#psyker-class

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fading iris
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we pratically dropshipped on them KEKCD

severe folio
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love draining my sanity out

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best part of the game is not being in the mission at all

barren arch
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this is my build for now, as well as the weapons I have (again, for now - Plasteel farm is hard yo)

feel like I can prolly get better rolls, and still not 100% sure what I'll put on my Sword just yet, AND I also wanna try out the Chainsword to see how that feels, BUT I did really well with this build on Heresy Carnival

it's honestly a really interesting way to play - the Mk1 Devil's Claw has pretty decent horde clear, the gun seems to do pretty damn good damage, especially in CQC, which I can enforce with my shields (literally, soon as I see enough gunners, just shield in front of myself and start firing), and for Bulwarks/Crushers/enemies that are really far away, I can store up to 3 really quick BBs that cost me nothing and fire off in like a second

it is certainly the shake up I needed after months of nothing but Flame Psyker

long wharf
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why did you take Perilous Combustion but not Wildfire?

barren arch
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no other source of causing Soulflame really

severe folio
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because wildfire is bad

barren arch
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Perilous Combustion is just to help vs big groups of Elites

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i.e. Rager Patrols

long wharf
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Wildfire isn't bad

barren arch
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it's not bad if you have other sources of Soulflame or whatever it's called imo

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since I only have Perilous Combustion, I'd be relying on getting elite kills to spread the flames, and even then

long wharf
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you may be misunderstanding how Wildfire works

severe folio
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what am i misunderstanding about it

long wharf
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Wildfire isn't distributing the number of soulblaze stacks on the dead enemy to ones around it

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it's simplying applying soulblaze stacks up to 4 on enemies around the dead one

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it's a massive soulblaze multiplier for groups

barren arch
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honestly I might pick it up regardless now that I think on it

severe folio
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thats what i thought about it too

barren arch
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I'm not generating any Peril 9/10 times either

severe folio
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but its still a cap of only 4 soulblaze is it

barren arch
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any damage helps

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worth trying it out, seeing how it performs

long wharf
barren arch
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regardless, I am very happy with what I came up with, idk how original it is but I have found my preferred playstyle

long wharf
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not that the enemies getting more soulblaze can't have more than 4 stacks already

severe folio
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its still only going to transfer up to 4 soulblaze around in total right ?

long wharf
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ah-ah-ah - it's not a "transfer"

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it's a check condition and then applying soulblaze to nearby enemies

barren arch
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no it's applying up to 4 stacks of Soulblaze to nearby enemies based on how many stacks the dying elite had

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so if the enemy had 2 stacks, and they had 8 other enemies around them, and they die

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those 8 enemies now have 2 stacks

severe folio
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i dont think those 8 enemies are gonna have 2 stacks

long wharf
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the next enemy to die then adds 2 stacks

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making them have 4

severe folio
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im pretty sure only 1 enemies among that group are getting 1 stack

serene roost
long wharf
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the next enemy dies and adds 4 stacks to all

severe folio
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its not multiplying up the amount of soulblaze traveling around

long wharf
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you can see it happen in the psykward

severe folio
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if an enemy has 4 stacks of soulblaze, die, then up to 4 enemies around him will receive 1 stack

barren arch
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I am gonna consult with the Elder Gods

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the Elder Gods being Google

serene roost
severe folio
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if theres 2 enemies around him, then 2 of them will get 2 stacks

serene roost
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I'm testing it rn

severe folio
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or if only 1, that next guy will get 4 stacks

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and worse

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if an enemy already have more than 4 stacks

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those 4 stacks from the dead guy transfer over, but doesnt increase the stack of the guy with higher stack

barren arch
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idk regardless, my point is

severe folio
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and my point is

barren arch
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for the build I outlined, where I'm only getting Soulblaze from Perilous

severe folio
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you are not going to

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transfer more soulblaze around

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you are just evening the soulblaze out and maybe thats good if you dont have another source of blaze

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but dont be under the illusion that its multiplying your soulblaze amount

barren arch
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actually I'd argue that it's prolly better if you do have more sources of Blaze

severe folio
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yeah except

long wharf
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sounds like I need to go dig into the code to be sure

severe folio
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this is not a source of soulblaze, its just evening out the soulblaze you have put down

spice veldt
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just testing on scab shooters, if an enemy has any stacks of soulblaze, wildfire doesn't seem to add more stacks?

severe folio
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yeah it doesnt go up above 4 stacks

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and like, if an enemy already has just 5 stacks

spice veldt
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no

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as in, if an enemy has 1 stack

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and an enemy next to them with 4 stacks dies

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the enemy with 1 stack doesn't get any soulblaze added

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they stay at 1 stack

severe folio
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wait they just need 1 stack to not receive wildfire spread ?

long wharf
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oh dear, that sounds very not good

spice veldt
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nvm

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that was misinformation

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it was just that the enemy was too far

severe folio
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gonna twist your balls

spice veldt
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i thought they were close enough

long wharf
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CBT is a Slaneeshi act

severe folio
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so if an enemy have 5 stacks do they get to 9 stacks

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or do the 4 stacks disappear because im pretty sure they disappear

barren arch
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they can't gain more than the target dying no?

serene roost
barren arch
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why can't Fatshark word this in an easy way

digital narwhal
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Enemies will not go above the amount of stacks of the dying target

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barren arch
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why do we need a PhD to understand how a talent works aaaaa

spice veldt
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there's a straight up limit of 4

serene roost
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yeah limit of 4 for wildfire

barren arch
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also why did me posting a build I'm proud of lead to this discussion

pain

plush aspen
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Man i just tried Bloodthirsty + Blazing Spirit force sword and if target die instantly wildfire not spread at all angymorrow

digital narwhal
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But yeah
Wildfire good
Just a straight up Soulblaze multiplier

severe folio
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no its not soulblaze multiplier

