#psyker-class

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lethal lagoon
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smh

plucky flax
green musk
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i just realized i have the imperial upgrade edition, but i donthave the skins for the characters or weapons

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wtf

lethal lagoon
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Also nier tricks you, it get's you with the gooning, but makes you feel

green musk
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yee

lethal lagoon
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Which skin are you expecting?

green musk
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i want the staff, the aqulia

nocturne dust
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If you check your skins for a staff, it'll look like you have 2 of the same

green musk
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pretty sure

nocturne dust
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but actually 1 is the skin from the pack

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it's very hard to distinguish cuz it's just the staff but black

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vs staff but grey KEKW_ogryn

green musk
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this one?

nocturne dust
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Yep, that's it

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You should have one for each staff, equippable only on that staff

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unlike the mastery skins iirc

green musk
nocturne dust
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Seems correct to me

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I made a similar mistake when I checked skins and wondered why I had two skins that were the same

green musk
nocturne dust
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wdym?

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wat's wrong?

green musk
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its not the right skin

nocturne dust
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Hhhhmmm, you sure?

green musk
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thats a big ass rectangle, not an aqulia

nocturne dust
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Ah, as I said it's per staff iirc

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so you have to use the staff with the same head

lethal lagoon
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Isn't "Dead" void kinda redundent?

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Why not VibrantVoid

green musk
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this skin changes it cmpletely

nocturne dust
lethal lagoon
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Oh, double negative type deal?

nocturne dust
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but I was dumb and didn't realize it just came off as edgy when I made the username way back

nocturne dust
lethal lagoon
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I'm going to have to write you a $20 fine on behalf of the English Council

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Smh

nocturne dust
lethal lagoon
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You wouldn't

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smh

nocturne dust
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It is kinda disappointing that the pack isn't that good, but 🤷‍♂️

green musk
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i paid for this and dont have it

lethal lagoon
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Yeah, you've been hit with the "Fatshark"

nocturne dust
lethal lagoon
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Remember the time when we supported the Beta of a game and they rewarded us by giving us a helmet with the "Beta" on the forehead?

nocturne dust
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That head is the default head of a staff... I forget which one

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The voidblast?

lethal lagoon
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And then xbox players got 14k premium currency instead?

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I remember

nocturne dust
plucky flax
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I enjoyed it

lethal lagoon
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Yeah, you give off that vibe

plucky flax
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Was good console plebs have some free money

lethal lagoon
plucky flax
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I can afford to buy my own premium currency.

lethal lagoon
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It's the principle of the matter.

green musk
plucky flax
nocturne dust
lethal lagoon
nocturne dust
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One is gold and one is silver iirc

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no wait

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the gold one is voidblast

green musk
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so all i paid for was a black handle?

nocturne dust
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yes

lethal lagoon
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You paid for a life lesson you will never forget.

green musk
lethal lagoon
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Just because the core gameplay is great doesn't mean the rest of the game isn't pure shit.

lethal lagoon
nocturne dust
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You can have it in any color you want

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as long as it's black

lethal lagoon
green musk
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honestly, need more skins in the shop. like, at least let me get drip

nocturne dust
lethal lagoon
ripe obsidian
green musk
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or, if i could get help with this, id be very happy

nocturne dust
lethal lagoon
nocturne dust
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oooo

nocturne dust
lethal lagoon
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Too excited

nocturne dust
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😭

lethal lagoon
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But go ahead and use voids friend code and i'll join off him

green musk
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yay...brain brust..

nocturne dust
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Crap. I have to make a brain burst build

lethal lagoon
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Why?

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Oh you also need the penance?

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2 for 1?

nocturne dust
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Yes

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I went on vacation when you guys got it 😔

lethal lagoon
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I'm surprised you never asked us

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You are lazy af

nocturne dust
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I am

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I still don't have the ledge penance KEKW_ogryn

lethal lagoon
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bro I got the ledge penance back when it was 20 enemies

nocturne dust
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I keep going by the pipe on hab dreyko and going "eh, I'll get it next time"

lethal lagoon
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They made it baby mode and people still struggle

green musk
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im going to strike 69

lethal lagoon
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Oh I don't have my mic set up, and it's like 3 am here.

ripe obsidian
lethal lagoon
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I just moved rooms and I now understand why this desk was used as storage

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It's the worst desk I ever used in my lentire life

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I wanna hulk smash it

ripe obsidian
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The desk basks in your hate

lethal lagoon
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It's wobbly ass probably enjoys every second of my suffering.

ripe obsidian
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It delights in your suffering

green musk
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should i just keep everything and swap smite with brain blast?

nocturne dust
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oh lmao

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it didn't pull sage

lethal lagoon
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Yes I made an error

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I invited instead of joined.

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habit

ripe obsidian
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Easiest way to get the penance is do Empowered Psionics, BB with the speedy upgrade, and double shield

green musk
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lmao

nocturne dust
ripe obsidian
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So you cast shield 2x and then cast 10 BB in 5 seconds

lethal lagoon
nocturne dust
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I don't even know which staff to use for this

lethal lagoon
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But we are just going to run a heresy, so it honestly doesn't matter.

green musk
lethal lagoon
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2 shields, the left shield tree.

