#psyker-class

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long wharf
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it's revolting

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and hideous

austere crest
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Rollercoaster

spice veldt
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have a thunderous melee and swap to your melee before the bolt hits

spice veldt
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400iq

long wharf
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quick, what weapons do we have as psykers that get blessings for dealing extra damage to staggered enemies?

spice veldt
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i think just dclaw isn't it

hushed egret
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dclaw goes so hard

long wharf
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dang

lethal lagoon
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Combat axe has thunderous

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Does it have to be stagger?

spice veldt
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thunderous doesn't have a stagger requirement

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just any hit

long wharf
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I was thinking of a synergy between that and assail

spice veldt
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i believe DoTs also proc it

long wharf
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as assail staggers almost everything it hits

spice veldt
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i forgor though

wind spruce
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Just skullcrusher I think, but that's adding damage

lethal lagoon
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Wait, does thunderous hit assail too?

austere crest
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also run n gun has another damage buff

wind spruce
spice veldt
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if you've swapped to your melee when the shards land then probably

lethal lagoon
long wharf
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technically, any projectile you fire can take on the properties of your active weapon on impact

spice veldt
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this is so sad

harsh urchin
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RnG dmg buff doesnt work fyi

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The 10% close range dmg is bugged or sth

spice veldt
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the damage buff works but only when you're sprinting, iirc

harsh urchin
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Oh that's pretty dogshit lmao

spice veldt
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you do get the spread reduction at all times at least

lethal lagoon
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Oh, horde clear from transfer peril probably wins then. Not really an option of LMB surge though.

austere crest
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If you arent sprinting you arent running

spice veldt
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true we should always trust in the namesake of a blessing to infer what it does

long wharf
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remember when FartShack renamed Warp Nexus?

austere crest
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I usually like WarpFlurry and Nexus as a pairing, and then the 10% chance to quell node

austere crest
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So aggressive :/ It's really fun to play with different builds

tough trench
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what do with exorcist

spice veldt
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oh interesting skullcrusher does stack from DoTs

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skullcrusher dclaw + blazing spirit trauma when

lethal lagoon
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Thunderous Combat Axe would be better for that, no?

spice veldt
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thunderous is just brittleness whereas skullcrusher is damage

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and trauma being able to dink crushers

autumn smelt
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hey guys, i just made a psyker build and i wanna know you guys' thoughts on it

harsh urchin
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Is it just a debuff

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Or does it get consumed

spice veldt
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it lasts for 5 seconds after the last application

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so as long as they're staggered, they'll take +80% damage

eager token
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this thing worth keeping i dont have a decent deimos y et

autumn smelt
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i put a ton of effort into it

urban sandal
feral verge
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maniac (must have) and elite/carapace/unyielding for perks

spice veldt
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you're like the 5th person that I've said this to today, but you're sick in the head

eager token
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?

autumn smelt
spice veldt
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horrifyin

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g

feral verge
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its one of the better options

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not ideal on deimos, like it is on illisi

tough trench
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friends, again, what do with this?

feral verge
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and swap unyielding damage to flak

lethal lagoon
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Breh

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Like you don't have to attack or anything

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Thats so fucking wild

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I know there's the uncanny stack thing, but that requires effort and risk

sharp shoal
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Loving deimos trauma bb

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Just got cliff hanger with trauma

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On a assassination map

ornate hamlet
sharp shoal
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Near the train

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Was weird

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Now for warp battery

eager token
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hadron be generous this day..

sharp shoal
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Nice

wind spruce
eager token
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its not nice yet

wind spruce
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its like 10% for flak and unyielding

sharp shoal
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He gave me a 380 axe

lethal lagoon
eager token
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gonna play a game to channel my rng

sharp shoal
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380 grey

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Was great

lethal lagoon
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Unfortunately you can't get both together.

sharp shoal
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I've been trying to complete cliff hanger I'm after a different penance and randomly got it

eager token
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wow i blew all my hadron RNG on a 351

lethal lagoon
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Hmmm

sharp shoal
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I got uncanny 3 precog 4 deimos

eager token
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wait thats a mk2

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NOOO

sharp shoal
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With 0 rerolls on it

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And 20% maniac

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Do I reroll anything

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I got sprint which I do use a lot

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To get around

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My deimos

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Pretty good roll

feral verge
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especially on psyker, who already has insane stam regen delay

sharp shoal
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Okay

feral verge
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swap to elite/carapace/unyielding

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your pick

sharp shoal
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Done

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I went unyielding

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I need a 21% health

wind spruce
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@lethal lagoon its a pity rending shockwave and thunderous dont stack whatthefuck_heresy

sharp shoal
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I got two 17% toughness 3 3 stam

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Psyker isn't even my main

feral verge
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tried stam

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never felt needed

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stam regen? that i can see

sharp shoal
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I liked the sprint a lot for creeping up on gunners

feral verge
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100% not needed

sharp shoal
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But I do use bb

feral verge
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dodge slide in g unner direction, shoot staff or gun at gunners to supress them

sharp shoal
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Bb trauma deimos and vent

feral verge
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no need to run sprint eff. just to reach gunners

sharp shoal
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It was what it rolled

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I didn't reroll the sword at all till I put unyielding

austere crest
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Stam Regen is great

feral verge
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@austere crest

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im running this x3

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oops

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wrong

sharp shoal
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My psyker has been lvl 30 for 4 days now

austere crest
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for 4 days? That's solid gear fast nj

sharp shoal
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I'm buying anything high from the armory as supposedly it secretly increases shop lvl to get higher rolls

