psyker-class

[bright mica]

no shade but how did you typo it that bad when you're in a channel called #psyker-class

[quasi junco]

lol

aurics really are easier than standard ||(cuz of the types of players that queue for each)||

[bright mica]

depends on the day ngl

new update and suddenly aurics are filled with weekend andy's with more thumbs than functional neurons

[mint pivot]

tbh aurics are filled with people like me aswell. We either 110% carry the match or are a 220% of a hinderence for the team

middle ground does not exist

Same as with all fps games. I either absolutely dominate or get rekt so hard i wonder why do i even bother. And its best due to it not being day specific, its fucking match specific

[glossy ember]

can you explode during scrier because of kinetic deflection

asking for a friend

[mint pivot]

Dunno but i managed to kill myself with warp deflects today...

[woeful rivet]

What is the dump stat on the purgatus staff?

[mint pivot]

dmg 😄

[woeful rivet]

well in that case

ill be straight down to hadrons

[mint pivot]

It just wants burn and cloud radius if im not mistaken, everything else is just extra icing

[plucky flax]

Good luck that's good.

Although warp resistance is too high it'll be slow to generate peril for shriek.

[mint pivot]

Gonna feel like shit to try and force high peril with purgatus anyway

especially if using it agaisnt a horde

[worn cypress]

lol what I play purg at as high peril as auto-quell lets me have

if you have a horde to yourself you can basically indefinitely edge at 90-100

[hot zephyr]

No , scrier's just ends at 100% and kinetic just overflows to stamina blocking when you hit critical peril.

[chilly kiln]

am i crazy

or zealots are all like

dumb?

zap a whole buncha ragers and they run away

out of zap and had to quell my peril and they rush in and die

last stand at the train station and the 2 zealots refuse to put down medpacks

[mint pivot]

Dont you know the number one rule when having smite psyker in your team? "Stunned enemies die to the psyker"

[glossy ember]

give up on smite

embrace whatever else

[mint pivot]

Pretty sure your team would ignore monstrosities if you just zap em with smite

Then again, if you are running BR, enemies head glowing blue = oooh free kill

[hot zephyr]

Yeah i dropped smite, the lesser species don't understand it's a CC not damage. They think it's surge staff

[thorn cedar]

Zapping shit expecting your teammate to kill it is no bueno

Zap shit your team is actually facing

[mint pivot]

whenever i get a team that ignores smited enemies i just ignore smite all together and move past the horde, i can block for longer than rest of the team can combined, they can deal with it if they dont want help 😄

[chilly kiln]

i mean

you'd think that tagging the big fat dudes with like

plated armor

and chain axes

then zapping them

would be a clear sign

"DANGER! FOCUS THESE BASTARD DOWN!"

but nope

just run off

why?

[mint pivot]

Its even better when you stunlock entire train station worth of hordes and specialist packs so that the other guy could revive the 2 downed dudes in the middle

"lol they are stunned, time to make a run for it!"

[chilly kiln]

[mint pivot]

Was memeing around with smite + purgatus bullshit

was the only one left up in the map with the giant rotating elevator

It took me over 2 hordes to finally get everyone back up without them instantly dying again

Jesus it was tough whenever anything more durable appeared

[worn cypress]

lol wtf difficulty is this

[severe folio]

thats why you dont use smite when you already have purgatus

[quasi junco]

If only we could use both at the same time

[quasi junco]

my experience is that its vet where a majority of players are really awful. Usually on the surviving side, they pewpew so much they dont see those 5 poxwalkers on their behind

[opal gyro]

I dunno how I feel about warp flurry on purge staff, I might actually go for terrifying barrage instead

[untold widget]

All staves have terrifying barrage innate, killing enemies will stagger enemies that have yet to die around them

its a pointless perk

blessing

whatever

[glass forge]

how to do Twins hard mode as a psyker? two hits from anything and im half dead, mines everywhere, snipers suddenly hit u, backstabbed by enemies

[untold widget]

block, have situational awareness, have situational awareness, have situational awareness.

mostly

[opal gyro]

You sure? Doesn't really feel like it

[glass forge]

OK i set viewing angle to largest, cos i cant see things behind me

[untold widget]

if you could, you'd be an abomination and we'd have to purge you. Turn and look around every now and then

twins hard mode is probably the hardest content in the game right now

[opal gyro]

For sure

[untold widget]

if you aren't comfortable in Auric damnation hi intensity shock troop gauntlet, then hard mode will be tough

[opal gyro]

My honest advice is that psyker just ain't it for doing hardmode, but if you can make it work then all power to you

[midnight forum]

Hi, I want to slot in Deflector, which one of these perks should go?

*blessings

[untold widget]

blazing

[digital narwhal]

^

[midnight forum]

Thanks!

[untold widget]

np

[carmine agate]

[strong gulch]

Terrible barrage isn't innate to staves, but staves do have so much suppression already. Which is why it's not worth taking; plus, you give up other blessings that could meaning fully contribute to something.

The LMB on have super strong ranged suppression. You can hurt a reaper's feelings a lot. . However in melee, a group can easily overtake you without terrible barrage. WITH IT, you LMB trash in melee and they just cower there.

Just pointing out that terrible barrage is not innate, but still not worth it.

[opal gyro]

I'd probably miss warp flurry if I gave it up lmao

[glass forge]

losing HM twins fight is actually quite good way to get $, would be better if i can do better and win

[strong gulch]

Terrible barrage is only worth it as a meme because that's all you have after hadron bricks EVERY SINGLE THING.

So cope as a LMB main.

[untold widget]

So if staves have "so much suppression" and terrifying barrage is "suppress enemies on close range kill", then I would say that staves have TB innate.

especially on purg staff

[strong gulch]

They don't. Enemies behave differently.

LMB purg is different from the other, but for sure agree.

[untold widget]

and originally, they were going to put TB on purg staff. which is pointless.

[strong gulch]

Yup, def pointless.

[untold widget]

unless I remember incorrectly and TB allows you to suppress crusher packs, which is the only thing Purg can't hold off

[opal gyro]

I'll check after my current mission lol

[strong gulch]

Rip purg not staggering crushers anymore.

[untold widget]

but even then, you'd only be able to suppress crusher packs in a mixed horde scenario, which isn't always the case

[strong gulch]

I would assume TB would work, but the cost of other options. 🥲

Edit: Just tried TB in the meat grinder with a Bulwark and some chaff. Then I tried multiple Bulwarks. Bulwarks did NOT care in either case.

[quasi junco]

is true aim worth on surge?

[strong gulch]

I build into warp siphon on my surge build, so I don't have the points for it.

[untold widget]

Could probably make it work in an assail focused build, using assail to true aim and then swapping for the crit, but idk if it'd be worth it

it'd be a busy build to play

you'd get more mileage out of a voidstrike with surge blessing on it

[strong gulch]

Agree.

Surge staff does live off of crits. To reliably true aim stacks, getting them from melee might be easiest. So if you swap between weapons and don't want to build into WS, it might be worth it.

But at that point, I thing you'd be bending over backwards to makes something work.

[glossy ember]

you'd lose more dps trying to get weakpoints

[strong gulch]

If you're already using melee a lot and fishing for ranged crits, you could go the blazing + rending shockwave trauma route.

[untold widget]

every weapon Brunt has in my armory, summarized

Why yes, Brunt. I'll replace one of my many 370+ base rating weapons that i've meticulously crafted with this hot steaming pile of garbage.

[untold widget]

I wonder now if Surge will generate true aim stacks on its own...

I'll have to test that

[glossy ember]

with lmb

[umbral helm]

when it targeted random body parts it could, same with smite. but now it's just the lmb that can yeah

[strong gulch]

Rip no more true aim farming with smite.

[untold widget]

yea you're right

shame

[umbral helm]

it was fun to do but reasonable that it's gone. I ran true aim before the random body targeting anyway because I wanted to get to DD, but that was before they fixed its highlighting not always being visible

it wasn't the most efficient thing ever, because you couldn't hit weakspots as often as you'd want for True Aim or DD, but you didn't need to. the stacks you'd get from just killing them normally were enough, if probably "wasted"

[proven stirrup]

Good god I love these laspistols

I really wanna make a lasgunpsyker but I have nothing to make them with yet

[mint pivot]

do you use lmb or rmb with knifes?

