psyker-class

[broken carbon]

i can’t be trusted after making them

[lethal lagoon]

I like how slow you type, I have time for emotes

[broken carbon]

i will eat like half the pan then explode

[broken carbon]

i type fast?!??!

[lethal lagoon]

[broken carbon]

well

relatively speaking

i’m on my phone lol

[runic summit]

Manage your baker's peril better

[broken carbon]

LMFAOOOO

[lethal lagoon]

Phone typers are the best typers

[broken carbon]

that was actually really clever lmfao

[lethal lagoon]

Explode into a different kind of pan?

[broken carbon]

no i just explode into a mix of gore and chocolate

[lethal lagoon]

[broken carbon]

[runic summit]

Looking back
It's rather silly
For way too long i ran surge staff with head pop/shriek, and a mk 4 blaze sword

No such thing as crowd control 🗣️🗣️

[broken carbon]

i think

[lethal lagoon]

Dangerous

[broken carbon]

rude

[broken carbon]

that the raw damage shriek

should be changed

to be shorter range

but brain burst everyone in the range

with a longer cooldown

or like

[lethal lagoon]

I think they should just increase the damage by 10% every patch until it's OP.

[broken carbon]

the 5 highest health targets

[broken carbon]

damage and range

if i can’t clear the entire map with one shriek its useless

[runic summit]

The 5 random poxwalkers in the horde as the power of the warp crushes down upon their heads:

[broken carbon]

me shoving the entirety of the warp into one poor groaner

so hungry

[runic summit]

Me when the hitmarker reads 4000 damage (he had 200 hp and i just wasted a quarter of my peril and 5 seconds of my life)

[broken carbon]

buff brain burst pls

let me machine gun burst a horde of crushers to death in like one second with a speed stim

[runic summit]

I still can't stand assail
Idk how so many people use it without being bored

[broken carbon]

real

assail is boring

there’s one clip somewhere

of josho clutching

with assail

which was really impressive

[runic summit]

Now if I'm in a zealot I'll run throwing knives all day
But assail is just too braindead

[broken carbon]

and at one point he used an ammo crate to replenish his assail lmfao

[broken carbon]

at least u have to aim and manage resource with knives

[runic summit]

Aim yeah
Don't really need to resource manage that much

[broken carbon]

to a small extent you do

on hi shock it’s not that big a deal though

[runic summit]

A little bit

[broken carbon]

i haven’t run knives in a while

i need to make a good mk6

[runic summit]

I run them on my shock maul build lol

[broken carbon]

i also need to make a good shock nail

mail

maul

haven’t tried one out yet

[runic summit]

Only use the indi

[broken carbon]

igni

[runic summit]

The other one isn't worth investing in

[runic summit]

Close enough it's 2am

[broken carbon]

yeah fair

[broken carbon]

erm, i believe you’ll find it to be 2:26am

i had a message deleted in a different chat for poking fun at a mod the other day

i used the nerd emoji too to make sure it was def interpreted as sarcastic

[runic summit]

You should go smack a barrel twice while standing near the edge of a bridge

[broken carbon]

you should go touch funko pop

[haughty star]

well first ever auric damn with assail

it didn't go too badly

[broken carbon]

(i don’t think they took it as such)

[broken carbon]

assail is pretty braindead to use

only risk is blowing urself up with it

[haughty star]

all the blitzs are tbh lol

[broken carbon]

smite yes

[haughty star]

i was just using it on rager packs and the likes

[broken carbon]

brain burst no

[haughty star]

eh brain burst is pretty brain dead too

[broken carbon]

brain burst requires a little bit of thought

[runic summit]

Smite isn't braindead to use
Considering braindead implies you need a brain capable of death to use it lol

[haughty star]

that's just look above your enemies to grab the elite ones lol

[runic summit]

Brain burst mostly just needs decent map positioning

[broken carbon]

yeah but u still need to make sure ur not gonna get eaten by 4 ragers

during the charge

which assail doesn’t need to worry about because u just throw them out as u go

and smite just stuns everything

how many targets can smite stun

[runic summit]

Bulwarks:

[broken carbon]

what

that’s like the best part of smite

[runic summit]

I might be tripping then nvm

[broken carbon]

stunning bulwarks

lmfao

[haughty star]

best part about surge tbh

[broken carbon]

take ur ass to bed

[haughty star]

trivializes bulwarks and crusher packs

[broken carbon]

u are up past ur bed time

[broken carbon]

true

[runic summit]

Invalidating bulwarks is my favorite reason for running surge lmao

[broken carbon]

it’s the sole reason i run smite

on voidstaff

cuz bulwark packs r just annoying

[haughty star]

yeah they are

not even bromentum or a good ol fashioned eviscerate can hard counter that

[runic summit]

Best part about shock maul once you set up a zealot build

Impact still procs on them

[broken carbon]

o

best

neat

okay my eyes feel heavy

i am gonna pass out soon

slumber time

[haughty star]

im speed running a 3 quick just to get 20 plasteel lol

https://tenor.com/view/money-wallet-broke-gif-7855913

[runic summit]

Prepare to be bored beyond belief 🙏

Played a game of regular damnation earlier this week
Low intensity shock troop
And man after a few months of only auric it felt so empty

[lethal lagoon]

I had to rush contracts for the first time in forever a couple of weeks ago.

Honestly wasn't that bad because I did melee only.(as in myself melee only)

The bad part was waiting 4 actual minutes at the elevator for the two confused sheep in my party to make their way there.

How they got level 30 is a feat of human achievement.

[haughty star]

was literally like 12 minutes lol and i assailed my way through the whole thing

[lethal lagoon]

I could have god mode cheats on, and there's a good chance a malice will still take 20 minutes because of the people involved. I imagine you ran into other contract seekers.

[runic summit]

The malice experience

[lethal lagoon]

[rich spindle]

Smite psyker just raged at me in voice for 10 minutes straight for "running around in circles like an idiot" when i was clutching 😔

[lethal lagoon]

I have a steam post for this;
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1361210/discussions/0/3935643263194411095/

[rich spindle]

Lol

I tried explaining calmy that i have to kite the enemies before I revive 😔

[cosmic sigil]

i am leveling a second psyker to get manstopper... and well well

https://tenor.com/view/anyone-here-tumbleweed-john-travolta-pulp-fiction-where-are-you-gif-22041899

[thin finch]

why ?

[cosmic sigil]

I want manstopper on db shotgun

I am tired to wait for the shop

[pine brook]

Any good psyker Melee build?

[thin finch]

yeah but why rolling a new psyket ?

It's cheaper ?

[cosmic sigil]

You get db shotgun at lvl 19. And assail has a fixed DMG so it's a good way to lvl fast

[thin finch]

This still does not answer my question as to why you simply don't try rolling with your first psyker

[cosmic sigil]

It's a t2 blessing. It's very hard to get a t2 blessing while crafting when you're lvl30

So you either wait for Melk or check the shop

[thin finch]

Really , you have more chance to get T4 when high level ? that I did not know

[cosmic sigil]

Yeah

You get almost always t3 or t4 blessings

I can't remember the last time I got something below.

