psyker-class

[glossy ember]

[fresh reef]

what's the gun psyker top tiers looking like atm?

[untold widget]

sprint efficiency is secretly meta for knife lol

[glossy ember]

maybe i'll be lucky on the last roll

nah stamina better than sprint efficency

[untold widget]

run 3x 3 stam curios

fixed

[radiant sleet]

What curios do you like to run with deflector?

[olive ember]

Auric is for sweats, regular is for sleepy brain off mode

I always play regular cuz I find the skill level of randos don’t go up between the two

[untold widget]

I do one stam, one health, one wound

[olive ember]

Wound

SMH what are you

A Marty zealot

[untold widget]

nope, just have shit internet that drops packets like fed ex

sometimes I can't stop something

[harsh urchin]

auric more fun though

[radiant sleet]

I might try 1 health 2 stam, maybe some block eff.

[harsh urchin]

more times when everyone dies and there's clutch opportunities

i've gotten to the point where I stopped quickplaying

and just specifically pick the histg

cuz it keeps putting me into hi or hidog

[olive ember]

Auric is more infuriating when I watch the nubs take years to kill 3 poxwalkers before getting in the elevator

Meanwhile game is constantly spawning specials at us

[harsh urchin]

ye you just let them die

and then game replaces them with a bot

and bot is better cuz it has ammo aura

[untold widget]

What's ammo?

[unreal wasp]

Did they change enemy HP? Finding myself suddenly oneshotting every Bulwark with Brain Rupture

Also Maulers seem tankier

[fading depot]

There's no cooldown on the middle mouse button ping

I just start mashing that shit

[olive ember]

They ignore it lol

Rando players are generally clueless

[shrewd holly]

Any tip for warp battery?

[olive ember]

Uh play on the highest difficulty you are comfortable with

Ideally auric Damnation with hi int

And basically try and delete hordes

[shrewd holly]

Brainburst smite or assail?

[mighty cipher]

No, probably just teammates being good at the game for once. Ragers did get their health cut by 20% though so OHKOing them is possible now.

[olive ember]

Doesn’t rly matter? You kinda wanna kill as much shit as possible prioritize elites and specials

[shrewd holly]

aight

[olive ember]

The idea is that if the hordes are big enough you should be able to maintain warp charges for 5 minutes

[vestal cloak]

They also Made me a GOD

[olive ember]

From the rng procs

[vestal cloak]

Crowd control for all you peasants

[mighty cipher]

Melee only* maelstrom. if you can survive and remember to not use your ability it’ll be literally free.

[unreal wasp]

Man, new revolver makes me want Rannick's revolver even more now

Hamana hamana

Give

[fading depot]

Vets who don't take the revive shout node 🙄

[violet oak]

Have you considered not needing to be revived

[unreal wasp]

[vapid lichen]

just don't go down, easy

the revive node makes the cooldown so much longer when you can already just shout and stick the revive normally using the knockback

[fading depot]

He didnt do that 😠

[vapid lichen]

skill issue

[polar peak]

Is anyone else’s psyker squishy? What can I do to beef up my gal? 😦

[midnight cove]

Also reduces the radius lmao

[unreal wasp]

300HP Psyker with Peril block before stam block, no squish here

[vapid lichen]

are you taking the kinetic deflection node

[midnight cove]

And costs a talent point

[fading depot]

Still worth

[violet oak]

Kill harder

[fading depot]

Getting those 2-3 man revives in a clutch is invaluable

[vapid lichen]

yeah the revive node is so cheeks lol

[fading depot]

Hell nah its mandatory

[polar peak]

What’s your preferred secondary?

Gun or wand

[unreal wasp]

Bang shooty

[fading depot]

always staff

[midnight cove]

I think it'll save people from going down more than you get to clutch with it

[fading depot]

Gun psyker is cool but the whole build has to be based on it for it to be better than a staff

[vapid lichen]

you'd be better off with a shorter cooldown, a larger radius, and an extra talent point and making sure you can save people from going down in the first place by restoring their toughness and knocking down enemies

[polar peak]

The skill tree for psyker is a bit confusing to me tbh

[olive ember]

Eh it’s a trade off

[spice veldt]

I rarely have to solo clutch so I'm not spending a point on the revive node esp if I've got space making tools in the form of nades with nade Regen and the push of the ult

[olive ember]

One is more CC and spamability

The other is more clutch potential

[glossy ember]

i run 1 3x and 2 stam on knoife

[olive ember]

Basically you gotta ask yourself “how shit are your teammates”

[fading depot]

There's already a lot of ways to lower your ult CD

[vapid lichen]

the answer is almost always "my teammates are terrible" so the actual question is probably "how good am I"

[midnight cove]

If they're shit enough insta ressing tnem won't matter for long lmao

[fading depot]

My buddy has it up all the time when we play together so he's able to use it pre emptively and to rez

[glossy ember]

well it's fine

can swap sprint with maniac and precog with uh

what's it called

[polar peak]

Woah that’s a good knife you got there

[glossy ember]

uncanny strike yeah

it's an upgrade over my ol' knife sorta

[rich rose]

Trying this out, so far, I like it

[midnight cove]

If it didn't have the increased cd id say its pretty mandatory

[rich rose]

https://youtu.be/OMOXeoVpnxE?si=uRhDlXcAiHFJEpii

[vapid lichen]

oh no a youtube guide

[midnight cove]

I suppose the versatility can be nice regardless though

[glossy ember]

well shit this knife can two crit a bulwark

wth

[olive ember]

It’s

Okay build

[polar peak]

I’m more of a put points into things that might be cool kind of guy

[olive ember]

The YouTube guide

When the fuck did illisi become a light spam weapon tho

[midnight cove]

There is one distinct advantage with the res shout i guess, the fact that you can yoink resses from teammates so you can farm your revive penance :^)

[glossy ember]

playing shield build really makes me realize how shit scrier is with surge staff

[brave fiber]

I mean tbf it’s lights are good horde clear with the right blessings

like really good

[vapid lichen]

he doesnt have the 4% damage per warp charge node and takes kinetic flayer instead

[glossy ember]

[olive ember]

I mean ig but it’s heavies are better psure

[olive ember]

Yeah I noticed

Builds uh

It’s alright it will work

It’s not completely trolling

[brave fiber]

I spam lights when I’m dancing around a horde and don’t have the luxury of charging

[olive ember]

I mean

Just use heavies then

[vapid lichen]

can always push attack if you need time to special or hold a heavy

[brave fiber]

lights are enough + they’re faster

all imo of course different playstyles

[midnight cove]

I like doing some light swings to quickly charge up true aim or whatever its called

Then just do a quick swap to voidstrike and wipe half the horde with a guaranteed surge

[ripe remnant]

I just tried HISTG heresy, got 151/300 and we got wiped right before the extraction

[rotund dagger]

Got a new mouse today lads

[spice veldt]

normal spam on illisi 🥲

[rotund dagger]

My smite works again

Assail no more

[spice veldt]

just use the Deimos if you're mainly using the normals

[ripe remnant]

I think I need someone to carry me

[spice veldt]

illisi and deimos normals are the same besides the stabs

[rotund dagger]

Spam Illisi Lights

[vapid lichen]

if you can aim, i say use a gun or a void staff and just pick off specials and elites over and over

[rich rose]

I mean, I just tried it out...it works (shrug)

[vapid lichen]

that's how i got mone

[spice veldt]

why bother with the illisi if you're not using the one exceptional part of it

[midnight cove]

Because it's quick and easy and it lets me block bullets :^)

