psyker-class

[long wharf]

panic licking is never recommended

[zinc phoenix]

Idk what’s the point of it

“Stand in one place grinding baddies” seems kinda dull

Half the fun of the game is figuring out how and when to move from point to point

[upper sun]

it sounds great ill finally finish the poxbreaker penance

[patent mango]

https://tenor.com/dfYhetL2NXo.gif

[buoyant maple]

what's ur progress on that

[upper sun]

like 997.... etc

[patent mango]

only 997 kills.......

[upper sun]

no

[patent mango]

literally 1997....

[clear heath]

clad is just that weak

never kills enemies

[upper sun]

like 30k?

what is it 1 mil?

[patent mango]

2 days until havoc hecking explodes

[granite mauve]

for poxbreaker ?

[marble crater]

Yes

[granite mauve]

it's 1 million

i'm close

[marble crater]

I'm at like 755k

[granite mauve]

i forgot a number

[marble crater]

You still forgot one

[granite mauve]

i forgot another

[marble crater]

[marble crater]

[buoyant maple]

That’s pretty close

[marble crater]

Only need to play another third of the playtime I already have

[buoyant maple]

Spawn camp baross mid event

[granite mauve]

ik i have 9 as the first number so i'm frustratingly close

[marble crater]

I could do that in pubs

[granite mauve]

will get it when ogryn patch drops for sure

[marble crater]

Suddenly 100% ogryn play rate

[upper sun]

🚬 2 people here still dont have ogryn....

[uncut sinew]

heresy.

[wispy bay]

Are you one of them, Clad?

[analog agate]

Psyker community gonna have to power level beans

[upper sun]

no!!!!!

[wispy bay]

Good good

[upper sun]

thuddo aka ILETYOUSOLO is max level and has god rolls of every weapon

[drifting steeple]

smite or brain blast for a soulblaze build

[fathom adder]

smite
No

[drifting steeple]

[verbal thistle]

Nope, it does too much especially in a civi which is only elites

[plucky flax]

Autopistol is legit can't believe they're buffing this OP gun.

[cosmic sigil]

What was your ranged?

[verbal thistle]

Shredder

[cosmic sigil]

You went ethical as fuck

You did 800k with a shredder and taxe???????

[verbal thistle]

It was a civi so numbers get a little higher than a normal mission

But yes

[cosmic sigil]

My FG

The shredder was for specialists I assume

[verbal thistle]

And toughness

Or stagger

[past crypt]

I need guidance to have ultimate flame build for the psyker what things should I invest in Im lvl 18

[cosmic sigil]

Assail

[autumn lark]

First step

Get to lvl 30

[verbal thistle]

As you are leveling, having best gear isn't worth it. Get to level 30 first

[cosmic sigil]

bA + inspiring?

[fringe tangle]

Need level 30.

[verbal thistle]

Assail makes leveling easier

[fringe tangle]

Real game starts at level 30

[past crypt]

Thanks

[drifting steeple]

does anyone have any soulblaze builds i could look at?

[past crypt]

What is the best way to level up

[marble crater]

Just play the highest difficulty you can win at with modifiers you can win, exp perks on curios also help

And use assail

[marble crater]

There are some builds pinned here, they should have soulblaze

[fringe tangle]

Play highest difficulty you're able to consistently clear. XP curios also help.

[plucky flax]

Just exploded because of warp unbound bug.

I ragequitted.

[marble crater]

[upper sun]

valid

always quit if the game fucks up

[rain barn]

For a psyker staff so you want quell speed or warp resistance?

[autumn smelt]

Skill issue
Just change the code

[plucky flax]

True let me just live in the server with 0 ping.

So no more explode.

[marble crater]

Warp resistance is psyker dump stat for everything except voidSTRIKE, there it's blast radius

[upper sun]

just host ur own server noob

[rain barn]

Cool so a 80 in everything and 60 in warp resistance for a inferno staff would be best, correct?

[plucky flax]

Yeah gonna go buy some amazon server right now

[marble crater]

Yes

[rain barn]

Also debating on duelling sword or blaze force. (Also is it me or does that look like a typo, copied from in game name)

[drifting steeple]

i just spent all my ordo

thank you

SuTvVoO

[rain barn]

O.o I was asking cause vendor was selling it

[marble crater]

Both are great, try Dueling Sword 4, and Illisi/Deimos for Force Swords

Dueling Sword has a lot more mobility and easier combo against armored targets, Force Swords can have deflector to block bullets and have a nice push attack

[rain barn]

The in game name has 2 L's

[marble crater]

Both are right, one of those British vs. American English things

[plucky flax]

It should be 2 l

[drifting steeple]

i need a mod to make the force block sound a little louder

its wayyy to quiet compared to other block sounds

[marble crater]

Not loud enough?

[drifting steeple]

its quiet

[marble crater]

[idle plover]

shotgun psyker pretty rad

[proper osprey]

What the slop is that

[idle plover]

damnation viable

[strong gulch]

Just paid 50K ordos for a different shirt color

WTF

We don't get immediate access to the meat grinder??? 😭

[grizzled sierra]

trust 2 is fast

run a mission

[strong gulch]

No

gib now

[marble crater]

Please tell me this is for an ogryn

[strong gulch]

Ye. Not psyker again. I still have a baby one.

[patent steeple]

you made a new character? I don't recall the PS wiping your trust level... (Personality Scourge, not Power Sword, though that would be very funny and fitting, seeing as playing with a power sword is worth losing all trust)

[marble crater]

Thank god

Sorry, thank the God Emperor of Mankind

[strong gulch]

New characters have to get their own trust.

[strong gulch]

I have 1 character slot left.

[marble crater]

At least we can skip the tutorial

[marble crater]

Time for vet or zealot

[patent steeple]

I have one of each already, and thanks to personality scourge, I don't need to make another...

[strong gulch]

I have a baby vet. Believe it or not. I have a leveled zealot. When did I have time to level zealot?? I don't remember.

[strong gulch]

Just make 4 of the same class with the same personality.

[jovial juniper]

Oggy when
Kevin Hart posing

[marble crater]

Same, only two psykers for more builds but now I don't even play havoc anymore and don't need the extra loadouts

[marble crater]

Time to power level vet and ogryn then

[strong gulch]

True. Vet has only known auric T5. (I died a lot)

[marble crater]

I also can't play vet well

[strong gulch]

I sure can't. To be fair tho. Vet is level 12 or 15 with grey weapons and no curios. IDK if he even had talent points.

Actually worse than a bot.

[small whale]

I feel like psyker is the worst underlevel

actually bb is pretty strong

[strong gulch]

Psyker can breathe at least. Vet is winded af.

[paper harbor]

it is one of the water supply?