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we literally have been saying that

digital narwhal
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Or well

severe folio
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its not increasing the soulblaze traveling around

long wharf
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well, it spreads it, anyways

digital narwhal
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not a multiplier

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I worded that wrong

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but

severe folio
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you are just evening out the soulblaze amount you have made

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with a cap of 4

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and look

digital narwhal
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still

long wharf
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so if you have an easy source of soublaze, wildfire is pointless

severe folio
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if an enemy that already have more than 4 stacks

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they can receive wildfire

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but that wildfire will just be gone

digital narwhal
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Yeah I know

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I just worded it wrong

plush aspen
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Soulblaze wildfire is literally warp AIDS

severe folio
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for example if they have 5 stacks and wildfire spread to them, its gone, they are not going up 6

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its just gone

serene roost
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Oh I didn't know the part about it being gone. That sucks

long wharf
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less AIDS and more "the clap"

severe folio
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actually maybe you are losing out soulblaze if you go witb wildfire

long wharf
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warp chlamydia

digital narwhal
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Wildfire is mass hysteria

long wharf
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the gift that keeps on sharing

vagrant frigate
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i found my true purpose

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knife zealot

digital narwhal
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Enemies think they're on fire so hard that they actually just burst into flames

severe folio
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if wildfire actually spread up to 4 around all enemies equally and multiply the soulblaze around up

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it would be

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scary

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the purgatus apply 5-6 stacks with a slight charge rmb

plush aspen
barren arch
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basically infinite fires

severe folio
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imagine how nutty it is if every enemies around just immediately die from raising 10-11 stacks

lethal lagoon
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Get Rid of DD and just make it super wildfire

severe folio
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could be possible to see poxwalker dying with 20 stacks

barren arch
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basically just one left click into a horde and everything dies

severe folio
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and better yet

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while they at it

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might as well remove soulblaze universal cap

fading iris
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Ai Director really likes High-intensity missions, bro goes wild KEKCD

severe folio
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they living it

plush aspen
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Yeah, just have a run with 4 psyker smite wildfire venting before, everything melted

severe folio
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removing soulblaze cap would be a fun roulette

barren arch
severe folio
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think Unlucky for some should be replaced

digital narwhal
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Like

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why does it even exist?

severe folio
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because

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shatfark knows

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they want players to keep dying on horde of bulwark and ragers

digital narwhal
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FartShart needed to make a bait Talent

severe folio
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especially with the new british AI Director

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honestly maybe unlucky for some is ironically getting some use

ebon birch
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I'm trying to get into psyker and I feel like I'm probably doing something wrong but... I don't feel like a space wizard, really. Maybe its because I'm only level 10 but the two staves I've gotten feel very underwhelming compared to just taking a gun, and I feel like that should just never be the case for a space wizard.

severe folio
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since everyone dying so often

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digital narwhal
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Staves feel shit when levelling

severe folio
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and guns are unquestionably more damaging than staves

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even at max level

lethal lagoon
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Boss damage? Yeah, "unquestionably more damaging" lmao no.

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Blaze trauma is wild

ebon birch
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is this to balance that they have "no ammo"

digital narwhal
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Just use a gun and Assail to giga level, and then explore Staves at Level 30

plush aspen
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I ran my pskyer with infantry 1, that thing slap

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lethal lagoon
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Void with surge blessing probably still highest dps if you can nail weakspots

lethal lagoon
severe folio
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not really

ebon birch
severe folio
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well because smite arent there to delete things

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its to stall the horde

digital narwhal
serene roost
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I just found that if you ignite a dead body with soulflame it will spread to nearby enemies after a while with wildfire

ebon birch
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definitely more useful on higher difficulties

digital narwhal
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Especially with Empowered Psionics

lethal lagoon
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Smite will absolutely delete things with flaming shirek on super high enemy densisty on Auric Maelstroms.

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Easy top frag

serene roost
vagrant frigate
barren arch
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not a big fan of Unlucky for Some but meh, it's one talent point, didn't see where else I could put it into, so I just went 'meh'

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ebon birch
plush aspen
severe folio
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there are no tourist

vagrant frigate
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all dead

severe folio
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just londonian

barren arch
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in general I usually say, planning for failure is planning to fail

lethal lagoon
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Smite does the same dps to 1 enemy or 100 enemies. It will absolutely scale up like crazy on maelstrom.

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digital narwhal
orchid shadow
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lethal lagoon
barren arch
severe folio
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smite is essential but i wouldnt put it as ā€œstrongestā€

lethal lagoon
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No one is saying strongest šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

severe folio
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you need a DoT that keep enemies down while theyre being burned down

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lethal lagoon
severe folio
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dude what

south gull
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I never truly realized how shit the average player is until I ive started using smite psyker and players dont kill stunned enemies

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bizzare

lethal lagoon
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"Smite is literally strongest in Auric t5 Maelstroms..." Relative to itself, because I was replying to your comment about playing "you should play damantion"

ebon birch
lethal lagoon
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Smite is stronger in auric maelstroms than in t4s

severe folio
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i cant handle this blud

cloud heron
severe folio
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why not try kill shit with smite without taking creeping flame

digital narwhal
south gull
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I'll stick to assail for the time being

cloud heron
# south gull Thats the whole point of the stun wtf

The point of the stun is to stun enemies. Stunned enemies aren't a threat and free you up to take care of things that are threats. People aren't compelled to play the game around you just because you took smite

digital narwhal
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The fact that Assail staggers everything short of Ogryn enemies, Maulers, and Monstrosities is enough for me.

