#psyker-class

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earnest laurel
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If I dont do that, my whole team dies. Welcome to the average team buddy. I dont trust my team to hold off 4 ragers and 2 ogryns . I am going to smite them every time.

flint plover
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Some say it's worthless, some say it's vital

long wharf
flint plover
long wharf
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you're smiting the elites in the horde

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different scenario

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buddy.

earnest laurel
long wharf
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doesn't matter

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the horde is incidental in your stated situation

earnest laurel
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What difficulty are you playing? Because I have hordes spawning quite a bit.

long wharf
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I play all of them

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more often PUGs these days, as my regular group doesn't play Darktide so much any more

latent hill
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Umm… I think the only unyeilding enemies are bulwarks so choose something else

long wharf
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so, as I said before, smiting the horde is generally a waste of time when you could be killing it instead

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holding a horde still so a teammate can kill it is a waste of time

latent hill
long wharf
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and you're making it harder on the teammate because now the horde isn't coming to them

long wharf
latent hill
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You know, the assail blitz? Using that on the horde?

flint plover
long wharf
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you haven't actually clarified anything

latent hill
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Do you not know what assail is?

umbral helm
long wharf
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what kind of response are you expecting? "No, never use an attack to clear the horde"

flint plover
latent hill
lethal lagoon
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They run toward the front of a horde actively moving towards them, versus a spread out stationary horde that requires them to go further and further away.

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There's a big diference between mowing the lawn and pulling weeds

flint plover
long wharf
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not only that, a player pushing into a horde is most often doing so at a chokepoint

latent hill
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Oh for sure.

flint plover
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"weak points"

long wharf
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which means teammates will push past the chokepoint into the thick of the horde, getting themselves surrounded

flint plover
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damn it assail projectile, go back to school

lethal lagoon
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That said, you can absolutely horde clear with smite whatthefuck_heresy
But should you?

harsh urchin
long wharf
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the answer is - not if you have a working horde clear weapon

harsh urchin
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But if you keep playing darktide once you start doing harder content

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You'll see what they mean lol

earnest laurel
long wharf
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oh, spicy, aren't we

harsh urchin
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Ye aurics are ez tho

ornate hamlet
harsh urchin
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I gave up on quickplaying aurics for the 10% extra loot

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And now i only queue straight into histg and maels

long wharf
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aurics aren't worth the time

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they're fun with premades

earnest laurel
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Auric maelstrom is what I meant

harsh orchid
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ran into a lvl15 on an auric one time

earnest laurel
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And see

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with premades

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this is what I mean

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play with randoms for once

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and see what I mean

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exactly

harsh urchin
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Well I queue witu randos

earnest laurel
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knew it

harsh urchin
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Lmao

long wharf
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I PUG frequently? I said this already

ornate hamlet
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I olay with randoms without smite all the time

long wharf
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are your IQ points well below average?

earnest laurel
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I higly doubt you do

ornate hamlet
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My anecdotal evidence is better than yours because it's mine

lethal lagoon
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Smite absolutely has no bearing on Auric mael success, you are having some serious main character syndrome

earnest laurel
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Oh boy, an internet psychologist

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you must feel very smart

harsh urchin
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Look man, smite is good in certain situations when you need to hold a few crushers and maulers in place to buy space

long wharf
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if nobody you play with ever tells you to stop freezing the horde so they can clear it easier, then you've been done a grave disservice

harsh urchin
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But its completely trash 95% of the time

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When people are using it all the time

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It just makes things harder

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And annoying

long wharf
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smite is a noobtrap

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except when used intelligently

lethal lagoon
ornate hamlet
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Smite spam is the carpenter that uses a hammer for everything

flint plover
harsh urchin
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Ye i think its good

flint plover
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and I've had scenarios where people look at 7 maulers and 4 crushers and just wet their pants, apparently

harsh urchin
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But ppl who use it all game

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As their primary skill

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Just fucking suck

long wharf
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I ran some damnations earlier today, and after a few surge staff runs, I went back to void

midnight jolt
long wharf
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surge just doesn't feel good

ornate hamlet
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Smite saves games, the problem is people who think the game needs to be saved every 5 seconds

latent hill
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This is usually why I use the dueling sword

lethal lagoon
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Everyone playing this game has some degree of "IamTheMainCharacter", and it tends to be more heavily featured on people thinking they are carrying the game with smite.

latent hill
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Sticking to that most of the damn time these days

lethal lagoon
plucky flax
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Me idc what people run whatthefuck_heresy

ornate hamlet
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At this point "support build" triggers me

long wharf
flint plover
lethal lagoon
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Yes 🙂

plucky flax
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Just enjoy the game lads

lethal lagoon
plucky flax
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I will carry with surge smite nooooo

latent hill
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Enjoying something in 40k is a damn luxury.

lethal lagoon
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"I" is the main point there though

flint plover
plucky flax
ornate hamlet
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I mean, I tolerate smite spam

long wharf
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I ran with two groups that played pretty well, and for both of those games, I just wasn't killing elites with surge

plucky flax
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I think I won't do contracts next week.

ornate hamlet
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It's when I see them dying to basic shit or lacking any awareness that pisses me off

rare arrow
long wharf
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I'd get, at best, two full charges off and then a teammate would finish the enemy

lethal lagoon
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The braincells die fast though

long wharf
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surge needs to do more damage

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and I'm tired of pretending it doesn't

lethal lagoon
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I agree buff surge, it doesn't do enough whatthefuck_heresy

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Buff it NOW

long wharf
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"It's my damage, and I want it NOW!"

ornate hamlet
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Peoole using it are fine, but there are so many people believing they are smite gods and then fucking everything aside from holding RMB and LMB

long wharf
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"Call 1-877-DPSNAOW for your damage, today!"

ornate hamlet
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Certified training wheels moment

lethal lagoon
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When the smite spammer with 200k damage backseats you at 600k after dying
whatthefuck_heresy

plucky flax
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Nono

lethal lagoon
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Also I wanna run into another high DPS smite user, I've never seen anyone else get high damage with it.(in game)

plucky flax
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Come

ornate hamlet
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There was that annoying mouse guy

rare arrow
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If you take venting your smite build can deal very respectable damage

