty path]

Yeah...

I think its bc everyone is used to it

every game is doing it now

To the point where its very much expected

[surreal ermine]

the average gamer is a dog who should be beaten with hammers
seeing the ridiculous amount of money fifa mtx makes radicalized me more than i could have possibly known

[formal mortar]

Dogs shouldn't be harmed

[tacit geode]

Another one that really bothers me actually is infact "You can earn super credits!"

Well given armours have gameplay effects I'd fucking hope so

[jaunty path]

Dt needs more cosmetics in the normal game shop

Like

I'd be fuckin nice lmao

[tacit geode]

They should also gain gameplay benefits

[jaunty path]

Oh well us poor rejects not getting anything soon.

[obtuse oak]

Yeah this scares me off as well. I'd have to grind so much to get the new stuff that I missed if I want to get back into it

But it doesn't seem like a fun game to grind

[tacit geode]

It's not!

[surreal ermine]

its not it stinks
you run around on difficulty 1 for ~3 hours

[tacit geode]

Level 1 missions and you slot machine for super credits

[obtuse oak]

Darktide requiring a lot of grinding to get good gear back in year 1 was also fucking awful

[lethal solstice]

At a rate less than federal minimum wage, yes

[surreal ermine]

and you need a second guy to open bunkers unless you buy control group for the warp pack

[lethal solstice]

I'd genuinely say just buy every warbond if it wouldn't make me feel super gross for suggesting you pay 100$ on top of your 40$ game

[surreal ermine]

yeah its fucking awful monetization for a game thats already $40

[tacit geode]

You can use a mech

[surreal ermine]

if it were f2p itd be a different story

[jaunty path]

Darktide needs custom maps

A workshop would make this game flourish

[surreal ermine]

wuh? is there some bug to phase into bunkers with them?

[jaunty path]

I need to go to bed.

[tacit geode]

Yeah get in push the back against the door and get out

Clips into bunkers

[obtuse oak]

I think this engine would kill anyone who tries to make custom maps outright

[surreal ermine]

huh didnt know that, would slow you down like hell though compared to warp pack or a second guy

[jaunty path]

Life is so confusing...and scary...I don't know what to do with my life after college....it's so scary.....

[lethal solstice]

$10 for 2 guns (maybe, we feel silly sometimes and make it 1) 2 armor sets (which only differ in HP), a grenade (maybe), a buff (maybe), and sometimes a stratagem (you'll have to lose one of the earlier things for it though)

[tacit geode]

Yup but it can be done

[obtuse oak]

Get a job and two hobbies

[jaunty path]

Shrimply adapt

[jaunty path]

Thats the plan currently. And therapy.

[obtuse oak]

Then you're good

[tacit geode]

Videogame equivalent of peeping the horror

[jaunty path]

I got two hobbies i do not touch enough. And im working on building a work area for compartmentalization

[lethal solstice]

Darktide custom maps would also just be

[jaunty path]

NEED

[surreal ermine]

nightmare nightmare nightmare
dont forget the game being borderline unplayable on update

[jaunty path]

CUSTOM MAPS WOULD BE AWESOME

Neeeeed

[lethal solstice]

Unfathomably worse than what we have currently

[obtuse oak]

All anyone needs is purpose. A job that pays the bills and hobbies that turn your disposable income into fun. Start a family if you're into that once you're financially stable when you're 37

[somber stream]

Raising a child at 37 sounds like hell

You'd be 57 once they hit uni

[obtuse oak]

Remember: existentialism is truth. Life has no meaning except that which you ascribe to it. "Having a good time" is a valid life goal.

[jaunty path]

I'm never having kids sorry I'm not emotionally stable enough for that! Plus I've already been taking care of two fully grown adults for my entire life!

[jaunty path]

Mhm

I'll try to survive without losing my mind.

[obtuse oak]

No worries, it's completely optional

[astral basin]

Hank hours

[obtuse oak]

For me it was a good path that added a new layer of purpose and meaning to everything I do, but you need to want it

[tacit geode]

Don't pick up painting minis if you like the income.

