One way to sharpen a knife
#psyker-class
near wyvern
Talking about assail RMB here
signal cave
Talking about assail RMB here
don't even need it at damn aurics
echo turtle
@near wyvern can you post the build you used in that video? I'm pretty sure I know how to set it up but I don't want to miss something that is less obvious a take not having g played it
signal cave
Can even carry with it in damn aurics
near wyvern
<@345531303942291457> can you post the build you used in that video? I'm pretty ...
It's in the beginning of the video, check timeline timestamps on YouTube
orchid nest
iirc he takes 1 pt in DD and goes shriek and aura coherency talent
signal cave
no current meta to keep up with zealots?
signal cave
well, you play with randoms..
near wyvern
are you quell cancelling your assails lmb
Always
glossy ember
damn
echo turtle
It's in the beginning of the video, check timeline timestamps on YouTube
Just a lil point in DD interesting
near wyvern
Prevents you from doing a weapon swap too early wasting an EP or true aim stack
signal cave
i can't get the hang of assail cancelling
Like how the movement talent slows you down quelling swords or assails? but not staff?? 
near wyvern
Cause if you weapon swap too fast you will consume EP/True Aim but get no peril and no shard consumed
glossy ember
Like how the movement talent slows you down quelling swords or assails? but not ...
wait what 
signal cave
wait what <:hmm:1048683783408328905>
near wyvern
i can't get the hang of assail cancelling
You are better off doing the quell cancel a tad bit later than sooner
echo turtle
15second decay on DD is a true Chad build
near wyvern
Just practice the timing
signal cave
near wyvern
15second decay on DD is a true Chad build
Only 1 point in DD is the pro gamer move
echo turtle
Honestly
orchid nest
1 point in DD can be pretty good, you're using it more for its initial on proc things at that point though like the movespeed and all that
echo turtle
I always take the second point, it's a skill issue but I drop stacks otherwise
orchid nest
and information
near wyvern
I always take the second point, it's a skill issue but I drop stacks otherwise
You will drop stacks even with it so why bother
echo turtle
Eh true enough
near wyvern
"lights out" not for meeee
glossy ember
oh wow
orchid nest
3 points in it and 1 point are both viable, it is easier to 1 point it for sure though if you have to cross over the tree for vent
signal cave
with the electric staff i even feel like the assail is use less, just use a power sword for hordes & brain burst useless with the movement talent on the other side of the talent tree
near wyvern
rmb assail keeps locking on even if you look up from locking on the mob
Yeah it always travels first in a straight line and then locks so you can use it to open a bulwark by throwing past him and curving it to the back of their head. Works 50% of the time.
hearty oak
best dd setup
Take the point from quelling on kills and you have a good gunker build
orchid nest
rmb assail keeps locking on even if you look up from locking on the mob
yeah this is what I was saying, you can use it and hide like bb if you're dealing with a bunch of annoying entrenched gunners and can't afford to stand in the open for the flight time of the left click shards
near wyvern
best dd setup
Why the fuck do you take quell on DD kill. That proc rate has more holes than my mother's swiss cheese.
echo turtle
Yeah it's a waste of a point
glossy ember
ur mom makes swiss cheese?
signal cave
Why the fuck do you take quell on DD kill. That proc rate has more holes than my...
You even gunner resistance?
quasi junco
Why the fuck do you take quell on DD kill. That proc rate has more holes than my...
lol try I guess I could use something else
echo turtle
If it was a 100% chance it would be good
quasi junco
true*
echo turtle
There are better takes elsewhere
hearty oak
If it was a 100% chance it would be good
35% would probably be my max. maybe 50
glossy ember
oh okay that's pretty funny
echo turtle
It should be 10% quell on every DD kill
glossy ember
if you rmb aim at a bulwark then look straight up, the assail bolt will hit behind the shield
orchid nest
you can open bulwarks up with the left click too, although it seems less reliable than it used to be
hearty oak
It should be 10% quell on every DD kill
If that was the case, scriers would even greater on gunker. I always chase 'blues' and if i got 10% for each one, scriers would just have WAY higher yield
gusty furnace
https://tenor.com/view/astartes-warhammer40k-spacemarine-armour-laser-gif-175663...
Ogryn gameplay in real time
signal cave
Ogryn gameplay in real time
Or getting kicked for leaving co-heresy as zealot.
echo turtle
If that was the case, scriers would even greater on gunker. I always chase 'blue...
It wouldn't be that much higher, but abilities should synergize and talents shouldn't be useless
orchid nest
check this out
Lol yeah, that is a bit extreme of an angle though, you can get it to work at a much more reasonable like 45 degree angle or something
gusty furnace
Or getting kicked for leaving co-heresy as zealot.
I only auric damnation qp 
gusty furnace
I can't speak to the player experience in any of the other difficulties
echo turtle
Until you run aurics build efficiency doesn't matter
near wyvern
I got the new revolver to work. It's extremely good... As a stat stick for EP Assails
gusty furnace
everyone seems super chill in auric qp
gusty furnace
I haven't had a bad experience since patch 13 dropped
compact bluff
if you rmb aim at a bulwark then look straight up, the assail bolt will hit behi...
you can get a faster and slightly more reliable bulwark open by bouncing it off the ground instead, only works when kinda close though
gusty furnace
https://tenor.com/view/randy-quaid-whiskey-pilot-drinking-gif-15160583
Uh
I have 1550 hours
Nothing else is really fun for me
hearty oak
It wouldn't be that much higher, but abilities should synergize and talents shou...
Yeah fatshark has a bunch of those talents that are a step away from being on par with their opposite or just disgusting
echo turtle
I've had some, literally had a guy mocking me for running gunker in a game
gusty furnace
the difficulty of carrying randoms through auric QP is the only dopamine for me
its fun being big man protecting little people
echo turtle
Meanwhile I had 30% more damage than he did
tulip trench
and how does deimos stack up to dueling mk4
tulip trench
dam really?
hearty oak
yeah
gusty furnace
Yeah. . .
echo turtle
It's not tho
gusty furnace
dueling swords got way over buffed
tulip trench
the charged attack cant deal with carapace?
gusty furnace
the charged attack cant deal with carapace?
Oh, it can.
hearty oak
No
gusty furnace
The whole weapon is fine.
Its just that dueling swords are objectively better in every circumstance
feral verge
@icekrystal if you are in here, im sorry our teamates were clinically braindead
gusty furnace
because they're blatantly overpowered
orchid nest
I like deimos. DS4 is definitely more offensive but deimos has nice utility and is going to be a lot easier to use for someone new
echo turtle
dueling swords got way over buffed
Deimos has better control than the DS, the H2 is on par for damage if not higher
hearty oak
The rate at which an uncanny dueling sword can go, it puts it to shame
echo turtle
Slaughterer/uncanny deimos gets insane
DS4 is wild too, but the deimos is better equipped to deal with ragers and crusher packs
near wyvern
in every single way
What the fuck is this herecy
untold widget
special stab fucks ragers up though
near wyvern
You can one shot mutants with a regular H2
tulip trench
my only concern with deimos, is the special attack animation locking you in place
then you get swarmed with ragers, maulers
echo turtle
The force push into H2 on deimos makes it extremely good
signal cave
groaners to flak
light armor to some of that power punch
echo turtle
my only concern with deimos, is the special attack animation locking you in plac...
Don't charge the deimos like, ever
orchid nest
The force push into H2 on deimos makes it extremely good
another push into H2 enjoyer, I never see anyone else doing this
echo turtle
You force push into H2
signal cave
gusty furnace
What the fuck is this herecy
Heresy? Its objectively true
echo turtle
another push into H2 enjoyer, I never see anyone else doing this
Because it takes skill lol
hearty oak
my only concern with deimos, is the special attack animation locking you in plac...
