#psyker-class

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jovial juniper
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Full bore + all fire pellets hitting

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+Flak

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3 shot maulers

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On a side note
The fire shot has 15 suppression value iirc

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Add that to the fire shot spread

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And you can supress a huge area from far away

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(for 1 or 2 seconds)

plucky flax
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12hp damage taken in chasm logistratum. I was trying for 0 hp after realising I didn't take damage after mid event. pepeHand

plucky flax
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He did take the most ammo.

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Maybe he was shooting the air.

radiant frigate
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the loathsome ammo eater

lethal lagoon
upper sun
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ranged maelstrom with 4 bubble psykers KEKW_ogryn

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only took damage resing people

lone wing
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my lowest is still 300. yeah im ass

upper sun
lone wing
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no i like having fun lol

upper sun
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thats your fault

nocturne dust
upper sun
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i need to use my defence deimos more

lyric burrow
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no you dont

nocturne dust
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yes you do

plucky flax
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@cosmic sigil up for some games later?

broken carbon
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block effeciency stam deflector deimos

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(i’ve seen this in a game before)

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(they put block and stam on themselves)

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they sucked

strong gulch
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Oh ho. 👀

noble prairie
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whats a good assail build?

strong gulch
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Are you level 30 or still leveling? If you are 30, assail is usually used with guns or voidstrike. A more balanced build (using not just assail) typically goes for DD (right side purple nodes). If you want to focus more on assail, take EP (middle purple nodes).

eager horizon
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They Talk about Knife Zealots.

They Talk about Gunkers.

mmmm, I'm gonna Knifker.

plucky flax
hardy flower
eager token
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rashad zealot too chad too beautiful too strong i’ll never go back to knife

upper sun
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rashad very week pls buff

radiant frigate
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rashad psyker interestingly enough not the worst thing i have ever seen

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with various power/finesse buffs it does a good job

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sg/dd/warp rider

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but also, the lack of attack speed makes it kind of ??

restive surge
# noble prairie whats a good assail build?

I run all on soul blaze , wildfire etcetera,.. then assail and trauma staff. And a knife for super speed.
Assail for elites dogs, trauma for big ones and horde, knife for posistioning.

plucky flax
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You can't take wildfire and assail.

cosmic sigil
radiant frigate
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"knife for positioning" is still such a cursed combination of words

plucky flax
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PM me on discord.

radiant frigate
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anyway i just got blasted off the map by a barrel (thank you zealot)

plucky flax
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Probably unintentional. SadgeCry

radiant frigate
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my punishment for playing dclaw

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aaand wipe

cosmic sigil
radiant frigate
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sg has no attack speed

cosmic sigil
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sg gives finesse

radiant frigate
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that it does

cosmic sigil
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and finesse impacts attack speed

radiant frigate
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no

cosmic sigil
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oO

radiant frigate
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finesse as a % bar stat on weapons does

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other than that finesse refers to crit/headshot multipliers

plucky flax
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It's okay you can get 10% attack speed soon.

cosmic sigil
radiant frigate
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otherwise this blessing sounds like it would be stupidly insane

cosmic sigil
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so you mean that the finesse you gain from scryer does not impact your finesse modifier?????

radiant frigate
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well it also specifically says "finesse damage"

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so, yes

cosmic sigil
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"finesse damage" > true,my bad

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so yeah, rashad feels slugish

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and mobility is okayish

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anyway i do better with a knife or a taxe

radiant frigate
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taxes are not real

cosmic sigil
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like death

radiant frigate
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true

plucky flax
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I wish tax was not real.

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RIP me money.

buoyant maple
buoyant maple
# cosmic sigil

Finesse is weakspot & crit damage
Only “finesse” in the 5 stat distribution impacts atk speed

cosmic sigil
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I am devastated

radiant frigate
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yes i have explained this

upper sun
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i hate taxes so much

radiant frigate
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taxes are stupid

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give me my goddamn money back, i barely make any to begin with

strong gulch
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finesse vs finesse damage

Thanks fatshark for the continued great naming of things.

cosmic sigil
radiant frigate
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(it is good fun once you get used to it)

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i wanna say scrier's is to shriek what infiltrate is to voc

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is it the best most versatile thing?

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perhaps not, but it has some juice to it

jovial juniper
buoyant maple
radiant frigate
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well yes

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i am saying if it did, it would be insane

jovial juniper
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While Precognition is finesse_modifier_bonus

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💀

cosmic sigil
buoyant maple
cosmic sigil
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so asail sg and dd with rashad and zarona

buoyant maple
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I’m gonna write precog as +M.fns because functionally it only works for melee attacks

jovial juniper
radiant frigate
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rashad and zarona has to be one of the least psyker weapon combinations out there

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right next to rashad laspistol

buoyant maple
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U can’t use any attack that can weakspot/crit hit other than melee attacks while it’s active so it being “T.fns” doesn’t change anything

cosmic sigil
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i think vent and warp charges would have worked better

radiant frigate
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i think i would like warp charges more if their base function was "get damage" rather than "spend to reduce cooldown"

jovial juniper
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I also like how Decapitator is called stacking_rending_on_one_hit_kill

cosmic sigil
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zarona does not care about crit node, and so does rashad

buoyant maple
jovial juniper
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I didn't pogryn

upper sun
radiant frigate
jovial juniper
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What if I go Trauma Thunderstrike whatthefuck_heresy

radiant frigate
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with sg less so

radiant frigate
jovial juniper
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Brittleness trauma staff is actually good though chad

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And Thunderous is the brittleness blessing