Don't.

[jaunty path]

Gud night homosexuals

[obtuse oak]

Sleep tight

[astral basin]

Feeding bed bugs? Lame

[tacit geode]

Darktide?

[astral basin]

Tidedark

[agile leaf]

The night before BOUND BY DUTY

[amber delta]

if we could convert 10 million dockets into 1 aquilla this game would have 100 million concurrent players FS listen to me

[sage dragon]

good luck with that

[green shoal]

I think 10 million dockets for 1000 aquila could maybe work.. it takes a long time to get 10 million dockets, and 1000 aquila doesn't buy much, but it buys something

[long sigil]

what the f

no vid

wait when we get update?

[tacit geode]

Tomorrow

[long sigil]

how no vid

not a fat shark move

[tacit geode]

And the YouTube videos are allowed to be released in around 8 hours

[tacit geode]

Well press videos

[amber delta]

secret patch

fs scared of patch notes because they nerfed DS

[tacit geode]

This but unironically

[amber delta]

it would be funny if they did fromsoft kind of patchlog that just said "various balance changes to several weapons"

[obtuse oak]

embargo lifts in 7 hours, vid then

I don't know why FS hasn't posted any devblogs or trailers themselves

[long sigil]

something is wrong

[obtuse oak]

there's a decent amount of stuff to cover, it's a pretty big patch ngl

they could have posted a lot

[long sigil]

i guess fat shark rest so much huh

[surreal ermine]

theyre hiding the s*x update from us

[long sigil]

huh

[gentle gulch]

maybe they don't think its worth to post any blog

[long sigil]

40k sex💀

[obtuse oak]

I don't understand why lol

[long sigil]

genestealer trailer

[gentle gulch]

unless there is too way much stuff that maybe they are having issues in formating dev blogs and they just may release one once the update comes

[stuck wasp]

CM change might have cause some slow down

[somber stream]

It stinks

I can feel it

[gentle gulch]

i think mortis stuff dont think is that interesting

vet weapon good but idk

[amber delta]

this would not have happened if I was CM

[gentle gulch]

it would still happened cause fatshark superiors would not allowed you to post those blogs

[obtuse oak]

the update? no it's good.

[long sigil]

you can go test ver?

[amber delta]

I would ignore the superiors

[obtuse oak]

I'm looking forward to it dropping for various reasons

[amber delta]

blog posts for the blog god

[somber stream]

I'm talking about the technical stuff that goes behind the scene

[gentle gulch]

also arbites update they said it was good the playtesters but then arbites its an unbalanced archetype

[obtuse oak]

oh that part, yeah could be.

[long sigil]

it must be good

or fat shark die

[somber stream]

Things break, that's why they're reluctant to share any update yet

[obtuse oak]

the press preview build is working though.

[gentle gulch]

fired then

[tacit geode]

Something weird is going on behind the scenes 100%

[gentle gulch]

plus they will make sure to not delete loner aura

[obtuse oak]

gonna be plenty of videos to watch tonight

[tacit geode]

I hope it can get resolved soon

[gentle gulch]

vet rework

[molten matrix]

this might be a combination of fatshark having an update just after the weekend and also needing a new CM

[surreal ermine]

vet dework
they made him worse

[obtuse oak]

I made a video as well, and I only make Ogryn content. so make of that what you will

[molten matrix]

thats why the blogpost has been shifted to a day before

[thick fog]

Today

[gentle gulch]

ogryn buffed even more

[thick fog]

Ogryn nerfs confirmed

[gentle gulch]

buffs confirmed

[thick fog]

shush

[somber stream]

New stuff for Vet
Only play Ogryn

Why are you like this

[molten matrix]

arbites buff confirmed

[gentle gulch]

mortis stuff new map bad

there should be a new map for normal auric

or ggs

[obtuse oak]

I said I only make Ogryn content. I play every class, I have all of the four starter class penances finished

[arctic escarp]

today's temp reached up to 34c how tf??