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Though, it’s not because of smite

long wharf
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yeah, it's not a "smite build"

lethal lagoon
ornate hamlet
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The one getting good damage with fire shriek and revolver

lethal lagoon
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Actual smite build

long wharf
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it's a "build up peril and vent" build

lethal lagoon
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I meant in-game though

rare arrow
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Yea and your options are to hold a lot of things in place while you build

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Or a couple things

ornate hamlet
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In-game they only show up once in my lobbies chadgryn

rare arrow
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Also, surge can’t one shot some specials with a high roll (though, does require crit)

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Typically it’s 2 shots

plucky flax
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Imagine if they buff surfe

rare arrow
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But also taking the fire talents makes it pretty fun

plucky flax
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That's a buff to me whatthefuck_heresy

ornate hamlet
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Surfe

rare arrow
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Remember when surge dipped into the buffs that hit smite?

long wharf
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meanwhile, I can whip out my void staff and one-shot in the face multiple elites

plucky flax
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My phone sus

long wharf
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gunners

rare arrow
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And smite was throwing 2-3ks around

long wharf
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that was the only time the surge staff felt good to me since patch 13

plucky flax
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Different playstyle I guess. I'd much rather play surge than void

rare arrow
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Feels good to me now

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I am a void staff promoter, but smite is still very good

long wharf
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I want it to do more damage, so it doesn't take three charges to kill crushers, maulers, etc

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taking two full charges to stun mutants works, but I'd be much happier with just one

rare arrow
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3 charges for a crusher is probably fair

long wharf
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the biggest problem is that the surge staff doesn't have a clear identity

ornate hamlet
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Remember when it had a noticeably high modifier against flak and carapace?

long wharf
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it's not a dps staff

rare arrow
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They can’t move when it hits so I don’t think it needs to kill them faster

plucky flax
long wharf
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it's not a CC staff

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it's not a burst damage staff

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it jacks off all the trades

rare arrow
long wharf
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but never finishes

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leaving you blueballed

ornate hamlet
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It's an ezaim staff with some CC and some burst and fast charge

long wharf
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I liked the CC surge staff pre-13

rare arrow
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Right? It deals good damage is great cc and charges fast

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Everyone liked the staff pre-13

long wharf
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it's not "great" CC though

rare arrow
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It was the only thing anyone used and hit 6 targets

long wharf
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you can stun 2 things

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2

rare arrow
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3

plucky flax
long wharf
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big whoop

rare arrow
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Or 4 if the talent works for it, but 3 for sure.

long wharf
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talents don't apply to surge staff any more

rare arrow
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That’s 3 crusher, 3 rager, 3 bulwark etc while also killing them

long wharf
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except you don't get to pick the extra targets

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you can't make it 3 crushers if there are other enemies around them

plucky flax
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I can't aim so I can't play void. Simple as whatthefuck_heresy

long wharf
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it might be 3 crushers, it might be 1 crusher and two walkers

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and when there are more than 3 things coming at you, stunning 3 out of 40 is almost pointless

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that's why I call it poor CC

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not to mention, you're only doing full damage to the primary target

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half damage for each hop after

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means you aren't even killing trash without critting on the second+ hop

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on top of that, void can do something no other staff can do

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stagger-lock bosses

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there's so much opportunity cost to taking surge that it's just not worth it

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not when I'm actually trying during a run

ornate hamlet
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Is that for Malice or lower difficulty as well?

long wharf
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what?

ornate hamlet
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Oops lol wrong chat. Apologies. 😄

lethal lagoon
lethal lagoon
long wharf
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give surge a 25% damage buff

lethal lagoon
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🙂

long wharf
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to account for the fact that it doesn't cleave anything

lethal lagoon
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That could potentially give it defacto one-shots for shotgunners and gunners

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Which is a bit wild

long wharf
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I'm okay with that

umbral helm
long wharf
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classic FartShack

lethal lagoon
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Was RadioShack a bad store?

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I don't think I literally ever went to one

long wharf
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depends on when you went

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in its hayday, RadioShack had everything electronics

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which was great

lethal lagoon
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I lived next to a microcenter KEKW_ogryn

long wharf
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as they declined (online shopping became a thing), they began selling phones and phone plans

flint plover
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circuit city!

long wharf
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and it was straight downhill from there

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I grew up 20 minutes from a Fry's Electronics in Cali

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god I miss that place

flint plover
lethal lagoon
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The apartment I grew up in was a 1 minute walk from a blockbusters thumbsup_ogryn

long wharf
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many fond memories of going to Fry's

lethal lagoon
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Sadge, I reinstalled custom weapon mod today and discovered it makes the surge staff lightning all wonky

zinc phoenix
rare arrow
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I only use the scoreboard mod

zinc phoenix
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Idk why every smiter I see does one of two things:
* hold forever on everything including random pox walkers
* only smites against crushers even if it’s just one and they’re dead in seconds

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Like, you can hold for a four beat and knock over literally everything except monstrosities or shove pox burster away from teammate safely or any number of other tricks

rare arrow
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Four best?

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I hold for a literal second to drop a horse

lethal lagoon
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I just don't get why none of the smite spammers run flaming shriek whatthefuck_heresy

rare arrow
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So many smite psyker take spite to 100%

zinc phoenix
rare arrow
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Like if you had stopped early you could of had so much cc

zinc phoenix
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🤦‍♀️

rare arrow
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Though smites a small tool in that kit

earnest laurel
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whats a good voidstrike build

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only ones Ive seen are outdated

rare arrow
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The void strike can go with any build

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Staff is nuts

lethal lagoon
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Probably anything with true Aim and Surge blessing

harsh orchid
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Smite would be great if I could send it out in short bursts to stagger things around me so I can poke them but assail and shriek already do that better

lethal lagoon
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If you have true aim and surge blessing, everything else is just kind of extras

rare arrow
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Oh if you mean blessings then it’s warp nexus and either warp flurry or surge

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And crit perk if you are going the surge build

upper sun
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Where do i report bugs? the forum?

