psyker-class

[glossy ember]

to talk about something else: I unironically feel the one on the right is a LOT better to use than the one on the left, even though it shouldn't. Any idea why? I performed way better, and I didn't feel too bad losing 100% cleave buff somehow.

[plucky flax]

Maybe longer dodges and 5 dodges vs 4.

I want my infinite illisi dodges back.

[glossy ember]

yeah i kept getting fucked up by almost every melee units with the one on the left

the diff really shouldn't be that massive though?or maybe i underestimate those values

[dense bramble]

dodge limit

[rotund dagger]

Consecration #3
+20% Sprint Efficiency

Hadron don't do this to me

[strong gulch]

RIP crab.

https://tenor.com/view/funny-crab-knife-angry-gif-6042345

[rare storm]

I'm glad I got this game when this was still around

but now am sad

have to pay attention now

[plucky flax]

I did some goofy clutches back then with infinite dodges
https://youtu.be/ap3bX4C17Zk

Now its like oh shit I might not make it out of this

[rare storm]

[plucky flax]

Rip in pieces.

Must be from Germany or something.

[rare storm]

What does looking down and dodging do

or is that just for fun lol

[plucky flax]

It makes you go slightly faster.

[rare storm]

ooo interesting

[plucky flax]

If you stare down on the floor it shortens the delay before you can dodge again.

So the bestest crab walk was floor stare crab walk.

[glossy ember]

wtf didn't know that

[plucky flax]

Top 1% psyker movement tech.

But it's not really useful now without infinite dodges.

[rare storm]

Feel like I saw it somewhere on another clip, might be yours tho lmao

Does it only affect dodges with the force swords

or is it all weps lol

[plucky flax]

All weapons.

[glossy ember]

does height affect movement speed

i'm always last to the race

but i'm also verys hort

[robust drift]

When it comes to gunker I'm conflicted on which nodes to forgo. Consider dropping warp rider

[potent echo]

No

[tawny pebble]

i fall behind what i think are the veteran and ogryn regularly but that's just their perks or base nature i think

[potent echo]

Psyker can definitely match but you need to aim

Ogryn just click

[tawny pebble]

oh i meant running

[potent echo]

Oh lol

[tawny pebble]

though on that topic

[potent echo]

Psyker meta weapons all have move tech

So you just outrun them brrrr

[glossy ember]

hm

[potent echo]

Deimos is simple you just hold lmb

[tawny pebble]

well, i'm just barely trying to git gud

[potent echo]

You run faster

[tawny pebble]

oh shit

[potent echo]

If you to be fancy you just add a slide after the attack comes out

Yea you are speed

Duelling sword just sprint + lmb > slide repeat

[tawny pebble]

if i'm running smite/telekine shield would trauma or surge be better?

[potent echo]

Either is fine

Depends on gameplay

[mild iron]

What's the best build to do the brain burst at max warp charged penance? It's really annoying that they all wipe on using f skill

[potent echo]

If you like to yolo run in I would pick shriek or gaze

If you like to stick with the team (a mistake) yea take shield

[tawny pebble]

i hate this combo of penances lol

[tawny pebble]

expound if you could lol

does sticking together wipe the run too easily or something

[potent echo]

I feel that sticking together means there is a higher chance of stealing each other jobs

Like if a team of 4 sees a trapper everyone is gonna shoot it, leading to wasted ammo/dps etc

Might be easier if you split 2:2 and take the flanking path, you also spread out the threats, makes it easier to play imo

Depends on the map too I guess

[glossy ember]

does devil claw have anything

[tawny pebble]

yeah i typically at least make sure no one's alone

[potent echo]

No

[tawny pebble]

then again maybe i'm just not playing with competent enough people since i'm still in malice/heresy lol

[glossy ember]

[potent echo]

Other than your vanilla sprint slide

[tawny pebble]

i love that ogryn is like half the emotes in this server

[potent echo]

Yea might want to be close enough to rescue them from specials because you know they are gonna catch every single one of those

[tawny pebble]

yeah i have anti-sniper curios on just so i can rush in and shield from that shit

because reliably no one i pair with is ever able to hit them lol

then again maybe i need to get in a strike team on this server and see how actually coordinating would improve that

[potent echo]

I had an ogryn once that didn't know why we were losing, scream at everyone to stick, when in reality he was just bringing problems to the team instead of dealing with them himself

Like he would abandon a chokepoint to run to us, leading to the horde swarming the team

You press LMB, it does okay damage but can't compete with duels or FS

Brutal momentum

Also secret sauce is your heavy attack does less damage than your light attack

So never press it unless you are fighting bosses or ogryns

Yea go to the psyk and hit a mutant

Your heavy does less

It's meant as an anti carapace move or something 🤷‍♂️

Yep

You just lmb and push attack once in a while

Press the special to stagger ragers, even mutants stop on their tracks if you special their head lol

[cyan notch]

only on maniacs

heavy does more than light on everything else

it was bugged before and fatshark changed the light and heavy values around so heavy did more and people cried about it

so fatshark changed it back to make lights do more than heavies vs maniacs

[glossy ember]

unironically thinking that "mind in motion" might be usable for me...

like here, i feel i could've used it, but slide dodge does provide lots of mobility

but it wastes dodges at the same time, so might screw me over

[round summit]

does any of ur items increase dmg with assail or smite?

[hasty kraken]

Yknow, im wondering, what is the best anti-armor weapon that a psyker has?

Anti-armor and anti-bosses basically.

[lethal lagoon]

mk4 cutlass and revolver lmao

With or without bug

I've seen someone claim las pistol does "ok" boss damage and is probably psyker's best choice, but obviously then there's no anti-armor

Bosses just aren't for psykers

[tawny pebble]

yeah, i've had people try to tell me as zealot to let them BB the thing while I tank

[maiden hornet]

i like to use scrier's gaze with laspistol it's alright but it is quite a mag dump

or apply a lot of soulblaze with purgatus

[orchid shadow]

What action are you doing there that cancels your Surge into Quell?

[summer prairie]

grenade cancel

[orchid shadow]

This is new to me. Tell me more. 😛

[terse saffron]

do auras stack?

[summer prairie]

press g, 2 after attacking

[terse saffron]

like if the whole team is running prescience

[fierce crest]

I think the people with the auras get the effect twice

But if you're not running the aura you get it once

[terse saffron]

so not more than yours +1 extra?

cool, thanks

[summer prairie]

https://streamable.com/5dt24c

[celest hedge]

I just switched from warp charges to empowered psionics on my smite build and it's such a big difference, I didn't think it would be that good

[terse saffron]

do 360 every time you cansel so it looks even more funny

[glossy ember]

#psyker-class message

nade cancel

[orchid shadow]

Huh, great. One more thing to learn how to not fat finger. =/

[summer prairie]

with surge it's much easier than qq cancelling

[glossy ember]

i mean you don't have to do it

The only reason i do it is to nab elite kills for stacks

but also because scrier can't be sustained without

if uskng surge

[summer prairie]

might have to remap 2, but other than that it's easy

[celest hedge]

I've been having trouble finding a secondary weapon I liked with smite, but with powered psionics and the stack of psionics on elite kill, I actually have a reason to take out my surge staff, quick stack farming and great for conserving stacks too

[glossy ember]

I have 2-4 as my ranged - nade

[rustic oak]

Which voice for the psyker is the one we’re he’s talking about his dream and is mentally insane?

[celest hedge]

that's the seer

hte second one in the list

[fresh reef]

I spent 5000 melk bux on melee weapons today
exactly one of them had a T4 blessing lol

[maiden hornet]

just be mindful of the bug with surge, smite and ep

[summer prairie]

definitely seems like a much higher chance when upgrading to orange

[celest hedge]

i'm not aware of what the bug is and I haven't noticed anything with it

[orchid shadow]

I'm constantly hitting my F key trying that out. This'll be fun to remap. =/ Also, qq canceling? I feel like for as long as I've been in this channel, I'm still finding out new weird tech to learn.

