#psyker-class

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untold niche
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oh

upper sun
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WHAT

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WHY DONT THEY EXPLAIN THIS SHIT

untold niche
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i saw it being mentioned here once but i forgot about it
tbf its not a whole lot

upper sun
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I mean 90% of the time i either run momentum on zealot or play psyker so i really dont care about passive regen

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but shit that would be good to know

marble crater
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Toughness regen curio?

rigid sky
marble crater
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I think it only affects the passive regenration from coherency, no?

dusk void
marble crater
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I'm not using this, only class I use it on is ogryn

supple dock
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if you're under a lot of fire and getting flanked it can be the difference between half toughness and full toughness before getting pushed out

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but that being said, yeah just crit lol

dusk void
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Just have the 4 +15 toughness boosts and have 17% max toughness curios and you’ll be fine, I guess. I suppose you can have one 30% toughness regeneration speed

marble crater
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Just don't have depleted toughness shrug

dusk void
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I’m thinking about running another toughness curious instead of a health curios. Would anyone advise against this?

upper galleon
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With my minors being +5 to hp and toughness, and just whatever i could find that would be useful, i think it is corruption resist, sniper resist, and a gunner resist

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But i think psyker is in a danger zone unlike oggy and zealot where you can’t go 3 toughness curios unless you are realllly good

marble crater
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I highly suggest a +3 stamina curio, with kinectic deflection you can block forever

upper galleon
spice veldt
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though kinetic deflection alone is good nuff

upper galleon
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And in DT if you spam block after stamina is broken you will still block

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But it is based on what you are comfortable with and preference

spice veldt
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i'm a toughness stan but there's probably some caution to be had about not taking a health curio

upper galleon
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I just threw in my 2 cents from my psyker experience

dusk void
upper galleon
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Yea i tried going 3 toughness on vet and psyker way back when grims were worth picking up and i was hitting fully corrupted 2 max hp left

rigid sky
upper galleon
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There isnt a lot of sources of HP but psyker especially has access to toughness regen that scales with the more toughness you have

supple dock
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Using venting shriek I have never had a need for +3 stam

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though I will say +3 stam is wild

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plague ogryn charge puts you up to like 43% peril from 0

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instead of the 86 or so it normally does

marble crater
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Extra stamina has the chance to prevent situations where you would need the extra toughness in the first place, I like it for more blocking and sprinting

dusk void
supple dock
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perks are all over the place

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tf you gonna do with 4% cdr

upper sun
dusk void
upper sun
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better than zero% cdr if you ask me

dusk void
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My chainsword for monstrosity damage for the 4% cdr

untold niche
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why chainsword got to do with cdr

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sprint efficiency?

dusk void
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Damn, y’all really making me feel like a bum playing this game. I guess I’m not cut out for this. Later y’all 👋

untold niche
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no im legit asking why CDR is linked to chainsword

untold niche
dusk void
untold niche
dusk void
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I thought it was helpful in fighting monstrosities, but I guess I can replace that perk with a toughness regeneration/health perk

supple dock
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If you're going for combat ability cooldown you tend to go all in on it with seer's presence

upper sun
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sooo

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is it just me or do crushers not stagger with smite anymore?

untold niche
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ah i think just your wording in replied message confused me
I mean it can be, its just 4% of 30 seconds is 1.2 seconds
full CDR (12%) is 3.6 seconds
if i was you i would prob change it to HP since you are runnign HP curios ( i feel like this would stack better for what you run than 1.2 seconds of VS)
Assuming you are running VS of course

The sprint efficiency just really doesn't make sense to me on psyker since you are a ranged class.
Even on gunker where you need to use melee alot you will still assail weave

fierce rain
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Hey Psykers!

supple dock
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I think if you're using DS4 sprint efficiency is fine

untold niche
fierce rain
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Question, do any of you know if defy fate penance supposed to be continuously or you can screw it up and still increase the points for it?

untold niche
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because after your run you wouldn't block / push

fierce rain
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defy fate is this one

supple dock
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you right

fierce rain
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i'm unsure if you're supposed to maintain it for that long or you just have to do it in total

untold niche
dusk void
supple dock
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Yeah but if you don't slide in the right rhythm you lose momentum anyways

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Iunno

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I don't hate it

untold niche
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i went to psk just to practice sliding on zero stam while i was playing 6 stam vet

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xD

supple dock
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vet's regen rate is awful

untold niche
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nah its not about the regen

fierce rain
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doesn't vet receive more damage if they're sprinting?

supple dock
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This was before they patched it

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You couldn't slide at full speed on vet because you wouldn't regen stamina lol

spice veldt
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that's 30 minutes so i assume it's accumulative

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i got defy fate and i can assure you that i don't think i've ever stayed at 15 stacks for more than a minute at a time

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so probably cumulative

untold niche
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at zero stamina, how it works is this:
from not sprinting, in a short time you go to max speed, then afterward you very quickly drop speed due to zero stam (vets zero stam run speed is 50%, zealot is 75%)
so you time it properly you always at (near) full slide speed

marble crater
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It's in total yes, not 30 minutes in a row

supple dock
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yes. and I'm saying before they gave vet a stam buff he couldn't do that

untold niche
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how come?

supple dock
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took longer to start stamina regen

fierce rain
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d

supple dock
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so you HAD to have some downtime

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idk about post buff

untold niche
supple dock
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or are you saying at zero stamina you would not reach full run speed

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ye

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Cause you can mimic having stamina for a while if you slide properly

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but vet could not

spice veldt
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you couldn't slide at full speed but you have plenty of speed even at zero stam with the slowest weapons

untold niche
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ohhh

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i didn't know dat

supple dock
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yeah it was dumb lmao

spice veldt
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and you always reset back to your full sprint speed when entering a sprint

