psyker-class

[ionic sorrel]

Bummer but also nice

[tulip kettle]

i got a "rebreather" premium cosmetic today

thinking it would change my voice

it doesnt. Is there any way i can see which ones do?

[vocal cliff]

You mean in terms of a more robotic voice?

[mighty olive]

i likes this look XD

[tulip kettle]

yes

[vocal cliff]

What does the helm look like? I forget it's name

[shy willow]

helly psykers, I'm leveling one. Melk's selling a force staff with the surge blessing today. Worth anything?

[fair spruce]

depends on which staff he's selling it on

[fair spruce]

as they're not shared between variants

[lethal lagoon]

Meh, grab it anyways.

Maybe they'll fix trauma one day

If it's one void, then nice luck

[lethal lagoon]

That mod still memory leaking?

Also 0/10, shovel too small

[shy willow]

ah

its trauma staff

rip then

[lethal lagoon]

This LMB trauma is currently meta

Believe me

[shy willow]

haven't played with the trauma staff yet

[lethal lagoon]

Memes aside, I'd buy it anyways, I'm sure they'll do something with Surge on Trauma eventually.

[shy willow]

looks it up

[lethal lagoon]

😅

[shy willow]

oh, its the... its the whatchama call it staff from vermintide

fuck I forget the name, I always used it on battle wizard Sienna though

the conflag staff

[ornate hamlet]

Aye

Voidstrike is fireball's cousin

Aey

[midnight jolt]

Change caparace by flak right?

[lethal lagoon]

Uhhh, are you ever gonna really use it on flak?

I like 5% crit, cause it helps with mutant killing

[midnight jolt]

5% only?

[lethal lagoon]

5% crit chance sorry

Crit damage perks are useless at any %

[midnight jolt]

yeah, chance

[lethal lagoon]

Uhh, I mean it's better than the alternatives 🤷‍♂️

Illy for me is hordes, ragers, and mutants.

Sometimes I wip it out for close range specials

Of course, it depends on how you use yours

I wouldn't call 5% crit the defacto choice or anything like that

Flak might be better if you are meleeing em enough

[midnight jolt]

10% dmg to elite?

[lethal lagoon]

If you are using it on elites 😅

[midnight jolt]

stop using logic, it hurts 😂

I must be careful with it, I tend to stun the crushers and dangerous enemies with the DS4, I have to change my ways with this one

[lethal lagoon]

Illy pairs well with the Surgey

And Revolver too

[ornate hamlet]

I would keep it as is and replace unstable with shred

But that's because I hit carapace with it and use crit stuff

[midnight jolt]

I was thinking something like that but then checked the atheneum:

could try shred for now

[lethal lagoon]

Keep in mind the fire sword is a meme

I don't know why it's listed in the atheneum honestly

Maybe there's some super secret tech I'm missing.

I just can't imagine a scenario where blazing spirit is comparable to slaughter or uncanny

[long wharf]

it isn't

it's for funsies only

[echo frigate]

BS Shred on FS does wild dps

[lethal lagoon]

I feel like that's almost entirely from shred though.

[ornate hamlet]

Yep

[tulip kettle]

yes change carapce for flak on illisi

blazing spirit is a meme right?

if you hit a crit its probably gonna die

and if it doesnt you probably shouldnt be trying to apply flame stacks with your sword on it

but thats just my take

same thinking on why flak is important on illisi and carapace isnt

[dawn spoke]

I think it's probably just there so that people who are going to do it anyway can at least do it well

[tulip kettle]

if its got carapace you probably shouldnt be hitting it with an illisi

and if it does you have uncanny anyway

[trim folio]

What perk should I change Elite damage from?

[rare arrow]

carapace is my go to, though id reroll transfer peril

you could also go crit chance

[lethal lagoon]

I personally would swap the blessing to nexus or surge

Unless you purposefully want a flurry transfer staff

Then probably flak.

[trim folio]

Not lucky enough to get nexus or surge yet

Thanks

[harsh urchin]

Prob keep elites and use flak

Instead of unyielding

Since this is a transfer flurry staff rather than a surge nexus

[tulip kettle]

fluirry transfer is great

[harsh urchin]

I would only build to kill fatter enemies with a crit surge vs

If its a general use id build it flak/maniac/elite instead

[tulip kettle]

i have a surge nexus void for 1 shotting crushers

but overall DPS is much lower

[long wharf]

welp, that's enough PUG damnation for one night

three runs in a row with absolute donuts for teammates

[tulip kettle]

flurry transfer is just too good not to take honestly

shoot a bowling ball at head height, quell 30 peril

repeat infinitely

delete everything

[long wharf]

last one had an xbox veteran using his helbore to shoot the horde in his face

I couldn't save them all, and then I couldn't save myself

[tulip kettle]

i played my first 2 games of plasma shout powersowrd veteran this eve

[long wharf]

I still don't care for the power sword

[tulip kettle]

turns game into braindead mode

[long wharf]

but I do enjoy me some plasma

[tulip kettle]

with power cycler its just too good, illisi on crack

[long wharf]

I dislike have to re-engage it every three swings

[tulip kettle]

its like playing void illisi psyker on steroids

[night hound]

What's the differnce between left click and right click on smite

[tulip kettle]

yeah but for those swings it deletes 40 pox lol

[hushed egret]

right click deals more damage, spreads faster, and has theoretically infinite initial targets on cast in its cone

left click is just like, a quarter of a second faster

left click is only good for interupting that one fucker before you immediately let it go and do something else

[lethal lagoon]

Left click is there because they didn't want to have nothing there.

[hushed egret]

oh I did. right trigger is left click on controller

I'll edit it

[lethal lagoon]

#psyker-class message
Run Surge Smite and Embrace the darkside.

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

(Also be careful, you will literally become worse at the game the longer you use smite. Braincells will die 🙂 )

[hushed egret]

why does that message say to release smite just before 100%?

[lethal lagoon]

Cause it does a lil push

But if you hit 100% no push

[hushed egret]

you sure?

[lethal lagoon]

Fairly certain

You quell yourself instead of pushing at 100% I think

[hushed egret]

hm I remember it pushing but eh

it does quell you

[lethal lagoon]

Maybe it's a controller feature 🙂

(That would actually be funny though)

[flint plover]

laspistol II/X or columnus V for a scrier build?

[hushed egret]

I'll test it again

[lethal lagoon]

Columbus V gunker probably the highest DPS build in the game

[hushed egret]

whatever fills your cup

[lethal lagoon]

Laspistol 2 is more comfy though

Laspistol 10 is a 10/100

[hushed egret]

might be less dps but laspistol X is more ammo efficient no?

[lethal lagoon]

🤷‍♂️ I have no idea. I didn't like it and from what I understood most people don't either.

[hushed egret]

I enjoyed it on Vet but I havent really tried using 2 instead

they have the same ammo cap though

[lethal lagoon]

You know, depending on playstyle, 10 might be better on controller... hmm.

[flint plover]

Yeah, I enjoy II way more on my zealot

[lethal lagoon]

Stronger and slower lasers use more ammo per shot

Is my understanding

It might be overall more efficient though

[hushed egret]

also yeah, I like slower steady fire rates or full auto. in betweens can be less comfy, partly cause of controller aiming tbh

[lethal lagoon]

Also I recommend grond's build for gunker #1158835513789272126 message

You can change it for personal preference, but it's a good starting point.

[flint plover]

thank you!

[tight fable]

Does terrifying barrage do anything for the purgatus staff?