[celest hedge]

guns you upgrade manually do seem to have better blessings than ones you can find in the normal shop, but plasteel is expensive

[summer prairie]

remap them to your mouse if you have spare buttons

[maiden hornet]

the EP buff on smite affects Surge staff, so it gives the whole 125% damage buff to your charge attacks without consuming a EP stack. As you can imagine you can basically one shot everything with the bug

[celest hedge]

ok yeah that's real busted. I was using surge staff since it was the best compliment to smite with EP

I just did my first game of it today and now I don't want to touch it until it finally gets fixed

[idle bay]

Qucik Questions:

1. Since when there is a Sustained Fire Blessing on Void?
2. How it works on Void? For LMB spam or RMB shots?

[maiden hornet]

I wanted to use EP smite and surge together as well but I can't because of the bugs last patch and this patch lol

[summer prairie]

one issue with grenade cancelling is if you do it too fast against a bulwark, you sometimes won't do any damage because he doesn't get staggered before the damage is applied

[steel flame]

It's just quell canceling but yeah it takes staves to anotha level

[summer prairie]

but you can't quell cancel surge

[steel flame]

Can with the m1

[summer prairie]

well that's not a surge specific action but sure

[glossy ember]

ohhhh that explains

[orchid shadow]

Welp, time to spend then next 30 minutes trying to remap keys to try this out..

[glossy ember]

quell cancelling m1 too hard for me mid panic

i don't have a practical use for it either outside of boss dps? maybe.

[idle bay]

Another BRICK in the wall.... i hate Hadron

[glossy ember]

also if you do nade cancelling you have 0 cc from surge so careful with doing that if you need the cc

overall i'd rate this tech "makes me feel like a crackhead" out of ten

[orchid shadow]

I use it for Snipers if I'm running Smite instead of BB. It's also for specific long range sight lines, like 2nd floor Oubliette 1st defense and Consignment Yard interrogation. You can really lock down adds coming out of their spawns and still cover close range danger areas.

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[glossy ember]

hmmm, so far i've just used regular speed m1 for that

i'll guve it a shot

[glossy ember]

woa

[drowsy scaffold]

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[blazing echo]

yeah, that feelings jealousy

[glossy ember]

I ought to download that mod... lmao

[maiden hornet]

Is that an Oar?

[blazing echo]

my 'force glaive'

[tawny pebble]

What is that replacing?

i do like the idea of a force oar though

foarce

[orchid shadow]

On Oubliette 1st defense, you can sit on the left side, with straight line of sight down the side and machinegun spam anything, and turn and look up to RMB specials on the bridge. You can essentially lock down all of the left side until it gets too hairy.

[blazing echo]

I think its Ogryn Blades replacing Force Staff Head

I made an Ogryn 'Eavy Bolta too, thats in Ogryn chat

[idle bay]

@summer prairie Can you do some clarification of Trauma staff?
How Blazing Spirit works for it's charged attack? And can it's charged attack crit at all?

[summer prairie]

it crits normally and everything in the large AoE gets 3 stacks

[idle bay]

And if there are Brittleness debuffs applied - does Soulfire ticks Harder?

[summer prairie]

I don't think so

but not positive

[idle bay]

Only Power affects soulfire damage?

Or it was fixed long time ago?

[summer prairie]

perks, +dmg from the tree, some blessings I guess

the ranged damage node doesn't work though

[plucky flax]

Yes.

[steel flame]

Only against armored targets

[glossy ember]

Imma need a vid cuz i have no idea which map or placethat is

[summer prairie]

the ticks still looked bad vs carapace but maybe I'm misremembering

[idle bay]

It's been 915 hours before i noticed that Hadron have a wooden peg-leg....

Bricked impantantion most likely 🙂

[steel flame]

That's mostly down to the massive health pool and the fact that brittle only goes to 80%

[idle bay]

Still soulfire ticks on targets who calls for Trauma charged attack is like teardrop in the sea - Crushers, Maulers, Ragers swarms. Though it tickles ragers a bit

[summer prairie]

it's good against everything except carapace

[steel flame]

But if you have uncanny dueling saber and combustion, that rending makes the fire melt through crusher packs like butter

[summer prairie]

you crit with trauma and then apply more stacks with shriek

[rotund dagger]

should i give it the final consecration or scrap it and go back to brunts?

[steel flame]

Goes up to 124% rending with saber

[plucky flax]

Rending is capped at 100% now.

[steel flame]

Lame

They need to fix their descriptions again

[plucky flax]

So t3 and t4 uncanny is the same. As you can get to 100% with 5 stacks using t3.

[steel flame]

-_-

Goddamit fatshark

[idle bay]

Pygex tested that you can go beyond 100%

[round summit]

does your blitz attack do more dmg if u have better wep?

[plucky flax]

That's impossible with patch 14. You can increase damage further with brittleness as that's a separate debuff mechanic from rending.

[idle bay]

They broke another loophole....

[plucky flax]

Maybe I'm wrong I'm not really sure how brittleness work in tandem with rending. But rending in patch 13 could go beyond 100%, but patch 14 nerf it to 100% cap.

[long wharf]

you really can't trust anything Fatshark says they did

everything must be tested

[glossy ember]

Say, is there any way to make scrier cooldown start while it's still in use?

[plucky flax]

No but maybe FS will change it like how they did volley fire.

[long wharf]

nope

[glossy ember]

if it did I could remove "psykinetic aura"

[distant roost]

Which is better to yall?

[long wharf]

I wouldn't go with Exorcist nor Precognition on an Illisi

Slaughterer is much better, especially since the Illisi is better against hordes than single targets

[distant roost]

fairs, but out of the two the exorcist is better ye?

given i use it as a get out of peril free card

[fresh reef]

this is gonna brick I can feel it in my soul

kek

[rotund dagger]

is that brick

idk whats good on knife

[round summit]

no

[rotund dagger]

sweet

Nice Knife

[frozen hearth]

ooooooohhhhhhh WEEEEEEE

[rotund dagger]

pray it doesn't get something like sprint efficiency

[frozen hearth]

i just need it to get at least wrap flurry or warp nexus and im set

comparing it to my current one, its either or tbh

honestly its going good so far. just ran short of plasteel but I got one of what i want

[silent coral]

trying out the whole laspistol scryers gaze build, with these kind of builds do yall think its better to run smite or assail?

[olive ember]

why would you run smite lol

[quick tulip]

Personal findings: assail is great until you activate scriers gaze with peril already built

Smite is a great pairing

[frozen hearth]

provided you run cohereency well, smite has more value with holding down elites and whatnot

[glossy ember]

lets you access psykinetic aura

for smite

[quick tulip]

I run Illissi+Laspistol and smite, laspistol can take care of just about everything shy of crushers (and still can be used against them well enough provided you run Infernus)
but smite can be used so they die faster when your allies finally turn around to kill them lol jkjk

[copper torrent]

Wait does that work for SG? I thought it didn't.

[glossy ember]

well, once the cooldown starts ticking, it should, right?

but before then no it doesn't

[copper torrent]

I have no clue

I read that it didn't a while ago.

Ah, i am thinking of warp siphon.

[glossy ember]

oh yeah

that doesn't work at all

[copper torrent]

I'll have to try out psykinetics to get more scrier uptime.

[glossy ember]

it's nice to get it back faster

[frozen hearth]

I like to run surge + smite + psionic. nice allrounder build

[glossy ember]

i'm running smite to get malefic momentum and psykinetic aura while using scrier

[frozen hearth]

especially after they nerfed voidstrike a quite bit

[glossy ember]

can't get both if you go bb or assail

although malefic momentum is questionable, i like it with how many hordes there are

aight gonna give mind in motion a go...

