psyker-class

[eager mantle]

Depends on if you saw the EP Surge staff bug as critical to your gameplay

[eternal pike]

I love how we've had so many bugs with surge and smite but it keeps happening, honestly kind of amusing

[sturdy dagger]

you will spike between 400 dmg and 1k dmg without crits due 2 rng, have fun

[humble pewter]

Wasnt that like 80% of people anyway

[eager mantle]

Not I

[silk hawk]

It's random, or u can intentionally target heads by aiming above enemies?

[foggy breach]

Nope

100% random

[eternal pike]

Nonep bug surge was still strong

[silk hawk]

....

[eternal pike]

Now it's in the gutter

[cobalt granite]

Seems like now surge staff does 25% of its damage

[foggy breach]

The code is literally "pick random number between 1 and [number of body parts]

[limber tartan]

Im not gonna run missions with it i just wanna check it out in the meat grinder, the nerf does not affect me at all since i didn't use surge previously

[cobalt granite]

Have to hit like 8-10 times to kill a rager

[sturdy dagger]

nah the worst part is

[silk hawk]

If it's true.... They legit killed my favourite build

[orchid shadow]

It's been "acknowledged". Now we'll have to wait three weeks to see if they do anything about it if it was unintentional

[sturdy dagger]

full charging and hitting a simple dreg shooter and NOT killing

insane

[foggy breach]

They'll certainly fix it soon

I'm almost sure of it

[silk hawk]

I managed to do only one surge run before work... And it felt fine...

[eternal pike]

I would hope so

[humble pewter]

But then are you the 20%

[silk hawk]

Gonna be doing more research on that matter later...

[sturdy dagger]

surge had bug removed but also had its legs broken even further, assail got another nerf

[stuck bridge]

lol

[sturdy dagger]

FINE FAT SHARK

ILL PLAY OGRYN

[eternal pike]

To be fair assail is kinda nutty

I think it's a fair nerf

[limber tartan]

Oh yea surge sucks now

[cobalt granite]

Thanks. I hate having too many psykers anyway.

[sturdy dagger]

i really dont see the obsession with assail

[tawny raptor]

whats the psyker meta post patch?

[foggy breach]

Assail got a good nerf

[sturdy dagger]

play outside of tier 4

assail is just okay

[glossy ember]

[foggy breach]

It's no longer as spam able as a staff

[gloomy magnet]

i like that snacks

[brave fiber]

good riddance now it’s balanced

[desert mirage]

Its so over psyker bros

[sturdy dagger]

but that was literally its purpose 2 make up for the gap in gun psyker builds

[eager mantle]

Gun

[jolly bear]

You people are as mentally stable as psykers, I appreciate you all

[eternal pike]

I enjoy running smite over assail anyways, no brain assail spam gets me into trouble lmao

[sturdy dagger]

it just feels sad 2 use now

[limber tartan]

I don't know about this surge but now that i think about it surge was used to basically just point and click and the target exploded yes ?

[fading iris]

Yeah, the hitting random body parts is def a bug, they stealth change something on the system that ended up breaking the poor surge staff and smite

[eager mantle]

I don't see the obsession for it. Right now I just think Assail Gunpsyker is neat

[upbeat parcel]

[eternal pike]

Surge was the braindead secondary

[glossy ember]

yes but even without EP you had good brekapoints, many 2 hits and 1 hits

[tawny raptor]

what guns?

[eternal pike]

No aim just lightning

[silk hawk]

Idk i doubt i can play another psyker but surge, guess i will fully switch to zealot...

[brave fiber]

DD got fixed maybe I’ll try that now

[sturdy dagger]

so did i but it just feels grim with the cooldown dropkick especially since it takes like 4 without EP to kill a gunner

[neat pecan]

Me running smite:

[tawny raptor]

man i dont wanna fuckin level another slot to 30 😭

[eager mantle]

Revolver. Laspistol. Good torrent autogun. Pick your lead flavor

[fading iris]

Way to go on how to make a stealth change, you create a bug that yeets the stealth into the spotlight

[limber tartan]

That is why i think that fatshark didn't want a weapon that uses no ammo that just one shots everything but bosses

[eternal pike]

The zealot chorus buffs though seem good

[limber tartan]

Without requiring even to really aim

[silk hawk]

That was the point of me picking psyker above vet...

[sturdy dagger]

i would really like DD if i wasnt forced 2 take kinetic disruption and blow up cause i dared to block something

[eager mantle]

Yea. Aimed shards still feel like ass outside of snipers and bombers

[eternal pike]

They already removed the ep bug

There wasn't a reason to nerf it again

[fading iris]

The only thing I seriously worry about is that if Fatshark staff is having less time and workforce than it should and thats why we get so many bugs, more crunch and less QA time

[eager mantle]

Blow up from blocking? I've yet to have that happen

[eternal pike]

Like overall it does less compared to voidstrike

[limber tartan]

Well i played with psyker for a bit but felt like it could be more dynamic soo i slapped a gun on it

[sturdy dagger]

first time i used it i was like 40% peril, accidentally blocked crusher overhead, esploded instnatly

[eternal pike]

But that's fine since it's more briandead

[upper galleon]

You can technically blow up from pushing with 100% peril

[upper galleon]

That is just crushers

[frigid sparrow]

Did you find your answer?

[upper galleon]

You are supposed to dodge the overhead

Not block it

[sturdy dagger]

still utterly insane that its a perk im forced to take for a keystone

objectively bad game design

[silk hawk]

I mean if i would want to play pew-pew i would just go vet... I had all classes at 30 anyways...

[upper galleon]

Why

[eager mantle]

I think that's more the crusher just pushing through your block. I've blocked at 100 in a horde and it swaps to stamina use

[upper galleon]

Block peril is considered one of psykers best tools

[fading iris]

Only one way to really fix it... turn purgatus LMB into a fireball with good range, everybody will like that

[limber tartan]

Vet does not have spicy magic

[eager mantle]

But wizard with a gun is fun, therefore your argument is invalid

[upper galleon]

Only thing im gonna bummed about is they didnt give surge a little buff since it got bugfixed

[eternal pike]

The real fix is to just remove peril cost from all the staffs and just make them free to use, duh

[sturdy dagger]

well no i didnt just die i did the explosion, thanks to that i sadly finally got this stain on my account

[shadow quail]

does surge work on trauma>

[limber tartan]

The only thing cooler than a dude with a gun and a wizard is a wizard with a gun

[sturdy dagger]

instead they gave it a new bug that makes it even LESS usable

have fun

[eager mantle]

Dunno what to say. Darktide bugs and all

[fading iris]

Badge of Honor use it, love it, turn it into a armor and power

[upper galleon]

I think you wouldve went down anyways

[sturdy dagger]

prolly

but it would annoy me less

[upper galleon]

Like sure, the overhead shot your peril to blow up but

If you would be put in/already in the peril animation and would be downed or pinned, you explode instantly

[sturdy dagger]

death by failing crusher dodge is better than the embarassment of being forced 2 blow up

[eternal pike]

I think warp surge was doing just fine, I don't think it needed more damage. People were just super spoiled with the ep bug

[frigid sparrow]

We talking fixing purge? Wildfire needs to be adjusted and the node for soulblaze kills needs to be adjusted. Rocking a full crit purge build here with a focus on building soulblaze stacks. Wildfire needs to spread the stacks more and the node doesn't count kills from your staff towards it. It really only works well with creeping flames as the staff will kill the enemy faster than the stack will, resulting in less charges over-all.

[eager mantle]

Cause yea I've blocked like 3 ragers pushing to 100 peril and it then swapped to stamina blocking

[upper galleon]

No need to go crit past warp nexus imo

[frigid sparrow]

And if I could get a 5m buff on the LMB range, that'd be great thanks.

Crit = 2 stacks, I want every stack I can get in the shortest amount of time.

