psyker-class

[sturdy radish]

what blessings do i want in an illisi mk v sword?

[thorn cedar]

Do you get your ass kicked by elites or is it specials that catch you

[raven basin]

oh fk, then this staff is actually perfect then holy hell

just need the crit blessing

[outer vessel]

Probably whatever helps with horde density and ragers

[raven basin]

ive put off from using it cause i didnt like the crit chance

[outer vessel]

So cleave, damage, peril reduction to combo your blitz abilities frequently

[lethal lagoon]

I find flurry kinda useless on purg, it's so rare I'm just blazing away

[outer vessel]

It does good armored damage too, so, there could be something to help with that as well

[lethal lagoon]

It's also funny to find random units cowering for no reason.

[strong gulch]

damage is slaughter + uncanny strikes

defense is slaughter + deflector

Those are the meta options, but some others can work too. Slaughters is the anchor.

[sturdy radish]

ty

[final bison]

I thought it was the contrary???!

[strong gulch]

Depends on how you play tbh.

[rose dagger]

Flurry/nexus was generally preferred when last I used it

[outer vessel]

The same ones that randomly cancel their suppress animation to hit you with a really rude and cheap running attack

[lethal lagoon]

Flurry is considered "meta", but usually by the time I have max stacks I'm not really using it.

[deft skiff]

chatroom is it socially acceptable to use assail? can I still be a cool guy but throw darts at bad guys

[strong gulch]

Genrally purg blessings are flurry + nexus, but some don't find flurry of benefit.

[lethal lagoon]

They got nerfed enough it's okay

Just don't use em in t3

[outer vessel]

Yes, just dont be an asshole in post game lobby like most assail users

[half iron]

i main ass fail on low int sedition

[final bison]

I would argue Barrage is useless on Purgatus but what do I know

I feel down as one with a lv 3 barrage staff

[lethal lagoon]

And don't toughness block your teammates lmao

[rose dagger]

Eehhh, that's how it used to be when it stacked 5 times and with less leniency, but now it's three and easy to keep up

[lethal lagoon]

I'm not really ever in a situation where I need to spam purg that much within that window except maybe once per game

[rose dagger]

Purg is for mixed/horde clear...

[outer vessel]

I can probably do another sitdown session after work if you want some visual pointers

[strong gulch]

Terrible barrage is usually useless because of the strong suppression already on staves.

You can meme with it tho.

[lethal lagoon]

And unless you are trying to whittle a crusher, you don't need to spam it that many times into such a horde.

Get fatal stacks up and do more useful stuff with other weapon/blitz.

[strong gulch]

I swear terrible barrage doesn't even work on some enemies.

[deft skiff]

feeling like magneto this shit got me on cloud seven

[raven basin]

no need I'm good with watching videos and practicing in pubs

[lethal lagoon]

To be clear, I don't think terrible barrage is good.

I just think flurry has no value for me

[raven basin]

thx though

[rose dagger]

Hordes are fairly continuous and you can spread it around if you like to dodge slide around alot while casting like I do

[lethal lagoon]

I get what you are saying, but I don't keep spraying once things are at fatal stacks 🤷‍♂️

[outer vessel]

Also I kinda fell in love with voidstrike tbh

[sturdy radish]

which dueling sword would be considered the best?

[outer vessel]

Preference

[lethal lagoon]

mk4 by far

Not even close

It's not preference at all

[rose dagger]

trut

[lethal lagoon]

I mean you can use whatever you want, it's a casual game.

but mk4 is so far busted ahead of the others it's not a comparsion.

[rose dagger]

I used mk4 for awhile when it was hyped

[strong gulch]

As a DS 2 enjoyer, DS 4 is better.

[rose dagger]

But then found myself returning to Deimos

[lethal lagoon]

I also enjoy mk5, something about the sweeping heavy makes me feel fancy. But it feels so bad to use after the mk4.

[rose dagger]

Better for horde clear and can do what duelling sword can with light->heavy spear combo

[final bison]

Im gonna open the game@and take some pictures

And ask help for your collective wisdom

[strong gulch]

If I had to rely only on melee, I'd take either knife or deimos tbh.

That being said, I find deimos a touch too finicky to use.

[outer vessel]

I like the og force sword

[lethal lagoon]

"bad/choices"

[outer vessel]

It still feels great to use to doink a rager on the head with h1

[strong gulch]

This is a me problem tho.

[outer vessel]

Correct

[lethal lagoon]

og force sword needs some defining buff, like having default deflector

[outer vessel]

I make nothing but bad choices and I am never punished for it, always lucky!

Like getting pinned as the last man by two dogs and somehow they just gave up and let me live

[strong gulch]

Do a surge LMB main build. 👀

[outer vessel]

Kk, on it

[hoary leaf]

do the force swords all have individual blessing pools?

[lethal lagoon]

There's a weird mechanic where when you are the last man alive, the dog sometimes just hops off you.

[strong gulch]

shared

[lethal lagoon]

I think it's leftover code which prevents hunting hounds from capturing 4 people.

[hoary leaf]

I just got the MK II from Melk and I cant put the Blessing on my Mk V

[outer vessel]

It's weird, yeah

I always assumed they got hit by something

Like a dot tick somehow gets them to release you, or a mutie charge

Bursters as well, but fuck them

[lethal lagoon]

Nah, they definitely sometimes just fuck off. I've had it happen enough and I've seen clips of it.

[outer vessel]

I explicitly downloaded spider sense to counter the bugged audio

And I do not regret it

[lethal lagoon]

I only use spider sense for bursters cause I just straight up can't hear them.

[outer vessel]

Now if only they can fix the memory leak and latest framerate issues, that'd be nice

[lethal lagoon]

Do you have weapon customization mod on?

[rose dagger]

Weapom customization mod causes memory leak ye

[outer vessel]

I am unsure how much that has to do with weapon customization

Oh

Well

[lethal lagoon]

[outer vessel]

Answer acquired

Fuck and I like using it too

[strong gulch]

Is the sword that you're trying to surrender equipped? Do you already have the blessing and forgot?

[lethal lagoon]

Not a big deal, just restart the game every 3 hours or something

[outer vessel]

[outer vessel]

Problem is

[hoary leaf]

ok now it works

[outer vessel]

I have stuttering frame rate lately too

[hoary leaf]

went in and now I could do it not sure what I was doing wrong

really curious what I did that messed it up

[outer vessel]

I never had issues at all with it, but man, it is annoying

[lethal lagoon]

I've been lagging today despite my internet being completely fine, maybe it's that?

Their servers I mean

[outer vessel]

Servers as well, yeah

My internet is very stable

But I've been hearing the infamous audio desync telling me the servers are having hiccups

You know what I mean, too

Also, I really want to use zap staff, but I literally cannot

[strong gulch]

My game was having a fit earlier too.

[lethal lagoon]

You know... server issues always happen when the game remains popular for long stretches.

I think it catches them off guard

[outer vessel]

Because the charged right click has that audio distortion for no reason and it drives me bonkers

[lethal lagoon]

They probably expected patch 13 hype to die down after a month but the numbers are about the same

So server problems

[outer vessel]

So I am going to remain best friends with voidstrike until a solution presents itself to fix it

[strong gulch]

Servers have low spoons.

[final bison]

Ok so the following are my Purgatus Psyker

I’m stuck at Heresy. I can win a Damnation or other but either way bots and randoms I can’t guarantee victories

And I always lose Maelstroms and Twins. Im not even getting close to Auric

I just want to feel good with Purgatus. I wasted all my resources on this, and the dlc aquilas on the drip

Any help is appreciated

Thank you for constructive commenting

:

PS: I tried Scrier Gaze and I sucked at it. I tried Shield but it is often redundant with a second Psyker who almost always have it. I tried Warp Siphon nut without Warp Flurry I feel Im not doing more damage than with Empowered Blitz which takes less skills points

PS2 : survivability is my biggest skill problem

PS3 : I can translate the skills anmes if you dont recognize (franco-atiradores = sniper / atiradores = gunners for example)

[outer vessel]

What about high spoons

[lethal lagoon]

Once you learn about spoon theory you have less spoons 😦

Don't tell the servers about it.