[frozen hearth]

honestly i might try scrier's gaze

[glossy ember]

it's awkward at first

mind u i haven't tried it with a staff that's not surge

[frozen hearth]

its gonna be tough running surge

[glossy ember]

it's doable if you nade cancel every rmb

[steel flame]

Scriers' gaze is very fun with guns

[frozen hearth]

I've graduated from running vent to shield. i might go from that to scrier

[glossy ember]

i still haven't tried out vent...

[frozen hearth]

vent used to be that it felt like it gave a higher mag size to surge staff. now i look at it as insurance

[steel flame]

I mean vent is basically the same as it's always been prior to p14

[frozen hearth]

well tbh, that should be the other way around

i think with a surge staff + scrier, the -20% generation plus the path to solidity might make it great. to be fair tho, i should only test this out on heresy

[glossy ember]

hm.... what if i took mind in motion with warp speed...

[frozen hearth]

with what build?

💀

terrifying barrage

[glossy ember]

this is what i'm running right now.
Thinking of swapping out malefic momentum for mind in motion, and maybe removing psykinetic aura for warp speed... Perilous Combustion is like 10% of my total damage so taking it off is a no no.

or I could remove Endurance (final scrier node), but that's risky

[steel flame]

I prefer assail with laspistol. Gives you very nice stagger, it can stack dumdum be quick swapping to laspistol and it's great for clearing trash to save ammo

[ornate hamlet]

I'm a fan of smite in part to make a statement against assail

[steel flame]

Assail is just a secondary thing, all the damage is coming from laspistol and saber

[ornate hamlet]

But smite is also cheap CC and can really help

So I use it

[steel flame]

People give assail a bad name

[rotund dagger]

OP

[steel flame]

Real shame

[rotund dagger]

icky blitz

[steel flame]

Wish they would just reduce ammo to 3

Regardless assail provides more value to scrier laspistol than smite

[idle bay]

Or increased to 20 - it would be better.

To annoy the living crap from assail haters 🙂

[steel flame]

But people be people so do whatever

[idle bay]

It's to annoy players or other players.

Taking assail is a massive nerf to the build if you like that CD reduction node that is untakable with an Assail and it hurts a lot. Balanced ™

[ornate hamlet]

The player can take warp charges anyway

They're expensive to get from the right side, but worth every point

[glossy ember]

warp charges are bugged with scrier

no cdr from them i believe?

[idle bay]

That CD reduction node combined with Warp charges - is Vent with Soulbern for days on whim or drawing dicks with Domes

[steel flame]

They didn't change the code to work with an ult that doesn't start cooldown right away. If you trigger scrier at 100% peril so it ends instantly, it will get cool down bonus

It's not a bug, they just forgot

[glossy ember]

thats so funny

[idle bay]

or just left it do later. It's Psykers tree anyway... 🙂

[steel flame]

It really isn't

[glossy ember]

tbh you're probably not using scrier on cooldown anyway

so it's PROBABLY not as much of a loss as it can be

[steel flame]

No I'm not

[ornate hamlet]

[steel flame]

I use it when I need spikes of damage or a speed boost

[glossy ember]

it's neat for your teammates tho

but yea

[steel flame]

Eh they can have 5% more crit chance

[glossy ember]

I might try without psykenetic aura and get that warp speed node...

[steel flame]

It's better for overall dps outside and inside scrier

[glossy ember]

yeah this can work

[frozen hearth]

idk what i expected but yeah i didn't get much value out of scrier's gaze + surge + smite

the benefit window was very limited

[glossy ember]

are you nade cancelling

[frozen hearth]

I guess not

idk what that is

[glossy ember]

lemme get u a clip

[ornate hamlet]

I'd say gaze is mainly for funny stunts

[frozen hearth]

I'd need like a horde or something to stack up gaze but thats it

[glossy ember]

#psyker-class message

[ornate hamlet]

With a whole 20% crit chance, you get to proc the toughness crit a lot more and it pairs really well with high finesse weapons like force swords and dueling swords

But everything is good on its own

[glossy ember]

you can hold it a lot longer if you nade cancel

[steel flame]

Mmm yes, funny stunts

[frozen hearth]

so i guess you cancel after you fire surge?

[ornate hamlet]

very zazy of you

[glossy ember]

ive hit my highest damage with it tbh

[glossy ember]

yeah

#psyker-class message see here for actual use in a fight

[steel flame]

I like to stay consistent ya know

[frozen hearth]

i'll have to try it, but im noti nthe mood for clacking up my fingers lol

[glossy ember]

understandable

[paper gate]

i run scriers gaze along with the buffed blitz keystone, so my melee gets me free supercharged shots of assail to make up for my lack of range. Plus, since i run a crit build, those are usually supercharged crit assails

its actually pretty fun

[glossy ember]

it also changes gameplay more than i thought it would

surge staff becomes a lot more intense

[paper gate]

i just wish we had some heavier options for psyker melee

[steel flame]

Define heavier

[lethal lagoon]

2 handed force sword when?

[paper gate]

^

what atlas said, honestly

[glossy ember]

ogryn sized force sword

[steel flame]

Who knows

[paper gate]

like, def not a thunder hammer or anything like that, but a 2h force sword would be awesome

[lethal lagoon]

Ogryn force sword. If there's a psyker nearby, you smack it on them and get a charge.

[paper gate]

make it like the brettonian longsword and i'd use nothing else lmao

grail knight kruber my beloved

[glossy ember]

the model is just a tposing psyker

[frozen hearth]

this is my current tree + surge staff

[lethal lagoon]

Ew, surge bugging is so last week

[paper gate]

how do you guys get the big picture like that? i only ever see the zoomed in talent tree

[frozen hearth]

theres a surge bug?

[lethal lagoon]

🤦‍♂️ Imagine using empowered surge and not noticing it's dealing double damage.

[frozen hearth]

darktide build editor

[lethal lagoon]

Or did you not run the build yet? That would make more sense

[glossy ember]

i'd ditch wildfire, battle quietude, and one of your smite nodes (10% dmg probably) to get the 30% quelling speed node bottom left

[frozen hearth]

fair. I'd think the soulfire nodes act as happy little accidents

[paper gate]

did not know this existed, thanks a ton!

[frozen hearth]

also i don't have a gauge for how much dmg empowered smite does

[lethal lagoon]

Empowered surge.

[frozen hearth]

it just see pink explosions and smile

[lethal lagoon]

That's the bug

[late yew]

What last tree should i use with crit psyker?

[bleak tulip]

warp charges or DD

[frozen hearth]

all in all, if I should be 2-3-shotting carapace enemies then I'm all good with the build

[bleak tulip]

DD is a little hard to recommend because the highlight's still bugged

[frozen hearth]

DD?

[bleak tulip]

but you can totally run it if youre fine with sometimes not having it and not seeing highlights

[bleak tulip]

disrupt destiny

right keystone

[frozen hearth]

ah

shows how much i even look at that keystone tree

[bleak tulip]

its probably theoretically optimal for void but as I said its bugged

[late yew]

Duration over stacks for it then?

[bleak tulip]

yeah

[frozen hearth]

did you mean battle meditation?

[late yew]

I suppose could take warp charges just for damage bonus

[bleak tulip]

its also nice to have vent up more if youre taking that

comfy

[arctic nimbus]

Best maps for warp battery?

[frozen hearth]

also, that one guy

[glossy ember]

oops yes

[frozen hearth]

why not that node?

[glossy ember]

not very impactful

[late yew]

Ok, then laspistol or recon for crit build?

