psyker-class

[nocturne dust]

No, game is meant to be won.

If you disagree you're wrong and should feel bad.

[plucky flax]

Tru I am bad.

[nocturne dust]

[plucky flax]

Top 1% unsanctioned sedition psyker.

[waxen jackal]

I typically look builds up for games. But I'm trying to break that habit. So I can get more outta the game idk

[nocturne dust]

I'm in the top 100% of psykers, you should listen to me

my number is bigger

[plucky flax]

Top 100000%

Teach me master.

[strong gulch]

valid

[zinc phoenix]

I would wait longer on that one

[waxen jackal]

I am really enjoying DS more than force sword. Gotten me out of some rough spots.

[zinc phoenix]

Owlcat needs a LOT of time to cook

[waxen jackal]

I've heard most of the bugs are ironed out. And the dlc they just released is apparently their best one ever.

[zinc phoenix]

Try shock maul with the blessing that stuns enemies on a well timed block, it’s a hoot

[worn beacon]

I'll probably have to make new builds because all staff builds are from atheneum

[waxen jackal]

Or so people say

[worn beacon]

And as it turns out

They're

I don't know how to even put it

"Pygex cannot be trusted for actual builds"

[nocturne dust]

I mean they're example builds

[analog agate]

All those builds are viable

[plucky flax]

Check UnsanctionedPsyker on youtube for veri OP and easy builds.

[analog agate]

He doesn’t talk though. I want a content creator who is always talking

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah I don’t want to be rude to him but I agree tbh

[waxen jackal]

Is DS still good for blazing trauma? Or should I get a more horde clearing weapon?

[nocturne dust]

Do you prefer 5 hour long video for 5 minutes of content too

[analog agate]

Yes. It is meta

[fresh reef]

fuck it, gimmick build

[plucky flax]

Maybe he's mute.

[fresh reef]

see elite glow blue in crowd, throw in Rupture, elite might die

funny

[nocturne dust]

Imagine speaking.

[waxen jackal]

I really like the chainsword. Just cuz it's a chainsaw and a sword. I might use that at some point down the line.

[zinc phoenix]

This is some hipster shit right here

[latent mauve]

Lies

[nocturne dust]

I tried to make a build with all the worst talents

[analog agate]

You pretty much just want to make sure your melee weapon can do something to armored/boss. So any weapon that can deal with carapace/unyielding is paired with blast staff

[tepid python]

whats the ideal gun for psyker

[zinc phoenix]

“Can I carry an auric maelstrom with all the worst psyker talents using a surge staff????”

Million dollar YouTube video

[nocturne dust]

Depends.

[zinc phoenix]

Bolt pistol

[waxen jackal]

Yeah I'm probably gonna stick with my DS. I might get the chainsword for a fun build later or something

[nocturne dust]

Recon Lasgun is a popular pick.

[zinc phoenix]

Bolt pistol is quick to draw, good ammo load and has excellent synergy with our traits and the ds4

[waxen jackal]

What about perks for trauma? Flak/maniac?

[nocturne dust]

fire trauma?

[zinc phoenix]

I like crit chance

[waxen jackal]

Ya

[nocturne dust]

flak/crit chance iirc

[waxen jackal]

Crit chance would be smart

More fire

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/chiquichico-gif-26004262

[zinc phoenix]

Idk if flak matters, I usually feel most mad about carapace mobs while flak stuff usually gets scattered and dies eventually

[worn beacon]

CIAG

If you like the ol' reliable

[analog agate]

I haven’t looked at the atheneum in a bit. But he either says in there or he said it here that the builds at the end are alternate builds to the meta. And aren’t supposed to be meta builds

[waxen jackal]

I'll try both. See which one is better.

[zinc phoenix]

Which is fine and all but I’ve tried a few and they’re, uh, 😒

[analog agate]

I agree haha

[zinc phoenix]

Some people make off meta stuff that is really good

Other people make off meta stuff that reminds me why there is a meta

[waxen jackal]

My last match the veteran woke up 2 DHs and managed to slaughter them in seconds. It was crazy

[thorn cedar]

i might have gone too far

[zinc phoenix]

Why do you have the bad fire trait and not the good one?

[analog agate]

If you are sticking with the ds do flak for blast. You will use your sword or br for carapace units

[waxen jackal]

That's what I was thinking too. I have carapace and unyielding on my ds

[thorn cedar]

how can i express to a reasoned mind the reasonings of the insane

[nocturne dust]

the bad fire trait is souldrinker for being on the wrong side of the tree

[worn beacon]

Flamer gunker imagine

[zealous onyx]

hey, when did they introduced the unlimited power lightning thing ?

[zinc phoenix]

Truest truths

[thorn cedar]

blaze illisi

[nocturne dust]

eeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwww

[clear heath]

this is the worst thing i've seen

[worn beacon]

Do you mean smite or surge staff

[zinc phoenix]

When we accepted the power of the dark side

[nocturne dust]

Good

[analog agate]

That’s entirely it. They are trying to get people to use melee blazing. Ohhhhh fat shark

[zinc phoenix]

I wish direct damage shriek had a purpose

[zealous onyx]

y smite

[nocturne dust]

It does, it's so Fatshark can meet their talent quota

[pine sail]

It needs a damage buff imo

[fresh reef]

it does now, unironically with flayer

[thorn cedar]

wdym it chunks an entire 2/3rds of a groaners hp

[nocturne dust]

[worn beacon]

It's been here for ages

[nocturne dust]

[fresh reef]

press F = 100% one dead elite

[nocturne dust]

You joshing my posh, my sibling?

[zealous onyx]

ok, I havent played in a long while, I was wondering why a skill that powerful made it in the game

[analog agate]

I wish it gibbed the horde. Just a giant blood explosion

[nocturne dust]

The heretic ogryn who had a mild headache:

[zinc phoenix]

🧐 why would I not just use trauma or void for the same thing while keeping the fire shriek I know and love?

[fresh reef]

because build variety

[worn beacon]

It was always like that

[fresh reef]

also, neither of those can go through 20m thick steel walls

[tepid python]

on?

[zinc phoenix]

💩 is not really what I want in my variety pack tbh

[nocturne dust]

Have I got a build for you:

[tepid python]

level 6 rn 😔

[tepid python]

what is that 🤨

[zinc phoenix]

Use melkbucks or brunt to buy a halfway decent one and grind that shit

[nocturne dust]

What you prefer. The meta guns are recon lasgun, vraks (columbus) infantry auto gun, and revolver

[worn beacon]

As of now

[nocturne dust]

specifically zarona

[worn beacon]

Vraks Infantry Autogun

Mk5

[nocturne dust]

CIAG --> VIAGra

[tepid python]

i have braced autogun mastery, how does ot compare

[nocturne dust]

Viable but worse, especially on psyker since it's not a crit gun

Probably fine for leveling though

[worn beacon]

I beg your pardon

[nocturne dust]

You may beg

https://tenor.com/view/count-dooku-christopher-lee-star-wars-gif-23719747

[daring wren]

does warp siphon reduce scrier's gaze CD? it didn't at an earlier point.