[upper galleon]

The 25% damage boost to an armor type is worth more than 5% chance to apply a second stack

[upper galleon]

Yes but no

Effectively it only adds less than 5% dps

The perk

[frigid sparrow]

Oh

Idk if I run the perk

[sturdy dagger]

god please sort out wildfire it would be my instant favorite talent if it was just slightly good

[frigid sparrow]

I get crit from other places

[tough onyx]

look 5% crit chance node is life

[plucky flax]

It's good don't listen to the haters.

[frigid sparrow]

It's meh at best

[eager mantle]

You don't understand the 5% crit is important to my laspistol

[frigid sparrow]

You could put a TON of stacks on a single target and lose a ton of them when it spreads

That 4 stack limit really hurts it

[upper galleon]

Wildfire shines more with flak perk

[frigid sparrow]

Needs to be like 6 or something

[brave fiber]

based

[plucky flax]

I only play blaze trauma not the really bad purga staff.

So it's good for me. :>

[brave fiber]

Wildfire scales with how much you believe in it

[fading iris]

I just want to do fireballs

[foggy breach]

Opinion on purg wrong, perspective discarded /hj

[frigid sparrow]

I really want to try out blaze trauma

[tawny raptor]

real

[frigid sparrow]

Purge just doesn't do well with soulblaze stacks, which is a really odd thing

It's a good staff tho, I fucking love it

[plucky flax]

Too real.

It's funny because blaze trauma is just better than purg in every single way.

[gleaming plover]

What does purge do well with?

[frigid sparrow]

Horde and CC

[mortal breach]

Hordes

[tough onyx]

i like when other psykers have it

[plucky flax]

Purga against melee maelstrom when 20 crushers walk down on you.

[humble pewter]

Brain Blast new meta

[frail sand]

im doing my part of highlighting the crushers

[atomic plover]

blaze trauma, aka crit with peril and crit cause blaze ?

[foggy breach]

It's an infinite ammo flamethrower, hordes stop being a problem

[humble pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/brain-blast-jimmy-neutron-jimbo-gif-26286685

[foggy breach]

The M1 also has great stagger and pushback for ragers

[mortal breach]

Power interruption is true purge meta

[plucky flax]

Blazing spirits blessing on trauma staff.

[foggy breach]

Maybe one day I'll try blaze trauma

[ember sonnet]

Did something happen to warp flurry btw?

[mortal breach]

I embody the antithesis of the blue light filter

[gleaming plover]

I understand what it's used for, I was more talking about builds. Do I just let it carry against hordes and dedicate my build to elites?

[frigid sparrow]

This is my bread and butter

[plucky flax]

The bad thing about blaze trauma is it's incredibly hard to craft a really good one.

[frigid sparrow]

And apparently I do use the crit chance perk, namely cause I haven't figured out what to pair flak with.

[tough onyx]

i just bought a force staff but i havent used it or modded it yet

[upbeat parcel]

for empowered assail, which one do I use

[mortal breach]

God roll. 80% clouds radius? Blowing fat vapes at heretics

[plucky flax]

Also trauma staff is apparently 'hard to play' so not many people like it.

[foggy breach]

Depends, how many elites do you kill?

[plucky flax]

The funny ground circle.

[sturdy dagger]

Uncanny melee

[upbeat parcel]

I run voidstrike so a fair bit

[sturdy dagger]

BB my beloved

[upbeat parcel]

but I also clear hordes pretty hard with assail

so I'm not sure

[digital narwhal]

Overpowering Souls

[foggy breach]

Damage stat actually affects the tick rate of soulblaze stacks

[digital narwhal]

Guaranteed charges when you need them is useful

[foggy breach]

So I think that one could technically be better

[upbeat parcel]

alright I'm trying the guaranteed

[frigid sparrow]

Since when? Wut

[hearty laurel]

i know this is a psyker chat, but i'm making a gun psyker loadout, and... 🗿

[woeful patio]

Yeah you can’t chain EP

[hearty laurel]

it's perfect...

[woeful patio]

Can’t member who said it’s possible but you LIED TO ME

[plucky flax]

Nein only the direct damage from left/right click.

[mortal breach]

I hate you

[foggy breach]

I think your burn stat could be higher to hit the 15 max stacks instead of 14

[humble pewter]

what mod makes the bars like that

[sturdy dagger]

Theres a burn stat right there

[honest robin]

ok melk jeez i'll use a purgatus

[sturdy dagger]

53% cloud

[honest robin]

wish the rolls were good yeah

[foggy breach]

Are you sure? Huh, I remember otherwise from when I inspected it but it might just be fatshark being bad at writing

[tough onyx]

370 tho

[plucky flax]

Yeah their description is wrong.

[humble pewter]

big

[loud ferry]

whats the build for CC and shield psyker now

[honest robin]

he sold me another flurry 4 yesterday though so i can just make a good one eventually

[plucky flax]

Only rending and power can increase soulblaze damage.

[fading iris]

Holy jesus

[hearty laurel]

"Show me real weapon stats." sry my brain wasn't braining

[humble pewter]

he had a brain burst

[fading iris]

just spam more to counter

[loud ferry]

whats the build for CC and shield psyker now

[foggy breach]

"Burning intensity" is under damage but tbh I've only been guessing what it does

[plucky flax]

Frenship ended with handcannon revolver. Now I have to learn how to play laspistol.

[tough onyx]

the build is obviously one shot everything in the game with the dueling sword until it gets nerfed

i like it

[frigid sparrow]

Well heres a question. Some enemies are both Flak and Unarmored, which bonus does the purge pick when it comes to these multi type enemies?

[foggy breach]

@frigid sparrow

[plucky flax]

Burning intensity means how often the direct damage from right click tick. Not the soulblaze damage.

[foggy breach]

I would assume it defaults to torso because it doesn't show up as orange in the psykanium

[foggy breach]

Aight that makes sense. I blame fatshark for this one

Now I wonder if my purg could be better, outside finding warp nexus

It's probably good enough

[frigid sparrow]

Yeah, I'm focused on soulblaze with the purge. I dumped damage cause I'm not really worried about the direct damage. If anything, the staff kills things too quick for the soulblaze to do its thing. It runs too fast lol. I end up taking the SC on kill instead of SC on soulblaze because of it

[fluid knot]

It was unironically really useful when Wrack an Ruin was a thing

But yeah. They gutted that an i will never forgive them

[frigid sparrow]

I wonder if maybe flak + unarmored would be really good combo

[tawny raptor]

holy sweet mother of crhist

nutty

[olive ember]

You should still take the soulblaze

Unless they changed how it worked the ability only checks for if the enemy died had soulblaze, not whether or not the soulblaze killed it

[glossy ember]

[silk hawk]

The odds are that hadron gonna brick it are 99,9%

[glossy ember]

to be fair the blessing and perk here are serviceable even if I get utter trash

it's better than sprint efficiency

or something

[frail sand]

nice try hadron

[glossy ember]

seeing my bald psyker on the char select screen kills me

[near wyvern]

surge is not that bad

you tend to 1-2 shot human sized enemies when you build it right, +unarmoured + flak is a must

and you want perfect timing & full battery with inner tranq

[tiny swallow]

"Fixed issue where the Nomanus Mk VI Surge Force Staff received the 'Smite' Bonuses from 'Empowered Psionics'."
i cry

[strong gulch]

Agreed. I just a did a map and that was my thought.

[strong gulch]

Not just EP. the +1 doesn't apply now too.

[near wyvern]

They also removed the internal cooldown from Perfect timing and made it once per "crit" attack. So LMB quell cancel stacks that baby up in no time on surge.