[west stream]

Embrace gunker

I have mk2 but wanna make a mk 10 to see how it plays

[gritty ice]

If I'm not playing Surge Voidstrike but with Warp Flurry do I still need the true aim talent?

[proven stirrup]

Yeah I have a pretty good mk X

But I don't have the resources to really mess with anything and I also don't know what to do with the talent tree for it yet

[lethal sable]

I used to play gun Psyker for a while, but the Voidstrike Staff has made its way into my arsenal as my primary ranged weapon.

[proven stirrup]

I still don't have surge so I'm not bothering with that again until I get it lol

[strong gulch]

Pygex has some content on knife. The use for the old and new is kinda different, but both do push attack spam for single target.

Info on new knife. #psyker-class message
#psyker-class message

[plucky flax]

It's so true.

[strong gulch]

Even without surge blessing, true aim is still worth it because VS makes easy use of it. Flurry + nexus is good on VS.

[mint pivot]

Why is it that always when 50% of the team is killed, the 2 left spend every waking moment going out of their way to loot ammo and shit, just to get swarmed by a horde after 5mins of looting and they fucking die to it

WHY?!

[untold widget]

plasteel

[proven stirrup]

ok nvm, this peril edging thing is not my style

Can't manage it for shit

[marble pebble]

just blow up for extra damage

your team will appreciate this

[proven stirrup]

I try to at least do that much but I'm not about to have them pick me up 3+ times in one heresy mission

That's just not ok to me and I'll be staying away from that playstyle

[hot zephyr]

It's very mechanically intensive to min/max. I personally like it but I am no where near top-tier at it, so I swapped to a slightly different psylot/gunker style build that runs bubble shield and rashad/columnus/assail/ep

[delicate walrus]

What should I do with this knife, replace one of the perks with maniac? or leave perks as is and bump uncanny to lvl 4/swap out riposte?

[hot zephyr]

Uncanny 3 is good enough imo. Honestly unless you want Maniacs instead of one of your other perks, you don't even really need to refine it

Riposte is also dope blessing wise if you dodge a lot, which you should be with a knife

[delicate walrus]

o cool, i guess ill just leave it as is incase any future patches fuck with things then

[hot zephyr]

if you run the aura and the talent, including base crit chance of 7.5%, you'd hit 37.5% critical chance

Which is plenty

[delicate walrus]

well alternatively i just got this lol

i guess in this case id keep carapace and uncanny, what do you prefer if youve got free pick on 1 perk/1 blessing then?

[umbral helm]

smackdown has always seemed interesting in concept, but I honestly just forget the special action on knife exists half the time

it's honestly kinda funny, you do just deck them with a quick jab

punching a crusher with that one talent vets get to bleed on melee to kill it with bleed your armor means nothing, big man

(this is not recommended)

[untold widget]

probably change elite damage to flak or maniac, and change smackdown to flesh tearer

[strong gulch]

Both perks are good. I like maniac tho.

Uncanny 3 is good enough. I'd replace riposte with flesh tearer.

[tired knoll]

dont crushers take barely any bleed damage unless you have a bunch of rending

[ornate hamlet]

ey, don't diss my perfect strike

[celest hedge]

am I wrong or is Illisi just bad?

[ornate hamlet]

thou art wrongeth

[lethal sable]

Illisi is actually pretty good.

[celest hedge]

the basic power up of it feels worst than an unupgraded powersword, and the powersword is worthless with power cycler, and doesn't have peril to deal with

[strong gulch]

Pretty much.

[ornate hamlet]

But it also doesn't get good mobility, good finesse on all attacks, two separate warp damage buffs by just playing the game normally (scratch that, three), ranged block, and it also doesn't come in a class that can spam a fire shout with low cooldown that scales with peril

[umbral helm]

congratulations you got the point of the joke

[strong gulch]

Illisi is one of the stronger melee options psyker has. Put slaughter on it; that's its anchor blessing.

[ornate hamlet]

And I am under vague impression that the illisi's special is faster to use, but don't quote me on that

It also staggers ragers like the power sword does, which is magical

[umbral helm]

it's fast enough. faster than deimos at least

[strong gulch]

You can also consecutively charge the speacial to up your peril too.

[umbral helm]

ye, good in a pinch if you need to make use of anything that benefits from high peril

in my experience though if you're in that situation you're desperate

[ornate hamlet]

I am

Honestly I really dislike the peril scaling on shriek

When they introduced it with stagger I already thought it was incredibly stupid

Spent a day thinking the bulwarks in the game were bugged

[strong gulch]

You can also maintain peril during down time or recover some toughness if you have quietude.

[umbral helm]

I'm not sure how to feel about it scaling with peril. I guess it works better for the tree, since warp charges aren't the only option these days

[ornate hamlet]

this is the gun ive been using any other guns i should try out

[strong gulch]

Laspistols and the revolvers.

[plucky flax]

I would change carapace to maniac or flak, your choice and change riposte to flesh tearer.

[untold widget]

Oooo

[orchid shadow]

Blessing fight!

[untold widget]

well exorcist would get swapped for slaughterer

and maybe infested swapped for something useful

[azure bridge]

On the surge staff, does the critical bonus stat affect chance AND damage or just damage?

[nocturne badge]

what blessings/perks do i want on a knife?

[mint pivot]

aint it just chance? 😮

[glossy ember]

it's an ok knife to start with if you don't have any other

[strong gulch]

Perks are maniac / unyielding / carapace.

Blessings are uncanny strikes + flesh tearer

[mint pivot]

flesh tearer is the one that gives bleed stacks?

[glossy ember]

ye

executor is decent too

[mint pivot]

Current test run knife has the thing that gives bleed stacks on non weak spot hit and the one that gives crit dmg vs bleeding enemies

Seems to work quite nicely until i can get a proper knife

[strong gulch]

There is lengthy info on the crit bonus stat in the Atheneum up in the pins.

[mint pivot]

I just cant wrap my head around using anything other than deflector melee weps...

Too much of a crutch perk

[ornate hamlet]

Deflector users when the slide

[mint pivot]

i am a gigachad psyker, i dont slide. I slow walk to smack them in to next zip code

[glossy ember]

slide with knife pushes you to the next medicae station

no need for deflector

[strong gulch]

People who use crutches irl need them.

[willow hazel]

Why bother deflecting when you could just kill whatever is shooting at you

[plucky flax]

That requires skills which I don't have.

[honest robin]

Whip out the gat

As a true sigma+ psyker i take a gunker build with a purgatus staff and use all the effects purely for my ds4

[wicked hornet]

what is the better combat knife the 3 or 4?

[shy prairie]

depends.

do you want more acceptable clear, less damage but better usability

use the new un

old one is pure single target

[wicked hornet]

okay, Thanks

[static needle]

Do you have to charge warp attacks fully to make warp flurry?

[queen fog]

Not at all no

[cold elm]

anyone have tips for damnation hard mode psyker? im struggling hard with it

[queen fog]

Spam that shit for full stacks

[static needle]

word

[queen fog]

Ya it only specifies chained secondary’s rather than fully charged ones

So as long as the blessing is still there u can tap secondary and refresh the blessing

[queen fog]

Always depends what kinda witch ur rockin, smite BB and assail all solve different problems after all

And that ain’t even counting the abilities

[plucky flax]

I like laspistol knife assail the best there.

[static needle]

use DS4 for boss hard mode

much better

it can kill single targets which knife takes too long to do

[plucky flax]

Well I did it with knife multiple times.

Bleed for extra boss dps.

But of course y ou can play whatever is comfy for you.

[willow hazel]

Does a bleed knife actually do more damage than ds4?

It feels close but idk

[plucky flax]

It also ticks when shield is up.

[wicked hornet]

what is a good lappistol build?

[plucky flax]

Assail with ep.

[wicked hornet]

I'm just tired of staffs

[quasi junco]

lol nonsense

[wicked hornet]

never done a gunsyker

[cold elm]

im using smite psyker with speedloader

[quasi junco]

when I get tired of staffs I play zealot for a round or two

then back at it

[icy wyvern]

why is it even possible to target a daemonhost with brain burst

[queen fog]

Cuz it’s a heretic

Do u not want to aim at a heretic?

[icy wyvern]

two games in a row, daemonhost wipe

starting to think plasma vets are just a bad sign in general

[quasi junco]

dont wake her up

[icy wyvern]

bro im fuckin TRYING

[quasi junco]

just go crown her in the back of the head with a shotgun

oh wait wrong game

[icy wyvern]

im just trying to play the game and mf zealots and vets are snorting coke before runs

[cold elm]

DS4?

