Literally just to preference
#psyker-class
split lance
shadow wigeon
hi what are the stats i need to aim to get for demios blaze???
brazen rampart
I think he meant Blaze because the force swords are called "Blaze force swords."
shadow wigeon
oh xd sorry ya
upper sun
ah
shadow wigeon
my bad
brazen rampart
hi what are the stats i need to aim to get for demios blaze???
The deimos model is the best for single target. You want to dump warp resistance and you want something like flak, maniac, uncanny strike, and riposte.
upper sun
low warp resist or mobility
quartz barn
warp nexus blazing spirit illisi my beloved
brazen rampart
warp nexus blazing spirit illisi my beloved
Why on earth would you use warp nexus when bloodthirsty is right there?
shadow wigeon
so warp res shuold be 60/70 the rest aim to 80?
brazen rampart
ripo is bad dont
Riposte is not bad, what are you talking about?
It's literally free chances to proc EE.
quartz barn
ripo is inconsistent
upper sun
ripo is the crit chance one right?
brazen rampart
Yeah.
upper sun
then no
brazen rampart
Crazy.
upper sun
precog is guaranteed damage
upper sun
yes
quartz barn
no this is not a joke...
brazen rampart
So basically, Clad is insane because precog has an uptime of 2s. Riposte will help far more with proccing empathetic evasion, which is a talent that considers you dodging against ranged attacks for 1s on crits.
Because, yknow, riposte lasts 6 seconds.
upper sun
🙄
patent mango
riposte is firee (on ds)
quartz barn
ngl i dont like either
brazen rampart
I mean, that's fair.
lethal lagoon
quartz barn
because they dont always proc on my dodges zzz
brazen rampart
You can always run deflector.
patent mango
i just go uncanny slaughterer idk
brazen rampart
last time i checked they were talking about loli stuff
Zealout slander orchestrated by the shadow #veteran-class government.
Remember, all vets are femboys.
shadow wigeon
? is it ok or its better to swap the mobility with warp
quartz barn
personal pref tbh
brazen rampart
It's better to dump warp resistance for a deimos, but you can change the model of that sword to illisi and have good special spam with that.
quartz barn
low warp resist also depends on how used you are to edging and what you're comfortable with / playstyle you prefer
generally better tho
quartz barn
tl dr pick whatever tf and tune to your liking
sweet beacon
imagine ever using the special on warp swords
nocturne dust
deflect is crutch too
You're a crutch 
split lance
I’ll pull out my best build
split lance
I tried LMB surge surge
latent mauve
Just play my ds5 build clad
split lance
It’s just smite
split lance
I need a good combat knife build
latent mauve
Still optimizing my gun pick to try even less
latent mauve
It’s a trauma build on zealot essentially
Press dodge w and light attack
That’s it
nocturne dust
ds5 lights that good?
latent mauve
Yeah
upper sun
Just play my ds5 build clad
no
nocturne dust
Huh, I'll have to try that sometime
latent mauve
sweet beacon
ds5
split lance
Ngl
sweet beacon
not a real weapon i'm afraid
split lance
I’m eating
upper sun
I’m eating
are you one of those people that takes 30 minutes to finish a meal?
latent mauve
radiant frigate
hello siblings i think precog is silly
latent mauve
Riposte uncanny
upper sun
what ranged?
split lance
are you one of those people that takes 30 minutes to finish a meal?
Yes and no
radiant frigate
2s duration very smelly
upper sun
WHAT
latent mauve
Yeah
lethal lagoon
Press dodge w and light attack
latent mauve
Just point and click
lethal lagoon
are you one of those people that takes 30 minutes to finish a meal?
I take about 2-3 minutes to eat half and then 4 hours to eat the rest.
upper sun
u over eat
latent mauve
2 toughness 1 stam
upper sun
you dont gotta tell me about gunner resist
lethal lagoon
Just pick the one with the least damage
upper sun
real
lethal lagoon
I think one says "torrent"
That should be it
whichever of the ones is "different"
upper sun
Dumdum and the power blessing
didnt ask 
going flak crit
gonna restart im ready in like 4 min
split lance
Ok I’m on
marsh briar
Does the Blessing Surge works on secondary fire of the zappy staff ?
split lance
Does the Blessing Surge works on secondary fire of the zappy staff ?
warframe
nerd detected
@lethal lagoon @upper sun vc 68
upper sun
cant do vc and hear game audio
sweet beacon
hear my silky smooth voice instead
upper sun
I only have ears for the judge sorry
torpid portal
bolt pistol?
plucky flax
bolt pistol?
Yes it's OP.
upper sun
its mid
torpid portal
what would you recommend it being for a god tier roll
plucky flax
what would you recommend it being for a god tier roll
I'm not 100% on what's the best. I use flak maniac surgical and the bleed blessing.
mossy oyster
erm askshually
plucky flax
plucky flax
what about the 80s
Everything 80s mobility 60.
zinc phoenix
I'm not 100% on what's the best. I use flak maniac surgical and the bleed blessi...
not a fan of the "close shot go boom" blessing?
its pretty fun, idk if its actually good LOL
plucky flax
No it doesn't really do anything. I usually whip it out for quick specials snipe.
The bleed sometimes kill trapper.
So that's nice.
nocturne dust
Yes it's OP.
Lying is bad 
zinc phoenix
vet channel lore is that close range boom blessing makes grenades more gooder
so i run that on my boom boom vet, but i like the idea of bleed for psyker, thats clever
bleak maple
Is penetrating flames good or would blaze away be better?
plucky flax
so i run that on my boom boom vet, but i like the idea of bleed for psyker, that...