[olive ember]

Surge also takes 6 charges to kill a single crusher

[near wyvern]

unfortunately yes

[desert mirage]

yea surge doesnt one shot much anymore but its still ok

[near wyvern]

maulers and ogryn sized enemies take many hits

[olive ember]

It is pretty bad considering human size enemies get one shot by like every other thing

[near wyvern]

but human sized are all 1-2 hit to kill except mauler

and trash doesn't even need a full charge

[chilly moon]

THEY DON TOOK MY PSYKERS HAIR

Cant have shit on Atoma

[olive ember]

1-2 hit except it only damages one or two enemies at a time while void and trauma deletes packs of them at a time and purge just melts anything in cone short of ogryns and mutants

[tiny swallow]

get shaved dweeb

[desert mirage]

yea Ill have to go back to void strike or whatever

[near wyvern]

I mean sure, buffs are needed, but it's not unplayable

either more targets to hit or make it just a 50/50 between body and head

[olive ember]

Well unplayable is such a low bar that literally any weapon in the game passes

[strong gulch]

Back to original no hair release.

[scenic dawn]

Any advice on the warp battery penance? I'm stuck on 202 out of 300 and can't get anymore.

[near wyvern]

play warp battery at carnival with psychic vampire and never ult

on a high difficulty mission

[scenic dawn]

Carnival?

[olive ember]

Newest mission

It’s basically got enemies non stop

[near wyvern]

surge also interrupts mutants on weakspot rolls

[scenic dawn]

Can't see Carnival in the mission terminal

Am I looking in the right place?

[coarse bane]

Hmm, what blessings really work on void staff?

[near wyvern]

@scenic dawn this is the mission name #psyker-class message

[near wyvern]

nexus + flurry and nexux + surge

[glossy ember]

wasn't that already the case? i remember beign able to prestack PT by shooting empty

oh, internal cd

[near wyvern]

yup

it used to have a 1 second internal cd

[glossy ember]

didn't even know it had one

[harsh urchin]

I would actually recommend taking the horde one now since they fixed HC bug

[glossy ember]

damn

[near wyvern]

doesn't have that anymore

[glossy ember]

thank god

[coarse bane]

Ok, I have one of those

[glossy ember]

that's great news

[near wyvern]

can only proc once per crit rolll so for example with purgatus you only get one stack per one crit train but on lmb qc spam you can get back to back no matter how fast you qc

[harsh urchin]

assail does like half damage against flak heads now on crit

from 600-700 to 300ish

sheesh

[near wyvern]

you my friend imagine numbers from your ass

[scenic dawn]

@near wyvern Ooooh right thanks. I would have totaly missed that.

[near wyvern]

this is patch # 14 assail damage values

[harsh urchin]

hand cannon

got fixed

[near wyvern]

use uncanny melee then and carry on

darts in air, switch to melee, bang a couple, maybe get some malefic momentum going on and repeat

[fading iris]

I was expecting a second picture with the patch 15 table after

[harsh urchin]

sure, but my numbers are correct then

[near wyvern]

mate, I am doing this on my free time, will not loose my sleep over Atheneum

[harsh urchin]

so kindly stop talking out of your own ass

[near wyvern]

but lemme quickly check and I am pretty sure damage values are not changed

[fading iris]

Let me joke in peace!

don't worry about it

[near wyvern]

raging over a bug fix

[harsh urchin]

i think the bug fix is good

but this quote is kinda cunty

[fluid aspen]

Got a nice Voidstrike in the armory

[near wyvern]

the assail numbers still hold

[olive ember]

SMH but but our guide has to be as good as the ogryn guide

Think about how much internet points you could get

[fading iris]

I just run with my dueling sword and poke the hell of it

[desert mirage]

what does it mean by 2 shots?

like 2 more come out?

[frank chasm]

Double explosion

[desert mirage]

ohh

that makes sense

[frank chasm]

so you’ll do 2 x the damage * the crit modifier

It feels much nicer this patch too

[near wyvern]

they already updated for patch # 15?

[desert mirage]

new map is really pretty also

i wish we had an explore mode with dev commentary

[near wyvern]

our guide existed before ogrynomicon, so there is some internet points right there

[frank chasm]

idk why but it feels like surge works better now with the charged shot

[desert mirage]

cause i want to look at everything

[olive ember]

Uh I’m not sure cuz they have multiple people and some of em are playtesters

[near wyvern]

cause it can hit heads now but it also can hit a leg fucking you over

[fluid aspen]

Firest 2 projectiles instead of just 1

[near wyvern]

I call that unfair advantage

[frank chasm]

Just aim better

[olive ember]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3044646170

Rn still patch 14 it seems

Not that much changed for ogryn iirc

[frank chasm]

Also @near wyvern I meant the surge blessing not staff

[near wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-break-free-fail-freedom-gif-8241025

ahh right

[fluid aspen]

Is there a Tier 4 Warp Nexus?

[olive ember]

Yes

[frank chasm]

yeah

Up to 20%

[fluid aspen]

Have never seen one yet

[near wyvern]

see, ogrynomicon still at patch #14 just like Atheneum

altho

I have already updated a couple things for P15

[frank chasm]

I’ve got it in my hadron but I don’t put it on my staffs if I get 3

[near wyvern]

when do we tell this sibling they need to get it separately for all staves

[fading iris]

Just make the classes not locked, so we create a Ogryn psyker that talks with a smooth posh british voice

[fluid aspen]

Nevermind, I'm dum

[fluid aspen]

Don't care, only use Voidstrike

[harsh urchin]

all the overpowered bug abuse shit got fixed

now psyker only has voidstrike

😔

[olive ember]

Psyker is trash now

I can’t believe it

[hollow current]

[clear heath]

oh we lost the +1 chain too

[upbeat parcel]

it's so over...

[fading iris]

Cadia Stands!

[near wyvern]

@harsh urchin there's your 1k now get yer ass over here and apologize for false information, your 600-700 is completely bogus
https://streamable.com/1pm724

[uneven compass]

Siblings, as the day has gone on I've become more and more sad about our beloved surge staff

[fading iris]

Hold the line, we will have a comeback!

[near wyvern]

still alive, you just gotta build it right #psyker-class message

[dusk rose]

what are the psyker class melee weapons

[near wyvern]

force swords and duelling swords

[dusk rose]

only?

[near wyvern]

no but specific

[echo frigate]

Then all of the shared melee weapons

Knife, axes, chainsword, etc

Demon claw

[near wyvern]

we have the general:

• combat axes
• tactical axes (bad atm)
• combat blade
• chainsword
• devil's claw

but our weapons tend to be similar or better to general weapons in many aspects

the specific ones that is

force swords & duelling swords

[uneven compass]

I'll try this out soon ty! What blessings? Mine has the faster cast and +crit chance one

[near wyvern]

duelling swords are essentially just better tactical axes in all the possible ways

[dusk rose]

what blessings u want on the blade?

[upbeat parcel]

dueling swords are too good to use anything else imo

[frank chasm]

yeah the force swords are some of the best weapons pound for pound. The special does massive damage through armour, and they have high base attack values with a great push clear

[near wyvern]

force swords are more versatile devil's claw (Illisi) or a high single target burst damage with long reach (Deimos) and the third one (Obscurus) should be forgotten

[charred edge]

reflector blessing my beloved

[harsh urchin]

alright i apologize

now let me cry in peace

for psyker

[desert mirage]

I force sword is so usefull against big fellas

but the dueling sword fucks so hard too

[harsh urchin]

now that psyker is dogshit

and we all swap to ogryn

[echo frigate]

It's called the obscurus for a reason

[uneven compass]

Deimos is awesome, just a few swings when you find yourself surrounded and you'll have cut down enough poxwalkers to get back to your staff

[dusk rose]

what do i reroll

[fading iris]

I'm not asking too much, I just want a Tyberos Special (Lightning claw, power fist, dougle chainsaw sword combo)

[olive ember]

Pls stop saying surge staff is alive

[near wyvern]

@Alexis

I used this build, you can also swap smite for assails if you want but smite brings some safety net for crusher packs, since currently the body part roulette makes a crusher take a really long time to get killed by Surge staff (because they have more limb parts to hit than other characters)

it is absolutely essential to have +unarmoured and +flak for perks and then warp nexus as a blessing, the fourth blessing if you can choose would be warp flurry but those three are much much more important to have

for melee weapon you want to roll with a horde clear one so either Illisi or Devil's Claw 4.

