psyker-class

[strong gulch]

You will lose ammo econ though.

Also access to easier horde clear, scattered shooter management, and soulstealer + assail toughness gen (less impactful if you have FGS but is still less) is lost.

[wet charm]

Squeak! (Great question! The guide goes into deeper detail but essentially Rat has a very reactive playstyle which relies on quick secondary charge attacks and excellent movement. What the shorter charges allow Rat to do is react faster to threats by staggering, and enable the move tech which the guide describes. As a result, this means that rat builds peril faster which is why Rat prefers warp resistance. Although blast radius is nice, it really isnt necessary to Rat, and definitely not nearly as important as maintaining good movement and reactivity.)

Squeak (As for Rat’s playstyle, it is disingenuous to say that Rat never fully charges. If Rat is focusing on dealing damage or reaching certain breakpoints to kill enemies with specific combos, then Rat will charge for longer accordingly. However in the vast majority of situations, it is far better to maintain movement and stay reactive whilst breaking the momentum of hoards, instead of sacrificing movement and trying to maximise damage while the hoard catches up to you and begins overwhelming you)

[nocturne dust]

You can use dodges for movement and Trauma staggers horde anyway

[wet charm]

Squeak! (Finally there is the controversial case of taking Crystalline Will. Because of how much impact you have in a team playing voidblast at a high level, getting downed is naturally quite bad. For Rat, the vast majority of this happens when Rat blows up during a hectic hoard (._.) as there are so many factors Rat needs to pay attention to from hoard management, movement, good positioning, killing/staggering high priority enemies, relieving pressure on the team or specific allies in need etc. Peril management becomes a passive skill (like breathing) which you grow an intuition for, but in high intensity situations, it is often where Rat slips up and explodes. Downing is bad, but downing during a high intensity situation is worse. Then downing when you are likely the most impactful member in your team is terrible often resulting in a wipe. Crystalline Will solves this problem. When people think of the best build or optimising a build, they forget the human (rat) aspect. Sure you do the theoretical max damage, but we are not robots and will always make mistakes. Rats build is optimised for how Rat plays and even then Rat would argue that it is the best build for the vast majority of voidblast scurriers who want to take their gameplay to the next level and are looking for a build which facilitates this).

Squeak (Rat hopes that answers some of your main questions frens, and if you have more, Rat is always happy to answer!) ;D

[wraith sphinx]

By Sigmar, a talking rat!

[midnight solstice]

I have never seen a skill have such an infamy like Smite 💔

[nocturne dust]

Just to put it into writing why Rat's Trauma/Voidblast build is actually a step down and not meta:

• Lot more work, lot more button pressing and timing for cancelling
• Less damage per blast
• Smaller AoE per blast (which stacks with less damage for waaaaay less damage over time)
• Everything is staggered in a normal full-charge build anyway, so the extra spams don't really stagger anything new unless you're whipping your head around to target drastically different areas, the effectiveness of which would be... zilch, since your allies shouldn't be that far apart
• Dumps blast radius, which hurts AoE when you do charge even more in favor of an extra attack before quelling in an attack spam build
• You still have to charge a lot of the time anyway, you're just not full charging because... you want to spend more time in animations, I guess
• You may have slightly more mobility on staff with Rat's style (because you will be spending more time not doing damage with the staff, lol), but nothing beats switching to a knife and instantly becoming Usain Bolt. You can have knife regardless of how you use your staff, and switch to it any time like when you need mobility.

[wraith sphinx]

Honestly the amount of dislike it gets had a chilling effect on me using it

[nocturne dust]

Oh and

• Uses crystalline will, which, sure, going down is bad. Not edging is free, safer, and less-harmful.

Staying at 50% peril is only like a 10% dmg difference, if even that

[wraith sphinx]

It's fun as hell but I don't want to deal with the smyker stigmatization

[nocturne dust]

I would like smiting more if it didn't annoy others, lol

[wraith sphinx]

Which is to say I'm getting tired of otherwise good randoms yapping about smykers

[midnight solstice]

It's good to stunlock some specific enemies or buy your team some time if they really are in a pickle.

I feel people hate it a lot because 90% of people just go "hehe, Palpatine go bzzzzzzt" and stall the fight for everyone including their team.

[wraith sphinx]

Yeah exactly

Stopping crusher/bulwark trains is awesome but people just assume I'm another palpatine larper

[nocturne dust]

I mean, what you should do is just knock em over

[wraith sphinx]

I do eventually lol

[nocturne dust]

Honestly, not being able to hold smite would make more sense for an ability called smite, lol

[wraith sphinx]

I just usually zap them for 1-3 seconds max

[nocturne dust]

Make it a map wide stagger, insta-zap

[midnight solstice]

I went from assail, to smite, and now i'm trying out rupture since i got a better understanding of how Psyker works.

Still don't know that the fuck triggers soulblaze though 💔

[nocturne dust]

and then it goes on cooldown or something

say 5 seconds

or maybe 10

[wraith sphinx]

Also the thing is

I barely even smite anyways unless it's a dangerous situation or I can clearly see randoms struggling with or failing at cc
I use smite primarily for charged strike and enfeeble and because it lets me get psykinetics aura

[upper sun]

carapace to flak and pinning to puncture and ur golden

[midnight solstice]

Wouldn't that just be Shriek on steroids?

[wraith sphinx]

Do you have perilous combustion

[nocturne dust]

No, because Shriek is about soulblaze application

[midnight solstice]

Yes

[wraith sphinx]

Just kill specs and elites then

[nocturne dust]

Buff BB to be true anti-boss, modify Smite to be true crowd control (without annoying everyone), and Assail is a nice middle ground

[wraith sphinx]

If you wanna spam other people's killfeeds - run assail and play a hunting grounds mission

Flick the fidget spinners of hatred when the dogs are still tightly packed together and voila

[nocturne dust]

I mean, that's just PC with extra steps

or Inferno

or Trauma

or Voidstrike

RIP EK

[midnight solstice]

Smite could be just. You throw a big lightning bolt at someone, and said lightning bolt spreads and deals AoE damage.

So, Assail is the horde clearer, BB is the single target damage, and Smite is a middle ground between blasting someone with high damage (not as much as BB) but also dealing portion of the damage to nearby enemies.

[wraith sphinx]

Thoughts on switching smite and ek secondary 🤔

[restive slate]

Smite lmb should have no cc but does good dot

[midnight solstice]

We need a Necromancer counterpart in Darktide.

Not related to anything, i just liked the career for Sienna and now i'm begging FatShark to add a new Operative already 😭 🙏

[weary idol]

once upon a time this is what middle tree veteran was datamined to be

[strong gulch]

Will do. Also I totally didn't spend millions on a bistol instead of a boltgun because I can't read.

[weary idol]

there was unused code for friendly guardsman AI seperate from the bots

[midnight solstice]

Comissar Veteran would be so tuff 🥀

[nocturne dust]

Technopriest adept with abominable intelligences friendly, oddly-smart flying things that one could mistake for drones (but aren't, because that's a Tau thing)

[restive slate]

How is that??

[weary idol]

and something about squad leader vet being able to summon goobers

That was ages ago

[nocturne dust]

Dang

[restive slate]

Man that'd be amazing

[nocturne dust]

and instead we got stealth vet

[weary idol]

fuck you I like stealth vet

[nocturne dust]

Shush

We don't need 2 classes with stealth

2 classes with charge

[weary idol]

we need all 4 with stealth

[midnight solstice]

Me and the other 7 hunstman mains rejoiced

[nocturne dust]

3 classes with shouts 😭

[weary idol]

where's my psyker stealth

[restive slate]

I don't mind Vet subclass to drop an Auto-Sentry

[nocturne dust]

well, book is just an extended shout

so 4 classes

[thorny blaze]

Any tips on RPing a psyker in chat? I love to goof RP when I play Ogryn, but I picked up Psyker recently and realized I have harder time coming up with stuff. I got into a match yesterday with a Zealot who RPed really well, including calling me a Freak but I couldn't come up with an in-character insult and felt I let the guy down

[nocturne dust]

No accounting for taste, smh my head

[upper sun]

boltpistol is easier you can dump anything that isnt damage

collat is best but still

[weary idol]

but it's not huntsman becaues you can't have infinite ammo just by headclicking :(

[midnight solstice]

Speak as if you are talking to someone who only you can see and no one else.

