#psyker-class

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plucky flax
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He runs xp and ordos curios then does speed running.

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Like 10~15 mins maelstrom games with his bois.

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So he's rich af and super high lvl.

silk hawk
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I was actually thinking about to run some ordo runs xD

vestal fulcrum
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Good for them, I suppose

plucky flax
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But I play the game for plasteels so I check every corner.

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I can't do speedrun and bypass them sweet plasteels.

silk hawk
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I am stuck due to ordos now xD

plucky flax
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Can be fren if you play on europe server. I don't like playing high ping. staregryn

heady garnet
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Idk what a Europe is

grizzled iris
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We talking about the reject Dotnl?

heady garnet
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NA lol

plucky flax
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Yeah dotnl.

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The legend himself.

grizzled iris
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Legend

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The guy is an idiot

plucky flax
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Why I don't play with him often.

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So Idk what he does. staregryn

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His darktide hours. Probably quite a lot of afk hours but still.

viscid matrix
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okay wtf did they do to deimos, first time using it in 2 weeks, and it knocks anything on its back on a headshot H2

grizzled iris
# plucky flax Why I don't play with him often.

He uses the old first attack mod that made you do first attack but faster than humanly possible, he also uses auto dodge, and he abuses bugged skips to skip parts of the maps just to flex with his level

plucky flax
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Oh yeah he does a lot of map bug skips things.

fluid knot
silk hawk
plucky flax
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I don't like it cos rip plasteels.

severe folio
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the people that use it are def orgyn level of intellect

fluid knot
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I've played with him before an he would run off, die, reconnect, rinse an repeat

plucky flax
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I try to finish my game asap while picking plasteels. Ideally if the game goes smooth it's under 30 mins. Sometimes I get the meme 40 mins + maelstrom games though.

viscid matrix
plucky flax
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I average 450+ plasteels per game or something.

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Why people don't help me peepoCryfade

severe folio
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all the deimos i got are so bad πŸ’”

silk hawk
fluid knot
plucky flax
silk hawk
plucky flax
viscid matrix
plucky flax
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605 here

silk hawk
shell igloo
plucky flax
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My record plasteels.. whatthefuck_heresy

viscid matrix
silk hawk
viscid matrix
silk hawk
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Its 2 shot h2+light

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At least it was like that last time o check

viscid matrix
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hmm it does seem to be, but the throwback wheverr you poke a head makes it very annoying to chain headshots

silk hawk
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True, but in circumstances where you have teammates usually h2 is enough

whole oxide
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nono, even if you have to spend forever repositioning and winding-up/charging, the only thing that counts is the number of thrusts/casts :>>

viscid matrix
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hmm i think ill stick to DS, that throwback on H2 is annoying

nimble burrow
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who the hell is meleeing a crusher

silk hawk
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And uh... Well speed addicts...

viscid matrix
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i use this πŸ˜„

west stream
viscid matrix
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cause they chain together as long as you keep clicking heads

west stream
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The emperor protects (from one hit kill maul)

plucky flax
silk hawk
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Even safer with penis sword πŸ™‚

plucky flax
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I don't like deimos. nooooo

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Illisi superiority.

strong gulch
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Deimos it too fiddly for me.

plucky flax
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Aye. Heavy 1 on mk4 ds against charging mutie is so much easier than heavy 2 on deimos.

bleak tulip
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I liked deimos for h2 but mk4 kinda just does the same thing faster

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and now I cant even crab wlk anymore

summer prairie
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h2 deimos is easy due to how long you can hold it

frank moat
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Mk4 is undoubtedly stronger but it just sorta feels limp for me

summer prairie
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for like 2 seconds

strong gulch
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Even if it takes two H2 from MK 4 duely, I prefer that tbh.

plucky flax
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I always soften up the mutie before heavy 1 with mk4 ds.

strong gulch
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I do like the pushes on force swords tho

bleak tulip
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also I'd rather have the mk4 poke than the deimos charge attack

plucky flax
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A few left click from staff.

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Or a few assail,

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I think my mk4 ds does 90% damage to mutie head.

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So I only need to very softly weaken the mutie.

strong gulch
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Yeah. That's the better way to go.

bleak tulip
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just right click with void once and its always a kill with basically no aiming needed whatthefuck_heresy

plucky flax
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Lemme check how much mine does actually.

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It'll kill 1 shot with a crit.

bleak tulip
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maybe one day ill be assed to get a +mutie mk4

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but I dont really super need it I feel lke

strong gulch
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I like to joust with the muties. Doesn't work all of the time tho.

bleak tulip
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sure would be neat but meh

plucky flax
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No buff it has this much left.

bleak tulip
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alredy pretty effortless

strong gulch
plucky flax
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So a few left click from staff and it's ez 1 shot.

bleak tulip
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yee

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main reason I would want maniac on mk4 is ragers tbh

supple skiff
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^

bleak tulip
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since they take way too long for the size of groups they come in to ever really melee

plucky flax
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I like maniac on all my melee weapons.

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Cos muties suck.

ornate hamlet
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ive been using the og force sword

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it isnt bad

plucky flax
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Mine is pretty good I think. whatthefuck_heresy

ornate hamlet
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i think its great as a allrounder kind of thing

bleak tulip
supple skiff
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obscurus living up to its name

ornate hamlet
supple skiff
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do tell

ornate hamlet
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how your able to horde clear and also do single target damage pretty well

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its fast good animation

left mirage
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what the fuck

bleak tulip
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now thats 100% a subjetive thing coming up

ornate hamlet
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if you use heavy alot and use light when your horde clearing its arguably
just as good as the new ones

supple skiff
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I use to like demois before they amped up the number of ragers

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now id rather not get animation locked

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run illsi with void, scryer and BB

strong gulch
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I don't like the locked animation that deimos and obscurus have.

supple skiff
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have a tool for every situation

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they should have given obscurus some sort of innate delfector buff or something

gray island
plucky flax
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I this good @bleak tulip I don't play voidstrike.

bleak tulip
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ye

plucky flax
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With tru aim.

strong gulch
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With the force sword block obstructing vision so much, deflector should be built in.

bleak tulip
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I wouldnt run cara

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but its not a big deal

plucky flax
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Can it not 1 shot crusher with surge anymore?