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Like my 380 grey axe

feral verge
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it took me months to see a 380 in shop lol

austere crest
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I think there are alot of conspiracies that are all worth trying. I waste a ton of ordos just rolling bs

sharp shoal
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He sold me 2 17 toughness and 3 3 stams so far

feral verge
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i dont think i saw one until maybe june

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i have been playing since release

sharp shoal
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I played 300 hours on pc

feral verge
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1.7k hours

sharp shoal
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I recently moved to xbox

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It worked for me

feral verge
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idk how anyone could play this game on controller

sharp shoal
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Buying the higher rolls

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I did both

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Controller and keyboard and mouse

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I'm using a weird build

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But someone mentioned trauma and rending

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It works

feral verge
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I prefer rending shockwave trauma

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Over blaze trauma

austere crest
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Its very strong

sharp shoal
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Ogryn is 100%

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On both tabs

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Regular and redacted

feral verge
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Ogryn is the only class I haven't hit 30

sharp shoal
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Psyker was my last for 30

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And 4 days in

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Full gold

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17% stams and stuff

feral verge
sharp shoal
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toughness

feral verge
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ogryn too slow and braindead for me

sharp shoal
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3 stams

lethal lagoon
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Ogryn is my favorite class for when I wanna brain off

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You are functionally immortal if you don't get trapped

sharp shoal
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I got 2 20% health

urban sandal
# sharp shoal But I do use bb

on specialists, ogryns and gunners, ideally you want to be on the lookout for things like bursters, trappers and dogs and burst them before they get near any team mates

sharp shoal
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I need that 21

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I do typically pop what is aggeored doing the most dmg

austere crest
sharp shoal
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And Any specialists I can

feral verge
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@austere crest when are you gonna give me that mod

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I've asked before in game

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I think

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I was told to solo beat the twins solo hard mode lol

sharp shoal
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I got terrifying 4 on trauma atm

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it helped me do cliff hanger

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Is why I tried it

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And it worked

austere crest
feral verge
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@austere crest I'm interested

sharp shoal
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The dump on my trauma is quell

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It's a 370

austere crest
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Theres def a point with hard mode when you can just kite indefinitely, its engaging the twins where it recomplicates itself

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thats perfect

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bc u can make up for quell via tree

sharp shoal
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I run vs

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Venting shriek

magic kayak
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I haven't hit 30 on ogryn or vet. Zealot and Psyker are too fun

austere crest
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me too for the quell

sharp shoal
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Its only bad when a host Is around

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You can't use it

austere crest
magic kayak
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yeah agreed

sharp shoal
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For fear of triggerering it

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Earlier I had a zel

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Who one hit the sleeping dh

austere crest
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I get so used to the nimbleness of the movement, and i play super weird

sharp shoal
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On damn

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th

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They were using hammee

austere crest
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then on ogryn its kind of just brain off, destroy, help team

sharp shoal
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Hammer zel deletes monsters

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Just one hit

urban sandal
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that's about all it does KEKW_ogryn

sharp shoal
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Lmao

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Its useful

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One hit the host

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Problem solved

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No more dh

sharp shoal
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good for weeklies

kind sequoia
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I love charging a mutant and killing it with just one swing

sharp shoal
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Lol

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I can one hit with charge with deimos

kind sequoia
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It's pure hype, we hug each other

sharp shoal
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the thruat

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Thrust

feral verge
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The mutie one shot poke with deimos is my favorite thing in the game

sharp shoal
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right

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I got precog 4 on my deimos

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and its beautiful

wind jay
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One tapping muties is up there

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really really enjoy the feeling of the speed increase when you get your buffs up on psyker

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start feeling like the floor is made of soap lol

sharp shoal
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Right

austere crest
idle plover
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Ogryn rock on mutie or dueling sword 1 taps are satisfying

eager token
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is rampage good on mk4 dueling sword

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lmao

urban sandal
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it's not ideal but isn't terrible either

eager token
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hmm

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i have one more 375 to blow

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hadron you cheeky lil

hushed egret
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helps if you dont have a solid crowd clear option otherwise

bold abyss
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venting strike after smite stun, I need this faster.

hushed egret
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btw, is there a weird interaction between devils claw parry and kinetic deflection y'all know about?

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last time I tried them I parried a crusher and despite having full stamina and getting the parry attack, I still got hit by the attack I parried

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also I think I confirmed that force sword push counter attack can trigger perils of the warp if you're already at critical

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boew myself up twice KEKW_ogryn

wind spruce
austere crest
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crushers have really jank reach too

wind spruce
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The devils claw parry will always stop the overhead

austere crest
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Damn no shit?

wind spruce
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But KD means you actually riposte

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You only gain like 10% peril if you perfect parry it aswell lel

austere crest
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I have not had that experience, but now want to go to meat grinder and fuck around and find out

spice veldt
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maybe you parried a different enemy's attack

urban sandal
wind spruce
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like your sword is coming down from the parry animation

spice veldt
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the timing is the same since it works like the block, besidees the perfect parry timing window where the stamina cost is significantly less for parrying a block bypass attack

urban sandal
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I see

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even when I did use the dclaw I never even bothered parrying crusher overheads

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not worth it

spice veldt
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for skullcrusher chads (psyker is too slow to take advantage of the crusher being staggered)

feral verge
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hey everybody, look at arco getting downed at the start of relay station

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in the elevator

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dumb enough to blow himself up with plasma

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cringe

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@spice veldt be better

fading wedge
hushed egret
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maybe only when the parry pushes you over 100% peril, like how parrying more than you have stamina for does?

wind spruce
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Yeah your block can still get broken if you're high peril

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You shouldn't take damage though

spice veldt
feral verge
sharp shoal
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I'm getting ready to do the elite peril kill

