#psyker-class
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whats it gonna do? give me 25% flak instead of 20% flak on my weapons?
Grind out all of the blessings. Each weapon type, each class, each tier
i already have good to great versions of everything like
The Blessing Holy Grail

i dont have 60k plasteel
and i kinda already have a good peesword with brutal/pcycle 4
Worth it
Already have
Every blessing, every class
ez, ready for that 0 day max crafting
I am now just hunting smykers
ive been melkmaxxing blessings since i started playing
Milk maxxing
so many unbelievers IN this very chat doubted me
I got power cycler 4 from melk
"oh noooo dont do weeklies on 5 chars what are you gonna do with all those melkbucks"
I got cancer from Melk
Imperial edition should give you the ost, right?
Not doing a good enough job
no but it does give you some plasteel
Mother fucker
Not only did I have to queue for normal damnation bc no one on auric
I also had a smyker
I spent 22 hours attempting to pull a poxburster into a smyker
ur not getting that game key
@abstract arch was popping me with barrels the entire time
I wonder what they're gonna cook up after crafting
Maps
maybe finally we get a custome game mode where we can change wounds/enemy hp/amounts of enemies/ammo drops
itll be so sick
No
fuk u
they should make a consistent low intensity damnation up on map so broke people can get some mats
That is damnation as of now
700-900 plasteel in 17 minutes is the dream ๐ญ
Event spawns are broken
not always
New one just so big more things spawn
Which is why doing 50 of the fucking maps sucks
Fatshark added 2 ragers to the end of hordes and everything broke
Nah, the new map had some fuck shit monstrosity spawns when it dropped
Least FatShark FatShark moment
Once I learn the new map's nurgle idol spawns, I'll get a consistent 900 plasteel a map again ๐

shut up as if you're not as broke as i am
I'm not broke 
Sitting at 159k plasteel
MODS BREAK HIS FEMUR
Lol poor
I'm only broke in real life 

MODS BREAK EVERYONES' FEMURS
I'm close to 200k plasteel and over 11m dockets, I'm ready for the update. Can't wait to get 1% stronger weapons 
I was at docket cap and at 361k plasteel
Was? What did you buy? 
All of the new blessings
a-all of them?
Ye
damn how much did it cost?
Anyone with krieg psyker cosmetic set?
41 million

if you wanna rip it i'm sure its in the game files somewhere
For the drip?
๐ค rip as in you wanna download the meshes?
i use these for my gmod posters
having bought the veteran set i've obtained it's gasmask and helmet
but not the psyker
ye
buy it then refund it 
not avaliable 
but i'm sure there is a way to get it without doing that since i can still see the cosmetics without having them
they gotta be somewhere in the game files
maybe the're in an archive somewhere and the game extracts the sets you buy or some shit
How to eventually get banned

This looks great, a trauma with single-target blasts 
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"Fuck this one guy in particular" energy
Lmb spam trauma
can't play
Surge top tier LMB spam
Microsoft moment
I was able to play before the hot fix 
They revert some shooters change already. Weak.

