#psyker-class
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Like 10~15 mins maelstrom games with his bois.
So he's rich af and super high lvl.
I was actually thinking about to run some ordo runs xD
Good for them, I suppose
But I play the game for plasteels so I check every corner.
I can't do speedrun and bypass them sweet plasteels.
I am stuck due to ordos now xD
Can be fren if you play on europe server. I don't like playing high ping. 
Idk what a Europe is
We talking about the reject Dotnl?
NA lol
Why I don't play with him often.
So Idk what he does. 
His darktide hours. Probably quite a lot of afk hours but still.
okay wtf did they do to deimos, first time using it in 2 weeks, and it knocks anything on its back on a headshot H2
He uses the old first attack mod that made you do first attack but faster than humanly possible, he also uses auto dodge, and he abuses bugged skips to skip parts of the maps just to flex with his level
Oh yeah he does a lot of map bug skips things.
He's uhhh... he's also pretty fuckn bad
It was like always, i caMe back to dt at patch 13 and it was that...
I don't like it cos rip plasteels.
the people that use it are def orgyn level of intellect
I've played with him before an he would run off, die, reconnect, rinse an repeat
I try to finish my game asap while picking plasteels. Ideally if the game goes smooth it's under 30 mins. Sometimes I get the meme 40 mins + maelstrom games though.
single hit to crusher shouldnt have thrown him off to the side behind the bulwhark like that, they are litereally leaping to the side right now
all the deimos i got are so bad π
Ye, sounds about right xD
Solo collected i hope?
Seems to be this weird thing where if people notice others grabbing mats, they just stop picking them up assuming they're gonna get grabbed. Its rather annoying :/
Yeah just by myself.
That's allot, i usually have like 250-300...
I got 505 plasteels by myself in a maelstrom game.
ive never had this happen before, its hands down the best cc sword because of this
605 here
Also best single* target dps too xD
SONGLE TARGET
My record plasteels.. 
nah the MK IV dueling sword is still way better for that
Not sure about that, but i have no solid proof, so i would not push my point π
you can 3 shot a crusher with a DS IV., Deimos is 4shot
hmm it does seem to be, but the throwback wheverr you poke a head makes it very annoying to chain headshots
True, but in circumstances where you have teammates usually h2 is enough
nono, even if you have to spend forever repositioning and winding-up/charging, the only thing that counts is the number of thrusts/casts :>>
hmm i think ill stick to DS, that throwback on H2 is annoying
who the hell is meleeing a crusher
I think all stick to ds bcuz ot has bugged rampage
And uh... Well speed addicts...
i use this π
Crit to head doth win it
cause they chain together as long as you keep clicking heads
The emperor protects (from one hit kill maul)
It's pretty safe with duelling sword.
Even safer with penis sword π
Deimos it too fiddly for me.
Aye. Heavy 1 on mk4 ds against charging mutie is so much easier than heavy 2 on deimos.
I liked deimos for h2 but mk4 kinda just does the same thing faster
and now I cant even crab wlk anymore
h2 deimos is easy due to how long you can hold it
Mk4 is undoubtedly stronger but it just sorta feels limp for me
for like 2 seconds
Even if it takes two H2 from MK 4 duely, I prefer that tbh.
I always soften up the mutie before heavy 1 with mk4 ds.
I do like the pushes on force swords tho
also I'd rather have the mk4 poke than the deimos charge attack
A few left click from staff.
Or a few assail,
I think my mk4 ds does 90% damage to mutie head.
So I only need to very softly weaken the mutie.
Yeah. That's the better way to go.
just right click with void once and its always a kill with basically no aiming needed 
maybe one day ill be assed to get a +mutie mk4
but I dont really super need it I feel lke
I like to joust with the muties. Doesn't work all of the time tho.
sure would be neat but meh
No buff it has this much left.
alredy pretty effortless
Because of skill issue.
So a few left click from staff and it's ez 1 shot.
^
since they take way too long for the size of groups they come in to ever really melee
Mine is pretty good I think. 
i think its great as a allrounder kind of thing
its just worse than the other ones 
obscurus living up to its name
nah i think its actually better in some way
do tell
how your able to horde clear and also do single target damage pretty well
its fast good animation
now thats 100% a subjetive thing coming up
lol
if you use heavy alot and use light when your horde clearing its arguably
just as good as the new ones
I use to like demois before they amped up the number of ragers
now id rather not get animation locked
run illsi with void, scryer and BB
I don't like the locked animation that deimos and obscurus have.
have a tool for every situation
they should have given obscurus some sort of innate delfector buff or something
I this good @bleak tulip I don't play voidstrike.
ye
With tru aim.
With the force sword block obstructing vision so much, deflector should be built in.
did they change surge?
uhhhhhh maybe it a lot of stacks of shit
It can
itll be kinda close now
If you go 20% or more carapace dmg
yeah I dont have cara buff and it doesnt anymore for me
Has this much left.
yeah thats about right
What's good perks then?
Unarmoured to 1 shot dreg gunner?
nah you can alraedy one shot em with half charge or so I think
maybe a little optimistic but you dont need unarmored thb
flak is good because that apparently also applies to maulers, I couldnt get the head hit to count as carapace for some reason
I dont do super much testing myself tho
maulers are flak armored in the chest
yeah but void can headshot
so it SHOULD hit cara but it doesnt seem to for me when I tried it
or with warp charges or DD
personally I run either of those
for damage
DD is nice because weakspot damage, think that counts
Oh yeah I'm running ep cos I use assail with this build.
Since tru aim with assail is op.
but warp is more consistent and comfy for venting
Voidstrike is so hard I go back to plasma gun on vet. 
still 16%, might give you breakpoints

