I'm running sub 100 toughness and stam, that's not a low skill build
#psyker-class
echo turtle
potent echo
Depends on what game you think you are playing
proven stirrup
The same one as you
cloud heron
I actually just loaded up the psykhanium because someone brought it up and it doesn't seem to affect melee block efficiency. A mauler's horizontal swing was 29% on both no deflector and deflector 4
potent echo
If you think of darktide as a DPS puzzle, you would have to evaluate how bubble contributes to that
proven stirrup
No one here is more valid than anyone else, despite what you act like.
echo turtle
I actually just loaded up the psykhanium because someone brought it up and it do...
Are you using kinetic deflection?
There's a weird interaction there
bleak tulip
its less "preventing" and more allowing you to not be forced to learn the fundamentals, which honestly just harms you in the long run imo
proven stirrup
That's only true of the blessing is just suddenly gone one day
echo turtle
Kinetic deflection reduces peril based on total stam, block efficiency only reduces the stamina loss it doesn't change the peril
bleak tulip
avoiding ranged damage by dodge sliding and getting better positioning helps you on al lthe clases that dont have deflector too#
cloud heron
Are you using kinetic deflection?
yes
potent echo
EP surge 
proven stirrup
Or that the individual is just incapable of improving later on lol
echo turtle
Yeah, block efficiency does nothing for peril blocking, total stam augments that
potent echo
I wouldn't say incapable, but by using crutches they will be unwilling to move away from it
bleak tulip
That's only true of the blessing is just suddenly gone one day
there is three classes that dont have deflector, you'd learn it for them
proven stirrup
But that's no one else's problem
echo turtle
Or that the individual is just incapable of improving later on lol
I play all the classes myself, I see the value of blocking ranged attacks on this character and it isn't making me bad at melee
proven stirrup
It's legit no one's business but the player
onyx sentinel
Maybe the argument going on here is more about Illisi idk, I never felt like I'm missing headshot breakpoints on the deimos that I otherwise wouldn't if I brought something in place of Deflector.
I rarely take out my deimos more than ~3 seconds at a time unless I'm trying to get out of a horde, and I don't know how much that 20% from Unstable Power is realistically impactful in a real game. That being said I didn't have any memorable moments where Deflector could save me that dodge slide spamming wouldn't.
bleak tulip
who said it does?
potent echo
Deflector has its merits for sure
I wouldn't say deflector is a crutch either, it doesn't save you from gunner patrols
echo turtle
Maybe the argument going on here is more about Illisi idk, I never felt like I'm...
I think most people would grab slaughterer first, then as a second the argument is for uncanny
Which is fine when it is ramped up into flak and carapace, but how often are you using that weapon into those armor types?
Vs, how much use can you make from blocking range and getting 30% block efficiency
potent echo
Always...?
echo turtle
Ye
echo turtle
Carapace is the biggest reason to have uncanny
brave fiber
Slaughterer + Shred Illisi is super sick, my go-to melee horde clear option
potent echo
You wouldn't catch me using an illisi
proven stirrup
Yeah I still don't have shred on my ilisi I don't think
But it's lit all the same
echo turtle
Slaughterer + Shred Illisi is super sick, my go-to melee horde clear option
It's super quick with or without shred
proven stirrup
Oh no I'm wrong. I do
brave fiber
It's super quick with or without shred
yeah but the added crit helps with mixed hordes a lot
proven stirrup
The other perk is exorcist
onyx sentinel
Vs, how much use can you make from blocking range and getting 30% block efficien...
I haven't found the block efficiency to be much useful, I run a stam curio and I could already kite demonhosts and melee elites with it and kinetic deflection. If Deflector had something else than the block eff then people would probably consider it more than just slapping on more damage blessings
frank seal
has anyone actually done the 'power up' penance
echo turtle
I haven't found the block efficiency to be much useful, I run a stam curio and I...
I dumped KD to grab more damage talents
And run stam instead
brave fiber
has anyone actually done the 'power up' penance
i did most psyker penances on accident tbh
cloud heron
has anyone actually done the 'power up' penance
which one is this? I have all of the psyker penances
frank seal
which one is this? I have all of the psyker penances
kill 100 specialist/elite enemies while at max warp stacks with brain burst
brave fiber
kill 100 specialist/elite enemies while at max warp stacks with brain burst
(on malice or higher)
frank seal
I can't imagine doing it on malice or lower
cloud heron
kill 100 specialist/elite enemies while at max warp stacks with brain burst
Brain burst is a good blitz and I will fight anyone that says otherwise
frank seal
it doesn't even spawn any specialists there
brave fiber
Brain burst is a good blitz and I will fight anyone that says otherwise
saving this comment next time someone says nobody uses bb
onyx sentinel
I dumped KD to grab more damage talents
Most builds already path towards KD to get the +5% crit, idk how much more damage you could get from the tree over a single point, seems like a missed opportunity at that point
brave fiber
i fight with you
cloud heron
so yeah, I kill plenty of elites and specialists with brain burst at max stacks even after having done the penance
echo turtle
Most builds already path towards KD to get the +5% crit, idk how much more damag...
It's two points
echo turtle
Most builds already path towards KD to get the +5% crit, idk how much more damag...
I freed points to grab Regen on crit and 3% damage stacking 5 times
brave fiber
I can already see all my kills getting stolen
its really not that hard, kill things before your team even encounters them/are preoccupied with hordes
potent echo
BR is good
onyx sentinel
It's two points
how is it two? so you don't grab the crit node in your build? what are you running?
brave fiber
on higher threats theres more than enough elites to kill
potent echo
Two shots bulwarks for far
frank seal
oh wait it counts shotgunners
okay this is gonna be easy
the game throws about 200 shotgunners directly at me every match
echo turtle
how is it two? so you don't grab the crit node in your build? what are you runni...
I don't grab the crit node, 5% crit chance is whatever imo.
If crit 2x your damage, 5% crit is = to 2.5% damage on average, not amazing
brave fiber
okay this is gonna be easy
take emp with bb to make it even easier
potent echo
the game throws about 200 shotgunners directly at me every match
I feel like every game picks 3 flavours of elites and throw those at you
echo turtle
how is it two? so you don't grab the crit node in your build? what are you runni...
Do you want me to PM you my build?
potent echo
Sometimes its rager bulwark
frank seal
I feel like every game picks 3 flavours of elites and throw those at you
Maybe it's based on your team comp
cloud heron
i fight with you
brain burst does just fine when you need to pick off key elites that no one else is or when you're anticipating threats during safe moments. It also has just a bit more flexibility than assail when dealing with armored units or guaranteeing kills against enemies behind cover or that are retreating/otherwise obstructing LoS
viscid matrix
I don't grab the crit node, 5% crit chance is whatever imo.
If crit 2x your dam...
The node under it for peril blocking plus 5 weakspot for guarenteed crit make up for it
cloud heron
brain burst does just fine when you need to pick off key elites that no one else...
I feel like psykers just want to use their blitz as their primary weapon and that's just not what brain burst is for
echo turtle
The node under it for peril blocking plus 5 weakspot for guarenteed crit make up...
Depending on your weapon
viscid matrix
Depending on your weapon
Blitz and melee can stack it, so free crit on any staff or gun
Always worth
brave fiber
brain burst does just fine when you need to pick off key elites that no one else...
