Time to pokey pokey.
#psyker-class
devout belfry
lethal lagoon
primal plume
What else is going on to not have getting the vet off the floor a priority?
To me it sounds like you making excuses to not help your team is main character syndrome
cinder moon
i have godroll of each dueling sword, they're all usable in damn+ with the right complementary build, but ds4 will always reign supreme for dealing with crushers etc
lethal lagoon
Well no, when I run smite I'm in 1st place damage by far.
primal plume
Well no, when I run smite I'm in 1st place damage by far.
Brings up irrelevant damage numbers
Main character syndrome
devout belfry
I hate smite. Seems wonky lately.
lethal lagoon
So you do no damage and then blame your team for failure?
primal plume
"I cant help anyone Im too busy carrying"
lethal lagoon
I mean... cool.
upper galleon
yea cause it's a damage tool
lethal lagoon
And no, I pretty much always have the most revives.
pearl lion
Man I love smite
upper galleon
stop being the mercy main darktide equivalent, embrace soulblaze EP smite
lethal lagoon
EP smite did not need a buff, but it's pretty hilarious
devout belfry
Smite has poo dmg and takes forever to stun the ogryns ocasionally.
pearl lion
I was kinda meh towards it, but I think its going to be my primary build even when im not doing penances
upper galleon
why CC a horde with your weak shield build, when you can instead melt a mixed horde so fast your killfeed looks bugged
primal plume
yea cause it's a damage tool
im playing the game now. Its a support tool first
pearl lion
Its like having unlimited stun grenades
lethal lagoon
EP smite -Flaming shriek -> ep smite will kill a rager.
upper galleon
Smite has poo dmg and takes forever to stun the ogryns ocasionally.
not anymore with EP
upper galleon
but yea the ogryn stun
devout belfry
not anymore with EP
EP?
upper galleon
is just cause they made all ogryns and monstros more stable, they were getting bullied way too easily
pearl lion
Empowered psionics
devout belfry
Ah, even with it up it's killing so slow and randomly takes a bit to stun the chonker enemies.
But I think the latter is a bug.
upper galleon
well tbf, smite EP and Smite Warp Charges was fine for damage if you took the soulblaze talents to compensate, and soulblaze vent
lethal lagoon
Ah, even with it up it's killing so slow and randomly takes a bit to stun the ch...
One use of EP smite and Flaming shriek will literally kill almost all elites, ragers included.
upper galleon
it's probably some of the best horde clear in the game
devout belfry
Are you fully charging smite then holding it until they die?
upper galleon
EP smite had high damage before the buff, just too many smite bubble users
smite bubble warp charges so i can bubble for my team more uwu
devout belfry
Can you shriek without interrupting it?
upper galleon
Are you fully charging smite then holding it until they die?
fully charged, shriek doesn't interrupt unless you are like, at 98 or somethign whatever the safety point is
lethal lagoon
Also, without warp charges, EP smite is pretty fast, it's not as long as you think.
upper galleon
it's actually can get pretty long
upper galleon
you get the quell on kill, you get the cdr on elite kill and the cdr aura (elite aura is also usuable)
lethal lagoon
upper galleon
and you get the perfect chains
i got 4 shrieks in a row
i stopped smiting because there were no more enemies, not cause i hit 99%
lethal lagoon
And then you do that little side dodge while smiting, pushing your team forward.
Such fast games sometimes
I really try not to use EP smite too often, this game just isn't built to handle it.
It's a mistake of an ability
upper galleon
medic from tf2 ruined some people's mindsets i swear
then it's mercy, then it's just this weird thing where people would rather be pure support than do anything for themselves
lethal lagoon
medic from tf2 ruined some people's mindsets i swear
Steam dicussion forums are wild
People are as racist as they are bad at games on there
upper galleon
i remember the people begging for a healer class in darktide like that wouldn't instantly fuck up the balance 10x worse than pre nerf survivalist
upper galleon
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1361210/discussions/0/3935643263194411095/
i can't handle steam discussions
i can barely handle redditors
lethal lagoon
I read them sometimes cause they are funny
upper galleon
sometiems i'm scrolling through the cute animals on reddit then I get hit with the worst darktide takes imaginable
lethal lagoon
"Blaze Trauma is literally the worst psyker staff"
upper galleon
god "you can carry not in damage but in skill"
lethal lagoon
upper galleon
SHIELDGRYNS CAN DO 800k+ damage stop coping just cause you use the weapon poorly
emperor save my eyes
lethal lagoon
I was reminded about this post, that's why I was arguing earlier lmao
upper galleon
like i'm not saying support abilities can't be useful, they can
but it's usually when a player is USING their ability to enable their own damage, and that's why I personally hate chorus
lethal lagoon
Only time I've lost on the scoreboard has been to someone who's also a better team player.
Like it's a horde game
They are connected
upper galleon
it simply kills the dps class to 0 dps for the channel, and if you abuse crit cdr, sure you make the heretics do the heathen jiggle but you do 0 dps yourself during it
it's such bad design
it should be like, an aura buff you turn on, have it pulse way slower but you can actually kill things during it
lethal lagoon
it should be like, an aura buff you turn on, have it pulse way slower but you ca...
Post nerf, that's actually a good idea.
The toughness gen might be a little much then
Esp with CDR recovery zealot has
upper galleon
oh yea
crit cdr needs to die in a hole
i hate that crit is so stupidly easy on zealot that you can run any weapon with it cause lmao free 55% crit chance from talent tree
momentum deserved the nerf and it's still the most reliable option but it shouldn't ahve been nerfed while that left side abomination was still there
cosmic sigil
god "you can carry not in damage but in skill"
I have runs where I do not top DMG but I was constantly reviving / rescuing people, killing disablers / elites. Total DMG is not a very good metric tbh
upper galleon
I have runs where I do not top DMG but I was constantly reviving / rescuing peop...
top damaging sure
but you shouldn't be bottom damage significantly less than everyone else
see it's like, twisted words, it's not that you aren't top damage, only one person can be anyways, sometimes I get top sometimes i'm lower
very rarely am I bottom damage BUT
i'm not far behind the person ahead of me
like, 30k gap at most
but if your team is between 400k-800k, and you are doing 150k, there is an issue that won't be made up by you just doing the things you mentioned above
lethal lagoon
Out of all the backseating, toxic players, yelling on mic, I have yet to encounter a toxic player who wasn't last on the scoreboard.
upper galleon
well, besides killing specials/elites those add up quick
cosmic sigil
Ah yeah is what you mean
upper galleon
Out of all the backseating, toxic players, yelling on mic, I have yet to encount...
