psyker-class

[lethal lagoon]

Smart man

[short plaza]

Actually it's because I thought my hp bar was just... Bigger when using bonus wounds. And now I spend plasteel on too many different builds to use it on accessories. But that tends working somehow for now in threshold 4 😂

[bold cape]

can’t imagine psyker without a +3 stam
and like
wounds are like training wheels
you wanna lose them asap cause they do not help you outside of dying which ideally you don’t wanna die

[radiant frigate]

crusher patrol and no ogryn grenades? just pull the pin on the psyker

kaboom

[bold cape]

sacrifice for the greater good
psykers are used to that anyway

[lethal lagoon]

There's no reason not to make it nuke-like honestly.

[short plaza]

I'd take it, I'm usually dying to revive people in situations I should just not try it, so I'd welcome such a change

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah, learning to let people die is an important step in this game.

Took me forever to learn, and bad habits die hard

Just like my teammates

Or rather not like my teammates

[short plaza]

Ikr. I learned this in vermintide but I'm still unfamiliar with some balances in terms of stagger/block stamina for x attack and such so I find myself a bit caught off guard sometimes. Learning curve!

[supple dock]

It's a part of risk assessment

[bold cape]

im not quite at the level of skill to clutch alone but often times my team will throw themselves at the revive and its awful

[lethal lagoon]

Like 99% of team wipes are an Idiot and a Hero

[bold cape]

that’s literally how it goes lmao

[short plaza]

I take the idiot hero role if it's free

[lethal lagoon]

[short plaza]

Is there a totally off meta/forbidden staff for psyker BTW? I've kinda re-discovered the one that casts lightnings, which I considered bad at first and really good now that I pull my weight, or am I delusional

[rigid sky]

Have you considered toughness

[rigid sky]

All staves are good

Finesse focused guns are also good

[lethal lagoon]

All staves are good, purg slightly lags behind.

[rigid sky]

Purgatus is probably the least of the staves by a little bit

it's good at what it does but it has the biggest weaknesses

and what it does is possibly slightly redundant

[bold cape]

all are useful, some are just less versatile

[short plaza]

Myeah but I tend to not lack toughness in situations I can replenish it, and I'm unsure buffing it would help me in situations I can't (like poison smokes or a cheeky flamethrower)

[lethal lagoon]

Purg psykers do by far the worst in my games if I'm running EP smite.

It just invalidates them

[rigid sky]

Yeah you don't need more than 1 cone of horde death weapon

[short plaza]

Purgatus is the flame thrower one?

[rigid sky]

1 purgatus OR flamer OR EP smite in a team

any more is a waste

Purgatus is the flamethrower, yeah

[bold cape]

im afraid to go anywhere near that shit

[short plaza]

I rushed at it being a fan of Sienna flamethrower staff in vermintide and found it a bit... Well, not burning quickly enough. But oh well

[rigid sky]

You need a good one

but getting a good one is easy

cloud radius as high as possible

burn 76+

that's all that really matters

oh and flak perk, nexus blessing

[lethal lagoon]

If you wanna burn just run blaze trauma and shriek

[rigid sky]

ideally flurry second blessing

and second perk is flexible but usually crit chance or unyielding

[bold cape]

ep smite looks funny but it also looks like it’d just melt my critical thinking away
i havent seen it in one of my games yet

[rigid sky]

purgatus with shriek is a good combo too

it feels like it should be redundant

but shriek is effectively burst over time if that makes sense

[lethal lagoon]

EP smite with shriek is insanely rare.

[bold cape]

every smite player ive come across anyway has been mildly worthless

[short plaza]

I think mine has eeeh crit changes depending of peril level and can't remember the second one. At first it was being able to cast while running which I find useless

[rigid sky]

EP smite with shriek is the only way to run smite imo

smite without shriek is awful

[lethal lagoon]

It's the only way, and never the way

[bold cape]

it’s the forbidden meta

[rigid sky]

I mean WS smite with shriek is also ok

[lethal lagoon]

Only time I see shriek and smite together is when they aren't using smite.

[short plaza]

Smite is the psyker power to stun ennemies right? What's shriek?

[rigid sky]

but don't run smite with shield for jimmy's sake

shriek is the knockback ability

[lethal lagoon]

Smite is the psyker power to DPS the entire map.

The vent yell.

[rigid sky]

You MUST take creeping flames with it

[short plaza]

That's my "support psyker" go to 😢

[rigid sky]

Yeah, the idea of being "pure support" is not really great imo

[bold cape]

don’t try to be a support build please

[rigid sky]

It can be good to have support elements

but you need killing power too

[lethal lagoon]

This is a horde game. The answer to the question is always "Kill more".

[rigid sky]

I love shield, I love smite

[bold cape]

there is no support build in darktide
killing enemies is the best support

[rigid sky]

but I would never combine them

[lethal lagoon]

If shield isn't letting you kill more, it's useless.

[rigid sky]

I really like having brain rupture if I have shield tbh

[short plaza]

Haha I had kind of such an insight by playing. I've swapped my psyker toward something more agressive but I can't help it, there will always be some sort of backline support build ready to use somewhere in my pool

[rigid sky]

It's really effective at establishing a bunker to kill the gunners from

but you're using the shield as leverage to kill shit

just like with smite, you're using it as leverage to set up a killer shriek

[short plaza]

Or when your team lack a good Lucky Luke to kill snipers while we're discussing with a mixed horde

[rigid sky]

Smite and shield is just pure delaying

and if you delay, the tide builds up and up

[bold cape]

psyker has insane dmg output so i get a little sad whenever i see someone sit in a shield with smite
i mean, i havent seen it in an auric yet

and smiting inside bubble is counterintuitive

[lethal lagoon]

[bold cape]

it hurts more than anything

[short plaza]

True yeah. I had such a feeling and swapped toward a psyker with the lightning staff + the guided thorns to throw for long range, which I find some sort of versatile build

[lethal lagoon]

Just to be clear, they were alive the whole time.

I just felt bad for the guy. Not even being mean.

Psyker has so much more to it.

[short plaza]

Really need to get those mods to have the boards and such, could help me figuring out things

[bold cape]

definitely

[lethal lagoon]

ovenproof for scoreboard is what you wanna get, the other one has accuracy problems.

[rigid sky]

I like smite with the lightning staff tbh

[lethal lagoon]

I mean overproof isn't perfect either, but it's not like majorly off.

[bold cape]

it would probably make more smite players not spam it lmao

[rigid sky]

I think the most brainrot build is EP smite shriek surge

Shittons of damage and hilariously safe

[lethal lagoon]

I'm guessing you saw my clip for why EP smite doesn't need KD

There is no brain left in this head

[rigid sky]

I haven't but I can believe it

[bold cape]

yeah that was just dumb lmao

[rigid sky]

I have to skip KD on my purgatus build

which is like half of why I hate my purgatus lol

[short plaza]

Sorry what's ep?

[rigid sky]

More accurately I hate warp siphon I guess

[lethal lagoon]

Empowered Psconics, middle bottom

[bold cape]

no weapon build required, just hold button, mmm press button, whoops! everything is dead

[rigid sky]

Enhanced Psionics, middle keystone

[short plaza]

Alright thx

[rigid sky]

It's really good

[rigid sky]

It turns your blitz into a primary weapon basically

[lethal lagoon]

[rigid sky]

Brain Rupture becomes basically a single target plasma gun

Smite becomes Purgatus but with a limited target cap

Assail, uh

I kinda hate EP assail

[lethal lagoon]

Assail is kinda like Surge actually

[rigid sky]

DD assail is basically the same thing without the 0 peril cost

[lethal lagoon]

Really good at killing ranged mobs and elites

[rigid sky]

but also boosts your other shit

if I run Assail, I run it with voidstrike or guns and DD

[bold cape]

i havent tried ep at all yet

[rigid sky]

just feels more universal

[rigid sky]

I can send you my EP trauma build if you like, super versatile and great carry potential

[bold cape]

i might use ep smite later…just cause ive only been playing gunker as of late

[lethal lagoon]

Alternatively, I can give you brain trauma with an ep smite build

[bold cape]

sure this sounds good

[bold cape]

you’ve sent me one

ive still yet to touch it

[lethal lagoon]

I figured, I just wanted to make a brain trauma joke

[short plaza]

That's what I run lately 😂 With the lightning staff it really gives any range of good killing power I feel

[lethal lagoon]

[rigid sky]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9c3696a4-b61d-4b89-8e4c-4f6fc8a2d951

Melee weapon can also be Duelling Sword 4

second blessing on melee weapon, and the perks, are flexible

You can take crit aura if you prefer

or elite aura even

kinda doesn't matter

There's a lot of luxury points in there too since EP builds are super cheap

[short plaza]

You forgot to add wounds to the trinkets in the build

[rigid sky]

NO.

