psyker-class

[glossy ember]

or something else

[pale prairie]

They killed quell canceling on LMB

[strong gulch]

SG now quells on activation (including saving you from exploding). BCoB also quells more.

SG peril gen ramps up the longer your stay in it. So you def feel changes.

[pale prairie]

Whoops that’s my mistake

[glossy ember]

F

[pale prairie]

I meant bubble melee build with right side DD

[glossy ember]

at least they didn't kill the nade swap on surge rmb as far as i see

[proper echo]

What are ideal curios to run for psyker? 2 tough 1 stamina or hp?

[glossy ember]

ohh i see

[pale prairie]

Yeah you can quick blitz to animation cancel RMB on surge

[marble crater]

There is no ideal, a lot of it is preference

[strong gulch]

LMB QC is still on assail tho

[pale prairie]

HERESY

[marble crater]

Some people like stamina, others flame the people who like stamina

[pale prairie]

look going all stamina and no KD is like wearing a raincoat but no pants

[glossy ember]

poggers

[strong gulch]

Whatever works for you. The gen rec for curios in maels and lower is 201 hp and x1 sniper resist. That lets you eat a sniper shot and multiple bursters. How you get there is up to you.

Or just run what you want.

[marble crater]

See, there is the first flamer

[pale prairie]

Give me a sec finding my pitchfork and torch

[strong gulch]

QQ is still alive too

[glossy ember]

damn masteries is new to me too

[pale prairie]

No more praying to god to roll the level 4 blessings you just get them as you level the weapon

[strong gulch]

If you do a PA heavy build, I do rec a +3 stam curio. Make sure it's 410 or higher; otherwise it's +2 in a live mission.

[glossy ember]

remind me, do stacks from one weapon like Riposte or Smackdown transfer to the other weapon/nade if you quick swap

[glossy ember]

hell yeah

[pale prairie]

The weapon crafting system got super overhauled to be way less Gacha

[strong gulch]

Ye, if you want up to date left side tree staff builds, there's some in the 3rd pin. Abbreciations for possibly new stuff in the 2nd pin.

[hushed egret]

a raincoat is pretty effective without pants actually

all you really lose by dropping KD is goated boss blocking. you still need KD to reliably block Daemonhosts and Plagueryn stomp/charge without ever running out of stamina, but stamina curios will cover blocking everything else and also buff your speed

[glossy ember]

thanks

[pale prairie]

Notice I said ALL STAMINA CURIOS not just 1 or even 2

[strong gulch]

OH

WU (warp unbound) is for real fixed

[hushed egret]

I was internally referencing all stamina curios myself, though I kept my message vaguer to include less

[pale prairie]

And for my purposes KD is necessary in high difficulties where multiple bosses do occur. But everyone can run what they want. I am still gonna say the guy running around with no pants is funny looking

[thorn cedar]

A meaningless fix due to months of baked in trauma forcing me to play around its original flaw.

[pale prairie]

At least crystalline Will is working perfectly

Honestly needs to be nerfed

[strong gulch]

You learned a lesson.

I... I did not.

[hushed egret]

I did havoc 35 with 3 stamina curios and no KD after removing KD for the first time in havoc. the loss wasnt very notable though I havent encountered enough situations to stress test the limits. I imagine it's still weaker than KD, but 2 extra skill points for 50% dodge duration was pretty good for my build

[strong gulch]

"Surely I'll remember next time."

next time

fecking explodes from WU bug 🤯

[hushed egret]

what's warp unbound again?

[hearty wolf]

INFINITE PERIL

BOOM

BOOM

BOOM

[hushed egret]

[pale prairie]

Well it sounds like you have fun so that’s dope. Again I like the fact KD alone with ER allows me to go 3 toughness curios and survive SOME hits in havoc 40

And boss tank

[pale prairie]

The muscle memory strikes again

[strong gulch]

more like completely forget

Muscles memory did feck me up earlier when I didn't take WU

[pale prairie]

“I am forgetting something…..” clutches head and explodes

[pale prairie]

Braver than me. I never took it cause I knew myself too well

[glossy ember]

are weapon stats upgradable or is that still an rng thing

[strong gulch]

You still have to gamble for a proper base, BUT you can increase the stats to the max number under the stats. So [10/60} to [60/60}.

[glossy ember]

ohhh

is 80 still the cap?

[strong gulch]

Ye

80 is the cap and 60 is the dump

[glossy ember]

sick, gotta thank past me for farming for good bases

very glad i kept this mess in my inventory lmao

[gray juniper]

Tbh I think it’s the dumbest thing to exist and it’s a shame it takes up that spot lower in the tree when something more useful could be reached there

[strong gulch]

You no longer have to forever deal with hadron only ever giving you terrible barrage.

[pale prairie]

Oh yeah I am being completely facetious. It makes no sense on a class that can only get more wounds by curios

[spice oar]

If they reworked it to being like a “if you kill x amount of dudes you get x amount of health back” it’d be niche at least

[pale prairie]

Like literally just get one of the two abilities that vent

[gray juniper]

Like it’s probably a good safety net for new players to hold on and not go down instead of dying outright because they don’t get picked up, but it assumes a lot in doing that

[pale prairie]

I mean you have two abilities that vent now

Just use those

[spice oar]

Now if you wanna talk dumbest talent ever, the venting shriek left talent that adds 100 base damage to the shriek is right there

[pale prairie]

Yeah it needs a +1

[gray juniper]

Then again it would be stepping on zealots toes. Fatshark isn’t doing the best at diversifying these talent concepts

[pale prairie]

Wait wait wait. It scales UP TO 200

What you gotta say now you scrub? Thats a 100% increase

[spice oar]

Literally WHY does it exist

We could’ve had ANYTHING

[pale prairie]

Honestly I have no idea

[glossy ember]

good times of getting 4 useless things

is terrible barrage still terrible

did they not change it in any way

[spice oar]

Just pick surge

[pale prairie]

I think they did some math on how often players could shriek with total cooldown focus and got scared

[spice oar]

It’s god on electro staff cause of its high grit

Crit

[strong gulch]

still terrible

[pale prairie]

And yet creeping flames exists

[spice oar]

It’s the exact same thing just dot makes ZERO sense

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/shark-fish-pizza-gif-8070745

[glossy ember]

surge + warp nexus and never RMB then?

[pale prairie]

“Yeah but but uuuuh dots are slower so it uh feels less crazy”

[spice oar]

And immediate damage would be in its own lane too, maybe with an added effect like “enemies hit temporarily treat all damage as warp damage”

[strong gulch]

No. That's LMB spam

[glossy ember]

sounds cozy

[spice oar]

Lmao no, but it makes it a 50/50 LMB and RMB staff

Really nice feel to it

The two staff talents on the left middle side compliment it well

[glossy ember]

i think i'd miss warp flurry too much though

oh yeah those are new

[spice oar]

I keep it, kicks ass

[pale prairie]

You definitely miss it on high difficulties

[strong gulch]

You can thank the LMB QC folk abusing a macro for why we don't have QC on staff anymore.

[glossy ember]

[gray juniper]

Wait then. What are you guys putting on electric staff for right fire use?

