hivescum-class

[north crow]

depends

on the weapon

but than again, you are taking frenzy with hard hitters to begin with

is gonna be your cookie cutter build

last point depends on blitz

[zenith pagoda]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a157966e-af42-4676-a70c-a530eef189ea/avoid-blight

[north crow]

coating with blackout, +1 with other 2

[snow scroll]

Basically what I ended up with, with minor differences

[north crow]

its pretty nobrainer is why lol

the only point I could get rid of is the mini vet shout

but its so nice to have

[main wagon]

Playing with my German buddy and this is torturing him

They take the least efficient routes

[north crow]

erm

cheap shots is meant to be cleave

[torpid cloud]

i mean im running a tac axe which is fast enough that im kinda thinking not taking any adrenaline generation nodes might actually be a valid idea

[bronze glade]

even better

[jovial heron]

Right?

[snow scroll]

With how little map info they give us, efficiency is a crapshoot anyway, I'd be satisfied if people at the very least didn't run directly away from the one pinged node

[livid raven]

so how awful are expeditions

[zenith pagoda]

Everything is awful rn

Fatshark broke a tonne of things

[main wagon]

If the next point is close tbh, I will just walk away and go do it

[snow scroll]

It's like... I ping the closest node and have to wait ten seconds just to see where the single cell organisms that answer for my team are roaming

[torpid cloud]

does darktide have abaked in fps counter somewhere in the options

[main wagon]

We don’t need 3 people waiting on the door to unlock after the minigame is done

[livid raven]

you can enable one in steam's options

[torpid cloud]

oh thats neat

[main wagon]

Steam Overlay goated

[livid raven]

it looks like this

[main wagon]

I’ve got the Nvidia one so mine is green

[livid raven]

or yeah your gpu's software should also provide an overlay that shows the fps

[north crow]

you ain't doing that on havoc blight unless you confiscated a NASA PC

[main wagon]

The state of gaming where I’m like “damn is my PC really struggling to handle this” and then I notice DLSS + FrameGen are both off in Nioh 3

The dependency on these programs is booty, but not having/using them is cray cray

[torpid cloud]

I low key regret going amd

Eben though the card is more powerful than the nvidia I was using before my game performance tanked

[north crow]

I shudn't have to deal with 4-50 FPS on a 9700X + 9070 XT playing havoc

[main wagon]

Agh I feel for you

[north crow]

but its 2026

so I do

[main wagon]

I’m an Intel + NVIDIA slave thru and thru

It just works™ (in my experience)

[north crow]

I can run UE5 at 100-120 NP pre framegen

but stingray is a fuckin dinosaur

that sucks hard

[main wagon]

Yeah

Autodesk engine doing its best

[north crow]

I can't wait to see what they can cook with UE5

that engine is legit awesome by now

took em a while, but they got there

[main wagon]

I always heard bitching and moaning about it, was there some big breakthrough?

[north crow]

5.4

I have zero complaints anymore with 5.4

[main wagon]

Tbf the last time I actually “followed” UE5 was when oblivion remake dropped

Ahhh gotcha

[north crow]

I mean, its hard not to run into, 90% of games is UE5 at this point

[torpid cloud]

Oblivion remake was peak but also some hitbox es were just fucked

[mighty belfry]

L8 on this

But

[hybrid veldt]

Very much late

[mighty belfry]

Bursters, snipers, pox gas, barrels

What do they all have in common?

[hybrid veldt]

I have 9 stam

Nothing

[bronze glade]

another 9 stam enjoyer

[hybrid veldt]

There is more

No fuckin way

[hybrid veldt]

Nah im only joking, I know they wreak house but its almost like everything can if you let it

[mighty belfry]

But what about those specifically, are common with each other?

[hybrid veldt]

Im not 5 bro

[mighty belfry]

They don't give a shit about your toughness.

[hybrid veldt]

I know its hp dmg

[mighty belfry]

So. It's good padding for the stuff that doesn't care.

[hybrid veldt]

But i have more then enough hp honestly

I think 2nd hand gunners fuck me the most

[mighty belfry]

It's significantly more valuable in havoc

[hybrid veldt]

No where near has valuable as 9 stam

Nah i gotta let this joke die

[north crow]

I don't even have a singel stam curio 🙁

[mighty belfry]

Cuz your health pool there goes down to less than 100 lol

[hybrid veldt]

I gotta extra 5% on 1 curio

Thank you very much

[mighty belfry]

I mean

[hybrid veldt]

No

[mighty belfry]

You'll survive a burster

[hybrid veldt]

No

[mighty belfry]

Just, good luck not getting immersed in a fart bomb

[hybrid veldt]

The beneficent emperor has blessed me and ill accept it

[zenith pagoda]

I take 3x bomber

[hybrid veldt]

500 hundred pox bursters

https://tenor.com/view/celebrate-dance-conga-morgan-freeman-happy-dance-gif-19144508

[main wagon]

I have 19 fucking +3 Stam curios on my scum

[mighty belfry]

I have like

7

And only 1 21 health curio

[main wagon]

I started collecting them to prove a point because Brunt and Melk weren't giving me any Toughness at all

[mighty belfry]

After over 100k melkers 😭

[main wagon]

I've got six of the 21% HP curios

1 single 17% toughness

So I run double stam with that lol

The worst part is that all 19 of those stam curios are legit. They're all 410 or over

Which burned that much harder that I wasnt getting a single 17% tough

If we ever get player trading I'm going to be Santa and give them all away to noobs on the Mourningstar

[main wagon]

Necro but remember at launch when ray tracing was just forced on and you had to go into the ini to turn it off?

Never change, Fatshark

[hybrid veldt]

Some people are begging while others are showering in it

[mighty belfry]

Only class I have all the curios I really want maxed out is vet

Somehow managed to get two 21s on them

And by the throne I'm going to use them even if it's probably not the most optimal choice

[flat mist]

Idk why they dont just roll that change back

They used to be far easier to get

[mighty belfry]

"Engagement"

[verbal dew]

I think I have two 21% health, two +3 stam, and one 17% toughness

[limber cradle]

I've got uh

3x 3 stams, 3x 17 toughness, and 3x 21 hps

I destroyed the rest

I think they're all 420 or higher?

[limber cradle]

I think path runs 2 HPs

And 1 toughness

[topaz adder]

guys is hivescum the most based class

[trim wind]

freebased

[brittle sierra]

No, Ogryn is

[naive briar]

Anyone got a dual stub pistol and shivs build?

[lost ravine]

yes#hivescum-class message

[leaden pendant]

kinda wanna try this desperado double barrel build https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a0865729-f8f1-4473-82c4-d9627b713cce/hobo-with-a-shotgun-2

the name is peak

[naive briar]

Ty!