:)

[short plaza]

[bold cape]

ive been wanting to try force swords but i got really lucky with ds and massively unlucky with everything else

[rigid sky]

Warp expenditure is a luxury node, empathic evasion too, and wildfire

and psychic leeching

Duelling sword 4 works just as well for this

I just take deimos for some reason, not sure why lmao

my own deimos is deflector but isn't so important

You can also take double wall instead of bubble if you prefer

better synergy with EP but I'm a toughness regen stan

you can choose to take true aim or puppet master instead of some of those luxury nodes

[bold cape]

so ep with bb is just kinda like a death sentence for one target im assuming

[rigid sky]

It kills ragers too with that, and I think double taps crushers

it's mostly about the faster cast time

[lethal lagoon]

I will never run EP BB without double shields.
#psyker-class message

[rigid sky]

and every time you kill an elite with it, you get another charge

I took the bubble in reaction to certain events like the chasm station mid event

or the giant rooms in ascension riser 31

and it acts as a bit of melee protection with the regenerating toughness part

but walls make your brain rupture stronger

[bold cape]

thanks, now i have quite a few psyker builds to try
just gotta get good staffs..and not get sprint hipfire 4 times in a row :)

[lethal lagoon]

Run an LMB-only build

[bold cape]

i made the mistake of rolling dclaws so now im broke

[radiant frigate]

why dclaw

[short plaza]

It's what I recall from my last enjoyed build, does it seem coherent to experienced psyker players here? https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9c369912-86b5-4797-9f84-bec1a285e04d/actual?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button I tend performing well in difficulty 4 (which means I rarely encounter situations I feel useless or blocked but I've a big learning curve to climb still)

[lethal lagoon]

I don't think I've ever used dclaw on psyker

[bold cape]

on zealot

[radiant frigate]

kinda trash weapon innit

even worse

[potent echo]

It's decent horde clear I guess

Parry spam if you're in bad

Then add a voidstrike to actually carry your build

[short plaza]

I felt like the surge staff kills elite better than voidstrike though?

[potent echo]

Nuh uh

[bold cape]

@autumn smelt this guy convinced me to

[rigid sky]

Surge kills weaker stuff a bit faster I think

and it's less focus to use it

Voidstrike is a touch slower to fire but it has much better kill power

You can oneshot crushers with it

[short plaza]

It stacks faster at least which I found convenient against elites in horde

[rigid sky]

and mutants

[lethal lagoon]

Boy do I have a sales pitch for you

[short plaza]

Reaaaally? Ok I'm sold

[bold cape]

oh no

[lethal lagoon]

Keep in mind you have to roll t4 blessing surge to oneshot a crusher

[rigid sky]

It needs a nexus/surge/carapace one with disrupt destiny

[radiant frigate]

unfathomable level of cope

[short plaza]

Ah OK I play with empowered psionic most of the time

[rigid sky]

but the amount of power you feel when you just cast Crusherus Fuckoffico on it

I change my keystone based on my weapon

My voidstrike and guns are hardlocked to DD

[radiant frigate]

i am hardlocked to dd

[rigid sky]

the extra power they gain from it is nuts, since they benefit from the weakspot and the crit components

[radiant frigate]

the others aren't exactly melee friendly

[rigid sky]

and they have an easier time killing blue bois

[lethal lagoon]

#1158835513789272126 message
Trust me

[rigid sky]

and yeah, it boosts your melee by a ton too

[lethal lagoon]

[rigid sky]

Ok, a few notes

[bold cape]

wtf is this

[rigid sky]

if you take shriek, take creeping flames

it's the entire point of shriek

[lethal lagoon]

It's your journey to the emperor

[rigid sky]

if you use shriek with 84+ peril, you can kill anything that's not a kill feed target

[short plaza]

Oh. My point of shriek was to spam another few rounds of my surge staff

[lethal lagoon]

Creeping flames will kill all mobs, bruisers, ranged mobs, and snipers in this cone.

[short plaza]

I usually use it at 100 lol

[rigid sky]

Sneeze of death

[bold cape]

gwround

[rigid sky]

I would definitely take overpowering souls over bio-lodestone

especially since you run surge

You'll gain more EP charges that way, a lot more

[lethal lagoon]

I don't think I was all there by the time we got to the final image.

[rigid sky]

I probably wouldn't take malefic momentum in this build since you are using primarily warp attacks

[lethal lagoon]

I have like dozens of these

[rigid sky]

and I would drop battle meditation if you aren't running EP smite or scrier's gaze (which you aren't)

[short plaza]

Makes sense yes

[lethal lagoon]

You want perilous combustion too

[rigid sky]

and take perilous combustion (it's kinda marginal but sometimes you will tag 2 shotgunners in a group and then all the others will die)

[lethal lagoon]

Get rid of warp expen for perilous combustion or something

[rigid sky]

You could consider swapping from assail to smite, but that's up to you

Warp expenditure is marginal but it's less bad than the other choices I highlighted imo

EP builds can often afford to take it

swiss cheese damage avoidance model

[short plaza]

My point for it is I tend to discuss with the cheap mobs with my sword and swap to the staff to kill the armored or berserkers ennemies mixed in there (which I often and quickly do) but perhaps it's not as useful as I think it is

[rigid sky]

any toughness gain can be enough for you to resist the bruiser love tap of death

You're running an Illisi which will be empowered a lot of the time

[short plaza]

Assai helps me killing long range ennemies which I can't with my staff (or painfully slowly with the basic attack)

[rigid sky]

Empowered swings don't trigger malefic momentum

Yeah, the range thing would be an issue if you take smite

LMB is pretty good on a surge staff

it's the best staff for LMB actually

[short plaza]

Damn! They do trigger the braincrush thing on warp powers so I thought they would also benefit of other warp buffs

[rigid sky]

you can kill a lot of things with it, especially dangerous ranged targets like gunners and snipers that don't move

[autumn smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/gotg-what-chris-pratt-starlord-guardians-of-the-galaxy-gif-11287925

[rigid sky]

Empowered swings will BENEFIT, yes

but they can't TRIGGER it

since an empowered swing is a warp attack

and MM needs non-warp attacks to trigger it

I only take MM on my gunker tbh

[short plaza]

Ooh yes right I thought malefic momentum was the dodge buff for 1 second after warp kill

[rigid sky]

I like empathic evasion tbh

a lot of people don't but I do

More swiss cheese damage avoidance stuff

[short plaza]

Alright thx for the guidance I've there a few tweaks to consider for my next gaming session

[rigid sky]

But yeah, the biggest mistake you made with it is taking shriek without taking creeping flames

Creeping flames is a fucking revelation from The Emperor himself

Press F To Kill Everybody

[short plaza]

Is there anyway to know exactly the soulblaze damages? It seemed low in the simulation area but I guess I was mistaken

[rigid sky]

It gives 1 stack per 1/6 of your peril bar

[autumn smelt]

there should be a soulblaze table somewhere

[rigid sky]

so if you activate it at 84% or up, you get 6 stacks

that is enough to kill all trash

[short plaza]

Is it mandatory to run it with wildfire?