[hushed egret]

ye

kinda

you already suppress but it gives you more

namely for anything you arent actively hitting

idk if the extra is particularly worth though. might proc off burn kills after you swap weapons?

[spice veldt]

and practically all melee enemies can't be suppressed

so the things that are close to you, since TB is centered in an area around you, won't be affected by the suppression that it gives

[hushed egret]

Zealot's crucifix is suppression and it holws down everything melee included

now granted it probably has unique mechanics they dont tell you about cause fuck you

[long wharf]

are you sure that counts as suppression?

[spice veldt]

yeah since it also staggers them

[hushed egret]

description says suppression

only

no "stagger"

[long wharf]

hmm okay

[hushed egret]

oh I forgor then

[long wharf]

well there you go

[hushed egret]

[long wharf]

it's staggering

[ornate hamlet]

Methinks that the stagger is close range and switches to suppression in the outer radius

[naive frigate]

What is a god roll Columnus look like?

[lethal lagoon]

80/80/80/80 60 mobility.

[wide maple]

is this worth rolling on to have a purgatus?

[lethal lagoon]

76 Burn is the cutoff for purg pretty much.

It's not THAT big of a deal, all things considered, but it's kind of a waste of plasteel.

[wide maple]

ok, cool

it just dropped and i was just curious

[urban sandal]

if burn and damage were swapped it would be great

[lethal lagoon]

Damage got buffed it's not that bad anymore

Probably want to dump warp and quell.

Just not too low

[tribal girder]

Aside from longer dodge, what other properties does the mk5 dueling sword have?

[lethal lagoon]

mk4*, uh it can 3 shot crushers.
can 1-2 shot mutants.

Pokey poke is nice

One of the last weapons with move tech still

mk5 and mk2 are like 40% weaker for literally no reason 🤷‍♂️ so mk4 is the default choice.

[hushed egret]

mk2/5 have better crowd clear and still solid single target if you want a rapier but dont need more single target

[lethal lagoon]

Meh, at that point go illy.

[hushed egret]

rapiers have nice speed though

[lethal lagoon]

Or dagger

[hushed egret]

dagger for crowd clear? lol

[tribal girder]

Ibam pretty sure mk5 has way better mobility

[lethal lagoon]

I meant if you aren't going mk4.

[tribal girder]

in fact, most dodge distance plus modifier

i seen people swing it while moving around but i couldn't figure out why

[lethal lagoon]

that works for mk4 though?

[tribal girder]

Mk4 is plus 8percent

[ornate hamlet]

Oh my God, it's worse than I thought it'd be

[tribal girder]

Mk5 is plus 15

[ornate hamlet]

They're legitimately reselling an old cosmetic

A single old cosmetic

For the price of the bundle it was on before

[tribal girder]

I used to only use mk 4 but now.i use mk5 on void cuz i don't need to melee

[lethal lagoon]

Oh wow I never noticed the dodge distance difference, is the tooltip correct?

[ornate hamlet]

Also didn't the bionic eye use to cost 300 aquilas or am I gaslighting myself?

[lethal lagoon]

I dunno, I think bionic eye was pricer cause it was 3 classes.

[spice veldt]

i assume it's some default value shenanigans because of mobility and defense both affecting dodge distance

[ornate hamlet]

Yeah, weapons with defense and mobility get wonky dodge and distance and other values

I couldn't find a pattern for them

I intially thought it was the sum of the dodges from both

[tribal girder]

I noticed a huge difference whem playing, with mk5 slide dodgoe away from enemies is wayyy easier

[ornate hamlet]

Or the highest value

[potent zenith]

this worth getting from melk?

[tribal girder]

Some people already have videos on YouTube showcasing using mk5 to slide around and kite a daemonhost

[tribal girder]

Finess is bad but workable, if you like reflector

[ornate hamlet]

Back when the force swords used to have infinite dodges you could kite a daemonhost without taking damage

[potent zenith]

worst case i can just grab it for deflector 4

[ornate hamlet]

I know because I did it for like 3/4 of its health

[tribal girder]

Yeah reflector4 is op

[ornate hamlet]

Wackytide

[spice veldt]

my 63% mobility DS4 has a dodge distance of ~3 meters

and my DS5 has a dodge distance of ~3.2 meters

just using the movement analyzer mod

[tribal girder]

What about slide

[lunar hollow]

analyze deez

[spice veldt]

be quiet knife loner stealth zealot

[lethal lagoon]

What's that mod called? Is it on nexus?

[spice veldt]

it kind of varies, but the ds4 seems to go to ~3.1 meters and the ds5 ~3.5 meters

[lunar hollow]

i would never

[spice veldt]

i think the modmaker took it down for now
it used to be on their github but not anymore

[tribal girder]

They all have the same mobility modifier?

[spice veldt]

i'm testing with the same 63% mobility duelling sword

and i assume that all the ds5 will have the same dodge stats

but i'll check if that's true

probably true
i deleted all my low stat weapons so i can't check and i don't want to waste my dockets

[tribal girder]

Well i don't have that mod but my ds4 has 80 mobility and ds5 has 73

[spice veldt]

i'm using a 60% mob one since that's the practical stat roll that most people will go for

[tribal girder]

And ds4 gives plus 8 percent while ds5 givs plus 15

And its very noticeable in game

[spice veldt]

yeah it's noticeable though it's pretty whatever

the other main difference is that ds5 dodges occur over a shorter time

0,35 seconds compared to the ds4's 0.4 seconds

[lethal lagoon]

@tribal girder Hmm, thanks for the info, time to run some games with ds5

[tribal girder]

That explains why it feels better to spam

[lethal lagoon]

How do I fix this guy?

I was literally just thinking of grabbing the uncanny off em too haha

[sacred crane]

for the power up penace do i have to use warp syphon with bb?

[lethal lagoon]

Yes

[tribal girder]

Its not bad

[lethal lagoon]

I just can't decide between keeping stamina or sprint

[sacred crane]

there goes my sweet empowered bb

[lethal lagoon]

Since it's a movement thingy, it's actually decent perks

[sacred crane]

[tribal girder]

Stamina is better

cuz push

[lethal lagoon]

Psyker kinda got the infinite pushes though

[tribal girder]

Sprint is only sprint

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah, but the ego trip of beating everyone in the beggining of the mission

[tribal girder]

Lol

[lethal lagoon]

Everyone knows the first person is the coolest

Or a loner zealot
So opposite of cool

[hushed egret]

I take +2 stamina on my rapiers

[tribal girder]

Yes stealth zealots are the coolest

[hushed egret]

feels so much better than the base 2

[urban sandal]

you can get +3 stamina

[hushed egret]

on perks?

[urban sandal]

oh right mb

[tribal girder]

Or u can get one that says plus 3 stamina but actually gives you plus 2 stamina

like me

[hushed egret]

4 is plenty for me regardless

[lethal lagoon]

75 Curio gang line up

[sacred crane]

that just reminded me of this

[tulip kettle]

cheers technomama

[ionic sorrel]

Got to the last part of the stage, tossed down a medpack for a meeting point. Vet with a grim has the perk that heals corruption. Uses the entire med pack before the first wave, 🙃 At one point everyone else died and I had to clutch, but we made it!

[ornate hamlet]

It makes me curious if healing corruption consumes the medpack

Because technically it'd be consuming healing for not actually healing the player if it does

[strange vault]

Does Kinetic flayer's chance to brain rupture any damaged target generate peril?

[urban sandal]

no

[strange vault]

Sweet

[ionic sorrel]

It does. I found out the hard way.

