psyker-class

[hushed egret]

smite generally does not require shriek to be good

[proven crest]

if you can't see the surgical + mettle synergy, i don't know what to tell you

[hushed egret]

a smite centric build would use shriek if it wants to be optimized

and you dont

[wind spruce]

Im just bringing this back round to the original claim

For atlas the goalpost enthusiast

[long wharf]

optimizing around smite is a waste of time

[lethal lagoon]

Smite has one of the worst charge and release animations, not having an extending tool to smite makes it bad

[long wharf]

you shouldn't be sitting on smite for long periods of time as it is

time on smite = time not doing damage

[hushed egret]

you can optimize around smite to a worthwhile extent

[long wharf]

not really

[wind spruce]

Just left click scrub

[hushed egret]

it may not be meta but it'll do solid work

[long wharf]

sure it'll lock things down

but you're always better off doing damage, unless the difference is the team wiping right then and there

[torpid girder]

That's a surprisingly little difference I can't tell if this is sarcastic or not 😭

Also i assume if there r ragers i just spam trauma and hope they die?

[long wharf]

smite is best used in spurts - make the enemies funny wiggle just long enough and then knock them down

[lethal lagoon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrOmLUfNMw4

[buoyant maple]

0.36s is a surprisingly long time actually

[wind spruce]

Its not sarcastic at all. 1/3 of a second is HUGE

[long wharf]

third of a second is noticeable

[lethal lagoon]

I mean if it's something you do hundreds of times in a game .36s is basically your life

[wind spruce]

Altho my maths was wrong

You're only missing 0.18s

Morning brain soz

[buoyant maple]

0.18s still huge

[lethal lagoon]

Trauma without 80% charge rate just kinda feels bad to me.

[hushed egret]

it will hard cc at minimum 5x the things your precious dps builds can kill in the same amount of time, depending on density even more. "temporarily killing" 5x the enemies is extremely valueable when you need it

and in a smite optimized build, you arent increasing the cc because you really cant, you're increasing the dps to be more meaningful

[wind spruce]

agree

[buoyant maple]

180ms is almost 11 frames in 60fps

[torpid girder]

What melee should i be using alongside the trauma btw? i've been using the mk4 ds

[wind spruce]

Mk4 or deimos for killing mutants

[long wharf]

"precious dps builds" holy melodrama, batman

[wind spruce]

Everything else is killed by trauma

[long wharf]

"precious dps builds" are what get the team through the mission

[hushed egret]

sorry that I've dealt with enough of your type

[torpid girder]

Also i'm gonna try this build and replacing KD with quietude lol
just to try it

[long wharf]

"my type"?

[hushed egret]

yes but if you dont live to deal it then your dps didnt mean shit

[wind spruce]

Yeah do it, you dont need KD

[torpid girder]

yeaaa cuz i noticed i had like almost no way to replenish my toughness which is mostly what was making me struggle vs shooters

[hushed egret]

you have to kill everything eventually, but cc and defense tools can buy you more time so you can live to spend it killing thinhs

[hushed egret]

meta-whores

[wind spruce]

You do have mettle though

[long wharf]

wow. you really aren't worth engaging with, my bad.

[wind spruce]

Each trauma crit at max charge is basically a full bar

[torpid girder]

Mettle just wasn't enough i thinkkkk i'll just try again

[wind spruce]

@hushed egret calm down my brother

Pfhoenix just jumped into this

[lethal lagoon]

Also, nice dropping our convo after the vid was posted

[hushed egret]

sorry Atlas

[wind spruce]

If you're new to trauma its gonna feel off for awhile

[hushed egret]

smite amd shriek is a good combo and is important to optimizing a smite centric build

[wind spruce]

It's going to take awhile to learn how to deal with shooters in particular. Gotta get good with dodging and dodge-sliding while charging

[primal plume]

someone said this only affects the left click. is that true?

[lethal lagoon]

No

[wind spruce]

Its incredibly hard to notice it on right click

[lethal lagoon]

It might have been me over a month ago.

[wind spruce]

So basically yes

[hushed egret]

enfeeble only affects lmb (from what I've been told)

[primal plume]

Man. I wish this game was more clear lmao

[hushed egret]

the other smite mod

[primal plume]

this one

[hushed egret]

ye

[torpid girder]

Would it really be fatshark if all the descriptions weren't basically just fextralife entries?

[lethal lagoon]

10% works but it's additive I believe

The debuff mod for some reason doesn't show the 10% on right click

hence me and some others were confused

Also those two screenshots show jump vs +1jump

Keep in mind that was enough enemies to crash my game, so how useful it is in a real match is quesitonable.

[hushed egret]

oh I thought +1 jump did something else tbh

[primal plume]

thats a lot for simply +1

the description makes it sound like shit

but thats pretty big

[lethal lagoon]

the biggest advantage of +1 is that it can ocassionally catch a stray enemy behind you

But you really shouldn't be relying on that

It's a bad habit

[hushed egret]

"+1" basically just means one more chain of lightning

[buoyant maple]

Does smite’s target jump base itself on enemy mass or does it ignore mass completely

[primal plume]

I just assumed it meant +1 total

[lethal lagoon]

+1 per chain

[primal plume]

like instead of 20 stunned guys you have 21 stunned guys

[hushed egret]

how many chains are there?

[lethal lagoon]

So you have like 6 smite chains I think, and these each can jump X times, so it's X+1

I THINK

I don't know.

[buoyant maple]

Like, does it stun less targets if one of the targets it hits is a high mass enemy, for example a scab rager

[wind spruce]

I just tested it and im 99% sure enfeeble does affect right click, but let me go back in for a few minutes more

[primal plume]

I also heard this isnt as good anymore

[hushed egret]

tbh I see that density in aurics pretty frequently

[lethal lagoon]

I think you are underestimating how many ragers are on that screen

It's 200+

[hushed egret]

less underestimating and more exaggerating a tad

[potent echo]

Weapons with infinite cleave will get so much value once they add dif6

If they add dif6

[lethal lagoon]

it got bug fixed but honestly it's still pretty mandatory.

[hushed egret]

you're still only smiting like, 120 of them, not all 200, which is fairly realistic in my experience

not frequnetly but occassionally

when shit is really hitting the fan

[lethal lagoon]

Also this is how shriek works both horizontally and vertically.

[buoyant maple]

What’s dif6

Oh difficulty 6

[hushed egret]

stagger amount changes with distance right?

[buoyant maple]

Nvm I suffered brain rot

[primal plume]

ive always wondered. if you have a staff, does the quell speed of your blitz share the quell speed of your staff or sword or does it have an independant quell speed

[lethal lagoon]

I think you are really overestimating enemy density it can seem more than it is, there's no way the game is running 200 enemies when it's on xbox and gamepass lmao.

[hushed egret]

speaking of cleave, how does Voidstrike cleave work? does it lose any damage per target? max targets? and does charge amount affect that?

[lethal lagoon]

I just know cleave charges true aim and that's all I need

[wind spruce]

It used to be bugged to be 10% damage at 0% peril, its now properly working as displayed. It's still really good.

[lethal lagoon]

The stagger seems to be different in the "semi-circle" versus the "cone and icecream".

I don't know if stagger changes anywhere else though.

[hushed egret]

[wind spruce]

https://outplayed.tv/media/kKaGry

@hushed egret enfeeble defo affects right click

[lethal lagoon]

10% additive is so dookie though

(it is additive, right?)