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You spam 2 shields for 2 kinetic resonence buffs(Brain burst talent)

green musk
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im also lvl 23

lethal lagoon
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Oh lmao, just take whatever with BB.

nocturne dust
ripe obsidian
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I realized today that PowerDI records Kinetic Flayer pops as blitz damage, so I can see exactly how much it's helping (or not)

mystic pike
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dome shield good or bad?

green musk
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i cannot finmd the void

nocturne dust
ripe obsidian
nocturne dust
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I forgot to switch it on gameslantern

lethal lagoon
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@nocturne dust Make the group aagain and I'll join normally.

lethal lagoon
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It didn't work, holy fuck me, Ima just restart. Smh. Literally nothing in this game but teh gameplay.

nocturne dust
green musk
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so its basically just kill something with brain blast? whats a monstrosity?

green musk
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plague ogryn?

nocturne dust
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The ones with the big healthbars at the top of the screen

green musk
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oh

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so this could take a bit

nocturne dust
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Eh, I mean

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It's not too bad

lethal lagoon
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It's just 50% hp, it's fine.

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Just try not to die.

nocturne dust
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You can do it first, and then I'll go for the second one

green musk
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so blast it to 50% then just kill it? or blast it more to count?

mystic pike
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dome shield could use a buff or 2

nocturne dust
lethal lagoon
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Just keep BBing, once we feel like it's at least 60%, we'll kill it.

nocturne dust
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Yeh

green musk
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ight

mystic pike
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what dome shield gets shredded by gunners quite easily correct?

lethal lagoon
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@nocturne dust Make the group again

nocturne dust
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but it's not too bad for a lot of other stuff, so the gunner issue is like whatever

abstract totem
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Is it normal for you guys to put your fatshark id in your name?

nocturne dust
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@green musk you're gonna have to ask to join me again

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since you're not in my recents, lol

modest perch
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No somebody else did it for me

abstract totem
modest perch
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Jk this is actually my phone number (don’t ever call me tho)

lethal lagoon
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Smh this is the internet

nocturne dust
green musk
abstract totem
nocturne dust
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unless you're including that

green musk
abstract totem
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I love night walks

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So relaxing

nocturne dust
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I'd love night walks if they didn't make me paranoid

mystic pike
abstract totem
modest perch
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Night walks are peak comfy unless your neighborhood truly sucks

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I get to wander around empty office parks and the occasional half built hoa monstrosity

strong gulch
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I started putting my fatshark ID in my name recently. I've been in VC more, and it just saves time when people join who aren't you're friends in the game, steam, or whatever.

It is indeed social thing.

radiant frigate
mystic pike
high pulsar
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so random question from a mission I just ran: wtf is the decider that I'm gonna blow up from perils?

Like, usually if I'm at 90+% peril and cast too much, it'll hit 100% and the next cast I'll explode. But just now I triggered the explosion from a trauma secondary cast at 94%, and I'm baffled why that went into explody mode

radiant frigate
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it may not have been 94%

high pulsar
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is that a mod?

radiant frigate
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Yes

high pulsar
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ah yeah i just run default

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is there desync issues with it or something?

radiant frigate
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the vanilla peril display is not 100% accurate

high pulsar
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okay cool, that explains it then

radiant frigate
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but generally you are correct and you only explode from finishing a cast at 100%, exception being brain burst where you're safe if you started the cast below 97%

mystic pike
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i see

radiant frigate
green musk
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mmmm, baldurs gate

pliant tendon
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so i upgraded my new voidblast force staff

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and i figured 5% warp resistance can't be that bad so i just went into a damnation game

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turns out that wasn't a great idea

lethal lagoon
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@nocturne dust I wish the director was like that on Auric maels

nocturne dust
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This experience has renewed my hatred of BB

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lmao

lethal lagoon
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I really wasn't expecting that, I'm half asleep and pretty high

nocturne dust
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and two gimped builds 😭

strong gulch
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T4 can be cursed af.

green musk
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ty guys, that was fun

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GG

lethal lagoon
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Remember when there was a bug where you just got literally infinite spawns on t4?

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Ye np

nocturne dust
strong gulch
lethal lagoon
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Sometimes it would just permenantly trickle spawn poxwalkers

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And it wasn't hard, just annoying af

strong gulch
green musk
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lvl 22 made a huge difference

strong gulch
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Nice!

nocturne dust
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Psyker scales like an earthquake

green musk
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might not go after the pants, cause these are the same just no marking on the plating

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kinda the same thing

lethal lagoon
nocturne dust
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Nice plate positioning for the crotch tho, lmao

lethal lagoon
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Breh if i'm in armor, crotch is getting 2 extra plates.

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You can kill me, but you can't leave me alive like that.

nocturne dust
lethal lagoon
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But the team always gathers on the bubble....

nocturne dust
lethal lagoon
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Don't forget the Ogryn

strong gulch
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Both seem to work

radiant frigate
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i approve

green musk
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i also like the boots

abstract totem
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I hate the bulkier sets

austere warren
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Penal digs, useless psyker visor. Pure swag. Fuck an emperor. Imma blow up after brain magic. 🧠

radiant frigate
plucky flax
austere warren
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Bard is cool

abstract totem
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Oh no we’re talking about dnd

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Or bg3?

austere warren
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I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF THE IMPERIUM

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NOT A BIG FAN

strong gulch
radiant frigate
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we're talking about a musical psyker

radiant frigate
austere warren
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...phonokinetic force stave.