[strong gulch]

feck

[outer vessel]

Doomed to be spoonless

[lethal lagoon]

I generally dislike Purg, do wanna try my purg build for a change of pace? I only run aurics and auric maels at this point.

[outer vessel]

Same

But also new to psyker, so all my xp is as a zealot

[final bison]

Sure but I lack materials to itemize again

[lethal lagoon]

It's ds4 and purg, honestly, I don't melee much on it anyways.

lots of BBs going down with the double shields

2 free points

I find the extra quell uneeded on Purg

[snow dust]

oof you ruined a perfect staff. Used up the upgrade slot to put in Terrifying Barrage instead of Warp Nexus. Rekt

[lethal lagoon]

But you can grab that

Oh god that cloud raidus.

Brother 😦

Why do you have EP when you don't have kinetic resonance brain burst?

[snow dust]

He chose the wrong BB talent

Also what kind of low difficulty are you playing in where you can leisurely use BB as a main attack?

[lethal lagoon]

I only play auric t5s and maels.

Here's an almost only BB run, the first one I ever did #1158835513789272126 message

Well first one I ever did post patch 13

I ran BB only all the time back when I hated every staff and wanted to be a mage

[snow dust]

Oof, doesn't seem that great

[lethal lagoon]

It's not

But popping a lil shield in front of a shotgunner pack and bbing them to death is kind of fun

[snow dust]

aye, at least you're protecting the pubs

[ornate hamlet]

What's a great build? I'm only level 11 but want to know what to aim for

[lethal lagoon]

Just don't run smite and you'll be fine

[snow dust]

MK6 Combat Knife + trauma staff

[lethal lagoon]

Experiment.

low lvl trauma is trauma inducing

[snow dust]

Combat knife for ridiculous mobility + damage output & properly built Trauma staff is amazing

Improperly built trauma staff is the suck

[lethal lagoon]

You don't really have to "aim" for everything, as builds will change a lot once you are 30 and going for meta gear.

Most staves suck without meta stats

They are slow, generate high peril, and generally make you cry

[strong gulch]

Here is a playlist of basics. These will help with survivability. They are older but still helpful.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLB9cDlrYL_NDN7N5SL4zss9dFQqcnRV5H

Also this Pygex video that I shared earlier on purg tips so things are in one place.
https://youtu.be/1G9dUk2xLjY?si=hruhB2vcijXCUft0

Something to keep in mind is that there are more elites and specials in damnation plus. So things that proc off those kills are actually good vs in lower difficulties. Rounding out your kit to handle all types of situations is important. That's including positioning along side talent and gear choices.

[snow dust]

Mk4 Macarena Dueling Sword is great even with sub-par build

[lethal lagoon]

Indeed

Mk4 dueling sword + assail will get you an easy road to 30

And you'll still learn basic psyker survival skills for the most part.

[ornate hamlet]

Cheers all. I appreciate it

[snow dust]

Purgatus and surge staffs are usable. Purgatus has slow Time To Kill so you need a bit of a learning.

Surge has terrible anti-horde capabilities but it's brain dead to use.

So either way you'll need to learn how to melee shield yourself properly (shove/dodge/attack/etc

Because inevitably your teammates are going to suck at clearing hordes and you'll have mobs in your face.

[lethal lagoon]

That's also why smite is really bad for leveling

Because you learn literally none of that

[snow dust]

Aye, that's true

[strong gulch]

There is a lot of build variety. Unfortunately some of the weapons are doo doo with low rolls.

Just play with what you get and try out things as they become available.

[snow dust]

The force swords are nice to use while leveling and even in end game. They can do decently against everything. They're basically ghetto power swords.

Dueling sword is like combat knife-lite.

Combat knife is caffeinated chipmunk mode.

If you manage it, you're literally unstopable while putting out ridiculous damage. But it's extremely skill-reliant.

Chainaxes are pretty decent too. Easy to use, very comfortable.

Wot? It's true. (.-.)

[lethal lagoon]

They did get a buff, I'm mostly memeing

[snow dust]

They literally have one of the best attack scheme in the entire game.

Heavy attack for hordes, LMB for everything else.

very noob friendly

and can be charged for heavy targets

[near radish]

I like them personally.

[proven stirrup]

The chain axes are the least easy to use melee option any class has

They have so many weird quirks you have to learn to play around it's kind of absurd.

But they do perform well

[snow dust]

That's the chainswords. The chain axes are literally brain dead Heavy attack for hordes. LMB for anything else.

[static needle]

For knives, is lacerate 4 really necessary compared to lacerate 3?

[snow dust]

chain swords have weird quirks that make it kind of derpy against hordes and derpy against everything else

[snow dust]

lacerate 4? That's a weird way of spelling flesh tearer 4. /joke

[proven stirrup]

It's opposite day and no one told me

Carry on

[static needle]

wouldnt lacerate 4 be better against hordes tho? then i can also apply bleed easily without having to rely on crits.

[snow dust]

Also you can get away with lacerate 3 vs 4. It's just nice having 4

I mean, ya. lacerate 4 is better against anything that doesn't insta-die compared to 3.

But it's not that big of a difference

[static needle]

no but like...

for a scriers gaze psyker

lacerate 4 or flesh tearer?

which is better against hordes?

[snow dust]

As a psyker, not 100% certain but probably lacerate? Other classes can buff up their crit rates to pretty ridiculous levels so flesh-tearer is amazing

[static needle]

well i can buff up my crit rates pretty dang insanely with riposte as well

[rare arrow]

as a psyker it's almost certainly lacerate.

[snow dust]

That doesn't make sense, how are you going to fit 3 blessings?

[rare arrow]

That being said Flesh tearer is better in the SG window

so depends on your SG uptime

[static needle]

so uncanny is a must?

[cosmic sigil]

Yes

[static needle]

ive heard this said many times, just wanna make sure

[rare arrow]

Not a must per se

[snow dust]

Uncanny is SS tier

It's just really good

[rare arrow]

but it's just 24% bonus damage

stacking 5 times, so up to 120% bonus damage.

[snow dust]

On a knife that does ridiculously high damage per stab

so.....yeah it's great.

[cosmic sigil]

Against armor

It's like you're cutting paper now

[snow dust]

aye

[cosmic sigil]

And the bleed from lacerate is boosted by uncanny soooooo

[rare arrow]

with uncanny 3 im hitting 1330 damage on crusher heads

[cosmic sigil]

I prefer precog/riposte/executor tho

[lethal lagoon]

They fixed that, it doesn't function like bonus damage.

and it caps at 100%

Still meta and OP

[rare arrow]

you're right after doing some quick testing it comes out to about 60% bonus damage at 5 stacks for rank 3

[snow dust]

d('-')

Stab all the things

[rare arrow]

I do 850 without and 1338 with stacks

[cosmic sigil]

It' was more a nerf than a fix tho

[lethal lagoon]

Rending was supposed to reduce/bypass armor DR not increase damage, that's how it works in literally every game on the planet.(I was totally off, they did fix damage past 100% rending though)

So fix is apt

Then again fatshark does some things pretty uniquely lmao

[rare arrow]

rending and brittleness have confused me

never felt intuitive

[lethal lagoon]

Rending is all for one, brittleness is one for all.

Rending does cause "brittleness" in most games though 😆

[rare arrow]

does rending shockwave apply 40% brittlness at max?

[lethal lagoon]

Probably?

[rare arrow]

it says 8 stacks of 5%

[lethal lagoon]

But it doesn't say the cap.

Right? I haven't used rending shockwave in forever.

