psyker-class

[plucky flax]

If you're very based you run the new revovler (it's bad)

[rich jolt]

How is new revolver bad?

Its pretty good in my experience

[snow coral]

I don't like not being able to snipe across the map with the new one

god I'm so tired from carrying things

[plucky flax]

It has no piercing.

[spice veldt]

and seems to interact badly with deadshot

[snow coral]

auric damnation, normally not that big a spread but I'll take it and brag while I can, lol

I give Joan a pass on the low score because they were dome/smite and did some awesome CC for us

[plucky flax]

Based smite user.

I too am a smiter.

[snow coral]

Yeah I was running revolver dome/smite for a long time until I learned about the columnus gunker build

mad respect for smite

[rich jolt]

That is a pretty bad downside

But go its so fun taking out my gun after smiting fanning all six shots into an elite and going back to smite

[plucky flax]

Yep it's very cool and very fun.

But compared to old revolver it's no contest.

[fresh ravine]

I'm a noob here, but how did you get a stat screen?

[static needle]

***king HADROOOON!!!!

[plucky flax]

Is cheating

[fresh ravine]

[static needle]

BiS perks for zarona revolver? Cara/flak?

[harsh urchin]

dude come on

you literally asked this just a few hours ago

in the exact same channel lol

#psyker-class message

you gotta learn how to start using the search functionality

[manic halo]

freaks why did you not inform me of the truama soul blaze built sooner

this shit is gas

i will not forgive you

[long wharf]

it's... gas?

[manic halo]

yeah

like gasoline

its fire

[analog agate]

literally

[rich jolt]

Wonder what fartshark will add for new psyker weapons in the future

Im not to familiar with psyker weaponry in 40k so im interested to see what they concoct in there cauldron because there are a lot of possibilities

[long wharf]

but... gasoline isn't fire

gasoline fumes are what ignite

[chrome patrol]

Force Dagger plz

[fresh ravine]

ong

[spice veldt]

dual wield force daggers

[fresh ravine]

i will never run anything else

[rich jolt]

Its a way of saying something is good phoenixe

[spice veldt]

i want my god damn 2h and dual wield weapons

[fresh ravine]

I refuse to use ammo

[chrome patrol]

Yes sibling

[fresh ravine]

purgatus- Mark V force sword for me

[long wharf]

psyker with bubble shield and 2h force claymore when FartShack

[chrome patrol]

Actual question is there a gun that uses warp in 40k? One that we could wield

[fresh ravine]

Force Nipple Lasers when?

[long wharf]

those are just called Force Tassles

[fresh ravine]

ah apologies

[rich jolt]

Id love to get a staff that can shoot death rays

[fresh ravine]

i am still vermin

[rich jolt]

Im sure there is

Like a operator amp from warframe

[chrome patrol]

Would be cool to have one

[long wharf]

I'd be surprised if the Imperium used one, but I'd be equally surprised if there wasn't a chaos marine chapter that didn't use a warp powered gun

[rich jolt]

I think they mean like a psyker channeling doodad

[chrome patrol]

Prob nothing that would fit in the darktide universe then

[rich jolt]

To shoot warp bullets

[chrome patrol]

Nah I meant like a actual gun or rifle

Instead of bullets shooting warp energy

[rich jolt]

Wouldn't want to see what happens if it malfunctions

[static needle]

I just wanna make sure before I consecrate to lvl 4, what are the BiS perks for zarona revolver as a gunpsyker

someone told me cara + flak before but i wanna see if someone else has a similar suggestion or something slightly different

[chrome patrol]

The same like always in pugs with psykers

[rich jolt]

Vet forgets to vent heat and suddenly theres a beast of nurgle tearing through reality

[fossil snow]

mrrrph mrrph!

if I could shave off the wings at least

[rich jolt]

I love that helmet

Bought it and the thrice blessed set its so drippy

[static needle]

what are the BiS perks for zarona revolver (surgical + rending) as a gunpsyker?

[fossil snow]

I just like that psyker has better tf2 pyro drip than zealot

[static needle]

What to change here?

[static needle]

.

[marble wedge]

Probably wanna stack surgical and crucian

[ornate hamlet]

Zarona is surgical and handcannon

[static needle]

in terms of perks tho? cara and ...?

[ornate hamlet]

Carapace is nice to have, and I think with maniac it might hit some breakpoints

But unyielding would be the one to change anyway

[thick valley]

I personally find it more fun to roll both blessings to experiment with synergies. You have two excellent perks already

[ornate hamlet]

It's important to one-shot the non-ogryn taggables

[static needle]

already got mutant counter: duelling sword one tap

[static needle]

flak then?

[ornate hamlet]

works

[thick valley]

You could go into psykasium and confirm if your crits already kill elite shooters and ragers on weakspot hit

[static needle]

Without crit it doesn't one shot ragers

[fossil snow]

hit it again

[static needle]

?

[thick valley]

Weakspot hit?

[static needle]

Y

Ye

[thick valley]

Does the crit weakspot kill ragers?

[static needle]

Although it might when DD is at 15 stacks

[static needle]

I believe so, gonna check

No

Without DD it doesnt

With DD it likely does @thick valley

At 80% peril I one shot flak ragers tho

With crits

[thick valley]

I feel that rolling one perk may be in your best interest then. However, rolling both blessings is more fun to experiment with over time.

[ornate hamlet]

DD helps a lot with that, yeah

Once you get it rolling, you can do some funnies against ragers

[thick valley]

I feel inspired to try one of these revolvers on my DD build

Except ive always called that keystone “Disrupt Gameplay”

[thick valley]

Is 30 stacks worth it with assail?

[ornate hamlet]

I don't know, but honestly the 30 stacks version is so obnoxious to keep up that I don't really think it'd be worth it anyway

[thick valley]

Agreed, call it “Obnoxious Destiny”

[ionic needle]

Assail -> Shriek -> DD with 30 stacks and you can constantly snipe targets and only use assail 😛

[sinful peak]

look at this baby

[untold verge]

what about it

[snow coral]

i don't know if anyone actually answered you but it's a scoreboard mod

[slate prawn]

what does rending mean?

[runic summit]

yay i did the funny

[near drift]

Rending means your attacks bypass armored enemies damage resist to deal the true amount listed on the weapon. It's partially useful on flak enemies and very useful on carapace enemies.

[static needle]

Do you always wanna use mettle if youre using assail? Im doing a gunpsyker build with old revolver, vent and warp charges. I wonder if the warp charges' toughness regen can offset not using mettle...

[olive ember]

You run perfect timing and mettle because typically when building a gun psyker you build towards the crit chance and such, so you get good procs off mettle and if you use warp based abilities you also get a damage buff to them

well actually

you take both nodes for anything that uses crit and warp based damage

basically

[static needle]

hmm

[olive ember]

since its a 15% dmg buff to warp based attack that procs off crit chance

[static needle]

Is true aim mandatory with old revolver?

i read on the psyker guide that its good because of the ability to just pull the revolver up after engaging a horde in melee to get a garantueed easy crit kill

[olive ember]

true aim?

[olive ember]

I mean nothing is mandatory, but it is useful

because you can stack true aim in melee and then it just means your next shot on the revolver is a guaranteed crit

[static needle]

i feel like without essence harvest, its kinda akward to regen toughness using revolver...