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It's over.

nocturne dust
radiant frigate
abstract totem
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Definitely

radiant frigate
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i believe the cast began somewhere in the middle of that

nocturne dust
radiant frigate
lethal lagoon
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That's just a private game with you and your alt, isn't it.

pliant tendon
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does it make sense to put terrifying barrage on a purgatus staff?

abstract totem
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No

lethal lagoon
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does it make sense to put terrifying barrage in the game?

radiant frigate
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what if terrifying barrage was a passive

lethal lagoon
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It already is

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That's the problem

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Its already the passive effect of every staff

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Just go pew-pew

plucky flax
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Yes just left click balls spam meme.

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Actually don't you ruin games for others.

strong gulch
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I'm tired and now I think of SPAM™️ balls. Like taking a melon baller and just scooping it into a cube of meat.

plucky flax
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Spam is tasty tho ngl

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With bread and fried egg

slate oasis
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do you think empowered psionics or disrupt destiny goes better with assail? can't really decide between the two. dd seems more consistently useful

uncut sinew
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EP better imo

strong gulch
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*fried

heavy bane
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easiest way to kill 40 dudes under scriers ? assail or sword or dump gun ?

slate oasis
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I used a gun to get it. I let a horde cluster up at a bottle neck and just blasted them

lethal lagoon
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PC(perilous combustion) + dump into a mixed group

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I got it before I even knew it was a thing

slate oasis
indigo plank
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Anyone around who could help give my build a once over?

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Finally hit 30 so I did a reset and although it all seems fine on paper, yall know what talents are broken/worthless better than I do

heavy bane
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just send it someone will help eventually

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I would but I'm shit

radiant frigate
indigo plank
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I was thinking of dropping the 6 warp batteries node to pick up Mettle again

upper sun
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you really dont need harvest

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also thats the wrong BB upgrade

indigo plank
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Oh yeah, I'd grabbed it before I had points to put back up top

upper sun
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mettle still is better than warp exp

indigo plank
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And I was also using the BB one for the penance

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Im realizing there's a lotta shit I dont need that I just autofilled lol

upper sun
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wait

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are you doing m1 surge or no?

indigo plank
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Not particularly

upper sun
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idk skip the m1 perks then

radiant frigate
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also, psykinetic's aura over wildfire any day

indigo plank
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I fire them off to help deal with shooters but mostly focus on the elites and specialists

radiant frigate
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also recommend not pairing bb with surge staff

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they very much overlap

upper sun
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at the very least channeled force isnt good

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empyric shock is enough

indigo plank
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I'll admit I really dont use the BB outside of like, snipers

radiant frigate
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it also deal with snipers

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and spread out shootymans

indigo plank
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Would I use the assail kinda like, throw a few of them out then M2 with staff?

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If there was a scab rager pack for example

radiant frigate
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it's a lot like

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be at range, see many things, assail
be at range, see big things, surge

indigo plank
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Gotcha

indigo plank
indigo plank
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I'll take a look, thanks a bundle'

upper sun
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i dont like wildfire on surge

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but i lost every debate i tried to have about it

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so now i run it out of shame

slate oasis
upper sun
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@plucky flax and @lethal lagoon are gaslighting us 100%

indigo plank
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Yeah imo I feel like vampire would proc more, despite lower %

upper sun
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im pretty sure the wilfire damage is from creeping flames not wildfire

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but i cant prove it

lethal lagoon
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You lost 15% damage

upper sun
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perfect timing is non negotiable

radiant frigate
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NEIN
VHAT ABOUT MEIN PERFECT TIMING

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mein timing.. it.. it is.. imperfect...

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😭

radiant frigate
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bigger number more gooderer

slate oasis
upper sun
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waaait a minute....

radiant frigate
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i would do this (evil)

upper sun
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2 charges

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TWO CHARGES

radiant frigate
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two?

upper sun
radiant frigate
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insanity

upper sun
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nooooooooo

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think of the numbers.....

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toughness is one number

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warp charges are more numbers... power, cdr, etc

radiant frigate
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nag nag nag oh very well

lethal lagoon
plucky flax
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Assail warp charges wtf

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And no er

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What staff is this?

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Burga?

strong gulch
slate oasis
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the original question asker was using surge staff

upper sun
plucky flax
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That's a sus tree for surge

radiant frigate
upper sun
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i weep for the poor souls that dont know the feeling of running malefic momentum on illisi.........

upper sun
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40% extra damage 😻

indigo plank
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Zyker gameplay

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I thought about it

plucky flax
upper sun
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i volunteer to afk whatthefuck_heresy

radiant frigate
plucky flax
radiant frigate
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ah i see

plucky flax
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Idk if its up

radiant frigate
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very sneeky

upper sun
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scab melee should be a normal modifier

radiant frigate
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real

upper sun
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why do we have vent purge AND power outage

radiant frigate
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so tired of people shooting me 😤

plucky flax
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You can play your sus build I'll try p sword meme

radiant frigate
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slaughterer psword time

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turn the lights into something that is actually lethal to elites

upper sun
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vets in MY psyker chat........

