Builds for Space Wizards

[sudden trellis]

Share the goodness here.
Don't make me regret giving you threads or it will be deleted. :)

[pliant pagoda]

BIG MAGIC

[vagrant cradle]

half of these are definitely being nerfed soon, lmao

[fickle comet]

but share em so we can experience power

[topaz prawn]

UNLIMITED POWAH

[elder thorn]

Oh sweet

[vagrant cradle]

infinite dome spam ;;
relies on constant warp charge uptime using warp battery + brain rupture's kinetic resonance, as the telekine dome recharges immediately upon use whilst you are at 5-6 charges (somewhere there)

throw down a dome, regen toughness & brain burst everything/set everything on fire to immediately gain back all 6 warp charges, making you do more damage & essentially storing a +1 to your dome charges

the key skills for this are literally just warp battery + kinetic resonance, but i've attached screenshots of the tree just because

UPDATE: this one's definitely bugged, one warp charge is enough to fully replenish the shield, allowing you to infinitely spam them as long as you get 1 special kill inbetween

this is definitely being nerfed, i doubt they'll allow a constant shield that regens toughness to be a thing

[small ledge]

So heres the build:
use smite aka bio lightning

thats all you need

[vagrant cradle]

just for the record

[fickle comet]

The psyker protects

[plucky hedge]

Eurobeat intensifies

[vagrant cradle]

this build works way better with venting shriek + creeping flames (i was trying to make a fire build originally) but infinite domes is, admittedly, funny

although with this setup (swap dome for venting) you can essentially have unlimited uptime on the venting shriek and keep applying flames to everything, since it's based on peril instead of warp charges now

hm

oh and you also barely gain peril due to venting's functionality + how much you quell it from kills & such

this will probably be the strat™ whenever infinite domes get patched out

[sudden trellis]

🤝

[small ledge]

not perfect, but dat damage

[small ledge]

Very strong emperor palpatine build, even without EP you got solid CC against hordes of elites like hunting ground

[fading iron]

@icy root Check these out! The dome one is so fun to do!

[mighty osprey]

Thoughts on if Wildfire is worth slotting into this build? I don’t know how useful Smite & buffing Soulblaze is

[small ledge]

Hmm, I can try it out

[slim scroll]

very short question, does it make sense to buff some critical hitting with smite since it doesn't seem to crit ("and doesn't have to" ;P )?

[small ledge]

I think it depends on the staff you’re running

if voidstrike, absolutely

if not, no

[slim scroll]

ooooh true true

[gloomy plaza]

My current build and it feels great

[mighty osprey]

Cool, a couple of people are using the middle purple to use smite for long durations. Is the left purple talents for damage?

[slim scroll]

left one feels like kill and get buffed lower peril generation, defense and offense

the more kills, the stronger you become :V

[small ledge]

So i think it definitely could work

soulblaze + smite

but it’s a bit tricky

[mighty osprey]

Because smite lacks damage I thought buffing it with soulblaze could help you drop targets so you can CC new enemies

[icy root]

Looks super fun! Although it might not match my play style 🙈 I love speed! So I’m still for crystals 😻

[small ledge]

You can’t really inflict it with smite

[slim scroll]

yea I'm breaking my head over how to do the most damage with smite and have the cc as a nice bonus

[small ledge]

If it’s possible, let me know for sure

I’m just not seeing it

Actually

Purgatis

Do a quick sweep of Purg and then shoot the smite

could work

[slim scroll]

true... I have tried the soulblaze smite path but don't think I've seen any soulblaze... but then again all I saw was lightning

[spare crypt]

would it be possible do a soulblaze build using the crit hit chance path?

[cloud parcel]

Assail Dodge Tank:
-Constant crits with a resting 14% crit chance, and guaranteed crits with True Aim.
-Crits enable Empathic Evasion which makes you immune to ranged attacks for 1 second.
-Stupidly high Toughness regain when using Assail, to regain your Toughness during dodge frames.
-Empowered Psionics allows you to spam Assail near endlessly, and thus maintain a stupidly high number of outgoing crits.
-Elite n' Specialist stunning Shield for safety, since Assail lacks significant stagger/stun/stopping power.
-Works best with a Surge Voidstrike Staff and any Duelling Sword (Must have Rending on it).

[fading iron]

Yass the crystals are everything!!

[icy root]

Guuuys! Please share your OP builds with crystals 🙈😼✨

[cloud parcel]

Just did above.

[steady pier]

how do you not gain perils from smite spam?

[gloomy plaza]

I've been getting my soulblaze by using surge staff to kill elites + my creeping flames kicks it in which recharges my warp battery

[cloud parcel]

Smite is currently bugged with Empowered Psionics

Doesn't use Peril when you use an EP Smite

[icy root]

You have it with the shield… but… I CAN’T CONTROL IT! 🙀😭

[slim scroll]

My unlimited powah build:

• the shield extra makes it possible to stop charging melee elites pretty good
• staff? oh right we had staves 👀

[small ledge]

gross left side shield

[slim scroll]

xD

[small ledge]

everyone loves the dome

[cloud parcel]

Both sides of the Telekine Shield branches are awesome smh

I prefer to block off Elites n' Specialists

[small ledge]

Fuck the rectangles, we love a smooth shield that’s as smooth as my brain

[steady pier]

lmao

[slim scroll]

I would love to have dome shields with 2 stacks that stop enemies and elites while giving toughness 👀

oh yea I think I've seen something buggy where smite stops muties and then kinda infinite stuns them with loud rapid fire moaning.... had empowered psionics during that

[pale perch]

Has there been any good shard builds up?

[harsh nova]

Ok so 2 questions, When i charge it, it shoots once, how can i make it so it keeps beaming with the right hand? (charged attack). And question 2 is how are you not gaining peril doing that? o.o

[small ledge]

hold the right and left click button simultaneously, if you let go of the right click, it will end prematurely

As for not gaining peril, it is a unintentional interaction between Empowered Psych and Smite, with a stack of SP causing Smite to just be completely free

[harsh nova]

Oooh i see :D thanks for the answers

[small ledge]

No problem

[pale perch]

What is your typical gameplay loop when going with this build?

IE; do you let teammates deal with monstrosities, etc?

Since the shards seem mainly good for general mobbing?

[small ledge]

I’ll typically use sword/gun to get stacks to increase my warp damage, I use the one force sword with high single target damage to contribute to monstrosities, and whenever there are elites i use shards

[pale perch]

Gotcha, gotcha.

Can the shards themselves serve to increase the warp damage?

Or is it only non-warp damage? (And, last question, how do you feel about the survivability?)

[small ledge]

Survivability varies, typically you’re gonna be in the back protected by ogryn or killing then fast enough they won’t get close

And the shards can boost i’m just forgetting which talent

[amber yew]

should i be using the Scriers rage for shards?

[marble merlin]

This is what I'm currently toying with. Still not sure on shards. Could easily swap to smite or even scream tbh. Just leery on smite until it gets fixed lol

[amber yew]

yeah the unlimited bubble sheild is dope

[marble merlin]

If I don't need it, I'll enjoy the infinite cannon lol

[scarlet marten]

You mean rectangle shield stuns dogs and mutants?

[plucky hedge]

Is this worth a damn? It used to be great as Wrack and Ruin, but now I'm not sure

[stray mulch]

It's essentially free damage, it's rlly good

[stray mulch]

Yuh

[pale perch]

Your build type so far has been my fave for sure. Only thing I swapped out was for a machine pistol over the staff.

[marble merlin]

Been using VS since before patch. it's been my favorite for long time lmao

[scarlet marten]

I like round dome shield more

[marble merlin]

the fact that shooters can't shoot out is great

[cloud parcel]

Yes

It blocks ALL Elites n’ Speciliats

[gloomy plaza]

Been pretty good fun but I'm sure it could use some fine tuning.

[gilded moon]

smells like gun psyker in here

https://tenor.com/view/loiter-squad-meme-bitch-smells-like-smells-like-bitch-gif-17588108

[pastel kettle]

what's your loadout like with this build ?

[gloomy plaza]

I’m rarely using anything other than the shards tbh, but I’ve got an inf lasgun and a dueling sword

[fading iron]

Crystals all day baby!!

https://tenor.com/view/crystal-amethyst-healing-crystals-gif-24427996

[short juniper]

been trying to figure out how to use scrier's gaze effectively, any tips?

[gloomy plaza]

Swap to melee and don't use warp attacks is basically what I've been doing but I'm gonna play around with my assail build once I'm off work to try and move off of scrier's gaze/equip an autopistol to see how that goes

[reef raptor]

Im using it with voidstrike explode less than assail

[short juniper]

haha yeah that's my issue too with assails and scrier's

one click too much and i explode

[slender spruce]

Will share it in full tomorrow but have worked out a pretty cool "elementalist" type build
Smite w/enfeeble
Shriek w/ soulfire
Warp charges (reborn in flame)

Using a purgatus staff to set a group of enemies alight then channelling smite to pin them down and increase their burn damage

[stray mulch]

Sounds smart me like

[fading iron]

@tacit walrus Check out these builds

@outer grail bubble sheild before they nerf

[hexed nova]

Sounds sick

[tribal pollen]

@slender spruce Hello, do you have any updates?

