gameplay-help

[little coyote]

High Voltage + Skull Crusher my beloved

Personally it doesn't improve on my own damage out put that much* but it works wonders with a team focusing on the same enemy

caps and lieutenants gone in a single shield rotation

[hard plume]

Running stam is overkill in all but the most extreme cases imo (giant crusher/mauler trains, rinda tunneling you for a million years, failed ritual)

But it might have saved me last game...

imo just KD by itself is enough for reviving people or kiting rager packs/getting out of big hordes

[simple wind]

Is the boom event still on

[pastel forge]

Yes

4 more days until it ends iirc

[simple wind]

Thank yous

[keen flume]

4 days until update teasers

https://tenor.com/view/cope-cat-petting-squishing-gif-20667782

[raw smelt]

is there anywhere i can see attack chains for tactical axe ?

[vocal nacelle]

inspect weapon

[raw smelt]

inspect does not show chain links

this is what i mean, but its only for Ogryn weapons from The Ogrynomicon

[vocal nacelle]

nope doesnt have it

[keen oracle]

Paths vet guide (pinned in vet chat) will have combos listed but no links like the nomicon

[raw smelt]

will look, ty

[craggy minnow]

Yeah figuring out linking can be hard, there's a mod that shows you what attack you're getting if you want to lab them out yourself but i don't remember if it tells you about secret moves

Like paul slide attack or relic blade joust

[final drift]

What even is rending 👀 they need a key word page lol

[limber thicket]

armor piercing

[final drift]

🫡

Ty

[keen flume]

Increase damage against armor

[warped basin]

can faulty synchronizator positions on Gloriana be predicted?

[keen flume]

They are all random each session

Sometimes it takes less or more time

[warped basin]

wonderful, so I have to go one by one until it hits a faulty one AND hold it while there's a 50% chance my teammates completely ignore the objective

idk why people completely forget what's supposed to be done in that part of the mission

[keen flume]

The synchronizers session gets crazy at times

The spawns feel endless

[clear plume]

its 1 fault in each row (back, middle, front)

[void forge]

There is always one per row, just follow them as they go along and fix it as it happens

If you fix it fast enough you don't have to reset the sequence

Which makes it way faster

[warped basin]

idk what's going on with matchmaking, lately I can't win even heresy diff because it's full of <30 players who don't have a full build, never did the mission or both

pre-Arbites I was able to do diff 4 comfortably and was just learning damnation, now it seems heresy is full of griefers

[smoky ember]

pins have a guide that explain a lot of it

[final drift]

🫡🫡

[red ginkgo]

New players from the steam sale learning the game, probably

[undone yew]

Hey i basically just downloaded the game and i would like some tips on what to focus/learn early on thanks

[clear plume]

1: play to have fun, don't rush to finish achievements, don't get forced to run meta, don't worry about what teammates will say. 2: the game doesn't start until level 30 when you have all your talent points and should be close to maxing out a weapon. 3: save all your materials, after beating a mission you will be given a random weapon, use these until max level (30)

Bad spacing sorry

4: if you haven't played a tide game/l4d before keep in mind the sound queues. Audio and visuals are the bread and butter of surviving

There are backstab sounds when an enemy is attacking from behind, there are sound alerts when a dangerous enemy spawns (specialists, which are often disablers)

Dodging is key to surviving

I would recommend starting on veteran or zealot to learn the fundamentals

Since currently the other classes are so strong they ruin your game sense and knowledge (arby and ogryn) meanwhile psyker is very squishy and a high skill floor, best to learn the basics then level psyker

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bbmCeGcFCgF809XozTtxCbRL2lh19RCfo2OaVVMcdjA/edit?tab=t.0

I have some random information mostly about zealot in my guide

[undone yew]

Those happened to be the 2 classes i was eyeing

[clear plume]

Enemy info, weapon setup, and misc zealot skills

[undone yew]

Leaning towards zealot tho

[clear plume]

Also

There are no "class roles"

[undone yew]

Stuff like dps support etc?

[clear plume]

All classes can do everything, tank/snipe/support

All

Yup

They just have different tools to do so

[undone yew]

I wanna ask about the spawning sound cue is it the same for each type of special enemy or does it vary?

[clear plume]

Each special has their own sound queues and voicelines

Trapper will giggle and you hear a little zap of her electric net

Flamer's tank will click

Mutant will roar

Dog will bark

Sniper has a radio crackle

(and a giant red laser)

Etc.

[undone yew]

Alr thanks alot

[vocal nacelle]

learn to dodge, shove, slide, sprint slide, dodge slide

[keen flume]

Sprint sliding does count as dodging enemy shots

Sliding is also key for survival against ranged enemies

[undone yew]

When is it a good idea to shove instead of just dodging

[vocal nacelle]

shove if you get surrounded, deflect dog pounce, push away poxburster

[undone yew]

Do they not hit you while sliding?

[vocal nacelle]

dont shoot this guy head (mauler)

[little coyote]

well if you can hit the eye slit them you should

[vocal nacelle]

or this guy crusher (carapace armor)

unless you have weapon like bolter, plasma,helbore or weapon with rending properties

[clear plume]

everywhere on mauler head is carapace

[little coyote]

the eye isn't

I've tested this many times

[undone yew]

Do you just shoot them in the chest instead?

[vocal nacelle]

mauler ? yes

[little coyote]

I'm not sure if it counts as carapace but it does take unarmoured damage to it

[fickle ether]

Are you sure? Ive never noticed or seen anyone else say that

[little coyote]

almost certain, I've tried it with a lasgun and an autogun, it displays as weakspot damage but does a lot more than just the head

[keen flume]

You can see a flash and hear a sound as they about to shoot you so you can sprint then slide to dodge their coming shots

[vocal nacelle]

another important tip is "one does not simply eat an overhead"

[keen flume]

If you time it right as keep practicing you can dodge countless times against packs of gunners

[undone yew]

Does it 1 tap

[vocal nacelle]

depends on the situation and difficulty

[keen flume]

You must need an aimlabs precision for that kinda shit

[undone yew]

Alr thanks ill make sure to try and get this down

[keen flume]

Depends what situation, class and stuff

[vocal nacelle]

dont eat too much bad for brain

[keen flume]

Remember that shoving does cost stamina, so do keep your eyes on it

If you low or zero stamina, shoving won't be possible and if an enemy hits you while blocking you get stunned

[clear plume]

yes it counts as weakspot but the entire head is carapace which most ranged weapons have bad damage against

[keen flume]

Now good luck shooting the one pixel visor through distance and on hordes

[undone yew]

Around how long does it take to regen stam

[clear plume]

depends on class

test it out in the meat grinder, the testing room of darktide

[undone yew]

Alr

[clear plume]

just push the air and see how long it takes

[keen flume]

Depends what class, what talent nodes you choose from the skill tree

And perks

[vocal nacelle]

good luck shooting the visor with arbites dog pouncing

[keen flume]

The dog is doing the work for me

He can chop the maulers eyes how he wants

[little coyote]

I gotta try this agter work because I'm like 99% sure you did more damage to the eye than the rest of the head

[languid jewel]

Yes mauler chest is flak

[fickle ether]

Not what I meant I know that

[smoky ember]

it is

maybe you were just critting ?

[little coyote]

I can't recall but I should know better at least, it being different colour and all

[smoky ember]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/l1M5HR1lKXwdT4uOY?invite=cr-MSxVVEgsMjA0ODY2MDQ3&v=24

[keen arch]

How much does weapon power levels matter? I'm new. What difficulty does it start meaning something.

