psyker-class

[upper sun]

lotus field meta best meta

[ornate hamlet]

wanna dm about mtg?

[upper sun]

sure but we can also talk here people talk about gym food etc

at least this is a game

[ornate hamlet]

epic, I never ventured into the text channels so i didn't know if this was a server with a stick up its butt

[upper sun]

nah this ones chill

in the cyberpunk discord theyre really anal

[ornate hamlet]

in a lot of them people are anal

[upper sun]

but yeah play any arena?

[ornate hamlet]

I am ex semi pro on arena

[upper sun]

nice

if you ever saw anyone play brawl with the double mana 12/12 green blue guy it was me

[ornate hamlet]

the guy from the weird set in a set?

[upper sun]

yeee

tho i stopped playing about 2-3 sets ago?

[ornate hamlet]

standard is in a good spot rn

[upper sun]

is it?

i got wild carded out of standard like a rotation ago?

[ornate hamlet]

off meta is viable, thats basically my only criteria

[ornate hamlet]

sets are huge and that is painful

[upper sun]

ye

shit what was the last set i played

[ornate hamlet]

are you an explorer dude I assume?

[upper sun]

nah i played that shit when it was in standard

i watched a bunch of explorer on twitch tho

I think i stopped around Ixalan or eldrain

[ornate hamlet]

I don't remember those being in rotation at the same time

[lethal lagoon]

[upper sun]

essentially from inisitrad to eldrain thats how long i played

but yeah i got locked out of standard couldnt even claw my way out of gold so i kinda stopped

needed like +20 cards for each set i wanted to play

[ornate hamlet]

this biggest pain in the ass was them cutting out metagame challenges for a few months

[upper sun]

and I will not give myself brain rot with mono red or mono blue

[ornate hamlet]

literally pay to enter at that point

[upper sun]

i usually only got the battlepas thing

[ornate hamlet]

they brought them back but less frequently

[ornate hamlet]

fair enough

[upper sun]

for 20 dollars its great value

and if you win a couple of drafts its free

[ornate hamlet]

true

Wotc paired up with matcherino and last I checked that scene is still active, it's free entry tourneys to win gem codes

if you have interest I'll check if it still exists

[upper sun]

nah not so much i have the makings of a cube with me if i ever wanna play ill do tabletop with friends

i also have the challenger sets from like 2020? those are great for teaching the game

[ornate hamlet]

I have a cube but it got boring too fast, I recommend proxy cubes ngl

[ornate hamlet]

facts

[upper sun]

yee

[ornate hamlet]

planeswalker decks were the teaching tool that made veterans want to kill themself and newbs quit

[upper sun]

i really hope the pinkertons dont break my knees for having the audacity to print a 40 dollar cards

rip planeswalkers

[ornate hamlet]

only if its not released yet (:

[upper sun]

have they even made new ones? or did they despark everyone

[ornate hamlet]

they desparked everyone them some time whatever happens now they're still alive

boring ass story

[upper sun]

lmao

poor chandra she was a real one

[ornate hamlet]

basically equivilent to "then the main character wakes up and realized it was a bad dream" lazy af

[ornate hamlet]

she's still alive

they hyped up jace's death

now he's alive again

[upper sun]

lmao

[ornate hamlet]

I can only take so much of the hype getting exposed to be shit marketing

[upper sun]

Teferi and triss can suck it tho

fucking awful to play against them

[ornate hamlet]

lil t was banned or alchemized in everything, until they made timeless (think something like arena vintage) no alterations but some cards are restricted

[upper sun]

ye bunch of his planeswalker cards got banned

[ornate hamlet]

at least we got a lot of fun toys to make him almost unplayable XD

lil t was the worst offender by FAR

[upper sun]

tho the alchemy only one for triss was SO fucking awful to play against in brawl

hell queue for real

[ornate hamlet]

timeless is for you if you wanna play 4 oko tho ngl

[upper sun]

its like her dragon dude and pilgrim

[ornate hamlet]

tbh 4 oko is kinda bad tho

[upper sun]

i think i quit shortly before timeless

[ornate hamlet]

I think it's 2 sets old now

[upper sun]

innistard to new cappena was peak for me

id be down to draft that if they kept doing more events for them

[ornate hamlet]

the 2 part ravnica coming back was my favorite

everyone crapped their pants about assassin's trophy, just for it to be mid was hilarious

[upper sun]

also is it just me or is the power creep a lot worse in standard

like i remember when i just started id make bullshit decks and theyd be usable

now everyone and their mother is copying meta decks from corkeyz and running it

[ornate hamlet]

you can still play offmeta just not shit offmeta

[upper sun]

damn

[ornate hamlet]

3 color piles are always playable at tier 1.5 imo

in timeless you can play offmeta sorta but not really

this standard has wiggle room

OH also they changed to 3 blocks in a rotation for standard versus 2

makes rotation hurt less

[upper sun]

idk i ran weird shit and it worked

i had a bullshit treasure deck

where its sole reason was to make treasure

the only win con i had was treasure draggon and the guy who rolled dice for 8 mana

and it kinda worked

[ornate hamlet]

winconless decks are not viable XD

[upper sun]

the wincon was making the enemy so bored they surrender

now the fucking boardwipe and attraxa metas are so awful to play against

[ornate hamlet]

atraxa meta is mid imo, Grixis sweeps it up pretty easily

tidebinder is gross

[upper sun]

lemme see what was the last deck i played

[ornate hamlet]

if you can jump in vc I'd be happy to show you my grixis pile

[upper sun]

its very late i cant vc

[ornate hamlet]

fair enough

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/destroy-the-sith-star-wars-it-was-said-that-you-would-destroy-the-sith-not-join-them-gif-16486235

you played atraxa XD

[upper sun]

yeah ikno but its missing a lot of cards

OH NO WAIT

thats the other attraxa one

its the super meme card cycle one

essentially a lot of [[witness the future}} briefcase and bigscore

[ornate hamlet]

mhmmmm

https://tenor.com/view/storm-trooper-traitor-starwars-gif-15518569

[upper sun]

leyline binding time!!!

[ornate hamlet]

ew

card is nuts

[upper sun]

if you think thats bad

[ornate hamlet]

no its insane

leyline binding is busted

[upper sun]

this is my brawl setup

[ornate hamlet]

got the codie XD

[upper sun]

hell yeah

you know whats in it right?