It just kept healing the corruption and adding more from the grim, the med pack was gone before the first wave lol

[urban sandal]

another reason why grims suck in their current state

[ionic sorrel]

Yup

[ornate hamlet]

Stellar game design

[ionic sorrel]

Luckily we lost the grim when everyone else died, but that was our only medpack.

[ornate hamlet]

I'd imagine it'd be a no-brainer to make the corruption not drain from the medpack

[urban sandal]

should have asked him to pass it to you and then destroy it

[ornate hamlet]

Actually, since it heals corruption it opens more health to be healed

[ionic sorrel]

Well I had no idea he had that perk

yeah, it healed the corruption and start to heal the health in a quick cycle till it was gone

Needless to say, if you are a vet and grab a grim with that perk, you are a monster.

[cobalt atlas]

Left or Right

[lethal lagoon]

I would use right, though I'm not personally sure if 72% affects any breakpoints.

It shouldn't.

[rain minnow]

New-ish player, recently hit 30, collecting gear, played a lot of vermintide, looking for tips on how to perform better on Psyker. I'm completing L4 missions with modifiers relatively smoothly, but looking at scoreboard (modded) I'm consistently the bottom of my squad in basically every stat. 😦

I've been running Voidstaff & Smite and tried a few different talent builds

[lethal lagoon]

Easier to just post your set up, you can use https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor for the skill tree and take screenshots of your weapons

[lethal lagoon]

Guide is also solid https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959

[rain minnow]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9b149e5b-8f6b-4b4f-8495-a2eb0373b927/temp-newb-build?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[lethal lagoon]

Ob force sword is pretty bad, it was left behind by the times.

Try Illy force sword, Deimos, or mk4 dueling sword.

[rain minnow]

Yeah, still farming gear.

My personal armoury is pretty empty

Just using that atm because it dropped with better stats than the deimos I was using

[lethal lagoon]

Also EP smite is fairly mid without creeping flames(venting shriek)

[rain minnow]

My understanding is that the gap between top & bottom tier gear in this game, though, is pretty small relatively-speaking. I'm assuming most of my problems are probably down to playstyle or mechanics issues?

[lethal lagoon]

Without changing your build too much, you can try something like this:

With Voidstrike you wanna be spending most of your time voidstriking.

There's often little reason to swap weapons unless you are dealing with a mutant or something.

True Aim is great on voidstrike, but that's largely with the Surge Blessing, which can be hard to get.

Psyker can be one of the hardest classes to learn, so don't beat yourself up.

[urban sandal]

yeah, use voidstrike unless you have to swap whether that's to get a mutant off your ass or a bunch of elites of your team with smite but otherwise, try get your back to a wall and just start cleaving everything you see

[lethal lagoon]

Not on voidstrike haha.

Staves are also a bit more dependent on gear.

Staves in general require high stats or can feel bad because their very operation is affected by the stats

[rain minnow]

Yeah, this is a lot of what I'm trying to figure out right now, voidstrike is obviously super powerful, so I'm trying to 'primary' that, and just swapping to smite to stun/throw hordes around when we're swamped, and then just swapping to melee for stuff like bulwarks, or if I'm in melee range with peril high and can't keep spamming voidstrike

But...learning the like...tempo of it all is a bit much so far.

[urban sandal]

the playstyle just may not be for you

[lethal lagoon]

That's where a dagger or dueling sword can help, zoom away

[rain minnow]

I was avoiding most of the crit-based passives because I had read another guide that shit on crit builds for anything outside specific weapons/builds with heavy crit investment

[urban sandal]

crit is good for void because of the Surge blessing

[haughty star]

god roll?

[lethal lagoon]

That's some.... short dodge distance

[rain minnow]

What makes you say that?

[haughty star]

no dodge

just charge

[lethal lagoon]

Do an experiment, try a game where you literally use nothing but voidstrike

It sounds like you are panicing a bit.

Honeslty, voidstrike works just fine solo, evne in melee range.

Just gotta get used to quell sliding and stuff

[urban sandal]

I didn't mean for it to come off like it may have, but just considering that you've practised and still don't really 'get it', for all you know one of the other staves could be made for you if you get what I mean

like you may suck with void but be good with trauma etc

[lethal lagoon]

Breh he just hit 30 on psyker

[haughty star]

ideally wouldn't first target be the dump stat for this shitshow?

[lethal lagoon]

That said, no reason to pigeon hole yourself into one staff

[haughty star]

cuz charge doesn't have first target

[lethal lagoon]

Surge is an easy staff to get a good roll on

I would still try my experiment out

[ornate hamlet]

First target still helps with having funny damage

[rain minnow]

Yeah, that's fair. But I'm still trying to get 1 set of gear together, trying to get a second is gonna be rough for now. Gotta take some time to grind it out.

I figure I should be able to figure this build out and if it turns out it's not for me, at least I have something to farm on to build the next build

[urban sandal]

yeah no worries

[haughty star]

i just tested it it's the same damage between this and my other one at 80

for first target anyway idk im ignant learn me up

[hasty breach]

i just finished a mission with a death count of 13

[lethal lagoon]

Are you aware of dodge sliding?

You can quell while dodge sliding

Helps a lot when pigeon holded by melee and stuff

Kind of key honestly.

[tribal girder]

BRUHHH

[urban sandal]

in the first week of the class overhaul there was a match that ended with 78 deaths

[haughty star]

at the very least forced uncanny out of it

people keep saying uncanny and slaughter are the meta together for this prolly for funni damage i think

[lethal lagoon]

Fake and edited 🙂

🙂

[tribal girder]

lmao

i wish

i m literally crying rn

all this time i been waiting for it and it gave me 2

[haughty star]

i just got one for me veteran

[lethal lagoon]

Meh.

[haughty star]

with 5 toughness as the base stat lmao

[rain minnow]

Yep, still working on that muscle memory for that.
I was not aware quell sliding was a big thing, but dodge sliding I've been working on

[tribal girder]

dodge slide is like the most important thing when playing staff

[lethal lagoon]

Esp voidstrike

[tribal girder]

you have no movement without it

[plucky flax]

The one on the right is fake. It's sub 77 rating

[tribal girder]

huh i thought its 76

[lethal lagoon]

Me too

[plucky flax]

I thought its 77 for 3 stam

I know 75 rating 3 stam is 100% fake

[lethal lagoon]

I just assumed since 75 was fake, 76 was real

I guess I never actually checked

[haughty star]

ok this one could be spicy

[tribal girder]

i mean i can go try it in a match

[haughty star]

id take weak spot damage if that fucker rolls out slaughterer

[lethal lagoon]

Steam dicussion board says 76 is good

[haughty star]

then just throw on uncanny iv that i just rolled

[rain minnow]

From that guide that was linked:

Smite randomly targets a body part with each tick, it can hit weakspots and stack True Aim by doing so.
Is that still true? Heard from a video that smite/surge staff used to do this but it was patched?

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah it was patched

Surprised that's still in the guide.
Rare mistake it seems.

[stone canyon]

On Surge Staff instead of Voidstrike 😭

[tribal girder]

patched

tried and didnt work

realasianrobot on that quick exploit video and it got patched quick

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah, I ran true-aim Surge/Smite for a while

Was fun

Did DD too.

[rain minnow]

You will gain a stack even if the crit doesn't hit
Does this mean attacks that miss and hit nothing can still be considered "crits"? Or am I misunderstanding?

[lethal lagoon]

That's correct.