[wind spruce]

It should be multiplicitive

[lethal lagoon]

Huh

[spice veldt]

independent

[wind spruce]

Why would it be additive

[spice veldt]

blitzes and force swords have a quell speed stat of 50%

[hushed egret]

10% is alright considering it's across everything you hit from all sources

[lethal lagoon]

I guess I need to test it with warp charges

[primal plume]

Thank you for this

[wind spruce]

No worries

I really need to turn my game sound down for these tests lol

[hushed egret]

and thank you as well

even better that you've confirmed it works on smite itself which was another important question

[wind spruce]

No worries! 🙂

[lethal lagoon]

Fatshark plz buff Psyker nuke to Ogryn damage

I will run 3 wounds one day, I swear it.

[wind spruce]

Hmmm, how would we go about that

Its not immediately obvious to me

[lethal lagoon]

Same as before?

[wind spruce]

@spice veldt ima inbox you to walk me through changing the healthbar mod to show me decimals if thats aiiight

[lethal lagoon]

I just wonder if 24% base damage is enough to check if it's additive given we only see integers

Might have to add warp rider and quickly check at 80% peril

[wind spruce]

Well having decimals will help

[lethal lagoon]

You can also test how the 10% effects blazing shriek

Cause it's the only attack we can do during smite

OH

use base damage shriek

[buoyant maple]

Make it so if you have full warp charges your peril damage is increased or smth

[hushed egret]

should be able to test it with warp siphon by yourself

[buoyant maple]

So there’s lore accuracy to stand on

[hushed egret]

just max out your charges and pop smite

[lethal lagoon]

The question is if you'll be able to tell if it's additive or not given we only have integers.

[wind spruce]

I dont think we can

its doing 22 damage with enfeeble and max warp charges

[lethal lagoon]

Ima try to use the base damage shriek

[buoyant maple]

If u could somehow get 2 people in the same meat grinder u could test

[wind spruce]

Will you be able to tell wwhich hit is shriek tho

[buoyant maple]

Get a veteran who’s using a high enough dmg gun

And see how much more dmg he’s really getting

[lethal lagoon]

Uhhh, it shouldn't interfer right?

[wind spruce]

im not sure

[lethal lagoon]

I mean the shirke will be doing at least 200+, I guess I can check a few times if it stacks.

or is indepedent on the healthbar

[wind spruce]

one sec ill see

Ok yeah you can see it

fairly easily

[lethal lagoon]

And push does get warp charge damage before they vanish

[wind spruce]

actually no you cant

because it adds together with the smite ticks

[lethal lagoon]

It get's random 8s added?

oof

[wind spruce]

we just need decimals

[lethal lagoon]

I wonder if the DPS thing is fine

[static needle]

Which gun is better for psyker: a headhunter rifle or the new revolver?

[lethal lagoon]

Old revolver

Those are two totally different weapons

So it's tough to say better, cause they are both off-meta too.

[wind spruce]

There's only one math.ceil in the health bar lua so ive removed it

[lethal lagoon]

They suit different roles

[wind spruce]

Pray for me

[lethal lagoon]

[wind spruce]

LMAO IT WORKED

[lethal lagoon]

So it's 1.34 versus 1.364 assuming no other multipliers for warp charges and debilitate.

[wind spruce]

https://outplayed.tv/media/6W4bPB

Its a bit intense though atlas

[lethal lagoon]

I remember every number

Need a few more tests.

[torpid girder]

whyyy pleaseeee i was so closeee

[wind spruce]

My brother just enjoy your current trauma for awhile

Its absolutely passable for a starter trauma

@lethal lagoon video coming

[lethal lagoon]

Don't be like me and blow tens of thousands of plasteel and make alt psykers to get Surge on Voidstrike and then use the staff like 5-10 times and never again.

[torpid girder]

I've actually already dumped like millions of dockets and probably like 100k plasteel into this psyker just getting good weapons for different builds i've tried out

i also just have really bad luck when it comes to my psyker specifically for some reason

and ya i didn't like voidstrike :(

[wind spruce]

https://outplayed.tv/media/gxyPme @lethal lagoon

[primal plume]

Is it worth running scryers with a staff or you taking the piss at that point?

[lethal lagoon]

21.824 vs 17.6

[lethal lagoon]

I've heard some people enjoy with void and purg, I also use it with the greatest staff ever made.

[primal plume]

it works well with staves then>

[lethal lagoon]

#1158835513789272126 message

I would say no

But it's fun

[primal plume]

lol

[lethal lagoon]

I did say "enjoy"

[tulip kettle]

Atlas

Thanks

I hate it

[lethal lagoon]

Imagine queueing up and you see that in your lobby

[torpid girder]

After thinking about it warp resistance is probably the trauma staff dump right? At least if you're using shriek

[lethal lagoon]

So typically we test on crushers cause it's more consistent, but 17.6 vs 21.824 doesn't match anything

[wind spruce]

but 16 * 1.34 is 21.44

Wait

yeah

[lethal lagoon]

16 * 1.364

[wind spruce]

so its multiplictive

[lethal lagoon]

= 21.824

Yeah

Oh I was doing dumb math

[wind spruce]

17.6* 1.24= 21.824

still morning brain

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah it's multiplicative

No

yeah

[lethal lagoon]

I just have brain

[wind spruce]

definitive answer

[lethal lagoon]

For some reason I did 17.6 * 1.34 and got really confused.

Yep delibate is multiplicative

[torpid girder]

i'm going to kill hadron

[wind spruce]

staaaahp, go enjoy your trauma

or ill stab u

[torpid girder]

i'm tryyying tooo

I felt like I was kinda underperforming with it in the last mission :/
Idk if it's because i'm using it wrong or

[wind spruce]

You're second on damage and went down once

and youve just started using the highest skill ceiling staff

You're fine.

[torpid girder]

I guess i just need more practice with it?

[wind spruce]

YES

[lethal lagoon]

Keep in mind most of us posting nice scoreboards are speeding for kills and have played this game way too much

[wind spruce]

Trauma takes dozens of games to get used to

[eager token]

i have you blocked in game @torpid girder

[wind spruce]

It feels fucking shit at first

[torpid girder]

YOU DO??? WHAT DID I DO 💔

[wind spruce]

LMAO

[lethal lagoon]

[eager token]

i only block people who do have the callout spam mod

at least lately

is that u

[torpid girder]

I don't have a callout spam mod

Unless u mean like having cheer bound to mouse 1

[wind spruce]

What even is that

[torpid girder]

Cuz I do play with cheer bound to m1 Lol

[eager token]

maybe thats what it was

[wind spruce]

Anyone here on asia pacific south?

[urban sandal]

ye

[eager token]

idk theres a mod that lets people spam random mousewheel shit

[wind spruce]

Ooh we should play some games at some point

[torpid girder]

My biggest issue rn is figuring out when I should be switching off of trauma to do other things but i'll eventually figure it out probably?

[urban sandal]

I'd be down

[eager token]

have had a couple people use it in games where you just hear CRYO VESSEL or whatever overa nd over

absolute insanity

[torpid girder]

VACUUM CAPSULE

[eager token]

yuh

[wind spruce]

I hate that i cant play with most of you american pricks

[lethal lagoon]

I'm guessing that was a regular 5?

Trauma scales with enemy density

[torpid girder]

I was wondering what that mod was xD
i just play w/ cheer bound to m1

[torpid girder]

This makes sense, and I think so?