[rare arrow]

same

[urban sandal]

I would assume it's capped at 8 stacks and you just restart the timer whenever you apply them again

[cosmic sigil]

I remember them saying it was increased DMG passed the 100% cap. Like it was a feature. But I may remember wrong. Fatshark is never clear....

[swift grail]

rending is a buff on you
brittleness is a debuff on the enemy

they both do the same thing which is to either make you ignore enemy armor (rending) or reduce enemy armor (brittleness)

Rending can go up to 100%
Brittleness can go up to 40%

Cap is 100% and they don't stack even if you try because you cannot reduce someone's armor to negative effects. Once they reach 0 armor they basically become unarmored

This is how it works with numbers:

• You have a weapon
• Weapon deals 120 damage to unarmored
• Weapon deals 20 damage to Carapace
• Distance between Carapace and Unarmored is 100 damage
• 100% rending means: "The Distance between Carapace and Unarmored is now covered by 100%", in other words you deal the same damage to Carapace as if they were Unarmored
• Brittleness 40% means: "Distance is covered by 40%, as a result, the initial distance of 100 is reduced by 40% so there's only 60 damage distance left. Therefore, you now deal 20+60 = 80 against Carapace"

[cosmic sigil]

We should pin that

[swift grail]

I explain Rending / Brittleness in some of my Guides like this one: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9aed56e6-e5f3-4d1f-8109-20b35937380f/endgame-heavy-bull-build-auric-ready-guide-by-yobi

[lethal lagoon]

Memory is probably right, that sounds like fatshark.

I mean it did work that way.

I don't know how intentional that was though.

[cosmic sigil]

I think it was intentional but they never considered people would be running t4 rending blessings like it was mandatory

I think they didn't want another pinning fire

[sullen bobcat]

Who the fuck designed the tree where you can't run brain burst and maelfic momentum together?

[ornate hamlet]

Rending currently adds damage after reaching full armor penetration at a rate of 4 to 1

So when it's going to reduce the armor to negative, instead it buffs your damage

I still find it weird rending applies to unyielding and maniac

It's not like either are armor types

[gusty furnace]

that's uh

wrong?

120 vs 20 means an armor damage modifier of 16.6% repeating

100% rending would be an ADM of 116.6% repeating

Rending applying above 100% adm returns damage at 1/4th the rate.

So it'd be more than unarmored damage.

as for 40%

It'd be 120 v 20 or 20/120 for the same 16.6% repeating

40% brittleness makes this 56.6% or 120 x 0.566 or 67.92 damage instead of 20.

[cosmic sigil]

I invoke @indigo portal for clarification

[worthy scaffold]

is cleave that important?

[swift grail]

ok i found it. you actually still get damage over cap but to a ratio of 1 to 4 meaning for every 4% rending over the cap you will only benefit 1% extra damage

So key points are:

• Rending doesn't do anything on Unarmored and Infested. It works on everything else
• Each weapon does X% damage on each armor type so you take rending and add it straight on that (X% + Rending) to see how much damage you will now do on that armor type till you reach 100% damage done
• Above 100% damage done every 4% extra rending gives your weapon +1% damage over that armor type

[dreamy girder]

I don't think it is. The DS4 has a quite small area of attack

[indigo portal]

There's rending and brittleness. They are an additive buff to ADMs other than unarmored and infested. If you have +40% rending/brittle and a 40% ADM for Carapace you now have an 80% ADM, which is doubled damage. Once you hit 100% with an ADM, further rending/brittle sources are applied at 1/4th effectiveness. Total rending bonuses cap at 100%, brittle and rending are added together. If you have 40% brittle and 60% rending, you're now at the cap of +100% to an ADM.

[strong gulch]

Iirc, cleave on DS is bugged and is not super important right now.

[hasty sentinel]

how long does it take to apply soulblaze stacks with purgatus anyway

[tawdry pasture]

It’s a pointy stick, so no

[swift grail]

depends if you crit or not. crits apply 2 stacks, non crits apply 1 stack

[indigo portal]

Also Brittleness technically doesn't have a cap. It's just that every blessing and also Onslaught on Vet iirc use the same 16 stack debuff. There's a 20% Brittle debuff that Vet also has, which will give you 60% brittleness. Rending and Brittleness share the same cap.

[hasty sentinel]

how many applications per second, assuming no crits?

[sage canyon]

trying psyker after bneing a veteran main for so long

and is kinda fun the lighting and putting out shields for people

[indigo portal]

It should list the application rate in the stat cards for the Purgatus.

smth like 0.34s per iirc

[hasty sentinel]

oooh

[stone canyon]

Did vid about Cliffhanger penance as struggled with it. Warning involves n00b psyker gameplay. https://youtu.be/YYd1Q2u7NV8

[swift grail]

yes, i think anyone who reads what I wrote understands that rending and brittleness share the same cap and they are basically the same effect from a different perspective (one as a self buff other as a target debuff)

[dreamy girder]

oooooh great place for it

[ornate hamlet]

I remember uh

Trauma working for cliffhanger

That's how I got mine, I think on that same spot

[stone canyon]

I was afraid Trauma would kill poxwalkers before throwing em down there as im playing on low difficulty levels

But yeah noticed it throwing enemies around a lot

[indigo portal]

It implies that Brittle and Rending have separate caps. Just wanted to make sure it was known that they share the same cap.

[stone canyon]

Used venting shriek in the video

[dreamy girder]

time to go do that mission with a trauma/venting/force sword build

[stone canyon]

Read laser pistol is also good for pushing

Just used what emperor gave me, as if i had started buying 10k temporary leveling weapons for that Malice, could aswell just spent 30k to buy cosmetic hood instead then

[swift grail]

sure no problem. I didn't use the word "cap". I said it goes up to 40% which is what is available in-game right now. One could even use the wording "soft cap" with the word soft referring to what is in the game right now and not what is hard capped by the engine and they would still be right, unless someone wants to read too much into what word is allowed / technically correct or not 😛

#psyker-class message
#psyker-class message

[stone canyon]

Goodluck with it. Also you look like that mental heath counselor from Star Trek 😅

Next penance i gotte figure out to do is the 40 stunned enemies killed in 10s with zealot

[gusty furnace]

heavy sword

rampage and headtaker

headtaker or rampage and deathblow

you can do it in your sleep on damnation

[indigo portal]

I'm just trying to prevent misinfo. I see it a lot and it's annoying, so I throw in my little bit of effort typing something so I don't need to argue with someone later. Half of the message was also to add that brittleness can go to 60%.

[ornate hamlet]

I think that the truest form of dialogue is saying "penis" and walking away

[indigo portal]

You don't need to mind me if you already know the info and all. It's mostly for other people to see.

[stone canyon]

Ok sounds good, because i run 90% time heavy sword (mk IX) currently with headtaker+deathblow on zealot

[indigo portal]

penis

[stone canyon]

Just that im bit shy joining damnation still, usually wait for low intensity modifier

[gusty furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/cheers-ill-drink-to-that-bro-gif-12940340

[gusty furnace]

uh

just do it?

[ornate hamlet]

Do it nerd

[gusty furnace]

If you can manage heresy, you can manage damnation

its not really any different

same spawn rates, more HP

[stone canyon]

Yeah will do, im fresh to hitting lvl 30, so dont wanna be burden to teams

[gusty furnace]

fuck yo teams

[ornate hamlet]

These people had the courage to do it

So can you

[gusty furnace]

Eh

I'm just a "sink or swim" kinda person

Damnation truly just isn't all that difficult.

[ornate hamlet]

tbh as long as you can moderately pull your weight and do objectives, people don't really have much reason to hate you

[gusty furnace]

The hardest part of damnation is threat assessment

Focus on specials and you're fine.

[stone canyon]

Heresy feels often too easy if team is competent, so yeah i suppose its time to move to Damnation

[outer vessel]

Most times I don't even do objs

[ornate hamlet]

I was almost popping a vein when those three were making me do the eye-popping thing for several minutes in a row

[indigo portal]

Damnation is just Heresy but it's harder to hit BPs by a slight margin.