rare arrow
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Idk I’ve never come across one that wasn’t posted on every site I’ve ever seen

upper sun
feral verge
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skill issue

lethal lagoon
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yeah, honestly, just a plain old skill issue

upper sun
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:(((((((((((

rare arrow
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Oh that’s not a bug

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People who take a lot of wounds get 1 shot by the environment

upper sun
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i had full health

lethal lagoon
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You actually had 180/181 health 🤓

upper sun
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😭

lethal lagoon
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You playing a risky game keeping your health that low next to a med station and with a med pack

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Skill issue 100%

upper sun
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damn serves me right switching to money curios

earnest laurel
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It could have maybe have something to do with your teammate, some kind of clipping

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you were right next to him

rare arrow
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The other one is a traitor

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Also, why did you pull out assail at the beginning

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You already had a staff out that deals with those enemies

earnest laurel
upper sun
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maybe the other psyker gave me depression and i killed myself

upper sun
rare arrow
earnest laurel
lethal lagoon
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Poof, sucked away by the warp

rare arrow
upper sun
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well im glad someones laughing i had the "no one die" weekly quest 🥹

earnest laurel
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upper sun
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i dont really use reddit maybe the technical support part of the forum

earnest laurel
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Watch the series this guy makes

lethal lagoon
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Oh was that beat the buzzer attempt to get the weekly in lmao

upper sun
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devs seem to respond there

white wolf
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I personally never use trauma but

ornate hamlet
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Run and gun

rare arrow
# white wolf

So close to being so good. Better nail those last 2 rolls

white wolf
midnight jolt
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Nice, stuck on a wall, thrown here

runic python
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Oops, meant Vet channel

rare arrow
grizzled hearth
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Does soulblaze proc Thunderous on combat axes, or do you have to hit the enemy with the axe to debuff them?

ornate hamlet
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Actually, can psyker use chainaxes or just the swords?

nimble burrow
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what does melk mean by this

rose kite
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he wants to critically kiss you on the mouth

nimble burrow
lethal lagoon
long wharf
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depends if it's a critical success or a critical failure

rose kite
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depends.... do u want to kiss him back

lethal lagoon
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Well I do like melk more than hadron

long wharf
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it's only gay if you whisper sweet nothings into his ear

rose kite
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kiss him

north dock
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does penance completed upon finishing run, or anytime at the game ?

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i wanna do the For the emperor one for cosmetic

rose kite
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any time during the game

north dock
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best map to do cliffhanger ?

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push enemy off cliff

rose kite
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idk i got that one on accident lol

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there's some narrow bridges in the game...

fast frost
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Drip rate from the council of psykers please?

queen fog
rose kite
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8/10 you do be psykin

queen fog
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Hordes usually swarm down those

north dock
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vent shriek doesnt exactly push right

queen fog
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It does

north dock
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u just push with block ?

queen fog
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Do both

rose kite
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it SHOULD

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but i feel like this patch its pushback has been iffy

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on crushers and maulers during attack animations

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used to guarantee them fucking off but i've had them just ignore the stagger more than once in the last few weeks

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really annoying

north dock
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which map was it that u start at bridge

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forgot

rose kite
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i dont remember any of their names they're all insanely forgettable

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this is cleo the headboomer

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witness her

fast frost
rose kite
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my beautiful queen

fast frost
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Looks rad. Don’t think I’ve ever seen that body

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I’d like some more flowey stuff for psyker like proper robes

north dock
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how do you make the eye glow

rose kite
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it's still in the cosmetic shop i believe

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those r my outfits

rose kite
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no wait was that the orange one

north dock
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i do own it

rose kite
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fairly sure it's just an eye colour option you have then

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time to visit krall

north dock
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hmm ill check later ig

kind wing
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Doing Crit with Scrier's Gaze, do I want to replace Rampage with Shred or too good to replace?

crude cape
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does ghost on heavy laspistol let you not take dmg from a sniper shot?

rose kite
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idk what that blessing is but theres a talent that lets you do the same after a crit

queen fog
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Same reason why stuff like stripped down works

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Run past gunfire, give em the business whatthefuck_heresy

lethal lagoon
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Oh hmm, that's an mk5... uhhh, probably still the same.

kind wing
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Is there a Dueling Sword that's generally better for hordes?

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I'm more used to Mk5's gameplay Sweat

opaque tendon
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jesus what's with all these weirdos binding tag to left click

lethal lagoon
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I do have an mk4 with shred rampage that clears horde fairly well, but it's really not meant for that.

kind wing
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I see I see

spice veldt
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mk2 is technically the hordeclear one yeah because of it's 2nd heavy, but I don't know how much better it is than just lightspam

kind wing
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I'll stick to my MK5, best one I've used after some testing personally

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I really wish this weapon was available to Zealots too but I guess we're too kill-happy to have some finesse

sly comet
lethal lagoon
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What about my Clown Academia Casual Psyker whatthefuck_heresy

sly comet
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I'll throw my hat into the ring. I wanted an intimidating look that didn't rely on fancy threads. Rate my Psyker.

lethal lagoon
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(also I didn't buy the scam set, this top is super old)

kind wing
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God I wanna like Disrupt Destiny keystone but it's just so...

sly comet
kind wing
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Hm

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Maybe I'm just not noticing the differences

lethal lagoon
queen fog
lethal lagoon
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It's super fun

kind wing
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Yeah fair

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I think I just want it to have a bigger presence is all xd

lethal lagoon
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15 stacks is pretty great on gunker

kind wing
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Otherwise maybe I'm just too blind to notice that it's actually helping me do clear

lethal lagoon
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Outside of gunker... mehish

kind wing
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I'm running Cowboy setup with Scrier's Gaze and Assail

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... And also an Agri Revolver

spice veldt
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one day we will have a precision single target staff that can take advantage of DD

kind wing
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Literally just an excuse for me to not play on Zealot for once and use a Dueling Sword tbh

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GOD I'd pay such an embarrassing amount of money for Dueling Sword on Zealot

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Please Fatshark ;-;

lethal lagoon
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No KEKW_ogryn

kind wing
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I want my Saltzpyre Rapier

vocal cliff
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AGEGEGEGEGE pain

mighty olive
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love the steampunk look

lethal lagoon
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Nice set either way thumbsup_ogryn

sly comet
mighty olive
lethal lagoon
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Oh I didn't know if the collar was from the top or the helmet

sly comet
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This one I drop down to 7/10.

lethal lagoon
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Yeah, the goggles look better

mighty olive
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i think so too XD

sly comet
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Ech. 3/10

lethal lagoon
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Not even my clown aesethic can handle the cookie psyker

lethal lagoon
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Yeah, my favorite part of these two tops is they come with a collar, so it makes a lot of helmet options look better.

