psyker-class

[upper sun]

fgs REALLY needs the attack speed buff

[nocturne dust]

Lmao, I run it without any attack speed all the time

the slower mk too

[upper sun]

bpistol is so comfy tho 😭

[nocturne dust]

Imagine needing attack speed

[fathom adder]

Attack Speed is a human right

[young cliff]

You dont "NEED" it, but it certainly feels better to cut heretics like they are droids in a Star wars cartoon

[strong gulch]

it can even push bursters

[upper sun]

IT CANT BREAK RELOAD ANIMATIONS TO DO SO REEEE

[young cliff]

Isn't ogryn human too? Why he slow?

[upper sun]

#darktide-pics-vids message
look at how easy it is to aim

[fathom adder]

They're not called abhuman rights

[marble crater]

Why push burster when you can explode them with KF

[strong gulch]

a classic

[young cliff]

That's because they more they are "ab" but also human, see sah?

[fathom adder]

Why he slow?
He's a big guy and inertia is a property of matter

[upper sun]

that death served a great purpose it reminded me that i can push with bpistol

[young cliff]

That only means acceleration is slower, he still should have speed

[upper sun]

but that death also lead to this one #zealot-class message

[velvet crescent]

alright, let's summarize changes to make assuming fire staff + force sword

-look for perfect timing
-ep swaps out for warp siphon
-anything else i missed/forgot?

[nocturne dust]

now try to aim it at more than one thing at a time

[upper sun]

no

[marble crater]

That's basically it, stay on the left side while getting to warp charges, also the elite kill node for EP is better than what you have right now.

[velvet crescent]

Oh I swapped already

To elite kills I mean

[marble crater]

Oh... I just noticed a big heretical act in your build

Emperor help me

[velvet crescent]

Eh?

[marble crater]

You are using wildfire instead of Psykentic's Aura

Or rather, you aren't using Psykentic's Aura

[velvet crescent]

Dafuq I thought I changed that out

Yeah I noticed I didn't have aura so I doubled back fkr it

Well I know what I'm doing

I made some changes, for one I swapped the random bb on attack for the faster bb on ability use

[marble crater]

That's not a good change, imo. The random BB is better

[deft stump]

Think of it as a super crit every 15 sec.

[last shore]

Don’t think wildfire is that good if you’re solo inferno

[marble crater]

Unless this is one of those situations where English is stupid and you had faster BB and switched that to random BB

[thorn cedar]

i find this framing makes this stinky node seem even worse

[deft stump]

Eh, vs the other.

The other is basically only worth it if chasing MM.

[thorn cedar]

the other is worth if you're genuinely doing EP BB or just running wall shield

otherwise between both nodes, take neither

[upper sun]

nah KR is fine with just creeping flames

[velvet crescent]

No you had the right of it

[thorn cedar]

thats me anyway i fucking hate flayer, its shit

[fathom adder]

Acceleration so slow he cannot go fast within his lifetime

[velvet crescent]

im hearing warp siphon's better on bb so im swapping

[deft stump]

It is if you are going bubble.

[marble crater]

Purely about BB, EP is better for it

[deft stump]

You can't argue with constant bubbles in normal games.

But if you just wanna play pure blitz, EP.

Like funny malice only Assail build.

[velvet crescent]

I'm going bubble yeah

The only criteria I have is BB and bubble

Everything else is negotiable, and even then

I just find BB handy for picking off really far specials

Tried smite

[marble crater]

If you want to use BB as a main weapon use EP, if you want to use BB as a tool for killing the occasional special use Warp Siphon

[velvet crescent]

Just didn't mesh with it

[velvet crescent]

Which nodes?

[marble crater]

For BB or Warp Siphon?

[velvet crescent]

WS

[thorn cedar]

straight down the middle

and then honestly whatever for taste

youll want one of the two bottom branches for charge upkeep but the rest are frankly skippable

[velvet crescent]

aight

does bb see use in havocs or nah

[thorn cedar]

it does but

[velvet crescent]

i can be persuaded to go assail

[thorn cedar]

depends on your definition of use

[velvet crescent]

special sniper

[deft stump]

BB is for Psykinetics.

[marble crater]

I only use the first two and then either red if I have a lot of soulblaze, inferno or voidblast, otherwise blue.

[deft stump]

Psykinetics is bloody OP.

[velvet crescent]

I have fire staff for hordes and deimos fs for big guys

[thorn cedar]

deffo still is used but nobody is running a brainburst build so to speak

[marble crater]

I don't like the peril generation or toughness, because the first one is inconsistent and I don't like it and the toughness is not necessary

Green for havoc because apparently I have the extra point for it

[velvet crescent]

reposting to summarize
-go aura instead of wildfire
-swap to warp siphon
-grab perfect timing

anything else?

also, why perfect timing on fire staff?

[strong gulch]

More warp damage

[marble crater]

Almost everything a staff psyker does is warp damage

The only thing that isn't is melee, unless it's the special from force swords

So warp damage good

[thorn cedar]

also easy to proc so you basically always get value

[radiant frigate]

15% damage at an affordable price?

satisfactory

[velvet crescent]

what's the crit chance on fire staff and is it every tick?

[thorn cedar]

crit is rolled on the puffs

[radiant frigate]

psyker has 7.5% base crit, plus 5% from the crit node, plus up to 20% from warp nexus

up to 32.5%

consistent enough

also triggers other fun stuff like mettle and empathic evasion

[velvet crescent]

hm, okay

[strong gulch]

Purg/ infero also has infinite cleave that ticks damage fairly quickly. Mettle good. Mettle is on the way to perfect timing.

[marble crater]

@velvet crescent I can post my build as reference if you want

[fathom adder]

Is Mettle still bugged? People mentioned it a lot a couple months ago but I can't find details rn

[velvet crescent]

Go for it

So warp nexus on fire staff yes?

Nexus and blaze away

[upper sun]

yeah nexus blaze away is peak

[marble crater]

This isn't exactly my build, because I only play fire staff in havoc, but close enough as reference what yours might end up looking like

[strong gulch]

Mettle was nerfed to be on attack. So voidblast / trauma can't get a full toughness bar out of it now. There is an issue with inferno/ purg, but you still get most of a bar with even with just a few enemies and quietude covers the gap. This assumes no toughness gen from bubble.

[marble crater]

Also, I would rather pick a bugged mettle to get perfect timing than picking warp expenditure

[proper cypress]

quietude instead of soulstealer?💀

[nocturne dust]

Is not a bad choice on Inferno

[strong gulch]

Have a toughness gen option outside of killing and there's mettle with bubble.

[plucky flax]

Only really pro players like sutv play without soulstealer.

[proper cypress]

how about playing without bubble?
👉 👈

[nocturne dust]

Pro players? We can get paid?

[plucky flax]

Yes darktide is a real profession.

[strong gulch]

The person specifically asked for bubble.

[plucky flax]

You get paid $0.01 per hour.

[strong gulch]

Non-negotiable

[plucky flax]

[marble crater]

I use soulstealer on my other builds because I have the points, and as Potato said, if I can only pick soulstealer or Quietude I would pick the latter so I can regain toughness whenever I want

[thorn cedar]

this is very competitive compared to my current rate (nothing)

[strong gulch]

Give me my $19.90.