Brain burst's biggest strengths are being the only blitz that can kill carapace enemies well and being able to kill snipers and gunners while in cover, its lovely
echo turtle
Blitz and melee can stack it, so free crit on any staff or gun
Not always
Not with surge specifically
onyx sentinel
I don't grab the crit node, 5% crit chance is whatever imo.
If crit 2x your dam...
That's 5% more chance to proc your other nodes that depends on crit, and 5% more chance to proc blessings like blazing spirit, so not just damage. Based off what you said, you should be already running Mettle and Perfect Timing in a crit build, not dump the only crit node in Psyker's skill tree for it imo lol
viscid matrix
Surge needs crits, and it can hit weakspots now, and it has a crit damage modifier
onyx sentinel
Not counting the aura i guess
echo turtle
Surge needs crits, and it can hit weakspots now, and it has a crit damage modifi...
Do the math though, it doesn't always hit weakspots for one, and surge staves with Nexus have between 30-40% already
cloud heron
Brain burst's biggest strengths are being the only blitz that can kill carapace ...
alright, I read what you said as "I'll fight with you" as in you meant you were taking me up on my offer to fight about it
echo turtle
Which means there's a 30-40% chance it would have been a crit anyways
brave fiber
alright, I read what you said as "I'll fight with you" as in you meant you were ...
lmao
strong gulch
Nice
brave fiber
nah i been using bb since the dawn of time
frank seal
I thought this challenge would be hard but it's actually pretty easy
brave fiber
my fav build rn is purgatus with emp bb
viscid matrix
Which means there's a 30-40% chance it would have been a crit anyways
I run DD on surge anyway, so I’m already getting it
DD is really good
echo turtle
If you do the math on what your total average damage is, those 4 points are better spent elsewhere
echo turtle
I run DD on surge anyway, so I’m already getting it
DD is really good
Warp siphon surge with creeping flames is where it's at imo
Biggest cool down, biggest passive damage boost, huge peril reduction for efficiency, faster quell
viscid matrix
Warp siphon surge with creeping flames is where it's at imo
As I was stuck with warp charges, brain burst and shriek for a year, I’d rather not use warp charges
echo turtle
They are pretty great now
viscid matrix
Meh they are the same
cloud heron
BB/Vent/Warp Siphon? Sign me up for some of that
echo turtle
But, like I said, do the math on true aim on a surge staff
It's not a big boost in total crits
viscid matrix
As Surge is the worst staff right now, it’s probably not worth using
echo turtle
BB/Vent/Warp Siphon? Sign me up for some of that
BB or smite, smite is good for a quick fuck off to make space or push a burster and not accidently crit and kill it before shoving back
Warp siphon gives a huge damage boost as well as cool down reduction, in addition to massive peril generation reduction, so you have the best possible staff uptime and fastest quelling
Vent, spam staff, and boom. Charges can be right back to 6. That and the perfect timing ability with the 5% vs elites gets the surge up to a total of +44% into everything right there, then there's the warp rider on top of that
Tap quell at 100% and you can be cycling surge without losing warp flurry procs from around 20+30% peril
Warp siphon and the skills on the way cut quell time in half, which is more DPS, in addition to getting up to 45% cool down reduction, which means more venting, which means more damage and more free peril quell
It just works
viscid matrix
Tap quell at 100% and you can be cycling surge without losing warp flurry procs ...
Do that on all staves
Also Surge is worst staff, you could use a voidstrike the same way and kill everything faster
viscid matrix
Imagine thinking surge is bad
No it’s not bad, everything else is better
echo turtle
Surge bad, deflector bad.
This channel is incredible
brave fiber
worse =/= bad
viscid matrix
It’s the worst staff, I never said it’s bad
Deflector is amazing
echo turtle
The surge creeping flames warp siphon build is wildly powerful
cloud heron
What's even going on with surge right now? Is it still bugged in one way or another?
viscid matrix
Void, trauma or Purga do it better
viscid matrix
Void 2taps crushers and cleaves 8 enemies
echo turtle
Sure, it can do that
Surge can blah blah whatever too
brave fiber
Id say if Voidstrike and Trauma are S tier, Purgatus and Surge sit in a weird spot in between A and B tier, with people arguing which is better
cloud heron
I feel like you need to be really proactive with void. Surge can be really responsive because of the flexible aiming and stun
echo turtle
Void doesn't lend itself as well to the vent build, which is in itself incredibly good
cloud heron
I feel like you need to be really proactive with void. Surge can be really respo...
Like the straight line of damage really limits the ways void can deal damage
brave fiber
Like the straight line of damage really limits the ways void can deal damage
tbf you need line of sight to do the most dmg with surge
echo turtle
Void can drop crushers fast, but surge is really good at deleting specialists like trappers, flamers etc, it's really nice in that regard.
echo turtle
tbf you need line of sight to do the most dmg with surge
It has a habit of wrapping around edges and cover
Or do you mean, with surge blessing on the void?
brave fiber
It has a habit of wrapping around edges and cover
yeah but the chains (unfortunately) dont do meaningful enough dmg methinks
cloud heron
tbf you need line of sight to do the most dmg with surge
Yeah but line of sight is a lot more flexible than multiple enemies being in a perfect line
echo turtle
yeah but the chains (unfortunately) dont do meaningful enough dmg methinks
The main surge attack when ramped up is pretty gnarly. The secondary is whatever. Free damage and cc
viscid matrix
yeah but the chains (unfortunately) dont do meaningful enough dmg methinks
It does like minimal damage, pretty sure it was 25% of main damage
brave fiber
I do think surge is a bit outclassed by voidstrike role-wise, the only thing realistically surge has over void is cc
echo turtle
I'll take my surge into he grinder real quick and get charge and crit procs one sec
viscid matrix
It’s like 1k damage at most
It’s 3 or 4 shot on a crusher
echo turtle
It’s like 1k damage at most
It’s 3 or 4 shot on a crusher
Void is better at crushers
cloud heron
It’s like 1k damage at most
It’s 3 or 4 shot on a crusher
They're guaranteed stunned after the first hit though, and you can get it off fast. That reliability is important, imo
echo turtle
My surge crits up to 1600 on a flak rager
brave fiber
They're guaranteed stunned after the first hit though, and you can get it off fa...
thats another big thing surge has over void, much much faster
echo turtle
1300 on a crusher
I can one shot all the specialists barring the mutant
Without stacking the buffs or a crit, it's a two tap for specialists
viscid matrix
Without stacking the buffs or a crit, it's a two tap for specialists
That part right there is a bad thing, 1 tapping most specialists is the most important part for ranged weapons
echo turtle
Yeah, but I can one tap them extremely fast, and it stuns them if I dont
cloud heron
That part right there is a bad thing, 1 tapping most specialists is the most imp...
The first hit stuns though, so I'm not sure that applies
echo turtle
Unless your void has perfect accuracy, it's hard to say void is going to deal with specialists better
viscid matrix
The first hit stuns though, so I'm not sure that applies
And if they are stun immune? If they are stunned by somthing else just before you hit them, then they don’t get stunned by you
echo turtle
With surge, it's so easy to get a dog mid air, or an unseen trapper
lyric burrow
do dogs not get knocked off by flames anymore? i swear a dog will pounce me and be getting hit by soulblaze for 10 minutes and he doesnt get off
echo turtle
There's some benefits to the weapon that aren't strictly DPS, but the DPS is great if you stack the buffs
viscid matrix
do dogs not get knocked off by flames anymore? i swear a dog will pounce me and ...