[chrome dust]

Bind it to mouse wheel smh

[torpid girder]

We did an auric mael and I ended up performing alot better damagewise and stuff but I kinda just assumed it was a fluke

[lethal lagoon]

I played with some euros and didn't notice any lag, they are dedicated servers after all

And TBF, lag doesn't matter if I'm EP smite memeing

[torpid girder]

I got queued into another mission tho so brbbb

[chrome dust]

The more enemies in screen the more trauma shines

The less enemies on screen the less anything matters because it’s easy

[wind spruce]

I'm IroskTheOrc on steam (if thats all i have to give to add? i get confused)

[wind spruce]

TRUE. lets do it

[chrome dust]

If lags a problem just run melee ogryn

[lethal lagoon]

I can't really play a game I can't pause atm, but we should roll when it's later

[urban sandal]

sent a request

[wind spruce]

accepted

[wind spruce]

Yeah for sure

Get back to work

[lethal lagoon]

can I bring OnlySmites

[wind spruce]

Ofc

[eager token]

can i blaze trauma with this

[wind spruce]

Yes

[eager token]

its my only staff below 500 and it pisses me off man

[chrome dust]

Yep though crit chance as a perk would be nice

[eager token]

[wind spruce]

Just make sure you're peril edging and have the 5% crit node in talent tree

[eager token]

the real question is

wildfire y/n

[wind spruce]

Just take it

There's other sacrifices you can make

[primal plume]

Is it better to fully charge up your void staff when running surge or does it depend?

[wind spruce]

You could argue that since you're more likely to massively overkill with surge you're getting more out of half charges

but idk, just spitballing

I tend to find myself shooting half charged voidshots A LOT just because enemies force me to

Void has less cleave with half charged shots though

[long wharf]

is the cleave based on charge level?

I thought it was 12 regardless

[wind spruce]

Just tested it and it cleaved 8 poxwalkers at max charge no weakspots or crit

Then like 5 with half charge

[long wharf]

with or without surge?

[wind spruce]

Without

[long wharf]

alright

[wind spruce]

Want me to test with?

[long wharf]

nah, shouldn't matter

[wind spruce]

Yeah I assume second orb has same properties

[long wharf]

right

[primal plume]

how important is this? Is it kinda mandatory or is it one of those "nice to haves but wont make or break a build on its own"

[long wharf]

just non-crit

which is a shame, IMO

the surge extra projectile ought to be a crit as well

[wind spruce]

Yeah I went with non crit non weakspot for simplicity

[wind spruce]

Is it not?

[long wharf]

it is not

[wind spruce]

Lame

[long wharf]

quite

[wind spruce]

Can it crit at all?

Or just not guaranteed?

[long wharf]

the extra projectile from surge blessing? no.

it's just an extra projectile copy of your shot

[lethal lagoon]

Mandatory on high peril stuff like Surge/Trauma

[primal plume]

imagine if void surge could proc itself and you fire off 20 orbs

[wind spruce]

Interesting

[lethal lagoon]

Void and Purg can get away without it, among other builds.

[primal plume]

thanks

i always chose it because i like the SPEED

[wind spruce]

Assail weaving void needs it too imo

[tidal scaffold]

Finally understanding how assail targetting works has made me love assail psyker, its my go to way to play it now

[wind spruce]

Anyone know the name of the killcounter mod you see people with

[tidal scaffold]

I imagine its something to do with Numeric Ai

Ui*

just saw a video about Ai

[wind spruce]

Nvm its called kill tracker

Big brain

[tidal scaffold]

numbers make dopamine go brrrr

[wind spruce]

I just want it for testing tbh

Makes it easier to see how many heretics I've killed with a void bolt, etc

[queen trout]

you can have scrier up for a long time if you take all the peril gen reduction nodes, especially if you kill some special/elites after and/or have red stim. makes it actually viable on staffs

[wind spruce]

Yeah i was trying that last night with void, its amusing even if not optimal

[eager token]

add in the quell peril on weakspot hit blessing

[wind spruce]

Yeah thats what i was doing

[eager token]

[wind spruce]

My issue with this is that you're not getting any CDR from the warp charges 😦 its a big investment just for the peril reduction and damage that you then drop off every combat ability use

[queen trout]

yeah, its good for dog missions since you can pop it then get the stacks back up quick

[wind spruce]

Surge bolt does extra damage but a lower actual number. WTF.
https://outplayed.tv/media/1x7mad

@long wharf look at this

The surge bolt does more damage than a non-crit weakspot but not the same as the intial bolt.

[torpid girder]

Okay so how exactly should I even be using the trauma

if I want to use it to kill something, do I fully charge it? And when should I not be using it

[lunar hollow]

healthbars don't show overkill damage to my knowledge

[lethal lagoon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgEbIVOYwfc&t=1s

He has a bunch of blaze trauma stuff

[lunar hollow]

i would test the surge thing again but spawn a full health reaper instead of trying it on an already damaged one

[wind spruce]

Is that relevant to the point?

yeah ive just done that, video incoming

[lunar hollow]

yes, because the 2nd projectile could be dealing the same amount of damage but because some of it is converted to overkill it looks like it's doing less

[wind spruce]

True true

[torpid girder]

How good is emphatic evasion on trauma btw? Not very?

[torpid girder]

Also i'm so confused
I swear when i switch to the exact same build they have at the start of the video I have 1 point leftover

[wind spruce]

Not very. You only have around 35% crit chance on trauma and the charge is more than a second

So you're proccing it on 1/3 of the shots for a duration less than your charge

not worth

[lethal lagoon]

Do you have wildfire, KD?

[torpid girder]

Yeppp I literally have no idea what's different

[lethal lagoon]

Last point of warp charges?

Perfecting timing?

[wind spruce]

Wildfire

[torpid girder]

where's perfecting timing?

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah it was wildfire

[wind spruce]

You're missing wildfire

[lethal lagoon]

I'm a genius for guessing that first

[torpid girder]

Oh I think I just forgot to click wildfire in the ewbsite

I have wildfire in game

[lethal lagoon]

So?

[torpid girder]

wait then wtf is the diff between in game and the webstie

[lethal lagoon]

Nothing.

[torpid girder]

hold oni have to be crazy

[lethal lagoon]

[torpid girder]

i sweaaaaarrr 😭

[lethal lagoon]

So it's KD

[torpid girder]

WHAT

[lethal lagoon]

I literally guessed it right twice with my first guess

[torpid girder]

I SWEAR I CHECKED BOTH OF THOSE NODES

[lethal lagoon]

[torpid girder]

i think i need sleep

[lethal lagoon]

I need less sleep

I'm too well rested clearly

[wind spruce]

Lmao

Fuck me this upload is taking ages

[torpid girder]

I'll trade u my lack of sleep for your overabundance of sleep

[lethal lagoon]

Ima have to give you a no on that buddy

[wind spruce]

https://outplayed.tv/media/j4W5jQ

Voidstrike testing:

1. The surge projectile does more damage than a normal headshot.
2. Each crit projectile procs mettle twice, meaning with surge you get four procs, ie, 20% toughness back
3. Each crit only gives you one perfect timing stack even with surge.
4. It's not shown here but the normal + surge projectile does not cleave through more enemies than a single projectile does. It seems to explode at the same point along a conga line of poxwalkers.