[thorn cedar]

i probably make much less than 0.01/h on twitch lmao

[marble crater]

In my havoc inferno build for example I also don't pick one with the warp, because I have very little toughness so why bother

[nocturne dust]

20 bucks, hand it over 🫴

[thorn cedar]

I'm still surprised by how many people run full toughness even beyond H35

1.66x 60 is still nothing lmao

[marble crater]

I think it's just playstyle preference, maybe

[thorn cedar]

that's the claim i keep getting but i think its a bit like wounds

[deft stump]

You want 20 male deers?

[marble crater]

I might drop one of my health curios for stamina

[thorn cedar]

people think its keeping them much safer from shooters but genuinely things at havoc are damn near binary

youre either hit and its gone or you didnt and it doesnt matter

[nocturne dust]

Don't judge me

[thorn cedar]

and yea 2H 1S is where im at

[marble crater]

Or you are either inside the bubble or not

[thorn cedar]

ye

or you had gold toughness or you didnt

[plucky flax]

Rookie number. You get paid once you hit $30.

[thorn cedar]

gimme my forty bucks

[plucky flax]

4000 hours

[marble crater]

That reminds me, I still need to shit post on Agent's video

[strong gulch]

jerky, burgers, and more

[plucky flax]

Shit post about some psyker guy get out damaged by zealot using trauma.

[marble crater]

[strong gulch]

Just say it was me. 🫂

[deft stump]

Gib.

[marble crater]

There was one situation where I didn't really attack anything on purpose because I heard a poxburster and didn't know where exactly it was

[plucky flax]

Support zealot btw. Not even chastise relic sword zealot.

[plucky flax]

I thank you for watching our backs.

[marble crater]

So I decided that was the saver option, then I watched the video from Agent's POV and there was no burster and I could have freely attacked the entire time

[plucky flax]

[marble crater]

Feels bad

[plucky flax]

Fool done got played.

This is why ppl use cheat mod

[strong gulch]

Ur out of true survivor mode, can blast freely now.

[marble crater]

True, more recklessness

[strong gulch]

Playing safe in bubble for havocs has made me worse at the game.

[buoyant maple]

Toughness is only worth for veteran and ogryn imo

[thorn cedar]

agreed

[plucky flax]

I use 2 toughness 1 hp on both psyker and zealot in havoc

Just vibe and scurry around

[marble crater]

Clad convinced me to turn up my FOV and now I feel like I play better because everything feels faster

[strong gulch]

Feels faster seems heckin cool.

[marble crater]

Like having shoes with lightning as a kid, they make you run faster

[strong gulch]

true fact

If I put fire stickers on my cane, I will def walk faster. 🔥

[upper sun]

toldya

[upper sun]

the house of darktide 🫡

[marble crater]

[young cliff]

Me when disposal unit kicks in

[marble crater]

It needs to play more often

[radiant frigate]

me when nightsider

me when this game's entire OST tbh

[young cliff]

Yeah

[radiant frigate]

the wizbard jesper kyd always delivers

[velvet crescent]

i found the dropship loading theme

playing it when i drive to and from school

[cosmic sparrow]

what is the psyker build that does a ton of damage

i cant figure it out

[strong gulch]

Do you want staff or gun?

[cosmic sparrow]

what's more optimal

well

staff

[nocturne dust]

staff is more optimal

Though, the highest damage build kinda depends on whether you're running Aurics or Havoc

[strong gulch]

All of the staves can put out a lot of damage. Just need to build around them. This is for non-havocs

inferno / purg (the one with warp charges; EP BB is a BB build)
#psyker-class message

Electro/ EK/ Surge
#psyker-class message

Voidblast/ trauma
#psyker-class message

[nocturne dust]

EK for Aurics, Inferno for Havocs would be the builds with the highest damage (on average) for psyker

but any staff will perform really well wherever you take it

(unless people kill things before they get in inferno range )

[wet charm]

Squeak (The inferno staff is the easiest to use and you will do a ton of damage with it. But the voidblast staff is by far the best in the highest difficulties, but has a steeper learning curve in order to use it effectively)

[nocturne dust]

The Inferno is still higher damage than Voidblast

[wet charm]

Squeak (rat would recommend just trying a bunch of different builds and playstyles and learn at your own pace)

[nocturne dust]

Voidblast is only safer (and to be fair, that is important and the difference in safety is quite significant)

[marble crater]

All of them

[wet charm]

Squeak (yus but rat values utility over dmg)

[upper sun]

massive stagger is also utility

[marble crater]

Ah, Potato already said that

[strong gulch]

I personally find voidstrike harder to use because I can't hit heads.

I can blast a toe tho

[wet charm]

Squeak (voidblast has a more reliable stagger)

[upper sun]

ok i gotta ask are the brackets translation? or what?
why would someone translate something in the third person even if it was in its native langauge?

[deft stump]

Even my sus EK build???

[marble crater]

No

[nocturne dust]

Just ratling things

[marble crater]

It's like in Divinity when you have the perk to talk to animals

[wet charm]

Squeak (yus) ;D

[upper sun]

from the 3 hours i played vt2 they didnt talk much just died alot

[wet charm]

Squeak (if you are interested in seeing what the voidblast is capable of when being used very well, let rat know or pm rat)

[deft stump]

Then don't use "All of them.".

[marble crater]

I will, you can't stop me

[cosmic sparrow]

ive played with 2 psykers premade and every other psyker is a random

the most impact ive seen a psyker has is when they stun everything and constantly use the bubble shield

[marble crater]

[cosmic sparrow]

the highest damage ive ever seen a psyker have was 450k i think

every psyker must not be good or something idk

[marble crater]

We have been found out

[cosmic sparrow]

im not even being coy like i genuinely dont understand how psyker keeps up with the other classes in damage

no shade no smoke

[upper galleon]

Lol what

Psyker can absolutely top the charts

[patent mango]

i've done 1m just in melee

psyker scales well with enemy density usually

[cosmic sparrow]

what's ur build

[patent mango]

sg disrupt fgs

[upper galleon]

Ive done 1 mill multiple times with ep smite flamevent and electro staff or voidstrike

[nocturne dust]

99% of pubs regardless of class are not good

[patent mango]

it was h40 though

so theres a loooot to stab

[cosmic sparrow]

ofc

[upper galleon]

And any build running DD scriers

[cosmic sparrow]

no im with you there

[upper galleon]

Especially the newer assail build since you literally can’t blow yourself up

[cosmic sparrow]

im just not a psyker player and im genuinely curious what psyker's dmg output is like on an optimal build with a good player

cus ive seen it maybe once

[patent mango]

psyker will always outdo other classes

[cosmic sparrow]

again no shade

[nocturne dust]

Here is game where the only people that break 1 mil total damage happen to be psykers (this is not luck or a coincidence)

[patent mango]

at the same skill levels

just due to density scaling and constant dps

[upper galleon]

Better than other classes since they have 3 infinite cleave options, voidblast, smite and flame staff

[nocturne dust]

Psyker easily outdoes every other class in terms of damage.

[upper galleon]

And no ammo limitation

[marble crater]

Watch AgentChaos on YouTube to get an idea for that

[cosmic sparrow]

ok

[nocturne dust]

Of course, the tradeoff is you get to play like a sweat lord and the lightest tap turns you into paste

[marble crater]

I'm earning me some referral money

[upper galleon]

2 taps in quick succession

You can take one tap and you can regen very quick but if you take 2 then you are in trouble

[nocturne dust]

I mean, outside of unbalanced Havoc, other classes can survive overheads vastly more easily

[upper galleon]

Overheads aren’t taps

[nocturne dust]

Zealot can literally take it to the brain

[deft stump]

I don't think that works unless you count weekly diamantine and plasteel.

