psyker-class

[split lance]

i feel like this typing on it

[tulip kettle]

dude your tiny AF

[split lance]

#psyker-class message

[split lance]

facts

[tulip kettle]

imagine being insecure enough to call yourself tren on the internet

[split lance]

but this kb is even smaller

[clear heath]

I have vertex v1's on my main keyboard and invokeys nightshades on my silent one for office

[radiant ice]

Woo short gang

[split lance]

i think ur the insecure one here gang

[radiant ice]

Ooh the Nightshades are nice

[clear heath]

they are very nice

[radiant ice]

Not tried the Vertex ones

[split lance]

youve brought up my name like 3 times now

obsessed much?

^ my actual build

[tulip kettle]

its the persona

its fake

because of the name

you fucked it my guy

[clear heath]

Nice enough when they're good but i had to cherry pick for leaf ping
Fucking jwick leaf ping issues strike once again

[split lance]

what

i dont get it

[hardy tulip]

What is dup stat on fprce greatsword?

[split lance]

mobility

or defence

wait does it have warp res

if it does then that

[hardy tulip]

Yes

[clear heath]

yeah warp res

[tulip kettle]

it is indeed warp res as dump

[hardy tulip]

Ok thanks

[tulip kettle]

mobility is pretty important on FGS

[split lance]

i barely ever have to use melee as psyker

[radiant ice]

Honestly I liked the Kailh Speed Silvers for linear, despite being a cheaper switch

[clear heath]

yeah but you could melee more and be cooler

[split lance]

id rather kill faster

im a speedrunner at heart

so when a mission goes slow its genuinely painful

[hardy tulip]

Still great sword dont have mobilty anyway

[split lance]

yeah that too

[radiant ice]

Defences is important cause dodge limit, distance and sprint cost

[tulip kettle]

it has defences

[radiant ice]

Don’t dump defences on greatsword, you’ll have a bad time

[tulip kettle]

they are essentially the same stat

and yes, i am aware they are not

[clear heath]

I don't think anything actually loses dodge limit anymore from a mobility dump
They happen at 50%

[split lance]

i wasnt gonna say anything

smh sm h

so do u actually wanna do hab dreyko im tryna get zealot penances done

[radiant ice]

Sprint cost is brutal imo on the greatsword at 60%

[split lance]

that end section will be great

[tulip kettle]

its not the number of dodges

its the "distance"

[radiant ice]

It’s both

[tulip kettle]

yes but you will always get max dodges with 60%

[radiant ice]

Distance is your iframes, not physical distance as well

[tulip kettle]

agreed

it combos with anticipation too

[radiant ice]

Anticipation is pretty crap though

[tulip kettle]

apart from on FGS

[clear heath]

yeah but if your tree reaches anticipation, you are an insane person

[tulip kettle]

where its great

[radiant ice]

The one extra dodge can be nice in small cases, but it’s a lot to ask to sink a point into it

[tulip kettle]

its for the extra iframes

so you can activate more easily without getting interrupted

obn FGS

anticipation is right under crit chance and where im putting points on an assail SG DD FGS build

[radiant ice]

So is EE

Which is just better

[tulip kettle]

i take both

[radiant ice]

There’s so much better options though

Psyker has so many great nodes and like 4 absolutely crap ones

[clear heath]

honestly i might consider taking anticipation for my fgs build

but i'd have to drop one with the warp

i don't think it'll be worth

[tulip kettle]

this is what im running and im not saying its a perfect build or anything but its fine

[split lance]

i wasnt gonna say anything

im a left side tree enjoyer

i have no thoughts about right side

[mellow pendant]

is by crack of bone really all that useful?

[split lance]

i dont even see it

[tulip kettle]

i prefer left side with staves

[split lance]

yeah

[tulip kettle]

this is just FGS with a pistol

[split lance]

oh i dont use guns on psyker

[twilit terrace]

left for staves right for swords lets goooo

[clear heath]

wrong reply

[split lance]

i have like 2 builds and thats it that use guns

[lethal lagoon]

"about right side" seems redundant.

[clear heath]

for scriers yes

[lethal lagoon]

[tulip kettle]

same now that theres FGS

before it was 1

[split lance]

im going to touch you in your no no spots

[lethal lagoon]

[tulip kettle]

and yeah i dont run crack of bone except on this build

[split lance]

get in 21 now

[tulip kettle]

in this build its great

[lethal lagoon]

Aren't you going to the gym?

[tulip kettle]

because it helps you keep SG active longer

[split lance]

i cant

for a like an hour or 2

[weary crane]

scab captain vs door? Who wins....

[split lance]

so for now im on my pc

[clear heath]

are you guys gaming?

[tulip kettle]

i hate this cheese

[lethal lagoon]

Oh then Ima do some other stuff, we can play tonight.

[split lance]

i could be gaming

[split lance]

WACK

[tulip kettle]

guy did it 3 times in one havoc yesterday

[split lance]

WACK

do that stuff while im aat the gym

we had an accident this morning so i dont have a car rn

[clear heath]

Give me like 10 min and i could probably play a game

[split lance]

bet

[lethal lagoon]

"bet"

40 year old man tren using zoomer terms smh.

[split lance]

you know how old i am

ur older than me

boomer ahh mfer

[lethal lagoon]

I'm younger at heart.

[clear heath]

damn tren is 40?

[split lance]

no u arent

[lethal lagoon]

[clear heath]

old

[split lance]

i only look 40, im 23

[mellow pendant]

bet was definitely a thing before zoomers

[split lance]

id say its the tren but im natty

[lethal lagoon]

bet

[tulip kettle]

bet wasnt around when i was 23

[split lance]

how long ago was this

[tulip kettle]

an amount of time

[split lance]

do u need a hug fren

[lethal lagoon]

Bet apprently appeared 20 years ago, so not before zoomers.

But definitely not a zoomer term.

[clear heath]

I do not remember it being used that long ago

[lethal lagoon]

[clear heath]

there's no way

[split lance]

ok ok my bad

ill use

wicked

rad

uhhh

[acoustic isle]

SICK

[lethal lagoon]

cool beans

[split lance]

whats good home slice

word

[lethal lagoon]

Alright settle down

I'm not old enough to have used "word"

[split lance]

word?

[lethal lagoon]

word

[split lance]

daaaaaaaaaamn

thats radical bro

[lethal lagoon]

on stack no cap fr fr?

[marble crater]

[split lance]

chillax broseph

you buggin bro

[lethal lagoon]

I'm going to stuff a trident under your sea, brosideon.