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I sometimes forget other sets don't have the collar on the top but the helmet

vocal cliff
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I got like

One chest piece and a hat, nothing else involving psyker grabbed my attention too much

lethal lagoon
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Did you buy that hat for 900 or 1400 whatthefuck_heresy

vocal cliff
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..1400

lethal lagoon
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KEKW_ogryn Fatshark

vocal cliff
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It was worth it

mighty olive
vocal cliff
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Only time I'll say it

lethal lagoon
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Honestly, yeah I'd have bought even if I knew fatshark was getting one on me

mighty olive
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is best hat!

lethal lagoon
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And fatshark knows it 😡

vocal cliff
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I missed it back when the Krieg psyker was around and 2 others so at least I got my chance finally

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~~think you can tell which I bought ~~

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At the time

lethal lagoon
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I worry the price for the hat without the mask is gonna be 1800 Sitgryn

vocal cliff
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I hope not

mighty olive
lethal lagoon
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We all do

mighty olive
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i'd probably never use another helmet if we get that

vocal cliff
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Welp time to try BB

lethal lagoon
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Which penance?

vocal cliff
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Not doing any penance

lethal lagoon
vocal cliff
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Just wanna give it a feel since it's the only blitz I haven't tried

lethal lagoon
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It pairs with Purg or Blaze Trauma usually.

vocal cliff
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I'll have to check if I have that

mighty olive
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i like bb with purg build

lethal lagoon
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My BB build whatthefuck_heresy

mighty olive
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i use venting shriek

lethal lagoon
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This isn't meant to be optimal, but rather a BB build

kind wing
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Venting Shriek + Brain Burst is the classic pre-patch 13 Pysker

lethal lagoon
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So double shields

kind wing
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And my favorite one at that too

lethal lagoon
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for double kinetic resonence

kind wing
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Something about it just flows so naturally

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The double shields is also a cool strat

mighty olive
kind wing
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It's even better when you get to stop Specials from fucking up your Brain Burst antics xd

lethal lagoon
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Popping a little shield in front of a shotgunner group before BBin them kinda flows just right.

kind wing
lethal lagoon
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Flaming Shriek might be my favorite psyker "magic".

vocal cliff
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Shit I forgot to check if I have a staff

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Oh well already in the mal

north dock
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purgatus dump stats is damage right ?

lethal lagoon
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The damage did get buffed... but largely it's okay for damage, warp res, and quell spd to be 60ish

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The staff isn't very taxing in terms of peril gen

urban sandal
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I like having low warp res when using something like nexus

north dock
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i think mine rn is around 48% dmg

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but everything else is 76%+

lethal lagoon
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Do you have one with higher dmg, just to compare rager kill spd or something in the pysch?

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But worse other stats

north dock
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well i can random craft one ig

lethal lagoon
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Honestly, I'm sure that staff will work just fine though

north dock
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i use warp flurry ++ nexus, so that quell speed/warp do be nice

lethal lagoon
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uhh, are you doing the thing where you stack uncanny on your melee weapon after purging crushers?

north dock
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dont think so

lethal lagoon
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I'd swap the carpace to flak then

strong gulch
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Oh blast radius. 🥲

lethal lagoon
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I'd be scared to upgrade it just because I'd probably tear up a little if it was a Hadron sweep

north dock
#

79% dmg purgatus is only 33, mine is 29

lethal lagoon
#

Would make the imperfection of blast radius feel 10x worse

lethal lagoon
#

Just change the carpace and you are gtg

strong gulch
#

I sold it. Don't worry, there way another that rolled transfer peril. So I lived the nightmare. 🥰

north dock
#

ill try flak instead of carapace

#

carapace is only crusher ?

lethal lagoon
#

Mauler helmets are too, but purg hits body.

#

So basically only crusher when it comes to purg

#

which purg does nothing

north dock
#

true

lethal lagoon
#

Ah, you know what, nvm

#

More testing, there's barely a difference

#

I guess the damage buff didn't affect the fact that the damage stat doesn't matter thumbsup_ogryn

#

So great purg staff you got there.

strange vault
#

Anywhere I can see the full list of penances required for the kinetic killer thing here? I would love to get that purple helmet

tacit stump
strange vault
#

Ty ty

tacit stump
#

i think certain mission types where not needed

strange vault
tacit stump
#

would need to see

potent echo
tacit stump
#

force swords have a similar perk

tacit stump
potent echo
#

If they made a staff blessing that quelled 25% peril per melee hit whatthefuck_heresy

lethal lagoon
#

How to increase psyker down rate by 37.4% in one patch whatthefuck_heresy

#

Not a blesing though, just a change to the staff

vocal cliff
#

Enforced blitz mal

#

Should be fun

#

Yeah BB is fun

rain minnow
#

I did finally get the weapon I wanted from Brunt, but just made this to describe my experience with Melk so far:

north dock
#

definitely bigger number on auric damnation now with flak

strong gulch
north dock
#

look at them crit tho

lethal lagoon
#

If you think those crits are impressive, look at these crits.

#

Crit master right here

#

And those weaspots thumbsup_ogryn

north dock
#

dayum

lethal lagoon
#

I think there's only one way to have this damage with 0 weakspots and 0 crits hmmgryn

#

I guess if you got super lucky with grenade drops on Ogryn Sitgryn

north dock
#

purgatus in horde is fun

#

i can spin 360 spamming right click

#

warp flurry at work

#

and blind my whole team

lethal lagoon
#

Purg and Emphatic evasion, just casually burning a horde while half the map shoots at you

urban sandal
#

it do be the best horde clearing weapon

north dock
#

purgatus in dark maps tho

#

i am the light

lethal lagoon
#

There's a mod for changing purg flames if you are on PC btw

#

I like the nurgle spit

north dock
#

nah im fine with white

#

its like holy fire

lethal lagoon
#

I wish my eyes could handle that.