[nocturne dust]

Everything is a light love tap

[earnest sand]

I only like beast of nurgle love taps/hugs

[marble crater]

I was hoping for aquilas, I need some new slop

[upper galleon]

Zealot after tanking a crusher swing to the face

“Do you have any med stims? I have a headache”

[upper sun]

theres only 2 good skins in the shop rn try again in 3 weeks

[upper galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/do-you-have-any-ibuprofen-i-have-a-headache-meme-ibuprofen-meme-anime-girl-meme-mood-gif-17693332636758375379

[strong gulch]

The military.

[deft stump]

Pretty sure not happening.

[marble crater]

I want something without sleeves, need to get that heretic pus on my arms

(it's actually to see tattoos when using weapons)

[strong gulch]

One of the reasons I use the penance tops and starting shirt.

[marble crater]

It's a good reason

[upper sun]

🚬

not gonna happen best you get is the yellow slop tshirt

[agile laurel]

sigh, 3rd one in a row

how do i contact fartshat again

[strong gulch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1004447866250613048/1298432898004811786/Rest_in_Peas.gif

I think the forums.

[agile laurel]

they should refund the mats and gold spent

[strong gulch]

It's an acknowledged bug, but if more people complain maybe it will be fixed sooner.

[agile laurel]

it's starting to get annoying

[strong gulch]

It's annoying af

[wet charm]

@cosmic sparrow

https://youtu.be/0J3bcFyn_iA?si=W2HVRPNce-HwXtnY

:3

[nocturne dust]

Just to note for the sake of others, you absolutely do not have to play like Rat does at even h40 to even get true survivor.

[deft stump]

I mean... heh.

[wet charm]

Squeak (rat agrees. But twith that mentality, you dont become better)

[nocturne dust]

False, because your method of play isn't better

[dusky crag]

Rat I've been curious to ask why do you use a wound curio?

[patent mango]

just play in the most fun way lol

🔥

[wet charm]

Squeak (great question! Rat takes a wound curio and crys will to compensate for how often rat blows up playing like this)

Squeak (if rat were perfect, they would be unnecessary, but alas rat is just a rat)

[dusky crag]

idk rat you're pretty damn good haha

[wet charm]

Squeak (thank you kindly fren)

[strong gulch]

One method may not necessarily be better than another. Even if it is, the way a player uses that method matters a lot. Also this is a game and the point of it may not be to get better.

Also keep in mind that just because a really good or great player does or uses x, that doesn't make x really good or great.

Great players don't need meta,

[thorn cedar]

i dont take advice from you non-mind in motion using plebians

[strong gulch]

[wet charm]

Squeak (very well put!)

[nocturne dust]

I'll use mind in motion when it gives me more speed

[thorn cedar]

it does

[patent mango]

i'll use mind in motion when it helps me melee

[nocturne dust]

Doesn't

[thorn cedar]

it gives you much more speed while quelling than if you didnt have it

ergo more speed

[nocturne dust]

It doesn't

Cuz I don't move any further than I would without it

[thorn cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/emperors-new-groove-squirrel-squeak-squeaky-kronk-gif-10369555

[nocturne dust]

Imagine not sliding/dodging everywhere like a spastic maniac

[fathom adder]

Pace is dead. We advance at the speed of bubble.

[thorn cedar]

god i hate bubble

[marble crater]

I quell, switch to dueling sword, sprint slide a few meters and then voidblast things again

[thorn cedar]

yea on staff its very whatever

usually quell canceling is already in your regular gameplay loop while you cast and the movespeed penalty is significantly less pronounced than on sword or on blitz

but being able to zip around at mach fifty with a deimos and quell canceling the l1 into everyone's head with zero pause in scriers gaze is priceless to me

[nocturne dust]

I hate bubble haters

[patent mango]

i hate bubble hater haters

[marble crater]

I don't quell cancel, it's too hard on controller

[nocturne dust]

I accept that.

[patent mango]

i dont

[nocturne dust]

Good.

[patent mango]

its true

[deft stump]

@paper dust Gremlin ignored sneaky treats and was like that. >_>

[patent mango]

creature of some sort

[deft stump]

Wot.

[patent mango]

[strong gulch]

Creature of the Floof

[deft stump]

More accurate.

[patent mango]

sog

[paper dust]

the mischeveous creature seem to be angy

[deft stump]

Dunno, did not want morning sneaky treats before mom wakes.

[hollow current]

The bullshit this game tries sometimes.

[patent mango]

those who warp

[paper dust]

isnt that just a normal occurence by now

[hollow current]

More common than before. But two trappers behind a wall of carapace and a mutant from behind? Feels like a hit squad.

[paper dust]

letting trapper net through horde will always and will always be glorpshit

[mental rock]

Yeah it should atleast push enemies away or something

Hate how it just phases through everything to grab you

Warp nets

[paper dust]

not seeing and or stuck in a horde while the net get to you

is insane

[dusky crag]

At least you suggested it knocking enemies over when they shoot not just "It shouldn't go through hordes"

[strong gulch]

It going through objects gets me. Like getting netted through a stack of crates or around a corner and getting stuck on either of those while getting pulled in.

[mental rock]

Yeah I understand why it goes through enemies, doesn't mean I don't think it's stupid

[slender coyote]

i feel so slow i get hit all the time when i play psyker with my staff and force sword

how to stop running out of dodge?

[strong gulch]

Allow enough time between dodges for them to reset, but more importantly slide.

[slender coyote]

slide?

slide it gives you i frames?

[strong gulch]

Run and crouch.

If you sprint or dodge slide, you will be stamina positive.

[paper dust]

just slide everywhere

[strong gulch]

You can slide while charging a cast and while quelling.

[paper dust]

https://tenor.com/view/spinning-anakin-good-trick-star-wars-gif-8665986

[slender coyote]

o i do that sometime

but only when im panic and then I die

i see everyone run normally?

[paper dust]

oh yeah dont panic

[strong gulch]

Sliding is a core mechanic.

[slender coyote]

easier said than done 😭

[strong gulch]

especially for psyker

[paper dust]

just remenber its a game

[dense flume]

Get wooting keyboard, bind crouch to trigger on release of your dodge key 👍

[paper dust]

if you die
more free time/ break time

[slender coyote]

i know ik

[strong gulch]

Psyker also takes less damage while sliding than running.

[slender coyote]

i havebounded to the side button on my mouse

how to do what you say? it's good?

[paper dust]

maybe change the primary and secondary buttom

[slender coyote]

primary andsecondary?

[paper dust]

i have range on scroll up and scroll down melee

[slender coyote]

oh

[dense flume]

That's fine. I was mostly kidding lol

[slender coyote]

i just scroll to switch weapon too

[strong gulch]

Whatever keybind layout works for you.

[slender coyote]

change weapon it's not a problem

[paper dust]

you wont over shoot anymore

[paper dust]

on a certain game i have q as jump

[slender coyote]

wait sorry

I can't remember what I use because I just rely on muscle memory

but

it's Q

i use Q i like it

i recently learned how to animation cancel my fire staff but idk if itsany better than just charging

[strong gulch]

My zealot knife throw is mouse wheel scroll down.