Then dont do it in the pack of ragers or crushers 
untold widget
only once, in the beginning, to get 4 stacks of uncanny
gusty furnace
Dueling Swords completely outclass the deimos now.
untold widget
the only time I ever charge
gusty furnace
Its not even a contest
near wyvern
Heresy? Its objectively true
Ok do this with a Duelling Sword then homie
Do it BETTER
echo turtle
Deimos force push into H2, I practiced in the grinder fighting 8 ragers, and 6 crushers
gusty furnace
Ok do this with a Duelling Sword then homie
https://youtu.be/6v6uUZI6T5c
Clearly you're not aware that dueling sword can oneshot mutants too
and doesn't need a combo
echo turtle
GL doing that with a duely
gusty furnace
just heavy attack
orchid nest
Because it takes skill lol
yeah I guess so. I think they only know about L1 into it too though, no one ever talks about push or push attack into H2 it feels like. actually this is the first time I have even seen it mentioned here outside of myself saying it
gusty furnace
you can also stop muties in their tracks with the special
you can stop crushers with a chest shot on the special
feral verge
Ok do this with a Duelling Sword then homie
https://youtu.be/6v6uUZI6T5c
i prefer and love deimos
gusty furnace
regardless of attack
feral verge
but dueling s word can one shot muties too
echo turtle
yeah I guess so. I think they only know about L1 into it too though, no one ever...
Dude I felt the same way when I figured that out. My immediate reaction was "why the fuck is no one talking about this"
gusty furnace
dueling sword is just objectively better than deimos in every single way
near wyvern
just heavy attack
Except you need to get some buffs first to get it going, Deimos doesn't need that, ready to go 100% reliable
echo turtle
Except you need to get some buffs first to get it going, Deimos doesn't need tha...
Deimos can get better buffs too
gusty furnace
Except you need to get some buffs first to get it going, Deimos doesn't need tha...
If you don't have ANY psyker stacks up 24/7, you're playing terribly
and that's a skill issue
not a weapon issue
echo turtle
I think I was two tapping crushers with the deimos buffed all the way ip
near wyvern
Deimos can get better buffs too
This as well
echo turtle
A deimos with warp charges, uncanny and slaught does more damage than the DS4 strike
While also dropping crushers to the ground on a weakspot it
near wyvern
Also force sword push spam makes escorting battery carriers trivial
People just don't know that exists
echo turtle
The force push floors ragers, pushes bursters from 12m away and can stop a crusher mid overhead. A second force push can floor said crusher
orchid nest
the only thing you need to know about how insane deimos H2 stagger potential is, is that it can knock one of the new twin bosses to the ground
echo turtle
Yeah, the deimos is extremely good. DS is fast but lacks the control the deimos has
Deimos with push / h2s can control a rager pack, DS4 cannot
glossy ember
uh i thought scrier stacks didn't apply during scrier
echo turtle
They do
untold widget
Deimos with push / h2s can control a rager pack, DS4 cannot
special stab for D4 can control ragers, it's just harder
orchid nest
you take deimos for the extra utility and safety basically while maintaining hard target potential. Ds4 is of course insane though, but deimos is legit
copper jay
wtf they did to my deimos
echo turtle
special stab for D4 can control ragers, it's just harder
It does on the rager hit.
Diemos force push floors and knocks back one rager, then the strike floors another
untold widget
sure
echo turtle
that wasn't what happened before right
It was
untold widget
I can also special stab 4 times in that window
echo turtle
The damage stacks always applies during the ability
copper jay
bugged hf you knock domn crucher always on the right, why
glossy ember
damn
gusty furnace
you take deimos for the extra utility and safety basically while maintaining har...
I'm not arguing for Deimos being ass
gusty furnace
I'm pointing out that Dueling Swords are objectively better than it.
You won't suffer for using a deimos
but you WILL do better with a dueling sword
Whether that matters is up to you.
I don't really give a shit either way.
orchid nest
you also can't have a ds4 that gives you max creeping flames stacks in a special + qq canceled special with a low warp resist one which is nice if you cross over into creeping flames in a gunker build
gusty furnace
I swap between Deimos and DS with regularity
echo turtle
I can also special stab 4 times in that window
It's definitely faster, DS4 is good
But if you want to make space and control the fight diemos wins.
DS4 you need to kill the stuff before you get hit by rager attacks.
I think diemos also has longer range but I could be wrong
rich rose
One shotting large enemies is a thing with Deimos so I go back and forth
echo turtle
I swap between Deimos and DS with regularity
DS4 feels like the hand of God when you engage with the team and are free to get pokes in
copper jay
deimos is jsut bugged hd
fatshark fix it !
untold widget
i mean stab/special combos drop things pretty quick, while having higher mobility than deimos to keep distance for the stuff you have yet to work on
echo turtle
Deimos feels better when the team is fucking up or you get separated (in my option)
orchid nest
I'm pointing out that Dueling Swords are objectively better than it.
I'm going to have to agree to disagree on objectively. Offensively, yeah. deimos doesn't lose a lot on the offense for what else you get though. it's normal for high end players to completely disregard that kind of utility though so I get it
echo turtle
i mean stab/special combos drop things pretty quick, while having higher mobilit...
I believe diemos has the same speed and dodge distance as the duelie
Am I incorrect?
untold widget
nope
echo turtle
Don't they both had the same speed and dodge distance?
untold widget
I don't with mine. D4 goes like twice as far
untold widget
especially with slides
echo turtle
Interesting, I thought they were the same
untold widget
I think they both have 5 dodges
untold widget
but deimos feels slow as balls to me
echo turtle
Really? Do you have like 30% mobility?
My diemos feels snappy on the dodge
Maybe duely has more in build dodge speed as a hidden stat I dunno
orchid nest
deimos dodges feel pretty good you definitely zoom around better sliding forward with DS though
echo turtle
Darktide is arcane with the stats
echo turtle
It's been a bit I could be misremembering
glossy ember
that's with 10% elite though
copper jay
Don't they both had the same speed and dodge distance?
dueling sword :
max stats ofc
+10% dodge distance
dodge max 5
deimos:
12.50%
max dodge 6
ddoge speed +7.5%
echo turtle
I could have sworn I was hitting for like 1500 without a crit but I could be gaslighting myself
feral verge
my deimos
untold widget
I'm gonna go with "misleading stats" as a fatshark staple
feral verge
think deimos is my fav weapon in the game
echo turtle
I'm gonna go with "misleading stats" as a fatshark staple
Arcane is the marketing term
orchid nest
same here. I've been using DS4 more lately but it's just because of time logged on deimos
echo turtle
You have to delve deep to unlock the mysteries of darktide
echo turtle
same here. I've been using DS4 more lately but it's just because of time logged ...
Feels good to switch it up
Which is why I want to try pygexs knife build. Knife was my fave for a while pre skill rework on the wizard
echo turtle
27 stacks, seems to be a 3 shot even with two crits
Hmmm
Maybe I am gaslighting myself
orchid nest
Feels good to switch it up
Which is why I want to try pygexs knife build. Knife...
yeah knife build does look fun with the new knife
fallow dock
This any good?
orchid nest
still haven't bothered to roll one of the new ones yet but I will eventually
fallow dock
What should I change abt it if it is salvageable?
orchid moon
is gun psyker a good thing now or something?
untold widget
Ok, since I don't a have a Deimos on this particular psyker because it's like 5 minutes old, I've just made this
echo turtle
This any good?
It's OK
Excorcist for slaughterer
Drop on of the perks for flak maybe
untold widget
gonna go test
glossy ember
Hmmm
Maybe I am gaslighting myself
same with 30 stacks and at 70+ peril on two shots
fallow dock
Alr ty Rhinoxerous
echo turtle
You will want slaughterer for general power and uncanny if you want to really fuck up flak and carapace
fallow dock
Sounds like a plan
echo turtle
same with 30 stacks and at 70+ peril on two shots
Is that with the finesse stacks on the second point too?
echo turtle
Oh that's a lot of damage
glossy ember
but peril management sounds like hell
echo turtle
Yeah it's like another 30%
glossy ember
without the peril jnode
echo turtle
For sciers
orchid nest
yeah precog is insane
echo turtle
1% additional finesse damage per second
spice veldt
is gun psyker a good thing now or something?
psyker has some stuff that benefits weapons with good weakspot/crit stuff
fallow dock
It's OK
Excorcist for slaughterer
Drop on of the perks for flak maybe
Shred I should keep right?
untold widget
hmm
echo turtle
Of those two it's the one I would keep
fallow dock
Even though it sounds like you're saying it's just ok
orchid moon
i mean would you be rockin a staff or a gun build in tier 5s
spice veldt
whatever you can do with a Marksman vet, you can do on psyker, albeit with a bit less stuff
untold widget
So it looks like you're right about the dodge distance, and I'm right about the slide speed
echo turtle
Shred is just ok, but excorcist is kind of useless
spice veldt
i mean would you be rockin a staff or a gun build in tier 5s
i do both
glossy ember
lemme try finesse node
echo turtle
So it looks like you're right about the dodge distance, and I'm right about the ...