If you throw assail and switch to bistol with bleed blessing assails also bleed.
plucky flax
But I normally use assail with melee weaving.
zinc phoenix
yeah dropping a couple shards and then gettin to stabbin so you get headshots from assail while you stab is nice
nocturne dust
this is what bolt pistol is good for
discount javelin 😔
broken carbon
Is penetrating flames good or would blaze away be better?
blaze away is BIS, then either penetrating flames or nexus, (personally i think penetrating flames is better but others disagree)
nocturne dust
I use PF and I think it's worse than nexus. 
broken carbon
an extra 2-3 stacks from a crit just seems relatively useless
nocturne dust
Stacking stacks quicker good, stacks exponential in damage
bleak maple
showstopper
nocturne dust
*showstopper*
meme
broken carbon
once an enemy is at max stacks it’s useless, and anything that’ll need max stacks is either an ogryn, mauler, or boss
pulsar hazel
hello pookies how are you today
broken carbon
and those enemies all take more damage from pen flames
nocturne dust
once an enemy is at max stacks it’s useless, and anything that’ll need max stack...
sure, but the only thing that survives Blaze Away that long is bosses and crushers, and the latter won't care regardless
even Bulwarks and Reapers just die
hollow current
hello siblings i think precog is silly
nocturne dust
i find crits on flames useless tbh
Not unfair, staff is strong anyway
nocturne dust
look up tanner lindberg
mossy oyster
name his favorite weapon then
mossy oyster
plucky flax
Some guy told me tanner had footage of me smiting. That was how I learn who tanner was.
mossy oyster
cant be the worst introduction at least
nocturne dust
Imagine making youtube videos
mossy oyster
coulda been worse
nocturne dust
coulda been worse
My introduction was some guy coming in and telling me gunner resist bad because tanner said so
nocturne dust
It could be a lot cooler
latent mauve
i never said infernus was bad...
vast scroll
just leveling, which aura upgrade should i pick?
upper sun
cooldown
flint pawn
I wanted to actually try my Carapace Purgatus meme from a couple days ago, but my internet went out until now. NOW I can sabotage my Auric group 🙂
strong gulch
i never said infernus was bad...
They're talking about tanner. -clad
edit: lol
nocturne dust
i never said infernus was bad...
We talking about tanner. Or at least, I was.
latent mauve
Fuck you clad
strong gulch
Wanna darktide
yeah
nocturne dust
I wanted to actually try my Carapace Purgatus meme from a couple days ago, but m...
solo mode when
strong gulch
We're in 68
tren sad
lethal lagoon
flint pawn
solo mode when
You're right. I need to be able to solo Auric Maelstrom with my Carapace Purgatus IMMEDIATELY
nocturne dust
I was talking about offline solo mode but aight 
torpid portal
im looking for a group maybe for auric, but im bad
plucky flax
Can't be worse than that fraud Unsanctioned.
broken carbon
You want to play?
i am at work
and when i get home i need 2 grind god of war
so
maybe
plucky flax
I am going to bed soon.
plucky flax
im looking for a group maybe for auric, but im bad
I can play 1 or 2 games though show you bistol supremecy.
broken carbon
Not unfair, staff is strong anyway <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
true
watching a level 50 psyker out damage me with a purg staff by doing nothing but hold down m1
mossy oyster
its funny
its literally the guy singing payphone vs the guy sweating and breaking his keyboard
video
nocturne dust
watching a level 50 psyker out damage me with a purg staff by doing nothing but ...
The way the God Emperor intended
mossy oyster
anytime meow talks about her experience with pub soykers
its always them doing 1 thing and getting top dmg
lmfao
literally this video
mossy oyster
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iLXHA2ftX4fYOnvPI/d1337z65...
still trapped in that time
when we called it love
but even the sun sets
in paradise
broken carbon
broken carbon
hate purg psyker
lyric burrow
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iLXKQ8E7vsdSssXee/d1337UXw...
this end event could probably use some help
broken carbon
hate gun lugger
mossy oyster
mossy oyster
this end event could probably use some help
this end event sucks if its not a maelstrom
broken carbon
this end event could probably use some help
yah it really needs to have hordes coming from all sides at once
mossy oyster
even then
lyric burrow
you simply cannot be pressured
mossy oyster
spawns arent really doing anything
nocturne dust
hate gun lugger
just try harder, smh my head
broken carbon
that final event should be like a last stand
broken carbon
**sometimes** hordes will spawn behind you
so rarely
mossy oyster
but when im playing that map im always covering that
broken carbon
it’s usually a sole shotgunner
broken carbon
yeah
mossy oyster
it’s usually a sole shotgunner
they either spam 10 ragers or 10 shotgunners
when the events over
on those catwalks
lmfao
so random
lyric burrow
and then the ragers/shotgunners on the way out
mossy oyster
and so ass
broken carbon
real !
lyric burrow
but they dont get a chance to do much
late yew
So there is apparently some op left click build?\
both of these guys used it
and massively outdamaged me despite me having purgatrus
lyric burrow
yeah the left click is p strong now although theres also a macro that lets you get dumb DPS
lyric burrow
which really pushes it over the edge
mossy oyster
its very crinfe
if you ever manage to out dps plasma/psword vet or LMB soyker though
its always funny
lyric burrow
i always outdamage plasma vets because they leave instantly upon going down
nocturne dust
if you ever manage to out dps plasma/psword vet or LMB soyker though
idk at that point it's just target acquisition and running ahead
mossy oyster
so they can LMB even harder
lyric burrow
yeah if your aggro frontline enough you can usually at least keep up
cause your getting LOS first
if they plasma vet is really good its rough though
mossy oyster
if I wanted to sit back and watch everyone kill everything id be a shieldgryn or a bubble soyker
lyric burrow
cause theyll know the spawns ETC
mossy oyster
if they plasma vet is really good its rough though
bolter vet
new comp
(besides when bulwarks show up)
nocturne dust
if I wanted to sit back and watch everyone kill everything id be a shieldgryn or...