[dense flume]

What if you want to jump and strafe left? Some pinky shenanigans?

[deft stump]

You either full panic or no panic.

[paper dust]

i said on certain game

not for darktide

[dense flume]

Right

[paper dust]

panic jjumping on that particular game is bad

https://tenor.com/view/adios-amigos-mordhau-anck-gif-25179782

moedhau my beloved

[strong gulch]

Generally yes for damage increase but not needed.

[slender coyote]

so is really better to use always if i can do consistently?

[strong gulch]

Yes

Regular speed is fine tho

[slender coyote]

also is the movement speed i get from dueling sword better than the deflector I get from force sword? i have different psyker with dueling sword and laspistol and the movement feels much better and i have much more control

it kinda feels like im dragging a bus behind me when using staff

[strong gulch]

Do you mean which is a better pick or is DS faster than force swords?

[slender coyote]

i know DS is faster

but idk if is worth the tradeoff for deflector i have

i like blocking bullets cuz idk how to dodge them

[strong gulch]

That's up to you.

[slender coyote]

like

ik

i play this game for 2 years

but I just think is cool

[strong gulch]

Positioning solves a lot of issues with bullets, but if you like deflector then there's no other choice than force sword.

[deft stump]

Well, the normal swords are the inbetweener.

[slender coyote]

I feel like with deflector I don't really ever have to worry about positioning (not as much) but maybe that feels a bit like a noobtrap

[prime elk]

can be ok on staffkers

[deft stump]

Eh, even the good players sometimes have them to reposition.

[slender coyote]

maybe i just need to try harder

[strong gulch]

Inferno shuts down shooters if ur in range and EE helps if those are out of range but there's stuff to kill nearby.

So I personally prefer mobility in that case and opt for DS.

[slender coyote]

i always play super casually or do hobby super casual and i just become good or like above/average at it then just reach a skillcap and just drop it

[strong gulch]

If I am doing bubble inferno in havocs, I opt for deimos with deflector.

[slender coyote]

but i enjoy this game alot and don't want to stay there

at the cap

[slender coyote]

i take the deflector with vent so if there are a bunch reapers choking us i just walk forward and vent

[strong gulch]

Purg/ infero also shuts them down.

LMB bolts too,

[muted grove]

is BB a somewhat viable thing to build around still or not anymore

[slender coyote]

I have been using it for a while and kinda it's my only source of boss DPS and it does a good chunk

[strong gulch]

BB was never great, but you can play a BB focused build if you want. EP BB with inferno/ purg does a lot. The more competent the team, the less BB can do.

[slender coyote]

and helps with the occasional faraway sniper if you don't have other sources of longrange

[slender coyote]

exactly this

I would play heresy and help a lot with BB with faraway snipers but as soon as I hop on havoc any enemy I try to BB just gets decimated

[muted grove]

what nodes are must-haves for BB? is scryers?

[slender coyote]

I don't think u need scryers

bu

but

I wouldn't rlly know I never used it

[strong gulch]

If you prefer shriek, take that instead. Double wall means 2 ability casts so you can stack KR more with EP.

Pairs most easily with inferno/ purg.

[muted grove]

i love purg, thats awesome

[strong gulch]

The + 5% ranged node is not needed. This is a build with a purplus of points.

[slender coyote]

this is good purg as well? builds change a lot so idk if mine always keeps in check with whatever is good

[strong gulch]

Mostly there. Take psyk's aura and perfect timing.

also warp rider

[slender coyote]

I never have issue with ability cooldown

i use kinetic resonance for boss dps

essence harvest is how i manage my toughness sadly

i gues i should change my build

[strong gulch]

Warp siphon's main point is ability cooldown. You and teammates can get it back super quick. Like back to back shrieking.

[muted grove]

lmao this is me every single time i launch darktide

[strong gulch]

You're also leaving a lot of damage on the table by not takeing warp wrider and perfect timing.

[slender coyote]

ohhh

[muted grove]

warp rider has got to be the most popular node lol its irresistable

[slender coyote]

so how to manage tough without soulstealer??

[velvet crescent]

revised my build, how's this looking

[strong gulch]

If you just want to play, your build if fine. If you want to max (aka do meta things), build needs some tweaking.

[slender coyote]

ohh so

that build it's like

don't get hit

[velvet crescent]

I used to EP over Void Siphon

But tweaking, what to swap?

[strong gulch]

If you want to stick with bubble, try this. There's 3 points to do with as you please.

[velvet crescent]

Bubble is honestly negotiable

I only took it because I heard it was meta n stuff

[strong gulch]

Shriek is more damage, helps with range, and still offers utility.

It's meta in high havocs.

Otherwide shriek is meta.

[velvet crescent]

wait, seriously?

Damn

And all this time I was thinking it was bubble

[muted grove]

i have never really looked at EP too deeply but now that i see it, you could really do crazy boss damage with this under the right circumstances if you spam 3 stacks of BB, i like the build you showed me potato ty

[lean pivot]

Chat

Yay or nay?

I want smite & bubble for sure. I wanna aim this at havoc

[slender coyote]

what about with empowered psionics?

[strong gulch]

EP is blitz focused. It doesn't do anything else. SO if you want to focus on BB, you'd take EP.

[slender coyote]

oh

[strong gulch]

Voidblast and FGS dump stats are warp resist.

With no bubble I'm assuming you're not the only psyker or are farming lower havocs for a penance.

[pure dragon]

This is one of the last penances I need to do for psyker. Can anyone assist me?

[lean pivot]

i was goingto start farming lower havocs. woudnt u want warp resis so you can control your peril?

[slender coyote]

I think... I will switch to dueling sword

[velvet crescent]

I'll say for the record
I've been asking for meta stuff because I aim to try high havocs one day

[strong gulch]

WR doesn't have as much impact as the other stats, plus we have ER. FGS does have a mobility stat, only defenses and is slow with 80.

[strong gulch]

We can try.

[slender coyote]

good stat?

or if no, what to dump and everything else max?

[strong gulch]

For DS2 and DS4 dump is cleave damage.

[slender coyote]

oh wait

[strong gulch]

@pure dragon You got a build? if not, Clad recs this one.

[slender coyote]

ok I do mk 4

[eager token]

i just had the easiest havoc 40 of my life did they stealth nerf it

what in the world

[slender coyote]

cleave damge it's penetration?

[pure dragon]

Sweet ty! I was gonna take my inferno build but modify it for EP and the BB talent that enhances BB after ability

[slender coyote]

oh wait

Im stupid

ok mk v there no cleave damage

[strong gulch]

When you change the mk unless you want to keep DS5. If you keep it on DS5, then dump defenses.

[pure dragon]

At least brute conscripts is going. No shortage of plague ogryn i suppose

[lone wing]

ds has no cleave to begin with so dumping cleave is a non-issue

[near gale]

So... did fatshark actually fix the crashes from the update that was supposed to stop you from crashing while sacrificing weapons in a strike team? And without major bugs as a consequence this time for the fix? lol

[upper galleon]

It’s cleave got buffed tho unless you are running exclusively havoc there isn’t a need to dump cleave

Tho then again im in psyker chat and you have 2 other slots for horde clear

😔

[slender coyote]

How i see people with sainted level weapon??? what that ??