I am eager to learn more :)

[ancient charm]

using this for gunpsyker, recon viia w/ illsi

i run shred and slaughterer

[ancient charm]

deimos/purgutus. been liking terrifying barrage over warp nexus

[slender spruce]

yeah posting it now

[supple ridge]

all the assail builds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fBika6QvzE

[noble star]

what blessings don't suck for staves?

[limpid vigil]

Warp Nexus is BIS for all staves

the second blessing is up to preference but these are the best in my opinion

Surge blessing for Void
Blazing for Trauma
Flurry for Purga and Surge

[karmic roost]

im a big fan of focused channeling

[karmic roost]

Heavy Melee Tank
Combat Axe w/ Brutal Momentum
Revolver w/ Hand-Cannon

generate True Aim stacks with Axe, use guaranteed crit on an Assail or Revolver shot

the multiple crits per Assail shard will proc Perfect Timing if you want to throw a couple more shards

then switch back to Axe and build True Aim again
updated talents: #1158835513789272126 message

Dueling Swords or even Illisi are probably better for this, horde clear without using a Blessing slot, but I like the Axe

Tactical Axes or the Combat Knife would also build True Aim very fast

[sleek axle]

What is this for? Pure damage?

[ancient charm]

Was it always this way? I thought Warp Nexus was only good on Purgutus for flame ticks

[limpid vigil]

warp nexus is crit chance, you want crit on every stave

[ancient charm]

I asked if it was always this way. I found out Warp Nexus is crit chance by reading the description. Pre patch Void was quell and flurry. Purgutus was Flurry and Nexus to get max ticks faster and cheaper, faster charges

[limpid vigil]

pre patch, you didnt 1shot crushers with a Void Crit with Surge blessing

[ancient charm]

Okay so staff changes made crit strong on Surge and Void staff too now

[sullen breach]

how is this build for a support focused psyker with the surge staff?

[stoic python]

What are the differences and upsides/downsides of each force sword?

I've noticed the Illisi has cleave on its special and isn't single target

so I've been gravitating towards that thinking its just better but I see a lot of Deimos swords

[sullen breach]

Deimos is good for single target, while the other is good for horde from my understanding

[limpid vigil]

Deimos has good single target
Illisi has good cleave to take out hordes
Obscuros is a subpar version of Deimos that you can get at a lower level

[stoic python]

ty for the speedy answers

<3

[sly knoll]

@sullen breach I use almost exactly the same and it works great! Just gotta rely on others to kill hordes mostly

[sullen breach]

i like having more toughness and soulstealer for more defense than the no movement speed penalty during quailing

[dawn apex]

how does this build feel

[ancient charm]

It's fun and works. I went back to warp nexus on staff though. I just dont use mt active ability as much as as i thought i would

[limber hornet]

No I run the shield perk as well, but also yes in some ways. Scriers technically gives more damage and venting shriek has some utility but the shield ability has worked best for me. Honestly I'd recommend smite over assail for the build though, the stun is very helpful on 5+ whereas Assail only comes in handy clearing out loose enemies that the Voidstrike cant hit all at once. Voidstrike however, with the Surge blessing and a crit-oriented talent layout, is nuts.

[sleek axle]

Those crystals you throw do you use them permanently?

[cold sapphire]

my build which greeds for the +toughness nodes

[smoky halo]

What's a good melee for hordes?

[amber yew]

Illias

@smoky halo

[wooden notch]

On to a no keystone build? Out of curiosity, do you think you are at diminishing returns with toughness?

[limpid vigil]

#1158835513789272126 message

[cold sapphire]

ye, def some diminishing returns for a slightly better ability to be really dumb around ranged patrols

[tribal pollen]

So you're not using any keystone?

[nova kite]

correct

without EP im surprised you dont take BB

[cold sapphire]

ye; I'm not a fan of Disrupt Destiny or Empowered Psionics, and because it's mandatory for me to take True Aim, I don't have enough points to invest into Warp Siphon

assail is too strong 😔

[nova kite]

even without EP?

checks out

[foggy kestrel]

is there a generalist psyker lvling tree

[cold sapphire]

yup

[foggy kestrel]

psyker leveling feels painful

[cold sapphire]

I mix in my melee and assail, and that ends up being good enough

[nova kite]

do you not like EP cause its op or just would prefer toughness

[foggy kestrel]

ok i will spam assail then

tree gud or fked?

[cold sapphire]

this is one of the best nodes currently so I'd take that

the path seems fine so far

[nova kite]

yeah thats fine

[foggy kestrel]

ok did i take any unnecessary nodes or is all gud??

[nova kite]

could probably move off mind in motion just cause its not doing much

yeah id move off mind in motion and take the one arco pointed to

[foggy kestrel]

isnt moving while quelling good?

[nova kite]

you can dodge slide while quelling

so its not needed

[cold sapphire]

i'd personally only take mind in motion if you were pathing into the CDR (cooldown reduction) aura since you'd be forced into it

[foggy kestrel]

need to learn dodge slide

[cold sapphire]

basically press dodge then crouch

though you primarily dodge-slide for ranged i-frames

just dodging while quelling is suffcient

since dodge-slides also come with the downside that they count twice towards your dodge limit

[stray mulch]

Gonna TRY to make a solid scriers gaze voidstrike build tmrw

[tidal gale]

Hi guys. What weapon you use for deal good dmg for bosses ( Melee \ range) ?

[visual lintel]

brain burst goes hard

or just any of the warp swords

[tidal gale]

@visual lintelits not a weapon)

[visual lintel]

deimos hits very hard

still counts

[tidal gale]

ty

[karmic roost]

combat axes

[restive cedar]

What are you running on your curios?

[cloud parcel]

2x HP + 1x Toughness
All with Toughness Regeneration, Gunner Resistance and Sniper Resistance

[olive moss]

@ancient marten sry can you help me see if i need to change anything here?

im just putting it randomly where i see not sure which toughness regen stuff im missing out

[ancient marten]

personally i would do this

what weapons will you be using?

[olive moss]

should be voidstrike and mk 4 duelling sword

[ancient marten]

you definitely want warpkill 15% toughness

works on assail and void strike

[olive moss]

if i have a spare do i just go for +15 toughness?

[ancient marten]

you might not need crit regen also, that might only be good on purg

[olive moss]

oh purg crits? i thought those assail crits?

[ancient marten]

i would do this too

5% peril reduced is nothing compared to 30% quell speed

i cant tell if you have it not too used to this layout lol

[olive moss]

oh i have the 30% quell

[ancient marten]

oh great

[olive moss]

so i kinda gt 1 spare from 5% peril reduced

do i add 15 toughness?

[ancient marten]

but yea you can grab both the toughness up top

[olive moss]

i see thanks

the peril for toughness is no good?

[ancient marten]

its too little to matter

if its a choice between that and 15% PER warpkill

well that one wins out everytime

you rather get 5% toughness per voidstrike ball or 100% toughness (if you hit a horde)

iirc its 2.5% toughness for every 10% peril?

[olive moss]

true

[pliant pagoda]

Whats the good palpatine builds about nowadays?

[pliant steeple]

hows this build overall? Planning to use dueling sword + trauma (or void or surge) with it.
pretty standard right? anything im missing that is important?

im missing another toughness on peril generated talent up top i could take for surviability/toughness management.
i'm missing 30% quell speed, bottom left which is nice.
but made sure I was taking True Aim (for void staff and assail)

its similar to arco's build but i dropped some toughness for a keystone

I had a build I liked saved but got wiped today and don't remember what I was using lol

Would it be worth dropping 4 points somewhere to get 30% quell speed?

its a lot of point to 'find'. Would need to drop keystone augment, a +15 toughness node, and possibly one of the toughness regen or soulblaze perk up top

[fierce acorn]

I'd switch to right side of shield talents but otherwise looks alright. 4 points is a lot to find indeed.

[pliant steeple]

you think? I found the bubble underwhelming compared to 2 charges + stops mutants/elites from walking through

is the bubble overall better for the bigger coverage and toughness?

i feel like the bubble also breaks faster from ranged fire

[fierce acorn]

its breaking faster because its blocking bullets. that being said I couldn't decisively say one is better than the other, the toughness buff means the ranged fire after it breaks also does very little

bubble is much easier for the team to utilize though.

[pliant steeple]

hmm, true

but putting a wall at 2 different angles is pretty juicy

[stray mulch]

This build unironically works and turns your staff into a automatic railgun, do watch out for blowing yourself up tho as its fairly easy to get lost in the firing

[olive moss]

what should i change and aim for?

[hearty nymph]

15% toughness on warp kill

[pliant steeple]

Ok, after much deliberation, and similar versions of this build i know have been done a million times by now. But i've settled on this, anything outstandingly bad? Ok, after much deliberation
mostly using trauma, or void, and dueling sword or illisi

i can swap for bubble when needed, but i kinda dig the 2x walls

and stopping elites

is the bubble just better tho?

[karmic roost]

update for #1158835513789272126 message, the stat talent is better and the crit synergy is more important than CDR i feel (even assuming the shield reset bug gets fixed)

[supple ridge]

different uses I feel? walls are for defensive controller stuff (limit avenues of attack/block certain disablers and specials), while bubble is for defensive supporter stuff(purely rangedblocking but also a toughness regen zone)

[ancient marten]

Is fine as is, but you probably want to change your crit chance to 25% mutant

[ashen bough]

What perks and blessings for ideal dueling sword

Curious if you’ve updated your talents as well over time

[cloud parcel]

Flak + Maniac or Flak + Unarmoured
Uncanny Strike + Shred or Rampage

[ashen bough]

Thank you. Found a really strong dueling sword and wanted to try it out

Just gotta pick a staff to try with it.