[ornate hamlet]

I don't know the contents of your codie

[ornate hamlet]

bruh

[upper sun]

yeah

[ornate hamlet]

seems a little reliant on codie living LMAO

just a tad

[upper sun]

yeah just a bit

[ornate hamlet]

and naturally finding approach

I give this 7/10 on the meme deck scale

[upper sun]

its you you can mulligan to zero

[ornate hamlet]

true, since everything else is a land

the definition of "I thought seize you", "ok gg"

[upper sun]

its ok they're gonna be too busy ramping

no way they have a +1 mana rite RIGHT?

[ornate hamlet]

facts, the person with all their mana won't have mana

how do you rank 66 rat colony tribal on the meme scale?

[marble crater]

Oh my god, I didn't know there was something more annoying than binding tag to shooting, but I just encountered it

Basically pinging wherever he goes, "Go there" onto 3 shooters

[upper sun]

hate the game not the player bro just wants his penance

[upper sun]

its usable unironically

[marble crater]

What penance? It was a zealot

[upper sun]

[marble crater]

It was so distracting

Because naturally you think oh there is a threat, but no, he pings some poxwalkers and then the maulers are coming from the other direction

[upper sun]

SAVE ME 5 POXWALKERS ARE COMING

[rich spindle]

Passive agressive ping spamming the elevator

[strong gulch]

Awhile ago, you know who robot recommended binding ping to your primary attack.

[upper sun]

me?

based

[strong gulch]

no lol

[upper sun]

im starting to like he who must not be named

it think hes doing it on purpose

[strong gulch]

I hope so. The other option is more upsetting.

[upper sun]

man one person kept ping spamming tag when i told him to stop he said "it stacks"

[marble crater]

[upper sun]

i blocked them on the spot then left the game

my rule is block toxic not bad since bad can improve but thats a mix of both right?

[marble crater]

Misguided

[spice veldt]

people who ping for me to go forward when I'm looting are also quite annoying

mf can see the plasteel notifications but still pings

[rich spindle]

Does blocking stop being matched together

[upper sun]

yes

[rich spindle]

Thats nice

Theres one awful psyker who queues for auric late at night

Great teammate but is just awful

[lethal lagoon]

[rich spindle]

And his name rhymes with shmatlas

[lethal lagoon]

Oh that's good

My name isn't Atlas ingame

[cosmic sigil]

you know you can disable that sound right?

[lethal lagoon]

(heresy)

I didn't know that though, will keep in mind if I ever run into those keybinding motherfuckers

[rich spindle]

Theres always that one 4 wound guy queueing for auric

Team score of 47 at the end

[cosmic sigil]

i can't remember where it is tbh, maybe in the accessibility setting

[lone ravine]

its just in audio "team ping noise"

[cosmic sigil]

also, i put tag on rmb, so i can focus target ads and identify threats quite easily

[cosmic sigil]

thank you!

[upper sun]

nah just bind them to the same key

🤔

actually what would happen if you bind all buttons to the same key

(you become the top rated zealot)

[cosmic sigil]

i bind attack to sprint

zoom zoom

[calm sapphire]

U infect every pub within your vicinity with brain rot

[marble crater]

Which would also disable actually useful pings

[hoary leaf]

these good perks? I dont like how low the damage is but compared to the other one I rakned up I like these perks more

I meant Blessings

what should I be looking for on this is prolly the better question

[spice veldt]

ping noises are whatevs since you can still see the tag/mark
the situation where I can notice the tag/mark is also a situation where I can react to it

[spice veldt]

dumdum + some other blessing of your choice

[hoary leaf]

hmm allrighty, think I have dumdum in my armory so might swap out stripped down once I get some more Plasteel

[cosmic sigil]

what arco said, the red silhouette is useful enough

[hoary leaf]

also they need to add buying Plasteel with Diamantine

[cosmic sigil]

i have murdered by proxy a lot of snipers that way

[spice veldt]

i personally also have the enemy tag skull disabled with a mod

[cosmic sigil]

i don't even see it anymore

it's like spidey sense

[hoary leaf]

I want people to tag more, been having a lot of games where someone is dying because they are getting swarmed by Maulers recently but they dont ping so I dont even know they are there

[cosmic sigil]

yeah that;s bad

if i am down you can be sure i will let you know what killed me so that you can rescue me or not

also, is there a staff that goes well with sg + dd?

maybe as a support

[marble crater]

So I would also still see the useless pings I can give it a try at least

[spice veldt]

it's less distracting and is basically just like a DD mark or exe's stance mark

[austere tide]

should rampage be kept, or should it be switched out with uncanny strike?

[spice veldt]

no skull and no noise is good nuff to no longer be a distraction even if spammed

[upper sun]

up to you really personally idk if rampage even does much on ds4 clear

[marble crater]

We will see when I get the next spam pings to test it

I would change rampage to uncanny

[upper sun]

peak

[marble crater]

[mental grail]

Are agripinaa guns ever worth using

[cosmic sigil]

this one is not

[spice veldt]

headhunters are nice

[cosmic sigil]

you got

[spice veldt]

the agri 9 suffers from the problem of staggering enemies before the 2nd shot hits

so, your first shot lands, and then it staggers the enemy, causing their head to move out of the way of the 2nd shot

[cosmic sigil]

and recoil as well

[spice veldt]

there was something else with it that was/is straight up broken but i forgot what it is or if they've fixed it

[cosmic sigil]

still not fixed iirc

[lyric burrow]

i thought it was just the stagger

cause the first shot had the wrong stagger name set to iut

[paper lily]

just kill them with the first shot

i prefer agrip

[lyric burrow]

heavy_stagger rather than killshot

[paper lily]

but i run 25 stacks of dd on gun psyker

[cosmic sigil]

i remember Crab talking about something like that for knife

[spice veldt]

oh right i think it was just the issue of not shooting the 2nd shot but presumably that's been fixed

[cosmic sigil]

they put like something that never worked

but because it's lua, nah, it didn't generate any error

[lyric burrow]

very sad

at least v7 exists

[paper lily]

oh im dumb

i run vraks 7

[lyric burrow]

and 3 if your ok with the borked recoil

[paper lily]

i thought that was an iag

[lyric burrow]

nah agri iag is the mk1

[paper lily]

i just saw rifle looking gun, agrip

[cosmic sigil]

mk1 is nice

[lyric burrow]

mk1 is great

[paper lily]

i won't use any hh until they get cleave increase

[cosmic sigil]

maybe there's something on psyker with dd and true aim?