severe folio
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smite also does that

gilded radish
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did they add more shooters?

orchid shadow
severe folio
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except it also stagger orgyn enemies and maulers

digital narwhal
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But Assail does more damage

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digital narwhal
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And I also play Gun Psyker a lot, so

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I value ammo-less shooter management

south gull
severe folio
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but main thing with smite is that it slow advances and that also means more time to damage enemies

south gull
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TF are you on about lmao

barren arch
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I've always preferred BB, even over Assail and Smite

severe folio
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assail doesn’t actually stall enemies down like smite

digital narwhal
barren arch
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it's strong, it's versatile, it's perfect

plush aspen
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Or you know, use creeping flames and let them die slowly while your teammates handle other heretics

severe folio
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and you use smite for way longer than assail

analog agate
severe folio
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and you also have the ability to use smite much more frequently

digital narwhal
barren arch
severe folio
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you dont dodge ragers

lethal lagoon
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You underestimate the A.I director spawning them from thin air

severe folio
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ragers dodge you

viscid matrix
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BB is very underwhelming compared to Smite and Assail

south gull
cloud heron
digital narwhal
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Crushers, Maulers, Ragers, and even hordes sometimes just... need to make more noise.

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south gull
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true

digital narwhal
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I'm sick of being backstabbed by a random Mauler who thought it'd be funny to replace my spine.

barren arch
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see Vermintide's drilled that into my skull so much I just keep my head on a swivel

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it's actually bled into other games

south gull
barren arch
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Lethal Company has an enemy that literally gets more aggressive if you're 'paranoid'

viscid matrix
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assail can pump out more damage against a single target(1600 against a crusher is easy to do)
and smite can lock down a bunch of enemies along with kill a few of them

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digital narwhal
pseudo kettle
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chaydai should i use smite with purgatus staff ?

severe folio
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no

lethal lagoon
barren arch
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how does it check how paranoid you are?
well the key thing is how much you're looking around
and I am always the most paranoid

severe folio
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most of the time you smiting you can purging

digital narwhal
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Use Assail or Brain Burst with Purgatus

severe folio
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and most of the time you purging you can smiting

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so no point in overlapping tools

viscid matrix
orchid shadow
severe folio
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it gets their attention

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but it may or may not make those enemies die faster

lethal lagoon
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Bad luck I guess, I dunno. To me smite is my pub relaxation tool because everyone just jumps at attacking glowing things.

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It's part of why using BB can be awful

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People love that glowing head

barren arch
severe folio
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well then we shouldnt rely on luck based circumstances

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barren arch
digital narwhal
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It's an inevitability.

severe folio
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grond you have to look at the maelstrom i did with throd the other day

barren arch
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ye they should add the like boom sound effect that CWs have in Verm to the Ogryn enemeis

severe folio
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we literally couldnt get pass the bridge

severe folio
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its just horde of monstrosity

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snipers

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bursteds

digital narwhal
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and Ragers need to scream more

severe folio
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they even capture throd to turn him into a plorgyn

severe folio
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no the main problem isnt how sometime the specialist dont make sound

pseudo kettle
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my teammate proceed to skip horde and hit montrosity in public then backstabbed by horde

lethal lagoon
pseudo kettle
severe folio
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the problem is that there are TOO MANY of them

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and all their sound start overlapping

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and thus

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overload sound

barren arch
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honestly the endless mutant screams to me are fucking funny

severe folio
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and eventually it just dont have space to add other alert in

lethal lagoon
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It's funny when everyone is just standing around waiting for the screaming mutant, and he arrives like 20 seconds later.

severe folio
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and we are left with silence crusher because the game just dont have any more sound slot

pseudo kettle
severe folio
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they need to put a hard cap on present specialist

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of any kind

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@digital narwhal

severe socket
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Hey all, trying to help my friend out, what are the best builds for Psyker? He’s using both lightning hands, lightning staff and Vent. I think dome would be so much better

severe folio
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his build isnt wrong unfortunately lightning staff is bugged right now

viscid matrix
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the guide or the builds thread @severe socket

lethal lagoon
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Voidstrike with Dome is a solid beginner build.

severe socket
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Well he’s a good player just I feel his build doesn’t suit our comp the best. He stuns shit while I already have it tainted. We normally play auric damn

severe folio
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well

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then maybe you should describe what is his role in your comp

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and what does he want to do

viscid matrix
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does he want to be frontline, backline, defensive, single target killer, horde killing

severe folio
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and do you want him to do that

lethal lagoon
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I mean are you losing games?

severe socket
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So I’m the tank, we have a commissar who helps in melee as well as kill specials and we have a stealth vet who does stealth vet shit.

severe folio
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you dont have to start losing game to improve your build, just need to feel something off

severe socket
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We win some and we lose some. Just seems the psykers role is redundant with our comp

lethal lagoon
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Gonna go out on a limb here and say it's all the stealth vet's fault.

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jk(probably).

severe folio
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it might be

pseudo kettle
severe socket
severe folio
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unless you can describe the stealth vet more

cloud heron
severe folio
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so hes some sort of insurance

lethal lagoon
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Right, it feels that way. But have you considered that he needs to clutch because he's off not contributing?