[orchid shadow]

Where's the best place to stand while waiting for the Vigil Station elevator on Aurics with no bubble? That place always turns into a mess of snipers and maulers and ragers.

[lethal lagoon]

Crits are determined on release, not on hit

That's why assail turns purple

You can also watch for weapon affects

[rain minnow]

I'm colorblind. 😄

[spice veldt]

usually off to the sides (either side works, but the side with the stairway leading upwards is probably better because it's more open), to take cover from ranged spawns

and then hopefully you have something to deal with melee patrols if they spawn

[rain minnow]

What's the usual pattern with Voidstrike builds?
Should I be fully RMB charging or just spamming RMB bolts? Does it depend on the enemy I'm targetting?
Should I be running at high-ish peril for damage passives, or quelling as much as possible?

[lethal lagoon]

Ideally, you'd be "peril edging" to maintain bonsues at high peril, but that's extra stuff to keep track of and really not needed till auric t5s/maels.

[orchid shadow]

Okay. I'll try that. I've had so many runs that were going smooth up to that point only to just slam into a wall as soon as the elevator is called.

[spice veldt]

helps to ping the side that you're going to to motivate your teammates to go there as well

[lethal lagoon]

RMB charging based on the situation.

[urban sandal]

the primary fire bolts are good for quick and easy suppression on a group of shooters n what not so you can actually charge up a secondary without having toughness broken

[untold niche]

game not fun with randos so i tried to get my friend to buy :(

[untold niche]

are you running DD?

[lethal lagoon]

My friends stopped playing a couple weeks after patch 13 🥹

[untold niche]

if you are running DD this what i do:
against gunner (elite shooters), full DD stack --> full charge
against gunner (elite shooters), non full dd stack --> half charge
Against manny gunner for breathing room --> spam left click
ragers --> always half charge
Crusher --> always full charge charge
mauler --> always full charge
Horde --> 20% if they are near, if kisisng range spam rightclick at your feet if far, half charge
minigun ogryn --> spam left click to suppress

[ionic sorrel]

We're your friends now 😄

Also, same.

[lethal lagoon]

[tribal girder]

76 stam does work

and i ran into a typical knife zealot

[rain minnow]

DD?

[lethal lagoon]

This game just really scratches the right itch for some people and then not at all for others

[tribal girder]

literally me and him up and he just starts running through everything and ditch me

and he couldnt even makle the safe at the end lmao

like if u gonna play this stupid at least run stealth

[urban sandal]

I recently had one that was already by the first air lock in relay station while the rest of us were still on the stairs after the 1st encounter

[lethal lagoon]

When they run ahead, aggro half the map, offload the aggro with stealth, get mad people are too slow 😅

[tribal girder]

i think enemies will all take 10000 damage when the stealth zealot reaches the airlock while not in coherency and has loner

[spice veldt]

i've only ran into one such player just yesterday who was a stealth vet

[tribal girder]

that must be why

[paper loom]

Sorry asked last night but phone died before a reply, on mk2 ds what are optimal blessings and perks?

[tribal girder]

is there a reason to use the mk2?

[paper loom]

It's got godlike stats and rolled with 4 uncanny strikes and max unarmoured perk

[near wyvern]

Uncanny strike + shred regardless of mark but if you are using a DS use Mk4

[paper loom]

80% on everything but cleave

[tribal girder]

precog and uncanny

stat doesnt beat a good moveset

[rain minnow]

oh, disrupt destiny, not atm

[tribal girder]

you are better off using mk4

[urban sandal]

you'd still likely be better off using a decent mk4 than a great mk2

[paper loom]

Ah that's a ahame

[tribal girder]

yeh

[paper loom]

I quite like the heavy slash

[tribal girder]

keep an eye on mk5 cuz that one has good dodfe distance

[lethal lagoon]

You wrote the guide right? There's an error in the smite section.
"Smite randomly targets a body part with each tick, it can hit weakspots and stack True Aim by doing so."
Also, great stuff, use it all the time.

[paper loom]

Whats the idea behind the special move on ds the poke?

[tribal girder]

huge stagger

[paper loom]

Is it worth using?

[urban sandal]

stagger

[paper loom]

Really

[tribal girder]

can stagger crusher on 1 head hit

godlike

[urban sandal]

can stop a rager or mutant in their tracks

[paper loom]

Ahhh

[tribal girder]

also combo tool

[lethal lagoon]

Heavy poke followed by insta special poke.

[paper loom]

So use instead of push?

[tribal girder]

it helps you stack uncanny shred

no still use push

push is 360 degree

[paper loom]

Can you poke bursters?

[tribal girder]

stab is 1 point

[lethal lagoon]

Technically, yes

[tribal girder]

yes but push has a long active hitbox

therefore more forgiving

and you can spam push

[paper loom]

Makes sense

I was just using it after 1 heavy jab

[near wyvern]

You wrote the guide right?
Yes

AHH that's a leftover from patch 13-14, will fix, thx for letting me know 👍

Fixed

[spiral minnow]

what would be best for voidstaff? blast radius over warp resist probably?
rolled this one

[tribal girder]

this is like perfect roll tbh

[near wyvern]

Blast radius is dump stat for void

Check Psyker Atheneum for recommended stat priorities

[tribal girder]

blast radius can make it harder to hit beast of nurgles butt

like if ur projectile is too big you have to aim very carefully or it will clip the body and miss the weakspot

[lethal lagoon]

Eww, why is that being its butt grosser than it being a pimple?

[tribal girder]

idk

[spiral minnow]

ok, wish me luck on blessings .) someting to ncie start would be nice .)

[tribal girder]

at least beast of nurgle is like a big friendly dude

he just wants to hug

[haughty star]

moment of truth bois

GOD DAMN IT IT"S PRECOGNITION

fuck me

[tribal girder]

i mean

precog is good

[haughty star]

it's grade iv

[tribal girder]

and?

[haughty star]

it's a sick irony that it would put it on this specific sword

lol

[tribal girder]

oh

[haughty star]

yeah i want slaughter

i have grade 4 uncanny

so i was just gonna keep the 10 percent, put unarmored on there and have a hayday

or flak

[tribal girder]

u dont have to have unarmored or flack

[haughty star]

just hilarious that it put precog on a sword with 40 mobility lmfao

[tribal girder]

my illisi has like block effeciency or smth

works fine

[spiral minnow]

what should i refine ranged elite dmg? crit?

[haughty star]

yee i already have one that works fine tho lol

[lethal lagoon]

I love my baby. (Ignore the perks).

[untold niche]

how come, p13 is the best

[tribal girder]

crit chance or carapace

[untold niche]

its the reason i bought this game xD

[haughty star]

i want that combo soooo bad

[lethal lagoon]

That's why we all came back haha

[haughty star]

at least i got uncanny tonight tho

i'll chock that up as a w

[tribal girder]

but the one you have rn is not even that good. Mobility is below 50

[haughty star]

that's not the one i main but really mobility is preferance and objectively the dump stat for blaze forces

[tribal girder]

idk about losing one dodge

[cunning bone]

@plucky flax wanna share that Spotify playlist in the surge smite clutch vid? I need new music

[haughty star]

it's fine

[tribal girder]

i guess if you have deflector its fine

just block and slowly back away

[haughty star]

noo i was hoping for slaughter so i could replace that garbo deflector with uncanny

[plucky flax]

The inks spot

[haughty star]

basically the sword above lol

[tribal girder]

lol ok

why uncanny on illisi

[haughty star]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-maximum-power-power-spongebob-squarepants-full-power-gif-22777727

[tribal girder]

you want to hit crusher with that sword

?