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Lemme test.

supple skiff
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did they change surge?

bleak tulip
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uhhhhhh maybe it a lot of stacks of shit

grizzled iris
bleak tulip
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itll be kinda close now

grizzled iris
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If you go 20% or more carapace dmg

plucky flax
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Oh it didn't.

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For me. nooooo

bleak tulip
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yeah I dont have cara buff and it doesnt anymore for me

plucky flax
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Has this much left.

bleak tulip
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yeah thats about right

plucky flax
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What's good perks then?

bleak tulip
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maybe with 4 charges or something like that

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I run flak and crit

plucky flax
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Unarmoured to 1 shot dreg gunner?

bleak tulip
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nah you can alraedy one shot em with half charge or so I think

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maybe a little optimistic but you dont need unarmored thb

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flak is good because that apparently also applies to maulers, I couldnt get the head hit to count as carapace for some reason

plucky flax
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Dreg gunner not shooter. The elite dude.

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They pretty tanky.

bleak tulip
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I dont do super much testing myself tho

supple skiff
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maulers are flak armored in the chest

bleak tulip
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yeah but void can headshot

plucky flax
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Without unarmoured headshot.

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So I think with unarmoured it'll 1 shot these guys.

bleak tulip
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so it SHOULD hit cara but it doesnt seem to for me when I tried it

bleak tulip
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personally I run either of those

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for damage

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DD is nice because weakspot damage, think that counts

plucky flax
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Oh yeah I'm running ep cos I use assail with this build.

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Since tru aim with assail is op.

bleak tulip
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but warp is more consistent and comfy for venting

plucky flax
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Voidstrike is so hard I go back to plasma gun on vet. SadgeCry

bleak tulip
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still 16%, might give you breakpoints

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I'm not that much of a meatgrinder goblin like you or arco so I cant give you the exact stats, I mostly vibe

grizzled iris
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My Voidstrike

bleak tulip
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any other damage buffs?

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I gotta run, gonna go home and I can go check my shit I guess

plucky flax
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Hrm looks like high warp at least.

glossy ember
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probably perfect timing stacks

summer prairie
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if you run DD, you can hit ogryn one-shots without relevant perks

plucky flax
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My comfy build is assail handcannon abusing. bedge

heady garnet
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Skill issue

plucky flax
glossy ember
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my comfy build is switching to ogryn

restive slate
supple skiff
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my horde deleter

glossy ember
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does DD have any peril generation resistance

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might try it with scrier and a stzff

spice oar
bleak tulip
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that ones pretty bad tbh

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and thats a point you want for assail bounce if youre doing that

near wyvern
rare storm
bleak tulip
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WS already has to sacrifice that point to get to vampire

rare storm
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Can get lucky and hit a unhighlighted DD target by accident lulw

bleak tulip
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you kill marked targets so inconsistently all things considered that it also being a 20% chance only is just

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yeah

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bad

rare storm
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It's for the gamba

bleak tulip
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yeah but that means 9/10 youre already full toughness when it triggers

rare storm
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Toughness or perill

bleak tulip
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okay so I tested it and yeah

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right click void on mauler headshot counts as flak

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I wasnt crazy

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left click correctly gives cara

ornate hamlet
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Hey guys you now the Shards for the Psyker?

bleak tulip
stable silo
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do u always run surge with smite or run the voidy with smite?

bleak tulip
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Ive been trying smite

stable silo
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cause i wanna void but i wanna try smite

bleak tulip
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and kinda miss assail

stable silo
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i love the void

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same i love assail

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with EP procs

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literally wiped like 15 gunner in a pack in 2 seconds with the reset

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but people seem to want smite

bleak tulip
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mosty just used assail for toughness regen on trash or when shooters are too spread out or sort of in cover so I dont have to pick at em one void at a time but yeah

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also quick switching

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when going in and out of melee

stable silo
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i love shooting all the charges maxing out my peril softening up elites and stuff then whipin out the void for some Big D dmg and perilous procs

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fast and smooth

bleak tulip
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#psyker-class message seeing this post made me wanna try it because I am a big creeping flame enjoyer too but idk

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gotta give it more time to cook in my brainpan so I actually use it more and better

crude trout
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for blaze trauma users, do you guys take wildfire?

vestal fulcrum
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And it’s been quite broken since it was originally released pre patch 13

crude trout
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and since focusing on crit, should I take mettle?

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oops sorry I mean perfect timing

vestal fulcrum
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Both can be good if you can keep peril high for tanking that Warp Nexus Crit chance

viscid matrix
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Wildfire is plain mediocre, it at best splits the stacks evenly across all mobs nearby, so in general everything gets 1 stack when an adjacent mob die while on fire

exotic lily
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are these the right blessings, if so, what am i doing with the perks?

winged phoenix
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Crit Chance + Flak I believe is the standard Perk setup for Purgy

plucky flax
# bleak tulip

So 4 warp charges seem to be enough to 1 shot dreg gunner. Not a hard feat to do.

exotic lily
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@winged phoenix what sort of build are people running with it? bb, venting, warp siphon?

winged phoenix
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Personally im running Smite - Vent - Warp stacks for Auric Damnation.