@lunar hollow @long wharf

[torpid girder]

Psyker is just sooo awkward for me to play I don't understand it

[feral verge]

Lmb spam is slept on, with surge blessing staff

Toughness forever

Respectable DMG

[lunar hollow]

huh, weird. i was wondering if it was because of the cleave but the same holds true for crushers (w/ carapace stop)

[wind spruce]

Practice, practice, practice

[wind spruce]

Wondering if what was because of cleave?

[wind spruce]

Agreed, lmb is also slept on for the suppression it causes. It's bonkers.

[lunar hollow]

the damage dropoff. my idea was it could be because the 2nd projectile was phasing through so the blast damage wasn't doing applying but that seems to be wrong

[wind spruce]

Ah, OK. It's certainly a bit strange. Maybe one of the procs doesn't get the explosion damage?

[mighty cipher]

WARP BATTERY DONE

[wind spruce]

Congrats sibling

[mighty cipher]

FOR THE SECOND TIME. Im going to Kill myself

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[wind spruce]

Anyone wanna help me get the kill a boss with only brain burst penance? 651 true level and I still haven't gotten around to it

[mighty cipher]

Lmao

I gotchu

[wind spruce]

Legend

You free now?

[mighty cipher]

I need it again as well

Yeah

[wind spruce]

Theres my friend code, or im IroskTheOrc on steam

[lunar hollow]

https://streamable.com/zab7xl seems to work

the damage number for the 2nd explosion is presumably lower because of a slightly further distance from epicenter

actually hold on i can do better

ill just stack the maulers on top of each other

yeah its identical

45/45

[mighty cipher]

Sent, Anyone else care to join us?

[wind spruce]

So the maths doesnt work for my theory, right?

[lunar hollow]

yea idk what's causing this

[wind spruce]

Can anyone join me and Vulkan for malleus monstronum

[urban sandal]

yeah I can join for a bit

you need a shield ogryn or can I just use my psyker

?

[wind spruce]

Shield ogryn would help i reckon, cos then we can do it off a DH easily

[urban sandal]

no worries

im hella rusty as ogryn so I won't be all that great if we're doing auric

[mighty cipher]

Its heresy or higher so we can drop

[wind spruce]

no worries, i sent u a strike team invite

[mighty cipher]

Want to use a strike team VC?

[torpid girder]

I just feel awkward playing psyker because I feel like you have to invest so much time into killing anything so it's weird to me
since you have to charge everything up

It's kinda hard to explain
psyker just feels
slow

[hollow current]

go gunker. take the scrier and dd pill

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1203943108518223912/mauler_patrol.mp4?ex=65d2ee65&is=65c07965&hm=aebf7e9bf6cc392e7db44963f76b1ec928a989b6a66f87c99543a6dfd515682d&

[torpid girder]

i've been considering it tbhh

[spice veldt]

yeah i dislike all of our stuff having some charge/prep time before it

assail is my favorite blitz for that reason

[torpid girder]

Yea, it's annoying cuz I'll see a high priority enemy while trying to deal with a horde and instead of just pulling out another weapon or ability and instantly kill it I have to spend like 1-3 seconds charging something up

[spice veldt]

yuuup

and the sheer lack of a single-target DPS staff that matches a gun's DPS

the lack of what should've been in psyker's toolkit from day 1 yet is still lacking 1 year in

[hollow current]

beam stave

[torpid girder]

Give psyker a staff to summon mini demons from the warp... pleeeassee....

:)

also i'm going to kill hadron

The game gave her a chance to redeem herself. She didn't accept it.

I swear to GOD why do I get godrolls on literally every class except psyker? I've dumped like more than double i've put into every other class combined

[hollow current]

A week or two ago I spent around 3mil on laspistols and had a dozen candidates. all of them failed spectacularly.

[torpid girder]

I'm pretty sure i've spent around like 10 mil dockets and 100k plasteel on this psyker alone

and my highest rated weapon is like 520

[eager token]

520 is pretty good man

most my weps on psyker are like 520-545

[hollow current]

If you got a dump stat you can be effectively the same as a 550 if Hadron is in a good mood. Good luck with that tho

[eager mantle]

Another loss to the perils

[mighty cipher]

The warp wanted him back

[torpid girder]

if hadron is in a good mood 😭

I finally got a good game as psyker at least, but it might have been a fluke

[urban sandal]

would be kinda cool if you summoned a daemon or turned into a chaos spawn when you die via perils or the warp

[eager token]

man how do people do 1m+ damage

i barely break 800k sometimes

[spice veldt]

long games help

e.g., a team that gets bogged down so much that they can't move forward and have to fight more spawns (hordes/specials)

or melee maelstrom

[eager token]

ic ic

[spice veldt]

so for me, i generally consider mission completion time the main metric to care about (and plasteel)

damage is nice of course because i don't want my teammates getting any damage or kills

but lately I've been very much appreciating the dockets and plasteel that come with missions even more so than before

[willow hazel]

usually if I break 1m damage that means the mission took 35+ minutes

or like arcotash mentioned, a melee maelstrom

[spice veldt]

all my homies love melee maelstrom

(they should increase the docket reward of melee maelstrom)

[spice veldt]

y'know, this made me realise that sometimes that i should just let teammates die

since the game does stop spawns/slow down when players die

[potent echo]

Barrel tech is back

[chrome dust]

Blast radius is the dump on voidstrike isn't it?

[urban sandal]

yeah

[sinful tinsel]

I can't decide whether I like the dueling sword

[mighty cipher]

We broke broke now.

[sinful tinsel]

lmao

[hollow current]

Leaving people to die is my speciality.

[elder glade]

Which ones are you looking at?

[sinful tinsel]

I'm trying mk iv

[sinful tinsel]

.

[paper harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-spare-some-change-beggar-gif-13086110

[onyx sentinel]

what difficulty are you playing in? which staff?

[potent echo]

The issue is you are positioned in the frontline with a backline weapon

[cosmic sigil]

thus true solo is easier than hi intensity heresy with 3 pubs

[chrome dust]

Trauma staff build going pretty well

[mighty cipher]

This game is SPOILING ME

First Deimos Ive made on this account after LV30

[paper harbor]

Gg

[chrome dust]

I got this straight up from a mission reward earlier

Not great but considering i just leveled my psyker it's a nice upgrade

[hollow current]

uncanny 4 is always nice to have.

[chrome dust]

Yeah, that'll get chomped at some point

[paper harbor]

That’s look okay

[torpid girder]

aurics anddd currently trauma but i've tried every other staff
i had a good game or two but idk if they were flukes or not
The rest seemed a little underwhelming

[torpid girder]

I'm not
but I feel like another thing is that it's weird a weapon can be relegated to a backline exclusive weapon at all

[chrome dust]

It’s a ranged weapon that isn’t meant to be quick swapped to and from

Hence backline or possibly a pocket option for gunners

[potent echo]

"backline" just means you are not immediately under threat of melee units

[chrome dust]

That said, trauma can kinda frontline regardless

[potent echo]

But if you run head first swinging illisi it's not surprising that you don't have the space to get off good traumas

[torpid girder]

I mean I feel like most ranged weapons are probably a pocket option for enemies at range right

[potent echo]

Psyker also has the best quickswap ranged option

Assail

[chrome dust]

If you look at my above posted scoreboard I literally got 55 melee kills in 1k kill game with trauma

You basically just poke chargers

[potent echo]

You have 3 slots as a psyker, plenty to play around with

Actually 4

Because creeping flames lmao

[chrome dust]

They can be, but it’s not always the case

[potent echo]

Creeping flames is all the anti shooter you ever need

[torpid girder]

Well yaa like I said I was getting a good game or two as psyker but the issue was I just kinda felt like i could be contributing more if I was playing another class aside from like

the occasional shotgunner horde I could press F on

[chrome dust]

The hidden fourth weapon is blowing up

[potent echo]

I play trauma more like a support weapon

[sinful tinsel]

am I using gaze and assail wrong?