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Lmao don't take me too seriously, stealth players drive me up the wall cause most of em play it wrong.

viscid matrix
lethal lagoon
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They just offload aggro onto their team

severe folio
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its not entirely wrong

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stealth zealot and vet does seem to thrive better in clutch

severe socket
severe folio
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but at the same time maybe they are why the team create so much clutch situation

lethal lagoon
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Then let him have fun lmao

viscid matrix
lethal lagoon
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Stealth vet is a larger problem to address

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lethal lagoon
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viscid matrix
# sonic coral Again?

its bugged in the opposite direction into uselessness, it targets limbs for half damage

lethal lagoon
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But it can also hit weakspots(without the damage) but this means smite and surge can trigger the True Aim talent

severe socket
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I mean if the lighting is really good I don’t mind, just heard a lot about nerfs for it and feel like he could be picking a better build.

sonic coral
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Pretty funny honestly

serene roost
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Is that a bug though?

severe folio
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yes its a bug

lethal lagoon
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Smite flaming shriek is insane DPS on any map with high enemy density.

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lethal lagoon
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Surge is still good for dealing with shooter hordes

viscid matrix
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its hard not to hit arms

severe folio
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if he is using smite and shriek then i guess his role is during the horde

severe folio
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maybe he can use voidstrike

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if he want a single target, long range kind of thing like surge

lethal lagoon
viscid matrix
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arms are infront of chest holding gun, so it will hit arm instead of chest

severe folio
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wanna make a roulette on what bug the lightning receive next patch ?

lethal lagoon
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I was aiming low and got a weakspot

severe folio
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my bet is that its gonna hit weakspot all time even with torso shot

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next patch

sonic coral
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It's funny seeing surge go from useful/functional but not overpowered to rubber banding back and forth between useless and almost literally cheating

severe folio
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šŸ’Æ

lethal lagoon
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Next patch is surge does 3x damage because it now hits all limbs, chest, and weakspot at the same time.

viscid matrix
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my bet is they will make it able to target exactly where you want it to go, and you can headshot with it, but because weakspot hits do minimal extra damage it doesnt matter

lethal lagoon
severe folio
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oh oh

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and and

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because it target multiple

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it count as multiple surge shot

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and build up peril accordingly

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so you built peril of 1 shot as if you shot 5 times

lethal lagoon
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You one shot a crusher but you also just die.

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Working as intended.

severe folio
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how it feels to chew 5 gums

sonic coral
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People did say they wanted unlimited powah

severe folio
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becomg lightninf conduit

sonic coral
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Here's ur Palpatine pal

lethal lagoon
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Also yeah, I have the reticule directly on a crushers head and it just goes wherever it wants to go.

severe folio
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and

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and

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the bug gonna leak

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into SMITE

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PERFECT

lethal lagoon
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Smite hits all limbs all the time

severe folio
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on all enemies

nimble lily
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Enjoying Psyker so far, only question I have is sometimes I hit 100 peril and I can Quel, sometimes I cant. Why that be

severe folio
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build up peril counting all enemies

sonic coral
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On all girls even if it's your girlfriend, smite will hit on them

severe folio
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if you finish a cast at 100

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then you can quell

lethal lagoon
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97 is the general number for casting staves so you won't die.

nimble lily
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Seems pretty damn hard to actually blow yourself up long as you have the vent ability, thing has a very short cooldown

severe folio
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dude i remember the quell bug 😭

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does anyone remember it

lethal lagoon
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Where you could animation cancel with weapon swap?

severe folio
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back in the old talent tree

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no

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where you just

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sit at 100 forever

viscid matrix
# nimble lily Excellent ty

as long as you are below 97% when you start the staff or blitz cast, you wont go boom, if above you will start the boom animation, and you can Shriek to get out of the animation

severe folio
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so long as you dont finish the cast animation

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for example with the purg if you keep charging and skip the cycle end animations

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peril doom dont trigger

lethal lagoon
fading iris
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perfect balance muklukDennis

severe folio
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and you sit at 100 all time

viscid matrix
nimble lily
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Noice, and what is the difference ebtween the force swords version, only used the 4 so far

viscid matrix
lethal lagoon
lethal lagoon
severe folio
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how do you get that much toughness and health

sonic coral
lethal lagoon
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Praying to the Chaos gods.

sonic coral
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No, the other gamer number

severe folio
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what is that curio combination

lethal lagoon
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one sec, i'll screenshot

severe folio
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1 health 2 toughness ?

lethal lagoon
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yeah

viscid matrix
severe folio
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i see

lethal lagoon
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with 5% health and toughness, but 1 4%toughness

severe folio
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ah

lethal lagoon
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to get that exact 200

severe folio
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on all 3 ?

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between toughness and health

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which one is more useful to have

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toughness ?

lethal lagoon
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2 x 17%, 1x 21% health.

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3 Toughness and 3 health perks

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1 toughness perk at 4%

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Uhhhh, depends

viscid matrix
lethal lagoon
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On playstyle

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i see

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then what is this 200 toughness playstyle

viscid matrix
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nothing can 1 tap me

severe folio
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melee psyker ?

lethal lagoon
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Charging shooter hordes, also it's mostly a meme

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I'm usually at like 150ish

severe folio
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so its vital to have at least 200 health ?

viscid matrix
severe folio
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hmmm

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gonna add more toughness on myself

viscid matrix
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- there are too many times when toughness gets outright stripped
- plenty of enemy attacks do more toughness than health damage
- we have more health than toughness, so those % go farther
potent echo
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I have 3x toughness curios with 5% health each

severe folio
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i have 200 health but not even 100 toughness

lethal lagoon
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Those rules absolutely applied pre-patch, but every class has such insane toughness generation options atm.