[vapid lichen]

if you can't aim, then well, uh, sorry for your loss

[ripe remnant]

I can probably build with new revolver in mind, but I am using brain bust right now, since it oneshots specials

[spice veldt]

and the deimos has equivalent hordeclear with light spam and significantly better notmals

[ripe remnant]

It's the problem of having to track specials and play suboptimally

[spice veldt]

because the light combo on both the illisi and deimos are basically the same for hordeclear besides the deimos having the better light stab

[ripe remnant]

Because I have to rush forward to keep the counter

[midnight cove]

Mahbe it does, haven't played around with most psyker weapons tbh

[rich rose]

Yup. About to switch back to Deimos

[midnight cove]

My least played class

[brave fiber]

Illisi lights with what I run (slaughterer + shred) decimate hordes, I switch to heavies and special charge to kill elites

[midnight cove]

I'll give it a go thx

[ripe remnant]

And there is no easy way to track it, only small icon

[olive ember]

Should just run deimos then ngl

[shrewd holly]

This Penance is bullshit

[olive ember]

Deimos heavies for elites and light spam is the same

[spice veldt]

special heavies are the best for hordeclear if you can afford the peril and space and there is more than just a few enemies on screen

[olive ember]

Better movement too unless they changed that

[brave fiber]

Deimos lights aren’t as good for horde clear

The poke brings it down

[untold widget]

better for mixed hordes than not

[spice veldt]

you are vastly overestimating the lights on the illisi

keep in mind that the last 2 lights are uppercuts

[brave fiber]

Brother I’m not overestimating I’m literally just stating my experience using it

[untold widget]

I don't hold illisi in very high regard tbh

[glossy ember]

use knife

[spice veldt]

alright I have 1k hours on the illisi and I'll say that you're fucking wrong

[mighty cipher]

Arco! Does the MKIV knife share the same lunging mechanic that the MKIII has?

[spice veldt]

I don't use knives so I don't know

[mighty cipher]

God damnit

[brave fiber]

cool, anyways ima keep doing it because it’s effective for me and it’s fun

[shrewd holly]

Anyone wanna recomend me a mission for warp battery?

[spice veldt]

you can use it if it's fun

[mighty cipher]

Factually incorrect.
I refuse to elaborate.

[spice veldt]

but it's not optimal by any means compared to special spam

[untold widget]

you're right, i secretly love it?

[brave fiber]

how dare people use a weapon not exactly how you want them to

[ripe remnant]

Some of the challenges are busted. Like Malleus Monstronum also. I think it's impossible unless you play with a specific team of 3 shield ogryns.

[spice veldt]

and I quite dislike people who present illisi as a normal attack weapon when it's anything but

[olive ember]

Prob best bet is to ask pygex who apparently already has a god roll knife

[shrewd holly]

I did Malleus

not hard

Warp battery?

It's bs

[ripe remnant]

With randoms?

[spice veldt]

my main issue is that people present normal spam as if it were equivalent to special spam

which it isn't

[shrewd holly]

with one guy in discord?

[spice veldt]

if your main reason for using illisi normal is that it's fun, that's fine

[brave fiber]

I never did, I said it was effective

[hybrid glade]

Hows my fashion game?

[shrewd holly]

*from

[mighty cipher]

It’s literally a yes/no question if no is it faster/slower. ANYONE can answer it. Should I ping Pygex?

[spice veldt]

if your main reason for using illisi normals is the misperception that it's similarly effective as special spam, then I'm going to remedy that notion

[olive ember]

Oh

I think it’s faster

[brave fiber]

I even slapped an “imo” to make sure people don’t get tilted

[olive ember]

But I’m also normally running the new knife on stealth zealot

Which naturally gets speedy boost

[mighty cipher]

FUCK I might have to redo that section of the description then.

[ripe remnant]

It could probably work with specific build and if you don't get bent by AI director spawning 5 trappers while you're fighting

[untold widget]

this turned out ok

[olive ember]

Idk if it’s as fast as the other knife but

[untold widget]

replace precog with uncanny

[spice veldt]

still a wrong opinion

[brave fiber]

Counterpoint, I only said it’s effective. Full stop. Period.

[olive ember]

If you go to zealot and try running around with it it’s noticeably faster while holding heavies

[mighty cipher]

Compared to the MKIII?

[shrewd holly]

It wasn't hard, just wait for a "weaker monstrosities" modyfier

[olive ember]

Idk compared with mk 3 tbh since I don’t use knife enough

Prob go ask zealot chat tbh

[ripe remnant]

That might work

[olive ember]

They have a decent amount of knofe users

[mighty cipher]

I tried, but I’ll try again

[olive ember]

😅

Someone said faster in other discord

[ripe remnant]

It's still bs that you have to look for a specific team to complete some penances that give items

And that they made them harder

[shrewd holly]

it is yeah

[harsh urchin]

you can thank your compatriots for that

people complained

that their games were being ruined

due to other ppl trying to do them

so fatshark changed them to be private only

[ripe remnant]

What for? I got this game just 2 weeks ago

[untold widget]

yeah I still need to do malleus, but I don't really get to do premade privates so it's tough

[olive ember]

Basically some penances are like super troll

[ripe remnant]

Warp battery isn't private but I think it's still bs and much harder than just completing some missions

[olive ember]

So you would have people try to complete their penances and if they failed they would just leave

Like out with a bang is literally just suiciding

[brave fiber]

twas a toxic time

[olive ember]

Zealots has a penance that was beating the mission in 20 minutes (speedrun) with less than one wound of hp for 80% of the game

[harsh urchin]

i mean they are challenges for a reason lol

[olive ember]

Vets had a 100% accuracy penance where they would leave the moment they missed a shot

[brave fiber]

part of me likes that they changed it but part of me still wants to get my last psyker penance to kill a monstrosity with mostly BB

[harsh urchin]

they're meant to be challenging

[ripe remnant]

Yeah but I read they made it more challenging

[harsh urchin]

no lol

they made them way easier

they used to be way harder

[olive ember]

Warp battery is probably harder

[ripe remnant]

That you have to be killing elites instead of just BB'ing random enemies

[olive ember]

Everything else is easy as shot compared to when I did them

[brave fiber]

the new talents made all the BB penances a lot easier

[olive ember]

Except maybe warp battery tho I think it’s not particularly hard rn either

[ripe remnant]

But how do you complete it then?

I guess it's skill issue

For me

Maybe people that run auric damnation can complete in no problem

[harsh urchin]

what build are you running mostly

[misty cypress]

damage on this feels weak. is it because of my damage stat or is the staff just weak?