[rigid sky]

No.

It has good synergy with wildfire, but wildfire is marginal even at best

[short plaza]

Good because my talents path really doesn't go this way 😂

[autumn smelt]

and when its paired with perilous combustion after killing an elite, you really can start get stuff to melt

[rigid sky]

I only run it on my blaze trauma

Yeah, PC can push it up to 9 immediately too

that's enough to kill squishier elites I think

[autumn smelt]

since each additional stack of soublaze is somewhat exponential in how much damage per tick it does

[rigid sky]

It starts to become more linear iirc

[autumn smelt]

so youre doing WAYYY more damage with it like that

[rigid sky]

it's like the first few stacks have increasing returns

but after like 6 it's linear, and it even starts to taper off if you hit the extremes

but it's enough to push you over a lot of thresholds :)

I think it's quadratic for a segment, then linear, and then inverted quadratic or something

[short plaza]

I used to play with breakpoints in vermintide but in darktide I really lack the knowledge on such things so the tips are appreciated

[rigid sky]

or upside down exponential decay or some other complicated bollocks like that

doesn't matter because you don't reach that part of the graph anyway

[short plaza]

(plus even if I play nearly all classes besides ogryn perhaps psyker will become my first go to so any tip on them especially is nice)

[rigid sky]

Once psyker properly clicks I'm pretty sure it's the most powerful class

very fragile if you let something through though

All of our defensive strength comes from not being hit while below 100% toughness

but our active defense is unparalleled

[short plaza]

Veteran seems super strong to me (I play energetic sword / chainsaw idk which is best and revolver and I feel never powerless whatever the situation is 😂) but the psyker is just so cool fighting constantly with the peril threshold

At least the venting action is really quick which is quite nice to spam those surges

[rigid sky]

Once you take creeping flames you will start to use high peril as a resource too

[short plaza]

I do already. For better voicelines.

Buuut additional damages is cool to take too

[rigid sky]

And then you take a different build, say shield Blaze Trauma, which also needs you to maintain high peril but doesn't have the emergency vent button :)

And then you will blow up a lot

[viscid matrix]

venting is a bad thing
you want to live above 80% threshold all the time
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046914150363844779/1186618737378463804/Edging_Practice.mp4?ex=666191d1&is=66604051&hm=973c11aef71b5fd11e3199d8f1dad72c66ee22843932dee8afd02ec7c577f8f5&

[short plaza]

I enjoyed the high heat builds with Sienna (sorry for the often references to another game but it's just what I can relate to) so I'm looking forward

[autumn smelt]

Psykers when they're jorkin they perils

[bold cape]

@lethal lagoon what scoreboard did you recommend again?

[lethal lagoon]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/241

[wind spruce]

Ovenproof's extension is the one without the damage calc error

[bold cape]

alr sweet thanks

[viscid matrix]

wait so its actually accurate instead of always showing you are the best every time?

[rigid sky]

I'll take the "I'm always the best " one pls

[wind spruce]

Mine still tells me I'm the best everytime so idk

[short plaza]

Especially when the group is wiped

[viscid matrix]

the problem was 90% of the time it would show you are the best, even when the rest of the squad are doing their job properly

[lethal lagoon]

Remember when people used to post fake items here all the time.

Crafting update really changed that.

[short plaza]

Is a smite/shriek/blazing soul build doable or it's a bit meme ?

[viscid matrix]

doable

[lethal lagoon]

Blazing soul on sword?

Meme

Blazing Soul on Trauma

Yes

[wind spruce]

Blazing spirit on trauma is THE build

[short plaza]

Doesn't the trauma staff struggle to kill elites? Isn't it for like, staggering them?

[viscid matrix]

https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1158835513789272126

[wind spruce]

No

[bold cape]

all the traumas ive seen are crazy

[radiant frigate]

blazing surge voidstrike

[rigid sky]

You can take a deimos or DS4 for Crushers etc

Trauma doesn't kill elites fast but it kills them efficiently

[lethal lagoon]

[rigid sky]

Since it's also doing CC and AoE damage

[short plaza]

I've experienced the "fast" aspect of it is important 😂

[viscid matrix]

😄 they are meh, but there are builds there

[rigid sky]

I run brain rupture with mine instead of smite

[lethal lagoon]

The build is not there

[rigid sky]

Since imo Trauma and Smite do a similar job

[lethal lagoon]

Like if there was canada, that build is in el salvador

[viscid matrix]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959
check out this, has a lot of useful info

[rigid sky]

The atheneum is a great starting point

And a helpful way to target weapon builds more effectively so you don't accidentally brick a potential emperor-tier weapon

[short plaza]

My hidden curse

[lethal lagoon]

Average blaze trauma game

Also average smitker game.

[bold cape]

im so afraid of making a change ill regret im afraid ill never change anything on my ds4 lmao

[lethal lagoon]

Also blaze trauma is one of those that is innacurate on the old scoreboard, as you can see.

It sometimes counts overkills as damage

[bold cape]

“OnlySmites”

[lethal lagoon]

I was level 6

And true to my name

[short plaza]

Damn this already is very insightful "As an example, if your attack normally deals 100 damage and 150 damage on a weakspot hit, +10% weakspot damage will make this 100 + 501.1 = 155 damage instead of what you would expect (1501.1 = 165)." on the guide u've shared

[rigid sky]

Oh yeah, that's a huge thing

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah that's a fun discovery, FatMath

[short plaza]

I like crafting very optimized things for the builds I like (not the other way around) so it's cool to have such ressources at hand

[rigid sky]

A lot of people don't know about that

[viscid matrix]

Pygex worked with a bunch of people in here to get all of it accurate

[rigid sky]

About the only point I disagree on is that he calls damage a dump stat on Blaze trauma

And he suggests that blazing illisi is not a meme

[lethal lagoon]

Me who ran a "great" surge staff with 10% crit damage for the longest time

[rigid sky]

I would call damage a tertiary stat, you want it high but can compromise, similar to quell speed. Warp Resistance is always the dump stat.

[lethal lagoon]

Except for voidstrike, then it's blast radius

[short plaza]

I always assume crit is super valuable (since well... In vermintide it's like pure gold to strike a critical hit...) but this short intro has proved me wrong 😂

I see some blessings seem incorrectly described in-game + mine isn't even in English so imagine the incorrect informations...

[viscid matrix]

like putting wrong info into tooltips

[lethal lagoon]

Surge staff is a good example of a tooltip that has been wrong since the game came out.

[rigid sky]

Crit chance is often valuable

[lethal lagoon]

According to the crit bonus description, it only gives crit chance to primary attacks

[rigid sky]

Crit damage on perks usually not.

Crit damage on talents can be good though

But always less good than it sounds

(But talents tend to give you a much greater amount of it)

[short plaza]

This guide is a gold mine

[bold cape]

@lethal lagoon what staff do you like to take for ep smite? or do you even use it lmao

[lethal lagoon]

I have a special surge staff with carpace and unyielding for EP smite

It's deifnitely not because I lost my mind getting carpace every single time I upgraded a staff. But because it's optimal for Ep smite

🙂

[bold cape]

i do have a carapace surge

[lethal lagoon]

Surge is there to cover bosses, ogs, crushers and to grab you EP stacks.

[bold cape]

i just need to find a good 2nd blessing alongside warp nexus

[short plaza]

I had no clue of the different charge time and cost for different buttons for brain burst (usually being focused on something else than my peril bar at that moment to notice)

[lethal lagoon]

Also to deal with lone brusiers and ranged mobs

Warp flurry is the only option, yeah.

[short plaza]

I feel it's good to eliminate anyway elites mixed in a horde though

[lethal lagoon]

Sure? This is for EP smite though

[short plaza]

They're easy to aim at and quickly killed with it

Ooh I meant with the surge staff

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah, just to be clear, everything I said applies to using Surge Staff when you are running an EP smite build

Surge staff usuage on a normal surge build is gonna be different of course.