Neat good to know
spice veldt
i primarily run guns because I'm greedy for elite and special kills
echo turtle
See what I mean
Arcane
echo turtle
Are you using charge attacks lol
untold widget
running D4 with 80% mobility gives about a foot shorter dodge distance (on dodging backwards) than Deimos with 80% mobility
echo turtle
running D4 with 80% mobility gives about a foot shorter dodge distance (on dodgi...
Wild that's significant
untold widget
and about 30% more slide distance with D4 than Deimos
orchid nest
my main thing for gunker is I have never really been an alt person and I have played the standard space wizard for so long now. I'd rather just sit on the same character, especially since they haven't added any new space wizard shit but there is new mundane weapons
spice veldt
the difference in dodge distances shouldn't be that much
glossy ember
1700dmg crits
spice veldt
is this measured with the movementanalyzer mod?
echo turtle
holy jesus
Just regular uncharged H2s
glossy ember
Are you using charge attacks lol
surge rmb yea
spice veldt
@feral verge you hoe
orchid nest
is this measured with the movementanalyzer mod?
wait hold up, this is a thing? I was just saying earlier I wish there was a mod for this
spice veldt
<@297182781346152448> did they fix this
no :(
spice veldt
wait hold up, this is a thing? I was just saying earlier I wish there was a mod ...
yeah, but it's been taken off for now
glossy ember
a bit more crit damage but not worth
orchid nest
yeah, but it's been taken off for now
is it on the mod discord?
echo turtle
No not for surge
spice veldt
is it on the mod discord?
oh maybe
echo turtle
I'm leaning that for surge the best was is vent/siphon and just getting the siphon stacks up and riding the high peril cycling for the extra damage and crit chance
spice veldt
is it on the mod discord?
orchid nest
https://discord.com/channels/1048312349867646996/1079236425196765284/11058913803...
thank you sir
echo turtle
Pop vent for the hordes and mixed hordes to get stacks back and keep pushing out lightning, then normally just tap quell to 70% and keep rolling it for the damage from Nexus/rider
spice veldt
movementanalyzer hasn't resulted in problems for me but the modmaker might have taken it off because it caused some problems
echo turtle
High siphon stacks let's surge stay in the sweet spot to get near max bonus from rider and Nexus, giving it the most consistent damage
untold widget
Oooh, another 21% health curio. Beloved, you spoil me.
echo turtle
If you really want extra juice for crushers, you could run flak and carapace on the surge, but I take maniac to lock in specialist kills
Running surge I also take smite, so crusher packs I just stun and make space then spam surge into them.
It takes a bit but it gets it done.
Surge just isn't great at crushers, but it's great elsewhere
tulip trench
Running surge I also take smite, so crusher packs I just stun and make space the...
surge + smite + venting shriek + mk4 ds = ultimate plasteel farming
echo turtle
surge + smite + venting shriek + mk4 ds = ultimate plasteel farming
It sure works
Though I also like the illisi there for the H1L2 combo to lawnmower hordes that get on you
Arguably unnecessary with smite and vent available
tulip trench
when i run illisi, its with assail and voidstrike
illisi hordes
assail gunner rooms
voidstrike to make bulwarks and crushed fly 5 feet backwards and land on their ass xD
orchid nest
lol yeah. empathic evasion does for yourself at least too with an appropriate weapon
can just stand in 1 spot looking at them unloading
with a columnus or something
echo turtle
@near wyvern with your build there running knife and gun I see you went for vent instead of scriers, I would think scriers would give a massive damage boost, do you feel the soul fire from vent is a better choice
orchid nest
I like both of those setups. vent is really nice for the horde clear and is gonna make you feel better about your scoreboard. scriers is gonna be great for priority target stuff though. I often take EP assail instead of DD if I don't go vent to supplement horde clear
glossy ember
terrifying barrage oh no...
tulip trench
that bad?
glossy ember
yeah it doesn't really do anything
orchid nest
I would use that first one there
tulip trench
whats the preferred blessing then?
orchid nest
charge rate doesn't scale very high with surge
echo turtle
Ah, I see pyg does run scriers with the pistol, but did a different gun build on another video
tulip trench
charge rate doesn't scale very high with surge
like the stat is a dump?
orchid nest
like the stat is a dump?
check the tooltip breakdown. it can be to a point. like you probably don't want it super low. but the difference between yours and an 80 one is (guessing here) probably like a .98 charge rate instead of a .94 one or something
orchid nest
yeah it's only going to be a 40-60ms difference I would guess, basically probably not even noticeable over the duration of a near whole second thing
and then you have both perks able to be freely changed
tulip trench
so then maniacs ->t4
crit chance -> flak?
orchid nest
flak and maniac is good. you can do carapace too. depends on your melee
tulip trench
mk4 ds
rocky yarrow
I wish empowered psionics also refunded with specialist kills
orchid nest
then yeah probably flak and maniac, can just stagger crushers with it and use ds
rocky yarrow
I wish empowered psionics also refunded with specialist kills
Then brain burst would be usable
signal cave
Rough to get through
terse shore
does it still add bots if you go private with 2 ppl
signal cave
does it still add bots if you go private with 2 ppl
yup
terse shore
ok i'm not doing that penance i guess
signal cave
ok i'm not doing that penance i guess
psyker one?
terse shore
i have the ogryn and psyker private ones left
signal cave
i have the ogryn and psyker private ones left
Bots are usally dead before monstrosities
why ress?
just to get kicked?
fk em
orchid nest
you can do malleus with 2 people. just have the bots dead like messiah said or you can also make sure they are following the psyker while ogryn tanks the daemonhost far away
signal cave
you can do malleus with 2 people. just have the bots dead like messiah said or y...
Use a ladder also works
terse shore
does the penance work on the weak ones from maelstrom
orchid nest
Nah it doesn't. I wondered the same thing a while back since I did it back in the day but I saw a video confirming they don't
quasi junco
lol grouped with a purg psyker and I could barely see the DD targets thru all the soulblaze
change the color to purple imo
near wyvern
<@345531303942291457> with your build there running knife and gun I see you wen...
Vent with assails allows you to use all the tools in your kit all the time. Scrier's works but you absolutely have to switch over to melee/gun at the end of it, which can fuck you over if you are playing very aggressively.
With venting shreik, you can also ult to delete a wave from one direction and then use your gun + assails to mow down the other direction. With gaze you can only deal with one direction at the time but you do have access to better monstrosity damage.
echo turtle
Maybe tone down the visuals on purge as well. It looks cool but is really annoying for the team
orchid nest
there is this mod at least, for now https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/157/
signal cave
there is this mod at least, for now https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarkti...
Adapt or lazy devs, hmm.
echo turtle
Vent with assails allows you to use all the tools in your kit all the time. Scri...
Yeah, I was just thinking knife and pistol would get so much from scriers.
I see that's what you run In that video, I was looking at a different gun video and assumed it would be the same build
orchid nest
while going vent or scriers are both great and different I will say I like how clean going down the right side is without feeling like I'm wasting any talents
it's really a testament to how strong vent is that you can suboptimal path around and still have it be as good
near wyvern
Yeah vent is just crazy good AOE damage
signal cave
it's really a testament to how strong vent is that you can suboptimal path aroun...
