#psyker-class
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i saw it being mentioned here once but i forgot about it
tbf its not a whole lot
I mean 90% of the time i either run momentum on zealot or play psyker so i really dont care about passive regen
but shit that would be good to know
Toughness regen curio?
Affects that passive regeneration too
I think it only affects the passive regenration from coherency, no?
Why go with that? You have plenty of toughness regeneration from the talent tree alone
I'm not using this, only class I use it on is ogryn
if you're under a lot of fire and getting flanked it can be the difference between half toughness and full toughness before getting pushed out
but that being said, yeah just crit lol
Just have the 4 +15 toughness boosts and have 17% max toughness curios and you’ll be fine, I guess. I suppose you can have one 30% toughness regeneration speed
Just don't have depleted toughness 
I’m thinking about running another toughness curious instead of a health curios. Would anyone advise against this?
I run 1 health 2 toughness if that helps
With my minors being +5 to hp and toughness, and just whatever i could find that would be useful, i think it is corruption resist, sniper resist, and a gunner resist
But i think psyker is in a danger zone unlike oggy and zealot where you can’t go 3 toughness curios unless you are realllly good
I highly suggest a +3 stamina curio, with kinectic deflection you can block forever
I don’t go deflector or kinetic deflection
though kinetic deflection alone is good nuff
And in DT if you spam block after stamina is broken you will still block
But it is based on what you are comfortable with and preference
i'm a toughness stan but there's probably some caution to be had about not taking a health curio
I just threw in my 2 cents from my psyker experience
I mean, I run 2 20% health curios with 17% toughness curio with 5% toughness with each curio and 5% max health. I feel like I’m already buff enough, so I guess I can be buffer
Yea i tried going 3 toughness on vet and psyker way back when grims were worth picking up and i was hitting fully corrupted 2 max hp left
Maybe take a corruption resistance for poxbursters
A good thing to keep in mind is most sources of toughness are % based
There isnt a lot of sources of HP but psyker especially has access to toughness regen that scales with the more toughness you have
Using venting shriek I have never had a need for +3 stam
though I will say +3 stam is wild
plague ogryn charge puts you up to like 43% peril from 0
instead of the 86 or so it normally does
Extra stamina has the chance to prevent situations where you would need the extra toughness in the first place, I like it for more blocking and sprinting
Not the best perks but it works with my build
robot gorilla line got updated to the current lore lmao
Fight a monstrosity with my chainsword. I mainly use my trauma staff for horde/spealists clearing
better than zero% cdr if you ask me
My chainsword for monstrosity damage for the 4% cdr
Damn, y’all really making me feel like a bum playing this game. I guess I’m not cut out for this. Later y’all 👋
no im legit asking why CDR is linked to chainsword
I mean for sure you have a reason that you say that
Hold on, I thought it was the combat ability. Wth is CDR? I’m still getting used to the acronyms that you guys use in this chat
yeah it is combat ability, you used CDR here ^ to reference the curio perk 4% Combat Ability Regeneration
Im asking what that has got to do with chainsword (because you said you used chainsword for the 4% cdr in replied message)
I thought it was helpful in fighting monstrosities, but I guess I can replace that perk with a toughness regeneration/health perk
If you're going for combat ability cooldown you tend to go all in on it with seer's presence
ah i think just your wording in replied message confused me
I mean it can be, its just 4% of 30 seconds is 1.2 seconds
full CDR (12%) is 3.6 seconds
if i was you i would prob change it to HP since you are runnign HP curios ( i feel like this would stack better for what you run than 1.2 seconds of VS)
Assuming you are running VS of course
The sprint efficiency just really doesn't make sense to me on psyker since you are a ranged class.
Even on gunker where you need to use melee alot you will still assail weave
Hey Psykers!
I think if you're using DS4 sprint efficiency is fine
wouldnt you slide anyway, meaning the sprint efficiency useless
Question, do any of you know if defy fate penance supposed to be continuously or you can screw it up and still increase the points for it?
because after your run you wouldn't block / push
defy fate is this one