[gusty furnace]

^

[stone canyon]

Maybe should switch my Brauto to Revolver to snipe specials, just havent gotten the blessings for it yet

[outer vessel]

I just split with someone or go on my own to divert hordes and act as bait for specials

Not like super far

[ornate hamlet]

Like, it was literally just sitting by the corruption and popping the 3 eyes from the wall while pushing the horde

[gusty furnace]

The biggest jumps in difficulty are:

Malice, Damnation High Intensity Shock Trooper Gauntlet, and Auric Hi-STG

[indigo portal]

The modifiers will change it up though, the difference between base Damnation and HiStG Damn is much larger than Heresy to Damnation.

[ornate hamlet]

But God, I was doing that by myself for minutes on end

[outer vessel]

But it's easy to survive on your own

[gusty furnace]

Regular damnation is just Heresy but enemies have more HP

[ornate hamlet]

Long as you're not like that, you're good

[stone canyon]

Yeah i noticed that when doing Hi-Intensity Malice (the one in my vid). As lvl 20 with leveling gear and somewhat rookie team it was brutal

[ornate hamlet]

You don't need to be utterly goated and a based gamer god like me, just don't be like irredeemably awful or anything and alles blau

[stone canyon]

But also fun, gonna pick those again if i see

[gusty furnace]

There's a notable jump in the damage enemies do on malice

if you don't have all three curios on defensive blessings it can be a real ass kicker

[stone canyon]

My 2 curios are currently +10% exp 😄 for leveling psyker

[gusty furnace]

also, I have 1.2 million gold and 10k plasteel and nothing to do with it

Just saving up for a perfect plasma gun

Dunno what else beyond that

[stone canyon]

They should give very expensive dyes for veterans to buy and recolor their cosmetics

Like 500k a pop and some diamantine sprinkled on top

[gusty furnace]

ITD BE FUCKING NICE IF WE GOT PAINT PALLETES FATSHARK

I like some of the "low tier" guardsmen outfits available for in-game gold

but I fucking hate the colors

[stone canyon]

Could *paint it black *

[gusty furnace]

Ah, yes, blue and green on all city maps

Also

why do the top tier gold outfits not have matching weapon camos

what the actual fuck

[stone canyon]

Gold cosmetics look too gucci, its not a fashion show out there

[gusty furnace]

Naw, I like it.

Gives players some control over their outfits.

FashionFrame as an example

though not as uh

rainbow

[stone canyon]

Im not against em, just the aesthetics arent what id go for

[gusty furnace]

I like the desert outfits

I think that are on Veteran and Ogryn

I just wish we had a matching backpack and gun camo

maybe even melee camo

[strong gulch]

Curios should be available from the armoury. IDK why we can't just roll greys.

[gusty furnace]

but alas, Fatshark would rather nickle and dime 5 bucks out of you for weapon skins

Actually, 7?

Since they're 700 aquilas now

and a 5 buck package is 500

[stone canyon]

Yeah the pricing is bit off, should atleast give some -50% aquila christmas events or something to even consider spending

[ornate hamlet]

Fatshark slowly inflating cosmetic prices until people start doing negative reviews again

[gusty furnace]

They're reselling old cosmetic sets for the same price but with less items

[ornate hamlet]

The convergence point is the comfy mixed reviews

[gusty furnace]

What a wonderful system this cash shop is

Oh well

I can't control it

just get madge and that doesn't do anything

[ornate hamlet]

Fuck very positive, we mixed in this bitch

Overwelmingly positive? That's meta and meta is for peepee poopoo pissbaby loser twats

[swift grail]

Fatshark upon realizing player numbers going up and reviews getting better:

[stone canyon]

Insert Nike logo

But yeah i will go try it today for sure, either Damnation or Hi-Intensity Heresy

Well, thats kinda my goal to be the inbetween as been trying to farm suitable combat knife for my zealot for a while 🤷‍♂️

Not the kinda that speedruns half map ahead, but sticking around and using it for clutch saves and taking out priority targets near team

[dreamy girder]

so true. I wasted way too much time playing Heresy. Skill plateaus very fast if you don't push the diff

[ornate hamlet]

Fuck it, speed through the map

Loot goblin everything

Disappear for 5 seconds and come back with the location of every stim and deployable within a square mile

[stone canyon]

Last time i tried Damnation, it was map i had never seen before and team had lvl 27 in it and my newbie buddy, it was bad time the moment things got hairy

It was me being new in a new map yet i was the one trying to look out for em

Was constantly lastone alive raising em up

[ornate hamlet]

I could help you through it a little bit tomorrow (technically today, but it's not tomorrow until I sleep), provided you're not in idfk the right third of the world map

[dreamy girder]

lol. trial by fire

[ornate hamlet]

I think EU is still playable to me, but mostly SA and NA

[stone canyon]

northern europe here

[ornate hamlet]

Maybe worth a try after I sleeby

[stone canyon]

RU server in this one video game is the most accurate video game lemmings behaviour ive ever seen

[gusty furnace]

hey

I do that

but in auric hi-stg

[stone canyon]

Teams go in every match in groups clockwise around the map always

[gusty furnace]

It doesn't ever change

just git gud enuf to carry

[ornate hamlet]

I notice no such things, everyone's a mute and opens their mouth to complain

[stone canyon]

Give a month maybe more and maybe ill get there somewhat, now just 2 weeks in still wet behind ears

[ornate hamlet]

Except when they don't, but I need to make it look worse than it is

[stone canyon]

Vermintide 2 experience certainly helps, why i picked the melee class out of em all as first

[lethal lagoon]

That's like the least offensive thing they've done in the cosmetic shop lmao

Recolors for triple the price.

[compact cargo]

Recolors and Camo grind my gears but coomsoomers will flock to it

[lethal lagoon]

recycling store items and upping the price when they discover they are popular(like the psyker hat)

[compact cargo]

I can't wait for the shop been only recolors

[lethal lagoon]

I don't mind, it'll save me money cause I'm not buying recolors lmao

[dreamy girder]

the clearly desert themed "snow camo" recolor on Ogryn is hilarious

[lethal lagoon]

I play this game so much, I don't mind supporting it, but they make it so hard lmao.

[compact cargo]

Save money for what, recolors is lal fatsharl will do if this folk keep doing this

[lethal lagoon]

They didn't even try with the recolor lmao

Snow camo lmao, indeed, super snowy

[compact cargo]

I haven't seen Ogryn armor in months

[lethal lagoon]

Or the last week bare bones armor they knew people would buy because it's a "Shirtless" option.

Sigh...

At least the Santa hat is funny.

Or sorry, last week was the ridicilous pirate stuff

At least it was original, I can support that, and some of the items were decent.

The pysker pirate hat thingy

[dreamy girder]

oh the pirate stuff had some great pieces

[lethal lagoon]

Psyker looking like a cookie, is that a step up from a toliet bowl?

Yeah

[lethal lagoon]

I generally love the peg legs/aritifical legs, those are always well done at least.

[sage canyon]

do i have to get the kills? to get this proced?

[lethal lagoon]

Yes.

Keep in mind mutants, trappers, etc are not elites.

[sage canyon]

welp i guess i go the other talent

i am making a weird lighting build

and i must say is soo relaxing to just thorw lighting

tho i must say i am doing no ddamage i must mess around more with the talents

[gusty furnace]

I suppose you're not wrong.

Frokka the Boulder for 800

[hidden crystal]

For Smite, I guess so, but the other blitzes chain very well with guaranteed Empowerment on elite kills.