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Thunderstrike is like Skullcrusher but impact

near drift
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Flurry/rending shockwave trauma ain't as flashy as blaze trauma but it's okay

plucky flax
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It's equally as bad as blaze trauma if not even worse.

jovial juniper
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True, buff Trauma staff

verbal thistle
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So true bestie

near drift
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Oh yeah I forgot blaze trauma is trash and needs a buff silly me

verbal thistle
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Duh

strong gulch
lament sapphire
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Is there some kind of trick to doing untouchable

near drift
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I saw that

cosmic sigil
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cleaning my kb

radiant frigate
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what's untouchable

strong gulch
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Just found it.

upper sun
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i got it randomly when the penances came out

jovial juniper
radiant frigate
strong gulch
upper sun
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idk if they fixed it by now

strong gulch
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IDK

near drift
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Just play shout vet on low difficulty and yell whenever anything scary happens

upper sun
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but that one and bullseye i got randomly

strong gulch
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I've had it done forever so idk. I didn't take damaage when I got.

radiant frigate
strong gulch
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Anyways, regen toughness and stack over toughness. Ranged hit can tick down your toughness, but melee with make you take health damage.

buoyant maple
strong gulch
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pushes are 360 degrees but not push attacks

Edit: Had "pushes and push attacks are 360 degrees". I didn't pay attention to what I was actually typing.

radiant frigate
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blocks also yes

strong gulch
radiant frigate
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yw

jovial juniper
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Hmm
Wonder if it affects the power blast of the Crusher

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Probably not

plucky flax
jovial juniper
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Then it would be a legitimate build tkmistyping

cosmic sigil
plucky flax
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Claw? Hammer also has trauma.

buoyant maple
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Forgot

jovial juniper
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Hammer has tons of impact blessings staregryn

cosmic sigil
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real pic of a claw with impact blessings

broken carbon
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erm mods

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mods

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mods

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is that

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sex

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toy

upper sun
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reminder that this canonically was used on V if he/she had the audacity to get a job

broken carbon
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lol

upper sun
broken carbon
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yeah i know

upper sun
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that happens to look like a peeepeee

cosmic sigil
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it's a one handed club

upper sun
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shock maul weapon custimization when?

jovial juniper
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Sir Palustiff or something

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And the filtered version is like

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A coffee thermos

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?

normal matrix
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Do we dress our psykers like wizards or crackheads in the psyker channel

jovial juniper
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I have like 1 crackhead loadout

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The like two colors shirt

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Smite pants

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The basic mask

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Everything else is just moebian Blue chest

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Smite/red pants

strong gulch
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Unless this is for a penance, swap Kinetic Presence for Seer's Presence. You should grab PC (Perilous Combustion).

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But also, if you like your build, then cool beans.

cosmic sigil
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Achlys Mk VIII Combat Axe
Aligned the Heavy 2 and Heavy 3 attacks to the Heavy 1 attack profile. > does this mean they changed the moveset or just the dmg profile?

strong gulch
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Zealot chat might know.

restive surge
brazen rampart
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You'll be getting a lot more damage with shriek being up faster.

strong gulch
brazen rampart
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More shrieks = more soulblaze = more damage.

strong gulch
plucky flax
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DS2 meta coming soon.

strong gulch
plucky flax
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What? DS2 already does same damage with heavy 1?

jovial juniper
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Yeah

strong gulch
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Ye.

plucky flax
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What the hell? XD

jovial juniper
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That's why I've been advertising DS2 as of lately

plucky flax
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Should be OP for my voidstrike build.

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Since I need to horde clear with sword at times.

slender radish
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Is lingering influence glitched? I have the 10s node but my stacks disappear after 4s

cosmic sigil
strong gulch
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DS2 lights are faster and def horde clear better. The H2 is still weaker, but it also has some cleave.

plucky flax
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H2 is horizontal right?

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So it's the horde clear heavy.

cosmic sigil
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diagonalish

slender radish
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thanks!

plucky flax
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Let's see if that bitch hadron is going to give me a nice ds2.

jovial juniper
strong gulch
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The H1 S loop for big threats isn't too bad. If you use the special a lot on the DS4, it's not the much of a DPS loss.

cosmic sigil
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i am note sure achlys problem is one of dmg

jovial juniper
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Rampage is useable on the DS2 but just because of the H2

strong gulch
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For sure. Iirc, @plucky flax likes rampage on DS.

plucky flax
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Not perfect I want carapace rather than elite. Waiting for the 26th. nooooo

strong gulch
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Still tasty tho.

plucky flax
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Hrm even just light spam is better horde clear than ds4.

cosmic sigil
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Agent we shall play tomorrow

plucky flax
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It seems to attack faster.

strong gulch
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Yip. Wider and faster.

cosmic sigil
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how much did you spend?

plucky flax
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Yeah the heavy 2 angle is too acute. I think I'll just light spam.

jovial juniper
plucky flax
jovial juniper
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FS should link PA into H2 on the DS2

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Just saying

plucky flax
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I wish it was more horizontal.