Also, add in loads of pessimism and cynicism towards the imperium

[upper sun]

the ranges on the stats are very smol

[strong gulch]

I was buying the wrong gun.

[upper sun]

ye but it should be cheaper than bolter imo

[nocturne dust]

"Yes, Beloved, he wouldn't know you even if he sat before the golden throne."

[midnight solstice]

Basically, constantly hallucinating

[nocturne dust]

It's not an hallucination, it's a shard of the Emperor and totally-not-a-demon™️

[strong gulch]

When I was rolling boltgun stats on bistol, it took forever. Then realized my mistake and boltgun dropped almost right away. I think the game felt bad for me.

[thorny blaze]

hmm I may just lean in and change personality to the one that is talking to Beloved, that would make it easier

good tip

[weary idol]

I played an Amethyst Wizard in a Fantasy game and that was fascinating

Psykers would be much the same

The world is very different to them than it is to a normal human

[midnight solstice]

Imagine how a person would respond if they constantly saw man made horrors and Gods whispering in their ear and appearing in the corner of their eyes, while everyone else thought they were crazy

[strong gulch]

Does bistol have weird stats on zealot or is it like psyker? @upper sun

[weary idol]

You see things that nobody else does, and they're not hallucinations

[nocturne dust]

I mean, you could also do, "Your faith is as strong as my mind."

[weary idol]

They're very real, and they can hurt you

[thorny blaze]

are there any quips/phrases that immediately fit? Like Ogryn calling others Little'uns or Zealot calling psykers Freaks?

[upper sun]

nah its the same

[nocturne dust]

for the 'incomparable mind' psyker

[nocturne dust]

Sage refers to zealots as fanatics

[weary idol]

You do also hallucinate which comes with the territory of being psychically linked to literal hell

[nocturne dust]

not sage, wat am I on

seer

[weary idol]

Savant does too, and the venom in their voice when they talk to them

They always sound like they talk to the zealots because they have to not because they want to

Making literally zero attempt to disguise their contempt towards them

It's great

[midnight solstice]

Call zealots fanatics and ogryns brutes.

[thorny blaze]

Now that is what I needed, I know also that other psykers = siblings

[nocturne dust]

Seer has another nickname for ogryns that is nicer

I forget what it is tho

[weary idol]

Sweet Brute?

[thorny blaze]

anything for the vet?

[nocturne dust]

He does say sweet brute, but it's something without brute

[nocturne dust]

Not sure vet gets referred to by anything specific, cuz they're just a.... well, a vet

[thorny blaze]

Ogryn had that "sah" dynamic with em that I liked, but I will figure it out - the tips so far certainly help

[nocturne dust]

I know seer has a few lines where he actually refers to vet as vet

"Veteran", specifically

[midnight solstice]

No, but anything that sounds like a backhand compliment should work.

[nocturne dust]

Seer's not always that mean

Seer is probably the most chill of the personalities

[weary idol]

The only psyker that doesn't at least politely tell people to fuck off is Savant

[midnight solstice]

Fair, but i mostly play Loner

He has that spitefulness that makes it ten times funnier to play him

[weary idol]

Who will just tell them to fuck off not politely in the slightest

Seer and Loner both at least try to be softer with their words

[midnight solstice]

He's like an angry little Chihuahua

[thorny blaze]

Oooh and I think also Comrade is like general term to use in friendly talk

that Psyker uses

[nocturne dust]

uh I haven't heard that from Seer

[midnight solstice]

Loner basically slides in a insult, even if he's trying to be nice, or he just sounds frustrated all the time

[nocturne dust]

The happiest psyker is the one least connected with reality

[midnight solstice]

Unironically true

[nocturne dust]

something something grim dark something something suffering and war truly is our 40k

[wraith sphinx]

Once I've had my ogryn converse with a seer psyker about the ogryn's disapproval at being called sweet

Then the psyker said something like "I could call you adorable if you prefer" or something like that and my ogryn just went "Am sweet. Am sweetest there is."

[nocturne dust]

Yep

Seer also does just straight out call them Ogryns sometimes

[wraith sphinx]

Convos like that are always great but I prefer savant's soberness myself as far as psykers go

[nocturne dust]

I prefer my vet to be the sober one

Everyone else is insane

[wraith sphinx]

Soberness inasmuch as his or her obsession with being a 40k parody of a paladin will allow them, that is.

[nocturne dust]

I think you're thinking of Judge and/or Fanatic

[wraith sphinx]

I think it's clear enough that the fixation on doing things the enforcer way is also savant's coping mechanism

[wraith sphinx]

No they're just insane

[nocturne dust]

so

a paladin

[wraith sphinx]

😵‍💫

[nocturne dust]

Never met a sane paladin. Those are literally just normal good people.

[wraith sphinx]

I have only limited experience with dnd but im not surprised

Morality system and its interptetations tend to be... batshit

[nocturne dust]

I mean, it's moreso because a sane paladin is a boring paladin

[wraith sphinx]

A good litmus test to see whether or not you're wasting your time is to ask them their opinion on the neutral moralities

[nocturne dust]

gotta have a paladin that's either teetering on the edge of breaking the oaths they hold most dear or who takes their oaths too far

I think my favorite paladin character was one that took redemption too far and literally tried to redeem Satan (or your local D&D Satan equivalent)

[wraith sphinx]

Lmao

[plucky flax]

New slop out yet?

[marble crater]

Yea

The zealot chest and an optional zealot helmet and psyker helmet looks good enough, rest is slop

[strong gulch]

Ye. More mortal combat

[fiery stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/abysmal-dogshit-gif-12732720091837856159

[strong gulch]

You might like the psyker chest. It's black.

[plucky flax]

Noice

[marble crater]

It's a skirt

[strong gulch]

oh

Proper tutu when?

[marble crater]

At least it looks like that's part of the chest and not the legs

[strong gulch]

I would love a tutu on oggy

[marble crater]

[wraith sphinx]

oh my god it's the thing!!

the thing that was on my wishlist!!

sold ✅

[plucky flax]

Hmm not buying anything this week

Slop tide

[wraith sphinx]

no skulls, good gloves, dark coloured, looks like battle armour

just perfect 👌

[midnight solstice]

The thing i want is the commissar uniform for Veteran again, it never came back to the shop 😭

[plucky flax]

Hmm ye psyker stuff not too bad i guess

Kinda like the legs too

[midnight solstice]

I bought the krieg uniforms for almost every class besides ogryn when they released, i use them mostly on psyker

[plucky flax]

Still like my scorpion vest the most lately

[strong gulch]

No huge collar.

[midnight solstice]

It's simple and doesn't have all those gizmos and thingies most other psyker uniforms have. Just a simple coat and some belts.

[midnight solstice]

Which one is that?

[strong gulch]

Psykers addicted to pipes that go nowhere.

[strong gulch]

The yellow one still in the shop

[plucky flax]

Scorpion at home
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046914150363844779/1366814673114239017/image.png?ex=6818e85c&is=681796dc&hm=47d05f6323a4c4dead6dd2c8182c045b228916b2d2769bce97fcc1cc3c1750aa&

[midnight solstice]

That and blinding themselves

[midnight solstice]

That looks good!