[lyric burrow]

i run p much every gun with DD psyke r

most things work

[rigid sky]

It's addictive

So much damage

[lyric burrow]

v7 is my fav HH for them mostly because ease of use

[paper lily]

i think it's ass personally

[rigid sky]

Plus fun minigame

[paper lily]

i only run gun psyker to switch it up

[lyric burrow]

supression blows though

graia is probably my fav iag but columnus is strongets

[rigid sky]

I am a bad gun psyker

But I love to play it

[lyric burrow]

i just dont like how strong it is

so i do not run it

[cosmic sigil]

graia is so much nice to shoot

[paper lily]

i don't even think it's the strongest psyker build

[cosmic sigil]

way less recoily

[lyric burrow]

well no not when void and trauma exist

[paper lily]

i don't see the point to run graia over either of the lighter or heavier ones

u get way way way more cleave with agrip and the recoil is equally as nice

[rigid sky]

Columnus feels great idk

I love being able to annihilate an entire corridor

[spice veldt]

prob BP reasons to run graia

[lyric burrow]

Columnus is undeniably the strongest gun for psyker other than maybe laspistol

[cosmic sigil]

crit strings is 3 for graia, 2 for agri and 4 for columnus

[rigid sky]

I pay for it in squishiness

[lyric burrow]

i just like the feel of graia tbh

[paper lily]

not really bothered about crit strings, the weakspot dmg bonus is enough

[rigid sky]

Why not both :D

[cosmic sigil]

graia is a nice middleground between agri and columnus

[paper lily]

i hate wasting a fuckton of ammo with the lighter ones when i have to shoot through shit to hit dd target

[lyric burrow]

and agri is comparable enough its w/e

i just run what im feeling

[rigid sky]

I usually don't care, it's still more kills

Even if it's chaff

[lyric burrow]

assail covers 90% of gun use cases anyway

[spice veldt]

e.g., graia can hit trash ranged bps on vet
though I still like the agri just for gunner twoshots

[rigid sky]

Plus I'm assail spamming

[lyric burrow]

(and melee)

[rigid sky]

But I use the easy DD version

[paper lily]

i don't think i consider bp's on any of my builds

i just consider situations

[rigid sky]

I consider it for stuff like void, Plasma, revolvers

Not really for autoguns

[spice veldt]

for the rifle guns, they're going to play similarly so it's just breakpoints that matter

[cosmic sigil]

i have a crusher bias with ny loadouts

i need to have a way to kill them

[paper lily]

i think the agrip is set apart by the differing cleave value personally

[rigid sky]

TTK rather than breakpoints really

[spice veldt]

yeah being able to shoot through ogryn teammates is nice

[rigid sky]

And ammo economy, reload, etc

[cosmic sigil]

i don't trust pubs

[rigid sky]

Very yes

[lyric burrow]

agri cleave is mostly QOL for me but not game changing

[rigid sky]

Getting an ogryn = I ain't playing CIAG

[lyric burrow]

cause i have assail anyway

[rigid sky]

Miserable experience lmao

I'll just trauma everything around them instead

[paper lily]

i don't even bother with assail on gun psyker

just untalented smite into aura for more scriers

[cosmic sigil]

i am protecting you president sah!

[spice veldt]

i'm fine with it just because ogryns are the rarest of the classes so it's less likely to get 2 or more on the team for it to be a disruption to pewpewing

[lyric burrow]

tbf we are also in front

99% of the time

ogryns not named josho are slow AF

[paper lily]

i still have yet to see a gun psyker just go insane in a game

[cosmic sigil]

i see a lot more ogryns during the weekend

i get like on or two regularly

it's fun lol

[paper lily]

i never get ogryns

then i always get them

0 or 3

[lyric burrow]

yeah pub gunkers tend to be like

alright

or not great

[paper lily]

i've played with some that looked like they were playing the kit decently enough

but still not even close to what a staff psyker can do

and they're slurping ammo

[lethal lagoon]

I ran into a pub gunker and it was the closet score I had, 804k vs 805k

I never really see pub gunkers though

[cosmic sigil]

i play gunspyker most of the time, unless there's another one, or not vet with aura or just people with ammo slurping gun

or i just qp and well, surprise surprise

[paper lily]

i just play whatever build i decided don't care about team choice

[hoary leaf]

I really want the Purgatas to be stronger

pretty good right now dont get me wrong but I want to burn down every map I get into

[paper lily]

it just doesn't have range

[cosmic sigil]

does surge play well with dd?

[paper lily]

no

it does okay but will never beat wc

[hoary leaf]

I have been watching too many Hollow Knight vids

[cosmic sigil]

it's a wc only ok

[hoary leaf]

everytime I see someone say DD her I think Decending Dark

[cosmic sigil]

so you go dd void then

[paper lily]

u could go dd for lmb staff gameplay too ig

[lethal lagoon]

You can run this build with Surge, it works super well

#1158835513789272126 message

Best Surge DD build, no question

🙂

[marble crater]

[cosmic sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-mutant-warhammer-40k-darktide-mutant-gif-1118053842768353546

[lethal lagoon]

[marble crater]

I will use it in auric tomorrow, if I lose I will blame you

[paper lily]

i had some painful games today

the rotating door of teammates is pretty funny though

[marble crater]

Can you top losing in the exit elevator, because people wanted to chat instead of getting inside and then we all died to fire and poxbursters?

[paper lily]

not today but i've absolutely had that happen

one of them was a maelstrom iirc where we had a brand new 30 vet muzzle inside of a spawn door just full auto

u bet ur ass a burster spawned up his ass

[marble crater]

Of course it did

[paper lily]

@patent steeple i think i had u in that game actually

https://i.imgur.com/dxaVr2s.png

this game was really painful

[marble crater]

I hope hat vet joined at the end of the mission

[paper lily]

nah he was there entire game

dead on cd

[marble crater]

How?

[paper lily]

just brand new vet, like i said face into the spawn door gun out full auto

classic jumping to dodge

[lethal lagoon]

You can one shot gunners with lmb with scriers or with the after buff

🙂

pew pew

[marble crater]

I did a Sedation run earlier and was able to one shot everything

[median sorrel]

giggles
slaps your exposed brain

[lone ravine]

the stats are pretty good on this weekly roll but the traits on it arent sob

[lethal lagoon]

1/3

[paper lily]

i would unironically use run n gun cuz i never rightclick

[median sorrel]

ngl seeing a psyker sprint while purgatusing would be hilarious

[lethal lagoon]

I'd upgrade cause I'm a gambler

[lone ravine]

i havent bought it because its like 70% of my current melk coins if i do buy it

[lethal lagoon]

Fulfill my desire to gamble

[lone ravine]

even if i did buy it i cant upgrade it im too broke 💀

[lethal lagoon]

[keen vale]

I knocked a helmet off a mauler and excuse me

[lone ravine]

a whole 89 platsteel rn

[lethal lagoon]