[upper sun]

ye

[paper harbor]

thats why bubble psyker come in

or the frontal shield one

[upper sun]

nah trauma is better

trauma can pop them very easily

[strong gulch]

Pop them zits

[paper harbor]

the voidblast is fun use

yes

it good for clutter enemy

[strong gulch]

And clusters of zits. Explode them with a single boom

Also, lol. Get KF'd platform trapper.

[paper harbor]

i made the kinetic deflecton meme build

is alright

i didn't use venting shriek, since my teammate are ass to taking care ranged

[strong gulch]

You mean all stam curios with deflector and KD?

[marble crater]

And people say KF is bad

[paper harbor]

deflector too

i really do pushing room, crusher can get stagger from mush attack by force sword

a spamming push, and gun blocker

even save breathing room for other teammate revive when dreg ragers around

[wanton fossil]

What blessings should i put on my voidstrike ?

[paper harbor]

hunting ground are funny i push a lot

[paper harbor]

@strong gulch do you think surge is worth for voidstrike?

[strong gulch]

flak + crit chance and surge + nexus.

[paper harbor]

i thinking on crits charge attack double it

[strong gulch]

True aim and DD are assumed

[strong gulch]

It's meta

[paper harbor]

^

#veteran-class message

@strong gulch here

[wanton fossil]

I am talking about the cannon Ball

[clear heath]

it's so cursed

[paper harbor]

yeah surge has on voidstrike

you charge attack if your attack score crits it double the shot

[wanton fossil]

So 2 cannon Balls?

[paper harbor]

yes

[strong gulch]

Yes. Voidstrike. Ball maxxing staff. 🫡

flak + crit chance and surge + nexus

Take true aim and DD in the tree.

[wanton fossil]

Damn this is complicated

[paper harbor]

it's like warframe

[wanton fossil]

Now it's even more vomplicated

[strong gulch]

Voidstrike + shriek.

[paper harbor]

(I can't get over i accidental purchased 310 $90 worth of weapon slots)

[wanton fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/kung-fu-panda-oogway-accidents-there-are-no-accidents-destiny-gif-16270886

[strong gulch]

What Json said. Cursed

[autumn lark]

in what game

[paper harbor]

grindframe

[autumn lark]

cant you justy yknow

ask for a refund

[paper harbor]

i did wait for support

is been 10 hour

[clear heath]

lmao

[paper harbor]

probably the update they drop techrot encore encouter lot of bugs

that's why ticket are maybe flooded

[wanton fossil]

DD?

[strong gulch]

Disrupt Density. Right keystone.

[wanton fossil]

Ah allright

[cosmic sigil]

What was your build? Assail or Bb pathing?

[verbal thistle]

assail

[upper sun]

do you really need the extra assail cleave if you have the peril cleave?

[marble crater]

More cleave is more gooder

[cosmic sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/euphoria-pop-art-the-feels-meme-gif-11334684

[verbal thistle]

yes

[upper sun]

i would recommend a defensive node instead of the assail cleave in case you run into toughness problems

[strong gulch]

Ainz has fewer skill issues and I'd probably also pick extra assail cleave if avoiding PC.

I'd just just die.

look at these skills

[marble crater]

Mutie grab compilation when?

[strong gulch]

[upper sun]

i would have just quit the game

[strong gulch]

But I was playing with you. I stay for frens

[upper sun]

oh shit that was yesterday

🚬 what was i doing

[strong gulch]

Also those 12 dogs getting creeping flamed to death was nice

[upper sun]

i think i forgot i had rocks

[marble crater]

Yeah, why didn't you help?

[upper sun]

ohhh

i used them

clip starts with me at zero rocks

[strong gulch]

I ran back because of a special and an idol was whispering. You were in in the correct place.

[marble crater]

How convenient

[upper sun]

oh shit havoc is offline on the 23rd

[near gale]

the legendary triple grab lol

[strong gulch]

I got the idol tho. Later I tried to get another that was stuck in ice, but a horde pushed me off of it, then the zealot ran up and hit the idol. 😭
https://youtu.be/DDCA9QogzEc?si=SnGU1fIlP4oVquvQ&t=1188

Timestamped at trying to get idol

[marble crater]

[strong gulch]

sad moment

[upper sun]

🚬 least damage taken as ogryn

[strong gulch]

bestgryn

[upper sun]

(2836442 toughness damage reduction)

i think i need 3 hits to have something breakthrough

thats the real secret

[strong gulch]

secret

[upper sun]

yes very secret 🤫

but yeah heavy hitter is kinda w/e right now

i dont really see a point in using it on shield for example

[wispy bay]

I will report that to FS>

Time to nerf orgryn

Prepatch nerf

[upper sun]

my build is pretty much every toughness node i can get

[wispy bay]

Patch note: Orgryn new tree is too strong. All node values are halved.

[radiant frigate]

instructions unclear, lowering all ogryn damage by half

[jovial juniper]

So you just reverted the buff to the CRIT damage

Kek

[upper sun]

i am SO hype for the ogryn update

the amount of improvement from the psyker tree to the ogryn tree is exponential

[patent mango]

they finally learned how to make a good tree

[upper sun]

ikr

[patent mango]

very few slop talents and free blitz choice

its so peak...

[upper sun]

🚬 i wonder how long its gonna be until psyker vet and zealot get the same treatment

[patent mango]

psyker will get it last probably

[upper sun]

ok i can kinda understand blitz being locked for psyker

since its a bigger part of the class identiy

[patent mango]

cause psyker tree is the least abysmal psyker can survive getting like 1 or 2 tlaent changes every once in a while

[upper sun]

ye

[patent mango]

zealot on the otehr hand lmfaooo

[upper sun]

like at the very least they can do 1 or 2 small changes

[patent mango]

i just want charged strike to be good and im happy

[patent mango]

vet needs ability changes so bad

[upper sun]

vet needs to be deleted

[patent mango]

lmfao

[upper sun]

sooo soo eepy...

still have 20 pages of slop notes to format....

why cant my classmates preformat their slop

[patent mango]

eat your slop

[buoyant maple]

I can prob try to make a veteran tree framework when I'm bored

[upper sun]

"its the same as the one now but theres a singular node before and after blitz"

[buoyant maple]

nah

I was thinking abt it today actually

[upper sun]

you gotta admit tho

that would be a huge improvement

[buoyant maple]

I have some talent change ideas

and structural changes to tree

[upper sun]

do it

when beg a playtester to send it to the devs

[marble crater]

You will do anything to avoid writing the guide on steam huh?

[patent mango]

they cooked so hard with ogryn free blitz

[buoyant maple]

I just finished chainaxe sections (2)

[marble crater]

[patent mango]

i wonder how much it'd help vet ability choice if they just increased shout cd

[buoyant maple]

would help but not enough

[patent mango]

true

[plucky flax]

Free rocks

[patent mango]

my idea is that they should move some power from shout to talents

but idk

[upper sun]

FREE ROCKS(i miss a lot)

[marble crater]

[plucky flax]

It's mostly will be for missed rocks.