Did you not read the hot fix notes? 
What popularity is psyker? Id always imagined they came after vets and zealots
no i just saw shooters and evi15 and passed out from glee
Sounds about right, it's arguably the most difficult class
That is ugly 
Probably the least just cause it's not the most straight forward class
Veteran, you aim and shoot. Zealot, you charge in and die. The ogryn, you charge in and win. The psyker? Either controls the game or controls which player they watch
How so?
Is it the shields that allow you to potentially save a run, the sheer crowd spreading of a trauma staff, or the crowd stun of an occasional smite? Or all of the above?
Trauma shenanigans.
And one more question since psykers are probably the most likely to know, how would I get better fps besides lower in game settings?
Ogryn is least popular for sure
There might be mods that increase your fps, by getting rid of even more unnecessary stuff from the game, or you edit the game files. I saw some people basically playing with Playstation 2 graphics 
I dont think I need something that severe, Im just getting frame drops when a billion enemies spawn
just zap
you are so real for that
i fucking hate zealots
Aight I just crashed 3 times in 20 minutes what the hell
Fartshart seal of quality.
There's a handful of good zealots per region, and you can't tell them apart from the bad ones when they have a bad day
Can't fathom how optimization is as neglected as it is.
they've been on vacation 
THERES 5
5 Crashes in under 30 minutes on below minimum settings
With specs that definitely meet the requirements at that
Genuinely considering just deleting the game for space at this point
I can remember being locked in place from lag spikes unable to dodge sniper fire and taking damage that could've been avoided.
This is legitimately among, if not the most poorly optimized game on steam right now
Ill be running VT2 at 120 fps using raytracing before I get 60 fps on minimum settings on Darktide
are you using any mods?
Im not
hm okay
You could try disabling raytracing in the config file.
Already have
Damn.
what specs are you on?
and sorry for asking the questions u have been probably asked a million times; have you updated your graphics drivers?
me when i ran away from a chaos spawn into the arms of an angel(a trapper)
RX480, Ryzen 5 2600 and 16 gb ram, have said before that I dont entirely think its the game but it even ran better around release than it does now
Could run medium/high at 60fps with almost no drops and rare crashes, now I cant even run low
hello everyone. does anyone want to help me with Malleus Monstronum? I can help with any penance you want in return
im down but there arent many good maps up for it rn
i never get bosses until the end of silo cluster
same for power matrix
i am in strike team 4 channel if you want to help me with that
ohh
wait a minute for new missions
eh i dont do vc
ok, can you give me your fatshark id then?
ye its in my name
gg
@upper sun thank you so much
no problem
Are you secretly good at the game?
i am "ok"
if you use trauma you can be better
trauma breaks the game because its so weak
Broke my game so bad I can't play anymore
๐ญ Microsoft moment
Being poor moment, Series X can play it seems 
nah its on Microsoft
Cheating 
So apparently executor stacks per tick on deimos and obscurus specials, but not exorcist
Kinda lame
Exe > Exo
Hahaha, quelling the peril you used on the activation of special
exorcist is for "repeating" hits
Wtf
How the fuck am I supposed to do Perilous Focus 
That's so fucking busted
Yeah, executor is basically a straight buff to the special
Which would be cooler if the special wasn't awful 
The feeling when deimos is a better eviscerator than eviscerator is
But at least it's a cool interaction
I wish exorcist worked for it
Would be nice to chain specials with the ticks reducing your peril
Gaze into Agripina infantry autogun
Recon 7a
Illisi
Uuuuh
I find mostly the force swords are powerful enough to kinda just wield while your peril drops but I feel ya
I use deimos, but I guess I ll try those
Yeah, my issue is mostly, like
Both of those ranged weapon have some cleave
Emphasis on some
I am comparing their power to the power sword mk6
Which is incomparable because the mk6 is on a league of its own
You don't need to commit to a last tick and get funny horde clear
Deimos is essentially a worse power sword mk6 to me and it stings, because I really like the concept of force swords and magic fighters in general
is that the warp siphon one or the disrupt destiny one?
Also
I'm gonna have to do that smite penance somehow
Ugh
Time to ruin the game for everyone else
One gaze 40 enemies dead
Illisi is in my opinion one of the highest tier weapons in the game for general use lol
It would help if they brought back endless horde 
Oh, they un-buffed shooters. Quickplay players rejoice

Wait shooters was buffed?
๐๐๐wtf ddnt even felt
right...
Siblings someone please speak the holy words of how to make a good assail build
you can do either of those
Thank you sibling
Cool surge is my fav
Can't you do scriers as well if you want it to be really crazy
surge for the EP one also the DD one if you're okay with missing out on some weakspot damage
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i mean you can
I dont trust myself well enough to do scriers gaze on anything except gunker
and generally people who can run gaze dont ask about builds 
I could always try no guarantees on my survival or my potential as a human explosive
assail is the worst j-just one more shard wont hurt
i need someone to do malleus monstronum w me its the last penance i need for psyker besides 100 missions
do you have the game running?
yeah
nah its fine click social then find player use the code in my name
do you have a build ready?
yeah
Oh wow, and I'm already done with the smite penance
Let's ignore how fast peril builds up if you're past 15 seconds
@upper sun thank you
no problem
Guys
I'm gonna save this
For crafting rework
Is this good one ?
I mean good weapon on psyker
ye its good for gunker
I use to use shredder on gun psyker
But holy shit
This things damage compared to that is insane
yeah shredder is a bit undertuned
and it doesnt handle very well tbh
even after the caig nerfs i still prefer it to the other guns because of how well it handles
Or not ignore that and consider the interaction with quietide
2/4 though?
Yeah, I meant are you going to buy it. Or are you looking at the store and canโt access your pc
nah im buying it rn
That's a very nice shield
Cause that is a perfect shield atm
am i too broke to roll it however lets see
Will still be dope come autumn
thank u thank u
Ideally unarmored to maniac but otherwise itโs perfect for gunpsyker
goto vox channel if u need ppl to play with
To be fair to the change enjoyers - I too would like the game to be more difficult, but I think there was something very busted with the director in 50%+ of the games I were in. The gunner changes just did not feel consistent encounter to encounter, game to game.
I hope they take it back to the drawing board and come back with something more nuanced/refined.
Idk i think they did something
like random games have a chance of spawning 200 ragers or 30 crushers now to get people to shut up about difficulty
Idk, I haven't tried the game since post-hotfix, so it'll be nice to compare the experience once again. Long-term tho, I don't see why they would implement enemy changes until we feel out the impact that itemization rework/increased loadout agency is going to have on the game. My hunch is that there will likely be power creep once people get to choose their blessings/perks, and they'll need to compensate in the opposite direction.
yeah i agree i dont want difficulty to change until the need for plasteel is reduced
That too, I'm so tired of the plasteel grind
i cant enjoy a loss as an opportunity to learn when i have 4 kids to feed
I have so much useless diamantine
Must be nice being able to play 
game broke?
Something went wrong with the hot fix for Xbox Series S 
F
Dozens of people can't play 
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play The First Descendant
its a looter shooter with uhhhhhhhhh nice uhhhhhh "art"
@marble crater check news
yeah ummm
i was gonna let him find out the funny way
i just did the tutorial and it crashed
Nah bad clad bad clad smh