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even at zero stamina

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after which it slowly decays to your "proper" speed

untold niche
plucky flax
untold niche
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i remember thsi waht you told me too

spice veldt
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it does decay so your sprint speed will inevitably decay by a slight amount

plucky flax
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It finishes counting once you drop to below 15 stacks and update the progress.

spice veldt
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so in that sense it is not your "full" speed

untold niche
spice veldt
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ye but that's not optimal

untold niche
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how come?

spice veldt
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cuz there's a short amount of time after a slide where you stand up and your movement slows down heavily for a short instant

untold niche
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ya

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so how does that affect sliding at full speed

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like why that make slide at full speed not optimal

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because that still happen when you don't slide at full speed right

spice veldt
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yeah it's just balancing the frequency of slides and how long you maintain the benefit of resetting your sprint speed

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because for zealot, it's basically not worth it because you maintain 75% of your sprint bonus at zero samina

untold niche
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so you mean not worth to do max speed slide because you keep getting the heavy slow?

spice veldt
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yeah, though it is short

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not that i've done testing on it

untold niche
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the slide tech works best on carrying objective @spice veldt

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i think while carrying no slow

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i outran zombies

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xD

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zero stamina

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was quite funny

spice veldt
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yeah you slide faster than walking/running for some reason

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they broke that during the update where they patched out some movement tech with the duelling sword and others

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and just never fixed it i guess

untold niche
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doesn't ds4 slide attack tech still exist

spice veldt
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yeah there's that on the heavy attakc

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but it used to exist on the lights

untold niche
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light is the uppercut swing?

spice veldt
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yeah i forget if it was on any particular mark but it was there

untold niche
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from bottom right to top left

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ahh

smoky wigeon
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whats everyone favorite dueling sword?

spice veldt
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mk4 for optimality reasons

marble crater
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Mk4 because that's the only one I tried so far thumbsup_ogryn

supple dock
smoky wigeon
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Okay

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WHAT PERKS / BLESSING FOR DS4 PLEASE

supple dock
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uhh

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maniac/flak and uncanny strike, the other blessing is whatever

smoky wigeon
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and what stas? do i need high Finesse?

supple dock
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Cleave and Mobility are your dumpstats

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it has cleave right?

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I think it does

marble crater
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Yes

plucky flax
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MK5 if you have max swag.

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(Like you only use your sword for movement)

marble crater
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I still like mobility to outrun the roughnecks

supple dock
smoky wigeon
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how bad is this

plucky flax
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Nah mk5 has more swag and is faster.

smoky wigeon
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please tell me how bad this is

supple dock
smoky wigeon
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someone just tell me what blessing to throw on this bad boy

plucky flax
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I'd put uncanny over precog and maniac over groaners damage.

supple dock
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^

smoky wigeon
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Maniac really?

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w.e I listened blindly

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thanks

plucky flax
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For mutie.

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Tag it a few times with staff range attack. Your heavy 1 poke would do like 90% damage to it without any buff.

supple dock
plucky flax
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If someone took a few stray shots or you have high peril/warp charges etc it's ez 1 shot.

smoky wigeon
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Thanks

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love you all

sudden valve
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How are people grinding the Auric Storm Survivor title? Are y yall solo queueing and hoping to god or forming a team here and grinding?

near drift
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I'mma be real with you for the maelstrom title I just quit out of the lobby if I was downed and looked like I wasn't going to get revived

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I only had to do it once but still doing pub lobbies for it, I ain't playing fair

fresh reef
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I'M FREE! I'M FINALLY FUCKING FREE!

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THANK FUCK

plucky flax
upper sun
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man

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even auric feels like its spawning no enemies now

supple dock
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time for solo runs

upper sun
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how the hell am i supposed to kill 999 trillion elites

smoky wigeon
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man

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i cant get DS4 to work well

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I just love my Deimos so much

marble crater
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What's the issue?

smoky wigeon
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I mean I can shred with the DS4

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I just Love the H2 too much lol

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Knocking over stuff with heavy 2 is just solid as hell

marble crater
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Fair, I like the ds4 because I can just poke

upper sun
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im too smooth brained to combo l1h2

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ds4 goes hard

marble crater
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And fast

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No more getting left behind by the zealots and knife vet on the team KEKW_ogryn

potent echo
supple dock
potent echo
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someone has to find the damn totems

marble crater
marble crater
supple dock
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I do an enhanced version of that tech too

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I swap to sword, THEN slide, THEN swap to staff, then quell, THEN BACK TO SWORD

potent echo
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auric maels are infested with disconnecting babies now

sudden valve
sudden valve
potent echo
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that sweet A.S.S.

marble crater
near drift
upper sun
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one dude who posted his gameplay here was pretty fucking impressive with the voidstrike dodge sliding backwards while quell cancelling

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theres too many build guides and not enough move tech guides 😭

fresh reef
untold niche
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i guess it has to do with your bindings as well

jovial juniper
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Default

untold niche
jovial juniper
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Blitz enjoyer

fresh reef
supple dock
untold niche
fresh reef
untold niche
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or normal game

lapis violet
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what is the point of purgation staff's LMB?

untold niche
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too

fresh reef
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normal games as well

untold niche
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cheating

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thansk for the link

fresh reef
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like, you can stunlock ragers with it

jovial juniper
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Push bursters

fresh reef
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apart from that though you wanna just use full charge rmb for the damage ramp up

marble crater
upper sun
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still cant get quell cancelling to work correctly

supple dock
supple dock
untold niche
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there is a bit of animation dela

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you can cancel it by quelling

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it should be in the guide

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surge's version is that you swap to blitz

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agent has a video on the surge version

supple dock
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Oh, I see. seems simple enough

untold niche
plucky flax
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Surge is blitz cancel not quell cancel.

supple dock
marble crater
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There is too much canceling Sitgryn

untold niche
plucky flax
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But of course you can quell cancel with surge left click.