[gusty furnace]

Whatever the fuck is going on with ogryn's new fit for 2400

[gusty furnace]

uh

I like it

its not hard to get 3 kills on elites for 3 uses of EP - assuming you take the "it stacks to 3" talent

[sage canyon]

i am trying to make a lughting build

yeah nthere is something about stunning everything in front of me with a wall of lightings that makes myy brain happy

more happy then seeing brain explode or shooting missles

[gusty furnace]

yeah smite isn't bad

just not great with empowered psionics

shriek+warp charges are the way to go

[compact cargo]

assail

[sage canyon]

how about the bubble for more supporting?

[gusty furnace]

uh

you need shriek for uptime

I fucking hate psykers who use smite without shriek because they're holding R more often than they're stunning enemies

probably a skissue on their part

but shriek expedites the process

[compact cargo]

I hate psykers who don't embrace glorious melee

[gusty furnace]

especially since people are pretty bad about DPS racing the stunlock of smite

[compact cargo]

Melee Psyker is the future

[gusty furnace]

As in, they're unlikely to kill the things within the first period of smiting.

Either due to garbage weapons, bad positioning, bad threat assessment or whatever.

[compact cargo]

Vent let's me zaap more

Venting gang

[gusty furnace]

uh

on this topic

Trauma Staff

[compact cargo]

Also let's you cc dogs off teamates through walls

[gusty furnace]

You're basically invulnerable with trauma staff

so if you're worried about clutching

just go that route

Oh

I just let everyone die

and find a corner

and trauma staff all the melee enemies

then use BB on the ranged enemies

cause I'm not suicidally rezzing someone because they decided to not dodge a trapper or whatever

its a rare circumstance that you're actually able to rez someone if they go down

[compact cargo]

based bb user

[gusty furnace]

Because they usually executed dumb maneuvers to get downed in the first place

like running into a hallway of gunners

[compact cargo]

Daily reminder smallest psyker can res ogryn under heavy fire

downed allies still get hit by bullets

you don't

[gusty furnace]

#MaxHeightGang

#EasierHeadshotsInMeleeGang

I dunno. This is basically all I use on psyker anymore

[compact cargo]

I am smallest psyker so I can get on a crate to hit crusher heads

[gusty furnace]

I've played around with the other builds(Scrier's Gaze aside because I refuse to grind out a colomnus IAG on psyker of all people)

[paper loom]

for force sword is slaughterer best blessing?

[compact cargo]

I prefer the 5 headshots for crit, but I also run ep with bb and voidstrike

[gusty furnace]

Slaughterer, Unstable Power, Uncanny Strike, and Deflector

[gusty furnace]

uh

[compact cargo]

Deflector 🤮
More damage

[gusty furnace]

I wish I could headshot 😔

[compact cargo]

The funny cookie making staff

[paper loom]

i have this

[gusty furnace]

the empowere psionics brainburst build makes me sad

[compact cargo]

wish we had a staff of coruscation in dt

[gusty furnace]

you can't oneshot scab ragers

[paper loom]

there is a sword with slaughter 4 in melks

[gusty furnace]

for whatever fucked reason

but you can dreg ragers

duhfuq fatshark

[compact cargo]

The other day bb somehow didn't kill a buster that was mid air

[paper loom]

so wa sthinking of buying and replacing executor

[compact cargo]

I had my ep charge...

I'm so confused

[gusty furnace]

these are all my force swords for reference

[compact cargo]

And then sometimes it deals 4k damage to mutants/crusherd

[gusty furnace]

rest in peace obscurus

you're mad dogshit

but fatshark refuses to fix you

[compact cargo]

Obscurus is the Psyker Paul

[gusty furnace]

I hate how true that is

[compact cargo]

but hey now we have a psyker chainsword

[gusty furnace]

I don't even use the charged ability on deimos

with one stack of warp charges I oneshot mutants

[compact cargo]

It has a charge?

[gusty furnace]

See

But I was just going along with your chainsword joke

cause its just the same exact mechanic

activate

glued to one enemy

has worse damage than just attacking normally in the same timeframe

[compact cargo]

Fatshark things

[gusty furnace]

speaking of, I need to brick this on my psyker

I have these

[compact cargo]

Pray for sprint speed

[gusty furnace]

oh shit, i need to swap savage sweep onto shred on my chainsword

was doing some testing last night or the night before

on if rampage was actually power(It is)

Hey

BigJ

don't knock +200% cleave

you can hit over 20 bruisers with heavy attacks

fixed

much better

[gusty furnace]

not even sure what build I'd use it on TBH

kinda sad its just not on my zealot or veteran

[gusty furnace]

well

[compact cargo]

But I have to

[gusty furnace]

could've been worse

[compact cargo]

not bad I expected Hadron to throw a tantrum

[gusty furnace]

not bad, not bad

this one will always make me laugh though

I should put BCR on my curios

[compact cargo]

I'm still at odds for my trauma build, I love dueling sword, but Deimos

[gusty furnace]

and just max out block cost reduction for rezzing people

[gusty furnace]

I flip flop between the two with extreme regularity

They're uh

completely identical now

[gilded ember]

what should i change

[gusty furnace]

Which, I guess, isn't a super bad thing really. Creates decision making options.

[gusty furnace]

riposte to rampage

[compact cargo]

Why fatshark, why have you given us weapons with the same niche, to make us switch every odf mission?

[gusty furnace]

odf means "other damn fucking" now

I don't know if that's what you were going for

but it makes sense in that sentence

[compact cargo]

off* xd

I hate phone, big fingers

[gusty furnace]

OGRYN

[gilded ember]

😭

[compact cargo]

[gusty furnace]

Did I stutter?

Just focus on grinding out more dueling swords

[compact cargo]

I now know how Ogryn feels hacking

[gusty furnace]

these are my dueling swords for reference @gilded ember

[gilded ember]

bruh seems like another 20hr grind is on its way

[compact cargo]

Don't worry, fatshark won't release new weapons for a few months

You got time

[gilded ember]

oh for sure

[compact cargo]

It's also not pistol grind

Columnus psyker meme gang

[gilded ember]

we need more skins for the staffs

[compact cargo]

Even with weapon customization they are quite meh, yes

[gilded ember]

i don't even run mods

[compact cargo]

I must, I wanted my Illsi to look like dueling sword

and my dueling sword to look like deimos

and my deimos to look like a heavy sword

[gilded ember]

waiting for the two handed force sword

[rocky raven]

dont tease me like that

[plucky flax]

Weapon customisation mod author took away my big force sword.

[sly dawn]

🙏

[compact cargo]

I have old version

So I still have...the chonker

I don't have big boltor or massive stubba tho

[plucky flax]

I queried him as to why he removed the 2 handed sword models.

If it doesn't come back I'll revert back to old version.

[summer prairie]

One of the recent hotfixes removed at least lua related to the 2h forcesword, maybe the models too. Probably due to that

[plucky flax]

Also it's impossible to do '1 mission without anyone dying' this week.

I even did regular damn and yet people still die.

[ornate hamlet]

i want more cosmetic sets that represent all personalities for the classes

like imagine the seer having these raggedy robes

wiith one robotic eye

like the emperors skeleton on the throne

[rocky raven]

any consensus on nexus/surge vs nexus/flurry? with crit chance surge seems to proc over 50-60% of the time (void staff)

the flurry cast speed feels nice but with Quellcancels idt it really matters much

[plucky flax]

You always want surge on void.

The the 2nd blessing is debatable. Nexus is most popular just for extra crit chance. Flurry can work with true aim, but you do notice a lack of random double balls.

Transfer peril is eh. You quell too much peril, thus lower your damage imo.

[compact cargo]

But you can fire forever

Alergic to vent build

[lethal lagoon]

Has 1 misson without anyone dying.
Does regular damn with only time for 1 more mission before cut off
Guy literally runs into poxburster and get's yeeted off the map

Literally never taking that contract again.

[plucky flax]

Time for uprising twins.

Surely..

[lethal lagoon]

😆

[plucky flax]

RIP twins won't let me do it on sedition.