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i thought this was zealot and psyker chat...........

radiant frigate
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i am not sure where exactly my tendency is these days

plucky flax
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Why did they nerf ogryn folding shovel bm nooooo

radiant frigate
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P O W E R F U L

plucky flax
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I want my multi crushers back

radiant frigate
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namely @remote bloom

plucky flax
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Yeah but no psyker

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It's too powerful

radiant frigate
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yes very true

upper sun
plucky flax
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In like 40 mins though I gotta do chores now

remote bloom
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Are we going to play C-I-VI?

radiant frigate
plucky flax
upper sun
plucky flax
upper sun
upper sun
tight saddle
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I haven't played since a few months after release, what are some good resources to look up if I want to get an idea of how current Psyker plays and what kinds of builds are used for the highest difficulty with the hardest modifiers, or whatever the current hardest content is?

upper sun
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psyker guide is still being updated zealot guide should be done around the 30th

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vet guide is already up same for ogryn

tight saddle
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I'll take a look at it, thank you. Before I dive in, does it basically cover everything I would need to know?

upper sun
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everything from talents to curios to weapons and perks

tight saddle
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Perfect. Are there any content creators that you can recommend so I can look at to see how the gameplay is nowadays?

upper sun
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but tbh most of their builds are a bit too high level builds in the guides are a bit better

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like chocoB for example doesnt a semi mandatory talent on zealot because he can make it work

tight saddle
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I appreciate the help. Time to start reading and watching before I dive back in. I did ask a few questions in #gameplay-help about crafting so I hope I get good answers there as well. How long it took to make different build loadouts killed the game for me, not because I wanted meta or powerful stuff, but even trying to make meme/fun weapon builds and such was such a hassle back then that I stopped bothering. I was able to do high intensity / shock trooper diff5 with white weapons solo or duo, so it wasn't about being strong. It was how dumb the crafting system was that killed the game for me.

plucky flax
upper sun
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not agentchaos

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his builds are ok

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there

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HAPPY?

plucky flax
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UnsanctionedPsyker my saviour

upper sun
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and a lot less resources

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took me ~2-3 mil and 60k plasteel for one hamer on zealot

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now 2mil and 40k plasteel maxed everything for all classes

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just be sure to note sacrificing weapons of the same type to that weapon family gives a lot more crafting xp

upper sun
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twbs

radiant frigate
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i never pick twbs

tight saddle
midnight hull
upper sun
upper sun
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balance now is a lot better than before

tight saddle
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If the game has changed enough for me to like it now I will probably be going hard on it for a bit haha.

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I will of course start on my beloved Psyker first.

tribal echo
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depends on what you didnt like the first time

tight saddle
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I'm excited to see what they've done with Staves and Force weapons.

midnight hull
tribal echo
midnight hull
tribal echo
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oh

upper sun
tight saddle
# tribal echo depends on what you didnt like the first time

It was mostly how excruciatingly painful it was to make loadout builds, even trying to mess around with meme or fun builds took forever to build so the game got stale quickly. The gameplay itself wasn't an issue even if there were a lot of problems at the time. Trying to roll weapons and curious was such a chore that I couldn't be bothered anymore.

tribal echo
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ah yeah, i just played so much it wasnt much of an issue but this system is kinda nice

upper sun
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zealot for me is kinda unplayable without second wind

tight saddle
echo root
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Second Wind and duelist

upper sun
upper sun
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the time we wiped with daveyboy was better KEKW_ogryn

tribal echo
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i just remember the talents by where they are on the tree i have no idea what the names are lmao

plucky flax
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He's kinda sus

upper sun
tight saddle
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how do people even write out talent builds now when giving people builds with how the tree works?

upper sun
tribal echo
plucky flax
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Tru

tribal echo
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lol

plucky flax
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I don't blame teammates on losses only myself.

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I could have played better SadgeCry

upper sun
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based griendset

tight saddle
tribal echo
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i do blame my teammates when they are dogass

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but that is my fault for playing not auric damnation

upper sun
plucky flax
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Auric is pretty chill to clutch

upper sun
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and fucking up the hoard clear combo consistantly

echo root
upper sun
tight saddle
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At the hardest level of content, are you still able to mess around with weaker fun builds or is it hard enough nowadays that there are some stricter build options?

plucky flax
stuck sinew
plucky flax
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Not sure about ws bolter tho

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I also don't run any keystone with bistol

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Duck ws

upper sun
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hes so wholesome 😭 😭

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@plucky flax next time theres a dev stream you should try to join

plucky flax
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Why they'll nerf psyker

upper sun
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nah

nocturne dust
upper sun
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they suck so badly at the game theyll buff everything else

nocturne dust
plucky flax
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I played with a dev in auric before

plucky flax
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Iirc he died once and did okay