#

I do like the color, it just hurts lmao

north dock
#

need them lights in the dark

#

actual gandalf

#

maybe i should get empathic evasion

#

maybe more worth than soulstealer

#

i regen so fast toughness in my bubble anyway

#

i have like 90% toughness regen in curios

lethal lagoon
#

With purg, emphatic evasion is like full uptime

#

You can also try Flaming shriek for purg, get the damage up.

#

If you put max stacks on someone, flaming shriek will break the usual cap

north dock
#

nah, im fine with my bubble, i was actually trying to play support, but smite just suckass for me

lethal lagoon
#

The board I posted earlier was smite only KEKW_ogryn

#

Smite is ass with bubble though

#

So good choice thumbsup_ogryn

north dock
#

yeah i want my bubble

lethal lagoon
#

Voidstrike is also really nice with bubble

north dock
#

i play brain rupture + bubble

#

with purgatus

#

with empowered psych

#

so i chain BR to specialist

#

i think its pretty nice

#

i can snipe shit with BR, bubble my team, and CC/dps with purgatus

lethal lagoon
#

Purg + BB is comfy thumbsup_ogryn

north dock
#

allaround

#

with how many elites/specialist in auric, the cd get reduced so much anyway

#

ah, i also added like 12% cd reduction on curios

#

so its like 30 sec cd on default rn without warp syphon

#

5 sec downtime, just 1/2 specialist kill and its up again

cosmic sigil
#

does any of you use assail with dd?

lethal lagoon
#

I have

#

The right click is nice for grabbing DDs

cosmic sigil
#

i only used it with ep and i wanted to change things

half iron
#

i see highlighted blue loser
i assail them

vocal cliff
#

That was fun

#

BB with enhanced blitz is nice

lethal lagoon
#

The french are good at removing heads 😨

vocal cliff
#

We have a knack for it

#

Can't say the same about white fire tho

lethal lagoon
#

The cape looks so much cooler on other players than on yourself is my experience 😅

vocal cliff
#

Figured

#

It looks...yeah

wide maple
#

random drop

vocal cliff
#

Pretty nice

wide maple
#

I was expecting a small coinpurse

#

but nah, all them bars are full

vocal cliff
#

Wish it were a 4 tho

#

But that's just me

wide maple
#

yeah

#

this is the 4 i've been using

vocal cliff
#

Nice

#

Idk about rampage, never tried it

wide maple
#

Its nice for spamming lights into hordes

vocal cliff
#

Ah

wide maple
#

and I have yet to get riposte

vocal cliff
#

I like to run riposte

wide maple
#

also, holy shit the 5 is so slow

vocal cliff
#

Yeahh

wide maple
#

And does less damage

vocal cliff
#

I don't like the overhead

#

It reminds me of the helbore melees

#

Pretty good but then you get the outlier

wide maple
#

and the L3

vocal cliff
#

Yeah

wide maple
#

well it is a coinpurse, then

vocal cliff
#

Yeah, I used to run precog with the mk 4 but swapped to riposte

latent hill
#

I prefer using the dueling sword for specialists and elites

vocal cliff
#

Sidenote

ornate hamlet
#

Has anyone done the twins on hard as a Psyker?

vocal cliff
#

The illsi is weird

#

I like the deflector blessing

vocal cliff
#

But other than that it just feels basic

wide maple
ornate hamlet
ornate hamlet
wide maple
#

Crit evis

#

with some survival skill swaps

latent hill
#

Would the trauma staff work on the twins to stagger?

analog agate
analog agate
latent hill
ornate hamlet
wide maple
analog agate
wide maple
#

Just focus on keeping all the specials and hordes off your boss beaters

latent hill
#

Hmm…

#

Hhh, it’ll be hard to do for sure

analog agate
#

And boy will you have a lot of ragers/crushers/etc

wide maple
#

MAULER!

analog agate
#

Soooo many

wide maple
#

MAULER!

#

MAULER!

latent hill
#

Least I can three hit them to an extent…

#

Btw does the penance not trigger if you use the bells?

#

At spawn that is

wide maple
#

did you unlock the bells?

analog agate
#

It does. You don’t even have to unlock the bells. As long as someone in your party has them

latent hill
#

I’m just asking if it does or does not

analog agate
#

And then you will too

latent hill
#

If using the spawn bells would still allow me to complete the penances associated with that

analog agate
#

It does

latent hill
#

Can’t help but be sure

wide maple
#

the penances are just for beating the twins

#

you don't have to do the whole mission unless you want the resources, and you cant even do that with hardmode

latent hill
#

Well… I’ll maybe hit you two up

#

If you’re alright with us doing that

analog agate
#

Apparently you don’t even have to beat them on damn hard mode? As long as you attempted it on damn hard mode and then can beat them on a lower difficulty? I can’t confirm that works though

wide maple
#

Nope. Not doing that hell again.

latent hill
#

But I’ll be the only psyker in the group

#

Fair enough

rose kite
#

i wouldnt recommend psyker for hard mode twins sadly

#

doable most likely but vet/ogryn would be much easier

wide maple
#

My victory was by the sole survivor getting one last hit in

latent hill
#

My vet only has the agrippa

analog agate
#

We rolled them. One ogryn, 2 vets, and me as blaze trauma

latent hill
#

No good melees

rose kite
#

vet has good melees wat

latent hill
latent hill
rose kite
#

trauma staff and soulfire talents?

analog agate
latent hill
#

Just a thought.

tame venture
#

isn't this a pretty decent roll? if nothing else isn't hand cannon 4 important?

rose kite
#

u can definitely wait for higher stats than 355

#

and u want hand cannon + surgical

tame venture
#

i don't have any revolvers on psyker

#

and the only low stat is mobility, others are near max

latent hill
rose kite
#

if u got melkbucks to spare I'd get it to earn the hand cannon blessing

#

ya

tame venture
#

buying it then

#

i can switch out stamina and sussy fire for better things, then grind it if i hate it

latent hill
#

Yeah I guess that works

rose kite
#

it'll definitely be servicable till you get a better one

latent hill
rose kite
#

replace 1.5 stam with unyielding or flak or something

tame venture
#

mobility being the only thing below par is fine i think

latent hill
#

Given that you’re likely to be doing a lot of close range Combat with it…

#

Well, that’s up to you

strong gulch
cosmic sigil
strong gulch
#

yeah crucian is also good

cosmic sigil
#

or go sustained + hc if you can get crits easily

tame venture
#

well i stuck surgical 3 on it

cosmic sigil
#

surgical will only apply to the first shot

harsh orchid
#

it works on the other shots you just have to stop shooting

strong gulch
#

The two revolvers play rather differently.