And the odds to get a t4 is higher for the second blessing

[thin finch]

I assumed it was mostly to avoid feeling like wasting plasteel and unrelated to your character lvl

[cosmic sigil]

At first to was random. You could get a t1 second blessing... Then they changed that like a year ago?

[rich spindle]

go full right side

use illisi with slaughterer and uncanny

[pine brook]

Illis?

[rich spindle]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/weapons/sword-force/illisi-mk-v-blaze-force-sword

[upper sun]

me when i get yelled at for edging the revive while someone was dying on the fire

"I WAS WAITING FOR THE FIRE TO GO OFF AND SPAMMING E SO YOU DONT DIE"

[lethal lagoon]

I did that once, but I ended up missing the revive.

I explained quite a bit so they didn't think I was tea bagging them.

[cosmic sigil]

What does spamming e do?

[lethal lagoon]

Slow down le timer.

[cosmic sigil]

Also, it feels like the fire is staying a bit longer on the floor than before

[cosmic sigil]

I had no idea

[lethal lagoon]

Indeed.

Bereft of all ideas, but a man walking through this world with the void of his mind.

[cosmic sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/peepo-peepo-riot-riot-protest-peepo-angry-gif-21768097

[lethal lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/honkler-clown-world-pepe-gif-13934753

[cosmic sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/kek-wizard-pepe-power-gif-13819085

[pine brook]

Does any one have right side psyker tree build?

[upper sun]

my right or ur right?

[lethal lagoon]

#1158835513789272126 message

[pine brook]

bruh

[lethal lagoon]

Bro

I show you right side, plz respond

🥖

[pine brook]

[lethal lagoon]

Does the psyker look at the tree like this?

Or like this?

[upper sun]

yes

[lethal lagoon]

🐌

[upper sun]

no

[lethal lagoon]

🐌

[upper sun]

nuh uhhh

oops screeenshotted wrong

[lethal lagoon]

Nice edit, high ping loser

Fuck

[cosmic sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-pepe-running-in-circles-pepe-spinning-spinning-pepe-gif-10951607057960614021

[young ridge]

Are they ever going to fix trauma targeting?

At this point I'm more scared of stairs than I am of chaos spawn

[near wyvern]

Git gud. There is nothing wrong with Trauma targeting. Want to hit on the stairs? Ain at the middle railing. Want to aim through the stairs? Look through the steps.

[ornate hamlet]

I think if they fix the stairs targeting they might end up making guns and other staves unable to shoot through

It probably uses the same collision model

I sure wouldn't mind trauma being less ass on stairs tbh

[young ridge]

Some of you may die. but that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make

[tired estuary]

I'd rather trauma die tbh

[near wyvern]

There is nothing wrong with Trauma

[rich spindle]

Trauma should self damage when you shopt your feet

[near wyvern]

This is your problem if you complain about Trauma in stairs:

[polar willow]

any deimos sword stats suggestion?

[strong gulch]

Could also move away from stairs.

Check the pins for a pretty good guide.

If built right, the H2 can one shot mutants with no buffs.

Oh right, the guide is the Atheneum.

[midnight jolt]

No bad I guess?

[wind spruce]

Trauma not being absolutely cooked on stairs is astronomic levels of copium

Unbelievable those words come out of anyone's mouth lmfao

[clear bridge]

Yea it's cooked on stairs

I just don't find that a huge problem

Weapons having significant limitations is alright sometimes

Trauma is good enough I tend to think it's alright

[wind spruce]

Trauma is incredible

[upper sun]

eh hes kinda right about one thing fatshark does make maps pointy as all hell

[tired estuary]

trauma gives me double long covid

[upper sun]

some areas impede movement

stairs should be a flat plain not a actual literal stairs with holes

[fiery wigeon]

trauma is very strange to me

doesn't seem to be particularly good at killing things, at least compared to purg staff, and the other two are much better long distance hvt, trauma just seems to have the stagger going for it but shriek also does that

and i put shriek on everything

voidstrike cleave feels like it does what trauma is supposed to do, damage wise, better than trauma

[tired estuary]

properly built crit trauma completely shuts down melee elites and does overall a ton of dmg over the course of a mission

[wind spruce]

He's absolutely without question right about the stairs issue

[wind spruce]

Shriek has a cooldown and has far, far less stagger lol

Trauma gives you unparalleled control over the flow of engagements

And, no, surge is not any better at long distance

Trauma has effectively infinite cleave

[marble crater]

No, let newer psykers hate on Trauma, maybe we will get it buffed that way

[upper sun]

WHY DO OGRYN GET STUCK ON THIS IN SILO CLUSTER

[upper sun]

THE HOLE MAP IS POINTY

AAAAAAAAAAA

[hardy delta]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-valve-valve-turning-head-anime-pfp-zero-gif-26243706

[upper sun]

am i schizo or is this genuinely bad?

[halcyon gust]

First of all. Why the fuck do you have 2 extra wounds on Ogryn

[upper sun]

i played sedation to record this bug after i almost died there in auric

[halcyon gust]

Fair nuff

Good day to you shark

Seen why too many brutes running +wound curios on Damnation as of late

[near wyvern]

Stop eating other people's rations

[upper sun]

i changed my ogryn to max height for bulwarks 😭

[wind spruce]

"Hole"

[upper sun]

rage typing 😭

[wind spruce]

Hole is funnier

Whenever I hear the name holly I laugh

"Holey" ... hehe

I'm laughing rn

[upper sun]

smh ur acting so unholy rn

[near wyvern]

*unholey

[upper sun]

ur being unwholesome rn

[near wyvern]

Did you mean unholeysome?

[upper sun]

😡 no!!!!

[rocky yarrow]

why number bigger

[wind spruce]

The bottom number?

[rocky yarrow]

ye

[wind spruce]

Good question (assuming that's the offense scores)

[rocky yarrow]

it is

the 4 is ranged elites

[wind spruce]

Seems weird

[white wolf]

Sitting on this till crafting rework.

[brazen rampart]

Pain.

[wind spruce]

What's your threshold for discard

[patent jacinth]

380

[wind spruce]

That's just stupid

[vernal temple]

practically idential to the one I've found at Melk. 59% in Mobility, 80% on everything else

[eager junco]

375

374

[plucky flax]

Warp resistance so high

[untold niche]

wat issue here

[upper sun]

watch the whole thing

first time no stickiness second time yeah

[untold niche]

you slowly slid up the barel bnecause of the incline of the stairs?