[pure dragon]

@strong gulch ready when you are. Code is: 9186529598

[mental rock]

Just a visual mod

[slender coyote]

oh ok

[pure dragon]

I'm on ps5 so I won't be typing much in game

[strong gulch]

The cleave damage is like 5 extra between all 3 enemies post buff. It's also still bugged and doesn't work on flak like it's supposed to.

[near gale]

It literally does nothing besides give you satisfaction for a 500 rated weapon, afaik lol

[nocturne dust]

helps with weapon organization

[deft stump]

Well, some ppl's exe now self delete so they can't boot after the fix so IDK.

[near gale]

https://tenor.com/view/you-died-dog-running-cute-puppy-gif-15910803

^ Fatshark, running at you to give u patches

[deft stump]

Is as usual though.

[near gale]

Yeah, just business as usaul lol

[paper dust]

oh great ferret inclopedia i wish too ask of thee to past down a crumble of thy best material

[paper dust]

truly
peak

(i need to learn to speak ye ol medival)

[deft stump]

Looks uncomfy.

[wispy bay]

When that thing is expired, what will you do with it?

[near gale]

I am rewatching this guy's from soft game runs and this pacifist run of bloodborne is making his level 4 run(since apparently level 4 is the soul level 1 equivilant of bloodborne) against orphan of kos look not that bad... (and it took him 479 attempts to finally succeed against the orphan of kos x.x)

[deft stump]

Eh, pacifist runs only work if you can skip all combat though.

[near gale]

Just imagine... applying slow poison... get this: by rolling

Which doesn't count as him doing damage(iirc he said it counts as environmental damage) <.<

[deft stump]

But something dies.

[near gale]

All that matters ie his charater itself is not attacking the enemy >.>

somehow, tho, bloodborne's npc summons are immensely worse than dark soul's ones x.x

[deft stump]

You have a better excuse with only summons at that point.

[near gale]

I mean... if the summon kills the boss, you didn't kill it. The blood is on someone else's hands, not yours >_>'

[velvet crescent]

im going bb/shriek now and im thinking
ep or ws

[deft stump]

I mean, if they did all the damage while you run and hide, yes.

[near gale]

Well... in dark souls 2 he was using miracles help keep them alive and/or using a shield and iirc the red eye ring or w/e and blocking for the summons x.x

[deft stump]

Like playing hard healer in a raid.

[near gale]

for the uh covetous demon he had to use the thing that makes an explosion happen when you take enough damage or the butterfly set to passively poison it over time since there were no npc summons for the covetous demon(he only uses npc summons and there aren't enough poison pots in the arena to do it in)

[dull scroll]

ws

[velvet crescent]

aight

[near gale]

I never got around to waching these 2 runs of his, and i wonder how they are gonna go >.>'

[deft stump]

Use weapons that lunge forward to move?

[near gale]

Probably

for the 1st one

[deft stump]

Talking IDK, Elden Ring too ex still.

[pure dragon]

@strong gulch thank you so much! I appreciate you!

[strong gulch]

NP

[eager token]

for FGS is it worth taking wrath blessing AND warp splitting for cleave

[strong gulch]

DS5 doesn't have cleave damage. It's built different. 🫡

[ocean totem]

So I think I’m stupid

[near gale]

those like... 6 hit mass poxwalkers in high hav be making cleave look like a myth sold to you by uncle fatshark, in hopes of you believing you can fight hordes <.<

https://tenor.com/view/plague-ogryn-ogryn-reaction-live-reaction-plague-ogryn-live-reaction-gif-1395788199602766548

[nocturne dust]

I can't hear you over this inferno

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1310894228339167334/Fire_Elmo_V5.gif

[deft stump]

Fly off Gloriana different.

[near gale]

Peoplec an hear in this day and age? I thought that was a myth

[deft stump]

You stab them 1 by 1, duh.

[strong gulch]

It's not worth all of the point investment to get warp splitting just for FGS. If you're already on that side of the tree, then go for it.

FGS just works. Do double crit blessings if you want.

[eager token]

yeah i'm over here doin some scriers gaze shit

but i guess i will drop wrath for something else

[paper dust]

ey phill

hows the cat

or dog

[nocturne dust]

If you're already right side, I would recommend grabbing warp splitting

[eager token]

can do boss

now what to replace wrath it

[nocturne dust]

I never drop wrath

[strong gulch]

If ur left side tree then ehh. If ur right side tree then ye.

[eager token]

cleave for eternity

riposte+finesse

err

riposte+precog

[nocturne dust]

ew

[eager token]

i guess unstable power could be good

idk whats good on this friggen sword man

[nocturne dust]

Anything except warp slice and blazing spirit, really

[strong gulch]

Unstable, wrath, the crit blessings, etc good

[nocturne dust]

The general recommendations are wrath and riposte/shred/unstable power

[deft stump]

Maybe deflector.

Heh.

[nocturne dust]

Deflector is good for Havoc

otherwise eh, just comfy at best

[deft stump]

Thus maybe.

[gaunt flicker]

what is the single target combo for illisi?

like against crusher/mauler/reaper

[nocturne dust]

~~It doesn't have one ~~

[deft stump]

Wot.

[dull scroll]

warp splitting cleave is more for assail

[gaunt flicker]

yeah i know deimos is the single target one

[eager token]

you swap to staff

[deft stump]

Best you can do is stroke and smack.

[gaunt flicker]

but like, for emergency

kk

good to know

[nocturne dust]

Your emergency option is probably to run away

[prime elk]

i think so, but you'll want at the very least warp splitter

[strong gulch]

A special with stop maulers, but you can just use heavies on the big things.

[eager token]

[nocturne dust]

Yah, just smack the head

[nocturne dust]

(Vect is wrong)

[eager token]

[prime elk]

100% more cleave is pretty substantial lol

[dull scroll]

pfffft

[nocturne dust]

You can pretty easily use the ranged slice to keep your peril up with Warp Splitting

Very easy way to feed your cleave, especially because the slice is nice for quite a few combos anyway, especially with the mk6

[strong gulch]

The slice has a lot of utility

[nocturne dust]

Free stagger on everything in front of you that isn't an ogryn/rager in combo is very nice

plus, sometimes it kills the stuff too

[eager token]

i only use the slice for style points

[dull scroll]

also a lot has to do with if you run scrier or not, if not there is a case to be made

for perma high peril

[near gale]

Holy fuck he got insane slow and rapid poison from cursed gems... and absoutely bullied the orphan of kos! I completely forgot that XD

How? Rolling lol

[nocturne dust]

warp unbound is a thing

[near gale]

All it required was like... probably 200 hours of doing chalice runs(and again: not attacking the enemies, just causing slow poison and rapic poison from rolling)

[dull scroll]

so is forgoing 50% of an ability's value

more than 50

[nocturne dust]

+50% cleave is still very good

[dull scroll]

actually

[nocturne dust]

and if you're talking about stacking Scrier's

you can still do that

Nothing is stopping you from reacting to the situation as appropriate

[near gale]

Huh... not talking in dark souls 2 means you can't level up, repair broken weapons, buy stuff, or upgrade weapons... that all would suck to try to do ds2 and having that shit

I forgot if there is repair powder in ds2, that would at least solve 1 of those issues >.>

[deft stump]

There is, but it comes a little later from memory.