[harsh urchin]

which weapons/skills

[ripe remnant]

Purgatus+BB for this challenge

[harsh urchin]

yeah purg is gonna be pretty rough for this challenge

[untold widget]

mostly true

[harsh urchin]

I suggest you take a build that's better at killing specials/elites

such as voidstrike or surge

it'll be easier to maintain high stacks than purg

[olive ember]

I did it back in heresy by complete accident without going for it with BB, the main thing is just that before you could save yourself from dropping by quickly using BB under KB which you can’t do now

[vast yew]

HISTG =/= Scab Melee Maelstrom, and the elite density on Heresy is less than Damnation.
I think you still should've been able to get it, but you might've needed to ask the party to explicitly give you the random specialist spawns in between hordes

[olive ember]

But I imagine I try big enough hordes you’ll get it just naturally

[ripe remnant]

Problem isn't killing them, it's finding them

[harsh urchin]

basically the tl;dr for this challenge is kill a lot of elites/specials and dont drop your stacks

ye so up the difficulty

[olive ember]

The only other advice I can give is a fire build that way you can roll the 10% on fire

[harsh urchin]

and kill more shit

[untold widget]

they make noise when they spawn

[brave fiber]

Which you can potentially just get accidentally by playing well

[untold widget]

echolocate

[olive ember]

Like a purge staff into a horde should get the charges real quick

[misty cypress]

still looking for some experience with surge on this question

[vast yew]

The only problem with this challenge with Purg is if there's more than 45 seconds between hordes you have a good chance of dropping a stack

[untold widget]

I just held 6 charges for most of a mission by just precharging brain burst and popping specials when they come around the corner

and just never venting

[harsh urchin]

you can try rerolling the perks

[olive ember]

It’s because surge is meh

[brave fiber]

Dmg stat def doesn’t help

[olive ember]

But some people love it

[harsh urchin]

but low stats is bad yeah

[brave fiber]

Also make sure you have warp siphon

[olive ember]

And yeah 65% damage is a no go

[shrewd holly]

Gonna do high intensiry shocktroop gauntlet for warp battery, wish meluck

[misty cypress]

thanks yall

[olive ember]

It’s like the one stat on surge that matters besides charge rate

[ripe remnant]

How do you not vent?

[vast yew]

65 damage is a bit off, but also Unarmored Perk isn't going to help

[olive ember]

Gl

[lethal lagoon]

Damage isn't great, but you have full perk control on that staff.

Try out Flak and Manic/Carpace/Unyielding and see what sticks.

[misty cypress]

what perks should I get for key breakpoints

[vast yew]

Flak 100%

[brave fiber]

Flak and maniac is imo good for everything

[olive ember]

Flak + maniac or unarmoured iirc

[brave fiber]

Carapace is only for crushers now

[harsh urchin]

flak + elites/maniac/unyielding

is my suggestion

[vast yew]

2nd is a toss-up between Maniac/Carapace/Unyielding or maybe even Elites/Crit Chance?

[harsh urchin]

no crit chance

[vast yew]

eh yeah crit chance is high enough

One of the others then

[lethal lagoon]

Keep in mind surge is super fast, so you should be spamming it. Think in terms of DPS instead of just damage.

[olive ember]

It’s dps ain’t that great either kekw

[misty cypress]

is a specialist just any non horde mob?

[olive ember]

3 charges to kill one crusher is yikes

[lethal lagoon]

3s to kill a crusher isn't really yikes 🤷‍♂️

Plus the offshoots

[brave fiber]

Specialists are all the disablers, elites are just stronger dudes

Also flamers and snipers are specialists

[misty cypress]

does surge always hit centermass? like the chest

[lethal lagoon]

Plus, ranged mobs will die to an instant right click left click.

[brave fiber]

Now it does yes

[glossy ember]

shame about that damage stat damn, but at least flexible perks is pog

[olive ember]

https://streamable.com/ehl74z

[glossy ember]

yeah hence why flak perk most important cuz almost everything is gonna be flak

[olive ember]

It’s pretty bad

[lethal lagoon]

Perfect conditions for a weapon that just dropped? I mean it's funny af, but not really applicable.

[brave fiber]

Who would win: a hammer enchanted by the emperor’s holy power or one hit from the funny shovel

[olive ember]

Bro I watched a rando delete 3 crushers in one hit in an actual game

You can say it’s overtuned ig

It’s not some impossible condition

[glossy ember]

just dont use surge staff on crushers problem solved

[vast yew]

Roger Roger, using Purgatus on them instead

[olive ember]

Just don’t use surge staff FTFY

[lethal lagoon]

Purg crusher meta.

[brave fiber]

Surge should have a bonus to enemies that have carapace on them tbh, it conducts electricity

[lethal lagoon]

That's the opposite.

It should do nothing to carpace.

Logically speaking

[glossy ember]

ugh

[brave fiber]

wym

I failed physics

[vast yew]

Carapace is Ceramite armor, which is ceramic

it's not metal in the lore, technically

[lethal lagoon]

The lightning would travel around the metal to the ground, doing virtually nothing.

Oh

[brave fiber]

oh, thought it was metal, makes sense

[olive ember]

https://streamable.com/tn0m3b

[lethal lagoon]

Then let's go!

[brave fiber]

Well if it was metal it would still shock the squishy ogryn inside

[lethal lagoon]

Nope.

[vast yew]

nah it'd act like a Faraday cage

[olive ember]

If it’s metal the electricity would conduct around an ogryn

[brave fiber]

huh

TIL

[olive ember]

It’s why it’s safer to sit in a car during a storm than outside

[vast yew]

or an airplane

[lethal lagoon]

The car isn't grounded.

So safe for a given value

[brave fiber]

my dumbass thought electricity just like… made metal super dangerous to touch no matter what

[lethal lagoon]

metal can be dangerous if it's not grounded.

[vast yew]

that'd be the good ole video game effect

[olive ember]

It kinda depends yeah

[lethal lagoon]

If you touch a car that's been shocked, you could die.

Cause it's not grounded.

So safe inside the car, and do not touch any metal while getting out.

[olive ember]

The only thing I do know is that you don’t want to form a loop

Cuz you don’t want the current to pass through your heart

[vast yew]

less a loop and more a path from positive to negative; with a battery or most power sources that's a loop

but it can also be from source to you to the ground

[brave fiber]

so I CANT put jumper cables on my arms to use as weapons

damn

[icy wyvern]

It is safer to be overly cautious of electricity than overly comfortable

[olive ember]

I have a loose socket next to my bed and I have lights plugged there. Part of the light plug is exposed kekw

[icy wyvern]

go go gadget cigarette lighter

[olive ember]

Therefore I keep the light off most of the time, this is my excuse for why I live like a gremlin in a cave

[vast yew]

Electricity is pretty spooky, one of the things I 100% do not mess around with

[icy wyvern]

Steam: cool, easy to understand
electricity: unhinged, speaks in tongues

[vast yew]

The nice thing about Electricity is that it is incredibly predictable, which means it can be incredibly safe when in the right, controlled environment

hence why you could, say, touch both ends of a car battery and be completely fine

[idle aurora]

Bruh, fix it. Or call somebody to do it, stuff like this is just a disaster in the making

[vast yew]

he wants the insurance money when his house burns down

[olive ember]

my parents don’t have the money ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Or so they say

[vast yew]

Ask them if they have the money to replace the house

[olive ember]

Probably but

They don’t act like it

Using fucking single ply toilet paper

Dying of cringe

[rich rose]

Yea. Ran that Voidstrike powersword build again but this time with the Deimos, WAY better or at least felt much better

[olive ember]

I just make sure there’s nothing close to the socket when I turn the lights on tbh

I have a table lamp in the room otherwise

[idle aurora]

this is honestly scary, lol, not caring to fix an electric hazard

[icy wyvern]

voidstrike will kill the things that are far

deimos will kill the things that are close

brain burst will kill the things that are running

[vast yew]

I personally like Smite on Voidstrike for "oh shit" moments

melee is completely up to preference tho

[icy wyvern]

i simply do not have oh shit moments

im built different

[olive ember]

Is it really an oh shit moment if every moment is an oh shit moment

[rich rose]

made a new voidstrike so gonna try this slight change

[vast yew]

No that's just the average "Specialist Monstrosity" mission when it throws 2 beasts of nurgle at you at once

[icy wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/nervous-gif-25104733

I haven't gotten too much use out of warp flurry

[rich rose]

oops wrong pic lol, went Surge and Transfer Peril

[icy wyvern]

Trying to get nexus and surge

but surge eludes me

[vast yew]

oh was about to say "oh no, not Crit Damage"

Surge/Transfer works but has the issue where you delete hordes (assuming True Aim) but then can't get a crit to save your life against a lone Crusher

[rich rose]

I'll post after, already on a new run

[vast yew]

g'luck

[icy wyvern]

behold: drip

the mark of a man who went to hell and back to finish warp battery

[vast yew]

immaculate drip sibling

[robust mountain]

Dear Psykers, please refrain from typing "I am bout to blow" in chat when overheating.