I just prefer Smite for those "Oh shit thats a lot of carapace" moments.

viscid matrix
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i havent used vent in a while, dome is just too good

exotic lily
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ty

plucky flax
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I have a meme keystone less purg build but it's not great.

prime elk
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vent is good, but both versions of the shield are just too nice to have

plucky flax
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Purg just does too slow dps against elites and specials.

viscid matrix
winged phoenix
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Yeah exactly, your role is more horde control.

plucky flax
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You can do everything purg does with blaze trauma and better.

eternal escarp
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thanks daddy melk for deciding to give me this in my store today

still hearth
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(It's mostly true)

plucky flax
still hearth
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Trauma and void nerf when

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Smaller AoE thanks

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Removed pierce thanks

orchid shadow
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No no, don't nerf, buff the other staves! Surge on Surge staff please.

still hearth
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Lmao

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Buff Purgatus to trauma levels

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Let me do 500 DPS beam

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To all armor types too

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Sounds good

eternal escarp
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actually we dont really have an equivalent of Beam staff in this game do we

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i miss it

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but ig i can just boot up vt2 if i really want

ornate hamlet
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is there any way to fix this staff? I have access to surge 4

grizzled iris
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With that staff you can only go the flurry + quell route

wheat storm
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Tbh....

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Laspistol >>>>>

ornate hamlet
grizzled iris
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Transfer Peril and Warp Flurry

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Surge requires Warp Nexus

ornate hamlet
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Oh ok.

grizzled iris
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And preferably +5% Crit chance perk

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You could replace both blessings for Surge and Nexus

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but you'd miss the 5% crit

plucky flax
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I feel like with tru aim you don't have to pick nexus.

grizzled iris
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Making it suboptimal

misty hinge
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what are the best perks for a fire wand?

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im italian so idk the name of it in english

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sorry

ornate hamlet
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I just need something that can get me started with doing normal damnation

foggy breach
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huh smite spreads more than i thought

grizzled iris
foggy breach
misty hinge
grizzled iris
foggy breach
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and then probably warp nexus (increased crit chance based on peril)

bleak tulip
misty hinge
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its just my bad terms cuz idk english that much

foggy breach
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because critical hits inflict twice as much soulblaze

grizzled iris
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Perks = Perks, Blessings = Perks, Talents = Perks

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Everything is Perks now

plucky flax
misty hinge
bleak tulip
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(at least not usualy Kekw )

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yeah but hitting all heads is hard

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since the run cycles fuck with it

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idk I like having more crit for those time im spamming into mauler pockets

plucky flax
plucky flax
grizzled iris
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Don't promote builds that use bugs to function...

bleak tulip
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head since you might as well

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doesnt pen through em either way

small cargo
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I want to complete the Malleus Monstronum penance, but I have no idea how. can you give me any advice on that?

bleak tulip
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you can aim for chest too if youre too close because then the surge hit is more likely to hit something behind

foggy breach
# misty hinge is it hard to find?

depends. to my knowledge nexus and flurry both exist at a range of tiers so it's not exclusive to high tier blessings, but you'll want the highest tier which might be a bit difficult to get. usually the best way to get them is to find a green or grey purgatus staff with good stats and a high base stat total (<370), then use Hadron to consecrate it up to orange rarity because that has a good chance of giving you level 3 or 4 blessings (though this can get expensive)
the other option is to check melk's store every day to see if he's selling a purgatus staff with either blessing that you can take off and put on a better purg staff (must be a purg staff, because you can't transfer blessings between different kinds of staffs)

misty hinge
bleak tulip
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after a certain amount of charge

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in that case keep it head height for trash but full charge @plucky flax

plucky flax
foggy breach
bleak tulip
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guess with full charge you get past mauler hitmass or something

small cargo
bleak tulip
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dunno abuot the calculations for that tho

still hearth
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Ask an Ogryn for help

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They can afk tank a daemonhost with shield

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Then just take forever doing it

foggy breach
small cargo
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Any special level I should prefer or something? Like special condition or similar?

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And what about the Bots? They will shoot it, wont they?

echo frigate
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Damage is the dumpstat on purg

bleak tulip
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tradeoff

small cargo
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It has to be a prviate mission too

still hearth
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I don't know if you even have to finish the mission or just kill it

plucky flax
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Just hit head against everything then. yesgryn

vestal fulcrum
still hearth
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Yeah so lights out

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Find a DH

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Kill it

small cargo
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No finish, just the kill, yea

vestal fulcrum
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Anything else is extra plasteel

still hearth
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You can let bots die or have more friendlies

foggy breach
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you can get a 100% guarenteed boss on the consignment yard mission

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it will always spawn at the end of teh mission

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then just find 3 friends to play shield ogryn for you with taunt

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that way they can facetank boss aggro while you brainburst

small cargo
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nice tips, thank you all

foggy breach
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does it need to be brainburst damge? or any damage

bleak tulip
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yeah its time

rugged field
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was thinking about trying Laspistol, anyone have Blessing recommendations? have one with Dumdum and Raking fire atm but im not sure about Raking fire being worth it over something like infernus or ghost

foggy breach
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if its any damage, use a purgatus staff and then creeping flames venting shriek to get like 20 stacks of soulblaze on the monster and deal a gazillion damage per tick

small cargo
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any damage 90%, then finish with brain burst

foggy breach
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yeah so you can use the soulblaze stacking tactic to make it go faster

small cargo
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nice, will do that!

still hearth
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Vraks 3

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Is actually highest boss damage

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If you can hit the head

foggy breach
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who is your pfp they look like ryoshu

idle bay
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Melk melked out this devil claw. I don't have one - now i want one for parry and lulz. Should i grab this one? Looks not half-bad.

covert ermine
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so gun-psyker viable or nah?

bleak tulip
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yeah

idle bay
bleak tulip
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but Ill judge you

covert ermine
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i am tired of lighting and flame staffs

bleak tulip
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try void smug

idle bay
covert ermine
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no

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i want guns

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revolvers

idle bay
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Blazing Nexus Trauma and you forget about existence of guns

still hearth
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Revolver or Vraks 3/7

idle bay
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Brunt.. my man!