[urban sandal]

i can’t even find a single twins mission now

no one wants to do it

[lethal lagoon]

Someone is just going to get insta killed by corruption lmao

[plucky flax]

All these sedition gamers missing out on twins contents.

[plucky flax]

(Like me)

[dreamy girder]

walking sim enthusiasts*

ftfy

[plucky flax]

[mighty olive]

my sibling lookin fly!

[glossy ember]

i still don't have hm twins emblem

[idle bay]

fatshark and their fomo shinenigans again...

[olive ember]

bro every hard mode twins i did today the team crumpled in before 2nd intermission

[plucky flax]

Hard content mane.

Only zealot and ogryn can complete it.

[olive ember]

I think i've only had one orthus normal win today

after like 6 tries

[lethal lagoon]

Ooo, that's not good.

Contiuned membership in the discord requires you to reguarly carry twins runs

😦 👋

[shut shoal]

tips for purg staff? running it with stagger barriers but im still taking huge ammounts of damage with it

[olive ember]

its hard when they can't last more than 30 seconds in a fight ffs

[plucky flax]

Take the evastion talent.

1s evasion every crit.

[lethal lagoon]

Use a better staff

[lethal lagoon]

Skill issue(I seriously have no idea how I beat hardmode with pubs, praise the emperor)

[olive ember]

I beat it twice with pubs once with LFG and once with chaos

but they always had a semblance of competence

these teams i'm getting today die in like first transition

[lethal lagoon]

Fog = cotton candy that gives plasteel 🙂

[shut shoal]

idk how yall do psyker for that, only way ive beaten it with pubs is taunt ogryn taking all the heat off them

[plucky flax]

With me wasn't pub though.

That was full premade with beans and syllo.

[plucky flax]

Random solo queue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvaenOLrY9A

[plucky flax]

This one is with a lfg here so the quality of players were better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIblNd7RN9w

[lethal lagoon]

I thought normal mode might be a good plasteel farm even in pubs, but boss failure rate is so high. Probably need like 4 Ogryn bum rushing the map for it to be worth it.

[shut shoal]

love ya brother ty

[lethal lagoon]

His psyker vids are nice

[plucky flax]

(Don't watch me on veteran or ogryn)

[lethal lagoon]

Or voidstrike

[plucky flax]

I do big damage on voidstrike though

But it's assail for 80% of the map.

[lethal lagoon]

To the ground

And walls

[plucky flax]

[lethal lagoon]

🔫

I really need to grab nitro 🥹

So many subscriptions....

[plucky flax]

I only use the basic nitro.

So it's pretty cheap.

[lethal lagoon]

A sub is a sub to me 🤷‍♂️

[plucky flax]

True.. just money out of pocket every month.

[lethal lagoon]

I have to keep some streaming services up cause my parents use em, so what's the difference.

[plucky flax]

Spotify, netflix, amazon, vpn, anti virus.

[lethal lagoon]

Thank you netflix for having a library so bad my parents no longer want it 🙏

[plucky flax]

Not to mention the irl important stuff like insurance and what not.

[lethal lagoon]

Amazon is getting another bump up... which is great.

Doordash, Hulu, Peacock also over here 🥹

I think I have chatGPT from when I was trying it for some work stuff, probably need to cancel that, fuck.

[plucky flax]

I don't use those fancy other services.

Chatgpt have subscription too?

For their better model?

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah, I haven't used it in months , shit.

It was for limited access to the better model, and unlimited access to a slightly worse but still better than free model.

Something happened though where even the better model started hallucinating way more.

That's what happens when you use the general public for training data 🤷‍♂️

[plucky flax]

Dayum

[lethal lagoon]

I don't know how it is now, but the hype has definitely cooled.

I remember people saying it was going to take huge amounts of jobs by now.

Now side applications are getting attention I guess. I wonder how artists running on comission are doing.

[twilit flicker]

suffering from imposter syndrome, spent nearly the whole day trying to get Twins HM with a few teams, 4th team in we get it first try and then again to prove it wasnt a fluke

[olive ember]

It do be like that

I remember the first few teams I joined in LFG were uh

Well one team didn't even beat normal twins and they wanted to do hard

[lethal lagoon]

When everyone in the lobby agrees to do hardmode but just runs past the bells

[paper loom]

will i brick this if i change executor to slaughter 4

[olive ember]

uhhh

[paper loom]

means keeping sprint effeciancy but im thinking it evens out the mobility

[olive ember]

idk if its preferabble to cahnging one of the perks

i forget what the breakpoints on deimos are

[lethal lagoon]

Specialists is mutant 🤷‍♂️

So sprint to maniac, executor to slaughter 🤷‍♂️

Don't look at me though, I don't like deimos

Oh

Really don't look at me

Super dumb

(And still hate deimos)

[paper loom]

i only have one change left i think

[lethal lagoon]

Is slaughter even that useful on deimos?

[olive ember]

eh?

[lethal lagoon]

Meh, slaughter is so good, I'd change executor to slaughter anyways.

[olive ember]

its better than executor atleast

i just don't know if its better than hitting breakpoints

idk what deimos breakpoints are tho cuz I hate the deimos kekw

[paper loom]

What do you mean by breakpoints?

[olive ember]

check if your deimos can kill a mutant in one shot with the h2

[paper loom]

It usually 2 shots

[near wyvern]

Allows you to one shot mixed horde including most elites, allows your chain L1 to also eat mutants when combined with uncanny strike

https://youtu.be/6v6uUZI6T5c

[paper loom]

I prefer deimos to the other one , I found it harder clearing hordes with it

[olive ember]

well yeah the illisi is the horde clear force sword

deimos is for its standout single target

[near wyvern]

Section 24 check the table for Deimos

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959

[paper loom]

Yea im not sure why but I just prefer the moveset

I'm the same with the dueling swords lol

[outer vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/the-goon-geek-nerd-alert-video-games-gif-16159546

I hate this crafting system I hate this crafting system I hate this crafting system

I thought Hadron believed in steel, not bricks

[hasty breach]

does anyone just left click on Smite? what's it for? o.0-

[glossy ember]

panic button

also handy against bursters if you notice them late

[glossy solstice]

A breakpoint is when you almost kill in a given number of attacks, then bless/perk the weapon and it now kills in fewer attacks. Most of us want to 1-2 shot hard targets. The formula that most often gets big numbers and therefor meets breakpoints is (Rending/brittleness + Power + Armor type) or (Crit + Power + Armor Type)

[outer vessel]

is soulfire even worth it as a damage type?

[hasty breach]

yes

[outer vessel]

just doesn't really seem like it actually does a lot

[hasty breach]

it melts hordes over time and propagates. blaze trauma, purgatus, adn smite + shriek are staples for this

[outer vessel]

what about say, just from talents

because I have nowhere else to put it in my build

two points can really go anywhere

[hasty breach]

lots of builds run the soulblaze on elite kill one. wildfire is ok too but not as great

but survivability is great too if you want to get another toughness talent instead

[outer vessel]

was thinking about it, but the one worth taking probably isn't proccing very often to use it

psychic leeching with smite only goes off every so often compared to say, brain burst or assails

they'd use the stacks much faster

[hasty breach]

i mean the toughness on warp kill, quell, etc

in the top rows

[outer vessel]

I got all o those

theyre all too good to pass up

[hasty breach]

maybe just post your build for people to comment on

[outer vessel]

Nah, I'll figure it out

I like to do these things on my own most of the time via trial an error

[north cargo]

Havent played in a while, whats your guyses favourite staffs?

[hasty breach]

voidstrike is pretty fun and reliable. surge and trauma require pretty precise rolls to work well so are harder to have fun with right off the bat. purgatus is pretty fun too at any roll for its stagger potential

[stone canyon]

Pretty solid leveling weapon for lvl 22 Psyker to get to lvl 30?