Only hits
cloud heron
And if they are stun immune? If they are stunned by somthing else just before yo...
if the bomber is stunned before you hit them, you're going to be able to kill it before it throws a grenade
cloud heron
What do you mean by stun immune, exactly? Like a plague ogryn? Or how enemies resist stuns if they're still recovering from one
echo turtle
To pump the damage I grab "perfect timing", 6 warp charges, the damage and peril reduction, "kinetic presence" and warp rider. As well +25% flaniac
It ends up being surprisingly good into just about everything
Crushers take longer, crushers are a small portion of the enemies you see in a mission
severe folio
three 3 stamina curios
viscid matrix
What do you mean by stun immune, exactly? Like a plague ogryn? Or how enemies re...
If things get stunned, they get temp immunity to other stuns for a second or 2, it’s how poxbursters ignore knock backs
cloud heron
If things get stunned, they get temp immunity to other stuns for a second or 2, ...
Yeah, so that's not going to last long enough to stop you from either re-stunning them or just killing them before they do anything dangerous anyway
severe folio
i still find the craziest interaction being kinetic deflector let you parry with peril
echo turtle
It seems like a short amount of time, I feel like stuff gets chain stunned a lot
Yeah, charge on the surge is super snappy, especially with flurry procced, which is just about always maxed
brave fiber
does surge still benefit from smite talents?
viscid matrix
i still find the craziest interaction being kinetic deflector let you parry with...
It’s amazing, especially if you run a defensive Illisi with Deflector and Block efficiency, can block bullets and tank a Crusher slam
echo turtle
You can ramp up, quell and keep going with surge and not drop the flurry procs
viscid matrix
does surge still benefit from smite talents?
No
severe folio
It’s amazing, especially if you run a defensive Illisi with Deflector and Block ...
how do you parry with illisi
echo turtle
It’s amazing, especially if you run a defensive Illisi with Deflector and Block ...
I believe crusher overhead is unlockable even with deflector
lethal lagoon
As Surge is the worst staff right now, it’s probably not worth using
Actual heresy
echo turtle
I think only the Dclaw can actually block that, and that is with parry
I'll test it rn
viscid matrix
I’ve lived with a sliver of life from a crusher slam that i blocked
brave fiber
on a different note im glad people argue about what staffs are better than others this much because in reality theyre all really good
echo turtle
Yeah you cannot block the crusher overhead with deflector
lethal lagoon
on a different note im glad people argue about what staffs are better than other...
👍
I've always liked that about psyker
echo turtle
Well, With 8 stam and KD and 60% block efficiency it goes through
With 200 health you still get downed, so I dunno how you survived but uh, I wouldn't rely on that in game
fresh reef
Is it just me or is nobody running Voidstrike lately?
Haven't seen one in pubs in a while
lethal lagoon
Voidstrike low-key ass without surge.
lethal lagoon
And even with 100k plasteel and max gold there's no guarentee you'll get surge blessing.
echo turtle
It doesn't require aim and deals damage so
lethal lagoon
Surge is fast, fun, kills shooter mobs really easily(which are always a pain) and doesn't require aim.
urban sandal
trauma my beloved
cosmic sigil
surge must be easy to play on a controller
brave fiber
Voidstrike low-key ass without surge.
then becomes god tier with it
echo turtle
I see about as many people use smite as a primary weapon as I see people run surge
cosmic sigil
like assail and plasma
brave fiber
kinda wish it was better without
cosmic sigil
lethal lagoon
I see about as many people use smite as a primary weapon as I see people run sur...
My estimate is that they wouldn't be helping the team much anyways, so might as well stun shit
echo turtle
I mean they could just run surgez, do exactly the same thing but also some damage
echo turtle
800k damage and 25k melee
Uncanny strike could have gotten you an extra 3,k damage tho
If only you had that!!!!
lethal lagoon
Surge also pairs perfectly with flaming smite.
wheat quartz
I did on my dueling sword, I just didn't pull it out enough :(
echo turtle
Yeah, it's peanut butter and jelly
echo turtle
I did on my dueling sword, I just didn't pull it out enough :(
Which is why I have a sword that runs stam and block efficiency
There's like, no need to kit for elites if you have a tool that kills them better than the sword
lethal lagoon
Illy is probably better for surge than dueling sword.
echo turtle
They're all good, I put my deimos down and tried illisi and it was nice for hordes when they get on you
lethal lagoon
And if you pop 5% crit and manaic on Illy, it shreds mutants easy enough.
echo turtle
Quick charged lights or a H1L1 sweep was really solid
wheat quartz
I like Illisi
lethal lagoon
Illy should have been 2 handed with a bigger cleave
wheat quartz
The dueling sword was mostly there for monstrosity duty
Except the hammerbro killed the only monstrosity so it didn't get much use
echo turtle
I do enjoy the deimos tho, good dodges, really good uncharged attacks chains. Shreds chaff with light spam and slaughterer no problem
lethal lagoon
I wish every single deimos attack was a stab
it's pattern annoys me so I never use it.
echo turtle
Surge does OK into monstrosities, tho really you should be clearing the wave around the boss
Every attack can be
Just block cancel
half iron
waves? what are those?
brave fiber
I wish every single deimos attack was a stab
what youre describing is dueling 4 heavies
echo turtle
waves? what are those?
Waves of enemies
lethal lagoon
Yes, which is why I like it lmao
half iron
Waves of enemies
nuh uh. myth.
echo turtle
If you have a boss fight there is always hordes and specialists
You are great at removing those threats, enabling the team to drop the boss safely
lethal lagoon
Surge is kind great at dealing with the slug though, cause where you hit doesn't matter.
echo turtle
Surge itself does some decent damage too, and from a safe distance. I solo'd a beast of nurgle with it today
lethal lagoon
I've found myself 1 or 2 on boss damage recently.
Surge has no ammo, and is easy to spam and aim, it's not just about pure DPS on bosses.
echo turtle
Yeah, I end up middling on boss damage just laying on surge spam while looking around for specialists running in
lethal lagoon
I wish the surge weakspot thingy could hit the slug weakspot though.
echo turtle
Unless there's someone kitted specifically for bosses, I get just as much as everyone else focusing the boss, and while I clean up the agro from spawns
lethal lagoon
I wonder how the slug is coded cause that weakspot is definitely different from every other enemy in the game.
wheat quartz
You get surprisingly nice empathic evasion uptime spamming the surge staff with minimum charge too, which isn't really minimum with warp flurry
It's not Purgatus "I am immune to arbitrary gunfire" but it's neat
echo turtle
It's ok, seems to be up around a third of the time
I was considering grabbing it, but the opportunity cost is real
Just playing around with this block efficiency deimos in the grinder, it makes dealing with ragers packs a dream
Just push them around, H2 stab
Block push into h2 is so damn good
potent echo
Block push is so good, even better since they buffed the range
echo turtle
I didn't even know it got buff so far
I was just practicing with a block efficiency stam deimos
echo turtle
The range is like 8 meters it feels like on the force sword
echo turtle
Deimos goes into the H2, which is like the best single target attack next to the duely
You can push back and knock down ragers from well of of their range
wheat quartz
I might give Deimos another try, I usually bring DS4 or Illisi
echo turtle
So spawn in 6 rangers and dodge back and start knocking them down
I'm practicing against packs of 6 rn
Without kinetic deflection
wheat quartz
constant kd like you had a trauma?
echo turtle
constant kd like you had a trauma?