[bronze crown]

https://tenor.com/view/hobo-homeless-shotgun-intro-hobo-with-a-shotgun-gif-17119580

[torpid cloud]

what kinda weird aah roll is thias

4 80s and a 61?

[austere coyote]

probably a rounding thing

[astral canyon]

rounding error

[leaden pendant]

u have the best rolled needle pistol in the game, gg

[astral canyon]

eh not really

dumping damage or stopping power wouldve been better

[naive briar]

@lost ravine what's your stimm build look like?

[lost ravine]

#hivescum-class message

[mighty belfry]

This is arguably the worst roll actually

Stability actually matters on needle the most

[low harbor]

isn't it just sway

[mighty belfry]

Yeah. Have you ever tried to shoot something at range with it?

It fucking sucks

Even at 80%

[low harbor]

oh lol

idk it was fine

it's not a high sway gun

[mighty belfry]

I guess ammo is also important too

[mighty belfry]

It isnt

But the sights are really awkward for longer distances

And the sway does not help at all for me

[low harbor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1075782743285301308/1448329868491100252/supra.gif

[coral mirage]

this is why duel pistols is the best weapon

cause when is stand still get hit 20 times as I spin the gun to hit the sniper for half health

its dope

and thats all that matters

[manic wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-25491298

[low harbor]

dual handguns are cool

they remind me of the dualies in counterstrike

[naive briar]

Ty!

[astral canyon]

i still wish they had built in run n gun

like the daps

[manic wolf]

Man wouldnt that be a QoL upgrade

[astral canyon]

actually tbh i think all the pistol-type weapons should have it

[manic wolf]

Bpistol with in-built Run'n'Gun?

Stop.

[astral canyon]

laspistol, bistol, revolver

[manic wolf]

I can only get so hard.

[low harbor]

no cuz that would actually make that gun good

[mighty belfry]

Don't talk about my baby like that.

She's done nothing wrong to you.

[low harbor]

not my fault FS butchered another warhammer 40k iconic weapon

[mighty belfry]

I mean at least for scum it does have some good value

[low harbor]

yea it makes blinder radius better

not because the gun itself is good

cuz it's not

[sonic pumice]

dumbest question of the day: what is the most effective way to make the Hscum a tank? not necesarily as much as taking hits like ogryn or arby, but making it generate as much toughness for self/team while still being effective

[stray mulch]

i would say going top right stim with regen

• the dependence upgrade with DR and Hive City Brawler

along with rampage

i think its something like 81% DR between it all

[sonic pumice]

what upgrades you mean for the stim? Vultoprene (from top right for crits to trigger coated weaponry) and Tank (to amp the toughness regen you are getting)?

[stray mulch]

not sure if you NEED that much DR though

the regen i've used a bit. I like it

[sonic pumice]

Regain instead of Tank? is it better?

[stray mulch]

I like it more since its passive gain

you already gain a ton of toughness imo

if you go the dependency route too every stim is 50% toughness

rampage is full toughness

any bullet that touches you is 10% per second for 3 seconds

forges'e bellow on rampage is also broken imo

the increased attack time it gives enemies

[loud herald]

hey scummers what's up

[sonic pumice]

Kinda why i was leaning into Tank, to make your already stupid toughness regen into even dumber, but additn something else that doesnt trigger in the same scenarions do round and cover it better, will give it a try

[stray mulch]

tbh you could take either, I value passive regen because sometimes you are the last one alive and the bleed over you can prevent is nice. Any Space is basically 1% less damage to your HP is how i see it

[naive briar]

Best blessing to pair with run and gun on the dual stub pistols?

[tranquil fjord]

desperado blessing

[low harbor]

sustained fire

[naive briar]

Thx guys

[stray mulch]

im trying so HARD to move away from Street Tough, but I am so bad to the point where i do need it XD

[bronze glade]

it's kinda nice tbh

the stagger's decently strong

[flat mist]

Just embrace the OPness

[stray mulch]

legit feels like i can kite the world for a whole 5 mins

then my hands cramp and then i die

[flat mist]

Street tough + forges below + blackouts + bistol on my build. I feel untouchable in melee

Lethal proximity increasing the range on street tough is so funny

[stray mulch]

i saw it shared yesterday but im not sure how id every really use it

[flat mist]

You dont need to actively use it, more stuff around you will simply be staggered

[stray mulch]

aaah, good point

I wish toxic mania had a lingering duration ngl

things actually die too fast to have high uptime on it feels like

[reef spoke]

remove your damage buffs

ez fix c:

[stray mulch]

WILD!

[reef spoke]

brb taking off Rampage to give the enemies a chance

[flat mist]

Bad node is still bad

[stray mulch]

but its funny when you blow and entire pack up with the toxins

but yeah its just 5% base damage most of the time 🙁

the only thing i think i can swap for it is maxed out chems maybe

or i guess jittery...

[flat mist]

Theres a ton of good nodes left

[stray mulch]

good nodes, yes

but not that i think i can or will be utilizing much

[flat mist]

Just take more damage?

[stray mulch]

weakspot damage, hyper crit tertium welcom and the like wont do much

or i guess hypercrit for add clear is the best bet

[flat mist]

It all adds up man

Especially on the class with hyperviolence

[stray mulch]

yeah the thing is when i removed hyper crit i was actually getting more blackouts

XD

Didnt know until yesterday that it doesnt help build up the stacks for blackout when it procs

[ashen osprey]

Is "focused resolve" for desperado as bad as it looks

[livid raven]

no

it's worse

[ashen osprey]

h o w

It looks fucking useless

[livid raven]

yeah, and it is

it had higher values initially pretty sure

but they nerfed it to hell for release instead of i dunno

having a node that does something

[ashen osprey]

A whole 5 seconds off my 45 second cooldown

amaaaaazing

[stray mulch]

Okay ppl

what perks do i use?

[verbal dew]

dump cleave targets

[clear tusk]

does getting kills with tox from the cleaver proc splash damage?