[upbeat parcel]

should I stack toughness or hp with my curios

[frozen hearth]

i imagine it'd help when i have empowered smite up. that not the case?

[bleak tulip]

void

[glossy ember]

nah it doesn't happen enough for it to really be of use to you

[paper gate]

this is my build, mostly just for fun cause i rarely go above 3

[glossy ember]

here's what i'd go for

I think Psychic Leeching isn't that amazing, especially since smite stunlocks everything so you're letting teammates regen toughness for free anyway

and dome shield also does that

so could swap it for a toughness node, kinetic deflection, or warp expenditure

[lethal lagoon]

You *shouldn't * be. But god knows when they'll fix surge being affected by empowered psonics.

[frozen hearth]

which is psychic leeching?

[glossy ember]

middle one

[paper gate]

the middle perk at the, 2nd from the bottom

[frozen hearth]

ah okay

[glossy ember]

it's not bad but well, by nature of smite people will get toughness since nothing attacks

[primal plume]

is this mid?

[glossy ember]

can remove psychic leeching and get the second smite node too instead

so you have a stronk smite

[silent coral]

surprised you went with disrupt destiny over warp charges

[steel flame]

DD is much higher damage buff

[frozen hearth]

honestly, after testing it in the meat grinder, i wouldn't mind if they fixed the empowered surge bug. I'd be fine either way.

[glossy ember]

guns would benefit more from dd than warp charges no?

[orchid nest]

you also don't really have enough points as that build to go through to warp charges meaningfully since you want true aim

[glossy ember]

okay mind in motion is hilarious

[frozen hearth]

i just thought they buffed surge staff to such an extent

[late yew]

Also what blessings for laspistol and recon gun?

[steel flame]

Laspistol deals really high finesse damage and dd boosts that more that warp charges, warp siphon also doesn't function with SC rn and you just lose the charges when you ult so doubly doesn't benefit scrier

[frozen hearth]

what if i ran DD with surge staff?

[late yew]

Also remind me, which recon is the best

[glossy ember]

ohhh interesting to note that if you nade cancel surge rmb, the Lightning Storm talent simply doesn't trigger!

gotta delay the nade cancel just a tiny bit

[calm vine]

is brain rupture worth early game?

[glossy ember]

but that is not something i'd take the risk on

[calm vine]

its either rupture or the smite cuz

i dont wanna do the shards

[glossy ember]

and that's a glitched interaction anyway so

[steel flame]

You only really get half the damage buff from dd since you won't be hitting weak spots unless you are spamming m1

[glossy ember]

alright boys, i am READY to rock.

[frozen hearth]

only now discovering empowered surge is a bug, i'd like to see into other options

[glossy ember]

want my warp siphon surge build with shield?

[frozen hearth]

why not

although, would i be missing too much without empowered smite?

seeing pink mist does things for me

[glossy ember]

here you go

[lethal lagoon]

Smite does feel kind of lame without empowered. I really wish they would fix the bug so I can just run the lightning build.

[frozen hearth]

or at least killing a few things with smite

[glossy ember]

well you wouldn't be killing jack without EP for smite

except small leftover hordes you've been holding for too long

[lethal lagoon]

Smite without EP is basically just for stuns honestly

[glossy ember]

you can also go crit aura btw

[frozen hearth]

I think if the team is playing right, EP isn't needed

[glossy ember]

i default to cdr since that was my old build

[orchid nest]

they probably have fixed it already but we have to wait for the microsoft certification process now for all these patches with console being here

[lethal lagoon]

I hate how you can't have crit aura and the warp toughness DR

Psyker feels so much more squishy without it

[frozen hearth]

hate how i can't have crit aura without vent

[calm vine]

is going pure smite a valid build?

idk why just going "i have the powah" and killign everything with

just my hand lightning

[quick tulip]

If you want to kill things with lightning go surge

[lethal lagoon]

I've done runs with psykers who just use smite 99% of the time, usually fresh 30s. I have 0 issues with that.

[glossy ember]

Crit aura. You can remove kinetic deflection for one more toughness node if you want

[calm vine]

surge?

[glossy ember]

yeah, but you can "compensate" by getting more raw toughness nodes

[quick tulip]

Surge staff

[glossy ember]

you'd have to ditch kinetic deflection though, in the build above

[calm vine]

ooh ok

[lethal lagoon]

Armor math. It takes a lot of toughness to compensate for DR of that level.

So yeah "compensate" for sure.

[glossy ember]

well, better something than nothing right

[lethal lagoon]

With toughness? Not really

[frozen hearth]

i don't think i'd need kinetic deflection so i'm set

[lethal lagoon]

More glass is still glass.

Might as well lean into the cannon part if you don't get that warp DR

[glossy ember]

ehhh, that build is fine

there's spare points anyway

so you can get the toughness

or get utility

or toughness gen

[lethal lagoon]

I really miss using kinetic deflection with deflector to rez people in hilarious spots

[late yew]

I don't know what to think about laspistol being primary weapon

[lethal lagoon]

You could literally 3 to 0 wound someone lmao

[late yew]

What was that?

[lethal lagoon]

Kinector Defelection + Force Sword deflection used to block bullets during rezzes

If there were several gunners, they would just insta down upon rez though

Rinse and repeat, and they die.

To be clear, I never did this in pubs lmao

[steel flame]

My thoughts are....it's about damn time

[sonic whale]

Question, is there a way to make a build around the flamer? Wondering if you can buff it's effectiveness

[steel flame]

Purgatus staff?

[lethal lagoon]

Flamer crit = 2 stacks is about the only way if I get what you mean.

So build some crit

[sonic whale]

Oh sorry wrong channel

[rancid violet]

I mean... Have you tried it versus hordes...?
It's not as lethal as some abilities, but it can hold and pop 'em bit by bit.

It's a great compliment to the Surge staff for its sheer CC and on-demand stagger for both single-targets and hordes alike.

[sonic whale]

I should be in #zealot-class

[steel flame]

Begone shouty

[lethal lagoon]

Yes, without empowered psionics it's pretty lame

[rancid violet]

It's also really, really ezpz to use.

[sonic whale]

[rancid violet]

I disagree? Far left purple tree. Less lethal, but moar use per full-charge.

[plucky flax]

It's okay ask away I am zealot and psyker main.

[frozen hearth]

okay yeah I feel pretty set with this build

[lethal lagoon]

🤷‍♂️ Without EP, I always feel like there are better things I could be doing in that situation.

Than just smiting

[frozen hearth]

although i do feel the lack of battle meditation

[rancid violet]

Sir, versus a HORDE, what other bloody ability matches it for a Psyker?
The ability makes you kill said horde faster with a charge, but it's not a game-changer IMO...

[glossy ember]

you'll get used to it

well you could always switch out perilous combustion to battle meditation but i honestly feel like it's really not a good talent, for me anyway

[rancid violet]

Like, this is some weird entitled whining as though asking for moar buffs on wot is already the ezpz-est class.

[glossy ember]

i can't see a diff if i have it on or not

[calm vine]

its nice how you cant peril from smite, no matter how hard i try

[frozen hearth]

i could swtich the smite +1 chain to battle mediation

[frozen hearth]

not running wildfire so might as well

[lethal lagoon]

Whining? If we are talking about whining you came into an old convo to whine about how smite is good as is without EP.

[regal bridge]

Is there a decent trick to getting the "Warp Battery" Penance complete?

[glossy ember]

that's fair, it only affects LMB of smite, and rmb of surge staff (but that'sl ike 5% damage on the third target).

[rancid violet]

Protip: The ability is a primo for CC that CANNOT be matched on that front.
If you need single-target and immediate burst-DPS, grab the Surge staff.

They're practically made to go together.

[glossy ember]

Perilous combustion is still 10% of my damage even without wildfire.