[gentle gulch]

so it implies that there are also additions to ogryns in this update

[somber stream]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm

[gentle gulch]

nda broken

[molten matrix]

i heard that vet is getting a vengeance launcher

very true btw

[tacit geode]

I'm getting a little excited this isn't good.

[gentle gulch]

i imagine also some rebalance since they were talking about to nerf plasma gun/ds

even though obviously its not only that the problem

[molten matrix]

If i dont get a powerfist im geeking out

[gentle gulch]

dont get your hopes high with fatshark

epic cole typing

everyone let him speak

[zenith merlin]

I'm guessing this will be the power saber + scab plasma gunner update and nothing else

[hidden trout]

darktide is free with these 2 coupons that oddly look like 40 dollars

[amber delta]

but are we getting performance improvements

or is that too much to ask

[gentle gulch]

and no maps for auric

only for mortis

[gentle gulch]

nope

game too way unoptimized

[zenith merlin]

mortis trials is a dream scenario. this is a reference to the fact that the gamemode will make you sleep irl

[gentle gulch]

sleepy game mode yea

[amber delta]

its a premium game for premium gamers

[long sigil]

is plasma shooter cool>?

[arctic escarp]

any blogpost yet

[somber stream]

NOTHING

[molten matrix]

We have 0 info on the plasma gunner except a callout

[somber stream]

Literally 1 day from release and still nothing. It's bad

[gentle gulch]

maybe few hrs before the actual relesae if not within the actual release

[arctic escarp]

mashallah

[gentle gulch]

will be a temporary enemy for mortis trial only

special event cause prob there will be also an event

[agile leaf]

Hopemaxxing is important

[zenith merlin]

plasma gunner is literally just gonna be a scab shotgunner if the traitor captains plasma pistol is anything to go about

[molten matrix]

Apperantly the plasma gunners arent event based

[amber delta]

trust the process, they are doing a team cherry release

[gentle gulch]

they learnt from silksong

[agile leaf]

Trust the plan

[gentle gulch]

do not post anything about it

[tacit geode]

After release

[gentle gulch]

but silksong didnt give press builds either to journalists so

dt did that

[gentle gulch]

yea

[somber stream]

This will totally goes without a hitch

[gentle gulch]

i think maybe also they just dont wanna make hype die by showing the blog

cause mortis trial stuff = 💤

1 new enemy its not much also

and 1 new weapon with possibly maybe new marks idk

only for 1 archetype unless others may be able to use it too

[agile leaf]

I remember hearing Sefoni mention something about Mortis Operatives

[tacit geode]

It's probably only for Vet

[gentle gulch]

ggs

[agile leaf]

So maybe it'll be related to smthn like that

[tacit geode]

They're owed a weapon

[somber stream]

Speculations speculations

[agile leaf]

What new weapon

[somber stream]

Let's hope we get to talk about Darktide again tomorrow, for the better

[gentle gulch]

yes but melee? or ranged

[tacit geode]

Never specified

They only said "a weapon"

[gentle gulch]

vet its mostly about all ranging idk

[surreal ermine]

talking about darktide? in the darktide server? thats stupid smh

[gentle gulch]

id preferred a ranged weapon

[agile leaf]

Stub pistol for veteran

That'd be a gem

Or an oversized stub pistol for ogryn

[inner river]

A STUB CANNON for ogryn

[tacit geode]

Once the teaser picture came out the vet weapon was pretty much confirmed. The real madness was people claiming he was also holding a gun in his left hand

[stuck wasp]

That's not really how the game work tbh.
Vet is just the Imperial Guard character, nothing more, they're not less melee than the other

[inner river]

LIke
From neçromunda

[stuck wasp]

Ogryn don't get those in Munda

[agile leaf]

What teaser picture did I miss something besides the teaser trailer

[stuck wasp]

Only the Goliath do

[gentle gulch]

most of the dmg in dt comes from ranging and grenades from veterans

[tacit geode]

Can't be arsed sending the full thing it's on the launcher this is literally the only important part
#veteran-class message

[amber delta]