Meh, just 1 auric for purple to orange

[lone ravine]

(im not good enough at the game for auric games)

[paper lily]

get like 1k per average run these days

[lethal lagoon]

Meh just 1 normal damnation for purple to orange

[paper lily]

i always make speedrunners wait

[lethal lagoon]

[paper lily]

i will get my plasteel

[lone ravine]

im still out here playing malice 😭

[marble crater]

Neither are half the people in auric

[candid dawn]

im the speedrunner and I speedrun to nab the plasteel first

[lethal lagoon]

[paper lily]

u still gonna wait while i check all the shit

[candid dawn]

whats your guys thoughts on staff scriers

[lethal lagoon]

#1158835513789272126 message

It's amazing

🙂

[marble crater]

Dangerous

[lone ravine]

simply dont die

[paper lily]

shriek is just unbelievably op

[candid dawn]

ive been memeing purg scriers in auric quickplay and it actually kinda feels nice

[marble crater]

[paper lily]

think purg is the most valid staff with scrier

[lethal lagoon]

Purg generates so little peril, plus bm, I just straight up forget to quell sometimes

[candid dawn]

accidentally melting specials with scriers

[keen vale]

Alright chat, help me make a decision.
The Bad Boy

The Speed Buster

[paper lily]

im prob gonna pick top one

[lethal lagoon]

Charge rate is pretty huge on trauma

[paper lily]

i like doing min charge blasts with blitz cancel

[lethal lagoon]

min charge blasts will be stronger with more charge rate

[paper lily]

ur not wrong but quell speed is just such a huge stat value

60 to 79 is a massive difference

[lethal lagoon]

[marble crater]

None of the above

[keen vale]

I'll give the Speed Buster a try for now. I landed Warp Flurry III which is okay. The other blessing I wasn't happy with and replaced it with Transfer Quell until something better comes up.
It also had a crit blessing that I switched out in favor of carapace damage.

[marble crater]

What was the other blessing?

[paper lily]

https://i.imgur.com/9VOdUNw.png damn this purg goes hard

[lethal lagoon]

I'm not sure what you mean, but here's a perfect truama as an example
#psyker-class message

[keen vale]

Huh, warp resist as the dump stat? Strange, I'd have penned that stat as a keeper.

Anyway, after a mission, I think I'll get back to my older one. The quell speed difference really is significant, while the charge time was much less noticeable.

[lethal lagoon]

Well perfect perfect would probably be 70 quell 70 warp resist, but that's the closest I've seen to perfect.

You can look at the charge time difference in the thingy, it's pretty signifcant on trauma

[keen vale]

Yeah, though between my old and my new one, the feel wasn't significant enough to make me notice.
Whereas the quell speed made me go "...whoa, I had to wait a while this time, goodness me."

[lethal lagoon]

Are you peril edging?

[keen vale]

No, I basically pump & dump my peril like a private equity firm.

[lethal lagoon]

Ah, then yeah, you'd probably value quell spd way more

Same with warp resist

[lethal lagoon]

1/4?
ah for horde clear

[keen vale]

So for now, Bad Boy will do. It's not a perfect staff, but I play on Malice, so if anything I'm fishing for beauty more than anything else.

[paper lily]

i don't mind unarmored and run n gun

prob change warp flurry

[lethal lagoon]

[keen vale]

Not me! I like Warp Flurry.

[paper lily]

i don't rmb on purg ever

lmb only

[lethal lagoon]

Oh yeah, you animation cancel like crazy

So I get that

[paper lily]

even without it the lmb is just broken

[rich spindle]

How much damage does EP smite actually do now

[lethal lagoon]

If it's a non-juiced mael, my flame damage is like cut in half compared to before

Not even counting PC, EP smite and shriek will kill every Rager(and weaker) within this zone in 8 seconds.

[rich spindle]

Without shriek tho

[lethal lagoon]

As I said above, shriek isn't much damage in this combo

It extends the smite cast and gives breakpoints

[rich spindle]

Yeah

I just wanna know the ep smite damage

[lethal lagoon]

EP smite without shriek is still kinda mid

So I don't really see the point in testing something no one in their right mind should ever use

[upper galleon]

yea it's basically the combination that makes it work

[rich spindle]

Does it get to like 80% rsger health

[lethal lagoon]

I'm kinda curious, so I can check

[upper galleon]

it's not like you won't have shriek with cdr+cdr aura

[lethal lagoon]

But like the issue of testing one smite cast in a closed enviroment is that it doesn't mean anything.

You dont have shriek extension

you don't have BM

[rich spindle]

Sometimes rager or bulwark pack can pop up when shriek is on CD

Was wondering what kinda damage it does

[potent echo]

After playing more smite EP I can say that it is actually much more fun than trauma

[upper galleon]

really, really hard for that to happen

[lethal lagoon]

Right, but if there's a pack, there's probably poxxies

Poxxies give bm

You also have your team attacking, and ep smite is great at kill stealing

Which is CDR

[rich spindle]

I dont think so, for me. I spam shriek on CD

[upper galleon]

killing is quelling too

[lethal lagoon]

And PC

[upper galleon]

if you are spamming i guess?

taking cdr+ cdr aura

[lethal lagoon]

Oh fuck it did more than I thought

[upper galleon]

Creeping flames and PC will have spread by then

[lethal lagoon]

Lemme double check my dumbass put it on tier 5 and then I'll share the vid

[rich spindle]

Cool

[lethal lagoon]

K I did, I double checked cause I was kinda surprised

Do I have to redo my opinion that EP smite bubble is literally the cancer of the universe?

Nah

It's just so much better with shriek lmao

[potent echo]

Shriek upgrades you from a uwu support to a solo carry level

I went from EP smite to trauma and trauma isn't it

[lethal lagoon]

So they basically buffed EP smite to old EP smite + shriek levels

Holy fuck this upload spd

OH, I'm an idiot. It's probably because it's on my portable drive

[rich spindle]

Pretty good

About 80% looks like

Would it do less to the flak ragers?

Or is smite damage constant

[south zephyr]

Good or...?

[lethal lagoon]

It's less, they still die to a EP smite flaming shriek combo though

[lethal lagoon]

Purg Warp resist is naturally high, so it's probably fine

[rich spindle]

Cool

I actuslly want my piurg warp resist to be lower

[hoary leaf]

is DD bugged? I swear I never saw the buff go past 10 stacks on my bar

[lethal lagoon]

^ yeah, depending on my build, me too

[lethal lagoon]

DD has a visual bug

[hoary leaf]

like I still got progression for it but I never saw more than 5 stacks

[rich spindle]

I have my shriek ready and actually cant get to 84% peril before everything dies

[hoary leaf]

greaaaaaaat

ty

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah, if I was running purg shriek, I'd want ~50~ warp resist

[magic kayak]

worth the pickup? I mostly use the mkiv

everything is tier 3 which is kind of annoying hah

[shy pewter]

If you have a good mk4 I might not bother, but its a decent piece. -1 dodge is lackluster, T3 uncanny is fine, 20 flak is also fine

[magic kayak]

Is it capable of having 6 dodge?