hmm. True. You'd want +3 stam and stam regeneration not efficiency
you right
i'm unsure if you're supposed to maintain it for that long or you just have to do it in total
i don't think you even need any stam (purely context of ds4) since even on zero stam if you slide propelry you slide at full speed
Thanks for your input 😊 👍, but I am using a trauma staff with assail. So I guess more health and toughness will just about do it
Yeah but if you don't slide in the right rhythm you lose momentum anyways
Iunno
I don't hate it
i went to psk just to practice sliding on zero stam while i was playing 6 stam vet
xD
vet's regen rate is awful
nah its not about the regen
doesn't vet receive more damage if they're sprinting?
This was before they patched it
You couldn't slide at full speed on vet because you wouldn't regen stamina lol
that's 30 minutes so i assume it's accumulative
i got defy fate and i can assure you that i don't think i've ever stayed at 15 stacks for more than a minute at a time
so probably cumulative
at zero stamina, how it works is this:
from not sprinting, in a short time you go to max speed, then afterward you very quickly drop speed due to zero stam (vets zero stam run speed is 50%, zealot is 75%)
so you time it properly you always at (near) full slide speed
It's in total yes, not 30 minutes in a row
yes. and I'm saying before they gave vet a stam buff he couldn't do that
how come?
took longer to start stamina regen
wait but stamina regen no link to this
because even at zero stamina you would reach full run speed, just that it will go down.
or are you saying at zero stamina you would not reach full run speed
or are you saying at zero stamina you would not reach full run speed
ye
Cause you can mimic having stamina for a while if you slide properly
but vet could not
you couldn't slide at full speed but you have plenty of speed even at zero stam with the slowest weapons
yeah it was dumb lmao
and you always reset back to your full sprint speed when entering a sprint
even at zero stamina
after which it slowly decays to your "proper" speed
wait then how come you can't slide at full speed
In total. As long as 15 stacks or over it starts counting.
i remember thsi waht you told me too
it does decay so your sprint speed will inevitably decay by a slight amount
It finishes counting once you drop to below 15 stacks and update the progress.
so in that sense it is not your "full" speed
ca't you just slide the momment you are at full speed
ye but that's not optimal
how come?
cuz there's a short amount of time after a slide where you stand up and your movement slows down heavily for a short instant
ya
so how does that affect sliding at full speed
like why that make slide at full speed not optimal
because that still happen when you don't slide at full speed right
yeah it's just balancing the frequency of slides and how long you maintain the benefit of resetting your sprint speed
because for zealot, it's basically not worth it because you maintain 75% of your sprint bonus at zero samina
so you mean not worth to do max speed slide because you keep getting the heavy slow?
the slide tech works best on carrying objective @spice veldt
i think while carrying no slow
i outran zombies
xD
zero stamina
was quite funny
yeah you slide faster than walking/running for some reason
they broke that during the update where they patched out some movement tech with the duelling sword and others
and just never fixed it i guess
doesn't ds4 slide attack tech still exist
light is the uppercut swing?
yeah i forget if it was on any particular mark but it was there
whats everyone favorite dueling sword?
mk4 for optimality reasons
Mk4 because that's the only one I tried so far 
if it isnt DS4 you're objectively incorrect
and what stas? do i need high Finesse?
Yes
I still like mobility to outrun the roughnecks
just use a dagger in that case 
Nah mk5 has more swag and is faster.
please tell me how bad this is
not ideal, but you can work with it
someone just tell me what blessing to throw on this bad boy
I'd put uncanny over precog and maniac over groaners damage.
^
For mutie.
Tag it a few times with staff range attack. Your heavy 1 poke would do like 90% damage to it without any buff.
mutants are a menace and killing them fast is good
If someone took a few stray shots or you have high peril/warp charges etc it's ez 1 shot.
How are people grinding the Auric Storm Survivor title? Are y yall solo queueing and hoping to god or forming a team here and grinding?
I'mma be real with you for the maelstrom title I just quit out of the lobby if I was downed and looked like I wasn't going to get revived
I only had to do it once but still doing pub lobbies for it, I ain't playing fair