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Since the light is already pretty acute.

upper sun
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malcador the sigillite himself was gonna teach me the secrets of the imperium

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BUT HE LEFT 😭

brazen rampart
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That was all he could muster before the golden throne fried him.

upper sun
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what an asshole 😭

cosmic sigil
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End of Bequin trilogy when?

upper sun
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i just hope to live long enough to see what big thing happens next

plucky flax
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Double barrel voidstrike.

upper sun
cosmic sigil
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Neckbeards are gonna get madge when the star child will be reincarnated in a woman.

upper sun
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IVE BEEN GETTING EDGED FOR YEARS

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JUST TELL ME WHATS GONNA HAPPEN REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

cosmic sigil
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Let me tell you about the 13 years I have waited for the penultimate volume of ASOIAF

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I probably won't see the ending.

lethal lagoon
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Just use the fantastic TV show as the ending

cosmic sigil
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But I am sure AI will finish it for us

lethal lagoon
upper sun
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at least they revealed the king in yellow and we know hes a loyalist

lethal lagoon
upper sun
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fuck you

cosmic sigil
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There is a lot of explaining to do with it

upper sun
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the day ||constantin valdor|| turns will be the end of the imperium

lethal lagoon
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Just know my facial expression in real life is literally this

cosmic sigil
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Like how did he become the KIY?

upper sun
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no one told you to stop making that face or itll get stuck?

upper sun
lethal lagoon
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They did, so I kept making it even more cause I thought that'd be funny.

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That sure backfired on my teacher.

upper sun
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also

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unironically thats an actual weapon

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psybomb are made with golden throne by-product

cosmic sigil
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By-product lol

upper sun
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errr technically theyre called "Psych-Out"

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lame

bleak maple
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Average heresy with psykers (I was also a psyker)

halcyon gust
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The average none tagging experience (Why the tox bomber lives longer than .5 seconds and oh god the map smells like Taco Bell)

broken carbon
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the diaper thrower

raw coral
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fart chucker

upper sun
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me rn fr fr

restive ice
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you're either a smart fella or a fart smella

upper sun
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im both rn

brazen rampart
upper sun
brazen rampart
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Fart smella.

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Immortalized.

upper sun
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i just farted

near drift
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thank you for your fart service

upper sun
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🫡

ornate hamlet
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Me when my ass catches on fire during the naked breakdancing competition in the Four Kings arena in Dark Souls: Prepare to Die Edition

inland lichen
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Question, what was the best map to complete the cliffhanger penance for you guys?

burnt steppe
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Do yall know if smites buffs apply to lightning staff? (mainly the whole extra jump thing)

broken carbon
broken carbon
normal matrix
burnt steppe
burnt steppe
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kk thank you, assail is good for clearing the chaff right?

nocturne dust
viscid matrix
strong gulch
viscid matrix
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Smite is good at crowd comtrol

nocturne dust
strong gulch
viscid matrix
nocturne dust
strong gulch
viscid matrix
strong gulch
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Surge surge lmb main with cleave talent let's go

nocturne dust
nocturne dust
viscid matrix
nocturne dust
viscid matrix
blissful solar
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anyone know if "finesse damage" applies to warpfire damage?

nocturne dust
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I mean I'd like the rmb to surge surge

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but Fatshark does strange things

strong gulch
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I am trying to type and get a thought our but it is not working. Word retrieval is failing me hard.

ashen schooner
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INSTRUCTION UNCLEAR: SURGE ON SURGE STAFF NOW MAKES SMITE SHOOT DOUBLE LIGHTNING

strong gulch
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Trauma rmb/ channel doesn't count as ranged damage for the +5% ranged damage talent node.

Maybe that has something to so with surge not working on trauma rmb.

brazen rampart
strong gulch
blissful solar
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gotcha, makes sense

strong gulch
upper galleon
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Damn potato got it

nocturne dust
late sapphire
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I regularly outperform everything else with surge

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Might just be me though

nocturne dust
late sapphire
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I think it's actually better than void

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At least i wouldn't call it worst

nocturne dust
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Now that is a take I disagree with wholeheartedly

late sapphire
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The essence of surge is not 'take out specials' or 'dont aim'

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It's 'keep firing'

nocturne dust
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Eh, yeah, but you don't need to keep firing when the enemies are dead, and that's what void do

late sapphire
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You aim in so far as picking out elites in a crowd goes, sure, but in every situation as long as anything is within 24m you can permanently maintain peak output without pausing

nocturne dust
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I don't see how that's different from trauma or void, except void doesn't have the range issue

late sapphire
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Complexities reduce output

nocturne dust
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In fact, void is better because rather than picking out elites, you just bowl your way through everything between you and the elite

late sapphire
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With void or trauma you have to spend time aiming and it's fairly hard to immediately swap targets

nocturne dust
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I mean, I can easily do it within the charge time necessary to kill the thing

late sapphire
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Within the charge time yes

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With surge you don't even need to wait for the 'next charge' perse

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I can be blasting a crusher, hear a special behind, turn around with the surge already going, and in the turning motion itself the guy dies and i go back to business

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Idk maybe if you learned how to surge at high performance you'd get what i'm conveying intuitively

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Instead of talking shit about a staff you haven't experienced the intricacies of

nocturne dust
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Lol

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I've used every staff a lot

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Except trauma, I don't like that one at all

late sapphire
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Clearly you used surge incorrectly then ;)

nocturne dust
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Uh huh

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Well first you're assuming I don't know what you mean, but I do. I get surge lets you just rapidfire and ease your brain, but the thing is there's no real need to? Like, what else will you do if not aim while using your staff

late sapphire
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No, it's not about 'just rapidfiring' or 'just easing your brain'

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You do still have do aim, arguably as much as with other staves if you're going for kills for pc in a complicated situation

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It's that the aiming mechanism is different and you have a certain freedom of action the other staves dont have

nocturne dust
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Sure, but... just increase your mouse sensitivity?