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Lets brick it!

bleak tulip
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fuck yeah

idle bay
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Meh...

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Unsalvagable

sonic summit
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wat do wit dis

bleak tulip
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change run and gun to flurry and cara to crit or flak methinks

digital narwhal
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Probably Flak imo

still hearth
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I'd keep run n gun and swap perks

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Flurry is minimal on Purgatus

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It just saves you some peril pretty much

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(And run n gun secretly gives damage)

covert ermine
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rate for gun psyker

still hearth
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But that's a sick roll

sonic summit
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does flurry stack with either attack?

smoky fractal
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the synergy looks better with deadly accurate tho

bleak tulip
still hearth
bleak tulip
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or wdym

still hearth
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It used to proc on special staff swings

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That was fun

bleak tulip
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lmao

still hearth
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Stack Flurry by twirling your staff

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And back then Flurry had 5 stacka

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So it was even better

still hearth
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But you can just do some quick RMB cancels

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If you want to stack Flurry

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Min charge, release, swap weapons, repeat

bleak tulip
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basically no staff reached 5 stacks tho really

still hearth
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Voidstrike only basically

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Surge did but

sonic summit
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does it do more damage if i fully charge purge?

still hearth
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Old surge lmao

bleak tulip
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yeah and only if you spammed it which was super bad on void back then

bleak tulip
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since then you really did no damage

still hearth
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It just fires for longer

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So technically it is more damage

olive ember
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had a lvl 23 psyker join hi shock

bleak tulip
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yeah purg is great to just start wish short charge

olive ember
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and decided

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yeah im gonna smite the boss

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fucking useless

bleak tulip
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its times like those I low key wish you could show total player level across all characters as an option for truelevel

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decide if I'm mad or sorry for the guy

naive imp
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i know purg staff looks cool but can y'all stop?

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PSA

it's annoying af to play with

still hearth
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Idgaf

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Enjoy my flames

frail sand
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enjoy the soulblaze

idle bay
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Let's try 2nd brick of the day....

still hearth
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If you wanted to see things then you should've tuned down your settings

heady garnet
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Guys I made an edit

idle bay
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Brunt .. you a-hole! Bricked beforte i even took it Hadron

frail sand
idle bay
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62% blast radius is to clip toe nails...

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Will do. Now Lets truly. BIRCK IT. HEy Hadron you old rust bucket - here i come!

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Another Brick

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As foretold

covert ermine
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should i change anything?

frigid zenith
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Yeah.

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Move to the entire other side of the tree.

frail sand
frigid zenith
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Trauma is one of the strongest weapons in the entire game, no need.

still hearth
frail sand
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oh the lmb attack lol

still hearth
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And melee swings

frail sand
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ah yes, let me swing my staff to transfer peril

still hearth
frigid zenith
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Nothing else in the game clears patrols or literally anything like trauma with blaze crits.

bleak tulip
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trauma gets surge to I think Kekw

covert ermine
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gun psyker ofc

bleak tulip
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also only works on left click

idle bay
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I'm out of Plasteel anyway - can't afford anothe bricked Trauma for a while

still hearth
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Uhh. Run CDR aura

frail sand
idle bay
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It was like 6 bricked Traum staffs in row

covert ermine
frigid zenith
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I think I rolled 40+ trauma staves until I got an ok one.

frail sand
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left click only auric run when

still hearth
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Battle Meditation won't proc often enough to matter probably

still hearth
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Since its actually 17.5%

frigid zenith
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pykers with guns is a meme.

frail sand
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featuring surge traum left click spam

still hearth
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No it's not

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Psyker with guns is strong

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Just with a select few guns

frigid zenith
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it's strong, but with a staff you're WAY stronger, hence, meme.

bleak tulip
frigid zenith
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meme away though.

still hearth
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Not necessarily stronger just different

covert ermine
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i am already way beyond playing strong meta builds

frigid zenith
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Trauma is nowhere near meta.

still hearth
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What

near wyvern
still hearth
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R u high

frigid zenith
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I've seen like 4 people use it.

still hearth
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Voidstrike and Trauma is the meta rn

frigid zenith
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Everyone else is using surge.

frail sand
near wyvern
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@frigid zenith yes such a meme...

still hearth
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I mean sure

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People are playong surge cause the bug

iron flame
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I am guilty of it.

still hearth
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There's no in game meta

frigid zenith
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damage numbers don't really mean much.

iron flame
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Too much powers

frigid zenith
#

I can sit in a game forever and farm hordes too.

still hearth
#

Yeah just CC things

iron flame
#

I ended up blowing myself up a few times

still hearth
#

Damage doesn't matter guys

frail sand
#

i use warp charge surge/smite

still hearth
bleak tulip
frigid zenith
#

Damage does matter, just saying it totally depends on your group, the missing, your playstyle.

iron flame
#

I will miss this op surge staff once it is patched.

frigid zenith
#

I don't think they should patch it.

iron flame
#

Just copiuming for a good roll on voidstrike in the mean time

still hearth
#

I won't. I'll just never use it

iron flame
#

If they won't patch it, it will be my main i guess lol

frigid zenith
#

Even bugged surge staff can't keep up with trauma on D5A missions.

still hearth
#

Voidstrike needs more nerfs

#

What a surprise

bleak tulip
#

no u Smiledog

still hearth
#

Single target damage

frigid zenith
#

Shit, even purge voidtrike beats it.

rare storm
bleak tulip
#

its fiiiiiiine one shots crusher

rare storm
iron flame
#

Huh ? Trauma is good ?

still hearth
#

Is less than AoE??