How’s gun psyker since the talent rework?

[cloud parcel]

Really strong.

Mostly thanks to Crit Builds being really strong for Psyker, but-

yeah

strong.

[empty pollen]

whats a good build to level with just starting out? i would like to use smite at least

[fierce acorn]

honestly assail is the best way to level (very easy to use and high performance) but if you want to use smite just get the smite nodes and grab shield for your combat ability, or venting if you are still learning peril management. use whatever weapons on your way up, would probably recommend voidstrike staff when you unlock it since it's strong right now, melee can be deimos/illisi force sword, mk4 dueling, chain sword, etc unless you have a personal preference there. you can work towards psionics for keystone on smight

grab some of the early toughness nodes and you'll mostly be fine

wtf why did i spell it smight

try as many weapons as you can while you're levelling up, you might find one has a moveset that resonates with you and many more weapons than the ones i listed are usable

[limpid vigil]

any assail build, they can carry you thru all content up to heresy no problem

[wooden notch]

I have a friend who is a level 26. He hasn’t touched his ranged since he unlocked assail. He is really going to suck at the game when it gets nerfed, but it is allowing him to level quickly and play with us on damn.

[empty pollen]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a5a9c07-e627-428a-8ed4-089b3d0adbe1/primary?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button does this look good enough? anything that i should have that im missing on the tree? also no clue on the blessings or traits on the curios/weapons

[silk zinc]

Does your void staff have surge?

Or warp nexus?

[silk zinc]

I would get rid of the 5% peril gen and 5% ability cooldown on elite kill for the two crit talents up top.

I would also get rid of the two extra points in push and get 5% crit chance.

And then get either peril block or 15 toughness, or 5% toughness damage reduc

[feral girder]

dumb question, but are there any builds that aren't bugged or broken currently that I don't have to worry about getting fixed? I like shooting lightning and stuff if that helps

I like using a staff of some kind and deimos

I WAS running trauma but I also like lightning

[empty pollen]

im not really at endgame yet so neither

but, i guess look out for those two?

[silk zinc]

My talent comments apply either way, and yeah, keep a look out.

[empty pollen]

ok

[empty pollen]

what should i get for perks/blessings on the weapons/curios on this?

also is the infinite smite with empowered psionics 100% a bug?

[silk zinc]

Illy needs slaughterer, second is personal choice.

Infinite smite is a bug.

I like 1 hp, 2 toughness curios, 20% sniper res on all three. Do whatever you want with the other perks.

It's nice have at least 1 10% revive spd, a lot of the attack and stagger patterns are kind of designed to intruppt normal rez time.

[empty pollen]

ok

what would be the standard for the other perk/blessing slots?

[silk zinc]

Beyond what I've said, there really isn't one.

Builds aren't really set in the game just yet, patch just dropped, there's a lot of bugged interactions, etc.

New weapons and combos are still being discovered.

[sly knoll]

i wish every psyker i met in quickplay wasnt bug abusing or assail abusing

its hard to make a build without using either though

im trying a gun, smite build

lol

[empty pollen]

is there a good alterative to empowered psionics with smite? id rather not abuse a bug

[sly knoll]

yeah just use the right or left ones

[empty pollen]

ok

[sly knoll]

just make sure to jnot use bubble shield with warp charges

i got zero respect for bug abusers

[empty pollen]

what are the best choces for the stuff after warp charges?

[sly knoll]

soulfire is good

if youre not using soulfire

use the 4% chacne to gain

[unreal oar]

warp charges best keystone tho, and bubble shield is very popular

[sly knoll]

cant use both though

[unreal oar]

other shield is better imo anyway

mutie stun is funny

[sly knoll]

otherwise youre abusing a bug that any other developers wouldve patched out immediately

[silk zinc]

I just keep an internal timer for when I can use shield again

Probably overshooting.

Better than spamming that shit though

[karmic roost]

Just double cast it, then it goes on normal cooldown

[limber hornet]

No

[spare oyster]

is there a option to see damage numbers always i see a video someone can see what damage they are doing with crystals

[visual lintel]

theres a mod for it

[spare oyster]

ah

[visual lintel]

you mean for the health bars right?

[spare oyster]

ya

[visual lintel]

yeah

[spare oyster]

it shows that and then it showed damage numbers

[visual lintel]

yep

gimme a sec

i think you should be able to find it in the darktide modders discord

https://discord.gg/rKYWtaDx4D

[spare oyster]

oka thank you

[pliant steeple]

My 'classic' trauma + bb build....
pretty standard, but I gotta say it feels food. I know assail is what everyone is dick riding but I feel like I can carry hard with this build.
However, I still am missing 1 point to invest. Any ideas? Do I just grab wildfire (some are saying its still bad, some are saying its good)
Do I just grab a +15 toughness?
or maybe is there some node I don't have thats important, I should remove a few points and try to get?

weapons I use with above build

[reef orchid]

Hwat in the Sam hell

[vagrant cradle]

intended gameplay mechanic, clearly

[limpid vigil]

bug, warp charges gives 100% cooldown reduction instead of 7.5 % per warp charge for shield

[spare oyster]

i need a good build this weird one with the skull on F literally kills me it makes you go to 100% and down yourself so im mega confused

[limpid vigil]

Scriers is best for melee or gun builds
Try using shield or vent instead

[spare oyster]

im just bored of throwing shards of glass

i feel useless lol kinda boring

scriers kills me it made me hit 100% whatver and downs me lol it was awful sheild is decent

[fierce acorn]

if you're using gunker then scriers shouldn't be killing you, unless this is some new bug.

[spare oyster]

im new as of this week idk what that is gunker im just bored of throwing shards

[fierce acorn]

psyker that uses a gun instead of a funny void staff as their secondary. i.e. a way to deal damage without raising peril (since raising peril will make you explode when paired with scrier's)

if you're bored of playing shards you can try brainburst or smite. like there's 2 other whole blitz abilities to use and they're both... servicable, usually, in damnation

[spare oyster]

The staff is cool sometimes I see the lighting chain ones. Idk maybe I’m built to run ogryn hahaha or something back and slash and shoot

[fierce acorn]

yea if you aren't fully feeling psyker you can always try something else, there's 4 classes for a reason and they're all pretty fun.

[spare oyster]

I just feel not involved with shards like I spam them for horde then sit there

If it gets hairy I’m squishy everyone else is justmurdering stuff

[fierce acorn]

learn to melee so you aren't just an assail crutch then , psyker should have no issue getting into the fray especially with an illisi or csword

even duelling sword is pretty good in horde since it can pick out important targets quickly

[spare oyster]

True what’s the best sword ?

Or weapon to snag ya I just wanna feeel more involved in it all

I wanna kill stuff and have fun not just support

[fierce acorn]

illisi is, I believe, the best horde clear option for psykers - would recommend using something other than assail with it because if you have one you don't really need the other, but you could save assail for elites.
duelling sword mk4 is very nice and will kill most targets in 1 poke, and pretty easily takes care of crushers and maulers in a few pokes (i think it can oneshot but that's with a well rolled one under specific conditions so don't expect that).
chain sword is just really good rn but I don't use it so I can't attest to how good it is on psyk.

deimos is like a duelling sword but with funny warp powers. also has good damage, but i prefer duelling sword if i want single target

[fierce acorn]

i'm biased but i'd say zealot is the best for this, its basically the melee class and for the most part lets you sit in the horde and slap enemies around easily. getting better at core mechanics like dodging, weapon combos, spacing from enemies, etc could make a bigger difference than any sort of class swapping though.

[spare oyster]

Ya im level 18 so im going to just keep with it and try my best

I see a ton of skill trees so it confuses me

i dont wanna build wrong lol

is me currently

[cold sapphire]

you picked two of the best early nodes to go for so that's a good start

[spare oyster]

im just bored of throwing 99999 shards a game ahhaa

[cold sapphire]

I personally don't like Mind in Motion (no movement penalty while quelling) and would advise you to go for Malefic Momentum if you still plan on taking Prescience, but it is what it is if you're not too used to dodging yet

yeah it's certainly not the most engaging weapon ever

if you want to make it (slightly more) fun, you could try to go into a quickswap loop and use your melee with assail if you want to keep using assail and don't like the other blitzes

[spare oyster]

any way to be a melee guy and use the shock to like explode big hordes

idk like a shock veteran ahah

idk if you play destiny but i feel like a warlock and i wanna be ahunter\

[ancient marten]

No clue about that

But you can always play trauma/purg with brainburst

[ancient charm]

?