Aiming rocks headshot takes too long tbh.

[patent mango]

i mean its faster now

[plucky flax]

Like when a mutie charging at you you not gonna aim head.

[patent mango]

like a bit faster to switch

[plucky flax]

Ye but I have never really tried to aim head unless I am rocking a reaper.

[upper sun]

yeah

but its great on bosses

[strong gulch]

@upper sun @analog agate I made an oggy

[patent mango]

does it stagger boss i dont rember

[upper sun]

HELL YEAH

if i finish early we can play

[strong gulch]

kk

[patent mango]

i can hop on for ogryn gaming

[strong gulch]

I am boiling water rn. I'll be done with that in a lil bit

[plucky flax]

When patch?

Tuesday?

[patent mango]

25th

[plucky flax]

Don't think I can play until Thursday

Travelling to Scotland on Monday. I'll have my laptop but probably no gaming

[buoyant maple]

actually I'm making it rn

[deft stump]

REMEMBER TO PACK CHARGER.

[plucky flax]

Probably watch tv shows at night

[deft stump]

Go read yuri mangas, is gud.

[plucky flax]

Lewd ones?

[deft stump]

Ether.

I like more floofy ones.

[strong gulch]

done

[marble crater]

https://imgflip.com/i/9o7umf

[cosmic sigil]

I prefer hard rocks.

[buoyant maple]

progress so far

[wispy bay]

Rock is fun, but overrated.

[upper sun]

no unified nodes before and after blitz = 💩

[buoyant maple]

what are u talking about

unified before with demo stockpile (60s regen)

[upper sun]

single node after the blitz

[buoyant maple]

I combined a bunch of the small nodes into single nodes

[upper sun]

no

[buoyant maple]

10% TDR and 5% TDR got combined into x85% TDR at the top

[clear heath]

i'm not really a fan of serrated blade being locked under smoke

no one's gonna pick it

[buoyant maple]

I should also write abt some talent changes for this later

but essentially

out for blood is getting changed

gain X% toughness per hit vs bleeding enemy

[brazen rampart]

Why close order drill on the left?

[buoyant maple]

this gives veteran an option to gain toughness in combat without kills

[brazen rampart]

Also locking serrated blade under smoke is yeesh.

[upper sun]

fixed

[clear heath]

I like stacking serrated blade with shredder nades is the thing

[brazen rampart]

Well actually you can still grab it.

[brazen rampart]

No.

[upper sun]

yes

FREE BLITZ NOW

[buoyant maple]

it's a very strong TDR talent that is a bit too strong in combination with other sources of TDR, so I took a point-tax route for that going into VoC (has to be standalone pick)

[brazen rampart]

Path is cooking so far, I just dislike the placement of close order drill rn.

[buoyant maple]

u can still get close order with VoC

u just can't take close order on the way to VoC

also another talent change

killzone

[brazen rampart]

Now what is your rework of competitive urge?

[buoyant maple]

for 5s after ranged weakspot kill, gain +20%Rdmg

[brazen rampart]

Because that talent sucks.

[clear heath]

I don't see a path to it unless you're allowed to connect upwards

[brazen rampart]

It's sideways.

Those talents are on the same level.

[clear heath]

no but there's no sideways connector between them

[buoyant maple]

5% chance to activate
+10%Matk speed
+10%Tcrit chance

[brazen rampart]

Get back in the fight connects.

Scuse me leave no one behind.

[buoyant maple]

u can go survivalist -> close order
while taking survivalist -> opening salvo -> GBITF -> VoC

[brazen rampart]

I mix those up alot.

[brazen rampart]

Talking about serrated blade.

[buoyant maple]

serrated blade is intentionally blocked off from shredder

because of my planned O4B change

[brazen rampart]

I was thinking it was locked under smokes but you've got a path between serrated blade and leave no one behind.

[upper sun]

the thing happened bros.......

[buoyant maple]

gain X% toughness per hit vs bleeding enemy
is added to O4B

[brazen rampart]

L

[buoyant maple]

prob 5%

so this means if u take O4B, serrated gives u non-kill-based melee toughness gain

[clear heath]

how?

[buoyant maple]

yea this does not work

[clear heath]

serrated blade requires going up from competitive urg to leave no one behind

[buoyant maple]

they're mutually exclusive

[clear heath]

this kills my bleed build...

[brazen rampart]

Leave no one behind touches serrated blade.

They are on the same level, they cost the same amount of points.

[buoyant maple]

can only be accessed via krak

can't be accessed from shredder

[brazen rampart]

Ou that's what you meant.

[clear heath]

but how do you reach leave no one behind if you:re starting from shredder?

[brazen rampart]

That doesn't matter much tbh.

[buoyant maple]

the idea is

if u have O4B

u either have shredder for bleed

[brazen rampart]

Shredders are op enough that you don't really need them for a build to take serrated blade.

[buoyant maple]

or serrated

one is more consistent than the other

but shredder also does AoE for u

[brazen rampart]

Path you're forgetting the loveliest blessing of all...

[buoyant maple]

so they're made mutually exclusive

[clear heath]

stacking up shredder bleed with serrated was like the only fun usecase of serrated though

[brazen rampart]

Lacerate knife...

[brazen rampart]

Wrong.

[clear heath]

i am not touching lacerate

[brazen rampart]

And he's making serrated have a use.

Serrated enables o4b toughness generation.

[upper sun]

i forgot how much fun this was

[buoyant maple]

I think with O4B gaining toughness from hitting bleeding enemies, serrated becomes almost like second wind in terms of value

it would be a really strong combination

[clear heath]

I'm more annoyed with a playstyle disappearing than about whether or not it's strong

[buoyant maple]

it's ok

[clear heath]

yeah sure, toughness on hitting bleed can be strong

[brazen rampart]

A playstyle isn't "disappearing" if the playstyle never existed in the first place.

[clear heath]

it's just that boosting bleed stacks is fun

[brazen rampart]

You just like the haha funny max bleed stacks.

[buoyant maple]

barrel thyself

[upper sun]

no u

[buoyant maple]

anyways if my design looks funny

it's because I'm listening to Ave Mujica

https://tenor.com/view/happy-steam-steamhappy-gif-11912067498964962572

[brazen rampart]

The design is fine.

I just don't like close quarters killzone being locked way over there.

Seems counterintuitive to the ranged playstyle of left side.

Honestly, I'd put iron will over there instead.

[buoyant maple]

I didn't add CQKZ yet

or iron will

[brazen rampart]

Oh oops I meant the tdr one.

The more tdr for more allies in coherency.

[clear heath]

I think locking builds behind grenade choices is like the main complaint of vet and zealot tree and this one locks out nodes even harder behind nade choices

[brazen rampart]

The names are similar.