#

Fatshark keeps doing this

rare storm
frigid zenith
#

Only thing that beats pure voidstrike is trauma.

frail sand
#

smoke staff when

still hearth
#

For some reason

still hearth
#

Xbox players can't even mod the settings

iron flame
#

Which force sword i should be using ? I am mainly using force sword for defensive since i am mostly in surge staff

still hearth
frail sand
still hearth
#

Obscurus is never the right choice

iron flame
#

Huh. didn't even know there is 2 different force sword until you said it lol

frigid zenith
#

deimos

bleak tulip
#

fun fact, theres three

still hearth
#

There's three

frail sand
#

i like deimos

iron flame
#

Had been using that obscurus since launch lol

rare storm
#

Shi

frigid zenith
#

deimos has crazy good damage, get that with deflector.

rare storm
#

The deimos is basically a better obscurus if you like it

frigid zenith
#

laugh at ranged damage.

iron flame
#

Hmm what is the combos i should be using on illisi then ?

still hearth
#

Slaughterer

#

Then whatever

frigid zenith
#

Pull out staff and kill before they get to you combo.

#

Or if it's a maniac pull out your mk4 dualing sword and one shot them.

rare storm
#

You can check the atheneum in the pinned messages for all the ideal weapon setups

iron flame
#

Oh i mean like eh weapon combo. like say if i am surroudned by horde, do i like heavy and something ?

#

ahh ok

rare storm
#

o

#

if ilisi

#

dodge, charge, heavy swing

#

and repeat and everything dies

olive ember
#

mfw psyker uses surge staff against bosses lmao

smoky fractal
#

one day a boss will have flak

#

and i will have my day lol

wheat storm
#

Why tf everyone is using staffs

#

There is a lot of interesting weapons with much more potential

heady garnet
#

because we're playing psyker (gunkers exist and are valid too though)

smoky fractal
#

i have 4 30s

#

do i really need 4 people using guns

wheat storm
#

What?

#

Could you please repeat it but in human language

#

At least english

smoky fractal
#

hey ass hat

#

i have 4 30s

wheat storm
#

What is this

smoky fractal
#

i dont need 4 people using guns

wheat storm
#

Dummah

#

What the hell is 4 30s

#

Ranks?

smoky fractal
#

4 level 30s noob

wheat storm
#

Bruh

frail sand
#

doesn't that include urself? unless 5 player lobby

wheat storm
#

Speak normaly dumahh

heady garnet
#

I'm live watching a trainwreck

wheat storm
#

But guns are kinda overall better...

smoky fractal
#

lol tell me you dont use void or truama without telling me

wheat storm
#

Firearms actually have more firepower than an iron stick shooting ass balls or blue smurf diarrhea

frail sand
#

what, they're just different playstyles...?

heady garnet
hollow jolt
#

Guns are bad, REAL psykers use revolvers and knifes πŸ’ͺ

wheat storm
#

I aint playing veteran

smoky fractal
#

this fucking troll gtfo

ionic sorrel
frail sand
#

real psykers use shovel stolen from veteran

bleak tulip
wheat storm
#

Idk why guns are bad if I can solo whole mission with 3 ppl afking

olive ember
#

Psykers had their shotguns stolen and then given to the vets and zealots

#

The fucking zealots smh

wheat storm
#

With 3% dmg

heady garnet
frail sand
#

starter shovel based

wheat storm
#

Laspistol IS good

frail sand
#

15% morale boost

wheat storm
#

60% morale boost for whole team

frigid zenith
#

No other class gets to use the staff, not sure why you'd give up that utility when a vet can do the gun job better and not run out of ammo.

supple skiff
#

Gotta save the ammo for gun Luther big bois

ionic sorrel
supple skiff
#

Lugger*

wheat storm
#

+70% toughness regained from hit

heady garnet
#

Yeah it's my for fun weapon lol

frail sand
#

Gunker is fun if you want to switch things up

wheat storm
#

200% crit dmg

#

300% crit chance

heady garnet
ionic sorrel
#

Or if I get a team of psykers and can hog the ammo.

wheat storm
#

Truly a war power

smoky fractal
#

we all know the inherit stats of the las pistol

wheat storm
#

It's for shovel

supple skiff
#

Hell I’d bring two staves if I could lol

smoky fractal
#

bruh just joined the discord and thinks everyone hasnt done the research

heady garnet
#

Just wanna confirm as long as I have EP talented nomanus will do nomanus things even if I don't have stacks?

frigid zenith
#

Don't need ammo when everything is trying to get up from being knocked over with trauma explosions.

wheat storm
#

And its not even a finished pistol

smoky fractal
#

meat grinder video or didnt happen

wheat storm
smoky fractal
west stream
#

Scryer lends itself to gunker, saying psyker should never use guns is an odd take

frigid zenith
#

The dps of a trauma blaze staff on a patrol of crushers is unmatched.

wheat storm
smoky fractal
wheat storm
#

K

smoky fractal
#

we use empirical evidence

#

not your word

west stream
#

Empyrean actually

#

We psyking it here

frigid zenith
#

Imperial

wheat storm
#

You can't just believe that pistol is better than ur shitty ass staff

#

Even a common one

olive ember
smoky fractal
#

you cant just walk in here and think we dont know the game

frigid zenith
#

Imperiums empirical imperial evidence.

wheat storm
#

Without any upgrades

smoky fractal
#

fucking noob

heady garnet
#

i genuinely think this guy is a troll

wheat storm
#

Get a life idk

west stream
#

Multiple viable builds and their condequences. By theodoroum Kazonus

olive ember
#

why are we yelling at each other?

wheat storm
#

Idk

#

That bud is just mad at me

brave fiber
brave turret
#

first roll

west stream
#

People argue their build is good

brave turret
#

i just hope i don't get screwed on blessings

olive ember
brave fiber
frigid zenith
#

We aren't yelling. THIS IS YELLING.

heady garnet
smoky fractal
#

guy thinks he knows better than the data we have recorded and learned already

wheat storm
#

Cuz I said that blaze staff is mid

west stream
#

Others argue they are bad

smoky fractal
heady garnet
near wyvern
# frigid zenith I can sit in a game forever and farm hordes too.