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/crucify-cross-crucified-gif-10036081

[strong gulch]

flurry nexus

[gray juniper]

Damnit so it’s peaked as is then

[pale prairie]

All hail potato bean

[glossy ember]

ol' reliable flurry nexus

never fails

[pale prairie]

Yeah just need to add the “Git Gud” node and you can’t be beaten

[strong gulch]

Blazeaway + nexus is meta on purg / inferno tho

[gray juniper]

My ear to the ground of the chat was hearing rumblings that weren’t there. No better oasis awaits EK fandom

[jovial juniper]

Nexus Surge

[strong gulch]

A hail of potatoes and beans

[jovial juniper]

I NEED that 5%

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-meme-i-need-it-gif-14006288

[gray juniper]

We’re know how serious you are on your particulars

[pale prairie]

I am trying to figure out if Warp Battery ever gets up to 6 when vents cooldown ends up being like 12 sec

[glossy ember]

did they ever fix this node btw or is it still broken

[pale prairie]

Where is my duplicated surge lightning

[gray juniper]

Tater was right explaining to me there’s no point

[pale prairie]

Fixed but doesn’t affect dodging ranged

[gray juniper]

I fought and fought but in the end, the bean was right again

[strong gulch]

One of surge's + EK's RMB strengths is it's speed

[glossy ember]

[pale prairie]

On what?

[glossy ember]

so it's only to dodge melee?

well, better than not working at all

[gray juniper]

Warp battery

[strong gulch]

It was never broken, just a misunderstanding of how it worked.

[glossy ember]

ohhh

[gray juniper]

If you’re not venting that much you’re wasting your own time

[glossy ember]

to be fair it doesn't exactly tell you "melee"

[pale prairie]

It adds more I frames to dodge. The distance and amount of time is the same though. Welcome to dark souls. If you have empathic evasion it’s pretty goated together

[pale prairie]

What if I am venting all the time because I have EK staff

[glossy ember]

i'll give it a whirl

[strong gulch]

The dodge increase was smol. Relative vs absolute change kinda thing.

[hushed egret]

dodge duration against melee is pretty goated tbh. particularly in havoc, where overheads are instakills

[gray juniper]

What exactly does this mean? I need a translation

[hushed egret]

iframes = invincibility frames
it's the duration you cant be hit

[pale prairie]

So part of the dodge has I frames and part of it doesn’t this increases the number of I frames

[verbal thistle]

well

about that

[gray juniper]

I’m agreeing with you. Venting constantly is the way to play and buying that node is cheapijg yourself on something else

[jovial juniper]

Btw Arby's have a worse version of anticipation

When the class is so......

[pale prairie]

But doesn’t it come off at 3 sec faster instead? I really need to test this

[pale prairie]

Mid?

[gray juniper]

Wait a minute. Which end of the dodge has these frames? It’s near the beginning I assume?

[hushed egret]

technically the beginning, though you need to add your ping to that time since you have to dodge attacks from the servers pov not your own

[pale prairie]

I am not sure it’s either beginning or somewhere in the middle. It’s hard to tell cause it’s literal FRAMES

[radiant frigate]

correct

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/pfft-trying-not-to-laugh-laughing-holding-laugh-covering-laugh-gif-10899551814881068905

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/shes-back-hello-gif-27609676

[gray juniper]

It’s pretty tight and situational. You get a damage increase for this but it’s kind of irrelevant because you’re working in EK secondaries and peril is up anyway, yea?

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-worry-listening-worth-it-hey-girl-not-my-fault-gif-13765521

[gray juniper]

I’m on borrowed time then so I’ll just skip this one

[pale prairie]

Yeah forget the damage I am wondering if I am gonna be able to get charges fast enough to be able to get the cooldown on shriek from 14 sec down to like 11 sec

[pale prairie]

Yeah I am scared I’ll like it too much and never be able to go back. Like EE

[radiant frigate]

missed me?

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/home-alone2lost-in-new-york-we-all-do-kevin-mccallister-christmas-christmas-movies-gif-19568171

[marble crater]

You were gone?

[gray juniper]

I never went without psy’s aura AND seer’s presence AND in fire reborn so it was always fast ass hell. Idk fam idk. If you test lmk

[pale prairie]

She made a big thing about leaving for a bit cause there were trolls and baiters

[hearty wolf]

Kat literally is a troll

[gray juniper]

Master baiters even

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/mitch-marner-dude-are-you-what-are-you-doing-what-are-you-doing-what-are-you-up-to-nhl-all-star-skills-competition-gif-27514606

[marble crater]

He is out of line, but he is right

[pale prairie]

This is with an EK no purgatus for me so it might be different

[radiant frigate]

i was briefly gone yeah

when the trolls invaded

[radiant frigate]

i did not make a big thing of it

i merely excused myself

the discourse was.. not to my liking

[marble crater]

Welcome back, I will kill the trolls in my next BG3 run, for you

[radiant frigate]

god bless

[radiant frigate]

elaborate

[marble crater]

Bless the Absolute

[pale prairie]

Nah nah nah there was a huge dramatic exit

[gray juniper]

I can see what you mean. EK was the first and only staff I was actually good at before coming here. Lil ol’ me found out it synergized with vent and ran with it. The rest of the tree was assed up, but I was never suffering for vent. I did use warp battery too tho. Beans made a point I didn’t need it and vent still came quick. It’s been a minute so lmk what testing produces 🫡

[gray juniper]

A palate for refined banter. I don’t blame you at all

[marble crater]

EK is the bestes staff

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/minthara-bg3-baldur's-gate-3-lock-in-minthara-baenre-gif-3097128815049976516

[gray juniper]

I’d die so hard trying to take it into high havoc now

[pale prairie]

Yeah I saw Unsanctioned using it and it got me wondering. I mean there is no shortage of targets in auric and maelstrom let alone havoc the issue is how long it takes to get enough flames out so that stacks come back quick/KF

[gray juniper]

Probably not hard at all. Maybe it’s actually pretty viable. I only took it into havoc 25 and floundered, but I was using a shit made illisi with it

[marble crater]

Honestly one of the main reasons I am starting a new evil playthrough, her and my female Drow will do things

[pale prairie]

I mean to test it. Today was house cleaning day so haven’t been on at all

[gray juniper]

Nice

I’m on vacay with nephews and son

[strong gulch]

did you finish?

the game

[marble crater]

No

[radiant frigate]

i love minthara, she's the best

[marble crater]

I will play both campaigns now, ideally more of the first to finish that

I'm doing things in the city, things would be easier if I didn't keep all these quest givers alive

[strong gulch]

From the clips I've seen of minthara, she says wild but somehow based things and is somehow more well adjusted than the other characters.

[radiant frigate]

Yes

she also has a habit of calling the other companions "child"

[marble crater]

Drow superiority complex goes hard

[pale prairie]

She was super paper thin in the beginning but enough patches have come out that she is interesting now with a very different perspective from the rest. She comes from this really abusive and murdery society and actually ends up having a big soft spot if you take the time. She still wants to rule the world of course

[spice oar]

i load into this maelstrom:

4 monstosities spawn in the start of the mission, two with the nurgles blessing

[radiant frigate]

she's also extremely loyal

[spice oar]

like 1 weakened

[strong gulch]

So above ground drow af

[spice oar]

meanwhile last game was piss easy

godamm

director

[radiant frigate]

and microdoses you with poison when you romance her, to make you more resistant to it in case you visit menzoberranzan

it's adorable

[pale prairie]

Yeah turns out she never really liked drow society because of how isolating the backstab nature of it was and so finding trustworthy companions I think really makes her happy

[marble crater]

Average maelstrom, I think people talked about that recently, crazy at the start and then normal spawns

[radiant frigate]

"wait what do you mean you're not plotting to murder me in my sleep"

and boom now you're besties

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/best-freaking-friends-forever-best-friends-besties-bff-love-you-gif-17059524

[radiant frigate]

she brings 200 years of experience in shittalking, murder, and avoiding being murdered

truly marvelous

[pale prairie]

And all the TRAUMA that goes along with it

[radiant frigate]

brought to you by the woman that says "my mother taught me how to kill, i hope to repay her someday by teaching her to die"

absolutely FLAMING line

[upper sun]

wait for position in queue
no one joins strike team

CAN WE PLEASE FIX QP

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-man-no-man-no-gif-7347715096894588969

[pale prairie]

My favorite line is: “In Menzobarranzan after a house has two sons, every subsequent male-born child is slaughtered at birth, as it is useless, even for breeding. You have the aura of a third child about you.”