You compensate for other classes then..? 
near wyvern
And that stagger should also not be underestimated. Sometimes you need to ult not for damage but to interrupt.
orchid nest
yeah for sure, any pre talent rework psyker should appreciate that I would hope
rich rose
I'll take scrier all day every day
near wyvern
The biggest draw back of Scrier's is that if you just have used it you can't get up a team mate who just dropped down in the middle of melee horde
With vent you can just ult and come in with a huge block bar
You can even get a res off in front of some ranged units with it
orchid nest
sometimes assailing is the right play in a very exact moment too and that moment can be when scrier is redlining. I still love scrier of course, but it's something to think about
near wyvern
All that scrier really needs is allow the player to use the ult button again to turn it off prematurely in return of some cooldown (scale inversely with stacks gained).
near wyvern
Thought: when scrier is active you don't explode at100%
You explode if you use a peril costing thing at 100
And at gaze that has been going on a while that can happen if you don't just give up and let it go
austere field
As a possible change to make to the ability I mean
near wyvern
Nah
orchid nest
if it was up to me I'd add a rending node for scrier to be more comparable in use to how a zealot can use their charge to shoot a crusher or vets passive thing. that would probably be too much with what is already there though
near wyvern
The blowing up part is part of Psyker experience
orchid nest
like choose between precog or rending instead of the peril reduction
near wyvern
The peril reduction is only for staves using scriers change my mind
Precog is the way to go
And if you are not using finesse weapons with gaze shame on you
orchid nest
yeah I'm with you on that. would be fine with the node being changed completely to rending or something else interesting
thin finch
OK
First booting of the game after the part 2 dropped
First visit at C(r)unt armory
FIRST PULL OF THE DAY (as well as first pull of that gun)
I get this
Thanks brunt , very cool
Can't wait for mommy hadron to ruin it
ok not great but +25% ,it's okay
holy sheit
Hadron what the fuck ?
orchid nest
this is a real rollercoaster
thin finch
I'm not even mad, I'm not gonna complain, Emprah blessed me this day
orchid nest
I'm not even really up to date on this new revolver, I assume because of its mechanics you want crucian instead of surgical?
tulip trench
I'm not even really up to date on this new revolver, I assume because of its mec...
yes
more spam, fast reload
tulip trench
the last bullet is the one that will dunk on an enemy
plucky flax
Kinda OP obscurus for horde clear. 
orchid nest
I keep checking the armoury for that elusive 0% warp resist deimos
mighty cipher
Kinda OP obscurus for horde clear. <:whatthefuck_heresy:1049724444207239168>
Two questions
- What the fuck is that UI
- Why the Obscurus?
mighty cipher
Understandable, have a good day.
orchid nest
did they fix the site yet for the new weapons?
plucky flax
I keep checking the armoury for that elusive 0% warp resist deimos
I actually use deimos special attack. So I don't mind it low but not like sub 40% low.
Nope new weapons still not appearing.
Good thing most new weapons are not that good for me.
mighty cipher
it's the darkti.de site
The hell does the site do?
orchid nest
I actually use deimos special attack. So I don't mind it low but not like sub 40...
I want a good 0-5% one for very specific gunker vent setup so I can creeping flames in 2 uses with qq instead of dicking around with assails
harsh urchin
I'm not even mad, I'm not gonna complain, Emprah blessed me this day
Perfect roll nice lol
orchid nest
The hell does the site do?
it lets you buy items from the shop while out of game
with the companion mod
mighty cipher
That’s actually really cool
plucky flax
I want a good 0-5% one for very specific gunker vent setup so I can creeping fla...
Tru that's not a bad shout. Although for gun I prefer mk4 duelling sword for more crusher dps and faster movement.
mighty cipher
Cries in console
orchid nest
Tru that's not a bad shout. Although for gun I prefer mk4 duelling sword for mor...
yeah for sure, I do love ds4. been using both. I also go scriers sometimes, just wanted the deimos low warp meme option for some fast creeping flames 
near wyvern
I'm not even mad, I'm not gonna complain, Emprah blessed me this day
Not really. Those blessings are shit for that gun. You gonna run out of ammo in no time. You want +flak / +unarmoured / + maniac with Sustained Fire and Hand Cannon. Then you use it as an assail stat stick: 2 LMB shards into one hip fire and repeat.
orchid nest
Well I have one already with 7% warp resist that hits the 2 use mark for creeping flames but it rolled slaughterer/deflector instead of uncanny/deflector
and both the perks naturally sucked really bad. not that the slaughterer one isn't useable, but still
I feel less need for it to be slaughterer considering I'm using it for creeping flames
I'd take a full offensive one too tbh, whatever I get first
plucky flax
Oh yeah my deimos has deflector uncanny and maniac crusher.
Worse dps than ds4 but deflector is comfy.
orchid nest
yeah thats what my main normal one has too with regular warp resist
so you use the special now huh? you find it useable with the latch breaking now?
I'm so used to not using the special
except to instantly qq it off for peril
plucky flax
Yeah I can hs muties with ds4 really easily but for some reason I can't with deimos.
orchid nest
hmmmm
plucky flax
So most of the time I actually special heavy the mutie rather than trying to heavy 2.
zinc phoenix
Deimos has that stun effect on enemy from the special that I love
rocky yarrow
does the power up penance work with only 4 warp charges?
or do you have to take the upgrade
plucky flax
Timestamped. The special heavy idk if they increase damage or something but it seems faster than before. I find the same with mk15 heavy evis. The special heavy 1 is really fast on that.
https://youtu.be/21QTPqVRkiA?t=1482
orchid nest
I do the heavy 2 on mutants so instinctively that I'm like trying to remember what I even do lmao
orchid nest
grats
sinful olive
Grats. I feel bad for the psykers that have to do that one now tbh, was pretty easy when you could just get the charges from bursting any random enemy
orchid nest
I will say that ds4's second heavy with the drag makes it a lot easier than normal
plucky flax
Tier 1 deflector swag
broken olive
Gawd Damn
orchid nest
tier 3 maniac club
its a shame that yours has t3 maniac because I think its high end enough otherwise to reach the hard to hit maniac h2 1 shot breakpoint
plucky flax
I only use deimos with this purgatus. All other staves I play with ds4 or illisi.
orchid nest
although I guess you're specialing anyways
plucky flax
I can 1 shot heavy 2 mutie with 1 warp charge.
fluid knot
Its a MKII but whadda we reckon brainboxes?
plucky flax
So it's not too hard to achieve in a real game.
orchid nest
yeah you can no buff zero peril them with yours probably if it had t4 maniac but yeah it's not too hard to reach even with just warp rider
plucky flax
Yeah no peril no buff anything it has this much left.
So just with a little peril or 1 warp charge it's easy to 1 shot if I can hit it. Xd
orchid nest
I think pygex figured with the info I gave that the heavy attack weakspot needs to read 1067 at least on the breakdown
hearty oak
I knoow this will sound like a silly question but does maelstroms count as missions with modifiers for the penance
fluid knot
I knoow this will sound like a silly question but does maelstroms count as missi...
They do i believe
plucky flax
This one in my inventory can 1 shot mutie. 
But I have to gamba to get uncanny/deflector as 2nd blessing.
orchid nest
yeah or nail second perk too. really good starting base though damn
open field
if you have the resources to just upgrade i wouldn't buy the blue weapons since they have trash blessings on them
open field
warp rider meta weapon
orchid nest
Haha yeah, my intent is to use it on creeping flames builds that would otherwise build peril slowly. or a better version at least with similar warp resist
plucky flax
Bruh I found another deimos in my inventory. This is how close it is to 1 shot heavy 2 mutie.
I needed 80 damage or 80 finesse.
orchid nest
what does the heavy attack chart read for h2?
open field
i think the 2nd heavy attack for deimos can pretty easily one shot mutie on weakpoint
orchid nest
it could pretty easily before, ever since they removed warp rider giving 10% at 0% peril though you need a near max damage one with no buffs up
plucky flax
I can do it with peril and warp charge of course.