Yeah. Except an Auric Damnation that lasts 30min isn't much farming hordes when you have half of the team's elite kills as well and around the same boss damage as the three others (with fourth not dealing much)...

But you know. Must be useless thing. Why even kill things, just stagger your way to the valk.

plucky flax
olive ember
#

lmao

#

rng

#

kind?

#

prepare for brick

frigid zenith
heady garnet
# brave turret what

that way you can't get the shitty perk or shitty blessing when you go to purple and orange

harsh urchin
#

the talent support for gun psyker is just pretty bad. scrier's is just terrible due to it using the new volleyfire design even after it was reverted for vet, and DD straight up doesnt work

heady garnet
#

increases your chance of getting a good 2nd perk and blessing, then you can just change them out to the ones you like

brave turret
#

get the crit chance on power up and etc

near wyvern
west stream
#

The fools brought a stick to a gunfight

wheat storm
# smoky fractal guy thinks he knows better than the data we have recorded and learned already

Blud, just go, and find a friend or smth, get a life, touch grass, feel the touch of a gracefull sun that shines every day, feel happiness, why would you spend all your time seating in front of your pc screen and just arguing for no particular reason because someone is "discowd" Said that weapon in game that u glaze is purely mid and other weapons have a chance to be good too, go talk to your family or friends, find yourself a pet, spend time reading books

plucky flax
wheat storm
#

Tlfum

#

Too long fucked ur mom

west stream
#

Really though I feel like the fact different builds are trying to do different things is lost to us all sometimes

wheat storm
#

Idiot

near wyvern
#

Staves have their place, guns have their place. The only thing on a big weaker side is Purge especially since it doesn't stagger Crushers and Scab Ragers with LMB anymore but even that is perfectly usable at Auric Damnation.

smoky fractal
#

i didnt write a novel no one read who is the idiot

#

lol

summer prairie
#

you can do 4k+ dps to a reaper with a laspistol, probably what he means

heady garnet
#

doesn't this server have rules regarding what this dude is doiing

#

on a side note best maps for warp battery?

frigid zenith
west stream
#

Revolver ocelot psyker remains peak aesthetic tho

brave turret
#

this feels like very pointless argument

wheat storm
#

I'm saying what that guy deserves

wheat storm
heady garnet
clear heath
#

what did i walk in to?

near wyvern
brave turret
#

gun psyker can be good but it can be better if you ask me

clear heath
#

people getting heated over guns vs staves again?

wheat storm
brave turret
#

i think the las pistol is one of the best weapons for a psyker

brave fiber
west stream
#

Shoot bullet, it goes through 5 dudes, kills a poxhound and detonates a barrel, throwing zealot over edge

brave turret
#

that or a revolver

west stream
#

Truly the most glorious option

near wyvern
wheat storm
frigid zenith
#

lol

west stream
#

Laspistol has psyker shove therefore cool AF

near wyvern
#

If you want to look for memes make a tac axe melee Psyker

smoky fractal
west stream
#

Tac axe slander here?

frigid zenith
#

Why are you upset that the weapon that psykers were designed for is what they use the best?

brave turret
smoky fractal
west stream
#

Kidding I only use dueling and force

wheat storm
smoky fractal
near wyvern
plucky flax
#

I use handcannon revolver to buff assail and never shoot my gun. Now that's meme.

near wyvern
#

Malefic Momentum screams for weaving with gun and Assails.

wheat storm
#

Devs added guns for psykers for a reason

plucky flax
wheat storm
frigid zenith
near wyvern
west stream
#

psyker pulls trigger on gun, unrelated crusher's head brainbursts

#

I like to imagine thats how that perk works

frigid zenith
#

then play a vet.

wheat storm
#

I like psyker abilities

frigid zenith
west stream
#

Itt: people use a different build than you do

wheat storm
#

And I like restoring all my toughness for one click

brave turret
#

Cause I remember wanting to try blazing piety with the crit from a force sword and then not it not working on assail

rare storm
#

People enjoy them, they can use them

frigid zenith
west stream
#

I am not sure what argument is at this point

#

Guns are obviously viable

frigid zenith
#

There is no argument.

west stream
#

Staves are obviously viable

frigid zenith
#

A viable meme.

rare storm
clear heath
#

I think it should be pretty obvious that the gun does more boss dps than staves

frigid zenith
#

anything a psyker can do with a gun another class can do better.

smoky fractal
#

the orginal argument which started all of this was a blanket statment that staves were bad

clear heath
#

considering our staves actually suck against bosses

smoky fractal
#

and they are not

wheat storm
#

Stages are mid, like they are alright but not good

#

Staves*

west stream
#

Sure guns have superior continuous damage vs single target, pretty much all staves do aoe

frigid zenith
#

void strike slaps bosses.

wheat storm
#

Real

rare storm
#

The goal is just to have fun, not be better than anybody else

#

if I want to play a mid class but I find it fun, why not

frigid zenith
#

I'm just saying guns on a psyker are a meme, Im not knocking people for doing it.

rare storm
#

ok

near wyvern
frigid zenith
#

I love the laspistol, just not on psykers.

plucky flax
west stream
#

Noice

plucky flax
#

On all classes that can use revolver.

smoky fractal
willow hazel
west stream
#

Psyker has higher baseline crit

west stream
#

Its good for weapons that rely on crit

near wyvern
west stream
#

And talents lend to it

willow hazel
near wyvern
#

Get your numbers right

rare storm
brave turret
# near wyvern 30

your more then likely to only get a uptime of 15 seconds with schier gaze active

frigid zenith
#

Just accept that guns on a psyker are a meme.