me neither lmao
cosmic sigil
If I am last I am not that far behind. And with mostly DMG concentrated on bosses / elites / specials
upper galleon
i remember, I asked a fellow zealot why his hammer didn't do a lot of damage, wasn't bad mouthing, just saw him swing and hit and it barely chipped the boss
he slur'd me and said not to question his build and I was trash and not killing everything
i just started to read his and mine damage and kills
he ragequit
lethal lagoon
cough cough you can get banned for that cough cough
upper galleon
him and his skullcrusher thunderous hammer
upper galleon
*cough cough* you can get banned for that *cough cough*
oh i was too busy laughing my ass off to care to report him, but I do have the screenshots (name blurred out of course) wayyyyy back in zealot chat
lethal lagoon
I meant you
Well also him for the slur
But using a mod to shame someone is bannable as far as I am aware
upper galleon
why would I get banned
lethal lagoon
The main rule of fatshark is that mods don't negatively impact other players
I don't know how hard they enforce it though
upper galleon
if you use it as harassment yes, if you use it in response to a statement, nah
upper galleon
he threw the stone I didn't have a glass house
people have been banned, we had a person in discord complaining why he was banned ingame,
lethal lagoon
Oh, that's good to hear, as long it was a good reason lmao
upper galleon
also I believe if you kept using the blacklisted mods you can get banned
but the list of blacklisted mods is only a handful and most are fixed so they can't use the exploits anymore
The one that let you spam voicelines in the mourningstar and the one that rapidly swapped your weapon and swung for you, letting you attack 5 times a second
lethal lagoon
The one that let you spam voicelines in the mourningstar and the one that rapidl...
People who did the second one manually are wild childs
I pray for their wrists
upper galleon
People who did the second one manually are wild childs
nah it's fixed now
lethal lagoon
Last I checked you could still spam the l1 of a weapon super fast
Animation canceling for surge too
I haven't checked in a couple months though
I hate doing that stuff, cause it will get fixed, eventually, and then my nice tool is gone.
So I never really use it.
cosmic sigil
The one that let you spam voicelines in the mourningstar and the one that rapidl...
let me vacuum capsule 😦
wet belfry
I think ive reached the limit of possible FPS for now.
The resolution could probably be decreased
557 fps
narrow herald
does toughness regen blessing only regen in coherency?
lethal lagoon
I assume you mean perk on curio
narrow herald
so it doesn't actually make u synergies with the bubble?
lethal lagoon
No
narrow herald
or the venting of your peril
lethal lagoon
Nein
narrow herald
wow sadge
lethal lagoon
Getting more toughness would though, cause it is % based.
Toughness regen is pretty good though, esp if you are always around teammates.
Or if you don't take a lot of toughness related talents on the skill tree
narrow herald
ussually by default i go stam/health/tough on vet and zealot
lethal lagoon
Stam is nice on psyker cause of the insane regen rate.
Lots of people rough 2-3 toughness curios cause Psyker has some pretty nice toughness regen options
narrow herald
but I have seen very different cuirio priority depending on the build
lethal lagoon
Uhhh, do you mean "builds" you find online?
A high percentage of those are complete shit
lethal lagoon
Ah ok
narrow herald
im reading the steam guide:
21.2 Curio Perks
Tier list:
S Toughness Regeneration Speed
A Sniper Resistance (especially if no health),
Grim Resistance (only for running grims, no health),
Toughness,
HP
B Gunner resistance
C Stamina Regeneration,
Ordo dockets (for farming),
Flamer Resistance,
Bomber Resistance
Garbage Corruption Resistance, Mutant Resistance,
Hound Resistance, Experience
cinder moon
emperor just gave me this
urban sandal
damn
lethal lagoon
Cooldown reduc is really good atm
cinder moon
i've always liked it
lethal lagoon
Making sure you can survive 2 sniper shots is nice.
Everyhing else is really personal preference.
That said, 3 x 5% toughness is basically a 4th curio
narrow herald
but the guide says the best stat is toughness regen because it shortens the delay
urban sandal
im reading the steam guide:
21.2 Curio Perks
Tier list:
S Toughness Regener...
In general I'd personally swap grim res and corruption res on that list especially since tox gas is a lot more common now and corruption res covers grims anyway
lethal lagoon
Toughness regen is a contentious subject 
I ran 90 for a long time and quite liked it.
But some psyker builds just have so much toughness regen from talents it's a little too extra
long osprey
I’m running a disrupt destiny with trauma blaze staff and it’s pretty good tbh
Having a base 30% crit chance helps ton
brave fiber
dd and gunker is low key uber busted
wet belfry
Apparently putting the lowest settings possible in the game made me consume more wattage then actually having the highest.
Mainly because the CPU begins to work itself hard.
ornate hamlet
Is maelstrom survivor carryable you think?
wet belfry
Is maelstrom survivor carryable you think?
Just depends on how far you are willing to go in running the most op builds, with unorthodox strageties.
I did my maelstrom survivor for the most part solo.
ornate hamlet
Just trying to figure out how credible one is for having it for skill
lethal lagoon
Just trying to figure out how credible one is for having it for skill
Carryable as in could a random pub queue 5 times and get it?
Despite being bad?
I don't see how.
Carryable as in having 3 friends pull your ass through it? I guess. But its so easy to die to random shit when you are bad at the game.
I feel like it's a good measure of skill, it'd be really hard to be bad at the game and get it.
wet belfry
I could probably get someone the penance in an hour.
Its just going to be really boring.
lethal lagoon
Oh it works with late invites?
lethal lagoon
I mean that would still be like 3 hours
lethal lagoon
Oh, speedrun strats, yeah.
wet belfry
The likelyhood of someone doing this anyways for the penance is basically nonexistant
tough cipher
I believe i read it doesnt count if they join late but not sure?
plucky flax
Why flak?
plucky flax
I like carapace. Unyielding is not bad too if you melee monsters.
white river
I honestly just go to the gameslantern builds and look at what people have on theirs
cinder moon
which do i keep for blazing trauma shenanigans (right one just has transfer because i was trying to game consecration)
plucky flax
I heard someone said the #1 build on there is really weird.
white river
really? which build is it?
plucky flax
Not sure just the #1 overall build for psyker or whatever. Tell me what weapons/blitz/ability you want to play and I can give suggestion.
lethal lagoon
I heard someone said the #1 build on there is really weird.
It's a voidstrike without true aim
lethal lagoon
I forgot about that, I just corrected my memories to nexus flurry
The reality was too harsh
lethal lagoon
which do i keep for blazing trauma shenanigans (right one just has transfer beca...
Left, ranged damage to Crit chance or Flak
Sustained to blazing
white river
Not sure just the #1 overall build for psyker or whatever. Tell me what weapons/...