[olive ember]

I don’t want to see useless surge staff psykers in my game anymore

Smiting 3 poxwalkers at a time

[near wyvern]

that's why true champs bring a horde clear melee

[olive ember]

They die even with illisi

[near wyvern]

the poxies or the surge users

[frank chasm]

Okay hear me out

Force Halberd

[olive ember]

The surge users

Bro the amount of fucking times the smite/surge user blows themself up charging the illisi

[woeful patio]

Dude I just used Surge Staff in Damnation

I'm suicidal

what have they done to my BOY

[olive ember]

Had a game today where the fucking guy blew himself up 3 times, died, got revived, blew up another 3 times, died, got revived and then went down to 3 bruisers

[near wyvern]

it hits random body parts now, leg is just a flesh wound!

[uneven compass]

Awesome ty! What talent is this?

[woeful patio]

THE ENEMIES DONT EVEN EXPLODE ANYMORE

[olive ember]

Malefic momentum?

[woeful patio]

THEY JUST FALL OVER LIMP

[fading iris]

hes using the warp grenade build

[olive ember]

Best part is that they have 4 limbs and only 1 body

So 20% chance to hit the body and 80% chance to deal half damage

[near wyvern]

malefic momentum, +4% warp damage on non-warp based kills, stacks up to +20% damage, whenever you melee and see that "oh shit gunner" or "oh shit flamer" you usually have True Aim stacked up and this one so that's just an insta gib on your next surge after the melee spree

and if you use illisi it stacks up really well on that special

so you can melee and then throw in a special for heavy damage

cause it is also a warp attack and get's that +20%

[woeful patio]

023

[echo frigate]

Oh that's whyyyyyyy

I see now

[frank chasm]

Why does the electricity have a limb damage modifier smdh

Remove the headshot modifier and limb modifier and make it a single damage weapon that might crit

EZ

[near wyvern]

every respectable Illisi special spam user will have Malefic Momentum, if not they might as well surge themselves to the chest. Or body. Or head. Who knows where it lands now.

[desert mirage]

lightening after all is conductive, so it would hit the whole body regardless

[fading iris]

Thats probably a bug, because wasn't put in the patch notes

[olive ember]

Can surge even hit the head?

[sinful peak]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a9ce978-7a16-4f53-8ca1-ae87acfca156/ds-2
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a9d2d3e-9be7-4f3c-bff2-befe61424600/ds2

which one do you guys think is better, warp rider is nice but I dunno if it's worth over surge block and true aim

[near wyvern]

if you really want to go this route scabs and crushers would take no damage because they are essentially wearing a Faraday's cage

[rigid rune]

nurgle puts rubber in your skin

[fading iris]

some stuff indicates a possible stealth change to body parts system that went bad

[fluid aspen]

Seers Presence > Prescience

[echo frigate]

Question

Did they fuck up smite fixing surge staff?

[desert mirage]

its touching their skin though, so it wouldnt protect them

[near wyvern]

you take mind in motion over Malefic Momentum without crossing over to Creeping Flames and using Illisi. Shame on you sibling, shame on you.

[sinful peak]

I love bubble too much

[near wyvern]

https://youtu.be/QqEesFaboV4?si=cI2VvrXK4CwK7zhy

[sinful peak]

and also mind in motion is just fantasic qol, can't go back

[near wyvern]

@sinful peak pls read a couple lines from here#psyker-class message
And then learn to sprint during channeling and dodge during quelling and you just free'd up a talent point to beef up that Illisi Special by +20%.

[fading iris]

And don't forget to have 3 curios like this to make @near wyvern spin on his chair

[plush basalt]

RIP surge staff, back to being useless

[near wyvern]

not useless

[sinful peak]

aight let's say I take momentum what about the main question, warp rider vs surge block and true aim

[near wyvern]

I played a game with it, just requires careful building #psyker-class message

[lethal delta]

It only hits like 1-2 enemies, or at least it feels like that now

I haven't used it in almost a year until last night and I was playing without the bug, felt like crap

To be fair using the voidstrike with quell on weakspot hit just feels so good. Clears waves and still has enough stagger to stunlock most enemies

[plush basalt]

the bug that made it playable is gone so back into the trash heap

[lethal delta]

They fixed the bug where the lightning blitz modifiers affected the surge staff

[rose dagger]

Didnt they make changes to the staff itself as well

[near wyvern]

@sinful peak

you don't want battle mediataion with warp nexus & surge, you want to control, get a pace and stay high at peril, even more so with warp rider

assail is not needed with void

[rose dagger]

Honestly didn't like the auto aim aspect of surge

[near wyvern]

you have tons of overlap there

if you want to go in with melee more often you switch quietitude for soulstealer

you will anyways have the dome for "oh shit" regen

and in case you want to invest more in toughness regen for yourself then you gotta ditch the dome

which would mean you get to keep your warp charges

[rose dagger]

But does surge do more now than it did before (ignoring exploit) if you headshot with it? Or is it just limbs and torso it can hit lol

[near wyvern]

if you headshot? yes, if you hit a leg? well, a crit on leg does less than a normal hit on a body...

[harsh urchin]

it's like gambling

you have a 10% chance to win and 80% chance to lose

ez

the house always wins

[sinful peak]

I've never vibed with surge but I will try, it's true that assail and void have pretty similar roles\

[rose dagger]

[near wyvern]

most enemies have arms, body and head to hit, crushers unfortunately have two legs in there as well, so you are fighting against odds with that guy

[azure bridge]

coming to the party a little late but what is that build designed to support?

[rose dagger]

Sounds like it could've been a neat change if it was more responsive to aiming for the head

[fading iris]

[rose dagger]

Shame

[fading iris]

maybe that was the plan

[near wyvern]

gonna try smite revolver psyker in auric damantion, wish me luck siblings

[lethal delta]

I play mostly BB and voidstrike for picking off specials/elites and horde clear respectively

[fading iris]

Revolver will carry you like the God Emperor himself

[orchid nest]

someone probably completely forgot it would mess over the damage and just added it for the different gibbing

[azure bridge]

Sorry for interupting but that build you posted what staves are good with it?

[near wyvern]

a sibling wanted some advice on their void build

[azure bridge]

it works with void staff? You have made my day

[near wyvern]

if you want some build advice you can take a look at Atheneum @azure bridge , it's not yet updated for patch # 15 but the builds there still work and provide you a nice baseline to tune your own

[azure bridge]

I'll take a peak at them then

[fading iris]

everything works with void I think, I could be wrong, don't quote me on that

[near wyvern]

most of the stuff yes, you only really need Perfect Timing and True Aim, if you have flurry then Battle Meditation is a nice addition, the rest is a bit how you want

[burnt mulch]

i tried the destiny keystone, it was fun

beign able to see enemy through walls makes me happy :3

[fading iris]

sounds about right

For maximum funny I hope the cash shop get some surge staff skins this week I know you can use all skins in all of them, but one that the design is clearly for lightning strikes

[autumn grail]

I have wondered what happens if 2 psykers take disrupt destiny

[fading iris]

They cancel eachother and create a third Universe

and both die in a gruesome explosion because this is Warhammer 40k after all

[static needle]

Any of these blessings worth keeping?

[frank chasm]

Shred if you don’t have shred 4

[static needle]

worth it?

[static needle]

not all or nothing?

[ornate hamlet]

dont use staves use guns

[static needle]

dont be cringe

[ornate hamlet]

y

[static needle]

lol jk play what u want

[ornate hamlet]

hmm

[idle aurora]

Never used a staff with res below 65, so idk how fast it will build up

[frank chasm]

you could but it’s not really that useful I’ve found- I’m not an expert on the axe blessings though

[lethal delta]

Axe is an interesting choice on psyker

It just feels so vanilla for a class that is anything but

[coarse bane]

Hmm

Not sure what I think of this patch yet. Seems like they took 2 steps forward and 4 steps back.