Sincerly,
Zealot.

[eager mantle]

I'll do it again

[violet oak]

Dear Zealots, if you dont want my hot steamy warp fire all over your face, don't come running

[brave fiber]

I’m gonna do it even harder now

[lethal lagoon]

Wait, so what exactly is flaming shriek....

[meager cedar]

“Let the warp flow~”

[violet oak]

Uncontrollable yelling
Spasm of muscles
Suspicious materials ejected from the psyker

[topaz sleet]

hey does distrupt destiny even work?

[untold widget]

define work?

[topaz sleet]

i have not seen any indicaiton of it working

like no icon of it or anything

[short lodge]

it works, but i've had a bug where nothing gives me stacks

[topaz sleet]

it also doesnt seem to show if enemies been marked

[short lodge]

always had the marks tho

[topaz sleet]

and no icon on buff bar shows up when you do have stacks of it

like is it just bugged currently?

[short lodge]

if you're in the Psykhanium, it doesn't work on the default enemies in there

[olive ember]

Unless they fixed it disrupt destiny buff icons randomly bug out

[topaz sleet]

oh Oof

[olive ember]

That too if you are testing it in vanilla meat grinder

But even in game the icons bug out

[short lodge]

only works with AI On

[olive ember]

DD in general is kinda mid iirc

[short lodge]

???

it's p strong

[olive ember]

Most cases you are better off taking warp charges or ep

[ripe yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-anger-pixar-inside-out-aaah-gif-20746682

[olive ember]

It’s the worst of the three except for niche builds

If you aren’t using staves or assail then DD would probably be the biggest benefit but

[short lodge]

the buff is p strong on anything that crits or headshots

and it's quite easy to keep up in practice

[fading depot]

I yell "I'M ABOUT TO BUUUUUST"

[icy wyvern]

HNNNNNNNG

[topaz sleet]

oh ok now i see it working

[robust mountain]

Id prefer if no one would come at all on our deployment.

[fading depot]

Well now you're just taking all the fun out of the game

[topaz sleet]

so what about empowered psionics?

[olive ember]

Nub psykers let it out at once

[fading depot]

EP is a solid choice

[eager mantle]

It marks a random enemy (this can bug out) and that enemy has to be like a rifleman and up. It won't mark a random poxwalker. Kill them for precision stacks. It's simple to understand, yet temperamental in feeling like it's marking enemies appropriately

[fading depot]

If you run assail, EP is best

[olive ember]

Good Psykers let it out in burst and set everyone on fire

[robust mountain]

Aight Mr Nuke it all.
Tell me about fun then.

[eager mantle]

Sometimes I kill something when I bust

[topaz sleet]

tho what about warp siphon then?

its what im using currently

[fading depot]

It's great

It's what I prefer to use with brain burst and smite

Especially with shriek

[topaz sleet]

im currently running with it with the warp shield(the full bubble one)

allowing me to use it more often

its been working great so far

[fading depot]

What blitz?

[eager mantle]

Warp siphon is great. You get stacks that give you dmg and less peril generation that only time out or spent on ability use. Can't really go wrong with it.

[topaz sleet]

oh ok

im also currently running smite

lightning staff and Mark IV force sword

im currently wanting to get deflector on the sword so i can block range attacks

and also more block effiency it has as well

[strong gulch]

Thank you! Enjoyable watch.

[topaz sleet]

and with the surge staff i been yeeting all sorts of enemyes

or just stun locking them with smite

been hilarious really

[willow hazel]

Deflector isn't bad, but it's not really needed. Running 2 offensive blessings is probably better

[solar sand]

How much health/toughness do you need to not get one shot by overhead mauler attack?

[lethal lagoon]

One

[untold widget]

None, you just dodge

they mail you the date and time of the overhead 3 weeks in advance as it is

[spice veldt]

I can take one with ~40 hp remainings iirc; 200 toughness and ~180 hp?

[solar sand]

(Basically) Only time I get downed on pysker was a sneaky mauler that was dressed in purple

Also, how exactly do dodges and breaking tracking work

[untold widget]

wait till they commit

too early and they ballerina pivot and smash you

[solar sand]

Sometimes I’ll dodge 3 times during a wind up and swing and it still hits me, others I’ll dodge once .1cm into the wall behind me and the crusher bonks me straight on the head but does no damage

It feels inconsistent

[spice veldt]

dodge too early and your melee i-frame equivalent will be gone by the point that the attack goes through

[solar sand]

But maybe that’s just my understanding

[spice veldt]

dodging against melee essentially "shortens" the attack

[untold widget]

I basically stab during the wind up and then dodge as the chainaxe/maul is coming down

[spice veldt]

mauler/crusher overheads get "shortened" a lot by dodges, so the timing component of dodges is particularly relevant against them

[untold widget]

assuming more than 1 are going at me. if it's just one mauler I just Heavy stab special stab

and they get staggered

[solar sand]

Been playing ogryn more and it seem the bigger hit box reduces the tolerance of dodges and it’s making me feel like the dodge system is wack, almost a coin flip

Like I can dodge most things very consistently but when it doesn’t dodge I rarely feel like it was cause I messed up the dodge

[untold widget]

pretty reliable for me

you also run out of dodges if you do too many in a short time

so that could be it

[spice veldt]

there's some inconsistent stuff as well esp in multiplayer games

the game has some lag compensation in the player's favor for some attacks

[solar sand]

I feel like I’ve noticed actual lag for the first time this patch also

But that’s unrelated

[cedar shore]

are there friendly fire in darktide, why do my teammate stop attacking the moment I use smite

[copper torrent]

Stop stunning your teammates.

[solar sand]

Teammates: “Must shoot BR target”
Also teammates: “Must not shoot smite targets”
Oh the duality of teammates as pysker

[cedar shore]

smite stuns teammate as well?

[solar sand]

No, I think they’re joking

[cedar shore]

k because from my past few games where I stun a whole horde and they dodge to the side and leave the whole horde alone really makes me question whether there is ff

[solar sand]

lol no you just have bad teammates

[cedar shore]

and these are all different players too

[spice veldt]

if this is a pure horde (groaners/poxwalkers), then yeah I'm leaving a smited horde alone

[cedar shore]

some elite mixed in which i pinged but somehow they are still untouched. But the moment I play BB psyker the very moment I start the charge up they pop the head

[untold widget]

It do be a problem

[solar sand]

I think most people don’t know what smite does other than stun

[untold widget]

that's why I sneak charge it and then surprise burst once it's ready to go

SNIPE THIS YOU FUCK

[solar sand]

Or that it (virtually) deals no damage on its own

Rmb BR made it so much better for me

Lmb ends in sadness so often

I had a lot of issues with BR till I got used to it, now I really like it

[untold widget]

another fun thing is doing EP brain burst and holding a no-peril RMB brain burst without ever detonating and just leading the vets around like a cat with a laser pointer

"yes, yes. Now this one. Goood."