untold niche
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but i got too lazy :p

supple dock
untold niche
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the point is that you shoot --> quell for like 0.2 second --> as soon as you see the quell animatin (hand wave) you stop quell) then get to shoot again

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so you save a very small amount of time

lapis violet
plucky flax
lapis violet
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purgatus' works differently

jovial juniper
marble crater
plucky flax
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I have 6 fingers on each hand.

untold niche
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i don't like to quell cancel because it lows you down as well

plucky flax
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Ez tech

marble crater
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My plans involve some annoying penances, so maybe

untold niche
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but blitz cancel i feel is worth if you are running surge

marble crater
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Not if I get CTS staregryn

supple dock
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I tend to surge while dodging forward and swap to sword

untold niche
marble crater
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Carpal tunnel syndrome KEKW_ogryn

untold niche
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god blast you

near drift
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Nah that's for the knife mains with all the attack speed boosts mashing 100 clicks every 10 seconds

supple dock
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okay it is time I retire for 14 hours

untold niche
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grinding for cknife rn

supple dock
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I have a condition that makes my joints hurt fuck the DS and the knife

untold niche
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don't even have to dodge

upper sun
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wrist stretches help a lot

near drift
jovial juniper
supple dock
untold niche
upper sun
untold niche
marble crater
supple dock
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Keyboard not the problem, clicking finger is the problem on mouse

jovial juniper
untold niche
supple dock
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There's no amount of braces or preventatives that can help it because I have fibromyalgia and it's a shit tier disease KEKW_ogryn

ornate hamlet
untold niche
marble crater
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Looks... interesting

supple dock
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I've heard about that, looks wildly uncomfortable

untold niche
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your natural state of wrist is facing inwards

supple dock
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Not to mention I use my wrist as an anchor point, which doesn't seem possible with that mouse

untold niche
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not behind

ornate hamlet
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your palm being on the same plane as the arm is actually the state in which you have the most grip alongside having your arm in a 90º angle ☝️ chadgryn

untold niche
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that too complex me me no understand

subtle swift
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does the blessing "precognition" give 120% damage if the strike is a crit AND a weakspot hit?

marble crater
ornate hamlet
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Something of the sort, yeah

supple dock
untold niche
subtle swift
untold niche
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like

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its kind of backwards i feel
because e.g. you score a headshot and a crit right, the game will see how much is your finese.
then since finese is increased by 60%...

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rather than, oh, this is a "finese" hit, then it checks if its headshot or crit

subtle swift
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all depends on how the minds of the devs work

near drift
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Do you think for a scriers gaze crit focus that riposte/shred DS4 is overkill? Should I swap one out or nah?

subtle swift
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which is why i thought i would ask lol

ornate hamlet
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I personally run rampage and riposte/shred

spice veldt
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+60% finesse is +60% crit weakspot unfortunately

ornate hamlet
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Oh right, crit weakspot is its own modifier

spice veldt
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though, +60% crit damage and +60% weakspot damage given separately would indeed be +120% crit weakspot damage

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e.g., duellist

supple dock
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oh yeah

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that makes sense

subtle swift
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yee

supple dock
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well, overall it's still a very fat number

near drift
ornate hamlet
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After a not-so-recent balance patch, it's meant to proc with any light attack against poxwalkers and groaners

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If anything, it's kind of piss easy to proc

thorn cedar
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it used to only be the push attack

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like even with it procced only the push attack could hit three targets lol

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now its a power bonus so its a lot more consistent

near drift
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Hmm okay I'll probably give it a shot again

ornate hamlet
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The light attack cleave is 4.5 now

near drift
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It'd be either that or uncanny

ornate hamlet
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And if memory doesn't fail me, tier 3 rampage gets you just a tiny bit short of 6 cleave

supple dock
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oh shit they made DS able to cleave on lights?

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Fucking wild

ornate hamlet
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Which isn't a problem for groaners, but it prevents you from cleaving a fourth poxwalker

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Since the cleave limit for that is 6

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And you get 5.9something

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But I could very well be misremembering and maybe it's rounded up

supple dock
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then yeah uncanny and rampage would be my selection for ds

upper sun
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oops

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just braught bubble in scab maelstrom

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this is what penance brain does

supple dock
upper sun
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also assail

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fuk me

sonic raven
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even "mostly melee" doesn't mean you won't get ganked by an entire firing squad of snipers in the wrong place... learned that the hard way yesterday

supple dock
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at least you have toughness gen???

upper sun
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ye

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nah

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i left

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what am i gonna do assail the mauler?

jovial juniper
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Poke his eyes with it

ornate hamlet
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Annoy him until he goes home

shy willow
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building an assail psyker, any recommendations for keystone?

rigid sky
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I run Assail with Voidstrike or guns and both of those like DD

shy willow
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I see.

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I was thinking trauma force staff

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so I can take out or CC groups of maulers and crushers

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I've only really used brain burst and the occasional smite before

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don't play that much psyker, so mine is a tad undergeared

marble crater
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Trauma is fun, left keystone is fun if you want to use staff and shriek more, middle for when you want to use assail more as well, imo. Right is also good with assail

ornate hamlet
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After I learned damaging a marked enemy resets DD's timer, my life got much better

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I still loathe the targeting system, but at least it's not a rush to kill anymore

lethal lagoon
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Meh, the targeting system is the best part

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Pew-pew arcade game

marble crater
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Blaze trauma with DD, should be easy to damage the blue man with the soulblaze, right? loregryn

mighty olive
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The targeting system for DD feels worse after the update, targeting mobs super far behind walls

upper sun
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never try to get any zealot penances
48/60
actively try to get psyker penances
50/60

marble crater
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@lethal lagoon I will take that emote reaction as a "don't do this" KEKW_ogryn

lethal lagoon
upper sun
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🤔 i have like 2x more playtime too

marble crater
upper sun
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hell yeah

rigid sky
upper sun
rigid sky
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You'd have the crit rate which isn't bad, but not really any weakspot synergy and iirc a low actual crit multiplier

upper sun
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what are the odds of that

rigid sky
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Imo it's warp siphon or empowered psionics for Trauma