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Wasn't super amazing wasn't bad just normal hishock teammate

nocturne dust
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God Emperor protect us when the day a Fatshark dev can solo auric dam comes

plucky flax
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@radiant frigate @remote bloom gaming?

radiant frigate
remote bloom
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gaming

plucky flax
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@upper sun ?

remote bloom
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I have an ideal build for C-I-VI

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:)

late sapphire
plucky flax
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I don't have survivalist aura btw.

radiant frigate
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we good

upper sun
nocturne dust
upper sun
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🙄 noooo u dont get it

late sphinx
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Sitgryn When the level 26 psyker joins damnation auric on rolling steel and we inevitably lose

rigid mortar
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My current max is like 110 how do I further boost it? I have some toughness curios but do I need to pick every toughness node?

plucky flax
upper sun
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sure

plucky flax
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Trapper behind big ogryns too powerful.

upper sun
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inv im ready to kms

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im listening to HH book 6

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its so fire

plucky flax
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YOU ARE LOADING

upper sun
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no im not

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wow

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blame fatshark servers

plucky flax
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Just join in our game in progress.

upper sun
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i dont have either of u

nocturne dust
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you also need maximized toughness curios with +toughness sub perks

ornate hamlet
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ummm, should i switch from illisi to this

nocturne dust
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At the end of the day, not really useful to maximize toughness

nocturne dust
ornate hamlet
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aight

nocturne dust
# rigid mortar Why’s that?

Because defense only goes so far on a glass cannon. Psyker lacks good toughness damage reduction unlike the other classes.

fossil lagoon
nocturne dust
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You would also be giving up the main point of Psyker, dishing out damage.

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Psyker's talents are pretty important.

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Basically, you're trying to improve the worst aspect of the class in the worst way rather than dealing with it in healthier ways the game encourages like learning to dodge/slide/block

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Psykers even get anticipation (more dodge) and kinetic deflection (more block)

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No other class really gets such talents

rigid mortar
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It’s just because of ragers. I can’t really find the Rhythm with them

nocturne dust
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There is no rhythm, generally speaking

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You block and dodge away

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or you run devil's claw and parry them, which works well with kinetic deflection

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I mean, you can melee ragers, but it's not really worth it unless you know what you're doing because it will always be risky and trading blows. It's never worth it if more than one is on top of you outside of parry.

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Psykers rely on ranged weapons heavily

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Every staff can stun ragers

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and guns, you just shoot them KEKW_ogryn

rigid mortar
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So no aggressive pysker lol

nocturne dust
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You can be aggressive, it's just much riskier than other classes

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imo it's not really worth it, which is why I play defensively, but some people have great success with aggressive psyker

rigid mortar
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I need more skill

nocturne dust
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🤷‍♂️ Most of the game is just learning what things actually mean/how they function and the muscle memory to do well.

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You'll do fine with practice.

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and asking questions.

rigid mortar
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Wish psyker had a two handed force sword, because gray knights have some big ones. Yeah I know it’s built for a space marine but it could be shrunk down

radiant frigate
plucky flax
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Maybe I need to play psyker but on a super sus build.

nocturne dust
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Many wish for meleeker's reign to rise

plucky flax
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No soulblaze at all.

nocturne dust
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take my voidstrike build

radiant frigate
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no soulblaze 100%pure honest psyker build

rigid mortar
nocturne dust
plucky flax
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Hmmm yeh with gazer.

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But I need the speed.

nocturne dust
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speed is dumb

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embrace balls

plucky flax
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It's melee assail gun no soulblaze build for melee scab only meme (I will die)

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Power sword has good damage but the low mobility killed me.

nocturne dust
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power sword

radiant frigate
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what was the psword meme

nocturne dust
radiant frigate
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sunder?

nocturne dust
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I do like sunder psword

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dunno if it's a meme tho

radiant frigate
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or was it the standard brumentum pc4

plucky flax
rigid mortar
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Fuck it force shovel

plucky flax
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Dunno if sunder is better

radiant frigate
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i mean obviously the real psword meme is rampage slaughterer

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i was running slaughterer pc

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vetlisi

nocturne dust
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I'm confused by this vet and psyker mixing of terminologies

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slaughterer perilous combustion on power sword

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wat

radiant frigate
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power cycler

nocturne dust
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ah

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but also

upper sun
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CHAIN SHOVEL

upper sun
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SHOVELS FOR EVERY CLASS

nocturne dust
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Why from this to psword

radiant frigate
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power shovel

upper sun
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force blaze power chain shovel

radiant frigate
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with blazing spirit

upper sun
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and thrust

radiant frigate
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bloodthirsty shovel

nocturne dust
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force blaze power heavy chain duelling shovel

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and it will be first dual-wield weapon

upper sun
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60% power on thrust
30% damage and 30% cleave on from the blaze
45% armor pen on pick
hooking on the chain part

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yes

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ill buy cosmetics if they add shovels to psyker and zealot for april fools

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and make the comically unbalanced

radiant frigate
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shovels are only for vet and vet(big)

haughty star
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Hot take i really dislike the fact that they shared all those weapons across classes