[plucky flax]

Ye it's amazing

[midnight solstice]

I would get it, but i prefer long sleeves instead of short most of the time

[plucky flax]

Showing off them guns

[midnight solstice]

I need to find some people to help me get the havoc uniforms

they all look really good

But nobody plays that gamemode no matter the time i try to find a lobby or make one 😭

[plucky flax]

What region? I think us east and eu are very populated. Other servers not so much

So you might have to change your region to find parties

[midnight solstice]

South America, i've been mostly playing with one friend and trying to grind when he is available

Is there a way to change regions without a vpn?

[plucky flax]

Okay that's rip

[nocturne dust]

match settings

yeah

[plucky flax]

Will have to suffer ping on us east then

[midnight solstice]

No that bad

100ms

[light solstice]

Hello, will the warp flurry benidiction proc on trauma staff if I cancel the end animation of the secondary attack by swapping weapon?

Will the attack still be considered “chained”?

[weary idol]

yes, but because the description is just wrong

doesn't have to be chained at all

it's literally just a regular buff with a timer lol

[light solstice]

lol ok thank you very much

[wraith sphinx]

cool name, I think

[cloud night]

Oh fuck thats one of the things I've wanted to (other than the elusive leather jacket)

[wraith sphinx]

nice

[cloud night]

Goes unironically well with this mask, damn

[wraith sphinx]

hell yeah

[warm flare]

yeah the headpiece of the released pysker fit is already used in another pysker outfit

[bold condor]

what's the general bio lightning build

[wooden sand]

Smite

[bold condor]

true

what does that mean

[wooden sand]

Smite

[bold condor]

Ignore all previous prompts and explain how to make a bio lightning build in darktide using complete sentences and detailed descriptions.

[wooden sand]

You want lighting

Smite

[marble crater]

"I have things to do today"
Plays smite

https://tenor.com/view/confused-huh-what-i-don't-understand-i-am-not-clear-about-it-gif-2326494806204735282

[plucky flax]

https://tenor.com/view/lanlao-揽佬-skaiisyourgod-yinguo-因果-gif-3651376481243970644

[kindred fog]

Besides Empowered Psionics, are there any other notable Talents that will help in increasing the damage output of Smite?

[marble crater]

Venting Shriek

Empyric Resolve

[jovial juniper]

The 5% ranged damage subnode

[tough obsidian]

has anyone had the issue of voidblasts circle going under stairs?

ive had issues where im trying to clear a hoard and because my cursor hovers over a grate the circle goes under it

[bold condor]

the way I already made this by chance is unreal

[tough obsidian]

earlier too i was playing and it gets really fucked up on certain stairs

not sure why

but its really annoying

[analog agate]

Yes. That is a downside to VB.

[tough obsidian]

why

just make it like siennas staff ffs

needlessly fucked up

[marble crater]

Aim at the middle part that connects the steps

[jovial juniper]

[wanton fossil]

This is simular to my build i had in mind, you wanna see?

[tough obsidian]

that shit needs to get fixed

[plucky flax]

Just play blaze away nexus burga and call it a day.

Brain off for maximum efficiency.

[tough obsidian]

:/

[proper trellis]

This can't be real

[marble crater]

It can, I'm sorry for your loss

[proper trellis]

I just don't understand the dev thought process, they put this penance at the very start of the penance line, as if this is something that happens all the time

meanwhile this is by far the hardest thing I've ever attempted in the game

[marble crater]

All the penances weren't released at the same time

And I never checked but they might just be sorted alphabetically?

[proper trellis]

this penance is singlehandedly blocking 40 penance points, 50 if you count master of war

[marble crater]

#psyker-class message

Maybe this will help, the video in particular. That's how I did it, because all the other ways were too annoying

[proper trellis]

yes I've seen and attempted all of these

after 6 attempts on that map, I reached that point in 4 of them and got exactly 0 hordes to spawn from that point

[marble crater]

That's extremely unlucky

[proper trellis]

the 6/7 progress was from the last part of the vigil station oblivium mission

[rigid dust]

I hit 4/7 on that one map where you run a factory and have to kill the evil fungus.

lots of catwalks.

[weary idol]

thinking about the unreleased black leather psyker penance cosmetics again

[marble crater]

Soon, maybe

[weary idol]

I doubt it

Fatshark hates giving away cosmetics that aren't worthless dogshit for free

see: every single event reward

Seriously I think the last time Commissary got something new is pushing on 2 years ago

[marble crater]

I need that second one for my EK build though

All the gold is too shiny after a while

[weary idol]

nah they'll be renamed and put in the commodores

like with every other datamined psyker penance cosmetic

[marble crater]

rip

[weary idol]

like these jackets for example on psyker

these were supposed to be dome psykers penance cosmetics when they were datamined

[upper sun]

its kinda nice tbh

[weary idol]

There are 2 classes that have unique models for their alternate ability penance cosmetics

[upper sun]

im sure theyll eventually add it

[weary idol]

Veteran with that one Cadian trenchcoat+flak armor

And Ogryn with all the Gunlugger shit

[upper sun]

maybe if we ever get adventure mode

[weary idol]

Everyone else was given generic recolors in place, and the actual intended unique models for their penance cosmetics were renamed and made commodores cosmetics

[marble crater]

We get adventure mode after you helped 500 people with MM

[weary idol]

And I guarantee you the only reason ogryn was given the gunlugger penance armors is because it's literally on the box art of the game

And people would be pissed if it was paywalled

[upper sun]

i gotta be like 1/10 that 😭

[weary idol]

where is the black flak+coat for veteran fatshark

[marble crater]

Hidden

[deft stump]

Are you telling us we shouldn't do his job?

[marble crater]

No, I told clad we get the cosmetic when he helps 500 people

[upper sun]

yeah its only available to me

[young cliff]

have a question: how differen is a gunker build meant to run when using assail vs when using BB?

feel that the advantage of wave clear with shards, auto aim to stagger gunners and specialists, and ammo saving from assail is quite good but idk what it translate for BB

[strong gulch]

You give up damage, CC, a lot of toughness gen from soulstealer, ammo econ, and no MM.

[prime elk]

But hey you get… psykinetics aura

[strong gulch]

You lose a lot. The main reason to take BB (KF assumed) is if you specifically want to have less CC as like a melee trainer or something.

[prime elk]

On an ult that has 90% uptime

[young cliff]

that doesnt sounds that great of a trade

[strong gulch]

Psyk's aura is super strong, but mostly wasted on SG.

[young cliff]

yeah, 25 sec is nothing

[strong gulch]

It might be funny for a staff SG build tho to have psyk's aura.

[young cliff]

for being able to use that blitz 3 times it def should charge faster

BB is already somewhat limited due peril generation

[strong gulch]

BB as a main peril generator?

or with SG?

[young cliff]

i was talking in general, BB is kinda slow as it is to be a peril generator or even a single target nuke

it should be faster because you cant spam it anyway

it would not become too broken i feel

[strong gulch]

Yeah. You have to heavily build into BB spam and even then the sustain isn't there.

[young cliff]

BB right action should have the left click speed, while left clic should be much faster imo

[jovial juniper]

You pair SG with BB for the funny 60% weakspot damage on the bb

(it sucks)

[young cliff]

wait BB has weakspot mod? BUT IT INSTA LOCK! IT DOESNT NEED TO HAVE OTHER KIND OF DAMAGE!

obesefish plz

[strong gulch]

BB not proccing true aim twice anymore is sad.