time for solo runs
how the hell am i supposed to kill 999 trillion elites
What's the issue?
I mean I can shred with the DS4
I just Love the H2 too much lol
Knocking over stuff with heavy 2 is just solid as hell
Fair, I like the ds4 because I can just poke
still only 25% there 💀
Quell while dodging, don't get super left behind 😄
someone has to find the damn totems
Wait, that works???
One of the things that's too hard for me to do on controller 
lmao skill issue 

I do an enhanced version of that tech too
I swap to sword, THEN slide, THEN swap to staff, then quell, THEN BACK TO SWORD
auric maels are infested with disconnecting babies now
Elite series 2 has backpedaled that fix this
Anything for that sweet golden title
that sweet A.S.S.
Elite series 2 also has countless complaints about the quality, I'm not touching that. I got a Gamesir G7 SE instead, much more affordable and I'm very happy with it
If you can't let everyone else know you're an A.S.S. man what's even the point of playing
idk pressing 7 different buttons at the same time might be easier on a controller
one dude who posted his gameplay here was pretty fucking impressive with the voidstrike dodge sliding backwards while quell cancelling
theres too many build guides and not enough move tech guides 😭
total hound death
dat pretty easy
for me i have slide on mouse button, dodge as shift and quell on spacebar
i guess it has to do with your bindings as well
You can also change presets
Default
how come you get counter for how many enemies
Blitz enjoyer
which one?
Literally just a hound from the warp 
only in psk?
or normal game
what is the point of purgation staff's LMB?
too
normal games as well
much higher stagger
like, you can stunlock ragers with it
Push bursters
apart from that though you wanna just use full charge rmb for the damage ramp up
I don't doubt it's possible, but I tried and it's too much in some scenarios. I can dodge backwards and quell though 
still cant get quell cancelling to work correctly
If you're in a close range oh-shit scenario you can lmb to inflict a HEAVY stagger
elaborate. what is quell cancelling
after your rmb
there is a bit of animation dela
you can cancel it by quelling
it should be in the guide
surge's version is that you swap to blitz
agent has a video on the surge version
Oh, I see. seems simple enough
you do it on correct timing you can rapid fire say voidstrike rmb
last time people used it for lmb but they buffed lmb from what i heard
Surge is blitz cancel not quell cancel.
I know you can do it with purg staff
There is too much canceling 
so if you have flurry and you do this it actually shoots pretty fast
But of course you can quell cancel with surge left click.
but i got too lazy :p
Pretty sure I do this by habit as it is
the point is that you shoot --> quell for like 0.2 second --> as soon as you see the quell animatin (hand wave) you stop quell) then get to shoot again
so you save a very small amount of time
on what staff?
Quell cancel and blitz cancel showcase
purgatus' works differently
Why don't you go and cancel your plans to learn quell cancel


I have 6 fingers on each hand.
i don't like to quell cancel because it lows you down as well
Ez tech
My plans involve some annoying penances, so maybe
but blitz cancel i feel is worth if you are running surge
Not if I get CTS 
I tend to surge while dodging forward and swap to sword
whats CTS
Carpal tunnel syndrome 
god blast you
Nah that's for the knife mains with all the attack speed boosts mashing 100 clicks every 10 seconds
okay it is time I retire for 14 hours
im goong to become knife main >:O
grinding for cknife rn
I have a condition that makes my joints hurt fuck the DS and the knife
play ogryn
No more joint pain
don't even have to dodge
wrist stretches help a lot
See into your future
Learn Master of Puppets on guitar, forget that your wrist exists
not my wrists. finger joints
i recommend you get this keyboard
You can change the elevation all
🤔 maybe finger training brands would help
you mean i going become wonder woman :OOO
Step 1: get a guitar 
Keyboard not the problem, clicking finger is the problem on mouse

have you tried the standing mouse
There's no amount of braces or preventatives that can help it because I have fibromyalgia and it's a shit tier disease 
9 Views. Watch shitty macro test 2 and millions of other Warhammer 40,000: Darktide videos on Medal, the #1 Game Clip Platform.
Looks... interesting
smh macros
I've heard about that, looks wildly uncomfortable
i feel it looks unorthodox rather than uncomfortable
your natural state of wrist is facing inwards
Not to mention I use my wrist as an anchor point, which doesn't seem possible with that mouse
not behind
your palm being on the same plane as the arm is actually the state in which you have the most grip alongside having your arm in a 90º angle ☝️ 
that too complex me me no understand
does the blessing "precognition" give 120% damage if the strike is a crit AND a weakspot hit?
If your palm is on a different plane from the rest of your body you have bigger problems 
Something of the sort, yeah
It's probably some lower number due to math formulas but yeah more or less
crit and weakspot hit is tied to finese modifier, which is what the blessing inreases
ah thanks
yeah but it could have worked that only 1 of the 60% could proc at a time
it wouldn't "1" of the 60% is what i am saying
like
its kind of backwards i feel
because e.g. you score a headshot and a crit right, the game will see how much is your finese.
then since finese is increased by 60%...
rather than, oh, this is a "finese" hit, then it checks if its headshot or crit
all depends on how the minds of the devs work
Do you think for a scriers gaze crit focus that riposte/shred DS4 is overkill? Should I swap one out or nah?
which is why i thought i would ask lol
I personally run rampage and riposte/shred
+60% finesse is +60% crit weakspot unfortunately
uncanny is never bad
Oh right, crit weakspot is its own modifier
though, +60% crit damage and +60% weakspot damage given separately would indeed be +120% crit weakspot damage
e.g., duellist
yee
well, overall it's still a very fat number
I never seemed to get rampage to proc that often with DS4 even in dense hordes
After a not-so-recent balance patch, it's meant to proc with any light attack against poxwalkers and groaners
If anything, it's kind of piss easy to proc
it used to only be the push attack
like even with it procced only the push attack could hit three targets lol
now its a power bonus so its a lot more consistent
Hmm okay I'll probably give it a shot again
The light attack cleave is 4.5 now
It'd be either that or uncanny
And if memory doesn't fail me, tier 3 rampage gets you just a tiny bit short of 6 cleave
Which isn't a problem for groaners, but it prevents you from cleaving a fourth poxwalker
Since the cleave limit for that is 6
And you get 5.9something
But I could very well be misremembering and maybe it's rounded up
then yeah uncanny and rampage would be my selection for ds

