psyker-class

[ornate hamlet]

i dont remember the last time i was randomly dc'd from a drg game so

[frail sand]

actually it really does not, here some mods can even be written in lua

[bold cape]

my fren lives in sydney and i can’t do anything above champion with him, because the lag is absolutely insane
will clearly dodge an overhead and die a second later

[ornate hamlet]

oh no dont go down the drg modding rabbithole

its endless

[bold cape]

maxwell lootbugs >>>

[ornate hamlet]

i played with NA friends for a while but cata is miserable unless ur on some mega cheese build

[bold cape]

yeah

[hardy raft]

was talking about MP mods and not tbh

[bold cape]

my friend plays shade and precise input dependent characters on high ping is fucked

[ornate hamlet]

i would consider drg again if not for the fact i had to wipe my laptop and i cannot be fucked reclaiming the 70+ mods i lost

also I'd probably just burnout super fast again

[bold cape]

id play with ya if you did

drg is one of those games you play a couple matches here and there

its not really a game you can "main"

at least personally

[ornate hamlet]

drg on 200 ping is pretty chill

[frail sand]

something something in darktide there's always heretics to purge

[ornate hamlet]

darktide just scratches the melee combat itch that like very few other games can idk

[bold cape]

high ping drg is fine

er dlc in 3 days
unbelievably hype

[ornate hamlet]

i do not like er

sekiro is the best thing fromsoft ever made and playing er feels like a massive downgradee

[bold cape]

i enjoy all of their games

sekiro and ds3 are my favorite but elden ring is good too

[ornate hamlet]

looking at steam store every day like theres magically gonna be an interesting game that pops out

[bold cape]

real

[ornate hamlet]

if i didnt get dc'd from darktide ever i'd actually just play that for the next 500+ steam hrs

but its so tilting sometimes

[frail sand]

ye really miss the melee in other games, it's done very well in darktide

[bold cape]

dc or crash? i usually never dc

tho my friend who's also in oce dc's a lot too

[sacred crane]

fatshark pls add more capes

[ornate hamlet]

enemies run in place for a while then i dc and get an error message

[bold cape]

aussie internet is just fucked

[ornate hamlet]

it is but I've also seen a bunch of other ppl mention it in this server

[bold cape]

true
darktide is also just fucked

[ornate hamlet]

so yeah aus net very well could be a contributing factor but the servers are definitely the root issue cos like i very rarely if ever have dc issues in other online games

sometimes i get packet loss in games but then everything back to normal after 5 seconds and i resume playing

dt just kicks me out of the game

[bold cape]

im blessed with na city internet

one of the few things that's actually decent around here

ill probably be moving to aus sometime in the next decade
got friends and family there, and i think id rather live my life there over the us

[hardy raft]

anyways DRG least has scuffed multiplayer mods which is why i like it

[broken carbon]

REAAAAAL

elden ring is good

for the first play through

and when i tried to start my second one

[bold cape]

poorly translated dwarves + mission control is peak content

[broken carbon]

i felt absolutely zero urge to play it all again

[bold cape]

thats the problem with open worlds
lots of magic for the first run but that magic is instantly gone on subsequent runs

[broken carbon]

yah

ds3 and sekiro are peak fromsoft

[bold cape]

agree

[broken carbon]

the rest are good just

not as good

[bold cape]

id remove er from existence if it meant i got a tomoe dlc

[broken carbon]

real

the fact that sekiro is the only fromsoft game that hasn’t gotten a dlc is criminal

demon souls might not’ve

idk

point stands

[bold cape]

nope it didnt

not a big fan of des tho

as much as i like the older souls games the combat and bosses feel so archaic and boring compared to bloodborne onwards

[broken carbon]

yeah the faster paced combat was definitely the right move

[bold cape]

4-direction rolling and bosses with 3 moves that could easily be totally voided by just unlocking and walking around them was not it

[broken carbon]

i don’t like the “wait your turn” part of dark souls-esque combat in general, (which is why i love sekiro so much) and it being slower combat just makes it feel so much worse

[bold cape]

i dont mind it, i like it
sekiro is definitely best but gotta give it up for souls build variety

ds3 no hit pickaxe run is the highlight of my experiences in fromsoft games

[broken carbon]

broken broken straight sword sl1 ds3 all bosses is peak imo

cue 7 hour midir fight

[bold cape]

fuck midir

only boss im not confident in nohitting

[broken carbon]

oh i couldn’t nohit anything lmfao

i suck at ds3

[bold cape]

beast bosses suck

[broken carbon]

i think i replayed it only like

[ornate hamlet]

any sekiro lmtsr mod fans

[broken carbon]

9-12 times

[broken carbon]

i have yet to mod sekiro but i’m going to soon

[bold cape]

more of a resurrection fan myself

for the sake of ashina good too

[ornate hamlet]

not even in the discord smh

[bold cape]

:<

[broken carbon]

what’s lmtsr

[bold cape]

long may the shadows reflect

ive played just about every sekiro mod under the sun

[ornate hamlet]

i beat lmtsr mod up to first 2 events on noob version a while ago and then i replayed on hardcore and got filtered by owl father

[bold cape]

shirtless kiryu by far best mod

[ornate hamlet]

my staring at 2b's fat ass while I parry god to the mgr soundtrack

[bold cape]

wow

[hardy raft]

inner fatah

[broken carbon]

what is this bit ur doing

[ornate hamlet]

have u played jidao or any of the other recent cranked to 11 million chinese mods that require the reflexes of jesus himself to beat

[bold cape]

i have not but now i must

[ornate hamlet]

its kinda fucked but i believe in u, if u want the links u can probably find them in the resurection server, its like the central hub for sekiro modding since a while now

[bold cape]

osu flows through me
im sure i could do it

[brazen rampart]

Based.

[ornate hamlet]

Doing this to a boss is rly funny

[stiff falcon]

I heard Sekiro

https://tenor.com/view/sekiro-video-game-moon-fields-gif-17684069

[hearty oak]

You gooning in the official discord

[ornate hamlet]

No just a combination of being extremely tired and mega autistic gives me the capacity for unhinged speech

[stiff falcon]

I hope the ER dlc has an actual challenge

Mommy wasn’t that challenging, 3rd attempt cleared hitless

https://tenor.com/view/elden-ring-gif-19622682

[bold cape]

malenia isnt a good boss imo

feels like a sekiro boss in a souls game
isnt fun to fight even if i am confident in beating her

[stiff falcon]

Not even hard, just has a bullshit second phase

[upper sun]

bro writing essays

[hollow current]

shuddup

[ornate hamlet]

Hey guys here is my essay on why smite SUCKS and you should feel TERRIBLE for using it

[hollow current]

Here's my testing with Riposte and Precognition and the weapon I used to get damage data. All damage in the table is with max uncanny and 15 DD stacks. Carapace and Unyielding had heavy attacks done to the head while Unarmored and Flak had light attacks done to the head.

Things of note.

With + Maniac, this weapon can one hit maniac ragers with 9 DD stacks and a crit heavy attack.
With 15DD and Precognition it took two Uncanny stacks before it could.
This weapon can one hit Mutants with no buffs other than Precognition.