[worn beacon]

Oh no I am not begging

[nocturne dust]

warp siphon does

[worn beacon]

I am taking that fucking pardon

[nocturne dust]

You may try, but I've already destroyed it

[worn beacon]

VIAG is one of best picks for gunker

Along with recon

[nocturne dust]

......yes?

[analog agate]

It is?

[worn beacon]

Since when it wasn't

[analog agate]

[pine sail]

Which Curios do you guys prefer on Psyker?

[nocturne dust]

#psyker-class message
I would like to point out that this message and my subsequent replies aren't talking about VIAG, but the braced version

[waxen jackal]

Trauma is gonna take some getting used to

[worn beacon]

Oh I am

[waxen jackal]

Just like real life

[worn beacon]

I am restarted

[nocturne dust]

3x health and 3x gunner, sniper, and toughness regen because I run empyric resolve on every build

[analog agate]

As you are getting used to it. Look up how to quell cancel if you haven’t already and try and incorporate it

[wooden flare]

Been a while since I played but I still enjoy my old Psyker build lol

I dub it the Psyker Knight

[worn beacon]

Orrrrrrr

[waxen jackal]

Thanks for the tip. Ideally should I just be spamming the secondary attack?

[nocturne dust]

I mean, the new builds are the old builds

[worn beacon]

Grab a gun :)

[nocturne dust]

or don't quell cancel

quell cancelling is unneeded, git gud

[wooden flare]

Be a real man

[pine sail]

Yeah I was using toughness but thinking I should switch to HP, and I bring sniper resist too

[wooden flare]

Fight at 100% peril

you coward

[worn beacon]

Be a man

[teal fog]

i hate when your peril goes over 100% and you get grabbed by a mutant and instantly explode before you get the chance to use venting shriek

[worn beacon]

Blow up

[tame venture]

Oh yeah that reminds me, Ive been seeing smite used a lot in games, even by otherwise non braindead players, has something changed about it?

[teal fog]

it should pause the timer

[analog agate]

Quell canceling on a blaze blast build really enables it

[nocturne dust]

1. aim at feet
2. explode feet

done

[wooden flare]

I mean I always saw it as an amazing crowd control tool that made enemies take more damage

So why not use it ya know

[nocturne dust]

Nope. It works perfectly fine without quell cancelling.

[wooden flare]

What even is Quell cancelling?

Is that when you dodge while quelling

[olive ember]

its when you press r really quickly to animation cancel

[nocturne dust]

In fact, I've yet to see a build that really needs quell cancelling in the slightest. Even lmb spam is fine without it.

[analog agate]

Try and fully charge secondary attack always. You can do less if you just want to stagger. Primary fire at shotgunners to stagger them as well

[pine sail]

Maybe just more players, a lot of new players recently, like me and my friends. Steam Charts say the PC playerbase more than doubled from the recent sale/major patch.

[worn beacon]

Ep smite

[wooden flare]

What force sword does everyone like by chance?

[worn beacon]

Illisi or Deimos

[elder glade]

Yep, illisi or Deimos

[wooden flare]

I’ve been running Illisi, so great for hordes

[nocturne dust]

Illisi for hordes, Deimos for single targets

I dislike illisi tho

[wooden flare]

Deimos is the pokey pokey one right?

[elder glade]

Yep

[nocturne dust]

no, that's ds4

[worn beacon]

Yes
Obliterate one

[nocturne dust]

deimos doesn't really poke so much as bonk

[pine sail]

I enjoy Obscurus most (but I also rarely use my sword and I'm a noob)

[nocturne dust]

Obscurus is bad and... obscure 😏

[wooden flare]

Meanwhile I play Darktide like it’s Vermintide and use my sword as my main weapon

[elder glade]

Obscurus is a sword

[wooden flare]

Lmao

[analog agate]

You are right. Poor choice of word. It enhances it

[nocturne dust]

Zealot/Heavy Hitter Ogryn gaming

[wooden flare]

Psyker Knight ftw

[nocturne dust]

[wooden flare]

100% peril? Sounds like more damage for me

[pine sail]

I feel like Obscurus has more range than Deimos maybe? Not sure, might be wrong

[nocturne dust]

Eh, melee psyker is....

[wooden flare]

Well I’ve been enjoying it

And fun is what matters most

[nocturne dust]

I mean, yeah, completely fair

[pine sail]

I was playing a lot of melee builds before but recently switched to fire staff and I love how much crowd control I have

[worn beacon]

I play my gunker mostly melee

[wooden flare]

If I want to be full sweat I can always make a pew pew funny darts build

Is the funny dart blitz the best one still?

[worn beacon]

And I can tell melee psyker is fun

Activate SG

[wooden flare]

I remember being really annoyed by Psykers using those

[worn beacon]

Spam lights

Horde dies

[nocturne dust]

It's just psyker is mostly built for ranged play and doesn't really have the proper synergies to have a nice build in melee imo.

[worn beacon]

Life good

[wooden flare]

I use Venting Shriek

[worn beacon]

Wasn't that the point of gunker

[wooden flare]

Helps with CC and gets soulblaze going

[clear heath]

scriers gaze is pretty nice for melee

[nocturne dust]

Well, yes and no, if you go for melee psyker there's definitely a lot of overlap with gunker, yes, but it works more for gunker than melee.

[wooden flare]

Gunker?

[nocturne dust]

gun psyker

[burnt gazelle]

gun psyker

[analog agate]

Melee is for vet 😡

[wooden flare]

Oh

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/phoenix-wright-ace-attorney-capcom-gun-no-u-gif-20820699

[worn beacon]

Melee is for everyone 🔥

[wooden flare]

Real Vets play Krak grenade spam

[nocturne dust]

I mean, even the most ranged build is going to be using melee if it wants to be efficient

[pine sail]

I wanted to be a Melee Psyker because I love this obscure game called EYE Divine Cybermancy. It isn't an official 40k game but you're basically playing as Grey Knights, so every character is a Space Marine Psyker regardless of how they build the character. The blocking bullets and using the warp to AoE blast things around you with the Force Sword is exactly the same in EYE if you play a melee focused build.

[worn beacon]

It's just everyone but psyker makes good melee builds lmao

[burnt gazelle]

psyker got 10% melee AS now, crack of bone, and buffed malefic momentum now

KD is also comically strong

[worn beacon]

Martyrdom Rashad on Zealot is broken

[nocturne dust]

The issue is psyker lacks good toughness regen on melee builds, and considering how squishy he is and that toughness regen is his main way to not die...

also crack of bone sucks

[worn beacon]

Just don't get hit bro

It's not like ds4 has infinite dodges now

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/peace-out-gif-22295199

[clear heath]

with the crit from scriers gaze and the dodge from crit talent, you can melee in gunfire pretty well

[nocturne dust]

Don't get me wrong, you can definitely make it work.

[inland berry]

why do i blow up with voidstrike but not with electro?

[analog agate]

Context is needed

[inland berry]

I keep hitting perils of the warp with the voidstrike, im not doing it with electro, i don't know what i'm doing wrong

does voidstrike fire faster?