I just wanted to show ot a friend how hadron bricks weapon and she gives me this
show your friend my revolver
its ok
and the base stat are not even that good
, well CC dump stat, I don't know how it affect the weapon tho
between this and the 380 bolter that rolled reload 2 i've had enough hadron for a lifetime
weapon stagger reduction , kinda sad with opportunist but it's still ok I guess
if you get something better you can take thrust off it
thrust 4 is really nice on it even if you cast heavies ASAP you minimum get 1 stack which is still huge
The reviews are funny at least "I deleted Fortnite for this"
my sibling in the emperor they're about the same as darktide's
I will check out the art until Darktide is working again 
I wonder how much power is one stack tho
But I can easily chain overhead heavy with those maul I found so it's works really well
20% power 
siblings im gonna be unavailable for duty for 2 weeks. emprah allowed holidays.
pls bully FS into rework until im back, thatd be great.
cu
wait 3 stack = 60 power ?
yes 
Quick maths
dont have too much fun!
local psyker finds out about thrust
^
I knew it was good but never tried the math in the psykhanium
thrust goes on all weapons it can idk what the ogryns say
Now you know why zealots are desperate for that thrust 
flak crit goes on all weapons 
No
yes
Bad clad
mmh I do wonder who I pick, usually I pick flack or Maniac
k-keep c-crit
Crit is kept , me brain boy ,me likey crit
but the +% against specials can go eat shit 
yeah
Ima pick Carapace to bonk Mauler on the head with the riot maul
see how you like it now play a couple of games and see if you wanna reroll the second perk or the blessing
thats what i usually do when i'm not sure what to change
id like something with stun on block and thrust not sure which blessings tho
I do like High voltage though
Why do you want unarmoured on shield?
especially since it works with smite
muh break points or something
idk ogryn recommend it why what do you have on yours?
I tested it I could 1 shot headshot both bruisers without unarmoured on my shield.
I have flak unyielding.
eh it does fine against reapers and bulwarks idk
You have to headshot to kill scab bruiser. But it would kill in 1 shot heavy 1 without unarmoured.
also i dont run heavy hitter
I tested it without any heavy hitter stack.
I'm just saying you don't need it for bruiser breakpoint. You can run if you want.
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That's why I always test shits. Since guides are often lul 
Guides are pretty opinionated.
it does perfectly fine on maniacs and unyielding from what i played with tbh another option would be like elite?
I always take flak and unyielding on bleed weapons since they take extra bleed damage.
More monster damage is always good since people are real bad at dealing with monsters.
๐ค yeah actually that sounds good
I am not a fan of + elites. It's too small at 8/10% compared to 20/25%. The only time I take elite is for the p sword 6 breakpoint. But even then with bulwark buff you can't 1 shot them anymore.
yeah
Can still kill crusher with 1 chain with + elite though if you take + melee damage talent on vet.
So + elite is still useful there on p sword.
eh i dunno im not much of a vet person
Like people here love flak and elite on surge but maniac is so superior imo.
What do I know I am not a surge main or anything. 
my best peesword has flak 3 elite 3 and its still not as good as a deimos
theyre locked 
Just craft better. 
i havent rolled a single one with free perks
oh no wait i have one peesword with brutal momentum 1 
thats a free perk for ya
Unarmored, Flak, Skullcrusher and Brutal Momentum for 4 bruisers at once one shots 
I know bm tiers don't matter that much but I refuse to if it's not at least t3.
15% weak spot damage on p sword is good it has really high finesse scaling.
i had one axe with brtual 3 until i unlocked brual 4 and it just felt better
Yeah my rashad/antax both have bm4 and headtaker 4.
anecdotally i'm 100% right 
Veri op axes.
Flakiak is 100 percent De' Way on surge imo
As a surge main as well
These days I find mk3b club with flak unyielding haymaker skullcrushers work best for me.
A bit weak crushers killing power but it munches horde veri well.
Wait so should I be using weak spot on DS4??
flak elite 
No p sword is power sword 6 from veteran.
Definitely not
And the weakspot damage is from the blessing. You use maniac and + elite on p sword.
Fyi, you want skullcrusher over thrust on new maul. Keep high voltage
if you're locked to weakspot its not that awful on ds4
ds4 has such a big gap between hit and weakspot that it does something
On ds4 I personally like maniac and carapace.
but ideally carap maniac
Iโm excited to put carapace on my โperfectโ dsiv with update. I have unyielding on it atm
Perfect? 80% all damage stats?
im excited to have a ds4 with the update 
Yeah, 80% on everything and 60% on cleave