even "mostly melee" doesn't mean you won't get ganked by an entire firing squad of snipers in the wrong place... learned that the hard way yesterday
at least you have toughness gen???
Poke his eyes with it
Annoy him until he goes home
building an assail psyker, any recommendations for keystone?
Depends on your ranged
I run Assail with Voidstrike or guns and both of those like DD
I see.
I was thinking trauma force staff
so I can take out or CC groups of maulers and crushers
I've only really used brain burst and the occasional smite before
don't play that much psyker, so mine is a tad undergeared
Trauma is fun, left keystone is fun if you want to use staff and shriek more, middle for when you want to use assail more as well, imo. Right is also good with assail
After I learned damaging a marked enemy resets DD's timer, my life got much better
I still loathe the targeting system, but at least it's not a rush to kill anymore
Blaze trauma with DD, should be easy to damage the blue man with the soulblaze, right? 
The targeting system for DD feels worse after the update, targeting mobs super far behind walls
never try to get any zealot penances
48/60
actively try to get psyker penances
50/60
@lethal lagoon I will take that emote reaction as a "don't do this" 
Psyker is clearly the super high skill class

🤔 i have like 2x more playtime too
Hmm
hell yeah
You don't make great use of the buff though
thats my swords brother
You'd have the crit rate which isn't bad, but not really any weakspot synergy and iirc a low actual crit multiplier
what are the odds of that
Imo it's warp siphon or empowered psionics for Trauma
If you use bubble I'd go EP
If Shriek probably WS, or maybe EP too
let's see if Hadron blesses my sword as well later
its got deflector thats 1/4
Elites isn't bad either iirc
@rigid sky was just a thought, possibly for the penance if nothing else, I do like more shrieks that's why I usually run charges
Idk what the penance is tbh lol
Haven't had much chance to play since the patch
Most I've done is give my veteran a less cringe name
And waste dockets on bad rashad rolls
There is a DD penance to keep max stacks, if trauma shockwave can refresh the timer that would make it easier to get, worth a thought
You'll get it easier with voidstrike or a good decently accurate gun tbh
They're quite well optimised for hitting blue bois
Trauma is range limited
(Mostly)
Use the penance as a sweetener to build a good Voidstrike thenb:D
It's fine, the projectile is the size of a bowling ball
Assail kills laterally moving targets for you
Voidstrike kills people running straight at you, or hanging back shooting
And Shriek kills, um, everything
It does, shriek is love, I enjoy it even more with the female loner voice now
cower, plead, beg :)
Only psyker voice I don't like at all is the female seer
The voice actress did a great job with those lines
i love the new lines for all of em tbh
they should just keep doing story telling that way
I might be basic but I really love the professional's delivery lines for things like shriek
not the male one as much but
i love the schizo ones most
Does anyone get any value from raking fire aside from BoN kills, got a columnus drop with that and dumdum
imo its better than the other options
fire frenzy and spitting fire have an extremely low range raking is more reliable
That's fair since it's not range locked, it was probably gonna be either speedloader or death spitter as the other so I'll just stick with raking then
post the gun
I would but I'm not at home rn
Less reliable but still really good imo
well caig guy can prolly give you a better answer
i have one with a free blessing slot for zealot and ive been looking
i usually only proc deathspitter like 3 times per game
maybe its better on psyker idk
I'm fairly sure i get more use out of fire frenzy than i would get out of raking fire
In fact i'd take stripped down or hit&run over raking fire
whats stripped down again?
My crackhead psyker using scriers and guns is already up close most of the time anyways
ranged immunity on close kill
i have deathspitter 4 fire frenzy 4 on my zealot braced autogun and it goes from plink plink to a killing machine one second after i start shooting
braced guns are stupid
+50% damage from fire frenzy is great to have in an emergency even as a psyker imo
If you have dumdum anyways in particular, it's also Close Damage
About 15m iirc
I usually play surge psyker so anything more than 25m away never existed for me anyways
I know the last time i tested (ages ago) it was 15m, i'll go test again right now
Weird, I haven’t really had any issues
Man I am far from the best gunker lol, I just talk about it a lot
And I just follow the wisdom of others really
Dumdum because it stacks so easily and is a lot of power, fixed.
Second can be deathspitter, fire frenzy, or raking fire for the most part (raking fire is antiboss and probably won't be active most of the time)
(But the others all stack quite slowly for what they are too, they're all less important than the perks imo)
Pygex is a way better gunker than me
ah yes the guy who posts once a month to correct one person yeah we can totally ask him
I like sustain fire as 2nd blessing.
For real? I don't hear anyone ever talk about it, and it sounds on paper bad for high fire rate guns
Then you are one of the lucky ones, unfortunately not everyone is 
59.815/150.000 for the shield 
rekt, sentenced to 10 years shield use
remember to leave the mission as soon as you get it so you're not forced to play it any second longer
What do you guys think of BB if you can double stack your buffs for speed on using your "F" ability?
Not a good time, that maelstrom?
I think that's a lot better than the slow default charge speed 
holy shit
why did i not remember the wall stacks
🤔 does the wall have higher hp?
That's hit and run. Stripped down is immunity if sprinting above 50% stam
Yes!
i can use brain rupture to do the penances who say brain burst ?
ye
thx o7
sorry i only think about killing
fuck can't argue with that
secret forbidden headsplosion tech
Um, where are them clothes though?
The blunts need clothes
I donno.
If you double stack the walls back to back you'll have more wall EHP for sure 😛
You can cheese it in range scab only maelstrom.
So I started the game as a vet a couple weeks ago. And, now I'm trying to level up my other character classes and I'm struggling with my psyker class. I'm lvl 11 rn and I keep dying multiple times per missions on uprising. Can anyone help me out with class build strategy or something? Thx
add a speed stim onto that
im curious
Assail is your best friend as psyker
While leveling
Maybe something like this, and avoid the staves for now, they are worse than guns in the low levels
@marble crater yeah that's pretty much where my build is at rn
What do you die to, melee or ranged?
Melee just when I get mauled by a group of enemy's
But I mostly just play with randoms on quick play and most of the time they aren't looking for diamante or plasteel and I am
Try an illisi force sword, if you don't already and then it comes down to dodging, blocking
Without toughness psyker dies in like two hits to poxwalkers 
Assail alone will carry games until lvl 30
And can carry them then as well, I like my trauma with EP assail and shriek the more I play it 
Yeah so I'm working my way down the talent tree to venting shriek from assail