[rotund fable]

this is at melk's for 1500. good staff or bad? (i dont use purg all that often, but want to try it out).

[mental rock]

Very good

Get flurry to 4 and it's nearly perfect

[rotund fable]

I'm pretty sure i got flurry 4 in my avalible blessings, but i need to check

which perk should i change

[mental rock]

Generally it's preferred to have damage or warp res as the dump stat for purge, but quell speed isn't that bad

Swap the lv3 flak for lv4

[rotund fable]

unfortunately, i am out of plasteel... again... time to go farming

[strong gulch]

Mk 4 dueling sword

[cold elm]

how is that compaired to the demos fs

[wicked hornet]

I just don't know what to use as a weapon

[slender coyote]

fire

[wicked hornet]

purg?

[slender coyote]

always

for me at least

[quasi junco]

damn almost 1k kills on this auric mission

[shy prairie]

get it

immediately

quell speed is nice but there's 30% in the tree

flurry -> flurry 4, flak -> whatever you want and you've got a great staff

[icy wyvern]

hey im sure you guys really like revolver

but kindly stop using it

🙂

[shy prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/viktorbg-gif-25283495

[kindred ivy]

another SMITE W lmao

[shy prairie]

oops all smite

[kindred ivy]

yes

[harsh urchin]

Looks like a melee only

[midnight sand]

Ok here we go right channel

ahem

Question, what’s the best keystone for Psyker? I can’t make up my mind because all of them look kinda boring :/

[quasi junco]

answer is 42

[midnight sand]

Thanks broski

[snow coral]

depends on your build

[quasi junco]

Warp charges great for all staves, DD great for gunkers and voidstrike users

EP is meh imo

but some people love EP assail

[snow coral]

assail is snooooooze boring

[midnight sand]

I’m going for a crowd clearing/single target/squad helping build with the bubble shield

[eager mantle]

I don't use BB unless I have EP. I need that fast charge

[midnight sand]

I have assail and the bubble shield

And I mainly use melee for crowds/single target

[eager mantle]

Then probably left side. You will get more warp damage with shards and reduced cd on bubble

[midnight sand]

Bet bet, thanks a bunch

[eager mantle]

EP I only feel worth on BB since it gives that faster charge and and guaranteed charges off elites. See a line of gunners? Just rapid head pops 1 after another

[strong gulch]

They are fairly similar in terms of single target focus and light attack pattern. A well built deimos can one a mutant with heavy 2. DS4 has higher mobility and is less fiddly with its heavy attack chains.

[snow coral]

revovler smite bubble is great for that. i ran it for a while. CC for hordes and revolvers drops everything pretty quickly

[inland glen]

Hello Psykers, haha. I had a quick lil question.
When it comes to "Scrier's Gaze", what is best to take for a "gun-psyker"?

Is the bonus movement speed worth it?
Is the Toughness Damage Reduction worth it?
What does the "Precognition" perk mean? (Weakspot kills count as 1s spent in Scrier's Gaze)??????
Is the reduced Peril Generation Worth it?

Thanks

[shy prairie]

im tellin you, staves refuse to roll 4's for me

[lyric burrow]

depending on what your taking with the gun, i wouldnt take the reduced peril generation since if you are running something like BB/Devils claw/laspistol then you arent gonna be generating peril most likely while in scriers
toughness damage reduction is decent
weakspot kills means that if you weakspot kill an enemy it will count towards those stacks you get via spending more time in scriers

i usually take movement speed

cause generally im not generating peril with a scriers build

but if you running illisi or something with it then yeah id take it

[shy prairie]

I'm not an authority on the matter, however the movement speed while useful as a steroid incase you need to get to a far away downed teammate sees redundancy because if you're going for those far off revives in the first place - you're probably running kinetic deflection which uses peril for block until critical, by nature scrier's will give you less block. Toughness damage reduction is always nice, although I usually build health on psyker so I don't combust into confetti if a dreg bruiser smacks me on the back of the head. Scrier's, every second offers you %1 damage - weakspot kills with precognition basically doubles that as a reward for hitting weakspots; and, gives you 1% finesse damage (30 regular from scriers, 30 from precognition). Reduced peril generation can be useful if you're intent on using a purgatus with full criticals, as it basically just heaps on more and more critical chance - which is very useful for weapons that get chain crits such as the aforementioned purgatus and the recon lasgun, for example.

[lyric burrow]

peril gen might be worth as well if you are having issues getting stacks in scriers before its over

[ornate hamlet]

I’m fairly new to this game and have only been playing psyker and ogryn are veteran and zealot any fun?

[shy prairie]

would recommend the 30% quell speed particularly if you have bad quelling on your staff, sword or whatever

[lyric burrow]

i like zealot alot

[shy prairie]

they're individual playstyles

[lyric burrow]

cause you can just slam your face into all the enemies in melee

[eager mantle]

Yes all classes can be fun

Just different styles

[ornate hamlet]

Ight thanks fellas

[shy prairie]

although i'd hazard against starting four characters and trying to level them at once

artificially extending the levelling via doing that is torturous

[eager mantle]

While hadron will give a lvl 4 to this

[eager mantle]

Gotta be one with the warp

[echo island]

Is there even a good voidstrike build without surge?
Ive wasted upwards of 6k+ plasteel at this point just trying to get surge and I pretty much gave up so

[vale nacelle]

Nexus/Flurry is more than fine.

[shy prairie]

I have so many staves with exactly one good tier four blessing on them and none of the complimentary T4 blessings because they're not shared

It's a travesty

i.e.

[inland glen]

My fault, yeah I wanna goof with assail a bit

[frail harness]

What's the dump stat on Voidstrike?

[lyric burrow]

yeah id take peril gen

[vale nacelle]

These are both more than servicable in auric damn. Sure, 20% sprint efficiency sucks, but it's not going to make or break a run.

[shy prairie]

imo, as you can mitigate the penalty via solidity passive

[shy prairie]

aye, this is my ancient stave from the first patch

it has done me more than well

[vale nacelle]

Now transcend to blaze trauma like a true sibling

[sharp obsidian]

Which gun for gunpsyker? Columnus IAG?

[shy prairie]

doing my best although with rolls like these

[willow hazel]

that's probably the strongest. But most guns work

[shy prairie]

column with scriers, i've heard good things about

[willow hazel]

they play differently too

[shy prairie]

there is the option of going for a handcannon revolver as well, with scriers

particularly with precognition for scriers

30%+ base damage increase & 30% finesse

[willow hazel]

laspistols also work great with scrier's

[shy prairie]

The MKX has irritated me, feels relatively clunky while the old las has been slowed down

although I wasn't exactly using my usual suite of blessings on it

[willow hazel]

Agreed. It feels like a watered down surge staff with no stagger

[strong gulch]

Not bad for an emp drop.

[acoustic swallow]

rather keep reload speed or dmg against elites? i want to put dmg against carapace armor on it

[inland glen]

@shy prairie @ember sentinel This might be extremely goofy goopy, but what i'm thinking is a lil fun "Bounty hunter" Outlaw Gun-Psyker.

The Assail is just because I like it as a satisfying gameplay horde clear so that I get a bit stimulated. I'm not really planning on using the assail while using the scriers tho. The scriers will be for my guns and against bigger heavier targets.

I didn't take the 20% Damage Reduction because it doesn't seem that useful. I feel like the remaining 4/5 of the damage will still be enough to give me a hard time.

The keystone is a bit more help for the assail, but mainly for the feel of being a bounty hunter, y'know.

Is this too goofy?

[plush vine]

imo would keep reload speed for how slow the reload is. Most elites are likely to get one tapped from headshots so would get a better mileage with reload speed.

[full bane]

If psyker gets 2h force sword sometime in the future and it has a moveset similar to the Bretonnian longsword from VT2, I’ll officially give Psyker another chance

[shy prairie]

it's never too goofy

you're psyker

[full bane]

Spark’Ead’s are quite the silly bunch

[feral verge]

I've seen more silly/goofy ogryns

Than psykers

[full bane]

Of course, Ogryn’s are the Emprah’s silliest warriors after all

[quartz barn]

gonna be honest

been playing a bunch of ogryn for penances

and its even more obvious that 90% of the pub randoms suck

3 mission clears without downs/incapacitated for longer than 10 sec hardest penance lol

[kindred ivy]

what, its smite xd

[shadow wigeon]

Maybe someone has got a better one worked out, but after 30 games of testing a dozen different combinations, I settled on a build that makes Blazing Spirit Voidstrike fun and pretty strong.