[olive ember]

I almost never run essence harvest so I wouldn't know tbh

[static needle]

i see no reason why it wouldnt be great on a gunpsyker

[potent echo]

True aim is probably optional on revolver since it already has high crit and you are probably running surgical

[static needle]

this tbh

[potent echo]

Unless you really love counting shots and are super optimal

[static needle]

This is what i got rn:

[potent echo]

Revolver builds get toughness via assail

[static needle]

eh

assail isnt hitscan

[potent echo]

Assail wants true aim though

[static needle]

and i dunno if i like having to rely on that to kill elites and such

[potent echo]

You kill trash with assail and soulstealer

[static needle]

do i remove emphatic evasion and soulstealer?

[potent echo]

I prefer assail toughness Regen vs bad confirmed kill lol

[static needle]

oh its bad?

cause its over 5 seconds?

[potent echo]

It's the vet talent but worse

[static needle]

do you like emphatic evasion for revolver?

[potent echo]

Its a bonus and on the way to 5% damage

[static needle]

hmmm i was thinking of ditching quietude so i can reach true aijm

[static needle]

Would you change anything with this?

[potent echo]

Why not

I would ditch warpcharges and go DD

More points that way

Vs puppet master and quell speed lmao

Both aren't that useful here

[static needle]

sadge

[potent echo]

With DD your assail feels good too

Can one tap shooters etc

Or even just go EP and have zero toughness issues

[static needle]

thing is tho, isnt quietude good when using vent? instant 50%+ toughness

[potent echo]

Huh

Vent only vents 50 peril

Quietude only gives half of that right

[static needle]

more if u have a horde in front

[potent echo]

When you vent you don't need toughness either

[static needle]

wait yeah

youre right...

[potent echo]

When you vent means you are already building peril with assail, which means you already getting soulstealer

[static needle]

This the new one:

[kindred ivy]

sibling melk had this, i bough

what do now?

[potent echo]

Yea that's my voidstaff build

[static needle]

nice!

[kindred ivy]

what to chaneg?

chaneegede

[potent echo]

I didn't take assail CD though

[static needle]

CD?

[potent echo]

Took extra toughness instead

Err shorter Regen time

[static needle]

cooldown?

ah

yeah... im just thinking i might need it since revolver cant really fill the downtime in any good way....

[potent echo]

You try EP too honestly

With EP lol

Lmao even

Assail for days

[static needle]

dont wanna assail all the time tho

dont find it very fun

[potent echo]

You use it all the time but quick swap

[static needle]

How much toughness do you want usually?

personally?

[potent echo]

So you throw like 1 every 3 seconds or something

Not spam

I usually go like 160

[static needle]

aimed?

[potent echo]

And 210 hp

[static needle]

ah

i go 140

[potent echo]

Depends

[static needle]

hmm maybe i should do 160 tho

[potent echo]

Usually no because aimed takes too long but if you want to get DD sure

[lethal lagoon]

I would do precog to shred, and specialist to maniac.

[potent echo]

Aimed should kill bruisers

With high DD even fast throw will kill bruiser

[lethal lagoon]

Can also do crit chance to maniac for just all in on those big bois

[static needle]

shred is overrated. If you want better horde capability, do rampage. Works every time

[rocky raven]

swap crit chance > maniac

then either:
a) precog > t4 or swap for shred 4

b)or specialist > unyielding, though i'd do A

[potent echo]

Shred is for boss dps

[static needle]

hmm

[kindred ivy]

huh

[static needle]

thats kinda niche tho

[rocky raven]

precog4 is the best

[kindred ivy]

i'll see

[static needle]

tend to agree. either that or rampage

[potent echo]

That's your only boss damahe as psyker

[lethal lagoon]

IVs best ability involves head poking elites, so "preparing" for hordes is silly unless it's your second mk4 and you just like the sword and wanna use it on a surge or a voidstrike build.

[rocky raven]

not enough cleave to reliably run ramp imo

[static needle]

the thing shreds hordes with rampage tho, funnily enough

[potent echo]

Doubters can just go into psyk and test

[lethal lagoon]

Shreds hordes with shred too lmao

[static needle]

eh idk man my gameplay tells me otherwise

[potent echo]

Your melee is the best DPS for bosses and it's already quite mid

Compared to other classes

[harsh urchin]

idk man based on the questions you ask in discord, my hopes aren't high for your gameplay 😛

[potent echo]

Unless you run ciag gaze then lmao

[static needle]

literally has nothing to do with how I perform but alr

[ornate hamlet]

Didn't they buff the dueling sword's cleave in that weapon rebalance they did?

[unkempt hare]

what are some good perks for surge staff?

[lethal lagoon]

Flak is basically required.

The other can be anything honestly, but top choices are maniac and crit chance.

[potent echo]

Buffed from 3 to 4.5

So you damage around 3 more poxwalkers per swing

[ornate hamlet]

Then it can proc rampage on poxwalkers

[rocky raven]

nexus4 / flurry4 | Damage roll is key for BP's | Flak/ Elites t4 but you may need a few perks in tree to hit the BPs based on the dmg

[unkempt hare]

just got a 4 warp flurry and 4 warp nexus surge staff

[lethal lagoon]

Rampage will be up basically full time swining on horde, anything else ad it's meh.

[potent echo]

It always could but you needed to do the push attack

They just made the lights the same cleave as push attack

[ornate hamlet]

Yeah, that was my miff with it previously

[lethal lagoon]

Start with Flak 25% and 5% crit chance and experiement with other options paired with flak.

[potent echo]

Flak definitely to reach 1 shot on shotgunners

[unkempt hare]

77% damage

[potent echo]

The other perk can be anything

[lethal lagoon]

Unyielding is pretty decent too now that they fixed surge's boss damage, it's definitely noticeable.

[potent echo]

Yea unyielding is fine

[lethal lagoon]

It's nice for when the slugussy is giving your team trouble

[rocky raven]

at 77% test first with the elites DMG aura and without; if you cant hit the 1hko without but do wth, take elites + flak

if you hit it without aura > crit%

[potent echo]

I haven't tested if balls to pimple kills faster than shocks

[lethal lagoon]

it definitely doesn't

Does surprisingly little

[rocky raven]

what to whosa?

[potent echo]

I'll test it one day

[potent echo]

Yea somehow

[lethal lagoon]

There's some weird modifer going on there

But lmb does nothing to the slug weakspot.

[potent echo]

Maybe hitbox issue, but it's hard to tell live in game

Shock is easier and you can be in front of it

And it does decent enough damage

[lethal lagoon]

Shock is risk-free boss damage, so in actual battle you end up doing a pretty decent amount of the boss's health.

There's no aiming, no risk of tunnel vision, front or back doesn't matter, etc.

[rocky raven]

void absolutely can, if you leverage the stagger its putting out

shock is smootbrain boss obv way less involved

more laid back for sure

[lethal lagoon]

How a weapon preforms in perfect condition is largely illrevelant. If you are the last one alive dealing with dozens of elites on top of a boss, you aint staggering shit.

That came out more aggressive than intended

Anyways, it's brain-free boss damage, so you can manage other things going on. Definitely not efficent though.

[unkempt hare]

\

thats it currently

[spice veldt]

the bolt LMB's unyielding damage was shot in the kneecaps by fatshark

this is what big sad looks like

[lethal lagoon]

from 0 to 100 peril lmb does about 5k, rmb about 7k.
Keep in mind going 0-100 peril is a lot faster on rmb.

And lmb requires weakpoints.