Constant KD?
wheat quartz
Do you spam the force push to mostly have them in a constant knocked down state?
echo turtle
Just practicing with the sword, I am running stam and block efficiency to free up points for damage instead of taking Kinetic deflectoon
echo turtle
Do you spam the force push to mostly have them in a constant knocked down state?
Force push them down, once you can get a strike safely get the H2, it knocks them down
Then you can line up more h2s or block push into an H2 again
severe folio
best I rolled so far
not elite, maniac
potent echo
Yes you can weave in pushes with H2 and maybe some specials if you are feeling funky
hearty oak
@severe folio Ive come to the conclusion that... ||I can not tell a difference with everything dying so quickly with or without fire. It looks good with the cotton candy flame on them||
echo turtle
Yes you can weave in pushes with H2 and maybe some specials if you are feeling f...
Block push goes directly into H2
potent echo
Yea
echo turtle
It's pretty slick, I was just playing around against crusher packs, absolutely man handled them
potent echo
Weapons with combos are always fun
half iron
flipped a whole brick into an empire
echo turtle
After seeing how the deimos handles elites, I'm gonna stick with this, it's wild
misty cypress
the pinned guide for surge staff says to ignore crit bonus as a stat, but everywhere else im seeing that crit is essential for it, help me understand
echo turtle
Ignore crit bonus as a perk is correct
As a stat, crit bonus is very good
It gets crit chance to 20%, combined with Nexus you can get a 40% critrate
Surge with flak and maniac, flurry and Nexus with high
Damage,crit,quell,resist is ideal
misty cypress
cool thanks
vapid lichen
the guide says that because crit damage only applies to the the amount of damage by which the crit increased the initial hit's damage by
and not the entire critical hit
misty cypress
do i ignore crit damage, or crit chance as a perk
vapid lichen
so crit damage is fairly weak as a stat itself, but crit chance is really good
echo turtle
The stat "crit bonus" increase crit chance and the bonus damage
It is a very important stat
5% crit chance is a wasted perk though. You want flak and maniac
misty cypress
is that too low of damage to keep?
echo turtle
You are 5% total damage short of a literal god roll
No
You want to kill specialists, hence the need for maniac
cold geode
extended weapon custization plugin is something else
misty cypress
praise the omnisiah I got warp flurry t4 on first blessing
echo turtle
Amazing
half iron
extended weapon custization plugin is something else
that must have a godroll
echo turtle
You just need Nexus 4 and it's perfect
And flack/maniac for perks
Unarmored is OK if you get stuck with it, as a lot of enemies have unarmored heads
And a lot of chaff that you will fire it at is unarmored, but personally I value maniac for dropping specialists
The perk damage modifier will also augment the soul fire damage, which is helpful for specialists on fire and ragers
potent echo
65% might not be enough to kill shotgunners
Not like you can kill shotgunners anyway without flak/unarmored
I think if a high enough roll and maniac 25 you might be able to oneshot flamers without crit
With perfect timing and warpcharges
onyx sentinel
extended weapon custization plugin is something else
what legs are those btw?
severe folio
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i have a clip
severe folio
<@220014557903454210> Ive come to the conclusion that... ||I can not tell a diff...
hold on, what exactly do you mean ?
cold geode
what legs are those btw?
not my character, but its a premium
hearty oak
hold on, what exactly do you mean ?
I mean that things die so quickly that the only things that die from fire are the one or two elites that it didnt really matter
Never really had a huge impact on whether we made it through a mission or not
its just there. Letting me know they burned alive
potent echo
That just means you are playing too close to your team
echo turtle
I get a lot of kills and spelites damage with soulblaze
potent echo
Or your team is too good
echo turtle
Like a lot
potent echo
Purg doesn't do super well if your team is actually competent
But team usually isn't competent
hearty oak
Purg doesn't do super well if your team is actually competent
voidstrike*
potent echo
Voidstrike has travel time and charge time too yea
You charge and the revolver/plasma has already deleted the entire patrol
echo turtle
Void doesn't take that long
potent echo
You can maybe get 1 or 2 balls in to get a certificate of participation
echo turtle
There's always lots to kill on aurics
hearty oak
Yeah it doesnt. And if the plasma or revolver didnt delete the specials then it has good horde clearing so
its whatever
potent echo
That's why when you play purg you gotta dive solo
Go alt paths to get plasteel
Dive gunner patrols
potent echo
Be a madman, because purg gives you so much survivability
terse saffron
echo turtle
Purge you can be aggressive with as you can just primary fire and stagger stuff
I always played that staff pretty agro
potent echo
You can fight 10 maulers and be perfectly fine
hearty oak
I like splosions
echo turtle
Surge is sweaty
potent echo
Trauma lmao, lol even
vapid lichen
trauma is called trauma because it gives the heretics ptsd
echo turtle
I don't know why you are having no kills with purge tho
vapid lichen
an endless hel of getting knocked over
hearty oak
I want a trauma staff. But if it needs a specific setup to be good, then im not interested
echo turtle
Like, I'm not going to steel man it as I don't like it a ton. But I found it killed the hell out of everything sans crushers
vapid lichen
it does need a specific setup if you want the better version (fire trauma) but it's SO good
echo turtle
You need perilous and wildfire to really get it going and warp charge + mettle to get the damage up
late geyser
just had the worst psyker i've ever seen on auric diff
vapid lichen
did they have five wounds
late geyser
they were a 30 +14, and they popped over 6 times
echo turtle
Maybe not wildfire with the purge staff, I dunno if that's necessary but for sure perolous
Did they just use smite as a primary weapon the whole time?
late geyser
no they had assail and surge staff
they were probably just copying a youtuber's meta
echo turtle
There are far worse psykers out there then
half iron
trauma is epic (like the games launcher) because it knocks heretics off their feet
echo turtle
That's not even a good build tho
vapid lichen
i had a roughly 90 toughness/150 hp psyker with 5 wounds in auric once
echo turtle
Assail is ass with surge
vapid lichen
worst psyker ive ever seen
late geyser
they were using assail as a primary basically
vapid lichen
not five wounds
half iron
wounds more like not epic
vapid lichen
3 wounds sure
not 5
late geyser
it was to a point where we were in the final boss (assasination mission), and they were just shooting assail while both of the other team members were down (they were good)
echo turtle
If you can't hold your own, you're gonna drop in melee anyways
late geyser
i was using smite to create breathing room
half iron
3 wounds sure
not 5
must activate perils raaaagh!