By far the weirdest build to balance I've made

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9adf909d-45db-4cc9-820f-da17bef75595/janky-fire-wand

[static needle]

run perilous combustion or i file heresy report, remove "peril quell on DD target"-heresy as well

[olive tendon]

Help me wat do I do

[shadow wigeon]

Run n Gun -> Transfer Peril
+ranged -> you have options (maniac, elite, unyielding even... you can tweak to your taste)

[fierce crest]

[olive tendon]

remove the 10% dmg?

[shy prairie]

"An unprotected soul can no more cross the storms of the warp than a heretic can bear the gaze of the Inquisition."

[quasi junco]

If you are going for a critstike build that is bricked

[static needle]

Melk really loves this sword lmfao

[olive tendon]

I dont know what the term bricked means in this context

[shadow wigeon]

It means it's not ~~possible ~~ great to make it work for a critstrike build, but it's all good for Flurry/Transfer Peril

[static needle]

hadron betrayed you is what it means

when consecrating

Its usefulness is significantly subpar to what you couldve gotten

[proven stirrup]

Which one of these blessings do I want to bank first for this weapon?

[shadow wigeon]

If you're not in a rush hold on to it until one of them shows up elsewhere

[proven stirrup]

That makes sense

[proud torrent]

If I'm interested in backing up frontliners to avoid disablers to avoid failed runs, would you suggest purgatus staff builds the most? Basically, I think most of the difficulty my runs are failing to are disablers during horde clears, and I want to snuff those out while doing decent damage to help the horde clear.

[proven stirrup]

I need a gunker build that doesn't use warp rider

I fucking hate that playstyle to death

[shadow wigeon]

Hard no on Purg for that.
All 3 other staffs are better for that role.
Personally I prefer Surge, but Trauma is strongest overall.

Void works fine, but you'll have to work harder.

Don't sleep on L1 for all 3, for ranged removal.

[proud torrent]

I viewed void as a horde clearer instead of support. It's surprising to hear that recommendation for rooting out disablers

[shadow wigeon]

L1 is good on all 3, charged shot can knock down or remove disablers at infinite range. It's just harder to use, in general.

[proud torrent]

I suppose less horde means easier to spot disablers and avoid the problems with them

[wheat tulip]

I drop charges all the time even at 30 seconds just because there wont be anything in range to actually kill. What are you using that lets you get and keep 30 charges at 15 seconds?

[shadow wigeon]

No, you can target them directly with L1, or fully charged shot cleave through a crowd to get at sniper that's behind a horde (not as good as revolver or plasma for sure, but not nothing)

[wheat tulip]

uncanny is great, rampage not so much, I get the crit on dodge because it instantly stacks to 100% and I dont have to worry about missing like with shread

[shadow wigeon]

Surge is the best specifically against disablers. You need to learn what charge level will root/stun/kill them so you're not doing a half-job and they still engage your team

[proud torrent]

thx for the advice

[idle bay]

There is a bit awkward Assail+ Surge + Shriek (Creeping Flames) builds who goes either through EP or Warp Charges (both work but differently)... requires more quelling than usual. Allows to deal with swarm spawn of elites with Assail, and do normal Surge things you allways do. But it's awkward as f....

[shadow wigeon]

Surge/Creeping Flames/WC is just strong (enough) in general. You just need to be ready to play pretty aggressively.

[idle bay]

After running few mission with assail+surge, i switch back to Surge+Shriek (Creeping)+ Smite in my comfort zone. And fun part - there are mission where i don't use Smite at all or use just once or twice,

[plucky flax]

[shadow wigeon]

Surge/Creeping I don't use my blitz ever. I have BB on and 1 in 10 missions there's some awkward sniper around a corner than it's ok for, but it feels more like flavour than anything.
Smite does seem like you can find places to use with the latest changes to spawns.

[idle bay]

I use Smite to take a sip from my cup of tea , or to scratch nose

When combat is going on

[shadow wigeon]

This got a bit too real. I don't drink tea but I've been caught out scratching my nose more than a few times already.

[proven stirrup]

I'm beginning to realize that my internet just goes to shit from 4pm onward, making this game completely unplayable

[idle bay]

Also latests lab mission. Rooms with poor visibility when you need to defend in a thick fog. Smite works a target finder for a team.

[static needle]

Can colomnus with dumdum and paired with scrier's gaze be good at killing crushers?

[shadow wigeon]

If you are trying to roll a Surge, if your first Blessing is not Flurry4/Nexus4/Terrifying Barrage, re-bless it to Terrifying Barrage before you roll it to orange. This makes it almost certain to end up with Flurry/Nexus.

(although Flurry/Nexus 3 is fine too, but if you want to make a peak Surge go for 4's)

[idle bay]

After i rolled this one. Trying to get better one probability lies beyond trickiest Tzeentch paradoxes.

[hot zephyr]

I doubt it. If you look at the weapon damage tables it barely scratches caraspace

[static needle]

is any gun decent at killing crushers except for revolver?

[icy wyvern]

yall reckon a rending/blaze combo is viable

on trauma

[hot zephyr]

Check headhunter mark 7 that's the only one I think has even a chance.

But even that's probably a longshot

[vale nacelle]

Need nexus to eek out enough crits to make blaze remotely reasonable.

10% from perk+talent isn't enough imo

[icy wyvern]

beans

[icy wyvern]

do I need +crit as well or is that just a cherry on top

[hot zephyr]

Yeah so then probably hard no on IAGs, Las, and the las pistol. Which leaves revolver and staves

[static needle]

whatchu think? vraks is an option or hard no?

probably no, right?

[spice veldt]

ye

that's what i run on melee maelstrom

i wouldn't run it elsewhere, but the option to use that is there

[hot zephyr]

Hard no, crushers have what 2k HP on Dam? That's way too slow.

[spice veldt]

the minimum adm that crits get isn't particularly enough, so I'd just stick to meleeing them

[static needle]

im looking for a weapon i can use that shoots fast enough that i can uphold emphativ evasion almost constantly and also deal good finesse dmg

[static needle]

im trying to make a build possible with the mk VI catachan knife

[spice veldt]

the knife isn't that bad right

[midnight sand]

Holy Christ the cliffhanger penance is so annoying

[spice veldt]

it's at least got uncanny

[midnight sand]

Can anyone please help me do it?

[static needle]

and flesh tearer

its good imo

[neat summit]

For crushers I normally whip out my sword anyways. Deimos H2 to the head will knock them over every time.

[hot zephyr]

To make this work you probably just go brain burst as your blitz then cross the tree for gaze.

[static needle]

ye but gaze pairs shit with BB

[neat summit]

You can easily fight 5+ crushers solo in a mixed horde

[hot zephyr]

Brain burst solves a knife/pistol combos range and crusher problem

[static needle]

plus, brain burst is slow af

[spice veldt]

shank the crushers

[static needle]

and doesnt have the ability to stagger more than one

[neat summit]

BB charge time isn’t bad with EP

[hot zephyr]

Your whole build doesn't have to synergize.

Sometimes it's just about having all the tools.

[static needle]

but that needs an ability to work and u dont wanna use BB right after scriers... terrible idea since Blitz generates alot of peril

Can work okay with assail cause of some synergy and lower generation than BB or smite

[spice veldt]

BB not being able to benefit from +weakspot dmg from DD 😔

[static needle]

ugh really?

[spice veldt]

yeah it has a weakspot multi of 1x

funnily enough

[static needle]

bruh

[spice veldt]

any hopes or dreams of DD working with it have been shot in the kneecaps

[neat summit]

You don’t want BB for Scryers anyway because you want mind in motion

So you’re either doing assail or smite

[static needle]

mind in motion is redundant

Is battle meditation obligatory when running DD + scrier's + assail gunpsyker?

[hot zephyr]

If your running gaze you want battle med

[static needle]

u sure itll proc that often?

