psyker-class

[patent mango]

i have no idea if thats right still

[deft stump]

I forgot the .

[nocturne dust]

close enough

[deft stump]

I basically just woke up.

Brain half eepy.

[nocturne dust]

no we measure things in feet

but not your feet

American feet Big, like Texas

[deft stump]

Looks like Bigfoot's foot.

Cos uhhh, I don't think 6 feet after another will be enough to like, measure most ppl in height.

[nocturne dust]

well not your small feet of course

[patent mango]

dwarf?

[nocturne dust]

Big American feet tho?

[patent mango]

https://tenor.com/bC1Ll.gif

[deft stump]

I thought it was halflings with the big feet?

[patent mango]

ogryn

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/al-bundy-bundy-al-bundy-feet-married-with-children-gif-24615423

[past sparrow]

Is it just me or is Psychic Vampire, more consistent than In Fire Reborn, that is for the Warp Siphon tree

[deft stump]

Maybe cos enemies die before burnt by soulfire more often than not?

[nocturne dust]

Depends on your build. Generally, it will be.

[past sparrow]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9da611bf-3ad5-45ea-adad-c1688476fabe/hechs-havoc-lvl40-purg-bubble-build I am using this but with Kinetic Presence, as i am doing Masteries for these weapons atm, and Telekine Shield damage penance

[past sparrow]

that is definitely possible

[nocturne dust]

oh lawd

Hech

[past sparrow]

also a good veteran on the team can easily steal all the Elites and Specials

quite frustrating when someone is bringing a bolter

[nocturne dust]

I wouldn't recommend a Havoc build for mastery

Havoc is special

In Fire Reborn tho should be better for an Inferno staff, yes

[deft stump]

Havoc makes you do things you never will otherwise, from what i've heard.

[nocturne dust]

Yes

[past sparrow]

Havoc is what again ?

the new game mode right ?

[nocturne dust]

Lots of Havoc choices are kinda trash outside it

Yes, new gamemode

You speak to Dukane to access it

[past sparrow]

Whats so special about it

[nocturne dust]

A lot of things

[deft stump]

It's brutally hard.

[nocturne dust]

It nerfs quell speeds, ammo, toughness, etc.

[deft stump]

Some people like it, others just want the cosmetics but require carries.

[nocturne dust]

Creates a lot of unique effects

[nocturne dust]

By some people, you mean @zinc phoenix

I mean I'm sure there are others

but they're the only one I've seen in Psyker chat

[deft stump]

IDK man, I just want the knoife pants on my vet.

But with AgentChaos scoreboard, you can tell I'm basically panicking so hard and doing barely anything but barely usable bubbles, yeah.

[patent mango]

havoc is silly goofy

[past sparrow]

the set from it does indeed look nice, but from what i can see it just requires wins

not going hardcore high diff in it

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, the set isn't too hard to get

[patent mango]

grindy

[deft stump]

For some.

[ruby chasm]

Imo after multiple 40 clears its more on the annoying side than hard not saying its easy either

[nocturne dust]

It's definitely hard

[deft stump]

I swear if 25 is harder than 20... I probably need to ask for like, 3 of you to carry super hard.

[nocturne dust]

Like, it may be easy to do in a technical sense

[deft stump]

And just figure out how to put us on a not laggy server for you guys.

[nocturne dust]

but practically, it's hard. You need a team, you need specific builds, you need to take your time. Miss any of those aspects and it becomes exponentionally harder

[nocturne dust]

I have bad news

[deft stump]

I know it's harder.

[ruby chasm]

yea trying to do it without a dedicated 4 person group must be way harder. I fully admit my perspective on this is skewed because I did most of my clears with a group in vc

[deft stump]

And is why IDK if Chaos can solo carry 25.

Maybe?

[nocturne dust]

Chaos is really good, they can.

But like, not with a 100% winrate probably. Bound to make mistakes.

[deft stump]

Cos I'm obviously bad and the other two might as well be random pugs, is server LFG but well.

[deft stump]

I know, a random doggo can end things hard.

[patent mango]

sog

[past sparrow]

What would you recommend then, i am actually finished with all Brain Rupture Penances as well, so some build with Telekine would be good

[deft stump]

Couldn't get her when she was jumping on me lul.

'Attack' puppo, much slobber yes.

[keen solar]

Drip check

[ruby chasm]

I love fgs

[nocturne dust]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d5f5cb5-afee-4f51-9393-b8429e8c6765/the-burning-man-inferno-guide

This guide is for non-Havoc

You should be able to switch to Bubble fairly easily, but I would recommend shriek if you want to get it done as quickly as possible

[narrow herald]

I'm still thinking about what blessings I should use for Havoc 🤔

[burnt gazelle]

might be smoother to go EP if bubble, idk if you need warp charge bubbles up that regularly on auric

[deft stump]

I think it just depends on how good the team is.

[ruby chasm]

what weapons

[narrow herald]

Blaze Away is a given, but the other is either pen or nexus

[burnt gazelle]

my expectations for auric teams at this precise moment are pretty low due to havoc and holidays

[nocturne dust]

yes

[burnt gazelle]

but if you have ppl you can trust to shoot specials/elites/etc you don't need to put much investment into bb yh

[narrow herald]

Thank you, have a nice day

[deft stump]

Cos if everything is boomed, you don't need bubble as much.

[nocturne dust]

Pen Flame is actually really good if you have another source of brittleness spam

like rending trauma

[scarlet comet]

why don't they let us buy any of the available cosmetics at all times, I'm stupid and would immediately spend real life money on this

[nocturne dust]

You can easily start eating crushers with it since Pen Flame stacks

[narrow herald]

The reason why I am leaning towards pen is because it is slightly better for bosses

[deft stump]

I mean, I totally would have an excuse to get at least 3 sets if so.

[narrow herald]

Yes it can also stack with Zealot flamer, but that is assusming you both take pen

[nocturne dust]

uh no

[narrow herald]

Of course against bosses, Zealots should bring a brittle bolt gun

[deft stump]

And suffer my choices since I already have a miniscule budget for games.

[nocturne dust]

It stacks with other brittleness

meaning it goes over the 40% cap

Pen Flame can get you to 60% brittleness

[narrow herald]

Flamer is not another source?

[nocturne dust]

It's a 20% source, you want a 40% source

and also flamer has better blessings

like Overpressure

[past sparrow]

Could this work with smite instead ?

and Telekine Shield ofc

[narrow herald]

Smite focus isn't good with Warp

Also the problem with shield is that you then can't exploit the Smite duration

Shield also really likes warp to lower the cooldown

[nocturne dust]

I mean, Inferno lacks something to snipe specials and smite largely covers the same ground as Inferno

[weary idol]

fellas do perils of the warp cause brain damage

[patent mango]

yea

[narrow herald]

I think they want to replace the inferno with smite

[nocturne dust]

They said work with smite

so if they did mean replace that is a very roundabout way to say it

[narrow herald]

Idk, I think not taking BB with inferno is troll

[nocturne dust]

Well, Assail is fine if we ignore Psykinetics and Wildfire.