With Precognition and 15 DD stacks, flak manaic ragers are one hits with heavy attacks.
Crits take 7 DD stacks.

Maulers (3000HP) are almost one hit when Precognition crits with 15DD stacks and max Uncanny at 2963 damage. Many minor buffs such as auras or simply Warp Rider may bring this easily past the
threshold.
Precognition carapace hits with 15DD and max Uncanny did 1758 damage, bringing it close to two tapping Crushers (3600HP) with heavy attacks. As above, small buffs can bring this over the line.
However a combo of one crit and a regular heavy will two tap Crushers without needing any external auras or skills.

Renegade Melee (Unarmored) and Cultist Melee (Flak) units have 625 HP and 688 HP respectively. 15DD and Max Uncanny Precognition crits can one hit these while crits alone cannot. But it's not something I would rely on nor would indicate as strong evidence towards it meaning Precognition is better than Riposte when it comes to chaff units.

Riposte seemingly churned through chaff units better on average, but not massively so. Someone else can put effort into testing it out.

Limitations: All testing was done in the boring ass meat grinder. My build and perks may reach or fail to reach certain breakpoints compared to others. Different builds may yield greater benefits from certain blessings over another. Riposte benefits users with a large crit chance increase which interacts with a number of Psyker skills and is not easily seen in the meat grinder and I was too lazy to make the effort. Real games play differently.

Opinion: I will say I was wrong about Precognition alone doing more damage than Crits per hit. I will also say comparing Crit damage to Precognition damage alone is not a truly accurate or fair way to measure these blessings. Precognition damage is short but certain while active, Riposte greatly increases the chance of crits but does not necessarily mean you will receive them on demand. Base damage + ((Crit damage - Base) * Crit %)) may yield a more accurate representation of difference in average damage per hit. An example being Carapace: 1360 + ((2300-1360) * 0.5)) = 1830

Precog crits are the tits.

• Carapace on DSIV is for babies.

@spice veldt @wind spruce Here's some fresh slop

[ornate hamlet]

Im happy for you or sorry that happened.

[upper sun]

illisi goes burrr

[split lance]

lmao look at this charge rate

i got excited then realized this isnt a voidstrike staff

[lethal lagoon]

Its beautiful

#1158835513789272126 message

[split lance]

is it actually good?

i cant tell

[lethal lagoon]

Only you can be the judge

#1158835513789272126 message

[split lance]

join me

ill use it

[lethal lagoon]

[split lance]

[lethal lagoon]

Okay I'll judge, it's bad, but LMB-only memes are kinda fun

[split lance]

im not good enought to do lmb only

[lethal lagoon]

It's actually fairly easy

Just get a mod or a macro so your finger doesn't break.

[split lance]

click heads

[lethal lagoon]

You just line it up and then mow.

[split lance]

i have so many maros

[lethal lagoon]

Nothing can shoot at you because LMB generates absurd suppression.

[split lance]

which of the perks do i swap

[lethal lagoon]

Leave crit chance, uhhh the other perk doesn't matter that much. Probably flak.

Sustained fire to transfer peril.

I would be shocked if you even have transfer peril

But you kinda need it for the memes

or the horde clear won't work

[split lance]

i do

3

[lethal lagoon]

good enough, it's just 1% per tier

[split lance]

okay okay

how in the world do i use smite

[lethal lagoon]

For that build?

[split lance]

yea

[lethal lagoon]

You don't.

[split lance]

i just copied what you had

[lethal lagoon]

I don't use the blitz at all.

Just mk4 for bosses and crushers.

The headshots with the lmb get pretty nasty, you'll 1 shot gunners and stuff while under SG or SG stacks afterwards.

(still a meme though)

mk4 as in dueling sword

[split lance]

what is the f

[lethal lagoon]

Oh have you never run a gunker build before?

Might be a little too early for the memes

[split lance]

nope

[split lance]

also ive died 2x

[lethal lagoon]

Oh you are 100% going to blow up

[regal jasper]

why hadron

[lethal lagoon]

Crit chance and damage in exchange for constantly generating peril. Ability ends at 100%.

Using it with a staff is a very easy way for even experienced players to blow up a lot

I'm used to recommending memes anytime I see a bricked Trauma staff

🙂

But yeah it probably won't be fun to run unless you've had some experience using SG as a gunker.

[split lance]

i have noen

absolutely 0

im missing all my shots

[lethal lagoon]

[delicate dove]

Talking about smite?

[stiff falcon]

If you run smite on gunker you deserve to have every single god roll bricked

[lethal lagoon]

[split lance]

i had to leave the missoin

that was painful

[lethal lagoon]

[split lance]

so so painful

[lethal lagoon]

One day little one, you'll be ready for LMB only memes

[split lance]

im going to sell this

[brazen rampart]

Holy paragraph jumpscare batman.

[split lance]

i want to hit you

[lethal lagoon]

I tell no lies

[split lance]

i want to kiss you

[lethal lagoon]

[delicate dove]

Lmb

It'll kill a horde eventually

[split lance]

joinjed the server for this peepo

[lethal lagoon]

[split lance]

i missed my girl

[lethal lagoon]

[split lance]

any good or trash it

[delicate dove]

Not terrible, but I would just keep buying more

[delicate dove]

I'd say 370 is the minimum for me at least, if the stats are distributed well

[split lance]

blazing spirit isnt used on voidstrike is it?

[delicate dove]

I don't remember it having that 🤔

Never liked soul blaze

[lethal lagoon]

I mean it's not used on voidstrike

But also

[upper sun]

no but crit is alright

[split lance]

bricked

[lethal lagoon]

Would you believe I have yet another bulld for you?

(I don't actually, it's just plain brick, not meme bricked)

[marble crater]

Yes, I'm sure you have no shortage of bad builds

[lethal lagoon]

[bold cape]

wow

[lethal lagoon]

Anyways, time to make a blazing spirit voidstrike

Ranged to flak, sustained to warp nexus

Surely it'll be good

[upper sun]

no

build evi

[lethal lagoon]

yes

[split lance]

sign into my steam

[upper sun]

its gonna get buffed

[split lance]

you find out

bc im not going too

[lethal lagoon]

You lack adventure

[upper sun]

adventure wont pay the bills

i have have ogryns to feed

[marble crater]

You can light hordes on fire while they get one shot

[lethal lagoon]

Think of the memes

[delicate dove]

Big brain

people trying to justify soulblaze

[lethal lagoon]

[stone totem]

How tf are you supposed to regen toughness at a decent speed on this class buds

[lethal lagoon]

[spice veldt]

shlerp up the toughness talents up top

[upper sun]

quell

[bold cape]

peril
and crits

[lethal lagoon]

Psykers are gonna be in coherency a lot too.