[hot zephyr]

Gaze naturally quells a bit from kills but it's basically nothing. Battle med can give you like 1-2 extra seconds in gaze

Either way it's going to be a small benefit

[static needle]

+15 toughness is probably better tbh

then i can not run quietude

or i dont have to

i can get all my toughness regen thru killing and shooting

[hot zephyr]

Athenium states staying in gaze longer than 14-16 seconds is essentially impossible because you'd need perfectly stacked poxes and a DS4 and that's never going to happen in gaze in real gameplay

[static needle]

the rate at which u quell peril with just assail is terrible so the regen will be bad

[hot zephyr]

So optimization for gaze DPS is not really worth imo

Should just build a good build and then treat gaze burst as a bonus

[static needle]

sooo run +30 more toughness probably then?

[hot zephyr]

I like picking up extra toughness nodes. 120 toughness is great if you can stack up 4 of the 5 nodes

[static needle]

i dont think 140 toughness is overkill. im running 1 toughness curio

and 5% toughness bonus on every curio

[hot zephyr]

Yeah I run 4 +15 nodes plus two 5% perks for 132 toughness and find it's plenty

[static needle]

did you come to the conclusion that battle med is not worth it or did i misunderstand?

dunno if i really need gunner resistance tbh, emphatic evasion + assail should be enough

[hot zephyr]

Battle med is good if you are a peril dump build. If you want to float peril for warp rider or the 10-33 TDR from peril talent then it's not necessary

[static needle]

ye im doing 10-33 TDR so its not necessary tbh

and i am floating peril

[hot zephyr]

Yeah so skip it.

I take Battle med on my BR / Creeping Flames / Siphon build for purgatus because you exclusively want to get rid of peril as much as possible so you can keep flame pumping.

[static needle]

im trying to make knife psyker as viable as I can:

[hot zephyr]

But I purposely avoid it on my assail EP build because I want to float peril for warp rider so I can weave between assail and my gun for EP and Malefic Momentum

[static needle]

i feel like running the crit chance isnt worth it because TDR from peril talent

makes scrier melee builds more comfortable i think

[hot zephyr]

Don't bother with the +20 TDR during gaze modifier. It stacks multiplicatively with the other talent for TDR from peril

Run one or the other

[static needle]

huh?

[harsh urchin]

20% TDR multiplicatively is still obscenely good lol

It ends up being 17-18% TDR

Instead of 20

[static needle]

hmmm

[harsh urchin]

But hes talking about the 10-33 % tdr under cdr aura

[static needle]

without psykinetics aura the 20% toughness reduction isnt worth it i think

[harsh urchin]

Which is also insanely strong

[hot zephyr]

It ends up being anything between 12 and 18 percent.

Still good but just having more toughness is just better

[harsh urchin]

Uh no

It should be around 17% or so

Based on basic math

And how much tdr psyker has access to

Which is primarily the 10-33 node since the smaller 5% nodes arent always taken depending on build

[hot zephyr]

The 5% nodes are known to stack additively with each other, but the other talents stack multiplicatively with each other and them

But yes I agree it's still good

I'm just saying I found I didn't need it

Pickup at least two of the 5% nodes then pickup one of those two talents. Toughness recovery from passives will do the rest

Pickup The 10-33 if you plan to float peril, pick up the flat 20 from gaze if you don't.

That's my logic

[static needle]

gotcha

[hot zephyr]

If you find you want both, by all means. I'm just some random guy in the internet telling you what I think and I find works for me

[static needle]

Would u change anything with this for knife psyker?

[spice veldt]

not for psyker

only ogryn gets that

psyker's toughness DR node are all multiplicative

[shadow wigeon]

Depending on what you're running I get a lot of battle med quells in Scrier's with Void.

[static needle]

im doing gunker

so peril is not necessary, only for assail

[hot zephyr]

Looks good to me to start. Very similar to the assail/weave build I ran recently before I started messing around with bubble shield.

[static needle]

im not using that extra toughness node then

[hot zephyr]

My only other advice is try not to get too focused on killing the DD marked target, since you get more stacks from weak spot kills

[icy wyvern]

idk guys I think I'm getting a lot more utility outta rending/flurry than blaze/nexus

[shadow wigeon]

I would expect that, yes

[icy wyvern]

guaranteed brittleness stacks vs percentage chance soulblaze stacks

[shadow wigeon]

Blaze/Nexus is good, but you have to lean in to it quite a lot. Flurry/Rending is strong, reliable - if it does not work you can hit him with it.

[plush jacinth]

i cant get any good rolls on anything that isnt a firearm. why does the emperor want me to become a gun psyker so much?

my vet would blow up cadia (again) for rolls like these

[shadow wigeon]

Illegal number of 80's reported

[shadow wigeon]

Surge is the easiest staff to roll max, if you just want a staff any staff.

[plush jacinth]

ill try, been tryna get a wfire trauma and a god roll void for so long

since i hate my amazingly rolled rending trauma for whatever reason

[lethal lagoon]

Surge has like 5 blessings, 1 of which is t2 only. Which makes it super rare on 350+ weapons
For perks you just need Flak, the second one literally doesn't matter.
That means for a great surge staff, all you need to do is roll either flurry or nexus.
Then you just change one blessing and one perk to flak.

[plush jacinth]

ill keep these in mind, cheers

[lethal lagoon]

Best part about surge, is it's a brain-off weapon. So you can focus on your general game and psyker skills. It's a great way to get better at the game.

[plush jacinth]

also i dont know laspistol rolls if its amazing or not. (doesnt look like it from a glance)

[lethal lagoon]

DumDum is the blessing you want.

The second one honestly doesn't matter, but most people like infernous.

Weakspot does nothing, so you wanna change that to unyielding or flak.

[plush jacinth]

also cant tell if i want my voidstaff to have nexus + surge OR nexus + flurry.

ideally ill be able to swap them on the same staff whenever but i doubt ill get that lucky

[lethal lagoon]

Nexus + Surge is the clear winner. Some people like Surge + Quell or Surge + Flurry with true aim as their main source of crits.

Only reason not to use surge is if you just don't have it.

Nexus is common enough, shouldn't take too many tries to get a staff with Nexus tier 3/4. And then you just pop Surge on there.

[plush jacinth]

right on

first let me fix this

[winter otter]

Hello fellow warp enthusiasts; in your opinions, which is the best staff for general use?

[harsh urchin]

Dumdum and 2 correct perks is more important than the second blessing

[bitter veldt]

General use is probably voidstrike.

[lethal lagoon]

Voidstrike without Surge blessing is super mid though

[bitter veldt]

it can be used for anything, but isn't the best at anything either

[lethal lagoon]

If someone's a new psyker, surge staff all the way.

Easy to use, easy to roll, super fast casting.

High peril gen for toughness talents.

And for flaming shriek spam

[bitter veldt]

I see more surge staffers blow themselves up than anything else tho

[lethal lagoon]

Even if that's the case, well, that's how you learn lmao.

[feral verge]

i got that gucci drip

[viscid matrix]

Eh you paid for it, so meh

[feral verge]

for the model, yeah

skin, no

[bleak tulip]

thats the whole point of gucci

[feral verge]

skin is mod

[long stone]

What headhunter rifle do you guys recommend for gun psyker

[vestal fulcrum]

Vraks 3, definitely

[atomic mulch]

does giuluius thrice blessed's helmet modulate the voice lines?

as in give it that vox-like sound

[wicked hornet]

is this a decent trauma staff?

got as a reward

[lethal lagoon]

Transfer peril to nexus, and yeah, pretty decent flame staff.

[strong gulch]

Yeah. Swap transfer peril to warp nexus, and one of the perks to flak.

[lethal lagoon]

For flame staff, 5% crit is more important I'd say

[inland glen]

[inland glen]

My extreme amount of charismatic rizz

[wheat tulip]

I just played another round and dropped it atleast a dozen times, alot just in those rooms where you have to wait for everyone. I think the real issue is I haven't learned to stack it fast enough. If I stack 15 in 30 seconds who cares about dropping it I'll be back to max soon enough it won't really matter

[static needle]

Is either knife worse than DS4? lets discuss

[plush jacinth]

ah, finally melk is selling t4 nexus surge

[feral verge]

nothing to discuss

they are both worse

by far

ds4 is one of the best overall weps in the game

knife is one of the worst/mid

[viscid matrix]

Ds4 can 1 tap muties and 2tap crushers
Nothing to discuss, knife just worse

[spice veldt]

haymaker shenanigans is where I could see knife winning

[plush jacinth]

now i have a pretty good surge yipee

[lethal lagoon]

Being able to zoom-zoom as a squishy psyker is the most important.