[gray juniper]

Yea AI is drunk driving and Swedes are on vacation

[spice oar]

STILL btw

[radiant frigate]

[pale prairie]

Gale is my favorite character cause I just love wizards

[gray juniper]

I keep telling the pub randos, if you can’t handle maelstrom leagues, stay in the kiddie pool aurics

[radiant frigate]

gale is such a nerd

[gray juniper]

Let me guess. 1-2 front liners charge ahead, bosses show up. One goes down, another goes down, then another goes down, you’re fighting 5 bosses. Yea?

[strong gulch]

Gale is funny but ultimately gets under my skin.

[gray juniper]

Every bosses maelstrom has had the same tune lately @old egret

it starts and people move like it’s going to be easy. The bosses spawn and the dominoes fall. You may try to keep one or two of them up but they die anyway. Basically you vs all the bosses. Sound right?

[pale prairie]

I am too so I self insert lmao

He has a fucking magic library with a talking cat and lots of coffee, tea, booze, and books. That’s the dream

[pale prairie]

Yeah he’s not for everyone

[radiant frigate]

and when you romance him, he treats you like divinity

[strong gulch]

That's didn't work out well for Mithra did it?

[radiant frigate]

live and learn

[paper oriole]

Mithara is fine but feels a bit lacking compared to other companions

I felt she was a bit behind in depth compared to others

[pale prairie]

She was a late edition she feels much more finished now

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/minthara-minthara-bg3-minthy-minthy-bg3-bg3-gif-8080327748630034918

[hearty wolf]

More battlefield or do we play Darktide

[paper oriole]

I played a year after release 🤷‍♂️

[spice oar]

Nah, straight up we go into the first room and 4 of them just show up one after the other, with nurgles blessing as well, and some of us get isolated cause of a plague ogryn pinning them down etc

[paper oriole]

I mean, I get that but it is a bit sour-y taste of dark urge
Feels like you are getting subpar content a lot of time

[spice oar]

I got swallowed and spat out the map

[pale prairie]

There are multiple companions to fit all sorts of players.

[hearty wolf]

@tulip kettle is you alive famalamadingdong

@ripe obsidian

[fluid knot]

Purp Psyker (the stealthiest kind)

[paper oriole]

I mean, it is fine
I am just a grump old man who compares games a lot and the “evil path” is a bit lack laster 😭

I am creator of my bad mood 🙁

[spice oar]

Damm what armor piece is that?

[fluid knot]

Which bit? The purple one is in cosmetic shop atm, eyepiece was a while back

[spice oar]

Ah gotcha gotcha

The purple gear that’s all

[ripe obsidian]

Why am I summoned

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/of-mayhem-summon-the-strenght-gif-1156318320476699448

[jovial juniper]

Why are you ourple

[hearty wolf]

dnd? game?

[strong gulch]

I deleted my purple build after WU got fixed. It had wounds and CW.

also purple outfit

[tulip kettle]

i could do 1 or 2...

i have garden + toll for maximum yellow number chasing

[woeful sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-tickle-cat-tickle-chuddyfan-thomas-jefferson-gif-15541031946739484981

[upper sun]

🚬 new hair styles when

[fluid knot]

Because stealth

Orks told me so

[hearty wolf]

https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1030392603029557308

[woeful sigil]

I just want long hair I don't want a skrillex cut

[hearty wolf]

Team assemble

[strong gulch]

@hearty wolf @ripe obsidian @tulip kettle If y'all play and don't mind streaming in a strike party, I'll watch.

[tulip kettle]

join us

[woeful sigil]

give me the emperor's hair

[strong gulch]

If not, no worries

[hearty wolf]

You were auto invited

[strong gulch]

Oh!. I didn't know lmao

[woeful sigil]

I'm gonna go to da store, I gotta cook dindins

[upper sun]

poor vet very underpowered 😭

buff vet

[hearty wolf]

WE NEED ONE MORE FOR HAVOC 40

[upper sun]

i need to SLEEP

[hearty wolf]

:(

[jovial juniper]

as vet can deal with everyone on their own

It's called grenade uncanny spam

https://tenor.com/view/fist-of-the-north-star-hokuto-no-ken-hey-as-long-as-it-works-as-long-as-it-works-winging-it-gif-5037582307183355084

[radiant frigate]

"I'm not arbites" weakest excuse ever seen

[strong gulch]

@ripe obsidian play?

[hearty wolf]

@ripe obsidian SIX

Five

four..

https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1162145458114801725

he's typing

[ripe obsidian]

Sorry, I am not getting notifications from Discord. How long will you be playing?

[hearty wolf]

Aw

Uh

Idk

We still have space

[strong gulch]

a couple

at least

[ripe obsidian]

I'm not available at the moment, but depending on how long you go, I might be

[hearty wolf]

oki

[junior gust]

Closest thing to that would be a vet with the plasma gun maybe?

[weary idol]

https://imgur.com/a/YzYeU9s it is tho

you usually see it filled by plasma gun vets

you kill the specialists/gunners before they become a problem

[patent jacinth]

That’s like 25

[flat nexus]

no kyap boggory carried my azz

[pale panther]

sniping
kek, that's more like being a designated marksman in a cqb exercise.

[patent jacinth]

Still a valuable role in higher end content

[rigid iris]

do the greatsowrds have any difference in damage on their special

[patent jacinth]

No

[ripe obsidian]

Those are big damage numbers.

[strong gulch]

@ripe obsidian ready?

[gray juniper]

Yea that makes sense too. Shortest maelstrom awards lol

[hearty wolf]

@ripe obsidian :)

[ripe obsidian]

One moment

@tulip kettle @strong gulch 5 curios

[strong gulch]

wtf

I think it's going well.

[dense flume]

that happened to me the other day. chaos spawn chucked me through the roof, apparently

[strong gulch]

[ripe obsidian]

I tried.

[flat nexus]

was duo so gonna be bigged

[jovial juniper]

When you're arbitrating it with your lexmate and the savant telepathically tells you to take a tactical approach, hit it from behind

https://tenor.com/view/внушение-gif-1755270533770112857

[tulip kettle]

also

H1-H2 on DS is noticeably better than H1 - S

really felt it that game

[ripe obsidian]

It is better if your Uncanny is stacked

Like 20% more damage

It is slightly worse if going from 0 stacks and the enemy dies on the 5th or 6th hit

[hearty wolf]

I think the mastery skin on the bolt pistol might be the culprit

Like the iron sights are better but it fucks with the sway or smth

[wispy bay]

H1-S is the combo for DS2, no point to use it on DS4.

[tulip kettle]

i mean there is always a point in so far as staggering stuff is good

[wispy bay]

Yes, but then it's not the combo.

[tulip kettle]

and as six just said its technically a dps loss to not use it vs smaller enemies when uncanny isnt stacked

[wispy bay]

You use the special to stun.

[wispy bay]

Then why don't you use light attacks instead?

[strong gulch]

If you don't have uncanny up H1 S can be better DPS on DS2 and DS4 because it stacks uncanny faster, but one you have stacks heavy spam on DS4 is demonstrably better.