But I wanted to get the break point without any buffs.
plucky flax
I'll use the deflector 1 deimos though it has lower warp charge.
Easier to creeping flame. :3
Deflector tier doesn't matter to me anyhow.
orchid nest
yeah. doesn't the bcr only work on the ranged hits too? is that still a thing?
plucky flax
I think so.
brazen rampart
I just got a tactical axe with 80% stats across the board except for 57% in mobility
orchid nest
the very first deflector I got was a tier 4 one from a blue before they patched the armory to not give them out
in the pre launch
plucky flax
Hmmm combat booster doesn't seem to increase soulblaze damage.
orchid nest
yeah it's nice, although the tier doesn't matter like mr selfish said. I think back then it mattered even less too, like it actually did not even do anything different even though it said it did
it was 10% max bcr instead or something but it just didn't even work at all
vocal cliff
Sorry to digress but Wait deflector has different tiers? thought it was like surge in which it's always 4
open field
i have this deimos but i never noticed it didn't actually one shot on first hit because of the buffs and crits lmao
orchid nest
Sorry to digress but Wait deflector has different tiers? thought it was like su...
yeah it has all 4 tiers
vocal cliff
Huh
plucky flax
Hmmm combat booster doesn't seem to increase soulblaze damage.
I lied it does.
vocal cliff
Granted I completely forgot the numeral percentage lol
Thought it was just the first half
plucky flax
It scales from tier 1 with 22.5% bcr to t4 at 30%.
Which is not that much.
And they are all able to block bullets so.
orchid nest
the combat booster rending has made columnus even more fun, can actually pop down crushers pretty well
can do like over 2k dps to them with just scriers and booster going even at low peril with no other stacks built
and with just dumdum
open field
how do you deal with the bulwark hordes with gunker though
orchid nest
if you flick assail shards behind a bulwark and then aim at them it can open them up with their front facing you, and then columnus will perma stagger an opened bulwark until its dead
queen fog
how do you deal with the bulwark hordes with gunker though
how does anyone deal with bulwark hordes effectively
queen fog
but u said gunker
open field
and you said anyone
queen fog
true i am a flawed man with logic atm
orchid nest
yeah trauma staff is the best answer to that problem. for gunker though you can get by with assail opening them up
open field
i got so annoyed by them as gunker i put on smite just to deal with them
plucky flax
Playing gun without assail? Heavy risk.
orchid nest
I feel too ammo inefficient without assail but I know some people here do like smite gunker
plucky flax
Oh my deimos. It was short of 1 shotting mutie.
orchid nest
tbh the biggest problem with bulwarks in any non massive cc setup is people hitting their shields instead of letting them swing
thin finch
Oh my deimos. It was short of 1 shotting mutie.
get that 20% peril going and you should be good
vocal cliff
I still question that to this day when I see a teammate hitting the shield
plucky flax
Give back old warp rider.
fluid knot
Playing gun without assail? Heavy risk.
Question.. does Precognition effect ranged if you swap to it whilst the buff is active?
fluid knot
Give back old warp rider. <a:nooooo:971102259490476083>
Aye, whilst we're at it can we have WnR back
open field
I feel too ammo inefficient without assail but I know some people here do like s...
had more problems keeping up DD with smite rather than ammo cause of vet ammo
fluid knot
New Revo' actually gives Psyker some meaningful boss damage, so thats cool
open field
so eh i switched back to assail
orchid nest
had more problems keeping up DD with smite rather than ammo cause of vet ammo
yeah for sure
thin finch
Give back old warp rider. <a:nooooo:971102259490476083>
which old one
thin finch
I feel too ammo inefficient without assail but I know some people here do like s...
I did a run and I'm always happy to have my smite when a buncha rager drop from the roof
plucky flax
Aye, whilst we're at it can we have WnR back <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
You know what I think a decent buff to ep bb would be to give it old wnr. So soulblaze on headpop with ep stacks.
- all the damage you can chain bb and kill horde.
thin finch
it seems to not work on crusher as efficiently as before tho
orchid nest
New Revo' actually gives Psyker some meaningful boss damage, so thats cool
really? I might have to try it out then. I like columnus' monstrosity damage, but the old revolver even though the head crits bust them it still kind of eh.. slow overall
plucky flax
While killing elites/specials.
fluid knot
You know what I think a decent buff to ep bb would be to give it old wnr. So sou...
It would be a lot better than the random headpop every 15s
But it would snowball with Perilous properly hard
open field
really? I might have to try it out then. I like columnus' monstrosity damage, bu...
i tried it a lot and yes it does a lot of boss damage but it's worse against rager hordes and gunners
orchid nest
I did a run and I'm always happy to have my smite when a buncha rager drop from ...
yeah for sure, although this is something assail is pretty good at too if you're quick swapping, since ragers in a melee animation moveset get hard staggered by assail
fluid knot
i tried it a lot and yes it does a lot of boss damage but it's worse against rag...
Psyker is one of the few classes that has a number of ways of dealing with, DS shits on a couple of ragers, if there is more, so does Assail, an Gunners by that too
open field
there's just so much reloading though so i prefer columnus
fluid knot
I would run Columnus if i was running Scriers, but gonna run Shriek on this setup
thin finch
I'm just not sure the new gun is good for picking elite at distance, it works and I only did one game, but bracing instead of aiming is something I'm never truly happy about
open field
oh i see
fluid knot
Ye, use KD for peril gains in melee, Shred on DS to Neo-dodge bullets, Assail over range, Warp Siphon for damage
hearty oak
I'm just not sure the new gun is good for picking elite at distance, it works an...
It's good for those mid range elites. Otherwise, it's more of a joke if you land the kills hot at a longer range
fluid knot
Its a CQB gun, so not much sense in running Scriers when peril can be gained in close where the gun actually has some benifit
orchid shadow
This is not the score I want to see at the start of an Auric mission... ><
hearty oak
Yeah I found myself back to using the other one and seeing it was better when I get to actually aim
hearty oak
Just no speedloader 
vestal fulcrum
Timestamped. The special heavy idk if they increase damage or something but it s...
It didn't seem very fast to me - it in fact looked pretty standard
But I rarely if ever use special attacks on Deimos
I'm H2 gaming
thin finch
hey nice looking sword (you can call me a sellout)
quasi junco
But I rarely if ever use special attacks on Deimos
yea i only use it on hounds/mutants that aren't after me for the lock
vestal fulcrum
No worries, not everyone has to like the weapon
I just recently found my long lost love in it
hearty oak
That's too hard for me.
It's good for sedition
thin finch
thin finch
Its a CQB gun, so not much sense in running Scriers when peril can be gained in ...
it might be better with mass flame people and shoot in the mass to spread the flame
venting shriek + creeping flame + cqb gun shooting in the pleb
plucky flax
Timestamped. Me when I try to poke the mutie without special. Ended up having to hit it thrice.
https://youtu.be/21QTPqVRkiA?t=178
hearty oak
Timestamped. Me when I try to poke the mutie without special. Ended up having to...
worst staff
More like the chill staff cause that's really all you're doing
plucky flax
It can be worst performance staff but the chillest one to play.
vocal cliff
The flames from a bomber or flamer are more powerful than these gusts of white wind
plucky flax
Just right click left click.
vestal fulcrum
Also by watching your video I experienced the funny voice the navigator helmet grants
vocal cliff
Is that the one helm that makes you look like an idiot in a soldier helm
quasi junco
woooo keep that plasteel coming
plucky flax
The voice is cool the the hair is fucked up.