So dook early on.

[near gale]

Apparently you can spawn a ng+ phantom which has a chance to drop a +5 short sword... and you can't respawn it, so if it doesn't drop you have to start a new character for another chance of getting it x.x

[deft stump]

But I think you need to talk.

So, dook anyway.

[near gale]

He killed every npc in the ds2 hub area lol

[deft stump]

Farm rats , I guess.

IDK but there's a repair spell as well.

[near gale]

lol he did a cheese for the pursuer from the 1st pursuer spawn area and sat at the bonfire near where that is(if you blow up the wall)... which triggered it dying

At least he didn't try to throw in pacifist into that as well... that might have legit been impossible

[deft stump]

Heh.

[near gale]

Wonder how he's gonna get into the sewers since you apparently need 1368hp to survive the fall without the cat ring >.>

Oh he used a parry against the last npc in the ds2 hub area... the blue ring guy(didn't realize he was still alive)

[velvet crescent]

you ever have those moments when you queue up, then realize last second you forgot to change your build but its too late

[patent mango]

those who tide

[near gale]

We know that feeling lol

[velvet crescent]

i couldn't make it to ws just yet but my heart sank when i realized i was on ep and not ws

[near gale]

Enhanced Purgatory, instead of winning speed

[strong gulch]

relatable

true

[velvet crescent]

granted ep is fun on bb

but still

oh yeah i'm glad to be back on shriek again

[pure dragon]

Got it. That's all character penances completed

[velvet crescent]

i thought bubble was the current meta so when i heard shriek was actually all the rage i was immediately on it

[strong gulch]

Yay! Congrats!!

[velvet crescent]

yeah i just wanted an excuse to use shriek

meta be damned, i just wanted to look at blue fire

[pure dragon]

What was that build you were using? The void blast. Is it just a shield build with warp charges? Seemed pretty cool

[velvet crescent]

also fs

what do i do against giant enemies assuming uncanny, do i just spam lights?

[deft stump]

Illisi? Stroke and slash and panic.

Or run really.

Deimos is heavy spam.

[prime elk]

use your staff, because if you brought illisi, you equipped a staff that can handle crushers... right?

[deft stump]

Don't know the third mark so eh.

[prime elk]

obscurus is good at everything

[strong gulch]

I think this was it. I modified my havoc rending voidblast/ trauma build and panic chose -5% peril gen. It was rending shockwave + flurry with flak + cara and DS4.

I opted for bubble for more passive toughness gen.

[deft stump]

If you have burga... flee. Panic.

[prime elk]

leans more towards deimos though

[deft stump]

Question why you have two horde weapons.

[strong gulch]

I keep forgetting to take obscurus for a run since it was buffed,

[deft stump]

BB is your only hope now.

[pure dragon]

I haven't used voidblast before but it seems like a fun staff

Toppling big boys

[strong gulch]

Yee it do that.

I usually do the fire variant but I didn't want fire to spread to the monster. #psyker-class message

[near gale]

Huh... there's a repaire tree in one of dark souls 2's dlcs...

All u gotta do is whip it, apparently(might just be attack it) :/

[wispy bay]

I tried my best to play with blast staff, but still unable to enjoy it.

Just not for me

[strong gulch]

valid

[edgy heart]

Does -peril generation, effectively give block efficiency with kinetic deflection?

[strong gulch]

Ye

Or I should say that peril mitigation talents now work with KD. It used to only be stam scaling.

[deft stump]

Yes. I know cos I have a funni DH tank build for MM.

Is as silly as you think, budget slab if Clad isn't on and nobody else wanna help.

[edgy heart]

Can block a crusher overhead if I go full toughness and -peril generation

[deft stump]

No. Still insta down.

[edgy heart]

[deft stump]

Overheads are unblockable.

Only devil claw special parry.

[patent jacinth]

And shield plant

[deft stump]

Psyker.

[velvet crescent]

it's deimos

[edgy heart]

Small dumb question, does soul blaze kills count as warp attack kill?

[strong gulch]

For single the best DPS is L1 H2. Heavy spam is easier.

For non crushers theres L1 spam with quell or block cancel.

[strong gulch]

Yes

Well, SB is warp damage.

[velvet crescent]

Do I loop L1 H2?

[strong gulch]

Ye. Most of the big pp damage is in Deimos's H2. So either L1 H2 loop or heavy spam.

For smaller/ squishier elites, you can L1 spam with cancels. L1 hits pretty hard, not as hard as H2, but is more accessible.

An H2 to the head will knock over crushers and smaller (except mutants). That can be a good or bad thing.

If you have a crusher pack on you, you can H2 and PA (push attack) for CC.

[deft stump]

I don't really touch it thus just said heavy spam lul.

[strong gulch]

Can't go wrong with heavy spam tbh. It doesn't lag behind that much in terms of DPS and than the L1 H2 loop and heavy spam is easier to do.

[near gale]

I have no clue if this face is a reference to a character or not, but, this is the face he gave his ds3 no walk character >.>

[strong gulch]

chad

[near gale]

Oh, that guy?

[strong gulch]

Maybe

[near gale]

I sort of see it, if it was meant for that... x.x

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

I didn't see it looking like that at first >.>

[strong gulch]

Now can't unsee it.

[near gale]

lol he uses the bandit's knife for foward mobility... for the start of the run, anyway... and the shortbow for changing directions the slash moves him in(oh and quick step)

It looks so ridiculous that when he gets wombo comboed, it is hilarious

Anywya, I'm gonna go to bed before I slide out of my chair, o7

[deft stump]

12 noon now. I need to nap.

[opaque mulch]

any good revolver and knife builds for psyker?

[wispy bay]

There are but not as strong as Vet or Zealot.

[prime elk]

not worthwhile imo

[wispy bay]

It is mostly just the regular melee/gun psyker build.

[deft stump]

You go brrrrrrrr or no point of gunker.

[dull scroll]

knife is good for clutch

and running away 😌

[fathom adder]

coming back for annuva go
fixed dat for ya

[dull scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/chasing-chase-down-chase-gif-12244632

only if you escapes the dreaded blobs

[opaque mulch]

damn

[strong gulch]

Knife isn't bad, but we have better options.

If you go assail + SG + DD you can do well. Like already pointed out, typical gunker melee build.

Probably fanning revolver with HC and crucian and knife with uncanny and riposte.

[wispy bay]

Better options are either ds or force swords... which still keep knife as one of the best melee option.

[strong gulch]

can't go wrong with knife

[wispy bay]

It's just that the play style of running around is not as good for psyker compare to other.

[strong gulch]

I should point out that psyker has good stam regen and access to KD. So we can abuse PA on knife harder than other classes. Especially if you use a stam curio.

Mk 6 shines more on psyker because of that.

But also yeah, psyker doesn't have as much mitigation in melee for oppsies or sustained speed.

[wispy bay]

For knife+revolver combo, Vet has speed and huge damage bonus, Zealot has stamina and dodges, psyker relies on sustain killing to get bonus and keep up damage, plus the usual peril edging.

Which doesn't work well for psyker.

[strong gulch]

zealot at home

[wispy bay]

Yes, vet and zealot have jail out button. Gaze is a killing more button, while venting does work as jail out, it makes the melee/gun combo worse to use overall.