[shy pewter]

hitting 51% gives another dodge

[magic kayak]

well, it has 5 now and 15% dodge distance

strange how it has mobility and defences which both show 4-5 dodge

[shy pewter]

yeah its weird

[rich spindle]

That extra dodge is less important than u think

Imo

[shy pewter]

Its not the most important, but it contributes to the roll being decent and not great (along with all the T3)

If I'm dropping 2500 melk bucks I want a great roll or a T4, but that's me

[rich spindle]

Word

I think the point of the mk5 is that it has the best dodge distance

[potent echo]

The whole point of mkv is the dodge yea

So getting a low mobility mkV is getting the worse of both worlds

[junior dirge]

completed my first damnation mission and reached lvl 30

[potent echo]

Ezgame

[shy pewter]

Congrats friend

[junior dirge]

we got attacked by a plague ogryn while stuck between a wall and a sleepy daemonhost and i thought that was gonna be it

[shy pewter]

Now its time to farm some gear and head into aurics 💪

[junior dirge]

[shy pewter]

Fighting a monster within spitting distance of a host is always a butt clench moment lol

[junior dirge]

yeah it was pretty awful

exploding barrel nearly knocked me into it too

[median sorrel]

knife zealots my beloathed

why they gotta hang around in lower level missions when im trying to level my new psyker

[shy pewter]

knife zealots either hard carry or immediately throw the match, there is very little middle ground

[median sorrel]

i've never seen one carry tbh, they always just aggro the whole map and then go down

[paper lily]

i've been knife zealoting recently to make up for how pissed off i get when i play melee ogryn

[median sorrel]

and if they somehow dont die they spam ping until you catch up

[paper lily]

no one wants to shoot the ranged well now they get a knife zealot

[median sorrel]

i just play psyker now to head pop the gunners that the vets somehow cant hit

[paper lily]

i never expect vets to do anything except die

especially use their ult, they never do that

i love that i can track that stat now too

[median sorrel]

my smoke veteran was

shouting to give my teammates enough toughness to tank a burster or melee hit

[paper lily]

i like smoke vets but my problem is no one seems to know you throw it in front of typical shooter chokes

like your team stands in it

most smoke vets throw them at fucking crushers which is just... what

[median sorrel]

oh fr, when i started out i'd throw smoke everywhere but after a while you get a feel for it

tho i've had psykers using smite and assail complaining about my smoke because they "can't see or aim at shit" like bruh

[paper lily]

[median sorrel]

you're using auto aim skills you dont even need to see

[paper lily]

tbf the smoke makes smite a fucking lightshow

[candid dawn]

ive always felt like smoke barely hinders your screen

[paper lily]

not just aiming, i literally can't see shit

[candid dawn]

like even purg staff is more visually distracting than smoke

[paper lily]

if u don't know how to stand in smoke properly, yeah it can be blinding

you need to stand just in front of the center of where you want to look at

[median sorrel]

wait until there's purg fire, smite, smoke and tox bomber gas

[paper lily]

don't even need all that shit, just tox gas is enough

[median sorrel]

you will eneter nrivana

[paper lily]

i legit can't see anything thru it

[median sorrel]

the fart cloud lasts too long imo 😭

[paper lily]

i like it

i think it doesn't do enough damage, it will only be a matter of time before people realize you can just beat up a horde and just tank it

[median sorrel]

it's cool how it buffs enemies but i hate when you get two tox bombers throwing them at doorways and you can't advance for like a solid 2 mins until someone kills it

[candid dawn]

bomber nade, purg staff and zealot flamer is enough

i already saw nirvana that day

[median sorrel]

[spice veldt]

tbf it's supposed to give -50% toughness regen instead of doing the opposite

[lyric burrow]

yeah i was gonna say its bugged rn

it will do more damage once its fixed

well

itll feel like it does

[paper lily]

it feels to me that even having 1 toughness will prevent any more corruption

i haven't specifically tested this, but it feels this way anyway

[spice veldt]

yeah it seems to work like the scab bomber's fire where having a certain minimum amount of toughness will prevent any health damage

[paper lily]

bomber just ticks insanely fast

whereas say like, bubble kinda just hard counters it rn

[spice veldt]

i forget which patch i did it in or if anything has changed since then, but a quietitude psyker can quell through a scab bomber's fire temporarily

[paper lily]

hmm

[spice veldt]

they'll have no toughness but it's enough to not take any health damage

[paper lily]

idk, in fire i always felt like my toughness would only go up from ults

but i never willingly sat there quelling, either

[spice veldt]

just a meme thing i did to test it out and to cross some annoying fires

[paper lily]

'so, arco, why do you use scriers on staff psyker?'

[spice veldt]

🙂

[candid dawn]

unironic scriers staff enjoyer stand up

[spice veldt]

i do run it for point economy reasons

and it's nice for bosses

[lethal lagoon]

The point of mk5 is that it has better dodge slides than mk4.

So having low mobility is kind of silly

[paper lily]

the difference is negligible in practice

between the 2 really

[upper galleon]

emperor bless those who went EP shield and brought down the winrate

[lethal lagoon]

In numbers the difference in negligible, in practice the difference is massive.

The game isn't designed for mk5 dodge slide

[upper galleon]

yee meaningful bps

[lethal lagoon]

[paper lily]

idk, i tested it out a bit between them both and there was a difference, but not in a huge way

[upper galleon]

mk4 is just ridic

[lethal lagoon]

It's your no stamina spd that outruns things that the mk4 can't.