It has riposte on it atm. I still am unsure if I like riposte or shred more
For normal game riposte is better for me. For twins/melee scab only I prefer shred.
Although I have 2 ds4, one is with ramapge, one with shred. I use riposte on ds5. 
Only veri cool people use ds5 over ds4.
It got buff? Or was that only the 2
ds5 is just easier to hit with
So it's cooler. 
and kinda wonky
I almost wanna put rampage on one cuz it struggles in hordes
Is ds5 better for hording?
No.
I use blaze trauma or sometimes purga with ds5. So I purely use it for muties and crushers.
It'd kill mutie fast, crusher would take longer than ds4 but it's still good.
And the dodge is 15% distance so no crusher can ever touch you.
I rolled a near perfect DS5 that I never used 
What do you use for your surge build then? I use ds4 or illisi depending on how bad I'm playing lol
Always illisi.
It's just so good as a "oh shit" moment breakout
can you guys convince me to roll illisi or deimos for flame trauma build
Deimos if you donโt want dueling sword
You can use any melee whichever is more comfy for you.
unfortunately deflector is cool
If you play blaze trauma you'd be on staff 90% of the time.
so it's inherently between those two
If you play deimos go deflector uncanny. If you play illisi go deflector slaughterer.
Or be like me and donโt use deflector 
does unlocking perks on one apply to the other...
ds4 is kinda better than deimos
im using it because it is cool only lol
Ya, but he wants deflector I guess
Cool thing about deimos now is you donโt need maniac to hit one shot mutie bo
Bp*
๐ค chat is this real
which sword is more fun
h2 can with a few uncanny stacks afai
Uhh not if you're at 0% peril and no warp charges.
theyre all fun
I always do my breakpoint without any buff.
True. But in gameplay I will never not be at complete 0
be opinionated
i like doing defence deimos for maximum memes
hyperbole
True that's why I take maniac on my deimos anyway.
Even with maniac my heavy 2 deimos does 99% damage. So in a real game it would actually 1 shot h2 mutie.
sounds like you need a better deimos
if i strip slaughterer off a deimos can i use it on illisi
Yes, force swords share blessings
i got it on a deimos that's not super well rolled
Yes
can i explode guys with illisi or is it just a power sword
and is that fun because ive never rolled that either
It's not either
I'm almost sure my deimos one-shots mutants without maniac, but I use warp charges and possibly had them stacked
It's like devils claw mixed with psword
my impression of the devil's claw is... not great
are you saying that as a positive?
By devils claw I mean mindless lmb spam will get you out of most situations.
hmm mindless lmb spam is kinda goated when you dont got someone in your ear telling you to pick a weapon that combos...
You can heavy 1 light 2 combo for nice flat horizontal sweeps
My deimos.... the only good emperors gift I have every gotten
what the hell
free blessings
a gift from the god emperor himself
god emperor telling you to get off the game ๐
im gonna make the zealots mad rq one sec
It is very strong for a "yes" option for horde clear. Any build that needs horde clear in masse a well built illisi will shred through nice
HOLY SHIT
Works okay on mix ins too when you charge it
can yall give me an assail build, I need to do the penance
assail penance or ep penance?
Close range changed to 12.5m
pick assail, hope that helps
My columnus is going to EAT today
wait until you hear about evi15 changes
keeps reading
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and yeah braced autos are gonna go hard
assail
do yall fuck with the XIIIg chainsword on psyker
@narrow herald
I'm a duel sword and combat knife enjoyer and it's time to break out of the shell
Chainswords have INSANE horde clear on psyker due to the finesse bonuses we vet
I got a green with all 80s and it ended up with all defensive blessings and perks
oh werd
Unfortunately that's all they do well
that's fine tbh
Try the swords out
I can only enjoy the illisi so much, but I love my deimos
It's a bit faster. Always a nice change. Should feel smoother now.
You can pair assail with anything really, to be fair. I played it with trauma, purgatus and voidstrike so far
at least to finish this stupid penance
this psyker guide says you can build an illisi for flames whatchu guys know about that
I never get sick of illisi lol the combos are just so reliable and smooth
It's a meme, don't do it 
Feel like a jedi with illisi
it is, and deflector rocks
deflector is real space wizard shit
I have not pulled out my fire illisi in a while
wiith the new weapon and I am always happy to pull out the ol reliable tho
Personally hardly ever use deflector anymore I use mostly uncanny and slaughterer for illisi
Obscurus > *
with the bubble and the "magical dodge" you can do without deflector, but when gunner get going, it's nice to have one more insurance
i take that bad boy out to block and tell flanker poxers to fuck off
Assail trauma. 
But no Psykentic's Aura 
one of the illisi perk is to igive blue fire on crit hit
So you wack and kill and fire spread with the wild fire perk
F
LMB weapon
I do like terryfying barrage with trauma tbh
ew
stamina is oof