[haughty star]

i want to hit everything with it

lol

i either wanna go unstable and slaughter or uncanny and slaughter

[tribal girder]

i dont recommend it but u do u

[haughty star]

it's going on a melee focused build lol

plus it's got a flat sweep so it's basically instagib for uncanny

uncanny isn't on repeated hit lol it's weakspot in general

[tribal girder]

yeah but even if you have uncanny its not good at single target

[cunning bone]

Appreciated

[tribal girder]

your lights are assasin

but lights are weak against carapace

[haughty star]

why would you light with a illisi

lol

just

in general

wtf lol

get a dueling sword if you wanna spam lights

[tribal girder]

so you gonna heavy a crushers head with illisi?

[lethal lagoon]

Don't squash his dreams harder than already did!

[tribal girder]

do like half the damage of a ds4 and spend double the swing time

[spiral minnow]

can deflector block sniper bullets?

[haughty star]

it already 3 shots them with unstable and deflector on my current err day

[haughty star]

ds4 won't take out the horde around it in the process lol

[lethal lagoon]

I don't like the way it donks off their heads

feels unsatisfying

[urban sandal]

iirc only ogryn shield can block snipers

[tribal girder]

you are not going to hit the crushers head and take out the horde

they are not the same height

[haughty star]

you're not getting the point lol

ds4 isn't as good for hording

illisi can kill crusher ez with right perks

why would you not want both

not saying youre wrong for using ds4.

[tribal girder]

i m gonna try that later and see how fast i can kill a crusher with illisi

[plucky flax]

The exact playlist here. I was just listening to some calm 30s 40s music while playing and they made me clutch
No more calm
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3IlYA4ZCNhm6EXRhpEEq8u?si=ZylvZI-TQQOTEzIZxmoU5Q&pi=e-ebLypsa5TAix

[haughty star]

do it lol the one i daily has unstable and deflector and it does it easy enough. i use scriers and dd tho so GL testing in the meat grinder lol

[cunning bone]

About to use blaze trauma and listen to the playlist cause i cant listen to music while playing zealot anymore now that i know critical hits have a unique sound i should be paying attention to, thanks

[lethal lagoon]

3 uncharged heavies kill a crusher with scirer's

Just tried it out

Uncanny was up, 0 slaughter.

[haughty star]

alternatively

[plucky flax]

You can feel the crit

[cunning bone]

💀

[haughty star]

i could throw unstable on this fucker and have a perk open lol

[plucky flax]

Have you not heard of the ink spots before? From fallout games?

[cunning bone]

My controller vibrates when i crit??

[plucky flax]

Oh probably doesn't.

But with knife you can sorta feel when you're going to crit soon since the crit chance is high.

[cunning bone]

I have like a song or 2 of theirs in one of my personal playlists

[plucky flax]

Classic group.

[tribal girder]

use the mod better buffs and put the key buff you need to see on the screen instead of relying of crit sound

[haughty star]

watchu thing @lethal lagoon go for the low mobility one or low warp resist. imma roll unstable for now to get by

[lethal lagoon]

Do you use special while in sciriers?

[haughty star]

i don't dare lol

[cunning bone]

I dont pay attention or know much about bands or artists, i just like songs and make playlists around the songs i like

[lethal lagoon]

Then probably low warp

Ima go run a melee only illy run, haven't since they first released the weapon

The crusher thing was a surprise

[cunning bone]

Ill try to pay attention more, yeah you have a point

[haughty star]

word than it'll be easier to keep uptime on unstable and warp rider

[plucky flax]

Do you not have different genre of playlist though?

[cunning bone]

I wish i could, i play on xbox

[plucky flax]

Or it's just 1 giant playlist with mixed genres?

[lethal lagoon]

What perks you think I should run for Illy melee build?

[haughty star]

melee illyses psyker is more punishing yet oddly more rewarding than most lmao

[cunning bone]

I do. Ive made punk playlists, inde, romantic, rock, phonk, old school, ect

[plucky flax]

Phonk

[lethal lagoon]

I just wish Illy had innate deflector, fuck it was so good on release

[haughty star]

i liked unarmored and flak on my old one cuz it didn't have anything other than the peril loop to help it out

[plucky flax]

Ruski phonk be like when I'm in my shitty car

[cunning bone]

I have 1 of those too but dont listen to it much

[haughty star]

i was kinda thinking flak and carapece for my end game one tho if it ever happens

[lethal lagoon]

Ima try out flak carpace

Also, did anyone else notice diamonte doesn't decrease or increase much

I guess everything is sorted

[cunning bone]

Looo, no who they are but sounds lit

Gonna look them rn though

[plucky flax]

Oh it's just a lot of phonk producers are from Russia.

[cunning bone]

Didn’t know the russians got down like that

[plucky flax]

I think they popularise the genre.

[haughty star]

well it's not amazing but

it's better than the last one lol

[lethal lagoon]

Double mutant damage at least

[cunning bone]

O, did not know that

[haughty star]

Illyses melee psyker with scriars and dd is basically anikan skywalker gameplay

except stiff flatulance and a mistimed dodge could be the death of you

[lethal lagoon]

It was complete Jedi when Illy had innate deflector(why fatshark, why!)

[haughty star]

yeah deflector is reallly cool but slaughterer is a no brainer and the other damage heavy perks are just so unequivically based

i have this, some dood told me it'd be perfect for what he dubbed as a "fireman's build"

light on fire with purgatus and run around whacking everything engulfed in flames lol

[lethal lagoon]

I could never really get into the axes in this game, the only thing that feels a bit off to me in terms of melee weapons

Anyways, off to melee-only 🙂

[haughty star]

yeah tbh it's probably gonna be a blessing donation even tho it is perrrty based

[haughty star]

lemme know what you decidee for blitz, i use bb because snipers and pinned down by gunners because lazy teammates lol

[lethal lagoon]

I'm thinking revolver for snipers and assial for when I screw up and get in a terrible spot.

[urban sandal]

assail can already 1 shot snipers anyway

[haughty star]

lol fair enough. i use columnus how you'd use assail and bb how youd use revolver lmao

[lethal lagoon]

I mean the goal is to 99% melee

So double insurance for stuff I can't melee

[urban sandal]

fair

[lethal lagoon]

I don't wanna BM my team either

So assial is for last ditch stuff

[haughty star]

columnus really good for swinging your way out of a spot or making a hole too

i just spray with it to make a opening for teammate revives etc. idk it's a theory build and a work in progress always lol

also my hardest, most frustrating, and funnest at times build to play with lol

now i have a fairly decent sword to go with it

this my columnus for aforementioned build so far

[untold niche]

then how come they leave

so sad

[haughty star]

open to ideas for blessings

i'm honestly fine with the perks on it lol

[tame venture]

H&R->fire frenzy

[urban sandal]

could swap hit and run with dumdum or fire frenzy

[tame venture]

oh, i thought that was dumdum not deathspitter

yeah, DD or FF

[haughty star]

So try for both?