[short plaza]

Perhaps I emphasize too much the threat of elites mixed with horde because my usual groups struggle a bit killing them (#ImTooGoodForThem) but I should give the voidstrike another round despite the longer cast time

[lethal lagoon]

That's a normal use of Surge.

Half the point of surge though is to pair with shriek/creeping flames.

Where as Voidstrike is largely standalone and you can pair it with whatever.

Peril gen is one of the benefits of surge, rather than a negative. Both for shriek spamming(with warp charges) and toughness gen.

You can just straight up run towards gunner groups on surge because of that.

[short plaza]

"Soulblaze damage ticks take the damage modifiers (perks and blessings) from the currently active weapon and buffs, not from the buffs at the time of application." now that will become complex...

[bold cape]

@lethal lagoon what’s your scoreboard settings? j curious

[lethal lagoon]

Uhhh, I have damage types, damage by enemy types, and I've been meaning to add lesser ranged mob or whatever it's called.

I need to redit my options, I have both scoreboards running cause I was comparing them for a while.

[rigid sky]

The upshot is that you can use uncanny and power boosts

[bold cape]

wait should i disable everything on the normal sb after installing the ovenproof plugin?

[rigid sky]

Soulblaze has terrible Carapace modifiers (and kinda bad flak)

Uncanny eliminates that issue

[lethal lagoon]

You can, they mesh together just fine. It can get very long though.

[bold cape]

i wish i could pull it up in the psyk

[mental rock]

Powerdi is better scoreboard made by ovenproof

No plugins required

[short plaza]

Reading this guide makes me feeling I've underestimating disrupt destiny

[bold cape]

DD is wack

[rigid sky]

DD is crazy but it needs a finesse weapon

so for 3/4 staves it's not great

[bold cape]

visions of columnus

[rigid sky]

but for stuff like voidstrike, and for all of the guns that we actually want to use, it's the best by far

So for guns that's stuff like columnus infantry autogun, accatran laspistol, arguably zarona revolver

possibly headhunter autoguns

anything with a sick crit/ws modifier

[lethal lagoon]

Best part of DD for voidstrike is you get a metric fuck ton of extra points

[rigid sky]

Best part of DD for voidstrike is the rush from oneshotting crushers lol

[lethal lagoon]

Cause voidstrike is low peril, so you can just dump the whole left lower tree

[bold cape]

i just got powerdi and it seems the best by far but it’s also not great to peek at in game
which is a small nitpick i suppose

[short plaza]

I love the zarona one with veteran, but even without the weakspot the sheer (potential) +30% damages increase sounds crazy

Brain burst also always counts as weakspot so hmmmm

[rigid sky]

Brain burst has zero crit and weakspot modifiers though

so it won't benefit from that part

assail does though :)

btw 30% was the old version of Perfectionism

but I wouldn't recommend perfectionism anyway

now it only stacks to 25 but it also is really hard to maintain

[bold cape]

4s is rough

[rigid sky]

if you take lingering influence instead, you basically just have 15 stacks 99% of the time

[bold cape]

with the 15 you’re basically entering every fight with max stacks

[short plaza]

Ah yes true forgot it's 4s only for the base formula

[rigid sky]

which means 15% damage, 30% crit damage and 37.5% (I think?) weakspot damage

[short plaza]

"Due to the increased AOE pressure, one could think Bomber & Flamer resistance could be of any worth. Unfortunately they apply to the melee attacks only and not the flames and fumes!!!" ..... This is scandalous

[pine shore]

What?

[short plaza]

I locked some Flamer resistance on my trinkets. 😢

[pine shore]

Bomber and flamer resistance on curios does nothing?

[short plaza]

But that won't work on their... Flames attack.

(but since I have wound trinkets to swap anyway... 😂)

[short plaza]

According to the guide, yes

[light lintel]

Flamers kick surprisingly hard...

[short plaza]

I got cornered by one and repeatedly kicked at short distance, I felt a bit assaulted yes

[jovial juniper]

I would, it's a huge boost with a short time, it's not as consistent as Lingering, but it shines during Auspex parts because you get swarmed by bruisers, shooters and stalkers

With that being said

Use Lingerie Presence

[rigid sky]

It immediately evaporates the moment a boss shows up though

although tbf voidstrike doesn't do shit to bosses anyway

[short plaza]

I'm sure most psykers will have a lot of presence with some appropriate lingerie

[rigid sky]

I feel like you get all the good breakpoints with lingering anyway with voidstrike, and with guns you'd rather not have your stacks fall off on the boss

[jovial juniper]

Also what the heck is lingerie presence, auto correct strikes again

[tender yew]

Psyker is my last class to level, and while I got to level 11 damage has been… hit and miss. I’m assuming my super low weapons are partly to blame, however my current talents could also be complete trash. I’m running assail (being careful not to be a nonce and pull adds/bosses needlessly), and while it does help I don’t want to limit myself to just the ability. I’m using the shield wall but being low level it’s extremely lackluster. Probably a case of low level syndrome but even with the other three classes i at least felt I was contributing. Any tips?

[median sorrel]

basically when levelling psyker you pretty much want to rely on assail to be your main dmg source imo since it's the best you can get until level 30

it makes the game easy until you hit heresy and above so i understand not wanting to rely on it completely

a brain burst build can actually be fun to level because you slowly see an increase in your effectiveness

and that blitz is actually viable all the way up to max difficulty

[short plaza]

While leveling I was having fun with brain burst having a chance to trigger on warp attacks + purgatus staff (but I'm a flame everywhere on the screen enjoyer)

[median sorrel]

screw it i'm making a brain burst psyker again

[tender yew]

Hm I gotcha. Let’s just say even when playing on malice, watching as my dueling sword takes swings to take down pox walkers it’s uh… discouraging

[short plaza]

I will admit 2 things :

• it looks impressive
• I will NEVER use a firearm on a damn futurist psionic sorcerer 😂

[bold cape]

gunker my beloved

[rigid sky]

Assail is viable on max too btw

Duelling sword is mostly a single target focus weapon

the 4 is the good one

it can horde clear but usually needs help from SG and/or DD

And assail

[bold cape]

ranged isn’t my favorite anyway so i use melee 95% of the time on gunker
but the gun comes out when something needs to meet god

[tender yew]

Duly noted. Thanks for the advice

[bold cape]

ds4 clear ain’t bad with dd and scriers

actually pretty serviceable

[rigid sky]

Yeah, and with Assail support too

You'll get the "bloody ell, the psyker's gone nuts" callouts a lot lol

[bold cape]

i prefer something else so i can take aura and have scriers at pretty much 100% uptime

[bold cape]

that plus the male loners voice in the gas mask with the scriers lines and shit
you are literally an insane, genocidal maniac

and i wouldn’t have it any other way

[rigid sky]

YOU'RE ALL GOING TO DIE! Isn't that nice :)

[lethal lagoon]

So after turning on ranged mobs kills, my conclusion that I killed most of them was unfortunately true.

They hurt you know.

[bold cape]

@lethal lagoon so assuming i throw warp nexus onto this, what do i replace stam with?
gonna be using this on the funny ep smite

[lethal lagoon]

I like carpace unyielding for EP smite, plus you can always change it to flak whenever you want.

[bold cape]

sweet
im ready to lose brain cells

[lethal lagoon]

If you wanna add the tiniest modicum of skill to the build, don't forget to quell with your staff and never with the smite ability.

[bold cape]

this is obviously the intended use of the staff

[shut flax]

about to waste plasteel on this bad boy. what perks/blessings should I look for?

[bold cape]

warp nexus and flurry definitely

[lethal lagoon]

Warp Nexus, Warp Flurry, And Flak damage are basically "required" for a decent Surge staff.

The second perk can be maniacs, 5% crit chance, unyielding, elite damage. Carpace is kinda okay.