still hearth
#

They aren't

frigid zenith
#

100%

still hearth
frigid zenith
#

Meme land.

near wyvern
#

You just can't accept they are not a meme

west stream
#

What does that even mean? We are going in circles

still hearth
#

You're the only one who thinks it

brave turret
#

even when im cleaving through a horde with a sword, i only get up to like 20 seconds

frigid zenith
#

My dad is cooler than your dad and he said psyker guns are a meme.

near wyvern
#

And are spreading false information like an infested heretic

west stream
#

You can clear auric maelstrom id say no build is a meme tbh

frigid zenith
frail sand
#

the water supply must be contaminated

plucky flax
#

Handcannon assail is definitely a good meme.

frigid zenith
#

you can clear AM with grey crap if you know what you're doing.

plucky flax
#

It's incredibly op. whatthefuck_heresy

west stream
frigid zenith
#

Doesn't change the fact the gun psykers are a meme.

willow hazel
#

Why do people always complain about gun Psyker, but never gun Zealot? Just one time I want to see a Zealot get flamed for using a revolver

iron flame
#

staregryn I am too reliant on regenning toughness with peril gen/quell and warp kills

iron flame
#

Soo guns are no go for me at psyker

west stream
#

And thats fine

frigid zenith
#

It's becasue we feel sorry for the zealot.

summer prairie
#

our third archetype is even called gunslinger

rare storm
frigid zenith
#

The zealot can't make crusher patrols disappear like psykers can.

frigid zenith
still hearth
#

Is Whicks MemeMastodon

willow hazel
rare storm
still hearth
#

I'm genuinely curious

#

Same vibes tbh

frigid zenith
harsh urchin
#

what's a meme mastodon

clear heath
#

how strong does something have to be to not be a meme?

rare storm
#

Ah I see what you are now

#

Aight I'm going back to eat

smoky fractal
#

i dont think its a meme anymore

#

bro needs to change with the times

frigid zenith
#

The real question is, are you having fun?

willow hazel
#

Anything worse than Purgatus is a meme

still hearth
#

So basically nothing

willow hazel
still hearth
#

Recon guns are still ass tbf

smoky fractal
#

but pew pew

iron flame
frigid zenith
#

If you had a tank if real like, took off the cannon and put a .50 cal sniper rifle in it's place would you say that's a good use of that tank?

willow hazel
#

You are also immune to ranged attacks

willow hazel
iron flame
#

ahh there is my problem. skill issue lol

frigid zenith
# smoky fractal mobile perch

But it's basically a meme, it was not intended for that use? Will it work? Maybe, but you've lost something there, a core design flaw. That's like psykers with a gun in this game. Yes, it works, but literally anything else with that gun does that job better in some way. By doing the role of something else on a class not even designed for it, even though you can get some decent damage numbers up there, you're still a meme.

still hearth
#

It doesn't though

frigid zenith
still hearth
frigid zenith
#

Literally a suborbital ion cannon.

willow hazel
smoky fractal
#

im just going to keep reiterating that its not a meme anymore

still hearth
#

I think it's best to just give up on this one, siblings.

smoky fractal
#

pre patch 14 it would be

frigid zenith
#

psykers with guns are no sibling of mine.

olive ember
#

eh

#

most psykers I see are worse than me so

#

acceptable loss

frigid zenith
willow hazel
frigid zenith
#

Sir, this is a meme game.

#

Please stay on task.

olive ember
#

Idc what they bring as long as they are good

smoky fractal
near wyvern
frigid zenith
#

Hold on guys, lemme load up WoW and see if I can't find this undead mage a gun.

still hearth
#

I miss Shredder

frigid zenith
#

That's what Gandalf was missing, a mk5IAG.

still hearth
#

It was silly

near wyvern
olive ember
#

just use agri brauto

still hearth
#

When are they going to give Psykers brauto though

olive ember
#

well psyker doesn't have brautos

rare storm
#

If Harry Potter used a gun, the movie would've ended in 20mins

frigid zenith
#

right?!

rare storm
#

Point: Gunker

near wyvern
frigid zenith
#

is meme

still hearth
#

I'll have to try

#

Brrrr gun

frigid zenith
#

the mk5IAG is fucking silly on a vet.

near wyvern
#

Recon lasguns would need something for their ammo economy, the damage is good but chews up ammo so fast

willow hazel
frigid zenith
#

Everything dies at all ranges.

clear heath
#

did they buff the columnus a lot or something? Been seeing a lot of people mention it

frigid zenith
#

Yes.

#

It's probably the best gun in the game.

tepid shale
#

Void staff the basic all rounder?

clear heath
#

what did they do with it?

frigid zenith
#

buffed the entire line I think.

willow hazel
frigid zenith
#

More damage, ammo, clip size.

near wyvern
willow hazel
near wyvern
willow hazel
#

That the time it takes to unload a whole clip

near wyvern
#

Columnus chews quite fast

frigid zenith
near wyvern
#

Against horde you do the same but only dump a single clip. Your gun kills also trigger Malefic Momentum and crits put up Perfect Timing so that blaze hits quite hard.

frigid zenith
#

If the soulblaze damage gets totally wild with dum dum I might consider it though for the meme factor.

near wyvern
willow hazel
#

It just has a CD

frigid zenith
smoky fractal
#

im just gonna say staves are not bad, and ima go. have fun yall

frigid zenith
near wyvern
# frigid zenith I don't think I could give up making entire hordes disappear with one or two sho...