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If you use bubble I'd go EP

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If Shriek probably WS, or maybe EP too

marble crater
upper sun
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its got deflector thats 1/4

rigid sky
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Elites isn't bad either iirc

marble crater
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@rigid sky was just a thought, possibly for the penance if nothing else, I do like more shrieks that's why I usually run charges

rigid sky
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Haven't had much chance to play since the patch

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Most I've done is give my veteran a less cringe name

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And waste dockets on bad rashad rolls

marble crater
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There is a DD penance to keep max stacks, if trauma shockwave can refresh the timer that would make it easier to get, worth a thought

rigid sky
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You'll get it easier with voidstrike or a good decently accurate gun tbh

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They're quite well optimised for hitting blue bois

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Trauma is range limited

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(Mostly)

marble crater
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I don't have a voidstrike yet

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Aiming bad KEKW_ogryn

rigid sky
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Use the penance as a sweetener to build a good Voidstrike thenb:D

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It's fine, the projectile is the size of a bowling ball

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Assail kills laterally moving targets for you

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Voidstrike kills people running straight at you, or hanging back shooting

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And Shriek kills, um, everything

marble crater
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It does, shriek is love, I enjoy it even more with the female loner voice now

rigid sky
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Both loners are great for it

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Male loner has the best Scrier's Gaze lines

marble crater
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Only psyker voice I don't like at all is the female seer

marble crater
upper sun
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i love the new lines for all of em tbh

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they should just keep doing story telling that way

torpid girder
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I might be basic but I really love the professional's delivery lines for things like shriek

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not the male one as much but

upper sun
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i love the schizo ones most

near drift
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Does anyone get any value from raking fire aside from BoN kills, got a columnus drop with that and dumdum

upper sun
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imo its better than the other options

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fire frenzy and spitting fire have an extremely low range raking is more reliable

near drift
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That's fair since it's not range locked, it was probably gonna be either speedloader or death spitter as the other so I'll just stick with raking then

upper sun
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post the gun

near drift
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I would but I'm not at home rn

late sapphire
upper sun
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well caig guy can prolly give you a better answer

upper sun
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i usually only proc deathspitter like 3 times per game

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maybe its better on psyker idk

late sapphire
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I'm fairly sure i get more use out of fire frenzy than i would get out of raking fire

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In fact i'd take stripped down or hit&run over raking fire

upper sun
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whats stripped down again?

near drift
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My crackhead psyker using scriers and guns is already up close most of the time anyways

late sapphire
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ranged immunity on close kill

upper sun
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ah

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well @rigid sky plays gunker the most here ask em about caigs

late sapphire
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i have deathspitter 4 fire frenzy 4 on my zealot braced autogun and it goes from plink plink to a killing machine one second after i start shooting

upper sun
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braced guns are stupid

late sapphire
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+50% damage from fire frenzy is great to have in an emergency even as a psyker imo

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If you have dumdum anyways in particular, it's also Close Damage

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About 15m iirc

marble crater
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Close range is too close Riot

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I think I read it was changed to 8m now

late sapphire
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I usually play surge psyker so anything more than 25m away never existed for me anyways

late sapphire
sudden valve
rigid sky
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Man I am far from the best gunker lol, I just talk about it a lot

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And I just follow the wisdom of others really

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Dumdum because it stacks so easily and is a lot of power, fixed.

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Second can be deathspitter, fire frenzy, or raking fire for the most part (raking fire is antiboss and probably won't be active most of the time)

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(But the others all stack quite slowly for what they are too, they're all less important than the perks imo)

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Pygex is a way better gunker than me

upper sun
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ah yes the guy who posts once a month to correct one person yeah we can totally ask him

plucky flax
near drift
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For real? I don't hear anyone ever talk about it, and it sounds on paper bad for high fire rate guns

marble crater
plucky flax
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It lets you burst the first target faster.

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Good for specials.

marble crater
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59.815/150.000 for the shield sadge

near drift
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rekt, sentenced to 10 years shield use

upper sun
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like

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is it even being calculated correctly

marble crater
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Mostly ranged enemies maelstrom is on, maybe I will try this loregryn

upper sun
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remember to leave the mission as soon as you get it so you're not forced to play it any second longer

ornate hamlet
marble crater
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Not a good time, that maelstrom?

marble crater
upper sun
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why did i not remember the wall stacks

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🤔 does the wall have higher hp?

cosmic sigil
late sapphire
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Yes!

ionic depot
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i can use brain rupture to do the penances who say brain burst ?

upper sun
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ye

ionic depot
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thx o7

small valve
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you guys think male loner is gay

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he sets my gaydar off idk about the rest of yall

upper sun
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sorry i only think about killing

small valve
radiant frigate
dusk void
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Um, where are them clothes though?

jovial juniper
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The blunts need clothes

ornate hamlet
ornate hamlet
plucky flax
#

You can cheese it in range scab only maelstrom.

whole kernel
#

So I started the game as a vet a couple weeks ago. And, now I'm trying to level up my other character classes and I'm struggling with my psyker class. I'm lvl 11 rn and I keep dying multiple times per missions on uprising. Can anyone help me out with class build strategy or something? Thx

broken carbon
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im curious

marble crater
#

While leveling

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Maybe something like this, and avoid the staves for now, they are worse than guns in the low levels

whole kernel
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@marble crater yeah that's pretty much where my build is at rn

marble crater
#

What do you die to, melee or ranged?