Also, 1st AIMED shot.

cosmic sigil
#

i am a stan for speedloader + sustained fire tho it's so fun

cosmic sigil
tame venture
#

well i can stick something else besides surgical if i get a better blessing

cosmic sigil
#

if you don't use it, better use a zarona

harsh orchid
#

atp if you're going to put surgical on an agri just run a zarona

final bison
#

Holy shot

#

I saw some dude Lindberg videos on meta payker tree analysis

#

Holy

#

Dude roasted asianrobot

#

And opened a whole new world

#

I mean i disnt test anything yet i gotta work

#

But woah

#

Made quite the case for gunker with scryer and destiny

quaint drum
#

Does anyone know if warp nexus blessing goes on Surge staff?

runic hornet
#

gunker is actually good yes

#

gets more stable gun damage bonuses than veteran, ironically

#

use a weapon that doesn't have ammo economy problems like infantry lasgun and you're off to the races

final bison
#

The way he explained it

strong gulch
#

You can offset ammo economy issues with assail. Gunker is psyker's biggest boss damage.

final bison
#

Its like its broken

#

Like op broken

#

Why the fuck did i waste all my resources

#

Oof

strong gulch
final bison
#

I was like yeah let me use rylen and asianrobot builds

And this dude is like they’re all trash and he is showing the numbers

strong gulch
#

You can do gunker quite well without SG too.

final bison
#

Woah

quaint drum
runic hornet
#

every staff is its own blessing category is why

final bison
#

You redeemed on other staff

runic hornet
#

so unless you've gotten SPECIFICALLY a surge staff with nexus 4

strong gulch
#

Keep in mind though, that it's also how you play.

But generally, Asian Robot isn't great for accurate info.

quaint drum
#

wait what

#

do i have to redeem it on a surge staff to put it on another surge

runic hornet
#

everyone else is blowing smoke for content

strong gulch
quaint drum
runic hornet
#

HHs and helbore1 suck

strong gulch
#

Ryken is pretty good too. 👍

runic hornet
#

actual clown tier content creators

strong gulch
#

upvote on telopots

harsh orchid
#

headhunter is ass because I suck at managing recoil on anything other than a revolver

quaint drum
#

Ah well rip my plasteel, time to grind again

lethal lagoon
runic hornet
#

I remember another big CCer who was insisting that plasma was s-tier before it got its cleave and damage buff

#

yes, the plasma gun that stopped on one(1) trash arm, so you would shoot a rifleman and he wouldn't die because his arm took the hit

ornate hamlet
plucky flax
lethal lagoon
#

Jokes aside, lemme go find the full set

ornate hamlet
#

Ty Ty

strong gulch
lethal lagoon
#

Maybe it's time for a refresh 🤷‍♂️

strong gulch
ornate hamlet
lethal lagoon
#

They also look really good on female psyker thumbsup_ogryn

plucky flax
lethal lagoon
#

(I think he's just played enough and is good enough that literally anything works)

#

I never really thought about how melee racks up true aim

#

I guess if you swap enough it could be huge

plucky flax
#

Yeah but I'd rather just spam staff.

runic hornet
#

true aim on trauma is actually cracked

strong gulch
runic hornet
#

5 melee headshots->fully charge trauma->big crit

lethal lagoon
#

Yeah but then I'd have to stop using trauma to melee whatthefuck_heresy

runic hornet
#

very relevant when you often mop up a bunch of trash (fully charge true aim)->get to the next big wave->start by hitting all the elites with a fully charged crit trauma

#

blaze trauma is funny but you have to give up brittleness since blaze trauma needs both blessings

#

and brittleness is huge for killing elite pulls

plucky flax
runic hornet
#

unless you're talking about just using soulfire shriek with a trauma stafff which has nothing to do with the trauma staff itself

strong gulch
#

If you feel like it, blazing spirit + rending shockwave and crits from true aim is a thing. More quick swap and melee focused tho.

lethal lagoon
plucky flax
#

Yeah it's not part of the build at all.

#

Creeping flames not allowed. nooooo

lethal lagoon
#

Honestly doesn't fit well but when I saw those pants, I grabbed it

runic hornet
#

yeah blazing spirit with true aim crits is fucking hilarious

strong gulch
lethal lagoon
#

I might not have even bought the head

#

It's slightly cheaper to skip the head

strong gulch
lethal lagoon
plucky flax
#

Confirmed OP

lethal lagoon
#

That's actually not true about the toilet bowls. Invest in a good one to avoid poseidon's kiss whatthefuck_heresy

hot zephyr
#

So Melk blessed me today with this:
Which has left me wondering. What talent build and melee weapon goes well with a Trauma staff? Technically the atheneum only shows blaze trauma and while it says you should choose a melee weapon with good mutant and monstrosity damage, it doesn't list any particular recommendations.

So, any shockwave trauma users here willing to share their build or melee weapon choice and why?

potent echo
#

I run duelling sword because speed

lethal lagoon
#

Blaze trauma means I am basically not using anything other than blaze trauma. So I like dagger for zoomies.

#

Or dueling sword yeah

#

The mutant problem is always present if your team is lagging

potent echo
#

You basically want a melee to kill mutants

#

And maybe some stray elites or small pockets of horde etc

hot zephyr
#

I'm looking to build shockwave trauma out of this one, but yeah I considered DS4, I just don't have a good one yet

potent echo
#

Chainsword works too KEKW_ogryn

#

Rev it up baby

strong gulch
#

Trauma has CC and aoe. So something single target focused is going to round it out. DS4 is going to be the top rec.

lethal lagoon
#

I have a meta perfect shockwave the Emperor gave me. I was shocked.