[jovial heron]

My gut says no

Probably testable in psykhabium though

[clear tusk]

seems like it doesnt

bummer

[verbal dew]

tox is the bane of all talent synergy

[stray mulch]

can confirm it's a no

only the melee hit will cause it

WOULD have been nice if it worked like the psyker passive for targets with toxin on them

but only the space wizard gets OP stuff

[lost ravine]

cough STREET TOUGH

precision violence

[stray mulch]

and yet neither of those are as broken as soul flame talents

matter of fact, given the kits, they dont even come close

[ashen osprey]

Double Barrel with maxed reload speed works wonders with desperado

Like "clear a room in seconds" wonders

[silent abyss]

so you say hive scum is not op KEKW

[stray mulch]

the only class that i think is legitematley overpowered is psyker, everything else ranges from strong to ogryn

[zenith pagoda]

Scum is arguably more powerful than psyker

If they didn't nerf pickpocket it certainly would be

[silent abyss]

not op

sure

[stray mulch]

not even closeeverything you would do here gets cleared by a purgy staff and shirek

no

or vet nades

so again

no

[flat mist]

jesus christ please mute enemies in psykh

i think im having a stroke

[stray mulch]

you could spam a counter

or just not need to use one at all

.>

[livid raven]

me when i visit england and take a step outside

[stray mulch]

almost certain zealot would be able to clear that without getting hit too ngl

[silent abyss]

you could play something other than soulblaze

[stray mulch]

yeah

i could go bubble and use the same sword

and still not take damage

[zenith pagoda]

Scum is better than psyker in many ways

[stray mulch]

what makes psyker busted ISN'T just the bubble or soul blaze

[silent abyss]

and oyu wouldnt be clearing it as fast

[zenith pagoda]

You can literally just speedrun a map, wait until everything clumps together and then rocket it

[stray mulch]

that wasnt fast

so why doest that matter

if you cared about speed that would not be what you'd want to do to begin with

[livid raven]

wasn't that very slow

[silent abyss]

I wasnt even using the chem combustion XD

[stray mulch]

i mean you chose to show that to us not me

im just saying it wasnt fast idk

[silent abyss]

the point is its broken even without it so

[stray mulch]

devil sword is strong

i dont think it doing what you showcased there is what would or should be the showcase though idk

not for an argument on being overpower

legit all the other classes except ogryn are in a spot i can call them strong. Psyker legit is just the best class in the game and it's not even close. Not really much can be said to change that view point

[silent abyss]

the point is you saying psyker get op bullshit whic is incorrect

[stray mulch]

psyker is op

and needed tuning

[stray mulch]

hence the nerf it literally JUST got on the update

[livid raven]

what nerf

[stray mulch]

dome cd

[livid raven]

truly a disaster

[silent abyss]

wasnt a nerf but a rescale

tbh

[stray mulch]

dome got nerfed

not rescaled

higher cd is a nerf

the wall getting touched is not the dome itself

[zenith pagoda]

https://youtube.com/shorts/eYp5zZjozlE

This was before the update

[stray mulch]

im sorry what does this prove?

any opinion is not correct or incorrect

what kind of logic is that?

[livid raven]

what

[silent abyss]

you literally said only psyker get op stuff

[stray mulch]

yes

which is an opinion

[livid raven]

no, it's a statement

[silent abyss]

this is op I literally used no skill what so ever just spam devils claw kill 70 ragers in less than a minute

[stray mulch]

opinions are shared in form of a statement no?

[livid raven]

i mean, it's just not true, other classes also get op stuff

[stray mulch]

we gunna really delve into semantics

[silent abyss]

not really you stated as a fact

[stray mulch]

that's an opinion

[silent abyss]

I can I am a semantician

[livid raven]

well no, i can't say red is blue and then say it's my opinion when someone else says red is red

[stray mulch]

or you assumed it that way because comprehension failed you there

[silent abyss]

so now we attack people's comprehensive capabilities KEKW

[stray mulch]

also an opinion btw

[silent abyss]

and that was after the original statement

[stray mulch]

its not an insult when you say someone fails to comprehend something. I stated an opinion. I shouldnt NEED to say that an opinion IS an opinion chief

[stray mulch]

WOULD have been nice if it worked like the psyker passive for targets wit toxin on them

but only the space wizard is OP

where was it said this is a fact?

[silent abyss]

second part is a statement

presented as if its a fact

[stray mulch]

all parts are statements

[livid raven]

i think you guys are too fixated on semantics

[stray mulch]

no

[silent abyss]

A statement in linguistics is an illocutionary act (speech act) that asserts a proposition, typically using a declarative sentence to convey a fact, idea, or truth claim. Statements are categorized as either simple or compound, generally ending with a full stop, and are designed to represent a particular state of affairs as true.

[stray mulch]

because it was a statemnt

tf makes one a statement and the other a fact randomly?

did i say any other opinion was false?

or just that one thing is op

if i think something is op that is an opinion, the same as how you think something is

thats why we can disagree on it

[silent abyss]

you didnt say :I think

[stray mulch]

a FACT aint that chief

[stray mulch]

an opinion does not need ot lead with that

dont be daft

[silent abyss]

you said ONLY SPACE WIZARDS get OP stuff

[stray mulch]

yea

that's an opinion

[silent abyss]

and that is a statement not an opinion XD

[stray mulch]

oh yeah, you're trolling

lmao

[silent abyss]

nope you are the one trolling by trying retract you previous statement

[stray mulch]

really gunna sit here and tell me it's only an opinion when i say ''i think?''

im not retracting a single thing

not even what you took as insult in the matter

[livid raven]

bros it's not so serious

[rapid mango]

desperado scum can easily outdamage an inferno shriek psyker in h40

[stray mulch]

not about damage either

[rapid mango]

ah so you have no idea what youre arguing for. got it

[stray mulch]

can and will are also 2 different thing

[dire badge]

I'd like to see a space wizard inject themself with an agility fent injector and go across the expedition map faster than you can say fentonal

[rapid mango]

true. skill plays a HUGE part in how psyker and scum perform. most people are mid or worse

but if you think scum isnt op, then you have no idea how to play it

[stray mulch]

mhmmm

or i just dont share the same sentiment

[dire badge]

I'd say it's balanced because it's only op at high skill when youre good enough to not get two shoy

[rapid mango]

to be fair i can do this with my +60% movespeed buff stacking

[stray mulch]

^

[silent abyss]

the fact that I can just spam parry and kill 100 rager is a very good demonstration of no skill what so ever XD

[dire badge]

Wait which class has this

[silent abyss]

space wizard

[rapid mango]

psyker, in chunks

[stray mulch]

if skill is a ''huge part'' AND you say most people don't HAVE SAID skill wat is the point you are trying to make after saying i dont know what im arguing? You didnt really elaborate much there

[rapid mango]

psyker has a much higher skill ceiling than you think

[livid raven]

and many other lies the psyker players tell themselves

[rapid mango]

99% of people thing inferno bubble is good

[silent abyss]

for an example I will never be able to clear that many ragers less than a minute with psyker cuz I suck at it XD

[rapid mango]

take a random scum and a random inferno psyker. youll see what happens

[livid raven]

you'd just get some headshot and then flame, i think

[dire badge]

I think scum being stronger than psyker only at high skill level is great. High skill needs to be rewarded in s game

[rapid mango]

i wont argue psyker is op, but the common psyker SUCKS

if i run another class and im with a random psyker, it hurts me to watch them spam lmb on inferno then die 2s later