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a5bb8a6-6593-4e77-8f40-a4cbc6e2bb70/psyker-assail-crit-build-t5-auric
running this build right now
plucky flax
It's okay a bit heavy up top.
brave fiber
for surge voidstrike id recommend something like this, taking ability cdr on curios. a lot of the top nodes arent necessary if you have good peril management, + perilous combustion isnt the greatest for dmg
plucky flax
Do you need battle meditation?
cosmic sigil
cosmic sigil
those 3 nodes have less value than the one you did not take
cosmic sigil
for surge voidstrike id recommend something like this, taking ability cdr on cur...
hmm assail is wasted here with surge voidstrike, i would go smite instead and well, surg void benefits from dd the most
brave fiber
hmm assail is wasted here with surge voidstrike, i would go smite instead and we...
i figured he wanted to keep assail
cosmic sigil
Also if you use assail with tru aim take ee.
also, assail + void mhhh
brave fiber
if not this is the optimal path
cosmic sigil
consider the the time you spent assailing is time you're not spending voiding
plucky flax
And spreaded horde.
cosmic sigil
Void is so slow at taking out smol shooters.
it's harder in sedition for sure
in t5 you get group of shooters you know
plucky flax
cosmic sigil
i dislike the non aiming part of lmb assail
brave fiber
also psa anyone who is even thinking of trying gunker with scriers + dd please do im begging you its fantastic
cosmic sigil
i am trying sg + warp charges atm
cosmic sigil
well it benefits a lot of finesse weapon fore sure
brave fiber
it is just straight up better than warp charges for gunker
cosmic sigil
but being at constant 4 or 6 warp charges + getting sg back quickly is tempting
brave fiber
but being at constant 4 or 6 warp charges + getting sg back quickly is tempting
consider warp charges give max +24% dmg for your gun. at max dd stacks (which is not hard at all to obtain or even to keep) you get: 15% dmg, 30% crit dmg, 37.5% weakspot dmg, all of which are multiplicative bonuses, not additive. its crazy.
and thats not even factoring
that killing marked enemies also replenishes toughness, quells peril, and gives move speed
ionic sorrel
It's a blast.
brave fiber
using columnus v with dd + scriers legitimately feels like i toggled a damage hack
brave fiber
consider warp charges give max +24% dmg for your gun. at max dd stacks (which is...
also this shit makes ds4 the most broken melee in the game
2 tapping crushers and maulers while also being really good horde clear
cosmic sigil
note that i have not touched dd once with a gun since the patch
potent echo
Void is so slow at taking out smol shooters.
Same assail void is very safe for yoloing everywhere
You can almost never be out of position
crystal olive
For venting shriek what's the better ability modifier, Creeping Flames or Warp Rupture?
potent echo
Creeping flames no contest
If you press it at 85% peril you will inflict 6 soulblaze stacks
That is enough to kill all shooters
brave fiber
also taking creeping flames with warp charges lets you basically light the entire level on fire
from how often you can use it
crystal olive
also taking creeping flames with warp charges lets you basically light the entir...
Where abouts is warp charges?
brave fiber
Where abouts is warp charges?
this keystone
brave fiber
empowered psionics is good for focusing on blitzes, however if you want to max the strength of your staffs always use warp charges
and if you run gun psyker disrupt destiny is op
crystal olive
And that's why I went with what I did. This build I'm talking about is support psyker with smite
cinder moon
EP is tailor made for smite
i do this for smite with a surge staff and deflector illisi
it's wildly safe, you can handle most threats on your own, and it's great for support
crystal olive
Although I'm still not 100% sure which is better, Bio-Lodestone or Overpowering Souls for EP
cinder moon
i use this build in auric maelstrom with little issue
plucky flax
Bruh 1000 is a lot. 
brave fiber
I can’t imagine not taking warp charges with surge, I already feel like surge does so little damage compared to other options
cinder moon
nexus/flurry surge does fine on its own
crystal olive
The need an Edit mode for the talent tree so we don't need to delete half the tree to change one ability
potent echo
Warp charges is mainly to spam more creeping flames
If you wanted a flat damage buff DD is there to give 1% per stack and last pretty long, it costs less to invest in DD than warp
brave fiber
Thing about warp charges is that you get some damage as well as cdr and peril reduction
It’s a good middle ground
and with the surge staff being as peril hungry as it is the peril reduction and shriek spam is welcome
potent echo
Vent speed also helps surge more
I just don't feel like edging when I play surge strangely
I rather quell more then get more casts
plucky flax
Blitz cancel surge meme let's go
potent echo
Yea probably that
Blitz cancel swap back quell just doesn't do it for me
And I rather have some peril left over to chuck assails
plucky flax
Surge assail 
potent echo
It's my only EP build lol
hardy delta
Bruh 1000 is a lot. <a:nooooo:971102259490476083>
god bless auric and high int
potent echo
Surge is there for fun
plucky flax
god bless auric and high int
I got 65 in about 25 mins ish in a maelstrom. And that's with me trying hard for it.
So it'd still require at least 10 games easily.
Maybe I need to wait for muties and hounds train modifier. That is if ppl don't kill them from range.
potent echo
20% cdr modifier 
plucky flax
Surprisingly I got like 23 rock kills in 1 round. And it only require 75.
So shouldn't take too much longer.
lethal lagoon
Bruh 1000 is a lot. <a:nooooo:971102259490476083>
I've noticed the worse the ability the longer the penance
Did they use some sort of metrics of over/under used abilities to make these penances?
crystal olive
worth building up or is the first target too low?
plucky flax
I've noticed the worse the ability the longer the penance
I reckon they'll reduce a lot of these.
lethal lagoon
worth building up or is the first target too low?
Ob is useless
plucky flax
The og warp explosion killing 5 elites(?) Back in the day xd
brave fiber
worth building up or is the first target too low?
I’d avoid the obscurus sword In general but if you like it the stats aren’t a deal breaker
potent echo
At least it used to do real damage
crystal olive
which force sword do you recommend?
brave fiber
Illisi or Deimos
lethal lagoon
What do you want to use it for?
brave fiber
Both are great
Deimos has a great m1 poke and heavy 2 poke, really great burst dmg, while illisi has powerful heavy sweeps and the special buffs them pretty well for horde clearing
crystal olive
essentially as a panic button in case I get caught off guard in close quarters.
potent echo
Illisi would fit that well
lethal lagoon
Illsi
You can just spam lights or heavies. Don't need to use special unless you want to stun a rager or have room to mow the lawn.
brave fiber
I’d say illisi is good to spam but Deimos spam does better against mixed hordes
crystal olive
are earned blessings shared between the force swords?
brave fiber
Yes
crystal olive
and what're the dumpstats for the Illisi?
brave fiber
and what're the dumpstats for the Illisi?