[dull scroll]

but lets face it, FGS/assail/gun is the most fun build you can play in auric

[wispy bay]

But not in the revolver knife setup.

[strong gulch]

The only guns I like with shriek are zarona and bistol.

[wispy bay]

Venting is the stronger overall imo, any weapon can work with it.

[strong gulch]

Ye

[sturdy reef]

just use knife to reposition as psyker

[strong gulch]

SG just works really well when you have no peril gen weapons.

I say zarona because u just reload your SG away.

[sturdy reef]

quickswap melee psyker to smite to reposition enemies and stall specialists is very fun

[edgy heart]

What's the range on venting shriek

[dull scroll]

illegally large

[mental rock]

Around 35ish meters I think

You can test it in psyk, just ping an enemy to see the distance

[dull scroll]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHg6tov0vDc&ab_channel=Skudie

[wind spruce]

30m

[velvet crescent]

okay

damnations as psyker are a lot smoother than my one successful damnation as a veteran

fire staff is huge

granted, sometimes they go belly up, but as psyker the chance of that happening is lower than normal

[tiny river]

What build you using?

[velvet crescent]

hang on a tic

[tiny river]

You don’t have to tell me exactly just like a tldr

[velvet crescent]

sure

bb, shriek, used to be ep but now ws

shriek fire

obvs cd reduction aura

[strong gulch]

You can use this site for easier screenshots.
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

[tiny river]

I like Gaze and Shield personally, Shield for Havoc and Gaze to just go wild

[velvet crescent]

fire staff and deimos sword

[proud grail]

chat…

Will the shock maul ever be good?

[strong gulch]

You can just fill out the tree and screenshot or save a build and link

[tiny river]

probably not

[proud grail]

BUT ITS SO FUN TO USE

[tiny river]

Is it?

Can’t say I ever tried it

[strong gulch]

pls buff

[tiny river]

Inferno staff is pretty good

[proud grail]

It’s damage sucks

but the swinging and special?

[velvet crescent]

i wonder...

[proud grail]

smooth…

[tiny river]

I like the Greatsword personally

[velvet crescent]

hey, is crit chance worth on fire staff?

[proud grail]

Yes.

[strong gulch]

Sure.

[proud grail]

TRUST ME, it’s so satisfying to clear out hordes with it

[velvet crescent]

it has flak and maniac rn, which one do i swap out

[strong gulch]

imo it's better to have a type damage buff but crit chance is universal

[tiny river]

If you’re going for hordes I’d say Infested

idk

[strong gulch]

You do get into diminishing returns tho on crit chance

[tiny river]

Is infested not good?

[strong gulch]

Your main choices as the second perk on inferno are unyielding, maniac, and crit chance

[strong gulch]

nope

[tiny river]

Oh

[torn kernel]

infested's only for like

[strong gulch]

They already die fast.

[torn kernel]

dogs right

[tiny river]

And poxwalkers no?

[torn kernel]

poxwalkers die way too fast to even consider +infested

[velvet crescent]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e251b1a-8a07-49dd-afd0-76e90fb25e67/current-psyk-build-plan-to-change

deflector isn't staying

[tiny river]

Honestly I’m still trying to figure out what like 70% of the names mean cause Fatshark is like the riddler

[velvet crescent]

once i don't suck ass, it goes out for slaughterer

[strong gulch]

The regular horde dudes, infested or unarmored die quick. No extra is needed for them.

[tiny river]

true

[strong gulch]

I wish the game actually named stuff.

[tiny river]

make the heretics suffer in the flame…… slowly…

[velvet crescent]

forgot empathic evasion

sorry warp rider

[tiny river]

like fatshark please I don’t know what brittleness is

or finesse

I still don’t know what finesse is

I know brittle

[velvet crescent]

actually

do i toss warp rider or kinetic deflection for emphatic evasion

[strong gulch]

Maniacs already die quickly but if you want ragers to die faster, that's your pick (overall not great tho)

Unyeilding is nice for monsters and non- crusher ogryns.

Crit chance is universal but crits do face diminishing returns.

So really inferno perks are flak + personal pref.

[torn kernel]

i approve of rager racism

fuck em

[torn kernel]

probably KD if you don't block/go for revives much

[tiny river]

REAL

[velvet crescent]

aight sure

my other idea was possibly wildfire

because like

im spewing fire everywhere

also holy shit sister prine hates psykers and i find it funny for some reason

lore accurate too

[torn kernel]

wildfire is a nice little qol for extending your burn range a little bit i guess

also stacks is stacks no matter how little ngl

it's nice when they come pre-cooked a little bit

[strong gulch]

Never toss warp rider

It's an always pick

[velvet crescent]

gotcha, think wildfire might be the call for toss?

[strong gulch]

Toss it if you want. It's good but if you're point starved, it's skippable.

[strong gulch]

Finesse is weakspot and crit damage and attack speed.

Finesse damage is weakspot and crit damage.

[tiny river]

Oh thanks

[velvet crescent]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e251b1a-8a07-49dd-afd0-76e90fb25e67/current-psyk-build-plan-to-change

i feel like tossing kinetic deflection might be a mistake but here's my current build

[strong gulch]

Just in case, brittleness is a rending debuff applied to an enemy. So anyone who hits that enemy benefits. Rending is a self buff.

Rending has higher scaling.

[velvet crescent]

no clue what psyker wants for curios besides toughness

quell speed fire staff was also a mistake, because i followed the steam guide

[strong gulch]

If you don't need KD, then you don't need it.

[velvet crescent]

Alright. Fire staff-is crit chance worth a perk spot?

[strong gulch]

I would recommend KF over KR tho. You hit so many enemies that it basically goes off on cool down and you are rarely actively using BB.

BUT if you push attack with FS, that can burst a burster in your face.

KF is just nice active damage.

KR is fine.

[velvet crescent]

Will do

BB I break out at times

[strong gulch]

If deimos is your main crusher killer, I'd rec putting cara on it instead of flak.

[buoyant maple]

Enemy debuff that causes your attacks’ armor damage modifier to be higher (deal more damage)

[buoyant maple]

Outside of weapon %stat RNG, it’s a generalist boost to weakspot, crit and crit-weakspot damage

[strong gulch]

Pay attention to your warp charges in your next game. If you are rarely at 6 before you shriek, drop warp battery to free up a point.

[velvet crescent]

Will do

Also

Fire staff

It's running flak and maniac but I feel like it could be changed

Infested, crit chance...?

[strong gulch]

Not infested.

[velvet crescent]

Unarmored?

[strong gulch]

inferno perks are flak + personal pref.

but

Maniacs already die quickly but if you want ragers to die faster, that's your pick (overall not great tho)

Unyeilding is nice for monsters and non- crusher ogryns.

Crit chance is universal but crits do face diminishing returns.

[velvet crescent]

I see

[strong gulch]

infested or unarmoured already die really quickly

[velvet crescent]

I'm thinking Flak/Unyielding

Crit chance had my eye though because I have Perfect Timing/EE

[strong gulch]

Sounds good.

You will already have high uptime without the 5% crit chance

[velvet crescent]

Got it, my last level is the 5% crit node

Also it looks like the Deimos isn't totally 60 warp res

77 finesse 63 warp res

negligible but something to note

[strong gulch]

If you have tons of mats, it's worth changing. If not, then meh.