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Ogryn at 200 toughness is a monster

viscid matrix
potent echo
severe folio
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yeah

potent echo
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If not it's a struggle

severe folio
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i hate the bruisers

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ok then

lethal lagoon
severe folio
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need more toughness

potent echo
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Gliding melee attacks are stupid

severe folio
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how much toughness minimum ?

potent echo
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Idk I'll say 100 ballpark KEKW_ogryn

fading iris
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Just kill them before they catch you muklukDennis

severe folio
#

lets go 100

tulip trench
#

someone here stated toughness % was more important than hp since its easy to regenerate

severe folio
viscid matrix
#

tbh 100 toughness is a nice spot, and 220hp minimum

potent echo
#

Preference

severe folio
#

oh im

fading iris
lethal lagoon
severe folio
#

sitting 100 toughness and 250 health

#

and 3 wounds

lethal lagoon
#

^ that seems solid

barren arch
#

damn I am positively squishy compared to you guys lol

severe folio
#

why am i still squishy

tulip trench
lethal lagoon
#

Because you are a psyker

severe folio
#

maybe i need more toughness damage reduction

potent echo
#

I have 150 toughness and 188 health usually

lethal lagoon
cloud heron
# viscid matrix ``` - there are too many times when toughness gets outright stripped - plenty of...

More toughness translates to a higher average toughness when you're hit, which translates to a greater amount of damage reduction, which translates to more health

More toughness also means you regenerate more toughness, which further ensures you have more toughness at any given moment than with less.

Amounts of toughness aren't comparable to amounts of HP because toughness regenerates. Toughness is Damage Reduction and always translates to more health.

barren arch
#

128 Toughness, 165 Health

severe folio
#

yeah but maybe i am too squidhy compare to other psykers

lethal lagoon
#

Do you run warp toughness DR node?

#

It's right under the CDR node

severe folio
#

i do actually

potent echo
lethal lagoon
#

Then it won't change much

tulip trench
severe folio
#

damn

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fukin famish then

lethal lagoon
#

which do you struggle with more

tulip trench
#

ranged

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but i run bubble for that

lethal lagoon
#

Then try some toughness stacking

fading iris
#

Force Sword with nice stats muklukDennis ... is an MKIIDoomed

lethal lagoon
#

Then you are fine šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

barren arch
#

and ofc Gunner DR

severe folio
#

really digging this gun

barren arch
#

big shot

severe folio
#

if only they add some legs

#

so i can lay down

potent echo
#

Ew gunner DR

barren arch
#

bipod you mean?

fading iris
severe folio
#

yes bipod

#

add laser point

#

bipod

#

lay down on hallway

#

you know psyker should have some skill relate to gaining ammo

#

magically having ammo

fading iris
barren arch
#

if that's a brauto, add a laser

barren arch
#

if it's not, I'd advise against it tbh

severe folio
#

no its not a brauto

#

its a columnus lol

lethal lagoon
#

"Ammo hand" talent, inceases range in which you can pick up ammo to 10 meters whatthefuck_heresy

severe folio
#

its a columnus IAG

barren arch
#

ammo vacuum, sucks up all ammo to yourself

#

fuck veterans

fading iris
severe folio
#

ammo stealing

barren arch
#

I am the veteran

severe folio
#

kill gunner enemies grant you ammo

lethal lagoon
#

Ammo siphon, magically get 10% of all picked up ammo

severe folio
#

yoooo

barren arch
#

I'd be down for that

severe folio
#

yess

ebon birch
barren arch
#

that sounds cool

severe folio
#

10% ammo pickup from ally gaining ammo

potent echo
#

DD should have some ammo built in

lethal lagoon
#

I was going for a meme, but I kind of like it now lmao

barren arch
#

also I like with custom weapons

viscid matrix
barren arch
#

how there's always two approaches

barren arch
#

there's people who make giant guns and then there's me

potent echo
#

Like the peril quell talent should give 20% chance to get ammo too

severe folio
#

you use tiny guns ?

barren arch
severe folio
#

maybe you are under compensating

#

well that look relatively normal

potent echo
#

He uses gun giants

barren arch
#

tbf I did make my Veteran's power sword into Mjolnir

#

so I am just sort of doing whatever really lol

severe folio
#

you know kinetic presence should have been an ammo related aura

#

its called kinetic presence

brave fiber
#

does damage matter at all on a purgatus?

severe folio
#

no

barren arch
#

nope

potent echo
severe folio
#

its burn and radius

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79-80 burns

potent echo
#

I tried with a 70% and 40%, no difference in ttk

severe folio
#

for full stacks

strong gulch
brave fiber
#

thought so, wish me luck

severe folio
#

radius as big as possible for biggest possible burn zone

#

oh man

#

well

#

i wouldnt pick that personally

lethal lagoon
#

Man I love this mod. Smite staff should be a hammer anyways.

potent echo
#

Yep that's golden

severe folio
#

because i like a little bit of damage

barren arch
potent echo
#

It literally doesn't do anything though whatthefuck_heresy

severe folio
#

wait i have to do that now

barren arch
#

though I did it for the flame staff

lethal lagoon
barren arch
#

don't use thunder staff

barren arch
#

why shoot thunder when can have fire

potent echo
#

I don't think damage even affects that KEKW_ogryn

barren arch
#

why be discount palpatine when can be bootleg Sienna

severe folio
#

you dont know what head im using

potent echo
#

I still want my bootleg fireball staff and my bootleg beam staff

barren arch
#

I want bootleg beam staff too

severe folio
#

force glaive update šŸ’Æ

brave fiber
#

what do yall take 2nd perk on purgatus other than crit chance

severe folio
#

flurry

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to improve the charge time

#

and it helps a lot

brave fiber
potent echo
severe folio
#

oh

potent echo
#

Some people like crit chance

ebon birch
severe folio
#

perks

potent echo
#

Flak is a must

severe folio
barren arch
#

that looks a lot like my Zealot's 'thammer', which is really a Skaven halberd

ebon birch
severe folio
#

no joke it really look like a good force staff 😭

#

and now i really want a force staff melee

barren arch
#

now use the bash attack on some heretics

unique sand
#

is this worth the melkbucks or is surge useless now

severe folio
#

fukin perfect

barren arch
#

and marvel at it doing like

potent echo
#

Can you even see anything with that big head

barren arch
#

1 damage

severe folio
potent echo
severe folio
#

so, maybe ?