its been sold
should have surrender for the lvl 3 perk
since already earned perk gives you a boost for the reworkd (assuming big fish ain't lying )
already ahve ti
Based take.
im going trauma assail
no you don't 
oh no no we dont do that here
i hope it makes you cry
crafting update will fix it
its been sold
you may have lvl 4 tho but welp
It's fine, the quell speed was low anyway 
but can be greater
do you have to finish the run to get malleus monstrorum?
That quell speed is worse 
No
You get it right after killing the boss
silence filian
pog maybe i can train my friend to do 4s and we can each grab it
technically its a buff bc now its easier to stay above 80%
no
what is quell cancelling this guide keeps saying it but idk what it is
I would just look for deals at brunts and melk and otherwise save my resources for the crafting update now
You cancel an animation by quelling at the right time and then you are super pro
imma turn down all my gun to hadron so i can get all those sticker in my book
It's not necessary to clear the highest levels though, you really don't have to be mechanically gifted to play this game, most of the time.
dont listen to him minmaxx everything including your skills

U cancel the atk animation at the right timing by quelling
you can always be better, do more damage, do more actions per second
It allows u to shoot trauma/void/surge projectiles & purgatusโ flame burst faster, and use surgeโs lightning a bit faster
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Itโs kind of block cancelling attacks at the right moment on melee weapons except u press R to quell in this case
wait a second why would i ever do that
It is an importnatn skill
more damage more faster
some stuff is also just better that way
like ogryn shield if you spam sprint it loops heavy 1
very finger hurty tho
Eh, I don't agree. Sure it's great if you can do it, but it's not necessary to be able to do it at all
incorrect
whats the point of playing the same maps over and over again if not for the self gratification of GETTING BETTER?
I think they reduced the attack duration for staff primary to bridge the gap between normal people and the ones who mew
this psyker guide says to run stun shield instead of bubble but i have literally never seen anyone use that over bubble
is that cap
Stun shield is poggers
dockets and plasteel hello????
i already have good to great versions of every weapon
Don't feelseh me @lethal lagoon I play on controller with no advanced movement tech or quell canceling and I clear Auric perfectly fine 
the ogryn shield i just rolled wasthe only improvement i had in 700 hours
yes but you need everything for the crafting update NEVER stop grinding
One of the things about the game is that you don't actually need healing skills to do well in auric damnation
i wasted 10k plasteel upgrading bolters yesterday
I'm first in damage in literally every public game I play. Most people typing right now also have the same experience. The unwashed masses are not to be used as a reference for anything.
meh
Bubble, VoC and chorus are all polite suggestions
it's not wasting it's investing
keep the grindset
ok lmb gatling looks way more fun that normal lmb
OH ALSO
It's actually more fun to not use them ngl
the builds in the guide are kinda dependant on what you like
Because bubble is easier to use for most people
as long as you have the right keystone for the right staff any ult is fine
as well as any blitz
Nah, it's more that bubble seems a lot better than it actually is.
It's not my video it's some unsanctioned guy. I am too noob to actually do fancy stuff in a real game.
Buuble is nice but nothing beat the satisfaction of seeing a muty slam into your wall
It's main character syndrome mostly.
Bubble's greatest strength is one people don't use
this is exactly what i needed to know
It erases shots

its super nice on purge lmb spam
Bubble is good because if you're in it with your cohesion bonus you're basically immortal from regen
Now you have a big fuckoff dome of cover
it depend , I bubble friend and shooter alike depending on whom is the closest to me
Wall is better for bb spam
I think this unsanctioned guy play a full round only spamming lmb on burga with quell cancel. He's real good.
And got top damage too somehow. 
its true i had to stalk him on on youtube to see the game veri nice
Really? He's like one of the worst youtubers, tons of misinformation.
Yeah I dislike all his videos tbh.
Too cocky and use too many mods. Cheater. 
I hear he was carried by a lvl 6 psyker
unironically tho
BTW Brain Stack CD now works with Scrier's gaze, I don't know when they fixed it but it's nice
WTF
Yeah basically.
@plucky flax if you ever match with a playtester on trauma dodge
Scrier's gaze is still meh but eh
I have video proof of him being carried by a level 6 psyker.
you'll get that shit nerfed
Scriers is the shit
I heard his dog took away his mouse that's why he went down (He has no dawg)
Or maybe cat idk.
Gunker is hands down the best damage output psyker csn do albeit cheesy as fuck
i used to be able to kill a crusher with a full mag now need 2
but it is still the best feeling and most accurate auto gun
I think his brother jumped on his pc during that moment.
Exposed