[plush oak]

Dum dum is necessary for that big damage. Mobility is dump on columnus

[tame venture]

deathspitter is fine

[haughty star]

i could probably leave the perks alone tbh

[plush oak]

Id play dumdum + deathspitter

Yea perks are fine

[urban sandal]

yeah perks are fine assuming you can take care of flak easily with melee

[plush oak]

Unfortunate stability roll, but its not that bad

If ur gonna use it close- med range and burst at long range it should be fine

[haughty star]

mostly just use it to get out of bad spots lol

[plush oak]

Either way great gun 💪

[haughty star]

things are looking up

[plush oak]

Yessirr

[haughty star]

i was about to blow up last night lol

[plush oak]

Average night of psyker gaming 💀

[haughty star]

lottery system is cruel sometimes

[urban sandal]

[haughty star]

just in general man i had nothing but like one goood axe that i'll never use for my psyker and one good revolver for my vet lmao

[plush oak]

Dw i spent 600k+ and 25k+ plasteel to get dumdum so i feel ya

And its dumdum t3 not even t4

[haughty star]

lottery can be really punishing

[urban sandal]

I hoard my mats in the hopes the crafting system won't stay as shitty, I'm gonna be a plasteel millionaire by that point at this rate

[haughty star]

i got dum dum 4 for the hit recon lasgun

[plush oak]

Yes u just gotta grind and hit the slots

[haughty star]

[plush oak]

SAME and its from a damn mission reward 😭😭

[haughty star]

sire milk been good to me tbh

[urban sandal]

mission rewards and melk are your best bet for good blessings tbh

unless you want run n gun 7 times in a row from hadron

[haughty star]

Not psyker related but i got deez from the milkman earlier lol

quantom leap forward for my revolver vet. it's the light attack spam model but i can live with it cuz it straight mows hordes on damnation lol with all the flat rate weakspot shit my vette has

been a good night for weapons for me lol i was boutta put it down and never pick it up again last night

[spiral minnow]

how big is dmg of dying to peril of the warp? on third diffculty can it oneshot specials?

[urban sandal]

I one shot a bulwark on damnation with it, but I'm not sure if he had already been touched by someone else

[rapid widget]

What would the 'dump stat' of the Catachan Mk4 Devil's Claw? I'm assuming Cleave Damage?

[urban sandal]

mobility

[rapid widget]

Really? I would figure more dodges would be beneficial with the weapon.

[urban sandal]

your big defensive tool is the parry

when mixed with kinetic deflection and even +2 stamina perk or +3 stamina curio if you want to be extra safe, you can just sit around blocking and parrying things all day

[spice veldt]

and dodges don't really matter once you're past a certain point

if you have enough dodges and they're not terribly short like the psword's, then it's whatever

[lethal lagoon]

@haughty star I think EP Surge Smite rotted my Psyker brain, cause at the very start of my melee psyker run I ran straight torwards an Og gunner and got down 😆

Shit was fun though.

[haughty star]

lmao yeah it is

glassy as hell but also viscious as hell when it works right

[lethal lagoon]

All the overkill damage is fun to look at

I think it was higher than my actual damage at one point

[rain minnow]

Tried running through a mission with just sticking on void staff as much as I possibly could, only swapped to sword or smite a couple times, but just feels like I'm just not getting enough done. I feel like I charge and fire and by the time the projectile hits something, someone else on the team's already killed it

top damage was a surge staff psyker

I don't mind not having top damage, but I feel like I'm lagging way too far behind

[lethal lagoon]

Have you played any t5s?

[rain minnow]

I think I dipped into a T5 once or twice, but it's s bit too rough still

[lethal lagoon]

I mean some of it is just going to be raw time

Just seems like they are moving faster than you

These things come with experience, no real good shortcut.

[ornate hamlet]

Playing with a surge voidstrike I felt dirty

It was so easy to deal with hordes, elites, specialists, crushers, bulwarks

Anything that gave you a mild amount of time to charge was dead

Though surge staff does have the benefit of being a no-aim no-brain staff that still deals solid damage and charges very fast

I think you need to improve with voidstrike still, but there's no shame to losing to a staff that is hitscan, charges faster and aims for you

[lethal lagoon]

Surge staff seems like it would be beginner friendly, but any newer psykers I see usuing do like 200k damage in an auric 😅

[ornate hamlet]

Well, it does help to have the perks, the blessings and the talents

[lethal lagoon]

I inspected 😅

[urban sandal]

I've only ever used the trauma staff

[lethal lagoon]

I think over-time you learn to pace the game differently

Just an experience thing.

Surge seems maybe easier cause you don't know what it takes?

I dunno

[ornate hamlet]

I just remember walking around loosely firing at anything I thought might be an enemy

I also found out that way that they super buffed the attack range at some point

[plucky flax]

Yes let the surge flow through you

Play with smite too

[lethal lagoon]

[plucky flax]

Pop some creeping flames

Ez auto aim gaming

[lethal lagoon]

I feel like a newer psyker running that would literally never learn anything 😅

But then again people can be bad at it

[lethal lagoon]

Did you ever try ep smite?

[plucky flax]

Not yet I didn't play since we talked last night.

I fooled around a bit in meatgrinder the damage was pogger

[lethal lagoon]

You can try rolling a surge staff They are pretty forgiving to roll, only 4 real blessings in the pool.

EP smite -> shriek -> contiune, does about 809-90% of a rager's health

With teammate chip damage, that's enough for a PC chain

Woosh

[urban sandal]

809% of a rager's health?

huge

[lethal lagoon]

[plucky flax]

Kinda been playing more zealot than psyker these days

[lethal lagoon]

😞

[plucky flax]

I played a round of vet yesterday and used my columbus for 90% of the map taking all ammo shooting into horde.

My brain is rotting.

[lethal lagoon]

That's how fatshark meant for the game to be played

[plucky flax]

Shooting crusher with machine gun but onslaught brittleness

[lethal lagoon]

Running face first into a Og gunner but forgetting you aren't stunning everything

[plucky flax]

I saw on reddit about gunners stun lock

It feels the same as ever for me. Always been stun locked by gunners for as long as I can remember.

[lethal lagoon]

There was a short period where Og gunner would kinda lag lock you

The server wasn't keeping up

But they fixed it and it was never that big of a deal

[urban sandal]

this kind of thing never happened to me until the last patch

[lethal lagoon]

TBF, gunner lock is a lot more noticeable on melee psyker

[lethal lagoon]

Did they fix the stagger talent affecting ranged?

[urban sandal]

I don't use twbs

obviously it would solve that from happening on the zealot but it happens on others too

[lethal lagoon]

Ah you know, I noticed it felt weird a few nights ago on Ogryn.

But I assumed I was just tired, it was one of those matchs where I was reviving.... a lot.

Gunners just seemed to have more presence than usual

[gloomy magnet]

same situation for me last night

[upper sun]

i just learned that you can vent mid death peril animation and survive

[lethal lagoon]

Do you mean when you are just looking angry at your hands, or actually during the boom?

[upper sun]

yeah when you freak out and start looking at your hands

i havent tried mix explosion tho

[lethal lagoon]

They should really put that into the tutorial

[gloomy magnet]

[near wyvern]

You can usually get out of it if you start sprinting away from them and keep your cool

Stop forcing it, turn around, reposition and make a new approach

[plucky flax]

I am not cool enough. Usually I just die.

[lethal lagoon]

Or surge

[upper sun]

wait grimoires still count if i eat the?

[near wyvern]

Should not but haven't tested and given Fatshark game it's very possible that something like that is in the game cause spaghetti coding

[lethal lagoon]

I thought the "pick up" language in the contract meant they changed it to just having it once.

Not that I ever run the contract lmao

[upper sun]

we had 1/2 books and i was the one carrying it after we beat the boss since the game was ending i did the whole "eat" animation and the 1/2 counter didnt go down

[lethal lagoon]

Oh that huh

Has anyone ever tested what happens if you all die after beating the boss?