[stray mulch]

on average the majority of player playing any of the classes suck

[zenith fern]

https://tenor.com/view/mimimimimi-cat-sleeping-snoring-cat-sleeping-cat-drooling-cat-gif-23979759

[stray mulch]

given the posts that was floating around for a while about most players being stuck on MALICE

[rapid mango]

including a dev

[zenith fern]

Be honest chief, i try to use inferno but it is not any enganging to me for some reason as fun it is to flame trash hordes

[stray mulch]

it's honestly boring

[rapid mango]

its more fun if youre aggressive

[zenith fern]

It also not be able to take down enemies at long range

[livid raven]

flame can now take the daggers tho

[zenith fern]

My muscle memory for playing too much voidblast/strike staves

[stray mulch]

i would vouch for assail on purgy staff, but you could get a lot of far targets by just shrieking

or i guess on what you think is far

[livid raven]

snipers and gunners in the other side of the room

[rapid mango]

ah before i forget

who has the clip of cole killing a crusher blob with heavy sword on scum

if anyone

[muted pivot]

so randos are just not bothering to remove dogs from people now then

[rapid mango]

nyoooom for you

[stray mulch]

a lot of players put 0 priority on specials and elites

ever since i returned i'v realize that there are people that dont even turn when they make sounds

getting back shots from crushers and maulers

[silent abyss]

mind you thats not a peril gauge its speedometer KEKW( I am obv joking )

[muted pivot]

just back to the old rule of matchmaking

the game is immediately over the moment you get tagged by a single disabler

[stray mulch]

try to rely on no one

game is less depressing that way

[muted pivot]

I'm consistently inconsistent across all games lol

[stray mulch]

at least, Street Tough saves you from dogs

or 1 dog every 8 seconds

[torpid cloud]

Assuming the charge is always up

[flat mist]

A dog isnt gonna kill ya in that 8s unless you're on like 2 health

[torpid cloud]

Oh it can save you even if the dog is already on you?

Neat

[keen bridge]

Finally decided to pick hivescum up again after dropping them and it finally all clicked, it's beautiful

Didn't realize the explosion from the stimm crate is so good

[livid raven]

(it isn't)

[flat mist]

Its mid on a good day

[stray mulch]

it's fun and i guess it can give space, but imo at least for now it's just gimmicky

im gunna try some havocs with it as soon as I get my last +3 stam curio

[leaden pendant]

trick shot is so fun i want a build based around it

just hitting them in sequence is 🧑‍🍳 👌

[ashen osprey]

God Clandestium is such a shit mission
Ended in 10 seconds because a horde of gunners spawned on the other side of the sightline you SPAWN IN
I literally could not get to cover in time

[livid raven]

yeah seems they fucked up something and now enemies spawns in the first piece of the map where they are not supposed to spawn in

[flat mist]

Im enjoying it to be honest

[ashen osprey]

Once you get past the first area it's a perfectly fine map
Also that objective that forces you to reset is extremely annoying

[stray mulch]

the gate?

[ashen osprey]

With the shuttle yeah
With how fast enemies spawn and how long you need to hold the button you kinda NEED to use some kind of AoE to do it

[flat mist]

Theres a pattern to where they spawn btw

[stray mulch]

yeah, i like that part

but that's where a lot of runs end

it can be rough with no aoe, or focus on ranged elites

[ashen osprey]

Or ranged enemies in general

I'm noticing ranged chaff more and more, when they focus fire on one person it takes a big chunk of health out

[stray mulch]

almost certain ranged units target the closest person in LoS, but yeah having been the one targeted is rough

been enjoying stripdown because of it

seeing more invis vets and have been feeling more targeted, but that mission is still very fun minus getting blasted off or dodging off the cliff in the beginning section

[main wagon]

Could just be the openness of Deadside but Stalkers are fucking scary

They’re not as bad as Havoc Stalkers but it’s definitely one worth spending a bullet for

[torpid cloud]

should i respec out of adrenaline and into chem dependency for the crit chance or is frenzy just better

i do kinda wanna experiment with shred

[random shuttle]

Scumming around the globe

[zenith pagoda]

Depends what weapon and build

[torpid cloud]

tac ax

[molten shale]

Adrenaline has felt better for tac axe for me personally, but it'll depend on other factors too. I'd recommend trying chem dep out for a few matches if you're curious about it.

[flat mist]

My issue with chem dep is that now sample collector has moved is it even worth it to take toxin nodes for melee

Its a heavy tax, and you can spend those points on pure damage and some utility

[astral canyon]

yes

splash damage is fucking insane

[flat mist]

Hmm ok, thats what ive still been working out

[astral canyon]

chem dep also is still really good for high finesse damage weapons

eg shivs

[flat mist]

Yeah its goated in isolation

Without pathing issues i mean

[astral canyon]

doesnt really have much issues with pathing issues when you consider splash damage

[spice cloud]

Is the bonesaw high finesse?

[flat mist]

If its that good its that good, and i can see it may be

But theres still the toxin damage node tax and coated weaponry tax

Its not insignificant, is all im saying

[zenith pagoda]

Yeah but you can get like 70% crit chance without it

[flat mist]

A 4x modifier is still nutty even when you're approaching crit cap

[zenith pagoda]

Yes, on paper bonesaw has the most synergy for scum

[spice cloud]

Ok nice

[zenith pagoda]

Toxin application, high base stamina for more attack speed, crit modifier

But.... It's still bad

[spice cloud]

Just wondering if chem dep had been wasted on it all this time

[zenith pagoda]

Crit hits apply 2 toxin

As well as increasing damage

[spice cloud]

Thats good to hear

[flat mist]

Its just never felt good

Toxin mode is like oooh i can hit something three times and... oh ok i still have to wait for it to die

[zenith pagoda]

If it had perfect strike blessing....

That would be a different story

[spice cloud]

The heavy 1 just sucks

It takes too long

And doesnt really do much

Like u really strugglr into cara

[flat mist]

Funny thing is the alt mode feels better for clearing flak hordes because of the way higher ADMs on light attacks

[spice cloud]

I honestly never bother with it

Chnaging it is sadly very clunky

Mid combos

It should atleast autoblock

[flat mist]

Just stack crit with shred, chd and float and rending mode hypercrit everything to death

Lel

Sad how its almost better than the painful reality of toxin mode

[spice cloud]

Idk i still really struggle into cara with it

Even with the toxin if theres too many crushers or scab maulers i have to resort to needler

With the shivs its no issue at all

[flat mist]

Shivs go brrrrr

Eschewing chd/right side and taking literally every other damage node makes them do some even sillier numbers than i was seeing before

[raven apex]

Shivs are knives, but better

Are they not?