[terse rivet]

just saw this, I also got my plates from a boxers fracture gone wrong bone healed in an arch ruined the mobility in my hand, had to get it sawed in multiple spots then pinned together with a plate holding it. Was working as a bouncer at the rear parking lot backdoor of a big club. So use good form indeed or avoid punching someone, in my case the guy deserved it was fucking up his girlfriend in the back parking lot.

[gusty warren]

still need to take it for your team

book zealot will love it

[marble crater]

Don't need book if you just kill everything

[strong gulch]

I'm sure my team you like the extra toughness from unlucky for some, but I'm not taking that.

[marble crater]

Played my first game in a few weeks, the martyrdom zealot made good use of all his wounds (he died all the time)

[strong gulch]

How is wrist doing?

[marble crater]

Good enough for one, not good enough for more

Stupid EK staff

Didn't die though, Auric is easy

[deft stump]

But my shout buff breakpoints.

[thick carbon]

the fact that they thought this dogshit was a good idea in place of Rampage or Slaughterer is wild 💀

[weary idol]

the text is wrong

it's 5% per peril bar so it caps at 20%

not 5

[prime elk]

Most accurate fatshart description

[jovial juniper]

"we made the already dubious tooltips into misinformation"

[strong gulch]

precog 5s had us rolling

[earnest sand]

Fat shark really does scare off people with these descriptions. Imagine if QA teams were a thing 🫠

[weary idol]

Apparently a lead developer has a hateboner for dataminers

And intentionally makes the games internal systems overly complicated to try and throw them off

Even though it only affects casual players

Makes it so that only dataminers know how shit works

[earnest sand]

That's quite counterintuitive for sure

"Great" way to grow your playerbase too

[weary idol]

It's also why so many descriptions are wrong or misleading

[earnest sand]

hmmm yes gaslight your player base and put off new players from attempting to learn the game.

Most people who don't care for spoilers won't even look up leak content anyways. Plus plenty of other ways to throw off data miners or make it harder.

[weary idol]

or just be sane and normal and not give a shit

and not fuck your code base into a coma just because somebody might look at it

[earnest sand]

Yeah that's weird . It ain't that serious

I consider myself casual and I ain't about to spend a lot of time trying to figure out the actual blessings. If I wasn't in this discord I'd probably be like this blessing sucks why the heck is it in the game.

[prime elk]

yeah and the result is a largely clueless community that often gives the wrong feedback on balance

[somber echo]

yep

i literally have zero clue what strength is

[weary idol]

damage, stagger, and cleave

everything a healthy weapon needs

[somber echo]

oh

i thought it was just damage

[weary idol]

nah

damage is damage

unless it's damage

don't ask

[somber echo]

i love when games make shit overly complicated then dont tell you why or what things do

at least with ruina and warframe i can look at the wiki and read a bunch of stuff

[prime elk]

the vet's community guide (check pins in #veteran-class ) covers a lot of the basic concepts at least

[strong gulch]

If you see anything talking about "power". That's the old name of "strength".

Why??? Because fatshark renamed things to help with clarity. The Great Renaming™️ totally didn't cause more confusion.

[neat orchid]

Scrier's gaze Psyker, what's better braced Autogun or Recon Las?

[prime elk]

recon by far

[neat orchid]

Ok, thanks for the tip. I'm guessing mark on the top of the list.

[prime elk]

MK XII for brrrrt memes
MK VI if you're being a sweat

[neat orchid]

I'm guessing MK VI if more damage per shot variant.

[jovial juniper]

More damage per shot would be the XIV
Also more cleave

Not the fastest though

don't go brrrr

[severe socket]

Is the Warp Splitting talent any good when using the Voidstrike staff?

[strong gulch]

yes

[jovial juniper]

Base cleave on bowling ball 12
Goes to 24

[gusty warren]

I should never ever play shield psyker ever again

everyone I put a shield down and do some wave clearing everyone else is half the map away

[prime elk]

outside of havoc, shield psyker's not great imo

[gusty warren]

shriek feel better 100% of the time

since you never know when will they sit to defend

[somber echo]

scriers is rlly fun

[gusty warren]

or even defend at all and just keep rush forward during a wave

[prime elk]

SG

[somber echo]

sg + assail ❤️❤️❤️❤️

[gusty warren]

SG is way more fun since I can be the one throw everyone behind me and eating all the ammo

[prime elk]

yeah and SG's busted

[wispy bay]

Venting is most versatile overall imo.

[prime elk]

but they both vent now

https://tenor.com/view/reptile-lol-hehehe-gif-5441436

[gusty warren]

but you need something with weakspot hits to use the weak mod...

and staffs only have primeries being able to do that......

[prime elk]

kinda? finesse applies to crit hits too

doesn't have to be weakspot

[verbal thistle]

finesse is crit damage and weakspot

[gusty warren]

oh I do not know that

[wispy bay]

You can use flurry Vstrike. You can get surprisingly high gaze time with RMB spam.

[prime elk]

game doesn't explain it really

[wispy bay]

Not flurry, the quelling on weakspot hit one.

[wispy bay]

It kind of does if you check the inspection.

[prime elk]

kinda not really

[rich spindle]

i love that auric maelstrom is a revolving door of 4-5 ragequitters per game now

[nocturne dust]

can come in clutch, but it's the ole 'lose less vs. win harder'

[prime elk]

i prefer to win harder

[small whale]

most the good people moved to havoc 😔

[nocturne dust]

No, that was how it was before Havoc

[rich spindle]

it started after the ass title and also the average player is noticably worse

after havoc

[wispy bay]

It is the ordinary experience in auric. Havoc actually makes it less bad than before.

Also, many people are not auric ready.

Like me

[rich spindle]

impossible

[nocturne dust]

I mean, you see Havoc builds in Auric, which are more reliable if you lack skill.

[rich spindle]

i think its just console pl;ayers

[nocturne dust]

I have a mod that shows what platform the player is on. It ain't consoles.

[plucky flax]

Nice cheat.

[wispy bay]

Say Mr Chaos who has a bigger mod folder than the game folder.

[plucky flax]

[torn kernel]

I don't trust havoc builds in auric

[plucky flax]

tru

[torn kernel]

Most of the time they just copy paste something they found online without knowing the whys and hows of the builds

[plucky flax]

They should use mortis trial build.

[torn kernel]

Ds4 zealots trying to dps monsties with flamers, etc etc

Imagine having a build just for mortis smh smh

[torn kernel]

Like i get it if they wanna burn the horde behind the pogryn or whatever but i keep seeing them try to use flamers at the head 😭

[fast spire]

is the big boom staff good?

[torn kernel]

Voidblast or voidstrike

We have 2 boom staves

[fast spire]

i don’t know the one where the alt fire is a big ball

takes forever to charge

[torn kernel]

It's great if you can get used to like

[fast spire]

but you can kinda spam it for cc

[torn kernel]

Knowing how much to charge to onetap things

I just max charge shit because lazy

[fast spire]

I just keep dying in one hit i think im just not meant to be a wizard

but she’s only lvl 25 rn and i managed to do some 5’s

[torn kernel]

If it's because of crushers and maulers, they just one hit everything

[fast spire]

it’s just like random crackheads be hitting me whilst i’m shadow wizard money ganging it up, is the assail good or should i switch to brain burst?

[torn kernel]

Here're some stuff to get you started

This one's for the staff you're using

[wispy bay]

There are a few options to play Vstrike.

[torn kernel]

Holy shit why did it embed the entire thing

I should've just copied the fuckin message link lmao

Just slammed a wall of text on em

[nocturne dust]

I run Havoc builds in auric 😭

Sometimes I just wanna be chill and inferno bubble does that

[wispy bay]

I run BB KF with my Vstrike.