Did they nerf it more or just rhe crit chain thing?
idk but its a sizable nerf
Just crit string
And then technically buffed today because โclose rangeโ got redefined
apparently you need a braced autogun so me no likey
So it now holds max dmg out to 12.5m instead of 8m
you're the only person that i trust to answer this but is it just me or ciag more accurate on hipfire than graia?
Idk, check ur stability roll?
I donโt use them that much
its maxxed on both
You don't "need" any specific gun really the point of gunker is it does big boi damage with just about any gun
Check what the spread parameters are in the stability stat
if you want to shit out the big big damage I don't think you'll suceed with a regular autogun tho .
I do enjoy playing gunker but scrier gaze i have trouble keeping it going
Idk it's a non issue for me. I use gunker with recon 7 or ciag and that shit fucking shreds on damn auric lol
Finished my game. Animation canceling makes surge staff an s tier from an a tier. Animation (quell) canceling really turns trauma into the invulnerable/dmg staff that it is
I'm not saying it's not useful, I'm saying it's not necessary to play well
u play on a controller all the tricks are easier for you aside from aiming
I said it is an important skill to learn. Not that it is necessary
Okay, so it's not important then, what 
Nothing is "necessary" in this game. It isn't THAT hard
If you can clear Auric without ever learning the skill then it can't be called important
Then I disagree. You are leaving dmg and safeness on the table by not doing it
You can clear auric with grey weapons... I would still call blessings and perks important
Yes, I'm not disagreeing with that, just that people need to learn it
@lethal lagoon 
what else is there to do in the game?
Have fun without breaking your fingers
nah its good practice like punching sand or the rice bucket thing karate practicers do
the more you do it the less they hurt
Tbf, I have no clue how you do that stuff on a controller so maybe it does suck to try. Keyboard/mouse it is very easy
Hmmm today I will optimize my ogryn shield bashing
when using Perfect Timing the Warp Damage is that only like force weapons specials and staffs?
sadly, yes
Anything blue & glowing

typing pickle
I'm pretty sure that no matter which button layout I would use I need to take my fingers off the sticks for one of the actions, and if not then I don't have another important action on the bumpers or triggers. Now I could probably remap them on my elite controller to be able to do it, but I would still give another important thing up for it. Right now I need to take my finger off the aiming stick to quell, which already makes quell canceling a lot more inconvenient 
Back paddles ftw ๐
huh
Blitz canceling for surge requires an entire extra action, because we can't switch directly to ranged weapons, so I don't even think it's that viable on controller
Unironically, I really wanna do this now
Double claw will always be waiting for you 
I do have two, I'm using them for the combat ability and switching to blitz, because it's more comfy than using the dpad for both of those things, so I can keep moving while doing it
dpad is one of the worst parts of playing thsi game with the controller.
It's really annoying to switch to the blitz.
I was hoping some super electronics expert dude could give me some advice. How do I get this http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cherub-WTB-004-Keyboard-Sustain-Pedal/dp/B000UDVV6E to work with my computer? I
Some layouts have ping on the dpad, if you should ever wonder why controller players don't ping enemies
"Why go through all the trouble, when you can just buy exactly what you are looking for? A USB Foot Pedal made for PCs"
First answer is literally me