[plucky flax]

Noooooo

[frozen hearth]

i see i see. and thats what im talking about when it comes to "happy little accidents"

[late yew]

Which recon lasgun best one

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-wake-up-dog-pet-poke-gif-17835661

[lethal lagoon]

Doesn't psyker only have 1 recon type?

[frozen hearth]

I'd just think combustion + wildfire + enfeeble (dmg buff on smited targets) would constitute as decent horde clear without EP

[rancid violet]

I said the ability is plenty fine without EP.
EP adds more damage when you have charges, but in terms of holding off hordes you want more uptime than DPS.

If you sacrifice uptime to git moar DPS on your CC-oriented zappin'... You're an idjit.
If you feel like you could be doing something else, you're not using Smite on a horde.
And if you're not dealing with a horde... Just use the Surge staff.

[late yew]

no

[lethal lagoon]

Right... and there are better things to do as a psyker than stand there like a dummy and "hold off hordes" lmao.

[rancid violet]

Sir, holding off entire waves is no small deal.
Especially since you do so without need for ammo and staggerlock foes within the shock.

[frozen hearth]

If you got a horde of carapace ragers and got assail on deck, you gonna wish you had smite assuming your party has good coherency

[rancid violet]

Furthermore, while EP boosts your ability, the left tree's charges reduces peril gain, period...
Which, if you need DPS, feeds into the Surge staff VERY nicely.

[lethal lagoon]

To me, that gives off "Look guys, I'm helping" vibes. It's something for fresh psykers to do. Agree to disagree I suppose.

[frozen hearth]

otherwise, you're hoping you'll take out 2 or 3 before getting mauled

[steel flame]

If I ever roll a decent recon I'll let you know

[harsh urchin]

Sounds like a player skill issue

[late yew]

Real skill issue

is friends we made along the way

[frozen hearth]

I think i'd trust the reliable smite psyker who's decked out to support the team while i've got a plasma build going or something

[lethal lagoon]

I'd trust a smite psyker because the average pub psyker is so terrible right now due to assail leveling, that them standing there spamming smite is probably the best thing they can do.

[glossy ember]

really depends on the situation, i feel it shines in its niche uses where the situation is real fucking dire, or someone messed up terribly and they desperately need breathing room.

Or objectives, it's nice to let the guy do the objective without getting interrupted if enemies line up.

[frozen hearth]

either way, if I can reliably chunk carapace folks in damnation while protecting folks, then I'm set

[rancid violet]

Horde? Smite.
Snipers or ranged units? Bubble.
Anything else? Surge staff, whether regular bolt-spam or high burst-DPS shock.

It's just that shrimple.

[frozen hearth]

🦐

[near wyvern]

I like the slow firing one with infrenus, seems to be the most ammo efficient. Recoil Lasguns suffer a bit from ammo efficiency. The fastest firing one does crazy DPS but you end up wasting a lot of ammo because it just fires so fucking fast.

[late yew]

And blessings?

[young meteor]

infernus is essentially mandatory

dont remember what's good for the 2nd one

[near wyvern]

Section 28.3

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959

[young meteor]

oh yeah the one that stack crit chance on headshot

[lethal lagoon]

For vet, Headhunter DumDum is solid. Psyk is probaby the same.

I don't personally like inferous, no amount of testing in the psyk makes it feel worth it.

But a lot of people don't like DumDum either 🤷‍♂️

[trim garnet]

grab?

[lethal lagoon]

Barrage to nexus, sprint to 5% crit. Seems decent.

[frozen hearth]

does warp charges affect soulfire? i'd hope so. I'm on the notion that soulfire operates on the game's side

[young meteor]

if you're new, it'll serve you well enough

[near wyvern]

The thing with headhunter is that Paykers have built in headhunter through true aim, which can proc back to back due to the fire rate of the weapon

[rare storm]

Is this actually a good way to get blessings or do you have too much milk

[trim garnet]

well i dont really have a better purgatus i guess

idk what to swap on it though

other than barrage to nexus

[young meteor]

definitely swap terrifgying barrage for smth else

[trim garnet]

unyielding doesnt seem like a terrible thing to keep?

[fickle scaffold]

milk is such a ripoff i swear

[lethal lagoon]

😦

[rare storm]

It's good to keep for a little bit extra monstrosity and reaper damage

[young meteor]

Ideally you want flak/maniac/+crit. Your call on what to change

[rare storm]

Sprint eff is definitely something to go tho

so...

[trim garnet]

do you think itd be worth swapping to flak and maniac and suffering barrage

[rare storm]

https://tenor.com/view/milk-in-your-face-splash-milk-face-protein-gif-16854266071440058212

[trim garnet]

i feel like the damage perks would be more important than nexus

[rare storm]

No, nexus is inherently way more important

a crit gives double soulblaze stacks

And your entire kit is based off of soulblaze lol

[trim garnet]

ooooh good to know

i wasnt aware of that

:D

[sonic whale]

Any tips for completing the top two penances on this?

[rare storm]

Yee learn something new erryday

[lethal lagoon]

That smelter level with the big hole in the middle

The ending portion of the big tree level

[trim garnet]

you could probably just get away with doing a malice and unbinding your combat ability

[rare storm]

hahahaha no....

[trim garnet]

no?

[sly sentinel]

The talent that rewards you for killing marked enemies, does it count even if other allies do the killing instead?

[lethal lagoon]

Warp battery is just super easy or bugged, right?

[trim garnet]

for warp battery i mean

[rare storm]

When you think you're gona get warp battery, suddenly the map goes empty and every infested your team kills don't give you a stack

The game knows... IT KNOWS WHEN YOU'RE DOING WARP BATTERY

[harsh urchin]

Has especially good synergy with vrak3 and columnus

[trim garnet]

i hope they do a passover on some of the psyker penances given that they all are either brain burst or warp charge related

changing brain burst to any blitz would be nice

[lethal lagoon]

Funny enough that tree level works for both those penances then

[harsh urchin]

I would say gunpsyker is in a pretty good state rn

[lethal lagoon]

The ending area can take forever and has ininfite enemies.

[harsh urchin]

Quite a few options

[lethal lagoon]

And then the running sequnce over the pipes to push enemies off

[rare storm]

It's not really 5minutes long kind forever tho

[trim garnet]

i wish scriers was better for non gun psyker

the only niche i know of is voidstrike peril transfer

[harsh urchin]

Revolver, vrak3, columnus and laspistol are all pretty good

[sonic whale]

I'll do that and ask if it's okay if the people in the lobby can help me with it

[rare storm]

but ideally you'd want maps with as little elevators inbetween and you'll be... Fine...

[fresh reef]

I had like 8k and didn't know how to spend it lol

[lethal lagoon]

Get to the middle of that curved pipe at the end, let some horde build up, and push em off. Your team will probably be ahead, might not even need to ask em

I feel like with warp battery, Just do a regular t5 that's fast pace, like either of the boss missions.

[rare storm]

Shiii

[fresh reef]

Ironically, the most efficient blessing farm is still getting a 360+ weapon, upgrading it to blue and scrapping it for the blessing

[rare storm]

Are you going for a specific blessing tho or just

Anything lol

[fresh reef]

Currently trying to get T4 Flesh Tearer

[rare storm]

Wait the blessings between those weps aren't shared ya

[fresh reef]

Between which weapons?

[rare storm]

the ones you spent melk bux on

[harsh urchin]

This isn't the best cuz you'll gate yourself hard on ordos

Its actually better to upgrade fully and gate yourself on plasteel

And you might also end up with a useable weapon base

[fresh reef]

Those were all just random rolls in hopes I'd nab a knife lol

[rare storm]

Oh wait duh, sorry I forgot how melk gacha works

[fresh reef]

Either way, Flesh Tearer is knife exclusive iirc

[rare storm]

mb

[fresh reef]

Noted for when I'm poor on dockets instead of Plasteel

[primal plume]

People often say the daving grace for trauma staff is the CC

that mightve had merit before the rework

but if i want to CC ill just use Smite and not fling shit all over the room

if im using a staff that has a long cast time and has a BOOM effect

i want a big kaboom

[paper harbor]

hey does ranged damage talent node count with assails?