lethal lagoon
brave fiber
#

turned out not too bad if i say so myself

lethal lagoon
#

True Aim with smite and Surge almost outbalances the broken damage

severe folio
potent echo
severe folio
#

should be flak maniac though

barren arch
unique sand
#

im guessing keep the blessings and change both perks for the surge staff?

severe folio
#

you have enough crit in purg that 5% isnt gonna do much

potent echo
#

5% might give you more chance for empathic

lethal lagoon
severe folio
#

nah

potent echo
#

It's a dice roll

severe folio
#

dont need that 5%

potent echo
#

I agree just playing devil's advocate

severe folio
#

i dont run that 5% and empathic proc 100% of the time for me

lethal lagoon
#

Yeah, keep the blessings, play around with the perks

pseudo kettle
#

do we have proper build for purgatus ?

severe folio
#

Maybe

#

should be in the build thread

lethal lagoon
#

Bout to go in with the peak psyker build, wish me luck

severe folio
#

want my scrier purg ?

potent echo
#

Er I posted one hold on

barren arch
pseudo kettle
brave fiber
#

regardless I have both perks rolled so i can play around with it as much as i want, i just feel like maniac is weird to take on purgatus no?

lethal lagoon
severe folio
severe folio
#

and mutant too

pseudo kettle
severe folio
#

surprisingly

severe folio
lethal lagoon
#

I never thought about running scrier purg, that's a pretty good idea.

severe folio
#

its a horrible idea

#

but i love it

pseudo kettle
potent echo
#

It's a fair weather build

severe folio
#

you apply full soulblaze stack in a single charge

potent echo
#

It's nice if things are going smoothly KEKW_ogryn

pseudo kettle
severe folio
#

but the main thing here is the raw damage of the flame

#

the raw damage is super strong

#

like

potent echo
#

Also you get empathic almost constantly

severe folio
#

just use it and youll see

potent echo
#

Kind of but not really

severe folio
#

no you dont need to worry about empathic with purg

#

with nexus you dont need scrier

#

youll get empathic very often with just nexus

potent echo
#

I still get blasted sometimes by 10 shotgunners

#

Empathic let me down

severe folio
#

hm

#

okay maybe some people can use scrier

#

but the scrier purg is very fragile

#

and you blow yourself up at least once

#

every mission

potent echo
#

You can't be as aggro as venting

severe folio
#

because you gonna want to blow your flamer like a zealot

paper maple
#

worth from melk?

severe folio
#

you cant be as aggro, but you gonna want to be

#

because your flame will just fuk really hard lit

#

like

#

solar beam hard

lethal lagoon
#

Neither of those blessings are correct right?

severe folio
#

dont know much about shredder

potent echo
paper maple
#

rip

lethal lagoon
#

I think you need stagger and blaze away or something

potent echo
#

Pinning fire got nerfed hard

lethal lagoon
#

It does 0 crit damage

potent echo
#

Yea blazeaway probably

paper maple
#

good to knowww ty

tawny jewel
lethal lagoon
#

Yeah pinning fire, it's still okish after nerf šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

#

Was just dumb pre-nerf

#

Definitely better options on psyker no question

#

If you are flush with melks, it never hurts to shore your bets for future patches and collect some t4 blessings, but if you are under 10k, don't bother.

severe folio
#

also

#

why the fuk does the flame from purg doesnt come from the staff

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like sienna's flamer

#

i think i would enjoy the purg 100 time more if it does

#

actually i would enjoy every staff 100 time more if effect actually come out of the staff like the voidstrike

lethal lagoon
#

Weapon special* needs to be an actual psyker ability instead of a useless melee attack

#

Give me a gandalf staff slam or some shit

#

I wanna tell a plague ogryn it shall not pass.

lethal lagoon
#

I forgot everyone probably has a different keybind for weapon special lmao

severe folio
#

call it staff melee

pseudo kettle
severe folio
pseudo kettle
#

not u giving staff power to spitting fire

potent echo
#

Yea it's just like a channeling thing apparently (no clue what that means)

tawny jewel
severe folio
#

its like this

#

here

#

staff is like lightning rod to attract specific warp-power flavor

#

and you vomit out that flavor onto the enemy

#

so basically

#

warp shit goes into staff

#

staff transfer warp shit into you

#

you shit out warp shit

tawny jewel
#

would be funny if the flames came out of the mouth instead

potent echo
#

So the staff is like an antenna

severe folio
#

that wouldnt be funny that would be GOOD

#

yeah the staf fis the antenna

potent echo
#

Perils of the 5G

#

Gonna give us all the rona

severe folio
#

omg 😭

#

YO

tawny jewel
#

so wait we're just infused rona? 😮

severe folio
#

why isthere

#

no

#

poison based

#

warp power

#

WE COULD HAVE A STAFF WITH THAT

#

actually that may be heretical

#

nvm

potent echo
#

That's bonbon spit

severe folio
#

my mod can do that

tawny jewel
#

that concept seems like something the dark eldar would cook up

severe folio
lethal lagoon
#

Literally anything is better than the actual blinding white flame

#

Actual highbeams while driving at night hurt my eyes less

tawny jewel
#

I think it shouldn't be a spread maybe poision trap?