Yeah, just change stamina to flak and

[lunar hollow]

it doesn't really have enough cleave to significantly change anything

[lethal lagoon]

The new knife does no?

[viscid matrix]

Nah crit or unyielding, it already kills most flak in 1 hit

[spice veldt]

funny rager/mauler/mutant oneshots on sheer chance

[lunar hollow]

its too RNG dependent to make it actually good

[spice veldt]

i assume that none of the knife attacks are uninterruptibllle

[lethal lagoon]

It absolutely does not.

Flak is so meta on surge using anything else is just objectively wrong.

[lunar hollow]

if it could reliably hit more elites per swing than a ds maybe but i dont think the mk6 has enough cleave to

also getting more than 2 haymaker procs in a swing on elites is basically impossible on an ogryn club and im p sure its horizontal heavies have higher cleave than the mk6

[rapid plinth]

Yall know any build guides? I’m new to the Warhammer games and have no idea what I’m doing, I watched stuff on how to play and I’ve been doing well in actual gameplay but I have no idea how to build

Level 17 rn

[feral verge]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959

[spice veldt]

big number good and it's fairly hard to path into a strictly bad build nowadays

what weapons and playstyles do you like

[lunar hollow]

make a build u like and then post it here and ask for advice on it is what i would do

[feral verge]

hit inspect in the mourning star

[rapid plinth]

I rly like the Deimos Mk4 blaze sword

[feral verge]

and you will see

all the strictly bad builds

[spice veldt]

i don't like to inflict suffering on myself

[rapid plinth]

The Kantrael MG X11 Lasgun is fun

[untold widget]

Ok, I'm done with DnD. What are we fighting about this time?

[feral verge]

you willingly play with josho

[spice veldt]

i can fix him

[lunar hollow]

uncalled for

WTF

[feral verge]

lmfao

[rapid plinth]

I like assail and brain burst, only reason I don’t use brain burst rn is cause how slow it is

[lethal lagoon]

Try BB with the 2 shield charges.

[rapid plinth]

BB?

[fading depot]

I run BB with shriek

brain burst

[feral verge]

BB stands for brain burst

[lethal lagoon]

BB is the old name for brain rupture.

[rapid plinth]

Ohh

[lethal lagoon]

I refuse to call it anything else

[rapid plinth]

I didn’t know it was changed to rupture

I’ve just called it burst

I use the shield rn w the opposite side upgraded, is that not the good side?

[lethal lagoon]

No it's great.

Just for a BB build, it's fun to have 2 back to back buffs.

[rapid plinth]

Oh okay

So non speherical is it just a wall?

[lethal lagoon]

Wall.

Pop it right in front of a gunner/shotgunner pack, and just go off.

[ornate hamlet]

Fr

[lethal lagoon]

It's definitely not optimal, but sometimes you wanna be an old psyker.

[rapid plinth]

How come? Isn’t it single target?

[strong gulch]

Upgraded wall can stop specials.

[rapid plinth]

With a slow cast time

[lethal lagoon]

How come? to what?

I don't understand

[rapid plinth]

You said in front of a pack, but isn’t bb a slow cast time single target ability?

[plucky perch]

two things, fastest cast time of the staps, hit scan with VERY loose lock on crits can reliably one shot a considerable amount of specials and eleites ect and can snap out uncharged shots dealing enough damage and consistently enough to clear gunner packs as quick as a vet almost

[lethal lagoon]

Pop the shield in front of a pack, BB 3-4 elites in that pack.

All burn to death

[plucky perch]

it might be the worst staff but only by a bit

[lethal lagoon]

As I said, BB isn't optimal, but sometimes you wanna use it.

[rapid plinth]

Oh okay

Btw if I Reset all, is that limited

I’ve never reset anything I don’t think

[plucky perch]

for talents?

no you can reset add or take away talents freely

[rapid plinth]

Oh okay

[plush jacinth]

Kinetic Resonance is good w/ shield pop

[static needle]

Then why is it the bomb on zealot?

[rapid plinth]

Can I send a video of my talent tree?

[feral verge]

it's not

[cerulean lily]

Sorry if im way late on this but did they do something to the audio on the pox bursters? Can barely hear them sometimes

[lethal lagoon]

It's been that way for a few patches

Sometimes they just make no noise flat out.

[cerulean lily]

Dang. Hadn’t noticed it so much till the last few days

[feral verge]

knife is bad-mid on all classes. there are very few players who can actually make decent value out of it. even then, if they can be 'good' w ith knife, then they will be amazing with literally any other weapon

[cerulean lily]

Oh well

[feral verge]

most of the "pros" on here will tell you how mid knife is

[lethal lagoon]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

[feral verge]

it is definitely not bomb

[lethal lagoon]

Also, I posted a BB build here, if you wanna roll it #1158835513789272126 message

[strong gulch]

@rapid plinth Kinetic Resonance makes BB faster and cost less peril.

Perilous Combustion, aka PC, causes things to stack soulblaze on special and elite kills.

[rotund fable]

11k dockets, in the shop right now. good sword or bad? (i dont normally use deimos)

[plucky perch]

warp resistance is a bit low

[feral verge]

that is decent

what

lmfao

[plucky perch]

but not terrible till you find somehting better

[feral verge]

warp resistance is the dump stat

[lethal lagoon]

Warp resit being low is generally good.

[strong gulch]

Warp resis is fine

[feral verge]

the first target damage stat is the issue

[plucky perch]

doesnt warp resistance MASSIVELY effect charge cost?

[feral verge]

not warp resist

[lethal lagoon]

Yes 🙂

[feral verge]

you shouldnt be charging deimos that often anyway

[lethal lagoon]

That's good for swords generally speaking.

[plucky perch]

AHHHHHHHH

[feral verge]

having low warp resistance can be very very good for getting high peril for max damage

[lethal lagoon]

More peril on swords = more damage and more toughness, plus flaming shriek

[plucky perch]

im the thinking the illisis where your spamming it into the hord back to back and i like chain spaming that speciual

nod nods i getcha

[untold widget]

Charge once, hit weak spot to get your 4 uncanny stacks and some peril for Warp Rider, and then L1 H2 everything to death

[lethal lagoon]

Even at low warp resit I never really run out spamming it into a horde :

[strong gulch]

Warp rider plus not being able to quickly chain deimos speacial = lower warp resist is gernaly your go to.

[plucky perch]

i.. some times have to tank for the team even when not playing as an oggy bbecause my other three teams mates two of witch are some times zealouts forgot melle exists

sooo i rely on spaming near endlessly from time to time

[lethal lagoon]

Flaming shriek is your buddy then

[plucky perch]

its great but shield is mah love

[strong gulch]

Deimos special also isn't typlically use all that much, even with being able to dodge out of it now.

[static needle]

Is DS5 ever worth running? Like, for what kind of build would you use that one instead of mk 4?

[rapid plinth]

Made it and saved my hike

Build

Do I jsut post the link here

[spice veldt]

if you like the animations more than the ~40% damage that you're missing out on compared to the mk4

[rapid plinth]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

[strong gulch]

If you like the move set, it's worth running. If you just want damage or efficiency, then no.

[spice veldt]

(don't look at the mk5's carapace ADMs)

[rapid plinth]

Oh no that didn’t work

[plucky perch]

i can NEVER remember the dual sword marks or names

[spice veldt]

they are in my memory as part of my mission to make sure that people know that mk4 is the best

[strong gulch]

Mk 4 has the chained heavy pokes.

[spice veldt]

mk2 has the sweeping second heavy, and mk5 has the cool strikedowns

and mk4 is what everyone uses

[strong gulch]

yip

[lethal lagoon]

Take a screenshot or use "save build"

Give it a random name

[static needle]

bruh why cant they balance for shit

[plucky perch]

i think i used mk 5 for a beat because i got good at leveling the seaping assasin chain into horde nogging

wouldnt be suprised if its inferior though

[static needle]

is deimos better at killing crushers?

[plucky perch]

YEP

[static needle]

than DS4?

[plucky perch]

ooh then the other force swords yes

then the stabby dualing sword no clue

[strong gulch]

IDK. With everyone using the MK 4. It's only a matter of time before the other swords are adjusted. When will that be?? Could be next patch or in 2 years.

[rapid plinth]

Level 17

btw Idfk what I’m doing

[plucky perch]

soooo... i managed to put together a friggin memey smite blitz ability that can actualy clear most of a massive hyper dense horde in the time it takes to fill your peril gage once not stun but outright kill chagge some times bruisers if their early enough in the chain and a number of ranged chaffe too.... its so stupid but so fun

[untold widget]

what weapons you running?