I only kill with VoC

[agile leaf]

Ohhh that one I never paid attention to it

[gentle gulch]

enemies killed by the golden toughness

cause radioactive

[agile leaf]

That does look like a power sabre

[gentle gulch]

with some heat mechanic similar to relic blade prob

[green shoal]

So it sounds like people think Bound by Duty will be:

• 1 Mortis Trials map
• 1 new gunner enemy
• 1 weapon for vet

[tacit geode]

It has that yes according to leaks

[agile leaf]

That'd be cool but also kinda lame just copying stuff over

[gentle gulch]

rip power swords

power crept by the new power sabres

[molten matrix]

inb4 the power saber is a shop skin😂

[amber delta]

power swords are now active at all times but each swing has a 1% chance to make you explode

[surreal ermine]

power dueling sword shall introduce a new level of powercreep never seen before alhamdulilah

[little marten]

BLOG

[agile leaf]

Wat

[gentle gulch]

tomorrow

[agile leaf]

Is it happening

Aww

[gentle gulch]

no he gave false hope

[tacit geode]

No... wait that's blood

[agile leaf]

Hopemaxxing forever

[amber delta]

[inner river]

Tzeentchian ass

[sage dragon]

so, we still got problem...

[inner river]

I am the spy
Fucking explodes

[little marten]

Sorry I wasn’t announcing the blog I was DEMANDING it

[ripe tangle]

It gets that hot here this time of the year every afternoon

[agile leaf]

You know that soldier actually typed in the correct door code

[ripe tangle]

and my RV doesn’t have AC

[timber marten]

Where are the update details??????

[ripe tangle]

I just survive in the hotbox

[timber marten]

Im gonna blow

[inner river]

People be getting impatiemt

[sage dragon]

Calm down, they will give to us when they are ready, which should be around 9:00 am, at least where I am on the east US coast.

[green shoal]

they're in your heart, they've been with you all along

[timber marten]

I was getting impatient last week

[hidden trout]

7 hours from now

[agile leaf]

Somebody has to make the "NIGHT BEFORE BOUND BY DUTY" poster

It's veteran and ogryn just staring at the ceiling

[timber marten]

How many hours from now, im gonna burst

[timber marten]

Noooooooo

[hidden trout]

I think someone just said

[inner river]

7 pm my time
How many bricks must i eat to pass out until then?

[sage dragon]

somebody should convince them to do a community poll to influence what the next mission would be like

[tacit geode]

Surely a ship raid would win

[timber marten]

Refering to yourself in thirdperson

[safe oasis]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zui18Bk-3U&t=321s hi guys,so i followed this video super strictly and didnt deviate even abit but i dont see my mods at all. I do see the Mod Options tab tho,but nothing inside. Whats going on

[tacit geode]

Like by a lot

[agile leaf]

6 PM for me bro

That's nuts

[amber delta]

is this rickroll link

[sage dragon]

maybe, maybe not. depends on how many people want to smash stuff in the upper spires

[safe oasis]

I promise its not,im tryna mod and its a tutorial vid from Mister E thats like a month old

Would post screenshots here but i cant

[stuck wasp]

Dreg/Scab raiding the Mourningstar wouldn't really work well

[tacit geode]

Did you write it into the mod load order text file?

[stuck wasp]

Us rainding back the Tancred Bastion though

[safe oasis]

Yes I did

[stuck wasp]

That could work

[thick fog]

You can post but not in this channel

[inner river]

I wanna break century old vases

[molten matrix]

Or just use the auto mod load order mod

[safe oasis]

Where can i??

[sage dragon]

like in that fan film lord inquisitor? yeah me too

[inner river]

DISRESPECT THE POTTERY

[agile leaf]

What if they're gonna make havoc but for sefoni

[thick fog]

Other channels but not general

[amber delta]

sorry that's my fault I posted too many brainrot images

[somber stream]

WHERE THE BLOG

[inland mantle]

I ate it mb

[somber stream]

Wtf spit it out

[inland mantle]

No taste good

[somber stream]

🗞️

[sage dragon]

Calm down. FS will give it to us when they are ready. Shouting will not make their job any easier, since they got ton of other stuff on their plate. Isn't that right @umbral field ?