[upper sun]

i didnt slide

that was me trying to sprint

[lime moat]

Whenever I play psyker I try to make myself the electro wizard from clash royale

[untold niche]

yeah, as in "slide"

[upper sun]

yeah kinda

[untold niche]

yeah, i think its because of the angle

[upper sun]

i think its because the edge is very sharp

@untold niche new mission has the same problem

[untold niche]

damn lol

inbetween two ramps

[upper sun]

ye

[untold niche]

k time to play my first game in 2months

if i lose im going to quit

[upper sun]

this stuff really bothers me in maps

[untold niche]

new weapons any fun?

or quite similar

[upper sun]

melee weapons are good ranged not so much

[halcyon gust]

Double barrel is decent

Bolt Pistol suffers from the same gripes the Bolt rifle suffersfrom

[near wyvern]

For Psykers? Nope.

[near wyvern]

WDYM Bolt Pistol is great

[halcyon gust]

Well I speak in general not for certain classes

[vague solstice]

Fatshark really took a commodore cosmetic from over a year ago, replaced the inquisition symbol with a mechanicus one and called it a day.

[near wyvern]

At least for Psykrers you can get nice hit to kill values for Bolt Pistol

[vague solstice]

I do not want to pay for WORSE versions of a cosmetic Fatshark

[near wyvern]

Yeah the premium skins are so fucking lazy it's disgusting. If they costed like 1€ or 2€ for a set it would be very justified.

[vague solstice]

They were cooking for a while with the krieger skin and the stuff right after

[halcyon gust]

Don't worry. We'll go through a 2 months of this before we get our next "Seal of approval" cosmetics

[vague solstice]

but went right back to the lazy reskinning

They just need to make it like vermentide already and stop with the FOMO bullshit

Give us the FULL LIST OF COSMETICS YOU MADE

[near wyvern]

I guess it's faster to get the seal of approval when you don't change anything else but a single colour or a single icon

[vague solstice]

Oh wait i stand corrected they changed the logo AND the right gauntlet

What a substancial change

[marble crater]

[cosmic sigil]

I am pretty sure they can't do anything without gw red tape and approval

[ornate abyss]

worth grabbin?

[upper sun]

NAH

caps

[haughty star]

ideas for assail?

i'm trying it out on gunker and it's okay but it's not quite enough to fill the holes ds4 leaves

[brazen rampart]

You have to use it as a melee supplicant blitz instead of "shut up crowd" or "begone carapace" like smite and bb are, respectively.

Alternatively, you can just spam it at a crowd of shooters when you're within reasonable distance.

Good for stunning gunners out of their setups, as well.

[haughty star]

i'm decent with psyker as it's my most played char at 400 hours but just never picked assail

[brazen rampart]

Valid.

I'm just throwing out what it's good at.

It is not good at single target hunting with the alt fire. It takes like 2-3 darts just to kill specialists and gunners, which is what you would use it on with the alt fire, anyway.

[haughty star]

word. i just don't know what to use it for lol as far as builds go. i kept exploding as gunker lmao and gunker always seems so lame to me cuz it's not very ammo effecient

[brazen rampart]

Well, you aren't meant to spam all of them.

Throw 2 or 3, back to melee to keep malefic up.

[haughty star]

also is a genuine kick to the groin that we don't get PA

[brazen rampart]

PA?

[haughty star]

psyker aura

[brazen rampart]

Not familiar with shorthand.

[haughty star]

cdr on elite kills

[brazen rampart]

Like the augmented quicking?

Oh oh that one.

Yeah that would be nuts on assail.

You'd be able to have instant cooldowns by killing trains of elites.

[stable hare]

Do you guys take kinetic presence or seers presence with purg?

[brazen rampart]

Seers.

Kinetic is nice but not necessary if I'm stunlocking them with soulblaze.

[haughty star]

depends i typically almost always go kinetic with surge

don't use purg myseslf

surge needs the help tho

[brazen rampart]

Me when carapace damage is worthless on surge because it targets bodies and not heads:

[haughty star]

it got that handy little stunlocking thing tho

if they ever nerfed that surge would be garbage

[upper sun]

got ledged twice in the span of 10 seconds on the new mission then rage quit it

[brazen rampart]

True but like, damn, I wish it targeted heads instead.

If it did headshot damage it would be so much better.

[haughty star]

surge is objectively one of the most op weapons in the game simply because it just trivializes the crushers and bulwarks

and has decent damage to be able to drop them eventually as well

[midnight jolt]

A reminder for myself (or anyone looking for generic curios) #psyker-class message 😉

[haughty star]

Health more better

run +3 and 2 health with toughness on perks to get you above 100

2 toughness curios with 3 toughness perks is like 130something depending on build. 2 health with toughness on perks is still 100 tough but like 120 more health

[fathom totem]

Also hp curio keeps you from 1 wound death when picking up 2 grims.

[midnight jolt]

3 curios will have a total of +15% HP, the idea behind toughness is because you regen it, you don't regen HP

Back in January that was the consensus

[haughty star]

i just don't see a large enough margin of toughness for it to be worth it

with health you can have almost 300 health with toughness you get like 30 more toughness lol

plus yeah 200 health minimum with 1 sniper res has always been a general rule of thumb for psyker

[midnight jolt]

I understand the numbers, but you do NOT regen HP

the idea is not to get to the point where HP matters

[haughty star]

no i understand as well but if you're going to lose the very small amount of toughness you gain running toughness curios you've already lost health

basically the psyker toughness pool is good for like a one, maybe 2 hit bumper regardless of how much you juice the toughness so to me it just doesn't make sense to have less health to bolster it by very marginally small numbers

in psykaneum my base toughness is 105 and 255 health with 2 health curios, if i switch to toughness curios my health drops to 181 and toughness only goes up to 129

so it's like 25 toughness vs 75 health lol. it's such a narrow margin with toughness that it just doesn't make sense to me to even bother. 25 toughness is like less than one hit from a regular addy

[untold niche]

wow, the rashad skijn is pretty nice

[haughty star]

all this being said the only general consensus is that +3 and 200 health with 1 sniper res are mandatory for psyker. the rest is prolly personal preference

[haughty star]

is there new skins??

[near wyvern]

200 health is not mandatory, sniper resistance and +3 stam is very good though

[untold niche]

curio? pick whatever you like on psyker
CDR and purple hp resistance perks are goated tho

purple hp resist for the poxyb

[untold niche]

i think old, on psyker, second slot there is rashad skin

[upper sun]

jumping around like an idiot is unironically better than trying to dodge snipers

[haughty star]

it takes 200 health to utilize the 25 sniper res with no toughness otherwise you get tapped from what i understand

[upper sun]

i pretty much only eat sniper shots as ogryn

[near wyvern]

Sprint slide all day long

[haughty star]

yeee but shit happens

[upper sun]

it unironically havent happened to me in months

[haughty star]

i mean it's easy to say that but unironically there is no way to prove that. regardless it's best to have a contingency when talking about something that can one tap you

[upper sun]

with defensive stats i think its just best to pick whatever you struggle with most rather thhan whats optimal

[untold niche]

thats me btw

[haughty star]

and deffo good advice to players asking about curios. your baseline average player is going to get hit by a sniper every once in a blue moon. it just happens in this game sometimes

shit sometimes you can't even see em lol. it's like saying just don't get trapped. sometimes the concept is literally impossible

[upper sun]

yeah

for me i like bomber resist on psyker

since most of our movespeed is buffs and the lower hp

they kinda hurt

[haughty star]

i run one bomber one sniper and one gunner with tough and health on the other 6

than 2 21 percents with a +3 putting me around 112 toughness and 250something health

more cushion for the pushin

[upper sun]

3x toughness 3x combat ability and idk what im locked to

i think id run bomber gunner and hp once the locks are gone

maybe corruption instead of hp

[untold niche]

not that one

the one with gold skull

[haughty star]

oh shit with the eagle head?