You are basically tickling it 😦

[potent echo]

Eh you cant change your staff in game so this isn't that relevant to how surge fights bosses

[potent echo]

Huh

90% nerf

I'm guessing voidstaff RMB doesn't get affected

Unless

[ornate hamlet]

Does the "Shoot fast" penance need to be completed in a single match or multiple?

[gusty geyser]

can someone help me complete the Penance Malleus Monstronum please?

[sullen bobcat]

no

[bleak tulip]

you have to work super hard to get even the same damage as anyone else with it it's usually not worth doing unless you literally have only the boss showing up

they nerfed left click because its powerful and actually reliably to aim at weak spots

for anything but bonbon it's actually better to just stab em

and it probably is for bonbon too I just don't care to do it

[harsh urchin]

Surge trauma left click meta

[tame venture]

hit and run to infernis(3) and weak spot to flak/maniac?

[sullen bobcat]

Can the purgatus staff roll weak spot damage?

I don't even think that thing can even hit a weakspot

[lethal lagoon]

That's the non-meta recon, but yeah.

Infernus and Flak

[tame venture]

i literally bought one from the store, rolled it and it's as good as it gets for me lmao

[tame venture]

which is it then btw? i thought it was the VId but that one got nerfed hard

[lethal lagoon]

Probably still the Vld. Also I don't think the Vld got nerfed hard, Vet's combo with Vld got nerfed hard, unless I'm confused.

[ornate hamlet]

The blue one is supposedly the best because it does much pew-pew and crit strings and stuff

The green one is literal dog shit

The brown one is my favorite because I like slow-firing stuff and it deals competent damage for a recon

[tame venture]

okay so i at least got a decent one

[lethal lagoon]

Vlla is more ammo friendly than Vld, so might actually be better for you depending your playstyle 🤷‍♂️

[harsh urchin]

it got gutted 3 different ways

[tame venture]

it probably will be, that's for my gunker loadout

[harsh urchin]

crit string got nerfed from 5 to 2
shocktrooper got an ICD
base ADM numbers on recon got demolished

[naive sonnet]

what should i swap for crit rate?

[worthy briar]

I dont get brain blast

its like I charge but its not killing the target i select

[naive sonnet]

its not that strong

[sullen bobcat]

Unarmored

[naive sonnet]

feels bad to replace a 25 though ugh

but i guess

[sullen bobcat]

Unarmored increases are useless anyway since unarmored things have incredibly low health

So it's just massive overkill and effectively a wasted perk

[eager mantle]

You won't kill things like mutants, maulers or ogryns with 1 charge.

[surreal magnet]

Do psykers prefer health or toughness curios?

[naive sonnet]

i go 2/3 toughness

[wispy sparrow]

https://i.imgur.com/L8DXxSV.png is this by any means salvageable, i'm a DS IV simp dipping my toes into force swords

i see blessings all over the place for this thing

[analog agate]

It is definitely useable by doing spirit to slaughterer and then one of the perks to maniac

[lethal lagoon]

You could make it into a meme fire sword, but for a normal one, I'd do blazing ->slaughter, Unyielding -> maniac.

[terse monolith]

what is the role of a psyker? Finding it hard to find a comfortable playing style

[broken quail]

Really depends on weapon but melee isn't a good focus. Otherwise killing horde/elites with staff while leaving bosses as secondary targets is what I'd say

[undone marten]

What are peoples thoughts on point blank blessing for agripinaa revolver?

2.5 seconds of 20% crit chance on melee kill?

Does it require you to kill someone with the revolver smack to take effect?

[broken quail]

Too short duration for me. I don't like the agri revolver either since it loads 5 shots in the time the zarona loads 1, yet that zarona shot feels like it has the damage of the 5 agri shots. Also the agri has kinda meh accuracy for headshots

[undone marten]

Mm, yea it's breakpoints are a bit frustrating. Really hard to get a one shot headshot kill on gunners

But I rolled a nice one so I wanted to give it a shot

[dreamy girder]

Point blank is a nice blessing on agri revolver. I just don't see how the gun itself could be of much use on psyker.

[undone marten]

Is fun, and the hope is given its fast nature, with scriers gaze and disrupt destiny, hopefully you get to a one shot headshot on gunners

And the what for hordes, idk yet 🤷

[half iron]

i like me some stub on gunker

[broken quail]

Started running chainsword XIII on psyker since didn't want to keep spamming Illisi special for horde clear. It needs wrath instead of savage sweep since the light attacks can only proc savage sweep against trash like poxwalkers, but wrath gets it to a good cleave and which can then proc rampage

[undone marten]

That's a good idea, thanks

[lethal lagoon]

Glass cannon or CC boi

Can mix the two with Blazing Trauma and Surge/Ep Smite

[fickle swallow]

As a personal opinion, currently psykers have inferior DPS to the other three classes, but excel in CC and support. All four staves plus smite have paramount CC capability. Currently I'm playing a creeping flame surge build which I find to be the most comfy psyker build I've tried. Surge staff combines CC and damage and can deal with hounds, poxbursters and bulwarks especially effectively and safely. Just surge the specials and use creeping flames + Wild Fire talent to clear hordes. And most importantly, you don't even have to aim. Just spam surge to the darkness when you can't see shit

[lethal lagoon]

"Currently psykers have inferior DPS to the other three classes" That's just factually untrue lmao.

[fickle swallow]

That's just how I see it. There's no point in discussing that without statistics. I think currently Ogryns and Vets have the top DPS, Zealots slightly less and Psykers have the least, except gunkers.

[lethal lagoon]

There is some point. What's your usual queue? Auric t5s and Auric Maels?

[sour bison]

Skill issue

[fickle swallow]

Like I said, there's no point arguing on this since there won't be any tangible results without an overall data collection and statistical analysis. Everyone just has their own opinions.

[lethal lagoon]

So.... you don't play auric t5s, or you lose to pubs in auric t5s in damage?

There is a point if you are spouting a bad opinion as fact 🤷‍♂️

[clear heath]

i feel like the ceiling for psyker damage is a decent amount higher than zealots, but zealots are like immortal anyways

[lethal lagoon]

[sour bison]

If 2 ppl saying damage is good and one saying its bad, then statistically your opinion is incorrect

Wow

[lethal lagoon]

Uhhh, to be clear, I am not with this guy ^

[fickle swallow]

Okay I modified my original words to make clear that I'm not stating a fact

[plucky flax]

Psyker has best horde clear in game . It inflates your damage number via chaffs kill.

[lethal lagoon]

You can literally just force push hordes spamming behind your team, contribute nothing of value, and top DPS charts.

[sour bison]

I think that vet is hardest class to play right now

[lethal lagoon]

Plasma vet has joined the chat

[clear heath]

vet isn't hard to play unless you pretend voice of command or plasma builds just don't exist

[sour bison]

Plasma is easiest vet weapon but still

[clear heath]

vet has some broken builds

[idle bay]

Finally a proper winter -27 C outside 🙂

[lethal lagoon]

It's also their strongest weapon atm. Columbus isn't exactly hard to use either.

[rocky raven]

dont forget the morons with ping on click doing literally nothing with the keystone -_-

[clear heath]

that 4% damage buff goes hard man

[sour bison]

Psyker have broken shit too and ogrin and zeal

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah, I know, but that's not the topic at hand lmao

[clear heath]

i'd say the absolute strongest builds on each class are pretty comparable

[sour bison]

Yeah maybe

[clear heath]

idk if we're talking on average or at their peak

[plucky flax]

Owww

[lethal lagoon]

I went from 3 months of constant snow to considering canceling my snow plow service because $150 for 2 plows a year is insane.