[smoky ember]

power levels are just a sum of all of the individual stat values, like damage, cleave, mobility, etc.

as for difficulty, id say malice is when it starts to matter a little bit but

[keen arch]

But am I gimping my team going into champion with power level 200 weapons

[smoky ember]

mainly up to heresy and auric/damnation

is when it starts to be a notable factor

[smoky ember]

sry i didnt play much of VT2 is champion malice

[keen arch]

Oh oops. The 3rd

[smoky ember]

yah malice

wait no thats heresy

[smoky ember]

then yeah kind of, unless you're confident with your skill

a very good player can take a shit weapon into heresy without much difficulty

[keen arch]

I made it to the 3rd difficulty on arbiters really easily. But struggling with all other classes lol

[smoky ember]

arbites is extremely overpowered rn

@clear plume did a h40 with arbites

solo*

and its really the (relatively) easiest way to do it

aside from speedrunning

[smoky ember]

so unfortunately arbites is likely kind of carrying you right now

its got absurd stagger, damage, and damage reduction throughout the entire class

id recommend playing zealot to get more familiar with melee on a weaker (but still absolutely workable) class

that way you get pushed into learning the intracacies of darktide's combat

[keen arch]

I'm trying zealot. Idk which weapon combo I like yet

[smoky ember]

what level are you?

more particularly, what weapons do you have unlocked?

[keen arch]

12

[smoky ember]

do you have heavy eviscerator yet?

its my personal favorite weapon in the game

[keen arch]

Yes, using that. Do I rev it a lot or no

[smoky ember]

i can play a match or 2 of DT, if you want to try heresy

[smoky ember]

revving is target dependent

hordes usually no, just do normal attacks

H1, l2, l3, PA

are ur best horde clear attacks

elites below ogryns, usually no as well

as you can kill them as quickly with just normal attacks

however ogryns, bosses, and mutants

you usually want to rev attack

@keen arch

this is a writeup on mk3 evis

i made a while ago

[limber thicket]

it's a broken class, not balanced for regular difficulties

[keen flume]

You soon to realize how Arbites can trivial mission so damn easily

Such busted class right now

Not really the best idea to start the game by going with Arbites first before playing the rejects

[leaden fjord]

Yeaahhhh

Might want 2 let urself down easy

Try Ogryn next

Then Psyker, then pick ur poison between Zeal or Vet

[mental talon]

how does the zealot passive talent Swift Certainty work? states "always counts as dodging while sprinting, even if stamina is depleted" yet it doesn't work? i still get hit

[clear plume]

@mental talon

every class can dodge bullets when sprinting this talent just lets you do it at 0% stam

this angle

[undone yew]

since im on pc are there any mods that are nice to have besides numeric ui?

[red ginkgo]

Chat block is handy

Especially if you go afk every so often

Many more try (mmt) can also be good if you want to be more picky with your missions

[keen flume]

Crit chance, chat block, guaranteed special action, guaranteed ability and quick swap

[vocal nacelle]

more loadout

[keen flume]

Collectible finder
Full auto
Enchanced descriptions
Markers improved all in one

[vocal nacelle]

show timer (for rolling steel)

show ammo crate charge

[keen flume]

That is included in markers improved

[vocal nacelle]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

coloured stim inventory

[keen flume]

Also included in markers

[vernal plaza]

Wheres the GOAT psykh ward

Psych ward*

[red ginkgo]

Motherfuckin creature spawner

[fickle ether]

After awhile I recommend Auto Loot. After 2k hours of game time picking up plasteel and diamantine manually gets annoying

[keen flume]

You don't like to slurp all materials in the hive manually?

[fickle ether]

No i do not 😔

[cold moon]

If you are interested in cosmetics, these 3 mods allow you to do more things than the default actions in the cosmetic shop and character customization. Equip and preview different pieces of clothing (before purchasing), your character automatically equips all clothing from a bundle set, see all released and unreleased cosmetics, bookmark cosmetics to receive an in-game alert when the specified cosmetics are available in Commodore's Vestures rotation.
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/347

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/348

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/346

[cedar dagger]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OcU4iUfHVZhr1nnmIPT3hLKT4G7pY36dBs12J2tcZN4/edit?usp=drivesdk

List of mods I use.

Also the patch for dmf to auto load mods. https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/246

[undone yew]

Thanks yall

[arctic schooner]

anyone know how to remove on screen buttons for abilities/guns?

[potent lance]

The curio has 17% toughness but i was told that 420 is true 17% and 410 is a fraction a bit lower that 17% that rounds to 17 but is a true 16.7 or somthing

so does that mean 430 is 17.3 or somthing?

[vocal nacelle]

No the curio strength doesn't matter if it toughness

Only stamina got affected

[keen arch]

Are all the blessings I unlock applied? Or only the ones on the weapon? What if they are the same?

[fast urchin]

only the 2 weapon blessings on that weapon are active for that weapon

you can change 2 blessings on each weapon from the ones you have unlocked

[keen arch]

Ohhh that changes everything

I thought I had all these op butfs

[fast urchin]

yeah so what you wanna do is unlock the 2 blessings you want first, get them to max tier asap

stick them on that weapon

[pastel forge]

Also if the weapon has a blessing you havent unlocked yet it still applies the effects as normal

[keen arch]

Are perfect block options viable?

How hard is a perfect block essentially is what I'm asking iguess

[zealous dome]

0.3 seconds right before the hit

Perfect Block options exists™

[vocal nacelle]

how good your darksoul perfect parry

[pastel forge]

Is there even an indicator youve done a perfect block instead of a regular one?

[keen arch]

Is there an indication you did it correctly? Or just the buff popping up

[vocal nacelle]

if you use mod there is

[pastel forge]

...

If i had a nickel

For every time this was the answer

[zealous dome]

Yeah sorry I can't say it's viable

But it exists ™

And it's there ™

If it's the Relic Blade and Shock Maul blessings, they have better blessings

If it's the Ogryn Arby's Talent, both classes can just stagger

So like

Also

If you use adamant will with shield it's pretty much redundant

Shield can block all attacks already

At the cost of stamina of course

[keen arch]

Is there a recommended controller setup I should be using besides default?

[pastel forge]

variant 1

no accidental jumps when trying to dodge

[main lily]

It took me an embarrassingly large amount of deaths on PC before I rebound that

[lavish oracle]

Kinda just started the game and playing missions but idk anything aside from that

[clear plume]

#gameplay-help message

Read here and down

[keen flume]

Mods pin the comment

[clear plume]

I could format it better if I really wanted to make a newbie intro

[keen arch]

I just hit level 28 on zealot and unlocked damnation. When should I jump up to that difficulty and what is the endgame ?

[rustic bough]

imo whenever you feel comfortable egoing up to that difficulty if not keep doing w/e difficulty you look doing until you lvl up the gear that u like to use and the 'end game' stuff is the havoc stuff

[keen flume]

When you are comfortable with the enemy density, learn whats the enemy priority during intense matches

And how much you can react

Theres additional Auric and Havoc too

[keen arch]

How do I get a 'perfect' weapon?