[split lance]

broseidon*

[lethal lagoon]

[split lance]

brosideon reads like a sith name

[lethal lagoon]

[split lance]

lookin fresh

[lethal lagoon]

"ReAds lIkE a SiTH nAmE"

[split lance]

BOOYAH

[split lance]

whatever, major loser

[lethal lagoon]

"major loser"

[clear heath]

okay I'm ready @split lance

can probably play 1 or 2 games

[split lance]

[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[82

[split lance]

[clear heath]

I just noticed you can manually demote

[split lance]

Ok I’m booting up the game

[split lance]

I’m going to throw on zealot btw

[clear heath]

We playing havoc?

What's yours at rn?

[split lance]

o h

im 34 rn

but

idk if i can commit to a game that long

at least not rn

[clear heath]

alright we can just play some aurics

[split lance]

yay

[split lance]

vc 21

oh shit

brb

quick

[vapid sparrow]

psyker is so fun i wish psyker players didn't suck

every time i get one on my team they're the loserest loser to ever loser

ogryns and veterans are always the silliest.. zealots r rhe inbetween

psykers r just straightup evildoers

[split lance]

I find that vets are usually the worst

[vapid sparrow]

Fortunate

Psykers are quite the slur-slingers in my experience

[split lance]

Really?

[vapid sparrow]

vets oft say absolutely nothing and run away and die then leave

which is preferable

[split lance]

That’s odd. Even rn I’ve been doing a lot of solo q and I’ve noticed the same

That vets are the worst

[vapid sparrow]

worst as in they're the worst people or the worst players

[lone ravine]

I had a vet complain that someone else wasnt the "ranged specialist" when they were doing basically no dmg and hogging all the ammo

[split lance]

Players

I’m the worst people

But I rarely see shit talk in chat

Unless it’s me

[vapid sparrow]

Dude this is kinda real

I have people fire like one shot every 4 minutes, still steal all the ammo, and get mad at me for not killing things enough as vet

like buddy ive been around 8 shots left for the past 2 hordes and it is entirely your fault

[timber cairn]

hey...if im bugged is this button a good/bad idea?

asking my fellow big brainers

[clear heath]

I had a vet tell me that i should support with CC and they should be the only one attacking in a havoc run
when they did like no damage

[acoustic isle]

Now that is kinda funny given my experience so far

[timber cairn]

^

[timber cairn]

share your build or you're a heretic

[acoustic isle]

Dom's shared it many a time lol one sec

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9dafe0ee-d114-497d-a6df-a7af17352e84/flames-of-havoc

I recall it was this one

[timber cairn]

greatsword not duelling????

[acoustic isle]

(i just personally swapped out Greatsword for dueling myself)

the important thing is your damage is all coming from the staff

the weapon is just there when you have to use it

[timber cairn]

damn that's a nice variant

might try it

mines just the standard...

[jaunty tiger]

Penetration of the soul doesn't work

[timber cairn]

oh rly?

that's a ballache

[rich spindle]

I take it anyway because I do not want slower peril build and less toughness regen

[timber cairn]

it's still better that taking the toughness nerf though

yeah exactly

[timber cairn]

also been on the fence with kinetic deflection

honestly with good positioning cant remember when i've REALLY needed it

[acoustic isle]

when you're running Inferno staff like that

you're critting constantly

it's just a safety net more than anything

[rich spindle]

Inferno staff m1 spam mostly replaces need for kd

[timber cairn]

who m1 spams inferno?

[acoustic isle]

everyone lol

the stun on it is great

[lean mural]

only everyone and their mother

[timber cairn]

tf

[rich spindle]

It perms stuns ragers

[timber cairn]

so is M2

[rich spindle]

Perma

[timber cairn]

m2 doesnt?

[rich spindle]

Like 1 puff will stop a rager in its tracks

M2 doesn’t no

[timber cairn]

omfg

[rich spindle]

Not instantly

[lean mural]

it's honestly a little annoying tbh when someone is clearly either macroing or clicking their finger off when it is not remotely necessary, which is to say "all the time"

[acoustic isle]

Sorry realized i took out deflection myself

[lean mural]

m1spamming into hordes that don't contain even one (1) rager

[timber cairn]

y'know when you're old. And you're scared to ask a question because it'll make you look stupid? Just had that.

[acoustic isle]

here is how mine is in game

[timber cairn]

that's waht i was referring to

[rich spindle]

I’m just glad they know it staggers lol

[timber cairn]

so wait

M1 is purely stagger

dps all comes from m2

aye?

[acoustic isle]

yep basically

[timber cairn]

ok thank god.

[rich spindle]

Damage on m1 is alright too

[acoustic isle]

But yes the dps you saw in that image I posted?

[timber cairn]

yeah but blazing spirit

[acoustic isle]

good 90% was m2

[rich spindle]

Ya

[timber cairn]

blazing spirit is only m2

[rich spindle]

Blazing spirit?

[timber cairn]

blaze away

sorry

[rich spindle]

It stacks on m1 spam too

[acoustic isle]

Blaze away with warp nexus

[timber cairn]

not as effective though

[lean mural]

this shit confuses me tbh

the implication is that "ammo" is the amount of peril remaining before you hit 100%

but as per fatshark, do they explain that? fuck nah, just slap the blessing in there and let 'em figure it out

[acoustic isle]

It's even funnier

Cuz blaze away doesnt seem to care about your peril

Just shoot and get stacks lmao

[timber cairn]

wait

no "one with the warp"???

isnt that like our literal best defensive talent?

[lean mural]

!?!?!

i'm not exactly complaining because it takes a good weapon and makes it bullshit levels of OP which is always funny

but man what i would give for the chonky carcharodont to have a brain cell about interactions like this and the tooltips that are supposed to explain them

[nocturne dust]

not really. I mean, OwtW is good but not that good

[timber cairn]

@acoustic isle surely you'd drop essence harvest for one with the warp given the toughness regen nerf in havoc?