You are probs looking at a 12 stack blaze here (trauma / void cap 6 plus 6 from Creeping Flames). Brittleness caps at 40%, Soulblaze has 0.1 armour mod against crushers so that's a 0.5 multiplier. 12 stacks tick damage rounded up is 119 so 119 * 0.5 for 11 ticks is 654 damage and then you have a tick per stack that falls off so 654 damage in 8 seconds, maybe 800 damage in 12 seconds... Crushers have 3.6k HP. Yeah it's not that. It's either perilous combustion from other elites/specials or the direct damage of Trauma/Void. The blaze is not the one doing the work here.

frigid zenith
#

Real talk on gun psyker though. Depending on the teammates. Im seeing 700-1.5 damage in AMs with a staff build. With gun, it's funny but maybe 500-900. I feel like I apply way more damage and have way more util with the staff.

near wyvern
heady garnet
#

queues up in HISTG Auric to work on warp battery

#

veteran says he wants to look for grims and keeps on wandering off and dyign

still hearth
#

Nice

#

I'm glad for them

heady garnet
still hearth
#

Did they find the grims

heady garnet
#

he found both

#

and lost both

still hearth
#

Pog

#

Destroy the evil artifacts

frigid zenith
#

Destroy the evil gun psykers.

chrome linden
#

whats this little exclimation mark mean?>

frigid zenith
#

Civil War!

near wyvern
frigid zenith
#

That's not exactly what I said.

#

Obviously, it's not the soulblaze.

near wyvern
frigid zenith
#

It's everything above.

#

what you don't knock over and kill outright is gonna die soon after to soulblaze.

heady garnet
frigid zenith
#

What else in the game can CC and dish out that much damage?

near wyvern
#

Not CC but more damage yes

#

Staves all bring control and damage in some form

#

Guns bring a ton of damage

#

If your team already has control

frigid zenith
#

Sure, while you have ammo.

near wyvern
#

You need more damage

frigid zenith
#

The only place you're gonna win the gun argument on DPS is against a boss.

near wyvern
#

I can go with my Columnus through Auric Damnation without ever running out ammo if there is a vet with the ammo aura. If there isn't, I only need a leftover or two when all the others are full on ammo.

frigid zenith
#

Accounting for the AoE damage on staff it's not really a contest.

willow hazel
frigid zenith
#

What about those pug games when there's no ammo vet and you have others using guns? You still taking a gun on the psyker?

near wyvern
willow hazel
#

And you can always just Assail hordes, it works great with guns

near wyvern
#

I take the ammo that others don't

#

Ping like crazy and if all run past it I pick it up

frigid zenith
#

I just have a different experience than you, I have yet to see a psyker with a gun come anywhere close to my damage in a AM mission.

clear heath
#

maybe you guys should play together and see who does more damage

harsh urchin
#

maybe you guys should do a mission together and post the scoreboard afterwards

#

settle this

#

once and for all

#

LOL

clear heath
#

same brain cell

frigid zenith
#

When I have the trauma blaze going it's really bad, they have a hard time lining up on all the downed targets.

sturdy sluice
#

Well we'd probably want at least 10 missions across different maelstrom modifiers

near wyvern
#

@frigid zenith you Americas or EU?

frigid zenith
#

USEAST.

clear heath
#

I'm down to join too btw

frigid zenith
#

I'm at work now, but I'm for sure down to play.

sturdy sluice
#

Idk the chi squared tbale off the top of my head but you generally are going to need a few trials to achieve statistical significance unless the difference is massive

frigid zenith
#

We'll hook up.

pale remnant
#

Hey fellers whats the good stats you want for a mark 5 psyker sword

frigid zenith
#

Need 100 game minimum for base statistics.

harsh urchin
#

loser has to type a 500 word apology post

#

make sure u tag me

#

when u post it

frigid zenith
#

Win or lose, gun psyker is still a meme.

harsh urchin
#

no it's not

#

if u lose

#

ur the meme

frigid zenith
#

MFer, I know I'm a meme, that isn't the issue here.

#

You're out of your element.

olive ember
#

eh I don't believe in dps anyways

#

all I do is warp charge smite

#

kekw

#

the entire game

#

only smite

frigid zenith
#

Hell yeah.

#

smite boy, best boy.

near wyvern
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@frigid zenith if you have time on Saturday 21:30 - Sunday 01:00 UTC+2 I can come play on east servers, I am from EU but hopefully ping will not be too bad.

harsh urchin
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disgusting eu scum

ornate hamlet
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ive been reusing obscurus

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its not bad

harsh urchin
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don't touch me

ornate hamlet
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i think its slightly better depending on peoples playstyle than the new ones

harsh urchin
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paper straw using, vegan non-meat eating, eu scum

frigid zenith
clear heath
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my money's on pygex cause the gun has a speed advantage for shooting barrels

frigid zenith
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lol

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Gotta have 3 gun psykers and one normal psyker.

coarse bane
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of overboard vegans either.

sturdy sluice
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I've seen a lot more annoying about meat regular folk than annoying about not eating meat vegans

frigid zenith
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Be a vegan, sure, but don't pretend that humans didn't evole into what we are because we learned to cook meat.

sturdy sluice
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Cooking vegetables was as if not more important since it opens up a lot of calories

frigid zenith
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don't get me started sir.

sturdy sluice
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Depends on how you view importance of history in terms of cascading effects though

frigid zenith
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There's a reason humans evolved with incisors and canine teeth.

sturdy sluice
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Because the base platform had incisors and canines and meat is a useful source of protein/amino acids

near wyvern
sturdy sluice
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I love human evolution and general academic discussion, so like, please get started

still hearth
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Mods

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Psyker chat is talking about human evolution again

sturdy sluice
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Wait why mods, I am not being sarcastic

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I seek discussion

frigid zenith
frigid zenith
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Cooking things yeilds more calories, cooking meat yeilds a shit ton more calories.

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The people that do this for a living believe cooking meat lead to the true development of our brains as they are now.