[shut flax]

great. thanks for your insights. hopefully i get said blessings

[bold cape]

inb4 run and gun/terrifying barrage

[lethal lagoon]

Nah it's his first surge staff, he'll get lucky.

[marble crater]

In 20 days we all have god rolls for every weapon

[lethal lagoon]

In 20 days a new currency is added and all it does is let you add 5% to a random stat.

🤡

I have literally 0 expectations. I just hope the drop is big enough to inject life into the playerbase again

[marble crater]

Then I will do that until all my weapons are 80% everywhere

[lethal lagoon]

Sorry it's limited to 375

[marble crater]

[clear bridge]

...the player base seems pretty lively

[lethal lagoon]

More than usual during a downturn because of xbox/gamepass

[clear bridge]

It's not crazy, admittedly, but the penances update was amazing

[bold cape]

if they fuck up the crafting update i dunno how much longer im gonna play

rng aint my style

[lethal lagoon]

[marble crater]

Penance update was nice, but I can do without all the people quitting in auric

[lethal lagoon]

Not only does that ruin the auric, it makes the penance worthless

Most players I run into with ASS equiped tend to be ASS.

[bold cape]

auric exemplar sounds way cooler anyway

[lethal lagoon]

It does, but it's even more problematic cause quit outs still work.

[clear bridge]

I love Auric Exemplar

[bold cape]

plus its purple

i love purple

[clear bridge]

...People quitting on aurics isn't that bad

[bold cape]

quitting should count as a death

[lethal lagoon]

It kinda breaks the pacing of the game.

[bold cape]

and reset the penance

[clear bridge]

100%, but the issue is- people also crash constantly

[lethal lagoon]

[clear bridge]

It's normal for me to crash 1-3 times per game

[bold cape]

thats true too

[lethal lagoon]

Part of the challenge

[bold cape]

the challenge: get the game to function normally lmao

[lethal lagoon]

At least they can make if you quit out while downed it counts as a death

[clear bridge]

So the game would have to be able to distinguish between a real crash and an alt f4

[lethal lagoon]

Or disabled

[marble crater]

I had missions I started and finished with 3 different people, because the others left

[bold cape]

actually yea thatd work
quit while downed

[lethal lagoon]

Or disabled

[bold cape]

and that

[clear bridge]

I've had whole teams do this- idk, I don't like it as a concept so much

[lethal lagoon]

rotating door of players in a mission is

Plus if they alt f4 instead of manually leaving, it saves their spot for like 5 minutes

[clear bridge]

But then, I was kinda driven to it as well because the penance is weird and particular

[marble crater]

Hell, I had a mission I joined in progress and then 3 new people joined, so no one from the original team was there anymore

[clear bridge]

You pick up the dead man's rifle

[marble crater]

[clear bridge]

To clarify - I ended up trying to use the bug after I didn't get Auric Storm Survivor after my 5th mission - because if you join after the 1st drop it doesn't work

This fact is unclarified, so to my knowledge the game had just stolen my win from me

But my streak ended up breaking anyways, in an act of... karma?

BUT

...yeah it's annoying and I wish it weren't happening

I think it was actually my 6th mission, and I had joined another midway through, but just didn't trust myself on the numbers

[marble crater]

Yeah that's fair, you can't even be too mad at people with the state the servers are in. Sometimes I get a lag spike and the frames don't change at all, then it takes 30 seconds where I can move but the enemies are nowhere where it shows, as I play catch up to the frames I lost, and then I can play normally again or I crash

[clear bridge]

My game does this a loooot

Something similar, anyways

Do you get lads sliding through walls?

[marble crater]

Sometimes, in that situation I pretty much hold block and spam dodge while moving around

[clear bridge]

I keep attacking

Sometimes it works!

...your idea is probably better

[marble crater]

I would attack if I knew that's where the enemies are

When I can move again I'm usually stuck facing a wall, so I wasn't even where I thought I was

[clear bridge]

Ech. Nasty.

...Oh yeah I want to say one last thing about the Auric Storm Survivor title a lot of people don't seem to know

If you're the last one down, your streak doesn't break

Not sure if its intentional

But you have to actually die onscreen for your streak to end

[marble crater]

Because it's game over before you fully die?

[clear bridge]

Exactly

...in my original two ASS runs that I ended up losing, I was saved once each by that mechanic

HONESTLY I like that

[marble crater]

Lucky

[clear bridge]

Since if you're the last one down it typically means you were doing the best

[marble crater]

Maybe that also works if everyone gets downed at the same time?

[clear bridge]

...well, my last run I didn't use that mechanic

[clear bridge]

Definitely - it's just if it's game over before you actually die

[clear bridge]

(I did however leave a game I had just joined, while alive. Pulled those poor bastards out of the fire, but they DEFINITELY weren't making it overall)

[clear bridge]

Is there anything that tends to make this better?

Like, is it a server connection issue or some other kind of glitch?

[hushed egret]

380 trauma staff, but it dumps warp resistance

might be the best dump in some cases but man

hell it's actually 381; 4 80's and a 61

I know it's a float but I think it rounds to whatever integer for stats

[clear bridge]

Daaamn

381...

That sucks on the resistance, but I bet a Shriek/Warp Charge build would be good for kr

[marble crater]

Server I guess, I already don't use quick start and restart the game if I have the slightest stutter

[marble crater]

Warp resistance as dump sounds great though

[hushed egret]

maybe for a build that does a lot of manual quelling

so like my blaze trauma builds

[marble crater]

If you don't want it then I will take it

[hushed egret]

in all truth, trauma loves every stat and wants all of them maxed. it feels so much more ass when it isnt a high level compared to anything else doing the same

[ornate hamlet]

finally have all the empowered psyonics talents i can actually enjoy psyker now

[marble crater]

I don't think warp resistance matters too much for the secondary attacks, will 80 compared to 60 even give you an extra full charge?

[hushed egret]

I dont start from zero so I kinda make my own breakpoints like that

warp resistance is definitely the stat with the least improvement as it increases of the 5 stats, but trauma is also stupid peril hungry

[marble crater]

Yes that's another point, it would only even matter when starting from 0, which doesn't happen that often during a mission. As long as you can cast fully after a quell then it matters even less

[hushed egret]

the only major breakpoint I think would be from 50% or just under

because shout

you're probably right though

I'll give it a try with quell speed, see how it feels

it's better than what I had regardless

think I settled for a sub 370 last time cause I dumped half a million dockets

sub 370 aint too noticeable for most weapons, especially if it dumps into the all too common mobility stat, but you can feel it with trauma

[static needle]

Lmao

[marble crater]

Good luck, may Hadron have mercy on you

[hushed egret]

already landed it

[marble crater]

Ah nice

[hushed egret]

one of my perks is infested enemies, but otherwise perfect

rending shockwave 4, warp flurry 3 that I can upgrade when I get 4, and flak

[marble crater]

Almost perfect randing trauma then

[ornate hamlet]

what would be the best psyker melees for horde clear

[rigid sky]

Illisi hands down

If you have DD and SG boosting you, other weapons can horde clear very well too with greater flexibility

[short plaza]

Yeah I handle hordes in heresy very easily with the illisi sword, heavy into light and repeat with a few dodges (and charging the power when you have the space to do so)

[rigid sky]

But with no investment, the Illisi is crazy for horde clear

[short plaza]

Be aware the push attack will make you explode if you're at 100 peril, it adds 4% I think

[rigid sky]

You would probably like one with bloodthirsty

If you are naturally doing 2 hit combos

[short plaza]

What does bloodthirsty do?