[sour bison]

I played everyone except ogrin on aurics and everything is good

[plucky flax]

Strongest build? Surge smite

[lethal lagoon]

My biggest problem with Ogryn is it makes the game too easy for my teammates, so it's harder to get really high up on the scoreboard unless you are kickbacking.

[idle bay]

Thermal underwear and dress in layers and it's fine.

[lethal lagoon]

Can't clutch If I'm keeping everyone alive 😦

[clear heath]

a decent kickback ogryn just destroys everyone in scoreboard

[lethal lagoon]

a kickback just destroys everyone in scoreboard

[clear heath]

i've seen some very bad ogryns though

[sour bison]

Just destroys everyone

[lethal lagoon]

You can trigger the quotes for "you killed a lot" with 1 kickback shot into a horde

[sour bison]

[quasi grotto]

Psyker with bad dps lol
https://youtu.be/yk3r1ejk5PQ?si=qqhmP4fbAR3aj7mK

[plucky flax]

[clear heath]

wow i wonder who that is

[quasi grotto]

[sour bison]

Back to the topic, psyker have good build variety and everything at least is good enough

[lethal lagoon]

There's literally a terrible trauma build in the Builds section that got 1 million damage. Psyker might be the highest DPS atm lmao.

[plucky flax]

That guy is really bad, it was luck for sure.

[sour bison]

If you cant deal good damage with psyker it is skill issue. Change my mind

[plucky flax]

I wouldn't call it terrible but no perfect timing on crit weapon is sus.

[quasi grotto]

Or a staff issue if you haven't rolled the key blessings yet

[lethal lagoon]

No perfect timing, no CDR on elite kill cause assail. BM.

[plucky flax]

Assail blaze trauma

[rocky raven]

https://tenor.com/view/shame-go-t-game-of-thrones-walk-of-shame-shameful-gif-4949558

[lethal lagoon]

Blaze trauma might be a little too overtunned, good thing it's pretty rare lmao

And here I was hoping for tier 4 blazing spirit 😦

[plucky flax]

It destroys my wrist. Its simply too powerful.

[half iron]

hadron hates those who want blessings

[sour bison]

i've spend mounth worth of farming to get blazing 4

[plucky flax]

I play surge for comfort.

[lethal lagoon]

[rocky raven]

ikr

[lethal lagoon]

How is Ogryn the only class you haven't played, denying your destiny?

[fickle swallow]

If you can't deal "good" damage with any classit's skill issue

[rocky raven]

i borrowed the gf's drawpad to use the stylus one game for the hell of it.....didnt hate it XD

[sour bison]

that was toxic

im proud

[plucky flax]

Smart idea.

[sour bison]

i just dont want to play ogryn honestly

[lethal lagoon]

You aren't the first person who rolled for blazing 4 that I made fun of missing their true class

[sour bison]

mb at some point i will

[plucky flax]

I'm thinking those weird mouse you can move with your thumb is doable with trauma.

[lethal lagoon]

Wait, It was you I made fun of before

Did you change your name?

[ornate hamlet]

disrupting, even

[lethal lagoon]

Or profile picture?

[lethal lagoon]

My eyes just get tired aiming trauma, I need some GAMER glasses.

[mighty fractal]

The only thing Trauma doesn’t really ‘do’ is boss damage

[rocky raven]

yea it was one of these, 2 buttons on stylus/press down point bound to charge 😛

[sour bison]

yeah maybe

[plucky flax]

Eyes and wrist.

[mighty fractal]

Or long range rager/gunner deletion, of course

But that’s what Voidstrike is for

[lethal lagoon]

Play controller 🙂

[plucky flax]

I'd love to see a decent guy playing trauma on controller. It'd look so slow and bad.

[potent echo]

I don't understand this trauma flick thing

[sour bison]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DR5vP5O55Q8

[potent echo]

I just aim with the bottom of my screen

[plucky flax]

It does very well against bonbon!!

[plucky flax]

Same. Imagine trying to be cool with weird flicks. Couldn't be me

[tame venture]

i thought it was the thing to take to twins?

[quasi grotto]

More for clearing all the elites and hordes than boss damage I think

[tame venture]

i still haven't beaten them in damnation or hard mode lol

[quasi grotto]

Trauma does a good job of knocking around all the crushers and maulers and ragers that spawn

[plucky flax]

Horde clear and cc. Use knife or ds4 on boss with uncanny.

[tame venture]

i learned that you can use the devil claw counter on the lady and do decently

but idk if that holds up at high levels

[compact cargo]

Psyker not needed

replace with full ogryn

[lethal lagoon]

I feel like multiple Ogryn is like "Too many cooks" Each added Ogryn is less effective.

Psykers it's kind of the opposite.

[tame venture]

https://tenor.com/view/ogryn-party-gif-27273801

[half iron]

please don’t be raw

[mighty fractal]

I was more referring to damage vs Monsters, but yeah, Trauma is good for Twins because it lets you CC/kill the massive elite swarms that spawn

[outer vessel]

I think this is salvageable

That uncanny is nice, and I think 20% cara is ok

meh mobility, but all the other stats are good

Can't decide if more crit chance, weakspot or another faction % is better

[queen fog]

ollo witch chat i come bearing 2nd hand knowledge from a fellow witch

u can use BB to get this penace, just got mine on a haz 3

[outer vessel]

Also can't say if unstable is better than precognition or riposte, both are t4

[distant roost]

precog is generally a very good blessing to pair with Uncanny

[vestal fulcrum]

Slaughterer or Unstable are better fits IMO

[outer vessel]

ye, i was thinking it's a solid pick

[distant roost]

Crit chance is eh, weakspot is bad, +25% is great

[vestal fulcrum]

Maybe Deflector also, but I don't like it/don't take it ever

[outer vessel]

Deflector is a whatever blessing

i don't care if I do or don't have it

[distant roost]

Either way you have two things you are swapping so

[outer vessel]

Maniac seems best here

[distant roost]

Personally Id swap Cara

[vestal fulcrum]

You definitely dont' want to have Crit chance or WS perks, though

[distant roost]

Yea weakspot perk math is hilariously bad

[outer vessel]

it'd be good to just one tap specials or ragers that get too close

[distant roost]

You net like 2 damage more

[vestal fulcrum]

Maniac is good for ensuring you hit 1 shot weak spot hits with H2 against Mutants, with some additional damage enablers (say, Warp charges, or Warp Rider skill)

[distant roost]

Rule of thumb for perks is

Flak/Maniac/Unyielding/Elite/Cara

those are all good

[outer vessel]

Obviously

[distant roost]

Cara i only take if it meets a breakpoint

[outer vessel]

cara is just good on melee because of crushers

maniac covers a wide array of priority targets

flak is good, niche benefit being good against bosses with overshields (karnak twins)

[distant roost]

theres some fun breakpoints

tbh

take flak over cara

its all preference

But Flak or Maniac seems best

Cara wont impact your breakpoint enough

[vestal fulcrum]

Flak doesn't really matter, you don't want to be using too much of your special anyway

Unyielding and Maniac is what is usually recommended IIRC

Maybe Maniac and Specials if you don't hit the 1sws breakpoint with H2 against mutants with one's modifiers, but it's not really optimal

[outer vessel]

Hmm, maybe I'll stick with t3 unstable

I do get high peril pretty often with this playstyle

[austere warren]

How does bb feel with empowered psionics?