[tulip kettle]

because it doesnt stack uncanny as fast and clinks on carapace which delays you even more

[wispy bay]

You say smaller enemies

[tulip kettle]

by smaller i mean not bosses

[strong gulch]

I think six even tested on a boss, but HP so big.

I could be wrong

I know he tested smaller than monster

[tulip kettle]

anyway i was just saying, i observed changing from defaulting to H1-H2 from H1-S felt demonstrably better to me in the game. Yes im obviously a noob for not doing this earlier.

gnight liabilities.

[hard widget]

is deimos better at killing elites than gs

[verbal thistle]

obscurus is

smh

[hard widget]

I keep switching between force sword and greatswords lol, i cant decide

I change them like every game

what I do know is I prefer the force sword to gs for single target personally

but I kinda like the horde clear gs mark for horde clear

[jovial juniper]

Have yet to see any elite survive a Greatsword

Both are all about those stabs though

[hard widget]

most people like the single target gs better than the horde clear one right? what rotation do you use to clear hordes on the single target gs

i forgot the mark variants

or do you just pull out purge staff/smite

[tulip kettle]

MK 6 is L1-L2 swap cancel

MK8 is L1-L2 block cancel

MK6 is better at killing elites and can 2 shot crushers

[hard widget]

mk8 is the one that has the faster lights right

[tulip kettle]

Mk8 has horizontal lights when block cancelling and MK6 has diagonal ones when swap cancelling, they both have the same speed delay between attacks but the MK8 attack has a slightly longer animation afaik

[spice oar]

What the fuck

[verbal thistle]

obscures has the fastest crusher ttk

[strong gulch]

The initial attack on the 8 is faster afaik on the FGS 8.

[spice oar]

I remember when that thing was the worst one that no one picked

[hard widget]

yeah me 2

everyone loved illisi

[spice oar]

https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-old-man-deltarune-chapter-4-gerson-old-man-gerson-gif-9899296470632859392

[hard widget]

and I think voidblast was the meta staff then

[strong gulch]

I have a slow reaction time, and the time to hit is faster on the L1 for me on FGS 8 vs FGS 6.

[raven mountain]

The mk6 does get horizontal light attack after a push.

It's not insane horde clear, but it's really nice if things are bulked up around you. But if I see it happening, I'm more likely to use the activate sweep to both get a horizontal across their heads, but also get the quick ranged hit stagger.

[hard widget]

how do people build bubble and inferno staff

im using inferno staff, bb, shriek and warp siphon rn

and deimos

[raven mountain]

#psyker-class message

It's basically completely the same.

Just swap out shriek for bubble, if you're using warp charges already.

[hard widget]

Im probably super blind, but that doesnt have a bubble and inferno staff build, although its mentioned, do you just swap shr- right nvm

[raven mountain]

The biggest thing about any bubble build is that you:

A) want cdr (psykinetic aura)
B) want cdr (aura)
C) want cdr (warp charges+charge gen)

[hard widget]

whats charge gen

in fire reborn?

you still take in fire reborn over psychic vampire with bubble right

[tulip kettle]

yes

[strong gulch]

On inferno, yes

[tulip kettle]

literally just build it the exact same but swap shriek for bubble and take the 2 right side bubble nodes

[raven mountain]

Yeah, IFR vs PV is basically just a question of whether or not you have any access to soulblaze.

[hard widget]

cool

[strong gulch]

On fire trauma / VB it's a coin flip.

Anything else take the other one.

[hard widget]

whats the donwnside to the electro staff, I tried the pinned electro staff build recently and it was pretty good

you just gotta take a horde clear melee

[raven mountain]

For me, it's lacking in general clear, and I prefer dots.

[tulip kettle]

in havoc it can struggle to actually kill stuff, then other people get the kill credits, you dont generate enough warp charges, which means you dont have enough dmg, which means you dont get the kill credits...

[hard widget]

to be fair, I only tried it in damnation, i dont remember how the staff is against crushers

[raven mountain]

But it -can- clear if you have mob density, through picking off squishy elites and abusing PC, and as you move up from aurics, it's a bit rougher to get the kills.

[strong gulch]

In maels and lower, EK is very good.

EK is more build and talent dependent than other staves.

[hard widget]

i play in auric mael pretty much, finding havoc parties takes too long smh

[raven mountain]

Idk what the listed EK build is, but I mostly like it with Warp Charges and Shriek to kinda skip handling hordes.

[tulip kettle]

then EK is very good and a lot of fun

shriek creeping flames gives you horde clear

meme builds with SG give you permanent 100 peril casting

[raven mountain]

I do have a warp charge scrier's build that can maintain scrier's Warp Unbound basically infinitely.

Pretty much all the bubble cdr applied to scrier's so I can just shoot lightning from my staff forever.

[hard widget]

I liked playing gun psyker with assail and sg too, it felt different from the other stuff in the game somehow, and sg uptime is insane

it always comes back really fast

[raven mountain]

Yeah, it sucks to lose Psykinetic's, but that's a pretty solid build.

[hard widget]

the only build I found super hard was melee psyker with bubble, mainly because it was really hard to keep peril up

[raven mountain]

Doesn't demand ammo quite as heavily because you can stretch it out with assail

I mean, if you make enough peril to make use of shriek at all, you make enough peril to keep up warp rider with bubble.

[hard widget]

and i run unstable power on the gs too

so I need that peril up

[raven mountain]

Just weave in the occasional special activation.

[hard widget]

yeah thats what I resorted to

I also pulled out voidblast staff sometimes just to generate peril

[tulip kettle]

this will give you permanent uptime on SG/warp unbound

[hard widget]

what loadout is that for

[tulip kettle]

EK

[raven mountain]

And if you're running assail, you can throw one of those sometimes. And the reload speed node can also be used to pause peril through shooting and reloading.

[tulip kettle]

just cast it without stopping from the start of the game to the end

[raven mountain]

That's the infinite unbound peril build

[hard widget]

oh surety of arms is good? I always take the one next to it

assuming gun ofc

[raven mountain]

Good is kinda relative.

It has some specific uses.

[hard widget]

also I remember a decent ish while back anticipation was bugged

[tulip kettle]

it is not bugged.

[raven mountain]

It gives the 30% reload speed on combat shotgun special rounds, but it doesn't add peril. And I use it with bolt pistol because the reload speed feels like such ass, even with animation cancelling. And of course, the specific use I just mentioned where it pauses peril cooldown on reload (best with single-chamber-reload weapons)

[hard widget]

it didnt do one of the things it was supposed to , idr whether that was the extra dodge it didnt give or the duration

[tulip kettle]

it always worked

[raven mountain]

But the other node is really nice for the assured crit, and you can stack it up just by swinging away in melee.

[tulip kettle]

people just didnt understand what it did

[hard widget]

so is it good

[tulip kettle]

its very good on FGS builds

less so on other stuff

[hard widget]

hmm

I should try it on melee build

[raven mountain]

I use surety on my EP assail build, on my dumb shotgun tri-dot build, and with the fgs/bolt pistol build (both shriek and scrier's versions)

[inland ice]

fgs would have ran out of dodges yesterday 😔

[ripe obsidian]

Just steal the Inferno Psyker's soulblaze

Easy.

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-you-did-family-feud-canada-sure-you-did-family-feud-cbc-gif-5390146562310471236

[ripe obsidian]

Or maybe you generously donated the Soulblaze to me

[strong gulch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1004447866250613048/1350220757657059469/Soulblaze_Yummy.gif

[ripe obsidian]

What an appropriate gif

[dull scroll]

I actually switched to deimos for the last 2 days from obscurus then switched back
on normal staff builds deimos' got better defense vs crushers especially when cornered by a mixed horde since a fast two hit guarantees a crusher on the ground to then deal with everything else before it gets back up again
but deimos sucks at one shotting specials unlike obs

if only h1 and h2 gets switched that sword would be god like

[nocturne dust]

I mean, it's pretty simple to time your h2, and most specials will go down to an l1 stab

[dull scroll]

l1 nor h1 one shots dog in40

lights don't one shot flammer nor trapper even in the head

also h1 don't one shot trappers either

[waxen jackal]

To the staff attacks in the mortis trials count as ranged attacks?