bold maple
does uncanny strike iv and iii make all that difference
late geyser
and they just spammed assail
vapid lichen
assail spammers when the game needs them to clutch
ornate hamlet
does uncanny strike iv and iii make all that difference
killing crushers in two hits is funny
late geyser
i hate assail users for the life of me
ornate hamlet
but between 3 and 4 there is barely any difference
echo turtle
They are fine when hey swap between staff and assail
late geyser
They are fine when hey swap between staff and assail
that's fine, but for every decent assail user, you have 100+ who don't know assail was nerfed
half iron
assail more like ass fail aye yo gottem
echo turtle
Just using assail as it regen is bot worthy
potent echo
______ users but in reality it's the users thats the problem
half iron
the problem is that assail is being used
echo turtle
I don't like assail myself but I have seen people do well with it
Before the nerf mainly
late geyser
and i can just smite a horde and rush forwards with my sword to cleave through the staggered horde
potent echo
Assail still does stupid amounts of damage
echo turtle
I don't think it's good on a surge buuld
vapid lichen
it's great at refilling toughness
echo turtle
You lock yourself out of shriek, which is what makes surge builds do so well
potent echo
But you need true aim
potent echo
You lock yourself out of shriek, which is what makes surge builds do so well
You don't though?
late geyser
You lock yourself out of shriek, which is what makes surge builds do so well
true, but i love me crits
potent echo
Or you mean the crit aura
echo turtle
Or is it wildfire you are locked out of
half iron
my current surge build uses ass fail and shriek hehe
vapid lichen
it's wildfire
ornate hamlet
wildfire it is
echo turtle
You can still path to shriek
half iron
but yeah wildfire
echo turtle
Wildfire with shriek and perolous is really good
You don't need CDR with warp charges
But assail is kind of weak without true aim and empowered psionics
Which don't benefit surge nearly as much as paying left
potent echo
I just take DD surge/assail
vapid lichen
disrupt destiny 
echo turtle
I mean, there's a lot of reasons why not
potent echo
Like?
echo turtle
Vent and charges make you deal way more damage
potent echo
Not having warpsiphon? Yea I guess but you don't have so many talent points
echo turtle
And kill everything assail would kill, but instead of costing peril, it reduces peril
I take full siphon, mettle, wild fire, shriek
potent echo
But that means you don't have assail
echo turtle
And the 5% elite damage arua
potent echo
That's the opportunity cost
sudden trellis
BB NAMBA WAN
echo turtle
There is nothing assail is good at killing that venting and surging doesn't already slaughter
half iron
hehe vent
vapid lichen
sus amogus sus!!!! 
potent echo
True but you can have venting and assail too
half iron
omg so true!
echo turtle
Assail is great with like, a void strike that has problems dealing with a horde right in top of you
paper loom
which is the better revolver?
echo turtle
Or when running a gun
spice veldt
having to path through mind in motion 🥲
severe folio
ayyyy lmao
lol
echo turtle
Right
distant roost
which is the better revolver?
Left by a mile
potent echo
having to path through mind in motion 🥲
The real loss
distant roost
But tbh both are good
echo turtle
Assail costs peril to kill stuff you could already kill
vapid lichen
left has hand cannon 4 and a higher pen stat but right has decent perks
echo turtle
It doesn't synergize with surge. Void strike or a gun, yeah sure
ornate hamlet
Infested damage is kinda useless on revolver tho
paper loom
i have both haha
severe folio
I mean that things die so quickly that the only things that die from fire are th...
yeah, the purgatus's own flame is very fast and it crit a lot, the flame tick sole damagebecome more prevalent on bigger units like monstrosity, or when you are burning them down, because even when you are burning them down their health goes down faster the more stack of flame you have on them
distant roost
I’d take both and strip the blessing off the left
vapid lichen
you could probably scoop the hand cannon4 off of left and put it and surgical on the right one
paper loom
so reroll both perks?
distant roost
so reroll both perks?
Uh no
paper loom
ah ok
paper loom
ah ok so replace both blessings
distant roost
Yes
vapid lichen
yea
eat left for HC4
put surgical 4 and HC4 on right
distant roost
Flakiac is traditional revolver perks
potent echo
Uncanny + soulblaze vs bosses is so stupid strong
paper loom
ty
potent echo
I always get 1st or 2nd boss dps
vapid lichen
better than all 3 of my revolvers smadge
my friend has a godlike 550 revolver and it pisses me off
paper loom
might replace fast reload then for now with hand cannon
half iron
my zealot keeps getting cute stuff. one day i’ll get a cuter revolver for my cute little wizard
slow raven
speedload is so bad now that it doesnt work on your melee kills
paper loom
revolver most fun gun imo
vapid lichen
cute
slow raven
the old version was actually usable
ornate hamlet
Crushers
vapid lichen
huge damage boost against armor
with enough bonuses and revolver you can 2-shot critheadshot a crusher
spice veldt
and for damage falloff
vapid lichen
crit and headshot basically guaranteed if you have time to line up a surgical shot
spice veldt
because damage falloff with range uses armour damage modifiers for some reason
vapid lichen
lmao
viscid matrix
is brain burst still ass
yes
ornate hamlet
Empowered psyonics make it usable
viscid matrix
its the same as it always was, with a little extra damage
viscid matrix
Empowered psyonics make it usable
its still far to slow
half iron
vets don’t have brain power or melee weapons.
left basin
fuck faster, i want big bazinga charge that i kamehameha for 10 seconds to one-shot a daemonhost
ornate hamlet
vets don’t have brain power or melee weapons.
sibling, half of psyker player base is stuck with assail and lacks melee as well
half iron
sibling, half of psyker player base is stuck with assail and lacks melee as well
not this hoolipsyker. this hoolipsyker got the stub as his staff and the melee as his melee
always out here ready to go for some trust 30 gyatts
bitter escarp
finally rolled a gd blaze trauma staff
not the best, level 3 warp nexus but it'll do
ornate hamlet
actually, I don't think they changed it a lot
They fucked up with Surge and that's mostly it
bitter escarp
it's still the hipster choice, haven't even had the chance to try it out because crafting system
ornate hamlet
My body is a machine built to knock crushers on their feet
Trauma is like the best anti-melee elite solution rn
Especially given that game started to spawn hordes of ragers with last patch
hidden crystal
its the same as it always was, with a little extra damage
The damage buff is significant though, as it moves several special classes into being killed with one BB charge.
ornate hamlet
Isn't it every special minus mutant?
viscid matrix
it already 1 taps the important specials, except mutie
hidden crystal
I recall that it used to need two for flamers and hounds.
hearty oak
yeah, the purgatus's own flame is very fast and it crit a lot, the flame tick so...
I finally had that match where it did matter. always with the torrent start for that one assassination mission where it starts in the sewers
||We didnt make it||
spice veldt
it got a sweet +50% bump to its maniac adm to dunk on flamers
and hounds had their hp nerfed down to 1.4k
spice veldt
maybe more useful if you make sure to QQ to skip some of the animation
otherwise, the speed bonus from EP is minor if resonance is active, so the damage buff (which has diminishing returns because of how +damage% is factored into Brain Rupture) is the main thing
hidden crystal
Well, whatever the reasons, it will now stop most specials in one, which is a big help.
bold maple
tbh empower doesnt seem very useful for BB
ep make bb 2 tap ogryn mauler rager, 1 tap all gunners and specials
huge from having to 3 tap and 2 tap some of those
- no peril generation and faster cast time so you can go back to doing other stuff
severe folio
I finally had that match where it did matter. always with the torrent start for ...
most of the time the result should be like this
the soulblaze burn when you are quelling
lethal lagoon
which is the better revolver?