[clear heath]

no

[sick wasp]

The bug is still there, if u fire fast enough

they just made it so it doesnt happen as often as it did

based on my testing earlier

[nocturne dust]

don't reach 100% peril and you won't explode

[burnt gazelle]

assail is the easy mode for quick toughness regen, but you can weave in charged staff attacks too with some combo of push and dodgeslide.

mostly try not to get hit twice tho yeah

[sick wasp]

the right click exploding from other staff is fixed tho

[nocturne dust]

Neither of those things sound like melee

[sick wasp]

its melee if u hug the mob close enough silly

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/fatcatzcouple-egg-yolk-cat-happy-kitty-kitties-yellow-cat-gif-20508008

[analog agate]

Your timing is probably just off. You need to be below 100% when you actually fire the shot

[burnt gazelle]

my agile engagement ws vet gonna be very upset

[clear heath]

the real melee gameplay is bonking the enemies with your staff

[sick wasp]

which defeats the purpose of that talent lol

[nocturne dust]

they didn't mention warp unbound or SG

[clear heath]

I don't think he's dying to the scriers bug

[analog agate]

I don’t think he is talking about Warp Unbound

[clear heath]

if he was, he would've mentioned scriers

[sick wasp]

ah

oh neat red name

i can use my bugcat emojis now

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/lhp-satan-dance-cult-lucifer-gif-8498450605985791030

[clear heath]

i think he's just blowing up from focusing too much on aiming instead of peril tbh

[burnt gazelle]

are you firing lmb or charged attacks?

[sick wasp]

just move peril directly center of ur screen XD

[inland berry]

both

[lethal lagoon]

Just program a shock collar to shock you everytime it's dangerous to attack.

[clear heath]

if you're used to playing rmb electro staff, you get really used to how little you need to pay attention to stuff

[inland berry]

Idk i was doing fine with electro staff and void staff i constantly blow myself up

[clear heath]

cause you don't even need to aim with it

so you can just stare at peril

[sick wasp]

yeah its not even hard to know when itll make u go boom once u play with it a lot

[zinc phoenix]

have you considered not doing that?

make the right choice

[sick wasp]

the right choice: use a gun

[nocturne dust]

You are correct if you change 'right' to 'wrong'.

[burnt gazelle]

you'll get used to it and start not blowing up

they feel different to use, you just need to learn it and half of that is muscle memory

and half of that is being able to catch yourself and not confirm the attack you're charging when you reach 100 peril and about to blow yourself up

[sick wasp]

u can always start quelling from 90

[nocturne dust]

I just have the peril gauge mod installed

imagine using memory

[sick wasp]

need mod that has the screaming goat when u pass 95 peril

[burnt gazelle]

is it really psyker gaming if you're not constantly deafened by the high peril sfx

[nocturne dust]

Imagine being at high peril

This post was made by Habitual Quellers Anonymous

[radiant frigate]

siblings i am finding it harder to keep playing psyker

[sick wasp]

anyone ever go out of their way to get battle meditation

[spice veldt]

i do since i have spare points from not putting anything into ult upgrades

[analog agate]

It can help with inferno if you want to just keep casting

And smite builds use it

[clear heath]

I grab battle meditation for gun psyker because I don't really need the warp damage buff on crit node

and it helps with scriers slightly i guess

[cold oasis]

i mean, it does waste 2 points

[worn beacon]

Ever tried giving up magic for firearms?

[radiant frigate]

it's what i have done, and it is what makes it harder to justify

[cold oasis]

battle meditation is great if you're there, if you need to spend another point for the quell stuff, eh

[radiant frigate]

sure i can play something like ds laspistol

but zealot does that better

legitimately

[analog agate]

The reason you don’t want to use BM is if you are always trying to stay in high peril zone for greatest dmg and chance for crits. Like with blaze blast and electro staff

It can knock you out of that

[radiant frigate]

battle meditation is, imo, garbage outside of smyker

and we do not like smyker

[cold oasis]

i mean, if you're there and not going soulblaze, i prefer it a lot over perlious combustion

[analog agate]

WHAT

[radiant frigate]

crazy

insane

bonkers

[analog agate]

Burn the witch

[cold oasis]

me no likey fake damage from soulblaze that kills nothing 😦

[radiant frigate]

it really isn't

[analog agate]

That’s certainly a take

[radiant frigate]

you kill half an elite pack and the other half falls over

[wintry patio]

Siblings, how do we feel about this lmb electro staff build my friend sent me?
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d30ed45-73c1-48f3-9939-deacad6429b4/left-crit-ck

[sick wasp]

no salvo?

surge salvo seems kinda op

[radiant frigate]

why

nexus so you surge more

[radiant frigate]

i question the curios and perk choices on the staff

[sick wasp]

idk salvos kindof consistent if ur just LMBing

[radiant frigate]

so is an extra 20% crit

[sick wasp]

esp with shriek u kinda lose that 20% crit no?

[radiant frigate]

and then you get back up to it

[sick wasp]

20% is at what peril again

[wintry patio]

specifically the ranged crit damage? Yeah I don't know if that hits any breakpoints taking into account the rest of the build

[radiant frigate]

80%

[sick wasp]

just get crit chance and flak

for the staff

[radiant frigate]

not sure about the crit chance either, but the crit damage is definitely notgreat

i would probably go for something like flak unyielding

but you can play around with it

[upper sun]

crit flak goes on all staves

except surge its crit elite

[mossy oyster]

no clad stop poisoning the watering hole

[upper sun]

shut up

you dont even use staves

[mossy oyster]

just cause I don’t use them doesn’t mean I’m telling people to build it like dog shite

with crit chance

[rancid geyser]

choosing warp battery over perfect timing is an odd choice

[upper sun]

wrong

WRONG

YOURE WRONG

CRIT GOES ON ALL STAVES

[rancid geyser]

even if the extra 2 stacks give a bit more cdr

[mossy oyster]

well you’re dog shit who plays on heresy

why would I listen

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1202399927322419230.webp?size=96&quality=lossless

go hit some heresy breakpoints buddy

with crit chance

[wintry patio]

He said he was trying to shout as much as possible so that's probably why he kept it but that's a good point

[rancid geyser]

other than the warp battery choice and crit damage on staff its almost identical to what i use

[lethal lagoon]

What?

[upper sun]

u heard me

[clear heath]

i'm still not convinced on flayer being a good choice

[lethal lagoon]

No you were in the back collecting plasteel

So I didn't quite catch that

[upper sun]

oh sorry

[lethal lagoon]

Repeat it

[upper sun]

wait till air lock

[lethal lagoon]

No flak on Surge is wild though

[upper sun]

how much did i get in the hab dreyko game

[lethal lagoon]

Plasteel?

[upper sun]

I SAID FLAK ELITE

ye

[lethal lagoon]

945 I think?

[upper sun]

all me?

[rancid geyser]

same but i am trying to like it

[lethal lagoon]

I dunno, I only have pickups, lemme check.