[keen flume]

Auric is the same as damnation from enemies stats but further more enemy density so more spam of specials

[keen flume]

You can get from buying grey weapons at Brunt armory

[limber thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/casino-oldpeople-oldpeopleonslots-slots-vegas-gif-27586086

[keen flume]

You gonna need quite an amount of dockets though

[keen arch]

Ah

[keen flume]

If you lucky

It is pretty much gamble but not too tedious

Though I would say that the real end game is how you can master the game mechanics, their classes and try all sorts of builds

[craggy minnow]

Endgame weapons used to be a huge gambling effort and it sucked now you need like 100k-200k dockets and some crafting materials and its basically guaranteed

[strange thunder]

worthwhile going back to weapons once you're able to run any blessing on them and can max them fully

[craggy minnow]

Ol two locks hadron taking your 80/80/80/80/60 grey and putting 3 useless things on it

[keen flume]

far more than 200k

[strange thunder]

stuff like staves on psyker can be p rough without good stats

[craggy minnow]

Skill issue (brunt likes me better)

I haven't had to do a million docket craft since the patch thank god

I probably burnt 5 million on power swords and never even saw pc4

[vocal nacelle]

200k is cheap better than the old system

need 1 million

[smoky ember]

if ur lucky

i once spent like 2 million to get a god rolled

i dont even remember

it mightve been an axe

taxe i think

[flint lotus]

Is there a in depth breakdown of mortis trials mechanics? It seems that it can spawn different kinds of waves, but is there a way to manipulate it?

[vocal nacelle]

i dont think there's any guide about that

[vernal plaza]

Gacha

[cedar dagger]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/100?tab=files
Get this mod. Set it to purchase 5 weapons at a time. Set it up like this (see screenshot)

Then use it to buy weapons 5 at a time from brunt's.

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/368?tab=files

Use dunpstat finder to easily sort through the weapons you bought for red colored ones. They are generally going to conform to the normally accepted dump stats. There are some outliers like ripper and plasma, but everything else should be good.

[warped basin]

what's the thought process with autopistol builds? blessings/talents/class?
never used the weapon but want to give it a try, only seen it in havoc videos where it's been said that it's still good even after being nerfed twice

[vocal nacelle]

its a decent mobile ranged weapon with quick reload time, consume lot of ammo tho

[polar forum]

it got buffed again

it's not op, but it's not bad either

it's mostly a mobility stick and close quarters specialist deleter

kills bosses reasonably quickly as well

this is the standard

though for memes i'll also sometimes swap maniac for unyielding and PF for calvacade

for boss/ogryn deletion

gun works well on all classes

[keen flume]

Now use on arbites with rending nodes and it will shred crushers

[warped basin]

I got a lasgun crit vet build to melt crushers, trying autopistol on zealot atm, still need to figure out a melee weapon for support/tank zealot

chainsword is meh, hammer is fun but slow, could always play the boring meta dueling sword

[vocal nacelle]

Hand breaking tac axe

[polar forum]

relic blade and caxe are also good options

[zealous dome]

Support/Tank zealot?

Chainsword

Taxe

Knife

Dueling Sword

What else has shred/riposte

dclaw

Eviscerator

Combat Axe has shred but you don't use shred on those

Hsword has Chained Deathblow but you don't use that

[rigid wasp]

Zealot can be tank or support? All i see is zealot running 1st like sonic,n dies 2 rooms Infront of everyone

[hallow copper]

anyone wanna help me get the shocking stuff penance for zealot?

[keen obsidian]

Sorry was me

[keen obsidian]

If you’re looking for chours spam just do his regular crit build

Using a crit weapon

[heady pulsar]

zealot with knife
loner aura
stealth
name written in cyrillic
yep
it's gaming time

[leaden fjord]

Support zealot is a meme

Support your team by drawing aggro and killing things

But ur not a tank either

Cuz ur squishy

Melee glass cannon unless you take certain build defining talents

Enduring Faith, TWBS, Stalwart

Try the HS 9

Take deathblow and headtaker as blessings

Flak and maniacs as perks

Dump defences

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d34db3c-4ba5-4ce4-9df1-956e154251eb/thing-that-works-for-some-gloopin-reason

My build w hs 9

All i use on zeal now

[gusty whale]

having a hard time believing hsword feels good

like what do in case of crusher or boss

[clear plume]

hit it in the head

with special attack

[zealous dome]

https://tenor.com/view/reload-cartoon-revolver-gif-27696877

Actually Zarona revolver ain't that much against monstrosities

But Agripina hoo boy

https://tenor.com/view/on-fire-cowboy-shooting-gun-gif-15317612

[shy stone]

It's so fun to bring into Monstreous missions! My favorite thing at the moment, I love when the newer players who have likely never seen an Agripina Revolver before realize what I'm using to delete the bosses

I had someone ask me "How do you get your Revolver to shoot so fast"

[frank dust]

Hi. So weird thing started happening. Recently I've started jumping "involuntary" way more when dodging. Did testing a bit and it seems like around every fifth consecutive dodge ends up jumping with the same inputs. Anyone experienced this before? (maybe my brain's short circuiting at this point)

[stoic locust]

What weapon are you using, dodges slow down after you use all effective dodges so if you just spam you’ll mistime a non effective dodge and jump

You’re probably using a 4 dodge like relic or FGS is my guess

[frank dust]

Yeah Im using relic sword on zealot. But the same thing happens with vet now with chainsaw sword

[stoic locust]

There’s 2 real solutions to jumping instead of dodging which are
Bind jump and dodge to 2 different keys
Just get better at dodge control

[frank dust]

I feel like I didn't have this problem before or at least I somehow managed to not notice

[keen flume]

There few mods that also prevent accidental jumps when dodging if you are using bind

[frank dust]

So during this "non effective dodge" period the dodge simply doesnt work and trying to do it results in awkard jump? (which in result can launch you in to space in certain cenarious)

[keen flume]

Jumping in this game is very rare or really not too used besides vaulting

[keen flume]

You lose distance with the dodged

[stoic locust]

No
All weapons have a number of “effective” dodges, which is described in the Mobility or Defences stat
After you use all of these your distance for each dodge begins to depreciate with every successive dodge without a reset (x time without dodging)

Don’t ask me the reset time I don’t remember

[frank dust]

Does the timing also change, not just the distance? Cuz double spacing can make you jump mid dodge

[keen flume]

You gotta control your dodges when pressing the binds

[stoic locust]

Dodge control in general is a valuable skill

[keen flume]

Spamming dodges will result in be punished hard and accidental jumps

[stoic locust]

Not wasting them unnecessarily saves a lot of pain

[keen flume]

Be familiar with the dodges and their distances with the weapons you use

[stoic locust]

Or don’t and just learn to spot dodge everything with your -4/4

[keen flume]

Would make a point if you wanna use mods that count the amount of dodges but not everyone on pc or not wishing to use mods

You might get the feeling whenever you dodges are effective or not with the distances from the more you play

[stoic locust]

Numeric UI is basically mandatory

I love knowing basic info

[keen flume]

Pretty sure VT2 also has it

Including dodge counts

[limber thicket]

unbind jump from dodge button

jump is not really that useful in dt

[stoic locust]

Jump is basically the mantle bind but it lets you skip like 2 seconds of waiting on the end event of the radio dish hourglass mission

[limber thicket]

also, setting crouch to "hold" instead of "toggle" is huge

another useless action that exists only to let you slide

[frank dust]

i think i contracted this disease in upper havoc levels with all the fast pace going on. Now I find myself jumping while performing a single dodge..

I don't know how im gonna adapt to control changes after 200h+ gameplay

[clear plume]

Unbind jump

Wait a day and the muscle memory will be gone

Jump is only used for vaulting/kiting which is rare for people to be doing

[lime idol]

There is a cooldown to dodge and it’s different between classes

It’s around 0.25s

Generally tho it’s a good idea to bind dodge and jump on separate keybinds

[strange thunder]

I never gave heavy sword a real try and this was a real fun build, ty

[rocky crow]

What is max stacks for bleed and brittleness?