Close order drill.

[brazen rampart]

I think you're making a complaint about one very specific niche for no reason tbh.

[buoyant maple]

the main complaint for veteran is

1. talent bloat
2. you quite literally pay point tax to not use VoC

[brazen rampart]

^

Too many talents with too few functions.

Also you gimp yourself if you don't take iron will so that's a mandatory point tax.

Anyway @buoyant maple I would put iron will where close order drill is and put close order drill in the middle pathing somewhere.

[buoyant maple]

I want to keep iron will in middle tbh

[autumn lark]

i think the vet tree needs to be reworked so the keystones are actualy important to get

[buoyant maple]

u also have to consider that

[brazen rampart]

I would also change iron will.

[buoyant maple]

the top half actually gives u quite a bit of TDR already

exhilarating takedown + x85% TDR

[brazen rampart]

Make it only affect ranged attacks, or significantly nerf its effectiveness against melee.

[cosmic sigil]

Zealot is the opposite lol

[brazen rampart]

Not really.

[buoyant maple]

I think iron will is alright

[brazen rampart]

You pay point tax by not pathing tknives because second wind is the only viable toughness generation zealout has.

It's not that tknives are overly good like voc is, it's the talents above them.

[buoyant maple]

iron will is basically enduring faith but worse lol

[brazen rampart]

Also we do have talent bloat in zeal tree, look at middle tree and right tree talents above their auras.

[cosmic sigil]

Ah I see what you mean

[buoyant maple]

like, make keystones OP?

[cosmic sigil]

What I wanted to say is that not taking that route is taxing you

[brazen rampart]

So its either
A) path tknives
Or
B) suffer a 4 point tax to get decent toughness gen

[autumn lark]

did i say that you goober

https://tenor.com/view/invincible-invincible-war-animation-sakuga-movement-gif-8588046742884701555

[buoyant maple]

I mean
In the draft I posted
u can reach keystone in 16 points

[cosmic sigil]

They could fix a lot of things by changing just that part in the tree

[buoyant maple]

[clear heath]

it's not just serrated that's bothering me. It's a bunch of nodes locked behind grenades for no reason.
Why can't smoke users get survivalist? Why aren't shredder nades allowed agile engagement

The good parts of the ogryn rework tree is the freedom to create your own playstyle.
This proposed vet tree just turns it into 3 separate builds

[cosmic sigil]

Because nobody would take smokes maybe?

[clear heath]

then why lock survivalist away from smokes?

[buoyant maple]

AE is very strong on its own that I find mutual exclusivity with another very strong item (frag) fine

[still valve]

How did this channel turn into #veteran-class

[patent mango]

does zealot even have talents

[brazen rampart]

We have second wind, duellist, and until death. The rest don't matter.

[cosmic sigil]

Let's be real. Vet's and zealot's tree are relic of the past

[patent mango]

those are more like built in passives

[cosmic sigil]

They will certainly change and look more like ogryn's or psyker's

[clear heath]

I think i'd rather the nades get balanced rather than locking nodes behind smoke because it's "weaker"

[patent mango]

why do smoke nades exist

[buoyant maple]

I do have frag nerf planned (reduce bleed stack)

[buoyant maple]

so that bubble can be worthless when smoke is used

[brazen rampart]

Smoke Grenades are also inherently kinda bad because of how enemies handle shooting at you.

Actually that's not right.

[upper sun]

replace smokes with mines

[brazen rampart]

I meant to say there are counterintuitive.

You would normally throw a smoke (irl at least) for concealment to flee or reposition to better handle an enemy position, and people use it this way.

When in reality it's better to smoke the enemy in the game than yourself.

[clear heath]

This just restricts freedom so much.
Like someone who wants smokes + exec has to grab a very specific set of 6 nodes

[buoyant maple]

not true in game

[brazen rampart]

TITANFALL 2 IS 3 DOLLARS

WHAT

YOINK

[upper sun]

its not darktide tho

[clear heath]

You've made 6 point mandatory tax for exec + smoke

[buoyant maple]

I'll think abt it

[brazen rampart]

Yeah, it's better.

[upper sun]

🚬 fine lemme sell some slop

[brazen rampart]

@buoyant maple on the topic of exe stance, could you propose a rework to the outline to more easily see what is and isn't obscured by cover?

[patent mango]

y'know i just remembered i said i'd hop on darktide but i forgor and im playing grounded now

[buoyant maple]

to be entirely honest
I don't think it should even be a real playstyle given how it's already taxed badly in game
and exe stance really benefits from a strong stagger / target removal tool

[clear heath]

I didn't realize how much i want this until you mentioned

[patent mango]

does anyone even use smoke

like ever

[clear heath]

I honestly think smoke + exec is a cooler combo than stealth + smoke and i hate how much fatshark discourages it

stealth + smoke is some backwards shit anyways

[autumn lark]

I genuinely want vet to get remote detonated charges or indeed mines

[patent mango]

why does vet also have stealth anyways

[clear heath]

doubling up on them not being able to see me is so fucking weird as a concept

[patent mango]

the entire right side is fricked other than wep specialist hwich is good

[brazen rampart]

Fucking actually cod style c4 would be hilarious.

[buoyant maple]

nah

right side has some insane picks

[autumn lark]

https://tenor.com/view/deep-rock-galactic-die-death-murder-friendly-fire-gif-27571706

[clear heath]

lets turn invisible after blinding people
lets blind them when i'm invisible
yeah really synergistic concept

[autumn lark]

Right side vet is strong asf

[clear heath]

smoking and sniping them out with exec at least makes sense conceptually.

(also helps with the fact that i can't fucking see with the smoke)

[brazen rampart]

I would make exposed parts of enemies stay the gold outline but anything behind cover be outlined in red.

[patent mango]

ig the talents r good at least

[autumn lark]

Would never take smokes tho

Krak grenades exist

[buoyant maple]

wdyt if krak and smoke positions were reversed in my framework

smoke in middle, krak on right

[clear heath]

hmm, not sure.
I'm open to the idea

[autumn lark]

Peak

[buoyant maple]

in my framework I meant

[clear heath]

I just think locking things arbitrarily behind grenades is bad in general

[autumn lark]

Sometimes i can read

[clear heath]

Whole point of having the tree instead of just 3 different subclasses with the old feat system is to have the freedom to choose between ability/keystone/blitz while still having meaningful choices in between

[buoyant maple]

I do have some ideas for smoke

increased stagger from detonation
infinite stamina while concealed (stamina locked at 100%)

[patent mango]

make smokes cleansing poison

[clear heath]

that could be really fun

[patent mango]

lmao

soap smooke

[buoyant maple]

so if smoke is in middle that means u could

[autumn lark]

Smokes are now green

[buoyant maple]

block indefinitely

[patent mango]

no thats tox

[autumn lark]