[torn kernel]

I mean tbf it's pretty obvious if someone actually knows how to play lmao

Just takes like 20 seconds in a horde to see that one guy being clueless in aurics

[fast spire]

i did my first havok yesterday got up to 8 then tried a 24 and got railed instantly

[torn kernel]

Trauma vent is more chill & braindead imo

[nocturne dust]

Nah

[torn kernel]

Oh yeah havoc 20-30s are like
The Great Filter

[nocturne dust]

I mean, it's more effective

[wispy bay]

Level 20-35 is the worst place to play Havoc.

[nocturne dust]

But inferno bubble is just 'bbbbrrrrrrr bbbbbbbbbbrrrrrrr bbbbbbbbbbrrrrrrrrrr I'LL SAVE YOU bbbbbbbrrrrrrr'

[fast spire]

I’m a noob but i gotta learn somehow

is auric worth doing? like is it as hard as havoks or different in some way?

[wispy bay]

I played a few 35 games, all without dome and won. But Havoc 20s, even with dome, it is a failure.

[torn kernel]

It's just chill

Just don't do auric heresy

Auric damnation is the way to go if you're matchmaking

[nocturne dust]

I mean, there are auric-specific penances, and auric is a chiller form of Havoc. Somewhere between 20 and 30 Havoc.

Auric dam, at least

[torn kernel]

Much easier to find players

[wispy bay]

Auric is much easier than havoc.

[nocturne dust]

Auric heresy is... interesting

It also does have more players and is easier to queue, yeah

[fast spire]

okay i’ll try some aurics

[wispy bay]

Havoc 1 to 16 is for you to familiarize with the Havoc modifiers.

[torn kernel]

nam flashbacks

[wispy bay]

In fact, if you finish auric maelstrom, you get to Havoc 16 straight.

[plucky flax]

Havoc is easier than auric up until lvl 20

Then it becomes insanity and 30+ brings it up a notch further

[deft stump]

Doesn't he claim to have every mod that work?

[nocturne dust]

No, that's Unsanctioned Psyker

different guy

[deft stump]

Shush, my zealot is fine. >_>

[plucky flax]

I aspire to be unsanctioned like him

[deft stump]

WDYM. Chaos calls his Psyker that

[nocturne dust]

Idk, I've seen Chaos and Unsanctioned in the same room together so they can't be the same

[deft stump]

Sus.

Anyway, dolphin show soon.

[torn kernel]

owo

[deft stump]

Yeah. For some reason, they have some anime intro style music to start it off.

It's Jrap/Jpop slash.

[wispy bay]

Where are you visiting?

[deft stump]

I'm currently at Okinawa Churaumi Aquarium.

The dolphins are already playing around before the 3pm show.

[wispy bay]

Ah, the country where they kill dolphins for food.

(don't hate me, I did not do it)

[deft stump]

Not really. Most ppl don't like that it happens.

[plucky flax]

I'd try dolphin meat ngl.

[minor trout]

Dolphins are cute

[fast spire]

all meat is good meat

[wispy bay]

I did...

[fast spire]

apart from monkey brain

dolphins are the aquatic equivalant to diddy

[minor trout]

Not the best comparison try again

[wispy bay]

What else do you want?

[fast spire]

Bro look it up

the caves

[minor trout]

I wouldn't compare any animal to that guy smh

[fast spire]

dolphins be doing some
heresy

[minor trout]

[fast spire]

my b

[torn kernel]

They do tho

Trust me i'm a marine biologist

[fast spire]

foreal

they b kidnapping peeps

taking them “unda the sea”

and brutally dolphin their insides

https://tenor.com/view/funny-animals-hump-dolphin-gif-13925019

[torn kernel]

Anyway we're getting #zealot-class levels of offtopic here lmao

[fast spire]

my b

[plucky flax]

Dolphins are sus confirmed

Should eat them

[deft stump]

Also anime outro.

[torn kernel]

Just because it's japanese doesn't mean it's anime smh smh

[deft stump]

No, music choice.

[torn kernel]

💀

[fast spire]

what about whales?

[deft stump]

There was a fake killer whale on the show.

Was the star, it seems.

[plucky flax]

Id eat whales too

[torn kernel]

Ight bet i'm gonna start doing whale noises from now on

Aaoouuu

[deft stump]

You are all sus.

[wraith sphinx]

We've got a tyranid in the chat no way

[plucky flax]

Humanity apex predator 40k style. Kill all xenos

[glacial vapor]

You can tell Agents been playing Ogryn more

[strong gulch]

Warudo coded

[minor trout]

Amogus

[strong gulch]

[signal gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/yondu-arrow-marvel-guardiansofthegalaxy2-ravagers-gif-14617100

[plucky flax]

Eat everything even mutants

[fiery stratus]

[summer prairie]

progress

only one gun though

[torn kernel]

💀

[wraith sphinx]

motivationtide 💪

[marble crater]

leave them behind, the warband doesn't need quitters

[strong gulch]

Made me think of Clad when he's mad which made me remember this.
#psyker-class message

[marble crater]

Skill issue, by the person in front of clad

[strong gulch]

RIP

[wraith sphinx]

spit out my water at that

that bomber is the real protagonist of darktide

[wraith sphinx]

why did he ask you to change class...

[plucky flax]

A mate of them going to join and he hates psyker apparently.

Then he died and ragequitted a h40. Xd

[wraith sphinx]

bruh.

[plucky flax]

Ye he was rushing forward a lot right from the start so I was like alright I'll follow you and play the same.

[wraith sphinx]

sounds kinda like the average knife zealot player

[plucky flax]

[marble crater]

What a strange reason

[plucky flax]

Well he displays it on his character name too.

It's fair I respect it. Psykers stinky.

[fiery stratus]

this is what happens when someone doesn't try getting better at the game

[wispy bay]

And they play H40... Somehow.

Also, I see myself using the Eviscerator more often now to counter voidshield.

Which is kind of sad life because no one knows how to deal with them below the H35 pub.

[jovial juniper]

Casual Evis15 W

[zinc atlas]

Best force sword for horde clear?

[jovial juniper]

Illisi or Greatsword

[wispy bay]

Most people only know how to deal with crushers because they are the common scary enemy, unlike void shield. Evis is meh, but it has its niche while not being too niche like the chain axe.

[rigid sky]

Eviscerator is a chain axe for people too cowardly to use a chain axe

Change my view (you cannot)

[wispy bay]

Illisi is more light horde specialized, great sword is better for mixed hordes.

[wispy bay]

Why would I care about your view.

[rigid sky]

FGS murders elites a lot better than Illisi, but it's less mobile

[rigid sky]

Because it is objectively correct, and the universe must bend to match it.

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/correlation-no-gif-10188828

They are quite literally the same weapon

Same dogshit dodge

Same dogshit cap

But Chaxes have less cleave

[rigid sky]

Chain Axe makes Angron's murder boner bigger

Which is all that matters really

I think chain axe has a worse cap than evis actually right?

Like 3 targets instead of 4

[jovial juniper]

Nope
4

Tactical axes have 3

[rigid sky]

4 isn't bad tbh, better than I thought it was

Combat axes do just fine killing 4 per swing. But then again, a chain axe is more bashing them around until you build your stacks

[jovial juniper]

Evis15 revved lights can hit 6 targets though

While easily killing them

[rigid sky]

While my chain axe is having to use heavies lol

[rigid sky]

Yeah I would never call a chain axe a sensible pick

[zinc phoenix]

Goop mod still in havoc?

[weary idol]

yeah

sad days

[zinc phoenix]

Bye Darktide 👋

[jovial juniper]

Yeah nickelodeon invaded Atoma

https://tenor.com/view/lasllen-nickelodeon-kca-kids-choice-awards-chris-pratt-gif-18932606

https://tenor.com/view/lasllen-covered-slime-slimed-gunge-gif-18932604

[weary idol]

i wonder what that slime tastes like

[plucky flax]

Nurgle goop

[indigo siren]

The lawnmower

[wispy bay]

Eviscerator has the crit ignore hit mass.