I just cannot get the hang of it

[potent echo]

Your main job is to keep enemies off your team

[chrome dust]

I mean, throwing literally every enemies besides chargers and bosses to the floor endlessly while also annihilating trash and applying debuff is a pretty nice contribution

[torpid girder]

Like I was getting alot done this game but that's just because the zealots were both running relic and were just focused on just staggering and supporting the team rather than actually clearing the horde so it gave me more time for the soulblaze to just kill things I hit F on 15 seconds ago

[potent echo]

Killing stuff is a bonus

[torpid girder]

In games where the team was actually killing things I felt like I wasn't relaly doing anything but being a glorified staggerer since it can take time to charge things up

[chrome dust]

I don’t even have soul blaze with my trauma

[potent echo]

Yea that's normal

You only shine when suddenly 10 crushers show up

Or like 10 ragers etc

[chrome dust]

The main role of trauma is stagger and applying brittle

[torpid girder]

Yea but that's where my issue lies reallyyyy
I felt like I could play a different class where I could instantly delete 10 crushers AND also be good at everything else

[potent echo]

If you want to kill you don't run trauma

[torpid girder]

like what if i was a plasma vet and i kinda just spammed m1

[potent echo]

That's if the crushers come in a straight line from far away

[chrome dust]

Just don’t be a meta goblin and you’ll feel better

It sounds like you should just be using void strike tbh

If you want high kill games why did you take the stagger stick

[potent echo]

Consider trauma feet is the kind of monkey brain bunga shi that no other class has

[torpid girder]

I tried using voidstrike but i didn't like it either
but that's probably because I got a bad roll on the ones i used

[torpid girder]

I was told trauma was one of psyker's best weapons just period
not even for just staggering

[chrome dust]

It is

[potent echo]

Ah we have quite alot of

[chrome dust]

My highest win rates are trauma Psyker and I’m a veteran main

[potent echo]

Propaganda in this chat

[hollow current]

Together? It's kinda tricky. I don't even know how I'd describe it.

[potent echo]

I'm just tired of arguing with them

[chrome dust]

Trauma can kill anything but it doesn’t have high dps

If you have good teammates they should be kill stealing you a lot. That’s a good thing

[sinful tinsel]

I'm trying to build around dueling sword and it just feels...

meh?

I feel like I want my shriek and smite back

[chrome dust]

You don’t build around dueling sword

[potent echo]

Gaze doesn't change your playstyle at all

[chrome dust]

You take it for single target damage to round out a build

[potent echo]

Doesn't add anything

[plucky flax]

Tru I never get high damage with trauma it's impossible

[sinful tinsel]

yeah I'm sticking it on my smite build then

[chrome dust]

Decent damage trauma

[torpid girder]

I think the biggest thing for me is that it felt like psyker fully revolves around their team and because it has to specialize into one specific thing to be good at it that psyker could struggle I think? it's kinda hard to explain
well not struggle in every area but I feel like psyker struggles the most in situations where your team is busy with other things if that makes sense

[hollow current]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1203707614853201960/shotgun_blitz.mp4?ex=65d21313&is=65bf9e13&hm=90bd2dc81b229830d0239b8ad8c521b499b930350560784814f8cb19d7e7cdca& something like that?

[plucky flax]

300k is not decent

[chrome dust]

lol

[wind spruce]

This is so wrong

[chrome dust]

It also kills trash very well

But not as well as a purg or something

[torpid girder]

I got 800k on my soulblaze trauma in a 20 min mission but again i kinda felt like it was more like a fluke or something

[sinful tinsel]

I was not expecting the laspistol lmao

[chrome dust]

Soulblaze will up your dps a lot

I just don't really care for it

[mighty cipher]

I main the damn purg staff and I’ll tell you right now that that’s not true.

[torpid girder]

yea in alot of games where the team could actually kill things it looked alot more like this

[potent echo]

Purg is unquestionably the best

Totally not my propaganda

[mighty cipher]

Purg can shut down a direction but BT literally just makes you a circle of death.

[wind spruce]

Trauma is way better at horde what are you smoking

[potent echo]

Purg is better vs shooters

Using trauma against shooters is just pain

[chrome dust]

It is?

[wind spruce]

Homie blaze trauma can deal with any situation outside of Monstrosities

[potent echo]

You blow up 3 the other 5 shooting your dump truck

[hollow current]

I like the swap speed. 🤠

It also has good boss damage with my set up.

[potent echo]

Purg suppresses all

[torpid girder]

Ya but I meant likeee
it can't do it as well as other classes i felt like if that made sense? or it felt more reliant on the team just not doing anything since most of your damage is through a DOT and a long charge time

[sullen sphinx]

That's why I'm running Smite and Shield with my Trauma, even normal shooters are pain

[mighty cipher]

It’s a comparison of dogshit vs horseshit so either option is absolutely miserable but I can see where he’s coming from.

[plucky flax]

Definitely I never get more than 400k with trauma.

[torpid girder]

Yea i usually got around 300-450k with the trauma build i'm using
The one screenshot I posted above was like a fluke or a 1off thing I think cuz the 2 zealots were relic zealots that just focused on staggering instead of clearing

or maybe im just too drunk

[wind spruce]

Remind me, how long have u been using trauma? 5 games? 20? 100?

[plucky flax]

Wow so cool

My team usually kinda sus.

[spice veldt]

it's prob just cuz most of the staffs are AoE damage that is feeling off to you

[chrome dust]

Five hundred million games

[potent echo]

Jokes aside trauma and purg falls behind if your team is really really good

[torpid girder]

Okay that's fair i've only used it in like 9 games 😭

[chrome dust]

It's worth noting you can also entirely ditch staves and play gun psyker

[potent echo]

That's where voidstrike comes in, you kill steal them before they can reach the enemy

[chrome dust]

Like that is a thing that is not bad

[torpid girder]

i've actually really been considering this but i just feel like it's a waste to not play a staff psyker cuz like

[potent echo]

Or gunpsyker yea

[torpid girder]

i use guns on every other class :(
What if i want to use magic on the 1 magic class

[wind spruce]

Yep, I thought so. You're still on your tricyle. Just keep practicing. Trauma takes a LOT more than 9 games to be even moderately good at it

[potent echo]

Void is how you get the biggest yellow numbers for scoreboard

[torpid girder]

Ohhh, maybe

I dunno why it's just psyker hasn't really been clicking for me as quickly as the other classes did

[spice veldt]

I don't like that aspect of psyker's arsenal as well

[plucky flax]

It's impossible to be gud with blaze trauma pls stop spreading false info

[onyx sentinel]

okay so @plucky flax is like the biggest trauma simp in this discord and he has like a dozen maelstrom runs on yt using blaze trauma, maybe those will help you try to figure out how to play around the thing https://www.youtube.com/@swaggarinoblackarino7347/search?query=trauma

[chrome dust]

I actually haven't really felt much of a learning curve for trauma

... Actually I'm dumb. I have like a hundred hours on the same staff in vermintide, ignore me

[plucky flax]

[potent echo]

Vermintide doesn't have shooters

[wind spruce]

That would explain it

[plucky flax]

Idk who that is

[chrome dust]

On the note of carryover staves

Bolt staff >>>>>> voidstrike

[spice veldt]

trauma felt fairly fine to learn to me as a newcomer and back when it generated 47% peril

[torpid girder]

I dunno if it's a learning curve
I think it's just more i'm not used to psyker in general cuz something about it just feels different

[chrome dust]

it is different

[spice veldt]

maybe it's just realizing that the trauma circle just has an arc and is the same as throwing a nade/rumbler

[torpid girder]

and also for some reason all of my luck was transferred into the other classes and god didn't save any for my psyker

[wind spruce]

Seriously @torpid girder watch some of selfish's videos. Or telepots with trauma.