[inland ridge]

is there a safe talent tree for assail spam?

[cunning bone]

I often hesitate when i engage a pack of gunners for that exact reason

[inland ridge]

all my deaths as a new psyker is me exploding from peril

[cunning bone]

Terrifying

[inland ridge]

i hate it

[upper sun]

like all of us?

[cunning bone]

Quell

[upper sun]

quill it with R or run venting shriek to reduce peril

[lethal lagoon]

You can use vent/shriek to stop a peril explosion

[inland ridge]

is that weapon perk or talent perk?

[lethal lagoon]

Your "F" ability

[inland ridge]

oh cool ty

didn't know that

[upper sun]

you need like level 11? before you can reach it

[lethal lagoon]

You start with vent, though it's less effective

[urban sandal]

you start with it by default

[upper sun]

damn its been a while for me lol

[lethal lagoon]

Although it's best to just practice and try not to throw assail shards at 100%

[urban sandal]

it's a bad habit to get into if you plan on working your way up in difficulty

[haughty star]

i still haven't had the balls to roll that green surge stave i have

[inland ridge]

yea the problem is when i spam it, i gotta stop spamming assail

[haughty star]

i just know hadron gonna grief me out of it

[upper sun]

also its easier to quil with a force melee weapon since you can still attack and quil without switching weapons

[lethal lagoon]

#psyker-class message And then embrace your decreasing number of braincellls as you run Surge/Smite

(all the new psykers look away from the meme build)

[haughty star]

think im just gonna keep it in my pocket for now and spare myself the disappointment lol

my builds memey enough as it is

[lethal lagoon]

[haughty star]

fun doe

[urban sandal]

the longer you wait the dirtier she's gonna do you

learned that the hard way

[lethal lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/bedge-pepe-sleep-gif-24023312

Hadron after ruining everyone's gear

[haughty star]

it's first perk was weakspot damage

[urban sandal]

[haughty star]

[lethal lagoon]

It can only go up from there

[haughty star]

literally me looking at the consecrate button^^

[lethal lagoon]

I mean that literally, it can't be worse

[upper sun]

"i know its hard to remember plays in the background" while psykers play a point and click in a war zone

[haughty star]

my psyker is far from point and click

but also far off meta so take that witha grain of salt. Im lovingly calling it the "we have zealot at home" build

[lethal lagoon]

Trauma gameplay

[urban sandal]

I run the black sheep of psyker builds bb/dclaw/trauma no EP

[upper sun]

you mean the running clearing everything saving someone and dying build?

thats pretty much me

[lethal lagoon]

I feel like that would be black sheep if you did run trauma with EP haha

[haughty star]

mines illyses/bb/columnus/scriers/dd lol

[urban sandal]

true

[haughty star]

figure you got all ranges covered that way.

hit- everything

columnus- stay away from me

bb- gtfo

i try to balance all my builds cuz i get big mad not being able to do something crucial lol

[lethal lagoon]

The ONE time I don't bring anti-crusher, only crushers that no one can handle

[upper sun]

crushers? not my problem someone else deal pls

[gloomy magnet]

a perfect build = i can solo auric maelstrom

[pale hemlock]

LF help with 90% BB damge to monstrosities https://discord.gg/TEAQZzas

[plucky flax]

To solo you need speed to run.

Since there are only a certain amount of enemies on the map at the same time.

[near wyvern]

Pls use #vox-lfg-emea or #vox-lfg-nasa

[rain minnow]

Do psykers have less base stamina than other classes or something? I have +2 stam and stam regen curio, and I can watch my team start running, and immediately chase after them, and they always outpace me. Infuriating constantly trying to play catchup and getting cut off by spawns

[urban sandal]

psykers have 2 stamina base

[tired estuary]

yes, they have less base stamina but faster stamina regen

[rain minnow]

[plucky flax]

Not so much faster stamina regen but shorter delay to regen stam.

If that makes sense.

[spice veldt]

1 stamina base but it also probably depends on the weapon you have while running

and zealot/ogryn having 75% of the sprint speed bonus when at zero stamina compared to psyker and vet who have 50% of their sprint speed bonus

though you can always just sprint or bunny hop because your sprint speed resets back to full each time you reinitiate a sprint even at zero stamina

[near wyvern]

With Psykers you can spam sprint slide to get a looong way before running out of stamina. With some weapons (like DS and Combat Blade) you can regen more stamina during slide than you use during the sprint.

You only drop slightly in movement speed when spamming sprint slides compared to only sprinting but use like 10% of the stamina compared to purely sprinting.

Also bonus fact, sprint slide counts as a dodge for attacks but doesn't consume any dodge charges

[tough cipher]

So i just got this; been in need for a decent surge staff for a while now but wasn't really sure if the charge rate on this would be a big dealbreaker? Obviously love the rest of the stats but yeah, good or keep rolling? ( i know it's obv going to be rng for perks/blessings still

[plush oak]

Not a huge dealbreaker assuming ur gonna slap on warp flurry t4.
Though, on the surge im not even sure which is the dump stat as every stat is important 💀

Maybe warp rez i guess?

Mine is exactly the same as yours but the charge rate is switched with the crit bonus and it works wonders

[tough cipher]

Alright, yeah i was planning on going Flurry + Nexus - just haven't looked into staffs much so I wasn't sure how important it was going to be, I think ideally it'd be warp res or quell speed tho? Ill upgrade it and see how it goes as I'm low on dockets for now :p

[plush oak]

Quell speed is pretty important on all staffs, especially on surge just cuz it builds so much peril.
General rule is quell speed > warp rez anyways.
But yea deffo go flurry + nexus on it, gonna deal some big damage

And for perks id go crit chance + carapace on surge

[tough cipher]

Got it! cheers; let's pray for a decent perk then

[plush oak]

But carapace is the important one

[plucky flax]

I think on surge the scaling for charge rate is pretty okay.

No where near as bad as trauma.

[tough cipher]

Yee, hoping to roll atleast flurry/nexus atleast so i can guarantee carap

awesome, thank you guys for the update & info

[plucky flax]

Check the stat break down.

[plush oak]

Yw sibling

[tough cipher]

cheers!

[plucky flax]

[midnight jolt]

Saw this and thought, well, I won't use it but who knows, it looks too good:

on that note, shop being generous today 😂

[plush oak]

Brunt out here with the saturday bangers huh

Cant wait to check my shop and see 304 max roll

💀😭

[midnight jolt]

You will live sibling 😂

[midnight jolt]

Let me true luck begins 😂

[plush oak]

Well if brunt doesnt brick it, hadron will 😭

[tough cipher]

close enough

[plush oak]

Brunt is gonna have someone jump in there and strangle him someday

[tough cipher]

yeah, he's pushing his luck

[midnight jolt]

I like the imperial cosmetic bundle, fight me:

[spiral minnow]

whats the easiest way to get good curios? waiting for the shop to change every hour or so?

[urban sandal]

yup

or if you're willing to give up the chance for weapons/blessings you can put chance for curio from mission reward

[ornate hamlet]

I did melk randoms cus I didn’t have time to keep waiting for shop refresh

[spiral minnow]

time to wait for shop exchange then, dont have much of melk currency, but good to know it is there, ty .)

[upper sun]

Pretty much

[midnight jolt]

You can have a 2nd character for weeklies, the currencies are all shared

[split oxide]

Be honest:

• "Psykers have a hard time pulling their weight in T5 Orthus."