[lethal delta]

How so on the steps back, vet excluded

[coarse bane]

Vet for sure was an odd move. The nerfs may need some more tweaking. The surge staff bug fix is fine, but now Empowered Psionics feels completely pointless.
Haven't touched my Zealot yet or Ogryn. But yeah, the Veteran tree is a mess now.

[lethal delta]

I just feel like the surge staff bug fix should have come with a buff to the staff to make it not feel like they are taking something away from the players

I play voidstrike pretty religiously but wanted to try out the surge staff without the bug and it just feels bad

[coarse bane]

Yeah, that would of been acceptable. Void staff charged shots are now the go to for blasting things.

But Veteran Plasma seems to just over shadow everything.

[lethal delta]

Weak damage, low number of enemies hit....

[coarse bane]

Yeah, I made this today knowing the surge staff was gimped.

[lethal delta]

I can spam voidstaff with the quell on weakspot hit almost infinitely.
I took almost a year break and am working on the save myself via venting shriek penance. I literally have to aim at feet to build enough peril

[coarse bane]

That's not a bad idea, considering you can hit multiple weak points with one blast.

[lethal delta]

Get a horde to funnel and it rips through them

[coarse bane]

I'm just annoyed that now Empowered Psionics feels completely lack luster.

[primal plume]

Another patch
Another Surge staff bug

[fading iris]

I like that I was "man, I hope that they don't do a random not needed nerf on surge staff when they fix the bugs" boy I was wrong, they managed to do worse than I was expecting I can still play surge with my playstyle but maaaaaan if Fatshark doesn't fix the unintended changes (since wasn't on the patch notes)

[spice oar]

hey guys is the cooldown reduction with warp charges applying to gaze yet?

[coarse bane]

Switch over the Warp Siphon

[lethal delta]

Unintended changes?

[coarse bane]

It can still melt things fast, but no where near the bug.

[fading iris]

the body part thing wasn't planned

[fading iris]

I don`t need to change anything, I wasn't using the bug, so what changed for me is that the staff smite can't be a opener to be effective anymore, I need to get some buffs first, I will survive, now just need to be a little more mindfull

[coarse bane]

Or get six stacks of Warp siphon and melt things.

[spice oar]

do those affect scriers gaze yet?

[fading iris]

that was already part of my build

like I said... I wasn't playing with the bug

now I need to shoot one more time unbuffed or still the same as before buffed

[coarse bane]

That I have not tested yet.

[fading iris]

I will have problems if my ogryn brain turns off

[coarse bane]

Just throw rock!

[soft hinge]

What do you guys think of my new sword?

[lethal delta]

I love rock just for the way it sends muties flying

[soft hinge]

What should I refine and stuff?

[lethal delta]

Are you set on the mkIII?

Also that dumped damage is pretty rough

[primal plume]

EP just sucks ass

125% damage for smite doesnt make up for the extremely high peril cost

[soft hinge]

Yeah but 361 is the highest I got

[surreal eagle]

Dodge blessing are nice. But Mk II isn't good compared to the other 2 options

[strong gulch]

How did it go?

[soft hinge]

idk which swords is best

[gloomy magnet]

imagine, all siblings abandon staffs

[lethal delta]

I know it is "meta" but the MkVI just has such a great attack pattern

[azure bridge]

so do we know yet if this change to smite and surge is intended?

the one where it can hit head shots?

[surreal eagle]

Illis for cleave/ hoard clear. Dominos for ST however you spell those names

[fading iris]

yeah, it isn't in the patch notes

[keen slate]

wtf did they do with psyker

i feel so weak now

[plush basalt]

went from glass cannon to glass rifle

[azure bridge]

void strike staff seems to have trouble htiting head shots vs maulers now...

[near wyvern]

actually not that bad

[gloomy magnet]

fatshark just doesnt like to see all siblings spam assails

🥴

[keen slate]

my surge staff deals like no damage

[surreal eagle]

Pretty frail, but I think your safest bet is to use stagger builds with shriek

[near wyvern]

you need +unarmoured +flak, warp nexus and then 6 stack warp battery with Perfect Timing for it to work, but the RNG limb targetting still hurts versus crushers

[keen slate]

time for pyromancy psyker?

[strong gulch]

Oh ho ho ho!!

[full bane]

They fixed surge staff getting boosted by empowered psionics

[charred edge]

necromancy psyker

[keen slate]

but it was good?

[lethal delta]

To be fair, surge felt weak without the bug before the patch

[keen slate]

it so shit without this bug wtf

bring it back

[fading iris]

Psyker had 4 changes: Assail 1s more to get shards, EP bug for surge staff fixed, the always 10% damage buff from Warp Rider fixed. What isn't in the patch notes: The body part gatcha game.

[orchid nest]

adding the system for the random hits to body parts was definitely intended, most likely for the flavor of it gibbing different body parts. they probably just forgot the limb hits would do less damage

[azure bridge]

suggestion for a good aura? I'm looking at cooldown reduction and crit chance

[lethal delta]

I'm glad they fixed the bug because it was seriously no fun to play with someone using it, but the staff itself needs a buff

[plush basalt]

the bug made it useable, it was not op at all lmao

the amount of people crying over it is crazy when it was good, but not some op thing

[coarse bane]

It seems to be really strong combo, but good luck getting to 30 stacks of gaze while in a match.

[near wyvern]

and they removed inner cooldown from Perfect Timing but it can only trigger once within "crit window"

[primal plume]

You fucking what

[burnt mulch]

hmm... is Smite the way to go these days? o-o

[primal plume]

Use warpstacks

[burnt mulch]

what's warpstacks?

[fading iris]

Is that in the patch notes too or is another thing left out?

[snow coral]

I've been running smite with warpstacks and really enjoy the CC it provides

[spice oar]

I can get to high 20s while using the fixed DD now due to the peril reduction it gives, either with the graia infantry autogun or voidstrike, need to try Las pistol and surge with it tho (surge is shit rn tho so Idk if I will)

[spice oar]

Ep Smite all the way

[coarse bane]

It's got some insane interaction with Warpfire though.

[keen slate]

Vets allowed to oneshot anything they want with revolver, plasma and melt enemies with their autoguns

But psyker's can't have shit

[coarse bane]

Just watched a 27 stack warpfire jump to the ragers and nuked them down.

[spice veldt]

we just need a precision force staff

[keen slate]

we had surge staff

[spice veldt]

precision

[gilded viper]

Bolt staff when?

[spice veldt]

shouldn't get proper good damage without putting some mild of effort into it

psyker just has too few force staffs and three of the existing ones have some fair overlap

in other words, gib more staffs

[coarse bane]

It would be nice if you could have gaze ready to go as soon as you finish the first though, if you can hold it and kill enough.

[snow coral]

I like the warp stacks for buffing my other attacks

[burnt mulch]

are these talents any good? i use a voidstrike staff atm but i've also got a semi-decent revolver stashed away

[lethal delta]

Literally just copy some of the VT2 staves

[fading iris]

I just want a staff where the LMB spawn a Ogryn that goes flying into the enemy

[hollow forge]

whats a good psyker build post nerf

[spice oar]

Had a build that used purg, might be the way to go

[fading iris]

any build that wasn't using the EP bug

[spice oar]

Like 2 things were nerfed bro it ain't the end of the world

[coarse bane]

No, you wouldn't be able to kill fast enough with Purg to feed gaze.

[spice oar]

Watch me gang

[spice oar]

PLEASE I NEEED MORE FORCE WEAPONS

[long wharf]

well siblings?

anything unexpectedly broken for us?

[keen slate]

gunpsyker time?