[chrome dust]

Yeah trauma only really hurts dudes when you plop it between their legs

But the stagger aura is fucking massive

[wind spruce]

Yes, you're not used to it. Play another 50 games and then come back to evaluating it

[mighty cipher]

Psyker is janky and plays like chess pieces in a game of checkers.
He’s a lot of random gauge and cooldown management as well as sheer fucking AoE. You’re not managing any sort of expandable resource like everyone else as a staff Psyker.

[onyx sentinel]

mostly because you can't quick switch to a plasma or columnus and gun down an entire line of elites in 2 seconds

[torpid girder]

this probably makes the most sense tbh

[chrome dust]

Just play with voidstrike and you can do that

[spice veldt]

gib psyker a force staff with the single target DPS to match a gun pretty please

[sullen sphinx]

Psyker is a squishy class, so you need to learn how not to die

[chrome dust]

Speaking of voidstrike, what blessings do y'all run

[potent echo]

Voidstrike needs a little bit of space

[wind spruce]

2026

[torpid girder]

i tried voidstrkie but i didn't like it cuz it just felt boring so i refuse to use it

[mighty cipher]

Factually incorrect

[wind spruce]

Stick with your trauma. Please.

[potent echo]

Surge nexus 🤷‍♂️. I have tried all of the combinations but this is still the best in the end

[torpid girder]

i've been actively trying to replace the trauma cuz of the charge rate Lol

How often should I be looking to fully charge it btw

[spice veldt]

ohhh man

is your trauma's charge rate low

[chrome dust]

Whenever you have space

[torpid girder]

yes and I hate it so much

[spice veldt]

trauma is the weapon with the widest stat scaling in the game

[chrome dust]

Get a better staff

[potent echo]

What's the range for trauma charge, 0.2 seconds?

[mighty cipher]

If you’re doing it right you should be able to facetank about as well as a zealot and if your doing super well you can match an ogryn.

[spice veldt]

charge rate scales from 2.5 seconds to 1 second

[wind spruce]

It's at 68%

[potent echo]

Wait 2.5

[spice veldt]

yup 2.5

[wind spruce]

So they are missing 0.18s from the charge

[potent echo]

[spice veldt]

first staff that you unlock btw

[potent echo]

Ok that's wack

[torpid girder]

this is what i've been using

pls ignore the name :)

[mighty cipher]

I’m not going to ignore the name. Freaky little man.

[chrome dust]

That's what I have atm

[sullen sphinx]

Yep, you can tank most of the staff if you're doing things right, but if you're doing something wrong you will die as Psyker don't have much of passive defense

[torpid girder]

i KNEW damage was a dump stat

they lied to me

[torpid girder]

it's a song 😭 😭

[chrome dust]

I mean, it's better to have damage than not have damage

[torpid girder]

and not aman

[chrome dust]

But the difference ain't that bad

[wind spruce]

That's pretty bad, if you aren't running blazing spirit you need higher damage

[chrome dust]

Not really honestly

[spice veldt]

eh, you only need as much damage as you need to hit breakpoints

[potent echo]

If you want to be oddly specific, rending gives BP on shotgunners

[potent echo]

Outer radius + epicenter should kill shotgunner

[chrome dust]

Like i really haven't noticed damage problems with it

[potent echo]

With rending

[wind spruce]

True, but it's needed more with the rending set up since you aren't applying soul blaze

[hollow current]

Been ages since I've used my Trauma. 😔

[plucky flax]

Isi t not but okay.

[torpid girder]

idk okay!!!! the steam guide says so and im pretty sure the book is smarter than i am!!

[spice veldt]

on the other hand quick swap builds are fine with low damage on trauma

[hollow current]

I used it all the time until two weeks or so into update 13.

[mighty cipher]

Warp res is the dump stat on every Psyker weapon if you aren’t a coward

[plucky flax]

Fair.

Just trust whatever the internet says!!

[potent echo]

Aren't we also the internet

[torpid girder]

Warp resistance is the dump stat cuz it lets u get the highest stacks on shriek faster duhhhh
obviously

[plucky flax]

I am not THE internet.

I am super real.

[mighty cipher]

It actually unironically is.

[chrome dust]

I will say that 80% blast radius is nice, because the epicentre gets bigger

Easier to get multiple dudes in there

[torpid girder]

Okay that's good i just had to pretend i was making a joke because i wasn't sure if i was right or not

[wind spruce]

Your staff is fine. Your experience isn't. I WILL keep harping on this.

[chrome dust]

true

[plucky flax]

Blaze trauma is so hard to craft there's literally zero truly god roll staff out there.

[sullen sphinx]

Imagine running shriek and not the funny bubble

[torpid girder]

well i know that the staff and playstyle is probably fine
it's just i feel like i could be contributing more on other classes
but maybe i just need to keep playing it

[mighty cipher]

Yeah, it’s also for The 33% resistance talent and warp rider. Having a piss poor warp res on an Illisi can get you 100% for those in like 2 seconds by spamming charge. And purg staff doesn’t blow you up if you start the flamethrower under 100.

[chrome dust]

I like bubble with trauma to give me time to pull out assail to poke distant gunners

[wind spruce]

Defo just needa keep at it

[hollow current]

I was always skeptical of this. For blazing Traumas I get it. but I was never bothered by it dumping a lil.

[plucky flax]

No memes but you lose a lot of damage not using creeping flames especially with blaze trauma.

Idk the really op rending trauma build I don't use that.

[torpid girder]

kayyy time to get into another mission cuz brunt and hadron refuse to giv eme a better weapon

[chrome dust]

Not that you need it or anything. I just find having it handy

[hollow current]

I mean, bigger is definitely better for sure.

[chrome dust]

My psyker is still pretty young, so I still have to deal with gear cope. It's just a nice upside I noticed

[wind spruce]

Replacing your current trauma is going to take awhile

[mighty cipher]

The other really funny dump stat is Damage on the Purg staff. I got really good blessings on one with 18% damage and 73+ in everything else and it rocks.

[hollow current]

I spent so much on Deimos and Trauma and now I don't use either. 🥲

[chrome dust]

All dot all the time

[mighty cipher]

And stagger

[onyx sentinel]

no +flak or +maniac is probably why you feel like it's so slow to kill anything, I run both rather than the 5% crit (37.5% vs 32.5% isn't that huge imo)

[chrome dust]

purg is the mvp for anti-bursters

[mighty cipher]

You’ll blow around just about anything that isn’t a Rager mid combo.

[torpid girder]

it probably doesnt help that i also have godrolls on every class except psyker

[chrome dust]

I don't think I want to blow most enemies tbh

[mighty cipher]

I have kinetic flayer so if I do that I explode so……

[torpid girder]

i wentdown to reply to that. worht it

[plucky flax]

You can stagger rager with lmb spam on purga.