whole kernel
#

Melee just when I get mauled by a group of enemy's

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But I mostly just play with randoms on quick play and most of the time they aren't looking for diamante or plasteel and I am

marble crater
#

Try an illisi force sword, if you don't already and then it comes down to dodging, blocking

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Without toughness psyker dies in like two hits to poxwalkers sadge

whole kernel
echo turtle
#

Assail alone will carry games until lvl 30

marble crater
#

And can carry them then as well, I like my trauma with EP assail and shriek the more I play it pogryn

whole kernel
#

Yeah so I'm working my way down the talent tree to venting shriek from assail

marble crater
whole kernel
#

I guess I just have to change my playstyle as from when I was a vet ya know?

marble crater
#

Yeah, we don't have the oh shit button that is shout

solid elk
#

We have the "ohno, brain hurty" and then explode button

whole kernel
#

No doubt

marble crater
#

Psyker toughness comes from managing peril mostly

marble crater
whole kernel
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Yeah I'm 2 points away from shriek and I think I'll be better off once I get it

small valve
#

god I hate smite

marble crater
small valve
#

It's so mid

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If it actually KILLED some of the enemies you stun maybe it would be good but it's just a worse version of Assail

marble crater
#

Use EP smite with shriek to kill ragers

small valve
#

Half the time my teammates don't even shoot at the crusher I'm stunning

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Then I reach 100% peril and get my head caved in by a big ugly fucker with a rebar club like it's fallout new vegas

mighty olive
#

EP smite with shriek will kill hordes and kill off other shit

small valve
#

So what you're telling me is stop trying to multitask penances... and keep scrier's gaze on my gunpsyker

marble crater
#

I multitask the EP, shield and damage aura penances on my purgatus build KEKW_ogryn

untold niche
#

this is the levelling build made by pygex

marble crater
#

loregryn saving for the future

untold niche
untold niche
#

i was underperforming so badly someone blocked me

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not my fault its a pea shooter

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it defo was not worth being able to quell slide / charge slide decently

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the thresholds (both damage and quell) are vastly different anyway

marble crater
#

I tried to use a low level trauma, blew myself up and then decided I didn't like the peril mechanic KEKW_ogryn

untold niche
#

goddam

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ll

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my first impression was

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"how can anyone explode"

small valve
#

This shit sucks

untold niche
#

i hate it when people do smite only

small valve
#

I hate smite

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I would much rather be using brain burst or assail

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I prefer brain burst

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I usually play psyker as vet but with better target elimination

untold niche
#

i take smite but never use it

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for the pathing

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sometimes just to fuck with the other guy

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i smite when he is smiting

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just for laughs

marble crater
#

Do they take double damage, or does one smite overwrite the other?

cinder moon
small valve
cinder moon
#

smite is for locking down mixed hordes and keeping things from getting out of hand

small valve
#

point is my teammates usually don't help

ornate hamlet
#

whats the best gun for leveling psyker again?

small valve
#

I like to use the revolver

thin finch
untold niche
untold niche
ornate hamlet
#

so which gun then

untold niche
#

im implying that for your ranged options while levelling, assail is better than any gun.

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assail is your grenade / blitz

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the one on the right

untold niche
thin finch
#

I have not seen a single assail psyker since the nerf

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Granted, I mostly play auric damnation ,so it might be the reason but damn they're rare

small valve
thin finch
fathom jay
#

It's my main, ya bunch of handsome devils

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Playing VT1 if anyone is feeling nostalgic

hot coral
#

Siblings; am I fabulous?

untold niche
#

hair no match i feel

hot coral
#

ur face no match! D:

marble crater
#

Looks good

marble crater
#

Hair and face update when, Fatshark?

ornate hamlet
#

Thats fast.

hot coral
#

That's crazy fast.

ornate hamlet
#

3 second to completely kill a bulwark with BB.

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Im going for the celerity stims from now on.

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lmao

fading river
#

Pretty good rolls for spitfire build?

rigid sky
fading river
#

Oh fuck

rigid sky
#

Change perks to Flak and whatever

fading river
#

Love to hear that

rigid sky
#

Crit Chance is what I prefer, unyielding also an option

fading river
#

Gotcha. Thank you my friend. Will run another for the monies

rigid sky
#

The only thing that would possibly make it better weirdly enough is lower warp resistance if you end up struggling to get good creeping flames

fading river
#

huh ok

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Does it have to do with passive %?

marble crater
#

Because building peril with purgatus takes a long time KEKW_ogryn

ornate hamlet
rigid sky
#

Idk how it really is tbh, just an observation I made that often I have to Shriek below 84% because my peril is just too low

ornate hamlet
untold niche
#

just quell bro or use melee

rigid sky
#

It's not such a huge deal to get smaller shrieks if you are purgatusing anyway though

ornate hamlet
#

which is why I was asking what gun

rigid sky
#

Try anything while levelling, but I favour the CIAG and Accatran Laspistol once you are at max.

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For guns anyway

marble crater
#

While leveling I also just used whatever the emperor gifts gave me

rigid sky
#

For staves, they all get a lot better at level 30 tbh

marble crater
#

No point in using dockets or whatever on a weapon you will outlevel after two missions

rigid sky
#

Getting a decent blue as a preview isn't a bad idea

ornate hamlet
#

guns are best at max level and not staves right

rigid sky
#

Staves are really good too

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Gun psyker is a bit of a weird thing, you're fragile as fuck but you are a damage machine vs everything

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Staff psykers tend to be very efficient at some threats, and somewhat weaker against others

echo turtle
rigid sky
#

But staff psykers also have infinite ammo, more diverse playstyles

echo turtle
#

With guns, DD is real real good, with staves smite is the way to go

rigid sky
#

I play all staves and also the CIAG.