[rigid sky]

After killing with a special attack, your next attack is 100% a crit

[short plaza]

Oh yeah I translate my vermintide "melee combinations" pretty naturally into darktide

Oooh with the illisi it would be great indeed

[rigid sky]

It's basically power cycler 3

People here hate it though lol

But I really like the Mettle synergy

[short plaza]

Charge the heavy, would improve the light hit into a critical strike... That would definitely be nice, but i don't know all the traits so perhaps there's better

I like the deflector though I think I'd like keeping it

When there's this shotgunner I didn't notice and I hear "krik krik"... 😂

[rigid sky]

I feel like Illisi gets better use from double aggro blessings

Love deflector on my Deimos though

It's a crutch but it also feels really cool

Fucking Neo powers

[short plaza]

Is there a sword with infinite dodges count? I didn't check which weapons have how many

[rigid sky]

Force swords used to have it

They still have lots of dodges but no longer endless

[short plaza]

But I tend to like being slippy in melee so I can easily evade, swap to range to kill a priority target and back to debating with the mob

[thorn cedar]

thankfully no longer

[rigid sky]

If you want something very dodgy, try a DS4

[short plaza]

Ds4?

[rigid sky]

Or a combat blade 6 maybe

Duelling Sword 4 sorry

Lights for clear, headpokes with heavy for single targets

Huge-ass dodges

I only take it on my gunker

[short plaza]

Hm but it can't have deflector can it? I assume it's only with the swords with the psionic charge

[rigid sky]

But it is very good

Nope, no deflector

[ornate hamlet]

what is dd and sg :0

[short plaza]

I'll certainly give it a try but I like being survivable and deflector really caught me I must say

[rigid sky]

Right keystone and ability, respectively

[bold cape]

disrupt destiny and scriers gaze
the gunker's holy duo

[rigid sky]

Always good to have more options

[supple dock]

deflector has always been "meh" for me, but it can put you out of really shitty positions if you build and use it correctly

[bold cape]

tho id use ds4 over illisi if you use scriers

horde clear is worse but you also dont have anti-synergy with the peril generation

[eager token]

deflector + kinetic deflection is pretty good but you dont need it

it’s nice if you’re lazy

[short plaza]

Yeah... In fact I don't rely A LOT on it but in some particular situations it's the thing that made the difference between life and death. And since the weapon basically does its job I find it a very cool tool to have at hand (despite the shield thing kinda blinds me lol!)

[bold cape]

think theres a mod to get rid of the screen clutter with the force block

[short plaza]

Oh I yet have to figure the mods out (I didn't even know they were allowed before today) but that could be useful

[bold cape]

oh yeah for sure
its super easy and they can give you SO much needed utility/qol

[rigid sky]

Also it turns Crushers and maulers from a roadblock to more food

[bold cape]

2 shotting carapace mobs is a drug

[short plaza]

Certainly, i need the scoreboard (to better figure out what I did) and I'm interested in the health bars too, could help me knowing how much I have to commit to kill elites or if I'm nearly reaching a breakpoint or things like that

[rigid sky]

I love when I have a weapon where it's still correct to hit maulers in the head

[bold cape]

healthbars, scoreboard, custom hud, are the ones everyone should have i think

i have something like 40 installed

[quartz barn]

healthbars isnt needed tbh

depends on pref

[bold cape]

theres a lot of other shit you can have like weapon customization, 20 second rejoin times, etc

[short plaza]

I handle anything in armor with the surge staff lately gotta say 😂

[rigid sky]

Health bars is a minor cheat imo

[quartz barn]

i personally have qol mods and little to no mods that change ui

[rigid sky]

Not a bad one but a little bit of one

[short plaza]

(especially since I took an overhead while bragging-dodging around a crusher)

[bold cape]

what's a cheat and what's not is highly debated among the community
define for yourself what's cheaty and what's not, and use whatever you want

[quartz barn]

healthbars arent cheating tho

[rigid sky]

Just do bear in mind that it is a small advantage

[short plaza]

Could it get me into trouble to have it ? I don't want my account to be suspended

[bold cape]

no

[rigid sky]

Very unlikely

[quartz barn]

the only mod that came close was the auto skill check on the hacking device

[bold cape]

theres no mods on nexus that will ban you
as long as you're not cheating in cosmetics you dont own or something like that, they literally don't care

and i haven't seen that before

[short plaza]

Ah OK. Well I'm afraid I'm addicted to buying cosmetics anyway

[quartz barn]

literally all i have lmao

[rigid sky]

But it's like if you are charging up a Thrust folding shovel heavy and see two crushers

And one has 100% hp and the other 1%

It affects your decision making in that moment

Like I said very minor but still an advantage

[quartz barn]

also weapon custom shows a lot of underlying bs in cosmetics

[short plaza]

Consider your character notices one is wounded 😂

[quartz barn]

because there's a ton of skins/ornaments that are in game but just arent obtainable because of fomo

[bold cape]

definitely
weapon customization is a huge part of the fun in this game for me ngl
making my weapons actually match my outfits is 10/10

[short plaza]

OK some ennemies do look like wounded while at 100% health but...

[rigid sky]

And some don't show damage much

[short plaza]

Style is important!

[bold cape]

plus weapon skins are bought for ONE weapon, not for all weapons like it should be

[quartz barn]

also for those who didnt know

shaders arent really made any more because a shaded weapon counts as a seperate skin.......

nice bloat

also unobtainable unless there's a mod that specifically lets you change shaders that i dont know about

[tacit stump]

i have some mods which give game advatage like more detailed hud

[short plaza]

Do you have a screen with it at hand or perhaps in a few words what does it do?

[tacit stump]

dodge counter, ammo box counter exact hp and shield

ammo acounter by teammates, color marked stims

[short plaza]

I think there's already the numbers of the health and toughness in the game but the dodge counter could be useful

[rigid sky]

All stuff that you can glean from game knowledge apart from the ammo box counter and teammate ammo counter

[ornate hamlet]

hi late reply but i will not be gunkering cos the whole point of playing psyker is to not have to use guns, thx for the info tho

[rigid sky]

Treat it like a hidden 5th class

[ornate hamlet]

i dont think i can ever not use empowered psyonics cos chain sniping elites with magic is so fun

[rigid sky]

It really is

I play every type of everything lol

Except for thunder hammers

[upper sun]

ironhelm good

pls play ironhelm

[short plaza]

Let's make a support club for psykers unaware they're sorcerers

They need to be repeatedly told they're wizards like Harry

Have we already seen a wizard with a gun? I don't think so

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/11-gif-27595507

one thing i rly dontlike about psyker is dreadful movement speed

both slow and run out of stam fast

[short plaza]

I've been in a run with 3 zealots. Enjoying a lot my zealot movement speed I immediately asked not to be left behind. 😂

[mental rock]

Just play knife psyker then

[ornate hamlet]

do u run faster with knife

[mental rock]

Duelling swords are also pretty quick

[trim arch]

i love dueling sword

[trim arch]

yes

i think

[mental rock]

Yeah they have some of the best mobility in the game

[short plaza]

I feel like the psyker should be moving fast if we're equipping our power (=bare hands) but well perhaps it would be out of balance

[trim arch]

you go like ZOOMMM

[trim arch]

let me focus my power to my feet to go super speed

[ornate hamlet]

is it worth putting mobility stuff on curios

[rigid sky]

Gunker, if you have no preconceptions about it, is probably the build I actually enjoy playing the most

[mental rock]

Scriers increases move speed aswell

[rigid sky]

I see it as you're channelling the warp into yourself rather than into powers

[mental rock]

Killing a DD enemy also gives movespeed

[short plaza]

Gunker is the preconception a psyker has to use a firearm but he has psionic powers to exactly avoid doing such a thing

[mental rock]

Lots of ways for psyker to be quick

[marble crater]

Every weapon has a sprint speed, some weapons make you run pretty fast, knives, dueling swords and some guns with high mobility

[rigid sky]

https://youtu.be/w72gfLeJ7wg?si=jk0DG0qOBHmZeld7

[rigid sky]

Meanwhile I'm firing more bullet per bullet than a veteran could ever hope to

[rigid sky]

It's on the list!