And will play skrillex

[clear heath]

I think smokes having more stagger would automatically make it 10000% more usable by most normal players

[buoyant maple]

and slightly more importantly

u have infinite deadshot while inside smoke

[autumn lark]

https://tenor.com/view/flamethrower-farcry3-weed-burn-gif-20946071

[buoyant maple]

I think could be a rly cool interaction tbh

[clear heath]

Also the stamina thing would go hard with knife
which is also thematically appropriate so that's pretty neat

the knife push attack spam going crazy

[autumn lark]

Being inside of smoke now gives you the same effect as infiltrate

Increase smoke radius by 50%

[buoyant maple]

ok version 2

[autumn lark]

Field improv being the first talent

https://tenor.com/view/someone-cooked-here-breaking-bad-walter-white-gif-579099896864746534

[buoyant maple]

yea that was intentional

[upper sun]

no single node after blitz

[buoyant maple]

what single node do u want

[clear heath]

He just wants a connector for it

doesn't matter what

[buoyant maple]

I'm not against the idea

[upper sun]

i want to be able to pick shredders with serrated blade

[patent mango]

hecking movement speed lmao

[buoyant maple]

but idk which existing talent is good for that role

[clear heath]

I assume the same reason as I have, about not having arbitrary restriction on the rest of the tree for picking a nade

[autumn lark]

Hey uh path

[cosmic sigil]

Ohhh I'd love a mine bomb

[autumn lark]

Can you bundle up all grenade talents into the middle tree

[upper sun]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914161923334214/1349705273769463910/image.png?ex=67df473d&is=67ddf5bd&hm=524592e41db2c9462778c70010e963f6412c9d2345d8ad9947d71a30768b94fa&
anything that doesnt have this is WRONG

[autumn lark]

I do not want that point tax just for twinned blast if im using kraks

[upper sun]

yeah

say no to taxes kids

[buoyant maple]

krak cannot use twinned blast in my framework

twinned blast is shredder exclusive

[clear heath]

Okay tbf twinned blast on anything but shredders is kinda weird

[buoyant maple]

exactly

[autumn lark]

https://tenor.com/view/jinx-jinx-arcane-arcane-arcane-season-2-arcane-s2-gif-15360738117589789531

[clear heath]

the shit doesn't really function with smokes at all too

[autumn lark]

Then make it function

[clear heath]

although kraks it at least has some use against a boss

[autumn lark]

I love using twinned blast with kraks

[buoyant maple]

no

krak gets grenadier

+1 reserve

[upper sun]

ehm ehm

[patent mango]

thats so many connectors LOL

[upper sun]

heh

[clear heath]

that's just one extra node connecting them all

[upper sun]

just like my charging station

[buoyant maple]

I need a better software to make this

I'm doing it in MS word and it's pure agony

[autumn lark]

Adobe photoshop premium

[clear heath]

But yeah, i'm in the same boat with wanting a connector
Because I don't think it's fair to have 6 mandatory nodes between nade and ability if you dare to have an unapproved blitz/ability combo.
6 less decisions that you are allowed to make in a tree for having the audacity to want 2 things

[buoyant maple]

fund me

[patent mango]

cant you do paint.net

[buoyant maple]

I wish powerpoint could like

be vertical

[autumn lark]

There are other ways

[cosmic sigil]

It can be

Just make the slide a portrait

[buoyant maple]

ok cool

I'll do it in powerpoint then

[cosmic sigil]

It's an option that's not hidden at all. I think you can access it with a right click on the slide

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/change-the-page-orientation-in-powerpoint-between-landscape-and-portrait-9e64b176-7d80-4390-84d2-f61247209780

[buoyant maple]

yea I just did

[autumn lark]

https://tenor.com/view/jd-jd-vance-vance-vpn-fat-gif-3934643206448588515

[prime elk]

don't pay for ps

[clear heath]

wait you're using word?

[prime elk]

and there's photopea, which is almost exactly like PS, in-browser, and free

[clear heath]

how tf

[buoyant maple]

yea

[clear heath]

I have no idea how you even made this in word

didn't know it could do that

[buoyant maple]

welcome to nightmare fuel

[autumn lark]

Crazy work

[clear heath]

insanity

[patent mango]

virtual

[buoyant maple]

ok lemme redo this

[patent mango]

does vet have dedicated playtesters like ogryn sorta does?

[buoyant maple]

maybe? idk

I'm not playtester

[patent mango]

lol

they could always just not yap much so we wouldnt know

[marble crater]

Vet playtester probably talk in binary and other numbers, so we wouldn't be able to understand them

[strong gulch]

Just no PA 😭

[brazen rampart]

@buoyant maple are you going to make vets red nodes mutually exclusive?

[buoyant maple]

no

I'm changing stuff rn in powerpoint

@clear heath @upper sun @autumn lark

[potent echo]

I read the forums and "when solo mode"

Why do these people want to play alone so much

[wooden sand]

Because people hate themselves

No seriously

People complain about quickplay players

[potent echo]

They honestly think they will do better alone

[wooden sand]

Maybe they want something like Vermintide 2 instead of true solo

They want to play with bots

[ebon smelt]

Fellow sibligns, how would one go around to use the Trauma Staff? Never really saw the appeal on it but i want to try a build with it

[potent echo]

Trauma lets you render any melee threat helpless (except bosses)

[fallow token]

#psyker-class message
this one

[dull scroll]

trauma can deal with crushers/bulkwarks, which is its main appeal, very blessed 😌

[ebon smelt]

oh shit, thanks! gonna try itt out

I mostly play with void blast, because i like make things go boom

[upper sun]

acceptable

[patent mango]

my mods are hecking exploding in 4 days

[brazen rampart]

This looks great so far.

[cloud night]

Something something speedrunning

Something something trying to have a dick.measuring contest because

"durr durr i cheesed a co-op game with boring ass strats"

[patent mango]

probably for penances lol

[cloud night]

Sounds like a personal problem tbh

They should git gud with reg games and wouldn't need to rely on a "true solo" mod

[patent mango]

get a false solo mod

wait that makes no sense

relying on a true solo mod is just doing it higher diff

[fathom adder]

Imagine making the ultimate sacrifice and communicating with randoms in-game

[verbal thistle]

Playing solo is a very good test of skill and is very fun for a personal challenge

it proves skill is some cases and feels like a different game at times

and its fun to get big damage numbers when solo

this was a failed run

[strong gulch]

I'd like a solo mode. You can just mess around and test stuff without bothering other people's play. Don't even have to finish a map. You can just experiment at your own pace.

Also, if you have a hectic environment with like pets, kids, or you're waiting on something, you can just quit with without the guilt/ mental barrier about how you are affecting the team or not commit to 20+ minutes of play.