ornate hamlet
#

Voidstrike surge with DD is good

ornate hamlet
rigid sky
#

DD good for voidstrike and guns yeah

echo turtle
#

I do smite in a creeping flames vent build, works amazingly. DD with CIAG

rigid sky
#

The other two are both usable for other builds

echo turtle
#

Yeah would be good for void too

untold niche
cinder moon
#

surge/smite with creeping flames vent is goated

rigid sky
#

Not having SG is missing all the fun of gunker though lol

ornate hamlet
echo turtle
rigid sky
#

Press F to enter God of Damage mode

thin finch
untold niche
echo turtle
rigid sky
#

Pick one to work with your ranged weapon

ornate hamlet
rigid sky
#

It clears trash fast enough with SG/DD up

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And it fucks Crushers up

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Real fast

echo turtle
rigid sky
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Which are gunker's only roadblock

cosmic sigil
#

revolvr psyker enters the chat

echo turtle
#

Slaugh/uncanny Illisi is just wild with DD and scriers

rigid sky
#

Illisi is the #2 melee for gunker imo

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But mine lacks uncanny so doesn't fuck Crushers up so well

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Yours probably does better

echo turtle
#

Aside from parry it does way more damage in any situation

Parry is great tho I won't argue thst

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Uncanny makes a huge difference on everything

rigid sky
#

Parry lmao

echo turtle
#

Oh I was thinking dclaw

rigid sky
#

Maccabian Duelling Sword I meanf

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Meant fuck tired

echo turtle
#

Ds4 is good, I like the horde clear available tho

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I use a ds4 with smite builds since horde clear is handled

ornate hamlet
#

which way should i go from here?

rigid sky
#

It's surprising how fast the horde clear is with the buffs up

ornate hamlet
#

oh how convenient, cant send images here!

echo turtle
#

Running gun and assail, I often need the sweeps

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Yeah maybe I should give it another try

ornate hamlet
#

are u fucking kidding me

rigid sky
rigid sky
echo turtle
#

I'll have to try it again

ornate hamlet
rigid sky
#

It's an antispam measure

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Once you turn red you can share images

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If you are trying to link a build, use gamelantern

echo turtle
#

Illisi gets a lot outta the gunker build, with the two abilities that strength warp attacks on crit and non warp kills

rigid sky
echo turtle
#

But tbh, I seldom do charge attacks so, maybe I'm not getting as much as I think

ornate hamlet
worn beacon
#

Saw this psyker winning pose and I think I've saw something familiar

echo turtle
#

I need to get blood thirsty on that to really make it pop

rigid sky
echo turtle
#

It does feel good though it's not always a kill

rigid sky
rigid sky
#

And you can back it up with DD assails

echo turtle
#

Yeah for crushers and maulers that ds4 is the real deal

rigid sky
#

That's actually a surprising amount of horde clear

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The moment I saw that I converted lol

echo turtle
#

True, assails clear good

rigid sky
#

All those things added together are more than enough

echo turtle
#

You running rampage on it for horde clear?

rigid sky
#

And how many missions wipe because you hit that one crusher blob

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I think it's shred uncanny

echo turtle
#

Tbh pretty seldom

rigid sky
#

It would probably be better with rampage over shred

echo turtle
#

I have a riposte uncanny that's near perfect iirc

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I also have a rampage uncanny

rigid sky
#

But I didn't put much time into making it

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I didn't like it until recently tbh

echo turtle
#

Maybe, shred it solid

rigid sky
#

Tried it on purgatus and preferred deimos

echo turtle
#

Rampage was the go to when it was bugged

rigid sky
#

Same on trauma

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Rampage is still better than it looks since it's power

echo turtle
#

Deimos is really good if you learn the H2 block push combo

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Very safe

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True, power = cleave

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And damage ofc

rigid sky
#

I like deimos for the other builds because... uh idk why really lol

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Just feels right i guess

echo turtle
#

It's fast and safe

rigid sky
#

Deflector is fun

queen fog
#

Big stab big damage

rigid sky
#

I gotta sleep lmao

echo turtle
#

Uncanny and slaught is my preference now

queen fog
#

What’s there not to love?

echo turtle
#

Before when they spawned a million gunners I was using deflector but it seems toned down now

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Cheers

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I'll give that ds4 a go for a few games on my gun build and see how she goes

ornate hamlet
#

it wont let me link my discord...

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wtf

marble crater
#

You can take a screenshot and share it

small valve
unique knot
#

Also If I could ask a follow up question to this if that’s ok with you, what type of knife did you use and what level of difficulty were you on to achieve the penance?

fast ivy
#

the pennance perilous focus is there a good build to go for it with

marble crater
#

Which one is that?

fast ivy
#

get 40 kills with a single sciers gaze activation

marble crater
#

I read some people do it while meleeing a horde

untold niche
#

hey sut

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i found another great monkey reaction gif

marble crater
#

Exploding barrel flashbacks

lethal lagoon
#

I feel like a huge portion(me included) uses that top.

tall mango
#

never used a trauma staff before, this good enough to upgrade?

lethal lagoon
#

I have a strong 80% blast radius only rule, but you should figure out whether you like the staff first

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I'd say that's good enough for your first staff

marble crater
#

Yeah

tall mango
#

Ill keep looking, ive got the ordos

marble crater
#

Famous last words salute

tall mango
#

wont hurt to upgrade for the blessings hunting at least

tall mango
#

wait

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even better!

lethal lagoon
#

Yep, I doubt you'll get a better roll

tall mango
#

My Beloved truly listened

lethal lagoon
#

At least not without a huge investment

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Don't count your chickens yet though

tall mango
#

yeah no low quell speed be dammed

marble crater
tall mango
#

alright now pray with me it doesnt get bricked lol

lethal lagoon
#

God can't help you now

#

Hadron is all

tall mango
#

my Beloved can

marble crater
#

You were saying

lethal lagoon
tall mango
#

hadron got hands

near drift
#

that's rough buddy

tall mango
#

WHAT THE FUCK

lethal lagoon
#

That's not horrific

marble crater
#

I mean, you can change run n gun to flurry, sprint to flak and use it, no?

lethal lagoon
# tall mango

Barrage to Nexus, ranged weak spot to flak or 5% crit, decent blaze staff to test out.