hello, it's me, a bubble soyker
lyric burrow
bolter vet is very strong
mossy oyster
bolter vet pretty nasty tho
nocturne dust
Do all the work for me peons
late yew
yeah the left click is p strong now although theres also a macro that lets you g...
so what is the build?
lyric burrow
this was a recent bolter vet game i had
broken carbon
an illegal macro
nocturne dust
e z
broken carbon
i would like 2 clarify
broken carbon
left side of the tree, spam lmb with surge
u can also do SG for it
nocturne dust
yeah if you want the cracked dps, you have to use a quell cancel macro beyond human limits
late yew
Ah
so that's what probably that guy used
his attack speed indeed seemed a bit too fast
nocturne dust
I mean if you manually do it you can still get pretty high dps
but RIP your fingies
lyric burrow
adds character
jovial juniper
if I wanted to sit back and watch everyone kill everything id be a shieldgryn or...
Me with the 10% crit chance to allies ON ZEALOT
late yew
hello, it's me, a bubble soyker
why british
near drift
why british
radiant frigate
Me with the 10% crit chance to allies ON ZEALOT
what if 4 zealots all run that
do we all get 45% crit just because
narrow herald
imagine being a zealot and having a bubble trauma psyker babysit your ass
late yew
you will need to suck me off to ever run some team-oriented builds
narrow herald
tbh tho, the build is designed to babysit pubs
since ur cooldown is soo low u cna lityerally create a path of bubbles to the objective
radiant frigate
not so much advancing and rather just building fortified positions ever closer to the objective
near drift
Trauma gets more juice the worse the teammates are, you want those dummy thick hordes up close and grouped for the boom
jovial juniper
what if 4 zealots all run that
Good question
I'll ask zealot chat later
radiant frigate
Good question
I'll ask zealot chat later
i am guessing it doesn't stack
but if it did... it would be funny
narrow herald
like yeah abilities like bubble and book are trash in isolation, but what about to manipulate your team in preventing them to not play like shit:
vast scroll
leveling up... venting shriek or telekine shield?
pulsar hazel
Trauma gets more juice the worse the teammates are, you want those dummy thick h...
Trauma carries maelstorms honestlyyy its a very good carry weapon
radiant frigate
shriek
vast scroll
ty
pulsar hazel
leveling up... venting shriek or telekine shield?
with the flame damage
not the poopy other one
nocturne dust
leveling up... venting shriek or telekine shield?
shriek with creeping flames is meta, bubble might be nicer for a beginner
vast scroll
wait... deals damage... or applies soulblaze?
nocturne dust
soulblaze
vast scroll
kk
nocturne dust
the damage one sucks
pulsar hazel
wait... deals damage... or applies soulblaze?
soulblaze is really strong for deleting hordes, the damage one has damage falloff meaning it does fuckall
nocturne dust
jovial juniper
i am guessing it doesn't stack
Oh yeah
It doesn't stack 
upper sun
im out btw
radiant frigate
clad why does the shark look so concerned
upper sun
constipated
radiant frigate
Oh yeah
It doesn't stack <:Sitgryn:1016269420638765107>
strong gulch
poo still in
split lance
im out btw
i miss you
pulsar hazel
So since bistol bleed applies to assail, does bistol bleed apply to soulblaze or nah
radiant frigate
So since bistol bleed applies to assail, does bistol bleed apply to soulblaze or...
it what
radiant frigate
split lance
radiant frigate
does this mean.. they also apply burn if you throw and swap to something with infernus?
pulsar hazel
I hate assail but I'm definitely gonna try this out lol
radiant frigate
if crit ofc
pulsar hazel
does this mean.. they also apply burn if you throw and swap to something with in...
idek brah
I feel like the bistol thing is a bug
fresh reef
Making a pizza rn
radiant frigate
i thought they removed assail interacting with such things
pulsar hazel
Making a pizza rn
What kind
fresh reef
Oh my god it smells so good and it's only half cooked
nocturne dust
i thought they removed assail interacting with such things
They tried
pulsar hazel
i thought they removed assail interacting with such things
I mean the bistol blessing is new so
nocturne dust
radiant frigate
yet zealot knife gets to keep the benefit of uncanny if such a weapon is equipped
or the funky manstopper thing
mossy oyster
Making a pizza rn
pulsar hazel
tbh zealots throwing knife needs all the help it can get
fresh reef
A peek at the peak
spice veldt
wh
narrow herald
why is this chat turning into zealot chat smh my head
nocturne dust
some zealots swear by throwing knives
pulsar hazel
mostly joking i love knife
spice veldt
they're in the god damn walls
pulsar hazel
some zealots swear by throwing knives
I use them on some builds, great for special killing if you just rebind your blitz key to a mouse button
narrow herald
idk chief im a zealot coinsurer
nocturne dust
I use them on some builds, great for special killing if you just rebind your bli...
and also hit a headshot
fresh reef
coinsurer
narrow herald
that is the worst spelling of that word
its an actual word
nocturne dust
which, by the time that is true I could've just shot the special with a gun
clear heath
I just throwing knife to swap to flamer faster
pulsar hazel
and also hit a headshot
Not a problem for me, but the average zealot main uses trackpad while huffing galaxy gas so I understand
nocturne dust
I only use throwing knives for the flamer
narrow herald
next you'll tell me your build is a real one too
no i swear
clear heath
if it didn't save me points on tree, i wouldn't use throwing knife at all
nocturne dust
Yeah, flame grenade my beloved
fresh reef
its an actual word
pulsar hazel
I'm very cracked with tknives but I don't use them by choice lol
fresh reef
Thanks, learned something new today
narrow herald
see told yall
nocturne dust
Screw pathing
fresh reef
Pathing by fat
narrow herald
tknives have the best pathing by fat
dorn u need to understand, these are psyker players, they are incapable of aiming
nocturne dust
True
latent mauve
dorn u need to understand, these are ***psyker*** players, they are incapable of...