Warp res/mobility preferably
brave fiber
Slaughterer is fantastic, the second option is up to you
Deflector is good for defense
Bloodthirsty is op for special spam
Uncanny/shred aren’t bad options at all either
brave fiber
🧱
crystal olive
cinder moon
i took all of hadron's bad hadron RNG for psykers this week
fucking 200+ trauma staves before i got nexus 4
she kept on giving me run n gun
potent echo
i feel like
brave fiber
thank you for your sacrifice, I rolled a perfect Columnus earlier today on accident lmao
potent echo
crafting is seeded to the time of day
so if you roll at the same time its gonna give you to same thing
cinder moon
i think there is some kind of rng seed for blessings
i generally try not to roll a ton of anything at once because of bad luck like what i went through with traumas this past week
brave fiber
i think there is some kind of rng seed for blessings
The desire sensor is real
cinder moon
fr. once i have all the t3/4 blessings for a weapon and just want a better one, i rarely have to roll a bunch to get something with good base stats
brave fiber
Genuinely I have never attempted to go out of my way to roll for one specific thing, I just take what the game gives me and roll with it, and I’ve gotten so many amazingly rolled weapons I never asked for
BUT
The one time
I want to get uncanny 4 on my mk3 zealot knife
It takes me
5 months
cinder moon
i've largely been set with my weapons on all classes, i got real lucky with most of my favorite weapons on psyker and have god rolls for most of them
but i wanted to try out blazing trauma
brave fiber
Melk handed this to me on a silver platter one day
Never even considered trying blaze trauma till then
cinder moon
brave fiber
No rolling required
lethal lagoon
Melk handed this to me on a silver platter one day
Only tier 3 blazing spirit? Weak
I love hearing stories of people blowing resources searching for tier 4 lmao
valid ridge
Well got the resources might as well use them on something.
azure rock
Can I get soulblaze as a lowbie?
lethal lagoon
Well got the resources might as well use them on something.
(there's no tier 4)
(on trauma)
valid ridge
Always check the gameslantern page ye
Also useful for figuring out tier 2 blessings that you can mostly only get from brunt.
lethal lagoon
There is a tier 4 on force sword, so it's a bait and switch
rigid sky
Can I get soulblaze as a lowbie?
Purgatus, creeping Flames and perilous combustion are all easily accessible earlyish
lethal lagoon
Keep in mind all staves are pretty dookie early level
Unlike guns or swords, their basic functions rely on stats
Their speed, aoe, range, etc.
valid ridge
Staves also synergize way better with talents.
rigid sky
Trauma can do soulblaze too with the right blessings but trying to set that up this early is madness
lethal lagoon
Using Trauma early is madness.
valid ridge
Leveling up a psyker as the 4th class I'm leveling and the early levels are a snoozefest.
lethal lagoon
I don't know what fatshark was thinking making that the first staff unlock
It's like 50% peril usage for 0 damage
rigid sky
Other blazing spirit weapons exist, but they are not worth it ever.
valid ridge
I get to BB two specials every now and then when my screech is off cooldown.
rigid sky
I don't know what fatshark was thinking making that the first staff unlock
That nearly put me off the class
valid ridge
If some level 16 vet with a bolter doesn't get them first.
Malice and below seems to be full of bolter vets
lethal lagoon
Considering psyker is the most popular class, I wonder if psyker would be 50% the playerbase if the starting part wasn't so shit
rigid sky
I get to BB two specials every now and then when my screech is off cooldown.
Remember to quell to 97% and you can BB again
Or swap to another blitz like Assail for now
valid ridge
So I can safely charge it to 100% and let em rip?
lethal lagoon
The very first time I leveled psyker, back in the beta, I literally just spammed BB and did nothing else.
Yeah, if you start from 97, BB is safe
rigid sky
So I can safely charge it to 100% and let em rip?
Yep. It's safer than it looks
lethal lagoon
Staves you don't want to unleash at 100%
azure rock
BB?
valid ridge
Assail and smite both look very boring. At least with BB I can look for cool targets to get soulblaze off and delete crushers.
lethal lagoon
It used to be called Brain Burst
Now it's Brain Rupture
But that's dumb and I refuse to use that name
rigid sky
When you have Shriek ready, play around and see what you can get away with
lethal lagoon
valid ridge
Working towards shriek.
rigid sky
Assail and smite both look very boring. At least with BB I can look for cool tar...
Assail isn't boring lol
Smite is pointless at low difficulties though
valid ridge
Loving being able to stagger ragers with basic forceswords tho
Just juggling 4 of them.
lethal lagoon
Smite is pointless at low difficulties though
Cap. Look at my lvl 1 run using smite. We destroyed.
I Only used smite the whole round
valid ridge
Kek
rigid sky
Cap. Look at my lvl 1 run using smite. We destroyed.
I'm sure you did. You probably could have done similar running around with something shit like a tac axe paired with an autopistol though lol
azure rock
I'd like to find a build that's only smite
lethal lagoon
I'm sure you did. You probably could have done similar running around with somet...
(The joke is that lvl 1 doesn't have smite and I literally did nothing but block and dodge the whole game because I'm named OnlySmites)
azure rock
I loved the Chain Lightning Sorc in SWTOR
rigid sky
I'd like to find a build that's only smite
Smite and Surge is a solid build
Chain lightning CC, single target lightning to kill shit
valid ridge
A lot of people combo it ye.
rigid sky
Take Shriek and Creeping Flames too
valid ridge
Why think. Just zap
plucky flax
Cap. Look at my lvl 1 run using smite. We destroyed.
Rip derlin now its traxis seven eleven
lethal lagoon
Rip derlin now its traxis seven eleven
plucky flax
I wanted to name traxis something something but it's too long.
upper sun
loose cannons are the best vets
radiant frigate
i changed mine to loose cannon with the update
i am uncertain how to feel about it
upper sun
same
radiant frigate
my friend changed his to cutthroat for like 2 matches
male cadian is just too loud
azure rock
I don't get purgatus until 15?
radiant frigate
and in my case it was the opposite, fem loose cannon felt not loud enough
but! she is funny
plucky flax
Yeah female loose cannon is what I have now from male cadian before.
Male cadian has best shout voice line though.
Very macho and aggressive
marble crater
Picked him just for the shout lines
radiant frigate
more pleasant to hear
azure rock
picked fem cadian for the purple eyes
marble crater
I don't want calm, I want to leave none alive
radiant frigate
"calmer than constant yelling" doesn't mean much, to be fair
radiant frigate
I don't want calm, I want to leave none alive
how do you feel about tje concept of closing, killing, then doing it again?
marble crater
It doesn't he can be a bit much, especially if he shouts that aggressively with only a few enemies around
marble crater
how do you feel about tje concept of closing, killing, then doing it again?