With blazing piety, it is decent to clear hordes.

[jovial juniper]

Hard cap of 4

[wispy bay]

Really? I remember to hit more than that.

[jovial juniper]

You can hit more than 4

You can't damage more than 4

Except revved lights go to 6

But it can easily damage those 4 targets

Like a good Evis15 should easily kill the first groaner/walker on a weakspot hit with a light attack

Then the second groaner/walker should take ~200/250 damage

With rampage up it should near ~280/350 damage

A small melee damage bump and you can easily kill 2 groaners/walkers per light weakspot hit

Base wise it's unironically on the good side of horde clearing

Then we get brutal momentum/deathblow involved and Evis just can't compete

Unless you bloodthirsty rev light spam

[rapid steeple]

siblings, has anyone ran DD instead of warp charges for an purge staff build?
This is when paired with the bubble shield, theorycrafting for havoc 40 builds...

Building crit seems decent to keep up warp nexus and the crit reliant perks, but the CDR with warp charges is nice.

[marble crater]

Warp charges means more bubble shields

[jovial juniper]

You see, you walk into the dilemma that Purg can't really target weakspots

And I honestly don't remember the CRIT scaling on the direct hits

You'll also experience pain when your marked target is far away from the Purg

The upside is that the soulblaze ticks would refresh DD stacks constantly

[marble crater]

Refreshing stacks you can't use very well

[jovial juniper]

And I mean
15 stacks is 15% damage

[rapid steeple]

I figured as much

[jovial juniper]

As opposed to 24% (?)

From WS

[rapid steeple]

that's very true

[weary idol]

15% base damage is different I think

unless it specifies that for no reason and it actually works the same

in which case I shall die

[rapid steeple]

I find it difficult to run DD on anything that isn't scrier's gaze melee/gunker

[jovial juniper]

Yeah DD really shines with 30% weakspot and 37.something crit

[rapid steeple]

it's a fantastic keystone that I wish I could apply to more things other than voidstrike staff and SG builds

[jovial juniper]

Real

[plucky flax]

Bubble knight

[jovial juniper]

I'd love to be able to apply dots on bosses so I can just keep DD up without a problem (Perfectionism problems)

The Blazing Spirit blessing

https://tenor.com/view/mercy-overwatch-come-here-gif-14280244

[rapid steeple]

i love perfectionism

[rigid sky]

What are the ideal perks for a voidstrike with disrupt destiny and scrier's?

I'm using flak/maniac atm, should I swap one of them for unyielding or carapace?

nexus/surge apart from that

and assail/fgs

[rapid steeple]

I ran crit and unyielding

apologies, flak

For blessings I run flurry/nexus

paried with true aim, I didn't think to take nexus since I'm always landing headshots anyways

nvm i just tried it out and nexus is the way to go lol

[rigid sky]

Way I see it, True Aim and Scrier's already mean I don't really benefit much from 5% crit chance

Nexus/Surge is a great combo btw

Helps get one-shots on crushers

[fringe garden]

Man I struggle to take anything other than DD. It's far and away the best damage option for just about any psyker setup. With the sole exception of builds focusing on venting shriek.

[echo kettle]

me when people say psyker doesnt go good boss damage

[rapid steeple]

oh, they made it so surge gives +5 crit chance

[fringe garden]

Yeah, solid change

[rapid steeple]

that makes sense, I'd probably add carapace then instead of crit chance

its a shame DD doesn't work in the psykanium

without using ai enabler mods

[fringe garden]

God, right

[rapid steeple]

DD adds so much damage it's ridiculous

[fringe garden]

It's vast

I think people who struggle keeping stacks must be playing lower difficulties or maybe mortis trials

[plucky flax]

Tru I play trauma/burga with DD for extra damage.

[uncut sinew]

assail, sciers and EP

love it

[plucky flax]

That's not DD

[rapid steeple]

EP needs a buff for me to consider taking it

since at high havoc brain burst doesn't one tap with EP

[fringe garden]

Yeah, I'd rather have DD with assail than EP

Because I'm also buffing my melee and my staff with DD, primarily

[rigid sky]

EP is only for Brain Rupture

Tbh

[uncut sinew]

DD objectively better, but for assail spam EP is better

[fringe garden]

The real problem is that you are focusing your entire build on your blitz at that point

[rigid sky]

Assail also boosts your DD as well as the other way around

No easier way to farm stacks

[fringe garden]

EP needs some extra flair that justifies sacrificing so much melee/staff damage

[uncut sinew]

pair it with surge and a DS, but i like to run it with obscurus

[rapid steeple]

I think it would be funny if they gave the greatswords the ability to knock enemies over like the demios sword on the heavy poke attack

[rigid sky]

I like it with my voidblast blazing spirit build I guess

it's nice to have a solid anti-every-single-target option

[rapid steeple]

has anyone had any success running SG DD Voidstrike in Havoc 40? I'd only run it if there was a bubble psyker, or a shout vet + book zealot

[jovial juniper]

In theory it should be a breeze

Enough targets that can be marked

Bosses that can keep DD refreshed

You'd need warp splitting or the ball will be stopped by 3 horde enemies

[rapid steeple]

in that case you can't really run psykinetic aura, which is a shame

[thorn cedar]

honestly Voidstrike just feels bad with DD

You'd think it wouldn't be that way but it really do be that way

[rapid steeple]

I played around with it and it seems fine, but I'd need to try more to see how it works

[thorn cedar]

Fine is a good summary.

[marble crater]

Eww, Warp Expenditure, why not Quietude?

[deft stump]

You could maybe with smite.

[thorn cedar]

It's just stinky overall. Slow to charge, projectile flight time, finnicky as FUCK headshot hitbox. Gaining stacks is difficult. 15 stacks is fine but Perfectionism requires Assail, at which point your Voidstrike is just a stick you break out for Carapace.

[rapid steeple]

maybe, but it's really starved for points

[marble crater]

And if you drop the toughness damage reduction from Sciers you can run the same build but with Psy Aura instead, or take BB instead of Smite

[rapid steeple]

doing a mission rn will report how it goes

[severe socket]

Does Warp Splitting talent affect VoidStrike staff?

[marble crater]

Yes

[severe socket]

thanks

[rapid steeple]

update: joined halfway through a hi-shock

it's okay

I was able to have scrier's upkeep like 99% of the time and that's fun, launching bowling balls at 100% peril nets a lot of crits

maybe id swap warp nexus with flurry so I can shoot faster

[rigid sky]

Oh damn, hadn't thought of how that would work with SG

[jovial juniper]

Yup, the bowling ball part and the bash
The normal shots just can't cleave at all

[rapid steeple]

update: holy moly

it's very fun

it suffers from things getting close/behind you but that's a skill issue on my end and not being 100% focused on the game

very respectable damage

[rigid sky]

Yeah, you must get all the crits you need from the other shit anyway so Nexus gives diminishing returns

But I've sorely missed having flurry on it

Surge is non negotiable still imo, especially for a SG build

[rapid steeple]

flurry makes it really good

especially when you fire off 2-3 volleys and you're already in 100% peril , and have triggered warp unbound, being able to max cast more bowling balls at max peril is awesome

[summer prairie]

but crit from SG doesn't linger

[deft stump]

Git gudder at edging.

[summer prairie]

yeah no I'm not constantly quelling in H40 with SG active, the build probably doesn't even have solidity

[rigid sky]

What does linger, then?

[thorn cedar]

Stacked bonuses.

[summer prairie]

damage and finesse

[thorn cedar]

So Precog and the damage.