[chrome dust]

I would use kinetic flayer if it didn't trigger on trash

But it does so it's trash

[sullen sphinx]

That's why I'm not running it with my Purg build

[wind spruce]

This is not a bad point. Try swapping your 5% crit for flak @torpid girder

[mighty fractal]

Too bad purg lmb can’t stagger ogryns anymore

[mighty cipher]

Eh, shove works more than well enough for me.

[mighty fractal]

And it only causes maulers to flinch

Meanwhile trauma out here be sending crushers into the dirt

[mighty cipher]

It’s literally called the TRAUMA staff. I’d be disappointed if it didn’t.

[hollow current]

Feels like bullying, the way crushers topple forward.

[chrome dust]

Trauma got its name from the experience crushers have with it

[potent echo]

Still staggers bulwark if you lmb their flesh

Just not crushers anymore, easy mode gone

[chrome dust]

I'll lmb your flesh

[hollow current]

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/002/108/859/41e.png we need a crusher version of this and a trauma circle around him

[plucky flax]

Same with reaper. Lmb spam can stagger them too.

Just no the crushers.

[mighty fractal]

Yeah that’s the sad part

I actually can’t remember if purg lmb used to do anything to bulwark shields

[sullen sphinx]

Don't think so

[torpid girder]

i'll trhy thattt

maybe i should like hire a darktide coach or something idk 😭

[wind spruce]

Record a game and let's take a look at your skillz

[plucky flax]

Okie rate me from 1 to 7.

[sullen sphinx]

6.9/7

[plucky flax]

[wind spruce]

-69

[torpid girder]

like an entire game? i don't think i'd be able to send it here

[wind spruce]

Or a short clip, or stream it, idk

There's streaming software which allows you to temporarily upload stuff to their servers

I use outplayed but I'm sure there's better ones

[torpid girder]

ummm i could try screensharing it or somethinggg after this mission

[chrome dust]

could probably just stream in a voice channel or pm

[plucky flax]

Who ate my revolver?

[wind spruce]

Inbox me then if you want

I'm on too many painkillers rn to play my own games lol

Making my reflexes garbage

[chrome dust]

Just play ogryn

[wind spruce]

I only play psyker

One trick pony

[chrome dust]

Channel your magic into your muscles and become an ogryn

[torpid girder]

i main ogryn 🙏
i just wanttol earn psyker

[sullen sphinx]

Just imagine playing as a very dumb Biomancer

[torpid girder]

but the mission is done so i can screenshare it if u wantt

[wind spruce]

Ok

[radiant sleet]

f

y u do this hadron

[worthy stratus]

Anyone know what the best perks are for dueling sword?

I have shred/uncanny strikes for blessings

[sullen sphinx]

Khm... "A NeW MaRvEl HaS AwOkEn"

[plucky flax]

Yess I screwed it back on.

[sullen sphinx]

I think those are the BiS. You can try playing with Precognition or Riposte, but getting a successful Dodge is a bit janky

[plucky flax]

Perks are maniac + carapace/unyielding your choice.

I really like carapace with uncanny.

You can poke crushers to death real fast.

[sullen sphinx]

Oh, perks, sorry, can't read properly today

[candid zodiac]

running a support build and trying to support junk ass team members is so annoying lmfao

[plucky flax]

Bubble smite?

[elder glade]

[unique mist]

Attachment mod go crazy

U know what's funny

That revolver skin has better ironsights than base

p2w

[plucky flax]

Optic OP

[sullen rapids]

see that’s why i don’t run support builds in pubs

even my dogshit aim can top pub maelstroms with gunpsyker lol

i only pull out the bubble if i have competent teammates

[sullen rapids]

any difficulty where your blessings actually matter you really won’t be having issues getting those to proc; i will agree precog is kinda bad because it’s only 2s but with scrier’s/dd it’s the single highest damage boost blessing you can get

maybe shred? but i haven’t actually mathed out how much the cc boost compares to finesse damage

[stable halo]

in strike team 5 anyone wants to join shadow wizard money gang

[spice veldt]

precog is like 1.35x more damage on a weakspot which is respectable

[terse saffron]

if only it had the same duration as riposte

[sullen rapids]

yea, once you consider that it makes the DD buff bigger and also gives that same bonus to crits, and how often you crit with scrier’s

things get out of hand

[spice veldt]

i assume that it stacks additively with crit and weakspot damage

unless it's the same situation with power

[sullen rapids]

no finesse and dd stack multiplicatively

[elder glade]

Welcome to the insanity

[sullen rapids]

also why the +finesse scrier’s node is better than the other one

before you even count the weakspot kills count as 1s in gaze

[potent echo]

This would mainly matter for bosses, since a crit HS would one shot most targets anyway

[spice veldt]

just looking at the calculator, finesse and weakspot damage are stacking additively

too bad that my internet is down so i can't load up the game and check if it's just DD that's stacking multiplicatively

[potent echo]

Also for bosses shred might be better if it's bonbon, harder to proc dodge blessings

[spice veldt]

at least precog is a deterministic bonus

[sullen rapids]

i’m pretty sure it’s just dd that stacks weirdly

i’m in bed so i can’t test either

[sullen rapids]

yea realistically shred/riposte is probably the best for bossshredding

[spice veldt]

god damn cricket that doesn't allow a hotspot plan with my phone model

[lunar hollow]

L

[spice veldt]

you are the last person who can say that in this context

mr got-ledged-by-his-internet

[lunar hollow]

i was possessed by the ghost of poxburster past

[sullen sphinx]

L

[torpid girder]

Irosk gave me TONS of good tips

I think i'm seeing the appeal of trauma

Super fun

[wind spruce]

You were killing it. Did an amazing clutch, too.

[radiant frigate]

i like to think the appeal of trauma is seeing an elite wave and cackling while you send them all to the floor

[torpid girder]

On the floor AND on fire!!

definitely not the heretics best day

[plucky flax]

Nooo pls don't spread false lies

We must get blaze trauma buffs

[torpid girder]

u r right it does too little damage why does it take so long to charge up :(

itshould be like a quickdraw revolver

[sullen sphinx]

If you want some quick charge up you can try Warp Flurry

[plucky flax]

Yeah but rip blaze trauma

[wind spruce]

Charge rate is for suckers

[hearty oak]

Next update: perils of the warp does 2000% more damge + has an increased blast range of a small nuke

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-nuke-apocalypse-meme-gif-9579985

[wind spruce]

They SHOULD make it do more

Just because kewl

[hearty oak]

They should

But wont

[sullen sphinx]

But... why not both? Tried experimenting with some Blaze Trauma variations and surprisingly Warp Flurry + Blazing Spirit is quite pleasant to run. Sure, you have lower chance to set things on fire, but with increased fire rate it still burns down hordes

[plucky flax]

Idk losing the huge crit chance kinda hurts. I also have 80% charge rate so it's manageable.

[sullen sphinx]

Yea, but aura for crit chance fixes is a bit, and it's just too much fun chain blast stuff and not worry too much about peril management

[plucky flax]

Not worry? I have to quell after every blast.

And I run 6 warp charges

[sullen rapids]

huh? how do you consistently hit 6 warp charges

do you just waste shriek by letting it sit off cooldown

[torpid girder]

by killing things duhhh

[hearty oak]

By just killing stuff

[plucky flax]

I kill a lot with blaze trauma

[hearty oak]

Sometimes the team nets me a charge

[plucky flax]

Easily over 1k kills every game.