I like it, it's simple
radiant frigate
i am also a fan of putting the karking boot in
marble crater
Me too, also changed to female loose cannon for a bit 
rigid sky
I WANT THESE KARKERS DEAD
supple dock
the purple eyes are so cool
upper sun
fem cadian has the same lines but different delivery
also zero lines
radiant frigate
I WANT THESE KARKERS DEAD
fem loose cannon adds that little laugh at the end, it's great
radiant frigate
also zero lines
whar
cinder moon
male cadian too angy, professional is agonizingly boring, and loose cannon is hackneyed
"i 'ate snipers, won't miss that one"
my eyes are going to roll out of my head
though i might switch to cadian simply because of this meme
cinder moon
fem cadian interactions were broke for a long time
balmy kestrel
fem cadian has the same lines but different delivery
i like the female cadian saying “i wanna hear them scream!” better, has more malice to it
analog solstice
hot coral
True. True.
remote bloom
Professional male vet > everything else
radiant frigate
fem loner :)
supple dock
I will say that one of the most unpopular voices imo is the female seer
She doesn't have that same tone of insanity and humor so she just sounds... sad.
half iron
i love male seer
half iron
i love both seers
strong gulch
A sniper snuck up behind me, kicked me, and blocked me from dodging a crusher overhead. 😭
plucky flax
But I am male loner memer shrieking in high pitch.
half iron
i do not like either savant
strong gulch
Female seer sounds like a kind old lady.
My favorite.
plucky flax
PlaaAaAAAAssss stEeeEeeeeEellll
supple dock
I played with an ogryn who had bound their spacebar to saying "diamantine" and omg idk what voice it was but he said it in so many different pitches it was amazing
I think it was the friendly ogryn
supple dock
dumb hungry
supple dock
To defend my dream!
half iron
i like hearing him when he uses smite. maybe that’s why that thing happened with ep
marble crater
Good to see that people switch to male seer, while others switch away, balance must be maintained
half iron
i’ve been a male seer since beta. i’ve always believed in him and his beloved
plucky flax
The other voices don't fit with my name unsanctioned psyker.
half iron
become your voice
marble crater
The other voices don't fit with my name unsanctioned psyker.
You can change your name now 
radiant frigate
The other voices don't fit with my name unsanctioned psyker.
or you could give your character a name
plucky flax
No I can't change away from unsanctioned psyker.
strong gulch
Ok. Terrible meme build for penance farming. Exorcist blazing illisi with SG.
marble crater
Can't, or won't
radiant frigate
what penance is that for
upper sun
Ok. Terrible meme build for penance farming. Exorcist blazing illisi with SG.
exorcist is one of the blessings in the game
strong gulch
Perilous Focus. I don't really use SG, so I'm gonna meme.
upper sun
ye
i just need damage aura one bubble SG and EP
also private game but i refuse to be social to earn good boy points
cinder moon
But I am male loner memer shrieking in high pitch.
BUGS beneath my HEEL
marble crater
also private game but i refuse to be social to earn good boy points
We can do the private game one, don't even need to talk, first DH we see I tank with shield ogryn and you brain burst away
marble crater
It's very nice looking armor
upper sun
ogryn shield we did TWO FUCKING MONSTERS
supple dock
I had a random pug help me with that penance lmao
upper sun
but bots said no
marble crater
Kill the bots beforehand
upper sun
I had a random pug help me with that penance lmao
ye i try to help before hand
supple dock
I was like "but what if I got my penance here?" and they were like "fuck it l;et's go"
upper sun
Kill the bots beforehand
it was assassination torrent 😭 no rails
upper sun
I was like "but what if I got my penance here?" and they were like "fuck it l;et...
i asked two different groups of people to help with the rescue 3 people one
i got 6 people to commit suicide and i still didnt get it
tried it with bots too
fuck that one seriously
supple dock
It'll happen naturally
I wouldn't go for it
You're gonna clutch a scenario and get it without thinking about it
upper sun
it doesnt happen naturally tho
marble crater
I got it naturally, so it must be possible
upper sun
most games one person doesnt die
cinder moon
just play malice
upper sun
if 3 people die at once
supple dock
I got it done on maelstrom aha
hardy delta
go into #psyker-class channel
read "i got 6 people to commit suicide"
supple dock
Cause I clutched
upper sun
when i rescue the first person the first person up is gonna save the third while im saving the second
marble crater
>go into <#1046914150363844779> channel
>read "i got 6 people to commit suicide"...
Call the witch hunters
cinder moon
people do weird shit in malice and 3/4 players die a LOT
upper sun
>go into <#1046914150363844779> channel
>read "i got 6 people to commit suicide"...
real manson hours
half iron
if i had a nickel for every time a psyker got stuck and i told them in chat to explode so they can respawn, i’d have two nickels
cinder moon
had a zealot get shadowrealmed during auric maelstrom yesterday during a boss spawn and mutie/dog wave, shit sucked
marble crater
Last time I got stuck I waited for a mutie to grab and throw me free
cinder moon
one time i hotjoined into the void and instantly fell to my death
marble crater
Nice
supple dock
Dropped in, got netted, died
cinder moon
"stupid bot died. wait, where'd the bot go? oh"
cinder moon
you ever watch a bot fail to free someone from a net just to engage a horde in melee?
i was heated
half iron
just relog
a trip to the golden throne is funnier
quartz barn
No because i rarely get netted
cinder moon
the time i saw it happen i was already dead lol
fluid aspen
res psyker in the middle of 5 ragers, 2 crushers, a bulwark and 300 poxwalkers as a stealth zealot
psyker dies
"what a joke"
supple dock
LOL
cinder moon
i'll bet that zealot still had some grenades
quartz barn
Eh skill issue on the psykers end, shouldve dodge slid backwards
rigid sky
Stealth and toxic individualism go together like psykers and anurysms
quartz barn
Nah jk you almost always get ressed right before the crusher hits
cinder moon
i once got in a lobby with a premade duo of speedrunning knife zealots, both had indefatigable frame so i figured i'd give them a shot. they killed the run after 10 minutes by aggroing literally everything and not being able to deal with it
potent echo
save scum frame
quartz barn
Remember that the game spawns more enemies if you run ahead
rigid sky
More than one stealth on the team = I dip
half iron
the duo i had in an auric pub one time kept spamming “gg” in chat after every minor inconvenience, and there were a lot of minor inconveniences
potent echo
the duo i had in an auric pub one time kept spamming “gg” in chat after every mi...
gg
quartz barn
'Thanks'
cinder moon
people with indefatigable are either very good, or complete trash; it makes me annoyed because it's my fav frame
radiant frigate
it doesnt happen naturally tho
happened naturally for me
everyone just happened to die-perish
marble crater
people with indefatigable are either very good, or complete trash; it makes me a...