[queen fog]

Letting a servitor play the game for you is disheartening

Adds insult to injury in that lads case since it made him blow up

[nocturne dust]

Damaging your fingers over a game is disheartening

[queen fog]

I am a man with limits, I’m not gonna quell cancel

But I will laugh/complain about people who make robots do it for them

[nocturne dust]

Well don't.

It's a PvE game.

[clear heath]

quell cancel lmb actually works in vanilla if you just bind them to the same key

[queen fog]

I’ve only known vanilla so that’s some good info

[past sparrow]

True, im just kinda finished up with smite and vent

[nocturne dust]

I mean, you can run whatever you want, but you will be forced to rely on your teammates in some situations if you don't have BB or Assail to cover Inferno.

[cloud night]

Tfw revolver covers smite's weakness

[clear heath]

simply run 40 meters towards that sniper/bomber

[nocturne dust]

Yeah cuz there definitely aren't any situations where snipers sit up on a high ledge you can't get to

like say

the end event of a map or something

like one where you disable anti-air guns and then have to fight a boss

definitely not a high walkway enemies jump down from on which snipers can sit

[clear heath]

just ask them politely to walk up to you

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/puss-in-boots-cat-cute-kitty-begging-gif-12698667

[narrow herald]

I wonder, can a Warp smite work? 🤔

Like instead of Psyonics, just use warp with peril reduction node

[nocturne dust]

I mean, smite is still CC

it does have non-EP build usage

[deft stump]

That's just knoife/ds gameplay.

[weary idol]

if you're weird maybe

like how the heavy attack node for smite also applies the extra damage taken

[nocturne dust]

Imagine not having KeepSwinging

[weary idol]

if this extra info on skills mod I have isn't wrong it actually applies the extra damage taken multiple times

[nocturne dust]

No? Before Kinetic Flayer, smite was very much the normal choice for most non-Inferno staff builds

[deft stump]

I turbo controller it, but it makes heavies harder to do.

[jovial juniper]

Scratch that
Scriers Smite with Warp syphon
We love high peril

[narrow herald]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[nocturne dust]

well no

that's not why you would-

[narrow herald]

Crit smite when Fatshark?

[jovial juniper]

They can't
The sheer amount of Empathic Evasion procs would brick the game

[patent mango]

yippie!!!!!

got it with fgs bistol build

[past sparrow]

I feel like its a very hard pick between Riposte and Thrust for the Maccabian MK4

[narrow herald]

Both are fine, but the reason why thrust is good on Psyker is because Psyker can't one shot Mutants even with maniac

[past sparrow]

Ic it just seems like the crit rate from Riposte would be so easy to get

as you dodge sideways all the time when hordes are present

[deft stump]

Wait a sec. Does that mean I do 10% more bonk on moonlight?

[nocturne dust]

Only after the first hit

and only if the first hit is a heavy

Don't do it

[deft stump]

I mean, the thrust poke is what kills.

[past sparrow]

Lol right Force Greatsword is basically Moonlight Greatsword, only just struck me

[deft stump]

Not the overhead in most situations lul.

[patent mango]

genuinely would be decent if charged strike wasnt slop node

[nocturne dust]

Thrust is really good because (Staff) Psyker plays very defensively with melee, so any time an enemy comes at you, you get a very strong opening move. Works on mutants, crushers, and even bosses. It lets you spend more time out of their reach as well by dodging away to charge up another strike.

[nocturne dust]

Exactly

You don't need the 10%

[deft stump]

But but but, funni.

Also. I know it won't help with crusher breakpoints and such.

It's 3-4 heavy bonks.

[clear heath]

a 10% buff for one of two swings is an average increase of 5%
for 2 talent points

this is some dogshit

2.5% damage per talent point

you could argue it's closer to 10% for 2 points against a boss i guess

but it's also worthless for things you don't heavy

[past sparrow]

ic, outside of Duelling Sword, Force Sword and presumable Force Greatsword what else is good for melee ?

[clear heath]

or things you one shot

[deft stump]

I mean, I took the 5% on targets hit on the ds4 on Zealot lul.

[nocturne dust]

Knife

well, Knife moreso for running around than damage

[narrow herald]

Funniest combo is precog/thrust Zealot

[nocturne dust]

on psyker at least

[deft stump]

You know, funni poking stick that rarely pokes more than 1-2 things per poke.

[nocturne dust]

Psyker also has classic options that work well on other classes like Rashad

[burnt gazelle]

knife push attack spam is turbo safe tho

[nocturne dust]

but imo, Psyker still very much sucks in melee even on meleeker, so you kinda need to take one of the OP options or class-exclusive options to make it feel at least okay

[past sparrow]

Knife speedrunning with Kerilliam was a lot of fun

[iron fjord]

anyone tryna help with the cliffhanger penance

[patent mango]

force greatsword is real!!!!!

[nocturne dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1321371717599367198/Greatsword_Elmo.gif

[patent mango]

i did get nearly 900k melee dmg with it in havoc 40

its fire

[deft stump]

M1 inf ammo shortbow fun.

You can just hold button and just never run out if lucky enough.

Just ult if somehow need a refill.

[wind spruce]

That's nuts. Were you running bubble?

[patent mango]

scriers

i posted scoreboard above though i think warp slice doesnt coutn as melee dmg in it

[wind spruce]

Nutty

[wind spruce]

What are you running on bistol?

[patent mango]

im liking deadly accurate surgical

[noble mason]

u have support zealots? or just went in that hard

[patent mango]

everyone usually goes support yea

[noble mason]

gotcha. i usually pub and run charge on my zealot

[patent mango]

1 guy even wanted me to go bubble but i think 3 support abilities is good lmaooo

[noble mason]

ya its whatever. i dont tell anyone what to play

was wondering what was keeping u alive. i cant seem to have any toughness when running fgs with scriers

[patent mango]

just constantly stabbing stuff helps a lot with staying alive tbh

[west heath]

Keep the enemies health low and yours high

[magic cipher]

Would a psyker melee/staff build be able to clutch in auric maelstroms? 🙂

Kinda want to go ham with the greatsword

[patent mango]

yea

[magic cipher]

Awesome, I'll need to sort out a good build then

What would the best staff pairing with a greatsword build be?

[patent mango]

idk trauma probably

[magic cipher]

Cool ty

[iron fjord]

i need help with the cliff hanger penance

[weary crane]

is 1.6k kills good?

apparently I did 1.7k dmg which doesnt make sense to me

[wind spruce]

1.7k is less than a crusher so, yeah, doesn't check out

[magic cipher]

Anyone know what the advantages/disadvantages of mark 6 vs mark 8 on the FGS are?

[patent mango]

mark 6 elite kill mk8 horde clear

[deft stump]

Mark 8 better hordes, 6 bonking big stuff/bosses.

[magic cipher]

Hmm, tough choice for a melee build then

[deft stump]

6 can still deal with hordes with wrath though, just not as good.