I cannot aim either
latent mauve
pulsar hazel
tknives have the best pathing by fat
It's pretty good design tbh. The worst blitz behind some of the best talents. Besides the fact every zealot build goes for the resist death talent it's a very good talent tree
nocturne dust
It's pretty good design tbh. The worst blitz behind some of the best talents. Be...
idk, I think stun grenades are pretty meh
latent mauve
the zealot tree is badly designed
fresh reef
dorn u need to understand, these are ***psyker*** players, they are incapable of...
"The sights on this thing are off, I can feel it."
"Oh don't worry about it. I don't really aim and I'm still enjoying myself!"
pulsar hazel
the zealot tree is badly designed
I mean it's still better than modern vets I'm gonna be real
latent mauve
Vet is what I want on zealot :kek
fresh reef
Vet at least has the peak of grenade pathing
clear heath
Zealot tree has too much mandatory pathing that ends up with you making less decisions
like until death
pulsar hazel
I love having 2 useless auras and 1 useless blitz and only running voice of command fuck yesss
narrow herald
like until death
clear heath
or this bs
nocturne dust
I love having 2 useless auras and 1 useless blitz and only running voice of comm...
Vet auras aren't that bad
clear heath
you'll see people pathing like that for every build
pulsar hazel
Vet auras aren't that bad
fire team never makes a difference let's be fr
sprint aura is meme
clear heath
zealot builds are just a bunch of horizontal lines that tax your builds
You have like 10 points worth of real decisions to make in reality
pulsar hazel
scavenger is good for melee vet
and every other vet
Even after the numerous nerfs
narrow herald
or this bs
piety zealot spotted 
bitter cape
Vet auras aren't that bad
with 2 vets on a team, sprint aura isn't really a meme
nocturne dust
zealot builds are just a bunch of horizontal lines that tax your builds
You have...
that's 10 points too many
upper sun
Vet is what I want on zealot :kek
iron will(until death)+weapon spec(momentum) on every build?
pulsar hazel
zealot builds are just a bunch of horizontal lines that tax your builds
You have...
At least every zealot build reaches a keystone
Half of vet builds can't say that
😭
latent mauve
>iron will(until death)+weapon spec(momentum) on every build?
yes
pulsar hazel
reject new build system, return to 6 columns with 3 real options
Hard to believe the game used to be like that
zinc phoenix
it was the better system tbh
nocturne dust
Martyr will always be my favorite keystone for zealot
zinc phoenix
ok, enjoy your many fake choices
nocturne dust
it was the better system tbh
How dare you
pulsar hazel
wym fake choices 😭
upper sun
the every vet build
pulsar hazel
ogryn build variety used to not exist
nocturne dust
ok, enjoy your many fake choices
People argue about skill tree choices all day here, wtf you mean
pulsar hazel
>the every vet build
not taking charismatic hurts me so much
zinc phoenix
People argue about skill tree choices all day here, wtf you mean
most of which boil down to like two or three picks that everyone always argues over. meanwhile there are two actual psyker builds
upper sun
not taking charismatic hurts me so much
then hurt
zinc phoenix
the entire left side with fire, or a right side with some minor variance
clear heath
>the every vet build
true tbh
nocturne dust
most of which boil down to like two or three picks that everyone always argues o...
KD, KF, Warp Battery, Souldrinker dip, etc.
pulsar hazel
most of which boil down to like two or three picks that everyone always argues o...
How are you this nostalgia baited bro we had 1 blitz 1 ability 1 aura for every class
nocturne dust
There's a lot of little preference things
zinc phoenix
How are you this nostalgia baited bro we had 1 blitz 1 ability 1 aura for every ...
i'm fine with the new abilities
nocturne dust
Heck, I take bubble
zinc phoenix
but the rest of the tree is a total waste of time
nocturne dust
the entire left side with fire, or a right side with some minor variance
the minor variance is the point
zinc phoenix
meh, i'd rather a small number of major choices than a large number of tiny ones
split lance
theres no way there should be this much range
nocturne dust
center psyker could get... something tho
zinc phoenix
theres no way there should be this much range
whats funny is you can side dodge at the right moment and never be touched even if youre under the crusher hammer
nocturne dust
meh, i'd rather a small number of major choices than a large number of tiny ones
Why not both?
split lance
whats funny is you can side dodge at the right moment and never be touched even ...
i know
zinc phoenix
i do the same thing tho
split lance
i just really thought i was far enough away
nocturne dust
whats funny is you can side dodge at the right moment and never be touched even ...
iframes go bbbbrrrrrrr
zinc phoenix
"i am far back, i am safe to back dod... oh"
split lance
bc i know they can like slide forward but this one felt like a lot
strong gulch
@split lance @lethal lagoon Bonbon spawning after we died.
upper sun
theres no way there should be this much range
u dodged too early
its hit scan has nothing to do with range
nocturne dust
its hit scan has nothing to do with range
which is dumb btw
late yew
now try to guess my build here
zinc phoenix
for players too
vast scroll
how do you get that score board?
upper sun
players dont have hitscan
nocturne dust
Crushers should have a bigger hammer and get their stupid tracking deleted
upper sun
we have some magnitism
zinc phoenix
"some"
zinc phoenix
revolver be like
jovial juniper
how do you get that score board?