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So I'm trying to blow up

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With a elite

lapis harbor
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can you use Brain Rupture instead of unupgraded Brain Burst for Malleus Monstronum?

sharp shoal
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you can

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It just takes longer

lapis harbor
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ok idk what we messed up

sharp shoal
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I don't believe dh counts

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I know beast and ogryn do

lapis harbor
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did it on plague ogryn

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idk why it didn't count

sharp shoal
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Has to be heresy and private game

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You only use bb

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And you have to kill it

lapis harbor
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it says heresy or higher

sharp shoal
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Private game

lapis harbor
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yep

sharp shoal
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I did it the other day

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90% of its health with bb

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Only

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It's a weird penance

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I'm currently doing 300s with Max warp charge and blowing a elite up with peril

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The peril one should be easy

urban sandal
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works on daemonhosts too

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best with a shield ogryn on the team

sharp shoal
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Friend did dh

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It didn't count

wind spruce
sharp shoal
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I did beast and a different friend did og

wind spruce
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Just a thought

sharp shoal
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We got ours

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I could yeah

urban sandal
sharp shoal
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But nobody to wait with

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I had it the other day

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If a ogryn didn't kill a bomber

wind spruce
sharp shoal
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I got 274 of 300

urban sandal
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oh right I forgot about the blaze node

sharp shoal
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Cause a ogryn killed a bomber I was targeting

wind spruce
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Idk I got it ages ago, just seems like it might be worth trying for those that have to do it now it's so hard

sharp shoal
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It's not hard

urban sandal
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I got it naturally last patch on a histg archivum sycorax

sharp shoal
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It's just randoms

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It's fairly simple

eager token
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we did it gang

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i think

sharp shoal
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Nice

wind spruce
eager token
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now what to swap Hmm

wind spruce
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Pls don't remove riposte

eager token
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ya riposte will stay

wind spruce
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Well ya keep riposte and flak and take maniac uncanny

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Simples

eager token
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by god shes perfect

urban sandal
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I'd have swapped riposte personally but I'm not exactly well versed in dueling swords

wind spruce
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I fucking love riposte

sharp shoal
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I'll do that penance with some friends later

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The warp battery

wind spruce
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It procs so much

eager token
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i too am a riposte fan

sharp shoal
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I like precog on deimos

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Ds is fun with smite

wind spruce
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Dodge a mutie? Instant 20% crit

sharp shoal
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No need

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Deimos

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Dodge precog one hit

wind spruce
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Dodge sliding ranged attacks? Instant 20% crit

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I'd love precog too if the duration was longer

sharp shoal
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I got this I put unyielding

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If I get riposte I'll try it

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Atm that's what it rolled as with 0 rerolls

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Its good

wind spruce
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I'm not well versed on the deimos tbh

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But doesn't it already one shot muties with a weakspot hit

sharp shoal
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It has very high single target

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Especially on weakspot

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You can heavy 2 and 1 shot dodge muties

wind spruce
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Without precog?

sharp shoal
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I was sent this

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Deimos in action

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It's also good for monsters

lyric burrow
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one day ill give arco less shit

wind spruce
sharp shoal
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Very nice

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Deimos takes practice

urban sandal
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unless you've played with chainswords n the like

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similar mechanics

sharp shoal
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I like chainsword

urban sandal
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got my first 1m damage run pogryn

wind spruce
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What weapon

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Also you should switch to ovenproofs scoreboard, hate to break it to ya but you will be below 1mil damage due to the bug

magic kayak
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I have a long way to go for that but I did almost get 1k kills on reg damnation

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surge staff is just amazing honestly

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I do want to switch to the other scoreboard

wind spruce
ornate hamlet
wind spruce
ornate hamlet
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surge staff is the exltricity one right?

wind spruce
magic kayak
ornate hamlet
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whats blessings should I look for

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my build if funky ll

wind spruce
magic kayak
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I use this

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the ranged crit chance isn't ideal but it does crit alot so its not horrible

ornate hamlet
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what would be a beter perk instead

magic kayak
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flak damage

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if you can do flak and maniac that's preffered

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the warp charges are important because you run inner tranquility. When you're at 6 stacks, that's 36% less warp generation which lets you shoot a ton of electricity, quell some, and do it again. I don't vent unless it's an emergency really

ornate hamlet
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BB is good?

magic kayak
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BB is ok for long range elite killing, honestly I hardly use it

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you can take a point off empathic evasion if you want the perilous combustion

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but I like the ranged dodge, it really does wonders

ornate hamlet
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gotcha

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ty for the buikld

lethal lagoon
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Can't get more basic bitch than this.

ornate hamlet
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if someone held u at gun point which would be better tho ๐Ÿค”

magic kayak
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yeah big difference is no EE, take PC, and go to kinetic deflection

ornate hamlet
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ill probbaly do both

magic kayak
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I don't find myself blocking that often to be honest for KD. For PC I feel like 3 stacks realy isn't that much damage

lethal lagoon
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I also don't really use KD that often.

magic kayak
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yeah

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now if you're using force sword with deflector, I'd probably put KD back on

lethal lagoon
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KD is good for all scenarios really, esp if you haven't learned boss movements or proper positioning.