[lethal lagoon]

Assail is good for leveling. Just bring a revolver for armored bois.

[plucky perch]

with out relying on empowered spionic charges

[rapid plinth]

Idk how to get better % on weapons

Just ran w the first ones I found from missions w a good rarity

Or whatever it is

[strong gulch]

As you level, you will gain access to higher rated gear.

[static needle]

is there a catalogue of finesse values for weapons anywhere?

[strong gulch]

Before 30 it's you get what you get.

[rapid plinth]

Oh and here’s a staff I used to use but ion really care for staves

Oh okay

[strong gulch]

Some weapons are doo doo until you can basically max roll it.

[shadow wigeon]

For Surge, you only really need to roll one perk. If your first blessing is not nexus4/flurry4/terrifying barrage, just re-roll it to terrifying barage, and you're almost guaranteed nexus/flury, and you can reroll the second perk.

[spice veldt]

looks fine; only that i'd personally grab more toughness regen nodes but that'll come when you have points to spare

[strong gulch]

That was my thought too. Could change to quietude.

[rapid plinth]

Where should I find a brainbirts and assail? I like assail for missions but a lot of these quest for clothes require brain

Build*

Brain burst and assail build

[plucky perch]

trash opinion i know but i kinda likle terrifyingbarrage on trauma and purgautus

[lethal lagoon]

Those penances are easier to do at 30 or on special condition missions and stuff.

[rapid plinth]

Oh okay

[lethal lagoon]

Here's what I'd for your build. But at 17 it's not a big deal either way.

[rapid plinth]

Works for me

Worth trying to do the special mission? I usually do fine (mostly) myself but during the final boss a pretty common thing is for 1-2 teammates to spam going down

[lethal lagoon]

Do it if it's fun 🤷‍♂️

[rapid plinth]

Should I try and find people for it

[lethal lagoon]

Same answer 😆

[rapid plinth]

I enjoy the mission, just not the very final stage of the last fight when everyone starts going down and I’m suddenly by myself

Okay

😂

[viscid matrix]

try to leave penances for when you have a squad who knows you are doing the penances, it feels terrible when people go for pennances without saying anything and then they start going down cause they keep trying instead of pulling out their other weapons and playing properly

[robust sierra]

should I get this for nexus 4?

I have 7k melkbux

[feral verge]

yes

you can make a soulblaze trauma with warp nexus

or you can make a lmb spam build with it too

[robust sierra]

this is my current

eventually I'll get a better roll

[robust sierra]

so yeah buy melk and earn?

[feral verge]

yes

[robust sierra]

ok cheers

[clear heath]

I just spent like 2 hours selling stuff in my inventories for all 4 characters

feels good having a clean inventory now

I'm also like 2 million ordo dockets richer

[strong gulch]

Noice

[violet oak]

[strong gulch]

The adulting and executive functioning required to clean out inventory is too much for me. 🥲

[lethal lagoon]

I'm geniunely envious of you.

[untold widget]

That's why anything I get that's better than what I have replaces it. I've only got 5-6 things in each category at a time. Except curios

[ornate hamlet]

My man had 2 million dockets worth of inventory trash

[clear heath]

it was probably like 300-400 weapons sold

I generally don't bother checking what i get from emperor's gift

had to look through each one

[iron goblet]

Hey, quick q

I'm kinda new to DT

Lv20 Psyker is my 1st toon.

Just wondering. Is Assail frowned upon? I've been using it to level

Was thinking of turning into a brain bursting / voidstriking type build after hitting 30. But assail seems pretty good for leveling?

[old oyster]

for a lvlig yes , for hard mode 50/50

[azure bridge]

do rending or brittleness affect soulfire dot damage?

[spice veldt]

ye

soulblaze armour damage modifiers are somewhere in pygex's guide

[keen vale]

Sanity-check my build. I haven't played Psyker in 4+ months. 😵‍💫
Blaze Force Sword: self-defense against trash mobs.
Surge Force Staff: ranged attacks + stunlock for teammates to finish off.
Brainburst: Elite killer.
Bubble shield because I like my teammates and enjoy giving them protection.
Empowered Psionics keystone that triggers on elite kill: I kill one elite, means I can brainburst the rest of the pack at a discount.
Overarching idea: I remain at the center of my team and provide support to make their work easier. I have something to rapidly end carapace enemies, and I have something to repel direct attacks without feeling helpless.

[bleak tulip]

surge staff is actually damage now and fairly little stun

[lethal lagoon]

"Blaze" force sword has never been good.
Surge staff is now rapid fire single target damage and stuns 2 targets.
BB is super mid and doesn't pair well with surge anyways.

[bleak tulip]

if you wanna be a CC bot and hope your team kills shit for you use smite but I wouldnt recommend going in with that mindset

also theyre all called "blaze"

use the first name

[neat summit]

Deimos. Illisi. Obscurcrapus

[keen vale]

Right now I've got an Illisi - I most likely got it at the time because it does wide sweeping attacks
Hmm. Since surge staff is more for damage maybe I could use that to wipe out trash mobs and then get the stragglers with my melee once I max my peril.
I'm 99% sure I wanna keep the bubble shield. I was super happy when teammate psykers used it.
The blitz gives me pause. Tried Assail, wasn't a fan. Smite was very much a CC thing, it's a maybe. BB is "the devil I know".

[neat summit]

Assail isn’t bad for clearing distant shooters

Hwhich is always nice

[bleak tulip]

with shield assail is probably the only one I'd run

[shell maple]

4 Smite Psykers can clear any content bar Special Assignment

[bleak tulip]

smite is pretty dog without vent

[keen vale]

I'm attracted to BB because it ignores carapace. Knowing myself, I tend to zero in on elites at the expense of everything else.
I could always lose the staff and get a gun of any sort to ping faraway foes. Though, not gonna lie, I feel personally offended at the idea of being a psyker and not using a staff of some sort! 😛

[bleak tulip]

last I checked BB still takes like 3 casts to kill crushers so its not particularily great

even if you go EP which I also wouldnt recommend personally

I'd rather buff all my tools than just one

[keen vale]

If not EP, then WS?

[bleak tulip]

yeah WS is kind of the all rounder

[cloud heron]

So does anyone consider the changes to fire to actually be a nerf? I feel like it's so much more dangerous now

[keen vale]

So that's reduction on the bubble, which can be nice.
If I take Assail and use it mostly on faraway enemies, that'd mean I take it out on an as-needed basis, so it makes the gameplay a bit "simpler" in my mind.
Maybe a purgation staff then, to milk soulblaze? One possibility anyway.

[bleak tulip]

you can get out of it now before losing all your toughness so thats definitely better

[spice veldt]

fire is pretty nice nowadays now they tuned the damage down

it's a W for toughness stackers

[cloud heron]

I feel like I just never really had this issue though. When I did lose my toughness, getting it back wasn't that big of a deal

but now like if i'm backpedaling from a boss and walk into some fire I didnt know was there, I'm going to lose like half of my health

[spice veldt]

it makes it a lot better for being aggressive into fire and not having to play overly conservative in case the flamer glances at your direction and strps all of your toughness

[bleak tulip]

it ticks slower now so that might just be a feel you have

[cloud heron]

the initial change I would just die. Health still gets shredded

[spice veldt]

so fucking annoying to lose all of my toughness because a flamer shot me once

[bleak tulip]

walk into a little candle sized fire

all toughness gone

idk since the change I have taken very little fire damage because I am a toughness gamer

[cloud heron]

I dunno, I just feel like that wasn't that big of a deal in the grand scheme

I also stack toughness curios but still don't like the change

[spice veldt]

yeah it's not a big deal esp nowadays since you can just dps check specials nowadays

but I much prefer the change

[bleak tulip]

it was quite annoying to the point where some weirdos straight up triple stacked health because of it

before the change

I think the change is nice

also the barrel fire not touching toughness at all

very nice

you can also just jump through that shit

[harsh urchin]

Fire does too little dmg now tbh

Its so unthreathening

[bleak tulip]

I like it

[spice veldt]

buff flamers to throw out more fire probably

and mixed threats will make fire more of a bigger deal

[bleak tulip]

they already piss out like 20m streaks of the stuff

[spice veldt]

fire being unthreatening on its own is par for the course

flamers are pretty tame esp since you can just stagger them out fo their volley

[bleak tulip]

no special is threatening on its own yeah

[wraith talon]

Maybe make it so that they sweep the area with it

[spice veldt]

i'd buff their stagger resistance and reduce their melee weakness

[wraith talon]

Bc they only shoot in a single line and it’s kinda easy to dodge

[bleak tulip]

they do follow you

[wraith talon]

Wait wha

[bleak tulip]

pretty sure

[wraith talon]

I’m always able to just side dodge and rush them

[spice veldt]

yeah they just turn slowly

[bleak tulip]

at least scabs turn after you

[wraith talon]

Maybe their aggro is just weird

[prime wyvern]

weird i just got cliffhanger penance by killing a bunch of enemies climbing a fence

[wraith talon]

And they instantly tunnel on someone else as soon as you dodge

[wraith talon]

best feeling in the world ngl

[keen vale]

Alright, I put something together. Now to test it in a mission and see how that fares.