I need a mod to give me more loadout slots

I have 5 zealot builds already

[spice veldt]

there do indeed be a mod for that

but i don't know its name

[short plaza]

The villain obviously didn't have deflector. 😎

[upper sun]

delete all of them and replace them all with 4 different versions of marty

[rigid sky]

Good news! The Moebian 6th and the Cult of Admonition don't either

[mental rock]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/209

[rigid sky]

<3

[mental rock]

Also recommend hardtide for fun

My record is 15 auric wins in a row

[rigid sky]

What's that

[mental rock]

It's a mod which counts number of successful missions in a row that a loadout has done

You can sync with online servers to see other people with the mod

Kind of adds extra stakes to aurics if you want

[rigid sky]

Tbh I'm happy to just pass at all still

[mental rock]

That's fine too, I just think it's a cool concept

[plucky flax]

Take both.

[empty ocean]

the only perfect roll curio ive gotten on my psyker

[short plaza]

Good. Only 2 more. 😇

[hushed egret]

not even perfect roll. wounds can get +2

or at least that's what the legends say

[short plaza]

Does it?

[rigid sky]

From the dark ages yea

[short plaza]

Can have +6 wounds? 🥰

[rigid sky]

And those ones got patched

[short plaza]

Aaah. The disappointment.

[hushed egret]

oh so they're gone

[rigid sky]

You can get +5 on zelly

[hushed egret]

that's dissappointing, Zealot cant even get max martyr stacks

[bold cape]

wounds hurt me

[short plaza]

Myeah the zealot +2 wounds is what made me think initially wound = more health

[upper sun]

buff zealot to +3 wounds from talents

[short plaza]

Before I figured out the wound system...

[rigid sky]

You can, it goes up to 7 right

2 from basic, 3 from curios, 5 from talent

[hushed egret]

7 wounds, yeah. but you cant be missing 7 wounds

[rigid sky]

Oh, true

[hushed egret]

yeah

[short plaza]

You can but you won't make great use of the buff 😂

[marble crater]

You can miss 7 wounds, but you can't use them

Because you will be dead

[upper sun]

pretty sure zealot is 2 from being alive 2 from talents

[rigid sky]

That's what I meant

I accidentally double added

[upper sun]

not on damnation or heresy

the devs want everyone to just play malice all the time and accept groaners and infested on our weapons

[short plaza]

Which difficulty is malice?

[marble crater]

Playing malice sounds worse than being turned into a servitor

[marble crater]

The third

[short plaza]

Ah OK. I assumed the difficulty 4 is the "standard lvl 30" threshold similar to vermintide legend and level 5 was cata (but the whole auric version just messes with my comparison)

[marble crater]

Auric is just t4 and t5 with extra modifier always

and lights out, which is only in auric

[upper sun]

also extra enemy hp

nah

ive seen lower lights out

[marble crater]

Really? I never see it anywhere

[upper sun]

or was it vent purge?

[spice veldt]

the period of spawns basically lasts longer in auric missions before periods of peace happen

[willow hull]

whats the difference between the two smite modes

[short plaza]

Since I hate anything confusing more the fights I'm sure lights out would be hitting hard my nerves 😂

[upper sun]

i wish theyd give t4 hp bars with t5 density and amounts my trash weapons would hit so many bps

[short plaza]

Angry special director 😢

[marble crater]

LMB is quicker but very few enemies, RMB needs to charge but is a huge aoe stun

Most of the time you will use RMB

[short plaza]

The right clic seems best used 99% of the time (or as often as possible)

[willow hull]

thanks

i will use rmb almost all the time, as usually if i am panicking at an enemy close by its probably better for me to just switch to a melee rathar than try smite them

[short plaza]

Hmmm depends, in my experience even at close the right clic smite is very effective to stagger ennemies, especially some sneaking behind a teammate or something

But once you release the smite the ennemies tend being staggered for a moment again or even fall on the floor and there you can go after them with your melee weapon. Not even needed to fully charge your smite

[willow hull]

would you guys say venting shriek or telekine shield (im not smart enough for scryers gaze) is better for support smite

[hushed egret]

depends

both are good in their own ways

shriek will net you more uptime, shield will grant you more defense

[upper sun]

whatever you like best vent for more damage shield either for collecting pubs or double wall for being ballsy

[hushed egret]

smite is alreeady a ton of cc so you dont necessarily need the extra defense of shield, but that doesnt mean the combo is worthless, just more one or the other in the moment most of the time

[short plaza]

I made a support build with smite and shield but more experienced players than I have advised preferring shriek

[upper sun]

oh we dont do support here

we just kill stuff

[marble crater]

Killing is the best support

[upper sun]

mods should ban the S word 😭

[short plaza]

I can get along with this 😂

[willow hull]

ive mained zealot for too long that mindlessly killing stuff has gotten rathar boring

i prefer mindfully killing stuff

[hearty oak]

||Scoreboard||

[marble crater]

Then use shriek with smite

[upper sun]

⚙️

best teaser since game release ^

[marble crater]

It's not much of a teaser if we already know what they mean, is it?

[willow hull]

adeptus mechanicus CONFIRMED???

hadron will be added to the game in 3

[vernal agate]

Hello, so sorry, i rolled a few trauma staffs, need some feedback on em 🥺 im not too sure about the stat priority on these rending trauma staffs

and then is this flame trauma any good? or should I keep grinding for a better one, i feel like the stat distribution is a little meh

[short plaza]

Personally I'd be appealed toward the 2nd one but I'm still learning

[upper sun]

they all seem good first one tho id go flak instead of carap

[marble crater]

The second rending trauma is better, imo. Blaze trauma could be better with the stats, but I don't think it's bad enough that you need to grind a new one before the crafting update.

[upper sun]

id use 3rd and 1st

[upper sun]

flurry should in theory cover up for the low charge speed but idk what the range on it is

[marble crater]

I don't know either, higher charge rate and quell speed seems more comfy though, if nothing else

[hushed egret]

charge rate is the first stat you want maxed

blast radius second

for the other 3, kinda your pick for which to dump but I'd pick between the peril stats

[upper sun]

warp res as a dump stat is best since it scales the worst with higher %

i tested on surges

but both 80% and 60% get you to 5 charged attacks

one you end up with 100% peril and one with 96% so not that big of a gap

[short plaza]

Yeah warp resistance I feel is really the least important

Since you can cast any fully charged spell at idk 95% peril and still only reaches 100% "safely"

[hushed egret]

I'd still say quell speed isnt that important either so I'm not gonna be picky between the two

[upper sun]

i wouldnt go too low with quell

50 50 dump quell warp res seems great imo

[ember solstice]

Been thinking that psykers should have some kinda foresight ability as a passive

[hushed egret]

quell speed scales quickly with %, but it doesnt take long to quell in general

[ember solstice]

It sounds reasonable right?

[upper sun]

were not navigators 😭

[hushed egret]

they definitely could have been more creative with psyker passives

[ember solstice]

I know but like short range wall vision at best is what I’m saying lol

[upper sun]

an all psyker tide game would go hard ngl

[hushed egret]

but your passives arent meant to be all that powerful or playstyle defining anyways

[upper sun]

each class is a different type of psyker

[ember solstice]

Fair

Surprised veteran is still alive

Cuz 15 hour frontline life expectancy lmao

[upper sun]

vet chat is carried by the one guy making a 400 page long guide

hes the only one keeping them alive

[hushed egret]

vet chat should be the most alive tbh. has the most build variety and most unique passives

lots to discuss

[upper sun]

whats there to discuss? kraks peesword peegun peeshout peetag

[short plaza]

Class-shamingggg

[rigid sky]

Shriek 100%

Smite needs Shriek to combo with

[rigid sky]

Arguably, that's DD

[glossy brook]

what would youu guys say is the best build to carry 3 friends thru damnation at low lvl?