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You can get out of huge mistakes with KD

magic kayak
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agreed. Or if you accidentally aggro a DH

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deflector is also an amazing blessing if you find yourself in the open with gunners raining hell on yu

lethal lagoon
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KD is also good for clutches, if you are solo and your team is dead, but that's not too helpful for someone new ๐Ÿ˜…

magic kayak
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I took battle meditation here also because I ended up being able to lightning for days

lethal lagoon
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BM conflicts with peril edging is the primary problem

wind spruce
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Battle meditation is so mid, you kill 100 enemies and you get back one full peril bar. Big woop

magic kayak
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well, 10% plus 36% is more like 13.6% peril

urban sandal
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rending trauma

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and ds4

lethal lagoon
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Oh hmm, even on my biggest kill missions, I only get back like 15 peril bars. I never thought about it like that.

magic kayak
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peril edging isn't effected too badly by it I don't find, it's not much

magic kayak
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honestly I haven't messed with this build in awhile, I might take off BM and warp expenditure

lethal lagoon
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Still gonna run it on my meme smite builds, might rethink it else where.

magic kayak
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don't even know why I have WE on here

lethal lagoon
hushed egret
magic kayak
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the other way to look at BM though, is 1 in 10 kills, which is nearly 3 casts of surge staff puts you down below 100% peril

ornate hamlet
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dsamn

magic kayak
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so if I cast and end up at 100%, now I have to quell, but if BM goes off I can just cast again

lethal lagoon
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But you are typically spamming flaming shriek on a surge build ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

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At least I am

magic kayak
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I keep my stacks at 6 as long as possible

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I can prioritize elites and disablers etc, then vent if I accidentally am about to pop or if it's a situation where people are down and horde needs to die

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losing that 36% peril generation reduction hurts

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plus you get 24% base damage at 6 stacks too

ornate hamlet
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should i go pc?

lethal lagoon
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As in perilous combustion or PC as in computer KEKW_ogryn

ornate hamlet
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perilous

lethal lagoon
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Perilous combustion, Surge, and Flaming Shriek are salt and pepper.

wind spruce
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Perilous combustion is great

magic kayak
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yeah I just swapped out warp expenditure for PC

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that was a mistake when I was moving points around

dense bear
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What weapons do you guys typically use alongside this talent build? (sorry been following along)

magic kayak
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surge staff specifically. melee is up to you

eager token
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surge staff + melee of choice

magic kayak
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I'm using this

dense bear
lethal lagoon
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That Mk4 ^ is thumbsup_ogryn

eager token
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i love kinetic deflection + deflector too much ๐Ÿ˜ญ

dense bear
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Appreciate it! Super new and trying to wrap my head around space schizo

magic kayak
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yeah force sword is my first love, but dueling sword is my younger lover lol

lethal lagoon
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Surge staff is a good starting point, it tends to be a hit or miss with people though.

eager token
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yea im just getting into dueling swords they're p nice

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love surge

magic kayak
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this is my gunker ranged weapon of choice lol

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the perks and blessings arent done yet, trying to unlock them

wind spruce
lethal lagoon
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Agrippa just doesn't feel like it syngerizes with psyker that well.

eager token
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gunker is so stupid man

magic kayak
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it does with gunker!

dense bear
lethal lagoon
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Columbus mk5 is wild, definitely going to get nerfed.

eager token
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ya deservedly so

magic kayak
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yeah mk5 columbus is silly

lethal lagoon
eager token
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voidstrike just shoots giant bowling balls its hilarious

magic kayak
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this caxe is ridiculous too for melee, I end up cleaving through hordes easier than my zealot when scriers gaze is up

eager token
lethal lagoon
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I mean all the staves are good, but are they fun for you personally, definitely varies.

eager token
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but prob just a vibes thing

magic kayak
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the dsiv is nice range honestly, the heavy pokes pretty far

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I poke crushers in the face and dash backwards

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while yelling "have at thee cur!"

lethal lagoon
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ds4 is overtuned to a high degree, I'm surprised it's lasted so long.

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3 pokes to kill a crusher is wild

magic kayak
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haha I mean, force sword can do it in one blow

wet belfry
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DS is limited by being tied to a psyker.

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Zealot with DS would be horrifying.

ornate hamlet
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i have one point left what should i throw it on

lethal lagoon
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DS is limited because if other classes had it they wouldn't use anything else KEKW_ogryn

magic kayak
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force sword is also amazing with the push back and the h2 knocks down crushers like a force staff

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zealot with DS would be bae

lethal lagoon
urban sandal
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one of the dueling swords needs a parry angymorrow

magic kayak
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yeah it's sacriligious that it doesn't already

ornate hamlet
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whats ds4

magic kayak
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dueling sword mkiv

lethal lagoon
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Dueling sword mark 4

urban sandal
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mk4 dueling sword

wet belfry
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Though i likely have a higher success rate with knife then DS4

magic kayak
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I win.

eager token
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embrace tank psyker memes

magic kayak
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with uncanny blessing?

rich jolt
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Fastest draw

eager token
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tanker?? psytank??

ornate hamlet
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it doesnt let me post screenshots

wind spruce
rich jolt
eager token
lethal lagoon
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Maybe you have to do the server rules thing

eager token
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yo thats a hammer

magic kayak
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how is that a hammer

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If I can shoot lightning out of my hammer like thor... I want to do that.

eager token
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surge force hammer

lethal lagoon
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It's a secret beta skin for being the first 100 players to beat t5

magic kayak
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Imagine zealot psyker where thammer shoots surge out of it

lethal lagoon
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It's hammer time

magic kayak
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and you can cast smite as alt fire

eager token
wind spruce
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Did you know that destroying barrels gets you more ordo dockets

lethal lagoon
eager token
lethal lagoon
#

No twinsis ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

rich jolt
urban sandal
#

only if you blow your teammates off a cliff

wind spruce
#

I never joke

rich jolt
lethal lagoon
magic kayak
#

the hidden op is psyker's pickpocket ability

eager token
#

i like my double 69 stats though

lethal lagoon
#

I've been really liking unyielding on surge

wind spruce
#

69 penetration whatthefuck_heresy

lethal lagoon
#

When you don't have a boss buster on your team, it does the job well.