[zealous dome]

Brittleness generally speaking is 16 stacks

40% brittleness

[rocky crow]

Its same for both weapon blessing and talent nodes and they dont stack?

[zealous dome]

They all stack to 40%
The exception being on the Penetrating Flames blessing and Veterans Exploit Weakness talents, they both can add another 20% brittleness and under the right circumstances get up to 80% brittleness

PenFlames max at 20%

Exploit Weakness max at 20%

Every other "generic Brittleness" max at 40%

[gusty whale]

toggle crouch is integral to one specific vet penance

[vast shore]

looking for someone who can solo 35-40 for a documentry

video essay

[red ginkgo]

Does stealth count?

[vocal nacelle]

thats a very specific request

and need certain map, modifier + luck

[vast shore]

it does indeed

[vernal plaza]

Dont forget moebian 21 and no ammo penalty

[red ginkgo]

https://youtu.be/019ZqBiXSCg

Hew is my appwication. Plz DM for any business inquiries, tank u

Though, to be real for a sec, should probably wait for other, way better players than me who can actually solo havoc 40 without cheese to respond to your post =-='

[vocal nacelle]

smh stealthlot

[red ginkgo]

Teehee

[limber thicket]

why the fuck is the map empty

[red ginkgo]

Darktide spawns are borked

It just works

[vocal nacelle]

spawn cap

[lavish oracle]

Guys imma need someone to explain a whole lotta stuff

Like whats finesse strength dmg and theres a ton more stats that i dont know

Like whats cleave

Only thing ik rn is the obvious like crit toughness and hp

😭

Pm me please also looking for people to play with

[void forge]

Finesse can generally refer to two things. It can be the finesse stat on a weapon, which influences various properties like attack speed and weakspot/Crit modifiers. It can also just generally refer to the overall Crit/weakspot modifiers on a weapon

Strength is like a combined stat which influences cleave, stagger and damage

Cleave is what it sounds like, it combined with hit mass of enemies governs how many enemies an attack can hit

Different attacks in a string can have different cleave properties which is why some weapons will have different attack patterns for single target and groups of enemies

[lavish oracle]

Ahhh oke

Thank you so much

Ok next question

What refers to the dmg on weapons?

Is it the big number next to weapons? Or the percentage

And how do the percentages work?

And whats the max? Is it always 80? Thats all ive seen

And how do ik the difference between carapace armoured and flak armoured?

[keen oracle]

Both but also neither.

Darktide has a complicated damage system with differing armour values, finesse multipliers etc

80 is the max, yes

Armour types vary depending on the different enemies and the part of the enemy you hit. Attack something in the psychanium and it will tell you the armour type

[lavish oracle]

Ahhh ok thanks very much

Helps alot

[void forge]

Yes like he said you can attack enemies in the psyk to see armor types

For a full breakdown of enemies though, I prefer the games lantern website

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/enemies

DoT effects will use the torso armor of the enemy btw

You can also check your weapon's base damage against armor types by viewing the weapon attack breakdown when inspecting the weapon

This won't show you damage bonuses from talents and blessings though

[clear plume]

sounds interesting

yeah I've done a solo

without stealth and not syorex

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oHDuxY-yyA

[zealous dome]

What is that title 😭

[fickle ether]

Peak

[pastel forge]

"Arbitrator Giving Sick People Free Aquilas"

[meager loom]

What should you do when you get 3 or 4 bosses spawned on you? I always feel like I only rise in rank when I'm lucky enough to only have to deal with 1 or 2 at a time.

[clear plume]

assest win condition

asses enemy priority

use map geometry to isolate the boss you want dead 1st

[meager loom]

What if it's a narrow hallway like post elevator hab dreyko or magistrati oubliette?

[clear plume]

be ready to burst boss dps

either with stims/teamwork/or boss damage builds

knowing triggers also help to stop boss stacking

every map boss trigger outside havoc can only spawn 1 boss at a time

so when a boss spawns dont go forwards

[strange thunder]

retreating is like key for any high havoc run

outside of maelstrom that's really the only time you'll get multiple boss spawns

[vocal nacelle]

Be ogryn and hold 3 boss at the same time

If it's twin + monster, kill rinda in 15s

[keen flume]

Taunt Go again is the king for multiple bosses in havoc

[vernal plaza]

Twins + red purple captain + bonbon

Wait i think it was orange purple?

[clear plume]

thank god it wasnt dn

[vocal nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/whatever-man-just-keep-bringing-gif-27448431

[restive tartan]

Dn=deeznuts?

[modest marten]

Not sure if this is the right channel but i havent gotten any response in the genral channel but i do have a question.

Is it somehow possible to extract or export wepon models to use them in software like slicer?

[vocal nacelle]

try this

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/2918680531

[modest marten]

I will try that later. Thanks a lot!

[fierce sandal]

The darktide modding server might have some help there as well, if you run into issues. Think I saw something like that in one of the pins

[lime idol]

Identify which boss causes most pressure to team and get rid of them first

Most bosses don’t last long to a team’s coordinated strikes especially if skullcrusher is in play

This target priority can change depending on the specific area’s terrain (ex: if the area can get players ledged easily)

Ogryn with taunt damage bonus + skullcrusher is the best force multiplier vs bosses

[meager loom]

I play VoC plasma vet with Focus Target. It helps the team melt bosses and I'm confident in my aim, but I don't feel comfortable playing Ogryn. They feel too weighty and I don't like how imprecise their weapons are.

[lime idol]

Do u shoot the boss with plasma or melee them

[meager loom]

Prefer to melee bosses, but I shoot when they're attacking.

[lime idol]

Better to just melee them outside of extremely niche situations tbh

There’s only 1 case where shooting boss with plasma is worth imo

[meager loom]

Can't hit them if they're doing a combo, may as well not waste the time.

[lime idol]

Weakspot hit can stagger twins if their void shields are down

Otherwise it’s not enough damage to justify the ammo cost usually

I’m assuming ur talking about havoc here?

[meager loom]

Ye

[keen flume]

You talking of twins in particular?

[meager loom]

Any boss during their 3 hits

[vocal nacelle]

ogryn ranged weapon is pretty accurate (for an ogryn)

[limber thicket]

GG, Rumbler, Heavy Stubber, Rock

practically sniper rifles all

[keen flume]

Or better yet melee them all

Rock is great for boss stagger, greatly useful for havoc

[meager loom]

But I'm mostly talking about a burgle, twins, and ritual moshpit.

I lost in Magistrati Oubliette after the elevator that takes you to the prison area. Ritual in the switch room, burgle and twin spawn in front.

[keen flume]

Unfortunate spawns

Can still be dealt but will require lot of team coordination and fast time to kill

[red wyvern]

Does high voltage blessing on shock maul only apply when you use the special attack on someone and then hit them or does it work passively on all enemies you hit?

[clear plume]

To my knowledge its only on enemies with the shock debuff which is from the special move

arby shock maul on the other hand applies that debuff with normal attacks

let me verify real quick

@lime idol does the normal shock maul apply shock on any move besides special?