[patent mango]

you'll destroy everything with it either way

[deft stump]

Unless special boom.

That thing clears rooms.

[prime elk]

both are pretty well-rounded

mk8's single target is a bit worse, but it's horde clear is materially better than mk6's

so for that reason, i stick with mk8

but you can't go wrong with either

[nocturne dust]

mk6 has the stab after the slice, it also gets a horizontal light after push (no push attack needed)

I mean, mk8 also gets the same horizontal light after push, but its lights are already horizontal

[magic cipher]

Awesome, thanks for all the help 😁

[clear heath]

real decision maker for me is mk6 has stab after slice, mk8 has stab after push attack

[magic cipher]

I have assail on my melee build but tbh I'm barely using it. Might swap it for bubble

[clear heath]

i special so much more than i push attack

[magic cipher]

Wait I'm dumb

[prime elk]

time to push attack more

[patent mango]

noooooooo

[zinc phoenix]

We should resolve this FGS dispute in the traditional manner of the Imperium: everyone involved is a heretic and requires barbecuing

[iron fjord]

anytips for the cliff hanger penance solo

[zinc phoenix]

Yeet the baddies off the cliff

[iron fjord]

awesome, now to keep it up for another 3 hours

[wind spruce]

Ok so warp slice w/ puncture is hilarious

[nocturne dust]

wait

it doesn't work with blazing spirit

[wind spruce]

Yes

[nocturne dust]

but it works with puncture

[prime elk]

has to be a glitch

[wind spruce]

No shit

[prime elk]

no way that's intended.... right??

[nocturne dust]

FUG U FATSHARK

THIS IS WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS

[iron fjord]

any real tips ?

[patent mango]

trolled

[patent mango]

probably a tutorial on youtube tbh

[ornate hamlet]

I know I already asked this earlier, but how’s the Mk 12 chainaxe fare on psyker compared to the Mk 8 blaze greatsword? And also what blessings on the chainaxe

[hollow current]

puncture works with zealot knives too

[patent mango]

i think chainaxe kinda sucks on psyker imo lol

[plucky flax]

Bistol

[iron fjord]

tried, teammates keeps killing them all

[hollow current]

same kinda interaction is happening. blessing is triggering on anything player does when out.

[patent mango]

cast bullet

[ornate hamlet]

Noted, but just so I can learn may I ask why?

[prime elk]

it's not a force sword, it's not a DS, therefore bad 👍

oh, and not a rashad either

[patent mango]

the damage just feels kinda eh

[prime elk]

literally trash tier

[patent mango]

and some attacks lock you in place

[hollow current]

chain weapons shouldn't have a cleave penalty vs flak.

[ornate hamlet]

Good to know

In other news, Psyker just became my first level 30 in this game

[magic cipher]

Is there a tech I need to learn for trauma staff? I see people spam the circle attack but I'm getting peril built up fast

[deft stump]

It wat. Are you telling me bolt pistol psyker now?

[ornate hamlet]

I was just told to use Empyric Resolve

[magic cipher]

Cool thanks 🙂

[wind spruce]

Tbf bistol psyker was already based

[ornate hamlet]

Np

[wind spruce]

But puncture FGS is next level

[deft stump]

I usually thought you wanted brrrrrrrr on gunker.

[plucky flax]

I love big sword and bistol.

[nocturne dust]

You do

[plucky flax]

Super cool weapons.

[wind spruce]

You do but bistol is cool

[nocturne dust]

Bistol isn't super meta. It's alright tho

[plucky flax]

Bistol is so clear from revolver.

[deft stump]

I mean, I thought the best thing it had was aimed stability and FRAGFRAGFRAG LONG FRAG.

[patent mango]

give bistol surge blessing

[wind spruce]

Revolver was always cope on psyker tbf

[nocturne dust]

plz no

[plucky flax]

Surge surgical meta.

[nocturne dust]

Kill the crit meta

Let it die

[clear heath]

give bistol blazing spirit

[deft stump]

How about revolver so I can replace handcannon with it?

[wind spruce]

Surge puncture

[plucky flax]

Without surgical though it's hard to crit.

I guess if you do tru aim.

But I feed my tru aim for assails.

[iron fjord]

what if team kills them all

[deft stump]

Just "1" shot crushers, it's ezy.

[patent mango]

idk ask your teammates to not

and hope

[wind spruce]

Kill team

[deft stump]

Since 2 crits usually do it even without handcannon.

[wind spruce]

That's what the barrels are for

[iron fjord]

yeah that sucks

[deft stump]

Handcannon just makes it 1 crit, 1 non crit weakpoint.

[plucky flax]

Btw Karien my internet seems to work better now. I think my laptop doesn't like the 5G signal from this place.

The regular one works better.

[deft stump]

Oh. I'm still going to be dook at havoc though.

It's a godsend I don't fumble into a hole panicking already.

Or maybe cos Illisi dodge isn't like knoife.

[plucky flax]

Lol I have been charging my watch for the last half hour but it wasn't plugged in.

Illisi dodge got buffed.

It's pretty good now.

[deft stump]

Yes, still not knoife lvl.

As in, I dodged myself off a map lvl.

[plucky flax]

Only thing can match knife is ds5.

[deft stump]

While panicking.

To be fair wireless be hit or miss at times. GF hated my house wifi lul.

[deft stump]

I found that out. But to be fair, I dump mobility on all my ds.

Yes, I have 4 of them. My vet technically has 2.

[magic cipher]

Feeling curious about Illisi, is its single target good enough to deal with crushers?

[plucky flax]

Even if you dump mobility ds5 has defense stat to increase dodge range. Regardless you'll get 15% dodge distance with it which matches the knife.

[deft stump]

I personally say no since I will blow myself up first. But that's just me.

[plucky flax]

So yes very easy to ledge yourself with ds5/knife.

[plucky flax]

No even with uncanny it's a bit sus.

[magic cipher]

I'm likely to do the same 😂 Thanks!

[plucky flax]

But if you pair illisi with surge staff you can just zap crushers.

[clear heath]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/487110864504094730/1311384845204848853/illisi_propaganda.gif

[deft stump]

I know. Knoife Zealot. The number of times I dodged off the map...

[clear heath]

simply stack an unrealistic amount of buffs

[plucky flax]

I tried to bring uncanny iliisi to melee scab only.

It didn't go well.

[deft stump]

Need to stroke too much.

[plucky flax]

Stroke that illusy

Wait what

[deft stump]

IKR.

Nothing. Just polishing my nice horde clear sword, yes.

[clear heath]

realistically if you're on top of most of your reasonable buffs on a dedicated melee build, you'll 3 hit a crusher with illisi

[plucky flax]

Big sword in melee scab only tho

It's so fun.

[magic cipher]

That sounds fun 👀

[plucky flax]

(Not as good as ds4 but a lot more fun)

[deft stump]

But when you run ds4 on vet and zealot already, you want funni on psyker and regret everything.