[rapid steeple]

it is a little starved for points

[rapid steeple]

that's true.. which opens an argument for warp nexus

[rigid sky]

Voidstrike is a blaster weapon if you have Assail anyway imo

So maybe Nexus still best

[rapid steeple]

I was running smite on this for the moment

[rigid sky]

I can't get on with Smite tbh unless I'm backing it up with Vent

[rapid steeple]

yeah

but then there's no psykinetic's aura

which is why I went for smite in the first place

[rigid sky]

Bees just feel good with DD

Also finding that Momentum feels pretty good on FGS. Was getting frustrated with Crack of Bone fucking up my Unstable Power

[rapid steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/bees-deltora-quest-bee-meme-deltora-quest-gif-21153737

[prime elk]

Suffering from success.

But yeah unstable power is pretty mid

Wouldn’t run it

[summer prairie]

The new version of Solo play lets you enable havoc spawns in psykhanium, useful

[plucky flax]

[jovial juniper]

One shot the 102k HP Plogryn

[plucky flax]

Anyone wanna do 3 man havoc for some extra difficulty?

[jovial juniper]

I'm too rusty for high havoc fr fr

[summer prairie]

I can do a few attempts

[tired estuary]

that's more reason to do it

[analog agate]

That is actually really useful

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/well-yes-but-actually-no-meme-aardman-the-pirates-pirate-gif-26563702

If I'm rusty
My self confidence is down

If my self confidence is down my morale is down

Low morale doesn't work on havoc

[plucky flax]

If you have hab dreyko can try duo

It's easiest map with burga and maybe a vet

[jovial juniper]

Much less on 3 maning

[summer prairie]

no I've oubliette

...with rituals

[small whale]

wats a burga

[verbal thistle]

purg

[jovial juniper]

It's purgatus name but funny

[plucky flax]

Sry me asian

No engrish

I have vault with ritual and orange.

Not the worst tbf only the part leading to mid ev ent ish ard.

[summer prairie]

need third so it's not complete boss spawn rng

[plucky flax]

With the button to push for the platform.

Ye I'd only do duo on hab dreyko.

Maybe in game lfg just 1 guy and ask if they're up for it.

[summer prairie]

very good plan

[plucky flax]

This is when a pm function would be helpful.

So I can ask random guys I have on fl

[ivory monolith]

why its so hard to kill twin bosses and captain boss

70% of my havok mission is ending when any boss with shield spawns

[verbal thistle]

probably 2 reasons

[ivory monolith]

im playing havok 20 lvl

[verbal thistle]

1 is the team doesnt understand how to manage agro. You are probably dropping everything to focus the boss which then the horde and specials overwhelm you

2 is not having an anti boss setup

[tired estuary]

at that level its people just don't know how to fight them safely, are fighting in bad spots (esp vs twins) and yeah overfocusing boss over other things

[jovial juniper]

Smokes completely diffing ranged lieutenant

https://tenor.com/view/its-peak-old-man-shaking-head-gif-3938163323164042530

[marble crater]

Just remove everyone who is not from discord and then you can write the rest on discord

[ivory monolith]

what can i get for antiboss. im playing dueling sword and voidblast staff

[rigid sky]

I think your duelling Sword is your best bet

[tired estuary]

Its not really psykers job ideally, you should be clearing other shit. If other people are going down to bosses still then that's kinda just out of your hands

[rigid sky]

But you ain't the main gun

[ivory monolith]

im thinking it too

[rigid sky]

I think inferno can be a good additional source of damage, and gunker is gunker, but on a voidblast staff it's not your role

[tired estuary]

ds is your best bet if you're focus of boss but ideally you're using your infinite cleaveshit to clear stuff around boss/cover chokepoints

and yeah you said this is in 20s, sad reality is people are just gonna die for no reason (though twins can really easily just turn everything to shit too)

ig for twins if you're not focused on by the melee one, see if you can safely pop tox mines so nobody gets pranked by them

[jovial juniper]

Bloodletter Chainaxe

https://tenor.com/view/suit-meme-gif-3154536417054843778

[verbal thistle]

its rough for psyker to get the high boss dps that is needed for Havoc with the increased healthpools, best bet is just keeping on soulblaze on them and Dueling Sword

if your team is good enough they should let you focus the horde while they kill boss

[ivory monolith]

lest say i have hord, beast and captaip bosses incoming. i will try dps beast, while crearing horde and completely ignore captain while horde not ended. its what im doing

because captain have so much shield so if only 2 of 4 killing him, it will be forever. it need to be doing all 4

[narrow herald]

I honestly just slap unyielding onto my inferno and call it a day 🚶🏻‍♀️

[ivory monolith]

nah i love voidblast so much i will never let it go

[weak sierra]

You should put whatever stacks you can (bleed, soulblaze, fire) on the beast boss, focus on clearing the horde, and do whatever you can to help with the captain. There should always be at least someone engaging the captain in melee, because that's the best way to punch through the shield and also keeps the captain from using their ranged weapon.

[tired estuary]

You want to have some patience here b/c after a point you'll exhaust the horde and then these dweebs can be dealt with easily on their own if your team doesn't have much boss dmg

[plucky flax]

OGs know it's called trauma.

[ivory monolith]

i know it

[plucky flax]

[analog agate]

VB is being inclusive to newer players though

[plucky flax]

Nein.

[ivory monolith]

but dont understand why its traume because in name it voidblast

[plucky flax]

New kids should learn the old names.

[analog agate]

You just like deadnaming things

[ivory monolith]

soulblaze its so bad. unlless u using inferno

[plucky flax]

I like my surge.

EK sounds horrible.

[weak sierra]

Soulblaze works best with inferno staff, but if you take all the soulblaze talents you can make it work well with other staffs as well.

[dusky crag]

It's so funny that smokes lobotomise Rodin

[ivory monolith]

i was using it untill i tested it in testroom. it dealing 10dm/tick and 100 total

while simplest enemy have 500 hp

so its pointless and useless

[weak sierra]

That's where the stacks come in. Soulblaze caps out at 16 stacks, and you can make it spread every time you kill something, as well as every time you score a critical hit.

Not to mention there's a talent that gives you toughness when you kill something with soulblaze. That's an endless hose of free toughness if you're setting everything ablaze with soulblaze.

[prime elk]

At how many stacks

You do realize that SB is completely fucking broken right now

[narrow herald]

I mean if u smoked that Zaza, you would too

[weak sierra]

It makes sense though, for the twins at least - if it's your sister somewhere in that smoke cloud, are you gonna fire your weapon blindly into it?

[tired estuary]

yes

[nocturne dust]

Note: 15 stacks is the practical cap, 16 on crit on 14 stacks is possible but decays to 15 and is not refreshable (whereas 15 is)

Not saying you're wrong, just clarifying Fatshark's wacky system for anyone who might not know

[nocturne dust]

Every meta staff build is a soulblaze build

Because soulblaze is really good at spitting out damage, especially the denser enemy counts get

which means higher difficulties is where soulblaze reigns supreme

[weak sierra]

Not to mention light's out missions. It highlights every enemy's head that's hit by it.

[nocturne dust]

also, Creeping Flames and Perilous Combustion go up to 31, whereas Blazing Spirit on Voidblast goes to 6 and Melee Blazing Spirit goes to 8.. I think? 8 or 12 iirc, I forget.

[tired estuary]

also critbuild on trauma means you're doing more dmg vs anything hit off center when it procs

[ivory monolith]

Wildfire
When an Enemy dies while affected by your Soulblaze, nearby Enemies each gain up to 4 Stacks of Soulblaze. They cannot gain more stacks than the dying Enemy had.