Cuz it doesn't seem to give me the right bonuses.

[weary idol]

voidstrike right click, and the left click of everything that isn't inferno staff is a ranged attack

[waxen jackal]

Oh that makes since I was using inferno.

[split lance]

are mods broken

[waxen jackal]

Is there such thing as a melee psyker build? Or are we too squishy for it to make sense

[weary idol]

yes

it's the right tree for psyker

[half pebble]

is it dishonorable to use dueling sword on psyker

like it is on the other classes

[jovial juniper]

We are too squishy and it makes sense

Since that squishy is rewarded with really big fokin damage

[half pebble]

what if I use the non stabby duelling sword, the ones that arent meta? does tht deduct points from my douchebag meter

[waxen jackal]

So just all the right side talents? Cool I might have to give it a try

[plucky flax]

No psyker is og with it

[jovial juniper]

Weapon of choices are

Tactical Axe

Force Greatsword

Knife

Dueling Sword

The funny dclaw (parry only)

[half pebble]

thats why i asked

just wanted to make sure i wasnt being a dork thx

[pale prairie]

Just loaded a QP and I had DH right as I load in somehow

[waxen jackal]

And you just play like a regular melee build pretty much? It just hurts more when you get hit lol

[jovial juniper]

Yeah that's pretty accurate

[waxen jackal]

Ranged choice is just preference?

[jovial juniper]

Pretty much
Although guns are more preferred

[waxen jackal]

Maybe I'll finally level a brauto to bring along

[plucky flax]

Its not too accurate at long range

You might have trouble sniper really far away

[jovial juniper]

It's okay

Assail got that covered

[plucky flax]

When it's longer range than assail right click xd

[jovial juniper]

Ignore it

[plucky flax]

[waxen jackal]

Too bad psyker doesn't have the bolt gun

[jovial juniper]

Out of sight out of mind

[plucky flax]

Tru just wait until teammates kill it

[jovial juniper]

[jovial juniper]

There's the bolt pistol

[plucky flax]

Bistol is good

[jovial juniper]

And the puncture blessing has weird interactions

[strong gulch]

Turn your back on it and say "I'm busy."

[jovial juniper]

[jovial juniper]

Just say no
Snipers aren't allowed to shoot you without your permission

[strong gulch]

[wind wind]

NO MEANS NO

[waxen jackal]

For the melee build, I'm guessing the idea is keep your peril as high as possible so you can get good cleave and the other stuff

[wind wind]

Yes

Scriers gaze go brrrrrrrrrrr

[waxen jackal]

What other guns are fun to use on psyker? I've ever only used the staffs

[wooden sand]

Recon

Anyways Psykers

The 4th place on the class ranking

What yall suggestions for new staffs

[edgy smelt]

just gib bolt staff

[wooden sand]

Noted

[jovial juniper]

Bait used to be believable

Anyways

[wooden sand]

Fatshark will now avoid this suggestion

[jovial juniper]

Electric Staff

[wooden sand]

5th is Veteran

[waxen jackal]

A biomancy staff would be cool, but idk how it would work

[wooden sand]

Then why are you suggesting it

[waxen jackal]

Cuz it was cool in rogue trader lol

[dull scroll]

a staff that can heal/buff other people's toughness, we need a healer build in this game 😏

[wooden sand]

Laugh at him

https://tenor.com/view/themercslaughing-gif-20727637

[jovial juniper]

Just make it replenish toughness instead of hp

Then add tdr on top of it or something

[dull scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/mercy-genji-overwatch-ow2-gency-gif-7037462266396248596

[jovial juniper]

Call it pain attenuation

[wooden sand]

https://tenor.com/view/medic-tf2-coolbonez-made-this-fuck-yalls-healing-tf2-tf2meme-gif-27412156

[weary idol]

I'd rather not have a staff that encourages chorus zealot gameplay

[dull scroll]

if we want more yolo gameplay a "blood magic" staff that drains your toughness on use to do big dmg 😏 😏 😏

[wind wind]

Depends on what youre doing and your skill. Bistol is always good on melee psyker to kill ranged enemies like reapers and elite gunners. Same goes for revolvers

Recon las and vraksian MK five infantry autogun are the mainstay for scriers gaze gunker

Double barrel shotgun can be funny both on a melee and gun based scriers gaze build.

[dull scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/megumin-konosuba-explode-boom-gif-13780914

[granite stratus]

How about biomancy that gives heretics cancer

[waxen jackal]

Or makes their blood boil or something

[wind wind]

Oh, and how could i forget, the las pistol is very well loved in the psyker community for some fucking reason

[waxen jackal]

I might finally try out the recon las. I've seen a lot of people use it but never have

I feel like playing arby has made me significantly worse at this game. I'm slowly getting out of it, but damn

[dull scroll]

and make the special cost hp for an even bigger explosion 😌

[ripe obsidian]

They're Nurgle cultists

They already have cancer

[granite stratus]

Give them super cancer

[pale prairie]

blessed cancer

[ripe obsidian]

There is literally no disease we could give them that's worse than Nurgle's brew

[wind wind]

There are two schools of thought here

A) just brrrrrt down anything you see (which is my school of thought)

B) only brrrrt down enemy specialists and elites and use your melee or blitz on trash

[dull scroll]

inferno staff is pretty much "warp aids"

[waxen jackal]

A staff that takes away the blessing of nurgle so they feel all their diseases.

[ripe obsidian]

A good tactic

[dull scroll]

but aoe debuff/hex like in poe is another idea

[granite stratus]

Send in a skitarii vanguard to have a casual conversation with them

[wind wind]

Happend in lore to some deathguard plague marines. They got cut off from the warp and immediatedly started dying in horrible pain

[waxen jackal]

See that would be sick. Not for them, but for us it would be.

[wind wind]

I dunno where you can read about it. You'd need to ask in #40k-lore-chat or #40k-book-club

[waxen jackal]

For the recon, is dumdum/deathsplitter the way to go?

[dull scroll]

infernus

[waxen jackal]

Instead of deathsplitter?

[dull scroll]

yes

[wind wind]

One possible combo

Some people swear by the burn stacks

[waxen jackal]

And collateral is the dump on it isn't it? I thought I saw that somewhere

[dull scroll]

if you want direct damage go vraks

[wind wind]

Helps again bosses for sure

[dull scroll]

recon's direct dmg is mid at best

[ripe obsidian]

My Beloved would never let us be sick!

[wind wind]

Movement or whatever the stat was. Or collat

[dull scroll]

dump collat on recon

[ripe obsidian]

Collateral is just stagger. Stagger is counterproductive, imo. Makes headshots harder

[strong gulch]

infernus + dumdum with collat dump

on recon

maniac and unyielding

already has good flak ADM

[dull scroll]

that gun has the stagger of a literal flashlight, collat easiest dump ever 😏

[strong gulch]

Recon is often used as a mobility strick for FGS builds anyways

So stagger does doodoo and gun for movement

[wind wind]

I use it to melt everything on my gunker build

I dislike the rise/recoil on the MK v IA

[waxen jackal]

And what about for vrak? Dumdum/deathsplitter?