[clear heath]

yeah i don't run ds4 psyker much cause I dont want all my builds to feel the same

[deft stump]

Cos uhh, me bad no agile inf dodge abooze.

[patent mango]

ds4 just needs to do less cara dmg at least

[deft stump]

And I can't wrap my head around deimos.

Too ST.

[patent mango]

stabby

[deft stump]

Hordes scare the dook out of me even more.

[clear heath]

stab for single target
for hordes you can kinda just mash whatever

[patent mango]

deimos horde clear is better than ds still i think

[deft stump]

Not worth the random boom goes crusher head.

[deft stump]

Not as fast. Abooze light+special funni.

Rapid fire pokes.

[patent mango]

tbh i havent even used ds or force swords since updoot

[deft stump]

And if you poke heds, you inf dodge ontop of killing faster.

Which is why is funnier on zealot.

[plucky flax]

Yeah with slaughterer it's faster.

[deft stump]

Well, I have slaughterer on the Illisi, so my deimos run had it.

[clear heath]

what if
rampage ds2?

i actually don't know if that would be enough

[plucky flax]

I wish ds2 heavy 2 has better angle.

It's too acute.

[deft stump]

Maybe 6 knoife memes. But knoife has better hit area.

[ornate hamlet]

Quick question: with Blaze Trauma build, when do I use Venting Shriek? Just whenever it’s off cooldown, when I have high peril, or just when it looks like a good idea?

[deft stump]

I think depends on what ability though.

[ornate hamlet]

Oh sorry forgot to specify Venting Shriek

[deft stump]

Vent is high peril especially if you get the other stuff with it or to negate dook ups. Bubble is as needed though more warp siphon charges better. IDK scryers. I basically will kill myself with it without the thing.

[plucky flax]

Whenever you're fighting and at above 84 peril

[wind spruce]

Or if there's another psyker make sure you use it whenever there's a risk of them claiming soulblaze stacks

Even if at zero peril

[patent mango]

idk with scriers i usually just press it whenever i see enemies to stab

[magic cipher]

What sort of builds are used with trauma staff in high end activities? I've just built one with 60 warp resistance and am excited to give it a try

Can it just slot into the inferno staff builds?

Also do you guys go warp flurry or blazing spirit?

[deft stump]

Psychic Vampire ftw?

[wind spruce]

I just meant in terms of scoreboard damage

Psychic vampire doesn't care who's soulblaze it is

[deft stump]

Oh. I don't care about that that much. Just wanna know how badly I got carried because I know I did at times.

[deft stump]

But in fire reborn seems like stack owner.

[wind spruce]

My bad I was thinking about in fire reborn, and nah it's owner agnostic

[deft stump]

Oh so both just rng charges?

[wind spruce]

Also I was joking lel

[wind spruce]

Well, yeah, but my point is that it can be anyone's soulblaze for in fire reborn

[deft stump]

What even is team score and is 140 even good lul.

[wind spruce]

All the scoring is stupid, turn all of that stuff off

[deft stump]

Ah, so either technically works unless team is like 3 vets.

Then psychic vampire better.

[patent mango]

the scoring system is peak its basically just gambling

[deft stump]

I mean, I think is just I play vet who throws only my regenning grenades that time.

So everyone ate - to said score for ammo. Also was loot gremlining.

Cos I think I was the only one still needing them for curios.

And gear.

1400 ex.

To be fair, I actually don't use it nor mod anyway. Is just curiousity at times.

[ornate hamlet]

Got it, ty

[plucky flax]

You wanna play? I need more havoc assists.

[magic cipher]

Think I might make that build with either Illisi or mark 8 FGS for hoard clear and a zappy staff to kill carapace enemies

[deft stump]

I can get on. Am actually still in bed lul. Woke after like 4 hours so more like a nap.

[plucky flax]

Keep sleeping

[deft stump]

Nu.

[plucky flax]

If you're in SG I think we're in same timezone.

10:15am?

I was up since 530

[deft stump]

No caffeine. And no. 11:15am.

[plucky flax]

Huh I thought SG is same timezone as vietnam.

[deft stump]

Nope.

Is the same as a certain part of Indonesia and Malaysia though.

Vietnam is same as Thailand.

Also, have you tried them fried bugs?

:3

[plucky flax]

No I have not seen it here.

I would try though.

[deft stump]

Oh, guess not rural enough.

[plucky flax]

Been here too long I am ready to go back home to the cold.

[deft stump]

Is now quite ex especially in bigger cities.

Oh.

So sightseeing?

[plucky flax]

Yeah family and some sightseeing/holidays.

I am Vietnamese.

Viet Brit whatever.

[deft stump]

Ah. So more brit ascent? If you had mic.

[plucky flax]

No I came to UK when I was old already.

Just Asian accent.

[deft stump]

Oh, heh.

So vox 13 as usual and see if we can find two others?

[plucky flax]

Aye can do.

Still no mic I didn't pack one with me.

[deft stump]

If you use phone, technically you have a mic.

Heh.

[plucky flax]

Someone is watching a movie in the room.

Do you have voice activation on or something? You're breathing in mic I think

No AC in SG? Heavy risk

[deft stump]

Ex. Mom will kill.

The electricity bill is already $200~

[plucky flax]

Fair. I am just using free electricity from this place we rent so AC is on 24/7

[deft stump]

Ah.

[slim acorn]

.> carrying on a sub 30 class is frustrating, especially when my gear isn't strong enough to quickly kill 6 crushers and my party gets wiped

doubly so when every other person was at least lvl 100, but my party score was 136...

[zinc wedge]

I believe it's time to start psyker

[magic cipher]

Is MK8 FGS and Electro staff a good load out for high tier stuff?

[steep loom]

probably

some guy in my last hi stig game hard carried with it

did double everyone else's damage

[magic cipher]

Nice, I'm tempted to build it then 👀 What's hi stig though?

[steep loom]

high intensity shock trooper gauntlet

auric modifier

[magic cipher]

Ah cool, thanks very much!

[deft stump]

1 more for havoc 21-25? APAC region.

[indigo plank]

Low key hilarious that it’s 22 THOUSAND dia and then less ordos than you get from any single mission lol

[magic cipher]

Could anyone point me towards a good trauma staff build pls? I need something to use when there's other psykers using inferno

[wind spruce]

You can switch to shriek without changing anything else

Oh and take kinetic flayer instead of the extra toughness

[magic cipher]

Thanks very much!

Would you use warp flurry or blazing spirit on the trauma staff? Or something else? 🙂

[deft stump]

Err, quick question, is it good to drop holy revenant for stalwart?

[plucky flax]

Come join us.

Need 1 more APAC

[plucky flax]

If the other psyker is burga then use rending.

[magic cipher]

Great thanks! I'll probably only use trauma in that scenario so I'll do that 😁

[wicked hornet]

so on a rending trauma staff you want flurry as the 2nd blessing and for perks like crit chance and flak/carp?