Don't look at the back of your head in that helm.
thin finch
5 slot for build is NOT ENOUGH
hearty oak
woooo keep that plasteel coming
what one class player looks like
orchid nest
I usually land my h2's into muties. I find the ds4 special stagger into muties heads harder to land though
thin finch
I usually land my h2's into muties. I find the ds4 special stagger into muties h...
for the mk4 I just h2 and they ded
quasi junco
*what one class player looks like*
kinda, I occasionally play zealot
hearty oak
Play ogryn and learn to cast a rock like a chad
orchid nest
yeah it's only 1 shot on a crit though right? especially now that rampage was fixed
quasi junco
I'd rather use the FU nuke grenade imo
plucky flax
My ds4 does like 85% damage to mutie,
So it's very easy to soften the mutie with assail or staff left click before then hit head.
orchid nest
yeah same, has to crit to 1 hit I believe unless serious buffs going or be damaged
hearty oak
I'd rather use the FU nuke grenade imo
It's fun but not as satisfying as a rock can be. And you get four of them
bleak tulip
Don't look at the back of your head in that helm. <:staregryn:102208508384432537...
there is like 2 hairstyles that work with it
everything else looks extra doodoo 😔
plucky flax
there is like 2 hairstyles that work with it
Bald and balder is not a hairstyle.
orchid shadow
*what one class player looks like*
What it looks like to only have one class and one build.
hearty oak
Can't take soften them up with rock. <a:nooooo:971102259490476083>
these are the sacrifices I am willing to make to meet the bombers face with a bolder
plucky flax
Me with more melk coins than plasteels and diamantine combined.
You guys are not crafting enough meme loadouts.
fluid knot
Can't take soften them up with rock. <a:nooooo:971102259490476083>
Only works on melee anyway, its a decent skill, but not like you cant supplement the damage from elsewhere
plucky flax
It increases bleed damage as well no?
fluid knot
venting shriek + creeping flame + cqb gun shooting in the pleb
Thats what im doing
strong gulch
I have a fresh 30 so I spent my melk money on mid weapons.
hearty oak
You guys are not crafting enough meme loadouts.
I'm currently doing a flamer zealot with throwing knives with the shout. Very good with the mk15 chainsword
fluid knot
It increases bleed damage as well no?
Pass actually, idk
orchid nest
I think it works on everything but only applied with melee
plucky flax
Flamer feels bad to me now. Too little ammo.
fluid knot
Not that bleed really needs the DPS increase
plucky flax
Give back old flamer. 
vestal fulcrum
It increases bleed damage as well no?
It applies a damage received debuff to enemies, so it should, yeah
fluid knot
Kantreal Shotgun is the best Flamer
plucky flax
Even with this 4 damage target cap I clear horde so fast with light spam.
I use piety shred ramapge on my mk5 evis.
orchid nest
we gotta keep the flamer down because it's funny that purg is better than it overall after all the crap flamer mains talked about purg back in the day
vestal fulcrum
L4 in Mk15 is a vanguard attack with infinite cleave though, no?
hearty oak
Yeah but it gets to a point where I need to hit more than 4 a lot
vestal fulcrum
Terrible angle of it, though
plucky flax
You hit more than 4, you just damage 4.
hearty oak
So I just resort to the sword for the crushers
plucky flax
The horde clear is so much faster than old evis for me.
vestal fulcrum
You hit more than 4, you just damage 4.
But that's exclusive to relentless attacks
hearty oak
Let me damage more than 4. You know what I mean
vestal fulcrum
i.e., l1-l3
plucky flax
Aye. I dunno why they gave it relentless light attacks tbh.
vestal fulcrum
"balance"
orchid nest
how is that new chainsword on psyker
vestal fulcrum
plucky flax
Should have been all vanguard since the attack speed is a bit slow.
fallow dock
Yo is Warp Nexus IV good on Trauma?
vestal fulcrum
how is that new chainsword on psyker
I don't like it, but it's not a sentiment that exclusive to Psyker
vestal fulcrum
Yo is Warp Nexus IV good on Trauma?
Very
fallow dock
LEts gooooo
orchid nest
hmmmm
hearty oak
Should have been all vanguard since the attack speed is a bit slow.
I tried it on a Marty build and stealth build. It could be because I'm more verse with the class now but It feels good on either swinging fast or just having a nasty swing
plucky flax
I take the 10% attack speed talent and use piety keystone to spam chastise for extra 20% attack speed.
vestal fulcrum
I assume Surge is the go-to for the other blessing if I already have Warp Nexus?
On Trauma? No
Surge does nothing for Trauma Secondary fire
plucky flax
30% attack speed make it bareable.
fallow dock
Oh it literally has no effect?
hearty oak
Even then, the 20% feels sluggish compared to the mk 2
vestal fulcrum
But Blazing Spirit does work very well with Nexus
vestal fulcrum
Oh it literally has no effect?
Yeah. Nada. Only primary fire fires double projectiles.
fallow dock
Alr ty I will def try to get that I appreciate the help bro
orchid nest
I assume Surge is the go-to for the other blessing if I already have Warp Nexus?
you go blazing spirit on crit trauma basically, with venting shriek/creeping flames and perilous combustion
hearty oak
When's the perils of the warp build coming out??
fallow dock
you go blazing spirit on crit trauma basically, with venting shriek/creeping fla...
wHaT aBoUt WiLdFiRe tHo???
plucky flax
Even then, the 20% feels sluggish compared to the mk 2
Timestamped here with a bit of horde clear. It feels good enough when chastise attack speed bonus is activated to me.
https://youtu.be/cNhTXU-KkNY?t=988
orchid nest
but yeah, you can skip out on the wildfire. some people here like it I guess, just doesn't feel impactful to me
hearty oak
Timestamped here with a bit of horde clear. It feels good enough when chastise a...
Look at all those ads you just slap around though and they take no damage. Just looks ridiculous
plucky flax
It's no combat axe with bm.
fallow dock
but yeah, you can skip out on the wildfire. some people here like it I guess, ju...
I was absolutely flamed this morning (pun intended) for having it in my build so believe me I know
It was my very first build for psyker I swear I didn't know
plucky flax
Hey I am top 1% and I use wildfire.
hearty oak
thats about my only gripe with it. Otherwise, i like it for the heavy damage it can dish out
plucky flax
Don't worry bro if you like it use it.
orchid nest
I was absolutely flamed this morning (pun intended) for having it in my build so...
ahhh ok. the main problem is it's just like.. by the time you get all the warp charge stuff you don't have a lot of playing room for stuff like wildfire. but yeah you can still use it
hearty oak
Hey I am top 1% and I use wildfire.
1%
Sedition difficulty
plucky flax
icy wyvern
So something really cool about the game that a lot of people dont know is uh
you dont have to play auric d5
hearty oak
impossible
open field
i dont see why anyone would even really get wildfire because it's not even an actual source of soulblaze and it's capped to 4 stacks
icy wyvern
like you can play auric d4 and have just as much fun, believe it or not
vestal fulcrum
So, where's that take steming from? You don't have to do anything in this game if you think about in hard enough 
orchid nest
something like this discord will just be extremely skewed towards something like aurics, it's an enthusiasts place to come generally that doesn't really represent the general population well
dusky smelt
im actually trying to put together a build that uses wildfire
digital narwhal
something like this discord will just be extremely skewed towards something like...
Absolutely.
icy wyvern
yeah just a lot of people kinda lose sight of the whole point of bideo game
harsh urchin
like you can play auric d4 and have just as much fun, believe it or not
Most people who play this game play on 3s and 4s, nothing wrong with that; but why do you come here telling others how to play the game?
hearty oak
like you can play auric d4 and have just as much fun, believe it or not
Next you're gonna tell me its fun to do games where you race to the end with knives and use barrels to give speed boosts or sabtoage your teammates to get 1st place
open field
you dont have to play auric d5
but i love getting swarmed by ragers and bonked in the head by crushers
dusky smelt
warpcharges soul blaze and scriers
harsh urchin
Cuz thats just rude lmao
icy wyvern
junkie
vestal fulcrum
Also I need to collect plasteel to saturate by addiction for gambling crafting mechanics
harsh urchin
where did i tell anyone how to play the game
Right here #psyker-class message
open field
me fallign asleep on non damnation because i'm not getting shot at by 20 snipers at once while running away from a horde of bulwarks
pallid spindle
i dont see why anyone would even really get wildfire because it's not even an ac...
probably because it's not immediately obvious from reading the description just how limited it is
icy wyvern
saying what you don't have to do is not saying what you must do
im sorry that is confusing to you
digital narwhal
Anyway, can anyone give me context on the current convo?