[solar sand]

Unironically blue head is better for getting teammates to shoot a target than actually pinging it

[shrewd holly]

Trying to do warp battery has turned darktide into a rage game

whoever came up with that penance is evil

[untold widget]

Do you want me to make you feel better?

[shrewd holly]

you cant

[untold widget]

When I did warp battery, My first BEST attempt didn't make it. I get out of mission.

299/300

[cedar shore]

Im getting conflicting message here. In the general chat they say that only good players leave the whole horde alone when they are smited.

[shrewd holly]

I smite a horde so you can kill it

Good players kill the smited horde

[solar sand]

So smite is the best horde clear in the game (when combined with creeping) so there’s ideally no need to touch a smited horde (if that’s how the smite is built)

[untold widget]

I'm a psyker, Hordes don't get to exist for longer than 5 seconds.

[spice veldt]

who knows what's in the mind of people who leave elites and specials alone

I usually just snipe the elites/specials and move on

[solar sand]

You can throw 5 groaners or 5000 at creeping and once you get to 82% it’s over either way for them

[cedar shore]

do you guys smite all the way to 100% or release after it reached maximum jump

[solar sand]

Act like you’re on wsb and you bought GME

I hold that shit generally

[cedar shore]

creeping?

[solar sand]

Once the cc goes down that’s when issues happen

Creeping flames, shrieking side talent

[cedar shore]

no i didnt spec into creep im using shield

[solar sand]

So personally

My 2 main try hand builds

[untold widget]

Shield is for when you don't have smite

[solar sand]

Are smite creeping shriek surge, and BR EP purgatis bubble

Smite is so mid on its own tbh, the cc is nice but if you can’t capitalize on it it’s (near) worthless imo

My highest damage games I’ve had 1mil+ have all been using 80%+ smite

Actually I broke 1mil once with purg bubbles

[shrewd holly]

I'VE BEEN DOING HIGH INTENSITY SHOCKTROOP GAUNTLETS ON DAMNATION BACK TO BACK TO BACK FOR FOUR HOURS

[solar sand]

There’s your issue

[shrewd holly]

WHERE IS MY WARP BATTERY

[solar sand]

Heresy Mael

[shrewd holly]

Not enough enemies on heresy

[solar sand]

There’s plenty

But

On heresy you can live without your ability

[untold widget]

how high did you get?

[solar sand]

Good luck doing that on damnation

[shrewd holly]

283

[untold widget]

pretty decent attempt

where did you drop at?

was it a missed elite, or a gap between that was too long?

[shrewd holly]

Gap

[untold widget]

So you weren't aggressive enough

[solar sand]

I did it on my third match of heresy^\mael

Surge staff I think

[untold widget]

stuff triggers based on progress, so you gotta move to the next shit quick when you finish a room

[solar sand]

That’d be my suggestion, damnation too hard to give up ability and be ok imo

[untold widget]

I honestly did mine in a troll way, entirely with brain burst and staying in the back and popping specials

and only popping specials

I didn't do hordes, I didn't do event mechanics

just charged brain burst anytime a sound queue happened and then blew up whatver came around the corner instantly

[solar sand]

I play pretty fast so density wasn’t an issue, I’m almost always at the front

[shrewd holly]

Bro I move as fast as I can

[solar sand]

I’ll be home in a few, can do a private heresy where I support you to get the kills, should be an easy way to do it

[shrewd holly]

nah, I'll be fine, I'll try it one or two more time

[feral knoll]

Psyker moment

[untold widget]

aight, time for more plasteel farming

Melk has tempted me, Siblings.

[solar sand]

I haven’t used the new one much but I have an 80/80/80/80 everything but shredder chainsword I use as my horde clear on vet till I get power cycler 4 and it slaps

Rampage and cleave on hit

[untold widget]

I'm just eyeballing that rev up 4

[west stream]

got me a 370 laspistol but it's gray

so entirely possible rolls make it terrible

but I shall burn plasteel on that hill

[untold widget]

Good luck!

[mighty cipher]

That’s just a bugged fire moment

[silent coral]

finally

[deft lintel]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2982870361

[fading depot]

We flexin our blades?

i got lucky

[strong gulch]

All wrong perks and blessings. On brand Melk... on brand.

[ocean cipher]

lmfao i just discovered "solved a crash caused by dodging 14 attacks in a row with pskyer's force sword".

[strong gulch]

uhhhh lol

[ocean cipher]

wonder how many other bugs like that exist

"Fixed a crash caused by reloading the agripinaa braced autogun with 7 bullets in the mag twice in a row after damaging a beast of nurgle"

[strong gulch]

what the

Hadron did not brick this. NOICE

[icy wyvern]

So +75% damage at close range

thats wack

[severe folio]

i think its kind of weak

[icy wyvern]

"I'm just eyeballing that rev up 4"

my internet is super on the fritz

and all i wanna do is play online games

ik its not because my wife is downloading pictures of broccoli in high def

she slep

i got this drippy ass outfit and i keep disconnecting

[fresh reef]

I love that every staff on psyker is viable

this was BB/rectangle/purgatus

[fresh reef]

what error code are you getting from DCs?

[untold niche]

For warp flurry what counts as continuous fire?
Basically can't quell?

[fresh reef]

you can quell

you just need to chain another m2 before the buff wears off

[strong gulch]

There is a window that lets you keep flurry stacks up while quelling.

[jovial zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/post-this-cat-when-they-least-expect-it-gif-18306501333321204879

[viscid matrix]

there is a buff on your buff bar

[zenith zealot]

uh.. weakspot and carapace dmg is kinda ass

altho ig u can just replace those two

but then u'd miss out on replacing the t3 blessing

u can probs keep weakspot and replace only carap

[untold niche]

Oh I see. Thanks peepol I will go try it out in psk

[fallow dock]

So guys you may have seen me asking the most stupid questions possible in #veteran-class, but I'd also like to figure out a psyker brain rupture build. I heard it's not as good as the other two blitzes, but just so I know before I commit to it can it still hold its own on higher difficulties?

[strong gulch]

This is just how it rolled pre change. 👍

[zenith zealot]

100%

so i would recommend doing a empowered psyonics build with psyker brain rupter

and bring a staff that'll help u clear hordes, like purgatus, voidstrike, or trauma, personally i use voidstrike

[untold widget]

BB really shores up the weakness of Purgatus in lack of range. Also good with a Dueling 4 or Deimos for dealing with crushers

[zenith zealot]

bring empowered psyonics with overpowering souls, the combination of these two will allow u to one shot or two shot every elite

[fallow dock]

I really like Trauma but would it work with such a build? Also I was thinking run the Maccabian sabre since more attacks means more melee brain bursts, but is this valid?

[zenith zealot]

and it'll allow u to chain guaranteed empowered psyonics against gunner hordes, shotgunner hordes, rager hordes, flak rager horde

[zenith zealot]

dont rely on random brainbursts

u kill crushers with the maccabian sabre

and use staff for chaff

[strong gulch]

BB /BR is useful depending on your build. You can really build into with EP.

But I only really use BB on my fire trauma build for snipers, bosses, or squirrely specials. That's unmodified BB without EP because WS is expensive to build into. BB + purg is also nice.

[zenith zealot]

the random brainburst will help from a far, but up close u dont wanna rely on it much

[bright mica]

I am considering Riposte + Flesh Tearer on the new knife but it's rlly gonna struggle against anything tanky lol

[zenith zealot]

if far away use your brainburst

[strong gulch]

If you really like kinetic flayer (random BB) or have a spare point, then use it. Otherwise it doesn't generally provide much compared to what else is available.