Itโs ok most pc players donโt ping enemies either
Itโs usually only high lvl players & veterans tagging
I should do it more, I have it on the right bumper, so I don't have an excuse for not doing it more often, but most of the time I kill what I ping, so meh
need to change my name to iPingBulwarks
If I can do 1 mil damage in 34 minutes not using blitz cancel then that's good enough. 
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surge is still a tier without ani cancel
ani canceling just makes it feel like it tdid with the smite buff
I mean.... without shriek it really is pretty mid.
Good for me I only use 1 ability on psyker. 
Also blaze trauma would also be poop af without creeping flames.
I mean blaze trauma is poop with creeping flames
Not like it's any good right now.
It needs a serious buff
If surge is a tier then blaze trauma is solid z tier.
I think burga is ssss+++++
Unlimited (but worse) zealot flamer 
FINALLY I NEVER HAVE TO USE ASSAIL AGAIN
me with my BB shield shenanigans not wanting to switch
gotta ask, was just in a game on auric damnation, very rough start, psyker vent down at the second drop, 4 snipers, many gunners, yet jsut stood in the open to pop heads. i used shroudfield to pick him up, where he then kept standing still to type and complain the zealot (me) and our 2 vets deal no damage, dies and leaves.
later we get a new psyker, who is absolutely smashing it. another joins (only those two alive at this point) the 2nd psyker says "Oh another Psyker. See ya!" and leaves. luckily the 1st psyker is a true madlad and gets us all even tho multiple people have left. sadly we did not make it, unlucky DH mixed with crusher caught most of the team unprepared, and i cant block bullets as a zealot like the Psyker xD (he was a beast tho!)
so my question is,, what happened tonight? with the insane amount of toxicity (not just from psykers) and especially that 2nd psykers comment?
people returning after the update itll pass
fingers crossed,, tho if that psyker is in here, Grag(something). you are a true beast! sorry we did not make it through after your noble rescue
Some of my favorite games were all Psykers. Idk what's up with that one person. But that's some whacky antics from people.
same! i play all 4 classes, and currently working on zealot penances. outside of specific weapon loadouts (all flamers or something) i have no problems with 4 of a kind
Fortnite brainrot
I need to get back to my zealot pen grind. But all one class is pretty fun. That's one thing I really enjoy about this game, most team setups can work and be fun.
the only time i was unsure, was 2 psykers running purgatus and shock fingers. with 2 zealots running flamers and fire nades XD (i was a zealot) i had joined through quickplay, it was a struggle with snipers, but we managed to clear it (auric heresy)
Oh yeah, that's a pain. Gotta just haul ass out of an area when you can't reach the sniper. Lol
dodge and weave boys, dodge and weave xD
still no one is doing karnak twins xD
booted up damnation, no one joined lobby, got in game, decided to stand still while getting stuff to drink and other bodily needs fulfilled... still no one there ๐
ye at most uprising for weeklies
still not done damnation, or "hard mode" was not very active when it dropped
but cant find people
ye same kinda lost intrest now
and i dont blame people for that. but hoped that with people comming back, at least some people had not done it yet XD
left click at heads
ok ok
I'll probably die of old age by the time I get the EP kills penance
bnah it's easy
I was on a match yesterday where half of the shit I tried to BB kicked the bucket mid-charge
And assail dealt what felt like negative damage
Yeah
most broken thing still rn
I just want my good boy points 
they did buff groaners not making it a cakewalk
I refuse to do EP smite
Brain burst specials
most fun i had with BB was using BB and take gunpsyker route and get EP instead, and go full auto on brainburst
columnus for everything
and then full auto BB after ult
btw, about dumdum:
Not sure if itโs a flat multiplier to the old parameter
Cuz Gale recorded 50m and itโs still working
Smth got messed up in the code
Actually maybe itโs onslaught? If he has that equipped
firing something 50m away wit a ciag is not a pleasant experience
but with an agri or a graia hmmm
I donโt think >12.5m part matters that much tho
it would help getting some bp no?
Well
This close range definition change does 2 things mainly
The first is that everything that works off โclose ranged killโ procs more consistently
And every โ+close DMGโ and โ+close ranged DMGโ got better
Meaning zealotโs Anoint in Blood, veteranโs CQKZ, dum dum, fire frenzy, hit & run, etc are all better than before
However
There is 1 nerf in this
Veteranโs longshot now activates at 12.5m+, instead of 8m+
oof
WHAT
Meaning if you were using longshot to meet breakpoints on gunners & flamers, itโs far less reliable now
long deserved vet nerf
oh i don't care, i don't have enough point to take it most of the time
This doesnโt impact most weapons
However
This absolutely matters for 1 specific build
Weapon specialist + plasma
so idk do i take maniac now for flamer bp
oh fuck
Because that build required longshot for flamer & gunner 1 tap
And itโs not good vs flamer anymore unless u take maniac perk
@autumn smelt
Example here
Iโm shooting at 10m (previously would have been 1 tap)
No 1 tap
This is a 78% dmg 78% SP optimal roll plasma
i have the same plasma, but i was using it in a keystoneless build... so i never knew that i could get that bp
but tbh most of the time i take cara + unyielding on plasma
Basically if u play plasma now itโs just focus target -> redirect fire for best breakpoints possible
Donโt bother with longshot anymore if u donโt want to take maniac perk
I think flak is a lot more useful for plasma than maniac anyways
i think i took longshot only on a bolter build with surgical and focus
This longshot change shouldnโt (?) impact anything other than non-FT plasma
I donโt think it impacts Vraks 7
Nah, not needed
Boltpistol with elite + maniac can hit flamer/gunner 1HS no Crit on veteran
Anyone know if Perilous Focus is bugged?? Been trying to do it for a bit but no luck, just wanted to know if it had any problems being completed
I mean, u took longshot on Boltgun mainly for volley adept anyways
Shouldnโt be that different from this longshot change
How are people accomplishing the Blessed by Fate penance that requires using psykinetic wrath to avoid perils of the warp? I get to 100 and use Venting Skriek and it doesn't register as anything. Do I need to go further, until I almost explode?
U need to go into the โlose controlโ animation and then vent before u blow up
i have only used bolt pistol with deadshot + focus target with stam node
gave me excellent results so i was thinking of adding +20% dmg to it
Longshot was never exactly +20% dmg
Itโs +1~20% from 8m+, linearly scaling up based on distance before
Now itโs 12.5m+
yeah, you need to have your arms in the air doing the gnnnnnnnnnnnn sound
yeah but i was using it for those far away target mostly
I think boltpistol main problem for long range is the sway lol
Cuz it has inverse falloff
It needs pretty heavy left side investment
Precision strikes + determined + deadshot + fully loaded + superiority complex
Pretty costly
I didnโt enjoy boltpistol that much
Itโs an alright gun
But Iโm used to plasma/laspistol hipfire
this is what i use mostly with one point that i am free to reallocate
oh wait, that points not free
I think boltpistol needs redirect fire for dreg Gunner 1hs non Crit?
it goes in stam regen delay
If u use maniac + elite perk
well i use surgical + da + focus target + deadshot
so i don;t bother with non crit bp on it
Great. Thank you
Ig
but that should be important on my zealot tho
what site is this to view current armory like this?
Zealot I donโt think can get the breakpoints with similar consistency
Boltpistol hipfire is pretty bad
hence tknives
Mainly because of low firerate
The 2.5 firerate in stat card is wrong
It shoots at 96rpm in hipfire, 128rpm in ADS
actually run and fire is cool with it
96rpm is the 4th slowest firerate in this game
Slowest is plasma charge shot at 27rpm
2nd slowest is plasma uncharged shot 75rpm
psyker should be able to get better bp with warp charges
3rd slowest is Kantrael shotgun reg shot 93rpm
and maybe warp rider
But none of these guns have cancer Hipfire recoil
Bruh the casuals won
Yes but tbh I just donโt see boltpistol scaling that well with Psyker
Telopots isn't the future of the franchise ๐
Wat happened
you're talking about the gunners?
Shooters reverted
Iโd rather they tune Dreg ragers down a little instead of shooters tbh
i want stagger gone
Like maybe give them atk speed in between current & pre-patch
it was a pain playing ogryn with it
Or make them more susceptible to stagger (longer staggered animation)
Tbh
The shooters were ok (?)
Yea it was totally fine imo but
People who never learnt about sliding were complaining I guess
They were a pain in the new map during the first and last event
But felt ok everywhere else... Probably because we knew the spawns
I wish they made suppression more relevant vs these guys
They shouldnโt recover from suppression so fast if suppression was to matter more
He's gatekeeping a lot. But he has some good ideas too.
Yeah sad revision
They are back to being an enemy you don't know is there
When they buffed flamer yesterday, did they accidentally buffed purga too?