I'm going out for food and can't be arsed scrolling through everything.
vestal fulcrum
Listen to your self
You can't exactly listen to text messages, can you
plucky flax
Wildfire haters will say my damage is fake.
dusky smelt
so question ive got 2 trauma staffs and i cant decide which to keep and which to give to hadron
icy wyvern
"you don't have to drive 85 mph and swerve in and out of lanes"
"STOP TELLING ME HOW TO DRIVE"
hearty oak
Wildfire haters will say my damage is fake.
fake
digital narwhal
so question ive got 2 trauma staffs and i cant decide which to keep and which to...
Left is better.
plucky flax
vestal fulcrum
Wildfire haters will say my damage is fake.
hearty oak
Sedition gamer exposed.
🥹
harsh urchin
I mean yeah, if you say "you dont have to do x"; you're literally telling people how to do x
digital narwhal
Take Rending Shockwave from the one on the right.
Change Sustained Fire to Rending Shockwave, and Crit Damage to Flak.
icy wyvern
^^
vestal fulcrum
(I'm jesting obviously, Wildfire is somewhat bugged but it still is worth a skill point on Soulblaze builds)
strong gulch
so question ive got 2 trauma staffs and i cant decide which to keep and which to...
Keep first one.
icy wyvern
And then you have rending shockwave in case you get a better trauma
hearty oak
Sedition gamer exposed.
Barrels are overpowered enemies
dusky smelt
welp thats 3 for 3 guess im doing it
icy wyvern
I played a few games in beta where people would try and launch teammates off with barrels
open field
fire barrels ignore toughness pls nerf
digital narwhal
Barrels are overpowered enemies
Tfw Fire Barrels are now more dangerous than Beasts of Nurgle.
orchid nest
I think wildfire can be worth a point in a vacuum I just find myself without a point to spend on it with warp charges which is every soulblaze build I do
hearty oak
If they kept the fire damage on red barrels the same, i honestly wouldnt complain
But its gotta work the same on enemies
icy wyvern
Shame you can't throw barrels
vestal fulcrum
Tfw Fire Barrels are now more dangerous than Beasts of Nurgle.
Now? Where was ever a time where fire barrels weren't more dangerous than a Bungle?
Fire barrels deal 20 hp damage/tick
It's lethal
vestal fulcrum
Bungle = Beast of Nurgle
orchid nest
why not both, the best is when a beast carries you through fire
vestal fulcrum
I could call it Burgle, but that reminds me of burgers, and BoNs are not exactly tasty, are they?
icy wyvern
bunger
hearty oak
why not both, the best is when a beast carries you through fire
I love being cooked inside a slug.
icy wyvern
burgle makes me think of the hamburgler
digital narwhal
Now? Where was ever a time where fire barrels weren't more dangerous than a Bung...
Look, I play a lot of Ogryn.
Unless I have a pillar to run around or biiiig open spaces, I'm gonna get swallowed by it eventually.
Then it'll bring me from 525 HP to 1 HP w/ 524 Corruption.
icy wyvern
who would side with nurgle in an instant
digital narwhal
So I may be a bit bias here.
vestal fulcrum
Ogryn or not, BoN is only ever a threat if you don't have space to kite
orchid nest
Look, I play a lot of Ogryn.
Unless I have a pillar to run around or *biiiig* op...
this is so true, with fnp ogryn you can basically stand ontop of exploding barrels for fun
vestal fulcrum
And not a threat by itself - it never will kill you by itself, unless you get body-slammed or clapped with its tail
icy wyvern
Getting eaten by a beast means your team gets free weakspot shots while its voring you
digital narwhal
this is so true, with fnp ogryn you can basically stand ontop of exploding barre...
I use barrels for movement.
icy wyvern
the most dangerous part of beasts is it voring you and carrying you into a mob spawn room
orchid shadow
the most dangerous part of beasts is it voring you and carrying you into a mob s...
Or back to the DH you all just snuck past.
digital narwhal
Oh also, BoN grabbing you doesn't stop you from taking fire damage.
icy wyvern
pffft
digital narwhal
This with the new fire from Flamers and Bombers means genuine insta death
icy wyvern
bon or spawn
digital narwhal
because of corruption + fire
icy wyvern
I got flamed while grabbed from a spawn, was not cash money
digital narwhal
I can go from 145 Toughness and 525 HP on my Ogryn to genuine death just in 3 seconds with a BoN grabbing me
It's fucked
orchid nest
game has been out for a year and the best bon strategy is somehow still.. door
orchid nest
Lol, fair enough. although I meant insta killing them by closing the door on them
thin finch
i use voidstrike, my strat is always door
I just saw a bomber trhowing a bomb trough the door
orchid nest
it has to close kind of by the weakpoint when they are a little way through, it's finicky
thin finch
and funny enough , I was running voidstrike
orchid nest
zinc phoenix
Oh also, BoN grabbing you doesn't stop you from taking fire damage.
Jesus Christ fuck new fire 😂
I haven’t been gobbled in forever but now I have a new reason to fear it lol
orchid nest
if anyone ever tells you some gun or melee is psykers best monstrosity damage just remember that door exists. gotta make up for it somehow
digital narwhal
Jesus Christ fuck new fire 😂
Getting grabbed by Bungle in fire just means instant death, yeah
No counter play
You just die
zinc phoenix
🪦 in 🍕
digital narwhal
You can run the maximum possible effective Toughness + HP combination for Ogryn and still just die in 3 seconds
vocal cliff
And whatever ya do
Do not rez them so long as the fire persists and they're in it
Please
magic wind
Is scryers psyker even good?
digital narwhal
And whatever ya do
Do not rez them so long as the fire persists and they're in ...
Happened to me the other day
vestal fulcrum
No need to make it overly dramatic, though. There will be a hotfix for it next week, right?
vestal fulcrum
right?
digital narwhal
Is scryers psyker even good?
Yes
vocal cliff
on my two wound Psyker
Pain
vestal fulcrum
Is scryers psyker even good?
It depends on what you want to accomplish with it, but it's OK.
Just not overly amazing or meta
brazen rampart
scryers is kinda hard to use imo
digital narwhal
I'm regularly breaking 1 million damage with Scrier's Gun Psyker
orchid nest
yeah scrier is good. you can go shriek instead for better horde clear. scrier is good priority damage button
digital narwhal
How would I build one?
Essentially
Go for crits out the ass
Psykers get incredibly strong crit builds
west stream
How would I build one?
simplest way is to be a gunker
since you remove need to balance scryer against staff use
rich rose
Is scryers psyker even good?
Its pretty much all I run these days
west stream
can use empowered psionics while at it
magic wind
Its pretty much all I run these days
Oh?
west stream
Personally more of a fan of laspistols on psyker vs rifles as advised on guide
but still
magic wind
What do laspistols do for you?
west stream
mk10 has some very nice finnesse scaling I believe so it works better with disrupt destiny
orchid nest
the best part about scriers is the superior pathing to be honest, it makes comparing the other combat abilities just against eachother harder since you waste nothing going down the right side for a gunker compared to shriek wasting at least 1 talent point and realistically 2 (imo)
west stream
but mk2 is overall solid, good monstrosity damage too
shove alt is situationaly nice too, but in general they're good crit vehicles
and crit is name of game after all
magic wind
What does finesse really do? Weak spot damage?
compact bluff
finesse is weak spot and crit damage
vestal fulcrum
What does finesse really do? Weak spot damage?