I guess I just have to change my playstyle as from when I was a vet ya know?
Yeah, we don't have the oh shit button that is shout
We have the "ohno, brain hurty" and then explode button
No doubt
Psyker toughness comes from managing peril mostly
"Oh shit this is my shield load out"
Yeah I'm 2 points away from shriek and I think I'll be better off once I get it
god I hate smite

It's so mid
If it actually KILLED some of the enemies you stun maybe it would be good but it's just a worse version of Assail
Use EP smite with shriek to kill ragers
Half the time my teammates don't even shoot at the crusher I'm stunning
Then I reach 100% peril and get my head caved in by a big ugly fucker with a rebar club like it's fallout new vegas

EP smite with shriek will kill hordes and kill off other shit
So what you're telling me is stop trying to multitask penances... and keep scrier's gaze on my gunpsyker
I multitask the EP, shield and damage aura penances on my purgatus build 
psyker levelling is a pianful journey unless you run assail
this is the levelling build made by pygex
saving for the future
also don't bother plasteel farming as non level 30 psyker
just push levels
imagine, i started using voidstrike exclusively as soon as i could buy it
i was underperforming so badly someone blocked me
not my fault its a pea shooter
it defo was not worth being able to quell slide / charge slide decently
the thresholds (both damage and quell) are vastly different anyway
I tried to use a low level trauma, blew myself up and then decided I didn't like the peril mechanic 
This shit sucks
good luck playing (imo) the most unfun build to play and play with
i hate it when people do smite only
I hate smite
I would much rather be using brain burst or assail
I prefer brain burst
I usually play psyker as vet but with better target elimination
i take smite but never use it
for the pathing
sometimes just to fuck with the other guy
i smite when he is smiting
just for laughs
Do they take double damage, or does one smite overwrite the other?
wrong use of smite if it's a single crusher. just surge it/use your melee
It's usually more than just a crusher
smite is for locking down mixed hordes and keeping things from getting out of hand
point is my teammates usually don't help
whats the best gun for leveling psyker again?
I like to use the revolver
I think you can also spike yourself to trigger it fatser
smite does pitiful damage (at least without EP) so not like it matters xd
assail
so which gun then
im implying that for your ranged options while levelling, assail is better than any gun.
assail is your grenade / blitz
the one on the right
^ levelling build
I have not seen a single assail psyker since the nerf
Granted, I mostly play auric damnation ,so it might be the reason but damn they're rare
I use assail a lot, it's still good
I'm trying stuff with the DD update so I've been trying to use it and it works indeed, but I see many many smite and BB psyker these day
Siblings; am I fabulous?
hair no match i feel
ur face no match! D:
Looks good
Hair and face update when, Fatshark?
Thats fast.
That's crazy fast.
3 second to completely kill a bulwark with BB.
Im going for the celerity stims from now on.
lmao
Pretty good rolls for spitfire build?
Perfect basically
Oh fuck
Change perks to Flak and whatever
Love to hear that
Crit Chance is what I prefer, unyielding also an option
Gotcha. Thank you my friend. Will run another for the monies
The only thing that would possibly make it better weirdly enough is lower warp resistance if you end up struggling to get good creeping flames
Because building peril with purgatus takes a long time 
pretty fun for funsies.
Idk how it really is tbh, just an observation I made that often I have to Shriek below 84% because my peril is just too low
yeah but i cant just use only assail, I have to switch off aand use other stuff
ahh fair
just quell bro or use melee
It's not such a huge deal to get smaller shrieks if you are purgatusing anyway though
i have 2 slots to use. a melee, gun and my special ability (assail)
which is why I was asking what gun
Try anything while levelling, but I favour the CIAG and Accatran Laspistol once you are at max.
For guns anyway
While leveling I also just used whatever the emperor gifts gave me
For staves, they all get a lot better at level 30 tbh
No point in using dockets or whatever on a weapon you will outlevel after two missions
I'd buy stuff from the hourly store if you're interested in trying it tbh
Getting a decent blue as a preview isn't a bad idea
guns are best at max level and not staves right
Different playstyles really.
Staves are really good too
Gun psyker is a bit of a weird thing, you're fragile as fuck but you are a damage machine vs everything
Staff psykers tend to be very efficient at some threats, and somewhat weaker against others
DD absolutely crushed, but smite is really good too
But staff psykers also have infinite ammo, more diverse playstyles
With guns, DD is real real good, with staves smite is the way to go
I play all staves and also the CIAG.
Voidstrike surge with DD is good
id prefer a staff since I play veteran to use a gun. What ability do max level psyker usually spec into? I liked the purple lightning thing
DD good for voidstrike and guns yeah
I do smite in a creeping flames vent build, works amazingly. DD with CIAG
The other two are both usable for other builds
Yeah would be good for void too