[hard widget]

I definitely do when Im playing orthus on psyker

focus target vet and ogryn feel good and zealots kinda too tanky

[split oxide]

I'm not saying you do-or-dont.
I'm saying the effort is more demanding.

[hard widget]

well psyker does great when the fights going well, but when its going to shit you tend to need a lot of help

[split oxide]

Agreed

[midnight jolt]

what is Orthus?

[steel egret]

twins.

[midnight jolt]

ohhhh, yeah, these bastards

[steel egret]

its not really problem for psyker if rest of the team isnt "what the bells do?"

[rocky raven]

XD

[midnight jolt]

hey now 😂

[plush oak]

Just gunker if ur gonna play twins

[rocky raven]

Id also wager based on anecdotal experience in pugs that most psykers struggling are also just running a generic build vs geared toward twins encounter

and based on the absolute debauchery that is an average psyker skil tree....

[plush oak]

I mostly run purg or blaze trauma.
On twins i run exclusively gun psyker

[steel egret]

The arena of battle itself is pretty convenient for Purgatus, the shock CC and so on.

[plush oak]

Works like a charm

[rocky raven]

^and your 2 comments have 95% more consideration taken than the median skilltree lol. not askin for much, bar be low

[tacit stump]

why the hell did scyers gaze made me explode

[hoary badge]

The future was simply too mindblowing

[plush oak]

Had it happen once too.
Also did u know it doesnt work with warp siphon? Thank FatShart

[tacit stump]

i use it with deny destiny

[plush oak]

Yea it works great with it

[tacit stump]

but it always feels like i am on a timer

[plush oak]

I have only 1 build with warp siphon and gaze.
I pair it with the purgatus and its absolutely insane even with it not working from a cdr perspective

Crit on purg = double stacks. Melts everything

[quasi junco]

lol surge staff the most braindead weapon in this game

i like it

[hoary badge]

I feel like I rarely use Scriers off cooldown

But that could just be me

[plush oak]

Try to use it off cd. No reason not to. More dmg overall

Very short cd with the cd aura

Which you should be usin btw 😂

Also theres that node that reduces vd by 5% / specialist kill by anyone in coherency which is absolutely insane

[hoary badge]

Psykinetic's aura

[plush oak]

U could be in gaze or at least have the buff up for like 70% of the game

Big damage

[hoary badge]

Constant peril overloading just fills me with unneeded anxiety lol

[plush oak]

Well

[rocky raven]

riding the warp is the core to almost all psyker builds lol

[plush oak]

If ur usin that node (which you should) that gives u up to 20% base damage scaling with peril

U should be edging that shit hardcore

Big damage

[hoary badge]

I'd also rather not be caught with my pants down for actual power spikes and I don't trust my muscle memory with quick swapping to blitz when my peril is peaked

[plush oak]

Or if u dont wanna worry about it so much just play gun psyker

[hoary badge]

I edge warp rider all the time with staves, but scrier's ramping is annoying to keep a handle on

[plush oak]

Yea in my experience the only real contender for gaze staff wise is purg just cuz it doesnt build so much peril

[tacit stump]

is it weird to use purge with assail

[rocky raven]

its an option, but it also takes up more trait pts / locks you out of skills on left half of tree you generally want in purg setups

[tacit stump]

i use assail rightclick to take down gunners and range specials

[plush oak]

Surge right click has 25m range. Left click is pretty much assail but with more shots

[tacit stump]

i used all staffs

[plush oak]

But u need to aim it

[tacit stump]

i know how to use them

[plush oak]

My fav are deffo purg and trauma

[plucky flax]

Veri pro.

[tacit stump]

purgatus goes normal with brainburst it is fine when you know that you have someone in your team who deals well with range specialist else i go assail to avoid this problem

i play a lot of brainburst with purgatus but i know it problems

[plucky flax]

Me I play smite only and support the team. 👼

[plush oak]

Smite bobble

[tacit stump]

smite only ... i hope you use a lot your meele weapons and staff and only in certain situations use smite

[plush oak]

I rarely use the brain rupture on purg, even tho i take it in the build

[plucky flax]

Nope.. Only smite.

[plush oak]

Crit purg gaming

Big damage

[tacit stump]

the only build i use smite in is gunpsyker

and only for hound or rager packs

to make breathing room else i go beserk with the gun and deimos

[upper sun]

smite relies on your team hitting stunned enemies

[tacit stump]

^

[upper sun]

i trust no1 not even myself 😦

[tacit stump]

thats why i never really play smite psyker but when your most damage comes from meele weapon and gun it is a good clutch tool

[upper sun]

force swords are really fun tbh staffs dont doo too much unless you get lucky with blessings imo

[midnight jolt]

try dueling swords 😉

[upper sun]

ye i need to build a new one

i upgraded the first one i got at base 328 which was kind of a waste

the animation cancelling with the alt attack is really nice i should give them another try

[midnight jolt]

don't craft before you are Lv30 btw

[plush oak]

Mk4 is best imo

[upper sun]

yeah

ive been 30 for a while but now im just sniping any weapon with base 370+ from the store and hoarding resources until i figure out which weapons i like best

[plucky flax]

Don't try blaze trauma it's really bad.

[midnight jolt]

why Discord didn't render that image?

[rocky raven]

let discord have its sat poop in peace lol

servers are having performance issues rn is all

nah

[vocal cliff]

Nope

Even some emotes won't work

[upper sun]

almost not quite

[rocky raven]

its media handler related portion thats having issues so ya

[midnight jolt]

memes overload

[plucky flax]

Blaze trauma meme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PRiD-sWsNQ

[midnight jolt]

is Blaze trauma a meme or is it a meme only on swords?

[plush oak]

Its prolly one of the best overall builds u can run if ur running staff

[plucky flax]

It's bad and need buff

[midnight jolt]

I have the god roll for purgatus, on a decent purgatus so working on getting a better one

https://tenor.com/bHJGR.gif

all I want is more power

[rocky raven]

comon FS get rid useless BB kinetic flay perk >> give soulblaze dot detonation talent 🙏

[midnight jolt]

or make blaze increase your crit chance per soul stack

crit blaze 😉

Add some added per to blaze

[rocky raven]

so long as you have the burn/cone/ decent quell thats rly what matters for purg

[plush oak]

Have u tried it with gaze and warp siphon?

Its so busted

[steep estuary]

Pergatussy

[rocky raven]

Dont Sully my good name with your debauchery

[plucky flax]

I'd take 1% crit chance per warp charge.

[steep estuary]

Don't sully my name with your cowardice

[midnight jolt]

Discord has failed you

I can't find a cosmetic chest piece that goes well with the rogue hat, was that a set in past?

[rocky raven]

trader hat?

[midnight jolt]

I can find the trader's hat, but not something call imperial/imperium pattern or something

[rocky raven]

you lost me lol

[midnight jolt]

is an ~~chest ~~ upper body piece that ends in the same leather material as the hat

[brisk lance]

Hey guys, is there a generally recommended Purg staff build?

[quasi junco]

The jist is venting shriek, creeping flames, perilous combustion, warp charges

wildfire looks good on paper but doesn't do much

[brisk lance]

What about as an off-hand weapon? Deimos or Dueling?

[quasi junco]

i like deimos for mutie and carapace damage

or you coudl go DS4 and poke poke poke

[brisk lance]

Do you know off hand what percentages on Deimos you need to hit 1067 for the heavy attack 1-shot?

I keep getting really close, but I can't manage to hit 1067.

[quasi junco]

unfortunately I do not