Mods
strong gulch
how do you get that score board?
It's a mod with ovenproof plugins.
nocturne dust
Bolter/bistol gets reverse tracking
upper sun
nah its perfect now
radiant frigate
theres no way there should be this much range
well you were sliding not dodging at that point
Death
nocturne dust
nah its perfect now
No it still breaks sometimes, lol
zinc phoenix
the one weapon that really ought to be hitscan is the lasguns
split lance
well you were sliding not dodging at that point
yes but the point is it felt far enough away to not be an issue
upper sun
No it still breaks sometimes, lol
just dont shoot near DH
radiant frigate
the one weapon that really ought to be hitscan is the lasguns
..are they not?
nocturne dust
just dont shoot near DH
or kill the DH
zinc phoenix
..are they not?
im pretty sure no because its way easier to hit headshots with the revolver imo
spice veldt
they are hitscan
zinc phoenix
but i am also much regarded
spice veldt
revolver just has bullet magnetism
radiant frigate
drain bamage..
upper sun
magnatise DEEZ
zinc phoenix
ok so players do have hitscan AND the revolver is comical
upper sun
but seriously we have bullet magnetism due to lag compensation
it has a place in the game
but
zinc phoenix
a lot of games get by with way less
upper sun
some weapons are a bit
radiant frigate
ok so players do have hitscan AND the revolver is comical
revolver is probably chambered in God's chosen caliber and therefore gets to be special
upper sun
a lot of games get by with way less
how many games are you expected to kill ~3k enemies?
and each of which can kill you
late yew
Is it bullet magnetism, or just giant hitbox?
upper sun
you cant compare cod per say to darktide
spice veldt
Is it bullet magnetism, or just giant hitbox?
idk the technical details of how it's implemented
zinc phoenix
how many games are you expected to kill ~3k enemies?
maybe if there werent all of these player assist features we wouldnt need to spawn computer crushing numbers of enemies to challenge players
upper sun
and that's the plasmagun and revolver
you havent played since before crafting update
spice veldt
when i say bullet magnetism, i mean it in the vein of how people in destiny 2 uses the term
radiant frigate
i would like less crusher packs but i would like individual crushers to be more considerable
zinc phoenix
its just annoying when there are literally so many enemies on screen they compress into an undifferentiated blob of baddies
upper sun
its just annoying when there are literally so many enemies on screen they compre...
no
more enemies
radiant frigate
yes
radiant frigate
more enemies
more enemies for the trappers to net you through
radiant frigate
more enemies to push you around and deny your movement
upper sun
the double or tripple trappers tho
zinc phoenix
If you always be wigglin trapper will never hit the net because it compensates for movement 🤔
radiant frigate
dogs literally just walking around and you get booped around
upper sun
double gunner stun
late yew
its just annoying when there are literally so many enemies on screen they compre...
Player lower difficulty ya weakling
nocturne dust
maybe if there werent all of these player assist features we wouldnt need to spa...
the crushing number of enemies is literally the draw of a horde game
radiant frigate
Player lower difficulty ya weakling
no
nocturne dust
upper sun
i enjoy crusher packs
spice veldt
the crushing number of enemies is literally the draw of a horde game
surely there's a limit though when you can have more interesting individual enemies instead of having to spam a bunch of enemies
upper sun
no
nocturne dust
surely there's a limit though when you can have more interesting individual enem...
no
upper sun
there really isnt
upper sun
give me 39 ragers
spice veldt
like, the game has to spam rager packs because you otherwise just delete them
zinc phoenix
the crushing number of enemies is literally the draw of a horde game
Left 4 Dead managed to challenge people as a horde game without turning the game into an undifferentiated technicolor blob 🤷♀️
spice veldt
and the existence of abilities that scale off of elite kills and whatnot become ridiculous
upper sun
ok grandpa lets get you to your xp machine with l4d
upper sun
and the existence of abilities that scale off of elite kills and whatnot become ...
bruh
clear heath
I think we're just too invincible for a low amount of enemies to be threatening
There has to be enough shit to block movement or we can't die
upper sun
you're arguing now to reduce elites
spice veldt
poxwalkers and common chaff already fulfill that role though
zinc phoenix
I think we're just too invincible for a low amount of enemies to be threatening
...
Bring player power back down 🤷♀️
upper sun
poxwalkers and common chaff already fulfill that role though
you remind me a lot of a scottish femboy from the shetlands
who would just argue about everything
just because he liked to argue
nocturne dust
Left 4 Dead managed to challenge people as a horde game without turning the game...
This ain't L4D. I prefer it this way. Rejects and the Technicolor Blob
upper sun
he didnt even believe half the shit he said
clear heath
Bring player power back down 🤷♀️
nerf voc and watch the vets reviewbomb the game again
spice veldt
but i do believe about what i'm saying
dusk void
I think we're just too invincible for a low amount of enemies to be threatening
...
Just play an auric maelstrom. There’s a lot of shit and fuckery for you
zinc phoenix
This ain't L4D. I prefer it this way. Rejects and the Technicolor Blob <:chadgry...
You know what I mean tho, everyone has seen it
spice veldt
i feel like i've been pretty genuine and upfront about my stance about enemy count and their individual strength?
upper sun
but i do believe about what i'm saying
IM AKTUALLY I SAID YOU REMIND ME OF HIM NOT THAT YOU ARE HIM
this is what you sound like btw
nocturne dust
You know what I mean tho, everyone has seen it
If you prefer L4D, you can go play L4D
clear heath
Just play an auric maelstrom. There’s a lot of shit and fuckery for you
yeah and it all comes from enemies blocking your movement
We're simply too strong to die from anything other than enemy spam
zinc phoenix
If you prefer L4D, you can go play L4D
I just won’t spend money on this game while continuing to use its resources, thereby slowly contributing to its death
prime elk
nerf voc and watch the vets reviewbomb the game again
Don’t you dare touch my crutch
clear heath
like realistically what kills 2 voc vets other than having so many enemies they can't walk?
nocturne dust
I just won’t spend money on this game while continuing to use its resources, the...