[ornate hamlet]

real

[rigid sky]

EP brain rupture trauma

[glossy brook]

bet will give that a shot

[rigid sky]

With either shield or Shriek

I prefer shield with that personally

Blaze Trauma specifically

But idk other might work fine too

[glossy brook]

love me some shriek but shield so good

[willow hull]

psykers changing genetic code every time they respec blitz and ability

[rigid sky]

I use Shriek on most of my builds

But I really dig shield on this build

It's good for gently encouraging good behaviours from newbies too

It's the most obvious "stand here, cretins" sign that exists

[glossy brook]

HAHA facts!

im sold that makes sense

[rigid sky]

I personally do bubble

But walls gives better brain rupture value

[short plaza]

Bubble for the win

Fun thing it bounces ennemies grenades

[rigid sky]

I'm a toughness glutton

So I'm all about the bubble

[willow hull]

is scriers gaze good for assail? it seems really good for damage but it might be hard to keep peril from going to 100

[hollow current]

You have to be careful with it but if there's a group of flak elites you can gaze and assail.

If you have a red stim too, it goes nuts since it also reduces peril generation.

[rigid sky]

I would say assail is good for gaze

More than the other way around

[willow hull]

would you say thats worth using over shriek or shield

[rigid sky]

Gaze is for your gun and melee primarily

[rigid sky]

If you use a gun, use gaze

[willow hull]

i dont have any good weapons yet im lvl 14

[rigid sky]

Otherwise generally don't

You can do some funky stuff with voidstrike or purgatus and gaze

But I wouldn't recommend it

If you are levelling I wouldn't take it tbh

It's a max level gunker toy

[willow hull]

by it do you mean assail or gaze

[hollow current]

scriers gaze. guns see the best use out of it, generally.

[rigid sky]

Gaze

Assail is great for all levels

Arguably OP for lower levels even, but fair and strong at 30

[willow hull]

would you guys say shriek or shield is better for low level assail

[rigid sky]

Either can work tbh

If you take Shriek get creeping flames

[short plaza]

Well shriek is nice to spam your staff but shield can eventually save a dire situation you'll likely run into while leveling and learning the game

[hollow current]

maybe shriek with the warpfire/creeping flames node?

[willow hull]

i dont think its possible to get wildfire as assail

oh wait

wait no i dont think you can idk

[empty ocean]

im gonna put flak in place of infested but i think i got pretty lucky with this

[hollow jolt]

But who will kill dogs and bursters if you replace it UwU

[hearty oak]

Low rolling crit bonus. Unless that doesnt affect it much

[empty ocean]

it doesnt

crit bonus sucks ass in genral

it only adds damage to the extra gained from criting

[hollow jolt]

Sadly crit is weird in this game

[empty ocean]

if you hit for 100 normally and crit for 200 a 10% crit bonus would make you crit for 210

but really its more like you hit for 800, crit for 900, and a 10% crit bonus would make you crit for 910

[marble crater]

It also affects crit chance, which is a bigger deal

[rigid sky]

The lifesave part is very marginal once you get gud

The real power is the creeping flames but I think we went over this earlier today lol

Shriek = fus ro dah + dragon breath

[empty ocean]

it only says melee crit chance here

it can still indefinitely keep up perfect timing without it

[hushed egret]

yeah you want high crit bonus for high crit chance above anything else

more reliably trigger those crit passives

[glossy brook]

can you drop the build you use for this?

[honest robin]

is surge staff actually decent? i saw someone using one in damnation that was doing a miserable job but theirs might have just sucked. i've got flurry4 in my melk shop and a base but it puts me perilously low on melkbux (im also buying knife uncanny4)

i was watching them take two shocks to kill a bruiser it was painful

[rigid sky]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9c37316f-65a8-41b8-a206-3c282bdbdeb7

Second blessing and both perks on Deimos are flexible

Luxury talent picks I chose are Wildfire, Warp Expenditure, Psychic Leeching, 15 Toughness, Empathic Evasion. These are all droppable if you want e.g. true aim, puppet master

Also aura is flexible

[short plaza]

I enjoy mine in lvl 4 to kill elites / specials quickly at medium range or inside a horde

[honest robin]

i've got this thing waiting to have flurry put on it

not quite perfect but pretty decent

[rigid sky]

It can be very good.

[short plaza]

It's bette than mine 😢

[rigid sky]

You want to pair it with Illisi and probably Smite tbh

[short plaza]

I think you can swap the crit chances and barrage trait ?

[honest robin]

yeah thats the plan

i have played a lot and i check all my stores obsessively for good bases, plus i have 2 level 30 psykers for melk stores lmao

aw wait it was flurry on a voidstrike that was for sale not surge

which is a harder decision to spend on because i already have

[rigid sky]

You have an arguably perfect void already tbh

[honest robin]

yeah its just for the other kind of void

i think i save the melkbux i dont use void a lot already

i need to be able to buy power cycler 4 if it comes up in the shop

on either of my veterans

[rigid sky]

And if you're gonna Void

Why wouldn't you take the crushus deletus version

[honest robin]

i do the 5 wp hit auto crit so ironically the fire blessing might have been better than nexus, but it doesnt hurt to have extra chances at double shot when i AM shooting

for some reason im way more prone to exploding using this thing than any other peril tool

[hushed egret]

if they're taking 2 shocks to kill a bruiser, they did either zero charging (probably still would've killed) or they didnt use surge on that guy

[honest robin]

i was blaming it on surge blessing but i couldnt replicate in psykhanium

and it doesnt generate extra peril

[rigid sky]

Gotta take Shriek with that imo

It's good to be able to go wider with your attacks

Void struggles in open fields like ascension riser 31

[honest robin]

i just pull the sword and go sicko mode

[rigid sky]

Shriek does the whole gallery at once

[honest robin]

im running laspistol rn for funny han solo antics

hand hurting head clicks

[rigid sky]

Laspistol is good

I like CIAG more

But laspistol is also good

Less time spent reloading and better antishooter

[honest robin]

ciag is better

faster ttk, less caring about aiming, better perf vs some armor types i think, but not as funny

i play the laspistol like a headhunter 8 that isnt annoying to pull out

[rigid sky]

The upside of the laspistol is the reload time and interval, and the suppression immunity

It's not enough to beat CIAG for me though

[long wharf]

laspistol lost a lot of its dps when FartShart nerfed its firerate

[spice veldt]

it was 4.44/s before, buffed to 5/s, and then dropped back to 4.44/s

[pallid spindle]

Yeah. Surge is perfectly good in auric damnation and maelstrom. Take it with Venting Shriek / Creeping Flames, both to deal with hordes via soulblaze burn and because it's a high peril weapon

[narrow herald]

It's used in this build: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ba81400-4c60-4362-9756-f93428dfc021/azyr-psyker-smite-venting-shriek-empowered-psionics-auric-ready

Might be able to move a couple nodes around at the top, but the key for surge is to make sure you have Solidity

It kinda sucks u need to waste a couple points to get it, but this build doesn't need anything else so you don't mind the extra toughness

[honest robin]

It feels better than 30% i think like its speeding you along the curve, its a good perk i think if you're quelling

Ep smite blitz for horde clear is funny but you're point poor and going to blast away warp battery anyway so why not

I love DD but there's just no way on that one

Regardless i didn't get flurry for it today so its on the back burner

In 4.5 hours melk will sell me surge flurry and pc 4 alhamdulilah

[spice veldt]

what solidity does is reduce the tick interval from 250ms to 175ms, so the benefit is 1/0.7 = 1.43x more peril quelled over time

[marble crater]

So another tooltip that's slightly misleading

[narrow herald]

You also don't want to waste your vent on the surge, because you want to use it to extend the duration of your smite.

[thorn cedar]

solidity is zany fast

[spice veldt]

it's a tragedy because if it were actually "quell speed" as the stat modifier on the weapon, it would take us from 12.31% peril per tick (80% quell speed) to 21.55% peril per tick (110% quell speed)

so sad

[marble crater]

Red weapons when