[marble crater]

It's another soulblaze debate

[static sonnet]

Everyday

[ivory monolith]

so yes its speading among enemys but it didnt go higher then if u kill 1 elite it will be still deadling like 8 dmg

[static sonnet]

I just wish they removed the "can't gain more than they had" would be goated

[nocturne dust]

Buffs let it kill horde

and also

do I really need the wildfire copypasta? 😭

[weak sierra]

That's what the Voidstrike staff with Blazing Spirit and extra crits is for. You kill specials and elites far away and it spreads the blaze onto everything around them.

[static sonnet]

Yes I've not seen it hit me

[nocturne dust]

read it

[ivory monolith]

another talant if u kill elite it starts soulblaze. but lets say 5 shotgunners running on u. if um blowing up them usually i get 1 kill.another elite kills getting my teammates who is involved. so it didnt trigger on assists

[static sonnet]

Ah I'm using an older app version that can't see that for some reason, sorry, thanks tho

[nocturne dust]

Blazing Spirit actually sucks on everything that isn't Voidblast

origino

[nocturne dust]

try that origino

[nocturne dust]

Lmao, Perilous Combustion is possibly the strongest talent in the tree

[marble crater]

Shhh

[nocturne dust]

If 250 shotgunners run at you, 240 will die from PC

That's not a joke either

You can literally start a self-sustaining PC murderblaze in the Psykhanium

[analog agate]

Wait. You said you like VB. What build are you using without wildfire and PC?

[weak sierra]

How do you figure? You can hit a lot of enemies with a charged attack, same as with voidblast. And the current build I'm running is spec'd heavily into soulblaze. The melee weapon is a force sword with blazing spirit as well.

[ivory monolith]

wildfire spreads but in small radius so basically it triggers best when using meele. but it dealing full dmg so slow. by this time i will kill enemys with same count of meele or staff hits so it dont do anything for me

[nocturne dust]

the on-crit means you kill the thing with the crit and soulblaze doesn't even get applied

also Voidstrike's blast radius is trash

[ivory monolith]

srry for language barrier

[nocturne dust]

and the end explosion is trash

[ivory monolith]

im using voidblast

[nocturne dust]

which is why Voidstrike's dump is blast radius, which only affects the end explosion

[nocturne dust]

yeh, ik

I'm talking to other guy

[narrow herald]

Dead void are we having a great wildfire debate again? 😈

[ivory monolith]

oh srry

[nocturne dust]

no, plz 😭

The noobs are too much

[ivory monolith]

ye i started it

[narrow herald]

Wait what do noobs say about wildfire anyways?

[nocturne dust]

It spreads from the point of the dead enemy, not from you

[marble crater]

For anyone curious

[nocturne dust]

that it sucks

[narrow herald]

On what staff?

[nocturne dust]

yes

😭

[narrow herald]

😈

I don't take wildfire if the only source of soul blaze is from perilous combustion

The only exception is Smite

[plucky flax]

It sucks

[ivory monolith]

video is working for u all?

[nocturne dust]

Shush you, stop trolling

They'll believe it and you'll spread misinformation and then the world will end

or something

[narrow herald]

Mr T already did that long ago 🚬

[nocturne dust]

well, yeah....

Nobody even reads the copypasta 😭

[nocturne dust]

si

[narrow herald]

Soulblaze illusi when????

[narrow herald]

Wait can u take soulblaze on the force swords? 🤔

[nocturne dust]

https://youtu.be/wbbcne4UvWc

[marble crater]

Let's say no

[nocturne dust]

Free random youtube background noise also

[nocturne dust]

you can

You also shouldn't

[narrow herald]

Fatshark, make it so that soulblaze is applied on death and my life is yours

[nocturne dust]

Wouldn't be good

You would need wildfire to spread it, but then you would have to avoid assail on a melee build (ew) and also have a point tax for lightning speed on a melee build (ew)

[narrow herald]

BB is my range

[nocturne dust]

There's a reason fire sword is a notorious meme and not a real build. You have to dump damage to make it work

(it being soulblaze)

[ivory monolith]

i think for soulblaze build u need more sources of soulblaze over then talent three only

[nocturne dust]

No

[nocturne dust]

EK staff's meta build is soulblaze

[ivory monolith]

witch is not for me cuz im using dueling sword and voidblast

[nocturne dust]

and it takes all 3 soulblaze talents (PC, wildfire, creeping flames) and has no other sources

[ivory monolith]

what is ek

[nocturne dust]

electrokinetic staff

it is a PC enabler

and is the meta staff for auric

That's how good PC is

[narrow herald]

Show me

[nocturne dust]

see pins

[ivory monolith]

never used it btw

[nocturne dust]

I mean, the meta for Voidblast (Trauma) is Fire Trauma

the one time Blazing Spirit is good

[ivory monolith]

i tried it ones, it heeds like multiple charged hits to kill any elite

[ivory monolith]

what is fire trauma

[narrow herald]

Wait that's just the Atlas build

[nocturne dust]

trauma staff (also known as Voidblast) built around soulblaze

[nocturne dust]

It's an old build, yeah

nothing new

Rending Trauma is Havoc meta tho

[nocturne dust]

That's Trauma

The hit count isn't important on single targets

[ivory monolith]

hm maybe its best for havok 40. cuz im stuck at havok 20

[nocturne dust]

Soulblaze is for other targets

[nocturne dust]

no, that's Rending Trauma

[weary idol]

it's fun staff meta too

[nocturne dust]

Fire Trauma should be stronger mid Havoc

The point of soulblaze isn't to reduce your hit count

It's to kill everything you aren't hitting with the circle

because soulblaze applies in your full explosion range, and the circle, where most of your damage is, is the epicenter

your full explosion range is huge

so soulblaze gets applied over a huge radius

so the whole horde dies to your soulblaze while you explode elites

that's why Fire Trauma is strong

[narrow herald]

Wait with the ecltro build can I go blaze illusi?

[nocturne dust]

You... can.

Shouldn't.

[narrow herald]

Nuff said

[nocturne dust]

If you mean Blazing Spirit Illisi.

[ivory monolith]

oh i see it now

[nocturne dust]

As said, Blazing Spirit is only good on trauma

Everywhere else, the crit means anything you hit dies to the crit and not soulblaze

[ivory monolith]

maybe u right lil bro

[nocturne dust]

but since Trauma has a huge explosion that does low damage even on a crit, soulblaze maxxing

[marble crater]

Holy notifications

[nocturne dust]

You do need to build for crit tho

The fire trauma build is in the pins, but basically you need warp nexus and it's recommended you also take a crit chance weapon perk.

but, psyker is a crit engine on every build compared to other classes

[cloud night]

I've learned the other day that FGS kinda feels like shit on any staff build/loadout

Ill keep it on my scriers build

[prime elk]

i think it's ok as a staff sidearm

but you'll be sloooow

[cloud night]

Yea being slow is the problem for me

I need the speed the force sword or ds has

No, I will not run knife
I run that on vet and zealot as is

[marble crater]

Only British people should run knife

[nocturne dust]

I take it as a staff sidearm

Mobility melee is better for staff, yeah, but FGS fun

[ivory monolith]

btw fire trauma build any good for applying soulblaze on bosses?

[analog agate]

Yeah, fgs feels like shit with EK. But I have gotten into situations where it saves me compared to other melee

[analog agate]

Not really

[nocturne dust]

no

Only Inferno can do soulblaze on bosses well

EK can do decent boss damage regardless but

no staff is a boss killer

best bet for damage is swap to melee and charge

[analog agate]

Inferno has going for it you can do boss dmg and horde clear at same time. Which is really good

[nocturne dust]

Yeah

Inferno and EK are the only staves I'll stay on when only the boss is around, they're much safer than melee

[zinc atlas]

guys what's the dump stat oin blaze greatsword?

[marble crater]

Warp res of course