[zenith zealot]

trauma will work but is definitely the weaker option in my opinion

random brainburst is fine, but its a side thing not a main thing, dont rely on it popping too much

[bright mica]

kinetic flayer is kinda ass, rarely procs on anything useful sadly

[strong gulch]

Has a cool down and can't proc at high peril too

[zenith zealot]

that's why u go with something that can one shot chaff

like voidstrike

so that it wont proc on useless things

cant proc if u oneshot them

[strong gulch]

Trauma is aoe not single target. It's damage shines in a different way than VS.

Trauma as main damage is often played at high peril.

Especially fire trauma.

[harsh urchin]

how much have you played with it? which builds have you tried with it

[zenith zealot]

imo, problem with trauma is lack of actual range

[harsh urchin]

it's actually surprisingly better than you would think

[bright mica]

I've tried it quite a bit, it's just rarely worth a point for me is all

[strong gulch]

Don't ignore LMB.

[bright mica]

It's like a magical haymaker

[harsh urchin]

due to the fact that generally it does in fact pop on the things you want it to

it probably does need a bit of a buff

[fallow dock]

Alr I wasn't planning on relying on it but I just thought it would be better to optimize the extra bonus on it haha, but yes I totalyl se your point now

[bright mica]

Wish that was my case lol it loves to pop on random dregs

[zenith zealot]

idk bout u but i aint gonna shoot gunner hordes with that

[bright mica]

or shooters

[strong gulch]

Scattered shooters can be managed but is a weakspot of trauma.

[zenith zealot]

yea focus more on actually killing the target

[strong gulch]

You can blast them feet

[bright mica]

I remember running it for 3 aurics straight and not once has it come in useful sadly

[zenith zealot]

only time i use lmb on trauma, voidstrike, and such is when dealing with that single gunner

or bomber, or trapper, whatnot

basically when there's only 1 or 2

u just focus on trying to kill the target with the heaviest damage u can deal, random brainburst will finish them if u cant

one shotting crushers with a single dueling sword stab due to kinetic flayer is always satisfying

[tired knoll]

its a waste of a talent point ngl

[strong gulch]

The ranged suppression and interruption on LMB is slept on.

[zenith zealot]

idk, but i dont see it suppressing enough gunners

[fallow dock]

Random bb u mean?

[tired knoll]

yeah

[zenith zealot]

yea he means that, but i do what i want

[strong gulch]

ok

[zenith zealot]

also random brainburst benefits from empowered psyonics

so it deals extra dmg if u have a stack

[fallow dock]

😋

[zenith zealot]

also double brainburst is a thing

u can proc random brainburst with brainburst

it'll help give it an extra kick from time to time vs beefier targets

u may also want to bring charged up, which gives u 3 stacks of empowered psyonics

3 stacks of empowered psyonics will allow u to burst bosses with quite a bit of dmg to start

[feral verge]

Kinetic flayer is a joke

[zenith zealot]

and is enough to finish 2 crushers, if u have overpowering soul to get a guarantee stack back on the first crusher kill

[feral verge]

Random target damage every 15 seconds or whatever

I'd never pick kinetic flayer

[zenith zealot]

see, if u can one shot the weaker dudes, kinetic flayer wont proc on them

so that's imo on u, if your kinetic flayer keeps going on weak dudes

[feral verge]

If you like it because it's funny, all the power to you

But on a serious build? Hell nah

[bright mica]

oh fun

so this can happen

[zenith zealot]

oh yea lol

[bright mica]

anyway my riposte + flesh tearer new knife actually kinda fucks

[zenith zealot]

alt f4 then rejoin

[bright mica]

nahh

imma just find a new game

those guys were boring

[zenith zealot]

well u got all the crit talents

flesh tearer gon slap hard

[bright mica]

yup

with riposte proccing all the time

giving me an extra 20%

[zenith zealot]

in a horde, oh yea

[bright mica]

anti armor surprisingly still okay

[zenith zealot]

any random dodge will most definitely give u riposte

[bright mica]

just special light heavy heavy chain

[zenith zealot]

the first atk after the special is count as a heavy

it procs haymaker

[bright mica]

ik but special light spam on new knife is nerfed

[zenith zealot]

but ofc it doesnt deal as much dmg as a regular heavy, since its very fast

[bright mica]

its not as fast as OG knife

you cant just boink slap boink slap it seems

[zenith zealot]

u sure u're not just holding the button down?

[bright mica]

maybe? lemme check in this game

but it seemed like it had a big ole delay

and was just a lot slower

[zenith zealot]

last time soneone said that he was holding the button down after i asked

ima also get one new knife on my siker

[bright mica]

nope im right yea

big ass delay

anyway back to game bai

[zenith zealot]

bai

[spice veldt]

so, you'd have to go into a single-target build that doesn't cleave (damage falloff) to make sure that it doesn't proc on trash

and no AoEs either (trauma/vstrike/purg)

and even if it only procs on significant targets, it is very middling

[feral verge]

Lmfao disregard what arco said . So incorrect and just in name gibberish

But yeah, so, you'd have to go into a single-target build that doesn't cleave (damage falloff) to make sure that it doesn't proc on trash

and no AoEs either (trauma/vstrike/purg) and even if it only procs on significant targets, it is very middling

[untold widget]

we arguing that kinetic flayer is bad still?

[spice veldt]

die

[spice veldt]

you son of a bitch

[untold widget]

Remember when dude said that KF accounts for probably 100k damage over the course of an 800k game, and then took it off and dropped 100k in overkill damage as a result?

[zenith zealot]

voidstrike aoe can one shot chaffs

[spice veldt]

the AoE can not

[zenith zealot]

and idk, one shotting crushers in a crusher horde is prtty helpful

[zenith zealot]

i mean the ball itself

[spice veldt]

the projectile has two parts--the epicentre, and the explosion

[zenith zealot]

the big blue ball

[spice veldt]

the explosion AoE s able to proc flayer

[zenith zealot]

well, personally i dont mind it proccing on chaff

[feral verge]

Lol

[zenith zealot]

i've been using it forever on voidstrike afterall

[untold widget]

my mans loves overkill

[feral verge]

I'd pick any feat over it

[zenith zealot]

its still one more guy dead

[feral verge]

Any node

[zenith zealot]

i got no other feats that actually looks impactful to trade with it

[untold widget]

the only blitz I augment is Assail tbh

[feral verge]

The enemy of contrazoid

[spice veldt]

a probabilistic effect that dinks a target

you can make it good, but you're also dedicating a good part of your build specifically to make it good

[feral verge]

Interesting phrase

[zenith zealot]

contrazoid can do his thing, i dont mind

he stick to his corner, i'll stick to mine

[bright mica]

we failed but this setup actually works, still took out the most maulers and crushers too without uncanny lol

had most kills and most melee kills even though there were 2 other zealots

auric viable but my team fell apart because nobody except me seemed to kill bombers/flamers

but yea! give it a try, riposte prob isnt meta on it but having damn near 100% crit chance once it procs with gaze is very nice

[potent echo]

auric viable doesnt mean much

since the game ebbs and flows so much

[bright mica]

It means I'd run this on Auric

instead of it just being a meme fun build for Damnation

[hexed geyser]

I didn't know that low of a stat was possible to buy

[bright mica]

average aliexpress knife

[potent echo]

0% rolls be like

[bright mica]

is Surge with EP worth it or nah

Smite I mean

[mighty cipher]

Got Surge in 3.7k Plasteel

[untold widget]

Smite is for CC. You're better off with Warp Siphon for damage on your actual damaging stuff like staves and melee

unless you're running malice, in which case kinda I guess

because nothing has any health

so the terrible damage actually does something

plus the peril reduction with WS means you can smite for longer

for the most braindead of teammate carry potential

[bright mica]

Yeah I've tried it, kinda ass

gonna just go back to Assail on this gunker, saves me a lot of ammo

Was just hoping I could vary things up oh well

[untold widget]

I wouldn't use smite on a gunker anyways, as assail does what you said

[magic wind]

What’s the best dueling sword for psyker?