You can be far more sweaty or way more chill in solo. lmao

[tender stirrup]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e7d46da-f5a1-4f13-abeb-5e6c48f69eb4/psyker-80?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button
my friend is making me share my build, i am open to criticism

[winged hamlet]

Looks like shit

You should just play Veteran at this point

[tender stirrup]

i carried last round i dont wanna hear it mr 3 deaths lmao

this was your idea

[dull scroll]

depends, what are you trying to go for

[lilac summit]

what the fuck is that build goddamn

[tender stirrup]

i went with something that seemed good, i didnt really have a build in mind

[tender stirrup]

probably really bad

[dull scroll]

can't crit a build unless we know what foundation to start with, you trying to make a voidstrike build?

or FGS

[lilac summit]

thats fair yeah

[tender stirrup]

i normally run voidstrike

[dull scroll]

but whatever the build, I'm pretty sure not running EP with BB applies, especially if you've already got this

[tender stirrup]

so dont run empowered psyonics?

[lilac summit]

empowered psionics is terrible

imho

[tender stirrup]

damn, i thought it was pretty decent

[dull scroll]

if you've already got that upgrade for brain burst

[lilac summit]

i guess its ok if you are going for a brain burst focussed build

[dull scroll]

EP is not horrible with BB on lower difficulties

but there are better options

[tender stirrup]

would warp charges be better?

[strong gulch]

This is the kind of build that will get torn apart here. In good and sometimes mean spirited ways. If you can get the content fine and you have fun with this then keep doing it.

That being said, you're leaving a crits and damage on the table. BB and voidstrike have a lot of overlap. If you want an EP BB build, doing double wall will stack KR more. DD and true aim will buff all of your kit (BB can crit but can stack true aim). Perfect timing and no PC just leaves damage on the table.

[dull scroll]

yeah, more shield and more uptime for the bb cd proc

[strong gulch]

BM and middle EP node are usually skips.

BM has use in havocs tho

[tender stirrup]

i was prefpared to get told it was ass tho lol

[strong gulch]

This is meta voidstrike tree.

[strong gulch]

That's good. 🙏 😭

[drifting steeple]

why is it bad? im curious

[strong gulch]

As long as you play well, it doesn't matter what you take. Some of the best players take questionable af builds.

[lilac summit]

as i said, for a brainburst focussed build its not too bad

anything else you are better off using either of the other two keystones

[tender stirrup]

what is BM?

[drifting steeple]

which keystone for smite, then?

[lilac summit]

smite doesnt need anything

just pick smite and enjoy endless cc

[strong gulch]

EP only buffs blitz. BB falls off with a competent team.

[strong gulch]

battle meditation

[tender stirrup]

ah

i wouldve thought that was one of the better ones

[strong gulch]

A lot of psyker's kit revolves around edging peril plus there is peril mitigation down the tree that is consistent.

[dull scroll]

a lot of talents aren't bad, it's just what you are missing out if you picked those

[tender stirrup]

that makes sense

i cleary have not been running an optimised build lol

[lilac summit]

for psyker pretty much anything goes

imho

its more about gameplay than build

although you can make some dogwater ass builds on psyker

with the amount of useless nodes

[tender stirrup]

its the only class im actually decent at

[lilac summit]

thats great

i feel like thats usually the one people struggle with

[drifting steeple]

i do not understand this

am i just cooked?

[lilac summit]

the amount of people who make their own heads explode is higher than you might think

[tender stirrup]

ive spent around 170 of my 300 hours of my time on psyker, i would certainly hope im at least decent by now

[dull scroll]

pfft, go play a meta zealot build and you'll just walk auric like a park

[strong gulch]

I'm getting bullied to play oggy. So I'm bout to suck. Psyker is comfy

[dull scroll]

this class you have to manage peril and gets folded if anything hits you

[drifting steeple]

yeah ive watched my bf do this a few times

[strong gulch]

Just don't let anything get you.

Or be like me and never dodge #psyker-class message

[drifting steeple]

he balks at my fascination with martyrdom

[lilac summit]

its for sure the class that requires the most amount of forethought

you cant just spam m1 and run forward

[cloud night]

I want buddy's hat

[strong gulch]

is a good one

[paper harbor]

i remember i queue up 3 psyker and ogryn myself, i have to protect them and i failed. because there's two smyker

[nocturne dust]

Empowered Psionics only benefits blitzes, and most blitzes aren't things you have out a ton of the time. Blitzes aren't main weapon material if you're going for effectiveness. So, you aren't using EP most of the time when instead you could have Warp Siphon for tons of ability cooldown or Disrupt Destiny for tons of extra damage.

EP fights DD for Assail and barely wins out (as long as you're only looking at Assail and not the rest of the kit), so DD is generally favored.
EP brings a very bad blitz (Brainburst) to mediocre when combined with other talents, but it eats a lot of points just to make a bad thing okay so it's not a great choice.
EP with smite is... well, smite is strong, and it's good at cascading elite kills for vent/perilous combustion fire spreading, but it's also an incredibly boring, slow, and unreactive style of play where you just look in a single direction while holding down keys and hope nothing hits you from behind. It's not actually more effective than the meta strats anyway, just incredibly easy to pull-off.

[ebon smelt]

Trauma Staff i was not familiar with your game

[paper harbor]

Sweet spot, I do have build EP with smite

Run with Electrokinetic staff

It kill horde much faster

With Smite*

[nocturne dust]

EK staff prefers shriekspam with warp siphon

[paper harbor]

When my EP is have charges

[paper harbor]

I think I have shriek but I have psykinetic aura

Killing elite and special are for my EK

[nocturne dust]

You want psykinetics and warp siphon

Kill elites/specials with EK, kill everything else with shriek

Never need smite

But that's not to say you can't play the way you want to

[drifting steeple]

i love all the psyker blitz

[paper harbor]

I get that with effective build for maximums dmg to be top score board, I make to be electro man

[nocturne dust]

I would like BB if it was worth anything at higher difficulties

[paper harbor]

Spider-man electro theme

[paper harbor]

I have BB on my purgatus staff

And dueling sword over Deimos I can’t keep up combo poke and heavy poke

BB for purgatus is great if your team doesn’t deal ranger enemy

[nocturne dust]

Even on Inferno, BB is still bad. It's just chosen because of what's around it, and not what it is.

[paper harbor]

Or threat like scab/dreg bomb, sniper

Because they too busy with lock on melee

[nocturne dust]

I mean, between BB and assail, I would pick assail every time if they both led to the same nodes

[paper harbor]

I find BB with Kinetic flayer combine purgatus proc lighting strike with gamble luck

[nocturne dust]

I mean, KF is great

but KF is literally not using BB

[paper harbor]

And I have the what’s the kill initiate soul flame on elite kill?