using staffs while levelling is a bad idea
surge/smite with creeping flames vent is goated
Not having SG is missing all the fun of gunker though lol
im not, using gun
Yeah, purge is fine I would bet, but guns work real good
Press F to enter God of Damage mode
All blitzes good
at least picking the 25 stack is worth it now unlike before
i like revolver mainly, for levelling
Scriers and CIAG with DD feels incredible. Also Illisi with those is magical
Pick one to work with your ranged weapon
DS4 is even better imo
im using accatran mk2 heavy las pistol
It's real good, I agree
I found the illisi has way more killing power
Which are gunker's only roadblock
revolvr psyker enters the chat
Slaugh/uncanny Illisi is just wild with DD and scriers
Illisi is the #2 melee for gunker imo
But mine lacks uncanny so doesn't fuck Crushers up so well
Yours probably does better
Aside from parry it does way more damage in any situation
Parry is great tho I won't argue thst
Uncanny makes a huge difference on everything
DS4 doesn't have larry
Parry lmao
Oh I was thinking dclaw
Ds4 is good, I like the horde clear available tho
I use a ds4 with smite builds since horde clear is handled
which way should i go from here?
It's surprising how fast the horde clear is with the buffs up
oh how convenient, cant send images here!
Running gun and assail, I often need the sweeps
Yeah maybe I should give it another try
are u fucking kidding me
Light attacks are gud for horde
You gotta talk a bit more
I'll have to try it again
wow
It's an antispam measure
Once you turn red you can share images
If you are trying to link a build, use gamelantern
Illisi gets a lot outta the gunker build, with the two abilities that strength warp attacks on crit and non warp kills
But tbh, I seldom do charge attacks so, maybe I'm not getting as much as I think
do i have to join that discord
Saw this psyker winning pose and I think I've saw something familiar
I need to get blood thirsty on that to really make it pop
On the other hand, killing Mutants with a horizontal is a real feeling of power
It does feel good though it's not always a kill
Go to the link I sent, it's just a build sharing thingy
On the other hand, DS4 2-taps Crushers iirc and it kills hordes fast enough under buffs to reliably trigger praise lines
And you can back it up with DD assails
Yeah for crushers and maulers that ds4 is the real deal
That's actually a surprising amount of horde clear
The moment I saw that I converted lol
True, assails clear good
All those things added together are more than enough
You running rampage on it for horde clear?
And how many missions wipe because you hit that one crusher blob
I think it's shred uncanny
Tbh pretty seldom
It would probably be better with rampage over shred
Maybe, shred it solid
Tried it on purgatus and preferred deimos
Rampage was the go to when it was bugged
Deimos is really good if you learn the H2 block push combo
Very safe
True, power = cleave
And damage ofc
I like deimos for the other builds because... uh idk why really lol
Just feels right i guess
It's fast and safe
Deflector is fun
Big stab big damage
I gotta sleep lmao
Uncanny and slaught is my preference now
What’s there not to love?
Before when they spawned a million gunners I was using deflector but it seems toned down now
Cheers
I'll give that ds4 a go for a few games on my gun build and see how she goes
You can take a screenshot and share it
pretty fabulous
Also If I could ask a follow up question to this if that’s ok with you, what type of knife did you use and what level of difficulty were you on to achieve the penance?
the pennance perilous focus is there a good build to go for it with
Which one is that?
get 40 kills with a single sciers gaze activation
I read some people do it while meleeing a horde
Exploding barrel flashbacks
Is the top good, or is most psyker armor just mid?
I feel like a huge portion(me included) uses that top.
never used a trauma staff before, this good enough to upgrade?
I have a strong 80% blast radius only rule, but you should figure out whether you like the staff first
I'd say that's good enough for your first staff
Yeah
Ill keep looking, ive got the ordos
Famous last words 
wont hurt to upgrade for the blessings hunting at least
Yep, I doubt you'll get a better roll
My Beloved truly listened
yeah no low quell speed be dammed
99% of Trauma crafters stop before getting their god roll
alright now pray with me it doesnt get bricked lol
You were saying
hadron got hands
that's rough buddy
That's not horrific
I mean, you can change run n gun to flurry, sprint to flak and use it, no?
Barrage to Nexus, ranged weak spot to flak or 5% crit, decent blaze staff to test out.
Two crits will kill all non-elites in this circle
its like a well fit leather jacket
I use the red two tubes one though, thankfully most other peepo don't use it
rending flurry is super mid
I have a BiS rending flurry and it's like categorically worse than my blaze trauma.
I would say like 30% less overall damage.
just upgrading staffs for the blessing at this point
you can get surge with trauma? thats goofy
Flak, 5% crit, Blazing Spirit, Nexus.
wouldnt rending trauma be easier to build though
GOOFY!?
I also have a really nice one that I never use, but I will be damned if I didn't craft it 
The empror gave me a literally perfect one
And I was like, holy crap.
And then I was like
holy crap
Or rather, just crap.