#

Then I used it and understood.

hot zephyr
#

My changes will likely be
Crit -> Flak
Nexus -> Rending Shockwave

lethal lagoon
#

The emperor did not bless me

strong gulch
#

But there are various melee options that work well. DS4 is kinda the all arounder option.

hot zephyr
#

Yeah, like I said I don't have a DS4 yet, haven't been blessed. I could brunt roll a bunch but I'm not a plasteel farmer so I gotta be thrifty with my purchases

#

I do have a really nice Mark 13 Chainsword that's pretty nice tho

#

It one shots mutants with a heavy special, and functions great as a mobility stick with rev it up

strong gulch
#

Knife isn't bad boss damage, but is higher effort for other things.

Deimos is slower move speed, more utility, and can be finiky to use.

No experience on devil's claw or chainswords, but I hear good things.

lethal lagoon
#

Chainswords on mutants have that "Omae wa mou shindeiru" vibe KEKW_ogryn

#

I fucking love it lmao

hot zephyr
#

Yeah, I love my mark 6 knife, it's great, but I'd ideally like something else just to give some variety

#

So I guess I'll keep an eye out for a DS4 as I have been for a while, just no luck

#

I do have this okish Illisi, but it's kinda not what trauma wants. I think this is going to end up paired in a pistol build.

#

What about Talents, what do you guys run with trauma?

queen fog
#

Rending shockwave and warp flurry thumbsup_ogryn

#

It good for armor and lotta enemies

#

Oh crap u said talents not blessing my fault

hot zephyr
#

Yeah, I was thinking at first maybe this is the build where you don't really need talents for trauma to work, and I could do a BREP build like this

#

crack some skulls, cause some earthquakes

tidal scaffold
#

what build/weapon combos do yall reccomend to make good use of Smite

queen fog
queen fog
covert umbra
#

Quesation as a new player, is Psyker supposed to move around randomly / not accept inputs?

Got my Zealot to level 30, no issues with inputs no random movement, all 4 games on my Psyker have them moving around randomly or not takking button inputs

queen fog
#

Either by wifi being fucky or the servers not enjoying modded broskis u can sometimes not be synced to the servers fully

lethal lagoon
queen fog
#

Leading to enemies running through walls, other players moon walking midair, among other things like no reg shots

#

Which always sucks

tidal scaffold
#

I made my pskyer smol, and you can REALLY see it next to an ogryn

#

guess which one is me

lethal lagoon
#

If you want kinetic deflection on that build, remove mettle and one 15 toughness.

#

Can also grab wildfire instead of mettle, which is what I normally run nowadays

#

If you ever want to notice wildfire damage, turn on all healthbars, and flame shriek + smite the balcony on Magi assasin, the next wave of poxwalkers will sometimes have wildfire spread to them, and you can see the actual effect of wildfire.

covert umbra
queen fog
#

Yea i usually play on a desktop but recently I’ve had to play on my laptop instead

#

So I have a problem running 4s and 5s without lag issues

#

Like for 4s is ok, a few spikes here and there

#

But for 5 I might as well be in the rescuable state with how useless I’ll be role wise KEKW_ogryn

spice veldt
#

no choice of ethernet even for your lappy?

stone canyon
#

Good enough to try out Trauma?

spice veldt
#

i've got my laptop hooked up to a dock with an ethernet port and boy do I not miss wifi

lethal lagoon
#

I'd fully upgrade that no matter the next rolls

stone canyon
#

Yeah 1/4 slots already filled in was what picked my attention besides all 70+

strong gulch
#

Since Atlas showed off the candy cane pants, I went and put mine on because lemming gonna lemming. I even got a complement on my outfit during a match.

lethal lagoon
#

Honestly those pants are peak psyker fit and no one can tell me otherwise

#

That and thunder hammer surge staff

strong gulch
#

They go with nothing and everything.

#

Candy cane is like leopard print.

lethal lagoon
#

A shame weapon custom mod makes the surge animation super weird

strong gulch
#

Yee.

lethal lagoon
#

I need to buy me a pair of gym pants that look like that

#

I had a stripped pair back in college, they are as flattering as they are silly.

stone canyon
lethal lagoon
#

It's time to 420 blaze up

stone canyon
#

2/4

lethal lagoon
#

A shame you can't grab that transfer peril for LMB staff builds whatthefuck_heresy

stone canyon
#

So Blazing Spirit and +5% for it?

lethal lagoon
#

Yeppers

stone canyon
#

Appears i dont have Blazing Spirit, well, someday ill finish it

lethal lagoon
#

Oof

#

Melk 🙏 we need you

#

Blazing spirit is pretty easy to roll thankfully

#

Or unthankfully(?), after all, it's easy to roll cause there's no tier 4

strong gulch
#

I have multiple good trauma staves, but none of them are prefect. One day I will get one. Until that day, I will be broke.

brisk grove
#

wow i just rolled this on my second try, trying to decide if it's any better than my current one though

exotic mauve
#

what perks / blessings are preferred for the trauma staff?

strong gulch
#

There are a couple other non-meta options.

exotic mauve
#

is this salvageable?

strong gulch
#

For fire trauma you want flak + crit rate perks and blazing spirit + nexus blessings.

On the other one you want flak + maniac / carapace perks and flurry + rending shockwave blessings.

strong gulch
exotic mauve
#

ok thanks

brisk grove
#

is there any benefit to going "+10% ranged damage vs groaners/poxwalkers" over "+25% damage vs unarmored"?

strong gulch
# exotic mauve ok thanks

Play at higher peril to proc crits. Quell canceling will let you cast faster, but as a downside you can accidentally interrupt the cast and not doing anything.

strong gulch
brisk grove
#

but aren't horde enemies unarmored in general

lethal lagoon
#

unarmored and infested.

strong gulch
#

Which SB melts. There are the bruisers too with flak center mass.

brisk grove
#

i already have flak dmg on it

strong gulch
#

But that's where purg hits.

lethal lagoon
#

Perfect setup thumbsup_ogryn

strong gulch
#

Purg wants flak and crit chance yee

strong gulch
exotic mauve
#

ok 😦

lethal lagoon
#

You can do it, I believe in YOU

strong gulch
#

I am sureg you can still blast some foots with it anyways.

lethal lagoon
#

Or you can use Trauma but only left click whatthefuck_heresy

strong gulch
#

Don't need perfect weapons to play this game, but dang I want them.