#

Two crits will kill all non-elites in this circle

untold niche
tall mango
#

is the other one not salvagable?

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i thought rending shock was decent

lethal lagoon
#

rending flurry is super mid

#

I have a BiS rending flurry and it's like categorically worse than my blaze trauma.

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I would say like 30% less overall damage.

tall mango
#

just upgrading staffs for the blessing at this point

#

you can get surge with trauma? thats goofy

lethal lagoon
#

Flak, 5% crit, Blazing Spirit, Nexus.

untold niche
lethal lagoon
#

GOOFY!?

tall mango
#

goofy as in i didnt know it could

lethal lagoon
#

There is nothing goofy about it

marble crater
lethal lagoon
#

The empror gave me a literally perfect one

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And I was like, holy crap.

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And then I was like

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holy crap

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Or rather, just crap.

marble crater
#

I'm still mad at myself for bricking a perfect trauma staff at the start, because I didn't know about blaze trauma throwing

tall mango
#

alright

lethal lagoon
#

I don't know if 5% crit will be a better test run of the staff or not.

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Flak is more important, but that extra blazing procs lets you get a feel for it

tall mango
#

well its already set in stone lol

lethal lagoon
#

I mean you could change it....

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But yeah it's fine either way lmao

tall mango
#

so i use this with true aim right?

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and scriers?

lethal lagoon
#

Oh god no

marble crater
#

If you want to blow up, yes

tall mango
lethal lagoon
#

Here's a very basic Trauma build with 3 free points

tall mango
#

Was mainly joke

#

god I wish i could have crit aura and the shriek

lethal lagoon
#

My personal pick is wildfire, 6 stacks, and quietitude.

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But it really doesn't matter.

marble crater
#

Soulstealer feels like a scam, I tried it and it didn't feel like it worked with trauma throwing

lethal lagoon
#

Keep in mind you need to peril edge, at least 60%, better if 80%, to get the full use out of blazing, so BM is bad

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EE or KD is also an option

#

Smite also directly reduces trauma damage, so BB is better for shriek spam.

#

That said, assial does cover some of the weaknesses/boring parts of the staff like dealing with a couple scattered ranged mobs

#

Just depends on playstyle

tall mango
#

nah fuck it, im hittin em with the boowomp beam

marble crater
#

Very fun

strong gulch
#

My lowest brain effort build is trauma + assail + DS 4.

It's not the most optimized, but it is very comfortable and has a lot of versality in play styles.

marble crater
#

I think it was you who gave me the idea to try this build

shy willow
#

Just tried trauma staff for the first time

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This is like that staff for sienna in vt2

#

Except better

#

Ridiculously better

radiant frigate
#

Yes

strong gulch
#

yis

radiant frigate
#

conflag except it does damage

strong gulch
#

plus no friendly fire

shy willow
#

I could destroy Abbadon with this staff

radiant frigate
#

and if you run blaze trauma it can graduate to coruscation levels

marble crater
#

Blaze trauma with friendly fire would be awesome for trolling

strong gulch
shy willow
#

what are the best blessings and perks for the trauma?

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I roled one with a rending shockwave 4

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and focused channelling

radiant frigate
#

flurry rending is an idea

marble crater
shy willow
#

bad to have focused channeling, I assume

marble crater
#

Yeah KEKW_ogryn

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But as Kat said, flurry rending is an option, the worse trauma option, but viable. Which perks do you have?

shy willow
#

max carapace

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had a groaner, that I rerolled to max flak

marble crater
#

That's great for rending trauma, congratz

shy willow
#

I guess I just put warp flurry on instead of focused and its perfect

#

that scab enemy, melee enemy maelstrom won't know what hit them,

marble crater
vestal haven
#

Any tip on how to do the cliffhanger penance?

#

I could only push 6. Isn't 2s a little bit extreme?

untold niche
#

there are a few maps with big ledges
Like the green map where you destroy the toxic sludge thing with interrogators

Or the map where there are two levels, enemies come from level 1, then the ledge are the "bridges" on level 2

I got the penance by just playing normally

marble crater
tall mango
#

i think it’s easier with shriek on the map with the extending platforms at the end

lethal lagoon
#

Hab Dreyko pipe with force sword push spam combined with shrieky weeky

small valve
#

i asked before I'm asking again do you guys think the loner is gay

echo turtle
#

The true reveal is that you the player, were gay all along

marble crater
#

All I know is that the female loner is cute as heck

strong gulch
#

@lethal lagoon New grey top goes well with the stripy pants. 👀

cinder moon
#

200 trauma staffs later and still no nexus 4

marble crater
#

Sad

kindred ivy
#

trauma who

#

cant listen behin my zapping

marble crater
vestal haven
strong gulch
#

most

marble crater
dusk void
marble crater
#

I tried all the shriek and force sword pushing places, didn't get it. Tried this one and first try done

#

Nexus on trauma for blaze trauma shenanigans

lethal lagoon
#

So that doesn't work

balmy kestrel
#

scribes gaze is so much fun

lethal lagoon
#

Scririr's gaze is great

potent echo
#

Subscriber gaze? It goes hard

ornate hamlet
#

SUSCRIBIRSE

shy willow
#

suscriber gaze

#

when the pysker wants to creep on Zola

ornate hamlet
marble crater
#

Zola? Pff, Hestia

ornate hamlet
#

Sah, I saw the loose cannon in the uhhh the uhhhhhh the grate thingy

lethal lagoon
#

I don't think I've ever spell scrier's gaze correctly in my entire life

#

spell...