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Like, idk how that freedom really does anything for the player that the player can't compensate for with skill

late sapphire
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Nothing does anything you can't compensate for with skill

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You can clear the game with a white shovel and nought else

left hare
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For void staff do you need to full charge the ball

nocturne dust
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Well, yes, but I mean this freedom you're talking about in particular is 'basic skills everyone should have'

left hare
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Or just partial charge headshot for flak

late sapphire
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You are thinking of something different from me i think

nocturne dust
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Maybe.

late sapphire
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I dunno i guess i am trying to convey something fairly ephemeral and i am tired

nocturne dust
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I mean, idk do you have a video that can help explain or something?

crisp yacht
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or close to full

late sapphire
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Surge might also just kinda suck and i'm really good at using it idk

nocturne dust
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It also depends on your staff's stats, void can easily work with a number of stats and +flak is a thing you could or could not have

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Generally, you don't need to full charge for most low HP specials at least

nocturne dust
strong gulch
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Surge is good, but it is a different style of doing things. It is for fast and impatient action.

Surge could also be considered a PC and creeping flames enabler.

On it's own, it isn't as strong as trauma or void, but it also kinda sits is a different place.

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I've heard other classes call surge staff the most morally correct staff because it doesn't blind people or knock things around/ over.

nocturne dust
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lol

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Yet they complain about smite, smh my head

late sapphire
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One of my favourite things about surge is that it lets me keep and eye on the surroundings and interrupt anything within 25m immediately

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I've saved so many vets from crusher overheads it's not even funny

strong gulch
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tbf, bad smite users displace or stop enemies in bad places

late sapphire
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You can do the sameish with void or trauma but the margin of error is much smaller and you have to react before it happens

nocturne dust
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I mean, yeah voidstrike requires weakspot hits but that's pretty easy with a bowling ball

strong gulch
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I remember when surge hit like 6 targets and was way more CC (could guarantee stun mutants on first hit), and people complained about the same things that they complain about smite.

late sapphire
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Old surge was kind of dookie yeah

strong gulch
late sapphire
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Not enough damage to kill stuff that well not enough cc to properly control hordes

strong gulch
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but people stick shocked the horde

late sapphire
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Keep in mind yknow surge was so good they had to limit its range

atomic swan
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no
old surge can one shot gunner
people just dont do fully charge

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spamming it crazy and said its for CC

strong gulch
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gunners have more hp now

nocturne dust
broken carbon
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i see that all the time and i dont get it

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i also dont use surge

restive ice
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i don’t like looking at the charge animation

spice veldt
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clearly a fidget spinner needs to be attached to the side of the surge staff

restive ice
atomic swan
late sapphire
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Next psyker tree man

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-40% peril gen gonna elevate my surging to a new level

strong gulch
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You need flak + elite and a full charge to kill the scab gunner. It still doesn't one shot the dreg gunner. Also with surge's random damage and needing crits to kill stuff, it can be hit or miss on shotgunners without the elite perk.

broken carbon
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i need 2 test the surge random damage

late sapphire
spice veldt
late sapphire
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But yeah the breakpoints on surge are kinda eh

broken carbon
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surge needs 2 get buffed

atomic swan
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if we are talking about old surge, can we discuss it with old gunner HP as well

strong gulch
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It's not a huge window, but it's enough to where a trapper lives without maniac on a low roll. A lot of stuff is a full charge then a partial or a primary.

broken carbon
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maybe with the buff to malefic momentum

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melee with surge weaved into it

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might be good?

strong gulch
latent mauve
spice veldt
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i continue to wait for a laser staff

broken carbon
late sapphire
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I hope they add coruscation staff

broken carbon
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immediately

late sapphire
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objectively best vt staff

spice veldt
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stab somebody for malefic and crack of bone and go ham with holding lmb

broken carbon
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explode stinker

spice veldt
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we shall have a rapidfire single-target dps weapon where you can feel incremental damage increases instead of living in breakpoint city

latent mauve
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None of the staffs need buffs

late sapphire
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Buff surge

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Buff surge now

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Buff blaze trauma as well uncap the stacks free my brethren

spice veldt
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die

nocturne dust
nocturne dust
wind spruce
nocturne dust
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Void needs a buff

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Give it the ability to stagger god

broken carbon
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surge needs a buff, void needs a massive nerf, trauma is fine, could use a small nerf to explosion radius, purg is fine once uncanny gets nerfed

latent mauve
broken carbon
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was really easy

latent mauve
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Or if I will simply explode from rage 500 hours in

wind spruce
late sapphire
latent mauve
late sapphire
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should go through walls as well

broken carbon
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the only thing i could agree with is stopping on carapace

late sapphire
late sapphire
latent mauve
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Nah, solo

broken carbon
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but if you remove fire's cleave then you nerf flamers and purg enormously

spice veldt
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infinite cleave is silly because it scales with density

broken carbon
late sapphire
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sort of

spice veldt
late sapphire
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the bulwark still dies

spice veldt
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you can still give it high cleave

broken carbon
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they inflict burn onto one bulwark

latent mauve
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Void could do work with the specials but psykers base is so bad in comparison to vet or zealot

broken carbon
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idk

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i think flamers are in a good spot right now

wind spruce
spice veldt
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making enemy hitmass actually matter to purg or adding some falloff would be nice, because the limited range is just not a meaningful detriment in a game like this and with psyker's toolkit

broken carbon
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they do their job well, and they cant kill carapace

broken carbon
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i kind of wish the direct impact of the purg and flamer actually did useful damage

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if they reduced cleave but made the impact of the flame deal damage

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id like that actually

nocturne dust
broken carbon
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would help make the flames feel a lot more physical

spice veldt
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my brain has been rotted by the amount of people that i have seen complaining about its range

nocturne dust
strong gulch
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I fear cosmetic changes to our tools. surge smite flashbacks

potent echo
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Purg technically has cleave and falloff