[ancient marten]

No terrifying barrage

Purg already suppresses everything

Take warp nexus on the first one instead

[ancient marten]

You would always want nexus + flurry

[visual lintel]

unless its the ground slammy one

then you want the carapace thing

[ancient marten]

Yea for purg specifically

[ancient charm]

oh my bad. the gear icon next to the blessing and perks means it was changed

and it can be changed again at the crafting hub

[ancient marten]

Yea just change it again to nexus

[foggy kestrel]

can some1 recommend an assail build plez thenks

[spare oyster]

any one have the shock build thats broken rn i guess its something to try before they fix it

[spare oyster]

so i found a sword with void staff is nice with shards throw shards cpam charge right click

for the bottom of our tree whats a good setup

im here rn

can i get it to let me spam shields if so this would be OP

[limpid vigil]

Scroll up, so many assail builds posted here

[limpid vigil]

Warp charges are bugged with shield
100% cd instead of 7.5% per warp charge

[spare oyster]

wait

whats that mean

[spare oyster]

what do i need to run to do so? Thats a good bug i assume right

im new so idk what a warp charge is lol

[cold sapphire]

warp charges are a buff that you get for killing an elite/special, if you've taken the Warp Siphon keystone

and yeah it's a bug that works in our favor

[spare oyster]

ah so if we kill a special we get out bubble back meaning bubble life

[molten marsh]

Right y'all, I need some suggestions. My standard build has issues with monstrosities, and it seems to be 50/50 odds whether anyone else is able to really deal with them. What should I tweak to better handle them?

[sonic loom]

You're good, I can't see a problem. Voidstrike is best for monstrosities (brainburst isnt), maybe replace blazing spirit with Surge if you have it. Melee is whatever, you really don't want to melee a monstrosity regardless. Dome shield is a great pick for monstrosities too, giving teammates a rallying point and some bonus toughness inside as well as protection from exterior enemies so they can focus on the boss. Unfortunately psyker just isnt a dps machine for monstrosities, its basically its one weakness

[molten marsh]

I have rolled so many voidstrikes for surge and I still don't have it. (:

Voidstrike feels like it just… doesn't do anything to them. Crushers? Bulwarks? Maulers? Eats 'em alive. Monstrosities? Nada.

Light tickles.

Would swapping illisi for deimos be an improvement? Illisi is nice for horde management, but… assail does that pretty well too, until it runs out.

[sonic loom]

do you really want to melee monstrosities

[molten marsh]

Absolutely not.

I would like to kill them though, lol.

[blazing wave]

anyone got a surge staff build?

[sonic loom]

If you're gonna swap melee weapons i would go for mk4 duelling sword because it does great damage on its heavies

[molten marsh]

I am opposed to using boring weapons on a psyker 😄

No gunker for me.

[sonic loom]

and I've found voidstrike to be fine against monstrosities but you just gotta aim for the head

most of the time I'm let down by my teammates when dealing with monstrosities, not by myself and my damage

i still manage to screw up and get downed anyways though so

[blazing wave]

thoughts on this build? i feel like im missing too many toughness regen things

for surge staff

[fierce acorn]

do you ever use BB or just let kinetic flayer do it

cuz the other BB talent is pretty alright when you've got low ability cooldown from warp charges

i'd personally spec into the toughness on peril quelled but otherwise its basically what i use for my non-cringe loadout

[blazing wave]

just tried it in a normal damn and it did okay. rarely cast bb but i can give the other talent a try

[molten marsh]

See, that's what I'm running into as well. I can't reasonably solo a monstrosity, or even do a quarter to half its health, before my team gets overwhelmed.

Which is fine. I'll add clear and let them handle it. Except half the time they either can't, or don't.

Maybe I just need Surge (:

[sonic loom]

in that situation, the best thing you can do is stay alive and try to regroup with your teammates

[near jackal]

I'm sorry maybe it is obvious but how are you not generating peril?

[small ledge]

Empowered Psionics is bugged and stops peril from generating

[spare oyster]

so can anyone help me as im new and now level 30 i have bad curios nothing etc what do i need to buy and such to finally make my guy good ive spent nothing so far

so im ready to outfit my character with that good good

do i just upgrade curios to orange or do i need to vender everything

i didnt eman to put this in builds my b guys

[ancient marten]

Max roll for health curio is 21%, toughness is 17%, stamina is 3, wounds is 1

I would mainly upgrade those with good base rolls

You can check your the armory hourly to buy good curios

Or find some from melks

[limpid vigil]

use the random curios from melks, best way to get some good ones without waiting for the 2 per hour

[fierce acorn]

^make sure you have a big supply of marks if you're ging to do this so you don't miss a good blessing

[spare oyster]

i cant find the build

in search even unlimited lightning can someone post a tree

[sonic loom]

You can go build 1 and not take advantage of infinite lightning bug or go build 2 and do

Adjust to your liking

[spare oyster]

Thank you and ya I wanna go infinite just a couple times with my buddy have to at least try it quick

[cerulean cipher]

Here's a build i've been using if anyone wants a surge staff build with some fire, if you're tired of abusing assail
Surge / Smite build with soulblaze talents
Gameplan is to surge elites/specials and spam F as much as possible to spread soulblaze on hordes.
Killing an elite/special and pressing F at 83% peril will generally kill any ranged enemies nearby.
Smite is literally only taken to reach left side of the tree, and to get +1 chain for surge staff. i sometimes go entire games without using it. Occassionally i'll smite after burning a squishy horde if i know they're all dead anyways.

Only really does well in high int shocktroop or maelstrom. You need a lot of specials/elites for warp charges, soulblaze, and cd reduction

[pliant steeple]

nice i'll try it out.
do you not find low horde clearing power?

[cerulean cipher]

no the burn actually does a lot

[pliant steeple]

or the stack dump with fire is just enough

interesting

you still use dueling sword with this, or like an illisi

[cerulean cipher]

this was my recent auric maelstrom run

although the conditions were the extra melee scabs so it was kinda easier to deal with

I run illisi but I really just use it cause it's cool. You can run whatever melee

i like having deflector to build peril while blocking bullets if the situation gets fucked enough for it tho

but it's kinda whatever

[pliant steeple]

still rocking slaught + unstable on illy these days or?

ah deflector

sorry

[cerulean cipher]

doing unstable deflector

[pliant steeple]

interesting, why unstable > slaught?

[cerulean cipher]

I only really pull it out for short bursts, so i don't find myself getting much value out of slaughterer anymore

[pliant steeple]

i see

[cerulean cipher]

slaughterer got nerfed so the gap is smaller

The way i use my illisi, i guess i could probably swap to deimos, but i'm so used to this at this point

[pliant steeple]

ya i love deimos i may use it instead

i love illi too but its felt not as great since patch

but its like, if i was gonna poke an elite

why wouldn't i just surge staff em lol

i feel like the illi is for horde insurance in a pinch

clearing 3-5 basic melee scabs quickly or w/e, those small little melee strike teams they like to send you

when are you using smite typically

[cerulean cipher]

the reason to use melee is basically just to kill mutants, which basically every melee does well so just take your pick

[cerulean cipher]

Oh, i'd also like to point out that this build struggles against bosses and long ranged snipers.
Although if you can get within 25m of a sniper, you can scream it to death

soulblaze is funny

[pliant steeple]

when would you want to pull out smite instead of staff spam

[cerulean cipher]

not often tbh

Sometimes you're surrounded and want to build peril safely for soulblaze stacks on F

or in a coordinated team, you can do it while someone else gets a revive or data interrogator

If it's a poxwalker horde and you know the whole horde has like 8 stacks of soulblaze, you can smite them while waiting for them to burn to death instead of surging them 3 at a time

sometimes those situations don't happen and you go the whole run without actually using smite

[pliant steeple]

why not just build BB then?

for sniper and maybe even instant proc chance on elites

[cerulean cipher]

You could

but also

fun fact:
This works on surge staff

for some unholy reason

the 3rd hit does very little damage, but staggering a 3rd shooter can be nice for ranged groups

personally i think i would use brain burst even less. I don't really think flayer is good and brain burst and surge are both doing the same job as elite/special killers. It would literally only get used for snipers

[pliant steeple]

performed pretty well in scab only + melee only maelstrom modifier lol

almost seemed like literally the ideal build for it

im guessing shattering trauma and void do well too tho

[cerulean cipher]

I'm pretty sure voidstrike would do better than it if you're good at aiming it

void is super overtuned right now

but i'm just looking to make a build that's different from the typical voidstrike/assail that everyone is running to cheese the game

[pliant steeple]

agreed

[pliant steeple]

i would guess something like this abusing bubble and assail would be pretty strong/meta right?

[cold sapphire]

take perilous combustion or i'll shank you in a back alley

well what would you give up for it though hmmm

[fierce acorn]

the marketing has gotten more aggressive

[silk zinc]

That's my issue. The alternative is usually peril block.

[cerulean cipher]

I give up assail recharge a lot of the time because that shit charges so fast anyways

more fun to be forced to occassionally use my staff rather than spam assail all the time

[cold sapphire]

i'd prob give up dome shield's toughness regen because screw my teammates

[silk zinc]

Doesn't it work for you too though?