[upper galleon]

especially when you start min maxing, getting your buffs, like uncanny strike

it adds up

[candid dawn]

the amount of times i slid off the map with high mobility weps, scriers and dodge talents can be counted on more than both hands

[lethal lagoon]

So the difference isn't "huge" but it's huge

[upper galleon]

mk4 can hit a 2 hit ko crusher BP

[candid dawn]

speedmaxxing

[paper lily]

eh, i mostly bypass no stam speed with l1 slides

[upper galleon]

yee, like, for example, flamer has fan the flames, which is a "huge" numerical blessing

but it gives nothing meaningful

[spice veldt]

the mk4 has an easy slide-> heavy tech to make use

and i doubt that their sprint speed is different

[upper galleon]

the difference between mk5 and mk4 might seem small, but it is meaningful because that is how thresholds and breakpoints work

[spice veldt]

i really do not consider a ~0.2m longer dodge on a dodge that is already ~3m that much even in terms of breakpoints

the mk 2/4 dodge is already more than enough

[upper galleon]

100%

[spice veldt]

it's funny when bugged pox gas works in your favor to bump your toughness regen to absurd levels https://streamable.com/9xmbhf

[lethal lagoon]

Right, and those are crazy on mk5

[lethal lagoon]

We were talking about speed

[shy pewter]

Wait what am I seeing here

[lethal lagoon]

at least I think we were

mk4 is obviously dumb for doing 50% more damage no reason

[spice veldt]

just my toughness bar shooting up because of pox gas giving +50% toughness regen instead of -50% toughness regen

[shy pewter]

I didn't know it did that, lol some more great coding

Time to run some toughness Regen curios on gas missions

[potent echo]

Is that bug part of the reason why toughness Regen penances are completing so quickly?

If you shout or chorus in gas the penance numbers somehow increase alot

[spice veldt]

prolly

just testing in the meatgrinder, mk4 slide->heavy and mk5 slide->l1 tech give roughly the same average speed

[lyric burrow]

were you playing purge arco are you ok

i cant see what your ult is

[spice veldt]

~6m/s using an EWMA average

[spice veldt]

scrier's 🙂

[lyric burrow]

were you penance gaming

if you werent

[spice veldt]

no i was damage farming

[lyric burrow]

hmmm

[spice veldt]

i am peak degeneracy

[lyric burrow]

theres the arco i know

all is well

i got scared when i saw you were running purge

[spice veldt]

why

what have i done to instill this fear into you

[lyric burrow]

i have never seen you run purge

not that you play psyker much

[spice veldt]

oh i run it a lot in pubs

i just don't do it in premades

[lyric burrow]

ah that would explain it

[spice veldt]

pubs don't deserve any joy of fighting hordes

my damage

[lyric burrow]

yeah thats fair

my pubs have been fucking brutal lately

[spice veldt]

very tragic

using purg instead of trauma has become very threatening

because i don't use brainburst, bursters are significantly more of a threat when teammates can't push them

[lyric burrow]

M1 pushes them at least doesnt it

although i dont trust that to be `100% consistent

[lethal lagoon]

When you wipe everything out during an event and pubs have no choice but to actually do the objectives for once

[spice veldt]

so tragic

the main reason i run TWBS zealot because i don't want to run stealth but also want to do objectives in peace

comparison of mk4 slide->heavy vs mk5 slide->l1
mk4 is mildly slower based on observation but they're close enough that it doesn't really matter
https://streamable.com/2747zp

both done with 80% mobility, if that matters

[lethal lagoon]

What's the spd mod?

[spice veldt]

movementanalyzer

[lethal lagoon]

Also we might as well be playing different games

[spice veldt]

it's somewhere in the modding discord

the default average speedometer doesn't work in that mod

so you'll have to cook up your own average

or fix it

[lethal lagoon]

[spice veldt]

i think the fix was pretty simple

[lethal lagoon]

I'll just take your word for it

[spice veldt]

i personally just used an EWMA

kill yoshi

[lyric burrow]

🙂

i would never do anything that could be regarded as nerdy in the psyk

[lethal lagoon]

[ornate hamlet]

[lyric burrow]

ok why everyone questioning me

arco didnt even have to say anything

[spice veldt]

top 10 worst lies

[lyric burrow]

your all 10

[lunar hollow]

y'roue*

[lethal lagoon]

youier

[lyric burrow]

do you just fucking sit here

and wauit

and wait

and wait

[lunar hollow]

im always wauiting

[lyric burrow]

UNTIL TYPE FUCKING YOUR

[ornate hamlet]

O.o

[spice veldt]

stan has irredeemably altered yoshi into a worse human being than he already was

[lethal lagoon]

Eye*

[lyric burrow]

stan has in fact corruptedme

i still eat normally at least

[lyric burrow]

the chart holds true

[spice veldt]

the justification exists only in your mind

[ornate hamlet]

and in there its just cope

[paper lily]

this is about what i expected

iirc while peak movespeed can exceed 5.8, 5.8 is the default 'max' so hitting that during slides is enough

[lyric burrow]

notice how everything has to be in your defense

[spice veldt]

yeah 5.88 with an 80% mobility ds with no movement speed node taken

[lyric burrow]

you can never accept a fault or an accusation

[paper lily]

the only way to get faster movespeed is to l1 or dodge boost off a ledge

[lethal lagoon]

When you get that ledge just right

[paper lily]

i legit almost kill myself cuz of that

fairly often

on like ogryn of all chars

[ornate hamlet]

then you notice that ledge leads to the abyss

[spice veldt]

i'm too embarassed to die like that so i never do risky ledge dodges

[ornate hamlet]

next your gonna say melee is to risky, you only use your staff

[lyric burrow]

🤨 🤨 🤨 🤨 🤨 🤨 🤨

[spice veldt]

be quiet yoshi

they don't need to know

[ornate hamlet]

wait oh this is an inside joke, and you yeeted off a ledge

mb

[spice veldt]

never

[lyric burrow]

arco has done no such thing

[ornate hamlet]

never

[supple sedge]

Why inside joke?

[ornate hamlet]

because their afraid of the outdoors

[supple sedge]

Oohh. Feel bad for them then

Wuz gonna laff but a don wanna laff at them musery

[potent echo]

Can you ledge dodge off of railings?

I can only do it off of tables reliably

This one? @spice veldt

[paper lily]

u can do it on ramps

if the directional impulse is high enough

[supple sedge]

Psykers are B-hop-ing?