I'm not that much of a meatgrinder goblin like you or arco so I cant give you the exact stats, I mostly vibe
My Voidstrike
any other damage buffs?
I gotta run, gonna go home and I can go check my shit I guess
Hrm looks like high warp at least.
probably perfect timing stacks
if you run DD, you can hit ogryn one-shots without relevant perks
My comfy build is assail handcannon abusing. 
Skill issue

I used to hate DD but its my favourite keystone now
my horde deleter
does DD have any peril generation resistance

might try it with scrier and a stzff
Nah except it has a node which gives it a 20% chance to quell 15 on dd kill
that ones pretty bad tbh
and thats a point you want for assail bounce if youre doing that
that ones
prettybad tbh
it's not bad if you're doing assail/void spam tho
WS already has to sacrifice that point to get to vampire
Can get lucky and hit a unhighlighted DD target by accident lulw
you kill marked targets so inconsistently all things considered that it also being a 20% chance only is just
yeah
bad
yeah but that means 9/10 youre already full toughness when it triggers
Toughness or perill
sad
okay so I tested it and yeah
right click void on mauler headshot counts as flak
I wasnt crazy
left click correctly gives cara
Hey guys you now the Shards for the Psyker?
do u always run surge with smite or run the voidy with smite?
Ive been trying smite
cause i wanna void but i wanna try smite
and kinda miss assail
i love the void
same i love assail
with EP procs
literally wiped like 15 gunner in a pack in 2 seconds with the reset
but people seem to want smite
mosty just used assail for toughness regen on trash or when shooters are too spread out or sort of in cover so I dont have to pick at em one void at a time but yeah
also quick switching
when going in and out of melee
i love shooting all the charges maxing out my peril softening up elites and stuff then whipin out the void for some Big D dmg and perilous procs
fast and smooth
#psyker-class message seeing this post made me wanna try it because I am a big creeping flame enjoyer too but idk
gotta give it more time to cook in my brainpan so I actually use it more and better
for blaze trauma users, do you guys take wildfire?
Yes, but its real impact is quite ambiguous, with no good measuring methods being available currently
And itβs been quite broken since it was originally released pre patch 13
Both can be good if you can keep peril high for tanking that Warp Nexus Crit chance
Wildfire is plain mediocre, it at best splits the stacks evenly across all mobs nearby, so in general everything gets 1 stack when an adjacent mob die while on fire
are these the right blessings, if so, what am i doing with the perks?
Crit Chance + Flak I believe is the standard Perk setup for Purgy
So 4 warp charges seem to be enough to 1 shot dreg gunner. Not a hard feat to do.
holy
@winged phoenix what sort of build are people running with it? bb, venting, warp siphon?
Yes
Personally im running Smite - Vent - Warp stacks for Auric Damnation.
I just prefer Smite for those "Oh shit thats a lot of carapace" moments.
i havent used vent in a while, dome is just too good
ty
I have a meme keystone less purg build but it's not great.
vent is good, but both versions of the shield are just too nice to have
Purg just does too slow dps against elites and specials.
yeh, generally if i play fire, im gonna be frontline
Yeah exactly, your role is more horde control.
You can do everything purg does with blaze trauma and better.
thanks daddy melk for deciding to give me this in my store today
No u
(It's mostly true)

No no, don't nerf, buff the other staves! Surge on Surge staff please.
Lmao
Buff Purgatus to trauma levels
Let me do 500 DPS beam