[untold widget]

4

IV*

by a long margin as well

[magic wind]

Oh cool! What blessings and perks?

[untold widget]

Uncanny strike 3+, and your choice of rampage, shred, precog

and perks are generally flak and maniac

but depends on how lucky your roll is

uncanny is almost required

I also like flak over maniac

[magic wind]

Don’t shred and rampage basically do the same thing to hoards or is the dueling sword just for bulky guys

[untold widget]

for bulky guys

you're better off with a staff for hordes (except surge)

and creeping flames shout

[magic wind]

Does shred work with heavy attacks?

[untold widget]

any repeated hit I think

[magic wind]

Cool! Thank you!

[untold widget]

theres also an argument to be made for Uncanny/Riposte combo with Empathic Evasion for ranged fire evasion tanking while meleeing

[untold widget]

Also keep an eye on your special attack. It's instant, staggers even crushers and ragers out of their attack patterns, and generates uncanny stacks. Heavy stab into Special stab will stunlock and delete any ogryn (bulwarks have to get their shield staggered before you can stab them though)

[left crater]

dueling sword 2, rampage or shred?

[wide maple]

both?

Has anyone done any datamining on Kinetic Flayer?

[untold niche]

Most annoying thing when playing voidstrike is when my team keeps fall-staggering all the elites

[wide maple]

don't matter, KEEP SPAMMING

[untold niche]

i shoot rager horde head

3 headshots missed because 3 stagger fals

falls

by the time the fourth shot comes all of them are dead

[wide maple]

But on that front, I have been noticing something weird with voidstrike

Sometimes on the charge shots I'm hearing multiple brain burst sounds from kinetic flayer

Does Kinetic flayer just apply a brain burst tag to the bolt and bypass the cd?

[mighty cipher]

Why? It does exactly what it says, unlike most abilities

[wide maple]

Cause its behaving weird with the piercing charge attack on voidstrike

[mighty cipher]

It doesn’t Can’t activate if you instakill something

[wide maple]

but its doing it when I dont instakill stuff

multiple bursts on one bolt

[mighty cipher]

It fucking what

[wide maple]

or at least it appeared to

[mighty cipher]

That’s probably a visual bug

[south gull]

Blazing sprit 4 exists right?

[mighty cipher]

Yes

[south gull]

[urban sandal]

for force swords, not for staves

[south gull]

this blessing is as rare as cycler 4

[untold niche]

i spent alot of time on surge and surgical

[south gull]

surge i can see

I always get surgical on my vet

[wide maple]

Its hard to test what the hell is going on in the meatgrinder since it purges corpses

but I swear I saw groups in my last round that all played the brain burst animation and had the effect on the corpse

https://tenor.com/view/whats-going-on-the-office-jim-what-is-going-on-wtf-gif-3926604

[violet oak]

i love it when the crossplay psyker goes down every 5 seconds and does effectively no damage

Truly the pinnacle of gaming

[lyric burrow]

on staffs yes on swords no

er

other way around

[violet oak]

I have gone insane, time to blow up some rations

[hoary minnow]

Say, folks. I know that with an Ogryn and a club, your slaps can stun everything, even Monstrosities, and even Daemonhosts. But what about Psyker with a Rapier?

I can stun Mutants.

Even Crushers.

With the Rapier special.

But what about bosses?

[lyric burrow]

dont think it stun locks bosses like the slap does no

[hoary minnow]

Shame.

Well.

I was able to stagger Rodin and that other dude.

By stabbing him in the face with that.

[severe folio]

you can stun captains and the twin with deimos heavy stab

[lyric burrow]

yeah deimos H2 knocks over most things

[opal gyro]

Only lvl 10, but I don't think I've ever seen a stat that low even at lvl 1

[urban sandal]

level 30 pen roll

[opal gyro]

[hoary minnow]

I noticed that they've been getting modifiers THAT low since the patch.

I also got weapons like that, with something as paltry low as 1%

This never happened to me pre-Traitor Curse part 2 update.

[opal gyro]

I've certainly been getting worse rolls in general lately, at least in terms of struggling to get anything above 320 on lvl 30 characters

[willow hazel]

maybe finally time to go for the 0% peril resist force swords

[hoary minnow]

lmao, is this like a bug or something?

Or is this an actual intended gameplay design now?

[ornate hamlet]

Just RNG

It was possible way before the patch

[echo turtle]

It drops a crusher to the ground. The only thing it doesn't drop is bosses

[mighty cipher]

It’s rare. You think you’ve been seeing it more when you’re really just seeing them for the first time since you’ve been playing longer

[untold widget]

A5HISTG on the Warren level is pretty fun

[fluid knot]

You can? Fucking lol

[untold niche]

bristly had a 0% before the patch so...

i can't take damnation seriously
idk i would always have one death due to me fucking around and not sticking to team
but we would always win regardless :v

[hoary minnow]

DAMN.

So, what 0% was it for?

[untold niche]

i think damage iirc

[primal plume]

Unironically dead

[severe folio]

wont stop captain shield or the twin from running, but ey

[fluid knot]

Nah wouldnt expect it to, but thats still pretty nutty

[severe folio]

it can stun anything except for monstrosity

[subtle swift]

ive been running all health curios but is it worth switching to toughness?

[ornate hamlet]

Yes

Instantly

[radiant sleet]

I have been running 2health 1stam, but also interested if toughness is worth it

Or moreso why it's worth it

[ornate hamlet]

Considering the same attack damage being taken, it means:

• You will have a higher percentage of toughness left after taking a hit
• The next hit will bleed less damage through to your health
• Since toughness regen talents are percentage-based, it means you regenerate more toughness the more toughness you have

I've done a match with idfk 170 toughness on my very proactice dueling sword psyker today, weaving heavies into gunner, crusher and mauler crowds

To my memory, everyone else on the team was above 1.5K damage taken and I was sitting at like 320

[radiant sleet]

Intriguing, I'll try to get some Milk gambas rolling

[lime geyser]

Does ability cdr or and seer's presence affect assail recharge rate or only quick shard affect it?

[long wharf]

The changes to fire damage changes the toughness vs health discussion

[lethal lagoon]

I've noticed I've been running into the same people more and more often in pubs, sadge.

[ornate hamlet]

Assail is considered a blitz, which has its own recharge rate that is only affected by the modifier node linked to assail. Abilities are the three orange-coloured ones further down the tree

[lime geyser]

Ok tanks

thanks*

do you have any knowledge about assail and disrupt destiny? i feel like warp siphon deals more damage but in number destiny way better

[radiant sleet]

13k on steamcharts ain't too bad considering probably lots on xbox/windows store

[strong gulch]

Just sitting in Brunt's shop.