Hopefully not
That's in the realm of possibility
I just want the Dreg rager spam tuned down a little bit
I would be the least shocked
Iโd rather turn around a corner and get blasted by 6 shotgunners than to turn around a corner and see 6 dreg ragers in a circle
Oh we're using the same DMG profile for flamer and purga and ooooops
@near wyvern you know more?
I donโt think the longshot change is unintentional tho
It nerfs weapon specialist plasma in a good way
Well. It depends on your loadout.
My worst fear is 6 crushers and no surge or nades or boltgun
That depends on melee ig
But itโs like, so much more engaging to melee 1v6 crusher/mauler than to melee 1v6 dreg rager
Cuz most of the time uโd pick a melee that does good carapace dmg
Once again tried ogryn haha. It isn't even that ogryn is bad. It is just players are bad. I have found when I play psyker I can easily prioritze specials/elites while taking out the horde. With ogryn I can only do that so quickly. And people just don't prioritze them. So it just becomes overwhelming
I can only load the kickback so fast
While the zealot with a revolver never shoots and kills the groaners. I hate pubs haha
do u guys think manstopper on shotgunker is worth it? cant even find it to buy so far lol
Well there is just too many knife rev zealots which is a high skill spec and a lot of them just dont deliver
Based
Zealots still jumping vs crushers 
T2 blessings, really hard to find at level 30
No thanks emps. No thanks.
yeah it seems really rare so far
You're ready for your 3 wound debut.
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So some people recommended brain burst for empowered psionics farming, why didn't y'all mention that if you use it for special sniping you can get the charge refunded
me when I bb without ep
me when I complete a random mission