[nocturne dust]

and also superior to BB because it accounts for weapon blessings

[lilac summit]

remember the brainburst flamethrower?

that was great

[nocturne dust]

perilous combustion

[paper harbor]

BB isn’t suppose to be main use only dealing out of range enemies

As I said when teammate doesn’t deal ranged enemy I have to do the chore

[nocturne dust]

sure

[paper harbor]

That’s make gambling luck when I score KF on elite non-ogryn.

[nocturne dust]

that doesn't make it good, tho

[paper harbor]

Yeah I think with bb and combustion I will leave them on fire marking their position

So I can see where they at

Rather killing using PCombustion just marking them

[cloud night]

I love chainaxe with infernus staff

Gotta have the right cutlery for the meat i cooked for the ogryns

[paper harbor]

(Off topic: Gah the Indeed website keep sending me job recommendation gmail)

[cloud night]

You'll be aight

[paper harbor]

Are you trying feed ogryn dead heretic flesh?

With warp fire?

That’s double heresy

[cloud night]

Magnus did nothing wrong

[paper harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/me-when-i-see-my-class-gif-15768348532634343334

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/delete-wh40k-gif-19798461

[cloud night]

Well you gotta think
The zealots wont be nice and use their flamers

Gotta cook somehow

[paper harbor]

It’s a half heresy with cooked heretic flesh

Using imperium approved flamer

[cloud night]

Its not heretical if you're having fun makin em scream

As you cook em

[paper harbor]

That’s Khorne of you.

[cloud night]

Skulls for the skull throne
Maim kill burn

I mean for the emprah!!!!
im sure...

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/misscanon-misscornon-shifty-shifty-eyes-frightened-gif-26273986

Corn seeing the rejects stray dangerously close to his domain and going 'naw, not these drug-addicts'

[cloud night]

Damn thanks Melk

[cloud night]

Zealot is literally a khornite or whatev in denial

Psykers could be suckered by tzeentch and

As for Slaanesh and nurgle?

Well plogryns exist and you never see any hot vets because they all got snatched by the dark lord of excess

On that note, I wanna be a noise marine in my next life

[drifting steeple]

whats kf

[nocturne dust]

kinetic flayer, subnode of BB

[nocturne dust]

Pretty sure we're too hopped up on drugs for any of the chaos gods. No disease because the drugs kill them, no proper battle because the drugs are cheats, no change or plotting because all we are is stimms at this point, and before you may think Slaanesh would fit perfectly, remember the last time you held a stimm because 'you might need it later' while evaccing

[drifting steeple]

after this discussion im not sure about ep vs warp charges for smite

[nocturne dust]

I mean, if you're focused on smite, EP

but you shouldn't be focused on smite

well, "shouldn't" if you are a meta munchkin

[drifting steeple]

how do i get the penance then

[nocturne dust]

which penance

[drifting steeple]

specialist/elite kills w ep

[nocturne dust]

assail + EP

[drifting steeple]

hm

okay

whats finesse and finesse damage

[nocturne dust]

crit + weakspot

is 2 things

if it's finesse damage, it boosts both crit and weakspot

[drifting steeple]

does electrostaff secondary do weak spot dmg?

damg

damn

wanted to run electro staff w crit\

[lilac summit]

thats the way to do it

it has crit on it as one of the stats

[nocturne dust]

EK is a crit staff, lol

It cannot weakspot, but it can crit

It's also kinda reliant on crits to reach breakpoints with perfect timing

[drifting steeple]

yeah thought i could run scirers with electro staff

[nocturne dust]

You can. Wouldn't recommend it, but you can.

The only staff that can really make use of Scrier's is Voidstrike, imo.

[drifting steeple]

i just wanted to level my electro staff while trying to knock off two penances (scriers and ep) at the same time

[nocturne dust]

Every other staff prefers Creeping Flames Shriekspam, EK especially.

[nocturne dust]

Well, if you're just looking to do penances, do whatever

Any advice I give is advice for someone seeking to meta-ify their builds to tackle stuff like Havoc 40. If you don't even have things maxed out, you probably should just ignore what anyone else says for the most part.

[drifting steeple]

hey! i have, some things maxed out

[plucky flax]

I wouldn't trust people calling the staff ek and not surge

[nocturne dust]

Sure, but you're not seeking to take those into Havoc 40 or anything is my point. If you're levelling/doing penances, do that.

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/tv-simpsons-cloud-fist-grandpa-gif-12082744756246344299

[plucky flax]

We must carry on its legacy

[nocturne dust]

The future is now, old man

[plucky flax]

His name is surge

[nocturne dust]

Deadnaming a staff, smh my head

[lilac summit]

its purgatus

its trauma

[drifting steeple]

i didnt even know what the old names were, i started playing after they changed it all

[plucky flax]

Time to learn their real names

Speak their tru names and you unlock hidden power

[pine topaz]

Hey guys, any recent patch/changes that's affected the RAT trauma build?

[nocturne dust]

The rat trauma build?

[plucky flax]

Self proclaimed best trauma player in the world

So it must be tru

[verbal thistle]

Me?

[plucky flax]

[verbal thistle]

doing an 10 man repo rn

this shit is fun

[plucky flax]

Wots that?

[verbal thistle]

REPO

new game

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1312174735974600835/1352418119603326976/Clip_-_3202025_40557_PM.mp4?ex=67df4286&is=67ddf106&hm=3ff4608bc3bb5f961e1b4a653ce4d9c4ff93d4da73c4067bde08dd117eeeaef4&

Lethal company like

but with item physics

[plucky flax]

I don't like these type of party games

It's too social

[verbal thistle]

you antisoical

yeah

[nocturne dust]

Dam, why can't they make dozens of darktide-likes

[plucky flax]

[verbal thistle]

https://vxtwitter.com/NoContextCrap/status/1901103627839607051

[nocturne dust]

We can be antisocial together

but separately

[cloud night]

Fair point lmao

Hard to see but ol boy got blasted to that roof by a burster from the balcony

[fast prawn]

Does surge blessing work for voidblast (formerly trauma) staves?

[nocturne dust]

only on lmb

so not really

[fast prawn]

got ya so nice and pointless

[nocturne dust]

only Voidstrike's surge procs on rmb 😔

[paper harbor]

We got few new gen here asking new name than old name

[fast prawn]

so for voidblast - maybe rending shockwave better?

[nocturne dust]

Fire Trauma is the typical build

[fast prawn]

fire trauma?

[nocturne dust]

Rending Trauma is an option, normally slightly (but not significantly) weaker

[fast prawn]

...