[near wyvern]

On Damnation Snipers hit you for 175 damage last time I checked with 10x multiplier against toughness and full spillover (if your toughness breaks you take the full 175 to your HP pool).

No sniper resist:

• 175 damage

One +20% sniper resist:

• 175 * 0.8 = 140 damage

Two +20% sniper resist:

• 175 * 0.8 * 0.8 = 112 damage

Three +20% sniper resist:

• 175 * 0.8^3 = 89.6 damage

You don't need 200 HP to benefit from sniper resistance.

[upper galleon]

Yea one sniper resist is good cause sometimes they will just get ya at bad moments

Not like 3rd perk is highly contested either

[haughty star]

i mean when we're talking about a margin of like having 30 hp as a psyker that's just kinda splitting hairs

[upper galleon]

30 on psyker is a lot, pretty sure psyker has the lowest hp alongside vet

[haughty star]

but yes to not get one tapped by snipers i supose you wouldn't "need" it

[near wyvern]

My point is, I prefer stacking Toughness and having sniper resist on my curios for eating that odd ball no scope 360 from behind the wall. Having toughness means less chip damage to your HP pool from other things.

[haughty star]

eh

[near wyvern]

I don't have any extra HP at all apart from the talent tree nodes

[haughty star]

i just don't feel that 25 toughness

[upper galleon]

Toughness regen talents scale with % toughness

[haughty star]

i do however feel almost 80 health lol

[upper galleon]

My non deflector curios is 2x toughness, 1x hp, with minor hp and toughness on all of them

[haughty star]

gross

no +3

[upper galleon]

And if i remember right i have 1x generalized corruption and 1x sniper

[upper galleon]

I have one for deflector/kinetic build

[near wyvern]

I run +3 stamina, +17% toughness, +17% toughness and then +toughness, and +toughness regen on all with sniper resist on 2 and don't remember what the last one is but definitely not HP, might have been one gunner resistance

[upper galleon]

Never felt i needed more, even with ds4

Toughness regen imo sucks

You have no way to juice it up like ogryn

[haughty star]

toughness regen can be strong for shield builds

[upper galleon]

And you dont want to be getting chipped like an ogryn either

True i guess

I can’t run psyker without one major hp curio

A grimiore will hurt and 2 grims will eventually just corrupt you

[midnight jolt]

I usually have 2 gunners resists, I feel like I can always pop something or slide against snipers

[near wyvern]

You have puppet master which makes you get and link coherency to further ranges. This is essential at Auric Maels as you don't need to be stacked like chickens

[haughty star]

i just find the 20-30 toughness you gain from running toughness curios to be unacceptable

it's not enough damage to really even say it negates anything

[upper galleon]

I don’t feel like gunner resist is needed with empathetic evasion

[haughty star]

that's like one hit from the most basic enemy

[upper galleon]

Psyker is prob the only class that can forgo gunner resist entirely

[midnight jolt]

is not about the extra value as raw, is about how many times you regen it and how much it prevents touching your HP pool

[near wyvern]

I don't recall a game in the last 200 hours where a team mate would have picked up a grim other than to pick it up and destroy to give someone an extra wound

[upper galleon]

Yea and how it scales with all your toughness talents

On warp kill especially

[haughty star]

yes bbut at the point that little bit would matter your toughness would be broken anyway

[upper galleon]

Why do i need to worry about coherency regen

[near wyvern]

Toughness is regenerable HP

[upper galleon]

When i get full off from 6/7 kills

[near wyvern]

And as a bonus

[haughty star]

yes but this isn't zealot

[near wyvern]

You take less juice from med kits

And get more value out of them

[haughty star]

if each curio added 30-40 toughness you'd have a point

[upper galleon]

The point is that it breaks less, and EWEW zealot taught me low toughness is >>> broken toughness

[upper galleon]

Pretty close to it

[haughty star]

it doesn't lol

it's like 10 for psyker

[upper galleon]

22% per curio, then the flat toughness nodes in tree

10 for psyker lmao

[haughty star]

10 to the actual pool yes

[near wyvern]

And then you have toughness damage reduction

And constant toughness regen

[upper galleon]

Psyker prob has the worst tdr options/stacking but they make up for it with kinetic deflection and empathetic evasion

And having easy access to a ton of strong toughness generators

[haughty star]

to regen ~25 toughness.

not worth

imo

[near wyvern]

But you know, if you are a chad gamer and rarely make mistakes you need no toughness

[upper galleon]

You have the tdr based on warp charges and then like minor nodes?

[near wyvern]

I am not so I stack it as much as I can to allow me make mistakes frequently

[haughty star]

most stuff where having extra toughness is gonna matter IS going to break your toughness on psyker

you don't gain enough to take more hits imo

[upper galleon]

Every player needs toughness cause range trash exists

Imo yea you do

[midnight jolt]

if only I didn't just started playing on Steam I could fix her 😂

[near wyvern]

Being able to get molested by a pox walker every few seconds without getting any diseases is nice

[upper galleon]

The difference from trash shooters breaking you in one volley or two is huge

Low toughness>>> no toughness after taking chip

[haughty star]

the amount you gain is like 2 shots from a trash shooter lol

[upper galleon]

That’s why ewew been nerfed so hard and why it’s still one of the best talents for zealot

[haughty star]

if you already fucked up enough to let trash shooters to shoot you it ain't gonna matter

[near wyvern]

This is pretty much what my regular games look like so I don't get why I should stack HP

[haughty star]

you can't compare zealots toughness pool to psykers lmao

[near wyvern]

All HP buffs in that game would have been worth nothing

[haughty star]

zealots toughness starts out higher than you can achieve on psyker

[upper galleon]

2.5% toughness regen per second when near enemies may not sound like a lot, but it constantly ticks up meaning you aren’t at true 0% toughness and you can still benefit from toughness break protection

Anyways

Being not instantly toughness broken means you have more time to get toughness back

Before hitting the danger zone

[midnight jolt]

killing elites, poping shield + other things = toughness regen, a % of your total

[upper galleon]

0 toughness is a death sentence

[haughty star]

which 20 toughness isn't gonna save you from lol

the objective to psyker is keeping your toughness pool maxxed

to keep your lil bumber up. 20 points to that bumper ain't helping shit lol

[upper galleon]

Why do your number keep dropping xd

[haughty star]

it's like 20-25 toughness running health vs toughness curios with the same perks. literally in psykaneum rn bro

[near wyvern]

@haughty star can you explain how HP would have done a thing for me in this match?