To all armor types too
Sounds good
actually we dont really have an equivalent of Beam staff in this game do we
i miss it
but ig i can just boot up vt2 if i really want
is there any way to fix this staff? I have access to surge 4
With that staff you can only go the flurry + quell route
What's that mean? I'm new to psyker
Oh ok.
And preferably +5% Crit chance perk
You could replace both blessings for Surge and Nexus
but you'd miss the 5% crit
I feel like with tru aim you don't have to pick nexus.
Making it suboptimal
what are the best perks for a fire wand?
im italian so idk the name of it in english
sorry
I just need something that can get me started with doing normal damnation
huh smite spreads more than i thought
Purgatus Staff
warp flurry (decreased charge time on secondary attack) 100%
is it hard to find?
Perks not blessings
and then probably warp nexus (increased crit chance based on peril)
I mean it just guarantees a crit every 5 hits, you dont get 5 stacks from one shot is the thing
nono i mean blessings,sorry
its just my bad terms cuz idk english that much
because critical hits inflict twice as much soulblaze
You get multiple stacks from 1 assail I'm pretty sure it's the same with voidstrike if you hit multiple heads.
thanks,will try to get them
(at least not usualy
)
yeah but hitting all heads is hard
since the run cycles fuck with it
idk I like having more crit for those time im spamming into mauler pockets
Easiest build imo is assail handcannon
Do you hit head or body against mauler?
Don't promote builds that use bugs to function...
I want to complete the Malleus Monstronum penance, but I have no idea how. can you give me any advice on that?
you can aim for chest too if youre too close because then the surge hit is more likely to hit something behind
depends. to my knowledge nexus and flurry both exist at a range of tiers so it's not exclusive to high tier blessings, but you'll want the highest tier which might be a bit difficult to get. usually the best way to get them is to find a green or grey purgatus staff with good stats and a high base stat total (<370), then use Hadron to consecrate it up to orange rarity because that has a good chance of giving you level 3 or 4 blessings (though this can get expensive)
the other option is to check melk's store every day to see if he's selling a purgatus staff with either blessing that you can take off and put on a better purg staff (must be a purg staff, because you can't transfer blessings between different kinds of staffs)
ok,thanks for letting me understand everything :)
correction it does now 
after a certain amount of charge
in that case keep it head height for trash but full charge @plucky flax

btw, when looking for a staff, you defintely want one with a high burn stat, because being able to get up to 15 stacks of burn is very important
That's the 90% boss damage?
guess with full charge you get past mauler hitmass or something
Yeah
dunno abuot the calculations for that tho
Ask an Ogryn for help
They can afk tank a daemonhost with shield
Then just take forever doing it
burn and cloud radius because cloud radius lets you hit enemies further away. then probably damage and lowest priority is quell speed
Any special level I should prefer or something? Like special condition or similar?
And what about the Bots? They will shoot it, wont they?
Damage is the dumpstat on purg
headshot full staggers them, chest doesnt
tradeoff
It has to be a prviate mission too
Uhh. Hab Drayko can be fast. If you want confirmed DH you play lights out.
I don't know if you even have to finish the mission or just kill it
Just hit head against everything then. 
It's just the kill that matters
No finish, just the kill, yea
Anything else is extra plasteel
You can let bots die or have more friendlies
you can get a 100% guarenteed boss on the consignment yard mission
it will always spawn at the end of teh mission
then just find 3 friends to play shield ogryn for you with taunt
that way they can facetank boss aggro while you brainburst
nice tips, thank you all
does it need to be brainburst damge? or any damage
its time
was thinking about trying Laspistol, anyone have Blessing recommendations? have one with Dumdum and Raking fire atm but im not sure about Raking fire being worth it over something like infernus or ghost
if its any damage, use a purgatus staff and then creeping flames venting shriek to get like 20 stacks of soulblaze on the monster and deal a gazillion damage per tick
any damage 90%, then finish with brain burst
yeah so you can use the soulblaze stacking tactic to make it go faster
nice, will do that!
who is your pfp they look like ryoshu
Melk melked out this devil claw. I don't have one - now i want one for parry and lulz. Should i grab this one? Looks not half-bad.
so gun-psyker viable or nah?
yeah
It's live choice
but Ill judge you
i am tired of lighting and flame staffs
try void 
Trauma then π
Blazing Nexus Trauma and you forget about existence of guns
Revolver or Vraks 3/7
fuck yeah
wat do wit dis
Probably Flak imo
I'd keep run n gun and swap perks
Flurry is minimal on Purgatus
It just saves you some peril pretty much
(And run n gun secretly gives damage)
rate for gun psyker
You want surgical on 7 instead of headhunter I think
But that's a sick roll
does flurry stack with either attack?
the synergy looks better with deadly accurate tho
secondary as it says
Not anymore afaik
or wdym
lmao
Stack Flurry by twirling your staff
And back then Flurry had 5 stacka
So it was even better
But you can just do some quick RMB cancels
If you want to stack Flurry
Min charge, release, swap weapons, repeat
basically no staff reached 5 stacks tho really
does it do more damage if i fully charge purge?
Old surge lmao
yeah and only if you spammed it which was super bad on void back then
Nope
since then you really did no damage
had a lvl 23 psyker join hi shock
yeah purg is great to just start wish short charge
its times like those I low key wish you could show total player level across all characters as an option for truelevel
decide if I'm mad or sorry for the guy
enjoy the soulblaze
Let's try 2nd brick of the day....
If you wanted to see things then you should've tuned down your settings
Brunt .. you a-hole! Bricked beforte i even took it Hadron