[jaunty tiger]

I don't thinkn its worth the 2 pts to take it if you're gonna get swiss cheesed in half a second in havoc40 by gunners anyway

[nocturne dust]

highly build dependent, but Psyker shouldn't stack TDR

[nocturne dust]

absolutely not

[timber cairn]

educate me

[nocturne dust]

TDR doesn't mean squat in Havoc

[acoustic isle]

The consensus i found is toughness being so useless you might as well not bother

You take so much damage anyways

[nocturne dust]

You will lose your bar of toughness no matter what

[acoustic isle]

You either dont get hit or die

[nocturne dust]

Yep

High havoc is death

[jaunty tiger]

I saw a psyker take a single shotgun shot and go down in 1 hit

Lmao

[timber cairn]

that's an argument against BOTH OWTW and Essence Harvest 😅

[nocturne dust]

Yeah Essence Harvest isn't good either, lol

Like, you still want some toughness regen so you can absorb the occasional melee hit, but Essence Harvest isn't that

also you're missing the actual best defensive talent for Psyker, Kinetic Deflection

[acoustic isle]

Like i said. Talk to dom more. I copied and practiced with it and cleared 40 with it

[nocturne dust]

blocking will save your booty

[acoustic isle]

He could probably explain it better than i could

[nocturne dust]

🤷‍♂️

[split lance]

What’s TDR

[timber cairn]

i talk to him a lot! He diplomatically calls me stupid at least once per convo

[nocturne dust]

toughness damage reduction

[split lance]

Oh

Yes

No matter

[nocturne dust]

You can clear 40 with a lot of builds as long as you have bubbles and bibles 🤷‍♂️

[timber cairn]

did 39 yesterday with 2 psyker bubbles, it was laughably easy

hey, it's nice that bubbles actually are useful now

before they were a bit of a meme before gunners took steroids

[nocturne dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1313803542196391936/elmopsyker.gif

[nocturne dust]

They weren't a meme, they were just like Essence Harvest

not a terrible node, but better choices exist

[agile mural]

😔 pots still borked

[nocturne dust]

PotS will never be unborked

Fatshark only introduces more bugs

not get rid of them

😔

[lean mural]

too real

[clear heath]

one day they'll make pots reduce your damage somehow

make it more bugged

[split lance]

any big mice nerds in her e

or nah

[unkempt patio]

with a smite build what weapon is generally your boss killer?

[clear heath]

probably your melee

[unkempt patio]

I have a greatsword and voidstrike staff, not sure what stats to put on each

[main wyvern]

Chat anyone else still have no idea what the stims do

What the heck is celerity??

[unkempt patio]

so probably put unyielding and carapace on my melee then? and maybe maniac, flak on my ranged? Assuming I need to use it

[lone ravine]

hidden in #veteran-class pins

[clear heath]

idk how voidstrike is built but yeah cara unyielding on fgs is very common yes

[unkempt patio]

alright ty

[nocturne dust]

mice? like the animal or computer peripheral?

[unkempt patio]

I might grab a different ranged weapon, most of the staves are kind of redundant with smite

[nocturne dust]

smite is the redundant part

get rid of it

[unkempt patio]

it's very powerful though

[lone ravine]

smite is useless , i have a hand held taser.

[nocturne dust]

so are staves

if you know how to use them at least

[lean mural]

if you have a Smite Build does that mean you're taking EP? because if you're not mulching hordes with it i don't really think it's a smite build so much as a build that contains smite

[clear heath]

yeah

i wouldn't call something a smite build unless it had ep

would be very weird to call a lot of my builds smite builds when in reality i use it 0-2 times per match

[lean mural]

i do actually like it on a fgs build where i'm not trying to do hyper l33t mlg weave shit with assail

but then those are also not Smite Builds

[clear heath]

i grab it on my fgs build for pathing to psyk aura and and malefic

I only actually use it for like extreme emergencies

[unkempt patio]

yea I only use it with EP

[ripe obsidian]

I have gone into low havoc to work toward the penances. This is a kind and pleasant place, full of enemies who don't kill you with a sneeze

[clear heath]

the fact that fgs has so much stagger on the special kinda overlaps with smite usage too. It's not like rager packs are an issue

[lean mural]

i almost exclusively use the special for clearing clusters of trash when i have 2 charges that would otherwise go to waste

[clear heath]

use it more

it's a very good stagger tool, good for building peril, and combo starter if mk6

[tulip kettle]

turns out the audio fix they supposedly did, did nothing for me and still ONLY FORCE SWORD is bugged, fuck fatshark fuck this game

[lean mural]

hm

i do like the mk6 a lot better

the thing is i don't need help with peril as i'm trying to max scrier's uptime

[clear heath]

okay for scriers probably don't spam it

i'm on a bubble build with it for havoc

The damage on it is actually good enough that you can live without scriers

[lean mural]

yeah, but havoc is hot girl support class shit as far as the eye can see anyway, right

[clear heath]

like this stagger is kinda dumb
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1315913789044035604/fgs_ragers.mp4?ex=6759cc77&is=67587af7&hm=c1fa4a1f6afc5426946311c6b4458b67c572411dddc3a170e0e52f34a19d2995&

[tulip kettle]

push itself is also great

[lean mural]

i find the push very inconsistent. it's fantastic range and strength but it takes so long to come out compared to a force non-great sword

[clear heath]

yeah i love the force sword pushes

[tulip kettle]

most weapons you kinda care less about the push part of the push attack combo but on this both parts feel good i like it

shame its FUCKED for me

not in psykanium

not in solo

only in MM

fuck it

[clear heath]

the range of the pushes really come in handy when you need to get a burster off the team

[unkempt patio]

I use that to horde clear but didn't even realize how much it does stagger, smite does seem redunant, might switch assail with this weapon now

[ripe obsidian]

Question: pros and cons of VI vs VIII?

[clear heath]

Yeah assail is a better combo in general, although being able to path to psykinetic's aura with smite is really nice for the team

and there have been times where smite has genuinely been helpful

usually extreme emergency situations where someone fucked up and cornered themselves and you need to pull them out

[clear heath]

also keep in mind the projectile staggers more than the sword

so you gotta actually have a bit of distance

hitting directly with the sword won't stagger them

[zinc phoenix]

Smite is probably better for meleeker if you have a gun instead of a staff

Than assail

[clear heath]

not usually a problem though
in general the thing makes ragers really easy anyways.
Very long melee attacks, the ragers will just start their combo out of range and just miss you a lot of the time

whoever thought of giving a melee weapon almost 5m of range, bless them

[nocturne dust]

No, it cool

[nocturne dust]

I want a halberd/spear with an even longer attack range

[lean mural]

mk8 horde combo comes out very very fast

mk6 has a fantastic heavy stab that's easily accessible

[nocturne dust]

Give me true ranged melee

[ripe obsidian]

Okay, so VIII is slashy and VI is pokey

[clear heath]

mk8 also has a stab that's slightly stronger than mk6 stab, but comboing into it is worse

[nocturne dust]

both handle everything

[clear heath]

iirc the only thing that combos into mk8 stab is push attack

[nocturne dust]

6 is just significantly better at elites because of the easy access stab in its combo while 8 is easier to use against hordes

but if you plop on wrath, they both handle hordes very easily

[clear heath]

they're both insanely easy to use against hordes

[ripe obsidian]

I'll try VI.