So toughness regen spd isn't bad for new players

Slorp up that toughness

[delicate dove]

Getting reliable warp kills is probably the number one source of toughness with the right perk

[lethal lagoon]

[bold cape]

if i took a shot every time you posted this emoji id be dead

[lethal lagoon]

[bold cape]

im even more dead now

[wind spruce]

Psykers get toughness through cope

Aka

[signal sluice]

Get warp kills

[lethal lagoon]

[wind spruce]

Mettle

[signal sluice]

Or peril / quell

[lethal lagoon]

[stiff falcon]

Get warp kills by not quelling

[bold cape]

hmm should i play darktide or a game that respects my time

[signal sluice]

Combust yourself

[lethal lagoon]

Darktide

[delicate dove]

We all know our time doesn't matter

[lethal lagoon]

How did I not know this emote existed

[bold cape]

imagine using

[lethal lagoon]

I don't wanna imagine it

[bold cape]

when you could

[lethal lagoon]

[wind spruce]

Hellmo

[signal sluice]

Imagine the when you can’t figure out the toughness replenishment

[bold cape]

just crit more

[lethal lagoon]

Imagine asking for advice in a specialized class based discord and some weirdo just spamming emotes

[wind spruce]

COPE

[lethal lagoon]

[signal sluice]

Honestly if you want the easiest newb trap safety regen. Take Telekine shield

[bold cape]

shield probably makes you learn bad habits

[lethal lagoon]

Just run the perfect psyker build

[bold cape]

idk i pretty much never used it, ever

[signal sluice]

That’s disgusting

[sacred crane]

but...why

[bold cape]

that’s so hot
how did you achieve 200/220

nevermind im not doing that

[sacred crane]

how tf...

[lethal lagoon]

[signal sluice]

[bold cape]

they should let me take every single node

[lethal lagoon]

All the toughness nodes, and then 4, 5, 5% toughness perks on 17, 17, 21.

[lethal lagoon]

A tisket a tasket, I'm going to burn you in my little psyker basket

[stone totem]

The regen talents sure do exist

Guess it's difficult to utilize when you use purg and deimos xd

[spice veldt]

should be comfy with mettle

or you can take assail if you want maximum safety for that

[stone totem]

Will check on mettle after this match

The quell/gain peril are not enough for 3 ranged trash bullets

[upper sun]

basket purge is love

the only bad thing is that you cant really take illisi with it

and deimos isnt very jerkable for quick peril

[lethal lagoon]

mettle perfect timing is pretty mandatory on Purg

[upper sun]

BM is mid tho

[lethal lagoon]

If I can't crouch in a corner and stroke my Illy, is it even a force sword?

[delicate dove]

true. fondle it and watch it light up

[stone totem]

thanks for the (actual) advice xd

It was like if someone asked for good toughness methods on zealot and someone said "left click "

[signal sluice]

Jokes aside

[stiff falcon]

Dodge

[signal sluice]

Psyker can generate huge toughness from:
Critical hits
Quelling/Peril generation
warp kills.

They're all at the very top of the talents so you grab them first and then build down the tree

Psyker can have very effective crit builds with the right equipment & talents.

[upper sun]

mettle and quietude are the best soulstealer is a close second and warp exp take it if you have a free point

[stone totem]

So it sounds like if I want to keep all of my current options (I also have those talents), I need to BR the ranged when there's nothing to smack or burn near me for EP toughness

Also does deimos' activated count as a warp kill?

[signal sluice]

yes but super ineffective

[delicate dove]

I think so, the charged swords count as warp attacks

[signal sluice]

staff kills generate higher toughness in the moment from warp kills

[stone totem]

Just a shame how slow purgatus builds peril

Genuinely considering rolling for one with dog nuts WR

Especially since I take battle med

[delicate dove]

Been running a Surge + Illisi build the past few weeks, like it a lot though I'm sure it can be improved

[stone totem]

That's another build I've been wanting to play more

Feels so much more servicable from what little I have

[delicate dove]

It's quite fun and reliable imo, I rarely feel hard up for toughness and it's pretty well rounded

though I use warp charges for the peril resistance so I can use my staff and smite longer, it makes it so I never want to use my ability so I can keep the bonus damage and resistance

[signal sluice]

Here is your solution. Lowest warp resist stat you can find in brunt's armoury

[stone totem]

Rolling for it already rn

[signal sluice]

Good luck

[stone totem]

I got 2 good bases but need a blessing in the stickerbook to make either of em better

[signal sluice]

I want a sticker book for my Ogryn

Collect em good

[radiant frigate]

force greatsword when?

[delicate dove]

Honestly would love a lighter forcesword instead, I hate being so slow

[delicate dove]

dey chonky

[hardy raft]

forcesword is p fast tho

[delicate dove]

movement speed?

significantly slower than a dueling sword, and shorter dodge

[rigid sky]

Drop battle meditation then

It's only really useful on either Gaze or EP Smite builds

[stone totem]

Really? It seems to work great on purgatus

[rigid sky]

Except you don't want to uncontrollably reduce peril

[upper sun]

son i dont think ur venting at 86 peril

[rigid sky]

I'm presuming you are Venting shriek

You want to pop that on cooldown at 84+ peril

[stone totem]

Usually able to get it high regardless but that's a good point

[upper sun]

you may not like it but this is peak purge

1 free point

(anywhere except battle med)

[stone totem]

I like what works or is fun so if that works better or funner I like it

[upper sun]

didnt you get the memo?

fun is not allowed

[stone totem]

THAT'S IT, I'M GETTIN ME RECON

[upper sun]

if i catch you having fun im remodding all your curios to hounds/muties

[signal sluice]

We can't really tell you how to have fun.

B U T

[marble crater]

You are right, I don't like it

[signal sluice]

ignore these simpletons and play around until you find something fun

[upper sun]

we dont use warp siphon when given the choice

[delicate dove]

the never-use-abilities surge build I've accidentally created

[marble crater]

[delicate dove]

lmao

[marble crater]

Taking Mind in Motion instead of Psykentic's Aura is definitely one of the choices of all time

[delicate dove]

I always do except for this one because I never use abilities to keep the warp charge lmao, but it is selfish for the team ig

[marble crater]

I just saw no creeping flames, I think I'm going to be sick

[delicate dove]

I ain't spending 2 points on that

[marble crater]

Why not? It's amazing

Same with Psykentic's Aura, Mind in Motion doesn't even do anything

[signal sluice]

I said have fun for yourself, not be masocistic 😂

[delicate dove]

lol

It might look ugly but I've been doing well, maybe in spite of it

[delicate dove]

ahaha

[bold cape]

[delicate dove]

https://tenor.com/view/todd-howard-it-just-works-bethesda-this-all-just-works-gif-20598651

[karmic finch]

At that point just path through crit, you don't need the extra elite damage to kill gunners etc if you are suck at 6 warp charges

[bold cape]

elite over cdr?
mind in motion over psykinetics aura?
wildfire but no pc??
huh

[karmic finch]

The build is based around not using abilities at all, so, CDR is pointless for you, still buffs the team

Mind in motion over PA is just a bad choice and should be swapped out

[bold cape]

wait where tf are you even getting soulblaze from if you dont have pc or creeping flames

[karmic finch]

Elite damage should be swapped for crit imo

[delicate dove]

I'm not using soulblaze at all?