[velvet crescent]

My plasteel's getting choked out so for now I'll let it stay

[velvet crescent]

oh yeah I mentally shat myself when I saw a deimos H2 on a crusher

shit dude that wasn't a one shot but a two shot is pretty damn good

[strong gulch]

Noice

[velvet crescent]

Is it worth activating my force sword btw?

[broken carbon]

have u seen obscurus crusher kill time

[broken carbon]

only against mutants really

otherwise no

[strong gulch]

99% it's not worth doing the special on deimos

[plucky flax]

Do it for swag.

[broken carbon]

even mutants you can reach a one shot on a weakspot hit

[velvet crescent]

4 shot deimos spamming heavies

not bad

[broken carbon]

without special

but that requires +maniac

[plucky flax]

Save people's lives.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1299759716519641098/deimos_swag.mp4?ex=67a580d0&is=67a42f50&hm=2c17264a2ad62995ce01da4eadc2c53fedd0dc9765eff4cc9305b5a31adb5ba5&

[tiny river]

Whats deimos……

[strong gulch]

You can stack uncanny quickly with a deimos special to the head, but most of the damage happens at the end and you get a weird animation that stops you in place. You can dodge out of it tho, but you effectively abondon the damage.

If you have +maniac and do a H2 to mutant head, you can one tap it.

[broken carbon]

penis shaped force sword

[tiny river]

oh that one

[plucky flax]

[strong gulch]

If you're bad like Agent or me, the deimos special can be a more guaranteed way to take out a mutant.

[strong gulch]

accurate

[velvet crescent]

nope

[broken carbon]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/jkCLzISgy6nGV8w-O?invite=cr-MSxQeW4sMjA0ODY2MDQ3LA

you can also do this with next to no buffs

[velvet crescent]

what the fuck

[broken carbon]

just uncanny and slaughterer

[prime elk]

max uncanny and slaughterer stacks will do that

yeah

[strong gulch]

Also DD and 20 sec damage from SG, but ye.

Obscurus buff good

[prime elk]

pretty sure you don't need any of those buffs

for the combo

[strong gulch]

Those are active

That's why I mentioned them.

[broken carbon]

yah i said u don’t actually need really any of those buffs

[nocturne dust]

then do that

[broken carbon]

that’s just the clip i have handy

[nocturne dust]

[broken carbon]

it is 1:48am and i have work tomorrow

[nocturne dust]

Imagine having a life

[strong gulch]

I keep forgetting to take the new obscurus out in missions.

[nocturne dust]

I don't like the moveset enough to ever use obscurus, methinks (unless it gets so op the moveset doesn't matter )

[broken carbon]

same!!!!

i need to

obscurus honestly feels like it’s just deimos but better

[strong gulch]

I am too trained to forget it

[broken carbon]

the only downside is the lack of stagger

but the damage is just so much higher

[prime elk]

deimos is still good

[strong gulch]

Sometimes the stagger is annoying. Less safe without it tho

So it's nice to have both options

[broken carbon]

i never said it wasn’t??

[prime elk]

i didn't said you said it wasn't??

[broken carbon]

then why did you say deimos is still good!!

[prime elk]

because it still is

[broken carbon]

nobody disagreed!!

you said it for seemingly no reason which is why i clarified my point

[prime elk]

well you were talking about how great obscurus is so i felt the need to clarify deimos is still good too 😭

[velvet crescent]

edited, open for criticism

[broken carbon]

in case u misunderstood, which you saying “deimos is still good” without any previous context, made it seem as though you interpreted me saying obscurus feels like a better deimos as “deimos isn’t good anymore”

[velvet crescent]

warning

i have no clue what to do with curios

so if you get an irl bb reading my curios that's why

[broken carbon]

dump warp res on infernus staff

[prime elk]

anyway if your'e strictly looking for a crusher-deleting sidearm for staffker

[broken carbon]

also maniac to unyielding

[prime elk]

i think deimos is still better tbh

[velvet crescent]

edited-ish
i screwed up and used the steam guide for my fire staff

so it's quell speed until i get enough mats for another one

[broken carbon]

swap sniper red to gunner res,

toughness regen speed isn’t really good at all, it only applies to coherency regen, which is a very small amount of toughness to begin with, id swap it to health or toughness perks

[summer prairie]

it's not small

[velvet crescent]

health or toughness eh? sure

[broken carbon]

fair

[broken carbon]

yes it is

[nocturne dust]

no

Go away with your zealot logic

[velvet crescent]

yeaaaaaaah i had no idea steam guide wasn't running on the same track as you guys so that's why i invested in this fire staff

[nocturne dust]

Toughness regen is fine (if you stack 3 substats)

[dull scroll]

get a 3 stim curio if you are lucky enough to spot one at shop, or already have it

[prime elk]

yeah i think toughness regen is fine

[broken carbon]

it’s “fine”, but it’s a very minimal amount of toughness, and it doesn’t come into play when you actually need it, (melee)

[nocturne dust]

It's a lot of toughness

And it also does come into play in melee when you stack it

because all you have to do is dodge backwards and you start regening due to the reduced delay

and also also

[summer prairie]

it's 5% per second without buffs if your team is in coherency. It's very good when your team is actually alive, the issue is you usually don't need it when they are

[nocturne dust]

Psyker is a ranged-first class

[broken carbon]

yes that’s my exact point

[velvet crescent]

wildfire hurts a bit to lose for kd, but ill just spam fire staff

[nocturne dust]

True, it does nothing for clutches

[summer prairie]

that wasn't your point

[velvet crescent]

do i spam lmb with fire staff or rmb

[summer prairie]

you said it's small

[nocturne dust]

But if you're a learner, completely fine as a stat

[summer prairie]

so it's 9.5% per second with buffs, not small at all

[broken carbon]

toughness regen isn’t good because you don’t have it when it’s actually needed

[broken carbon]

it’s not a percentage, it’s a flat value

[summer prairie]

fine

[nocturne dust]

I mean, only if your issues are always melee

which like

my issues are never melee

[broken carbon]

it’s 14.25 per second with 3 teammates and 3x toughness regen

which yes seems good but again

[nocturne dust]

Spreadout annoying shooters staring at me from railings

[broken carbon]

it has a .8 second delay with 3x

[nocturne dust]

which is small

[broken carbon]

enough to get you killed by shooters and gunners

[nocturne dust]

real small

[broken carbon]

it’s NORMAL SIZED!!!

[velvet crescent]

offtopic a moment
this is a new scam

[nocturne dust]

[velvet crescent]

this gonna be fun

[broken carbon]

and FULLY FUNCTIONAL

[velvet crescent]

bro doesn't know im literally the only one with my steam name

[nocturne dust]

if you die with 14.25 toughness a second to shooters...

[broken carbon]

because it has a delay

lmfao

[nocturne dust]

either you're in Havoc or I'm sorry for your skill issue

[nocturne dust]

.8 seconds

[broken carbon]

i don’t die to gunners essentially ever on psyker

[nocturne dust]

your toughness does not deplete in .8 seconds unless you're being blasted point blank by a gunner

[broken carbon]

but i also don’t run toughness regen

ever

i also play melee psyker

[nocturne dust]

I run toughness regen on zealot

[broken carbon]

eugh

[autumn lark]

Gunner resist W

[nocturne dust]

I don't run it on psyker since I clutch with psyker