[cold sapphire]

yeah but i peepee poopoo out toughness

[remote socket]

why not brainburst instead of smite, since you're running down left side anyway? Give you something to deal with snipers and such, and you still have your surge staff for dealing with armor packs

[cerulean cipher]

I don't really find snipers that much of a threat, and the +1 chain node under smite applies to surge staff. Brain burst isn't a bad pick though. could really go either way

[sonic loom]

honestly just give up the 6 warp charges node

[remote socket]

yeah it's niche but damn is it frustrating when no one is filling that niche and killing snipers

and the +1 chain barely does anything, it's like 30 damage and extremely minimal stagger

It is nice to be fully thematic though

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-sheev-palpatine-unlimited-power-power-force-gif-5073064

[fierce acorn]

i'm sorry what the fuck it applies to surge staff

[remote socket]

yes but the 3rd chain does basically nothing for damage

does have some niche benefits, though

it triggers on crit procs like mettle and perfect timing an additional time
edit: actually it's inconsistent. Mettle procs 3 times instantly when all 3 jumps crit, but perfecting timing only procs once. 🤔

[cold sapphire]

yeah, perfect timing is per-attack

e.g., it will proc even if your critical attack doesn't hit an enemy

[ancient marten]

brainrapture buffed to consistently oneshot hounds now i presume

also even more boss damage, maybe I should take kinetic barrage now

[hollow zodiac]

just a plop to keep the thread up

[hollow zodiac]

OK so just for info, spamming smite is more efficient on a single target than holding it
By spamming it on a sniper with 6 warp charge and the -6% peril per charge I go under 50% (usually around 40%) peril for 109 dps when holding it I go to 77% peril with 70dps

I feel it less true for 2 target tho

I was wrong ,with two target you have to be aware of the cone for one smite to hit both (if you have the +1 perk) and you reach same efficiency, but on actual map it might not be as good

[ancient marten]

lmb also push them on their asses so it ends up being similar cc time to if you just held the smite down

maybe channeling smite is not the way to go

[hollow zodiac]

I think for horde if you don't want to strugle with micro manage, holding is better, but for stunning a few elite you can probably be better spamming smite for the lmb push and the increase in damage

you do benefit from the perk quietude with the auto quell when you reach 100% peril and it auto quel 15% (so around 7% of your toughness is back)

it seem tu go up to 18% of auto quell but I don't know what change aside maybe me waiting a bit more 🤔

ok found it , it's the solidity perk, you go from ~9% peril to ~18% peril auto quelled by going to 100% peril with smite so a good help to get this toughness back.
I don't think it would be good with empewored psionic to spam it , since each spam would consume a charge, but disrupt destiny might be an interesting test to see if we can actually reach sizeable chunk of damage

if only smite would crit , pls sizeable selachimorpha

[cold sapphire]

fyi, you quell in discrete chunks
With an 80% quell speed staff, you quell 12.31% peril every 0.25 seconds, but the peril meter has some visual interpolation on the screen

Quell Speed, as a stat on the staffs, controls the amount of peril you quell per tick

but Solidity affects how fast these ticks occur

[hollow zodiac]

so you always remove X% / tick but the solidity juste mean that insteaf of one tick per second you get one every 0.7 second 🤔 ?
so that's why you get +100% quell and not 33% , cuz we get two tick during the msite auto quell rather than one

[cold sapphire]

oh interesting that was with the auto quell

that's an interesting interaction then

[hollow zodiac]

You end up a 91% peril without solidity and 82% with so from 9 to 18, it is indeed an inretesting interaction and makes my wave of 6 rager way more manageable than without .
All in all you would be better just pulling your gun out and kill them but it's interesting to see what kind of thing are possible with smite

[remote socket]

by spamming you mean repeatedly clicking LMB, correct?

without using RMB at all

or do you mean holding RMB and spam clicking LMB?

[hollow zodiac]

Yes

Just spam LMB, no charge .
And by holding it I also mean holding LMB. Not charging it up first

[ancient charm]

this is for purgatus qp solo queue so you can run around and collect mats while your team pushes

[ancient marten]

No keystone?

[ancient charm]

i'm probably gonna go back to warp, just feels bad losing charges

[ancient marten]

Yea the reduced CD on shriek is too good to pass up

[daring panther]

Heyho!
I am interested in learning about weapon effects.
The tree is more then simple enough, but I have no idea what special effect goes well with which weapon (and how to get these weapons).
How they synergise with the characters ability etc etc.

Right now I am just using a Dueling Sword for blocking and evading, a Revolver to quickly kill certain elites and Assail for everything else.

[proud moat]

i legit cant find a warp nexus at all or a high rated with good stats staff

[remote socket]

Looking to swap from Smite -> Brain Burst on my Surge Staff Soulfire build, to try it out a bit more in preparation for the changes next patch. Really want to pick up Warp Rider at the bottom but I'm having trouble deciding which node to take out in its place.

The obvious choice is to just go 1 point into warp charges instead of 5, which would let me take mettle + perfect timing at the top end, but I find having 6 charges really helps keep the shriek loop going quickly

[cold sapphire]

I'd probably take out Kinetic Flayer

[remote socket]

That was my other thought, I only wanted to take it in the first place because vent->BB spam->vent->BB spam is probably the best boss DPS this build could manage

but maybe I just leave that to the rest of the team and focus on my strengths instead

[sly knoll]

@short dune

[atomic arrow]

d

[sonic loom]

My high toughness regen purgatus/brain blast soulblaze build, focusing around very frequent warp charge gains for bonus damage, toughness regen and maximising uptime of our combat ability to take advantage of brain rupture's temporarh reduced charge time node.

My unhinged assail/shield damage build, maximising crit chance and damage sources. However, it isn't an assail spam build. Instead, it is meant to buff Voidstrike Staff with the Surge blessing, which is the main tool of this build. Assail is a CC panic button for when you are overwhelmed and need to make space, clear a rez, or there is a firing line of gunners shooting at you. Blaze force sword as a horde clearing machine for when you really need to get your hands dirty, but I recommend running the above MK4 duelling sword with this build to easily deal with mutants (I'm just finding ilissi so so fun). Voidstrike is your multitool. Horde clear? Voidstrike. Ogryn? Voidstrike. Monstrosity? Voidstrike. It is just so overwhelmingly good at everything that I only really switch off it when I'm totally surrounded, and even then it puts in work. Shield is a very nice tool to create rallying points for your team, pop over an objective while you fix a data interrogator, quick cover as you clear a room etc. And after the assumed fatshark fix to that node tree below the abilities section it will give you access to all 3 trees below it, and its getting buffed in that update too.

[near jackal]

In case anyone need to complete the brain burst penances without a being a burden, I would not recomend going above heresy as you are not very useful while aiming for penances https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a6e7d9d-5221-4ccb-966d-7ea522f2e707/brain-burst-penances

With this build I did all the penances about brain burst in random groups in less than 20 games

[naive lily]

What do i do with this ?

[grizzled saffron]

I believe the meta would be to change rampage to uncanny strike, and crit damage to carapace or maniac

[sonic loom]

yeah what they said

[topaz prawn]

What's our bosskiller weapon?

[grizzled saffron]

I would reckon the voidstrike with weakpoint hits? though you can do good work with a mk4

[topaz prawn]

ty

[topaz prawn]

a kantrael?

[grizzled saffron]

dueling sword

[topaz prawn]

Oh yeah thanks, was thinking mk 4 claw for the boss tanking/parrying and cleave, and having something do big damage is probably what I'd need

[grizzled saffron]

don't quote me on that though, I have exactly one stupid build I run on psyker on damnation
I snort space cocaine and can 2-shot crushers

[spiral trench]

wheres the peril meter during the attacks?

[grizzled saffron]

in the first video? empowered smite has a bug atm where it doesn't actually cost peril, so he might not actually have any peril at all

[sonic loom]

voidstrike with +crit chance, +unyielding, warp nexus and Surge

and with the 2 crit nodes in talent tree (crit aura and node before kinetic deflection)

although tbh boss damage is probably the weakest part of psyker's kit

especially in the face of what ogryns can do to a boss

but voidstrike can staggerlock bosses, especially if you have more than one

[spare oyster]

Hey guys i love my assail but bigger bosses etc armor we suck and a hammer zealot obv is better or ogryn are there any melee builds for us that do big damage

or is that just not in the cards level 30 again seems like a pain and losing the assail would suck as the team im always top dmg so losing that might

[wooden notch]

Hitting bosses in the weakspot with a mkiv ds is the best melee dmg psykers have against bosses.

[proven fossil]

hey is this build usable for leveling at 18? I want to try it

[remote socket]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a72ab40-95c3-457c-a95f-77975a8f72f6/soulsurgeburst

This is what I ultimate settled on for trying out after the next update

I think even with the nerfs, soulstealer and wildfire are just too good not to go down left side

[topaz prawn]

Thank you for the breakdown friend!

[wooden notch]

Yes

[sonic loom]

Yeah sure but you'd be missing out on warp charges which end up being a big part of the build but everything else should work

[proven fossil]

yeah I tried it a bit, idk about blasting heads... is tehre a specific way to play it? some elite mobs don't die in one pop

the way I played it is go for head blast and hide around a corner to avoid gunfire

[sonic loom]

for packs of elites you should be using your combat ability for the 75% increased charge rate

so you can do multiple quickly

unfortunately some elites not dying in one is part of FS's balancing of brain burst

it is getting a buff next patch

damage increase by 50, big damage buffs against bosses, specialists/mutants and carapace enemies

so it will likely 2 shot everything else now

[fleet moth]

i use fire staff with brain burst!.....it seems to work well

[west dragon]

I use this too.

[flint iris]

bug-abuse surge build for aurics

enjoy it while it lasts before the bug gets fixed lol

[atomic arrow]

where is build for popping heads

[atomic arrow]

what is the bug here?