[upper galleon]

Crit chance only for blazing spirit

[magic cipher]

It would be warp nexus and rending right?

Ah wait nvm

[wicked hornet]

so if you're using a rending trauma staff would you take PC and wildfire?

[wind spruce]

I'm out of town for the night 😦

[wind spruce]

PC yes. Wildfire definitely no.

You always take PC.

[prime elk]

usually but not always

[wind spruce]

True, gunker can skip it sometimes now that we have more talents. That's about it.

[prime elk]

yeah if we're talking about just trama it's prob still worth taking

[wicked hornet]

so why on a blazing spirt would you take crit on the perk but not on rending? also would that mean the node above KD for 5% crit chance is not needed?

[wind spruce]

Because crit synergises with blazing spirit but not with rending

[upper galleon]

Cause trauma crits have barely any finesse

Blazing is what you want to crit for

Or surge m1 procs

[wind spruce]

That's not why. Even high finesse weapons don't take crit chance perks without other synergies.

[upper galleon]

That’s also true

[magic cipher]

Sorry I just want to double check - wildfire is or isn't worth on a rending trauma staff? 🙂

[wicked hornet]

wildfire isn't worth on rending

[magic cipher]

Might swap it out for empathic vision then, ty 👍

Or maybe battle meditation

Or warp battery

Or inner tranquility

So many options

[wind spruce]

If you're running with another psyker that's using seer's presence, you could spend that extra point to get prescience.

[haughty star]

Empirical is multiplicative so inner tranquility goes a long way. You can eek off four? From 83 peril on ek stave as opposed to two with just er

So i imagine it's got a similar effect running trauma

[keen solar]

Question

Should I have dumdum or deathspitter on my recon

[plucky flax]

Dumdum

[unreal bridge]

Can anyone give me a quick run down of the staffs?

[quick tulip]

Inferno = Flamethrower but brain
Electrokinetic = Palpatine found a stick
Trauma = brain make bad people go boom
Voidblast = bolter but brain

[unreal bridge]

Ogryn talk just how I like it

[unreal bridge]

Could h rank em by any chance?

[quick tulip]

Not particularly, I'm very biased away from the staves as a gunker psylot

Inferno is great because it's just flamethrower with no ammo restriction is about all I know outside of a more passing "they all do different things and are great at doing what they do"

[unreal bridge]

Oh alright bet

I just wanna play staffs

I played ogryn already and I was having a ton of fun but I wanna try the staffs now

Cause magic

[quick tulip]

I hear Inferno and Voidblast are a good start, inferno's just a bit tricky at times because it has no longrange

When I do grab a stick it's usually inferno

[unreal bridge]

I’ll try electro first cause papa palp is a goat

Inferno looks sick but I’m level 8 on psyker so

Is there a melee weapon explanation about anywhere?

I know some of them use magic too but idk em

[quick tulip]

Force Sword variants
a la
Obscurus, Deimos, Illissi
As well as the Force Greatsword

Mainly your push attack is a single target push with a 10-meter range (iirc)

[unreal bridge]

Bet force great sword looks cool so I’ll try that out first

[quick tulip]

Mk8 will have the easier combos

[unreal bridge]

I’ll focus on that a lil later I wanna get a feel for all the staffs first

Do you know if there are builds that mainly/only use staffs?

[magic cipher]

Definitely wouldn't recommend the trauma/voidblast staff early on

[unreal bridge]

:0 why?

[magic cipher]

It's so much better end game imo, early on there isn't enough peril mitigation and stuff dies too fast for it to be any use

[unreal bridge]

Ohhh alright

[iron fjord]

i hate cliffhanger

[quick tulip]

wild to me they nerfed it to Hel and it's still tricky

[iron fjord]

its not even a skill thing its just luck

ive been stuck on it all day

[quick tulip]

Of when Vigil Station rolls by?

Lol

[iron fjord]

also riser 51, and logistratum

[quick tulip]

I find it's easier for all parties if you tell them you want to try to get the penance

Can be cheesed with one or two others only pushing enemies so they bunch up easy

But otherwise, yeah it's a roll of the warp

[plucky flax]

Normal psyker thing

[iron fjord]

honestly they either ignore then kick or just kill em

[magic cipher]

Part of me wants to go melee psyker and main the FGS for the cool factor but I find it hard to justify when the inferno staff obliterates almost everything in the same space 😭

[deft stump]

@plucky flax Puppo came in.

Anyone for havoc 24? APAC region.

[unreal bridge]

It seems like the electro kinetic staff does really little dmg what is it used for?

[plucky flax]

It does pretty big damage though. Are you lvl 30?

Are you full charging it?

[unreal bridge]

I am full charging it

[plucky flax]

Are you spamming creeping flame to compliment it?

[unreal bridge]

I’m only lvl 10 LOL

[plucky flax]

There you goXd

The only okay staff at low lvl is burga.

[unreal bridge]

wtf staff is burga

[wicked hornet]

inferno staff

[plucky flax]

Yes.

[prime elk]

inferno is effective but very boring, play fgs which is effective and also very fun

[magic cipher]

You're probably right but I feel like inferno is a lot more effective 😓 at least, from my limited experience

[prime elk]

it's definitely a do-everything staff

which is part of the reason why i find it insufferably boring now lol

[magic cipher]

Inferno just obliterates everything that isn't crushers or bosses

Yeah fair haha

[prime elk]

i found it more fun back when it actually sucked against most elites

[unreal bridge]

Are there builds posted for these staffs?

[magic cipher]

There are builds but you won't be able to do much building until you get higher level

I found my first builds here though

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds?sort=relevant&class=2e785dba-f1bf-4b88-adf4-7e6b40592fca

[wicked hornet]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9dafe0ee-d114-497d-a6df-a7af17352e84/flames-of-havoc

I started with this and it worked but I went with venting instead of bubble

[unreal bridge]

I just wanna follow a tech tree early instead of choosing random ones

[iron fjord]

im bashing my face for cliff hanger

[wicked hornet]

most of the builds I see for inferno staff are similar but they either take bubble or they go with venting shriek.

[magic cipher]

I just followed this this one but it's made for peak end game so you could probably find something better in the mesntime

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9da611bf-3ad5-45ea-adad-c1688476fabe/hechs-havoc-lvl40-purg-bubble-build

Oh yeah was gonna ask, do you guys take Wrath or Shred on the FGS?

I'm leaning towards Wrath

[wicked hornet]

I use shred but I see people use wrath

[magic cipher]

Might depend on whether warp splitting is getting used

[prime elk]

definitely

you can mostly get away without wrath if you warp split and peril edge constantly

otherwise, you should take wrath

[magic cipher]

Makes sense, ty

Guess wrath wouldn't be needed for a scrier's build then

[prime elk]

yeah though make sure to manage your peril when scriers isn't up

[unreal bridge]

Dis for havoc tho I’ll try finding something else

[magic cipher]

Yeah I said as much

[wicked hornet]

👀

[magic cipher]

Still very tempted by EK staff with MK8 FGS but I'd have to level the staff up from 1 😭

[plucky flax]

@deft stump

[deft stump]

Next is hell btw.