62% blast radius is to clip toe nails...
Will do. Now Lets truly. BIRCK IT. HEy Hadron you old rust bucket - here i come!
Another Brick
As foretold
should i change anything?
can trauma even hit wp
Trauma is one of the strongest weapons in the entire game, no need.
Not the AoE
oh the lmb attack lol
And melee swings
Dodge duration doesn't work. I'd personally never run this so idk. What's your build for
Nothing else in the game clears patrols or literally anything like trauma with blaze crits.
trauma gets surge to I think 
gun psyker ofc
also only works on left click
I'm out of Plasteel anyway - can't afford anothe bricked Trauma for a while
Uhh. Run CDR aura
amazing
It was like 6 bricked Traum staffs in row
cdr aura?
I think I rolled 40+ trauma staves until I got an ok one.
left click only auric run when
Battle Meditation won't proc often enough to matter probably
pykers with guns is a meme.
featuring surge traum left click spam
it's strong, but with a staff you're WAY stronger, hence, meme.
can I introduce you to
meme away though.
Not necessarily stronger just different
i am already way beyond playing strong meta builds
Trauma is nowhere near meta.
What
?
R u high
I've seen like 4 people use it.
Voidstrike and Trauma is the meta rn
Everyone else is using surge.

@frigid zenith yes such a meme...
I am guilty of it.
There's no in game meta
damage numbers don't really mean much.
Too much powers
I can sit in a game forever and farm hordes too.
Yeah just CC things
I ended up blowing myself up a few times
Damage doesn't matter guys
i use warp charge surge/smite

thats why theres a timer at the top telling you how much "farming" was going on 
Damage does matter, just saying it totally depends on your group, the missing, your playstyle.
I will miss this op surge staff once it is patched.
I don't think they should patch it.
Just copiuming for a good roll on voidstrike in the mean time
I won't. I'll just never use it
If they won't patch it, it will be my main i guess lol
Even bugged surge staff can't keep up with trauma on D5A missions.
no u 
Single target damage
Shit, even purge voidtrike beats it.
why u gotta do this
its fiiiiiiine one shots crusher

Huh ? Trauma is good ?
Always has been
Only thing that beats pure voidstrike is trauma.
smoke staff when
For some reason
your xbox is showing
lol
Which force sword i should be using ? I am mainly using force sword for defensive since i am mostly in surge staff
They took it from smite already