I wonder which one I am 
cinder moon
you are probably A.S.S.
marble crater
I wish, I had my auric without dying penance ruined yesterday 
cosmic sigil
JIIIIV? More like JEEEEZ
rigid sky
Gassy snipers
cosmic sigil
stealth farting
rigid sky
Tbh, bring gun psyker and win
cinder moon
tempted to bring my bubble void build
would be more incentivized if malleus WAS UNPRIVATED, wink wink nudge nudge FS
rigid sky
My bubble trauma would do well too
EP brain rupture and bubble both dunk on snipers
And I can deny BoNs at least
fluid aspen
current maelstrom
cinder moon
i'd totally be down if it weren't for the pox gas
that shit lingers way too long as a visual effect past its harmful duration
upper sun
anyone know of any warren penance where you have to shoot blue bottles?
upper sun
current maelstrom
cheesable
metalfab has an exploit where you can skip to the last level
stone canyon
Game keeps handing me these nicely rolled Traumas when i already got near perfect such
upper sun
got a good shotgun for vet
though its not a lawbringer
aaaaaa
now i have to play vet for weeklies
vestal fulcrum
You can choose to play Vet for weeklies 
marble crater
Why have to?
vestal fulcrum
I often skip either Psyker or Vet nowadays
rigid sky
I love all the classes tbh
I didn't really back in VT2, only Saltzpyre really felt like home
But they're all so satisfying here
hasty kraken
Whats the easiest way to get the cliffhanger penance?
It seems so easy, yet i dont have it.
marble crater
This worked for me first try https://youtu.be/SiZp4X8YQww
hasty kraken
Huh, this is the assasination map. Feck, forgot the name.
marble crater
Chasm Station
fluid aspen
marble crater
hasty kraken
Can smite critically strike?
marble crater
Nice, that top was my plan for surge/smite too, it looks so good
cinder moon
normally i don't like all the toobs on the clothing, but, i'm willing to work with this one
marble crater
Can smite critically strike?
No 
hasty kraken
Well, that sucks
upper sun
Whats the easiest way to get the cliffhanger penance?
it wants you to use vent not force push with swords like i saw some people try
potent echo
Normal weapon push is probably more effective than FS push
upper sun
ye force push is technically the attack
the stagger is the actual weapon push
but it does have stupid range
it can push most human enemies from 9m range
potent echo
Now opens bulwarks too
upper sun
what
potent echo
Yes
upper sun
damn
hasty kraken
This worked for me first try https://youtu.be/SiZp4X8YQww
Tried it, didnt work :/
gloomy magnet
damn sefoni is so kind during the ascension rider
"oh my sweet hearts i wont let you guys get hurt"
marble crater
Tried it, didnt work :/
Sad, didn't work because there weren't any enemies or why?
radiant frigate
honestly what the hell is wrong with these daggers
dim parrot
plastic ahh daggers
vestal fulcrum
honestly what the hell is wrong with these daggers
I think their main use is killing oneself when the warp overtakes you, so it doesn’t really matter that they are slightly curved
radiant frigate
I think their main use is killing oneself when the warp overtakes you, so it doe...
i think they were overtaken by the warp based on how they bend if you just look at them from another angle
gloomy magnet
these daggers will increase your GPU usage
radiant frigate
i really wish this cosmetic had less tubes!!
the color scheme is fantastic but THE TUBES!!
vestal fulcrum
Is that the new one? The one with slightly gilded chest plate and toobes on arms?
radiant frigate
Yes
marble crater
I like the tubes on that one
gloomy magnet
tubes can transport nutrients from the warp to you
untold niche
lets hope it doesn't suck :v
cinder moon
tubes can transport nutrients from the warp to you
tubes are the powerhouse of the warp
gloomy magnet
and Khan is driving in tubes...
radiant frigate
lets hope it doesn't suck :v
it's vermin' time
and i suppose this will continue to be the look
untold niche
it's vermin' time
Graphics card straight up died. I can't even do the restart graphics driver shortcut
radiant frigate
Graphics card straight up died. I can't even do the restart graphics driver shor...
skaven tunneled into your pc
i'm afraid it's terminal
upper sun
Graphics card straight up died. I can't even do the restart graphics driver shor...
F
whats the issue?
radiant frigate
😔
dim parrot
lil chonky bird
upper sun
it wont boot or what?
untold niche
Uh okayish. Do you want me to check hardware
upper sun
yer if you want to
untold niche
Just say then I see if I want to do xD
upper sun
id say start by taking the graphics card out to see if thats the issue
if it can boot without it then thats prolly it
untold niche
Ah nah it can boot I just had to restart komputer
But ya no way man's taking out his GPU. Too much of a coward
upper sun
yeah then take it to a guy then
if you can run it do a benchmark and save all your hardware component types
had a techie steal my ram as a kid once 😭
untold niche
Woh
dim parrot
f
untold niche
That's not good
upper sun
yeah
untold niche
Did he replace it with a visually identical one
dim parrot
get revenge
upper sun
get revenge
eh no way to prove it at the time
upper sun
Did he replace it with a visually identical one
filled in the slot with an empty one
like i never saw ramless ram before
radiant frigate
is this ranged or melee headshots
both
patent steeple
is this ranged or melee headshots
that talent is often considered the best in its row, regardless of how many people in game use something else like Cruelty...
untold niche
yeah i saw myself take crulety and i didn't understand why
that look so much better
i assume cruelty for end game builds where your crit chance so much higher
manic halo
what character is that on? god damh
untold niche
waht difficulty should i play at? @patent steeple champion?
patent steeple
i assume cruelty for end game builds where your crit chance so much higher
I mean, vermintide 2 crit damage suffers from the same problems as darktide crit damage (as in, its benefit is very minimal due to it only boosting the damage bonus from cirts, not the full damage)
radiant frigate
champion methinks?
untold niche
how do i unbind keys
radiant frigate
i assume cruelty for end game builds where your crit chance so much higher
actually exquisite huntress is meta
it is a 100% bonus to finesse times your headshot rate vs 50% bonus times your crit chance (which will not go above 20%)
patent steeple
what difficulty to play at
I guess if you want to level up the character quickly you can do recruit on the Screaming Bell map and try to find all of the books (3 normal that take up heal slot, 2 grims that reduce max hp until the carrier dies and take up the 4th slot, aka potions)
untold niche
means i can only take 1 normal and 1 grim?
radiant frigate
also i was wrong on the 20%, since some attacks have extra crit chance
patent steeple
I guess if you want to level up the character quickly you can do recruit on the ...
just remember to do it solo, as random recruit players are garbage and dont communicate with you.
radiant frigate
still though
patent steeple
means i can only take 1 normal and 1 grim?
you can tell bots to take the other ones
radiant frigate
exquisite huntress gives you damage from the front, cruelty gives you damage sometimes and you already have backstab damage
that way you are dangerous from any direction
untold niche
you can tell bots to take the other ones
which one is screaming bell?