[upper sun]

oh ye

i meant flak elite

[spice veldt]

huh first time i've seen that used
neat

[upper sun]

i misspoke

MISINPUT MISSINPUT

[rancid geyser]

i like 5% crit and carapace on surge

[upper sun]

FLAK ELITE

[rancid geyser]

lmao

[upper sun]

no

surge needs flak

[lethal lagoon]

How do you still not have mods

[upper sun]

unplayable without it

[rancid geyser]

im not taking no as an answer i actually kill crushers with my shit lmao

you sure

[upper sun]

i stream the game

[rancid geyser]

wanna see me delete maulers?

[wintry patio]

Oh hey I got a role finally

[lethal lagoon]

So?

[upper sun]

maybe next year ill get a pc

[lethal lagoon]

People wanna see the mods

OH

Lmao

[upper sun]

i dunno

yeah

[rancid geyser]

well actually im sure you are talking about rmb

[clear heath]

i actually do run crit elite on my lmb surge staff

[rancid geyser]

now that i think about it

[lethal lagoon]

I was like "You stream, wtf"

[upper sun]

yes

i play on other people's pcs

[lethal lagoon]

No, like streaming

[upper sun]

yes

[lethal lagoon]

In front of people

[upper sun]

i stream the game form a server

does my roommate count?

[lethal lagoon]

I hate you but I'm addicted to your plasteel

[rancid geyser]

convert!

[upper sun]

ok avicii

[upper sun]

no

[lethal lagoon]

51-2-0-3

Were the mateiral pick ups

[rancid geyser]

CONVERT!

[upper sun]

no

[upper sun]

uhhhh

[rancid geyser]

it is time for psykers to AIM!

[upper sun]

51 small 2 big ?

[lethal lagoon]

No I mean you picked up 51 materials

I picked up 2, beans 3

[upper sun]

kek

i kept pinging one diamantine after the drop

but no one picked it up

[clear heath]

i tried playing lmb surge a bit more
actually it's not too bad on 200 ping

i just mindlessly spam into groups

it still works well enough

[rancid geyser]

im still wondering how ppl are struggling on diamantine

[upper sun]

tbh might switch to momentum for better looting

[rancid geyser]

when i cant even keep ordos in my pocket

[plucky flax]

Knife momentum.

Zoom zoom get all mats.

[upper sun]

no

ds4

[plucky flax]

But I am super rich so I don't need mats anymore.

[upper sun]

starting to regret the ~10mil i spent on surges and hammers

[clear heath]

i'm super poor but i'd rather just rush the mission instead of people grabbing plasteel or whatever

[rancid geyser]

i can only do this with carapace, if only elite did that i would

[clear heath]

can just sell the emperor's gifts if i need mats

[rancid geyser]

elite is kinda over kill because the only thing lmb doesnt delete is orgyn enemies

[clear heath]

fire like one extra shot or have more peril or something

it ends up not mattering

i'd rather kill bulwarks and other shit slightly faster than worry about 1 extra shot on the first crusher of a pack

[spice veldt]

the latest update annihilated the plasteel and diamantine value
the market is down

[rancid geyser]

i hope it is but imma clip that real quick

pretty sure its not just 1 more extra but i can be wrong

[clear heath]

like realistically i'm at like 40-60 peril and not at 0

[rancid geyser]

lets see

[clear heath]

so there's more crits and more damage from warp rider

[rancid geyser]

yeah easy to test tho

its 1 less pre 40 but if i hit 40 and im not 2 tapping these crushers thats an issue

[placid crypt]

Thoughts on keeping warp resistance low vs getting to 60% for the high peril synergies?

[upper sun]

its peak

oh

you mean not empowering it

yeah up to you

you can always build another 8080808060

but you cant unempower this one

[clear heath]

wtf virus

[analog agate]

I bet warp res that low would actually make it so you lose out on a full blast. Meaning you are missing on a break point

[rancid geyser]

were you buggin or?

thats legit 1 more hit per crusher

and elite legit isnt even mattering much on anything else but bullwarks which still kinda die fast

[clear heath]

idk maybe i had warp charges

[rancid geyser]

yeah more than likely

[upper spruce]

what does this mean?

[upper sun]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[rancid geyser]

the only way you kill crushers fast is with carapace

[clear heath]

i can try when i get home
honestly i don't really care if it's not like perfectly consistent

[upper sun]

10 SECONDS TO SCAB MELEE

[analog agate]

Weapon swap speed

[upper sun]

😭

😭

ATLAS

WHY DIDNT U TELL ME

[analog agate]

MMT. Noob

[upper sun]

🙄

[delicate dove]

Oh yeah, is perilous assault LITERALLY just weapon swap?

[clear heath]

also i usually just assume perfect timing is fully stacked from the start

[rancid geyser]

welll you always fully stack it per crucher

the lmbs dont get much damage vs crushers from it

with elites

with carapace

same hits required

even worse i had carapace on at 0 peril

[upper sun]

ok back to rashad marty

[lethal lagoon]

melee mael kinda braindead

O.o

[upper sun]

but its fun

[lethal lagoon]

I had my fun already though

[rancid geyser]

yeah the more i test the less elite actually does anything for lmb surge

XD

[clear heath]

There's more than just controlled breakpoints though
Especially since it effects shriek as well, and surge rmb hits 2 targets, as well as random crits

things aren't ever full hp when you fight them

You shriek at bulwarks from across the room

they're not at exactly full hp

[rancid geyser]

well thats fair but this was a comment that i had to correct, i was hoping it would enlighten a bit

it would be hard how much elite affects rmb on crowds on a lmb build

but then again you arent really building rmb for an lmb build

[clear heath]

the statement is still true for me.
I'd rather kill the bulwarks slightly faster

[rancid geyser]

rmb really is just for orgryns

mostly

[clear heath]

only the first crusher is really that effected by the breakpoints
They spawn in packs
you'd chip them a bit with the lightning arcing to them

and you'd have warp charges after killing one

[rancid geyser]

like you said you will check when you get home --- if the clips werent evidence enough, but elite bonus really doesnt kill them faster

that again could possbly be tested tho

like 3 bulwarks back to back

[clear heath]

bulwarks are an odd case because of shriek and perilous combustion

soulblaze hurts them a fair bit

[rancid geyser]

ngl trying to kill bulwarks in general is a pain when isolated now that im testing

[clear heath]

crushers are generally going to be more static situation because realistically soulblaze isn't doing shit to them

[rancid geyser]

no way to just stack empyric and the rmb is the deciding factor

so imma check is rmb with elite actually does clear them faster

[clear heath]

Like I almost always shriek them from across the room when i see them

so they've lost some health

sometimes that lines up with elites killing them faster, sometimes it doesn't matter

[lethal lagoon]

wanna play

[rancid geyser]

carapace vs elites -- yeah elitres specifically for bulwarks i can see

annoying AF

i would just melee but i can see a world where this is worth

actually looking at the times

idk if it mattered 0.0

3 seconds

worth XD

fuck bulwarks lmao

[clear heath]

yeah look at all the times they die from soulblaze
if you did 10% less damage overall, it'd take you maybe 3 more ticks for them to die in those cases, or you'd have to attack again

[inland berry]

Is it my fault if i die to huge waves of enemies and gunners and my teammates don't target any of them?