#psyker-class message

[haughty star]

i don't think the extra toughness did anything for you either lol

[near wyvern]

It did a lot, avoided things to touch my HP pool

See the times disabled

[haughty star]

just because you're good at not taking damage doesn't mean the extra ttoughness would have done anything

[upper galleon]

2x major 3x minor toughness has let me do absolutely cheesy things and get by

I see nothing i can get that would drastically help my survival compared to toughess

[dapper dove]

" I did like 11 times more damage than you elites specials monsters everything "

[untold niche]

they keep dying, just look at the times revived

[upper galleon]

HP? I take one, and psyker has insane toughness regen talents so toughness is more valuable

[haughty star]

running anything but +3 on psyker is 3head gameplay

[upper galleon]

10 rescues lmaooo

[upper galleon]

Never needed it

Unless im running deflector and or kd

[haughty star]

who tf doesn't pick up KD on pysker? lol

it's literally a no brainer

[upper galleon]

Maybe cause i also play 0 stam on every other class

Never needed it even with ds4

[near wyvern]

Found the one who is not advancing with the team

[upper galleon]

And i fight off rager packs with special and dodges and timed blocks anyways

[untold niche]

all yellow as well, except for boss i guess

[upper galleon]

I am the advancement

[haughty star]

that's not the point lol you can spend your time tanking and doing damage to bosses or you can spend your time running away from them and chip damaging lol

KD is the difference here

[upper galleon]

I dont have trouble with bosses lol

Unless it’s a daemonhost but that was once with assail

[haughty star]

i mean you say that but literally everyone here gonna say not running KD is dumb asf lol

[upper galleon]

You have the best dodge in the game and frankly I can put my points elsewherr

[haughty star]

it's literally one of the strongest perks in the game and almost 0 point investment

like why tf would you not have it

[near wyvern]

The real value of KD is being able to quickly raise up a downed team member while being surrounded by melee before the fucking bomber lands the throw

[upper galleon]

Because i don’t need it

[near wyvern]

And you need +3 stamina for that

[fringe garden]

KD isn't exactly a big point investment. It comes right after the 5% crit chance, which you're gonna take anyway

[upper galleon]

If i need revive, i simply kill everything or high peril vent and knock everything down

[near wyvern]

That is not always possible at Auric Maels

[haughty star]

[upper galleon]

If my build uses KD i have a +3 stam

[upper galleon]

I have 0 issue in auric maels

[haughty star]

easy enough to say

[upper galleon]

Like idk what to say lol

[midnight jolt]

I entered a match, accidentally triggered the DH with my lightning and then pushed the DH off the platform, totally not planned 😂

[eager junco]

+9 stam everyday

[haughty star]

tank the world

[upper galleon]

Why tank it when i can kill it

[haughty star]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[upper galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/starship-troopers-paul-verhoeven-robert-heinlein-buenos-aires-kill-them-all-gif-23642456

[haughty star]

not taking KD is just dumb lol

idk what else to say here

[untold niche]

oh ya

uh pygex

do you know

what times downed is under?

[upper galleon]

Im multi maelstrom + hardmode twins on every class xd

[untold niche]

ovenproof or scoreboard

and if its ovenproof whioch section

[haughty star]

easy enough to say

[upper galleon]

Just sounds like a crutch

[fringe garden]

Why use any of your skill points, I guess. Just go in naked with no points in anything and slay, king

[midnight jolt]

I disable all from standard scoreboard and enable everything from OvenProof

[upper galleon]

Then again im using EP smite with void staff

[untold niche]

do you have "Times Downed"?

[upper galleon]

So im just using a different crutch

[untold niche]

EP SMITE?

[haughty star]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-biden-presidential-debate-huh-confused-gif-16704157274113773062

[upper galleon]

EP vent smite

[haughty star]

we know

[upper galleon]

My go to tryhard win build

With void staff and ds4

[haughty star]

lol what

[near wyvern]

I have scoreboard for the things down to coherency efficiency, after that the stuff is from ovenproofs, if that is your question

#psyker-class message

[haughty star]

tryhard

epsmite

lolwut

[upper galleon]

Maybe fatshark shouldn’t have buffed it

[untold niche]

im specifically asking if you know the "times downed | players helped" is under ovenproof or scoreboard, can't seem to find it but i want to enable it

[upper galleon]

Oh is the narrative that smite sucks like it did patches ago now?

[haughty star]

ep smite is just braindead lol

[upper galleon]

Or cause some scrubs still use it improperly

[near wyvern]

Should be from scorecoard, possibly a combined stat with other name on it

[upper galleon]

Yea it’s braindead and it wins me games

[untold niche]

no its that its too good
even without EP i hate people using it because it makes the game just unengaging

[near wyvern]

@untold niche I can DM you my settings later today if you want for scoreboard and ovenproof

[upper galleon]

not anymore unengaging then holding a deflector block for 30 minutes

[untold niche]

okeh thanks dood

[upper galleon]

ngl

[midnight jolt]

Overproof

[upper galleon]

at least this way I focus on killing things

[haughty star]

it's got 0 skill expression and there are just as strong builds running other things

[haughty star]

that's not the point of running KD lol

[upper galleon]

yea that's my void staff and ds4 job

[haughty star]

imagine even using deflector

[upper galleon]

true, EE exists

[untold niche]

deflector block only really works for bosses imo.
if yo ublock against 12 gunners it feels like its gone within 3 seconds.

And deflector block only affects yourself.
I hate it when teammates use smite because i feel like im not playing the game anymore
at that point i might as well install kovaak or something

[upper galleon]

which completely makes pskyer brainless since nearly every build goes some level of crit

[untold niche]

thansk alot d00d

[haughty star]

deflector won't save you from anything a regular block won't when bossing

unless i'm missing something

[untold niche]

oh shit i got it confsued with KD because he said block for 30 minutes

im assuming thats what he meant

[upper galleon]

Additionally, Block Cost is reduced by 22.5-30%.

[haughty star]

that doesn't apply to melee

[untold niche]

thats only for ranged, someone did a code dive

[upper galleon]

okay that's on fatshark

not on me

there is a period, then "Additionally,"

[untold niche]

if i want toi be bastard, captain boss?
Or does his shots go thru block

like sniper

not sure.