Left, change roulete to surgical and stamina to whatever you want. If you prefer roulette over surgical, change both perks.
paper loom
ah too late i pulled hand cannon and put on right
lethal lagoon
Hand cannon + crit blessing is the "meta". Those two perks aren't bad, so that works too.
plucky flax
which is the better revolver?
Change the right to have handcannon and surgical. Maniac and flak are good perks.
paper loom
ah thast a relief i thought i had made a mistake then
timid kelp
is this worth the 1800 melk bucks? I have 9k + can still do other 3 characters
plucky flax
I wouldn't buy it.
waxen abyss
I wonder should I keep Empathic Evasion with my assail columnus scriers build or drop it? hmm. it does get some use sometimes so probably not...
timid kelp
sounds good. thanks
plucky flax
Do you have true aim? If you do you crit a lot with assail so it's very nice against range elites pack.
I personally run it with all my assail builds.
waxen abyss
Yeah I run destiny with that build too
so i got true aim
the talent build for the mk4 sword columnus build i have
i kind of want one of the +15 toughness or scrier endurance but i don't know... and i also wonder about getting reality anchor
plucky flax
Too many points up top imo.
Drop that one that gives toughness on peril gain.
And change the toughness on quell to soulstealer.
You will regain toughness much faster when using assail.
dusty smelt
Is this good for the smite/voidstrike build?
plucky flax
So drop the quell toughness and peril gain toughness. Or if you really want meditation then 1 of the 2.
Peril gain toughness is our worst toughness gain talent.
waxen abyss
Yeah I agree, i forgot i had a point in that to be honest
i'm glad you pointed it out lol
plucky flax
I would also drop quell toughness for combustion.
hearty oak
most of the time the result should be like this
I never see the builds and see the horde wipes
mostly just console noobs and knife zoomers
severe folio
I never see the builds and see the horde wipes
the build is every purgatus build
plucky flax
If they clump up like that 1 trauma blast and instant death on all of them. 
waxen abyss
at least with purgatus you don't have to worry about spreading the horde 
tiny saffron
How do you gain stacks of warp flurry? It doesn’t tell you how, just says that it stacks 3 times
plucky flax
Charge up a staff with right click.
It'll make subsequent right click faster up to 3 stacks.
viscid matrix
the talent build for the mk4 sword columnus build i have
drop the dodge duration talent, it doesnt work as it says, all you get is 1 extra dodge, which is meh and not worth the point
waxen abyss
drop the dodge duration talent, it doesnt work as it says, all you get is 1 extr...
Yeah I just did after i discord searched it u.u
starting to get paranoid about talents and blessings lol
viscid matrix
😄 yeh its abig problem for FS and tooltips
half iron
they are wizard
stable silo
space wizard you degen
vapid lichen
Psyker is pretty strange
something something "what if the freak is a danger to us"
left hare
Or is there a faster way
vapid lichen
can you actually do warp l1->normal h2
left hare
No i have to light then h2
vapid lichen
i always just do l1->h2 to knock down the enemy in question so i can safely kill them
left hare
Im pretty sure
Watched old clips of deimos builds
Idk if current auric can let u channel that long
vapid lichen
test in meat grinder ig
if anything doing l1->h2 headshot->warp heavy might be best since they're already on the ground
left hare
Do u run uncanny slaughterer still
vapid lichen
or just another l1->h2 idk lol
left hare
Or is it uncanny + whatever u want really
vapid lichen
I dont have a deimos w uncanny and slaughterer :( just uncanny unstable
unstable is kinda nice though since i tend to pull out the sword while at high peril
vapid lichen
mkiv?
left hare
Oh
vapid lichen
people usually go uncanny and shred or uncanny and rampage
vapid lichen
idk, just check pinned guide ig lol 🫡
it shares blessings with deimos and obscurus tho
so probably similar?
left hare
Apparently its the same uncanny slaughterer or deflector
Also cool smite can headshot
So guaranteed critting
viscid matrix
So guaranteed critting
headshot isnt guarenteed crit, its a weakspot hit, you can crit on top of that
fallen zodiac
damnation ready
viscid matrix
damnation ready
so that psyker wants to be dead weight then
wet belfry
Deimos is good, that low of a voidstrike will not be.
Charge rate needs to be high on staffs.
vapid lichen
undergeared damnation enjoyer
spice veldt
voidstrike scaling isn't that much
it's 1.9s to 1.6s for the vstrike
and it's just damnation
vapid lichen
my friend and i played damnation earlier with lvls 25 and 26 lmfao
spice veldt
not even hi or hishock
vapid lichen
but we were dual ogryn with slab shield so it's kinda different
spice veldt
and missions on the normal board don't have the 50% tension modifier that auric missions have
vestal fulcrum
If it is just Damnation
It's fine
Like... just take Smite and you will be useful in a way
pale pilot
so what kind of talent trees do void staves want?
viscid matrix
so what kind of talent trees do void staves want?
depends on what blitz, aura, ability, and keystone you want, check the pins for the guide for basic builds
vestal fulcrum
so what kind of talent trees do void staves want?
You want Perfect Timing, True Aim, Warp Rider, and that's about it
vapid lichen
and missions on the normal board don't have the 50% tension modifier that auric ...
what's tension modifier
spice veldt
basically shorter intervals between spawn waves, as far as I understand
vapid lichen
oh
definitely feels like it
i just thought that was part of the high intensity thing though lol
spice veldt
patch 12 and before, missions with the same modifiers on either the normal or auric board were the same, but they apparently added a 50% tension modifier to missions on the auric board with patch 13
vapid lichen
histg is so fun
beep beep this is tertium amazon
we are delivering more large men to your front doorstep
half iron
men😳
atomic plover
histg is so fun
beep beep this is tertium amazon
we are delivering more large me...
U promise?
half iron
i want to be surrounded by crushers🥴
vapid lichen
they will have big cannons and heavy hammers and run very quickly and manhandle you very strongly
sometimes there are large men on your team and they perform very well in brawling with the other large men
median elk
i want to be surrounded by crushers🥴
Imagine getting five consecutive overheads
vapid lichen
that's when it's a very good thing that your large men are girthier and burlier than theirs
half iron
Imagine getting five consecutive overheads
it happens everyday in this dream😢
so glad it’s not real
vapid lichen
one of my friend asks me why i talk like this when referring to large enemies
i dont know
median elk
Maybe you'll be granted your wish this christmas!
half iron
one of my friend asks me why i talk like this when referring to large enemies
i ...
keep going. it will scare the spies looking into psyker chat.
vapid lichen
i also have terms for a large gathering of enemies such as "a multitude of men are attacking us" or "a bunch of bros" or "a gaggle of guys"
half iron
a plethora of hooligans, even
vapid lichen
of course
median elk
bros were just hanging out outside the gym when you lot came and ruined it
glossy ember
i want to be surrounded by crushers🥴
vapid lichen
a small group of friends (the largest swarm you've ever seen in your life)
half iron
my favorite collar for my favorite cosplay
bold maple
you may only thirst for big E, not heretics
vapid lichen
bros were just hanging out outside the gym when you lot came and ruined it
if i was lifting with my bros and pumping iron and some tiny screeching freaks ran at me with shivs i would also overhead them with my training gear
atomic plover
a commissar about to take you all out back to be shot
A commissar can take me out back anytime he wants. I can take back shots like no other, promise
vapid lichen
disregard the fact that i am neither a bro nor do i pump iron
half iron
the only thing i pump is more bullets into my stub revolver
median elk
disregard the fact that i am neither a bro nor do i pump iron
that's called IMAGINATION
vapid lichen
ranged backstabs against a bulwark
call that getting backshots on large men
fallen zodiac
damnation ready
ez game
vapid lichen
nothing else good on purg iirc
urban sandal
mods
vapid lichen
it's a mod
arctic sorrel
cool
vapid lichen
that's called IMAGINATION <:thumbsup_ogryn:1063452727302180926>
one of my friends is a bro that says i should pump iron though
ong i should probably do it
left hare
Accatran MG Mk II Heavy Laspistol can this pistol deal with unyielding?
patent hatch
Perks for chainsword?
vestal fulcrum
Accatran MG Mk II Heavy Laspistol can this pistol deal with unyielding?