[little marten]

WHERE IS THE BLOG

[stuck wasp]

Patch notes will be alongside the patch, but it is strange that we didn't (won't?) get an early document

[somber stream]

🫵

[sage dragon]

maybe they just want us to be pleasantly suprised, and not have too many high expectations

[somber stream]

The expectations are low, trust me. If any at all

It's the lack of communication

[inland mantle]

Fs doing what they do best

Ghosting the fuck out of us

[little marten]

WE ARE BUT CONDEMNED SOULS, TAUNTING THE REAPERS SCYTHE FOR BUT A FLEETING MOMENT MORE

[stuck wasp]

CM change musn't have made thing easier

[sage dragon]

least they are decent than some other game companies I can name

[tacit geode]

I mean would they really let youtybers explain what's in the update instead of themselves? I know FS communication isn't always great but this is god awful even by their standards

[little marten]

Takes like 20 mins to write a blog ngl

[amber delta]

Fatshark need Randy Pitchford for some PR

[little marten]

Actually let’s say an hour

[inland mantle]

Oh god pls no

[molten matrix]

alot longer considering all of them had issues with steam formatting

[dapper trench]

Oh

Calm down

You guys are acting like it was early 2025 all over again

[obtuse oak]

at least he'd have written something

[stuck wasp]

Writing perhaps, but need to collate the info, hunt the individual devs to check stuff up, then there is the writing on all the platform, correcting formating error, spell checking...

[obtuse oak]

[dapper trench]

where we didnt get any content updates for what? 4 months?

[obtuse oak]

anyway occam's razor says the blogs are blocked by something other than actually writing them

[little marten]

We calm bro

[obtuse oak]

since that's obviously not the super complex part

[sage dragon]

good day Hank! enjoying the conversations?

[little marten]

I settled on dark urge swords bard

[dapper trench]

How long was that long break Fatshark earlier this year?

[safe oasis]

Here I posted screenshots for proof #gameplay-help message

[amber delta]

your 2 years old hardware is just too dogshit to run our premium game

[sage dragon]

NDA maybe?

[little marten]

Their own NDA

[safe oasis]

I posted in #gameplay-help message

[safe oasis]

Idk what went wrong fr

[stuck wasp]

Wasn't even 4 month (December 24 to March 25)

[tacit geode]

How long does it take to get approved

[inland mantle]

Did you run the toggle_darktide_mods

[sage dragon]

depends on whos reviewing it probably

[safe oasis]

Yes

Like i said i followed the tutorial vid super close

[obtuse oak]

chaosmaxxing, nice

you should definitely make time to help alfira with her song then

in the grove

[green shoal]

Maybe they're just a bit shy.. but if we put some kitten treats on the floor and hide around the corner, they'll come out and say what the update is

[obtuse oak]

always

[amber delta]

break her lute

[tacit geode]

"If you complain about havoc again I'll fucking kill you myself"

[amber delta]

then break her spine

[obtuse oak]

NDA blocking the release of the devblogs? no, that's not how that works

[sage dragon]

if you say so

[amber delta]

Alfira is a daemonspawn anyway

[stuck wasp]

FS wanted to reveal the identity of the 2 missing Primarch, GW said no

[obtuse oak]

unless you mean that the blog is being blocked by other stakeholders

which is definitely possible

[sage dragon]

would totaly make sense

[amber delta]

stakeholder is such an evil sounding word

[stuck wasp]

They're evil, so it fit

[agile leaf]

Ogryn deserves a beeg stub gun pistol

[amber delta]

be like gaben never go public

[inner nimbus]

something something premium game something

[sage dragon]

And now for something Slightly different: are there any other class types that you guys think we could add besides Admech and Beastman?