marble crater
lethal lagoon
marble crater
#

Truly an incomparable mind

balmy kestrel
#

autocorrect is my worst enemy

#

scrier

#

there

lethal lagoon
#

I before E except after C

#

^ english

#

I feel like that rule is more wrong than right, why did they teach us that?

potent echo
#

Teach you what? KEKW_ogryn

#

I've never heard this e before c thing

lethal lagoon
#

It's an american thing we learn

#

Maybe I'm too

#

Like in elementary school or middle

#

I hope they stopped teaching it, confusing AF

#

"I before E, except after C" is a mnemonic rule of thumb for English spelling. If one is unsure whether a word is spelled with the digraph ⟨ei⟩ or ⟨ie⟩, the rhyme suggests that the correct order is ⟨ie⟩ unless the preceding letter is ⟨c⟩, in which case it may be ⟨ei⟩.
The rhyme is very well known; Edward Carney calls it "this supreme, and for ...

pearl lion
#

So Melk is always nice to my psyker, is he nice to you guys too, or is it something else?

#

He always talks shit to my zealot

lethal lagoon
#

Oh I thought you meant RNG wise lmao

#

I was about to say I've leveled alt psykers for extra melk roles, he's absolutely not nice to me.

pearl lion
#

Must be RNG or background related then

potent echo
#

Add some iec into my coffee whatthefuck_heresy

#

Oh except after C

#

This is crazy

pearl lion
#

As with most things, we can safely blame the Germans

#

and or, the French

small valve
small valve
strong gulch
lethal lagoon
#

Zealots only have sweatpants

#

I don't even care about the butt part, it's just weird all their pants look so casual

#

Like have some respect for the emperor

tall mango
#

just four more matches and then, penances fully completed

strong gulch
strong gulch
#

😣

lethal lagoon
strong gulch
lethal lagoon
#

The full set on the stripped pants is honestly hilarious

strong gulch
wind spruce
lethal lagoon
#

Man I need to rebuy some stripped gym pants for myself again

#

They work in real life too

wind spruce
#

(Becayse affect is also a noun, and effect a verb)

ornate hamlet
#

I'm envious of those pants. They'd complete my jesterish look of my psyker

lethal lagoon
#

Then again peg leg never came back

#

All we got was be a giant cookie for pirate week

cinder moon
#

kind of annoyed that i like this combo

lethal lagoon
#

That gives "Blown off the map by the first barrel" vibes.

cinder moon
#

it's my 5th build fit, which i normally use for testing/blowing up a lot when i play with my newb friend on <damn

lethal lagoon
#

I'm quite insightful

potent echo
#

Says the psyker with the metal blindfold

fresh reef
pearl lion
#

You know

strong gulch
#

Fatgrin

pearl lion
#

For in sight

ornate hamlet
#

But that ammo stat 😦

strange nova
#

Does Reality Anchor mean that scriers gaze lasts longer due to peril buildup being slower?

ornate hamlet
#

Easy way to find out is psykanium[sic]

strange nova
#

you right

lethal lagoon
strange nova
#

not even useful with a force sword for the perilous focus penance?

lethal lagoon
#

Oh for a penance?

#

No clue then.

devout belfry
lethal lagoon
#

That's the 40 kill one? I suppose it'll make it easier.

strange nova
#

its about the same

#

hm

lethal lagoon
#

It should be 14 vs 12

#

if I remember correctly

primal plume
#

We get surrounded
Crushers and Maulers all around us
Vet gets smashed
I start smiting
Other psyker and Ogryn doesnt take advantage of the fact that literally everything is stunned and continues to use flame staff on ogryns
Vet dies
Nice teamplay.

lethal lagoon
#

I've always been on the side that smite isn't a real support tool

#

It's not consistent and versus something like a crusher the damage is minimal, so you are effectively having 2 dead players at that point.

primal plume
lethal lagoon
#

Stunning reduces cleave and aoe, for example

#

You can be knocked out, your team of course has no idea when it'll end.

primal plume
#

Damage is minimal
Makes up for it by hard stunning everything it hits
"Not a support tool, btw"

lethal lagoon
#

And you are currently down a dps

#

This is a horde game

#

The answer to all problems is death

primal plume
#

Ability that can stun an entire Horde to give your team breathing room
"Not a support tool, btw"

lethal lagoon
#

You know what else gives breathing room?

#

Death

#

And lowering cleave and aoe damage is not "giving breathing room" the way you think it is

pearl lion
#

Stunning a dozen ragers that are closing on the team over the course of about 2 seconds
Not a support tool btw

primal plume
#

Tool that makes it easier to kill things when youre surrounded by 7 Crushers
"Not a support tool, btw"

lethal lagoon
primal plume
lethal lagoon
#

And then you blamed your team

pearl lion
primal plume
#

Next time ill warn everyone when the game spawns 7 crushers on us in an enclosed space

#

my bad

devout belfry
#

What's the difference between the rapier marks again?

lethal lagoon
#

mk4 pokey poke, does unreasonable damage.
mk5 move tech OP

devout belfry
#

About to roll a few hundred. I want to make sure I don't roll a crap one.

lethal lagoon
#

mk2 for a minority who love it despite all evidence to the contrary.

devout belfry
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Move tech? Slip n slide?

lethal lagoon
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Yes, it randomly has extra dodge distance

devout belfry
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How much less damage than the mk 4?

cinder moon
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mk2 is fun because you can horde clear with it and alt attack resets heavy combo, so you can h1-alt-h1-alt for consistent pokies

lethal lagoon
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There's more going on then what you are dealing with

cinder moon
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ds4 has the highest h1 by a long shot, though, like double or more the others'

primal plume
devout belfry
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Yep, that's the one.