With Infernus? Probably. Take a look at its damage values on Crit/WS hits on Unyielding armour type, though
quasi junco
and raking fire, shoot them from behind
left hare
how does VS stagger bosses?
quasi junco
on weakspots crits it does a brief stagger
vapid lichen
from pinned guide
patent hatch
from pinned guide
ty!
vapid lichen
although zealot chat has a pin that recommends rampage/savage sweep and flak/maniac for chainsword
up to you ig
depends what you want out of it
since the psyker recc is using it as a mobility tool alongside it being a melee weapon
patent hatch
Using it for hoarde clear
vapid lichen
zealot recc might be better then
i dunno, i only use deimos/illisi, ds4, and knife on psyker lol
patent hatch
The reason why I want to use it, when I first started playing back in the beta 490 was the highest power points
also chain saws are fucking cool
left hare
does recon lasgun perks like dumdum transfer to my revolver
pondering the limited store cos i need t4 dumdum
vapid lichen
the highest now is 550
vapid lichen
does recon lasgun perks like dumdum transfer to my revolver
no, blessings stay within the weapon family
urban sandal
Using it for hoarde clear
yeah rampage and savage sweep is best for horde clearing
left hare
does it transfer to my laspistol?
vapid lichen
so like, headhunter autoguns share with each other but not with infantry autoguns
left hare
are the las a family
vapid lichen
recon las share with each other but not with any other las
left hare
thx
late yew
What kind of absolute fuckn moron you should be to use medkit literally at the place of full medicae
vapid lichen
revolver only shares w itself since theres only one revolver
the different staff types dont share either
be cool if they did but nah
left hare
does charging smite do anything btw
vapid lichen
left click is fast at least
patent hatch
Does the QQ cancel still work on surge staff btw
left hare
are the smite extra perks good
patent hatch
+1 jump is needed
left hare
stagger dmg + the split
patent hatch
other one is decent
left hare
ok
quasi junco
yea but not good enough to forego other better talents
potent echo
Does the QQ cancel still work on surge staff btw
Still does
crimson zealot
For purg, the way you deal with mixed horde is to purg till soulblaze stack is 6 then shriek to add 6 more soulblaze stacks right?
potent echo
But it's not as needed because they shortened the surge duration
potent echo
For purg, the way you deal with mixed horde is to purg till soulblaze stack is 6...
Depends on what you value, stagger or damage
If you can reach 15 stacks then shout, you will reach 21 stacks
But not if you do in reverse
crimson zealot
aite that makes sense to me
sometimes the enemies are right in your face and you have no choice but to shout
potent echo
Yea if you have your build setup correctly you will have so much cdr that it wouldn't really matter when you shout
crimson zealot
i stole my build from purg apprentice, it should be aite
potent echo
Yea should be fine
crimson zealot
#psyker-class message literally this one XD, same perks and blessings on the staff as well
potent echo
Sometimes vs shotgunners I just preshout to stagger and precook them, then a stream of fire later they die
Oh he took assail
crimson zealot
lolll "precooking" them, ima start calling my shout that now
crimson zealot
Oh he took assail
yeah its actually pretty good
i tried BB before going back to assail
crimson zealot
assail is mainly for snipers, gunners, basically all the normal shooty guys that the purg staff can't reach
potent echo
Assail you are forced to take mind in motion
To me I don't need assail so I rather get the cdr
potent echo
After you kill a pack of elites you just get shout again
That's why I say it doesn't really matter when you shout
crimson zealot
I've tried BR build in a few missions and it doesn't have the same versatility as Assail
crimson zealot
That's why I say it doesn't really matter when you shout <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188...
Waiting 8 seconds is still aite for me
thanks to warp siphon
potent echo
Definitely it doesn't have the damage assail has, but I don't like assail mainly because it makes me not want to use purg as much
crimson zealot
I def see the value in taking BR and CDR talent though, its real good in messy horde situations
crimson zealot
i only pull assail out when there's ranged enemies. I didn't take any upgrades on assail so its hard to only use it
- 3 second cooldown now 😦
potent echo
Oh yea the build doesn't really have any points to spend on blitz
crimson zealot
yeppp
ornate hamlet
I've tried BR build in a few missions and it doesn't have the same versatility a...
Tbh I run brainburst to fill squad gaps
crimson zealot
Im curious @potent echo how do you deal with ranged units without assail?
ornate hamlet
Auric being as rough with specials as it is sometimes assail right click doesnt cut it if I need to kill some distant elite and my vet is tied down
potent echo
Movement
crimson zealot
I have skill issue then XD
crimson zealot
Still, it can only get you so far
potent echo
No one really has a guide to darktide movement, even though it's like the most important part
Purg has 15m range, that's plenty for most maps
If it's still too far you run to the flanking routes
Then flank with the purg
rigid rune
Carnival:
half iron
when that
dodge slide with extra tertium rizz
hits
potent echo
Carnival is actually really good for purg
crimson zealot
Then flank with the purg
Ya know what ima try purg with your BR build
potent echo
There's enough cover for you to flank major positions
crimson zealot
gona jump into a mission n see how id do
potent echo
Mainly you have to get comfortable playing alone
Because flanking you might encounter elite clumps, or specials will chase you
Thankfully purge lets you solo almost anything
crimson zealot
Totally out of topic but ive heard that Trauma is basically a better version of Purg T_T
aint a pysker main, is that true?
half iron
trauma is just a leg remover.
purg is cooler
potent echo
Trauma doesn't actually kill faster
half iron
purg shoots fire from your hands like the epic cutie a psyker is
potent echo
It's range is shorter, and it doesn't suppress as well as purg
Purg I'm a lot more confident running alone
Trauma is more for sticking with the team
stable silo
surge is purge like a man
potent echo
Because trauma flanking doesn't work that well and you definitely have gaps in-between traumas
half iron
surge is also cute, but it’s not a flamethrower
stable silo
its a lightning flamethrower
feral verge
On carnival hishock/gauntlet in a pub, I can get 1 million damage pretty consistently
With purga
That's what I did to get the 1 million kill penance finally
stable silo
i like how the surge and purge builds are indentical
feral verge
half iron
you play purg for the damage
i play purg to farm “oh wow jeez john psyker you are killing so much bottom emoji” voice lines
potent echo
I need to steal your scoreboard format
Ovenproof is good but it doesn't cover somethings like weapon loadout etc
ornate hamlet
Where is general chat?