[wind wind]

I think

[tulip kettle]

I have slept for 3 hours and am now of course fully refreshed

[wind wind]

Consult you local medicae. You may have sleep apnea

[tulip kettle]

Collat on recon also increases supression

So you may choose to dump mobility instead if you use the gun to suppress gunner/reaper packs (because you are bad at clicking on heads and just killing them like me)

[waxen jackal]

Is any particular Mk better than the other for the recon?

[tulip kettle]

And I prefer raking fire for vraks as it gives better boss DPS which is the only reason to choose it over recon

[strong gulch]

Most go for the faster rate of fire recon, think it's the 12. Reason is better uptime for mettle, EE, and infernus.

But choose the one you like the most

[plucky flax]

Use mk12 the fastest firing one

Biggest ammo

[strong gulch]

ye and ammo

[strong gulch]

valid

I'm good at toe shots

[waxen jackal]

I guess I'm gonna try the recon over vrak cuz I just spent like 500k dockets trying to get the right vrak and now I'm pissed lol

[strong gulch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1004447866250613048/1298432898004811786/Rest_in_Peas.gif

[wind wind]

They all work but the fastest firing one is the most popular

[wind wind]

Ooof

[plucky flax]

Hmm should get a desirable dump stat in 500k

[dull scroll]

our guy here dumped half a mil and couldn't get a 60 mobility, must be a world record

[plucky flax]

Check your inventory im sure you'd get it just overlooked

[dull scroll]

actually now I think about it there is a possibility if he's below lvl 30, happened to me when leveling arby, on really low power lvl weapon stats become weird in shop 🤔

[waxen jackal]

I might have overlooked but, it's too late now. On the bright side I leveled my gun

[grand wagon]

Anyone can tell me what ranged weapon goes well with the Dueling Sword? I'm using a Laspistol at the moment.

[ripe obsidian]

Dueling Sword is weak at hordes, so pick an anti-horde weapon.

Inferno staff, Voidblast, Voidstrike is okay in non-Havoc

Maybe combat shotguns? No idea there. Haven't used them on Psyker

Double-barrel can clear hallways

[rancid jasper]

i think "weak" is a bit of a strong word for the duelling sword

ofc hordes aren't its speciality, but it's still really good lol

but yeah i agree with your advice

[ripe obsidian]

Compared with many melee weapons, it's weak at hordes. Something like 3-4 cleave and fairly low damage on lights means horde clear is bleh at best

At least in havoc

In auric and below, it'll do fine

[plucky flax]

Use assails with it for horde clear

Using ds purely as horde clear though is pain even in auric

[grand wagon]

I also use the lightning Warp attack for horde stun.

[fluid knot]

If you're running Smite you should also run the Shock Maul

[rancid jasper]

why

theme?

[fluid knot]

Synergy with the heavy attack node

[rancid jasper]

oh, and the damage vs electrocuted blessing?

[fluid knot]

You got it

[jovial juniper]

The alternative is not running Charged Strike

[rancid jasper]

cant it electrocute anyways though

[fluid knot]

With the special attack yes, however charged strike allows you to proc the full stun much faster than you otherwise would

[rancid jasper]

i thought there was a chance for the normal attacks to do it too

[fluid knot]

You can effectively just remove elites from play for a short time and the damage output isnt insignificant

I've not noticed that myself

Maybe?

[rancid jasper]

maybe its just a visual idk

[fluid knot]

Yeah it applies a visual sometimes for sure, but I don't think the DoT procs outside Charged Strike or the special attack

At least I've not seen it

[rancid jasper]

makes sense

[rancid jasper]

+skullcrusher

[fluid knot]

Yeup

Heavy attack, special, whack until dead

Very safe, surprisingly high damage output

Its a "stand and fight" type weapon tho, it does not have fantastic mobility

[fluid knot]

So uhhh

I just found something out about Charged Strike

It's DoT weakspot hits if procced via weakspot

But only the first one..

[plucky flax]

People use charged strike on serious builds?

[marble crater]

Let people play what they want, you bully

[fluid knot]

I have started to, because its actually kinda goated with shock maul

Also it procs True Aim off this headshotting DoT

Niche, but still

[ripe obsidian]

Are you saying the electrocute DoT counts as headshots? Because if so, that's some extreme spaghetti code.

[fluid knot]

Intermittently procs True Aim sorry

[fluid knot]

Yeah you can see it in the above picture

It also counts as a seperate DoT to the Shock Maul's special attack

Which is even weirder

[ripe obsidian]

I don't see it building True Aim stacks on your screen.

[fluid knot]

I've had several crits from it that havent shown

Swapped to ranged after two headshot procs, 100% crit chance

[ripe obsidian]

I would need to test this myself. I am doubtful

[fluid knot]

Also, strangely, sometimes it shows 17.5 an still crits, which sure could be down to chance, but idk, feels off about its frequency

[ripe obsidian]

What in the world is your build if you have Warp Battery, True Aim, and Charged Strike

[fluid knot]

The stacks from Warp Battery are leftover from when I was messing with skills

Apparently the game doesnt remove them, or EP stacks if you switch keystone

17.5 crit chance, true aim stacks at 5... spaghet

[ripe obsidian]

RMB doesn't work for true aim afaik

It might. I thought it didn't count, though

I've never had True Aim on a Trauma build, so no experience with it

[fluid knot]

Yeah it deffo does work

[marble crater]

I think it does, there is the entire meme build for it without nexus

[ripe obsidian]

Fascinating

[fluid knot]

Im wrong about the dot proccing True Aim tho, thats due to the shock maul poke apparently counting as headshot

[plucky flax]

[fluid knot]

Still, Two DoTs on one weapon, one of the DoT's weakspots

[ripe obsidian]

That makes a lot more sense

[fluid knot]

Fun stuffs

[marble crater]

Deserved for being a bully

[plucky flax]

8 mins of my life gone.

[fluid knot]

Kinda makes me wanna put on True Aim and use fireshotgun with bleed blessing for multistack DoT

[ripe obsidian]

I'd still need to test the weakspot of the DoT. Electrocution should not do that

[fluid knot]

the normal one doesnt

Like from the maul special

Just the one from the skillnode

[ripe obsidian]

Charged Strike should just be regular electrocution

[fluid knot]

Nah, it is apparently its own DoT

Because DoT ticks (with the one from the special attack) start coming through as if the target was double dotted if used after proccing the Charged Strike DoT

[ripe obsidian]

https://github.com/Aussiemon/Darktide-Source-Code/blob/72cde1c088677d22b3830d9681d015167782b10a/scripts/settings/damage/damage_profiles/archetypes/psyker_damage_profile_templates.lua#L558

Reads as damage type: electrocution

[fluid knot]

I think its counted as such, but the damage readout in game doesnt treat it like that

Coz the blessing for it activates on proc, but according to healthbars, it's double ticking, so either the tickrate is faster for Electrocution, or its being treated as a seperate DoT

For whatever reason

I highly doubt the tickrate is ramped up due to multiple applications, because it isnt for burn or soulblaze

Or indeed, bleed damage

[plucky flax]

Ogryn in my last game took 2.6k hp damage. Seems normal.

[hearty wolf]

Zzz

[oak shuttle]

damn that's wack

[plucky flax]

I thought it was just regular dc. But it was extreme dc.

[wind wind]

[delicate hull]

Which weapon combination is the best for practicality for psycher? For general use of course

[plucky flax]

Game mode?

[delicate hull]

Normal game loops??