#

like poision bomb traps on the ground to help out smite psykers

potent echo
chrome linden
#

wich onbe? one gives me "empowered psionics on elite kill gurantee" or "increase empoer psionic gain chance from 7.5 to 12.5"

potent echo
#

The sad thing about custom flames is that it doesn't change the soulblaze effect

chrome linden
#

thats what im working on. thanks

#

can assail crit?

lethal lagoon
#

ye

#

it changes color when it crits

chrome linden
#

ohhhh

#

the purple stream

winter magnet
#

hey quick question. im looking at this guide and it says precognation isnt great on dueling swords. whats the reasoning?

tulip trench
#

why dodge when you can kill faster?

lucid terrace
#

Rampage\

#

Need rampage

#

Destroy the planet with rampage

winter magnet
#

does rampage even proc that much with the dueling swords?

tulip trench
#

ya

lethal lagoon
#

rampage kind of pointless on mk4 since you shouldn't really be horde clearing with it.

severe folio
potent echo
spice veldt
#

duelling sword lights have 4.5 cleave now

#

is rampage still bugged?

severe folio
#

yes still bugged

spice veldt
#

neat

#

then another reason to pick rampage is that it's giving +36% power AND +50% damage

radiant jungle
#

best weapon in the game

spice veldt
#

I would run an uncanny + rampage duelling sword for anything except monstrosity/melee maelstrom

severe folio
#

yes i do too

spice veldt
#

unless you have hordeclear on your ranged slot

severe folio
#

rampage uncanny 2 shot crushers

chrome linden
#

i hate this game

severe folio
#

same

sonic coral
potent echo
#

Rampage doesn't help against bosses as much as precog/riposte does though

#

So depends on how you use your sword

ebon birch
chrome linden
#

i no longer play because i enjoy the game

I PLAY OUT OF SPITE

I WONT QUIT, THE DEVS WILL

winter magnet
#

I use my sword to clear an elite that is to close, and sometimes to duel bosses

potent echo
#

Lmao my friend is sweating with vet and zealot, I'm like dude just play ogryn KEKW_ogryn

#

1mil damage kickback

#

Don't even need to aim

paper maple
#

flak or maniac?

severe folio
potent echo
#

Maniac

chrome linden
#

FLAK

paper maple
#

xD

severe folio
#

damn thats an amped up mk4

#

fukin 380

potent echo
#

You don't need flak

paper maple
#

just rolled it :DDD

sonic coral
potent echo
#

It can already one shot shotgunners

paper maple
#

roflmaooo

chrome linden
#

you need flak

sonic coral
#
  • crit damage
severe folio
potent echo
#

Gunners maybe sometime

river stirrup
tawny jewel
severe folio
severe folio
paper maple
#

damn i just realized the one i was using was also 380 xD

tawny jewel
#

oof

river stirrup
ebon birch
lucid terrace
sturdy dagger
#

?

severe folio
sturdy dagger
#

That's purge

severe folio
#

flurry nexus

severe folio
severe folio
#

new staff i call it Rifthaven Mk I Solarus Force Staff

half iron
#

skibidi plague ogryn

potent echo
#

Mk69 poopenfarten staf

tawny jewel
#

I really don't need to see that image in my head

severe folio
half iron
#

scrier’s gaze mentionedā€¼ļøšŸ’ÆšŸ’Æ

foggy breach
#

does every soulblaze source other than purg have a max stack of 16?

severe folio
#

no

#

some other source dont have a max of 16

#

perilious combustion do not have cap

#

blazing spirit on sword has a cap of 18

#

blazing spirit on staff i think dont have a cap

#

fuk wildfire

potent echo
#

Purg with creeping can hit 22 stacks

spice veldt
#

blazing spirit on staffs have a cap of 6

potent echo
#

If 2 other psykers do creeping you can hit max 31 stacks

foggy breach
foggy breach
foggy breach
potent echo
#

Fuc wildfire

half iron
#

fuk wildfire

foggy breach
#

why

severe folio
half iron
#

we said so

severe folio
# foggy breach ?

wildfire soulblaze dont add extra stack, they dont even have unique blaze cap

#

if an enemy have 4-5 soulblaze, wildfire adds nothing but also lose the stack

foggy breach
#

?

severe folio
#

okay, so heres an example

foggy breach
#

wdym lose the stack

severe folio
#

an enemy have 6 stacks of soulblaze

foggy breach
#

so wildfire just sets them to 4 soulblaze?

severe folio
#

an enemy has 6 stacks of soulblaze, he die, he transfer 4 stacks onto 1 other enemy

foggy breach
#

yes

tulip trench
#

infested -> carapace/maniac?
precog -> uncanny?

foggy breach
#

wait only one enemy? i thoguht it was all nearby enemies?

severe folio
#

it even out like that, get it ?