[tacit geode]

"They're both women"

[tacit geode]

Beatmen

[inner nimbus]

on a somewhat related topic, I've been streaming Borderlands 4 with my friend group, we're all playing a different character

[amber delta]

Beatmen

[inner nimbus]

and whenever we get a bug or something

we just go 'premium game'

[obtuse oak]

everything corpo related is evil

[inner nimbus]

including corpospeak

fuck you, I'm not gonna 'circle back around' on shit

[sage dragon]

oh yeah no need to convince me of that, played plenty of cyberpunk 2077

[somber stream]

Bruh

[little marten]

I am unfortunately already aware of what will transpire

[obtuse oak]

i've got a corporate job with jira tickets and akeneo workflows and KPIs and data enrichment and the lingo drives me insane lol

[amber delta]

let's circle back on touching base with our long term penetration strategy

[inner nimbus]

we'll really have to peel the onion in that regard

[obtuse oak]

fortunately my team has a bunch of grounded personalities but i've seen the reports that our manager has to write

and it's so much bs lol

[arctic escarp]

oh jeez

like I cant even go without a fan without sweating really hard

[inner nimbus]

yeah I am (was?) an oddity in my team cus like

when I write tickets, I am

1. detailed
2. straight to the point

and people usually only choose one of these

you have the detailed ones that are like

'issue is XYZ, after we opened the kimono we realized we had to circle back on this issue at a later time after engaging someone with a higher core compotency to provide a customer-facing resolution'

and then the others that are like

[dapper trench]

type shit

[inner nimbus]

'issue is XYZ, went on site, saw it. we have no troubleshooting for this, escalating to ABC team'

[obtuse oak]

i process b2b supplier price changes and the accompanying emails they send are sometimes just word vomit to the point of incomprehensibility like this

[agile leaf]

You know shit is serious when ABC team has to be deployed

[inner nimbus]

my tickets are literally me going over every step that I did

because once, some asshole customer decided to raise hell because I forgot to mention I did one step

which was

closing a program

[agile leaf]

Customer support sounds like hell on earth

[inner nimbus]

I liked it

I did high-level tech support

it engaged me because I had to sort of be like

'okay well this is the expected behavior, why is it not working'

[agile leaf]

Tech support is better because you don't face those people

[obtuse oak]

Effective November 1, 2025, a new price list will be introduced, incorporating adjustments for various product lines. We continue to work with customers to reduce production costs in their operations by applying new product technologies to improve productivity.

this one was particularly egregious

[inner nimbus]

sort of dive into the logs, read what the app is thinking/doing, if it's getting stuck, where it's getting stuck

like that's the part of customer support I like

being given a challenge or puzzle that I have to sit down and solve

[obtuse oak]

customer support or 1st line tech support is way worse than high level for sure

[inner nimbus]

I say 'liked' and 'was' because then I got demoted to a different team and it's all just grunt work

yep and I basically got transferred to that

[obtuse oak]

rip

[inner nimbus]

my job title change says it all

I used to be a software specialist

now I'm a service desk rep

[agile leaf]

Damn

[obtuse oak]

that's brutal

i started out in the customer support world and worked my way up to master data management and i am neverr going back bruh

[amber delta]

that's okay you are still a warden to us

[inner nimbus]

I am not gonna lie, before I broke my arm

back around October

I was on paid leave and I was straight up gonna quit as soon as I came back

in a way me breaking my arm was a silver lining

a year away from work let me take a much needed retrospective into my life, and give me time to proc ess just how thoroughly I got fucked

my theory? they did this in hopes I'd quit (cus I was the most paid agent in my team at the time)

and y'know, always gotta streamline the company

funnily enough this lead to a really funny situation

there's a guy in our company, let's call him Benjamin

Benjamin is a very important person, because he essentially handles the most complicated problems for one of our biggest customers in India

[low wharf]

Benjamin

[inner nimbus]

great guy, knows his shit, very fun to work with

anyways when the reorganization hit and I got transferred, because y'know, he's not from the US

and cus he'd work on maybe 40 tickets a month

they fired him

and as soon as they did, two things happened

1. no one knew how to do what he did, meaning all the tickets he was supposed to be working on were left in various stages of not being done
2. no one knew who has to do what he did, causing a two week pause in those issues (again, some of the most complicated and usually major issues) from being resolved
3. this entire customer franchize immediately threatened to cancel their contract with the company and follow Benjamin wherever he went

[amber delta]

Ben

corpos doing "reorganisations" and fucking everyone over in the process should be studied

unfortunately they are too big to fail and because such fuck ups don't make them fail they don't learn from their mistakes

[obtuse oak]

Based based based based

Benjamin, that is.