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Direct damage i think

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Although the burn suppression goes through all

silent socket
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Me using the close range psyker staff as a melee weapon (magic scawwy)

wind spruce
nocturne dust
wind spruce
nocturne dust
orchid shadow
potent echo
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hey they actually managed to res you pogryn

wind spruce
wind spruce
jovial juniper
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So like, M2 has no suppression

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M1 better next time

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💀

atomic swan
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can nurgle blessed enemies be suppressed?

potent echo
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oh yea perhaps

wind spruce
wind spruce
ornate hamlet
lone wing
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would you look at that
he's dead

wind spruce
#

stupid heretic

lone wing
#

psykers may indeed hold a holy purpose...if pressed

jovial juniper
jovial juniper
radiant frigate
#

clearly you should have brought scriers and EE

copper jay
#

why this karking force sword block push give peril !! x) what a shitty way to explode

radiant frigate
#

scrier's moment

copper jay
#

don't have scrier

#

but yeah can't use a force sword with scier or you would go boom

#

which is sad

radiant frigate
#

you can, actually

#

but watch out

copper jay
#

not that much

#

i did try some time but even through you don't use you're speciale the block push will kill you

radiant frigate
#

just the push attack

#

pushes are ok

copper jay
#

it still cancerous

#

we can use it with normal weapon but du to this weapon generating peril on block push you can't

radiant frigate
#

force sword push attack also staggers anything smaller than a boss

#

at range even

copper jay
#

even throug it shouldn't make you boom

#

smite left don't
brain burst don't even at 100%
and kinetic deflection don't work at critical peril

#

just the different way spyker can go boom are so inconsistent

radiant frigate
#

below 97% is the safe zone

#

kinetic deflection only ever gets you to 97%

#

finishing a cast when you were already at 100 beforehand will make you explode

#

charging and cancelling is fine

#

with staffs you will also explode if you charge up to 100 and then let it go

thin finch
atomic swan
copper jay
radiant frigate
#

smite is also stupid

copper jay
#

half the classe is stupid or badly designed even through its the second best after the vet in my opinion

#

or bugged

#

or unbalenced

atomic swan
#

badly design maybe, but i would like to say lack of variety

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especially ogryn and zealot

radiant frigate
#

not too fond of ogryn

elder wasp
#

y'all got any tips for quell cancelling beause by sigmar i am really struggling getting it consistently

spice veldt
#

have a good keybind for it i suppose

#

i have my reload on [V] so that i can do it while moving in any direction

#

probably won't be good if you still have your dodge on space though

elder wasp
#

hmmm alright

#

i feel like i need more fingers for this

nocturne dust
#

Someday I'll learn to quell cancel

upper sun
#

q m1 q m1(really fast)

nocturne dust
#

Yeah but my fingies

upper sun
#

iktfb

#

i cant even do it reliably

elder wasp
#

people who can quell cancel reliably are an endangered species

upper sun
#

We’ll be having an Itemization Overview dev blog with more details coming out this week should everything go as planned. I’ll tell ya now though, the general advice will be to keep your guns so they can be sacrificed. When it comes to the amount of blessings, if you have all of T4 and about 1/3 of T3, you will already be maxed out at mastery for that weapon family.

upper sun
atomic swan
elder wasp
#

true

strong gulch
#

Blitz cancel. That I cannot do.

atomic swan
#

imo you dont need machine gun left click
although its fun

strong gulch
#

I can't reliably do m1 quell cancel, but at least that is doable.

atomic swan
#

few quell cancels are enough for you to stagger or suppress enemies
than do your right click

elder wasp
#

sometimes i can do like 3 or more m1 quell cancels in a row but it just falls apart after that

strong gulch
#

M1 quell cancel is less "needed" now since the speed increase to staff fire rate.

#

Trauma rmb quell cancel tho, do it.

elder wasp
#

i've been messing around with trauma quell cancelling and i'm either failing horribly or can't tell if it makes it faster or not

atomic swan
#

for example, few left click flame to create space, than start charging for horde clear

strong gulch
#

It is faster. However, if you can't do it reliably, you're better off not doing it.

edit: about trauma rmb

elder wasp
#

ah alright, from what you said earlier it seems it's significantly faster too?

strong gulch
#

idk why that extra text got copyied

elder wasp
#

ah alright, thank you very much

strong gulch
#

The video is older and shows how slow the m1s used to be. How did we live with that??

elder wasp
#

yeah good god

strong gulch
#

ye

plucky flax
#

Pls change mk2 ds h2 to fully horizontal nooooo

upper sun
#

sir

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how are you gonna slash with a ds

#

it has zero mass

plucky flax
#

It's a vanguard attack and with rampage that's op

upper sun
#

ur ignoring physics

#

itll just bend

plucky flax
#

It's 40k physics.

upper sun
#

put warp in there and you have a deal

strong gulch
#

DS2 H2 is def weird. At the very least wtf is that wrist angle?

mental grail
#

It's not an estoc, it has a cutting edge.

upper sun
#

Its wrong

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its skinny

#

it bends

#

it only has compressive strength

#

when theyres more of a ductile metal the more it bends

#

looking at a pov ds stab its just a dot

#

swords also bend on the opposite sides of the cutting edge

#

you cant slash with a rapire

#

i mean you kinda can

#

but you cant use it like a heavy sword

plucky flax
#

It's not a rapier.

#

It's a saber.

mental grail
#

I've literally slashed things open with this.

plucky flax
#

Also rapier still has a sharp cutting edge though.

mental grail
#

In real life

#

It's a US Cavalry saber

#

This is a Maccabean saber.