[paper lily]

ogryns too :D

[supple sedge]

[potent echo]

I noticed that if you mantle something with high enough speed you start floating upwards more

[paper lily]

all character can movetech in some way

[paper lily]

#psyker-class message

knife is one of the better one for ogryn

with the combat knife i have legit diag'd

er ow term my bad

basically used it as a car ramp up

off of any upwards ramp

[potent echo]

Oh lord the Q cancelling

Is that macro'd

[paper lily]

nah my kb has built in key up key down as separate inputs

i guess u would count it as a macro but they're technically 2 keystrokes

[lethal lagoon]

You cancel harder than old-washed up artists trying to go on tour

[potent echo]

What switches are those

Or is that software side

[paper lily]

it's a wooting keyboard

they're analogue switches, so i can also emulate console movement if i want

[lethal lagoon]

Macroing animation cancels is kinda cringe, I apperciate the labor

[potent echo]

Analogue switches

[paper lily]

too old for free carpal tunnel

i have an ancient yt video for when i used to go hard on the carpal tunnel shit

[lethal lagoon]

That's pretty much why I stopped playing zealot and why I can't play Ogryn as much

I hold the mouse way too hard when I spam heavies on Ogryn

[paper lily]

i feel like you can fall asleep at the wheel on ogryn ngl

[lethal lagoon]

I think i'll just macro the heavies for Ogryn

[paper lily]

just use the mod

[lethal lagoon]

I miss long sessions on the big guy

[paper lily]

esp if u run knife as well, there's a mod called keep swinging i think

[lethal lagoon]

Can it autofire heavies?

[paper lily]

to help with that particular issue

yeah i think so

there was a post on reddit today about how more damage isn't good or some shit

and then a slew of people just nodding their head like yep

[lethal lagoon]

[paper lily]

not sure when people started dmg shaming

but i'm pretty sure more dmg is more betterer

[lethal lagoon]

It's always the bubble smiters that are the worst about it

I just feel bad for them

[paper lily]

i genuinely don't care about your numbers

at ALL, as long as i don't have to scrape your corpse off the floor every 5 seconds

you did 50k dmg to my 500k? literally don't care if u stayed with the team and didn't just eat every disable in the game

[lethal lagoon]

I had a match recently where it was literally those numbers(80k) and I didn't even notice cause the guy never got trapped or downed or anything.

That's honestly so rare

[paper lily]

i'm legit happy, pick up medkits ammo box script whatever

just don't die and get thru the map

as long as we're not dragging ass it's chill

[spice veldt]

ye

[ornate hamlet]

when builds exist where you just look one direction and smite shriek everything to death or spam plasma at it or void, of course some one is gonna not be able to kill anything and have low dmg, dmg shaming is dumb

[paper lily]

the author of this post then goes on to say that dmg taken and medstations used matters more

to me those are again completely arbitrary stats, so it just sounds like he's butthurt

i've seen ogryns take like 2.5k dmg across a map and not even go down, so it's silly to assume those stats really matter

it's just if they're an active detriment to your team that matters

[dusky crag]

Look at this. I just want to appreciate it before Hadron fucks it

[ornate hamlet]

thats why i say plasteel, though its way more common now to see people picking it up

[ornate hamlet]

oh hadron is gonna ruin you

[paper lily]

the only stat scoreboard doesn't track is also the most important one

which is overall winrate

[paper lily]

oh nyo

[urban sandal]

idk if that's really very indicative of skill either though since good players in auric maelstroms will likely lose a lot more than an average player that only does malice

[supple sedge]

[paper lily]

yea i mean obviously you would account for difficulty

[potent echo]

You combine damage stats with weapon loadout

That's how you get maximum shaming

[paper lily]

lacerate knife, -50 dkp

[ornate hamlet]

plasma vet doing bottom dmg

[potent echo]

Like my axe/shotgun can out damage powersword plasma shout

[paper lily]

i'm actually happy to look at peoples build when i get outdamaged cuz it's so fucking rare

[ornate hamlet]

well who is using the plasma, little timmy or johnny darktide

[potent echo]

Yea exactly that's how you use the scoreboard to see if people are balling or not

[paper lily]

every player who has named themselves john darktide has been the epitome of mediocrity

[potent echo]

Like smite EP vent

[paper lily]

at least in my lobbies

[potent echo]

Top melee lesser and ranged lesser kills and damage

[paper lily]

nah ep smite vent is just top everything

[ornate hamlet]

their all wannabes of the true johnny darktide

[potent echo]

Hard to top melee elite

[paper lily]

my smite psyker was dominating every stat in pretty much every game i played

except boss dmg

fuck boss dmg

[potent echo]

That's true depends on whether you have some plasma peesword gamer in your lobby too

Boss damage lmao

[lethal lagoon]

"Smite does no damage"
Me attacking the whole map all at once.

[potent echo]

My surge is so cope vs bosses

[lethal lagoon]

[paper lily]

i feel like i'm doing air vs bosses w surge

[potent echo]

Usually second lowest 😔

[paper lily]

then i look at how much i did and i'm always top

[potent echo]

That's just sad

[paper lily]

and i'm just annoyed that no one could be arsed to fucking shoot it

[lethal lagoon]

I'm usually first or second with surge on the boss, it's just easy braindead boss damage

[paper lily]

cuz that shit takes forever to whittle the boss down

[potent echo]

If surge is topping boss damage you guy's lobby's are wack af

[paper lily]

that's my average lobby

my bad lobbies are like NO ONE shooting the boss except me

[ornate hamlet]

unless i got a particularly happy zealot im usually doing most or close to most boss dmg, but i usually go and stab it with a deimos

[paper lily]

the more i use mk6 haymaker knife the more i like it on zealot

[ornate hamlet]

i rarely use the knives, thats the 1 that hits 2 ppl on heavies right

[paper lily]

can hit up to 6 i think

the knives are all surpassed by other weapons in every category except speed

[ornate hamlet]

i much prefered that one over the 3

[paper lily]

but the mk6 shores up the 3's weakness which is horde dmg

[lethal lagoon]

Unless there's someone speced into boss damage, like a thammer, that's the standards for auric t5s/mael

[paper lily]

pretty sure i put unyielding on my surge cuz i was getting fucking sick of bulwarks taking like 4 secondaries

[lethal lagoon]

I have carpace unyielding on my EP smite surge

[ornate hamlet]

hmmmmm and you run that with smite. gunners must be a slog

not a problem

but slow

[lethal lagoon]

Sorry I can't hear you over the buzzing of smite

[ornate hamlet]

ok ill talk to you in roughly 10 seconds when your finished smiting those gunners to death

[lethal lagoon]

8 seconds to kill 50+ ragers

[ornate hamlet]

and the rest of the map

[lethal lagoon]

[ornate hamlet]

yeah roughly 10 seconds

i wasnt wrong

[cosmic sigil]

lmb surge dd chad?

[lethal lagoon]

For gunners it's probably like 5-6 seconds

[ornate hamlet]

damn im half right

[lethal lagoon]

LMB does nothing to bosses

[cosmic sigil]

with enough time, it will do something

tickle probably

[lethal lagoon]

I mean so will block pushing with force sword

[ornate hamlet]

anything to not use melee huh

[cosmic sigil]

based uncanny stacker

[ornate hamlet]

using the special to get 4 stacks of uncanny

[lethal lagoon]

I don't think that's how that works.