[marble crater]

Depends on what you want to play, you pick a staff you want to play and then pick a melee weapon to cover the staff's weakness.
For example if you play Elektro, you will pick a melee with horde clear like Illisi force sword, or force greatsword
If you play a staff with good horde clear, like Inferno or Voidblast, you pick a melee with single target damage, like Dueling Sword, Deimos or again force greatsword

[delicate hull]

should any non "psychic" weapon a good suggestion ?

or is it just not fully unlocked your potential playing psycher?

[ornate hamlet]

What if i pick voidblast staff and illisi sword for extra horde clear?

[marble crater]

You can also use a gun if you want, there is an entire build centered around gun and melee instead of staff

[ornate hamlet]

[marble crater]

Then I don't know what you are doing

[ornate hamlet]

Having fun 😌

[jovial juniper]

Gunker

Aka

Gun Psyker

Uses non psychic weapons

[marble crater]

You should also use smite then, for even more horde clear

[jovial juniper]

But not exclusively those

Laspistols

Revolvers

Recons

Infantry Autoguns

Knife

Tactical Axe

Dueling Sword

[marble crater]

Everyone is always talking about Las-pistols, but what about Lad-pistols?

[plucky flax]

It'd be fine but you have pretty low monster damage

[ornate hamlet]

I use them dagger crystals

[marble crater]

Voidblast and assail is actually fun, just sad about psy aura

[jovial juniper]

True

Only thing that makes me sad about bringing The Assailer to Havoc

[zinc phoenix]

It’s really nice having assail in havoc tho, gives you a lot of utility

[elfin merlin]

is assail good for CC

[zinc phoenix]

Bumping bursters, chewing up hordes, going after specials/gunners

[fluid knot]

This talent is actually cracked ngl

Electro-staff with Surge/Nexus and primary spam with Scriers is gnarly high output

[radiant frigate]

for what purpose

[fluid knot]

For spewing little blue balls at heretics

[radiant frigate]

at that point why not gun

[fluid knot]

Because unlimited ammo and funny zap stick

It literally does as much damage as most guns outside of Revo or DB

That 30% is actually 60% because Surge procs

Nexus + Scriers puts you at like 70something% crit, so massive profit in damage and good toughness regen from Mettle

[elfin merlin]

is crit FGS reliable

[fluid knot]

Yes, though you might wanna consider Wrath and not go all in on crit

[plucky flax]

Wrath is not it.

[spice oar]

Crit everything on psyker

Like all of our builds are Crit builds

[elfin merlin]

is guarantee crit slice good or nah

[jovial juniper]

Nah

[elfin merlin]

ok then

[jovial juniper]

I won't really change breakpoints

And 15 seconds is crazy work

[halcyon plover]

the special in general is too mid to invest into imo

[elfin merlin]

it does what staff can normally do

but without staff

and less efficient

[static sonnet]

I've been running this lately. Having near 100% uptime on Gaze and Warp Rider with the keystone easy to fully stack leads to some pretty damn good damage.

Trauma and Obscurus with this

[plucky flax]

Is the fgs special bad?

[paper oriole]

I’d say it looks nice

• utility is good enough

Not strong but useful

[plucky flax]

Tru maybe it needs buff.

[marble crater]

Buff blaze trauma

[elfin merlin]

i'm planning to rock lpistol for gunker but i'm clueless about it so

what perk do i run for it ?

[analog verge]

it doesnt lock you in like the regular blaze force sword specials do, hits multiple targets, goes through walls and does respectable damage to gunners/mixed hordes, its pretty solid imo

never expected it to annihilate crushers given its other properties

[brazen compass]

[analog verge]

also maybe make warp slice not terrible

[plucky flax]

I was told it's mid.

[rancid jasper]

not to mention one of its best aspects, easily keeping peril high without wasting time and while staying in the fight and attacking.

even at 0 charge, point blank does solid damage considering its cleave and armour pierce so youre not sacrificing much if any damage considering the amount of enemies by using the special to get peril

[summer prairie]

the melee part is very bad damage

[rancid jasper]

what?

english?
ok ty for the edit

[plucky flax]

No Engirsh.

Engrish*

Type in Cantonese.

[rancid jasper]

mispelled a mispelling of english 😭

[plucky flax]

Sry me bad

[analog verge]

you mean the actual swing?

i figured, its just a vehicle to launch the big beam

[rancid jasper]

what i mean is the big beam doing a lot more damage up close than far away
at least thats what i got from my testing

[upper sun]

🚬 cant spell and cant carry me in civi 😭

[plucky flax]

Bruh yesterday I thought we're gonna chill and make it easy but I dunno why game was so hard.

To the point I had to tryhard last game but you already left.

[upper sun]

im just cursed 😭

peak weapon

[fathom siren]

whats the dump stat on staff?

[rancid jasper]

generally warp resistance i believe

what staff tho

[fluid knot]

Warp resist on Purge and Voidstrike

I wouldnt dump it on Voidblast or Electro tho

[upper sun]

radius for voidstrike

[fathom siren]

for the inferno

[upper sun]

warp res for everything except voidstrike tbh

[fathom siren]

k ty

[rancid jasper]

what do you dump on vb then? Im doing warp res right now

[fluid knot]

Blast radius

[wispy bay]

What?

[rancid jasper]

huh, that seems really valuable on vb for me??

[wispy bay]

Never dumb radius on VBlast.

[fluid knot]

The difference is pretty negligable and everything is still getting staggered, you just get more casts by dumping blast raidus

[hearty wolf]

🤔

Press F to doubt

[plucky flax]

Based.

[wispy bay]

8.4m vs 6.8m is quite significant.

[radiant frigate]

dumping blast radius on trauma

xd

[wispy bay]

Quelling let you hit again about as fast as having Warp res.

[fluid knot]

Not really, you're still tagging everything around it, which if you're running blazing still softens everything up, you just get more casts where you want it instead of more downtime

[hearty wolf]

No he has a point. In damnation there's only about 5 enemies which will all be caught in 6.8m blast radius

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-scott-steve-carell-the-office-cringe-gif-17778800

[wispy bay]

Good point, SIn.

[fluid knot]

Ahh, veri cute

You should try it, you will barely feel the difference

More CC on demand, better than couple of big CCs

[hearty wolf]

I like breaking more than 200k damage in my games personally

But that's just me

[fluid knot]

Hey if you don't wanna try it thats fine by me, I've never felt the difference in blast radius, whereas I do feel the difference with Warp Resist

[hearty wolf]

Let's test it in havoc

Come come

[fluid knot]

If I was gonna run the rending blessing, sure I might consider blast radius into large groups of Crushers, but otherwise, nah

[rancid jasper]

brittleness?

[fluid knot]

Its basically the same thing

Only difference is team vs player

[hearty wolf]

Is warp resist and blast radius the same too

Are they in the room with us now

[fluid knot]

Teenage mindset much

"This person doesnt agree with the hivemind, better jump on the ad hominim attacks!"

[analog verge]

i still disagree with blast radius being the better dump stat but thats reddit type pettiness

you love to see it

[plucky flax]

@upper sun if you want to playI can.

I am going to tryhard and make you win.

[fluid knot]

You're welcome to disagree, the beauty of choice is people can play what works for them 🤷‍♂️

[radiant frigate]

so what blessing do you run

also just because something works doesn't mean it couldn't work better if it was correct

[fluid knot]

Blazing/Nexus

[radiant frigate]

ok cool so why do you not want to spread soulblaze in a bigger area

[fluid knot]

Like I said, there is basically no discernable difference, if it takes even the slightest bit of damage on the outer edges, it still gets set on fire

[radiant frigate]

which is why more blast radius is especially good

[fluid knot]

but more casts better, its a high peril weapon and I don't wanna be railroaded into taking nodes to curb that

[hearty wolf]

Wildfire sucks because there's no discernable difference, me thinks.