[long wharf]

with the Assail change, I'm thinking the only way to use it as a primary weapon is with EP now

[royal ibex]

join us sibling. hit this warp dust and show off your second ammendment rights

[keen slate]

tf is second ammendment

[snow coral]

revolver psyker has been a thing for a bit

[long wharf]

there is no 2nd amendment in the grimdark future

[royal ibex]

https://fxtwitter.com/WizardryPosting/status/1724032030436999380

[fading iris]

gun psykers get their power by consuming warp crayons

[keen slate]

Sorry, but I'm Russian, we're more about bombs

[static needle]

Should i change this perk?

[ashen trellis]

does anyone know a viable build that allows for Power Up penance to be completed

[eager mantle]

They are delicious. More for me

[keen slate]

So i'll have to move to ogryn chat

[coarse bane]

Yeah, it just doesn't burn fast enough on the Purg staff. Just the massive stacks of warpfire.

[royal ibex]

oh so you're constantly going for the perils explosion kills got it

[warm spear]

Psyker makes a surprisingly good tank

[fresh reef]

@spice veldt you got your wish for a more mechanically demanding staff
surge can headshot now :^)

[spice veldt]

i will stab you

[eager mantle]

I throw out shards. I'm out of shards? Take out gun. Out of shards and enemy near? I bring out non magic dueling sword

[fresh reef]

:^)))))))))))))

[royal ibex]

im going to defeat these heretics with the powers of the warp and this gun i found

[eager mantle]

We cast lead

[fading iris]

for one second I thought you were preparing to blast the "roof light"

[olive ember]

Surge copers talking about it one shotting crushers now

[long wharf]

that it randomly picks a body part is atrocious

[royal ibex]

psyekrs cant wield shotguns yet can they

[eager mantle]

Nope and they should give me them

[long wharf]

yet any more

[fresh reef]

it's not random, technically

[long wharf]

no?

[fresh reef]

it's whatever body part is "closest"

[eager mantle]

Give me the bolter. I'm sure my frail body can handle it

[long wharf]

interesting, I'll need to play with that later

[fresh reef]

so effectively random and you're more likely than not to hit a hand

[long wharf]

have weekly shit to finish with my Ogryn first

[fresh reef]

can we just rework Surge into bolt staff please thanks

[eager mantle]

Give psyker a halberd

[long wharf]

make surge staff an instant hit lightning bolt

[royal ibex]

man i just wanna cast buckshot

[long wharf]

in the first open beta, psyker had shotguns

[eager mantle]

Also make that shotgun slug only

[keen slate]

no that'sdifferent country

[royal ibex]

i only played the first beta for an hour or 2 since i misread the times it was around for, and even then was on ogryn

[long wharf]

oh hey, music on the mourningstar is different

[lethal delta]

Just stick to the left side. Maybe take the bubble to give you cover to burst brains from. It is not hard to get max stacks on higher difficulties

[royal ibex]

that hud was ugly

[olive ember]

It was stolen from us we had it back in the closed beta

[royal ibex]

oh fuck you right

[fading iris]

You know what?! As psyker staff I'll use my massive D +++ this message was cleansed but the Inquisition +++

[fresh reef]

I think it's either cycling through two songs (new and og) or it's playing part of the og track we've never heard before

[long wharf]

I've listened to the soundtrack so much, I know for a fact it's not a part of the original song

[fresh reef]

sorta strange that it plays both then, no?

[long wharf]

picking randomly between tracks isn't a complex code operation

[burnt mulch]

yes PLEASE

or maybe a greatsword 🥺

[long wharf]

here you go

https://streamable.com/mqhrbj

[warm spear]

Psyker karate

[fresh reef]

no, but it just seems odd to me

[burnt mulch]

i dont know

[dark stag]

I should I bother learning dome or just try to master the wall?

[lethal delta]

I'm still waiting for my 2hand force sword

[fading iris]

I mean.... I would like that

[keen slate]

There's 2 handed power sword in the files

[burnt mulch]

i am just a very small baby space wizard

👀

i need it

[royal ibex]

'try to launch game, steam is offline atm for maintenance, so no game for me' pain

[keen slate]

I think we'll get it in part 2

[plush basalt]

do purgatus builds have to use bb and shriek? i really hate both

[fading iris]

sometimes I use the special attack of the staff just for funsies

[lethal delta]

I'm really hoping for new weapons in part 2. Not expecting but hoping

[wheat quartz]

is true aim enough to make surge/transfer voidstrike worth it?

[keen slate]

This is what I use for purgatus

[keen slate]

Surge is no longer worth it at all

[harsh urchin]

voidstrike has always been good

[keen slate]

they gutted my baby like a lamb

[harsh urchin]

it's still super disgusting

[wheat quartz]

nah I mean

[harsh urchin]

i dont think transfer is worth

[wheat quartz]

is it worth using true aim to get a sufficient proc rate on surge such that I can still have transfer peril

[lethal delta]

I have been running quell on weakspot void and can clear whole hordes without manually quelling

[harsh urchin]

not really because it'll only work on hordes

and you're bringing surge for single target dps

if you want a more horde oriented staff, just bring flurry+transfer

[rare gorge]

ive been using this

[harsh urchin]

instead of surge+nexus

[rare gorge]

dont know how i feel about voidstrike

[keen slate]

I can't really say that surge was a horde clearer

[rare gorge]

i enjoy the flamer staff more

[harsh urchin]

voidstrike is gonna suck unless you hit headshots

[keen slate]

it had like 2-3 target chain but that's it

Also wtf happend with smite it barely deals damage even with EP

[harsh urchin]

if you can't headshot just use the other ones

[wheat quartz]

surge as in the badly named "fire 2 shots on crit" voidstrike blessing, not the staff

[fading iris]

[lethal delta]

It really doesn't suck that much on body shots, it has enough stagger to at least give you room

[eternal pike]

Need to make a voidstrike to play the game but I'm out of plasteel smh

[gilded viper]

Purgatus is fun, and am excited to play a pyromancer as my first character in Rogue Trader

[charred edge]

not even a plasteel emote in here either, we really are struggling

[gilded viper]

Trauma is also fun

I got a plasteel pic

[eager mantle]

10k diamantine...<1k plasteel

[gloomy magnet]

morrol kruber

[eternal pike]

You basically never use diamantine

[charred edge]

its so bad lol

[eager mantle]

There needs to be a base material reward on missions

[keen slate]

I just don't know what to use on psyker, voidstrike is boring af

[eager mantle]

Gun

[gloomy magnet]

use gun

[harsh urchin]

play ogryn is my suggestion

both of the overpowered bug abuse builds got nerfed

[charred edge]

i just use revolver on psyker now tbh

[gloomy magnet]

siblings' staffs are boring now

[harsh urchin]

so there's only voidstrike left

[keen slate]

I have 3 other characters with guns why would I want to use it on a fucking space wizard

[eager mantle]

Revolver and Las pistol so good

[static needle]

Should I pick carapace or flak dmg?

[charred edge]

the laspistola rpm buff made it feel so good to use

[gilded viper]

I enjoy purge and trauma.

[charred edge]

didnt take it off for a week

[eager mantle]

Because the wizard is the only one with scriers gaze!

[static needle]

HERESY ALERT

[harsh urchin]

crit->flak is probably the play

[gilded viper]

We do need some more different staves tho

[digital narwhal]

^

[keen slate]

yea, i think that trauma might be the thing

[static needle]

why not carapace?

[gilded viper]

Purge is basically the only standout

[harsh urchin]

you can do carapace

[idle aurora]

blaze one is very pog

[harsh urchin]

but it'll only help against mauler heads and crushers

[digital narwhal]

True Aim, Prescience, and the +5% Crit Chance node with Warp Nexus should give all the crits you need

[eager mantle]

New staff. Special attack is a warp based stab like spear

Wizard with a bayonet

[spice oar]

Yeah, only trauma I find fun now since surge is bugged again and void just dosent feel good to me

I NEED NEW STAFFS

[wheat quartz]

blazing trauma still works nicely

[gilded viper]

Surge is bugged again?!