Illisi
Obscurus is never the right choice
Huh. didn't even know there is 2 different force sword until you said it lol
deimos
fun fact, theres three
There's three
3
i like deimos
Had been using that obscurus since launch lol
Shi
deimos has crazy good damage, get that with deflector.
The deimos is basically a better obscurus if you like it
laugh at ranged damage.
Hmm what is the combos i should be using on illisi then ?
Pull out staff and kill before they get to you combo.
Or if it's a maniac pull out your mk4 dualing sword and one shot them.
uncanny is good too
You can check the atheneum in the pinned messages for all the ideal weapon setups
Oh i mean like eh weapon combo. like say if i am surroudned by horde, do i like heavy and something ?
ahh ok
surge staff, how to think you are strong
mfw psyker uses surge staff against bosses lmao
Why tf everyone is using staffs
There is a lot of interesting weapons with much more potential
because we're playing psyker (gunkers exist and are valid too though)
What is this
i dont need 4 people using guns
4 level 30s noob
Bruh
doesn't that include urself? unless 5 player lobby
Speak normaly dumahh
I'm live watching a trainwreck
Idk fr, maybe
But guns are kinda overall better...
lol tell me you dont use void or truama without telling me
Firearms actually have more firepower than an iron stick shooting ass balls or blue smurf diarrhea
what, they're just different playstyles...?
@wheat storm #veteran-class
Guns are bad, REAL psykers use revolvers and knifes πͺ
Nah
I aint playing veteran
this fucking troll gtfo
But I don't want to take ammo from my team.
real psykers use shovel stolen from veteran
renegade captain does have flak 
Idk why guns are bad if I can solo whole mission with 3 ppl afking
Psykers had their shotguns stolen and then given to the vets and zealots
The fucking zealots smh
Dude I feel so bad when i grab ammo as a psyker it does self inflicted mental damage
starter shovel based
Laspistol IS good
15% morale boost
No other class gets to use the staff, not sure why you'd give up that utility when a vet can do the gun job better and not run out of ammo.
Gotta save the ammo for gun Luther big bois
I only use gunker in regular Damnation when I am farming plasteel.
Lugger*
+70% toughness regained from hit
Yeah it's my for fun weapon lol
Gunker is fun if you want to switch things up
The machine gun ogyrns chew through ammo so quickly
Or if I get a team of psykers and can hog the ammo.
Truly a war power
we all know the inherit stats of the las pistol
It's for shovel
Hell Iβd bring two staves if I could lol
Pistol crit build ftw
bruh just joined the discord and thinks everyone hasnt done the research
Just wanna confirm as long as I have EP talented nomanus will do nomanus things even if I don't have stacks?
Don't need ammo when everything is trying to get up from being knocked over with trauma explosions.
Im dealing 3k dps to an armored ogryn without even having a buff for armored enemies so
And its not even a finished pistol
meat grinder video or didnt happen
Just got one from the emperor and using it, that's all
v i d e o or didnt happen
Scryer lends itself to gunker, saying psyker should never use guns is an odd take
The dps of a trauma blaze staff on a patrol of crushers is unmatched.
Stfu, im not home rn
then dont make wild claims
K
Imperial
You can't just believe that pistol is better than ur shitty ass staff
Even a common one
you need a stack but the surge staff doesn't consume em
you cant just walk in here and think we dont know the game
Imperiums empirical imperial evidence.
Without any upgrades
fucking noob
Multiple viable builds and their condequences. By theodoroum Kazonus
why are we yelling at each other?
psyker chat moment
first roll
People argue their build is good
i just hope i don't get screwed on blessings
thats more of a zealot chat moment tbh
noice
We aren't yelling. THIS IS YELLING.
it's all telepathic don't worry about it
guy thinks he knows better than the data we have recorded and learned already
Cuz I said that blaze staff is mid
Others argue they are bad
you said staves not blaze
don't forget to change your first blessing to a t4 shitty one and your first perk to a t4 shitty one before upgrading
Yeah. Except an Auric Damnation that lasts 30min isn't much farming hordes when you have half of the team's elite kills as well and around the same boss damage as the three others (with fourth not dealing much)...
But you know. Must be useless thing. Why even kill things, just stagger your way to the valk.
what
That's op man I hope rng is kind.
What are you going on about again? I already forgot.
that way you can't get the shitty perk or shitty blessing when you go to purple and orange
the talent support for gun psyker is just pretty bad. scrier's is just terrible due to it using the new volleyfire design even after it was reverted for vet, and DD straight up doesnt work
increases your chance of getting a good 2nd perk and blessing, then you can just change them out to the ones you like
im hoping i can make my blazing spirts build work it
get the crit chance on power up and etc
You stated gun Paykers are useless, I posted a pick carrying the team, you claimed I was simply farming hordes.
The fools brought a stick to a gunfight
Blud, just go, and find a friend or smth, get a life, touch grass, feel the touch of a gracefull sun that shines every day, feel happiness, why would you spend all your time seating in front of your pc screen and just arguing for no particular reason because someone is "discowd" Said that weapon in game that u glaze is purely mid and other weapons have a chance to be good too, go talk to your family or friends, find yourself a pet, spend time reading books
tldr