[ornate hamlet]

though the special is more likely to kill you

[lethal lagoon]

[ornate hamlet]

ahhh

[lethal lagoon]

[lethal lagoon]

Wait, without warp charges, does 25% flak even get you the breakpoint on gunners?

[ornate hamlet]

idk

[paper lily]

at high peril i think it does

[ornate hamlet]

i hate smite to much so when i run surge its usually with assail, so i usually kill them with assail

[lethal lagoon]

At least use BB so you can get the aura

[paper lily]

i swear that aura is overvalued

[ornate hamlet]

what, psykenetics with skriers isnt doing me much

i like skriers

[paper lily]

though it's hard to compare efficiency considering it's an aura

[ornate hamlet]

its amazing 5% cd on special kill

nuts

i thinks its also elites

[paper lily]

it is

i just value it less than a talented assail

[ornate hamlet]

when im running around killing things with a sword the last thing i want to deal with is gunners, and assail deletes them

[lethal lagoon]

The harder things are, the more the aura does

It's kinda of like smite shriek in that sense

[ornate hamlet]

yeah

[paper lily]

ur not wrong but idk, i definitely don't miss it on my builds

[ornate hamlet]

neither to i but its more the missed team value

for some reason they made it effect teammates

[paper lily]

yea but teammates also have their own cd reducing talents, which are all basically universally taken on every build

[ornate hamlet]

yeah so stack them all together

shout vet with no cd

[paper lily]

yea if i could convince my prestige 1 vet to actually shout...

[ornate hamlet]

true their stupid

but some arnt lil timmy

some press f

so its a stupid strong talent

i still wont build around it though, my teammates can go do their own thing

[paper lily]

that aura has weird synergy with wc as well

like sometimes i wanna just sit on my charges

[ornate hamlet]

yet with a cd build your also insitivised to spam

[paper lily]

it's counterintuitive, much like cdr on curios

[ornate hamlet]

love how the concept of reward you no matter what turns into damned if you do damned if you dont

[rich jolt]

Anyone else feel like toxbombers are overtuned atm?

[ornate hamlet]

no buff them

[paper lily]

no they need buffed

[rich jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-drop-gif-1982649100088909979

[paper lily]

they're not even as strong as they're supposed to be rn according to arco

[rich jolt]

Bro they are beating my ass

[paper lily]

they give you 50% toughness regen

[ornate hamlet]

we have a phrase for that here

[spice veldt]

tox bombers are basically a toughness and toughness regen check

[rich jolt]

Its NOT a skill issue

[spice veldt]

and even then we are on easy mode currently yeah

[rich jolt]

I am VERY good at the game

[ornate hamlet]

[paper lily]

sounds like a skill issue....

[spice veldt]

basically just attempt to snipe bombers the moment you hear them

[spice veldt]

or dive the enemy and kill those fuckers as soon as possible

[paper lily]

it can def be hard to find em

they hide around like 5 more corners than regular bombers

[spice veldt]

p much

[rich jolt]

I just cant see shit and the clouds are so big. I always get spread off from my team getting out of them

[spice veldt]

i guess their longer cooldown makes them run around more or whatever

[ornate hamlet]

yeah just kill the bomber, and be ready to move but they do very little dmg

[paper lily]

just fight in them unless there's other serious threats

[spice veldt]

i sometimes have to go out of my way to go deep and kill them

[paper lily]

just sucks to get pinned with a bulwark wall into either bomber

[ornate hamlet]

thats when its the most fun, kinetic deflection surrounded by ragers

[rich jolt]

Im fine with damage being tripled even i just wish the clouds werent so big

[paper lily]

the dmg being tripled would be insane lmao

[ornate hamlet]

nah keep them big force movement, no more door camping

[paper lily]

i actually really like that the clouds are massive

that's their point, get out of your hidey hole

[spice veldt]

the scab bomber fills the role of "more damage and less radius"

the tox bomber does have some more advantages in its favor

e.g., reducing visibility more, disabling highlights

[rich jolt]

I mean usually im never even standing still. Its just that i dont know whats happening in them. I feel like they need to be smaller or easier to see through

[ornate hamlet]

look if your able to camp in a doorway for the end event, tox bomber needs a buff

[paper lily]

it's also quite a bit more evasive

[ornate hamlet]

tox bombers biggest problem when it comes to killing them is how quiet they are

other than that, they stand out

[paper lily]

they never shut the fuck up in my games

[ornate hamlet]

huh

[paper lily]

they're constantly talking shit

[ornate hamlet]

audio must be bugged

typical

i never hear them

well sometimes

[rich jolt]

I mean if they were louder and easier to find thatd be alright too. Last mission i had like twenty spawn through out it and my team refused to kill them

[paper lily]

u probably hear the ring of the nade pull but they're just so much farther than bombers

[ornate hamlet]

so shoot them

your team sucks you dont have to

[dusky crag]

"Embrace nurgles truth" I get it man

[rich jolt]

I CANT SHOOT EVERYTHING😭

[ornate hamlet]

sure you can

and if you run out of bullets

stab

really not much else to do in this game

[rich jolt]

I dont have enough hours to pick up my entire teams slack yet unfortunately

[ornate hamlet]

thats rough, though you dont need hours you need to just get confident pick up a sword and get confortable carrying

its not that hard

expecially when most spawns are broken

the ai director isnt even at his full power

[spice veldt]

i do think that bombers can be very bullshit in that they throw nades from out of your LoS
realistic, but not quite something that I enjoy fighting against on the chasm assassination midevent as bombers continuously chuck grenades from a position that you can't reach or shoot

[paper lily]

most people won't relent the holdout area and walk back

or walk forward

i've gone back like 20% of the level just to draw em into a corridor or something

[rich jolt]

If they buff them i just hope they reduce there spawn rate because i had so many earlier today. Every room had pox gas in it

I will have a heart attack at this rate

[paper lily]

ur playing psyker?

[rich jolt]

Yes?

[paper lily]

just use bubble

[rich jolt]

This psyker chat ive been playing him all day

[paper lily]

idk people play loads of diff shit

[quartz current]

does sciers gaze penance have to be elites or can it be normal mobs as well?

[quartz barn]

Can be anything

[quartz current]

thank you

[rich jolt]

I only have grey weapons on my bubble loudout rn. Was farming for plasteel. Corruption resist probably affects gas so ill go pick that up.

Got double grolls for it🙏

[ornate hamlet]

i think i use the same sword on every load out

unless its for a very gimmicky loadout that just completely lacks something

yeah its just the deimos