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But have been having a blast with zealot on the ds4 with a recon 12 to clean up trash

slate oasis
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I don't think this is a very hot take

haughty star
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Pretty much everyone but psykers love it from what I've seen cuz ds4 is Bae

vernal agate
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Heys guys sorry, do yall have thoughts on like, warp siphon builds?
I am finding it a bit tough to make a pretty well-rounded build with it, considering how talent hungry warp siphon is. I find myself sacrificing either survivability or a talent on my brainburst*

haughty star
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Warp siphon shouldn't be talent hungry anymore

upper sun
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yeah warp siphon is kinda fat

haughty star
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Not as talent hungry anyway. You don't need them all

haughty star
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And what you're tryna achieve with it

slate oasis
vernal agate
plucky flax
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@radiant frigate wanna try unhinged meme psyker melee build for an hour?

nocturne dust
slate oasis
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I also see a lot of people not take either of these, so that frees up a point as well

plucky flax
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I mean I play it.

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You play vet.

radiant frigate
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but i need to know what the unhinged melee psyker build is

plucky flax
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It's not that weird actually.

radiant frigate
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all melee psyker builds are unhinged

nocturne dust
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yes

nocturne dust
nocturne dust
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KF got buffed and fixed

haughty star
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Kinetic flayer is garbage

nocturne dust
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it's not the best thing in the world

haughty star
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One kill every 15 seconds

nocturne dust
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but for a single talent point it's cool

plucky flax
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@radiant frigate

nocturne dust
nocturne dust
vernal agate
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I thought more people take Kinetic resonance

haughty star
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Yeah no kr is the way to go lol

nocturne dust
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I mean you can use KR

radiant frigate
vernal agate
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considering its a little more consistent and youre gonna be spamming venting shriek nyways

radiant frigate
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confirmed unhinged

nocturne dust
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but BB is bad and you don't want to use it in general

plucky flax
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I guess I have assail.

slate oasis
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kinetic flayer only procs on elites and specials now, so it's decent. basically a free kill every 15 seconds

plucky flax
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Hmmm tru I do have assail but I'll be melee 95% of the time

vernal agate
plucky flax
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I changed expanditure for soulstealer.

nocturne dust
haughty star
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Even with only killing specials and elites I'd still say not worth on a siphon build personally

nocturne dust
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So, BB is terrible. Even with every buff imaginable, it's still pretty not great. Investing in direct use is kinda a trap because of this.

haughty star
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Nah bb has its uses lol

nocturne dust
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There are a lot better choices than KR.

plucky flax
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@radiant frigate Wanna play or nah I want to see how it'll go.

nocturne dust
radiant frigate
nocturne dust
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Like, you use BB for the lone sniper on purgatus

haughty star
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It takes away a much more worthwhile point on a ws build

nocturne dust
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and that's it

haughty star
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Or just ya know

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Us it because it's fun

nocturne dust
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I mean yes but we're not talking about preference lmao

plucky flax
haughty star
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If he's using bb were already into the realm of preference lol

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Kf is not worth anything on a ws build. Much too tight

nocturne dust
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Fair but not really. People come here for advice, give them advice.

plucky flax
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Not me dropping warp battery for kf on my burga build. SadgeCry

nocturne dust
haughty star
nocturne dust
vernal agate
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Ok so im using something like this rn

haughty star
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Man you really love posting opinions as objectives lol

nocturne dust
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Bruh

radiant frigate
nocturne dust
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The last 'opinion' turned out to be correct

haughty star
haughty star
nocturne dust
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You just love moving goalposts and talking as if we're for some reason going for preference and vibes over meta when people are asking for advice. People don't ask for advice if they want preference.

plucky flax
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Wtf who is this guy and why is he called this pepesurrender

nocturne dust
haughty star
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Which most people disagreed with anyway

nocturne dust
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They agreed that it was meta

slate oasis
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I use bb other times. like when something is in a super far away awkward spot or when something is fleeing behind a corner (but it doesn't always kill because bb kinda sucks)

nocturne dust
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lmao

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But sure move the goalpost

haughty star
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Cope

nocturne dust
plucky flax
nocturne dust
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You cope

haughty star
nocturne dust
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Uh huh

haughty star
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Just calling you out on your bullshit lol

radiant frigate
nocturne dust
haughty star
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You act like you're someone that's opinion should be objective and you're nobody

nocturne dust
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....because I've done testing and you haven't?

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Literally the last argument I tested

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lmao, stay mad, stay ignorant, stay you

radiant frigate
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so anyway is crit a dump stat

nocturne dust
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I have done 0 testing but read a guide so it must be true!

radiant frigate
vernal agate
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anyways this is my empowered psionics purge staff build

radiant frigate
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or you can get more mobility or cleave targets so you can get into melee faster or hit more targets

vernal agate
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Like, i find the EP version comfier? for some reason? I'm 100% certain its got less damage than warp siphon

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But i find like, the EP version can be a little safer? using BB to deal with specials and elites and using purg to deal with hordes

nocturne dust
vagrant grove
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Psykers are nerds

nocturne dust
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yes

nocturne dust
vernal agate
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I find that horde clear with perfect stats purg staff+venting shriek is still damn good

vernal agate
vernal agate
nocturne dust
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purg can generally deal with everything except crushers by just sliding up to them while charging like some crackhead

vernal agate
radiant frigate
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burga with ER and no warp charges?