Really though I feel like the fact different builds are trying to do different things is lost to us all sometimes
Idiot
Staves have their place, guns have their place. The only thing on a big weaker side is Purge especially since it doesn't stagger Crushers and Scab Ragers with LMB anymore but even that is perfectly usable at Auric Damnation.
you can do 4k+ dps to a reaper with a laspistol, probably what he means
doesn't this server have rules regarding what this dude is doiing
on a side note best maps for warp battery?
Oh that, I said gun psykers are a meme. If you're having fun with it, you do you. There's more utility and damage to be had with a staff, that's all I'm saying.
Revolver ocelot psyker remains peak aesthetic tho
Maybe
Didn't read
this feels like very pointless argument
I'm saying what that guy deserves
Yup
with the high noon mod its chefs kiss
what did i walk in to?
Having DPS is not a meme. If your team has enough control why make the match last 40min.
gun psyker can be good but it can be better if you ask me
people getting heated over guns vs staves again?
Common discord server
i think the las pistol is one of the best weapons for a psyker
least argumentative psyker chat
Shoot bullet, it goes through 5 dudes, kills a poxhound and detonates a barrel, throwing zealot over edge
that or a revolver
Truly the most glorious option
Whicks claiming gun Paykers are a meme, which they definitely aren't.
I just said that guns are good too, but some no life kid started argument
lol
Laspistol has psyker shove therefore cool AF
If you want to look for memes make a tac axe melee Psyker
you said staves were bad dont twist it. and youre on the same server arguing so i dont get your point when it applies to yourself
Tac axe slander here?
Tldr
Why are you upset that the weapon that psykers were designed for is what they use the best?
if you want a meme, make a obcursus force sword pysker
not as bad as yours lmao
Kidding I only use dueling and force
Itdr
also didnt take me ages to write i saw your ellipses
Cause your claim is completely false.
I use handcannon revolver to buff assail and never shoot my gun. Now that's meme.
Malefic Momentum screams for weaving with gun and Assails.
Devs added guns for psykers for a reason
Crucian roulette tactics

Frok
Yeah, they designed them around the staff then someone in a meeting was probably like... "Well, people might get bored if they can only use these things, lets let them have guns too!".
@frigid zenith beat this with a staff
https://youtu.be/fk7aL3DA9Dk
psyker pulls trigger on gun, unrelated crusher's head brainbursts
I like to imagine thats how that perk works
Staves are boring af for real
then play a vet.
I like psyker abilities
Hold on bro, lemme get this boss to hold perfectly still for me in a real game while I test this out.
Itt: people use a different build than you do
And I like restoring all my toughness for one click
I knew this would be your argument
Does weapons buff actually apply to assail
Cause I remember wanting to try blazing piety with the crit from a force sword and then not it not working on assail
Then... Don't play staves? It's not being forced on you to use them
People enjoy them, they can use them
Hold on bro, lemme wait for the perfect game where nothing else happens and there are no other mobs on the entire map while I test this out.
There is no argument.
Staves are obviously viable
A viable meme.
Was there an arguement? I just came lol
I think it should be pretty obvious that the gun does more boss dps than staves
anything a psyker can do with a gun another class can do better.
the orginal argument which started all of this was a blanket statment that staves were bad
considering our staves actually suck against bosses
and they are not
Sure guns have superior continuous damage vs single target, pretty much all staves do aoe
void strike slaps bosses.
Real
Then just play another class, it's a horde hack and slash game with no rankings or leaderboards
The goal is just to have fun, not be better than anybody else
if I want to play a mid class but I find it fun, why not
I'm just saying guns on a psyker are a meme, Im not knocking people for doing it.
ok
I have been able to melee a plogryn in a corner during a horde when the team is watching for nothing to enter. With laspistol you can do it twice as fast than with melee. Plus it's great against elites and specials.
I love the laspistol, just not on psykers.
Handcannon blessing on revolver is bugged and applies to melee or assail crit.
Noice
On all classes that can use revolver.
if i want boss dps specifically id jump on my zealot
I am pretty sure Psyker can get the highest bonus damage than Vet with Scrier's + DD
Psyker has higher baseline crit
For like 4 seconds.
Its good for weapons that rely on crit
30
And talents lend to it
With some guns it's 100% because of true aim
Get your numbers right
las scriers with dd is pretty good
your more then likely to only get a uptime of 15 seconds with schier gaze active
Just accept that guns on a psyker are a meme.
They aren't
100%

Meme land.
You just can't accept they are not a meme
What does that even mean? We are going in circles
You're the only one who thinks it
even when im cleaving through a horde with a sword, i only get up to like 20 seconds
My dad is cooler than your dad and he said psyker guns are a meme.
And are spreading false information like an infested heretic
You can clear auric maelstrom id say no build is a meme tbh
Bro I don't even know.
Handcannon assail is definitely a good meme.
you can clear AM with grey crap if you know what you're doing.
It's incredibly op. 