Can anyone vouch for it? Mostly doing a peril build that takes warp nexus and the peril scaling perks for payker. Not 30 yet but it's fun so far.

[vale creek]

whats that calc?

[potent echo]

In my BB loadouts I usually take warp siphon

To pair with venting shriek

When you use BB in ambient/ranged engagements, faster BB doesn't have that much value

[sage musk]

https://dt.wartide.net/calc

[vale creek]

thanks

[outer vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-mr-krabs-ring-the-bell-ringing-bell-gif-16270849

give it up for number 90, number 90

90 staves with the exact same rolls for blessings

I have never seen this piece of shit roll surge or nexus

[plucky flax]

I hate silent trappers shooting through a bunch of crushers.

[outer vessel]

#SPIDERSENSEMOD

[gloomy magnet]

nah im not a spiderman

[bold flint]

fighting karnak twins is hard when ive revived the entire team like 3 times over from death and they still fumble the bag

[idle bay]

Today i was able to intercept stealth (no ticking on approach) Pox Buster. It was just one tick 2m away from me but it was enough 🙂

[plucky flax]

Btw I found out why my surge vfx was borked. It was weapon customisation mod.

That mod gives me bad frames and keeps breaking stuff.

[idle bay]

Payment for ability of weapon customization 🙂

[plucky flax]

It's FartShart's counter measure against customisation.

"Don't buy our premimum skins? Have this bad frames."

:p

[idle bay]

"premium"

poorly made recolours

Where are Valhallan or Vostroyan themed uniforms?

Or Mordian themed?

Character are too distrophic for Catachan outfits though... Save for Ogryn he is about the right size of average catachan

[plucky flax]

Yeah the recolours stuff are so greedy.

Like bruh you change a colour and charge 1400 aquila.

[vestal fulcrum]

Change colour scheme of Ogryn 800 Aq set and add a helmet - that will be 2400 Aq

[plucky flax]

Tbh set used to be good at launch. 3 armour pieces, weapon, trinket.

Now it's 3 shitty armours and nothing else.

Same, if not more expensive because it's 'extra' work for them.

[vestal fulcrum]

It's not really extra work

[plucky flax]

Yeah they are just greedy bastards.

[vestal fulcrum]

It's either causing them losses re: sales

Because say, people don't want to buy a set that has a weapon skin that may make the set appear less valuable than it is, and it's not a weapon skin that they like/can use for the weapons they have

Or them just noticing they don't make extra profit by including these things in the bundles

So why include them

People will buy them even as singular elements, regardless

[plucky flax]

I know gaming is a business but they really have no hearts. At least the top dogs who make the decisions anyway.

I'm sure the lower guys whom actually make the game care about the players.

[ornate hamlet]

it's the ultimate issue of having to bow down to investors

and honestly while people scapegoat Tencent a lot
It's probably much simpler than that

Their investors just want far more money and saw how other games ( like CoD ) monetized their stuff, so why not theirs too

[mighty fractal]

That's usually how it goes in the games industry (or in any industry, honestly)

Someone sees a bigger company do thing that makes big money

they point and say, "Replicate that, please"

[ornate hamlet]

yeahp

Tencent is just the easy scapegoat because they have tons of shitty practices

[mighty fractal]

It's a lot less nefarious than it seems and more just shortsighted/ignorant of the fact that not every monetization model is going to work for every game

yeah basically

[ornate hamlet]

but it's far liklier that the upper management at Fatshark saw people buying skins

and went "well maybe we can push the envelope a bit more"

[mighty fractal]

Aye

[ornate hamlet]

What mainly sucks is that VT2 had a pretty fair monetization scheme for their dlcs ( after WoM ) and even the cosmetics after

[mighty fractal]

I wonder how much a GWS license costs now

for 40k specifically

[ornate hamlet]

probably not as expensive as it seems, but still a pretty penny
I know Owlcat ( from their Rogue Trader stuff ) had their ingame content dictated by GW

which is funny because GW is okay with you banging an Eldar and a Drukhari, but not a Sister of Battle or a Space Wolf

[mighty fractal]

They're probably a lot more protective of the Imperium as a whole and want tight limits on what other companies can do with it, creatively

since it's the forward-facing faction that most people will interact with

[ornate hamlet]

ye
Imperium (Space Marines specifically ) probably the bulk of their fans

and Sororitas / Space Marines are the poster boys of 40k too

[mighty fractal]

I mean hell, I remember Hedge saying that FS had to convince GWS to let Warrior Priest Saltz use a flail

They wouldn't let WP use a flail alone (probably because solo flails/2h flails are a Flagellant thing in WHFB and not a WP thing)

but they compromised with a shield-and-flail

And I'm okay with that, because shield-and-flail is cool (and I hope we get it in this game too)

[ornate hamlet]

yup

Which is funny since in hindsight GW was mostly done with WHF

[mighty fractal]

And all that work was for WHFB, too, which GWS is much more lenient with

Yeah lol

[ornate hamlet]

but I guess Total War Warhammer brought back a lot of love for it

I heard news they're restarting some lines of production on it back

[mighty fractal]

"Maybe we shouldn't have killed this setting off..."

Yeah my guess is that's also for the Old World reboot

since people will want to use their old armies in Old World

and Old World isn't going to feature new content for a lot of favorite factions on launch

iirc they said Skaven, Dwarfs, and a few others aren't getting new minis initially. They touched on it in one of their dev blogs (e.g., Skaven are too busy fighting each other during the time period of Old World to have a mainstage presence)

[ornate hamlet]

interesting

[plucky flax]

Yes. The ability to earn premium currency weekly was really good.

[ornate hamlet]

and even the paid cosmetics were pretty fair too

[vestal fulcrum]

What, the shillings?

[ornate hamlet]

They looked nice, they were very different, and they were in flat money, and not through the aquila conversion

[plucky flax]

Yeah.

[mighty fractal]

Monopoly Money (Aquilas) are probably the worst thing about the current shop

[vestal fulcrum]

I wouldn't really call that a premium currency

[plucky flax]

Tru I guess.

[vestal fulcrum]

It's just an in-game currency, which intention was to be spent on low-effort cosmetics they couldn't release in any other way without bloating the loot pool of Commendation chests

[plucky flax]

DT don't even have any cosmetics.

[vestal fulcrum]

We have the commissary

[plucky flax]

It's like 3 sets, then all recolours.

[vestal fulcrum]

Which is just a worse Emporium of Lohner's from VT2

[plucky flax]

Exactly. Xd

Weapon skins? Here's some red paint and blue paint.

Enjoy your weapon skins.

[vestal fulcrum]

The red/blue skins haven't even had their variants match up with the original weapon frame

It's just weapon frames with skins, like, random weapon frames

Like the Thunder hammer, which isn't even in the game yet

[simple ingot]

It's horrendously cheap

[vestal fulcrum]

My main problem with it is... you have to spend Ordo dockets for these things

Which is shared for purchasing items @ Brunt's

and that's already an unhealthy relationship, in which I don't want to be

[plucky flax]

I want to tear Brunt and Hadron apart, put their remnants in a pod and expel it.

Toward the sun.

[gloomy magnet]

sun is too far from Mobien system

[vestal fulcrum]

Just give them to the heretics. They will stitch them back up, mutate them horribly and allow us to kill them again.