[bold cape]

oh im blind

was looking at something else

but still

insane

[delicate dove]

would lock me out of one with the warp

[karmic finch]

Fair

[hardy raft]

mind in motion is great to use but PA is just one of those non keystone aura nodes that would be on a keystone

[bold cape]

mind in motion is mid
pa is top of the line

insane value for 1 point

[delicate dove]

I know PA is better for the team, just said fuck it for a while since I wasn't personally benefitting from the cooldown reduction, because like I said, no abilities

[karmic finch]

You can already slide quell and dodge quell, you really aren't ever quelling for so long that you need to worry about base movement speed

Especially with max warp charges constantly reducing peril gained

[bold cape]

yea mind in motion is nearly a dead node

in comparison it may as well be

opportunity cost

[radiant frigate]

what, not spending 2 points on the most insane waveclear in existence?

mad

[delicate dove]

My Illisi does fine at that tbh

[bold cape]

also yeah shriek creeping flames is insane, and with warp siphon you can spam the hell out of it cause you get stacks back instantly

[radiant frigate]

well yes but you can press F once and everything in a giant cone is dead

[delicate dove]

be open to it, have to sacrifice kinetic deflection and crit chance tho

do like kinetic deflection for super armor revives

[bold cape]

but yea even if you personally arent getting value out of it id still run psykinetics aura

[delicate dove]

I agree tbh, switched off it on a whim a while ago and forgot

but doesn't make much difference for me regardless

[bold cape]

especially with surge staff and +elite dmg, id imagine you are specifically targeting elites and specials

[delicate dove]

mhm

[bold cape]

so yes
biiig value

cdr is easily one of the most op things in this game if people are actually using their abilities and not sitting on them

[rigid sky]

no lmao

be open to pressing F

if you're not gonna touch your ability then you might as well go disrupt destiny instead for the better crit damage

[delicate dove]

Maybe, I just hate the awful warp resistance without the warp charges though, be quelling 24/7 with surge

[rigid sky]

you know

venting shriek quells you by 50%

have you considered using it

also you only have to quell a tiny bit in between casts

Imo inner tranquility is a trap node

it reduces your toughness gain, on top of diverting you from a toughness gain node in itself

Quelling is so fast, idk why everybody seems to be allergic to it

[delicate dove]

Just my tism I guess, prefer uninterrupted charge and cast even if it's not the best

[bold cape]

agreed
@karmic finch went into it pretty well
replied to it in case you want to read

tldr it nerfs your toughness not only by locking you out of the toughness node, but also nerfs your toughness because peril is psyker's primary way of regenerating it

[rigid sky]

like I'm sure your build works for you

just like I'm sure you can clear auric maelstrom with 0 talent point expenditure

and using greys

I don't think your build is actually actively helping you though.

[bold cape]

its good to know whats best/most efficient
like you can do whatever you want for fun, but it's good to actually know what's better or worse

[hardy raft]

can you do a no talent auric run

[rigid sky]

no because I suck so I need my talents to actually be doing some of the work for me lol

[hardy raft]

really wanna make that build tbh

[delicate dove]

sounds excruciating

https://tenor.com/view/sweaty-speedruner-gif-20263880

[rigid sky]

and I like the power fantasy

[hardy raft]

closest i got was not taking any aura zealot

[stiff falcon]

Ye

[hardy raft]

what did ya use?

time to go pub with it

[stiff falcon]

Knife plasma

Ran away

Ez

[marble crater]

Maybe, the peril resistance is significant. I would say it's an option for people who don't want to quell as much in hectic situations. It's like 3 or 4 more full charged attacks

[hardy raft]

yoo

[stiff falcon]

Advanced darktide tips

[delicate dove]

also, maybe this is petty, but hearing the max peril sound effects every second gets super irritating to me

[stiff falcon]

Just leave

[marble crater]

You can turn the peril volume and visual effects down, I have mine at 70.

[hardy raft]

in where?

[marble crater]

It's not under audio though, top option for options and then under accessibility?

[hardy raft]

does FX also include the

noise

[marble crater]

I know you need to scroll down

Yes

[hardy raft]

why

yhe fuck

fat

shakr

you stupid

[marble crater]

It's noise and visual in one

[hardy raft]

im cooking this stupid company down to a soup

[delicate dove]

"accessibility"

I guess it is less accessible to people who don't want their ears raped every 5 seconds lmao

[hardy raft]

i dont think it does anything to the visuals

idk

might be halucinating

now i will explode much easier at the cost of saving my eardrums

[bold cape]

it does change the visuals a bit yes, the weird effect you get around your screen

but yea that noise was incredibly annoying when i started peril edging

it also makes my tinnitus act up for some reason, no idea why

[marble crater]

If you set it to 0 you have almost no visuals at all

Just a little bit and the shaking

[delicate dove]

lmao, fatshark designing a sound so abrasive it aggravates tinnitus

[karmic finch]

Measuring shots from 0-100 peril is silly and you shouldn't do it

It can lead to making more shots at fewer quell ticks

So it's not like the stat is useless

But you really shouldn't be draining to 0

[stiff falcon]

@molten pond

[karmic finch]

(other than deliberately peril cycling behind cover to get toughness back)

[molten pond]

What are those names?

[stiff falcon]

my characters

[marble crater]

That was more to show that it actually makes a difference, unlike high peril resistance on staves

[delicate dove]

look pretty normal to me tbh

[marble crater]

Normal?

[stiff falcon]

hehe

[molten pond]

Psykers got it tough voice wise

[delicate dove]

I've seen everything

[molten pond]

You either sound crazy or voice so deep you sound like Morgan Freeman

[delicate dove]

1. Smart 2. schizo 3. mad scientist

[molten pond]

Isnt Savant the Smart one? I think they got a black va for that one

[delicate dove]

yes lol, just the male VA I think

I play as a female

[molten pond]

So my character is white and has the male savant voice. I will chuck it up to having deep voice

[marble crater]

Female Loner my beloved... Wait

[bold cape]

i like the loner male voice

insane little german man

[delicate dove]

female savant is my fave, the other two are too silly for me

[delicate dove]

but he is entertaining

[bold cape]

yes

very

might make my vet a woman
i dunno

[marble crater]

Do it

Unless you really love the shout voice lines

[bold cape]

mines male professional rn
fits the look

[marble crater]

Try cutthroat, spam voice of command. Thank me later

[bold cape]

isnt cutthroat the most changed-away-from voice in the scourge lmao

[marble crater]

Yes, but his voice of command lines are easily the best among all vets

[bold cape]

feel like id have to change my drip for that

[marble crater]

Cutthroat is still serious and professional enough, just depressed and jaded, because his planet exploded

Not like the put the karkin boot in hahaha

[bold cape]

got the psword and the plasma
some kind of disgruntled wealthy officer vet

[marble crater]

He looks like a final fantasy 15 character

[bold cape]

man

[hardy raft]

mine

[bold cape]

im way too lazy to spend an hour in for the drip trying to make something else

[hardy raft]