Yes yes, definitely.
spice veldt
who would just argue about everything
and on the other hand, i'd say you're the one who likes to argue for the sake of throwing arguments, even if they make no sense #psyker-class message
clear heath
they just went too damn far with how strong we are
zinc phoenix
like realistically what kills 2 voc vets other than having so many enemies they ...
One of them shoots a barrel while trying to be the first to kill a poxwalker and flings both to their death
This happens comically often on that swagger map
nocturne dust
like realistically what kills 2 voc vets other than having so many enemies they ...
A dozen trappers strung out so that they can't be knocked down all at once
Which has actually happened in a game, lmao
clear heath
we're so strong that we have to list different flavours of absolute bullshit to kill people
zinc phoenix
Player power bloat has gone way too far
dusk void
yeah and it all comes from enemies blocking your movement
We're simply too stron...
Or just do what I do. Do engineering in the day so that I don’t have enough brain cells to kill heretics at night. That’s a fun way to die
radiant frigate
like, the game *has* to spam rager packs because you otherwise just delete them
woe, morbillion ragers be upon ye
spice veldt
yeah, people complain about elite spam and i feel like the natural and normal solution is to simply reduce number and increase individual enemy difficulty
it also doesn't help that players have tools that disproportionately scale against enemy density and count
frigid sparrow
How do I make achlys work?
zinc phoenix
How do I make achlys work?
Step one is asking in the right channel
nocturne dust
Player power bloat has gone way too far
I mean, I don't disagree
spice veldt
even without accounting for weapons/talents/etc., dodges have melee pseudo-iframes and straight up i-frames against ranged enemies
frigid sparrow
Step one is asking in the right channel
wdym?
zinc phoenix
Psykers do not have achlys
frigid sparrow
The Achlys combat axe MKVIII?
clear heath
i thought we had all the combat axes
zinc phoenix
🤔 I mixed it with the gun
clear heath
lol
zinc phoenix
Anyway just use Rashad
frigid sparrow
It's okay, discord search keeps trying to get me to go into ogryn
nocturne dust
🤔 I mixed it with the gun
renaming incoming
frigid sparrow
Apparently it's a stubber too? idk
zinc phoenix
Yes
nocturne dust
Achlys renamed to Voidblam
clear heath
everyone just uses rashad so no one thinks about the achlys axe
frigid sparrow
Anyway just use Rashad
I can try it out, what blessings am I aiming for? I got all of the tier 4 ones
nocturne dust
Brutal Momentum
zinc phoenix
I can try it out, what blessings am I aiming for? I got all of the tier 4 ones
Brutal momentum + like headtaker or something
nocturne dust
and the power one which I think is headtaker
You also wanted unarmored and.... flak? for perks
zinc phoenix
im pretty sure its just flak/maniac like everything else
nocturne dust
Unarmored is to 1-hit a number of things
zinc phoenix
meh so much incidental damage + headtaker does its thing
nocturne dust
Specials
zinc phoenix
arent they mostly maniac?
nocturne dust
iirc hounds need unarmored
zinc phoenix
its been a while since i tested their dicks
nocturne dust
hounds are infested
that's also unarmored, no?
upper sun
pretty sure theyre all infested
nocturne dust
🤔
clear heath
pretty sure people go flak unarmored on caxe for like bruiser one shots
Not sure if psyker can even hit those breakpoints
nocturne dust
Been a while since I used axe but I know unarmored was a thing on it
clear heath
but doesn't unarmored apply to infested
no there's a separate infested perk
spice veldt
unarmoured is primarily for scab bruisers, if you can't get enough damage elsewhere to hit that bp
nocturne dust
Ah
clear heath
just make sure your combat axe can at least one shot both bruiser types with like, reasonable buffs (headtaker stacked up is fine)
late yew
Are helfire lasguns same thing as recon?
nocturne dust
no
jovial juniper
Infested? More like disgustingly_resilient
radiant frigate
Are helfire lasguns same thing as recon?
do you mean helbore
if so very much not the same thing
zinc phoenix
Are helfire lasguns same thing as recon?
theyre a lasgun that you can hold down to shoot an extra damaging shot
idk they had a moment in the sun but theyre kinda mid rn
radiant frigate
charge up for big pew pew
zinc phoenix
recon lasgun is very strong automatic lasgun that shoots much las
radiant frigate
idk they had a moment in the sun but theyre kinda mid rn
they're still kind of funny in the way that you can trigger and benefit from both parts of agile engagement
zinc phoenix
that is funny
radiant frigate
they also clown on ragers
since the bayonet shank just staggers and then murders them
zinc phoenix
also they can kinda teleport when doing an attack
jovial juniper
It's funny when they start attacking but there's an obstacle on the way, so they slide backwards
late yew
So plasma-psword vet is stupidest strong build?
nocturne dust
It feels like they listened to all the complaints of crusher tracking nonsense and decided ragers should get it too
Hhhhmmmm
zinc phoenix
when did kasrkin get added to 40k?
nocturne dust
I feel like stupidest strong build is EP smite with shriek and a boss killer for secondary
late yew
I outdamged plasma-psword vet pretty heftily, despite the fact that i died at one point so he had some free damage
jovial juniper
Helguns?
late yew
I used recon + ds
nocturne dust
There are bad pp vets
zinc phoenix
I outdamged plasma-psword vet pretty heftily, despite the fact that i died at on...
his melee performance is 2x or more yours
nocturne dust
In fact, I'd say it's a lot easier to find a bad pp vet than a good one, just like smytkers
radiant frigate
I outdamged plasma-psword vet pretty heftily, despite the fact that i died at on...
is this plasma psword vet in the room with us right now
gods does anyone melee anymore
late yew
his melee performance is 2x or more yours
... and?
late yew
Because it is stupid?
late yew
I would have no way to deal with crushers
late yew
i can use recon for literally any target aside from crushers
late yew
So why even have psword
nocturne dust
I would have no way to deal with crushers
psword is a way to deal with crushers
zinc phoenix
its a really short range way
late yew
psword, which twoshots crushers, is no way to deal with crushers?
it does not?
zinc phoenix
which is sucky
brazen rampart
it does not?