After all, it is me

And I am it

[clear heath]

it's really just, do you want big stab with push attack combo starter, or a less big stab but with an actual attack as a combo starter

[nocturne dust]

I definitely prefer 6 and that seems to be the Psyker consensus. A few prefer 8.

[quartz barn]

pf can be so bad sometimes wth

[ripe obsidian]

Wrath + what? Shred? Riposte?

[quartz barn]

ran a 29 havoc and one guy is just dead for 80% of the run xd

[nocturne dust]

preference

[ripe obsidian]

And Carapace + Flak?

[lean mural]

alright i tried the build referred to as "temu zealot" and my god i hate it.

[nocturne dust]

I use shred, deflector, momentum

[clear heath]

riposte and shred are pretty much equal imo

[nocturne dust]

carapace, unyielding

[ripe obsidian]

Gotcha

[nocturne dust]

FGS already deletes flak really easily

[restive stag]

what even is that build

[radiant frigate]

what's temu zealot indeed

[restive stag]

im afraid

[ripe obsidian]

Unrelated: I have a stream on to get the super awful Twitch drop skins, and this streamer is running Havoc as stealth Zealot with no defensive abilities on his team and is surprised he's losing.

[lean mural]

max uptime on scrier's using all of the CDR psyker has available

[nocturne dust]

lol

[lament sapphire]

Is this what we are using for high level havoc runs? My poor gun psyker has to evolve 😵‍💫

[lean mural]

plus BB+KF

with fgs obvs

[restive stag]

i can see why you'd hate it

no toughness on dodge

its so over...

[lean mural]

exactly

the damage is fantastic

if you're alive to deliver it

[acoustic isle]

Well i cant comment on gun psyker. Most of what i saw was electro staff or infernus like i was using

[ripe obsidian]

That seems fine. It's slightly different than what I use, but it's usable.

[restive stag]

is this the one use case for anticipation?

the answer might shock you

[lean mural]

doesn't even use that

[restive stag]

yeah i knew it wouldnt

[lament sapphire]

I really enjoy my gun psyker but seems like everyone is bringing dps dps dps and pugs need more support

[restive stag]

because the answer is probably not

thats the funny part

voc vets

and also you support your team with ludicrous CDR (i hope)

[nocturne dust]

hey

Fight me, Anticipation actually kinda swanky

[restive stag]

wait am i sleeping on anticipation

oh

[ripe obsidian]

This is my fire staff build. Well, it's not mine, but I stole it and am using it

[restive stag]

i figured it was just one of those

"this actually has a evil hidden caveat and/or doesnt work as stated so its horrible" perks

[clear heath]

I wouldn't know what gun psyker in havoc is like but it sounds rough for ammo usage
Keep in mind the -75% ammo from pickups is a thing in havoc 30

[restive stag]

if its actually good ill pick it up because inferno staff needs it

[nocturne dust]

I mean it's not amazing but neither is Empathic Evasion on anything that can't rapid fire

[lament sapphire]

I forgot that I did this

[nocturne dust]

lmao, take EE for Inferno

[restive stag]

yea hbut melee is legit my only concern

[nocturne dust]

but if you run Voidstrike, anticipation

[ripe obsidian]

DS4 with Agile. Survive.

[restive stag]

inferno is easy to use the issue is just melee enemies sometimes

[restive stag]

yeah i do that but theres like

the very rare case that i dont dodge a mutie properly on a clutch situation

and the entire game just explodes from there

[nocturne dust]

🤷‍♂️ Git gud

[ripe obsidian]

Spam LMB to make the melee enemies go away, then turn around and run to reposition

[nocturne dust]

Use thrust and +maniac on your dueling sword

[restive stag]

ya dont give a kid a bike without training wheels though

[nocturne dust]

you can 1-hit muties

[restive stag]

oh i already do that yeah

[lament sapphire]

Is it okay to bring smite instead of brain rupture? I absolutely despise BR

[restive stag]

i just also am on severe lag

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, sure. Smite is good

[nocturne dust]

sure but you gotta take the training wheels off at some point

[restive stag]

so its very difficult to quickswap onetap and then go back to inferno-ing

that is true

but i fear now mayn ot be that time until i learn to 100% consistently dodgeslide

[nocturne dust]

well you're just screwed then

[ripe obsidian]

BR is useful for Purg to get some extra damage on big targets and to actually have a means to deal with gunners at 40 meters

[restive stag]

because soemtimes in the heat of things i get the timing wrong

[clear heath]

melee should almost never hit you
and even if you get tossed into same insane situation with 30 ragers on you, you can hold out with KD and dodge away

[nocturne dust]

no amount of skill or setup will save you from lag

[restive stag]

nah ive had success (most of the time)

[restive stag]

this is true and happens like 90% of the time

[nocturne dust]

sounds like you're not lagging hard enough then

[restive stag]

theres just that 10% where i mess up my timings by like
3 seconds and lose a third of my hp or more to chip because ragers are fun

[restive stag]

true fatshark should make the servers worse

real havoc modifier

[clear heath]

havoc doesn't let me select my region so sometimes i get sent to a server closer to my friends in europe/asia if i'm playing with them, even though I'm hosting in NA and all our mission boards have NA selected

[restive stag]

now imagine this stacking with an actual lag modifier

that would be so fun

fatshark please make this a thing

[clear heath]

the real havoc modifier is getting sent to europe server

[acoustic isle]

Woe. Moonwalking rager upon yee

[restive stag]

i had a vet in my last lobby that was like the worst teammate ever

they just spam pinged every enemy and i started gaining peril in real life

[clear heath]

probably have tag on lmb

pain

[ripe obsidian]

Bind ping to LMB. Profit.

[restive stag]

it was the most horrible experience of my life i hate vets

the worst part is that it wasnt one vet

no

it was a doublestack of 2 vets doing the same thing

[kindred edge]

You just don't understand their pro gamer strats obviously

[acoustic isle]

I dunno i still worry when i see loner or martyrdom on a zealot lmao

[kindred edge]

skill issue

[restive stag]

so true

at one point 2 people were down

and it felt like i was soloing because one of the vets was just in the corner spam pinging.. something i stopped paying attention

he was fr carrying

[radiant ice]

Doug tapped on it but yeah, the melee is just a Crusher popper if one rushes you basically

Cause it's new, I run the greatsword for that cause fun

But Duelling Sword would def be the more meta choice

[primal plume]

How do I fix this shit? It keeps saying someone whos not in my group isnt in it and it wont let me do my havoc

[clear heath]

did they unlock havoc?