I'm still mad at myself for bricking a perfect trauma staff at the start, because I didn't know about blaze trauma 
alright
I don't know if 5% crit will be a better test run of the staff or not.
Flak is more important, but that extra blazing procs lets you get a feel for it
well its already set in stone lol
Oh god no
If you want to blow up, yes

Here's a very basic Trauma build with 3 free points
My personal pick is wildfire, 6 stacks, and quietitude.
But it really doesn't matter.
Soulstealer feels like a scam, I tried it and it didn't feel like it worked with trauma 
Keep in mind you need to peril edge, at least 60%, better if 80%, to get the full use out of blazing, so BM is bad
EE or KD is also an option
Smite also directly reduces trauma damage, so BB is better for shriek spam.
That said, assial does cover some of the weaknesses/boring parts of the staff like dealing with a couple scattered ranged mobs
Just depends on playstyle
nah fuck it, im hittin em with the boowomp beam
Very fun
My lowest brain effort build is trauma + assail + DS 4.
It's not the most optimized, but it is very comfortable and has a lot of versality in play styles.
I think it was you who gave me the idea to try this build
Just tried trauma staff for the first time
This is like that staff for sienna in vt2
Except better
Ridiculously better
Yes
yis
conflag except it does damage
plus no friendly fire
I could destroy Abbadon with this staff
and if you run blaze trauma it can graduate to coruscation levels
Blaze trauma with friendly fire would be awesome for trolling

what are the best blessings and perks for the trauma?
I roled one with a rending shockwave 4
and focused channelling
flurry rending is an idea
I'm so sorry
bad to have focused channeling, I assume
Yeah 
But as Kat said, flurry rending is an option, the worse trauma option, but viable. Which perks do you have?
That's great for rending trauma, congratz
I guess I just put warp flurry on instead of focused and its perfect
that scab enemy, melee enemy maelstrom won't know what hit them,

Any tip on how to do the cliffhanger penance?
I could only push 6. Isn't 2s a little bit extreme?
there are a few maps with big ledges
Like the green map where you destroy the toxic sludge thing with interrogators
Or the map where there are two levels, enemies come from level 1, then the ledge are the "bridges" on level 2
I got the penance by just playing normally
I still swear by this #psyker-class message
This is the psyker penance where you have to knock some enemies off of a ledge. Did not expect to get it that easily. I guess the enemies jumped off on their own and my smite killed them while they were doing it.
i think it’s easier with shriek on the map with the extending platforms at the end
Hab Dreyko pipe with force sword push spam combined with shrieky weeky
i asked before I'm asking again do you guys think the loner is gay
The true reveal is that you the player, were gay all along
All I know is that the female loner is cute as heck
@lethal lagoon New grey top goes well with the stripy pants. 👀
200 trauma staffs later and still no nexus 4
Sad
You just bought everything, huh?
What did he do here? I don't see them falling.
The enemies there climb up, I guess they fall down if they get zapped while doing that
Why Nexus on trauma?
I tried all the shriek and force sword pushing places, didn't get it. Tried this one and first try done
Nexus on trauma for blaze trauma shenanigans
The secret of the stripy pants is that they are the best butt pants
So that doesn't work
scribes gaze is so much fun
Scririr's gaze is great
Subscriber gaze? It goes hard
SUSCRIBIRSE

Zola? Pff, Hestia
Sah, I saw the loose cannon in the uhhh the uhhhhhh the grate thingy
I don't think I've ever spell scrier's gaze correctly in my entire life
spell...