Doesn't change the fact the gun psykers are a meme.
Why do people always complain about gun Psyker, but never gun Zealot? Just one time I want to see a Zealot get flamed for using a revolver
I am too reliant on regenning toughness with peril gen/quell and warp kills
its knife zealots not gun
Soo guns are no go for me at psyker
And thats fine
Because Revolver is OP?
It's becasue we feel sorry for the zealot.
our third archetype is even called gunslinger
Doesn't this mean that any build is viable and nothing is a meme lol
The zealot can't make crusher patrols disappear like psykers can.
We are learning, aren't we.
wot lul
Is Whicks MemeMastodon
Mettle restores like 40% toughness per second with the Columnus
But you say gunker is a meme?
For sure.
what's a meme mastodon
how strong does something have to be to not be a meme?
The real question is, are you having fun?
Anything worse than Purgatus is a meme
and smoke grenades
Recon guns are still ass tbf
but pew pew
But eh ... those need god rolls no ? Meanwhile i can slap on most staffs and just regen toughness with them even if they are profane weapon because talents
If you had a tank if real like, took off the cannon and put a .50 cal sniper rifle in it's place would you say that's a good use of that tank?
Nope. Just take True Aim and shoot heads
You are also immune to ranged attacks
mobile perch
The closest thing Psyker has to a cannon is the revolver
ahh there is my problem. skill issue lol
But it's basically a meme, it was not intended for that use? Will it work? Maybe, but you've lost something there, a core design flaw. That's like psykers with a gun in this game. Yes, it works, but literally anything else with that gun does that job better in some way. By doing the role of something else on a class not even designed for it, even though you can get some decent damage numbers up there, you're still a meme.
It doesn't though
Have you ever used a void strike staff?

Literally a suborbital ion cannon.
Psyker does more damage with guns than Zealot. I have no idea where this is coming from
im just going to keep reiterating that its not a meme anymore
pre patch 14 it would be
psykers with guns are no sibling of mine.
I like the way you think.
Shredder/Revolver Psyker were some of the best builds pre patch too. Gun Psyker has always been real
Idc what they bring as long as they are good
shredder was busted by itself tho, and revo has always held a meme status even before the buff
Yeah Shredder AB was a funny one
Hold on guys, lemme load up WoW and see if I can't find this undead mage a gun.
I miss Shredder
That's what Gandalf was missing, a mk5IAG.
It was silly
Try Columnus, it's the new Shredder and works even on a bit further ranges when you ADS
just use agri brauto
When are they going to give Psykers brauto though
well psyker doesn't have brautos
right?!
Point: Gunker
Columnus is almost a brauto tho
is meme
the mk5IAG is fucking silly on a vet.
Recon lasguns would need something for their ammo economy, the damage is good but chews up ammo so fast
Too bad it doesn't work as well with Venting Shriek as the Shredder did with AB
Everything dies at all ranges.
did they buff the columnus a lot or something? Been seeing a lot of people mention it
Void staff the basic all rounder?
what did they do with it?
buffed the entire line I think.
That and everyone figured out that True Aim gives it 100% crit
More damage, ammo, clip size.
Be amazed, Dumdum increases soulblaze damage and also gains stacks from soulblaze ticks. If you unload assails to get 6 stack ult off and unload your gun twice during the blaze you can chew 1/2 of chaos spawn HP away.
The issue is mostly getting to 85% peril
4.4 seconds with assails
That the time it takes to unload a whole clip
Columnus chews quite fast
Do you know what the difference in damage is between base soulblaze damage and fully boosted on a crusher is?
Against horde you do the same but only dump a single clip. Your gun kills also trigger Malefic Momentum and crits put up Perfect Timing so that blaze hits quite hard.
Let me think.
I don't think I could give up making entire hordes disappear with one or two shots of trauma or void.
If the soulblaze damage gets totally wild with dum dum I might consider it though for the meme factor.
I wrote this one so what would I know about rending stacking with +armour damage perks and power where all of them are multiplied instead of additive...
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959
Venting Shriek is just better. It takes 0s to cast and kills all the normal enemies.
It just has a CD
I can't think of a situation outside of a boss fight where I'd want a gun to set off soulblaze stacks.
im just gonna say staves are not bad, and ima go. have fun yall
Well yeah, but I'm talking about killing a horde and the you're going to vent on whatever ain't dead, or the next horde.
You are probs looking at a 12 stack blaze here (trauma / void cap 6 plus 6 from Creeping Flames). Brittleness caps at 40%, Soulblaze has 0.1 armour mod against crushers so that's a 0.5 multiplier. 12 stacks tick damage rounded up is 119 so 119 * 0.5 for 11 ticks is 654 damage and then you have a tick per stack that falls off so 654 damage in 8 seconds, maybe 800 damage in 12 seconds... Crushers have 3.6k HP. Yeah it's not that. It's either perilous combustion from other elites/specials or the direct damage of Trauma/Void. The blaze is not the one doing the work here.
Real talk on gun psyker though. Depending on the teammates. Im seeing 700-1.5 damage in AMs with a staff build. With gun, it's funny but maybe 500-900. I feel like I apply way more damage and have way more util with the staff.
It is very good. You use dagger to line up the boss with the horde, ult away and while you DPS the boss, the horde dies.
queues up in HISTG Auric to work on warp battery
veteran says he wants to look for grims and keeps on wandering off and dyign