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why even go ER then

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especially with shriek

vernal agate
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But i find dealing with specials much harder with pure warp siphon builds 😅

nocturne dust
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I also drop warp battery for KF, because it really is a PC enabler. In fact, I think the build KF is best on is trauma

plucky flax
# vernal agate But i find dealing with specials much harder with pure warp siphon builds 😅

Shuffle around a few talent points compared to the old one. Still a really good reliable build for monsters maelstrom due to the insane burst damage if you have 3 EP stacks.
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vernal agate
plucky flax
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Yeah less damage over all.

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But more monsters damage and can kill specials easier.

nocturne dust
plucky flax
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The ep bb is the monsters damage.

nocturne dust
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Yes, and?

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Dueling sword soulblaze is better monster dps iirc

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because uncanny

plucky flax
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Not against ep bb.

nocturne dust
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Erm loregryn

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Now I have to test this crap

radiant frigate
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unbeliever detected

nocturne dust
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but I'll do that tomorrow

haughty star
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Ep bb is Bae

vernal agate
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Okay I think FULLY CHARGED Ep BB outdamages duelling sword soulblaze

haughty star
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It not a incredibly high bossing damage but it's consistent and safe

nocturne dust
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It is more consistent and safe, yes

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but you kinda sacrifice the whole build for it, so it's ew

haughty star
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Yeah we know you don't like bb lol

nocturne dust
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EP being such a massive buff for BB, only stacking on elites, and only doing anything for blitzes but not doing enough to make them general weapons is such a problem

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(in my opinion)

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(because it's dumb design)

haughty star
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I don't think blitz should be a main source of dps tbh

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At all

nocturne dust
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like, the keystone is kinda for making it a main weapon

nocturne dust
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why no psykinetics?

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I would drop the purple peril gen reduction node for psykinetics

vernal agate
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Oops

nocturne dust
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You don't need that much peril gen reduction on purgatus

vernal agate
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Yeah i was gonna drop the purple peril gen thing

nocturne dust
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ER is already troublesome

vernal agate
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I think it also doesnt really matter tbh

nocturne dust
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ER is plenty.

vernal agate
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with 60% warp resistence, ER and quell cancelling

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I can manage most of the time

nocturne dust
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I mean I don't quell cancel so I don't know how that changes things, I will be honest.

nocturne dust
vernal agate
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Psykinetics is like

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must take

nocturne dust
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It's almost there.

vernal agate
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Ok i guess my main concern was like

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is 6 warp charges really necessary

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i've been playing psyker a lot, but mostly just been autopiloting and not really putting much thought into what goes into my builds so

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got 700+ hours on darktide, but realised that I really dont put much thought into skill trees🤣

nocturne dust
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I mean, shriek spam feels better with 6 warp charges, but I do dump it these days in favor of other stuff

haughty star
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I like the damage increase from the extra 2 charges personally and ability becomes more spammable

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I wish POTS actually worked even tho it's not that huge of a buff

nocturne dust
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Yeah, I mean between it and kinetic flayer, KF wins by a fairly small margin so you can get rid of KF in favor of warp battery if you prefer quite easily.

nocturne dust
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My source is my imagination thumbsup_ogryn

slate oasis
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best perks for surge staff?

nocturne dust
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if you're rmb spamming

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I don't do lmb spam

slate oasis
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yeah I meant for rmb

nocturne dust
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then flak and a preference

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notably +elite lets surge oneshot one of the gunners iirc, while maniac and unyielding of course help with their respective enemies

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If I'm not mistaken, I think I use unyielding

haughty star
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Yeah i like unyielding too cuz it helps with most of the things I use surge for lol

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Also does OKAY boss damage with it as well

weary crane
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what does burn intensity actually mean, and why does it decrease lol

nocturne dust
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It was very nice to use it with maniac though, it just wasn't quite enough for ogryns/bosses

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for me

haughty star
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Yeah I don't mind zapping a rwger an extra time or two its the bulwark that are fucking annoying for me

nocturne dust
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for direct damage

weary crane
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Oh the the time is the delay

nocturne dust
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Not sure, I didn't check that specifically

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It probably is, but you never know with Fatshark, lol

haughty star
# vernal agate something like this?

For burgatus id drop kinetic deflection personally. It's super strong but sometimes is worth sacrificing in terms of extra damage but here's one with and one without

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On the one on the left you could prolly keep flayer or use that one as kind of a shuffle perk

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In the past bm was recommended for burgatus but now that er is a thing it's kinda Hella useless

nocturne dust
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I recommend the cooldown aura over the elite damage aura

haughty star
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You can also spec over for any one of the effects I just find the extra elite damage more useful on anything that runs pa and ws

nocturne dust
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Fair.

haughty star
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How does the light attack hits against secondary work with burgatus?

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Haven't tested that yet as I barely play with that wheezy ol thing

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Empiric shock

haughty star
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Like what does it register as hits for light

nocturne dust
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Uh, for Empyric Shock it doesn't

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It broke

haughty star
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Wait what?