[ornate sedge]

depends if you waltzed out of cover without thinking

[inland berry]

I was trying to follow my team and got killed in transit

[rancid geyser]

fair elite is fine, i just think crushers are more of a threat, just happens that carapace also makes you delete maulers

[inland berry]

not that i was separated

[ornate sedge]

if you stray from your team or fail to keep up that is somewhat on you, understandable if you got jumped beforehand

[rancid geyser]

usually i would say yes, i have learned to not expect shit from anyone but myself -- this is a team game tho

[ornate sedge]

either way learning how to dodge and slide effectively essentially nulifies the danger ranged units present

[rancid geyser]

shouldnt have to not rely on team mates

[clear heath]

yeah that's fair
i just don't hate crushers quite that much

only kinda hate them

[wet flax]

best blessings for voidstrike staff?

[inland berry]

Specifically right after getting ressed

[rancid geyser]

imma say it, if your team leaves you behind, they are just as bad for letting someone lag

[ornate sedge]

warp flurry and surge

[rancid geyser]

teams fail to look behind them in regular runs

its really bad

[inland berry]

like, they would pick me up, and then just fuck off without killing anything that was responsible for downing me

[rancid geyser]

they KNOW shit can be behind them then wonrder why ppl go down

[inland berry]

oh the behind part is infuriating

like

dude

I die so fucking fast

please help me defend myself

[rancid geyser]

if you as a teammate aren't WONDERING why someone is lagging behind and you have no dudes to kill --- you might just be bad

but if you are lagging behind and have mad shit to kill idk if i can blame you much

unlucky lot

[strong gulch]

Getting to test WU fix for purg, and if you start the cast while WU is up but finish it after WU expires, you blow up. The protection doesn't snapshot to the cast.

In the screenshot, I casted at 100% peril and the WU protection will end before I finish the cast. The "0.3" above the reticle is my WU timer.

[upper sun]

sure

[inland berry]

like, i went down 4 times in a row cause they'd run in, res me into 3 fucking gunners which i'd pinged already, and leave me to die

[upper sun]

i just wiped

[lethal lagoon]

[rancid geyser]

yeah they do this too, and sometimes talk shit to one another

[lethal lagoon]

Shoudl have handled that in the bathroom

[strong gulch]

butt

[rancid geyser]

yeah its an awareness problem

a lot of people dont have awareness

and no critical thinking

but its a whole other problem when it happens to them -- had a run with 2 ppl arguing like 2 days ago

[inland berry]

there was a moment where the zealot popped his ability that stuns everyone, and the ogryn sat there meleeing shit instead of picking me up, and then AFTER the ability was over, he started ressing me

[upper sun]

the other zealot was really good tho

[inland berry]

and i'm sitting there fuming

[rancid geyser]

blow cc for free swings, go for res when its not safe anymore

[inland berry]

literally

[rancid geyser]

MOSH PIT!

tox bombers are actually my most hated enemy

might even consider them the strongest lmao

[inland berry]

oh god tox bombers suck so much

anything with aoe damage

[rancid geyser]

well you see its not the damage

its the obstruction of vision and the damn buffs they give to enemies

[inland berry]

it buffs the enemies?

[rancid geyser]

yes

[spice mulch]

What perks work best for the EK staff?

[rancid geyser]

lmao

iirc pox gas increases enemy hit mass, and gives them DR

[sick wasp]

yeah and they run away too

so like

its so annoying to catch them

[rancid geyser]

forget the percentages

[burnt gazelle]

gas speed-boosted mutants are so funny

[rancid geyser]

Damage reduction based on armor type. Enemies take 20-200 less damage.
2.5 times the mass (mass increase)
40% move speed buff

these are the effects of pox gas on enemies

annoying

[burnt gazelle]

i still have bomber hypervigilance in general tho after that one patch where fire DoT ramping killed you in like 2s

[eternal junco]

still not as bad as old flamers and firebombers

[ornate sedge]

man wtf

[rancid geyser]

Pox Gas does about 8% damage per tick to a player's toughness for each second they stand in the gas. Once toughness is depleted, gas will begin causing corruption damage to the player's health pool.

this is what it does to you

[eternal junco]

hey, vsauce Michael here. Your toughness is full... Or is it?

one fire tick shatters it instantly

[rancid geyser]

so when they inhale their monster fuel vapor -- have fun

oh and to add insult to ingury you can get hit by the bomb for a small amount of damage

its funny

gl running out of the radius with no stamina

[eternal junco]

Bombs should have hitboxes and physics

let me slap it out of the air

Or hit the nastiest revolver clip ever

[rancid geyser]

they should do more friendly damage

having a regular bomber drop his explosive and still watch chaff run through it like nothing hit them is a bit demoralizing

[inland berry]

is the combat axe worth using?

[rancid geyser]

for rmb i think someone did mention Flak / Carapace -- it's what i used for RMB spam

for LMB i still would take Carapace but there was the argument for Elite which i cant knock

[spice mulch]

Alrighty. Flak for sure and 50/50 on Carapace/Elite?

[plucky flax]

I use flak maniac.

[rancid geyser]

are you left mouse spam or righ tmouse spam?

[spice mulch]

All the choices!

[nocturne dust]

I use maniac

[spice mulch]

Prooooobably going lmb

[nocturne dust]

oh, I think it's crit chance then... iirc?

[rancid geyser]

if you dont value the 5% crit since you have nexus you COULD just take carapace elite

but i would recommend 5% crit really really hard

[spice mulch]

Alrighty

[rancid geyser]

i forget how fast it was on rmb but lmb deletes ragers

[buoyant maple]

It’s not 8%, it’s got a ramp-up

It’s actually very high toughness damage

[rancid geyser]

i just copy pasta from their website

[buoyant maple]

Wait mb, wrong enemy

[rancid geyser]

actually the values are from wiki

so even that shit can be wrong

[buoyant maple]

70 toughness damage per tick

Ticks once every 0.75s

[rancid geyser]

bro why does it affect regen in gas

wtf is this enemy lmao

[buoyant maple]

I got the rampup wrong, that’s for flamer

[rancid geyser]

and why are we beefin with it

[buoyant maple]

Tox bomber is just

Annoying

[nocturne dust]

The only good bomber is a dead bomber

[rancid geyser]

and disrespectful

ever find yourself hacking and slashing then just get hit with a thump?

green everywhere

[burnt gazelle]

the reduced toughness regen is the big one, otherwise it would kind of suck but you could still fight in it (and did in the first patch where they accidentally inverted the toughness regen so you got more in tox gas lol)

some builds that have really great toughness regen still kiiinda can

[rancid geyser]

inferno staff can sit in it

[unique mist]

how good is "penetration of the soul"?