[primal plume]

yes

[patent mango]

are they loading?

[primal plume]

theyre not in my group

[patent mango]

ermmm what the scallop

[primal plume]

and weve been doing havoc since yesterday

it lets us do a duo queue

but adding anyone else blocks us

[marble crater]

Try refreshing the missions, that worked for my group

[primal plume]

Ill lose a rank

id rather not deal with that

[marble crater]

No not that refresh

[primal plume]

what do you mean then

[marble crater]

The mission board and party finder thing

[primal plume]

ive opened and closed the game multiple times

and it wont fix itself

[marble crater]

That's what fixed it for us

[primal plume]

hes not even ingame either

[marble crater]

Then I don't know

[radiant ice]

Hmm yeah I had that bug too

[patent mango]

change terminal region? maybe?

[radiant ice]

What fixed it for me was joining someone else and getting them to kick me XD

[primal plume]

it was a shit map anyway

[radiant ice]

Refreshed me as "Not in a squad"

[lament sapphire]

I feel very useless with this build. How do you kill anything? 😆 fire staff + dueling sword or what weapons do you use?

[lament sapphire]

I read in the patch notes you have to use one of your reset charges to change it

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, Purg and DS4. I can give you the blessings and perks in a bit.

[primal plume]

Why does that even exist

I tried it 2 times with randoms

why did it randomly lock us in

[marble crater]

Because Fatshark

[lean mural]

it's not the weekend why is everyone playing like fucking shit

[radiant ice]

What rank are you playing?

[lean mural]

rank Not Havoc

(auric damnation)

[lament sapphire]

New people returning

[nocturne dust]

all the good players went to Havoc

[radiant ice]

Well that's why, most decent peeps are in high havoc atm

[lean mural]

fuck

i gotta stop playing psyker i think

i get too tilted too fast and i just enter a death spiral where the more tilted i am the worse i play and the less forgiving psyker is of mistakes

literally gaining peril irl lmfao

i just want my stupid little auric storm survivor title without book zealot cheese

i suppose i could also shout vet cheez it

[prime elk]

Book is fair imo. It’s hardly used outside of havoc lol

[nocturne dust]

I mean, you can do it with wound zealot cheese instead

You don't need book

[lean mural]

ew no

martyrdom icky

[upper sun]

WRONG

[nocturne dust]

Wow, wude

I give you a solution and you deny it

[lean mural]

lmao

[upper sun]

someone explain to me why fgs feels faster in meatgrinder than in game?

[lean mural]

lag, probs

[nocturne dust]

It.... doesn't?

[lean mural]

no but frfr i'd like to do it without any cheez

[nocturne dust]

Are you participating in warp shenanigans, Clad?

[nocturne dust]

then perish

[lean mural]

lmao

[clear heath]

golden toughness is unethical

[ripe obsidian]

Okay, on DS4 in Havoc I use Uncanny Strike/Agile and Maniac/Unyielding. I generally try not to be on melee too often. For Purg, I do Nexus/Blaze Away and Flak/Unyielding.

[lean mural]

it is not

but like taking three fucking book zealots is overkill

[nocturne dust]

Only way to no-cheese is by running with no talents, curios, or weapons

[marble crater]

Skill issue

[ripe obsidian]

Damn it

[patent mango]

electricity is cheating turn your computer off

[nocturne dust]

Existing is cheating

[clear heath]

this is why i do not exist

i am a figment of your imagination

[tulip kettle]

SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO ME WHY FGS IS FINE IN PSYKANIUM BUT BUGGED IN GAME

[lean mural]

i'm not saying book zealot is intrinsically cheez u shitters :v

but it lends itself well to cheez

[nocturne dust]

I think drawing an arbitrary line and saying one side of the line equates to cheese is strange when you're trying to acquire a penance that can be frustrating but you do you

[ripe obsidian]

I am sure other people have much more impressive scorelines, but this is the purg game that got me Havoc 40. @lament sapphire Much damage is done.

[lean mural]

yeah no u right ultimately i just... have been playing a lot of book zealot and wanted to switch it up

i got to 4/5 and got absolutely clusterfucked by bad rng + suboptimal team

[clear heath]

i mean i totally get why having a bunch of book zealots just walk through a mission would be a lame way to win

[nocturne dust]

I would recommend getting a squad together then

[lean mural]

hyeah

[ripe obsidian]

I have another havoc 40 one where I had 816 ranged kills and 33 melee kills. Melee is a scary place to be as a psyker.

[lean mural]

my "must use new thing" autism is conflicting with my "must complete existing thing" autism (i want to use bigswords but they require somewhat riskier play than is compatible with no-death auric mael)

[clear heath]

i used bigsword but we had 2 chorus zealots for the true survivor run

[radiant frigate]

i did mine with, uh, ds4 zealot cheese

[ripe obsidian]

I get that. I'm trying out the FGS now, and I do not think I could make it work without getting hit a lot. Relic Sword was fine in mid-30s Havoc, but I did get bonked a lot (plus Zealot can shrug off being hit more)

[lean mural]

it was a very funny way to get the Golden Storm badge or whatever it's called

[ripe obsidian]

Mine was Rashad/Revolver VoC vet

[lean mural]

oh yeah my book zealot also packs ds4

[radiant frigate]

it was charge in my case

[lean mural]

and piety, because what's the point of having book if you're not critting bullshit amounts to spam it

[nocturne dust]

I acquired my ASS with the power of martyrdom and Bleed for the Emperor

[clear heath]

I think you'll get there with some practice. FGS is such a long weapon that it's still fairly safe

[radiant frigate]

ds4 with like 60-70% crits is insane

[clear heath]

near 5 meters of range

[patent mango]

ds4 moment

[marble crater]

All these psykers getting their penance as zealots, bunch of frauds

[clear heath]

you just gotta get used to hitting things at the very end of your max range

[lean mural]

i play everything mang :v

[clear heath]

hey i stayed as psyker

[tulip kettle]

i got mine as psyker by skipping nurgles blessing

wrong reply sorry

[nocturne dust]

I could get it as psyker if I stopped pubbing so much

[tulip kettle]

i was gonna ask you about deflector on fgs in havoc

[clear heath]

i only swap to zealot as a last resort for last attempt or pox gas

[radiant frigate]

sibling license revoked

i perish

[ripe obsidian]

I didn't have a level 30 psyker when I got it. D: I was only playing Zealot and Vet at that point.