#

Slashing is very capable for both weapons.

upper sun
#

thats a saber

upper sun
mental grail
#

Maccabean swords are sabers.

upper sun
mental grail
#

It's in the flavor text.

upper sun
#

can you show me the default ds4 skin?

mental grail
#

"Most Imperial swords are simple, heavy affairs, designed for the unskilled NCO to use with lethal effect. Not so Maccabian sabres, which require years of practice to master."

strong gulch
#

That is the default mk2 skin

mental grail
#

^ literally darktide

#

They're sabers.

strong gulch
#

it's different than the mk4

upper sun
#

okie

#

i stand corrected

#

ds4 is fine

#

ds2 is not

#

they should be different families then

mental grail
upper sun
#

and idk how someone would "duel" with a saber

mental grail
#

?

#

Are you being serious?

upper sun
#

they shouldnt call it a duelling sword

mental grail
#

Sabers have been used for duels all the time.

#

They aren't poor dueling weapons by any means.

upper sun
#

"During the 17th and 18th centuries (and earlier), duels were mostly single combats fought with swords (the rapier and later the small sword),"

#

pretty sure rapiers were mostly used during duels

plucky flax
upper sun
#

sabers are more of a horesback weapon

mental grail
#

The Model 1860 I used was literally designed with fencing and duels in mind, making it an actually poor Cavalry saber.

upper sun
#

im talking about whats most common

mental grail
#

You're talking about things you might not know the whole truth of.

strong gulch
#

Rapiers is a broad term. What little it know is that a lot of them are beefier than what you'd picture.

upper sun
#

sabers didnt even originate in europe

mental grail
upper sun
#

do you think duels also came with it or were they there before?

mental grail
#

The 19th century is when sabers were used more for fencing and academic duels.

#

The fall of cavalry in its traditional role forced the switch.

#

Sabers became less useful with multi-shot revolvers.

#

So they became lighter and lighter over time, seen more as an article of dress than a primary weapon.

plucky flax
#

Duelling was always a thing wut

mental grail
#

Dueling sabers as a sport became a particular fad in the 19th century.

#

Not saying they weren't dueled before, mind you.

upper sun
vivid epoch
thin finch
upper sun
#

i understand but dont like it

#

you get the most cutting force from striking with a saber using the belly

#

i dont think it would make a good weapon for horizontal sweeps

sturdy tendon
strong gulch
#

noted

bad spot

sturdy tendon
#

I hate Hourglass

brazen rampart
jovial juniper
#

Lmao

potent echo
#

Why did the mutant throw you forward whatthefuck_heresy

hexed geyser
#

I stopped trying to get A.S.S after the 3rd death like that

halcyon gust
#

Oh boy pain

plucky flax
#

You can do it in auric.

halcyon gust
#

16 books is always a auto rotate through and 6 deathless runs depends on mood

plucky flax
#

1-2-veg in silo cluster NOOO

#

Welcome to real warp hell.

upper sun
#

the start and end staregryn

plucky flax
#

Let's see if my team and I can survive.

stuck sinew
# upper sun it has zero mass

I find this kinda funny considering just about every blade in Darktide (DS included) is impractically chonky compared to real swords

potent echo
#

big = cool chadgryn

plucky flax
#

Hrm wiped at end event. The vet went down then ogryn went down trying to save him. nooooo

broken carbon
brazen rampart
#

Swords that don't bend, snap.

broken carbon
#

the reason sabers are curved is to be better at cutting

brazen rampart
#

Kinda how metallurgy works.

broken carbon
#

(and the side benefit of being able to work around guards)

#

sabers will only bend a significant amount when they collide with something hard, like another blade, a shield, or armor

brazen rampart
#

Then they bend back. (most of the time)

broken carbon
#

yarp

#

saber dueling was very common

#

hema has an entire subsect dedicated to it

brazen rampart
#

I wouldn't know, I only practiced with polearms and the longsword.

broken carbon
#

erm

#

what a nerd

#

(i wanna do hema very badly)

brazen rampart
#

Really funny to have your gourd get rang by a poleaxe without dying.

broken carbon
#

boonk

brazen rampart
#

Instant pounding headache from hell.

broken carbon
brazen rampart
#

Of course, we were using actual weapons.

#

Goofy.

#

You think I'd get hit in the head without one?

broken carbon
#

it was a callback

brazen rampart
broken carbon
#

stupid stinky

brazen rampart
#

Don't talk to me about stink.

#

Stink Queen.

broken carbon
#

do u have that favorited at all times

#

just ready to go

brazen rampart
#

It's like the 4th image back in my camera roll.

#

Really easy to just grab and post.

brazen rampart
broken carbon
#

LMAO

brazen rampart
#

It's in your notes.

broken carbon
#

pawesome

brazen rampart
#

hiss

stuck sinew
#

Nurgle's greatest warrior

crisp yacht
#

Grats! Been using the trauma surge I got the other day and it's been slappin

orchid shadow
#

Aw Hahnda, where'd you go? I was like, woot! And then I went, aww. 😦

marsh briar
lethal lagoon
#

Flak and 5% crit chance for Blaze Trauma

#

For Trauma Surge, well that's a meme, so if you have to ask you probably shouldn't be memeing just yet.

crisp yacht
# marsh briar what's the good perks on trauma ?