[lethal lagoon]

Ah trauma. High skill mid reward.

[primal plume]

it was decent before fatshark decided to gut charge rates across the board

[proud hinge]

What should I change maniacs too?

[lethal lagoon]

It also used to be the reason a lot of leveling pyskers quit the class back in beta. It's the first staff you get and is absolutely terrible outside of meta lvls.

[fresh reef]

If you want to CC for teammates on trauma, just explode it way in front of your melee frontline

[harsh urchin]

Flak

[primal plume]

Or just use smite and use a better staff

[fresh reef]

This way it kills some of the next wave without interfering with their clear

[proud hinge]

thanks

[harsh urchin]

Its a pretty good weapon

[fresh reef]

Cool but I prefer BB

[rare storm]

It's really good once you get blazing+nexus on it

[harsh urchin]

I think flak+ cara or flak+elite is probably bis

[rare storm]

Or you can be the guy that makes everybody else feel like they've got huge dicks and double their damage

[proud hinge]

What is the build for surge staff? Just warp charges and shriek?

[primal plume]

Cool but thats not the topic. If youre telling me a staff is good for CC and I should use it for CC why shouldnt i use the skill specifically for CC and not run something else for killing?

[harsh urchin]

Warp charges shriek is good for non bug

Bug build runs EP

[proud hinge]

what is bug

[harsh urchin]

Do double dmg

[proud hinge]

oh interesting

[lethal lagoon]

It's not. Pretty much ruins it for your teammates. It is pretty fun to do it once though. Unlimited power, but not a meme.

[proud hinge]

is there a link for its build?

[fresh reef]

They're both equally good at CC

[harsh urchin]

#1158835513789272126 message example

[fresh reef]

Smite is just far easier to use

[proud hinge]

thanks!

[paper harbor]

hey psykers is the assails can boost up by range damage talent node?

[lethal lagoon]

I feel like annoying your team doesn't count as CC.

[vapid lichen]

is this fixable

[plucky flax]

Hey 1375k damage in 31 mins that seems pretty good for a 'bad' staff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sj-V9yVPFs

[orchid nest]

In my experience if a smite user and a trauma user are in the same game the smite is sometimes better in some hairy situations but most of the time the smite user is the one wasting their time ccing enemies that are already cc'd but having meaningful damage done to them at the same time by the trauma user

[fresh reef]

Trauma'ing your teammates feet is skill issue

[lethal lagoon]

Having to make up for a bad design with more skill is proving the opposite of your point.

[fresh reef]

I wouldn't say they're wasting their time, necessarily

[primal plume]

Whenever I use trauma i feel like i get surrounded more because shit is just flying all over the place

[fresh reef]

It's a symbiotic union of shock and boom

[orchid nest]

Yeah I mean like if a small elite pack is already on the ground from the trauma repeatedly and they are smiting they aren't really doing anything

[fresh reef]

Trauma is an acquired taste

One that many will never acquire

[plucky flax]

Tru dat.

Veri hard staff to play.

[rare storm]

It just means that it's not for you lol

[primal plume]

Is that total score or just killing score?

Because Smite + Creeping flames does that without all the annoyance trauma brings

[lethal lagoon]

Huh? I love trauma.

[rare storm]

Why is it a bad design

[fresh reef]

Score is irrelevant

[primal plume]

they were using score

[lethal lagoon]

Bad design for CC

[plucky flax]

That's just the total damage I dealt that game.

[proud hinge]

@harsh urchin how does the bug work? how do you get the stack of EP

[rare storm]

But it clears hordes

SO easily

[glossy ember]

wtf movement tech

[rare storm]

not purg easy but it's up there

[glossy ember]

im jealous

[fresh reef]

Get an EP stack, use Surge, get damage boost

[lethal lagoon]

it also knocks around horde SO easily

[fresh reef]

Ez as

[paper harbor]

it is ya'll unsure range damage talent node can pair with assail???

[rare storm]

You get blazing on it, they stagger, they burn to death.

You stay alive, your team goes forward

how is it bad cc

[sage glacier]

Ik everyone praises the surge staff but i feel so much more effective with the purg staff

[plucky flax]

This is the end scoreboard of that game. 1.1k range kills (knocking stuff around and not killing them btw)

[orchid nest]

you'll never creeping flames as well as a blaze trauma as smite because you don't have psykinetics aura or the extra blaze stacks from trauma. whether that trade off is worth it to you is another matter

[lethal lagoon]

Virtually every trauma user I've run into is just obvilous of the problems they cause. A rare few make up for it.

Same with Ogryn's knocking shit around and never realizing they just trapped a teammate to death

[rare storm]

I've had surge and void users hyper focus and die,

Saying people are bad at a wep doesn't mean it's a bad wep

[plucky flax]

What move tech?

[fresh reef]

Then they have skill issue

[lime dust]

is there tech in darktide fr?

[fresh reef]

Only movement tech I can think of is ledge dodging

[rare storm]

By your logic, I see void users aiming too low and not killing anything and instead knocking them down, that doesn't mean void is shit

[glossy ember]

the lil dueling sword swing to go faster even at 0 stam

[harsh urchin]

What hanhda says.. its not a complex build lol

[glossy ember]

also what are the purple things

[primal plume]

whats the average score with it?

[fresh reef]

Warp Charge indicator

[proud hinge]

ah ok haha

[lime dust]

O

[plucky flax]

That's the warp charges. That move tech with duelling sword is common knowledge I thought.

[glossy ember]

oh

[plucky flax]

Yeah I have switched to that since.

My blaze trauma build warpfire does around 40% ish damage.

[fresh reef]

Is it built into the scoreboard or a separate plug in?

[rare storm]

Seperate plugin

[plucky flax]

What average score? I don't get you.

[rare storm]

Ovenproof's scoreboard plugin

But you can have both enabled

[fresh reef]

Cheers

[rare storm]

I like keeping some of the original rows on though

The most important line, Materials collected

[primal plume]

im saying it looks like you picked up the slack of the guy with a score of 59. what does it look like when someone isnt being carried

[plucky flax]

Well Idk I carry every game.

[fresh reef]

trauma stays on top because I can do this with it

[primal plume]

that not what i asked

[plucky flax]

That's my answer. I get top damage every time I play with trauma so..

[orchid nest]

having seen his games it's the other way around. the guy probably isn't bad, he just had no chance to kill anything

[fresh reef]

score does not matter

it deducts points from your defense score for using med stations

[primal plume]

Yes it does

because it gaugues performance in an unbiased way

Some things you cant really use score for

but if the argument is a weapon is better at killing/damage then yes scoreboard matters to a degree

[lethal lagoon]

CC in a horde game does 2 things; Disables enemies to make them less of a threat or easier to kill. Trauma does the opposite of these two things. You can make up for this flaw with skill, but that doesn't make it a good CC tool.

[fresh reef]

how is seeing that I did 800k damage and killed the majority of disablers 'biased'?

[primal plume]

read what i said again

[fresh reef]

I still don't see how an arbitrary score number is relevant

[primal plume]

Well how is it not?

If were talking about the damage potential, kill potential, ect

how is something that tracks that irrelevant

it gives us a better idea of the average performance of a weapon or skill

[fresh reef]

because these are all clearly visible via the tabs that track how much damage you do and how many enemies you kill? and then color codes the highest in the party??

?????????????????