[rancid geyser]

with mettle soulstealer and souldrinker its almost like the gas doesnt exist

[rancid geyser]

10% of 25%

[nocturne dust]

very eh

[nocturne dust]

You can kinda sit in it with any constant toughness regen

although ER made that harder

[radiant frigate]

i am somewhat confident that vet can simply exist in there

[buoyant maple]

Would rather not

[radiant frigate]

catch a breath + iron will

[elder glade]

Constantly shouting

[radiant frigate]

though i do not recommend catching a breath of that

[rancid geyser]

yup --basically told myelf im not using ER unless I'm on Surge staff

[buoyant maple]

Nah it’s not remotely close to the rate at which toughness goes down

-70 every 0.75s

[radiant frigate]

if air is going out of your mouth then the bad gas can't go in

solution to gas: never stop shouting

[elder glade]

Exactly

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/aaaaaaaaaaa-cat-scream-cat-black-cat-scream-gif-21172009

[rancid geyser]

consistently? probably not

[clear heath]

zealot can comfortably walk through it for the duration of the book F

[rancid geyser]

you can mos def VoC and run tf out tho

[pine sail]

Does Puppet Master (increased coherency aura range) cause Psychic Vampire to have a wider range for generating Warp Charges when Allies kill things too?

[rancid geyser]

only coherency

[pine sail]

Dang

But it says when an ally in coherency gets a kill

[rancid geyser]

so technically its yes?

for vamp the ally or you just have to get the kill in coherency right?

[radiant frigate]

if there are enemies in melee with the vet then no

[rancid geyser]

sounds like a W to me

[radiant frigate]

but otherwise i think a combination of yelling, tdr and regen can do it

[rancid geyser]

nah if there are enemies in melee you probably could sit in that shit

especially with PSword

unless its ragers

[buoyant maple]

Hound wave, yes
Otherwise no

[rancid geyser]

i can see a spot where you are cleaving back to back with PSword

maybe

im assuming IW works on the tick

[pine sail]

Cool thanks, I made a build that just spams Smite and Shield forever, hoping my allies get kills for warp charges, its really dumb but its funny

[radiant frigate]

come to think of it i do not believe i have seen iron will abbreviated that way

because i saw IW and i thought "instinctual warrior? no, wrong game"

[rancid geyser]

gotta sit in vet chat more

we love our favorite crutch

[radiant frigate]

i never sit in vet chat

in fact i never sit in any other class channels

[rancid geyser]

also @buoyant maple ty for the runs yesterday, i passed out in my chair lmao

[placid crypt]

Fun fact, charged strike applies on staff special attack.

[buoyant maple]

U did well

[placid crypt]

Still a worthless special attack, but its neat to electrocute folks with it

[rancid geyser]

oy dont call staff poke worthless

i have killed pox walkers with it XD

[placid crypt]

Give me las pistol force shove instead and I will be very happy

[spice mulch]

I've seen both pop up... for inferno, is the dump stat damage or warp res?

[radiant frigate]

either

[rancid geyser]

there IS an argument for either, i say warp res because i like to stack rider

[radiant frigate]

i would dump warp resist

[spice mulch]

Alrighty.

[radiant frigate]

i would dump warp resist because unless you're running sg it is actually painful to build any sort of peril with burgertus

[rancid geyser]

yeah

[spice mulch]

I kind of wanted to try SG with inferno honestly

Seemed fun

[rancid geyser]

i press quell and almost 80% peril can go in the blink of an eye

[radiant frigate]

it works

[rancid geyser]

i played it while warp unbound was bugged

was annoying but fun

now it works

[spice mulch]

Any builds available for it currently that I can peek at?

[rancid geyser]

this is one im just trying to have fun with

[tepid python]

duelling sword dump stat?

cleave?

[spice mulch]

You're awesome. Ty

[rancid geyser]

dont forget to qull, quietude is actually kinda goated in SG

And assail bumps your peril well even with ER

[buoyant maple]

Mobility

[analog agate]

Cleave if you only use it for poking big guys and nothing else…

[rancid geyser]

i would keep cleave 100% even if you would like the mobility the cleave probably would matter in dire straights

[spice mulch]

What perks should I be looking at for inferno staff?

[analog agate]

I never ever use my sword in a horde. Mobility is better for me

[rancid geyser]

5% crit and flak / flak and unyielding

if you don't want to use it on monsters i would just take the crit, the more ive been using the staff on monsters the more i realize its kinda not worth

then again scrie's gaze would put you to like 60% crit which is kinda overboard

[rancid geyser]

you also generate a lot of toughness even when playing bad

[tepid python]

than what did you dump? not cleave or mobility?

[analog agate]

I dump cleave. But if you will use it on regular poxwalkers/bruisers. dump mobility

[quartz barn]

tip for those who still need the just a flesh wound penance

use the new train mission

actually free

[unique mist]

what curio resistances do you run

toughness regen?

i've heard toughness regen speed isn't great

it only reduces the delay for when your toughness starts regenerating while in coherency

[stark shadow]

guys which mk of recon lasgun is better?

[analog agate]

As a psyker… that is still kinda good as we can be squishy. Also, if you run empyric resolve the consensus is health curios

[unique mist]

i don't run empyric

[clear heath]

Pretty sure it increases the regen speed as well as the delay, unless they reverted it.
It used to be delay-only but they changed it like last year

[unique mist]

ah yeah that too

still, coherency regen speed isn't really what gets me killed most times 🤣

[clear heath]

personally i think it's ok, but it depends on how close you usually play to enemies.
When a melee enemy tries to attack you, it pauses your coherency regen, regardless of if they hit or not

[unique mist]

with empathic evasion i don't find myself being assailed by gunners often, so i'm considering switching up my resistances

i'll run at least 1x gunner, but was also considering bomber and something else

[analog agate]

Then toughness can be a way to go

[nocturne dust]

You can still run toughness with empyric

It's just a matter of how much value you're getting out of coherency regen

[rancid geyser]

toughness regen only affect coherency regen

[lethal lagoon]

Two psykers, both 100 toughness. Both get shot once, now down to 40. One person regens to 60, one regens to 70. They get shot again. First psyker is at 0 and get's staggered and then dies. Second psyker is at 10, and get's to safety.

It's more about accumliation.

And it's really noticeable in-game

Given the current crafting system, 3 toughness regen perks are worth a try

[rancid geyser]

this is right

[lethal lagoon]

No? It increases the spd

We just went over this

[unique mist]

yeah i googled it

it does increase coherency regen speed alongside decreasing the delay

[rancid geyser]

and on the concensus for ER on health curios

[elder glade]

I'll be using the new names for the recon lasguns, this will also be just a short comparison between them all.

DPS wise the MK XII is virtually the best with the highest DPS and has reasonably good ammo economy.

The MK VIc has slightly lower DPS but has a lower rate of fire with higher damage per shot. Because of this it does have a better ammo economy though.

The MK XIV has an even lower fire rate but has the highest damage per hit while also being able to cleave through a couple of small targets. The issue is that it consumes 2 ammo per shot. That, combined with it having the lowest ammo in reserve out of all of the variants can make its ammo economy pretty "meh" when compared to the damage it can dump.

You can't go wrong with any of them while using a Psyker, but there is definitely a preference towards the MK VIc and MK XII

[rancid geyser]

just because you generate less toughness means you want to ignore it all together

a lot of ppl take ER ignore toughness, then cry about being squishy

[analog agate]

You don’t have to ignore it. Just, imo, don’t stack it

[lethal lagoon]

Ignore all that, use the fastest recon

It's not even close with infernous

I mean use whatever you want, but if you are talking best, there's no conversation.