[flint iris]

the bug is that you do 2.5x as much damage as intended

due to fatshark's coding ability

[atomic arrow]

which skills do the bug

[atomic arrow]

?

[flint iris]

#psyker-class message

[atomic arrow]

can you explain to a person that plays the game since few days?

[flint iris]

tldr if you use a surge staff with that tree, the staff does triple dmg

[atomic arrow]

by only using the staff? how to activate it

[sonic loom]

you need one stack of empowered psionics

it grants +125% damage to Surge staff

and does not consume the stack until you use your blitz

[sonic loom]

btw you don't need to have Smite in order for the bug to work iirc

[atomic arrow]

surge staff is the one doing big flame?

[sonic loom]

no, lightning

[flint iris]

no reason not to take smite lol

+1 target and 10% more damage

and plus if you use the EP stack you lose the damage

[atomic arrow]

shouldnt I get the perk to have 3 EP?

[sonic loom]

in his build he isn't actually using his blitz

just has it equipped

because smite perks affect Surge's charge fire

giving it +1 target and +10% more damage

[atomic arrow]

oh

[sonic loom]

personally i use this build to maximise damage and horde clear with soulblaze, and i actually use Smite

i do find Smite quite good in auric maelstrom, at least occasionally

but blessing of nurgle enemies are pissing me off

yes, i did just start doing auric maelstroms

[sonic loom]

because they don't get staggered by smite

[atomic arrow]

having 3 stacks of EP will increase the damage by 3x?

[sonic loom]

no

stacks of EP are just uses

so if you have 3 stacks of EP you can use your empowered blitz 3x, consuming a stack each time

it is not a multiplicative increase

[atomic arrow]

isnt it better to get venting shriek to spam more surge?

[sonic loom]

shield/barrier is very nice in auric

plus you can just...quell your peril

[atomic arrow]

yeah but cant spam it then

[sonic loom]

Whole team not dying > killing things slightly quicker/better

[atomic arrow]

how do you deal with hordes? I see this is strong against elites but it doesnt kill trash fast

[sonic loom]

melee

but in my case

i would use my blitz too

i dont agree with the "dont use your blitz" idea

[ebon badge]

What weapons you run with this setup?

[karmic roost]

a horde clear melee

[sonic loom]

Right now I'm using surge staff with warp flurry and nexus, and an illisi sword

[ebon badge]

Cheers, been running this exact setup and its so strong lmao

[atomic arrow]

can you share your talent tree?

for surge staff

[atomic arrow]

why go for 3 EP stacks?

[sonic loom]

Because I'm actually using smite

i swear we had this conversation two or three days ago

[cerulean cipher]

Made a few small adjustments to my surge + creeping flames spam build.
I don't really miss the 2 warp charges and the crit buff talents are nice

Movespeed on crit has been more clutch than i expected. Surge crits enough for it to be up often

[proud moat]

I managed to get Smite somewhat working smooth after fix

[atomic arrow]

which fix

[sonic loom]

You can probably ditch Wildfire

Also, no Soulstealer?

[dire wadi]

Pretty much running the same tree. If only we had space for 30% quell speed 🥲

Btw what curios if running deflector+kinetic?

[sonic loom]

up to you, i run 1 wounds 1 toughness 1 health but thinking of moving to 2 health once i get another good health curio

i also run 2x gunner resist and 3x combat ability regen as curio perks

[dire wadi]

Gunner res is a dead stat if we have deflector tho

[cerulean cipher]

I don't really miss taking it off tbh. I'm plenty tanky without it.
Mettle already covers sort of the same thing, although less consistent. It applies the 5% toughness per crit hit and my surge staff crits like 30-40% of the time and hits multiple targets so i end up recovering from combat just fine.
I'd rather have quietude to cover other situations.

wildfire probably wouldn't be too bad to drop, but meh, i don't really consider anything to be more worth grabbing. A lot of the time it helps by leaving 1-2 stack on a group of enemies and then i shriek at them and it raises to 7-8. It's not really that big of a deal but going from 6 to 7 stacks is a noticeable change

the best candidate for me to take with that extra point imo is the 6 charges, but i don't think i actually reach the 6th charge with how often i spam shriek

[cerulean cipher]

nah gunners can still be a pain even if you do have deflector. Their dps is insane and sometimes they can just surprise you or shoot you from 2 directions you can't block from.

also sometimes you might just want to intentionally tank a few bullets while shooting it rather than just tank and afk.

I personally run 2x gunner res

[blazing wave]

Anyone have an effective gunker build that doesn't use assail? Seems like assail best suits gunker playstyle tho.

[hollow zodiac]

You can use any blitz but Assail is simply " the best" one at killing;
I would recommand smite because it has no downside with scriers gaze as reaching 100% while casting smite auto quell 8% and it gives you run to breath and use your gun

Brainburst if you use a handcanon would basically be a worst HC but if you use fast firing weapon it can healp deal with far ranged ennemy

[supple ridge]

yeah you can perils yourself with smite but it takes a significant amount of effort to do it. i've only managed to do it in the psykanium and it took a bit of doing

[hollow zodiac]

there is a "combinaison" which I think it charging rmb over 95% or casting it while already at 100% but otherwise ,safespace

[sonic loom]

You gotta use Assail as gunker

the other two are not good with it

Smite requires too much uptime and brain burst is boring and also requires lots of uptime

when I say uptime I mean you spend too much time using the blitz instead of your gun in order to be effective

Assail is just quickly switching to throw a few shards and then switch back so they regenerate

[supple ridge]

actually yeah if you don't take the regen speed upgrade for it it's absolutely something you just yank out and blow your load on then go back to stabbing and gunning

because it's not like you have other sources of perils to manage

[sonic loom]

Yup exactly

Plus BB has a long charge time per use

And Smite requires you to hold it out for the full time period

Unless you're just using it for the stagger (letting go early)

Which is a valid use

[supple ridge]

also in that case you probably have decent usecases for the right click for like plinking at long range stragglers and whatnot because of how it locks on

to save gun ammo and the like

[sonic loom]

Yup, it's just the best choice

[fleet moth]

thats my main build, i run firestaff, melee doesnt matter, i tend to camp the staff, always charge attack, never use the basic attack, it can kill alot of things and usually stagger medium sized enemies that get too close, and 2 charges from a good firestaff is usually enough to delete crushers and bulwarks

[sonic loom]

I doubt your ability to kill crushers with purgatus staff

they take significantly reduced damage from soulblaze from their carapace armor

Takes minutes to kill them with purgatus

[fleet moth]

yeah, ccrushers was wrong, i meant reapers and bulwark because i can engerish

[atomic arrow]

does surge hit weakspots?

[cerulean cipher]

no

unless you count left clicks

[atomic arrow]

wondering if it triggers True Aim

[atomic arrow]

which trinkets for psykero

[karmic roost]

probly

even purg triggers it

[ancient marten]

Purg triggers true aim?

[karmic roost]

only thing that doesnt is BB and smite

assail does

[supple ridge]

so bb can get you true aim stacks but can't crit so it can't spend that crit

[ancient marten]

When you say triggers true aim you mean it eats the 5 stacks to give you a crit? Or it actually generates the true aim stack

[karmic roost]

only headshots generate stacks

ranged attacks that arent smite or BB consume the stacks

[supple ridge]

bb generates stacks because it always hits weakpoints (and apparently when it starts to stun someone that is all it needs for a weakpoint hit)

[cold sapphire]

https://streamable.com/0bk9u9

these are pro strats

who needs surgical

[karmic roost]

system shock 2 ass config

[left mist]

Rate my build? Level 17 right now, don't really know where to put the final points

I might get Warp Rider (Up to 20% from all sources, based on your current Peril), but I'll need two points to put in there

Not sure on anything else

[ancient marten]

This is not optimal in many ways, I suggest you check out the builds by pygex in the psyker atheneum

He will detail the good stuff

[left mist]

Alright, fair enough. I've only really started playing this week

[cerulean cipher]

Change this to creeping flames

[left mist]

Okay, thanks

[hollow zodiac]

wtf

[spiral cliff]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a8312cb-dd54-4412-9f45-ba22084f21f9/infantry-gunker

figured I should post it here

[ancient marten]

I think warpsiphon still doesn't work with scrier cooldown, could be wrong

[spiral cliff]

yeah, the cooldown part does not work but you get toughness regen and flat damage from stacks in between SG activation to smooth out the playstyle

[wheat pawn]

is Combat Blade a must or can you substitute with other similar weapons like Duelling Sowrd?

[atomic arrow]

should I change to maniacs?

[blazing wave]

Change terrifying barrage to the crit blessing imo

[ancient marten]

idk if 10% elite hits any real breakpoints for surge

rather go flak to kill gunners elites, which it does best

[atomic arrow]

which trinkets for wizard?

[blazing wave]

I run 1 toughness 2 health or sometimes toughness health and stam.

All with +10% ordo dockets ofc

[atomic arrow]

and other stats?

[atomic arrow]

like, def against snipers?

[blazing wave]

Depends on the build but stam regen, +5% toughness and health, combat ability cd, gunner resist.

Nah use cover or dodge snipers.

[atomic arrow]

so does surge generate true aim stacks?

[spiral cliff]

use what you like, DS, CB, even illisi or devilclawm k4

[wheat pawn]

sweet, thanks homie!