[stray mulch]

this, i feel like if you are going melee specific it HAS t obe crit and the toxin nodes are kinda meh unless you have a high enough amount

virulent strain is decent for 10% damage

but idk if you can get that with regular melee if you dont crit for coated weaponry

toxin mania basically does nothing unless you have something alive with the DoTs

the paths to chem dependent might suck unless you are build for toxin i think. I like them for the needle gun and bonesaw tho

should be getting around 1500 DoT on a Monster with this and just a 8% str stim. Hard to test with no mods though.

pretty much the only thing that doesn't die fast is crushers since you only get 6 shots and it takes a minimum of 2 per crusher

[flat mist]

You dont need +1 nade with blackouts its basically useless

[stray mulch]

for what im doing its also useless to go coated weaponry too tbh

[flat mist]

Swap that with coated, get rid of mania and virulent and get splash and hyperviolence

[stray mulch]

at least if i ever feel like dumping 6 i have the option XD

im not critting enough with coating

[flat mist]

Also u have the toughness damage reduction instead of crit in chem dep

[stray mulch]

i think im only at like 20% and most of my kills come from the needle pistol for the nades anyway

yup, it's on demand toughness heal, my crit doesnt hit over 50%

[flat mist]

Oh is this a ranged build

[stray mulch]

i tried it for 2 days at 50% bonesaw is just oo slow for the 1 toxin to even matter

yeah

big horde

alt fire into crowds

watch everything die

swap back to normal mode for specials and elites

run in between firing for a bit of damage if you want from run n' gun

since stim is always up its 5 shots for 1 nade during a horde

[flat mist]

Honestly the whole build is backwards then

Get rid of all the melee nodes

Swap to crit aura

[stray mulch]

i tried every single ranged node

i took all the nodes that help the damage

XD

[flat mist]

Get hypercrit because you just need to get that melee kill for pick pocket

[stray mulch]

hyper crit does not proc pickpocket

[flat mist]

Yeah but you're only meleeing for pick pocket, right?

Most of your blackout regen will be from needle pistol anyway

[stray mulch]

lets see, when i was on crit i had less damage for the melee

so id give up the 1 of the clos ragnge damages for hyper

and i have to ttake the crit drom dependent

so thats probably another damage node id give up too

i need street tough atm because of lag

sec

base is 10% then 25% more from tree and 4ish % from crit bonus

idk if the saw has its on crit on top of that tbh

so 40% crit lets say

then i lose even MORE damage to go back to Float as well

then i do nothing with dots basically XD

[stray mulch]

virulent strain

[flat mist]

Oh should swap something for virulenr

Ya was just typing that haha

[stray mulch]

and im still using toxic mania unfortunately

because it does kill hordes faster

im gunna copy the set and try it again

swift endurance > ammo jack

i still pref that melee attack speed

the clip size is pointless on the gun

[flat mist]

Probably drop float for virulent

[stray mulch]

i think you'd want float if using hyper crit no?

[flat mist]

Inconsistent 20% crit is way worse than permanent 15% crit from chem dep

[stray mulch]

well it's possible to have both XD

[flat mist]

Fair, it just means 1/7 more reloads

[stray mulch]

would be 65% crit if i dodge enough bullets

[flat mist]

Yeah but what haha

Crit is the least needed thing

[stray mulch]

and i kinda like persicion violence

[flat mist]

And your shivs should have riposte

[stray mulch]

im using bone saw

because bonesaw amps toxin on bosses

like a lot

[flat mist]

Oh

[stray mulch]

if i had the mods it would be easier to check

[flat mist]

Why not just shoot them with needle

[stray mulch]

i think it was like 37.5% rending at max purple stacks

[flat mist]

The rending adds fuck all

[stray mulch]

no

rending adds a lot

it's like the diff of almost 200 from just the stim

not including the stacks from the bone saw

[flat mist]

On unyielding?!

[stray mulch]

and then when running in close range i go from like 800 dot to 1400 ish

[stray mulch]

yes

1 sec lemme save this side build and show a clip of the numbers at base

[flat mist]

Well if you're doing that swap the extra nade for coated wep

So your bonesaw can maintain max stacks of toxin on the boss without switching off rending mode

[stray mulch]

pointless

the gun maxes out the stacs

you cant go past 30 stacks

[flat mist]

Its not. Toxin starts falling off after like 2s

[stray mulch]

thats fine

apply brittle

go back to gun

[flat mist]

Switching back and forth to maintain it loses dps

And the nade is pointless

[stray mulch]

the dps on the bone saw is ass thogh lmao

65% crit isnt going to be that consisten me thinks, i AM going to try it tho

[flat mist]

65% is super consistent

[stray mulch]

fine. i just like a bit more crit tbh

i could end up liking it

[flat mist]

I get that but its fine for applying coated weaponry

You'll be swinging fast with swift endurance anyway

[stray mulch]

steam is messing around with my recording...

so from what im seeing though at max toxin stacks with no purple toxin applied the ticks are at 1294

no quick and deadly either

[flat mist]

Updated

You're running a max duration stimm, right?

[stray mulch]

that's what im trying right now, yeah

[flat mist]

Max cooldown*

[stray mulch]

i might give up on quick and deadly tbh

[flat mist]

Whats ur stimm cd

75s? Max?

[stray mulch]

45 seconds if im maxing it

21 seconds for lazy runs

[flat mist]

Bruh

[stray mulch]

yeah, im a degen

[flat mist]

Why you even running chem dep then

[stray mulch]

for the toughness

dr

and 50% replenish

and with what you are giving me its for the crit

chem dep cdr doesnt mean anything when the stim upgrade on stim supply exists

anytime i get a stim the cd refreshes

[flat mist]

Yeah thats what im saying

You could spend those three points on the reload TDR and two other things

[stray mulch]

probalem is

when i WASN'T running the extra DR and refresh

I actually died

I don't like doing that

[flat mist]

That aint gonna make the difference man. Take the reload TDR, precision violence and, idk, butterfly

Precicison violence is so strong when you're hitting things

[stray mulch]

i never remove that talent

lmao

[flat mist]

And calling for a timeout is 25% TDR

[stray mulch]

it was already on to begin with

[flat mist]

And it should be up most of the time if you're ranged focused

You dont need an instant heal when you have burst of energy, tis but a scratch and nimble

Just dodge out of harms way and get back to attacking to gen toughness

[stray mulch]

when FS stops lagging me when im trying to clutch in auric to test things i can remove it

[flat mist]

The stimm is a distraction

[stray mulch]

i guess i COULD go without a key stone 🙂

[flat mist]

You CAN

[stray mulch]

calling for a time out would feel clunky

[flat mist]

Beautiful

A work of art

[heavy patio]

UPPER FERNTREE GULLY???

[flat mist]

Thats tha hood

[stray mulch]

oh

you know what we ignored?

why having coated weaponry makes no sense?