[inner nimbus]

I am a bit ashamed I had to engage a therapist to sort of make the realization as to how to sort of come to terms with it

[obtuse oak]

Companies failing to recognize the value of specific employees and treating them all like expendable pieces of their Excel spreadsheets is not based

[inner nimbus]

cus when I got hit with the reorganization and essentially given 10x the work for the same money and no chance of an increase/promotion (something that was ironically a thing I discussed with my previous teamlead)

I really wanted to put the hurt on my company

to sort of show them, doing this shit ain't right

but in truth, there isn't much I can do

at least not to them

[round mica]

alright is the NDA up yet can I ask questions

[inner nimbus]

uhh they give sienna a glock

[tacit geode]

Not yet no in about 6 hours

[inner nimbus]

the only thing I can do is choose what's right for me

[tacit geode]

I relate to this a lot but I could actually fuck them over if I wanted

[inner nimbus]

in truth there were about 4 pillars that kept me in my job for the 5 years that it has

[tacit geode]

But having a job is good right now

[inner nimbus]

1. the work from home
2. the people I worked with
3. the nature of the job
4. the pay

[obtuse oak]

Yeah the economy is slowing down. Better hold onto your jobs for now

[inner nimbus]

they went from work from home for 4 years, to talks and tests of doing it hybrid, to immediately work from office
I got transferred to a different team that lives in a different country (yet I'm still expected to go to office???)
the nature of the job changed as I went from handling more difficult tasks to handling priority tasks and doing gruntwork

the pay remains the same but, y'know, that's not smth that keeps someone loyal to anything

and in truth, I did the math, if I got somewhere around 500-600 euros from, literally any other revenue source, I could quit my job and live quite comfortably here

[obtuse oak]

Your coworkers aren't even in the same country, let alone the same office building, and you need to come in anyway? That's so much bs

[inner nimbus]

also my bosses kept calling people from my teams 'lazy'

as I said a few days ago, my level of support really only came down to this suite of programs for point of sale stuff

the nature of my job was, sometimes, you'd come into work and do nothing for 8 hours, sometimes you'd come in and immediately have a 6 hour long call as soon as you log in

meanwhile this team, gets 300-400 calls a day on average

and cus we got less calls and less emails, we were seen that way by the management who really dismissed everyone who worked here 'until they proved themselves'

in fact that was their justification, cus a lot of people started quitting from this team that were transferred to it, they justified it to HR as 'oh the people who quit were lazy and didn't want to work at all' when like the truth is, a lot of people got screwed out of promotions/bonuses/personal projects/etc.

but yeah that's where I'll end my rant lmao

I'm hoping in one or two years my streaming/YouTube thing I'm trying to do here takes off

in a way that's smth I'd wanted to do for a long time but neglected cus 'ohh I have a job, I don't have tiiime for it'
after everything that happened though, my job isn't as much of a priority anymore

[tacit geode]

In my company we make something called a wireless interface PCB for our product (its mot wireless as in WiFi it just doesn't have wires in it). Originally I was taught how to design and create one by the previous PCB designer called Richard, this was to "reduce bottleneck" as the creation of one takes about 3-4 weeks. He taught me then immediately quit. He had 20 years of PCB designer experience. I had 5 months. (Plus no formal education on electrical engineering)

Now I am the only one who can design one and they don't appear to be hiring someone else.

So what if I just never came back. I think about this concept often.

[little marten]

Based 🙏

[tacit geode]

I hope so too!