[haughty star]

ummm

not sure

[untold niche]

[haughty star]

don't run deflector it nerfs the swords it applies to too much lol

[haughty star]

illisi needs all the damage it can get

[untold niche]

i really only find it useful when i accidentally proc DH which is like once in a month thing

i use myu illisi for trash clear

so its fine

i hit my bruiser bps

[haughty star]

these are actually laughably low numbers for ep smite lol

[upper galleon]

last time i did it, i had an assail shard out and i looked in the direction of the DH and it just wizzed over

[upper galleon]

true honestly

if i took KD

i'd have more damage

0 blocked attacks

XD

holy shit i do not block at all

[untold niche]

are you premade/

?

[upper galleon]

randoms

all these auric damns, i have 0 to 9 blocks

[untold niche]

tbh i find it weird you never had to revive someone in a mixed horde

[upper galleon]

okay

this was hi int sniper gauntlet i think

the scoreboard is broken

but i love the 0 blocks lol

11 BLOCK game

[untold niche]

does it register as blockl when you are reviving?
Regardless yuou didn't have any revives

[upper galleon]

i think this one was an assail

[haughty star]

i don't really get what you're trying to prove here lol

[upper galleon]

yea cause I just kill things

then a teammate picks them up

i clear for a teammate

[haughty star]

yeah but these are all really low number games

especially for ep smite

[upper galleon]

last one isn't even EP smite

that's assail

i'm like 99% sure

[haughty star]

i'm averaging higher damage numbers on brainburst shield than your best game posted lol

[upper galleon]

anyways, "low numbers" sorry I can't make fatshark director spawn more

damn sounds like your teams suck

sorry to hear that

[haughty star]

maybe just sitting behind smite isn't the best way to play the game? idk. the point here was not taking KD is just dumb lol

[upper galleon]

and another one

11 blocks

i don't block shit

and I do fine

[haughty star]

it's like 0 point investment to make you one of the strongest defense in the game lol

[upper galleon]

why would i need to take something that will only work, 11 times a match?

i'm already defensed as hell lol

like this is the reverse "If you are good enough you don't need toughness"

[haughty star]

bro you took almost 1000 damage that match

blocking a lil bit would of been a welcome change lol

[upper galleon]

i'm good enough/brain damaged enough

[upper galleon]

yea all to toughness

only needed to medicaid once

[haughty star]

no, that is health damage on the scoreboard lol

you sucked up a lot of health packs lol

[upper galleon]

that doesn't make sense cause i didn't die xd

[haughty star]

yes you ate a literal metric ton of medie pack regen lol

[upper galleon]

also love how the scoreboard directory just crashed my game

was that gas modifier?

i don't remember the codes

keeps clogging my ferret searches

i hate AI artwork btw

[eager junco]

its bc there is many of them i think

[upper galleon]

very possibly true

[quick python]

Go into appdata and empty it out

[upper galleon]

i'm going out for greek

[midnight jolt]

Love this axe, I know dueling swords are better but I'm having more fun with taxes 😉

[upper sun]

taxes are theft 😠

[midnight jolt]

tactical axes, is a DT term, fine, it shall be t-axes from now on 😂

[upper sun]

WAIT

i just realized something

rumbler and kickback share blessings right?

despite rumbler having more

so why dont staves 😭

[wild night]

CAUSE THE FISH IS STUPID.

[long wharf]

Rumbler and kickback don't share blessings

[upper sun]

🤔

are u sure because i only remember earning blaze away on one of them

[jovial juniper]

That's like the only blessing they have in common 💀

[marble crater]

They indeed don't share blessings

[spice veldt]

adhesive charge kickback

[untold niche]

I play ogryn, 2 vet and 1 psyker.
Only one shooting snipers...

[blissful pulsar]

So random question but which of these three would be best to keep? I'm assuming the first but the lower warp resistance might suck.

I'd have to sac one to get the warp flurry onto the second if I kept it

[idle aurora]

Ye, 1st one is best from 3, lower warp res isn't always bad tbh, can help you get higher crit faster

[marble crater]

First one for sure, you can change perks freely and warp resistance is not that impactful

[blissful pulsar]

Cool, means I can rip the T4 blessings off the other two

[marble crater]

Yes, but you might never need them, because the first one is basically perfect

[idle aurora]

For the collection, i get all random level 1 & 2 blessings from weapon shop from time to time

I think i have almost everything now

[marble crater]

We will need them for the crafting update, I started doing that too

[upper sun]

AAAAAAAAAAA WHY

IVE BEEN ROLLING SURGES SINCE I STARTED PLAYING

HE DOESNT EVEN HAVE FLURRY AND NEXUS EARNED

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[marble crater]

You need a snickers

[upper sun]

ye i just got dinner

[plucky flax]

It's not as good as mine.

[blissful pulsar]

I got it early on an already good one (second one with t3 and t4 is my one ive used for like a year)

Ive been rerolling other staffs/weapons and finally got back to trying to upgrade surge

[upper sun]

🙏

ok i am less assblasted

i have unironically been rolling for free perk surges or flak 4 locked since i started playing the game

sunk a couple of mil

[fresh reef]

I feel like I don't see Wall nearly as much as I should

[queen fog]

Bubble having the talent node that adds toughness regen inside the dome as well as toughness damage resistance after it goes away i can see why u dont see walls

[blissful pulsar]

Yea he wall just isnt good thanks to the toughness buffs on bubble. Maybe if wall didnt break so fast to specials.

[edgy heart]

emperor gave me this, how cooked am i

[upper sun]

its 1/3 so far and the base isnt all that good

[blissful pulsar]

Yea thats how I do it. I play auric till I have about 2-3mil, then rapidly buy white items until at 100k and scan them all for good ones to upgrade.

So this surge staff was from one of those 2mil docket spending sprees

[upper sun]

no no you dont get it

i unironically sunk 90% of everything i made since i started playing into surge

a couple of mil is around 20

[blissful pulsar]

Oof

[upper sun]

took me 10 buys to get a blaze trauma

everything else aside from deimos/illisi was from brunts/melk

[thick carbon]

speaking of which, have they fixed Surge for Trauma yet?

[upper sun]

nope

[thick carbon]

rip

[marble crater]

Fixed implies it should work on the explosion, is it supposed to work on that?

[broken carbon]

probably not but it should

[marble crater]

@lethal lagoon it's important okay

[brazen rampart]

About to make you even angrier. First surge I got with decent stats, I upgraded into having both at t4.

[upper sun]

post it

lemme find something to cope with

[brazen rampart]

Not on my psyker right now.

Finishing up vet marksmans focus penance with a recon mk2.

I've got like 150ish kills left.

[midnight jolt]

https://tenor.com/jcWWvmcN7GZ.gif

Just need to hunt for warp flurry v3 or so

[marble crater]

No flak is certainly a choice

[fallen wave]

Looking for group/help with Malleus Monstronum Penance

[upper sun]

do you have a build?