[orchid nest]

the individual stats can be relevant, I think his point is the overall score can be a bit arbitrary

[primal plume]

Whats your point?

[primal plume]

Im not looking at overall score though. Just damage and kills

[fresh reef]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/886381235130228819/1146887619486162954/image0.gif

[untold vault]

EP bug with surge got fixed right?

[lethal lagoon]

No

[untold vault]

Wait still not?
Time to abuse it again.

[primal plume]

So youre telling me that if I want to know how good a weapon is. And theres a scoreboard that can put into simple text how good a weapon can be and gives us the average performance of said weapon thats not relevant?

[lethal lagoon]

Is there a working lobby mod to see weapons so I can queue dodge surge users lmao

[untold vault]

Just loadouts

[atomic zephyr]

Jesus. Blazing spirit isnt even a t4 only blessing and i can’t craft one for the life of me

[orchid nest]

maybe fixed wednesday or thursday this coming week or something. we probably have to wait on the console certification process even if they had a fix ready quickly

[untold vault]

Works fine still

[glossy ember]

there's a few

[fresh reef]

when you can tell me the exact difference between an offense score of 100 and 140 in separate games where both are the tops scores, I'll consider scores being a valid data point

[primal plume]

I said before im only looking at kills and damage

[lethal lagoon]

Mind giving me the title of one please?

[untold vault]

Also for some reason lightning storm works on surge

[lethal lagoon]

Surge and smite are definitely copy and pasted code lmao fatshark

[plucky flax]

Well you said trauma only knock stuff around and not kill but I killed plenty so now what?

[primal plume]

100% the only way I can see this bug happening

just a copy pasted "Lightning_Damage" code

[vestal fulcrum]

I think this might work?
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/160?tab=description

[untold vault]

Still works

[lethal lagoon]

Thank you good sir

[primal plume]

and im convinced fatshark doesnt ever do playtsts

[untold vault]

Currently using it

[willow hazel]

kills and damage between games are mostly dependent on game length

[plucky flax]

What the hell are those numbers?

[glossy ember]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/81

[primal plume]

Which is why i said i want an average

over multiple games

[lethal lagoon]

That's the one that doesn't work I believe

I have it

[glossy ember]

it does? i still use it

[vestal fulcrum]

This is a little worse off than Loadout Monitor IMO. People can have skins on staves/weapons - it may be tough to see at a first glance what is what

[fresh reef]

note that this isn't always reliable, since staves can have the model of other staves

[glossy ember]

yeah fair but i wasn't gonna link the already linked mod above

since it was already linked

[lethal lagoon]

I just get an error

[glossy ember]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/240 there's also this.

[fresh reef]

and just checking before I launch the game, are these two plugins basically doing the same thing?

[lethal lagoon]

I already saw the troll before lmao

[plucky flax]

You can remove scoreboard damage.

It won't be needed with the ovenproof addon.

[primal plume]

What does this actually do?

[fresh reef]

noted, thanks

[primal plume]

I keep seeing it

[glossy ember]

what it says, i assume

[primal plume]

oh lol

[untold vault]

It makes you unable to matchmake

That's literally it

[vestal fulcrum]

The things pals do to make MM lengthier

[primal plume]

so you filter yourself

[idle aurora]

Would be funny if it somehow broke the game, and let you solo play with progression

[untold vault]

Amazing code

[plucky flax]

I have my scoreboard set up like this currently. A bit long but it gives good break down.

[primal plume]

On a side note, I really wish the psyker bubble and wall effects were toned down just a smidge

[steel flame]

too cluttered for end of round screenshots

i have it

[primal plume]

thats a bit messy

[plucky flax]

I want to remove all the gaps but it's not possible.

[primal plume]

why didnt people just copy this?

[plucky flax]

And rearrange the order.

[steel flame]

why didnt fatshark just copy that COUGH

[lethal lagoon]

Do mods allow for actual image importing though?

[primal plume]

Beer Shared

[glossy ember]

based RV beer chad

[vestal fulcrum]

Because it does not account for many other interactions featured in DT

Heck, even some interactions that are shared between the two games

[primal plume]

I feel that the scoreboard in darktide is too cluttered

[vestal fulcrum]

You can turn off the stuff you don't want to have an insight on, though

[rare storm]

It's just extra info for people to see how their builds are doing

[primal plume]

I dont have the mod. My BF does and I only ask him what my peformance was when I need an ego boost

[rare storm]

You can have literally just the "Lesser Enemies Killed" "Elites & Specialists Killed"

[primal plume]

AND HE ALWAYS TOP SCORES IN OVERALL BCAUSE THE MOD PUTS SO MUCH WEIGHT ON MATS GATHERED

[fresh reef]

can you post mod menu settings?

[rare storm]

The only score that matters tbh

[lethal lagoon]

As it should

[vestal fulcrum]

That's why I turn off the total score summaries. They just don't show me anything that is relevant

[lethal lagoon]

Mats gathered might literally be the only thing that matters in a winning game

[rare storm]

How did you get the loadouts in here btw

[royal granite]

with regards to using the scoreboard mod to accurately judge performance: we don't actually know that the scoreboard keeps accurate track

[vestal fulcrum]

Well, I can't deny that gathering materials is one of the goals

[lethal lagoon]

I've compared boards, so they are at least accurate in that sense

Like between teammates

[rare storm]

Ehh... at least it's something

[lethal lagoon]

The mutant wave spawns in maelstroms definitely mess with the scoreboard in terms of damage

[royal granite]

i hate mutant waves so much

mechanically they are fine, but the noise? it gets so fucking old

[lethal lagoon]

I like it, kind of makes me feel I'm "Running with the bulls" or whatever

[rare storm]

Mutant waves 10/10 with dueling sword tho

poke stick go ham

[royal granite]

i've had games where i'm hearing AAAAAAAAAAAAA for most of the playtime

[plucky flax]

It's an option in a mod called loadout monitor.

[rare storm]

ahhhh okay

[fresh reef]

made the mistake of leaving every option ticked lol

[rare storm]

[upper shard]

wow the sabre is very strong

oneshotting damnation

[royal granite]

yeah it's a silly weapon

[glossy ember]

the scorest of boards

[remote flower]

what do yall think of the new psyker outfit? cause, personally..

[rare storm]

There's a new one?

[remote flower]

mhm, bought it earlier

[orchid shadow]

All psyker cosmetics suck. Only good clothes are the starting prisoner clothes.

[rare storm]

o that's not bad

[remote flower]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-beocord-no-lol-gif-24435520

[lucid terrace]

It stinks when you have a huge mustache so the veil looks weird

[remote flower]

LOL

[rare storm]

Well you can get rid of it

[lucid terrace]

Hell no

[remote flower]

gotta keep the mustache, gives extra power

[lucid terrace]

My psyker's iconic look would be ruined if he lost his mustache

[fresh reef]

I rather like my current drip

wish we had more head cosmetics that weren't just hoods or face veils

[remote flower]

Got that crazy german scientist look

[rare storm]

Magic man needs his hood

[remote flower]

more variety would be awesome, yeah psyker does have some of my favorite cosmetics in the whole game tho

[rare storm]

speaking of headgear

waiting for this one to show up

looks badass

[remote flower]

ooh, there were leaks? im gonna have to go check what stuff they got planned for zealot

[rare storm]

Ya awhile ago somebody posted on reddit all available cosmetics from datamining or something

[lucid terrace]

Zealot probably has the best cosmetics in the game
Lots of variety and they all look really nice (depends on who you ask tho, they might be SHIT to someone else)

[lucid terrace]

From a mod

[remote flower]

bought the trash can armor and regretted it immediately lmfao..

[rare storm]

Ah yes

but iirc it got taken down

[lucid terrace]

Yeah

[orchid shadow]

The only look I liked on my psyker was when they had the shirtless glitch.