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For just burgatus or in general?

nocturne dust
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Purgatus specifically

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Fatshark coded it so it works for generic staff lmbs

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You may notice that purgatus does not have a generic staff lmb

haughty star
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Big fucking oof

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Could be Hella strong for burg

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2/5 new perks DOA

nocturne dust
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Eh, could be useful yeah but RIP

haughty star
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Fatshark moment

nocturne dust
haughty star
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I've been sacrificing kd for it in my surge build and using my macro to spool it up

nocturne dust
nocturne dust
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How dare you sacrifice KD 😤

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That's literally heresy and I'm calling the commissar

haughty star
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In my defense it's crazy bossing boost

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And works on bulwark shield from what I've noticed

nocturne dust
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I still hate that they're encouraging lmbs

haughty star
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I think it's better than having a useless mechanic personally

nocturne dust
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I dun wan to use generic white goo 😭

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It wasn't useless

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You would use it to get rid of a few things like lone shooters or faraway snipers

haughty star
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Eh kinda. Only thing it was really good at was trash shooters or snipers

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Yeah what you said lol

nocturne dust
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Exactly

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That is use

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Good enough for me

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And it's super boring, so I don't want more of it

haughty star
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Its fun imo. The mixing of the two makes the experience more engaging imo

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More engaging than right right right right right right imo

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Now there's a left or five in there

weary crane
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quell is the dump stat imo if you have 30% talent

nocturne dust
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Meh, nah, the fun in rmb spam is controlling the charge and aiming

nocturne dust
haughty star
nocturne dust
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Inferno is the staff that wants to dump warp res most KEKW_ogryn

weary crane
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i only quell like 2 or 3 times per fight and it takes like 0.5 seconds to quell to 75% (which i dont want to go under)

haughty star
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Quell is so exponential

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Res is not

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Especially with ER

weary crane
#

on paper quell is better yeah

nocturne dust
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Inferno has trouble generating peril for shriek with ER

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you absolutely want to dump warp res

haughty star
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More peril more better

weary crane
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i dont use shriek, and i have 36% warp res in high peril

nocturne dust
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and even if you don't have ER, warp res is still a dump

haughty star
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Dump peril faster more better. More survivability, more control over edging, just more better

nocturne dust
weary crane
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max peril isnt higher control over edging tho

nocturne dust
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Quell speed is just more valuable than warp res.

haughty star
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Yeah quell is pretty much cut and dry better especially using er

weary crane
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higher warp res = less peril produced which can help prevent overloading
max quell + 30% speed means even tapping quall reduces it by too much

haughty star
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But if you prefer res that's fine

weary crane
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its hard to stay above 75% with max quell and 30%

haughty star
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That's the point. You just have to tap with quell

nocturne dust
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Firstly, dirty edgers, smh my head

nocturne dust
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Secondly, yes, you quell very shortly if you want to edge

prisma igloo
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Literally

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Edging death the entire time as psyker

nocturne dust
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Me overquelling all the time chadgryn

haughty star
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Yeah my buddy was watching me play surge last night and said it was utter fucking lunacy

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He's like are you literally this close to death all the time?

prisma igloo
weary crane
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when I edge to 100% peril without shriek or crystalline staregryn

haughty star
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We don't talk about crystalline here

prisma igloo
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Keep peril high and don't die

nocturne dust
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which should happen

weary crane
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gotta keep that +20 damage +33% tough res +20% crit chance

nocturne dust
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Fatshark plz

prisma igloo
haughty star
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That's lunacy

prisma igloo
haughty star
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Especially considering i personally can't afford to run a wound on psyker I'd be dying all the time

nocturne dust
nocturne dust
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Martyr Psyker

weary crane
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this would make purga insane

steep estuary
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Is it better to have +15 toughness or +5% toughness damage reduction?

haughty star
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Oh shit

prisma igloo
haughty star
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In other news the same macro i use for lmb spam works for fully auto assail lol

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Can dump all 10 darts in less than 2 seconds lmao

prisma igloo
nocturne dust
haughty star
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Its funny

prisma igloo
haughty star
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And fast peril gen to edgemaxxx

nocturne dust
haughty star
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Yee ill post a clip l8r it's pretty disturbing lol

lyric hatch
nocturne dust
haughty star
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Its good for what I use assail for tho which is just a quick trash cleanup

nocturne dust
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Because Psyker has low toughness and tiny tdr.

steep estuary
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I've heard arguments for keeping low toughness or high toughness

nocturne dust
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I mean, there's an argument for low toughness

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it's a bad one

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but it exists

haughty star
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In what world would you want low toughness on a build that only works for a toughness capacitor

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Its the only way psyker could be remotely called tanky

prisma igloo
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Yeh high toughness is better over literally anything else.

haughty star
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I do +3 but I'm a bitch

nocturne dust
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Coherency regen doesn't scale, but like... that doesn't matter. Either you take the +90% curio perks which invalidates the scaling issue, or you don't and it's useless which invalidates the scaling issue

prisma igloo
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"i wanna see bar filled quick" ig

nocturne dust
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Coherency regen is the only toughness regen that doesn't scale

steep estuary
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I'm just tryna find a comfy spot for my last point