[fluid knot]

Huh?

Wildfire is just made irrelevant because Perilous exists

[hearty wolf]

X

[fluid knot]

Which scales with density much harder

[hearty wolf]

D

[radiant frigate]

and just how many more casts are you getting

from not having dumped warp res

[hearty wolf]

@tulip kettle hiii, give this convo a read

It will give you a good laugh

[radiant frigate]

like wot

[hearty wolf]

No Kat. We're WRONG

I'm recommending to all players seeking assistance to dump blast radius

Instinct is better than maff

[radiant frigate]

it appears there is no escaping the fact that we are surrounded by idiots

[hearty wolf]

TRUST me

[radiant frigate]

your empirical evidence is naught before my feelscraft

now tremble

i will dump blast radius

[fluid knot]

2/3

[hearty wolf]

The entire game? That's awesome

[fluid knot]

🙄

If you're set on being a child, maybe I'm not the person you should talk to because I will just roll my eyes and start ignoring you

[hearty wolf]

More casts is better than having a larger radius. It means more damage

I follow you

Surely that's the case

More casts at higher peril too

[fluid knot]

Thats not what I said.

[brazen compass]

tbf, I understand Rat dumps blast radius on VB

[analog verge]

a reminder to all that the block button exists and to use it freely

[brazen compass]

I have staves with both, but I wouldn't do it for a soulblaze trauma

[hearty wolf]

That's DOWNTIME, not allowed

[fluid knot]

More casts in a short space of time, is more directed disruption, you have more peril to spend on keeping shit off your teammates and yourself before you need to engage with the micromanagement stuff

Sure, it might only amount to a few seconds more, but thats enough to make the difference

[hearty wolf]

Rat is also Rat

[brazen compass]

Rending Trauma with blast radius dumped fucks though

[rancid jasper]

have you considered dumping quell speed and switching to your blitz or activating quell talents to quell?

[brazen compass]

Hey, if going off the beaten path works for one, why not everyone try it? Option is in the hand of the player

Granted, not all options are good, but still

[hearty wolf]

I mean I'm not saying he can't! Go off king, I hope this random can go far 🙏

[fluid knot]

I dumped quell speed for the first year or so of the game being out when enemy density was much lower, but as it increased I found more value in it

Even more so since Scriers became a thing

[brazen compass]

tbh I'm not saying it's the best choice either, like if I'm running soulblaze then I want that bigger radius, I can feel the difference

Rending with Flurry doesn't care

[radiant frigate]

you run sg blaze trauma?

insane but i respect it

[brazen compass]

I use all staves with all the abilities except inferno, I genuinely don't like it

It gives me no feedback

[hearty wolf]

Either way that's enough trolling for me

I wish to play now

where gamers

[fluid knot]

You're done with the personal attacks and flaunting your overinflated ego? Thats a shock

[hearty wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/jackies-box-cause-with-my-clown-power-i-am-gonna-make-you-scream-louder-haha-gif-5457803539752839656

[plucky flax]

I can play 1 or 2 games.

[hearty wolf]

owt

otw

[plucky flax]

I need to restart PC sec

[deft stump]

Ppl argue about beeg AoE DoTs, I look at my Bistol and frags+Tinkerer and say is same.

[plucky flax]

Because no one is as pro as you.

[hearty wolf]

But what if you would dump the aoe and make it single target

[deft stump]

That's just kraks but better and worse. Lul.

Probs better, less delay, no 60 sec or rng cd.

Though, it sucks for bosses, right?

[hearty wolf]

What does?

[deft stump]

I dunno, I barely use trauma. Traumatises me too much.

[hearty wolf]

Oh

Yeah, it's awful at bosses

[deft stump]

So I guess is one think krak can actually do over Trauma. Boss damage lul.

[plucky flax]

Karien pro

[hearty wolf]

"Do you want Krak or Trauma" - the homeless guy in the street

[deft stump]

Nu. I can't play well.

[plucky flax]

Tru

[fluid knot]

Boltpistol very based

[brazen compass]

Legend has it she taught UnsanctionedPsyker everything she knows

Karien is the first Psyker ever

[plucky flax]

Tru

[stiff lotus]

Any void strike/void blast gamers here?

[hearty wolf]

Yes

there is

@fluid knot

[brazen compass]

I use all staves except Inferno

[stiff lotus]

I want to like voidstrike so bad it’s fun but why does it hit like a wet fkn noodle? Is void blast the same or better?

[brazen compass]

They work kinda differently

Voidstrike is a ranged non-hitscan weapon, Voidblast is like a frag staff

Are you using Surge on your Voidstrike?

Also aiming for heads can matter

[stiff lotus]

yea I am

[brazen compass]

SG or what?

[deft stump]

I have 7 of them. 3x mobility dump, 4x collateral.

[stiff lotus]

I just feel like if i don’t crit on a sniper I shouldn’t have to follow up with another shot lmao

Feels weak

[deft stump]

False, absolutely false.

[brazen compass]

Well, you do know you can also LMB too right?

[ripe obsidian]

https://github.com/Aussiemon/Darktide-Source-Code/blob/72cde1c088677d22b3830d9681d015167782b10a/scripts/settings/equipment/weapon_templates/power_mauls/powermaul_p1_m1.lua#L1196

[brazen compass]

LMB on staves goes hard

[stiff lotus]

Tf is lmb

[brazen compass]

If I'm especially going for something super far away and not tightly packed with other enemies chances are I'd just LMB it dead instead of go bowling with RMB

left mouse button

Primary attack

[stiff lotus]

ya tru

Is voidblast really good at hordes and what not?

Strike is mega weak in that field

[brazen compass]

Voidblast is good against everything not a boss or mutant

But it has a comparatively limited ranged

[stiff lotus]

Would you say of the 2 blast is just better

[hearty wolf]

@ripe obsidian oh hi

good morning

game?

[brazen compass]

I mean, I main the voidblast especially in Havoc, it's probably my favorite besides the electro staff

[wispy bay]

You are thristy for game today, eh.

[brazen compass]

VB and VS both have good skill expression but VB probably gets more mileage for "less" effort

Although stairs are your enemy

[wispy bay]

And why does @deft stump69 ing all alone there?

[brazen compass]

Karien so powerful we are all figments of her imagination

[stiff lotus]

Gotcha thanks for the info

[deft stump]

Oh, getting the group together for some games.

[plucky flax]

She gonna carries some noobs in h40.

[wispy bay]

Absolutely

[plucky flax]

As told.

Lisan al gaib.

@hearty wolf remake party

[brazen compass]

Although I will say I kinda don't like it for Auric because of the lesser (comparatively) dense hordes in Havoc

[hearty wolf]

@hearty wolf bro

OMG

I tagged myself

mentally ill moment

[fluid knot]

What am I lookin at here? the Maul DoT is its own thing?

[wind wind]

What? No flames? Whyyyy?

[brazen compass]

BECAUSE IT SUCKS

It has no feedback, no nothing to it

The flame staff is the visualisation of all the damage ticks you are applying to the enemies via the game's code, simply put

[brazen compass]

[fluid knot]

It certainly does with Surge

the node that gives 30% after charged secondary with Surge is great fun

[deft stump]

@wispy bay What are you doing?

[brazen compass]

ngl I don't even feel the infinite cleave of the flame staff, like if I have a Psyker on the team using it then sure, I appreciate it

If I'm using it, don't care for it

[plucky flax]

Illegal weapon

[fluid knot]

Infinite cleave is a significant balance issue aswell, can't bring myself to use it for that reason

[brazen compass]

it's neither here or there for me

But I don't like the lack of feedback on the flame staff