[flat mist]

Emigrated from Boronia at the tender age of 18

[stray mulch]

IT DOESN'T MEAN SHITE WHEN YOU NEED THE RANGED WEAPON OUT

lmao

[flat mist]

For the damage?

[stray mulch]

0 benefit from in your face when the ranged weap isnt out

yeah

lmao

[flat mist]

Yeah so this whole bonesawing the boss thing is out haha

Thank god

[stray mulch]

just brittle and go back to shooting

im so dumb

i mentioned it

and then forgot

lmao

[flat mist]

Well its gonna fall off after 5s

[stray mulch]

only gotta do 1 or 2 heavies then swap

the stacks dont fall off super fast

they do so in like incraments of 5 or some ish

if i HAD mods it would be easier to check...

[flat mist]

Seems unneccesarily complicated

[stray mulch]

not a single thing i do in this game is simple

[flat mist]

But if theres nothing else to shoot i suppose you might aswell

[stray mulch]

except play vet

because vet is funny

[flat mist]

Alright i must go to bed

I shouldve hours ago

[stray mulch]

ty for the ideas

im still gunna try the crit set up again

[flat mist]

No worries, was fun playing the build doctor haha

[torpid cloud]

I wonder how modern desperado builds look
Going straight bullet hose is probably reserved for desperado to be off cooldown and preferably a horde swarm

I'd assume heavy cooldown focus on curios and stimm with some strength to make melee good

[rancid gulch]

What are the main stats I should be looking for in a good Shiv roll?

I'm guessing this probably isn't worth spending resources on

[astral canyon]

60% mobility

Thats about it

[rancid gulch]

really? So you wouldn't hesitate spending resources to customize this one?

[astral canyon]

I would

That one has 61% penetration instead

So not good

[rancid gulch]

oh so you mean that the max on mobility should be 60, like [xx/60]%?

[stray mulch]

if you don't have the resources to roll a new one i think I'D keep it for a bit

otherwise replace it

[carmine lodge]

Does anybody have a build I can follow for boom bringer. Every video find has a completely different skill tree from mine and I can't follow them

[rancid gulch]

I'm only level 24 right now so I can keep running missions, I was just thinking it'd be nice to start customizing since I maxed out the mastery for them

[astral canyon]

You dont really build for boom bringer

[rancid gulch]

Thanks for the advice 🙏

[zenith pagoda]

Lethal prox

[carmine lodge]

Thanks for not helping

[stray mulch]

0.0

[astral canyon]

I mean thats really it

[stray mulch]

ngl fam, they really did just try to help you

[astral canyon]

You just slap it on any build and you nuke armor clusters

[stray mulch]

you really dont build for it, or it's more like you can;t

[rancid gulch]

He's kind of right, there's not much you can do to maximize Boom, especially since there's no blitz regen for it

[astral canyon]

Thats really all there is to it

[rancid gulch]

There's the tox bonus on the right side, but that's about it

[astral canyon]

+1 blitz is usually a lot more impactful

[stray mulch]

Boom Bringer is an ordinance that has no extra effect like Blackout so the most you can do is get an extra blitz and hope you get more grenades during a mission.

[astral canyon]

For rocket

[rancid gulch]

True forgot about that one, but still there's a pretty limited amount of focus you can put on it. Very likely it'll run out early on and you might not find grenades for when you really need it

[livid raven]

bro

[stray mulch]

also

why so mean when asking for help and getting an appropiate response?

[rancid gulch]

since I've maxed mastery on the shivs, what other melee weapons are worthwhile? Crowbar?

[livid raven]

tactical axe, combat axe

knife

[loud herald]

Dclaw and heavy sword go crazy

[livid raven]

in fact, every weapon but the crowbar

[loud herald]

At least if you build around em

Yeah crowbar is uh, kind of just there

[astral canyon]

And bonesaw

[livid raven]

yeah but that one is at least different

crowbar is a sad imitation of a shovel

[loud herald]

But bonesaw is readyyyyyyy

[rancid gulch]

Really? I like the armor piercing secondary mode

[lost ravine]

crowbar at least does The Funny on crushers

[rancid gulch]

and it's fast

[livid raven]

it's very slow tho?

[lost ravine]

not that slow tbh

[stray mulch]

i like the weapon, but it is kinda bad ngl

it needs more base cleave and attack/animation speed maybe

[livid raven]

you are probably using the talent that gives you attack speed, i suggest you turn it off and try to do horde clears with the heavies

[stray mulch]

the heavy 1 latching makes ppl dislike it it seems

^

[rancid gulch]

not a fan of the moveset of the axe or bonesaw but the heavy sword and dclaw are cool

[stray mulch]

with out the attackspeed the weapon feels terrible

imo

[astral canyon]

Biggest thing crowbar needs is for latch attacks to actually scale with attack speed

[livid raven]

that should be the case for every latch weapon

[astral canyon]

Ye

[stray mulch]

every weapon with latches should get this fixxed

[rancid gulch]

Yeah that must be it, the latch attack is very slow in comparison to normal hits

[livid raven]

the normal hits are slow too

[stray mulch]

i feel like latch attacks and animations should scale with attack speed to some value

[spice cloud]

I honestly dont like em too much in general

[rancid gulch]

Chainaxe is garbo then?

[livid raven]

and the fact you need to switch mode to handle different targets makes it clunky

chainaxe is good

[spice cloud]

I would prefer a powerfull ap bonk

Without latch

[livid raven]

it's just that crowbar is slow and not powerful for it

nor it has good cleave

[spice cloud]

No its good

[rancid gulch]

How do you handle hordes with chain axe? Heavy combo? Light seems like it would struggle

[spice cloud]

Lightspam

Depends on mark

[livid raven]

#veteran-class has a pinned with optimal combos for hordes

and single

[spice cloud]

One has a very sinple moveset with basically heavy strikedowns and then its only vanguard lights

[livid raven]

but basically it's light spam or heavy spam, depending on the mark

with an optional push attack first

[astral canyon]

Mk12 is light spam mk4 is heavy spam and PA

[spice cloud]

Not vamguard the other one

[lost ravine]

vanguardium leviosa

[rancid gulch]

Oh huh the Chainaxe drop I got was a mark 4 but apparently the mark 12 is default? Didn't know you could get alternates without leveling

[lost ravine]

(sends heretics flying)

[rancid gulch]

\

[lost ravine]

ah yes, the old chainaxe

[spice cloud]

Yes you can just change the mark whenever

[rancid gulch]

What's the best adrenaline frenzy modifier? Smiter, assassin, default?