#

LMB mains

jade elbow
#

Does anyone know a good build for doing the warp battery penance

lethal lagoon
lethal lagoon
strong gulch
lethal lagoon
#

That said, revolver is great for getting those warp charges

#

Void and Surge work too if your aim is more wonky

#

Purg with 10% soulblaze warp charge is also an option

#

Also keep in mind you don't need the warp battery(6 stacks) talent.

#

Also keep in mind all psyker penances are easier to do as an experienced level 30.

#

Auric t4/t5s are better for warp battery for example

quartz barn
#

Dont know if it still works this way, but cant you just walk through a lvl and only use brainburst

jade elbow
#

Oh okay what about maps because I go on one I feel like I barely see anything

quartz barn
#

Thats how i got it before the class tree changes

lethal lagoon
jade elbow
#

I am already level 30

strong gulch
quartz barn
#

Sadge

lethal lagoon
quartz barn
#

Oh well i feel like you can just get that penance passively if you run higher end content without using your ability

#

So you dont consume stacks

jade elbow
#

I thought you had to use your abilities to build it up

lethal lagoon
#

Using "F" depletes your warp stacks KEKW_ogryn

jade elbow
#

I play on Xbox

lethal lagoon
#

Using the Yell, Bubble or Scrier's Gaze depletes your warp stacks

quartz barn
#

Consumes them to lower the cd of the next cast

jade elbow
#

I did not know that

lethal lagoon
#

Gotta read the tooltips haha

quartz barn
#

Thats the tradeoff

#

Either keep them up for extra dmg or consume them for ability cd

#

Tldr run void to kill stuff before anyone else can and dont use abil for free penance thumbsup_ogryn

jade elbow
#

What does tldr mean

spice veldt
#

too long, didn't read

#

usually used to indicate a summary

jade elbow
#

Oh

#

What blitz is most efficient for it

sullen bobcat
#

For voidstrike?

#

Anything. You end up literally using nothing but void strike

#

I only have smite equipped to just get to the nodes I want

quartz barn
#

I have bb just for the passive use on melee, works for me because i barely melee as is so its more consistent

#

Pretty much guaranteed on the enemy id want to use it on since i just use void vs hordes, even in melee range

jade elbow
#

What a bb

sullen bobcat
#

Brain burst

#

Or whatever the new name is

jade elbow
#

Oh

sullen bobcat
#

Everyone still calls it bb

queen fog
#

I think new name is Brain rupture

brisk grove
#

i think i've hit a new record with purgatus staff: 929 ranged kills and 4 melee kills

static needle
#

Can running a chainsword be a good choice for psyker?

#

Or like, any weapon besides duelling sword?

#

or force sword?

brisk grove
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i've always run catachan mk1 with psyker, the heavy attacks are good for sweeping hordes and bonking elites

static needle
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ive heard the mk 4 is best tho

brisk grove
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i think it does more damage but i don't like the attack pattern

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mk1 has served me well many times

vestal fulcrum
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But it’s quite awkward

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Otherwise, Bloodletter alongside Rev can also be used to just quickly apply high bleed to something

static needle
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yeah but like... is there anything comparatively good to use than a force sword or DS?

vestal fulcrum
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No dogkek

static needle
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yikes

vestal fulcrum
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Not really

static needle
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like.... why would you use a catachan mk I when you can always have an illisi

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lol

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literally does the same thing and more, and better

vestal fulcrum
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Unless you want to horde clear on the Chsword, which is a bad idea, considering that there is a better weapon for the role

static needle
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hmmm i mean

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is illisi better for single target or new chainsword?

vestal fulcrum
vestal fulcrum
static needle
vestal fulcrum
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Chsword locks you into place when performing the Rev, which can be dangerous, and Illisi allows you to dodge at will

brisk grove
exotic mauve
vestal fulcrum
lethal lagoon
brisk grove
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i thought "revving" implied the charging animation not the attack animation

lethal lagoon
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I'm glad you could make it work thumbsup_ogryn

outer vessel
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but for the most point, using melee is a last ditch effort to get something off of you, and its typically your melee range option to execute an armored enemy or certain specials that are asking to get head-sniped

ornate hamlet
exotic mauve
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at first I blew up 5 times before I got the hang of it

ornate hamlet
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Bonus points if the ragdoll does a funny

outer vessel
ornate hamlet
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Like when you slap a mutant with a thunder hammer and it does a backflip

brisk grove
outer vessel
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the best ones are on mutants that are mid charge, or a dog that is mid sprint/pounce

ornate hamlet
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Or the infinitely coveted

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The rocket dog

lethal lagoon
brisk grove
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one time i did that with a hound and it left this plane of reality

ornate hamlet
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Where you dodge right and slam a sweep on the dog's ass

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And combine the momentum of the blow with that of the pounce

outer vessel
lethal lagoon
ornate hamlet
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Poxhound? How about poxhouston

dapper shadow
outer vessel
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SPeaking of staff lmb, they could def use some alternatives

static needle
ornate hamlet
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Dog ragdolls are probably the best tbh

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They're randomly so exaggerated

lethal lagoon
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Stacks*

static needle
dapper shadow
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is the build in the psyker thread?

ornate hamlet
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You'll do something completely ordinary and the dog will ricochet off a crate and fly into the ozone layer

outer vessel
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I've been really wondering how much more effective brittleness would be on trauma...I have t4 for it

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but I really can't say it's better than flurry

brisk grove
static needle
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If I were to buy this, what do i change on it?

ornate hamlet
dapper shadow
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do staff lmb do different damage numbers

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or are they all the same

outer vessel
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lol

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Only thing I don't like about dogs is stagger inconsistency

lethal lagoon
static needle
lethal lagoon
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But Void and Trauma have Surge blesing

dapper shadow
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hrm

lethal lagoon
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and transfer peril