Farts everywhere.

Mobian 21st, pus skinned and farts Farts FARTS.

Also refinery delta.

[wind spruce]

Kantrael devils claw psyker

[deft stump]

I don't know what happened, just more panicking.

[plucky flax]

I know. Man was built different.

He was lvl 40 havoc btw.

[wind spruce]

It's more needed with scriers than without, because you can't edge as much with scriers

[plucky flax]

100%

You panic so much you stress me out.

[deft stump]

Panic/Panic.

Look, being the last one up is MASSIVE panic.

That's PANIC.

[wind spruce]

Hectic

[deft stump]

Btw, Untill death best talent Zealot ever has.

Nobody can change my mind.

@plucky flax

Here, have puppo under a bed, yes.

[plucky flax]

Cold floor for pupper.

[deft stump]

She likes to scoot under my bed as well.

[plucky flax]

Long hair doggos in SEA man.

[deft stump]

Naw, that room is warm.

[plucky flax]

I've seen a malamute and huskey about in vietnam.

Samoyed too.

[deft stump]

Finnish spitz. I think my aunt wanted a shiba.

For my cousin.

She ended up with us cos aunt is no longer with us.

Cousin likes freedom to travel more while I'm like a hikikomori.

[deft stump]

Think there is one here, also an Akita.

We stay near a dog park.

The Sammy is Tofu. Carrot likes playing with him lul.

[plucky flax]

I would make some jokes but Vietnamese people do eat dogs.

[deft stump]

I know.

Mom's friend talks about it and she comes from the outskirts.

[wind spruce]

I've eaten dog at a Vietnamese wedding. It was tasty af

[plucky flax]

Was it actually? I've never tried but I would.

[maiden oracle]

Does the flame staff lmb stagger attacking ragers

It’s miserable trying to push a horde of them with fgs

[wind spruce]

Yeah it definitely was. Meat is meat. Why not?

The cuter the better

[plucky flax]

Yes.

[deft stump]

Quell spam yes. Panic spam yes. Normal spam I think.

[plucky flax]

Eaten plenty of horses it's just like beef.

[maiden oracle]

What’s the difference between panic and normal spam

Aren’t you just mashing lmb

[deft stump]

One, you are aiming and spreading the puff. Other is rfljfghuhirghjgrgbruhghuorghuosdtghouhuodghuogdhuohuoghuoghouohurhuo

getawaygetawaygetaway.

And only Tzeentch knows where the flames are actually going.

[radiant frigate]

with the crit damage groaners/walkers deadly accurate infernus no less

[plucky flax]

Instant noodles for lunch

[strong gulch]

I should do this. Good call.

[plucky flax]

But it's not lunch for you.

[strong gulch]

dinner-ish

3:22 am

[deft stump]

Seems about right. Korean instant noodles.

[plucky flax]

Nah I had some vietnamese stuff.

Like vermicelli of sort.

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/ration-mmm-ration-gif-12017569588406528429

[deft stump]

Pho?

[plucky flax]

Miến

[deft stump]

Oh, the glass noodles.

Pretty sure those are more quick cook than instant.

Still gud stuff though. Beef flavour?

[plucky flax]

It's too hot to go outside for food at lunch time.

[plucky flax]

This one here exactly. Beef flavour yeah.

Sweet and sour beef.

[nocturne dust]

oooo

[deft stump]

Ahhh.

[radiant frigate]

rashuns?

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/dandadan-turbo-granny-cat-turbo-granny-eating-a-yakisoba-pan-cat-turbo-granny-turbo-baba-gif-6840348285777604837

[deft stump]

Naw, true rations be like the maggi noodles.

Absolute emergency noodles.

It basically just fills, and nothing more.

[mossy oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/dandadan-turbo-granny-momo-momo-ayase-okarun-gif-536374843845358050

[sullen whale]

https://tenor.com/view/my-honest-reaction-dog-psyx-gif-5294965298200102486

[potent echo]

Toppingless instant noodles

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/dandadan-cat-turbo-granny-maneki-neko-turbo-granny-fortune-cat-turbo-granny-turbo-baba-gif-15896601448619749074

[radiant frigate]

what if cast time noodles

[potent echo]

Is this some pun

[radiant frigate]

what if noodles not instant

[potent echo]

All noodles benefit from toppings

[plucky flax]

Egg is easiest

[radiant frigate]

love eggs

whoever came up with chickens was a genius

[mossy oyster]

Dumplings and egg

[wheat seal]

how to uninstall every mods?

[inland ice]

delete operating system

[sullen whale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1056323424210931856/1303163040664911884/attachment_1.gif

[wheat seal]

[inland ice]

im pretty sure running the file verification will accomplish that tho

[radiant frigate]

go to mods folder
empty mods folder

[plucky flax]

Verified game files

[left basin]

sex

[median sorrel]

Psykers crying moaning throwing up and exploding into confetti when they stub their toe

[plucky flax]

I'm in rio de Janeiro at home @deft stump

Big Jesus statue

[median sorrel]

The emprah 🤩

[deft stump]

Heh. Malibu.

[spice flame]

Merry Christmas siblings

[wheat seal]

not working

[plucky flax]

I think karian can see it up there

[potent echo]

#psyker-class message

[plucky flax]

Oh. That should put a new exe in your game folder and then it should disable all mofs

What mods still enable? I struggle to see why it doesn't work

[plucky flax]

Those folders don't mean anything. The mods folder can be there but mods don't work

[potent echo]

Alternatively delete everything in mod load order text file

Or just toggle darktide mods

[deft stump]

See what?

[plucky flax]

NOTHING

[deft stump]

Sus.

[spice merlin]

Why does it say 'Psionik'? Is that a mod or something?

[nocturne dust]

Non-English

Tis a different language, the titles are also not English

[spice merlin]

Oh, right on. I'm on Xbox anyways and we don't get cool mods like P.C..

[plucky flax]

[upbeat kestrel]

thats Polish

[deft stump]

Also, if so location wise, it's just 360 ping at worst. If you expect me doing less, it's still fine

[upbeat kestrel]

best map for scriers gaze penance would be?

[plucky flax]

I also can enlist some helps from guys I know so it'll be easy havoc 40

[deft stump]

Watch me do 0 damage.

[plucky flax]

Pog

[deft stump]

Since no frags to compensate for ahhhhhhhh.

[upbeat kestrel]

can i get an asnwer

[nocturne dust]

which penance is that

[wind spruce]

Any map. Just go ham with scriers active. It's not a hard penance.