Better than that shit evidently

[little marten]

I’m just grinding this job out until I get the FatShark CEO role

[inner nimbus]

you would be told to train your replacement I imagine

[fierce cave]

[tacit geode]

If they could find one. They were looking for a PCB designer for like 5 months then gave up and had me do it

[little marten]

🤫

[tacit geode]

They're too stingy with pay

[inner nimbus]

sounds to me like you have a cudgel with which you can beat them over with

and it's something I would do if you're particularly disgruntled with your work

[coarse tree]

Do it.

[inner nimbus]

as in

[fierce cave]

Hello grogu

[inner nimbus]

'pay me more money for my job' or give you better hours/time or you'll just not show up

[fierce cave]

[little marten]

If you have the sauce recipe you control the kitchen friend

[fierce cave]

Yeah

[inner nimbus]

you have to understand

[fierce cave]

Special sauce

[inner nimbus]

corporations do not deserve your loyalty

at the end of the day, no matter what your position, unless if you're on the top, you're just helping make someone else richer

and even then, even if you're the CEO, someone still gets richer off of anything you do

work is you giving up your time and skills for money to enjoy life, work is not a component of life itself

[coarse tree]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-smile-joker-heath-ledger-the-dark-knight-gif-16519453

[obtuse oak]

ngl, that's an extremely long shot.

[inner nimbus]

it is, but it's something to look forward to and strive for imo

[obtuse oak]

i hope you're leveraging this to maximum effect

[inner nimbus]

thing about life is, so long as you're moving up or down, you're alive

[potent bramble]

For penances that say private game only, how am I supposed to do them solo ?

[obtuse oak]

can't

[little marten]

I wish you all the best you certainly have the knowledge

[inner nimbus]

but my life has become stagnant

[potent bramble]

Bruh what 😭

[fierce cave]

Mainly cause the upgrades make the CD less and it's just useful

[inner nimbus]

I've not necessarily gone up or down all that much, and it's clear to me that just focusing on this job will not provide me this, nor will it provide any other satisfaction

[fierce cave]

You need Freinds

Impossible for you

[potent bramble]

gg

[fierce cave]

[obtuse oak]

i didn't make the rules. you need someone else in your party to start a private match.

[fierce cave]

Fix it hank

Hank the repair guy

[potent bramble]

Yeah fix it please and thanks

[fierce cave]

That pfp

[somber stream]

Femboy

[fierce cave]

Aw man

[somber stream]

Pattern recognition at play

[potent bramble]

yeah I'm for sure a femboy

[cold quiver]

So update is put tommorow i guess we aren’t getting those “more details coming soon!”

[potent bramble]

[cold quiver]

Wild even by fatshark standards

[fierce cave]

Woman? 👉👈

[obtuse oak]

Embargo lifts in 6h, you'll get details then

[green shoal]

I think in 6 hours from now, YouTubers are allowed to start talking about what's in the update.. I think

[obtuse oak]

From content creators if not from FS themselves

But yeah conspicuous absence of dev blogs

[little marten]

6 hours

[cold quiver]

That’s hella late ngl

[little marten]

How will we cope

[potent bramble]

Who knows

[obtuse oak]

Standard for FS

[cold quiver]

See now I’m split

[obtuse oak]

Media embargo is always 1d before

[fierce cave]

[crystal junco]

So based on the fact that "Patch 12 Into the Maelstrom" back in August 2023 was (IMO) the single most important update DT every had. (The one that added Auric Mission board, Maelstrom missions, Quickplay bonus, server selection, Accountwide currency, selecting rather than rerolling perk - remember that? and less bad crafting locks on weapons and curios).

And we only got a Dev Blog (or any hint it was coming) 5 days before it was actually released

By Pure Reason this means tomorrow's update will be 5 times more awesome.

[little marten]

My ADHD ripens like a bittersweet fruit. The tree of attention blooms in frenzied chaos. Dopamine surges like a firestorm. The blog.. I must.. now..

[cold quiver]

Yeah but they do send out devblogs at least

That’s the one thing they have been consistent about until now