[blazing wave]

I was about to play a game using your build but saw another gunker and didn't wanna compete on ammo. So i switched to purge staff. I realized afterwards it was you I was in a game with. 😆

[molten marsh]

…is +dockets good?

[blazing wave]

It is if you want more dockets. More dockets = more weapons to buy from brunt's armory.

[spiral cliff]

peak darktide moment

[cold sapphire]

not with the RMB since it doesn't hit heads/weakspots

[karmic roost]

if you can get it to hit a head

then it will :)

[spiral cliff]

leftclick heads until crit, rightclick

[lethal mantle]

good ?

[ancient marten]

Top left soulstealer is better than quell, I would also swap out wildfire for anything (toughness/kinetic deflector) etc

[sullen breach]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a8ab24e-7823-487d-a834-732962588ffe/smite-support-4

any suggestions or opinions about the build?

[silk zinc]

8% base damage from 2 more warp charges is probably worth more than 5% toughness DR

I guess if you never hit 6 charges though, it might not be.

The two crit talents in the top right also stack really well with surge staff

Seems a shame to miss em

[sullen breach]

i guess i can lose that one 5% DR for perfect timing and switch warp expenditure for mettle

[silk zinc]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a8ab64c-efd6-47c5-9ce8-08df6a997552/smite-support-5 Is what I'd do without changing your original build too much.

Get the two crit talents, the lost toughness isn't that big of a deal since most of toughness is anti-ranged anyways, but you are a bubble boi.

[sullen breach]

looks good tbh i pick warp syphon because I don't want to use the surge staff EP bug

[silk zinc]

Yeah, I hate that bug atm. I really just wanna be a Surge smiker.

But I can't.

[sullen breach]

same here

[silk zinc]

I was really looking forward to the smite changes with the patch and they fucked up everything lmao

[sullen breach]

last patch infinite smite, this patch bugged surge staff

[silk zinc]

The worst part is that the new EP smite is actually really fun to use

[sullen breach]

i still think that smite as a stand alone ability needs something to make it on par with the other blitz but maybe that's just me. Give it just a little bit less peril so i can hold it long would be nice

[silk zinc]

Yeah, the other EP's have peril gen reduc, so I wouldn't mind that. Something like 20-30% less peril on EP use.

[sullen breach]

as someone pointed out other EP buff have 3 benefits while smite only have 2 feelsbadman

[forest garnet]

Looking for a surge staff based build. Any recommendations?

[sonic loom]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1170208619950772244/image-47.png?ex=655834b4&is=6545bfb4&hm=d5c6084ef47f9dcf91f3b480b819f66b238ba36c5d9ade4cafb535efd6a5e4c7&

[heady sage]

hypothetical knife psyker build.

no idea what ranged weapon i'd go for here

purg? trauma? recon lasgun?

[stray mulch]

try recon

staffs might be too dangerous without the peril reduction talents

[heady sage]

yeah i can probably remove that node bottom left that gives -5% peril gen and go for another toughness node

could also remove two nodes at the top and get assail instead, might as well get some use out of maleficent momentum

[errant lodge]

hey guys do you have any good soulblaze build?

[half escarp]

Like Brain Flame?

[supple ridge]

everything must be on blue fire

[half escarp]

Yes it must

[errant lodge]

something with this

[half escarp]

Ez

Illsi force sword + voidstrike

[spiral cliff]

empower BB double wall purg

your choice of melee, combat knife, DS, illisi

using the extra combat ability charge to speed up your BB when you really need it

[half escarp]

Deimos is also good but it depends on the staff

[ancient marten]

My purgatus build, focus on building peril quickly to spam creeping flames, BR is mainly for utility

[fleet yacht]

I tried it out, pretty good 🔥
Paired it with Maccabain IV

[supple ridge]

been using it with a shredblaze illisi because might as well go all in with fire and it's fun

also used it with a nexus blaze trauma and it also dpes work but you need to be ready to protect yourself at a moment's notice

[lethal mantle]

that look quite like mine, i dont pick kinetic deflect though, and opt in more range damage

[ancient marten]

yea im flip flopping around KD

sometimes its useless, sometimes its clutch

[wary ember]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a9ce978-7a16-4f53-8ca1-ae87acfca156/ds-2 this is my current build but I want to slot in kinetic def and true aim, any ideas? I thought about removing mettle, perfect timing and warp rider cause it got nerfed but I dunno if that's a throw

[jolly blade]

Any good gunpsyker builds about? been having trouble finding something that works

[ancient marten]

Try pygex's psylot in the psyker atheneum

[jolly blade]

ill take a look thankos

[reef orchid]

That shit fucks with Columnus

[marble merlin]

Just shoot cannons balls and lightning bolts to your heart's content. If you really REALLY need it, use shriek. It's just an oh shit button in exchange for your war charges

[neat current]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a9e8332-4a71-49d9-97d5-b7ec19adb2e3/spicy-brain-juice-2?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button
I made a big meme build cuz why not lmao

[blazing wave]

thats not even meme. pretty good build. except for the 10% chance to bb talent

[worn needle]

Whats the deal why is everyone against that 10% bb talent?

[neat current]

My guess is it doesn't trigger reliably enough or have enough of an impact on moment to moment gameplay to be worth the point when you can put the point into something more consistent

Also I'm a mk4 dueling sword simp so I have 0 idea what the better force sword is. I want one just for the ranged block but if its supposed to be for stragglers maybe the Deimos would be better considering its charged attack

Don't think I've used a force sword in almost a year

[neat current]

Rough idea but I'd say for now drop the 10% to BB talent and grab "Inspiring Presence" and maybe even swap to the Cooldown aura if the elite damage isn't changing the time-to-kill at all

So for where that "5% toughness damage reduction" could go maybe grab "Perfect Timing" on top right

[ancient marten]

Yea there are too many good talents to pass up

Forcesword push attack has been buffed to let it work up to 10m(?)

It's a nice and quick control option to stop crusher overheads or to stop specialists

[neat current]

Oooooo very nice. I'm guessing it would be up to personal preference but from what I can tell at a glance it'd be Deimos for single target and Illisi for crowd

[half escarp]

Yep

Illisi can do pretty good single target but you gotta do some shenanigans

[pliant steeple]

looks good, i have 1 issue.
Smite is in a weird spot for me. Its solid now, but when pairing it with void or trauma, it feels like overlapping roles.

What situation do you want to smite, that voiding or trauma just isnt as good? maybe for void a bunch of ragers? or overwhelmed with elites? But with trauma knock em down.

I have recently felt like smite* pairs better with purg staff, surge staff (hopefully once they fix its dmg lol) or gun psyker

I could be wrong!

this is just an issue ive had with smite + trauma or void

since patch 13

feels like overlapping roles

ive been wanting to pair smite with those 2 staffs too, but having trouble justifying it. Feels like assail or BB covers the weakness of trauma/void staff better

the reason i feel this way is;
Purg struggles with big groups of armoured elites -> smite them
Surge -> does (or did) decent dps to armoured elites, but is 1-2 targets Overwhelmed in general? Even by a horde or bunch of crushers? -> smite

Trauma/Void -> those situations both the staffs do very well in

[marble merlin]

Smite is there for crowd control when blasting the void won't quite cut it. For example when a pack of maulers or crushers shows up, smite is going to do help the team out a lot more than void will typically

Or providing a teammate a safe as another example

To me at least, it hasn't felt like much overlap

[pliant steeple]

maybe its less overlap with void, than it is with trauma

but void, last time i tried it (i havent played it since nerf, so) killed crushers so quickly

just shooting them felt better

does it still stagger them?

or no

[marble merlin]

It can stagger one I think, but yea it doesn't just obliterate them like it did lmao

[pliant steeple]

im not a huge void guy, i tried it on its change patch 13, it was strong, but went back to my trauma

[pliant steeple]

gotcha

[marble merlin]

If I was using trauma, I wouldn't use smite I don't think

[pliant steeple]

ya those 2 feel like overlap to me

[marble merlin]

Smite has a very wide stagger that void doesn't have

[pliant steeple]

i tried it last night (been addicted to my zealot, hadnt touched my psyker in a couple weeks)

and it felt overlappy

swapped ot assail

and it covered the weaknesses of trauma a lot better

[marble merlin]

For sure, that's what I think I'd do as well

[pliant steeple]

assail stil felt good, glad its not dominant anymore it was boring. but it is a fun ability to use so glad its more balanced now

[marble merlin]

The build I use covers holes in the party. I did an auric last night with a Trauma psyker and did a lot more smiting and blocking to cover the team as an example

In another game, I was just a rapidfire cannon

Being able to switch in the moment feels very good

[pliant steeple]

psyker was my most played for a long time

but since patch 13 its been my least

just got into the other classes

so haven't playtested as much myself

thanks for tips

[marble merlin]

NP. Note that I'm not an expert. This just works very well for me lol

[clever bobcat]

whats the general consensus on Curio's is it still 1 wound and then what are people running on the other two if so, toughness or max hp?

[karmic roost]

i think its considered 2 tough, 1 hp. but i still like 1 wound

[ancient marten]

Hp gives you the most leeway for mistakes, wounds if you blow up every 3 minutes

Although with hounds and burster corruption your 1st wound usually gets wasted anyway

[marble merlin]

I like the extra wound just because shit happens

[radiant niche]

what curios should I go for

[half escarp]

+1 wounds

And then either +3 Stam/+17% toughness/+21% health

[fresh turtle]

Any recommendations for a brain burst build to knock out penances?