[unreal stirrup]

weapon specific

notably assassin let you have adrenaline active while fighting carapace pack and bossing

smiter is pretty much just for horde clear

[rancid gulch]

Makes sense, slower weapons probably benefit from smiter more

[unreal stirrup]

biggest difference is time it take to startup

[lost ravine]

i like 20s adrenaline with the passive toughness

[jovial heron]

Don’t need 20s if you have smiter

[lost ravine]

either way i am spending a talent point, and smiter would not activate on bosses

solution? chemdep

[jovial heron]

Yeah I run chem dep right now too. The crit chance seems to skyrocket my damage in addition to proccing the toxin on crit more

[lost ravine]

chemdep just too stacked to skip tbh

cdr, damage, TDR

it good

[jovial heron]

I mean it might take a while to activate on the boss even without smiter. Regardless no boss exists outside of a horde. Kill the horde farming up adrenaline and hyperviolence than pop the boss

[jovial heron]

I think on high finesse weapons it’s hard to say no

[torpid cloud]

I do wanna mess with chemdep on taxe

Bonus that rampage will be up every 20ish seconds

[flat mist]

Yeah smiter is just objectively better. You'll average ~20-30% higher uptime. 60% to 90% on a lot of my data points.

[jovial heron]

Agreed

[flat mist]

One of the most stark, argument finishing results from the Uptime mod

[jovial heron]

Lmao yeah the key is being able to stack while adrenaline is up

[flat mist]

Its all well and good to say you've got a fast attacking weapon but 15-20 hits (depending on crit) is a lot when you're fighting to stay alive in havoc

[jovial heron]

Exactly it makes sense possibly on a high cleave but middling damage weapon

[astral canyon]

tbf on shivs i imagine you can still rack up adrenaline stacks really quickly without smiter

thanks to all the obscene amounts of attack speed scum gets

[flat mist]

Yeah but even then its excelling in a horde, the exact opposite of the "hole" they're trying to plug

[jovial heron]

Yeaaaaaa

I think adrenaline and the vulture stuff needs some work. Just not quite there. One of the subnodes needs to be part of base

[flat mist]

Sometimes you have to be cautious, you're not just spamming m1 into bodies for 5s straight

But all the arguments dont matter, Uptime has the answer

[jovial heron]

https://tenor.com/view/jerry-rick-and-morty-true-gif-18268523

[astral canyon]

uptime

more like

UwUptime

[lost ravine]

your empirical evidence is naught before my feelscraft

[lilac schooner]

ive tried adrenaline and chem dep, chem is more consistently useful on havoc

adrenaline feels really like glass cannoney

[flat mist]

Idk, if i feel like a glass cannon then just 15% TDR isn't gonna change that

Ooh i got overkilled slightly less

[lilac schooner]

it does

[jovial heron]

I mean 20% from Hive City, 20% from chem dep 4, 25% rampage….

It ain’t nothing

[zenith pagoda]

Yeah smiter is the only node you need on adrenaline

20s is nice for boss fights though

[flat mist]

Well yeah that's more than 15% haha

[jovial heron]

The math is mathing yes

Haha

[astral canyon]

what about the meth

is it mething

[jovial heron]

I wonder if it’s triggering for the arbites to watch the criminal just casually shooting up like 50 times a mission

[stray mulch]

really quick

assasin on shivs is pref imo

[bronze glade]

assassin is shit

[flat mist]

Its only triggering bc the cop has to wait until after his shift to shoot up

OR

Yeah triggering his gun to shoot up an innocent black guy

[jovial heron]

https://tenor.com/view/it-got-too-real-walking-dead-too-real-rick-grimes-gif-21702762

[flat mist]

Sorry, sorry ill cool it down a bit... by getting some ICE!!

[jovial heron]

https://tenor.com/view/parks-and-rec-ron-swanson-computer-trash-garbage-gif-21878872

[lost ravine]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/720763953449271308/844484817890705428/CatCheck-1.gif

[little laurel]

So.... I am trying to do a Ranged build....but I don't think you can use the chem dependency anymore with the desperado right? there is soo many good nodes on top of the tree. it just gets rid of all the choices, with only 30 talent points

With Dualies....I am just stuck on this. Which sadly, means I cannot take Street Tough, or even any of the extra blitz

[bronze glade]

you don't need so many points up top and mid

and you can drop vultures push or whatever it's called

there's a good amount of things you could move around

[lost ravine]

don't need timeout don't need sticky hands don't need slippery don't need jittery

but i would recommend precision violence and swift endurance since i assume you cannot just shoot things

[flat mist]

Do the dualies have a good enough finesse modifier to justify weakspot damage, unless you're a god?

Also ranged dodge seems unneccesary

[torpid cloud]

It's comfy

I haven't tried new ranged scum yet, I really liked it when cutpurse procced on ranged kill, but it was pretty busted

[livid raven]

Dual stubs?

Oh wrong reply, but if it's dual stubs then yeah i think so

If it's dual uzi, no

[bronze glade]

yeah i'd skip sweetspot

for uzis

[hybrid jay]

it doesnt work with chem dep btw

[astral canyon]

dual stubs yes, specially the spin shot

[livid raven]

do we know the dual stubs finesse multiplier

i'd imagine it's at least 1.5 for normal shots and higher than 2 with trickshot

[astral canyon]

btw one question

how exactly do the finesse multiplier stack for crit weakspot hits

[low harbor]

if no crit mod,
base dmg x(1+finesse mod)

so for example

if atk does 100 dmg and finesse mod = 1.5

[jovial heron]

I think it’s broken right now.

[low harbor]

crit weakspot should be 100x(1+1.5) = 250 dmg

this is assuming no crit mod in effect

[livid raven]

wouldn't 250 be the number of a crit or a weakspot hit

[low harbor]

crit mod is quite complicated and I have no plans to include them in guide

[low harbor]

no, those get reductions
only crit-weakspot uses the finesse number in full value (assuming no crit mod)

[astral canyon]

wait but then what about crit and non-weakspot or weakspot and non-crit

[low harbor]

crit/weakspot would (usually) be
100x(1+1.5x0.6) = 100x(1+0.9) = 190 dmg

there're many exceptions to this rule because finesse is a curve thing

it's complicated

I can give u a more practical example

plasma gun hipfire has a base dmg of 606.375, with finesse mod = 0.5

on weakspot/crit, it will do 606.375 x (1+0.5x0.6) = 606.375 x (1+0.3) = 788.2875 dmg

[river skiff]

Wdym?

[low harbor]

whereas on crit-weakspot, it will do 606.375 x (1+0.5) = 909.5625 dmg

[low harbor]

yes because it's a finesse weapon

esp for crit

it almost has like, built-in deadly accurate

[muted pivot]

So we just flat out don't have Sample Collector now? Feels like blackouts are a bit worse as a result

[low harbor]

we do?

[astral canyon]

wdym?