[fallen wave]

Not sure what oyu mean but ye I got the brainsplode build

[upper sun]

i recommend this

using double walls will give you more uptime on your BB upgrade

my internet isnt super stable rn but i can help

[fallen wave]

cool

[upper sun]

invite me

[fallen wave]

is the number next to your nem the code tingy?

[upper sun]

yeah the fatshark code

[empty robin]

I cooked people.

[marble crater]

Cook the crit chance to maniac and you have a good DS4

[upper galleon]

maniac lets you skewer muties

[oak oasis]

I just started a pyscher and i want a good needle build thatll shred everything any tips?

[hexed geyser]

Just take a gun and whatever sword you want for leveling, shards are really good below level 30 and just more efficient than your weapon until then

[fallen wave]

Looking for group/help with Malleus Monstronum Penance

[upper sun]

this was unironically the first time it took me more than one attempt playing zealot has killed my ability to play ogryn

[fallen wave]

Thank you very much Clad ! Cheers m8

I new to psyker aswell so .. not that easy this class xD

[upper sun]

no problem

[halcyon gust]

90% of Psyker is learning to manage your peril and edge it

[strong gulch]

Then completely forgetting the mechanic and brain farting yourself to death.

[halcyon gust]

I love just sniping dogs mid pounce with a Orb

[wind spruce]

Poking them mid jump with duelling sword is even more dopamine

[haughty star]

on auric HISTG

https://tenor.com/view/what-can-i-say-except-the-n-word-maui-moana-n-word-disney-gif-17172937

[thin finch]

I don't get it

[haughty star]

two wounds on a psyker?

[upper sun]

bro got TWO WOUNDS

[upper galleon]

HUH

[halcyon gust]

I gnerally use the Illisi force sword as my main melee. I generally don't like how the dueling sword plays

[upper galleon]

i think you posted the wrong gif

[thin finch]

I count four

[halcyon gust]

Excuse me the fuck

[haughty star]

I KNOW

[upper galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/moana-delete-maui-delete-this-gif-15101621

[thin finch]

Psyker got two wound curios
time to say gamer word

[halcyon gust]

I get 1 extra wound if you're new to the difficulty, but 2

[upper galleon]

most sane psyker moment

2 is such an awkward number as well, at that point, just all in at 3 for the meme

[thin finch]

I dunno when I am almost dead because one bretonian peasant grazed me a tad too close I would probably run 2 wounds at some point in my career

[halcyon gust]

I run 0 extra wounds. I live life on the edge

[upper sun]

psyker explosion should have a 300% power multiplier

[thin finch]

But well, I canot because I must run those +2 stamina curios

[upper sun]

imagine blowing up at 6 warp charges with a power stim and you kill 3 bosses and a dh at once

[thin finch]

I do not want Suicideker as an encouraged playstyle

[upper sun]

I DO

[thin finch]

On the other hand ,that would make multiple wound psyker a "kind of " vaiable" build

[halcyon gust]

4 psykers suicide is a joy to see

[thin finch]

but still me no wants it , I do not want to lose 3 siblings and watch them being stuck between 20 rager because they blew up too late

[halcyon gust]

That's why you show them how it is done yourself sibling

[rich spindle]

Needle build?

[haughty star]

sad day

done with all my psyker missions now all i got left is my poopy veteran

[strong gulch]

level another psyker

[haughty star]

i have 2 already

[strong gulch]

valid

[haughty star]

i do enjoy ogryn and zealot gameplay too. vet is always my last to do cuz it's just kinda meh

[strong gulch]

I hope the crafting update lets us craft some really dookie weapons. Like no stats over 30.

if stats are still a thing

[halcyon gust]

The only class I honestly can't stand to play is Zealot

[dark swift]

For a Knife Psyker is this bricked or salvageable?

[lavish glade]

Not bricked

Actually

Fuck you low finesse having ass

[strong gulch]

If you're min maxing it's bricked.

Low finesse and none of the perks and blessing you should be aiming for.

[lavish glade]

Precog isnt bad

[strong gulch]

If you really want to play knife and that's the one you have, change precog to uncanny and sprint to maniac.

[dark swift]

I was just crafting for the hell of it lol, but for knives you want near max finesse?

[lavish glade]

Yes

[strong gulch]

Damage and finesse, then first target and penetration, and the dump is mobility

[lavish glade]

Its going to be your crit dmg modifier and attk speed if im not mistaken

I wouldnt dump mobility to hard w knife imo

[upper galleon]

both blessings are good and flak is good, tho it sucks to be stuck with t3, it's not the end of the world

finesse modifier stat is crit dmg, weakspot dmg, and attack speed

[upper galleon]

you can dump a ton and it will still be one of the fastest weapons in the game

only matters when getting into the 50's you'll lose one dodge and that isn't good

[strong gulch]

Idk exactly when knife loses a dodge, but at 44 mobility it still has 5. The dodge distance gets smaller shorter for sure.

DS on the other hand loses a dodge below 50 mobility. DS2 and DS4; DS5 might be different.

[hardy raft]

knife mobility threshhold is like 11% i think idk

[wind spruce]

That's not true. Riposte and flak are both desirable blessings/perks depending on your build

[wind spruce]

But yeah, do this

[strong gulch]

I suppose that true. I mean, crits are important.

[cosmic sigil]

Sure? I went as low as 28 and still 5 dodges

[hardy raft]

i onjly heard some guy saying about it

idk if it actually matters

heck mobility 0% knife might work

[manic halo]

imagine not stacking wound curios

[pine brook]

Empathic Evasion: A Critical Hit makes you count as Dodging against ranged attacks for 1s.
Does it activate effect that activates from dodging?

[hardy raft]

i heard that was the case but idk

[lethal lagoon]

If I remember correctly, only when you dodged ranged mobs, not elites.

Or the other way around

[strong gulch]

Had a vet mag dumping into hordes and ping "I need ammo" while holding an ammo crate.

[hardy raft]

give me a build with rashad in i for psyker

[stiff falcon]

Me

[potent echo]

Rashad on psyker is doable but

Lack of attack speed makes it bleg

[hardy raft]

well do you think taxes better? :3

[untold niche]

wouldnt that take ilike 3 weeks

[wind spruce]

In any build with DD, rashad will do ok

I like it with my voidstrike but no assail build since you can chop your way through trash surrounding you quickly, which void struggles with

[near wyvern]

Rashad performs a lot better with warp battery

The weak spot mult is not that high on it

[stable hare]

how do you guys feel about empathic evasion?

I've found myself getting clowned by shotgunner trains that pop up from behind or get 100 to 0 from a reaper. Seems like a decent option, no?

[lethal lagoon]

A couple things to consider;

Are you dying while attacking?

Rate of fire.

Crit chance.

Dying to ranged is usually a mix of not enough DPS and bad positioning.

EE for something like Columbus mk5 or Purg Staff is a no brainer though.

Everything else it's questionable and down to your playstyle and the challenges you face.

[upper sun]

pre nerf ciag

[lethal lagoon]

All they did was drop the string from 4 to 3?