[upbeat kestrel]

40 kill with SC

[nocturne dust]

oh yeah

[upbeat kestrel]

fair

[nocturne dust]

literally no prep required

[radiant frigate]

just scry some more

[plucky flax]

No one has ever gotten 40 kills in 1 gaze

[radiant frigate]

if looks could kill

then it would be easy

[plucky flax]

But no meme go relay station. The start at this part here always have a horde
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1320616762487869511/Desktop_2024.12.23_-_11.57.29.04.mp4?ex=676e3434&is=676ce2b4&hm=f689f45e9d72205889140a1b1a04a27059ddbb264ba2606442fe6ea5e46abdd0&

[nocturne dust]

The vet gets at least 4 when they flashlight the daemonhost at the wrong moment

[upbeat kestrel]

i did it at consigment yard

[plucky flax]

Pog you already got it

[upbeat kestrel]

im trying to help a freind and he is stuck at 35/40

did maleum monstrum

not the empowered psioncs penance

and shield

[nocturne dust]

If they still have trouble with it, go for a long gaze build by maximizing peril generation reduction and passive peril quell sources like battle meditation.

[upbeat kestrel]

i did it with 2h sword

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, that works plenty fine. Generally, most people don't need much of anything and just get the penance by accident if they're using scrier's at all.

[strong gulch]

Especially with the newer quell nodes.

[radiant frigate]

Yes

text to speech and bcob are very effective at what they do

[wheat seal]

[median sorrel]

Doing a bench press every time the seer says the word beloved

[wheat seal]

I reinstall the mods, and I got the "backend error"

[quartz barn]

Did you also update your framework

[plucky flax]

Thanks my boobs are huge now.

[wheat seal]

I just manual downloads

[median sorrel]

[deft stump]

Get stonks?

[quartz barn]

So i guess thats a yes?

[wheat seal]

I guess? lol

[quartz barn]

...

Dmf broke a while ago, so you need the newest version

[wheat seal]

you should have the lastest version if you just manual download

[strong gulch]

You still have to make sure mods are updated weather you do it manually or with a mod manager.

Do you still get the backend error when mods are not patched?

Also to be fair, the game isn't the most stable even without mods.

[wheat seal]

no backend errors when mods are not patched

[quartz barn]

Backend error is from outdated mods tho

[upper sun]

delete all your mods and redown them again

[wheat seal]

that's what I just did

[upper sun]

does the game work without any mods?

[quartz barn]

My guess is that you have a mod that never got updated to a working version past the havoc update

[strong gulch]

Really? I swear I've had that happen even when mods were off.

Bad memory. My bad.

[quartz barn]

Share your mod list

If people here cant figure out which one is broken ask in the modding disc

[strong gulch]

You can check to see if one of your mods has been basically abandoned and the creator moved onto something else or passed on ownership.

Like the old crosshair mod or the old multibind.

[quartz barn]

Ye its probably one of these

Weapon custom still gives the crosshair error too, because that one hasnt been updated yet

Has to do with the special crosshairs for the greatswords afaik

[wheat seal]

v

[median sorrel]

You don’t have a oiledupogryn folder 💔

[wheat seal]

I'll just play without mods I guess

[quartz barn]

Its between chatblock, healthbars and specialgauge

I have everything else

I can try to check in a bit, but you can always narrow it down yourself by disabling them one by one

Actually could be this too

Would seem to make more sense to me

[unborn isle]

is there anyway to remove the keybinds indicators

[plucky flax]

Like on UI?

[wheat seal]

@quartz barn maybe one mods is bug

I reinstall some mods and it's working actually

[unborn isle]

yeah

[wheat seal]

theses one are working rn

[deft stump]

Settings if UI. From memory.

[plucky flax]

Use custom hud to move the elements right to the edge.

If not then hud tweaker to disable the keybind elements.

[unborn isle]

ah ok

[deft stump]

If you mean the guides telling you which button does what.

[plucky flax]

My UI be looking fresh.

If you mean the hotkey buttons like on the right side next to the weapons and blitz.

[deft stump]

I am just blind panic 24/7 anyway.

[unborn isle]

yeah im looking for something like that

its just that my ability has a [F] under it

so it goes thru my stamina bar

[plucky flax]

Yeah that one would be hud tweaker.

[unborn isle]

hud tweaker lets me move stamina bar aswell?

[plucky flax]

No that's custom hud.

[wheat seal]

can you share wich mods are you using pls?

[plucky flax]

I use all the mods.

[wheat seal]

one mods is cleary fucked up

[plucky flax]

(cheater)

[unborn isle]

for the life of me i cant find the stamina one

just so many cubes

[wheat seal]

so, I got the "backend errors" with this one

[plucky flax]

You need dependancies.

Do you have all those 3?

[strong gulch]

So Nut was right. It was weapon customization.

[vernal temple]

I had severe performance issues with the Weapon Customization mod, so decided "nah, I'm okay without it"

[plucky flax]

Yeah it eats a lot of performances.

But the reflex sight is too good.

It used to be okay but he keeps adding stuff and it's honestly so bloated now.

[vernal temple]

ObeseFish should just introduce their own weapon customization

let me put reflex sights on my recon lasgun damnit

if I wanted to play with old school iron sights, I'd just launch Battlefield 1

[deft stump]

Too much work, buy our skins.

[vernal temple]

Yes, oh mighty Bloated Megalodon

[wheat seal]

2

[deft stump]

Is basically what I feel when there's a pay2win sight on a skin lul.

[radiant frigate]

i should probably stop using weapon customization mod

no need to make pretend force greatsword when we have actual force greatsword

[unborn isle]

can someone help me with my ui

i have the correct mods downloaded but im very slow at understanding thing like this

like im changing things in the mod options but its not changing anything

[quartz barn]

For weapon custom you should always get the most recent version from the modding discord instead

Not nexus

Note that theres no version yet where you can edit the 3 new weapons because the guy who manages the mod is sick atm

So trying to edit the fgs for example crashes the game

[zinc phoenix]

I’m so used to iron sights from playing PS for years that I don’t even think of it as an issue 😂

[radiant frigate]

what's PS

[zinc phoenix]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/736220/Squad_44/

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They renamed it to squad 44

But it’s a historical ww2 shooter game where you organize up as squads and then do stuff

They’re pretty anal about authenticity which I love

Much prefer having different games cater to different groups than trying to make one game for all people

[radiant frigate]

respectable

[strong gulch]

If no one answers or is able to help, you can try asking again later. #gameplay-help might also be fruitful.

Listing the mods you are trying to use and what your specific goal is would also be helpful in providing appropriate assistance.

If you keep chatting away, your name will change from grey to the red convicts roll. After you have that, you can post photos.

[azure rapids]

Does the rating on a curio means anything? does it give anything to your overall character dmg?

[radiant frigate]

just affects the base stats

[azure rapids]

but if the base stats are maxed out?

means nothing right?

this dumbass saying my curio is bad (its maxxed)

[radiant frigate]

well, in the case of stamina it may mean something

[azure rapids]

I've played vermintide and the system doesnt transalte

[azure rapids]

its a bound curio

theres no "maxxing" on bounds

[radiant frigate]

then yeah rating on wound curios means nothing

[azure rapids]

that dude kicked me becouse of that

fucking cringe

[radiant frigate]

guessing this is havoc?