ornate hamlet
#

i think i need the convict role

magic kayak
#

have you guys unlocked the secret achievement where you burst your own head inside a beast of nurgle? it's instakill on the monster

wind spruce
lethal lagoon
ornate hamlet
#

lol

magic kayak
#

Yeah I didn't even know you could do that

lethal lagoon
#

I would have assumed that you wouldn't be able to chat or do anything or even see the channels

ornate hamlet
#

whack

lethal lagoon
#

Like most servers don't you have to read the rules or respond to the bot that messages you or something?

ornate hamlet
#

think i can dm one of yll my build then? the surge staff build is a boss buster right?

magic kayak
#

I mean, it does ok on bosses

lethal lagoon
#

I wouldn't call Surge staff a boss buster lmao

magic kayak
#

yeah more like a french tickler

ornate hamlet
#

just good at killing?

lethal lagoon
#

Psyker isn't really a boss guy, but surge does okay compared to other options.

magic kayak
#

it's going to pop people from a distance, stun them, and generally be an amazing tool because it auto aims

dawn spoke
#

the only way you're doing good boss damage on psyker is a gun

lethal lagoon
#

If you want a surge build, just run the one I linked, no need to think too much.

magic kayak
#

yeah gunker. I do 30-40k on bosses with my revolver

long wharf
#

surge staff tickles bosses the way freddy kreuger would if you replaced his knives with baseball bats

magic kayak
#

nerf bats

long wharf
#

I mean, the damage is technically noticeable, but nothing to write home about

lethal lagoon
magic kayak
#

its no one shot zealot thammer build thats for sure

eager token
#

i live for shooting beasts of nurgle in the back with gunker or revolver vet

magic kayak
#

same. very satisfying

#

I like the quickdraw because its meme

eager token
lethal lagoon
magic kayak
#

what do I need to swap this stam for?

#

flak/maniac?

#

i want crucian but it wont drop for me

magic kayak
lethal lagoon
ornate hamlet
#

aight heres my build

magic kayak
lethal lagoon
ornate hamlet
#

i got one point left tho

magic kayak
#

your extra point can go to either crit chance, or toughness, etc

ornate hamlet
#

gotch ty

lethal lagoon
#

Crit chance is a good option, so is 15 toughness.

magic kayak
#

uh oh hes red boys

lethal lagoon
#

If you are running toughness curios, the 15 toughness might give you more value

magic kayak
#

yeah agreed

#

I do the 3 stam, max hp, max toughness for mine

ornate hamlet
#

no wounds?

wind spruce
# ornate hamlet

You have 5% ranged damage as an option but idk how people feel about that

lethal lagoon
#

Wounds are... meh.

ornate hamlet
#

i think crit with surge would go crazy so im porbably gonna invest in that

#

im trynna get 1 mil damage

magic kayak
#

yeah wounds dont really do much for psyker

ornate hamlet
#

gotcha

magic kayak
#

I've wondered about that ranged damage too, if its base or not. otherwise seems pretty bad

lethal lagoon
#

You aren't gonna get 1 mil damage with Surge BB unless it's a melee maelstrom.

ornate hamlet
#

damn

lethal lagoon
#

Melee maelstroms you can just spam surge and do well

magic kayak
#

its also really hard to do 1 mill dmg on any build

ornate hamlet
#

what build is an option then ๐Ÿค”

magic kayak
#

especially if team is doing well

lethal lagoon
#

For non-melee maelstrom 1 mil?

#

Columbus Assail is probably your best bet

#

Blaze trauma works too, but is harder.

magic kayak
#

purg staff

#

with wildfire.

ornate hamlet
#

damn

#

errrr

magic kayak
#

๐Ÿ˜‚

orchid shadow
#

Don't you basically have to have 2 useless teammates so you can do all the damage that they would normally do to do 1mil?

magic kayak
#

yeah basically

ornate hamlet
#

god damn

#

would i still put in work with the surge staf build?? im just trynna carry

magic kayak
#

you can def carry with surge staff

ornate hamlet
#

pogo

orchid shadow
#

There's only so much stuff to kill on a map, unless you're dawdling and letting the AI director throw hordes at you.

wet belfry
#

Surge is mid at best

magic kayak
wet belfry
#

It isnt the single target monster of some guns and it doesnt have the horde clear of other staffs.

magic kayak
#

I don't think that makes it mid though

ornate hamlet
#

no wild file?

magic kayak
#

nah not wild fire I was joking about that

#

surge has good range, stuns 3 enemies at once and body blocks those behind them

wet belfry
#

Well guns bring more to the table while higher single target dps.

magic kayak
#

I don't disagree, gunker is awesome

wet belfry
#

Ex my gun build on psyker buffs duelling sword alot.

magic kayak
#

but I don't think gunker is good for someone learning the game really

wet belfry
#

While my surge build has to near solely focus on surge to hit BPS

ornate hamlet
#

bps?

orchid shadow
#

I guess that's it everyone. No one play surge staff anymore and try to get on Wilmer's level. ๐Ÿ˜›

wind spruce
#

Breakpoints

wet belfry
#

Breakpoints

magic kayak
#

lol

ornate hamlet
#

oh gotcha

#

whats gunker

wind spruce
#

Gun psyker

magic kayak
#

the true end game.