[upper sun]

yeah but its massive

[lethal lagoon]

Just run 5% crit chance flak.

[upper sun]

i used to kill a crusher with 1 mag

now it takes two

[lethal lagoon]

Your mom takes two

[upper sun]

ur mum takes 4

[lethal lagoon]

Escalating a your mom joke directly is childish and uncreative

[upper sun]

also katy perry would have been the wholesome option

[lethal lagoon]

👧 💋

[upper sun]

https://packaged-media.redd.it/tqpshoqq9msb1/pb/m2-res_710p.mp4?m=DASHPlaylist.mpd&v=1&e=1720965600&s=7d2431480bfdd6a0c1c76255f1417ff3103126dd#t=0

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its not a defense deimos 0/10

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this is peak deimos like it or not

[lethal lagoon]

[upper sun]

wanna know what was there before deflector?

[lethal lagoon]

Your dignity?

[upper sun]

GUESS

[lethal lagoon]

Your hopes and dreams?

[upper sun]

slaughter

[lethal lagoon]

[supple dock]

https://tenor.com/bgKEW.gif

[upper sun]

FEAR MY POTENTIAL

i unironically run it in my daily builds

[lethal lagoon]

My brother will single handedly bring back the clowns in the mainstream

Tiktok will literally just be clown content for the next 5 years

[upper sun]

my parents wouldnt let me go to clown school

thats the next best thing

[lethal lagoon]

Your parents knew that would only hold you back.

How can the peasents teach a god?

[supple dock]

4D Clowning

[lethal lagoon]

[supple dock]

https://tenor.com/r0bwcLTv179.gif

the true machine god

(nah, not true, but definitely up there)

[upper sun]

its tru

i have an actual admech seal of purity

[stable hare]

Should have mentioned that im considering Empathic evasion for a purg build

[supple dock]

oh then yeah no brainer

ee way to go

[upper sun]

ye its good there

[supple dock]

purg has crits for days, not because of a necessairly high crit rate (which I think it is?) but the rate of fire and the consistency at which you can do it (ammo is a renewable resource)

[stable hare]

my purg build, anything looks off?

[upper sun]

looks good to me

but i dont go warp siphon

something about picking BB without the upgrades makes me feel icky

[supple dock]

uhhh

I'm not a fan of perilous combustion/wildfire on purg

creeping flames sure I guess but you already have a direct source of fire

You don't need to squeeze every last drop of damage from it cause you always have more

that's my logic on it anyways

[midnight jolt]

I wanna have a 2nd class besides psyker for weeklies, but wanna play something fun, is veteran boltgun/plasma fun?
not sure what to go for melee wise which I also utilize a lot

[upper sun]

no vet is bad

[midnight jolt]

Zealot could also be another choice but I already played a Zealot on my old gamepass account and got bored of it, completely moved to Psyker

"No, vet is bad" or "no vet is bad"?

[upper sun]

vets bad

[supple dock]

vet is fine, clad is just a hater

[upper sun]

its the one class i cant get into

zealot and ogryn have fun melee ogryn has crazy carry potential with a lower skill cap

i've saved games by just spamming heavy attacks and pressing F then ressing everyone

[lethal lagoon]

Ogryn's a weird skill cap. Cause Ogryns are either pretty good or aggressively bad.

It's almost like a switch. You are either an immortal rage machine or a paper plane destined to reach the ground.

The discoure kinda matches it, people's biggest complaints on Ogryn are either "too easy" or "too easy to die"

[midnight jolt]

I may end up with all classes, let's get a vet going 😂

[signal sluice]

Have you considered the 7.5% toughness regen on warp kill talent (at the top left) instead of the middle toughness regen talent?

The purg staff can horde clear and regen toughness faster than you can take toughness damage most the time.

[upper sun]

yeah but warp siphon is too fat

thats why i dont take it too many fun talents left out

[signal sluice]

I’d also consider the Kinetic Resonance brainburst talent, it allows you to do reliable boss/monstrosity killing, without changing to Empowered Psyionics or another weapon.

[supple dock]

not really necessary on purg if you have mettle

You crit so often that it doesn't impact...anything

[signal sluice]

True true. But he still needs a pathway down to Brainburst. And warp kill toughness regen on Purge helps more than the central nodes.

[supple dock]

Not a bad pickup in really shitty situations

and it's fine to just have

But mettle takes care of literally everything for purg toughness gen

[signal sluice]

Yes it do. I’m not debating that or ignoring that factor.

[supple dock]

Mmhm!

Just pointing out some min/max stuff

[untold niche]

after new update(s)
my game sometimes will go mute for like 5 sseconds

bad stutters too

anyone else

[supple dock]

Negative. How long have you played since the update?

[untold niche]

it used to go mute only for like a split second

[supple dock]

Like how many minutes

[untold niche]

around 2 hours?

[supple dock]

Hmm. okay.

[untold niche]

each game it happens

its not rare

[supple dock]

Yeah that's a weird one man. #🎒support-issues might be your best bet

It's none of the common issues I hear around here

[signal sluice]

My audio stutters happen if I haven’t played in a while, and they go away after 2-3 games played from start to finish.

Like Kusu says, the support issues channel should help for queries.

[broken carbon]

me too

there’s a few people on the subreddit and forums that complain about it as well

my issue has gotten better lately for some reason

but idk why

still happens sometimes

[agile salmon]

in lore would it be possible for psykers to have different color witchcraft or is it always icy blue?

[broken carbon]

it varies pretty notably

[supple dock]

Psykers aren't mages pulling from the exact same elemental entity

[broken carbon]

depends on the writer and the game

[supple dock]

They're warping reality

So there's no real rhyme or reason to their powers

[broken carbon]

some people say that most imperial psyker powers are more blueish white, like we have

(same color that grey knights have been described as)

but really overall it’s any color

[supple dock]

Huh, that's actually pretty cool

[broken carbon]

like pyromancer psykers in rogue trader have normal yellow flames

[agile salmon]

so the possibility of my psyker having different colored psychic abilities is feasible enough?

[broken carbon]

probably not

if u mean like

in game them adding more psyker colors

[supple dock]

from a roleplay perspective yes

actual mechanical perspective no

I think it'd be pretty hardcore to see someone's skin and armor sloughing off of them from a rainbow colored hellfire

[broken carbon]

that’d be cool

like an anti armor fire

that adds brittleness or something

idk how it’d be balanced

but it’d be neat

[supple dock]

Make it the purg staff's special button

[broken carbon]

or it could be a melta variant

[supple dock]

Swaps all active fire to the alt fire

[broken carbon]

normal melta does its normal thing

but melta variant has a high cleave armor degradation fire beam

[broken carbon]

but what would make the fire difference

would it just inflict brittleness?

[supple dock]

imo? Tank the damage modifiers of everything that doesn't have armor and bump up all armor

Just the inverse, so you can only kill one type at a time