You have to push attack first.
nocturne dust
psword, which twoshots crushers, is no way to deal with crushers?
it can also cleave a bunch of them at a time
brazen rampart
Push attack headshot and then 1 light swipe does an entire crusher's hp.
late yew
Also brittleness light recon build is funny for killing crushers
late yew
Push attack headshot and then 1 light swipe does an entire crusher's hp.
With what blessings?
I am going to check right now
brazen rampart
I am going to check right now
Need at least power cycler.
radiant frigate
voila, twoshot
jovial juniper
With power sword 6
nocturne dust
Push attack headshot and then 1 light swipe does an entire crusher's hp.
You can also go for a heavy swipe build and 3-shot a group lol
late yew
also does it matter which psword?
brazen rampart
Mk6 only.
jovial juniper
Yes Power sword 6
radiant frigate
the old model sweepy thing is not as good
brazen rampart
I think the PA on mk3 is a sweep, so it doesn't work.
jovial juniper
Pretty sure it's a vertical attack on the mk3
late yew
push-attack + light
prime elk
You did it wrong or you don’t have the right setup
jovial juniper
Bring it Down+Precision Strikes+ Superiority
prime elk
Push attack + light attack to the head will kill if you have the right setup
late yew
i don't remember names of any talents
brazen rampart
You need a collection of damage talents that you can comfortably grab anyway, or your power sword doesn't meet stat requirements.
brazen rampart
i don't remember names of any talents
Ogryn damage, weakspot damage, elite damage talents.
radiant frigate
go get 'em
late yew
Indeed, now it 2-shots
loud reef
I'm stuck on the forge world boss myself
loud reef
The big spider Archmagos
plucky flax
You don't need ogryn damage if you have desperado.
That talenti s really good for melee.
10% crit chance and 25% finesse.
radiant frigate
desperado is cool and good
should grab all the talents and make big numbers with sword
10% melee node while we're at it
prime elk
Chad right side vs virgin left side of vet tree
radiant frigate
exec stance 🤢
late yew
and then there is middle
zinc phoenix
or just poke it again
plucky flax
Gigachad melee vet.
radiant frigate
stealth and/or voc 
loud reef
If Rogue Trader 2 comes out, there better be an Ogryn companion
wooden flare
Gigachad melee vet.
Swap the tax mode and get rending
plucky flax
Tax?
mossy oyster
late yew
Gigachad melee vet.
this hurts me physically
plucky flax
No I don't swap to range weapon.
radiant frigate
Gigachad melee vet.
whar, no close quarters killzone or the other thingy?
plucky flax
I don't play double barrel meme.
wooden flare
The more I look at it the more I hate it
radiant frigate
this hurts me physically
why is that
mossy oyster
Bpistol is the only meme I see in this chat
late yew
Can you make bleed build with vet?
mossy oyster
😏
prime elk
Can you make bleed build with vet?
Kinda not really
plucky flax
1.3k melee kills in 27 mins
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1296173224878407791/image.png?ex=671152e2&is=67100162&hm=09873c9ace428436be5a1d429581f8d07f8af7aebc21e23e0f560bd62242ca50&
Weapon specialist who?
radiant frigate
1.3k melee kills in 27 mins
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363...
48 ranged kills
fraud
royal falcon
Can you make bleed build with vet?
I mean if you're running knife or the chainsword/axe, kinda?
I don't think there's any vet talents that capitalize on bleed compared to zealot
radiant frigate
Probably 48 specials.
melee them too!
plucky flax
Not if they are trappers I am scared.
radiant frigate
weak aura
plucky flax
mossy oyster
plucky flax
Vet sucked anyway wish i was playing psyker.
prime elk
Not if they are trappers I am scared.
I’m with you
plucky flax
Would have easily done 1mil damage that game.
prime elk
Always shoot trapper
royal falcon
Vet sucked anyway wish i was playing psyker.
this but the opposite
radiant frigate
every time i play psword i wish i had illisi instead
true and real
it is just not nearly as mobile
radiant frigate
no illisi is also zippy
royal falcon
true,,,
radiant frigate
and way worse vs crushers
but it feels cool to use
- unempowered illisi actually still fucks
as opposed to psword
radiant frigate
prime elk
I dislike how illisi feels ngl
radiant frigate
I dislike how illisi feels ngl
ripe obsidian
I am out-psyker'd. D:
radiant frigate
i will not settle for anything less than uncanny slaughterer
plucky flax
@mossy oyster also agile engagement is better than WS.
radiant frigate
I am out-psyker'd. D:
hmmm.. uncanny slaughterer illisi.. nexus surge voidstrike.. this seems familiar
ripe obsidian
Are you implying it was you who out-psyker'd me? If so, you're quite good.