potent echo
It's still there
ornate hamlet
Hm
crimson zealot
appreciate ya
feral verge
The build is slightly different now, since these screens were taken. I have kinetic deflection
I don't remember what I got rid of, to get it
I'm boutta leave for work so I can't check
crimson zealot
I'm boutta leave for work so I can't check
Np, thanks for taking the time to post
feral verge
Yw homie
sturdy dagger
my fucking god what is happening 2 this games community i just wanted a casual quickplay and i was forced 2 basically solo
sturdy dagger
only thing i dont get is not taking psykinetic aura instead of wildfire
potent echo
Slightly wild 
late yew
only thing i dont get is not taking psykinetic aura instead of wildfire
wildfire is trash
don't take it
sturdy dagger
yes thats basically what im saying
late yew
Ah, i read it wrong
sturdy dagger
potent echo
It does have an effect but also CDR is kinda really good but also not really
sturdy dagger
someone remind me what that single node does after the warp dmg increase on crit
potent echo
Toughness?
sinful peak
what's the trauma dump stat
late yew
It does have an effect but also CDR is kinda really good but also not really <:K...
the fuck
potent echo
what's the trauma dump stat
Quell speed, peril resist, damage*
sturdy dagger
isnt the dump basically the same on every staff, warp resist, quell speed yadda yadda
late yew
Yeah
feral verge
only thing i dont get is not taking psykinetic aura instead of wildfire
I already have a short cooldwon on ult
late yew
ALso damage on purgatus
potent echo
It depends on your playstyle and how the situation is
feral verge
With warp siphon
sturdy dagger
I already have a short cooldwon on ult
? so make it even shorter also inst that talent team wide?
late yew
no, it does ont
potent echo
Since purg and blaze has a delayed kill effect, you might alr have the CD back by the time the cdr effect kicks in
I'm just playing devil's advocate I will never take wildfire over cdr
sturdy dagger
"for you and your allies"
like
ik the randoms we get arent human but the value is still there
feral verge
Pretty sure it works
sturdy dagger
i also like
feral verge
Cdr for allies
potent echo
Nah you really don't need it
sturdy dagger
idk i get so much value out of it when the game likes 2 spawn 30 gunners across a large distance
feral verge
I just charge and burn them
sturdy dagger
shriek the horde and it dies from burn while i BB
late yew
BB is great for chain killing bunch of elites
potent echo
You just cross that distance and burn
late yew
need EP though
digital narwhal
Ye
late yew
shriek the horde and it dies from burn while i BB
It takes liek 20 seconds to die from burn
digital narwhal
BB is quite reliant on EP
sturdy dagger
It takes liek 20 seconds to die from burn
potent echo
But taking EP means no WC
late yew
Who cares
potent echo
Shriek also staggers, so you can preshriek then close in if you are having issue
late yew
preshrek
potent echo
Like that corridor in manufactorium
white cedar
I'm building Voidstrike(Surge) + Smite + True Aim but I can't decide the key stone between Warp Siphon and Empower 🤔
viscid matrix
I'm building Voidstrike(Surge) + Smite + True Aim but I can't decide the key sto...
go DD
Disrupt Destiny
white cedar
interesting, i will give it a try
digital narwhal
Smite is also granting True Aim stacks due to a bug currently
You can farm Crit Voidstrike shots
viscid matrix
Smite is also granting True Aim stacks due to a bug currently
its not a bug
its a feature that smite can target limbs/weakspots
bitter escarp
the 30 stack option feels a bit like a trap VS the 30 second duration option
digital narwhal
Oh yeah I forgot.
It’s a feature, mb.
(Don’t tell FatShark)
white cedar
30 sec or 30 stacks thou
digital narwhal
30 seconds imo
white cedar
understandable 😂
digital narwhal
Since all stacks fall off at once, being able to keep them up is important
bitter escarp
30 seconds gets you a lot more uptime because the stacks fall off all at once rather than 1 by one
gfdi one brain cell
viscid matrix
the 30 stack option feels a bit like a trap VS the 30 second duration option
depends if you can get 30 stacks often, otherwise 15 for 30s is fine too
its up to you if you can get max stacks, the buff is amazing when you are a voidstrike weapon
15 damage, 30 crit damage, and 37.5 weakspot damage with 15
30 damage, 60 crit damage. 55 weakspot damage with 30
bitter escarp
yeah, if you find yourself being able to maintain the 30 stacks it's bloody amazing
digital narwhal
30 seconds is great for keeping stacks during moments of downtime though
And I appreciate that
viscid matrix
yeah, if you find yourself being able to maintain the 30 stacks it's bloody amaz...
its almost impossible to maintain 30 all the time, but during some rooms you can reach 30 pretty easy if you weakspot kill the marked target often
bitter escarp
I find that bar the director having a fit, it's hard to keep the stacks maxed out
got used to the highlighting bug before it got fixed, so the way I played DD was to ignore it
and suddenly my Dueling Sword was lopping off heads on light attacks
white cedar
luckily psyker can swap keystone so easy 😂
plucky flax
night crater
yeah, if you find yourself being able to maintain the 30 stacks it's bloody amaz...
And it's so good with melee. Just cleave for the highlighted target and you keep getting these speed burst that make you so hard to hit.
frail sand
sends virtual pats
vague chasm
Guys what would you put in that spot?
wet belfry
Flak
dark hull
Guys what would you put in that spot?
flak or maniacs
idle bay
Rare case of 3 siblings and big guy. I miss such teams... they are valued treasure 🙂
warm mica
Rare case of 3 siblings and big guy. I miss such teams... they are valued treasu...
Who is the artist ? 😍
idle bay
Who is the artist ? 😍
Artist: Cristian García
(Madbabylon)
Easily found by googling source of picture 🙂
plucky flax
4 siblings run can be extremely painful.
proven belfry
So the damage increase blessings. Is vs flak armor the only common thing to put? I also see maniac but other than mutants and ragers, im not sure why else would use maniacs?
dark hull
So the damage increase blessings. Is vs flak armor the only common thing to put?...
manics is used generarly agains ragers, specials you might say they are bonus
but yes flack and manicas are the most common perks to put
half iron
4 siblings run can be extremely painful.
we’re all united under my beloved
lyric apex
Any advice what would be the best perk to replace the infested enemies damage bonus with?
vestal fulcrum
Here’s possibly a better idea: replace the CDMG perk, because it’s arguably worse than Infested
quasi junco
Is beloved Big E or some fantasy lover?
plucky flax
Beloved is me. Soucre: I am top 1%.
vestal fulcrum
Beloved is indeed supposed to be the Being sElfish in war
quasi junco
lol
plucky flax
quasi junco
But Big E eats psykers
urban agate
quasi junco
That one every 90 seconds or so
idle bay
But Big E eats psykers
quasi junco
lol
late yew
are psykers should have dogs, if you don't you aren't a real psyker
Cats
Dogs very anti psyker
Psykers are loners
So psykers should have cats
Dogs are for dumb social people
quasi junco
I prefer cats
quasi junco
I prefer cats
They go great with Jasmine rice and a good gravy
idle bay
This mine. Named Freddy
I wonder if get a summoner kind of psyker in analogy with Sienna - Necromancer in VT2....
late yew
I wonder if get a summoner kind of psyker in analogy with Sienna - Necromancer i...
how you even imagine that
What psyker could even summon lmao