Blessings could have potential endgame use too

[quasi junco]

going to try the don't use melee or blitz challenge with voidstrike

lets see if I can do it

[hasty breach]

yea it's fine but youll get better later. many people prefer the mark 4 dueling sword for easier headshots but uncanny strike will be shared to be reblessed onto one of those

i.e dueling swords share blessing unlocks

[north cargo]

So all of them 😄 Now i just need a melee

[stone canyon]

Yeah, lvl 22->30 is gonna be like 10 hours of gaming probably anyway so having something nice to melee with helps a ton and lvl 3 worthy of sacrifice once done using

[hasty breach]

well i was warning you against surge and trauma to know they get better later

most psyker melees are fine but the mark 6 dagger, mk 4 dueling sword, and illisi and deimos swords are pretty popular

[stone canyon]

Best staff to level with? (lvl 22 now)

Will probably spam Assail and melee most of the time anyway

[fluid aspen]

Voidstrike is a great all-rounder

[north cargo]

Was using Surge (lightning staff) for a while, its pretty good for stunning and whatnot, but im not great at using it i think... Imma try Purge ^^

[fluid aspen]

Purg staff is very close range btw, get something you can use at a distance alongside it

[north cargo]

Okay, thanks imma look out for them 🙂 Mark6 Dagger? SOunds new... well all of them sound new to me... Loved the Force sword, mainly because of the visuals and the range-blocking with a certain blessing, but eh.... im not good with it.... But maybe thats because my "main" is a high DR zealot, everything else now feels slow and squishy x)

[fluid aspen]

Mk4 Dueling sword

[north cargo]

Brain burst and just switched my last talent to "empowered psyionics" ill see... plus with my zealot i was doing fine without any ranged xD

[fluid aspen]

Well yeah but Psyker doesn't have half their talent tree designed to get you into melee range without dying

[north cargo]

Ye, more mid range support

[trim valve]

Isn't voidstrike awful at low levels? Takes for ever to charge and without good damage stats it can feel underwhelming

[north cargo]

To be fair, that goes for alot of weapons :3

[fluid aspen]

It's fine if you aren't trying to go into Damnation at 22. Like some twat I saw the other day

[trim valve]

Damnation at 22 is the way to go, trial by fire.

Not with the Voidstrike though.

[north cargo]

I saw that auric Maelstrom dammnation gives alot of exp, so imma use that for leveling

[trim valve]

Does maelstrom give more exp?

[north cargo]

Ye, mission modifiers give more exp, but dunno if the maelstrom missions are just longer?

[stone canyon]

Wish there was lvl 1-2 difficulty hi-intensity missions for making penances easier

And to make early leveling more fun

[sly dawn]

soo
this decent?

[fluid aspen]

I've not found the BB talent that makes it proc randomly any useful tbh. It kept just proccing on horde fodder. % chance to proc AND cooldown make it very underwhelming

[north cargo]

true, but one point for random head-pop is fun ^^

[fluid aspen]

You can get some decent talents in the first group before blitzes for that 1 point

[north cargo]

and SOMETIMES meleeing an elite and it just pops works too, not something to rely on though

[north cargo]

Maybe try empowered blitz, just switched to it with brain burst, really good

[trim valve]

I thought it was ok against bosses but even against them is quite bad.

[sly dawn]

what about the 2 ones after that, do i get the 1 on elite kill or chance increase?

[fluid aspen]

Depends on your playstyle. Brain Rupture generally benefits more from Elite kill because you're using it on them so as long as you have elites, you can keep chaining the empower

[hasty breach]

i think the only usecase where the free BB is nice if your first target in a battle is a crusher and you get 2 BBs out at once or something. otherwise i agree it seems like it'd help but often doesnt much

[north cargo]

im currently using the "on elite", but couldnt tell you which one is better... Since its just elites not any specials.

[sly dawn]

fair, i'll try elite first and see how it goes,
thanks

[north cargo]

But im new to psyker, so dont trust my word 😄 But i just got the achievement Pick 'N mix on my first run:

teammates werent that great though x)

well... one at least... Had the brilliant idea to keep pulling deamon hosts while there were elites and specials around us.

So close:

[quasi junco]

damn ive never swept the board before

[trim valve]

How important is blast radius for voidstrike? I got this staff for free

[fluid aspen]

Is that a scoreboard plugin?

[quick tulip]

Yep, scoreboard mod

It's not always specifically accurate but it does give a decent generalized idea

[fluid aspen]

I mean the mod doesn't look like that by default, so is it a plugin for the mod that makes it look like that

[trim valve]

Is a different mod, incorrect it is a plugin for the scoreboard.

[fluid aspen]

Think I found it
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/241

[trim valve]

Yeah, that one.

[quasi junco]

Sorry yes, its the one you just linked

[north cargo]

is there an options? mine looks slightly different:

Also: Wooooo level 30 yay

[fluid frost]

hey so I just got this from levelling up a brunt stave

change 8% ranged for 25% flak?

[north cargo]

Ou terrifying barrage sound good, what exactly is considered "close range"?

[fluid frost]

good question lol

[worldly iron]

thanks brunt

[fluid frost]

[worldly iron]

I made this work with Gunpsyker builds

[north cargo]

Why are some penances in the "redacted category"? Is there something special to them? they seem to be the "old" penances, from the dark times

Was going crazy since i couldnt find the psyker penance to do 90% damage to a boss

[glossy solstice]

7m

[north cargo]

thanks, then it's really good ^^

[fluid aspen]

Just noticed this counts Warpfire damage as well

[glossy solstice]

Its the good and bad of FS. They acknowledge that these penances are counter productive to group synergy, I am paraphrasing, so they redacted them but if you want to make a private group you can still do them.

[fluid aspen]

They are Redacted because they were designed for the systems before the class rework, and are no longer the intended difficulty (see Warp Battery). They didn't want to remove them or their rewards though

[north cargo]

Ah, well honestly not a bad idea... and what do you mean "counter productive"? As a psyker i just need to warbomb myself, its a good tactic... xD
Also only some have the "private game only" tag on it, it seems:

[fluid aspen]

I still don't have Going out with a Bang after about 80 hours of Psyker

[north cargo]

Ah, good thing i already have warp battery... Did it not remove the warp stacks on ability use before? Now it just means "dont use your ability for 300 seconds", which is bad ofc

[north cargo]

It just means you are good enough to never bomb yourself ;D

[fluid aspen]

Yeah stacks used to stay on venting and only decay over time, and any Brain Burst kill (or charge on a target killed by a teammate) gave a stack.

You could keep max stacks by just bursting some plebs standing around

[glossy solstice]

^yea that is why I said good and bad of FS, they did not rework them, but they did the best they could with limite resources.

[north cargo]

Ye, i think i just got it with the passive "chance to get a stack on enemy kill, even from teammates" and then just to a high intensity map, pretty much "automatic get"

[fluid aspen]

Yeah just don't use your ability

I've been kinda trying to do it with a Purg soulflame build but I don't really pay attention to it because I already got frustrated by trying to do it with BB a while back

[north cargo]

na, i got it before the rework ^^

[fluid aspen]

I did too, on fucking GamePass and my save didn't carry over to Steam

[north cargo]

still, this one gave me nightmares:

[north cargo]

ouf, thats bad :3

oh, this one got privated too, only one im missing on my zealot ^^

[fluid aspen]

Yeah these are pain, I think some people run groups for them on the Discord tho

I need to do Malleus Monstronum some time

[wet compass]

What the name of the blessing which let's u cast then u get hit?

Also, any other super rare blessing for psyker other then surge and blazing spirit?

[fluid aspen]

Not sure what you mean by cast when you get hit

[wet compass]

Staff channelling

[fluid aspen]

Gimme a sec

[north cargo]

this one?

ah no you said not surge

[fluid aspen]

Don't think there is one

nvm

This one?

@wet compass ^

[wet compass]

Hmmm, what else I should check melk for?