Truly an incomparable mind
I before E except after C

^ english
I feel like that rule is more wrong than right, why did they teach us that?
It's an american thing we learn
Maybe I'm too

Like in elementary school or middle
I hope they stopped teaching it, confusing AF
"I before E, except after C" is a mnemonic rule of thumb for English spelling. If one is unsure whether a word is spelled with the digraph ⟨ei⟩ or ⟨ie⟩, the rhyme suggests that the correct order is ⟨ie⟩ unless the preceding letter is ⟨c⟩, in which case it may be ⟨ei⟩.
The rhyme is very well known; Edward Carney calls it "this supreme, and for ...
So Melk is always nice to my psyker, is he nice to you guys too, or is it something else?
He always talks shit to my zealot
Oh I thought you meant RNG wise lmao
I was about to say I've leveled alt psykers for extra melk roles, he's absolutely not nice to me.
I got taught this in New Zealand, but it literally went I before E except after C, but there are exceptions
Must be RNG or background related then
I mean you right
Notice if you will that there is both a german and french psyker
Color wise it does, BUTT you are right. Best butt pants. I wish peg leg has better butt.
Zealots only have sweatpants

I don't even care about the butt part, it's just weird all their pants look so casual
Like have some respect for the emperor
just four more matches and then, penances fully completed
righteous jammies

😣

😭
The full set on the stripped pants is honestly hilarious
They should also stop teaching that affect and effect are a verb and noun, respectively
Man I need to rebuy some stripped gym pants for myself again
They work in real life too
(Becayse affect is also a noun, and effect a verb)
I'm envious of those pants. They'd complete my jesterish look of my psyker
I haven't seen them in the store in forever, so surely they are due

Then again peg leg never came back

All we got was be a giant cookie for pirate week
kind of annoyed that i like this combo
it's my 5th build fit, which i normally use for testing/blowing up a lot when i play with my newb friend on <damn
Says the psyker with the metal blindfold
Community ❤️
iirc, Mk 3 and low int malice lol
It's mirrored on the inside
You know
Fatgrin
For in sight
But that ammo stat 😦
Does Reality Anchor mean that scriers gaze lasts longer due to peril buildup being slower?
Easy way to find out is psykanium[sic]
you right
Yes, but it's fairly useless atm unless you are memeing with a staff.
not even useful with a force sword for the perilous focus penance?
You look like a hobbit.
That's the 40 kill one? I suppose it'll make it easier.
We get surrounded
Crushers and Maulers all around us
Vet gets smashed
I start smiting
Other psyker and Ogryn doesnt take advantage of the fact that literally everything is stunned and continues to use flame staff on ogryns
Vet dies
Nice teamplay.
I've always been on the side that smite isn't a real support tool
It's not consistent and versus something like a crusher the damage is minimal, so you are effectively having 2 dead players at that point.
Can stun an entire horde including everything except non-bosses
"Not a support tool, btw"
Stunning reduces cleave and aoe, for example
You can be knocked out, your team of course has no idea when it'll end.
Damage is minimal
Makes up for it by hard stunning everything it hits
"Not a support tool, btw"
And you are currently down a dps
This is a horde game
The answer to all problems is death
Ability that can stun an entire Horde to give your team breathing room
"Not a support tool, btw"
You know what else gives breathing room?
Death
And lowering cleave and aoe damage is not "giving breathing room" the way you think it is
Stunning a dozen ragers that are closing on the team over the course of about 2 seconds
Not a support tool btw
Tool that makes it easier to kill things when youre surrounded by 7 Crushers
"Not a support tool, btw"
Stunning them? No. Using EP smite and flaming shriek to kill them in one combo? Yes.
No you dont get it. Just literally never have anything go wrong ever
Well it clearly didn't.
And then you blamed your team
Fuck I should have thought of this
Person didnt take advantage of me putting a pause button on the fight
"This is your fault, btw"
Next time ill warn everyone when the game spawns 7 crushers on us in an enclosed space
my bad
What's the difference between the rapier marks again?
mk4 pokey poke, does unreasonable damage.
mk5 move tech OP
About to roll a few hundred. I want to make sure I don't roll a crap one.
mk2 for a minority who love it despite all evidence to the contrary.
Move tech? Slip n slide?
Yes, it randomly has extra dodge distance
How much less damage than the mk 4?
mk2 is fun because you can horde clear with it and alt attack resets heavy combo, so you can h1-alt-h1-alt for consistent pokies
That just sounds like main character syndrome
There's more going on then what you are dealing with
ds4 has the highest h1 by a long shot, though, like double or more the others'
Everything was stunned
Yep, that's the one.