[paper harbor]

Is an old name

[nocturne dust]

but stronger in H40 for some situations

[paper harbor]

Trauma is old name of voidblast

[nocturne dust]

Blazing Spirit's only use

[paper harbor]

I use nexus and flurry

[nocturne dust]

Blazing Spirit literally never wants to go on anything else

[paper harbor]

With Empryic resolve I can blast more

[nocturne dust]

Fire Trauma is Nexus + Blazing Spirit, Rending Trauma is Flurry + Rending Shockwave

Nexus + Flurry is a thing some people do, but that's mostly a holdover from the times when you had to gamble to get anything good and people just had to make do with what they got (and Fire Trauma needed precise rolls)

[paper harbor]

Yeah

Rolling gamble weapon isn’t fun

Now is less hefty

[nocturne dust]

My recommendation is run Fire Trauma unless there's an Inferno user, then run Rending Trauma

[paper harbor]

I think I have with my BB kf

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/gamba-xqc-gambling-addict-777-gif-25803752

[paper harbor]

That build I either use two voidstrike or trauma

[nocturne dust]

I recommend assail with voidstrike

[paper harbor]

Trauma with PC and KF i targetting elite unit like ragers and ogryn s

[nocturne dust]

KF BB pairs well with Trauma and Inferno because of how it procs (trauma rolls for every KF-possible target in its blast area (not the epicenter), Inferno spams small hits)

[paper harbor]

Just little oomph fire

[paper harbor]

15 second aint bad yeah

[drifting steeple]

is blazing spirit a staff blessing

[paper harbor]

Yes

Only for voidstrike and blast

[nocturne dust]

Yes, for some

[cloud night]

Why is that? If voidstrike already has range?

[nocturne dust]

it's also a melee blessing

[paper harbor]

Is not only staff exclusive

[drifting steeple]

yeah i know\

[nocturne dust]

But never use Blazing Spirit outside of Trauma (unless you are memeing)

[drifting steeple]

i also know its not staff exlcusive

i just saw we were talking about staves

[nocturne dust]

Voidstrike tends to kill things it hits with a proper build and is also a sniper of sorts, so no real use for BB

[drifting steeple]

which was trauma staff again?

[paper harbor]

KF PC voidstrike blazing spirit + nexus, full crits perk and talents

It’s a lighting ball

[nocturne dust]

and Voidstrike needs help with hordes sometimes if you can't kite them

so assail good

[cloud night]

Fair enough

[nocturne dust]

memeing

[paper harbor]

What is Kite? Like shoot and run?

[paper harbor]

Lightening ball

[nocturne dust]

Kiting, just leading the enemies in a conga line

[paper harbor]

[nocturne dust]

If they're all in a line, you can just ball them with Voidstrike

[plucky flax]

Dank meme

[nocturne dust]

Fire ball, actually

no lightning

[paper harbor]

I look back fatshark enemy design they compare before and after enemy movement behavior conga like to spread out conga line

[nocturne dust]

You would need to get charged strike to function with Voidstrike ball

[paper harbor]

Lighting fire ball

Because kf

[nocturne dust]

They do like to spread out, but Voidstrike ball big and will hit most of them

[paper harbor]

Is like 1.8m wide

[nocturne dust]

KF is not lightning, do not be fooled by your eyes

[plucky flax]

Can't wait for another staff rename into voidfire and voidelectric

[nocturne dust]

https://youtu.be/KDE17OkUGvw

[paper harbor]

It’s a BB thing I see it’s like smiting foes head

Lighting and lightening I got confused

[nocturne dust]

Literal Smite:

https://tenor.com/view/death-stare-black-snake-moan-samuel-l-jackson-shocked-wide-eye-gif-7922961204564264622

[paper harbor]

Is a single smite

KF PC BS

God that remind me playing warframe doing shenanigans build

[nocturne dust]

Voidblast
Voidstrike
Burnblast (Inferno)
Burnstrike (EK)

Every part is in 2 names

[paper harbor]

ShockStrike

[nocturne dust]

no, no, that has uniqueness to the name

Fatshark wants us to suffer

[paper harbor]

Legacy player have to adapt new name

I can’t remember the between helbore mark

They read so different

[drifting steeple]

whats trauma staff

[verbal thistle]

voidblast

[drifting steeple]

ah right

That's the one where you shoot a big ball right

[plucky flax]

Bruh

Bad bait

[drifting steeple]

Im trolling

Name changes were stupid

Trauma staff sounds cool as hell

They should have just changed voidstrike to something else

Maybe the Baller staff

@nocturne dust in your meta opinion is the left outer most part of the tree with the three nodes for staves useless

[cloud night]

Trauma staff is more fun than I thought

[fast prawn]

BEWM

[cloud night]

Knocks crushers on their fat ass

[fast prawn]

yeah then with the rending you just blow em apart

[cloud night]

Ye

[fast prawn]

usually a veteran is railing into them with a gun so you don tget the chance though

but we expose them for everyone else

you could have 5 crushers ambush the group but one trauma staff pop and they're all looking at the sky or ceiling

[cloud night]

Im running fire trauma myself tbh

[lyric prism]

so i forgor, what the difference between both greatword marks?

is one better at something than the other?

[plucky flax]

Both gud it's preference with move sets

I prefer mk6 it has stab heavy 2 you can spam

[lyric prism]

so technically mk6 is better at single target?

[plucky flax]

Yeah

[lyric prism]

thats what i need to know, since i run a smite psyker with trauma staff

so idk what my build is lacking

[verbal thistle]

yeah

I know

[strong gulch]

FGS 6 leans a bit more single target with the big stab on the H2 or after special.

FGS 8 leans a bit more horrizontal with slightly faster swing and the big stab is after a PA (push attack).

[verbal thistle]

smite is bringing the build down

shrimple as

[plucky flax]

For sustain single target fighting. Mk8 stab actually does more damage but you can't spam that as easily

If you want a pure single target high mobility melee use ds4 deimos or knife

Since you're not struggling with any horde on trauma and smite

[lyric prism]

so what honestly, does psyker ever struggle with hordeclear if he uses staffs?

they all kinda seem great at it

[plucky flax]

No cos creeping flames op

Press f and win against horde

[strong gulch]

Voidstrike (in open areas) and EK can have issues with hordes, but other stuff in the kit like creeping flames, melee, or assail cover hordes.

Assail for voidstrike

Some people run assail EK. That is not my thing.

[lyric prism]

hey, i am those people

[strong gulch]

a choice

[lyric prism]

i know, for me it is just dumb fun

[strong gulch]

That's a good reason.

I will not push back on fun.

[plucky flax]

Some people run taxes for fun so I get you

(It sucks)

[strong gulch]

I run assail trauma for fun

[upbeat kestrel]

remind taxe perks were? for vet specifically

[strong gulch]

Check the vet guide in the pins in #veteran-class

well WIP

[verbal thistle]

BM HT

unarmoured flak

[plucky flax]

I play it on psyker with carapace flak

Cos the carapace damage is doo doo

[strong gulch]

Got it. This is what Path says for vets.

[upbeat kestrel]

thx

[hardy delta]

the hell does brawl mean