[plucky flax]

What do you mean every solar system has a sun.

[gloomy magnet]

oh i thought 'sun' denotes sun of terra

[plucky flax]

Mfw I spent 300k on brunt and don't even have 1 worthy weapon to go to the next RNG cycle with hadron.

[gloomy magnet]

"darktide looks like a very cool game, how's its endgame?"
endgame:

[idle bay]

Endgame: chatting peacfully in Discord about Darktide

[dull osprey]

perks for trauma staff?

crit+double shot? crit+charge time?

or blazing+crit?

[vestal fulcrum]

Surge aka “Double shot” doesn’t work on Trauma’s secondary fire

Blazing + Nexus is a good blessing combination

[flint plover]

terra/earth's sun is typically Sol

[near wyvern]

I gotta admit this is the correct answer.

[near wyvern]

Depends what you are after, check The Psyker Atheneum

[hard widget]

I don't have a psyker

I'm too scared of all the blessings I have to collect for psykers only

And the skill tree is scary too

Emperor give me strength to level a psyker finally

[dull osprey]

good news for u

syker talents doesnt really matter its mostly on what weapons u bring

sure talent and talent matters but this is the class where u can still get value from bad/wrong talents

on the other weapons do suck for syker yes cuz imo they have the biggest difference between weapons and weapons

[vestal fulcrum]

Psykers have the most straightforward skill tree (which is not a good/healthy thing for it, lol)

There's barely any options. You take key things for the build and there's very little wiggle room for decision making

[worn cypress]

not gonna be a problem if you go gunker

[tawdry pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-shaking-head-gif-21797829

[olive tendon]

worth investing into?

[untold widget]

yeah

hope hardon doesn't brick it

[olive tendon]

fingers crossed

will post shortly

[vestal fulcrum]

Suuure, give it a try

[olive tendon]

Thoughts

[vestal fulcrum]

swap groaner perk

And then either keep or swap Transfer Peril

And it's an OK Void

But there's more options

[hoary badge]

I'd swap flurry for surge

[vestal fulcrum]

It's just what I would do

[sullen bobcat]

Transfer peril and warp flurry is a fun combo for mass headshot clearing

It isn't the meta surge though

Maniac damage is good though

[gusty furnace]

could potentially be worth something?

Left: Milk

Right: owned

also, every time I brick a weapon I get mad I'm not playing Escape From Tarkov

[static needle]

I do think that since the staves and blitz's exist, psyker does have the greatest variation and difference of playstyles. You can play psyker in more different ways than you can with the other classes, whose gameplay loops are largely similar compared to psyker's options.

[gusty furnace]

God, Fatshark. Just fucking let me make the things I wanna make.

Make it prohibitively expensive, I do not give one iota of a shit. I'm just tired of bricking things at hadron because you can't come up with something that isn't rng hell

[vestal fulcrum]

Maniac fell out of favour for Flak and Elites being the top picks for perks

But it's not a bad Surge

[gusty furnace]

i'd be gamba on second blessing

to replace both perks. I'm well aware

[vestal fulcrum]

Worst case scenario

You get Hit & Run

[gusty furnace]

whatever, I'll buy it

and go brick it

fatshark hates this game anyway

[vestal fulcrum]

The gameplay variety I don't mind, it's OK. I mind that the skill tree is extremely uninteresting to experiment with.

[gusty furnace]

uh

classic

[vestal fulcrum]

And also Scrier's Gaze is kind of peepeepoopoo

[gusty furnace]

oh well

[gusty furnace]

@digital narwhal

We have a hater

[vestal fulcrum]

[gusty furnace]

we need the sauce to prove why this isn't true

[digital narwhal]

DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE

[vestal fulcrum]

FITE ME

I do believe Scrier's Gaze is one-dimensional though, and it does not support a big variety of playstyles

[gusty furnace]

i mean

its the gunker ult

[vestal fulcrum]

I don't see the appeal for it over, say, Creeping Shriek

[gusty furnace]

it doesn't need to do everything

[analog agate]

Wait, is this my build? I don’t use the right side because I barely use assail. It is just for the odd bomber/sniper kill or I spam it for spread out gunners. I only use trauma/ds. I was using bb but found I just didn’t use it a lot and was so slow. Only thing I’m missing out on the left tree is psykinetic’s aura for the team. I only use shriek for big hordes or emergency cases so don’t use my “F” ability a lot. And I have found assail is better at BBing more than BB itself, even with animation canceling. My BB build is about the same as beingwar's. Just found assail has more use than BB 🤷‍♂️

[gusty furnace]

it makes gunker good

[vestal fulcrum]

Gunker can also take Shriek and have swarm clear

[gusty furnace]

that's uh

what swords are for?

[vestal fulcrum]

So... it's not like you are obligated to take Scrier

Scrier only gives you a lot of potential burst

[gusty furnace]

especially with the new force sword damage profiles

its not particularly hard to take care of poxwalkers and groaners with em

[vestal fulcrum]

But you can literally sneeze at them and they die

It's easier to sneeze at a wave and go about your day

[gusty furnace]

wow I really fucked up my monitor settings though

thanks tarkov

That out of the way, gunker with scrier's is fine

great ult, one dimensional, not a huge deal

I guess that's just me being an ogryn main though

[vestal fulcrum]

Unfortunate that is. At least you can have a Maniac Surge "just in case" there is a compelling argument to run it over Flak/Elite/Crit chance

[gusty furnace]

Eh

I already dumpstered it

[gusty furnace]

Point Blank Barrage is probably the most one-dimensional ult in darktide atm

and I'm fine with that

Totally cool having an ult that's "Stubber Only"

[vestal fulcrum]

I suppose my problem with Scrier's is that it's similar to PBB, but without having the things that make PBB good

[gusty furnace]

rippers need help in other ways, slightly more damage/accuracy/ammo

[vestal fulcrum]

i.e., toughness tanking, burst against bosses or elites, and you have to STACK Scrier's to get the benefit to its fullest potential

Ogryn just presses F and magdumps

[gusty furnace]

psyker gets uh

better toughness tanking

on gunker, FWIW

since you get 5% back per crit

and a colomnus IAG can reach near 100% crit rate on gunker

so you get 55x5 toughness per magazine

[vestal fulcrum]

God I hate crit strings

[vestal fulcrum]

Without Ogryn's 71% TDR, I find it really hard to call anything "better" than that.

[gusty furnace]

That's a different argument though.

That's not PBB doing the work.

That's Ogryn's passive TDR doing the work.

[willow escarp]

Illisi with scriers gaze and exorcist is funny

[vestal fulcrum]

No, but PBB is just another way to make it work

[fierce kindle]

Ngl scriers gaze is OP af

Able to basically one shot specials on damnation with it

[hoary badge]

it one shots me as well when I'm trying to meme on staves

[tawdry pasture]

The Psyker still moves slow as all dick

why did I main this

Even ogryns outrun us

[vestal fulcrum]

You need better cardio

i.e., Stamina curio helps a lot

[tawdry pasture]

That’s longevity over immediacy

[hoary badge]

rapier/deimos crabwalk is still viable in its diminished state

[tawdry pasture]

I guess it wouldn’t be fair somehow

No playing like cod zombies

[bleak tulip]

dick issue

[ionic sorrel]

Are you using a dagger? Going the right side, I feel like the fastest person in the game.