radiant frigate
oh, no, i am not implying that
i'm just saying that i used to run that exact weapon setup a lot
ripe obsidian
I enjoy it
radiant frigate
you have good taste
ripe obsidian
I've tried other builds, other staves, but this is the one I feel best playing
radiant frigate
is it bb/shriek/dd too
nocturne dust
I dislike how illisi feels ngl
same
ripe obsidian
I use Smite. Well "use." I have smite equipped.
nocturne dust
Powering up every attack feels awful to me
royal falcon
do yall fw soul blaze still
jovial juniper
do yall fw soul blaze still
Perilous Combustion yes
Wildfire, build dependant
royal falcon
perfect combustion is uhhhhhh
specials & elites exploding on soulblaze death right
nocturne dust
perfect combustion is uhhhhhh
specials & elites exploding on soulblaze death rig...
no it's killing an elite/special causes it to spread soulblaze
not on soulblaze death
royal falcon
ic
nocturne dust
Souldrinker wishes
nocturne dust
Souldrinker should move to weapon swap node and that weapon swap node should get replaced with something useful
like toughness gen for meleekers
royal falcon
up to +50% weapon wield speed based on peril ⁉️
nocturne dust
up to +50% weapon wield speed based on peril ⁉️
royal falcon
how else will I fast switch to the bolter I don't even have
nocturne dust
how else will I fast switch to the bolter I don't even have
with your mind
psyker
zinc phoenix
psychotic laughter
nocturne dust
damn these point taxes
not a point tax because you don't take souldrinker
royal falcon
I do not think a psyker could physically lift a bolter
radiant frigate
I do not think a psyker could physically lift a bolter
literally why not
zinc phoenix
i dont think a zealot could operate a dueling sword
mossy oyster
<@139852743358545920> also agile engagement is better than WS.
dont know what this means I have a lvl 3 vet
royal falcon
just about as malnourished as the other rejects + spending all their time doing brain shit instead of getting swole
nocturne dust
Lol, the 'smart but physically weak' is a dumb stereotype
mossy oyster
dirty vet player found out
nocturne dust
Smart people exercise
royal falcon
Lol, the 'smart but physically weak' is a dumb stereotype
no stamina no health no toughness you look me in the eyes and tell me a psyker is at all physically adept
radiant frigate
Lol, the 'smart but physically weak' is a dumb stereotype
"any society that separates their warriors from their scholars will have their thinking done by cowards and their fighting done by fools"
nocturne dust
no stamina no health no toughness you look me in the eyes and tell me a psyker i...
Me outblocking and outsurviving every other class: They are
plucky flax
dont know what this means I have a lvl 3 vet
And you flame me for no weapon specialist 
royal falcon
Me outblocking and outsurviving every other class: They are <:chadgryn:116114299...
carried by the Warp smh my head
radiant frigate
wtf chaos time traveller
nocturne dust
carried by the Warp smh my head
The Warp is a nice sugar mommy 
plucky flax
Only unsanctioned people can time travel
royal falcon
wtf chaos time traveller
warp travel shenanigans
radiant frigate
no stamina no health no toughness you look me in the eyes and tell me a psyker i...
same health as vet btw
nocturne dust
Psyker may have a hard time lasting as long as Vet (in toughness), but they recover way quicker (in toughness).
upper sun
Only unsanctioned people can time travel
um aktually thats not tru
the ordo chronos has been sanctioned for a while!!!
zinc phoenix
psyker should have three wounds baseline so that we can boom harder
nocturne dust
Martyr Psyker when
zinc phoenix
i mean theyre getting pretty close to martyr psyker with warp unbound + no knockdown when perils
i just want to be a walking boom machine
upper sun
the boom only does like 500 damage
zinc phoenix
the boom only does like 500 damage
oh i know
nocturne dust
Hot take but chaos wastes while fun are still kinda crappy for a roguelite mode
upper sun
maybe 600 with uncanny?
zinc phoenix
and the aoe is terrible
upper sun
you can prolly push it to 700 with executor or power stim or some shit
zinc phoenix
i still do it sometimes when i think it'll be funny
near drift
it's not about the damage it's about sending a message
upper sun
but thats too much stuff to juggle
nocturne dust
i mean theyre getting pretty close to martyr psyker with warp unbound + no knoc...
Crystalline Will just needs to make us do big boom
zinc phoenix
Crystalline Will just needs to make us do big boom
YES
zinc phoenix
like why not make that skill's outcome hilariously strong so if you misplay you can transform it into something awesome
jovial juniper
i just want to be a walking boom machine
Bro's a boom box 🗣️
nocturne dust
like why not make that skill's outcome hilariously strong so if you misplay you ...
The martyr way
near drift
ogryn frag sized explosion when you self boom with crystalline will can you imagine
zinc phoenix
Bro's a boom box 🗣️
i didnt think the youths would understand the word LOL
timid storm
Is penetrating flames good or would blaze away be better?
what is a sainted rarity???
bleak maple
mod
timid storm
just visual?
bleak maple
when 500 is just turns red
timid storm
ohh got it
rigid mortar
So Scarier’s gaze how do you build into it? Also trying to use heavy sword+brain rupture+ empowered psionic with gaze so yeah
narrow herald
WE GOT ANOTHER ONE
left basin
ew
nocturne dust
upper sun
@lethal lagoon this needs to be studied why do i play better without you on my team?
left basin
buff bobstrike
royal falcon
<@1001693431300636764> this needs to be studied why do i play better without you...
you know how some people do worse on something while trying to show off to people they like
left basin
<@1001693431300636764> this needs to be studied why do i play better without you...
chob leplay 😠
nocturne dust
buff bobstrike
boobstrike buff when
left basin
now-now?
ornate hamlet
Whats the meta blessings for Voidblast?
rigid mortar
What’s so bad about a hybrid assail build?
royal falcon
oh that's easy!