If running a blaze trauma(which you should be) crit is most important perk. 2nd probably flak. Killing a group of shotgunners and seeing everything die around it with perilous combustion is all the dopamine.

lethal lagoon
#

Flak is BiS for Surge, Purg, and Trauma. They all hit "body" and flak covers the most important and frequent bodies.

upper sun
#

yeah

lethal lagoon
#

ye

upper sun
#

most enemies are registered as flak for central mass

#

like atlas said purge, surge trauma and all damage over time types target that

lethal lagoon
#

Everyone knows to become a heretic you have to register the body armor type of your central mass with the Warp Authoritarian Party(WAP)

upper sun
#

horrible post 😡

crisp yacht
#

And I have to use it cause locks. QQ

upper sun
#

make a new one chadgryn

#

surge bad

lethal lagoon
#

I don't see how wasting a blessing slot on having your LMB get double shots on rare occassion is a not a meme

crisp yacht
#

It's constant 5% crit for blazing. And I can use left click and take out lone high value targets pretty effectively

upper sun
#

it could be a constant 20% crit

lethal lagoon
#

Warp nexus is a consistent 16-20% crit?

crisp yacht
#

Yea

lethal lagoon
#

Like okay, you can't edge like a pro, you can still lazy edge

#

Still way better

restive ice
#

5 > 20

lethal lagoon
#

Plus you have to edge for warp rider anyways

#

It's not like you are edgeing just for warp nexus

#

There's also 20% damage.

#

And with quietutde edging also basically extends your toughness bar by 30-40%

#

Cause you can quell it all anytime

upper sun
#

its tru im quelling rn

lethal lagoon
#

I'm literally quelling

crisp yacht
#

All true. I said above it is worse. Will change it with crafting update. 😭

lethal lagoon
#

It's not worse, it's a meme

upper sun
#

crafting update will fix it chadgryn

lethal lagoon
#

My decayed body is prepared for this game to finally release out of early access

upper sun
#

ikr

#

ive been blessingmaxxing for months in anticipation

lethal lagoon
#

I still bet you are going to play for like 3 hours after the patch and then quit.

patent hatch
#

Decided to come back to the game after a long ass break, is the good old Surge Staff Asail fire build still any good?

upper sun
#

i had faith FAITH

lethal lagoon
upper sun
#

i havent changed gear in 400 hours

lethal lagoon
#

I mean Surge staff is strong with shriek, so I guess though.

lethal lagoon
lethal lagoon
#

Shit is indeed a correct descriptor for your smell.

upper sun
#

wow

#

mean

#

soooooo

#

anyone know how helpful revive speed actually is?

lethal lagoon
#

I still don't know if revive spd is for me or them.

upper sun
#

its for your team

#

how quickly you help them

mossy oyster
#

it only works for people down on the ground

#

and that’s it iirc

upper sun
#

ye

#

but how much time does it shave off?

mossy oyster
#

I think 3 max level ones shave off a full second? don’t quote me on it though

upper sun
#

shit thats bad

lethal lagoon
#

^ I'm literally quoting you next time someone asks about this.

mossy oyster
#

it’s good if you’re oggy imo

#

other than that

#

nop

lethal lagoon
#

I feel like it's good on anything but Oggy

upper sun
#

ye i have one free perk slot for zealot since i have 3x hp+toughness and 2x gunner

lethal lagoon
#

Cause Oggy doesn't need the extra spd

fresh reef
#

blaze trauma very underpowered, pls buff

upper sun
#

idk what to use the last one on

mossy oyster
#

oggy can abuse the extra speed

#

not that he needs it

#

he just abuses it the best

upper sun
#

corruption resist like cole said seems like the best option

fresh reef
#

(I'm a dumbass and manually set my paging size a month ago. no issue until now lol)

upper sun
#

its on zealot tho

mossy oyster
#

statement still stands

upper sun
#

yeah

#

ill try stamina in a game today then

mossy oyster
#

I’ll post my curios when I get on in a bit

#

I use em on every zealot build but Marty

upper sun
#

😠

#

how about the marty curios

#

i only play marty

lethal lagoon
#

That's not nice, they put in a lot of hard work and effort into the talent trees. You should play more builds.

fresh reef
#

she's a little stupid

mossy oyster
#

I run 2 wound curios and 17 toughness

lethal lagoon
#

You really do have every helm

lethal lagoon
#

BUT

upper sun
#

i bricked every hp and 17 toughness curio i got on zealot

mossy oyster
upper sun
#

i will not play momentum or BP until the crafting update comes out

mossy oyster
lethal lagoon
#

How do you brick a curio when you only need to roll 1 thing that's okay.

upper sun
#

dogs xp curio chance

fresh reef
#

the drip goes insane

upper sun
#

mutant grim hounds

mossy oyster
#

Moebian chest is underrated on psyker just look at the fucking cool hand tubes

upper sun
#

hounds block bombers

mossy oyster
#

🗣️

lethal lagoon
upper sun
#

i bricked 7/8 stamina 3 curios on psyker like that

#

and had a mental breakdown

mossy oyster
#

my new psyker drip I’ve got recently has to be my favorite loadouts I’ve made so far

upper sun
#

imagine getting hounds and mutants 7 times

lethal lagoon
#

It's mostly the helmet

upper sun
#

i wanted to kill someone

#

still do

lethal lagoon
#

Everyone knows main characters show their faces

mossy oyster
lethal lagoon
#

And their stylized hollywood perfect hair

mossy oyster
lethal lagoon
#

Soulblaze doesn't aggro deamonhosts, it just gives you the aggro if someone else aggros it.

brazen rampart
upper sun
#

IM STEALING YOUR COFFEE AND PUTTING IN THE WRONG AMOUNT OF MILK IN IT

mossy oyster
#

me giving clad ptsd

brazen rampart
#

I was like "buddy, watch out with the smite." and he didn't stop in time.