[elder glade]

With infernus the MK XII and the MK VIc are actually pretty close

[rancid geyser]

still worth taking toughness because you will be taking less chip to hp when you get bleed through based on the % of toughness you have remaining

hp is nice, but end of the day you might still be squishy af

not even might

WILL be squishy

[buoyant maple]

Psyker’s toughness scaling is really bad

[rancid geyser]

.7 modifyer on toughness generation doesnt warrent not investing in it

[buoyant maple]

5% toughness is like 7 extra toughness lol

[clear heath]

I assume you're missing a "doesn't" somewhere here

[rancid geyser]

seeing a 200 hp psyker need healing stations every section or going down non stop is legit because they have 0 toghness investment tho, im not saying to refine toughness im saying to take toughness curios specifically

[strong gulch]

If you're stacking toughness curios, be sure to also invest in toughness node on the talent tree to give the curios something more to work with.

[rancid geyser]

yeah XD im on my phone

its weird sometimes

[clear heath]

You can actually get 200 hp and still have decent toughness investment

[strong gulch]

200 hp doesn't = no toughness

It can depsending on what the player invested in.

[rancid geyser]

like 100 toughness and 225hp is a squishy psyker that if you take multiple back to back hits im almost sure you took more damage than a psyker with 140 toughness

[clear heath]

Like i think i have 197 hp with only 1 hp curio

[strong gulch]

200 hp is a general recommendation for psyker too

[rancid geyser]

especially because there is a good amount of toughness DR on tree

[rancid geyser]

yeah like 1 hp curio max is legit what im jacking

[clear heath]

a no toughness build would be like, 260 hp probably

[rancid geyser]

cause i rememebr the [ast few days a lot of ppl have been complaining about going down and being squishy

its because of bad decision making

[clear heath]

yeah I feel like extremely low toughness would be almost unplayable

[rancid geyser]

not including one with the warp there is a total of 20% toughness damage resist on the tree

[clear heath]

i'd rather not face toughness break stagger from a single shooter volley and just melt

[rancid geyser]

you can easily grab 10% TDR

[rancid geyser]

thats another thing

240 hp and 105 toughness into a break might as well have been no bonus hp

look at how little damage i am taking and how much Toughness im still generating with ER

Playing bad on purpose too

cant argue against the cc statement what so ever

fr

[stark shadow]

oh thanks for such a detailed reply! sry i'm new, didn't mean to bother that much

[rancid geyser]

yes

cause toughness has been and always will be better than hp

the better you get at the game

since killing enemies with melee regens a % iirc and taking damage removes a flat amount 1st then bleeds over based on the percentage of toughness you have remaining its always better to have equal if not more investment in toughness

in your case it probably isn't the worst to bump the regen if you aren't getting hit often

smite DOES give you space lmao

yeah idk if 17% even exist anymore, never seen one

XD

damn you thicc

idk if ill even hit 200 tbh

[fresh reef]

based or nah?

[rancid geyser]

better example, but psyker im realizing is a really safe class, and toughness generation is the main reason

[ornate hamlet]

Mettle nerf

https://tenor.com/view/screaming-seal-gif-25653837

[fresh reef]

this was standard damnation lol

[mossy oyster]

finally got to the point where you want to carry babies did ya (normal board)

[fresh reef]

yeh

more so I wasn't sure if the build would work well

[mossy oyster]

too much time spent in zealot chat

[fresh reef]

(it works really well)

[mossy oyster]

it looks like a fun build

[fresh reef]

the cleave on the slug is actually ridiculous

anytime there's blue on my screen I just pull out the agri and snipe the random unfortunate blue boi

[mossy oyster]

manstopper + warp splitting + true aim

im assuming

also the stupid amount of crit chance you get from scattershot

[nocturne dust]

me with a staff of blue flame:

[fresh reef]

does not do well in auric, lemme tell ya

clandestium moment

[rancid geyser]

nah just bad luck

go again

[mossy oyster]

there ya go

always test builds on auric damn

you need to see if it can pass the bullshit filter

[rancid geyser]

i would say that, but i feel like some build perform better in auric

[mossy oyster]

only talents get more leverage in auric

which I guess is "builds" by proxy

[nocturne dust]

inferno staff

[rancid geyser]

yeah but talents make the build

[mossy oyster]

shit like psykinetic aura is broken on HISTG

[rancid geyser]

.>

[nocturne dust]

inferno staff sucks on sedition

[mossy oyster]

im not arguing semantics

[rancid geyser]

yeah wildfire goes hard in auric

[nocturne dust]

what part of that is semantics

[mossy oyster]

psykinetic aura and the veteran specialist kill for CDR are broken in HISTG and maelstroms

doesnt make them less strong otherwise

they just get more leverage when shit is stupid

[cold ivy]

ogryn's bruiser in melee maelstrom, 4% cdr per elite is wild when every room has like 10 of them

[mossy oyster]

waaay more leverage

[nocturne dust]

it kinda does make them less strong

[rancid geyser]

literally

lmao

[nocturne dust]

when there are less things it can proc off of

lol

[rancid geyser]

no semantics needed

[mossy oyster]

no

those talents are broken and just get more leverage on higher modifiers

[rancid geyser]

literally stronger in the case that enables them more

thats logic

[nocturne dust]

I disagree.

[abstract rose]

Anyone able to help me do the private game only psyker penance?

[nocturne dust]

I mean, they're broken yes

[rancid geyser]

this isnt wrong but it doesnt defend them on being less strong outside of specific situations

[nocturne dust]

but they're not necessarily broken at lower levels. It matters less by virtue of everything necessarily being 'better' because it's easier to hit breakpoints and such, but still.

[lethal lagoon]

I like ur duck, so I'll help

[cold ivy]

i think the way to see it (mathematically) is that as the difficulty increases, the proportion of cdr you get from cd reduction talents is higher, compared to the default "1 second per second" that everyone gets normally

[lethal lagoon]

I'll invite you to a strike team in a min or two, gotta open the game.

[rancid geyser]

yeah talents get milage based on difficulty

[fresh reef]

it didn't lol

[abstract rose]

It's Barduck, from Duckball Z!

[fresh reef]

mainly just because the loops at Clandestium's starting area suck ass

[mossy oyster]

good luck looping with a FSword sibling

🐌

[rancid geyser]

i cant stack warp siphon if i go lower than heresy 😦

[fresh reef]

it's Deimos though

Deimos actually has good dodge stats

[mossy oyster]

is that an Fsword?

is that an Fsword?

[fresh reef]

Is that Nathaniel B?