[lime idol]

Light, heavy and push atk

If successful stagger and the hit zone struck has >0.6 ADM

[clear plume]

Are you saying for high voltage blessing on shock maul it works on all attacks? I might be misreading

[red wyvern]

Ok looks like it does work up it's way when you start hitting them

Still seems kinda meh compared to other blessings

Yeah the damage does not seem in any way constant or reliable

You need to work your way up first which takes bit of time

Easier to just get stagger bonuses

[clear plume]

wait till you see skullcrusher

+80% damage from any source

[red wyvern]

It sounds like a good perk for when you use it like a strikedown weapon but I use it as crowd clearing stick

[zealous dome]

Yeah so you apply Skrusher to all targets hit

[fickle ether]

Works as a debuff so your team can benefit from it aswell

[limber thicket]

you just need to stagger the enemy

[red wyvern]

LOL

sorry your name threw me off so much it's peak

[limber thicket]

💀

[red wyvern]

it's been a while since i've seen anything gachi

billy ❤️

[limber thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/gachimuchi-billy-herrington-gachi-muscles-gif-16537151

[tiny hemlock]

random thought. why does the powered up crusher not give yellow numbers on weakspot hits, only double crosshair

[clear plume]

because its an aoe it might hit the body 1st before weakspot

but thats just what I think might be happening

could be a visual bug

[tiny hemlock]

sounds good thanks

[crimson nacelle]

so im trying to clear havoc 40 but no one will let me into their havoc 40 party because i havent cleared havoc 40

how do i not get catch 22'd

[clear plume]

Host your own and slowely climb

or ask for a team that is willing to let you join in this server using the LFG channels

[crimson nacelle]

i suppose i will slowly climb

[strange thunder]

if you're not too low in clearance you can sometimes get an invite

but most just don't want to risk it

[main lily]

when you see + numbers at the end of a Havoc description what do they mean?

[clear plume]

how many modifiers if you mean looking in Party Finder

[main lily]

ahh. I am looking in the party finder. Modifiers as in havoc modifiers or the filter keyword kind? because I'm seeing +6 on a 20, and +4 on a 38. You'd think there would be more modifiers on the higher one

[mystic cosmos]

idk if this is the right ch but anyone willing to help a stranger with shocking with stuff achievement? maybe frenzied killer as well?

[little coyote]

you can try the LFG channels, those should help you out

[mystic cosmos]

got it

[lime idol]

The activated attack has 2 hit instances
The melee attack which can weakspot hit and gains weakspot related bonuses
And the explosive blast which cannot

[tiny hemlock]

does that change the way the weapon is played "optimally"? trying to make a zealot build for it. torn between inexorable or piety though, don't know how it would handle crits

[zealous dome]

It has deceptively good finesse scaling

[lime idol]

It greatly benefits from crits with its single target combo

[tiny hemlock]

sounds great, i love piety anyways

so...

the activation

how and when is it used?

and due to what i just got told, is it worse damage than a heavy overhead?

[lime idol]

Crushe, bulwark, mixed horde

[lime idol]

Best damage is push atk

[tiny hemlock]

interesting

[lime idol]

The heavy overhead is quite deceptive

[tiny hemlock]

okay thanks, will work with it

i'm doing 60/60 on all my classes so i need something to keep me going

this will take me 2 eternities

loner and shroudfield

bleghhhh

[zealous dome]

A brutal momentum weapon is recommended for that Behind the lines one

[tiny hemlock]

thanks, i'll see to it

i actually just did martyr one

i took 2 wound curious and reached 6 wounds

other one was toughness

is 3 wounds better?

[zealous dome]

Yes and no

You cant reach 7 stacks at higher difficulties

[tiny hemlock]

nevermind lol

seems i hit the spot without knowing

i usually run aurics, damnation if i'm mastering my crusher like now so

[tiny hemlock]

thanks!

[smoky ember]

yah ofc, though for clarification, the backstab area is about 120 degrees behind an enemy, not 180, i was wrong when i posted that

[undone yew]

just unlocked damnation and im wondering when to move to it

[vocal nacelle]

if you didnt die in heresy shock troop

[polar forum]

soon than you think tbh

a lot of people hold themselves back in heresy for too long

[undone yew]

yea i made it thru fine

decently annoying match cuz my teammates kept spreading out and dying

[vocal nacelle]

then it should be fine, damnation also give better plasteel drop

[undone yew]

alr thanks

[smoky ember]

many such cases

[undone yew]

had to clutch up for the first time in my life

also yea the jump from heresy to damnation isnt as big as the one from malice to heresy

[ocean dagger]

what is your current clearance?

from my experience people with 35+ are regularly accepted into 40 lobbies

[fierce sandal]

is it possible to get a 17 toughness from melk's random defensive curios?

[smoky ember]

yes

17% toughness, 21% health, and 3 stamina

are the 3 maximums

[fierce sandal]

Alright cool. Never gotten a max curio from his random ones before and I'm assuming I'm capped on the currency, unless by some strange miracle I landed on 50k exactly lol. Time to spend

[wheat night]

I'll add that +3 stamina are only actually giving +3 if they are level 410 and above

[fierce sandal]

i have a +3 on 400 🤔

[limber thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/star-trek-deep-space-9-it's-a-fake-fake-gif-18209291631316754989

[fierce sandal]

WAIT.....really??

i ddidn't actually check the stamina bar, but i can't tell if you're just having fun or it's really not +3 lol

[polar forum]

Yeah it’s a fake

[wheat night]

It's an old glitch

Under 410 +3 stamina curios are only giving +2 in reality

[fierce sandal]

welp...at least I learned that now rather than never heh

[wheat night]

Fatshark still hasn't fixed this in (insert however long the game has been released)

[fierce sandal]

man, this whole time I assumed the red weapons at home mod just needed an update

[polar forum]

small indie developer plz understand

[smoky ember]

im pretty sure that its bugged too so that in the psykanium, it adds 3

but in a match, it adds 2

small indie studio,,

[shadow skiff]

Pretty sure local rounds differently from server which leads to those issues.

[tardy otter]

what are dumpstats of weapons? like can you actually lower a stat of a weapon to increase another stat?

[clear plume]

Weapons have a total stat number of 380

since all weapons have 5 slots and the max number is 80

you can have only 4 of those stats be 80

and the last be 60

to total 380

the one at 60 is refered too as the "dump"

or the leat useful stat compared to the others

[tardy otter]

ah so you choose which one to be the lowest

gothcu

[clear plume]

yeah

you buy in bulk at Brunts until you get the one you want

[crimson nacelle]

25 but i know i can do better

i just gotta grind ig

[wheat night]

Usually mobility and defense are generally safe bets for dump stats

[pastel forge]

if it directly affects your damage output its almost never the dumpstat

[ocean dagger]

well, there's plenty of levels above 25, why do you feel the need to jump straight to 40?

trust me, it's not a slight increase in difficulty

[crimson nacelle]

ive made it to the last encounter of one and barely failed but i suppose i should swallow my pride and go for 30-35 first

[ocean dagger]

it should be easy to clear 30-35 for you then

and once you clear that, it would be easier for you to get accepted into 40's

which class are you playing?

[crimson nacelle]

ogryn

i can do 30-35 i just gotta find someone who will let me in or grind up myself

thinking of switching to zealot cause ogryns gameplay loop is pretty one note

[vocal nacelle]

zealot on havoc is golden toughness battery

[undone yew]

Whats the proper use of castigator stance

[stoic locust]

You press the button and ignore any and all personal consequences for the next 10 seconds

[undone yew]

So essentially a get out of jail free card

[stoic locust]

More or less

Or you pop it preemptively when you know what you’re about to do is stupid/risky

[undone yew]

Alr thanks

[zealous dome]

The one where you drop it for Break The Line

[crimson nacelle]

feels like everyone only does 1 thing

except veteran who does 0 things

[fickle ether]

Fury zealot works very well in havoc aswell. You arent forced into being a book nerd if you don't want to.