ornate hamlet
#

oh i love that yeah thats what i run most of the time

#

i try to buff my smite with the 2 other damage buffs then i use it

magic kayak
#

surge staff is good because it autoaims, you can reach out and tickle people from a distance, it's reliable, no ammo usage, and it crits a lot. It's a steady build. I wouldn't use it for auric maelstrom though but it can be done

ornate hamlet
#

i use EP with those stackked 5 each and i deal damage B) or at least it feels like it

wind spruce
#

These takes are absolute bananas. Surge is not mid and is absolutely auric maelstrom ready

ornate hamlet
#

wait sorry to interrupt but

#

should i not go bubble then? i have bubble on my

#

smite build

magic kayak
#

no no, the gun is way better so nothing else can be viable

ornate hamlet
#

my OG build

magic kayak
#

bubble is fine if you dont act silly and place it in weird spots.

orchid shadow
#

It's fine in auric maelstrom. When you use surge, you have to deal with the fact that you have to tailor each part of your build to specialize. It's not going to be like Void where you can do horde and single target in one package.

wet belfry
#

If surge gets outperformed by another playstyle in the same role isnt that the defintion of being mid?

ornate hamlet
#

my bubblrd are nutsd

onyx lotus
#

Does the "Blessed by Fate" penance require me to not upgrade Psykinetic's Wrath to Venting Shriek?

magic kayak
#

not really. I think mid is purg staff

#

plus cmkv is pretty overtuned right now

wet belfry
#

Surge isnt a top tier because other weapons are top tier.

magic kayak
#

If you put gunker in S, I'd put surge in A

ornate hamlet
#

whats cmkv. sorry i have so many questions

#

im new to late game

magic kayak
#

columbus mk v

orchid shadow
magic kayak
#

I need a good one

ornate hamlet
#

why are these names this way lol

#

ty

lethal lagoon
#

Warhammer lore

lethal lagoon
magic kayak
#

lol something I got as mission reward

covert rune
#

Is it just me or is the venting shriek have a little less pushback than in the older builds?
I'm just asking since I'm trying to do the cliffhanger achievement and I'm finding some difficulties.

magic kayak
#

best way is the mission with those bridges and the hordes that come at you while youre in the middle, cant remember what its called

lethal lagoon
orchid shadow
#

That's Vigil Station finale

ornate hamlet
#

what blessings and perks should i have for the cmkv

magic kayak
#

thats the one

lethal lagoon
#

DumDum Fire frenzy

magic kayak
#

perks are what on it?

wet belfry
ornate hamlet
#

dum dum,b?

magic kayak
#

is my gun even worth rerolling?

ornate hamlet
#

also ty

lethal lagoon
magic kayak
#

maybe I'll get lucky, this one seems like a good base

lethal lagoon
orchid shadow
covert rune
lethal lagoon
#

That's what I was told, I never personally checked though

#

I just did hab dreyko and spammed force sword push on the ending pipe

wet belfry
#

Pushback should be tied to peril

lethal lagoon
#

Pushback was tied to warp charges back in the day

covert rune
#

Is it tied to both warp charges and peril now?

lethal lagoon
#

No fucking clue

magic kayak
#

is this blessing fodder?

#

I have never used this gun but I never hear about it so feel like its not worth the time

lethal lagoon
#

Columbus crit strings are just too overwhelming on psyker.

ornate hamlet
#

okay i got dumdum

#

ima see if i can get fire frenzy

magic kayak
#

well that was quick.

ornate hamlet
#

i dropped almost all of my ordos for a decen columbus

#

i got superl ucky first roll tho

lethal lagoon
wind spruce
lethal lagoon
#

Guy who made the build posted a bunch of scoreboards with 1 mil+ since that's what you are into lmao.

ornate hamlet
#

ty for advice yall are awesome

magic kayak
#

nice build. personally I like the caxe though for horde clear

ornate hamlet
#

i got raking fire

magic kayak
#

I mean look at this beauty

lethal lagoon
#

DumDum is the important part

#

If you wanna try running it.

#

DumDum, +25% Flak damage, are the important factors.

ornate hamlet
#

gotcha yeah ima try to see if i can swap it with something else but im excited bceause ive been looking for a good gun for my smite build

#

gotcha

wet belfry
#

Scriers gaze can be used like a second keystone.

wet belfry
#

With enough cooldown reduction it has around a 40% uptime ingame

#

Then theres also the scriers gaze stacks staying for another period ingame.

ornate hamlet
#

savcing that one

#

wheres gaze at im having trouble finding it lol

lethal lagoon
#

Bottom right, horizontal from shriek.

dawn spoke
#

that psychic sniper build... ๐Ÿ‘Œ

#

rolled an incredibly good vraks 7 and tried it out

#

I'm sad the kantrael XII is better for it tho

#

it's better than my veteran's v7 even

lethal lagoon
#

Just turn the revolver into an actual sniper with the weapon custom mod whatthefuck_heresy

magic kayak
#

I copied telopots build for my gunker

#

I definitely like disrupt destiny for the simple fact that it keeps my movement speed up

ornate hamlet
#

this gun is nasty

#

lol

#

i get my stacks so easy with it

flint aspen
#

Surge with Disrupt Destiny?

lethal lagoon
#

Uhh, if you are LMB memeing, sure.

#

With right click it's meh.

magic kayak
#

that would be a very interesting combo. Feel like void would be the one for that

lethal lagoon
#

DD isn't that great on void because it encourages you to not go after bowling alleys at tmes.

magic kayak
#

I sometimes wonder if Purg with DD would make sense simply because everything will die close to you anyways

#

yeah I guess that's true if you tend to focus on the marked enemy

deep pine
#

How is ammo on the gunker build

lethal lagoon
#

Assail is there to help with ammo economy.