untold niche
exquisite huntress gives you damage from the front, cruelty gives you damage som...
yeah so weird peepo take cruelty
radiant frigate
screaming bell is part of The Normals™
patent steeple
which one is screaming bell?
helmgart, do the 2nd highest row of levels until you nulock screaming bell
untold niche
do i just have to do last one
gloomy magnet
dt player is viewing back at the vt2
patent steeple
do i just have to do last one
no, i said 2nd highest, as in act 2...
radiant frigate
rat bell
untold niche
no, i said 2nd highest, as in act 2...
oh heh heh
let me google screaming bell guide
gloomy magnet
just land in that map and purge rats
untold niche
btw is parry timing immediate
radiant frigate
parry is the first 0.5s of entering block
radiant frigate
if you mean for shade's parry dodge stealth yes
patent steeple
so easy?
not really, the timing itself makes it kinda hard to get a lot of use from parrying...
untold niche
I guess if you want to level up the character quickly you can do recruit on the ...
how come recruit and not say veteran or something, just curious
radiant frigate
how come recruit and not say veteran or something, just curious
all difficulties have same xp
patent steeple
how come recruit and not say veteran or something, just curious
recruit has minimal (and very weak) rats, and like kat said all difficulties give same xp so recruit screaming bell with all books is easiest to grind character levels with
patent steeple
no wonder vt2 felt terrible to grind
books give more ( as in, more than the difficulty) xp when you carry all of the ones you find to the end (as well as have the potential of making the completion chest reward a bit better, but recruit chests are garbage, so if you just want better weapons do something higher than recruit)
untold niche
is there anything you can't parry?
untold niche
boss overheads
only the super big boss right
those tanky chaos wawrriros i still can parry
radiant frigate
only the super big boss right
those tanky chaos wawrriros i still can parry
you can parry them but they will nuke your stamina
untold niche
push is not 360
do you still have block when pushing
remote bloom
Not really
radiant frigate
only the super big boss right
those tanky chaos wawrriros i still can parry
i mean technically boss overheads you can also parry but they still do damage
remote bloom
I often got hit, when I misplaced my push
Some boss overheads do, minotaur is weird in that regard
remote bloom
But that's beastmen for you, we do not like beastmen
radiant frigate
'ate beastmen
remote bloom
Mino is the most persistant of the monsters I feel
radiant frigate
potentially more so than the [REDACTED] gun
remote bloom
It is quite rough to get him to aggro someone else
radiant frigate
it is quite rough that he switches targets mid combo
remote bloom
He's usually super persistant on one person whenever I have to fight him
But yeah, sometimes he just swaps out of nowhere
rigid sky
let me google screaming bell guide
I still don't know what to do with all the pumpkins I've apparently won from being a lucky bleeder
radiant frigate
I still don't know what to do with all the pumpkins I've apparently won from bei...
don't eat them all at once
you will need provisions on the way to the bell
remote bloom
Keep the rations in case you get stuck in Norsca
radiant frigate
do the elf and sienna eat as much as the others, i wonder
radiant frigate
"someone save some for the dwarf, we know he'll eat anything"
remote bloom
Probably would murder a troll during his time on Norsca
untold niche
can i ask bot to heal me?
remote bloom
To cook a proper stew
Bots will heal you if your health is low enough
Or you're on your last wound
untold niche
u r blocking when pushing like in DT right
remote bloom
I don't think you are
untold niche
bot don't want to pick it up... :v
radiant frigate
hold t and tell them to do so
remote bloom
You have to order them to do it
untold niche
ya i ping it
barren blade
I NEEED someone to help me with this stupid ass going out with a bang penance
radiant frigate
locate shotgunner and blow up in front of them
untold niche
i found vt2 sound ques less distinct
all i hear is whispering
and more enemy types?
radiant frigate
whispering? assassin rats?
untold niche
the melee isn't "harder" but more so "different" and yeah i think like it was mentioned you get punished harder
turns out it was some fat magician
radiant frigate
oh that
upper sun
levelling feels so slow though :v
ah yes the fatshark leveling experience
untold niche
also whats movement speed for
of course i dont mean it in the ltieral sense
like why would anyone take 20% ms speed after crit over 20% damage reduction
marble crater
To move more faster
near drift
I NEEED someone to help me with this stupid ass going out with a bang penance
just soften up some shotgunners with staff basic bolt, walk up go kaboom get penance
rigid sky
Movement speed can be really good in a lot of games though
marble crater
just soften up some shotgunners with staff basic bolt, walk up go kaboom get pen...
Be aware: trying it several times in one mission might make your team question your competence
rigid sky
Getting it by accident is the best way now
near drift
I did brain off smite bot for the penance I have no shame
rigid sky
If you don't take Shriek, you will pop some time or another
marble crater
Take caze and play like you have shriek
rigid sky
Just press w when it inevitably happens
wind spruce
like why would anyone take 20% ms speed after crit over 20% damage reduction
Because movement and positioning is far more important than damage
untold niche
Because movement and positioning is far more important than damage
im not talking about this game btw
tired estuary
you really don't want to get hit in vt2 esp on squishy classes
untold niche
yeah but you need to frontline all the time
its not like dt where you can move around :v
and enemies are scattered
vt2 enemies just form one whole line
but i got my answer, apparnetly its just to set up for backstabs
radiant frigate
you really don't want to get hit in vt2 esp on squishy classes
getting hit for 20% less is good
untold niche
im not talking about this game btw
and it was damage reduction as well :v
tired estuary
I mean without barkskin (so, chaos wastes) on higher end difficulty you'll likely just get gibbed
untold niche
I mean without barkskin (so, chaos wastes) on higher end difficulty you'll likel...
does movement speed make your dodges faster?
radiant frigate
no
untold niche
yeah one is generalist slightly tanky one is cool dps main character class
wait
can i just level to max and playu chaos wastes LOL @radiant frigate
since chaos wastes no need item right
you pick up item in game
radiant frigate
you can also just play chaos wastes
remote bloom
Mercenary Kruber is pretty strong and fun to play
untold niche
can u multiple class in chaos wastes
radiant frigate
since power from levels also does nothing there, you would just be missing talents
radiant frigate
can u multiple class in chaos wastes
no but you can get multiple talents from the same row as blessings
like cruelty and exquisite huntress together
or multiple thp talents
radiant frigate
no
radiant frigate
i do appreciate that about dt
you can just play whatever class you want
it is a bit of an issue when you play with other people who kind of just want to play one character but you can't both have it
rigid sky
But then triple psyker incident
Sounds like an easy win
Or a room 1 wipe
No middle ground
remote bloom
It's usually a quick wipe
I remember a game however, me as a Vet and 3 loner psykers, smoothest game of my life
barren blade
just soften up some shotgunners with staff basic bolt, walk up go kaboom get pen...