[rare storm]

I think ogryns have the worst skins in the game

[lucid terrace]

They just don't have anything

[lethal lagoon]

Half of Ogryn skins look dumb, the other half look like stuff you'd buy for a baby.

[plucky flax]

Ogryn's new berret is super swaggy.

[sonic whale]

desperate need in our community.

[plucky flax]

The one without the mask.

[sonic whale]

[lucid terrace]

There's some really nice premium cosmetics for ogryn, but only SOME

[rare storm]

They do, they're just different camos or colour

[remote flower]

they should just give us a shirtless option offically, would be fun to do with a fanatic zealot

[rare storm]

[sonic whale]

Quick question, is there one of that metal visor without a face cover or head cover?

[lucid terrace]

I heard they can't, GW had problems with shirtless men and women

[lethal lagoon]

Literally nothing is good except the goggles lmao

[plucky flax]

[rare storm]

There's one like that from a penance iirc

or do you mean THAT specific cover

[sonic whale]

Yes sah

[royal granite]

imagine a shirtless man in GW media

[lethal lagoon]

GW has a ton of weird rules

[remote flower]

we can have viciously violent combat but, no one can be shirtless? damn🥲

[lethal lagoon]

Like no procedural generation

[plucky flax]

Wife beater + beret vibe

[sonic whale]

This minus the lower face mask

[remote flower]

what i imagine when i hear the bully voicelines

[royal granite]

thank you colonel iron hand straken for letting us know that nipples don't exist in 40k

[sonic whale]

Well one got blown off and the other probably eaten

[rare storm]

There actually is

[sonic whale]

Also you coul-YOOO LETS GO

I hope it comes to the store sometime as I love it

[rare storm]

This is nice

gad damn

[remote flower]

yeah that would be awesome

[royal granite]

the dinged up VR helmet looks kinda bad imo

[orchid shadow]

There must be some hold out on from some lead on the character art team that they refuse to give the option back. Seriously, unless there's some weird lore thing, there's no reason not to.

[sonic whale]

It's like the helmet that you can't see out of for the Zealots. For the Zealots it says "I see through my Faith." For a Psyker it's "I see through the warp."

[rare storm]

well you can have a dinged up eye cover in RED

[remote flower]

100% sticking to the latest outfit for a while now though, maybe they'll release something that catches my eye tho.. we'll see

[fresh reef]

TIL staff m1 actually has enough stagger power to push bursters

[sonic whale]

OHGHHGHGHH THAT'S HOT ASF

[rare storm]

Fuckin colour variations man

[remote flower]

that looks badass, I really hope they make it an option even if its unlikely

[rare storm]

They really should just let us recolour premium skins that are bought with aquilas

[sonic whale]

I like ahving normal and coloured versions

[cosmic nova]

i can choose one to buy from melk, should i buy either?

[fresh reef]

btw since the website you get the 'check all cosmetics' mod is cancerous, I'm just gonna post the rar file here for anyone who wants it

[orchid shadow]

All those tattoo options, and then they cover it all up.

[sonic whale]

Also on this idea, this is what I'm doing with my current outfit

[royal granite]

love the red and gold head hankie

[lucid terrace]

I like how there's a multitude of color swaps for existing outfits just sitting in the files that won't get released anytime soon

[remote flower]

Granted, there are tanks (kinda) for all of the operatives so, it doesn’t completely go to waste

[sonic whale]

The freak futilely hiding their scars and nature, despite the collar

[lucid terrace]

PUT THAT BAG BACK ON

[remote flower]

LMFAO

[rare storm]

I actually have this but I can't open it

lol

[orchid shadow]

That cowl would've been kinda okay if it didn't remind me of Magikarp...

[sonic whale]

I got the Rogue Trader warband Psyker outfit with it too but didn't get the golden helmet as that looked ugly asf

[rare storm]

Shiii, our psyker's a cosplayer

[remote flower]

I’m gonna have that image burned into my head forever now

[lucid terrace]

Who

Oops

Who's excited for force greatsword?

[rare storm]

Sus

[royal granite]

i didn't get the red and gold jacket, i prefer the blue and gold

[remote flower]

First one looks awesome

[royal granite]

blue and red go well together

[remote flower]

I can’t tell if the new cosmetic is purple or blue

[lucid terrace]

Somewhere between purple and black I'd say

[sonic whale]

Ehhh 50/50, would love a Force Axe personally, it's like the Chains Axe, I just love the brutality of it What's that voice talking about blood for in my head?

[remote flower]

Kinda like a navy blue, now that I’m looking at it

[lucid terrace]

There's probably a force axe somewhere

[fresh reef]

shout out to the scripture cap, gotta be one of the hats of all time

[sonic whale]

Yeah that new outfit looks baller

[remote flower]

Force axe would be awesome

[lucid terrace]

But force greatsword? That's here and now

[sonic whale]

I love the leg brace

[sonic whale]

That's sick

[rare storm]

Ah I'm waiting for the white one to appear

Shit looks goood

[rare storm]

Looks like the vet's melee

[silent coral]

what better uncanny or slaughterer?

[lucid terrace]

It might be a powersword

There's 2handed powerswords in the files too

[sonic whale]

But this was my old outfit, golden version of this collar is silly

[remote flower]

If only you had the option to make the lil un’s more muscular, would make it look more badass than it already does

[sonic whale]

Slaughter I think?

[royal granite]

the solid gold cosmetics generally look bad

[rare storm]

I prefer uncanny but you gotta aim with it

especially with muties, gotta release a bit earlier to get that weakspot hit in

[sonic whale]

I just wish we didn't share the same unisex body type outside of the Mannequin and creator

[sonic whale]

I did like the gold mask one with the big headpiece behind it but personally not my style

[rare storm]

I wished FS didn't dive so headass deep into all the characters being ugly as fuck

[lethal lagoon]

My goto, something about circus pants fits a psyker vibe to me.

[sonic whale]

Blame the genetics of 38,000 years in the future

[remote flower]

There’s like 5 good looking faces in total💀

[lucid terrace]

I wish the shoulders weren't so....... big

[lethal lagoon]

5 seems high?

[rare storm]

That is EXTREMELY generous

[rare storm]

Shit's really gone down hill

[remote flower]

Humans really turned into that “how we would evolve to survive a car crash” meme 38k years in the future

[lethal lagoon]

bro... I never even noticed that, why you do this to me?

[sonic whale]

Idk about you but I am very happy with how pretty my characters look

[rare storm]

https://tenor.com/view/so-ugly-hideous-unattractive-unpleasant-greendumpling-gif-16552200

[lucid terrace]

Psyker being bulky doesn't sound/look right to me

[sonic whale]

Agreed

[lucid terrace]

It's why I hate his default stuff

[sonic whale]

I am a feeble mind person, my strength is in the immaterial not reality

[fresh reef]

wish I didn't have to have tiger print on this type of chest cosmetics just for some black gloves

[remote flower]

Yeahh, let the zealots be jacked

[royal granite]

my character looks like a butch lesbian, which is to say she looks perfect

[remote flower]

The tiger print gives it more character

[sonic whale]

I like the shoulder pads When they're longer like this, 2nd image for some reason the shortness just feels wrong and the 3rd I just wish we had some stomach plate something, idk why everone is prioritising ONLY their upper chest

[fresh reef]

as an aside, is it just me or does the head in this running animation seem a little off?

[rare storm]

The green waistband ruins this for me

[sonic whale]

We play as a freak so we run as a freak

[rare storm]

Never worn it lmao

[lucid terrace]

Idk I run like that

[bleak tulip]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIEnEXYXnaU

[rare storm]

Gad damn

[remote flower]

Give us some crazy fullbody light armour, thin plates that cover our thighs, stomach and, chest