[limber thicket]

ah yes, the golden toughness dispenser, ammo dispenser, smokes, best specialist sniper - does 0 things

[vocal nacelle]

A good vet makes your game easier, less special and gunner to worry

And 5 nade throw

[crimson nacelle]

vet is good just outclassed

[limber thicket]

#nerfvet

[crimson nacelle]

real

[ocean dagger]

Any build can work on havok with enough skill, but you'll find it hard to get accepted into high havok lobbies with fury zealot. Mainly because high havok is less about individual strengths and more about teamplay. Book helps your entire team, while fury only helps yourself.

[pastel forge]

make it so any gun vet equips becomes a nerf gun equivalent

its nerf or nothin

[clear plume]

Fury helps your team by being a to do way better burst dps against single target and have faster horde clear

[fickle ether]

Yes and no. You could be playing the meanest support of your life popping a book every 10 - 20 secs and your team can still very easily lose H40s somehow. Support is nice but without having someone able to kill bosses/hordes then that team even with all the support in the world you can and will still lose H40s. Without individual strengths then your doomed to fail a run more times then bring a kit that can kill stuff without your team hand holding. I would know I've run book for 100 or some high havocs and without a team that can play the game well it doesnt matter how much you hand hold them they'll still end up taking a L. Support builds are nice and I like to blame the toxic havoc mindset thanks to you being able to derank (unless your H40) but at the end of the day if you can't kill stuff then it's a failed run once you get overrun.

[ocean dagger]

You can still do enough damage even without fury and besides there are other classes that can deal damage better than zealot and you can help them by making sure they stay alive with a book

[ocean dagger]

That's why i said high havok is about teamwork. Everyone has to contribute.

[fickle ether]

So then by that logic fury doesnt just help you then?

All I'm saying ability's meant for killing are just as if not more important than anything support related

[pastel forge]

support abilities are force amplifiers

on a bad team they aint gonna do shit

but on a good team it can let them steamroll through matches

[fickle ether]

🤷‍♂️ Even with good teams support isnt needed as much as people think it is. Just my own thoughts I guess and I'm well aware these arent what the majority think

At best have one support something on a team and call it day be it bubble shout or book

[clear plume]

The best support is damage

But that's just an opinion

A dead enemy can't deal damage

[pastel forge]

flamers flame patches in question:

[full stone]

Is there a resource somewhere that mentions special maps spawns? Was doing a H40 with some guys that had really good map knowledge and they started hitting a captain inside a spawn door (no retaliation). They mentioned there's some spots like that I'd like to learn lmao

[clear plume]

That stuff comes with map knowledge

Certain spawner/teleporter doors are able to be hit while they are idle in the "opening door" animation

Good practice to learn that is when a horde spawn is to attack the wall near the spawn door

If you get hit markers then it worked

[full stone]

Ic is there a way to influence the spawn door the captain comes out of in certain maps/areas, or is it a matter of luck that you happen to be near a spawn door that also happened to be their spawn point?

[clear plume]

Bosses always take the same route

So the more you play the more you see their path

Only certain boss triggers go through spawn doors

And it's usually only captains and beasts of nurgle that take the doors since they can't jump

[gusty whale]

i also find it funny when you start hearing a boss theme and Nothing At All shows up for a good while

it is 100% a bonbon

[undone yew]

I have gotten both zealot and arbites to lvl 30 and i cannot decide which class to do next between vet and psyker which one should i choose

[fast urchin]

Psyker

[limber thicket]

Vet

[zealous dome]

I agree

[tawdry agate]

uhh friend codes arent working

its cross platform

how can me and my friend play

it just shows "this code does not match this player"

[vocal nacelle]

you sure its the correct fatshark friend code?

[tawdry agate]

Super sure, he had cross play off somehow

Outside of darktide

[keen flume]

[fickle ether]

If im not mistaken console can turn off crossplay with PC or at least that's how it works in most games PC normally cant

[tawdry agate]

not in game according to him

smth to do w ps5 settings

[cedar dune]

Would Psyker be the best to push for this penance? I assume an inferno build?

I know it naturally comes with time of course but i feel determined to finish it asap!

Been going between Zealot and Psyker but not sure which would be best

[fickle ether]

Vent pysker would be the fastest way yea

[pastel forge]

vent...

https://tenor.com/view/among-us-gif-18933675

[fickle ether]

Can also do it the super boring way and farm the inf spawn on mercantile

But do not recommend that

[cedar dune]

Yea i probably won't do that as i don't know what it is xD

I'll be venting pls don't report

[fickle ether]

It's just you sitting at the start of mercantile after you blow the wall open but just before you drop down to the 2nd bomb point

[polar forum]

just play normally

this is not a penance you should power grind lol

[undone yew]

why am i getting less mats in auric than in damnation

[stoic locust]

People aren’t looking for them as hard

[undone yew]

guess that makes sense p sure i was the only one actually picking up stuff along the way

[smoky ember]

materials are the same between auric and damnation

but what catachan said

in auric, usually people already have plenty of mats

so they dont bother looking

[undone yew]

yea not me 💔

[zenith bough]

Anybody want to help me get the private game psyker penance?

[delicate peak]

new player here, I'm seeing a lot of people say to get FoV mods. Obviously the default FoV is really awfully claustrophobic, but I switched to 103 HFoV (Apex/Val have 103 and my sens/settings port right over) and it feels fine. How advantageous is a much higher FoV, really?

[stoic locust]

Not much

You can sense most actual threats through audio

[delicate peak]

the woosh sound is very nice

[stoic locust]

Some people are just high FoV gamers who like to play stuff on 135 or something (me)

[vocal nacelle]

Your screen turns into fishbowl

[undone yew]

How do u deal with hordes with mk4 dueling sword

[gusty whale]

by having a ridiculous amount of melee buffs a la zealot or dedicating a different tool for the task

(and lightspam)

[vocal nacelle]

zealot psyker or vet

just dodge and kill them one by one

[zealous dome]

Light attack

Unless you have Mk2

Then it's light heavy loop

[keen flume]

Default FoV is not as bad those modded players claim tbh

I play with default FoV at max since I got the game for 1K hours and there's no issue with if you know the audio cues and awareness

[languid jewel]

Yeah some mods are basically just little cheats you dont need.

Never had any issues with my fov

These people are the same ones that use the spidey sense mod and 3rd person mods.

[undone yew]

can you hit headshots with the plasma gun

[lime idol]

Yes

[craggy minnow]

I'd call spidey sense an accessibility mod first for people who cant hear the game for one reason or another

No sound no spidey its over

I use it sometimes if im watching a movie in discord while im playing

[polar forum]

Spidey sense? You mean the bug fix mod?

[keen flume]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/268?tab=images

[polar forum]

Yeah that’s the bug fix mod

[void forge]

Are all of your characters like this, or just one? I can only find one other case of this kind of bug and it happened to only one of their characters, the rest were fine. Also, are you using mods?

[void forge]

Is the character high enough level to have access to melk? Eg. Are you using the hub hotkeys mod to bypass the level restriction? The one other guy who's forum post I found with this issue did not have a solution so I am just spitballing here

Are any of the other shops not loading? Like the armoury/limited acquisitions

[keen hornet]

THANKS I didn't knew it fucking had a level restriction🤦‍♂️ anyways the other shops work, the problem is that with the last campaign rework I have to replay the missions with the ch`s or choose to skip everything so it's definitely it

[upper knot]

Hi, would some people help new players?
We're german.
would like to learn more and do some missions.
Thx.

For the Emperor!

[kind flame]

I can help

if ye want

[upper knot]

we will be online in some minutes. i send him invite to this dc. ^^
thx's a lot.