#

So quite rough lmao

magic kayak
#

does anyone know if cruel fortune only adds 2 stacks of DD if you weakspot kill the marked target?

#

wording is not specific

wet belfry
#

3

lethal lagoon
#

It should be 3

#

yeah

magic kayak
#

but it only affects killing marked target right?

lethal lagoon
#

Yep

magic kayak
#

the way it's written makes it sound like you'd get 2 stacks off weakspot kills even on non marked enemies

lethal lagoon
#

That would be wildly ridiculous but fun lmao.

magic kayak
#

haha yeah for sure

#

void strike bowling ball abunch of heads...

eager token
#

purgatus enjoyers rise up

#

budget smite

limber silo
#

"budget" smite

#

purge is way better than smite

#

it actually does damage

#

and still staggers

silent socket
#

Question: What are the differences between all the force swords-

limber silo
#

Deimos is single target, Illisi is hordes

#

Obscurus doesn't exist anymore

silent socket
#

Okay-

rich jolt
#

Obscurus is also used for single target but its just a worse deimos

midnight epoch
#

knife

flint aspen
#

what makes it a worse deimos

limber silo
#

Worse penetration, worse combos

#

The is no benefit to obscurus right now

spice veldt
#

it has the same adms as the other two force swords

wind spruce
#

With assail and creeping flames maintaining stacks ain't too hard

spice veldt
#

the obscurus just lacks a heavy stab and has one of the most god awful fucking lights

plucky flax
#

Does the +5% range damage node increase burn damage? I think not right?

#

Just tested anyway it d oesn't.

near wyvern
shy prairie
#

I will chase the blues nonetheless

plucky flax
#

I'm taking this build I inspected a guy in my morning star.

#

What toughness regen? whatthefuck_heresy

indigo portal
#

You already get toughness for breathing what is that

plucky flax
#

Guy was lvl 319 so his build must be good.

#

EP BB + bubble + toughness galore. pogryn

near wyvern
#

So what's the game plan just sit in bubble and BB all day?

#

I bet they quell all the way after hitting 100 when spamming BB

lyric burrow
lethal lagoon
lethal lagoon
ornate hamlet
#

which is void

lethal lagoon
#

Voidstrike?

plucky flax
#

It's with purga staff.

#

So I guess bb and advance with purga

#

And bubble

ornate hamlet
#

yeah

lethal lagoon
#

I don't get what you are asking KEKW_ogryn

plucky flax
lethal lagoon
#

It's peak psyker gaming.

#

But don't run bubble

plucky flax
#

Oh this is bb ep build though.

#

And bubble.

#

I must run bubble.

lethal lagoon
ornate hamlet
#

wheres void strike on skill treee

#

i am slow

lethal lagoon
#

Voidstrike is a staff

ornate hamlet
#

LOL

#

oh that explains a lot

#

is it the aoe gound slam?

#

or explosive projectil;e

lethal lagoon
#

Latter

ornate hamlet
#

whats the worst class in your honest opinion

plucky flax
#

Psyker of course whatthefuck_heresy

lethal lagoon
#

If the goal is only "winning the highest difficulty", then probably vet or zealot.

#

Ogryn is easy mode, and psyker has so many tools to make the game easier.

#

But you can't just say "worst class" without a clear criteria for what you are judging.

plucky flax
#

Like bubble and smite. pogryn

ornate hamlet
#

i mean personality wise

elder glade
#

Personality?

ornate hamlet
#

yeah of the vets

#

๐Ÿค”

lethal lagoon
#

50% of zealots just rush in, get trapped, get downed, repeat till they rage quit.(TBF, I'm not being that serious)

#

So probably zealots

ornate hamlet
#

ogryns the best?

silent socket
#

Is this good so far

lethal lagoon
elder glade
#

I would kind of agree with zealots tbh. I've had more negative interactions with zealots than any other class, but that's only by a small margin and mostly because the people playing them in those cases have no concept of this thing called "situational awareness".

ornate hamlet
#

LOL

lethal lagoon
#

If we are going by negative interactions, then last place on the scoreboard is #1 by far

unique mist
lethal lagoon
#

No one complains more in voice chat than last place on the scoreboard

unique mist
#

traxis something something shut the fuck up

lethal lagoon
#

No one flames more either

elder glade
#

STAND UP AND FIGHT

silent socket
unique mist
#

vet is easily the worst class IMO in terms of voicelines/personality

silent socket
#

I dont know if this is a good sword or not and I came to psyker chat for a reason-

lethal lagoon
#

The blessings is 0 or 100 depending on your desires.

wind spruce
elder glade
#

How to get shot in two seconds

silent socket
lethal lagoon
#

Ask for advice, ignores advice

#

I shouldn't have replied honestly.

silent socket
lethal lagoon
silent socket
#

Would extra rations make up for it?

lethal lagoon
#

Yeah

wind spruce
unique mist
silent socket
elder glade
#

Dodge slide is your friend

elder glade
#

Dodge slide

unique mist
silent socket
#

*Gunners from all angles-

elder glade
#

Dodge slide

silent socket
#

And that mutant from arizona-

lethal lagoon
#

Gunner survival is something you learn over time thumbsup_ogryn

unique mist
#

say dodge slide 1 more time

elder glade
#

Dodge slide

wind spruce
#

Dodge slide 1 more time

#

Did I do it right

elder glade
#

I think so

lethal lagoon
#

No

silent socket
lethal lagoon
#

You typed it, you didn't say it

elder glade
#

Ah

#

Darn

wind spruce
wind spruce
lethal lagoon
ornate hamlet
#

what damage resisrts should I have?