Lol I got it with pure luck right after I put that
Psykers are THE glass cannons of this game. I tried doing that penance in a mission and kept getting grabbed by mutants and one-shot by Reavers or whatever they're called
remote bloom
Ragers you mean?
rigid sky
Mutants maybe
uh
maulers even lmao
if it's 1-shots
idk why I said mutants again I thought I was saying maulers
near drift
Maulers will def 1 shot a squishy psyker with their overhead
If a mutant can one shot you that's beyond glass cannon
paper skin glass bones situation
remote bloom
If mutant one shots you, I suggest grabbing some toughness nodes in talent tree, +toughness curios perhaps
Or in general, make your toughness gains better
radiant frigate
Sounds like an easy win
triple psyker is a shitshow
4 psykers is an easy clear but 3 is bad
remote bloom
Unless the other class can provide space
upper sun
DO NOT go on top of the elevators
radiant frigate
is thuddo stuck
upper sun
thuddo is stuck
modern tusk
DO NOT go on top of the elevators
Classical blunder
remote bloom
I can help getting him down
marble crater
Too many rashuns?
remote bloom
Pass me a grenade
upper sun
Too many rashuns?
too fat yes
radiant frigate
Друг is best ogryn name
modern tusk
too fat yes
More fat = more bullet proof to fight for emprah
stone canyon
Game handing good staff bases like candy today
radiant frigate
truly these are the four classes of darktide https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/362/791/c78.jpg
radiant frigate
Game handing good staff bases like candy today
promising
near drift
Does disrupt destiny work with voidstrike, it sounds like it should
Haven't messed with that combo yet
stone canyon
But this is better right?
radiant frigate
Does disrupt destiny work with voidstrike, it sounds like it should
Yes
stone canyon
Could craft em both though and see which gets more lucky
vestal fulcrum
truly these are the four classes of darktide https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images...
Droog I assume is Zealot
radiant frigate
Droog I assume is Zealot <:whatthefuck_heresy:1049724444207239168>
it is hard to truly pinpoint which is which
the fighter should be vet but the rest are difficult
crazy ass can be zealot or psyker
remote bloom
the fighter should be vet but the rest are difficult
If the Vet is me, it's totally fighter
vestal fulcrum
Crazy ass is definitely Gunslinger Psyker
upper sun
But this is better right?
hell yeah
stone canyon
Semibricked
Eh, ill just save my 5k plaststeel from further disappointments, got already workable Voidstrike and im not that big fan of it anyway
untold niche
it is a bit of an issue when you play with other people who kind of just want to...
Feels weird why they enforce it in vy2
radiant frigate
Feels weird why they enforce it in vy2
well it's because the u5 are distinct characters
untold niche
I mean that's easily fixed
radiant frigate
small group as opposed to an entire warband
cinder moon
I’d prefer 1 of each class in most DT lobbies tbh, it’s kinda annoying when you get 3/4 single class teams
tired estuary
fuck that
radiant frigate
I’d prefer 1 of each class in most DT lobbies tbh, it’s kinda annoying when you ...
eh
remote bloom
I’d prefer 1 of each class in most DT lobbies tbh, it’s kinda annoying when you ...
It's fine if you got different voices at least
cinder moon
play ogryn, get 3 ogryn. play vet, get 4 vet. shit gets old
stone canyon
I wish there was guaranteed Survivalist Veteran whenever i run Gunlugger Ogryn
upper sun
I’d prefer 1 of each class in most DT lobbies tbh, it’s kinda annoying when you ...
3 psyker one zealot
untold niche
I mean that's easily fixed
I think they have this context because they wanted 1 of each class, rather than have the context first to decide the gameplay restrictions
upper sun
the zealot remains captured until a boss spawns
cinder moon
the fanatic wreaks carnage! Likely out of error
stone canyon
I almost left yesterday game when i saw true level +4 loner knife zealot, but that was the best game of the night, didnt go wandering around solo
radiant frigate
you mean, the freak
untold niche
And from an outsider perspective VOC melee vet is so similar to zealot anyway
radiant frigate
I wish there was guaranteed Survivalist Veteran whenever i run Gunlugger Ogryn
not same
ammo is not a problem even without survivalist
stone canyon
On Kickback it at times is
untold niche
I see ogryns spamming rumvler when the team is handling horde fine, just that there is a big horde and I'm like ???
stone canyon
With Survivalist, can afford to spam Kickback into hordes too
untold niche
They don't use it when it's needed the most I.e. mixed horde
stone canyon
Last game was bit painful as i ran down to 0 ammo once and took a while until found next ammo tin, meanwhile our Zealot holding that ammo box with full ammo 🤷♂️
radiant frigate
thou shalt utilize melee
stone canyon
But Carneval, so ammo box was handy in the end event too, but we had found extra by that point which was on me
Honestly Gunlugger Ogryn with Club3 without any melee talents, still feels like it does easier and stronger melee than dedicated melee classes at times
So its not an issue really, but i just like to pewpew as much as possible
quartz barn
Most of the time i just grab and deploy the ammobox instanly
Literally no point saving it since ypu get ammo before the halfway point / end anyway
stone canyon
Pretty much yeah, just if everyone is almost filled then no point slapping it
quartz barn
Plus i get to joink the next ammo or medi faster for more penance progress
marble crater
Yep, drop it for the penance if nothing else
near drift
I'll admit after doing the barrier penance throwing down bubble shields everywhere with all the cool down reducers has an appeal
lethal minnow
Hey, can someone please suggest some good build that goes around bubble shield + smite? Like, good, useful for team and mission completion. No, I'm not going to spam Smite all mission.
patent steeple
I'll admit after doing the barrier penance throwing down bubble shields everywhe...
toughness bubbles or regular bubbles? I have seen some psykers running regular bubbles in auric and I assume its only because their build cannot afford toughness bubbles
patent wing
so i only played 1 game with new dd and 25 stacks but it was kinda bad
we all stick to more time?
upper sun
i do at least
patent steeple
I do as well
marble crater
Hey, can someone please suggest some good build that goes around bubble shield +...
I can give you a build for bubble and I can give you one for smite, both is overkill, imo
patent wing
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patent steeple
I can give you a build for bubble and I can give you one for smite, both is over...
when I tried auric maelstroms via LFG, the other people said both bubble and smite with purgatus is mandatory for psyker...
near drift
toughness bubbles or regular bubbles? I have seen some psykers running regular b...
I got the toughness upgrade on mine
marble crater
Smite and purgatus? 
near drift
My build is bubble/trauma/EP BB
lethal minnow
when I tried auric maelstroms via LFG, the other people said both bubble and smi...
"Mandatory" that's kinda bullshit
It makes it easier, yes