Did they find the grims
Destroy the evil gun psykers.
whats this little exclimation mark mean?>
Civil War!
Says the one who claims blaze trauma is destroying crushers with soulblaze π
It's everything above.
what you don't knock over and kill outright is gonna die soon after to soulblaze.
the durability is low, you need to spend ordos to repair it /s
What else in the game can CC and dish out that much damage?
Not CC but more damage yes
Staves all bring control and damage in some form
Guns bring a ton of damage
If your team already has control
Sure, while you have ammo.
You need more damage
The only place you're gonna win the gun argument on DPS is against a boss.
I can go with my Columnus through Auric Damnation without ever running out ammo if there is a vet with the ammo aura. If there isn't, I only need a leftover or two when all the others are full on ammo.
Accounting for the AoE damage on staff it's not really a contest.
Guns kill priority targets faster, which explode in soulblaze doing AoE
What about those pug games when there's no ammo vet and you have others using guns? You still taking a gun on the psyker?
I have yet to see a staff psyker out DPS my gun build. So far only a single brauto veteran and a single kickback ogryn have done it.
And you can always just Assail hordes, it works great with guns
I only play pugs so yes
I take the ammo that others don't
Ping like crazy and if all run past it I pick it up
I just have a different experience than you, I have yet to see a psyker with a gun come anywhere close to my damage in a AM mission.
maybe you guys should play together and see who does more damage
maybe you guys should do a mission together and post the scoreboard afterwards
settle this
once and for all
LOL
same brain cell
When I have the trauma blaze going it's really bad, they have a hard time lining up on all the downed targets.
Well we'd probably want at least 10 missions across different maelstrom modifiers
@frigid zenith you Americas or EU?
USEAST.
I'm down to join too btw
I'm at work now, but I'm for sure down to play.
Idk the chi squared tbale off the top of my head but you generally are going to need a few trials to achieve statistical significance unless the difference is massive
We'll hook up.
Hey fellers whats the good stats you want for a mark 5 psyker sword
Need 100 game minimum for base statistics.
Win or lose, gun psyker is still a meme.
eh I don't believe in dps anyways
all I do is warp charge smite
kekw
the entire game
only smite
@frigid zenith if you have time on Saturday 21:30 - Sunday 01:00 UTC+2 I can come play on east servers, I am from EU but hopefully ping will not be too bad.
disgusting eu scum
don't touch me
i think its slightly better depending on peoples playstyle than the new ones
paper straw using, vegan non-meat eating, eu scum
We'll hook up at some point either way, we can test to see who has better ping where and play that server.
my money's on pygex cause the gun has a speed advantage for shooting barrels
Saying vegan and non meat eating is like saying wet water.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of overboard vegans either.
I've seen a lot more annoying about meat regular folk than annoying about not eating meat vegans
Be a vegan, sure, but don't pretend that humans didn't evole into what we are because we learned to cook meat.
Cooking vegetables was as if not more important since it opens up a lot of calories
don't get me started sir.
Depends on how you view importance of history in terms of cascading effects though
There's a reason humans evolved with incisors and canine teeth.
Because the base platform had incisors and canines and meat is a useful source of protein/amino acids
I did once with 3 staff Paykers and me playing the gun. I couldn't even spend the ammo in the pace I was allowed to pick it up.
I love human evolution and general academic discussion, so like, please get started
This is a crux of me saying the damage doesn't really matter earlier. It totally depends on your team. Bring 3 pure void strike surge shot psykers and see how long anything in LOS lives to apply your damage to.
incisors and canines are not considered vestigial. They are apart of our active life style and eating habbits and have been so since the begining.
Cooking things yeilds more calories, cooking meat yeilds a shit ton more calories.
The people that do this for a living believe cooking meat lead to the true development of our brains as they are now.