unique mist
#

2x gunner

lethal lagoon
#

40% gunner, 40% sniper is what I run.

wind spruce
#

Poxhounds and mutants

unique mist
#

that's all imo

lethal lagoon
#

The true meta

unique mist
#

snipers are easier to dodge

#

so i'd rather run somethinge else

lethal lagoon
#

Snipers that are targetting other players and then quick swap to you are undodgeable

ornate hamlet
#

whpoa

lethal lagoon
#

Anyways, its definitely personal choice, I personally don't like 1 mistake(that's not a mistake) nuking a whole game

#

But 40% gunner resist at least is meta by far

ornate hamlet
#

ill stock up on gunner resist

#

i got resist for every sopecialist that tilts me when im doing runs just by expereince

wind spruce
#

I like 2 gunners 1 sniper 3 combat regen and 3 toughness a lot of the time

lethal lagoon
#

I like

elder glade
#

Dopamine

lethal lagoon
#

Real talk, I wish there was a keystone I could hit while having these stats

#

I've wanted 200 toughness like an oldschool vet on psyker forever

wind spruce
lethal lagoon
#

220 HP though

ornate hamlet
#

damn howd u get that

#

wilddddd

lethal lagoon
#

L33t Hacks

ornate hamlet
#

truly

wind spruce
#

such sad

visual estuary
#

Alright, need some advice, is trauma still viable?

#

I kinda missed big explody

lethal lagoon
#

Blaze Trama is ridiculous

elder glade
#

Me with only 140 165

visual estuary
#

I'll try it

#

What kind of melee?

lethal lagoon
#

mk4

visual estuary
#

Alright, going to try this out and take a look at blessing and see what we find

lethal lagoon
# visual estuary Alright, going to try this out and take a look at blessing and see what we find

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmMGD1ev5rE Just copy them, they have a bunch of blaze trauma vids

Using Mk5 duelling sword for fast movement and repositioning. More vulnerable to shooters without deflector but it's very comfy to kite monster and dodge muties.
Patch 1.2.22
Smelter Complex HL-17-36 ยท Strike ยท Damnation ยท Hi-Intensity Shock Troop Gauntlet (Hunting Grounds)
Loadout: Mk V Duelling Sword / Brain Rupture / Force Trauma Staff

00:00...

โ–ถ Play video
visual estuary
#

Wait, I've been using Mk V

wind spruce
lethal lagoon
#

Oh they are also using mk 5 in that video, cough cough, ignore me

wind spruce
#

looks like this

visual estuary
#

Mk V with uncanny strike with rampage

lethal lagoon
#

mk 5 has a really nice dodge slide

visual estuary
#

But those blessings might not be so good.

lethal lagoon
#

But combat wise it's super mid

visual estuary
#

Yea that's what I love about it.

lethal lagoon
#

Compared to mk4

visual estuary
#

Still easy to dodge with mk4?

lethal lagoon
#

But with blaze trauma you are using blaze trauma 95-99% of the time

visual estuary
#

And how's the cleave?

#

Yea

lethal lagoon
#

What cleave? That's what the blaze trauma is for

visual estuary
#

Basically kinda what I do with voidstrike anyway

#

So basically play like I play voidstrike except splosion comes from ground

lethal lagoon
wind spruce
#

@lethal lagoon peak

lethal lagoon
elder glade
lethal lagoon
#

So opposite of peak

wind spruce
#

Fair lmao

lethal lagoon
#

I also have that

#

But I don't like it

wind spruce
#

beat me to it

lethal lagoon
#

It doesn't have the same visceral satisfaction as 200 toughness.

wind spruce
#

nah 200 220 is peak

#

u r right

lethal lagoon
#

Beat you to it by about 2 months KEKW_ogryn

wind spruce
#

bitch i showed u that

lethal lagoon
plucky flax
#

Damn I do really low damage.

#

But I think I'm helping. :>

lethal lagoon
#

Average Bubble Smiter Copium

hearty oak
plucky flax
#

I took very little damage though.

#

And bubble during melee only horde was surely helping team. :>

hearty oak
#

Yeah for the snipers in my melee only melstrom

plucky flax
#

All the toughness regen nodes were useless too.

#

Very based build.

strong gulch
#

Now do double wall and randomly place it for more EP BB.

plucky flax
#

But I actually killed a fair amount of specials with ep bb.

#

Way more than I normally do just running stock bb.

tribal sparrow
#

is the tickle fingers ability any good?

#

(sparky zap zap)

plucky flax
#

Yes.

hearty oak
#

When will they buff shield wall to be able to kill stuff upon placement

plucky flax
#

It's good if you combine it with creeping flames.,

#

So you can actually do damage. Otherwise it'd just stun, which is still good, but not as good.

hearty oak
tribal sparrow
hearty oak
#

On gunker? its ehhh... questionable. Im more DPS focused so the tasing of enemies just seems pointless if i could just kill them with shards

strong gulch
#

Smite is good for utility and CC. It's easy to fall into the trap of just holding down the smite and you just stand there... forever.

elder glade
#

Please don't be that person

Please CatCry

lethal lagoon
#

๐Ÿ™

#

Let them suffer not

#

Why weakspot?

#

Why Crit?

#

Is that not unjust suffering?

tribal sparrow
lethal lagoon
#

๐Ÿ“ฟ

elder glade
lethal lagoon
#

๐Ÿ™

#

I need an Ogryn saying "A'men" before brutally killing someone.

strong gulch
#

Smite gunker is fine. Less damage, but it's fine. I'd only take it on ammo efficient guns like the older revolver. But then you have to really lean into your melee.

#

A man. smash