#

Woke the dh up, died to it, and then dc'd.

lethal lagoon
#

Smite follows similar rules It won't pull the DH. It'll just give you aggro priority if someone else pulls it.

fresh reef
#

me having actually good drip for once? idk, I'm considering it

mossy oyster
#

I was playing with unepic one time and our smiteker said kite them over here so I don’t wake up the DH

brazen rampart
mossy oyster
#

silly little smitekers

lethal lagoon
#

Yeppers

brazen rampart
#

Still, total smiteker death.

mossy oyster
cosmic sigil
lethal lagoon
#

I mean it will "wake" it up, so it does make it easier to aggro.

fresh reef
#

I retract all of my negative opinions about kinetic deflection being a crutch

mossy oyster
#

I will show you some fellow drip later

fresh reef
#

you guys know that one long bring at Archivum Sycorax?

mossy oyster
upper sun
#

I had one dude in light out wake up 2 dhs and die to them

mossy oyster
upper sun
#

we spent most of the game as a trio

mossy oyster
#

or the green one where they run down a bridge

fresh reef
#

had a DH spawn back there in the corner, and it was surrounded by gunners

mossy oyster
#

while you wait for an elevator

fresh reef
upper sun
#

what

#

in the end event area?

fresh reef
#

one special spawning door on the left

mossy oyster
#

oooh I think I have an idea but I need to see the map

#

unironically

#

anyways you were telling a story

fresh reef
#

hang on lemme get a screen of one of skudie's clips, it's the same map

upper sun
#

unironically tho

jovial juniper
mossy oyster
#

clad

upper sun
#

why dont we get bosses and dhs in event areas

#

even outside of maelstrom

mossy oyster
#

where is the map quiz cards you were supposed to make

brazen rampart
upper sun
#

working on it

#

i just have a few things to do these weeks and cant play as much 😭

#

speaking of which

#

gotta go make dinner

fresh reef
#

this bridge

upper sun
fresh reef
#

had a DH spawn far, on the left side

jovial juniper
#

Called it

fresh reef
#

surrounded by gunners

#

figured somebody was gonna aggro it at some point via suppression, so I decided to aggro it myself with BB

mossy oyster
#

oh

fresh reef
#

tanked it KD and our chad of an ogryn mined it to death while I sat in a corner

#

genuinely massive KD value

mossy oyster
#

KD + a knife = permanent DH kiting

fresh reef
#

real

mossy oyster
#

also that is one fucked up spawn haha

fresh reef
#

the unmatched swagger of an EP BB user

mossy oyster
#

I actually got lucky and got the black version of that hat

#

it’s reaaally good

#

(That’s because you can slap black on a lot of clothes/cosmetics and it just goes together)

fresh reef
#

I think this is it

#

my most utterly dreanged build yet

eager horizon
#

Are psykers getting braced autoguns in the next patch?

crisp yacht
fresh reef
mossy oyster
#

i used scriers void staff

fresh reef
#

(this build will be much better post patch lol)

mossy oyster
#

(I did not abuse it in a melee maelstrom to 1 shot 6 maulers)

brazen rampart
#

Get your kills, when scrier's wears off, use trauma.

#

Quite easy.

crisp yacht
#

So never using staff while scriers is ticking up? Seems like one charged thingy would take you to 100

brazen rampart
#

I mean, I run assail scrier's with void, and I never use the staff while using scrier's.

#

I do use assail, though.

fresh reef
#

the ideal is to stack it with the new +5% crit on soulblaze kill with the node on scrier's that prevents you from exploding

Ascendant Blaze but on crack

crisp yacht
#

Mmm

brazen rampart
#

I get one good cleave in with illisi to get true aim, pop scrier's, throw an assail dart, and repeat.

eager horizon
eager horizon
eager horizon
#

I don't quite like the idea of a "safety" node, but if you can otherwise spec to make the resulting explosion more potent then I'm all for the memery

fresh reef
#

and I will gladly accept the challenge of having to play with a sub 100k damage player KEKW_ogryn

fresh reef
eager horizon
#

Ah, I cannae recall the blog post very well, so I should probably hold judgement till the patch

fresh reef
#

the one above EP makes you take corruption damage when you explode, but you don't go down instantly

#

the Scrier's node prevents you from exploding at all for 10 seconds after Scrier's ends

#

basically the same playstyle as overloading when you have Shriek available, but better

eager horizon
#

I see. Hmm. I wonder how that'll play out in the new psyker meta

#

But if there were nodes that buffed the self-detonation I myself might be keen to try it. But otherwise I'll probably be skippin' that particular talent

fresh reef
#

seems to be no nodes that buff the damage

#

just a crutch for newer psykers

burnt steppe
#

Any melee recommendations?

fresh reef
burnt steppe
#

its not bad, but not sure how good it is at crowd clearing

fresh reef
#

Illisi is the king of chaff clear for psyker, though rampage DS4 also does work against poxxers

burnt steppe
#

the blaze force sword V?

fresh reef
#

I think? I don't remember marks for the force swords

restive ice
#

psyker bayonet chadgryn

vernal temple
#

(wrong screenshot the frist time lol). is this good for a gun psyker or just stick to accatran?

fresh reef
#

psyker plasma gun 🤤

burnt steppe
#

any stats youd prioritize?

fresh reef
fresh reef
burnt steppe
fresh reef
#

def not for illisi

#

force swords have pretty bad dodge distance so mobility isn't a huge concern

burnt steppe
#

yo which curio stats would yall suggest? cus theres no "reduced peril" or anything

#

combat ability regen?

fresh reef
#

ability regen is goated, yes

#

other than that it's pretty much just personal preference

#

everything is good, save for the special resistances

burnt steppe
#

yeah so health or toughness