[lean mural]

i could also go shield ogryn i suppose

that's actually a very fun build with the snipey stubber

[lament sapphire]

Fair enough. I am just having a bit of a learning curve going back to the inferno staff after so long using the lasgun. Not being able to hit things 1000m away feels like my hands got chopped off.

[radiant ice]

I'm terrible at this game, lucky to get a single kill melee or range

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, gotta rely on teammates to kill high value targets at range. Or brain rupture.

[ripe obsidian]

Hmmmmmmmm

[lament sapphire]

Brain rupture just takes forever 😭

[nocturne dust]

Just slide up to enemies and burn them

[timber cairn]

👍

[nocturne dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1313803542196391936/elmopsyker.gif

[lament sapphire]

That's an epic gif

[ripe obsidian]

tbh yeah, that's another option. Bubble aggressively and charge

[lament sapphire]

That sounds more like me

[nocturne dust]

thank you, I made it mostly myself

[timber cairn]

first try with it on havoc 31

[lament sapphire]

I genuinely laughed, thank you for making it

[timber cairn]

there IS a noticable decrease in survivability but otherwise good

[radiant ice]

Wow that's a trash build

[timber cairn]

he said you shared it lol

[ripe obsidian]

I believe that is the joke

[nocturne dust]

not even a million, 0/10

[timber cairn]

i'll see myself to the ogyrn channel

[upper sun]

can we increase block limit to 500 so i can block everyone who starts rolling steel?

[nocturne dust]

what if they didn't start it and quickplay just did it 😭

Man, rewriting my Inferno guide on steam is such a pain

Steam, why you like this

[clear heath]

I wish there was a way to apply havoc modifiers in psykanium

[upper sun]

someone has to start it for it to be in quickplay 🚬

[nocturne dust]

same

[ripe obsidian]

I need 14 more rolling steel missions for the penance

[nocturne dust]

[upper sun]

not my problem

BLOCKED

[ripe obsidian]

:<

[nocturne dust]

Is that true?

That's not true?

[upper sun]

yes

[nocturne dust]

🤔

[ripe obsidian]

I do not think it is true

[upper sun]

yes it is

[ripe obsidian]

I've gotten the yellow name of First Player when quickplaying before.

[upper sun]

quickplay does not start a mission unless there are zero missions with open players

[nocturne dust]

Exactly

[patent mango]

oh yeah

[upper sun]

then leave

[nocturne dust]

and that can happen

[ripe obsidian]

Maybe you're unlucky

[patent mango]

i wanna try fgs rolling steel

[upper sun]

blocked

[nocturne dust]

and on top of that

[radiant ice]

I think my best total is 180ish

[nocturne dust]

rolling steel can happen

[clear heath]

the whole team could just be quickplaying

[patent mango]

trolled malded even

[upper sun]

i maybe bald

[radiant ice]

No idea, only installed Scoreboard a few days ago

[upper sun]

but u r blocked

[patent mango]

minecraf

[nocturne dust]

don't pay attention to the scores

[ripe obsidian]

180 kills? 180 melee kills?

[nocturne dust]

They calculate weirdly

[patent mango]

scores are goofy sometimes

[radiant ice]

Total Score

[nocturne dust]

Score bad

[radiant ice]

Yeah no idea how they work

[clear heath]

I removed those from my scoreboard

[ripe obsidian]

Oh, I don't care about total score

[clear heath]

very pointless

[radiant ice]

Cause I like to think I was pretty cracked in the game with Six, and it's on my lower end

[nocturne dust]

Scores take your percentage out of the team's for every stat

so if you're the only one who blocked cuz everyone else dodged

you get really high defense score

[radiant ice]

I just don't like scoreboards in general XD

[nocturne dust]

which is dumb

[radiant ice]

Was thinking of removing it again cause it's clutter

[ripe obsidian]

Total score weights actions like hacking way too highly.

It's meaningless

[upper sun]

actually fuck this

im going to sleep

im crashing out bros.......

rolling steel got me crashing out.......

[radiant ice]

Yup feel that, just flopped a Havoc with the easiest modifiers ever

Cause sleepy

[ripe obsidian]

I have removed total score from my scoreboard now, because I didn't realize I could do that

[radiant ice]

2 more attempts but wow

I just don't get the point of scoreboard

[ripe obsidian]

Look. Look upon your yellow numbers.

[radiant ice]

"Hmm yes, I made a big number" XD

[ripe obsidian]

You understand.

[radiant ice]

Get carried bish

[ripe obsidian]

I don't really care about other players. I mostly look at my own numbers to either feel good about myself or beat myself up

[lament sapphire]

Is blazing spirit broken right now

[nocturne dust]

now let's see the no zealot run

[ripe obsidian]

Get choir'd at, psyker freak

[nocturne dust]

[radiant ice]

Now now, lets not be too hasty

[haughty star]

No the warp strike does not apply blazing spirit

[radiant ice]

I just realised 19 melee kills, lmao

My poor greatsword thirsts

[ripe obsidian]

For my 2nd time playing book Zealot, 2nd time playing flamer Zealot, and my first time doing it with DS4 (though that hardly counts, since hundreds of Psyker DS4 matches), I think I did pretty well.

[radiant ice]

Nah you did joking aside, was one of my smoothest Darktide runs ever

Yes English, mhmm

I can type

[ripe obsidian]

Engelsk? Hva er det?

[nocturne dust]

Hey, weird ask but does anyone have like a good video of Chorus from a 3rd perspective (so someone watching the zealot)?

[lament sapphire]

Gotcha thanks

[patent mango]

man by this point i wouldnt be surprised if even the ogryns in my parties had ds

[clear heath]

average psyker melee damage

fatshark gave us new melee weapons only for 99% of psykers to never pull it out

[ripe obsidian]

The kill count isn't really accurate. Scoreboard doesn't know what to do with special enemies like the 21st or tentacles

It also says you killed 129 lesser enemies total.

[radiant ice]

lmao

I guess I got carried

Wait if the kills are inaccurate

And the scores are inaccurate

The fuck is the point in a scoreboard?

[ripe obsidian]

Power DI is better

But harder to screenshot

[nocturne dust]

you can modify it to fix that

[radiant ice]

I use it when needed, to slap down a Crusher XD

[ripe obsidian]

Bequeath upon me this knowledge

[nocturne dust]

I think someone posted a fix for it in the posts of the nexus page

I did it at one point

For ovenproof

[ripe obsidian]

Actually, the 19 melee kills might be accurate, since it says 948 ranged kills as well.

Just doesn't know exactly what you killed. Just knows you killed it.