FTD is nice

god i want that outfit on my

zealot

hate that its vet exclusive and others dont get the very sassy coat

[bold cape]

i wish i could just change my appearance for free and set different looks for different loadouts
like drg or similar

cause i like everything to match
gear, voice, weapons
is nice

[hardy raft]

its bit sad

but makes sense tbh

[bold cape]

like imma be real
personally
could not give two shits about the lore
just gimme good gameplay and good fashion and im happy

[hardy raft]

gw does

goodie twoshoes

[bold cape]

maybe a little too much

atlas was going on about a game where you couldnt disable peril effects, because it wouldnt make sense in the lore
absolutely baffling

[hardy raft]

gw

[delicate dove]

wat

"turn off subtitles, they don't exist in the lore" lmao

[bold cape]

same energy yea

i heard devs have to go to them for every little thing they add to their game which is also wild

like
lore is cool
but imo gameplay and overall features in a game take massive precedence over shit like that

[hardy raft]

but lore consistency(gw having no disernable consistency in their novels)

[bold cape]

i also heard about the horrible inconsistencies

im largely unfamiliar with 40k

but yea it all just seems
really fucking stupid to put it plainly lmao

[stiff falcon]

ayy

[hardy raft]

tbh

horus heresy is

basically a retcon over a retcon

the lore was written over several iterations(i think the current one was the 3rd one) and with 30 years total at the very least

[delicate dove]

Night all, thanks for humoring my schizo build

[slender coyote]

with him rn

[stiff falcon]

He’s going to rq, smitker

[radiant frigate]

bubble smite time

[quartz barn]

Ayo why does he look like me tho

[slender coyote]

nah hes goated

oh ur talking about bubble smite

yeha they did

but honestly i sucked in comparison

[hardy raft]

oh yeah

since runngun damage bonus only works while running

i should pull that off from my pruga

[pearl dome]

wait is that a mod ? or i really miss something

[hardy raft]

for the drip mod

extended customization on clothes only for yourself

[pearl dome]

ok thanks

[stiff falcon]

Me and telo only eu players on auric I swear

3 game in a row

[quartz barn]

I mean its 1pm

Everyone is at work/school

[slender coyote]

2pm for me but the point stands

[bold cape]

for the drip + for the drip extra, highly recommend
can mix, match and combine any pieces from any outfit in the game, including from npcs and enemies
highly recommend as long as you don’t care about other people seeing you, you can look however you like without spending a dime

[haughty star]

If you're doing it right you can gain all your charges back from the shriek

Venting shriek wirh creeping basically makes psykers win the scoreboard

Although I 100 percent agree that the elite node is way better in general, provided you have PA

Psyker so strong the damn thing don't work right unless you're at Auric HI

[hearty oak]

And yet you see so many who cant wrap their minds around how they are meant to be played

And use their blitz like a main or worse. Play as a gunker

[haughty star]

I have a friend who mains zealot. I main a shriek/surge/smite and he's always tryna dethrone me from the scoreboard with total damage lol. Even if he ever does get to the point that he's beating my numbers it'll still be nowhere near as useful to the team :/

Shriek is just so ungodly powerful. I use warp charges usually to beef up tje surge but every once and a while ill switch to the old EP if i feel like being a brain dead horde flattener

[radiant frigate]

force greatsword when?

[haughty star]

[hearty oak]

Doesnt need to be a greatsword but a force sword thats like the bloodskal blade from skyrim would be great

[radiant frigate]

the what

[hearty oak]

sword that shoots projectiles from its swings

[radiant frigate]

moonlight greatsword when?

[hearty oak]

I doubt psykers will get anything 2handed

[radiant frigate]

let me dream damnit

[hardy raft]

p sure 2hand forcesword exists in model

unless zealot magically gets

psykic powers

safe to assume its going to go on psyker, if that day ever comes

inb4 40000 years later

[bold cape]

40k will take place irl before darktide is a finished game lmao

[haughty star]

That's all games these days

[bold cape]

eh

[haughty star]

Tryna like Pawgryn

But

Psyker goes so hard

[hearty oak]

No no, psyker is a weak class and needs buffs! Ogryn is definitely stronger

[haughty star]

Can't tell if serious or funni

https://tenor.com/view/pass-the-mayo-gif-22398197

[hearty oak]

🤫 Dont let the devs know how disgustingly strong psyker really is

[haughty star]

I'm still of the reservations that it wouldn't kill the thing to have just a little more toughness lol

Like 100 base instead of 60 or whatever it is lol

[spice veldt]

though the toughness nodes are pretty easy to get compared to zealot/vet (well, besides weapon spec vet, and zealot starts out with 70 so they're not exactly a foot ahead in terms of baseline toughness)

[hexed geyser]

First time i see a 80 curio, i didnt know they really existed

[haughty star]

My +3 Stam

I'm gonna start running ordo dockets tbh

[haughty star]

Is there diminishing returns on ordo dockets?

[spice veldt]

they probably stack additively so in terms of relative benefits with each ordo docket perk, then yeah

[hardy raft]

there is a psyker ogryn

[haughty star]

My psyker blocks better than my ogryn

[lean copper]

they probably don't compound if that's what you're asking

30% max

[haughty star]

Word

[hearty oak]

Ogryn gets a shield that blocks literally everything except bombs and grabs and stun locks everything with its heavies. I think it's a nice tradeoff

[hardy raft]

besides

deflector cant block sniper fire

shield can

ogryn>psyker

[haughty star]

Deflector does all of that but snipers

And traps I g

[hardy raft]

well

ogryn cant block traps either

so

snipers only

[quartz barn]

I do like how people insist that ogryns have worse movement as tradeoff

Meanwhile dodge slide

[upper sun]

@quartz barn
#psyker-class message

i spawned in exactly before that

[hardy raft]

halving your dodge count is definitely an issue

[haughty star]

I can also tank more wirh psyker shield while mobile

[rigid sky]

Comparable Mind take.

Gunker is amazing.

[hearty oak]

I was using gunker with a headhunter yesterday. Very definition of crit fishing cause the normal damage is ass

but the crit damage was ridiculous

[rigid sky]

I haven't tried with a HH tbh

I think you need to hit the head with it (as the name suggests), the bodyshot normal damage is abysmal and also bad damage vs maniacs

Try it with columnus infantry autogun, or an accatran laspistol

Scrier's Gaze + Disrupt Destiny work better on low damage per shot guns with strong finesse modifiers

[hardy raft]

headshot damage is bonkers + crit headshot can be deadily accruate

[upper sun]

guys

uhhhhhhh i have some bad news

were all unsanctioned

[untold niche]

new update?

[upper sun]

25th 😭

@lethal lagoon GO TO SLEEP

[lethal lagoon]

What timezone do you think I'm in?

[upper sun]

the bad one

[lethal lagoon]

[upper sun]

ANYHOW

after talking in the lore channel

because none of us have been to terra we're all unsanctioned

[edgy heart]

Since I didn't talk in the lore channel, I'm sanctioned

[quartz barn]

i dont even go to bed on my own timezone how can i expect you to do the same

i really need to get more sleep

[upper sun]

spend 6 months in a dark room with random flashbangs and random music that blasts your ears out

after that if you dont go crazy you can be sanctioned

[safe fulcrum]

Need advice on what to do with this guy

[lethal lagoon]

Do you have a good blaze trauma already?