[azure rapids]

ye

[radiant frigate]

martyr is an interesting pick

i understand not wanting to take the chance

[azure rapids]

I know the "meta" is 3 toughness curios but i like having one bound

I dont play martyr

im playing psyker rn

[radiant frigate]

weird thing to kick over

[azure rapids]

absolutely

[patent mango]

lmao havoc is crazy

[radiant frigate]

even if i do not think wound curios have a point outside of martyr

[deft stump]

Pugs are just like that.

[azure rapids]

its getting so frustrating to use the party system

i fucking hate it with all my soul

[radiant frigate]

don't you want to do mythic keystones in darktide?

that's okay, me neither!

[deft stump]

Why do you think I asked in like, all the mains for help before just party finder.

[azure rapids]

i want to play havoc. I dont want to deal the fucking party system and toxic players at all

[radiant frigate]

perhaps the real parties we found were the siblings we met along the way

havoc is ok until you run into a match with no defensive ults and 2 zealots with no cleanse (and then your people get picked off one by one due to compounding corruption)

[azure rapids]

playing zealot without cleanse is absurd

[upper sun]

idk i dont enjoy havoc specifically because of that

[radiant frigate]

i like being able to exist without shooters instakilling me unless i turn them off

[upper sun]

like fading light 2 is too stupid

[radiant frigate]

also, zero buld variety unless you like pain

and due to the demotion system people will only want to take meta

[upper sun]

if they removed the toughness reduction and fading light it would be a lot more fun imo

also the demotions

[radiant frigate]

(just like mythic dungeons!!)

[deft stump]

Is why L4G is better than randos. You can ask what ppl are going easily.

[azure rapids]

Im trying to get someone to play with me at L4g

[plucky flax]

What the hell is l4g?

Like lag but leet spelling?

[radiant frigate]

or you go to mission launch and everyone locked in murder builds with no staying power

[radiant frigate]

looking for group

[deft stump]

Looking for group.

It's just SMS shortcuts.

[azure rapids]

https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1045597890472579075

[plucky flax]

Okay what's wrong with typing lfg?

Why l4g?!

[radiant frigate]

idk

[deft stump]

Used to be limited to like 100 characters or you pay double.

[patent mango]

l4g2

[radiant frigate]

is 4 less characters than f

[deft stump]

IDK, ppl used it ages ago.

[upper sun]

the dark ages.......

[plucky flax]

I have never seen people type l4g until now.

[radiant frigate]

left 4 goat 2

[upper sun]

its l33t speak

[plucky flax]

I have seen plenty of 'lfg' tho.

[deft stump]

For sounds like four.

[radiant frigate]

left 4 greatsword??

[upper sun]

more numbers is more better

[patent mango]

true true

[deft stump]

I'm not bringing relic to Havoc. You can't make me. weh.

[radiant frigate]

why not

if it keeps the ragtag band of misfits i am stuck with alive, it is good

[patent mango]

what other weapons does zealot have anyways

[deft stump]

No agile, I panic 10x harder And Chaos can attest to already extreme panicking going on.

[radiant frigate]

emotional support relic makes you panic harder?

interesting

[deft stump]

No, DS4.

Is my emotional support toothpick.

[radiant frigate]

oh i thought you meant relic (ult)

[deft stump]

Oh, that's more Until death.

Best talent.

Don't ask.

[patent mango]

we need a relic in blitz and ranged slots

[radiant frigate]

holy water grenade

[patent mango]

yippie

[deft stump]

Let faith carry the panic when shit happens hard.

[zinc phoenix]

You have wound curios on psyker? that’s generally a red flag

[radiant frigate]

ds4 is a scaredycat pick

[azure rapids]

why is that

Everything else is meta

[deft stump]

I am panicking enough with it, without it....

[radiant frigate]

panickycat

[radiant frigate]

mostly useless

does not help vs corruption as much as health does

does not help vs shooters.. at all, really

[deft stump]

That's old news btw. We all know I'm bad at higher diffs and is trying to cope with my toothpick.

[zinc phoenix]

Because it means you expect to go down a lot and have your team rescue you

[radiant frigate]

and that yeah

plan for VICTORY not FAILURE

😤

[patent mango]

if you use greatsword you'll get used to higher diffs faster (maybe)

since ds4 kinda gives you a lot just for free

[radiant frigate]

if you use greatsword you'll get yippie

[deft stump]

You mean keel over in 5 secs like the run I forgot to take illisi on.

Big swords too slow.

[radiant frigate]

plot twist: beloved is actually a greatsword

[patent mango]

plot of transistor

[ocean totem]

Beloved is nurgle

[radiant frigate]

sounds like a good game

[deft stump]

Fun game, would reccomend, too het though.

[radiant frigate]

oh would you look at that, it's on sale

[ocean totem]

As a psyker player

God I fucking hate psykers

[zinc phoenix]

I don’t make people run “meta” in h40 and I do take ogryn but tbh I do expect people to listen when I host and to build for the role I assign them

[upbeat kestrel]

Female seer is nice

[ocean totem]

Istg everytime I play havoc I get a psyker playing smite who only uses their blitz

And is running shriek yet uses it not against ragers or bulwarks but against fucking gunners

[zinc phoenix]

Havoc is a team play mode and you need to be bringing value for the team

[upbeat kestrel]

dont play havoc

[ocean totem]

I’m at 48 missions out of 50

[patent mango]

underhive wastes gamemode

[ocean totem]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-angry-punho-fechado-de-gif-26104429

[zinc phoenix]

I like havoc, massively superior to aurics

[patent mango]

the further you go into underhive wastes the higher you climb

[upbeat kestrel]

look for some low level havocs

[ocean totem]

NO I ONLY WANNA PLAY 25+

[deft stump]

I let the carries decide. I can just go chorus anyway.

[upbeat kestrel]

aye

[zinc phoenix]

Havoc filters out all the trash players which leads to massively better experiences

[upbeat kestrel]

i dont play havoc and wont

[radiant frigate]

this has not been my experience

[ocean totem]

Lmfao I play chorus flamer zealot

[upbeat kestrel]

its not fun

[zinc phoenix]

Great!

[radiant frigate]

but i am glad it is to your taste

[ocean totem]

^

It’s still shit olayers

[patent mango]

idk i still dont like op gunners

[ocean totem]

Its players who did a malice maelstrom

[patent mango]

3 support abilities every match is silly

[ocean totem]

Fatshark please add a havoc clearance level restriction

I wanna make my parties be clearance level 25 and up only

[zinc phoenix]

The 16-25 levels are kind of awful because that’s where the filtering happens 😂

[ocean totem]

^

[radiant frigate]

do you not want to create a bulletproof tunnel from start to end

[patent mango]

nooooooooooooo

[radiant frigate]

i know! i know! a SHIELD

[ocean totem]

Me too ogryn me too

[radiant frigate]

i will protect you, simpletons

[patent mango]

greatsword

[zinc phoenix]

You doubt have to play that way tbh