To quote whichever Vet personality, "I don't have a code for that."

[haughty star]

And made it like twice as good as the zealot one that actually gonna get used

[nocturne dust]

Meleeker needed the help

[ripe obsidian]

I'm slumming around in mid-teens Havoc now. I think I'm gonna save anything 30+ for premade groups I can trust.

[clear heath]

ungrateful psykers getting good melees and never using them

when do they give fgs to every class like they did with dueling sword?

[radiant ice]

I do wanna push to 40 tomorrow

If you're around

Then I can just fire through as low as possible assists for the rest of the penances

[ripe obsidian]

Sure. I'd be happy to play. Even if you make me be Zealot. >:(

I might have more meetings tomorrow, so we'll see

[radiant ice]

You chose Zealot!

Dual psyker is fine, I even have a build specifically for that XD

[ripe obsidian]

Nah, I'm happy to Zealot

I don't love dual psyker in Havoc

[nocturne dust]

I like 2 psyks 2 zeals

[radiant ice]

If we are dualling I prefer dual book

[clear heath]

okay but what about
quad psyker?

[nocturne dust]

is horrible

I mean not really

but book is my crutch

😭

[patent mango]

greatsword!

[ripe obsidian]

I am the emotional support zealot with a nice bedtime story

[radiant ice]

Choir eunuch

Gotta get those high notes

[nocturne dust]

It takes a real man to sing like a woman

[dull gyro]

helo, me and my friend just tried for an hour to do the private game penance. The one that requires you to deal 50%hp with brain burst.

He killed 4 bosses, two of them he dealt 100% dmg with the brain burst. But the penance didn't complete. We were on private game, any ideas what happened?

Bug or something?

Or did we do something wrong

is annoying ngl

[ripe obsidian]

Correct difficulty?

[dull gyro]

yea, heresy

non auric

[ripe obsidian]

Not sure, then

Might be bugged

Check forums

[dull gyro]

but 4 times? 💀

[dull gyro]

I did, didnt help at all

thats why im here

[radiant ice]

Can you use Steam Recording to record the setup and game from his perspective?

[nocturne dust]

Hm, the issue with penances is we can't exactly check them for bugs every update since we can only get them once

[dull gyro]

not really, his PC shits itself with any type of recording software but he was just spamming brainburst on bosses. Two he 100-0'd himself, two he did like 60% dmg then finished off the boss with a brain burst

[radiant ice]

Was it a monstrosity?

Like a Chaos Spawn, Plague Ogryn etc

[dull gyro]

yea, 3x burgle and 1x ogryn

[dull gyro]

We'll try tomorrow too and if nothing works I guess we'll issue a bug report 🤔

[radiant ice]

A support ticket is a decent idea, they are actually quite quick to respond

[nocturne dust]

The only thing I would say is doubly make sure it's a private match at the right difficulty and have him delete a boss with brainburst himself (and nothing else). If that fails, then issue a bug report, yeah.

[dull gyro]

Yup thats what we did

[radiant ice]

Kill the bots first

[dull gyro]

If tomorrow brings no success, then bug report it is

[dull gyro]

premade 4

[radiant ice]

Hrmm that is an odd one

[dull gyro]

We even ALL checked "private game"

to make sure nothing got buggy with it

[nocturne dust]

Try a premade with 3 so you can see if anyone joins

and have the bot get offed

[radiant ice]

Oh!

Private lobbies are broke atm

You can't actually host them

[nocturne dust]

oh are they

[dull gyro]

💀???

[nocturne dust]

[radiant ice]

I forgot about that

But yeah

[nocturne dust]

We're never getting solo mode 💀

[radiant ice]

So you're launching into a public game still

[dull gyro]

oh for real

[muted grove]

how do i add the mod loader if its from gamepass?

[radiant ice]

Try make a private game with just you and him, you'll have someone join

[dull gyro]

Yep thats correct

We just tried

checked private game and we joined to people

FATSHARK COME ONNNNNNNNN

[radiant ice]

They broke on the Hotfix before Havoc was released

[nocturne dust]

RIP, Fatshark programming

wait we did a private match yesterday and nobody joined

we duoed twins tho so probs just nobody playing

[radiant ice]

Not for everyone

But if you have it, you have it

Could also be that

[nocturne dust]

twins really should be in quickplay, but like... optionally in quickplay

[lean mural]

i feel this way about mael. let me opt in to including it in the qp rotation

[radiant ice]

Since we can't pick our specific mission anymore, just remove all selections

Just one big play button

You might get sedition standard, you may get Havoc 40

Who knows?

https://tenor.com/view/roulette-game-gif-6892854051717800041

[ripe obsidian]

I forgot that the FGS push attack costs peril.

Oops.

[radiant ice]

I did that last game too XD

[median mulch]

Does the 50% increases coherence skill node mean other peoples coherence effects will affect you 50% further as well? Or is it only your aura?

[plucky flax]

Your aura

Wait what, so if you're in range of their aura via your own, of course you get their effects

[restive stag]

yeah no its def inconsistent then, because i got flesh wound like
this week

[radiant ice]

I meant as in, if you have the bug, you can’t host private

[restive stag]

yea

[radiant ice]

Not everyone has it

[restive stag]

im agreeing

[radiant ice]

Ohh right

Sorry I misread

[restive stag]

nah dont worry i said it in a kind of round about way so that's fair

[ripe obsidian]

Oh my lord, I am so not used to the FGS dodge after using DS4. Crushers are bullying me

[rich spindle]

Anyone think it’s worth taking the -peril -toughness regen node for havoc

Slower quell is pretty bad in 30s

Been too scaredy cat to try it

[ripe obsidian]

Toughness on quell or toughness on peril gain?

[plucky flax]

I do yeah even on burga

[ripe obsidian]

'Cause toughness on quell is nice

[plucky flax]

You are living in the bubble anyway so toughness regen is still going to be fine

[ripe obsidian]

Or do you mean Empyric Resolve?

[icy wind]

ngl I feel like I don't want to use anything else except bubble shield

[strong gulch]

I've been taking ER, but bubble and yellow toughness has been carrying.

[icy wind]

going in heresy and above without bubble shield feel like death sentence

[rich spindle]

I was considering the pox gas maps where normal bubble is barely enough to keep your toughness up while inside gas

[plucky flax]

Don't be afraid of shooters in damn. They are only scary in havoc

[ripe obsidian]

Shriek is my preference in Auric. Bubble in Havoc.