[tawdry pasture]

[zinc phoenix]

I personally like to SG with a deflector Deimos for the Jedi experience 😂

[tawdry pasture]

I guess it’s what I already knew which is having to go scriers gaze

I pfft

[zinc phoenix]

You can also just be slow and accept it

The mind may be incomparable but the body is flabby and needs breathing tubes

[tawdry pasture]

Series of tubes

I guess I’ll see what the fuss is all about then be like “I became a watered down zealot”

[tacit sky]

Hey gang. Tips with builds to get the most power out of Brain Burst??

[harsh grove]

Empowered Psionics and Kinetic Resonance talents make a big difference imo

if you take Overpowering Souls, then you get an EP charge effectively refunded when you brain burst an elite

[tacit sky]

Yes, using both of those. Thank you for the reply

[harsh grove]

between psionics and resonance, peril generation from BB is quite low so you don't have to worry about it

[tacit sky]

I also use Overpowering souls

That’s my current build

[tawdry pasture]

Dome shield is so goated

[tacit sky]

With Surge & Illisi

Yes

Especially on damnation and Auric

[harsh grove]

seemsgood to me. i have something similar but i run Gaze instead of Dome Shield

i also use the revolver on that loadout to snipe specials fast and get Empowered Psionics rolling

[tacit sky]

Used to run gaze but I feel the shield protects me and the team a bit more

Feels wasted when running with a good squad though

[harsh grove]

yeah totally up to you

[tawdry pasture]

Dome shield results in positive tram feedback

[tacit sky]

No staff!

Haha

[tawdry pasture]

Team*

[tacit sky]

Sacrilege

[harsh grove]

gun psyker is psychotic and i love it

[tacit sky]

I have a gun build but using Sciers Gaze

Steal all the ammo from the Veterans 👀

[harsh grove]

they can share

[tawdry pasture]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner's_dilemma bros..

[north cradle]

What gun do you use

I'm a Kantrael Mk I enjoyer on Gun Psyker myself

[harsh grove]

for my brain burst setup, revolver

[north cradle]

Fast enough to shoot down shooters, not so powerful that it overlaps too hard with Brain Burst

[ionic sorrel]

You can go with the crit speed boost and disrupt destiny. Also, the 5% move speed.

[harsh grove]

yeah it definitely overlaps with BB, but man i do love killing specials

[north cradle]

Same

[tawdry pasture]

I will give this a try and see if I can get some passive speed going, thank you

[harsh grove]

i have another loadout that's assail + Gaze + Disrupt Destiny and i take the laspistol on that

if you like going fast, DD provides a burst of speed when you proc it

very fun

[north cradle]

I don't have pics of post-Hadron, but this is what I'm running on my gun psyker

[harsh grove]

[north cradle]

Just swap Opening Salvo with Headhunter and Ranged Elites with Flak

[harsh grove]

does it boss well too?

[north cradle]

Beast, yes. Anything else, not really. I'm not that good at hitting moving heads, especially when they're barreling towards me

[ionic sorrel]

And again, take the dagger, sprint while holding in left mouse.

[harsh grove]

dagger is secretly OP on psyker

you can spam that push attack and use Kinetic Deflection for blocking

[north cradle]

I miss Brain Lacerations. I'm not good at killing bosses, but another 15% damage for the hammer Zealot wouldn't be a bad idea

[tawdry pasture]

Appreciate it, I’ve been latching to kinetic deflector (sword and tree traits) for the tank potential and penances still

[hoary badge]

I'd recommend saving a point from Kinetic Flayer with your loadout and shifting it to Battle Meditation or Kinetic Deflection

[harsh grove]

agreed on that, i've been skipping Flayer

if the internal cooldown was shorter it would be good for bossing

[devout robin]

agreed

[hoary badge]

Flayer's best use case is for fast firing gunpsyker builds since you need it to proc on priority targets rather than some random zomboy

[harsh grove]

yeah like the off chance your bullet hits a rager in the pack and you smoke him

[north cradle]

Hell yeah

[tawdry pasture]

Nearly got the 1k damage taken penance on a demonhost

984

Sweaty azz fight

[digital narwhal]

Pardon?

Bro's playing Psyker wrong

[tawdry pasture]

spamming block and dodge without throwing for a solid minute is fun

[devout robin]

duelling sword

[digital narwhal]

Also, why use "Even Ogryns" when Ogryns are the fastest Class in terms of base speed?

They have the highest total stamina, and are tied with Zealot for fastest out of stam sprint speed.

But due the higher stamina, it means Ogryns to where they need to be faster.

[tawdry pasture]

They’re also obese men

[digital narwhal]

So

[digital narwhal]

[devout robin]

they are hardly obese

they are fucking BUILT

[digital narwhal]

Ogryns are genuinely pure muscle

[tawdry pasture]

I mean no disrespect

[devout robin]

i getcha

[tawdry pasture]

This is medical

[devout robin]

but there's a meaningful difference

[queen fog]

It’s bothum

It’s a ogryn

Fat and muscle go hand and hand

[tawdry pasture]

like those lifting competition guys

“All muscle”

The doctor: your fat

[queen fog]

You never notice how strong sumo guys are?

Like those guys are huge and they still got more core than a lot of lads it’s nuts

[queen fog]

I’m complimenting sumo why is ur corpse starch offended

[tawdry pasture]

unrelated

[queen fog]

But, fat

Sumos got em too

[tawdry pasture]

May their fat one day go into a medical waste bin

[queen fog]

But then how are they gonna do shit like this

https://tenor.com/view/shimmy-sumo-dancing-gif-5421002

With no fat

[tawdry pasture]

Sumo after losing the weight

sad sumo

🍊

[hearty oak]

Another few staffs go into the trash for not being what i need

[unkempt hare]

i feel that

[hearty oak]

Why cant the devs just make it so you can guarantee 2/4s of what you want on a weapon are what you need just cost extra dimantine or something. Varying degrees of what they are will remain

[queen fog]

Because then we’d all have the best weapons we want and there would be no grind

No fishing for the best when u already got the best

[hearty oak]

this grind is just as tedious and boring

[queen fog]

There’s worse out there friend no worries

If u ever dabble in Warframe I’ll pray for u

Got a copious amount of hours myself and u described it in 2 words

[tacit sky]

The cooldown is your issue with Flayer I imagine?

Thanks btw

[hearty oak]

Did but then quit it after they were bought out

among other fiascos

[queen fog]

Dipped when they wanted more money, eh fair

I couldn’t give a rats ass bout who owns it as long as the content is still content

New update been tickling that for me for a bit, diff tilesets n enemies feel nice

Not that I’m tryna persuade for u to come back just saying how I feel bout it

[hoary badge]

I don't dislike it, but on a numbers standpoint you don't get too much value since you'll be spending a lot more procs on chaff than priority targets

[zinc phoenix]

Obesefish could make the current system more flexible while keeping the stat rolling aspect

I don’t personally care about the power level of weapons but there are fun blessing combos I will never get to try because the rng is too damn high

[queen fog]

Yeep some lads never get to taste the surprising effectiveness of run n gun flame staff

Or a decent warp flurry

Hadron just destined to brick/bamboozle ur plasteel

[hearty oak]

I dipped when they removed raids too, adding more gacha mechanics. Just all terrible

[queen fog]

lol that’s all there is now, granted community market can help with some of the stuff

But of course there’s always untradable things

[hearty oak]

I will never get my unusally large kubrow back

(This was before you could save genetic keys)

[sterile lake]

what are the two meta blessings for void staff

the one that releases peril on weakpoint and the one that reduces charge time for secondary every secondary?