[wheat quartz]

it can now hit limbs, which is really annoying

[spice oar]

Purg is fun aswell but HELP FATSHARK PLEASE

[harsh urchin]

other option is to keep the crit and swap maniac

[gloomy magnet]

*steal some from sienna

[harsh urchin]

up to you what you want

[static needle]

dude thats what im doin

[wheat quartz]

hmm actually what do you guys think, blazing trauma or purgatus?

[static needle]

love my crit

[wanton sandal]

damn, surge feels like a slot machine now

you either do really good damage or do a third of what you could've done

[eternal pike]

No point in running surge until they patch it

[static needle]

but like.... what flak enemies wont i kill with one crit charge hit with voidstrike using surge blessing??

[gloomy magnet]

i still dont get why guide said voidstrike is all in one

[wanton sandal]

sad bc surge was really fun

[idle aurora]

blaze t, aside from boss damage it does everything that purga does, but better, imo

[fading iris]

I`ll stay on surge staff, I don't hug the Deamonhost which already makes me better than 99.8% of the community

[wheat quartz]

yeah, and I can just bring a dueling sword for boss damage

guess I'll do blazing trauma + smite + dome

[static needle]

What parts of a mauler are flak armored?

[harsh urchin]

everything but the head

[gloomy magnet]

no staff can deal decent boss damage >.>

[wanton sandal]

anything but head

[harsh urchin]

but you should really be hitting the head

[wanton sandal]

also does anyone have crit rates for trauma?

[harsh urchin]

with a VS

[static needle]

im running flak then

and going for body shots

[fading iris]

you need old spice for body block!

https://tenor.com/view/terry-crews-power-shout-old-spice-pecs-gif-8856772

[static needle]

tf

[sinful peak]

isn't there a bug where aiming for the head with voidstike still counts as flak armor

[fading iris]

how many bugs on psyker do we have?

This is too much in line with the lore

[eager mantle]

This magic sounds like it giving you all a headache. Join the gunpsyker gang

[faint oriole]

can someone pm a good truama staff build

[keen slate]

God damn it, my purgatus now looks like a bloody krieg phallus and I can't fix it

[harsh urchin]

do you want easy to play build, or sweaty and hard to play build (but stronger)

[fading iris]

interesting choice for skin

[faint oriole]

sweaty af

[fading iris]

Surge bug psyker trying to find a new build

[harsh urchin]

use the search bar at the top right to search for "fire trauma"

[long wharf]

you did that on purpose, though

[faint oriole]

love u

[keen slate]

I wanted to see wtf "Ogryn krieg shovel" is

[long wharf]

and now you know

I should re-enable mods

[clear heath]

so uh, what the fuck happened to surge staff?
I don't mean the EP fix either. The damage feels off

It's sometimes weakspot hitting too?

[obsidian urchin]

Who doesn't want a phallus shaped object that spews white stuff

[long wharf]

it's hitting body parts now

[fading iris]

oh, thats the body of the krieg ogryn shovel, that makes sense

[clear heath]

wtf

[long wharf]

making it unreliable

[keen slate]

I haven't played this game for a week and I no longer remember why there's like 10 knives laying in my inventory

[fading iris]

you could ust look at the cash shop because there is one there, tho

[coarse bane]

Ok, they either need to buff void or surge to be equal with Plasma/bolter.

[long wharf]

I like the new Mourningstar music track

I wonder if they updated the soundtrack?

[keen slate]

They should just revert Surge fix

[fading iris]

Plasma Staff when

[long wharf]

we already have it - voidstrike staff

[keen slate]

it wasn't that bad

[long wharf]

only void has infinite cleave

[hollow jolt]

Voidstrike is shit, recon is good

UwU

[keen slate]

tf is recon staff

[clear heath]

yeah i'm seeing surge staff constantly hit other armor types when hitting a reaper lmao

[coarse bane]

https://tenor.com/view/shrug-gif-25269231

[clear heath]

this is so cursed

[long wharf]

please report to the nearest Commissar to have your psyker and life card revoked immediately

[hollow jolt]

a stick with a duct taped recon lasgun lmao

[long wharf]

yeah it is

but Vets were nerfed even harder

[keen slate]

Go to your #veteran-class chat

[hollow jolt]

no they're busy shitting themselves that they can't 1 shot Nurgle

[analog agate]

Surge is god awful. Even with Pygex’s suggested build. You know what no one wants? High variation in dmg with no ability to control it

[long wharf]

and some people on Reddit are reporting that gunners are back to pre-13 damage levels in damnation

[hollow jolt]

I swear Vets can't help pissing and shitting after anything that touches a Vet

[fading iris]

I mean... Revolver still the same way so

[hollow jolt]

it was nice while it lasted...

[long wharf]

typical Fatshark

they just can't help themselves - every patch demonstrates how incompetent they are

and how much they lack actual DevOps and source control

[keen slate]

Bruh, why it's only 20k

it mf damnation

[clear heath]

Yeah i felt like gunners stunlock harder now

[harsh urchin]

give them a break, they're swedish

so prob going on 3 month vacation soon

[plush basalt]

https://i.imgur.com/f1vG4bX.png

[harsh urchin]

[plush basalt]

is this a good purgatus build?

[long wharf]

I mean, if I had gauranteed 6 months of vacation a year, I'd care a lot less about the quality of my work, too

guess I'm just jealous

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[harsh urchin]

they're european as well

[hollow jolt]

I genuinely want to see the development process to what leads teams to make the decisions that they do

[harsh urchin]

so they're not allowed to be fired

[hollow jolt]

"5% damage aura vs ammo regen? Yeah that's fine"

[olive tendon]

I need help my fellow psykers, what do I do to improve this?

[plush basalt]

drop it because surge is bad now

[keen slate]

Swap sprint for damage type

[long wharf]

well that's interesting - had a player quit during my last mission, another player replaced them, and I still got credit for a no death run

[harsh urchin]

delete it

[blissful token]

Surge isn't bad, it's just not a crutch

[keen slate]

with latest fixes i think flak is worth it

[harsh urchin]

kekeke

[keen slate]

Surge is bad now

[hollow jolt]

secretly the first player was killed by a commissar for deserting

[long wharf]

in all seriousness - you put it away and wait for Fatshark to hopefully fix it next patch

[olive tendon]

So what happened to it to make people hate this weapon?

[keen slate]

It can't even kill poxwalkers on t5 sometimes

[long wharf]

Fatshark fucked with how it works

[keen slate]

They fixed the bug that caused EP affect surge staff

and it made it actually viable

[long wharf]

Surge staff didn't do enough damage before the EP buff

[hollow jolt]

from what I hear, it targets random body parts now which includes arms and legs (which take -50% damage)

[long wharf]

and now it randomly hits body parts making your damage unreliable

[eager mantle]

A bug was fixed that made it surge in stocks. Bug was fixed. And additional gacha luck limb targeting

[clear heath]

I would've been fine with it if they just patched the EP part. I never even ran it with EP

[olive tendon]

This a bug or intended feature?

[hollow jolt]

is it ever intended?

[long wharf]

the only reason I enjoyed surge staff during patch 14 was the damage buff made it feel good

[idle aurora]

Blessings are set, just get flak 25% + crit chance 5%. But it's bad atm so make it and put it into closet

[fading iris]

not on patch notes, so could be a bug

[keen slate]

They had interesting talent = weapon interaction

and they just removed it

[hollow jolt]

ikr

[clear heath]

Nah the EP thing was dumb

[hollow jolt]

smite working with Surge could have been used in an interesting way

[clear heath]

if it was meant to work with EP, it would've also removed EP stacks

[eager mantle]

Was it interesting or free dmg?