[low harbor]

it's at the top

[muted pivot]

I might have just missed it entirely lmao

[woeful hill]

https://tenor.com/view/simple-shrimple-shrimple-gif-its-really-that-shrimple-not-so-shrimple-now-gif-26259869

[muted pivot]

Oh damn it's just more or less free now lmao

Still feels harder to go chem dep than it was before but idk, will try to reform my shivs build again

[tranquil fjord]

they removed gang tough, but added the stim talents as mandatory tax talents

[livid raven]

which is wild

[tranquil fjord]

no one was taking them anyways

[livid raven]

which is why it's wild

making two dogshit talents mandatory instead of, i dunno

making them do something

even crazier if you go crate

[astral canyon]

also means you need to take an extra talent tax if you want to run gunslinger+crate or anarchist+desperado

[zenith pagoda]

Yeah

The funniest part is the corruption one is on the STIM SUPPLY side

[livid raven]

yeah that's just diabolical

so diabolical i can't even start to imagine what the playtesters told them

[reef spoke]

the random point tax is annoying but Hivescum did get a built in +25 toughness node

so I suppose it balances out

[livid raven]

i mean, that's because you lost the node that gave you 10% toughness resist and 10% ranged damage

[reef spoke]

indeed, but that's 1 point freed up in my eyes

[zenith pagoda]

Yeah but every class has those nodes, and I would rather my tax node is 25 toughness than that lol

[livid raven]

i just think making you choose between two absolutely useless talents is just dishonest

[reef spoke]

yeah certainly not an ideal design

[livid raven]

could have easily been two minor nodes like "+5% ranged damage" and "5% melee damage"

would have been less pathetic

[reef spoke]

would have been nice if something normally annoying to get but potentially useful was there instead

like the "+1 blitz charge" talent

[zenith pagoda]

I would love it if it was gain health instead

[reef spoke]

or +stamina lol

[zenith pagoda]

And the left one could be, when an ally uses a stim, get your stim back

Or, when an ally uses a stim, gain the benefits of that stim too

Name "shared needle"

[manic wolf]

I think it was ilas who mentioned it yesterday that Sample Collector should have been the center node in that row

An he's right, that would have been so much better

[astral canyon]

yes it was me

you can tell it was my idea because it was an amazing idea

[tranquil fjord]

because sample collector was moved and is now a mandatory talent (best in slot tax),

youre essentially down for a point if you want to take chem dependency

and another if you still want to take nimble or jittery

[manic wolf]

Its not a mandatory pick at all, its just kinda there

[pale trench]

It's only not mandatory if you aren't using the cartel special or your build functions fine with the super short cool down you have if you are.

On all my melee builds it's mandatory. On my one Desperado build it isn't

It's like a Sol Ring. You're really shooting yourself in the foot if you don't use it, but I can see some rare and specific cases where you wouldn't want to.

[tranquil fjord]

i mean that they introduced more point tax if you wanted to take chemical dependency

[flat mist]

You're not down a point, you just have to choose something above chem depandancy instead of getting gang tough. And if you're making a melee build thats pretty much guaranteed to be an upgrade

And three of those choices are virulent, splash and pocket toxin - all good nodes depending on build

You are kind of shafted if you want to take +1 grenade for rpg or chem grenade but DONT want coated weaponry and arent running bonesaw or needle pistol because then virulent and pocket toxin are pretty dead nodes

Tldr; its almost always an upgrade lol

[plain badge]

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[bronze glade]

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[zenith pagoda]

This is me btw

[bronze crown]

I think Hive Scum is the only class for me. I played Zealot at launch and leveled to 30 but then fell off after The Karnak Twins. I wasn't that good with Zealot but HS synergizes well with my ADHD and fits my style. However I want to play dress up with my virtual action figure and there are no reward cosmetics for the the new missions. Must I go on a multi month long Obscura bender until a new update finally plus me back into the Emperor's light?

[reef spoke]

fun detected, removing pickpocket next update

[manic wolf]

Ughh... please let it happen

[woeful hill]

<@&735928989146939404> automod didnt catch

account got stolen

[flat mist]

@woeful hill do you have an upload of your SG WS trauma build. I checked most of your videos but contracted autism part way through

[sly sedge]

what's the best melee for rotten armor? was running rampage chem dependency with tacaxe and while all enemies were a walk in the park and even regular carapace too, when it comes to rotten armor waves I could barely tickle them, crit after crit and I barely get them below 80% health

does stacking uncanny help at all?

[naive briar]

https://tenor.com/view/scottish-demo-tf2-demoman-gif-gif-27403588

[main wagon]

Look who I found

[astral canyon]

Woaw

[main wagon]

Was a gud gaem

[woeful hill]

was this

[main wagon]

Doing some Grindpoint Kappa runs

We walked out with 3905

[mighty belfry]

i do have to say

blessed stimms is a nice qol

[bronze glade]

could be worse as taxes go

tho kinda annoying it's on the way to stimm supply lmfao

[astral canyon]

Ye its pretty much a dead node for crate

[bronze glade]

rampage stays winning

[main wagon]

I get to take long lasting for desperado triple barrel 🙂

At first I was upset about having to take it and sample collector but now after using it for a bit...

https://tenor.com/view/thegoon-bigoldgoon-ted-lasso-pretty-good-that’s-pretty-good-gif-1660849329654344836

[eager reef]

triple barrel is so goofy ngl

i get why it works in game

but it's so funny

[sudden thunder]

two of the best hive scum names i've seen: Two-Grams-Of-Krak and Tyrone-Bigums

[mint birch]

Guyss i cant read patch notes im restarted

Is the needle pistol ammo nerfed?

[woeful hill]

no

[mint birch]

oh ok

[flat mist]

I meant a vid of the build six has details of in the bonanza

[woeful hill]

ah

dont think I did make one

the closest would be my H40 duo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aCgA8Wm72E&t=761s

this but I use gaze

[flat mist]

Yeah i watched that earlier, nice stuff

[warm cypress]

Made a build that I've been loving recently, lmk if you like it or hate it and call me slurs in my DMs

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a15d204c-419e-4500-98a8-9cc7366330ab/oogabooga-one-shot-scum

[flat mist]

Can i call you slurs here?

[warm cypress]

I'd be honored if you did

[flat mist]

Cos you didnt take street tough you fkn... pooface

[warm cypress]

Eww

Stinky talent

[unreal stirrup]

what is this build

😭

dependency shiv?

[flat mist]

Seriously though imagine this but you just take riposte instead of a shit blessing since that also provides you 20% chance to oneshot human sized enemies since a heavy crit from shivs pretty much always reaches that threshold

[warm cypress]

Free crit

[unreal stirrup]

HAYMAKER?

[flat mist]

The build is actually fine besides haymaker and no street tough lol

[unreal stirrup]

me looking at 75s stim on non crate build

also slippery customer is kinda meh

[warm cypress]

I don't take the bottom left side personally