Weak spot and critical damage values
west stream
which on psyker due to talents and for scryers in particular you want a lot of
vestal fulcrum
Unless you mean a weapon modifier, because Finesse as a weapon modifier on some weapons also improves attack speed.
rich rose
simplest way is to be a gunker
Hmm haven't tried gunker scrier, gonna try that now
fluid knot
I'm regularly breaking 1 million damage with Scrier's Gun Psyker
Fun Gunpsyker thing with new Revo', Trickshooter affects Assail
west stream
is all I run tbh, I do have other builds but I like scrier uptime with duelling and laspistol
fluid knot
Gotta be quick ont swap, but ye
vestal fulcrum
which on psyker due to talents and for scryers in particular you want a lot of
By baseline you want Mettle and Perfect Timing feats from top of the tree. For Scryer's upgrades, I'd consider taking the movespeed and either the finesse upgrade or the peril accumulation reduction upgrade.
digital narwhal
Fun Gunpsyker thing with new Revo', Trickshooter affects Assail
Assail is affected by all Blessings if you switch to them while the shards are out
Uncanny Strike, for example :^)
orchid nest
transfer peril is funny with assail on a void, just refunding itself basically
digital narwhal
But it isn’t worth using new Revvy on Psyker imo, since it misses certain BPs
fluid knot
Uncanny Strike, for example :^)
Oh joy.. Assail HC 2.0.
west stream
I am sure smite has a place but it doesnt have total removal of peril with empowered, so kinda removes the synergy
digital narwhal
Feels very much like a Vet’s way or the high way kind of weapon
fluid knot
I am sure smite has a place but it doesnt have total removal of peril with empow...
Smite is giga-ass
fluid knot
Feels very much like a Vet’s way or the high way kind of weapon
Im not sure i agree on that, it gives Psyker meaningful boss damage, which is hard to come by unless you play the obviously very broken Columnus
digital narwhal
Psyker has meaningful boss damage with Combat Knife, Columnus IAG, Vraks III Headhunter, and both Laspistols
lost folio
Tried smite I felt like a Chinese made palpatine
digital narwhal
Also, Purgatus to an extent
west stream
laspistol mk 2 is good for boss
vestal fulcrum
A door is an asset you don't always have
magic wind
Weak spot and critical damage values
Ooo
fluid knot
Psyker has meaningful boss damage with Combat Knife, Columnus IAG, Vraks III Hea...
Yeah.. again.. just guns, Purgatus is also kinda dogwater
vestal fulcrum
And even then, cheesing a boss by killing it with a door is not exactly peak skill showcase
digital narwhal
Still, the new Revolver doesn’t have much for Psyker outside of boss damage
orchid nest
thats what we really need, you convinced me. spawn a door blitz
fluid knot
Ah yes, let me take the weapon that takes so long to kill stuff that my team has already killed everything before the DoT reach critical mass
lost folio
Ive been using laspistol
compact bluff
new revolver has great finesse which gun psyker scales heavily but it having random spread is just so sad
vestal fulcrum
thats what we really need, you convinced me. spawn a door blitz
Ogryn could have a portable door blitz
digital narwhal
Ah yes, let me take the weapon that takes so long to kill stuff that my team has...
Did I saw it was useful outside of bosses?
fluid knot
Only way I've gotta Purgatus to feel meaningful is with funny DoT stack build which involves Knoife
If only we could get Kantreal Shotgun on Psyker
digital narwhal
Psykers should get Shotguns and Zealots should get Recon Lasgun
lost folio
I've only recently got the game so far o e enjoyed veteran the most
fluid knot
Psykers should get Shotguns and Zealots should get Recon Lasgun
Or just delete Recon Las from the game and give Psyker shotgun anyway, you know, that would be better
digital narwhal
Yeah but then you’d upset Malice players
fluid knot
Zealot has basically nothing to make Recon Las workable
lost folio
What's wrong with recon las
fluid knot
Its shit
lost folio
I like it
fluid knot
Outside of like two builds
Its fine in lower settings, in higher ones it falls off a cliff in usability
lost folio
Shoots fast and is accurate
digital narwhal
What's wrong with recon las
Pretty horrible damage combined with mediocre ADMs across the board
They don’t perform well
fluid knot
Marksman Vet can use the VIIa, and Psyker can do funny crit stuff with it, but its still pretty shit when compared to basically anything else
copper jay
some spyker chad here ?
digital narwhal
Yeah like, why use a VIIa when Agri IAG exists
fluid knot
Or you know, anything else
copper jay
i don't think it was the case before but maybe i'm just a noob but since when the force sword can push mob at 9meter ?
like wtf
compact bluff
they gave the force sword push attack a 10 meter range in patch 13
lost folio
I've been stuck with laspistol for psyker
orchid nest
yeah I think he means the push attack which is roughly 9-10m range
vestal fulcrum
It definitely can put some mobs in Level 3 stagger
copper jay
it was stonks in aoe but never seen it push this far
vestal fulcrum
yeah I think he means the push attack which is roughly 9-10m range
I reckon you may be right
But is it really 9m?
lost folio
I often forget pushing is a thing
orchid nest
yeah its 9ish meters and can knock a crusher down from that far away in 2 pushes. it also stacks uncanny for you if you push attack them in the head
copper jay
But is it really 9m?
wan't a video ? (i need to edit a replay
vestal fulcrum
wan't a video ? (i need to edit a replay
Nah, okay, that's right, I just checked this in Psykhanium
lmao
I never really knew it reached THAT FAR
Level 200 on Psyker, by the way
copper jay
ok it can stagger 3 a crucher wtf
orchid nest
yeah it's pretty awesome for bowling over elites/specials on approach and saving team mates from bursters, or even just making bursters for yourself safer in general
copper jay
its bugged has fuck like the deimos
bright mica
@orchid nest what would you do if you met Domhuman
orchid nest
<@317297619594641408> what would you do if you met Domhuman
doesn't exist, thats just a regular human
bright mica
what about switchhuman
orchid nest
the push/attack also goes into deimos H2 which is nice since you can like stagger a crusher on approach -> go into H2 directly instead of light attacking the air
fresh reef
managed to top damage my first match with gun psyker
surely this result will repeat itself on auric 
digital narwhal
What build you runnin'?
quasi junco
lol need to play ogyrn more
orchid nest
I run almost the same exact build as you grond from what you linked there. except I usually have precog, and I sometimes take bio-lodestone in ep for more horde clear or DD
quasi junco
lol
quasi junco
like Hugh Mongus?
echo turtle
https://tenor.com/view/pepe-hmm-thinking-praying-pepe-the-frog-gif-15411715
The push also does 1 damage and procs uncanny
copper jay
wtf
orchid nest
The push also does 1 damage and procs uncanny
yeah I mentioned that a little before that 
#psyker-class message
echo turtle
Word
orchid nest
just a couple of deimos enjoyers
rich rose
Fun Gunpsyker thing with new Revo', Trickshooter affects Assail
Tried the gunker scrier with a Columnus, it works lol
orchid nest
The push also does 1 damage and procs uncanny
I'm glad you caught me mentioning the push into h2 again though and no one caring
copper jay
just a couple of deimos enjoyers
did enjoye it before all the bs of patch 13-14-15, and i wanted to play some deimos again but not with this ugly stagger 3 on crusher, like wtf its here
FATSHARK FIX YOUR DAMN AWESOME GIGA ULTRA CHAD BUGGED GAME
orchid nest
did enjoye it before all the bs of patch 13-14-15, and i wanted to play some dei...
crusher isn't even the top end of it, it can send the new twin bosses to the ground too
copper jay
did read it
some much bs these last patch
like the ogryn bully club slap stagger boss
echo turtle
I'm glad you caught me mentioning the push into h2 again though and no one carin...
LOL ikr, it's the most important aspect of the weapon
orchid nest
I'm not sure what they intended with the h2 stagger though. survived so far
vestal fulcrum
like the ogryn bully club slap stagger boss
This shouldn't exist TBH
echo turtle
Well, no one uses it so it's not a problem
vestal fulcrum
This would be fine for Mk3 Latrine shovel
But clubs REALLY shouldn't have that ability
queen fog
Well, no one uses it so it's not a problem
Glances at my pals always rocking the maces for that exact reason
Funny chaos spawn stunlock
copper jay
This shouldn't exist TBH
there too much shit like that on all the classe sadly its the norm now
orchid nest
thats why they are called bully clubs, because you get to bully the bosses
vestal fulcrum
there too much shit like that on all the classe sadly its the norm now
I demand equality for cleavers