[kind flame]

kk, glad to help

[kind flame]

are you guys still alive?

[upper knot]

yes, but he can't join voice.

[prisma wraith]

I'm down for a few missions, can use the LFG channels to find players a bit more quickly if you need to next time

[kind flame]

I do not mind playing without vc if that is a problem

[upper knot]

ok, can i invite you via your link? we start with missions from I.

[prisma wraith]

Link?

[upper knot]

link/ invite number in his name

[kind flame]

ye can go the menu, then social, press e and enter the number next to our names

[fierce sandal]

does corruption resistance on curios work on the corruption one gets in havoc from simply taking health damage?

as far as the amount of corruption taken, i mean

[vocal nacelle]

yes

dont think it would make a big difference just stack more toughness and golden toughness

[fickle ether]

Also works on blight spreads pools (when FS loses a braincell and adds that back for 3 weeks)

[tired inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/punch-blue-hoodie-beat-up-gif-15435775

I need serious help with these karnak twins

[smoky ember]

@clear plume

[smoky ember]

what difficulty? and hardmode or not?

[tired inlet]

just the basic difficulty, ish is hard

[smoky ember]

what do you mean basic difficulty? malice? heresy? damnation?

hardmode is a seperate mode dependent on an easter egg

[tired inlet]

not hard mode

[smoky ember]

yah but what game difficulty

malice heresy damnation auric

[tired inlet]

uprising

[smoky ember]

what level are you? and what build do you have?

if you're struggling on uprising im assuming you're new

[tired inlet]

ok never mind bro anyone who wants to help without the interrogation2 im level 22

[smoky ember]

im trying to give you advice??

i was about to offer to get on and help lmfao

[vocal nacelle]

if you are playing psyker/vet i can see its kinda hard especially for a new player

[keen flume]

Level 22 struggling uprising

[keen flume]

Veteran is the most basic to learn

[vocal nacelle]

i have seen the worse , newbie vet is just a punching bag for twins

[leaden fjord]

just play arbites

if u havent bought gnarpsneedies

just play ogryn

[fierce sandal]

not a big difference no, but I've noticed sometimes I'll go from full health and whatever kills me (not a burster, maybe 2-3 dinky hits?) I'll go down with like 1.0000000001 wounds worth of corruption and be died

[clear plume]

Depending on what hits your and what class

Psyker and vet often get 1 shot by trash mods since their damage reduction is toughness damage reduction only plus they have less base hp so corruption damage is more apparent

Also

Poxwalkers deal corruption damage normally

This is added to their havoc corruption damage

So like 60% of their damage is corruption which often going through a wound on those classes when hit with no toughness

[fierce sandal]

yup, those are the two classes i've noticed it on, so that tracks

[keen ether]

Looking for decent player(s) to run rank 20 Havoc. Randoms keep getting killed within the first 5 minutes of the run and I don’t want to get demoted.

[nova bluff]

Hey i was wondering if anyone could help me get the on overwatch penance? I can try to help with anything you might need help with, but ive been struggling for days on this one penance and want the helmet from for the emperor

[fickle ether]

Twins should still work unless they changed something I missed. Get a 2nd person to do bell skip and you can knock one out every 3 mins or so

Granted only really works with the many more tries mod atm since they still havent added the twins fight to the board

[frank dust]

Hey. So I know weapons have stats that modify character's stamina cost, dodge distance, etc. Do these stats stack from both weapons or do they only count while using the said weapon?

[clear plume]

Only when holding that weapon

[undone yew]

roughly how many materials does it take to build a weapon fully

[pastel forge]

at least 4

[void forge]

Depends what the starting stats of the weapon are

Starting from mastery 0 you can max a weapon to 20 with a couple thousand plasteel

After that it depends how lucky you are and how anal you are about the stats of your weapon

[fierce sandal]

does attack speed have any affect on charge times for heavy attacks? Either in the duration of time needed to hold the button to go from light to heavy attacks, or for things that are based on charge time (thrust, "max charged heavies", etc.).

or just the animation speed?

[strange thunder]

it does

[keen flume]

Yes

If you taking attack speed buffs, it will charge faster heavies

[strange thunder]

I don't know about thrust tho

[keen flume]

It does too as far I remember

[lime idol]

No

Thrust is fixed stacking interval

Unaffected by attack speed bonuses

Same goes for Ogryn’s crunch talent

[keen flume]

Idk then, if I see the blessing icon showing I am doing stuff

Numbers and words so complicated

[fierce sandal]

good to know!

[frank dust]

Felllas, I need one more advice. When it comes to weapon stats, I usually roll to "sacrifice" mobility, stability, defence. What do I sacrifice with knife on zealot with invisibility? Mobility doesn't feel like an option since you move a lot, but other stats seem very useful too

[clear plume]

its mobility

all the other affect damage

and the difference between 60-80 is so minimal

[frank dust]

My life depends on it tho D: so squishy. But there doesn't seem to be a "win-win" scenario. Need kills to refresh invisiblity too

Thanks Ainz, for advice during these weeks

[smoky ember]

like ainz said, the loss you take between 60 to 80% mobility is entirely negligible, its something like 2% dodge distance

you do lose out on a small amount of sprint speed, but with knife you already move incredibly fast, so it doesnt really matter

[frank dust]

Imma test this in havoc. And feel the wrath of the people regardless Im afraid

On similar topic, there is a "Lacerate" blessing, that gives bleed stacks on non weakspot dmg. Will it still count on weak spot?

[strange thunder]

no

that's the trade-off

[zealous dome]

No

That's the problem with that blessing

Knife is a finesse weapon

You get rewarded a lot by hitting weakspots

Lacerate does not want you to hit weakspot

[frank dust]

Is it worth having tho, as an idea of a "back up". In all the chaos it's not like you always hit weakspot 🙄

[zealous dome]

Not worth having

Because it's a finesse weapon
So if you hit a critical body you'll deal good damage

And Riposte exists

[woeful patrol]

Is anyone else noticing control issues like character running forward without you touching the button

[smoky ember]

no

to get value out of lacerate you have to actively NOT be hitting heads

4 stacks isn’t that much

if you really want bleed, take fleshtearer uncanny

uncanny is needed to allow bleed to deal damage to carapace

[frank dust]

I had uncanny already. I just took flesh tearer

Gonna see how it goes. Thanks for the the input

[polar forum]

with mk3 it doesn't really matter

you'll aim for the head and proc laerate anyway

[lime idol]

dump mobility on knife

[smoky ember]

?

how

[polar forum]

@smoky ember

[smoky ember]

i know

but how

i saw that message

and i don’t understand what you mean by aiming for heads and proccing lacerate anyway

do you mean just missing?

[polar forum]

you light spam into hordes

at head level

and the attack animation will make you hit non-weakspots anyway

on the shit to the left and right

[smoky ember]

oh true

[polar forum]

yeah at least on vet, FT / lacerate get me about the same performance when i tested

on zealot i suspect FT is better

[smoky ember]

yah

agreed

[fierce sandal]

is mercy killer/uncanny not a good choice with vet's serrated blade talent?