[rich spindle]

I’ll try er out

[ripe obsidian]

But I am currently using SG FGS in teens Havoc to get penance points, which is fun

[icy wind]

yeah well my party get wipe by a bunch of crackhead with machinegun and I don't have reliable range wep to deal with them

[ripe obsidian]

Until the crusher crushers me

[lone ravine]

shriek is your reliable weapon to deal with them

[plucky flax]

Are you not 30 yet? When you are surge staff is assuredly strong

[icy wind]

what shriek

[plucky flax]

Creeping flames. Apply mass soulblaze in a big ass cone

[icy wind]

I did

but isn't it suppose to be short range

[lone ravine]

its 30 meters

[rich spindle]

It also goes through walls

lol

[icy wind]

think I will just stick with bubble anw

[patent mango]

last one alive
dc
loses instantly

🔥

[plucky flax]

Have you considered having good Internet?

[patent mango]

tell that to fatshark

[plucky flax]

I will my daddy is fs ceo

[patent mango]

yippie

[fiery stratus]

i wonder if fatshark has considered spending more than 4 dollars on dedicated servers

[patent mango]

[lone ravine]

can you tell him ogryn is too weak, he only has 300 hp its too little

[clear heath]

small indie company sorry

[plucky flax]

For sure. Too fat too heavy too slow

[wind spruce]

Coherency is either active with a party member or it's not, and if it's active for one of you it's active for both of you. So, yes, the 50% increased range will let them benefit from your stuff from further away and you benefit from their stuff from further away. Think of it as a circle around you. If they are within your circle you will both be in coherency with each other, even if their circle is smaller and you technically arent inside there's.

[plucky flax]

Actually ogryn is not fat they are muscular af

[lone ravine]

darktide is actually a itch.io project so they dont have money to spend at all

[lone ravine]

it the muscles are real let me suplex plogryns

[fiery stratus]

the irony is peer2peer would probably be better and cheaper

[plucky flax]

Does vt2 have working host migration now?

[fiery stratus]

"working"

it puts you back into the lobby with the host yes lmao

[lone ravine]

heavy quotations on that working

[patent mango]

vt2 had less dcs

[fiery stratus]

ive never gotten it to place me back into the active game, always kicked to the keep

[plucky flax]

I remember host ragequitted in cata a lot

[nocturne dust]

VT2 has local hosting

[median mulch]

Thank you for explaining it!

[lone ravine]

its extremely silly on chaos wastes where you keep all your progress but are just sent back to the start of the current map

[nocturne dust]

Better times

[plucky flax]

So I just started ro host my own games but then my pc was gud so they spawn more enemies

Very sad

[nocturne dust]

Just kill them

[patent mango]

put ants in computer

[fiery stratus]

Yeah hosting is the way to go, randoms are just gonna leave most of the time

[prime elk]

VT2s shitty hosting was one of the reasons I stopped playing it

[fiery stratus]

Thats why you host your own

[nocturne dust]

but Darktide is way worse 😭

[lone ravine]

i havent had any problems with VT hosting

[plucky flax]

Good tip thanks

[prime elk]

Don’t always want to

[lone ravine]

the only problems were if i palyed cross continents

[prime elk]

Heard is better now

[patent mango]

🐜

[haughty star]

I've been having some pretty mediocre connection with darktide lately lol. some annoying microrubberbanding and shit

[prime elk]

Back when I played host migration never worked

Had one host quit at the end of a 40 minute run and lost everything

[nocturne dust]

I haven't been able to get through a single Havoc without DCing for no reason

often more than once

[fiery stratus]

I had one leave on the last area of like a 90 minute chaos wastes

[lone ravine]

i wasnt even given a rejoin message for my lvl 40 havoc mission

[fiery stratus]

I just host myself most of the time now

[lone ravine]

it took me a couple minutes to realize i could even join back through strike team message

[fiery stratus]

ive been dced in darktide with no indication to rejoin

then just get pulled randomly when you get to the mourningstar

[icy wind]

I probly should never use smite ever again xDD

[fiery stratus]

smite is fine as a tool, just dont rely on it

[icy wind]

yeah it's great for CC the hoard or whatever

[haughty star]

Maybe better now after the hotfix?

[icy wind]

but like why CC the goddamn hoard when you can just kill them with staff

[nocturne dust]

we'll see, I haven't been able to play yet

[fiery stratus]

its not really even useful for that

moreso for holding things in sticky situations, reviving, doing events

[tulip kettle]

smite is for safely pushing bursters and allowing your team to complete action

[haughty star]

Smite can kill the fuck outta shit

[tulip kettle]

apparently it can

ive never played with it that way tbh

[fiery stratus]

it can at a snails pace

[haughty star]

sure, you can kill a rager in 1.5 seconds. smite will kill 100 in 5 lol

[tulip kettle]

no no you donnt understand

you just need kinetic flayer

[haughty star]

{Not being literal}

[tulip kettle]

to proc on smite

[wind spruce]

Can someone send me there bubble blaze trauma havoc build pretty please

[nocturne dust]

On Havoc smite is largely a stun tool. It's very dangerous to not run bubble (unless someone else is)

[half turtle]

hmm til you can stand right in front of a bon and stab his back pustule through his face

[haughty star]

i really don't like that word

[nocturne dust]

Mostly the same

Warp Expenditure only because mettle broken 😭

[half turtle]

mettle is broken??

[nocturne dust]

On trauma and inferno, yes

specifically, their RMBs

[half turtle]

oh

[nocturne dust]

lmb still works

[half turtle]

hmm

that explains why my toughness regen isn't feeling that great

im only running mettle and uhh toughness on warp kill

[haughty star]

not neccesarily broken, it just only procs once per attack

[half turtle]

ahh

[nocturne dust]

only for Inferno

It doesn't proc at all on Trauma

[haughty star]

huge l

[nocturne dust]

also, for Inferno it's once per target, not attack

[wind spruce]

Ty

[half turtle]

i assumed it was just because of some bs havoc modifier

[icy wind]

what's the purple upgrade on the left?

[half turtle]

hmm curious, why wildfire?

does it add up to a lot of damage

[haughty star]

to get things started

[nocturne dust]

wat, warp siphon?

[nocturne dust]

Yes, on Blaze Trauma it can help a lot because you have to fish for crits

[half turtle]

i've been dropping wildfire for crystalline will because 85% vent reduction keeps making me pop due to skill issues

[nocturne dust]

[haughty star]

disgusting

[nocturne dust]

I would never drop anything for crystalline will but you do you

[haughty star]

not this tho the crystalline

[half turtle]

yeah i would never run it in an auric but i don't really look at the peril meter when i play

so the 85% vent reduction is messing me up

[haughty star]

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