[distant roost]

Surge is a common choice

[dreamy girder]

Warp Nexus. Then Warp Flurry or Surge

[distant roost]

having two funny force balls that have infinite cleave is sorta nutty 💀

[vestal fulcrum]

Void balls definitely do not have infinite cleave

[hearty oak]

flurry with nexus for consistency, surge for the big rng damage that just turns into overkill damage

[sterile lake]

so i basically changed blessings around just to be wrong

ok

thank you for your answers 😄

the one i use works on t4 though

i need to try out more but i need to grind way more for that

[tawdry pasture]

||having two funny force|| balls ||that|| ||have infinite|| cleave ||is sorta|| nutty 💀

[north cradle]

Things on the Mourningstar according to Loose Cannon, Hadron, and Brawler

[distant roost]

They’ll penetrate any non-elite to an insane extent but you are correct in saying they have a target limit in a sense

As like I think it can kill like

6 or so poxwalkers? And the rest get staggered

That’s from memory tho

[vestal fulcrum]

It seems about correct

[north cradle]

It do be correct

[spice veldt]

if they haven't fixed it, it'll be 12 cleave

the patch notes say 10 but it had 12 cleave in patch 13/14

[green crest]

How do I know if a weapon is good like its base rating? (lvl30)

[untold widget]

365+ base rating is good for most things, although lower rating weapons can still be viable if the stats are still weighted correctly

if everything is high 70s to 80 and the mobility is 12%? That's a great weapon usually.

[fresh panther]

Give it a good sniff

[untold widget]

generally good to figure out which stat is dumpable to keep a lower tier weapon viable, usually mobility/defense

[summer prairie]

It looks like it had 10 cleave and still does. The calc may have had wrong cleave. It did cleave way more for a while when poxwalkers were still 1 mass

[green crest]

and what like i forgot the name bonuses and other thing that u put on a weapon

[spice veldt]

perks and blessings?

stuff that gives damage is usually good

power% = damage, cleave, and stagger altogether,
so 10% power = +10% damage, +10% cleave, and +10% stagger

rending% is another good thing to have

the other stuff is some utility stuff that you might have to justify into your playstyle

[green crest]

Is there any site or something about this

[spice veldt]

stuff like Exorcist (quell on repeated weakspot hit) and so on

there's gameslantern with user-created guides, but those may be of questionable quality

there's pygex's guide in the pinned messages, but i haven't checked how complete it is

[green crest]

I don’t see that

[spice veldt]

oh right derpy was the one who posted it

the atheneum https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959

[silk hawk]

and he was using smite.... the guy rly hates hordes XDDD

[green crest]

That is quite long ☠️

[jolly raptor]

i'm the big boss around here

demon

so watch your step

[green crest]

What happens if I step on u

[silk hawk]

he ask for more i guess

XD

[jolly raptor]

im gonna drag you to the deep ocean

[green crest]

I like the ocean though

[jolly raptor]

not with me

and not in deep waters

[green crest]

Why what will u do

[jolly raptor]

i gonna ride you like my horse and im gonna show you the deep ocean is not for you

and go home

[green crest]

What if I told u I have some fish that will bite u

[hearty dagger]

378 VS
Got it to blue
Blazing Spirit 3 and sprint efficiency

I want to die

[stone canyon]

These psyker penances are so annoying, warp battery now, 300s keeping maxed

[tawny pebble]

O wise ones

which of these perks do i swap, for what

is flak armoured any good on purg?

[analog agate]

unarmored

[tawny pebble]

what's the best replacement? i've seen some swear by further boosting crit chance (as much as idk how much that helps with Nexus) while others say go unyielding

[hasty breach]

i think either is fine but crit is useful against everything and applies more burn stacks

and you can change it later once you tinker with it

[analog agate]

I actually do unyielding as my 2nd perk

someone a while ago showed the math that crit chance isn't worth it for purg

better for the 25% on a specific type of enemy

[tawny pebble]

i do like number crunch

is wildfire still no good?

in terms of stacks distribution

[harsh grove]

unyielding on flame staff stops applying if you pull out your melee or blitz

[tawny pebble]

ah, as in the damage boost falls off?

[harsh grove]

yeah exactly

[sage horizon]

Would Surge on a trauma staff be worth it?

[tawny pebble]

I presume that applies to any enemy-specific damage boost

[harsh grove]

yeah exactly

the secret tech for bossing with flame staff is actually to put the +unyielding on your melee

so your burn stacks benefit from +unyielding while you are swinging

[tawny pebble]

that is quite smart

[tawny pebble]

if they fixed it not working, yes

[harsh grove]

maybe 🤔 if you're hitting horde with the trauma staff, does the first blast knock enemies out of the second one?

oh lol does surge straight up not work

[harsh urchin]

@spice veldt i need to escape from #veteran-class

it's causing brain rot

I can't tell if people genuinely believe surv is fine

or if they only play like heresy

how are u today

[spice veldt]

prob people who only play vet or something

[tawny pebble]

awhile ago it didn't

[spice veldt]

the horrors of my ammo economy as gunker without a survivalist vet

i just wanna shoot guns without caring if i have a survivalist vet on my team or not

[tawny pebble]

it's been a good bit since the bug was reported but idk if it was ever fixed

never had the luck to ever pick up the Surge blessing on any staff

so i was never able to test it

[open pike]

I remember when one of the mods said the most they ever have to ban/warn people is after updates where they change something blatantly broken on veteran

[spice veldt]

the days of the psword nerfs 😔

[harsh urchin]

"psword unuseable"

[spice veldt]

people are just so resistant to change and for no particular reason

[tawny pebble]

lol, i'm like 2 months old on this game

[harsh urchin]

etcetc

[tawny pebble]

what happened to power swords

[spice veldt]

soooo

they used to have infinite cleave

[tawny pebble]

LMAO

[spice veldt]

and power cycler used to give you 7 swings (you had 3 activated swings by default)

and i'm actually not exaggerating with "infinite" cleave

they genuinely had infinite cleave before they nerfed it down to ~10 cleave (depending on your cleave targets stat modifier)

[harsh urchin]

tbh I'd be happy

if they just kept it with the "sharpshooter theme"

and made it so weakspot headshot weapons could just get infinite ammo

and it didnt give infinite ammo to the entire team

[spice veldt]

there was also like this noticeable increase in negative steam reviews after the patch with the psword nerfs (mainly the power cycler nerf one)

yeah, just personal regen on a condition tied to weakspot kills

on consecutive weakspot kills to ranged enemies or elites/specials or something

[harsh urchin]

yeah and if you had a revolver psyker or a hh autogun zealot

they could also benefit from it

[spice veldt]

something that engages and rewards you meaningfully

[harsh urchin]

but if they had like a flamer or something

they wouldn't get infinite ammo

etc

[spice veldt]

p much

or kickback ogryn

[tawny pebble]

(angry zealot noises in background)

[spice veldt]

well, i'm fine with vet only having the ammo regen talents

[harsh urchin]

agreed lol

[spice veldt]

and psyker/ogryn/zealot can have their fun with buffed ammo pickups

and taking survivalist down a notch and buffing ammo pickups also fixes the problem of survivalist being disproportionately better than the other two

[lunar hollow]

zealot already basically gets its own mini-survivalist with tknives

[spice veldt]

fairly meaningful problems that we fix

[spice veldt]

go away crazy man