I haven't directly tested, but between the 30% weakspot talent and the crit + finesse talents on the bottom right side, it seemed like a pretty winning combination

[polar forum]

mercy killer is not particularly good on vet unfortunately

mostly because the position of serrated blade and precision strikes in the tree are ass for taking both at once

[fierce sandal]

yeah it hurts having to reach over to serrated blade, fair enough

pity survivalist is such a necessity....still, that knife combo feels pretty good in aurics or lower level havocs where you can get away with close and kill so you're not wasting so many points going back and forth across the tree

[raw yacht]

why my havoc rank is going down even if i cleared auric maelstrom? I got 16 assignment, tried 1 havoc and then i did not play the mode anymore. My rank is going down even if i am regularly clearing auric maelstrom

[gusty whale]

cause not playing havoc

[strange thunder]

yeah it's only tied to havoc missions

[keen flume]

You lose one Havoc rank for not playing weekly the mode

[raw yacht]

but doing again an auric maelstrom wont bring the level at 16 again? It does not make much sense

[strange thunder]

auric maelstrom is only a way to leapfrog ahead a bit in havoc ranks

but completing hacoc missions is what havoc resolves around

if you don't play havoc missions, you will derank

[open sorrel]

does the +10% ranged damage on x enemy type perk give you the same weak spot damage as the +10% weak spot damage perk?

[clear plume]

are you asking if the increased damage to x enemy increases the finesse damage to that enemy?

and if its comparable to the +10% weakspot perk

[open sorrel]

yeah

[smoky ember]

it is not

[clear plume]

thats epic

coal

[smoky ember]

essentially, +crit and +weakspot only add 10% of the bonus damage from the crit, not the total

so say you deal 100 damage

and a weakspot is 110

[keen flume]

This truly is a fatshark poorly wording

[smoky ember]

if you have +10% weakspot damage, you would deal 111 damage

armor damage is leagues better

[keen flume]

Can we have another pin on this

[open sorrel]

very helpful, thank you

[smoky ember]

sure

oh aquilllaaaa

@fallow drift

[keen flume]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-moderator-hog-rider-gif-27029735

[smoky ember]

aaquillaaaaaa

[smoky ember]

pin this !

pretty please

i’ve been a good zealot,,,

[clear plume]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-rabbit-angry-attack-gif-8318612315233716848

[keen flume]

Honestly is just insane how poorly explained shit is in this game

[clear plume]

[keen flume]

And you have to make a deep dive on the files or big brain cells

[smoky ember]

part of the fun of fatshark games is deciphering the unexplained inane mechanics

[strange thunder]

yeah it's p ridiculous how many bad perks there are

[fallow drift]

https://tenor.com/view/saladin-gif-27220347

[smoky ember]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/126004564087406592/1379503531320414350/twitter_1929724810655158512.gif

[short light]

Any idea how to fix the bug on havoc where you can't see the players trying to join the party?

Damn, this mode is so full of bugs, lmao

[limpid raven]

hey guys somewhat new to the game and me and some mates are looking to push into the havoc mode and try our luck. i currently have a vet and arbites at 30 is there any recommended guides or ect to give me a general idea on what i should be building towards on those classes? normally we just muck around in the easier game modes but we want to try push our luck

[stoic locust]

Havoc is going to be really rough for you if you don't regularly do auric missions (at least anything above like 16-20) but most channels have pinned materials on how to build the class

You can also just ask in the class channels directly

[limpid raven]

alright cheers ill poke around in there and see what i can find. thanks

[vocal nacelle]

Low havoc 1-10 is malice difficulties

11-20 heresy

The BS starts at 30

[strange thunder]

the 20s start to get a lot of hidden modifiers accumulating, so it's not "just damnation difficulty"

[tacit badger]

Hi guys,so I'm new to modding and followed this tutorial vid to the letter. I didnt do a single thing different. But my Mod Options is empty,only DMF is inside. Whats going on?? None of these mods are outdated either they're all up to date

[tidal ocean]

You need one empty line between the names

[tacit badger]

Alright I'll do that rn and see if it works

[tidal ocean]

And then prob run the patch thing again to refresh

[vocal nacelle]

No need

[vocal nacelle]

The txt location is correct?

[tacit badger]

Yes

[vocal nacelle]

Already clicked bat file before starting?

[tacit badger]

Yep

Just like in the vid

[vocal nacelle]

Wait i don't see DMF

Modframework

[tacit badger]

It said i dont need to include dmf or base

[fickle ether]

they have the dmf there under crosshairs

[vocal nacelle]

Ah im blind

[tacit badger]

I have only mod framework

My mod options is legit empty

Idk why

[vocal nacelle]

Did you save the txt?

[tacit badger]

Yes I did

[tacit badger]

Spacing didnt work

[vocal nacelle]

Dmf showing means it works

[tidal ocean]

Hmm send some more screenshots of your files

Could be the folders are just in the wrong place

[tacit badger]

Fr?? How come my mod options is empty

[vocal nacelle]

Could be wrong location on something

[tacit badger]

I promise they arent i couldnt have followed the vid closer

Is it possible im an ultra noob and these mods just dont have mod options to toggle

[little coyote]

the load order might be an issue

[tidal ocean]

No the toggle is just a generic one under dmf

[tacit badger]

Cuz i hopped in 1 of my characters to check but nothing

[tidal ocean]

No need to toggle individually

[vocal nacelle]

Test 1 mod first

[tacit badger]

Man why is it always my pc that has issues modding fr

[tacit badger]

Like uninstall everything else??

[fickle ether]

Do you get any error messages when lauching the game?

[tacit badger]

Wait

[little coyote]

as in the mods are loaded in the order you've written them to the txt file and they're just in alphabetical order

[tacit badger]

All of a sudden its working

Wtf

[vocal nacelle]

No just delete the txt except true level

[tacit badger]

I just kept resetting

[fickle ether]

Checks out

[little coyote]

some mods need to be loaded prior others

[tacit badger]

Fuck yea guys

[tidal ocean]

Average modding moment

[tacit badger]

Our engagement appeased my machine spirit

THANKS BROTHERS

[fickle ether]

Mods were just gaslighting you be like that

[tacit badger]

FOR THE EMPEROR

[little coyote]

was the file saved before? 😄

[tacit badger]

Yea it was

This was around the 9th time resetting the game

My machine spirit was just waking up ig

[vocal nacelle]

it could be the darktide process still going when you close the previous 8 session

[tacit badger]

Oh fuck

[vocal nacelle]

so the mod doesnt load

[tacit badger]

Then yea im an ultra noob i guess

Yea i shoulda just waited

SMH

Sorry Omnissiah

[tidal ocean]

Now to break the game with random guns from weapon custom lets go

[tacit badger]

Aw hell nah 🤣

[delicate peak]

so just did my first auric maelstrom missions last week, should I have gotten my havoc rewards? or do we not get them because havoc is closed?

[strange thunder]

you only get havoc rewards from completing havoc missions

auric maelstrom completion only lets you start at a higher initial havoc rank

16 instead of 1

[delicate peak]

ah I should have automatically collected it if I had completed a havoc mission?

makes sense

[strange thunder]

no you collect rewards at the next week by interacting with the havoc terminal

the havoc closing prob prevents you from getting rewards tho, idr

[tired rampart]

what's the highest crit chance i can get?
im trying to abuse the mortis trial trait for free shots on crits to spam bolter

[clear plume]

100%

[tired rampart]

so far im getting
5% base
25% cavalcade
25% blazing piety
5% perk on the gun

any sources of crit chance im missing?

or maybe i should change class?

[vocal nacelle]

surgical

[analog hawk]

Can someone help me get malleus monstrorum on psyker

[smoky ember]

@warm elk do u still help people with that

[glossy jewel]

Question on the timed based waves coming to Auric. Are those like every X minutes a horde spawns. Or is it, after you defeat a horde, you have X minutes before the next one spawns? Just wondering if you can get multiple hordes at the same time.

[keen flume]

#ogryn-class message

Pretty sure it will still spawn both traversal/triggering and timer hordes at same time

More runts to slaughter