[safe fulcrum]

Previous best was this

[lethal lagoon]

That's not a blaze trauma, so no

unarmored -> flak, surge -> blazing spirit

[safe fulcrum]

Going down a lil but also got this

[lethal lagoon]

You can also save it till after the crafting update

Maybe they'll finally fix surge on trama

[safe fulcrum]

Does surge not work rn?

[upper sun]

https://tenor.com/view/bart-say-the-line-gif-22118591

[patent wing]

i wish i could play with EP and DD at the same time

[plucky flax]

Imagine using blaze trauma

[analog agate]

The amount of people I try and help in my pub lobbies with trauma staffs, especially with the surge blessing, is staggering. I am then ignored or insulted

[patent wing]

ive built an abomination: EP assail, scriers gaze illisi + brittle trauma

[rigid sky]

Their feelings are tied up in their delusion of competence

[upper sun]

i have violent food poisoning tried to play a couple of surge games lost all of them due to being SLOW

won the first and only trauma game i tried to play

trauma should be buffed and used as treatment for food poisoning

[plucky flax]

That's impossible. You just surge and win.

[upper sun]

#psyker-class message

this was one of the surge games

i exploded then that happened i got mad and left

[lethal lagoon]

Git gud(download spidey sense)

It feels cheaty, but like, if the game literally doesn't give sound queues, what are you supposed to do?

I just use it for poxxies

[upper sun]

that burster spawned because of rush prevention

its unironically the zealots fault

[lethal lagoon]

Or were you too slow

[upper sun]

u dont play on eu you wouldnt get it

[lethal lagoon]

[upper sun]

there are like 7 different plays all with the same name that just speed run every mission

[lethal lagoon]

[broken carbon]

it works for the primary fire, but not the charge up explosion

[quartz barn]

surge / blazing spirit 4 trauma godroll

[vernal frost]

why are blazing spirit 4 and godroll in the same sentence

[marble crater]

Because it would make for a great staff

[vernal frost]

why would you want either of those blessings on trauma also

[molten pond]

Psyker tips?

[vernal frost]

surge doesnt work and blazing spirit has a cap of 6

[marble crater]

Yeah surge doesn't work, but blaze is great and the implied bonus to blaze t4 would be a higher cap for stacks as well

4 stacks and cap of 8

[marble crater]

Don't get hit. Unless you have more specifc questions

[molten pond]

How to exploit the magic mumbo jumbo?

[vale violet]

you only explode if you activate an ability while at 97 or above 97

[marble crater]

Try to fight while above 80% peril, or 60% if you want to be safer.

[plucky flax]

Tru no one should ever use blaze trauma such bad staff.

[molten pond]

Once I get the option for new magic attack over Brain Burst, what should I pick?

Saw a chain lightning attack

[marble crater]

You are still leveling? Pick Assail, the right one

[rigid sky]

Assail OP for levelling

All 3 balanced for damnation

But Assail OP below that

[marble crater]

It's stupid strong in low levels, BUT you should also practice melee while you level

[rigid sky]

The chain lightning thing is mostly a cone of crowd control

Without enhanced psionics it doesn't really hurt

You can combo it with the Shriek but only once you reach the enhanced version with soulblaze

[lethal lagoon]

Blaze trauma is literally the worst staff in the game and needs a buff

based and real brother

[marble crater]

Devblog when?

[lethal lagoon]

Blazing spirit buff for Trauma when?

[vernal frost]

blazing spirit and infernus buff on everything when

[upper sun]

when cornered bt 5 crushers and 6 maulers with no ult and at 100 peril+no stamina

feel free to blow up so you dont give the enemy the satisfaction of downing you

[marble crater]

[upper sun]

so close

[marble crater]

[lethal lagoon]

"Guys I swear, I blew up on purpose, I'm good at the game, I promise. I was gonna die anyways. GUYYYYYS."

[upper sun]

yes

[marble crater]

When I did the penance for killing an elite with blowing up I would tell my team at the start, so they wouldn't think I am a noob

[upper sun]

i was doing vent purge

before i realized it there was a ton of armor comping up at me on the vigil station elevator

[lethal lagoon]

And you have the penance now, right?

[upper sun]

prolly should have left the corner but eh

[upper sun]

it has tiers

[marble crater]

I do, I have all class penances done

[lethal lagoon]

[upper sun]

also the damage isnt enough to kill shit outside of sedation

[upper sun]

damn.... 🧎‍♂️

[lethal lagoon]

I didn't know you laid it down like that, damn

[marble crater]

[upper sun]

i stopped doign penances after i got the set

adept assassin is fucking awful

54 is after like 5 games

[marble crater]

P sword, Plasma

[upper sun]

eh if they add more crap to get id rather do ogryn

[marble crater]

It sounds like it shouldn't work, but it's really good for it, someone here gave me the tip, but I forgot who it was sorry

[upper sun]

i think it was the vet guide guy

he told me the same thing

[marble crater]

Is he in the psyker chat?

[upper sun]

he sometimes comes by

[marble crater]

Because I don't leave this chat

[upper sun]

numbers

[restive ice]

cauliflower cat

[marble crater]

It was Sarah199X who told me

[tired estuary]

what did I do

[lethal lagoon]

What didn't you do, smh

[hollow current]

4 real

[lethal lagoon]

199X BC.
The fall of rome? You.
The black plague? You.

[marble crater]

Gave me helpful advice for the weapon specialist penance

[tired estuary]

lmao I don't even remember but cool ig

[lethal lagoon]

Not even denying it.

👀

[marble crater]

Smh my head

[radiant frigate]

shaking my smh

[lethal lagoon]

S my H

[stone totem]

I really like the single target of the deimos but lightning staff is way better at dealing with ranged than purgatus and for charging peril for toughness so considering trying that. Thoughts?

[analog agate]

You can still run deimos for carapace/mutie/boss if set up correctly

Surge is god awful against crushers. Maybe not as bad with cara perk?

[stone totem]

Keeping BR for that. Will be slow to clear hordes but it would be a good problem solver build I think

Though Deimos is okayish enough at armor even without charging up so I could take assail for (slightly better) horde

[abstract forge]

then run trauma instead for horde clear if you have deimos and BB for specials

[stone totem]

Fair nuff, love muh lightning so that was my first thought

[abstract forge]

yeah I had a period where I used a surge build almost exclusively but trauma can be tons of fun in its own way

[buoyant maple]

Have u considered Voidstrike yet or no

[hearty oak]

For psyker, you gotta keep the mindset of one horde clear weapon, one elite killing weapon, and one extra for hordes or elites. Depending on how the other two are performing

[stone totem]

Generally on any class you want at least one thing for everything in the game imo

Especially true on psyker though

[buoyant maple]

Cuz Voidstrike sorta does everything, besides sniping moving enemies at long range

Which u can take BB for

[stone totem]

I've thought about it, it seems fun but never tried

[hearty oak]

I wouldn't even do that. The travel time for the ball to connect with the snipers head is marginal enough, it doesn't really warrant BB with voidstrike.