[lethal mantle]

abandon all hope

[half escarp]

Empowered psionics

[fresh turtle]

Definitely. Ended up running a purgatus build with EP and knocked out quite a few of them. Still need the pox hound one and the warp charge one now lol.

[half escarp]

Hound you gotta get lucky but run faster bb with shield

Warp charge one is very hard

[fresh turtle]

Do you know if the bb proc on damage ability can complete the hound one?

[half escarp]

No clue

[supple ridge]

it's too inconsistent

it used to pre-13

but i don't believe it does it now

[frosty leaf]

Wait I'm currently running BB with purgatus, but not Empowered Psionics. Am I trolling?

[ancient marten]

#1158835513789272126 message

You shouldn't use bb much

[frosty leaf]

Ok perfect, thank you!

[wooden notch]

It is moreso you are trolling if you use a bb build with EP.

[fresh turtle]

Knocked out Malleus Monstronum and Not Even Close today. Not Even Close is exceptionally harder to get for some reason lol

Now I need to figure out the best way to get Warp Battery, my best is 234s out of 300s

[pure junco]

hi everyone i use purg staff what talents build should i use or comm recommend me to ?

[fresh turtle]

I used something similar to https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a53acd3-58ab-4983-8c82-abf70170c4de/empowered-brain-burst-soulblaze when I was running Purg

[ancient marten]

#1158835513789272126 message

[atomic spade]

anyone got good scriers gaze builds?

[lethal mantle]

gun or staff

[frosty leaf]

I was blessed to one time randomly finding a group of people that offered to help and got both the Malleus and another annoying one on the same mission, but up to that point was pure suffering

[atomic spade]

gun

[fleet yacht]

My Revoker build:
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9aae7734-148d-441a-82a9-4f6efb933649/revoker?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

I did some testing with laz pistol too. Felt really awkward

[fleet yacht]

Really like the shredder on this build. Dumps thu ammo tho

[ancient marten]

Blessings on shredder?

[silk zinc]

Have you tried the auto-mod for laspistol?

[fleet yacht]

Yes, it's a godsend mod

I was referring more to play style. I like to go full octane rush the hoards. And trying to use the laz pistol in the thick of it is not as fast as a shredder or revolver to get the job done

[ancient marten]

Laspistol more of a midrange weapon I think, since it doesn't really stagger

It's great vs reapers as you can pop their head until they die

[fleet yacht]

Powder burn + Blaze away
Flak + maniac

It's rager repellent

[ancient marten]

Yea I was thinking about powderburn

I assume it only works against ranged types? From it's description

[fleet yacht]

Yeah I think those are the only types that would get suppressed, the extra accuracy is kind of nice. Cavelcade could be interesting too, although shredders crit ratio isn't the greatest.

[ancient marten]

Yea shredder doesn't do enough crit damage

[fleet yacht]

Distrupt destiny gives some extra crit dmg so with that it might actually be a better pick.

[ancient marten]

Crit damage increase only applies to the difference in damage between a crit and normal

So probably meh

[fleet yacht]

If only the marked enemys worked a little better... I had some scab shooter hiding in the back far away durring an entire encounter holding the mark.

[ancient marten]

Yea you have to do scuffed things like looking away for 5 seconds

[fleet yacht]

Oh good tip

[ancient marten]

You usually shouldn't though, kind of trolling your team for a buff

Also enemies closer to your team gets killed too quickly by your team

So uh either way DD is suffering

They should change it up a little to make it feel better

[fleet yacht]

Yeah it doesn't really matter to me since I just farm my stacks from the hoard while i'm excorsising peril.

[ancient marten]

Yea and if you don't really mind dropping stacks it's kinda fine too

[lethal mantle]

DD should have proc on teammate kills too

[ancient marten]

Or at least pause/refresh duration

[cold sapphire]

i'd prob make the stacks decay by half each time the timer reaches 0 instead of just getting reduced to no stacks at all

[ruby gull]

i've
actually had DD proc on teammate kills sometimes

[lethal mantle]

explain

[ruby gull]

For some reason, this isn't like, consistent 100% of the time, but on enemies I damaged (but last shot was taken by a team mate), still awarded me DD stack.

no DoT on it like soulblaze or bleed.

just pure columnus hits

unsure if the game has a kill credit system or something

[cold sapphire]

it has a leniency mechanic like that yeah

iirc it's within 0.5 seconds of you interacting with an enemy (staggering/damaging)

[ancient marten]

I see

I had it sometimes when I BB an enemy

Had the stagger happen but someone else killed it

[buoyant pasture]

i'm trying to make an ep-br gaze build that's gonna be capable of mowing down hordes and dealing massive special/elite/boss damage, though i'm reading that people are saying that ep-br is a troll pick? i'm new to the game so i don't know the intricacies, but having two strong sides seems like a good thing... though i understand the need for smite as a good cc ability

[buoyant pasture]

in that regard, why not pick ep-br?

[half escarp]

Bb?

[ancient marten]

DD/warpsiphon are mainly passive buffs that really increase the power of builds

EP only works on your blitz, and that would encourage you to use your blitz more

BR is good in a vacuum but loses easily to psyker's other options

BR is mainly used when enemies are hard to hit (behind cover / extreme range)

[buoyant pasture]

that’s what i primarily use it for anyway, a faster br allows me to get rid of bursters, gunners, and snipers before they can cause problems

then again i still play on difficulty 3-4

not even rank 30 yet

[ancient marten]

the opportunity cost of not having warp siphon is pretty high

but you usually have to consider the talent point cost too etc etc

[buoyant pasture]

the on ability faster br is antisynergistic with gaze, and i wanted to make up for it with ep

[ancient marten]

creeping flames venting shriek with warp siphon is really strong right now, gives you hordeclear/shooterclear with just your ability alone

[buoyant pasture]

i like having the option to deal massive damage on command, and br hits that sweet spot for me, it’s saved me from a wipe many times

[ancient marten]

so your melee and ranged can be used for other roles

[buoyant pasture]

i prefer to use melee for 90% of the time

blaze sword bonus damage with special button

[ancient marten]

an uncanny melee weapon can deal with any elite much faster than BR can

[buoyant pasture]

uncanny?

is that a weapon modifier?

[ancient marten]

how psyker is usually built now is:

uncanny singletarget melee
horde clear staff/assail

psyker really lacks any single target ranged option other than surge, maybe voidstrike, and guns

[buoyant pasture]

i could opt for dueling mk4, that one’s a good single target, and has good pierce on heavy

it’s either that or illisi for me

[ancient marten]

yea thats usually the go to melee for most builds

[buoyant pasture]

cause i use the voidstaff

double cleave is maybe a bit redundant

[ancient marten]

unless your build lacks horde clear, then you might go illisi or Dclaw

[buoyant pasture]

i’ve noticed voidstaff doesn’t have damage reduction on m2 no matter how many targets it hits

[ancient marten]

it doesnt until it stops hitting

not sure when it stops hitting

but it is hardstopped by carapace

[buoyant pasture]

when it hits a wall

really?

that’s just the crushers and armored ogryns

[ancient marten]

yea you cant hit more than one crusher

also maulers

so for maulers you should aim for the body if theres a horde of them

[buoyant pasture]

interesting

on lower difficulties it feels like there isn’t enough to kill to fully utilize the right keystone

which is why i stray from it

[ancient marten]

for voidstrike you would want true aim if you run the surge blessing, which is just above that keystone.

i just realised recently that playing voidstrike without surge just makes it feels like BR if you arent fighting hordes

[buoyant pasture]

that’s kinda funny

i like the free br on hit, but maybe the chain lightning is better as a just in case option

[ancient marten]

free br on hit is usually frowned upon too

once again, good in a vacuum but there are alot of better talents to be picked up

[buoyant pasture]

rather than having to rely on br, which clearly can be replaced by void staff

idk the damage values, but void staff seems to be capable of nuking a horde of specials in one go, unlike the br

i like the bonus damage of blaze swords, however i can’t deny that dm4 isn’t a better option

i’ll have to rethink this build

i just know that i want to be almost 100% melee

[ancient marten]

yea void outshines BR easily if it cleaves

but against isolated gunner elites and specials, BR can be good

[buoyant pasture]

then… smite might be a superior option, i’ll have cleave, single, and stun

maybe not focused on one, but a good all-rounder

[limpid vigil]

Void is equal damage to BB when it crits or weakspot hits, if its both is more damage, and if you have Surge Blessing it will do vastly more damage. plus the attack can cleave thru up to 8 enemies

[buoyant pasture]

that’s genuinely mental, good to know

[lethal mantle]

that seem right

[finite lake]

Can anyone link me a good venting shriek build?

[fleet yacht]

Shriek is just a handicap for skill issues. Only full lightning build might really want it. Bubble supremacy

[silk zinc]

Flaming shriek is stupid damage on Aurics lmao. Also, bubble is a massive handicap, 😆

[silk zinc]

Which weapon and what blitz?

[fleet yacht]

They can all be considered handicaps unless you go in butt-naked lol. What matters is the reason, shriek is a selfish skill issue. Venting peril and killing trash is the least of your worries on Auric. Big DPS numbers don't mean anything if you end up losing.