[outer vessel]

I AM SO TIRED OF THIS BLESSING

it seriously needs to FUCK OFF

every voidstrike staff keeps rolling run n gun

[trim valve]

@outer vessel have you tried it?

[outer vessel]

why the hell would i

[trim valve]

I mean if you keep getting it, why not try it? Look at it like getting a chance to try it for free instead of having to roll a staff to give it a run.

[outer vessel]

...its not free

I have wasted 3k plasteel on that blessing multiple times now

I do not WANT something that dogshit on a staff designed to 2-tap crushers with headshots

[trim valve]

If you are about to discard that staff because it got that blessing, you don't need to spend any more resources to give it a try.

[outer vessel]

I discarded all of em already lmao

[trim valve]

Ahhh, damn shame, you may never have a chance again in your life to try it out.

[outer vessel]

there is no build or playstyle that endorses that blessing where you get any real milage out of it

[glossy ember]

run n gun doesnt work with rmb so it's never good

if it worked with rmb on staffs it'd be niche but good

[untold widget]

run'n'gun, transfer peril, and a cracked aim where you only hit weak spots. Pop scriers and machine gun away.

[trim valve]

Hmm I never tried run "n" gun with Voidstrike but I can think of some interesting options if you couple it with surge blessing and true aim talent to move into positions to guarantee the double shot, infinite cleave attack.

[glossy ember]

too niche compared to even transfer peril

you'd be moving by dodge sliding mid fight

[olive ember]

I mean arcotash loves focused channeling last I heard

[trim valve]

Ehh, if I get it for free I would not mind trying it, but I also would not go out of my way to craft it.

Sounds interesting enough.

[feral verge]

@spice veldt 's favorite trauma build is transfer peril and terrifying barrage

[spice veldt]

you're a criminal who sells lies

[jaunty schooner]

I heard the same so it must be true

[spice veldt]

wtf

[feral verge]

when did you become psyker mom

[languid tusk]

transfer peril only works on a headshot, right ?

how would that work on a trauma staff

[feral verge]

lmb lol

[jaunty schooner]

Ren is still zealot dad so I put it back

Dw you are still mommy mankar to me

[zinc phoenix]

Probably only on the left click

I hope they add some new ults and stuff down the line

Rogue Trader has some sick psyker powers I’d love to see in DT

[languid tusk]

biomancer psyker would be really cool

you can buff players with extra melee damage or extra movement speed

[zinc phoenix]

Like a support style psyker

[languid tusk]

ultimate ability gives everyone speed stim effect, blitz ability gives 1 target damage stim effect

[rocky raven]

what's better reroll for breakpoints- carapace > elites or crit chance?

[plucky rune]

is this something that I am looking for?

[bleak tulip]

crit damage is bad, charge rare is pretty important, quell speed higher would be more optimal for DPS and maniacs is imo not that value on void because you're killing muties with your stabbing implement of choice usually

it's perfectly usable, but not optimal

[rocky raven]

reroll maniac > flak imo

will make it a bit better

[glossy ember]

carapace gives you 1 less shot to do on crushers, carapace into elite should make maniac ragers and maulers die in two shots, shame about missing 2% crit from warp nexus but it is what it is.

[plucky rune]

for general purpose or boss killing?

[ionic needle]

Scab ragers are only flak and maulers are flak except for the head, right?

[olive ember]

Flak is general purpose

[rocky raven]

yup. maulers are carapace head

[olive ember]

Most bosses are unyielding

Orthus twins are carapace head

I think only the assassination bosses are flak

[glossy ember]

sorry i meant switching carapace into elite

not carapace + elite

i run flak + elite myself

it's the good stuff

[kindred ivy]

i run critchance 👌

critchance , and somethince else

[rocky raven]

yea am testing flak/elite as we speak, much more consistent 2hko on gunners too it seems

[kindred ivy]

on top of crit aura, crit node, scriers

[long wharf]

Basically, you're hurting yourself if you ever choose elite damage over an armor damage

10% vs 25% is huge

[kindred ivy]

just crit

[glossy ember]

not on surge staff

because you get to hit two breakpoints on important targets with elite (mauler and maniac rager)

maniac wouldn't do jack shit except the same breakpoint but just on maniac rager

unyielding isn't bad but it's an uncommon target

same with carapace

[olive ember]

I just don’t troll by not bringing surge staff

And bring something good instead

Like the revolver

[glossy ember]

ugh

[olive ember]

[long wharf]

Void staff

[bleak tulip]

flak might also help sparing some charging time or second shots on dreg maulers

but that's not terribly high priority

haven't really tested it

[long wharf]

I really do enjoy using the surge staff, but it doesn't feel good to need three full charges to kill crushers

[olive ember]

It’s 3 to kill a mauler too if you don’t have the right perks

And you are unlucky and don’t crit

The wonders of surge staff

[long wharf]

Surge staff doesn't kill quickly enough and doesn't hit enough enemies to be considered good

Not when compared to the alternative staves

[rocky raven]

facts

[north cargo]

Surge is awesome for a quick stun against dogs, trapper, even big guys, but ye damage is kinda meh even against armored targets

[long wharf]

Surge is fantastic against ... dogs

[olive ember]

Nope wrong again

Surge can’t hit dog breakpoints

It takes 2 charges to kill

The wonders of surge staff

[long wharf]

I do like that you can aim at who you want to be primary target, but if it didn't do that, the staff would be trash-tier

[olive ember]

Same with flamers actually

Surge needs 2 to kill flamers without crit

It’s just

Truly wonderful

[north cargo]

two left clicks or fully charged right clicks?

[bleak tulip]

probably both actually

[north cargo]

hehe

i mean with the psykers new Q, the lightning thing, the staff really needs some sort of rework

[bleak tulip]

honestly the best single target damage on surge could legit be left click because of the high base crit rate

[rocky raven]

100% is with QC's

[bleak tulip]

this is not staff advice tho

[long wharf]

I mean, it stuns them in one hit

[bleak tulip]

the last time I playe surge was when it was bugged a few patches ago and it still wasn't fun to play for me

[long wharf]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Surge's best life was when it got EP buffed

[olive ember]

When surge was bugged it actually felt okay

[long wharf]

It felt good to use

[bleak tulip]

if I can't bowl I ain't happy

[north cargo]

i did like the damage against the fully armored targets, bug watching veterans mowing those down by the dozens in a few seconds, while still providing team support....eh :3

[olive ember]

The 3 target was a bit ridiculous but that’s about it

And then all the whiners cried surge was OP so

Here we are

A mediocre staff with zero buffs

Myeh

[north cargo]

Ah it got nerfed? Mainly talking about it from my time shortly after release x)

[olive ember]

Surge staff was bugged where it was gaining smite buffs

So for a period it was dealing damage to 3 enemies and also getting smites 125% buff

All the malice players on Reddit cried about how surge staff was literally invalidating their games (because they play like snails and literally stand there and let surge staff kill everything) so when surge staff got fixed nothing was changed to compensate it’s utter mediocrity

[north cargo]

Ah

Well speaking of damage, does firestream staff do soulblaze, or different kind of burn?

[olive ember]

Soulblaze

It also does direct damage per tick

[north cargo]

Mainly asking for the two talents "enemy spread their blaze to new targets on death" and "10% chance to get bottom left thing stack if soulblazed enemy dies"

ooooohhhh... guess i should take those talents then

[rocky raven]

10% if YOU kill it, big difference

4% coherence is more consistent overall

[north cargo]

REAAAALLY dont wanna go back to warpstacks, since the empored is so nice with brain burst, but want that achievement :3

[olive ember]

Eh depends on your build

If you are using purge just use the 10%

Imo

[rocky raven]

purge is the only time id take it ya

[north cargo]

frick... speaking of me killing... if my dots kill an enemy would that still count? asking for my zealot as well

[olive ember]

Blazing trauma can run 10% as well

[rocky raven]

yes