#

now heres the horrible part

foggy breach
#

oo

severe folio
#

imagine this

#

an enemy has 6 soulblaze, he die, he transfer 4 stacks onto an enemy that has 5 soulblaze

#

this enemy with 5 soulblaze, he ate that 4 stacks, but he doesnt become 9, he stay 5

#

that 4 stacks, gone forever

foggy breach
#

the cap is 4 then

spice veldt
fading iris
#

sounds like a bug since the descriptions implies you know... what everybody imagined would be instead of what it does.KEKW_ogryn

spice veldt
#

the cap is unmentioned, but blazing spirit on staffs has a cap of 6 stacks

severe folio
foggy breach
#

and wildfire can incflict above the cap

severe folio
#

oh

severe folio
foggy breach
#

*can't

clear heath
#

wildfire is just capped at 4 soulblaze

severe folio
#

if any enemies already has 4 stack or more, wildfire transfer into that enemy, but doesnt up the stack

foggy breach
#

good for trauma staff blazing spirit and stuff like that, less good for purg staff

sterile saffron
#

I’m starting to love the psyker class 🩶🩶

severe folio
#

in the end it doesnt increase the amount of blaze you are throwing around

#

it just even out the total amount of blaze you put on all enemies that is being burn

#

but at the cap of 4

half iron
severe folio
#

so if you are adding more than 4 on every enemies

#

wildfire practically does nothing

foggy breach
#

got it

severe folio
#

unlike Perilious Combustion

#

perilious combustion add 3 stacks of soulblaze to enemies around with every elite die around it

#

no cap

foggy breach
#

hmm

severe folio
#

so if theres a boss in the middle of 10 ragers

foggy breach
#

might be worth it with purg then

clear heath
#

wildfire is only really doing anything if there are enemies that you aren't applying on soulblaze on
so weirdly enough it's probably worse on builds that use purg

severe folio
#

that boss is receiving 30 soulblaze stacks from all the dead ragers around

#

those ragers are also receiving soulblaze from each other's death

clear heath
#

purg is applying so much and in such a wide area that an effect capped at 4 likely isn't doing anything

foggy breach
#

i'll look into working it into my crit purg build

severe folio
foggy breach
#

do i really need that much crit

severe folio
#

you actually dont

#

this is without scrier

fading iris
obtuse moth
foggy breach
severe folio
half iron
severe folio
#

and you can prob tell nexus didnt even do much during that

#

but

#

i maaay be running the crit aura

obtuse moth
#

you do run crit on the staff but thats just for faster burn application, not more stacks per se. although if you crit on the last hit apparently you will go past your staff burn cap by 1

#

so its more effective to take damage perks than crit chance perks

#

+25% more burning damage is better than 5% faster burning application

severe folio
#

yeah

obtuse moth
#

or 10% more burning damage even if you take a more general perk

severe folio
#

heres the purg

foggy breach
#

thats similar to mine

severe folio
#

yep

clear heath
#

tier 3 blessing cringe

#

press x

severe folio
#

fuk you eat grox

foggy breach
#

boop

obtuse moth
severe folio
#

the unyielding damage though

fading iris
obtuse moth
#

i would never take wildfire on a purge build unless i wanted warp siphon stacks from in fire reborn

#

wildfire is really good for warp siphon stacks

foggy breach
severe folio
#

let me show you how much warp siph i got from this build

foggy breach
#

at least it's boss damage

clear heath
#

wildfire is alright if you're just spamming creeping flames a lot too. It has long range and there's usually some enemjes to the side you've missed cause it's actually kinda narrow

tulip trench
#

wait wildfire only spread 4 stacks total?

obtuse moth
#

i like unyielding damage on purg staves personally

clear heath
#

wildfire is that weird soulblaze talent that somehow does worse the more soulblaze you have

severe folio
obtuse moth
#

it gives me more boss killing options, everything else dies quickly with purg plus can be stagger locked with lmb

severe folio
clear heath
ebon birch
severe folio
#

so you could put another perk on your purg, and still have unyielding damage

obtuse moth
lucid terrace
severe folio
ebon birch
# lucid terrace No

Then why did you say it was a trauma staff, or is there something I'm missing

obtuse moth
#

trauma can be a burn staff

fading iris
#

I just want the option to equip a gun and a staff instead of meleemuklukDennis

obtuse moth
#

you use a crit build with blazing spirit

severe folio
#

revolver with staff

ebon birch
tulip trench
#

dam that sucks for soulblaze

lucid terrace
#

I was fuckin with you

ebon birch
#

what is it actually

severe folio
#

its solarus staff

fading iris
severe folio
#

scourge staff

ebon birch
#

I'm not seeing something called that in the list

severe folio
#

im also fuking with you

ebon birch
#

You know, I'm trying to learn here

severe folio
ebon birch
#

I don't need the entire channel trolling me

severe folio
#

cant help it

#

i hate orgyn

obtuse moth
#

channel is more in-jokes and memes than teaching half the time

#

the jokes about fatshark's stance on mods are irritating misinfo

severe folio
#

thats not true we jut had a whole lecture about wildfire

#

i think i would want blazing spirit on sword to proc with special attack more than with crit

potent echo
#

I still don't know fatshark's stance on extended weapon customization

frozen jay
#

It’s sanctioned for now

#

Since it’s just your PoV

#

We’ll see if that changes

#

But iirc the creator or someone asked them awhile back

#

And they basically just said ā€œit’s fine cause it’s just your PoV and not other playersā€

#

I’d say I want them to implement it but I feel they might fuck it up lol

severe folio
#

nah theyd 100% fuk it up

potent echo
#

Makes me not want to buy their weapon cosmetics though KEKW_ogryn

tawny jewel
#

I don't want much but plz give me a bayonet on the normal kantrael lasgun

fading iris
#

Zero mods gangchadgryn

#

take all the warp, the Emperor protects me

severe folio
#

unless they change the crew loading screen

#

so everyone can see each other wepons in full splendor on their arms

#

there isnt a lot of point in weapon cosmetics

#

that other can see

potent echo
#

Main issue is that it only affects one weapon, and if fatshark nerf the weapon then welp

severe folio
#

i though it affect a whole weapon category