[wraith talon]

Ngl I wish the meat grinder let you actually simulate combat

instead of having to go into a match just to test your build

[bleak tulip]

good move not to post it here because weirdos (me) will endlessly deliberate over how optimal it is

[cloud heron]

creature spawner mod

[wraith talon]

born to kill heretics, forced to min/max

[wraith talon]

There’s so many mods that look cool as hell but I’m on xbox 😓

[keen vale]

I've played enough Destiny 2 to prioritize power fantasy and feeling amazing over min-maxing builds. 😁

[hasty spear]

what perks are wanted on force swords?

[bleak tulip]

uncanny, slaughterer on illisi

uncanny is just a safe bet for basically all melee weapons tbh

[hasty spear]

what about deimos?

[bleak tulip]

idk maybe unstable as second blessing

[hasty spear]

have these two so was wondering what should be done

[bleak tulip]

both good, first one only really if you like deflector tho since elites isnt that great

warp resist is pointless on deimos and mobility matters very little since they basically always get 5 dodges

and the dodge distance is pretty unnoticable imo

[static needle]

Guessing maniac should be the 2nd perk on this?

this is for a gunpsyker/assail/scrier's build

[pale pilot]

honestly i think the solution to fire is what the ai director is already doing

layering specials in annoying configurations

the bomber and flamer are right bastards even with the fire damage reduction and the ability to toughness tank them if you're having to deal with other shit while they're pelting you

[unkempt belfry]

Is there a reason to not go uncanny strike and exorcist on deimos for a scryers gaze. Haven't tried anything else yet

[wraith talon]

same tho

it just feels awesome literally being palpatine

[unkempt belfry]

Atlesst d2 has d2itempicker:^)

[untold widget]

Uncanny deflector is what I run, works perfectly fine

[wraith talon]

true tho

Only time I die to flamers or bombers is because a dog pack or a mutie surprised me

[wraith talon]

And then they proceed to fry me alive

[pale pilot]

or trapper decides "Actually how about i drop you in that incendiary grenade"

[potent echo]

Psyker update when

[unkempt belfry]

Any other perks people like on deimos? Not sure how the other damage perks perform, the soul blaze one seems nice but also very overkill for horde cleaning.

[potent echo]

Perks or blessings?

[unkempt belfry]

Oooh right, blessings

[wraith talon]

ngl I wish psyker got a buff

[unkempt belfry]

I keep getting the terms mixed up 💀

[wraith talon]

The bottom perks are way too anti-teamwork based

[potent echo]

Uncanny + whatever is fine

[hot zephyr]

Yeah I'd go maniacs on that to stop mutants and flamers. You should be able to potentially one burst flamers with that.

[wraith talon]

Half of the time I can’t even get enough warp charges on diff lvl 4 bc the specialists get mopped up

[unkempt belfry]

Warp charges can give more bubbles, EP can give better smite I guess?

Most classes are all self sufficient buffs on the last except for ogryn taunt and vet mark

[potent echo]

Oh yea @static needle how's the void assail doing

[static needle]

not so well.... but void SMITE is doing just fine!!

3 health curios with this. rlly nice tbh

psykinetics aura to get cooldown of vent by almost 50% a lot of the time

[potent echo]

Yea that talent is sick

[static needle]

so that way vent can fill the same roll as assail

[potent echo]

You can take cdr aura for even more cdr

Better than 5% elite 😔

[static needle]

i just noticed tho, my latest game just now was the first game ive been signicantly outdamaged

[potent echo]

Lmao that psyker

I assume he is using gun or void

[static needle]

eh, the tradeoff is that i dont need to get emphatic evasion which is way less good on a staff and instead I get the 5% damage without having to spend an extra point

i use that extra point for more toughness so I can run 3 health curios

pretty nice tbh

with competent killing teammates, can you even all that easily reach 600k+ damage with your build? @potent echo Im guessing yes because assail helps a lot with dmg

[rapid plinth]

Wait you can see team stats?

How tf did u do that

[static needle]

mods

[rapid plinth]

Oh ):

[potent echo]

I think void itself just shits out damage if you are hordeclear duty

[static needle]

hmm

[cloud heron]

fatshark has been able to offload a lot of basic features onto mods. Hopefully xbox changes that

[potent echo]

Which is why I ask what the other pub psyker was running

[static needle]

dont rlly remember

oh yes

purgatus

[open pike]

It doesn't help the only node exclusive to the 5% damage aura is Unlucky which is oof

[potent echo]

Huh purg 700k geez

[static needle]

and BB i think

[potent echo]

Was the mission like 40min long or smth

[static needle]

it was an auric maelstrom

[potent echo]

Yea no one takes that

Oh, melee only?

[cloud heron]

purge is great. Everyone goes right for the darth vader RP build and skips over a lot pf psyker's best stuff

[rapid plinth]

What’s a fast way to level up?

Solo player, Idfk how to look for decent teams

[static needle]

nope, hounds, specialists, mutants, and 20% ability CDR

[cloud heron]

There's not really any trick to it, unless it turns out the new mission is really efficient for XP or something

just gotta play the game

[static needle]

when leveling, just play the game to get accustomed to it, then you can powerlevel by getting carried in higher difficulties

[rapid plinth]

Is it worth doing higher difficulty missions solo

[cloud heron]

Solo? No

[static needle]

absolutely not

[rapid plinth]

Well not solo but

With randoms

[potent echo]

Damn that psyker probably really knows what's up top lessers top elite kills

[rapid plinth]

Idk I play league so I think solo as solo Q

So like

[cloud heron]

everything in the game is doable with randoms

[rapid plinth]

Random teammates

Oh okay

[potent echo]

Yea just play damnation

[rapid plinth]

My experience w randoms is dog

[potent echo]

If you win your rewards are so much higher

Also you force yourself to gitgud

[static needle]

this is one of my highest dmg games, gunker rocks

[untold widget]

only gold, mats are the same

and xp I guess

[idle bay]

What Melk Brought today.

[potent echo]

No mats are higher

I think you are comparing auric to normal

[open pike]

Melk has been screwin with me for days

No tier 4 blessings on anything to rip off

[untold widget]

yeah, isn't that what we're comparing?

[potent echo]

Uh he said he's levelling so I assume not

[untold widget]

oh shit

[cloud heron]

Going to have a dead slot. Unless you just wanted rending shockwave

[untold widget]

that's what I get for not reading

[static needle]

manz stumbled into a convo he thought he knew the topic of xD

it do happen ;=)

[potent echo]

I do that all the time

[idle bay]

i mean it's 380 from Melk which is unusual (with bad charge rate). Anythging else there - meh...

[untold widget]

Just got done watching my favorite christmas movie

now I feel like playing thammer zealot

[static needle]

what

[untold widget]

Violent Night

[static needle]

nice haha

[untold widget]

Gonna make a zealot named NikomundTheRed

[cloud heron]

if you just had a better perk or warp flurry instead of transfer peril, it would pretty fantastic

67% charge rate isn't going to kill you

[idle bay]

The only Trauma is SoulBlaze Trauma and this speciment is already Bricked for it 🙂

[potent echo]

I wouldn't buy it

You can probably make a better one by rolling in brunt

[kindred ivy]

about voidstirke beeing better at clearning hordes

uhh

yeha that's a lie

[potent echo]

Better than(?)

[kindred ivy]

mf couldnt get out of one of the corner rooms in har deriko

better than smite