[buoyant maple]

Moving targets

Sniper doesn’t move that much

[hearty oak]

[languid tusk]

i just slide all over the place and spam trauma staff

im helping

[analog agate]

I am in 2 minds for trauma. They buffed it when void just became ridiculous. One of the buffs was the stagger increase which makes you nearly invulnerable. If they changed it to pre patch 13 a case could be made to take focus channeling again if you wnated to front line

But I also love using it and don't want it nerfed. Ever

[upper sun]

nah focus channeling is awful

also trauma very underpowered buff pls

[lethal lagoon]

Trauma is dumb, it only get's 6 warpfire stacks and just knocks things all over the place.

It's like a weak version of smite

[upper sun]

i lost every trauma game i played today but won every surge one

weak staff unplayable

you have to be top 1% players to even make it past the first event with one

[lethal lagoon]

Trauma is literally just meta sweatlords showing off how skilled they are. It's like playing elden ring at lvl 1.

[hearty oak]

it's the king of knocking fat kids over and then roasting them in melee maelstroms

[lethal lagoon]

Okay we get it, you are good at the game

https://tenor.com/view/netero-hunter-x-hunter-heart-love-anime-gif-16517843

[marble crater]

Please buff Surge

[rigid sky]

Voidstrike is also weirdly bad vs bosses from my experience

Brain rupture can help with that

[karmic finch]

Plague ogryn it's not too bad, it staggers on headshot, and those are easy to get.

Slug, if you can hit the back? Yay, if you can't? Panic.

Chaos spawns? Panic.

The trusty (thrusty?) duelling sword 4 is usually the best option for all three. Though slug takes some positioning.

[rigid sky]

I'm taking Illisi with mine though

And Assail

So I just settle on killing the stuff around the boss

Instead of the boss itself

[karmic finch]

I wish I liked illisi more but ds4 just does way too much work

[rigid sky]

Voidstrike does everything I'd want a DS4 to do

I already blow up Crushers

And mutants

[karmic finch]

Void strike into muties is awkward when you get a lot of them

[rigid sky]

True

[karmic finch]

Like the maelstrom modifier

[rigid sky]

Illisi might one shot them too though but not sure

I know it does with SG DD

Not certain if just DD is enough

[upper sun]

surge nerfs when?

[karmic finch]

Hopefully never

Void strike and surge are balanced well right now

Trauma maybe a tad overturned, purgatus is C tier at best

[hearty oak]

Purge is A-tier tf?

Just needs training and understanding that's it can stagger the hell out of elites

[karmic finch]

Nope

[hearty oak]

Trash enemies? Gone. Elites? Stunlocked and roasting. Orgyns? Roasting their nuts till you swap to BB

[karmic finch]

And needs brain rupture to tackle anything further away.

And needs EP or ability use just to make brain rupture ok.

And while it staggers crushers it kills them very very slowly

[hearty oak]

I'm not home so I can't share the build I use with it. Purge is great for gas maps to stop hyper rushes from enemies

[marble crater]

DS4 the crushers

[karmic finch]

Stagger alone doesn't make something good, that's why smite psykers are so bad (though ep smite is legit now, so eh, it really wasn't before)

[hearty oak]

And it just works with BB so well that getting ep stacks is easy. Also ds4 exists

[rigid sky]

Purgatus isn't bad

It's just worse than our other shit

[karmic finch]

Purgatus is the worst staff by a big margin

[rigid sky]

Worst staff and worse than our good guns

But better than say recon 2 or autopistol at least!

I run it sometimes anyway regardless

Shit's still fun

[karmic finch]

In terms of the situations it can and can't deal with, the specials it can and can't deal with, and the build choices you are effectively locked into giving no flexibility on the tree.

[rigid sky]

Still good enough to take to Auric mael

[karmic finch]

Didn't say it wasnt

[rigid sky]

I know

[karmic finch]

C tier though, and your buddies will have more pressure to handle specials

[hearty oak]

I wouldn't want to use anything else on purge since it can't do high single target damage.

[rigid sky]

I like Deimos on it, and warp siphon

[karmic finch]

Because it's flawed for that...

[rigid sky]

I mean I hate warp Siphon but can't argue with the in fire reborn synergy lol

[hearty oak]

You want a staff that does everything? Voidstrike can do it

[rigid sky]

Purgatus does decent single target on bosses though

[karmic finch]

Don't go saying "well I'd pick that anyway" as a defence of the staff, you're picking that because of a clear flaw of the staff

[rigid sky]

But you gotta swap to something else once you fill up on soulblaze

[karmic finch]

Wow, you're getting it.

That's why purgatus is C tier and void strike is A tier.

[thorn cedar]

the fuck is your grading system

[rigid sky]

Well your other weapons are a part of your full kit

[hearty oak]

I don't get the argument then. Are you for buffing purge or nerfing voidstrike

[karmic finch]

Buff purge

[rigid sky]

It is OK to consider the existence of DS4/Deimos and brain rupture as improving factors for Purgatus

[karmic finch]

It's garbage because it is a ranged weapon that leaves you needing to take other options to deal with ranged enemies. And psyker is shit for that too

[hearty oak]

Cause both are just wrong. They had to take purges ability to stagger crushers and mutants cause it was so strong, it made taking smite pointless

[rigid sky]

Tbh now I feel like EP smite does Purgatus' job too well

[hearty oak]

Yes and no. With wildfire, purge can still keep the bonfire going

[rigid sky]

Not sure it needed that buff at all

Eh, wildfire isn't it for purgatus imo

The exact way it triggers

[hearty oak]

I use it cause the spread is nice

[rigid sky]

I feel like it's better for trauma, perilous and shriek

Intermittent soulblaze sources

Since it has the delay and can't apply stacks over 4

With purgatus by the time the first row of burning mobs dies, the next row has 6 stacks already

[hearty oak]

Hmm. I thought it drop of up to a max of 4 around

[rigid sky]

It's not like it's totally worthless, but lower impact than what it does for other soulblaze sources I think

Hard to test really

[hearty oak]

Wildfire was just that wildcard talent you can pickup

[rigid sky]

But my purgatus build cannot afford it

Since warp siphon

Is hungry a f

Shitty keystone lmao

The Shriek spam is worth it though

Burstgatus

[hearty oak]

Constant burps of flame

But still, I find it very good for what it can offer as a staff. Light everything on fire, get your stacks, unleash your blitz. Occasionally poke the eyeball out of an ogryn with your BBQ fork

[karmic finch]

Trauma is S tier, deals with pretty much anything, poor boss damage is the only real flaw, it's super easy to play. Long range you have the left click which is more than enough for a pasky sniper if you know how to dodge.

Void strike is A tier, relies on accuracy to get the best value, but still pretty easy, handles every thing very well. Long range specials get deleted like everything else, but close range it is much worse than trauma. Well balanced.