[radiant sleet]

I know I'll be gone for the next while for new POE league tomorrow, I'll miss you siblings 💚

[lime geyser]

same

gotta check on my girl cassia

[ornate hamlet]

Assail mingles fairly well with disrupt destiny because it makes it "easier" to target the highlighted enemies in crowds

To my knowledge, it has no priority targeting for them, which would actually be cool to have

Disrupt destiny is a bit odd because it's not something with a constant upkeep and the highlighting can be really fucking idiotic sometimes

Picture the last event on the carnival map, at that big arena

And DD marking an enemy on the second floor while you defend the entrance from a massive crowd

Behind cover

Constantly

[lethal lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/vỗtay-raccoon-planning-scheming-gif-17259019

Hadron getting ready to brick yet another weapon.

[lethal lagoon]

tbf, you aren't supposed to camp the entrance haha

[lime geyser]

warp sihpon is 6x4 base damage 24%, empower psychonic is 50% and destiny is 30x 1% (not base) + 2 crit damage and 2.5 weakspot damage. So destiny seem way better but not sure new to assail

[lethal lagoon]

It just turned out to bork the A.I so everyone does it.

[lethal lagoon]

You will never reliably get 30 stacks though.

If at all.

you need the longer duration to maintain 15

[lime geyser]

ya 15 is more likely

[lethal lagoon]

That said, the bonus from actually getting a stack of DD is pretty solid.

And with a dagger that's the maximum zoomies in the game.

[lime geyser]

but 15% with de crit damage and weakspot stil beter then other 2 option and im running gaze also

[lethal lagoon]

You also have to consider the opportunity cost of having to chase DD targets instead of doing what's best for your DPS or for the team.

That's what makes DD completely pointless on Voidstrike for example.

[lime geyser]

True

So in yall opinion DD 15 stack very good 30 is min max damage per dagger and the difference between warp siphon and empower psy is what? all i see is spaming efficiency not sure

[lethal lagoon]

DD is fun for variety, but the other two keystones are probably better.

Whether you want warp siphon or empowered depends on how heavily you use your blitz.

And whether CDR matters to you

[lime geyser]

cdr good with shield and venting but in test dummy target area my scrier's gaze didnt got a reduced cdr by warp siphon charges maybe because it a buff?

and if assail not suposed to weak spot only i see some white numbers in the arena

[spice veldt]

whether assail hits a weakspot or not is probablistic

[lime geyser]

true

[misty cypress]

do i sacrifice the 65% damage staff to put warp nexus on the 75% damage one?

[fickle swallow]

Not sure if I made any mistakes on my testing, but Sustained Fire Bless seems to be acting weird on voidstrike staves. Instead of increasing damage of every third and fourth shot as it claims, it seems to increase damage of the first three shots when I repeat left clicks. Can anyone confirm this?

[fickle swallow]

Oh.

[strong gulch]

Yes.

[near wyvern]

That is from the Psyker Atheneum

Second pinned message here

[ornate hamlet]

Efficiency used to be pretty decent

I mean, still is, but just overshadowed a whole fucking lot by both blessings and talents alike

I remember getting an MG12 with it prior to p13 and it being actually quite nice to save ammo

Because deadly accurate was good, but headhunter kinda sucked

So you couldn't get deadly accurate very often and people preferred opening salvo

[subtle swift]

"Critical hits will give maximum Gibbing" Fatshark patch notes on the surge staff. What is gibbing?

[mighty cipher]

They fucking explode

[subtle swift]

dictionary says fasten (parts) together with a gib. doesnt help much lol

[fickle swallow]

Wait which post is this? Link?

[near wyvern]

#psyker-class message

You can also find it by just googling psyker atheneum

[fickle swallow]

Thanks a lot. That looks extremely helpful

[near wyvern]

Yeah you might want to double check your talents to make sure they actually do what you think they do 😅

[tame venture]

How does the new revolver fare on psyker?

[near wyvern]

Not good

The new knife and new laspistol are solid

Haven't tried the new chainsword yet

[tame venture]

New laspistol i assume is better bc less clicking, but how does new knife compare to old knife? Old knife's heavies give a bit of movement

Also I forgot that there's a new chainsword for psyker lol

I thought those were zealot only

[glossy ember]

yes then reroll damage to groaners to flak

[bronze hound]

That's the eviscerator. Rest have the chainswords.

Not you, ogryn

[glossy ember]

unless you want the flexibility from switching perks

[tame venture]

Oh yeah, how is the surge now? It got nerfed then buffed then fixed it gen bugged

[ornate hamlet]

They're pretty much the same mobility, as far as I can tell

The difference is in the attacks

The new knife has the same damage on all lights, while the old one had a different third light

[glossy ember]

is good

[ornate hamlet]

And it also has two sweeps and the usual overhead on heavies

[tame venture]

I think I prefer old knife then

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046914150363844779/1179946598403424376/image.png?ex=6584dc67&is=65726767&hm=4c45a47941e8d871932f7ac6b2ae7e11edd6e6b5a3c882f7d269281b8546b74c&

I think I lucked out and got a good roll pretty early on, like within the 5th that I bought

[bronze hound]

Penetration is a bit low

[tame venture]

Not low enough to dump more money into getting a better roll imo

[glossy ember]

new knife good too

[tame venture]

It's a fun mobility tool, but I think grinding out a perfect one is more important for say, a dueling mk4

Or force swords

[bronze hound]

Yeah, I agree with that

[untold niche]

for scoreboard mod how to get the weapons used by teammate

[tame venture]

This being so cheap to have built is why I love it ngl

Literally had no other blessings but the best ones

[near wyvern]

The new knife is just a direct upgrade in all other ways than triggering empathic evasion with lights

You have better cleave on lights and heavies and the push attack stabs make it a lot easier to hit weakspots consistently, even from the back of a crusher or a mutant. Since Psykers have Kinetic Deflection, you can spam those push attacks to your heart's content.

In case you didn't know, the push attack on the knife is a heavy, so deals the same damage as heavies but with twice as fast and staggering enemies in front of you as well

https://streamable.com/xjyp8a

https://streamable.com/lg7dm5

And you can mix in some specials to stagger even ragers mid strings and maulers

Works with both knifes but the new one seems to have a bit faster push attack

[oblique atlas]

I BUSTED

[severe folio]

gues i know what im getting after the chainsword

[solar ocean]

Does Warp Nexus or crit in general affect flame staves?

[mighty cipher]

Purgatus staff inflicts two stacks of Soulblaze on crit

[solar ocean]

Oooooh... TIL, thank you

Wasn't sure cus flamethrower

[glossy ember]

did u see my new knife @near wyvern https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/908394210409988129/1182447783966416946/image.png?ex=6584bb50&is=65724650&hm=945c71b838016a49187f1ce5d7f2e61336e83afc3100c86ac4a2487f6a9925cb&

[tame venture]

How does new knife stack up as a pure movement tool? iirc spamming heavies while sprinting on old knife speeds you up a little

[glossy ember]

same shit

[ornate hamlet]

I do wish the right to left sweep was a teensy bit better to aim on ogryns

It's easier when the enemy doesn't have half of its body in the way

[strong gulch]

Push attack

[misty cypress]

So 10 more damage on stat with 4 crit and flak, is better than 10 less with flak and mutant? (If I made those changes)

[glossy ember]

you also get higher charge rate

but you do lose 1% or so crit from lower crit stat

the only reason you want flexible perks is if they bork/change the weapon

or you wanna do scab melee only maelstrom with 100000 crushers so you want carapace

OR

[ornate hamlet]

or

[glossy ember]

keep both until u get a godroll

or wait for another staff with IV nexus to drop