[hollow jolt]

na they just removed it

[robust kayak]

hey fellas, whats good right now post changes?

[hollow jolt]

they could have done something to make it interesting instead of trash the weapon

[long wharf]

the surge+EP interaction was a fine example of Fatshark devs not understanding their own code

very amateur-hour

[olive tendon]

whats EP stand for?

[fading iris]

Fishing to relax while you wait the patch for the patch

[clear heath]

empowered psionics

[hollow jolt]

Empowered Psionics

[hollow jolt]

Trauma and Purg are fine

idk if voidstrike got touched

Iirc it didn't?

someone said the explosive damage nerf affected Voidstrike

[long wharf]

nobody's reported any changes with void

[hollow jolt]

but I can't verify

[robust kayak]

for blitz i assume its smite now?

[long wharf]

explosive damage against monstrosities was removed

[robust kayak]

with the nerfs to assail not sure how good they still are

[keen slate]

Both

[hollow jolt]

nice

[keen slate]

These skills were affecting surge staff too

[long wharf]

I really do hate sounding like a broken record.... buuuuuut "typical Fatshark"

[analog agate]

Trauma will always be good. It is the only skill weapon (kinda due to its shitty targeting) so you will never have enough people clamoring for a nerf of it

[silk hawk]

Explosive on vs staff was miserable anyways?

[keen slate]

Not sure they do it now

[long wharf]

as soon as I finish two more runs with my ogryn, I'm going to jump onto my psyker for testing

[analog agate]

Probably affects trauma too for bonbon

[fading iris]

[hollow jolt]

yeah but I mean it did something while you waited for it to get closer or was beast of nurgle so was too risky to get closer

[frank moat]

Is controller support on PC just absolutely fucked for everyone or just me

[onyx sentinel]

I heard surge staff is somehow bugged again?

[mortal breach]

Now it's being affected by smite modifiers apparently?

[lethal lagoon]

I've been trying to run EP surge smite since patch 13, and they find a new way to break it every patch

No that was the old patch

Now surge isn't affected but it randomly targets limbs and does shit damage

[onyx sentinel]

Everything you could run in patch 14 is still good, surge staff now targets random body parts (this is bad) and is acknowledged as unintended in the forums.

[lethal lagoon]

EP smite with flaming shriek feels so fucking good though

Especially on the new map with it's crazy chokepoints

a shame they broke surge again

[robust kayak]

for trauma staff what is the dump stat?

[onyx sentinel]

No this was what they fixed in patch 15, but now the targeting behaves differently but I don’t exactly know if it has to do with smite

[muted wyvern]

uhhh guys, I usually ran Void/Surge, but is this basically S-Tier Trauma?

[ashen schooner]

No it’s terrible

[muted wyvern]

could be better with T4, but

[onyx sentinel]

It’s a good flurry build, but I mostly see blazing trauma in auric runs now

[muted wyvern]

actually? I don't normally use Trauma, no fucking clue what's good on it.

[violet flax]

god assail just sucks now i hate it

[onyx sentinel]

You could still run with it

[muted wyvern]

ok, I can keep an eye out, main thing is the Blessings anyway, and I chose to flip those, I don't have the Blazing stuff yet. But at least it's fixable

[onyx sentinel]

Also you probably don’t want unyielding on a trauma staff, flak/carapace/maniac are preferable

You can’t stagger monstrosities like voidstrike headshots do iirc

[muted wyvern]

Yeah, I got Carapace at least, but got stuck with unyielding... not the worst roll though at least.

[severe folio]

so how is the update, have we figure out all the changes ?

[royal ibex]

'concern'

[onyx sentinel]

Surge staff is broken again, we lost some breakpoints due to warp rider fix, not much change on every other build.

[fading iris]

+++THE WARP+++

[violet flax]

it's like 10 extra seconds now to charge my shards lmao i just got the game friday im cursed

they ruin every game i like

[muted wyvern]

Surge is broken in a good way or a bad way? lol

[onyx sentinel]

I’m was talking about the trauma staff

[violet flax]

i run a pistol lol

[onyx sentinel]

I mean I was talking with another guy about his trauma staff

[analog agate]

Still argued warp resistance vs dmg vs quell. My blaze trauma currently is 80 in everything and 57 in dmg. I haven’t noticed any breakpoints I miss as in needing to do an extra blast on something compared to my 76 dmg one

[silk hawk]

Bad

[muted wyvern]

ah damn

[onyx sentinel]

You can’t really use the old assail as your main weapon in higher difficulties either or you’d just be a worse gunker, so it’s not a huge nerf unless you intend to play mostly on malice/heresy

[hasty pier]

Oh please. It's a perfectly fine flurry staff

[ashen schooner]

Correct

[static needle]

How much better are my chances of getting lvl 4 blessings if i consecrate a base score 340 weapon vs 360?

[keen slate]

You know, it's kinda funny that update that added Warp Traveller into the game is the update where psyker got butchered

https://youtu.be/GWD4K1WFICs

https://tenor.com/view/ironic-star-wars-chode-gif-5274592

[ashen schooner]

I don’t know if there are hard numbers on that, just that it seems better but still rng

[fading iris]

all part of the plan

[dark stag]

Scrap for blessing or keep?

[onyx sentinel]

No one has the exact numbers I don’t think, I tried finding out a few weeks ago

[untold widget]

It's a 666 damage voidstrike staff, I'd keep that lmao

[static needle]

what blessings do u want on a god roll purgatus?

[onyx sentinel]

I would like a better charge rate but that’s perfectly usable, swap flurry for surge/transfer peril and you’re golden

[sinful peak]

man the new map is not it

[violet flax]

im still so new, forgive me, but the shards seemed to shred even at level 4, ngl, it was fun as a primary weapon lol but you're saying for end game stuff, it's just not viable?

[sinful peak]

miserable experience with pubs

[static needle]

thats what you have this server for

go figure

[untold widget]

Well you gotta load those rando's up on the psyker carry train and make them be better

[frail spear]

I'm scared of new people lmao, it's why I never join these vc's

[burnt mulch]

same here TBH

[static needle]

do you have anything better? if no then keep, if yes then scrap for blessing

[untold widget]

but quickplay with rando's is better?

[static needle]

u dont need to join vc

[onyx sentinel]

Oh it’s viable, but you use it for patrols and gunners mostly because it can’t keep up with higher spawns like staves do

[static needle]

u can request no VC in your lfg post

[uneven compass]

just tried a surge staff build with the build someone posted earlier here with +flak/+Unarmored damage/ Warp nexus/ Warp Flurry and god on auric damnation i did not feel like i was carrying my own weight with the exception of smite and bubble shield. Surge felt immensely weak trying to kill anything

[frail spear]

True I guess. It's more the getting out of my comfort zone thing y'know?

[static needle]

and btw u dont really "meet" them per se, you just game w them

[onyx sentinel]

Which I think is perfect as a complementing tool for your build instead of the main focus

[static needle]

best blessings for purgatus?

[cerulean lily]

Anyone have a link to a good smite /voidstrike skill tree?

[onyx sentinel]

Check the pinned steam guide

[onyx sentinel]

Ditto

[static needle]

i have a screencap of my tree

ill dm

[cerulean lily]

@static needle that would be great

[static needle]

np

[frail spear]

I'd take a peek at that too if you wanna dm it to me.

[wheat quartz]

this blazing trauma business is really nice

too bad about +infested

back to the plasteel mines

[static needle]

i mean maaaaybe whadoiknow

[burnt mulch]

if im really bad at the game, what's a "safe" difficulty level i can play and not be too much of a drag on the group?

[lethal lagoon]

What lvl?

[long wharf]

3

[lethal lagoon]

But 3 is probably for the best yeah

[burnt mulch]

I am level 30 with a questionable build and laughable gear'

[bleak tulip]

3 is generally the newbie place yeah

[long wharf]

but honestly, you should practice on a 2 if you're that bad