Surge has long range with left click when you need it, amazing stagger, amazing damage, but target limited. Shout and a decent melee are perfectly good enough to fill gaps Vs hordes, but it does very well by itself if you learn to dodge with it. Also A tier.

Purgatus is slightly better for close range stagger than trauma, but not to a degree where it really makes much difference. Much better Vs bursters because of the insane push distance. Better Vs monsters because of the stacks then swap to BB. However. No long range option at all, you must rely on BB. BB for the odd sniper is fine unbuffed but if it's your main tool to take out enemies in wide spaces you need to take the cast speed boosts for it, either EP or use your ability and buff it for 10 seconds. Both of those kinda suck. EP feels bad as most of the time you are using the staff it's a dead keystone. And using your ability just to kill ranged units at a decent pace is bad too. (This is partially a critique of BB but purgatus just plays into all the bad things about BB). C tier, viable, but needs so many adjustments that it doesn't deserve higher.

It needs buffs, it needs a left click option that works at range, then make the right click stagger a bit more (like current left click) so you keep the current ability to CC

I don't think it should have the same left click as the others, it's already kinda boring that they are all identical, but it should have something

[restive ice]

the special attack should be throwing it like a boomerang

[karmic finch]

This game is not vermintide, long range (or longish range) is essential, especially in higher difficulties and with special spam (which does not help EP)

[hearty oak]

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[spice veldt]

longer range is essential in the sense that snipers and bombers will fuck you if you can't reach them

however, it is trivial to make a build where you do have a long range option with purg

which involves the impactful decision of just not taking smite

[thorn cedar]

no thats impossible

[spice veldt]

otherwise, the map design of this game is rather claustrophobic and purg's range is fine for it

and when i mean purg's range, i mean its range + your ability to move

[hearty oak]

You can get the maximum out of your bb if you can spam kill elites. I outdps most of the other players in the most of the time in auric maelstroms. Nothing comes quite together like purge/BB/DS4 other than peanut butter and jelly

[spice veldt]

practically all meaningful fights are going to happen up close, and darktide's map design is not open enough for "lack of long range" to be a strong downside

[lethal lagoon]

By that logic LMB staff only is a great build

[karmic finch]

I think there are plenty of tiles where that isn't the case

[lethal lagoon]

[spice veldt]

yeah and BB/assail is enough to handle enemies that are a threat at long range

my point is, the enemies that are a threat at a distance can be sufficiently handled by BB/assail

[hearty oak]

It's stun is pretty neat at stopping a horde of ragers from running you over

[karmic finch]

The fan blade zone? Where you get normal gunner mobs up top?

[spice veldt]

yeah?

[karmic finch]

How's brain burst dealing with them?

You just wait for your team to kill em

[thorn cedar]

you just sprint slide at them and kill them

[spice veldt]

i can't speak for BB

but I run assail and that is far and away sufficient to handle any gunner patrol

[karmic finch]

Assail is fair, but that just doubles down on the issue with crushers, which ds4 is ok for admittedly, but the other staves just chew up

[spice veldt]

and in the fan blade zone, there's a place where you can take cover if need be

mf just run perilous combustion

[thorn cedar]

even easier is you just

fucking wait up there where they all spawn and kill them

[spice veldt]

or make degenerate use of uncanny

[thorn cedar]

instead of letting them park up

[hearty oak]

If gunners are being dicks off in the distance, just vent real quick and pick them off.

[thorn cedar]

you know theyre gonna be there lol

they always show up

[lethal lagoon]

If you're BB don't look like this then it's just BR.

[spice veldt]

i do not see how you would have a problem with gunners in the fan blade zone unless you're just standing out in the open

[lethal lagoon]

[thorn cedar]

so punch their ticket at the gate

[spice veldt]

if you're next to where they spawn, purg will suppress them easily

[thorn cedar]

plus you can lock on BB's and sprint/slide still

[spice veldt]

if you're not close you can easily just run to the battery location located in the shack to take cover

[karmic finch]

Oooh yeah, I love using my capstone and my ability just to make by blitz feel good

[spice veldt]

• being able to regen off of the enemies that spawn

[karmic finch]

BB is just badly balanced, and purge staff makes the worst use of that

[lethal lagoon]

You too?

https://tenor.com/view/netero-hunter-x-hunter-heart-love-anime-gif-16517843

[karmic finch]

Assail purge has clear weaknesses

[eager token]

flayer + EP too stronk

[spice veldt]

BB is good enough for long distances

[karmic finch]

But is better for build flexibility at least

[spice veldt]

the main point is that you do not need that much DPS beyond the distance of purg

and remarking about ranged enemies, they have damage falloff and inaccuracy

[thorn cedar]

which is what

16m

[karmic finch]

Keep telling yourself that, and keep saying it here, and BB won't get the buffs it needs...

[thorn cedar]

14m?

[spice veldt]

and BB is basically THE weapon for corner peeking that we have

[spice veldt]

bruh i do not care about BB

i am an assail main

why do you keep associating BB with me

i can not give more than one fuck about BB

and i hate the ability so much that i want it deleted

because i hate the initial delay it has

i've been stuck with it for 1k hours

[thorn cedar]

it cant even keep up with itself

[spice veldt]

and i continue to despise it

[hearty oak]

I won't lie, BB did get the wrong end of the stick for the class update and wasn't future proofed. But the damage it can still do to heavies is nothing to scoff at when used with vent and EP

[spice veldt]

do not ever associate BB with me

[thorn cedar]

i still like BB, when it pops off its a fun time

[spice veldt]

the fact that i despise BB does not prevent me from seeing the upsides that it does have

and how it can cover the weaknesses of purg trivially

[thorn cedar]

and i enjoy sprint sliding around with a BB locked in

instantly popping whatever

[karmic finch]

But you're saying BB is ok here? I'm getting mixed messages?

[spice veldt]

.

did you not see how i just said that i am able to separate my dislike for BB and my perception of its performance

[hearty oak]

I need free recording software

[spice veldt]

consider reading what i say before going for "gotchas"

[thorn cedar]

OBS

[hollow current]

shadowplay if you have a nvdia card?

[spice veldt]

i personally use OBS

[hearty oak]

I'll look into those

[lethal lagoon]

You don't have to look into the nvdia one, just hit alt z

[karmic finch]

BB is utter garbage that is somewhat propped up by taking the capstone of your build to make it feel ok.

Or alternatively, you can just use your ability, even at a bad time, just to buff it for 10 seconds

It's a U tier ability that scrapes by to E tier if you invest in it

[hollow current]

OBS is probably way better but shadowplay is basically built in and will give you clips without much effort.

[spice veldt]

i think OBS has an option similar to shadowplay where you can save everything up to X minutes before, but that probaby needs some setting up
I just record all the time and delete footage when my drive is nearly full

[thorn cedar]

goink you have a fucked perception of shit tbh

[spice veldt]

i'm all for shitting on BB
but my main point thus far has been, "we don't need that much DPS to handle enemies that are a threat at long range, beyond the distance of purgatus. Thus, BB is sufficient"

and to condense my point even further