[nocturne dust]

an Fsword
Grammar, heretic

[fresh reef]

Why are force swords bad for looping

[mossy oyster]

thats what i thought sibling

[cold ivy]

at low difficulty if you kill one specialist on vet every 30s, you're getting 36s of cdr every 30s, i.e. 16.6% of your CDR comes from specialists while the remaining comes from time passing

at high difficulty if you kill 5 specialists on vet every 30s, you're getting 60s of cdr every 30s, i.e. 50% of your CDR comes from specialists while the remaining comes from time passing

so the average percentage improvement provided by those CDR talents does increase as difficulty goes up

[fresh reef]

I do not get

[rancid geyser]

yup, stuff like that gets stronger because of milage via enablers

auric is the perfect breeding ground for success on talents that feed off of specials/elite kills especially

[mossy oyster]

I simply do not enjoy the speed of a FSword compared to a DS or especially a knife

knife is stupid at kiting

literally makes kiting braindead easy

[cold ivy]

perilous combustion, psykinetic aura, bruiser, tactical awareness are the big ones

ogryn plus fire shout psyker on melee only maelstrom is crazy amounts of cdr for the psyker if they can get a decent number of elite kills - just 4 elite kills becomes 30% cdr from 4 warp charges, plus 9% cdr per kill from psykinetic + bruiser for 66% cdr, and in each mini-engagement you're often killing 2x to 3x that number

[mossy oyster]

and I enjoy having speed on soyker

when im not in scriers

so mk6 knife is my beloved

[high pecan]

is there a way to see a weapons crot chance?

[mossy oyster]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/279

[rancid geyser]

wild fire as well and that one is any enemy which there are more of

[cold ivy]

yeah

[rancid geyser]

then the vet talent that gives elite damage as well, that indirectly gets better or maybe I should say more valuable

empowered psionic [overpowering soul]

warp siphon

[clear heath]

just got home
yeah so i definitely had warp charges
It's only somewhat reliable at 2+ stacks
Noticeable difference, but it's not that big of a deal for me. Sometimes it matters a little bit, sometimes not at all.

[rancid geyser]

yeah i checked it earlier 3 seconds diff is still something

with no stacks as well

[clear heath]

both choices are fine imo, but I just don't really care as much about crushers

[rancid geyser]

the hate for bulwarks is a valid argument from earlier so im not gunna lie -- worth considering

[clear heath]

yeah they take so long to kill

[fiery stratus]

Do duelling swords have the same mobility?

Id imagine

probably just the moveset thats the difference in the feel

[rancid geyser]

i think they do

at least the 1st and 3rd do

at 61%

[late sapphire]

It's stat dependent

The mk5 has mobility and defence, so it has longer dodges

[sacred crane]

mk2 is the coolest looking and makes you feel cool

mk4 if you want to be meta and snore mimimi

[rancid geyser]

if the cards are to be believed

[zinc vigil]

What's a good staff with the mastery update?

[barren lintel]

Inferno

[sacred crane]

yummy trauma blaze

[rancid geyser]

yes

[zinc vigil]

Did the fire staff get buffed?

I've mainly been using the surge staff

[rancid geyser]

use it

[barren lintel]

It has always been strong, but it got stronger

[rancid geyser]

lmb good now

better*

[zinc vigil]

Never really tried the fire staff, but I'll give it a try

Thanks for the advice!

[delicate dove]

Does anyone know if Empathic Evasion got nerfed? I thought it allowed for melee blessings like precognition to be activated? It doesn't seem to do that anymore

[rancid geyser]

i was told it was bugged

not sure

[proud frost]

is Charged Strike any good?

[unique mist]

on the inferno force staff, i've got crit chance, blaze away and warp nexus. what should my second perk be? i've got Unyielding on my old one, but not sure if it's still the play

[analog agate]

Flak

[rancid geyser]

its value compared to all the other talents is very low

i dont like saying things are bad

but this one i can make an exception

doesn't even work with enfeeble iirc

[proud frost]

thats what i was figuring

[nocturne dust]

exception*

[proud frost]

but i didnt know if it had some weird combination that made it good or something

[dusk void]

Guys, any suggestions on what to do with all this?

[nocturne dust]

Give it to me

I don't need it but you should do that anyway

[dusk void]

I wish I could

I only play like 2 psyker builds in the entire game and I'm not sure what to do next

[rancid geyser]

if fat shark are actually adamant about making things work as intended in comparison to what they did with Flay then we can hope at least enfeeble gets changed

then maybe Charged strike gains a modicum of viability

[nocturne dust]

get some variety

[flint pawn]

Uhhh.. use it to max out all the masteries on the other class weapons? 🤷‍♀️

[dusk void]

I have the surge staff build with smite (absolutely hate that build), the inferno build, and gunker build with the lasgun. But I mainly run the blaze trauma with either assail or brain rupture for constant success in auric missions (completed my 250 aurics, was a pain)

[lethal lagoon]

Get every mastery to 20

[nocturne dust]

no voidstrike?

[dusk void]

I don't like to play other classes. They are not as good as I play my psyker

[lethal lagoon]

Do it anyways

[flint pawn]

Just turn them into discount Psykers

[flint pawn]

Ogryn? Psyker but larger. Veteran? Psyker but slightly better with guns. Zealot? Psyker but too much preaching

[nocturne dust]

now do a surge scrierstrike build

[cinder dock]

Ogryn sized staff?

[flint pawn]

Veteran can even self destruct with the Plasma Gun, it's basically the same class.

[nocturne dust]

Some call it a pickaxe.

[cinder dock]

Yeah but my pickaxe can’t cast spells.

[dusk void]

But it uses ammo. I have gotten used to no ammo after 1000 hours

[nocturne dust]

Sure it can, it can cast rock and head bonk

[flint pawn]

of course it can, it casts the "Die" spell

[cinder dock]

I wish pickaxe let me whack a wall and get me rocks back faster.

[flint pawn]

this is kind of a based idea actually wtf

[cinder dock]

What’s y’all’s favorite staff? Mine is the bowling staff.

[potent echo]

#1158835513789272126 message

[nocturne dust]

Mine is all of them.

[dusk void]

Can I exchange that shotgun for this?

[flint pawn]

The unreleased Shield force staff Trauma, otherwise now known as Void..blast? I think

[cinder dock]

Circle staff?

[nocturne dust]

Ah yes, the 4 psyker staves: circle, ball, line, and cone

[flint pawn]

yes

[potent echo]

Perhaps

[halcyon summit]

did you know some french player here ?

[flint pawn]

Alright Psyker chat I'm going off the deep end.. I need to make tactical axe work

[fiery wigeon]

zap, boom, pew, fwoosh

[runic kiln]

lads im smashing out penances, scriers gaze + right keystone (Kill all the blue nerds). Whats the most efficient for it? doing well with accatran atm casue you just pick heads.

[pine sail]

I like the fire stick

[dusk void]

The boom staff

[proud frost]

i like being able to lob a voidstrike orb through a crowd at head height, and quell more peril than i used to shoot it with transfer peril

[flint pawn]

Nevermind I take it back I take it back, there is no saving this abomination

[pine sail]

Whats a good ranged weapon/build for using Smite and Telekine Shield together?

[dusk void]

Why the smite blitz tho?

[nocturne dust]

What if I told you.... battle meditation + empyric resolve does this without eating a blessing slot?

[pine sail]

I like it for brainless horde crowd control, it makes me feel safe

[proud frost]

yeah, but i'm bad and die enough without ER

[potent echo]

I just played ER EP smite yesterday

Delicious, yummy brainrot

[dusk void]

Recon Lasgun or the zappy staff (Electrokinetic staff) would be some of my suggestions

[pine sail]

ERP? 🤪

[potent echo]

EERP

Elevated ERP