[sullen rapids]

i literally have played trauma psyker in 3veg a lot and am never at 6 charges long enough for it to matter for anything that isn’t cdr

[torpid girder]

wat's 3veg?

am i just dumb

[sullen sphinx]

Running 4% chance talent helps maintaining your charges

[sullen rapids]

waves of specialists monstrous specialists armour only and extra grenades

[plucky flax]

Average blaze trauma game
https://youtu.be/BmMGD1ev5rE

[torpid girder]

goodness doesn't this maelstrom sound fun

[sullen rapids]

it is genuinely enjoyable when you have competent teammates

[torpid girder]

i had no idea there wasl ike
terminology for the maelstroms

[elder glade]

It has some nice difficulty to it and more than enough elites/specials to keep things actually interesting

[sullen rapids]

it’s not that hard tbh

i can be imagine in pubs but like

[wind spruce]

Your MAX crit chance without nexus is 22.5%, and it's only 17.5% without prescience

[elder glade]

Definitely for pubs

[wind spruce]

Blaze trauma ain't worth it with such low crit rate

[elder glade]

I want to run it more often tbh

[sullen rapids]

wait so do you just lie about only playing sedition #psyker-class message

[wind spruce]

Yes he does

[sullen rapids]

damn, misinformation on the internet?

who could’ve guessed

[elder glade]

I thought it was right 100% of the time

[plucky flax]

Sorry its deepfake

[sullen rapids]

why tho

[plucky flax]

I am sedition main.

[sullen rapids]

what do you gain from lying about it

[sullen sphinx]

Maybe, I need to run it more, but after 5 games the increased fire rate it feels good to run

[plucky flax]

Maybe that agentchaos dude is not me I'm just admirer.

[sullen rapids]

i think the implication is with low crit you’re not gaining enough from blazing spirit and you’d be better off just going flurry/nexus if you want flurry

[sullen rapids]

smells fishy

[plucky flax]

[sullen rapids]

i guess i was right about ignoring your opinion on dd tho

[plucky flax]

Yes my opinion is always bad since I'm sedition gamer.

Dd? I don't use it because the way it functions. If it was similar to piety then yeah I'd use it.

But drop off all stacks at once. Only getting stack from your own kills.

[sullen rapids]

i get that

[plucky flax]

Too much hassle for me.

[sullen rapids]

the way you phrased it to me sounded like “i can’t keep stacks because i only play sedition” like no shit sherlock you’re in an empty fucking map

[plucky flax]

[sullen rapids]

which would not be a valid criticism of the ability

[half iron]

skibidi toilet

[sullen sphinx]

Understandable, have a nice day

[half turtle]

what is dd

[elder glade]

Disrupt destiny

[half turtle]

o

[rigid sky]

Good morning siblings

Hope you all still have your craniums intact

[dim parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-sadness-pet-head-caterpie-sad-gif-16792400

[paper loom]

worth a buy? its in Melks

[vestal fulcrum]

Oh yeah, that’s a good Purgatus

[wind spruce]

It's a voidstrike?

[paper loom]

its void

[wind spruce]

Lmao

[paper loom]

weirdly theres a purg under it in the shop lol

[vestal fulcrum]

Wtf, why does it have Purgatus’ staff head

[paper loom]

oh i have custom wep mod

[vestal fulcrum]

I perceive staffs by staff heads

See Purga head = assume Purgatus

[dim parrot]

lol

[vestal fulcrum]

In any case

It’s a decent Void also

[paper loom]

i have lvl 4 surge or the blessing that hits twice to go on it

[wind spruce]

I'd buy this. It's a great surge void

[dim parrot]

my surge also looks like purg tbf

[wind spruce]

Swap infested for flak and flurry for surge

[paper loom]

i assume change flurry?

great ty

[plucky flax]

[paper loom]

what mobs are infested btw?

and wtf are groaners

[vestal fulcrum]

Poxwalkers, Poxbursters, Poxhounds

[vestal fulcrum]

Smol non-zombified horde dudes, they have Unarmoured health type

[paper loom]

ah so groaner perk = worthless

[vestal fulcrum]

A bit “specialized” it is, indeed

[bold badger]

Sooo, I don't play with mods. What's the count that keeps shifting in the center? Is that dodges? It's 5/5 on your sword, 3/3 on the staff, constantly fluctuating and goes negative at times.

[plucky flax]

Yes it's dodge counts.

[urban sandal]

the loyal moebians keeping watch at the start of a lot of the missions are fuckin useless, they just stand there while specialists and monstrosities run by acting like they don't see them

[bold badger]

I imagine their thought process is something like...Throw the cannon fodder convicts on the front lines to soften up the enemy and then they come in and sweep up the leftovers with less casualties.

I'd be ok with that if I were loyal moebian and I saw giant demon spawns and ogryns wandering the streets lol

https://tenor.com/view/this-isnt-happening-everyone-look-away-please-nothing-to-see-here-officer-barbrady-south-park-gif-21526904

[urban sandal]

[icy gulch]

The cannon fodder penal squad that can take down beasts of nurgle and daemonhosts

[bold badger]

Everyone gets lucky from time to time lol

[icy gulch]

Lucky is crazy 😭

[bold badger]

It's either luck or the big E really is looking out for our reject squad

[icy gulch]

Or we're just that good

[rigid sky]

Our minds are just that INCOMPARABLE

[sullen sphinx]

Plot twist: funny birb wants to screw up Nurgle and is helping us in secret

[icy gulch]

Y'all ever thought about what grade psyker our characters would fall under?

[rigid sky]

INCOMPARABLE grade

[plucky flax]

Pretty high. Probably alpha or beta.

[icy gulch]

Definitely not 💀

We're one of the lowest grades for sure

[plucky flax]

We can kill a dh.

[rigid sky]

Multidisciplinary though

That's pretty radical

We are all aberrations I think, every class is some kind of main character shit

But it's like through sheer willpower rather than true power

[icy gulch]

We're like Eta at most

Alpha is like snapping titans and making entire armies turn on each other with ease

Like apocalyptic levels of power

They don't even sanction Alpha psykers because it's said that no human is sane at that grade

The highest sanctioned psykers are Beta

[plucky flax]

I'm reading eisenhorn and he's like a pretty weak psyker but he's hunting an alpha +.

[icy gulch]

I think that that's more a thing of him being a bad narrator and probably blowing things out of proportion. Also, he's a very well trained psyker with centuries of experience. Probably helps him compensate for his relatively weak power.

It also just seems a bit inconsistent

[plucky flax]

[rigid sky]

Inconsistency? In my 40k?

[icy gulch]

No way...

I like to view it as most of what we read is just hearsay or someone being a poor narrator. It's like someone telling you a story rather than set in stone lore.

So naturally some people are gonna misremember or toot their own horn a little

Plus very poor record keeping

That's my loreful headcanon for 40k inconsistency

[jaunty tiger]

is warp charges or empowered psionics better for

purg staff/shriek/bb

spamming shriek seems pretty swell but having BB kill ragers also seems pretty swell

[vestal fulcrum]

I’d personally pick EP, but that’s not to say WS isn’t a good/better option

I also play EP with Blaze Trauma - this is basically trading your general clear capabilities for more handiness re: casting BR

[jaunty tiger]

ill try EP more