#psyker-class

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steel flame
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Id still keep it because it's inevitable that fatshark will overtune it again down the line

ornate nacelle
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Is Terrifying Barrage glued to purgatus staves or something, literally never rolled one without it

mild junco
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I find TB to be very sticky with staves in general

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I once got 7 Surge Staves with TB in a row, looking for Warp Nexus

magic vessel
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Uhh bros?

mild junco
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Awesome

fierce crest
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and stability is actually irrelevant on recons

magic vessel
magic vessel
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where infernus

fierce crest
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plus focused channeling at t2 and run n gun at t3

unique mist
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what's mk2 heavy laspistol recommended blessings? infernus a good pick?

ebon jolt
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Infernus and Dumdum are a good.

pine nova
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probably the most insane 350 I've ever seen

languid tusk
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can you tell me if you can replicate this bug ?

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step 1: land crit with hand cannon revolver

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step 2: immediatly swap to assail

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assail now has 80% rending

lyric burrow
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Yeah that works last i knew

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You can have stuff like hand cannon apply to other weapons once applied to an enemy

spice veldt
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it applies at all times to crits

lyric burrow
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P sure it used to work with soulblaze and slaughterer too

languid tusk
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i just killed a crusher with assail lol

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wait, thats illegal !

harsh urchin
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Assail feels pretty bad without the hand Cannon bug though

steel flame
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im loving this full "fuck you specials" build ive got

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smite go brr

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and you morons that thing it sucks

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are morons

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i really love the bouncy walls

spice veldt
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assail has been feeling basically the same since patch 13

steel flame
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nothing brings more joy than watching a horde of poxbursters just boing off a shield

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then all explode at once

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and kill an entire mutant wave

surreal mural
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Gunpsyker clutching games in auric damnation

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W

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Scriers Gaze is good I will tolerate no hate

hard locust
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this good for blessings?

steel flame
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its amazing 😛

steel flame
surreal mural
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Headhunter Mk7

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Pew pew

steel flame
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smh

surreal mural
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The hipfire is really strong

steel flame
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you were so close to making me proud

surreal mural
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spammable into groups

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Why?

steel flame
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the real pew pew is laspistol

surreal mural
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Oh yeah lol

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Ive ran that too and the revolver

steel flame
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its ok, you are still special to someone

surreal mural
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Not as much success with revolver + scriers

languid tusk
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then you blow up

steel flame
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based

surreal mural
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loool

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Thats why I go with BB with scriers

undone carbon
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do i keep this or do i just crunch it for slaughterer 4 for my illisi

surreal mural
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You can roll better

languid tusk
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unstable power + slaughterer is really nice combo

surreal mural
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Those are good blessings on meh rolls

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:((

undone carbon
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yeah p much- but ty melk for handing me slaughterer 4

static scroll
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We need skins for the assail shards

fresh reef
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Playing Vet ruined me

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It's so, so much easier to carry shitter teammates than with Psyker

hearty sedge
strong gulch
patent fiber
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surge staff is obscene

fierce crest
languid tusk
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actually its not a rev its more like a stroke

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dont stroke your illisi too much or you blow up whatthefuck_heresy

fierce crest
strong gulch
rotund dagger
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What do enhanced blitz do to things like smite

kind jay
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125% damage and faster spread

near wyvern
near wyvern
twin hedge
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Having so much fun with the revolver. Is there any other gun that hits hard and feels just as snappy? The reload is killing me.

jagged wadi
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can someone help with achievement?

twin hedge
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I enjoy the agripinea autogun but the swap speed is very sluggish

austere estuary
willow hazel
frosty yew
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Laspitol is perfect for reckless run and gun.
Revolver demands precision.

twin hedge
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If they gave the psyker a shotgun...

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And then swapped bb and assail on the skill tree...

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I'll give laspistol a try tho. I really enjoyed doming elites and specials with revolver. And erasing mauler squads.

vagrant frigate
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which auric is melee only

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like the name of it

lethal lagoon
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It's a random maelstrom that appears.

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It'll say in the description it's "mostly melee enemies"

primal radish
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Does rending have a cap or diminishing returns? What if you use uncanny strike and rending back stab on the knife 120% rending plus 120% rending

strong gulch
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If the hourglass is available, that's all I'm getting. No other maps exist apparently. staregryn

hearty sedge
tired knoll
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where full auto laspistol for console

cedar zenith
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Excuse me what

languid tusk
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lmao

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that was very rare chance to get tier 1 on base 377

open stratus
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worth getting?

cedar zenith
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okokokokok

austere estuary
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I was just praised for my trauma staff use and now feeling warm and fuzzy peepoComfy

austere estuary
cedar zenith
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Probably want maniac on it

austere estuary
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maniac and slaughterer and it's party time

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that said I'm starting to think I might drop slaughterer on my trauma/deimos setup, as I only really use the deimos for bosses

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and monsters I mean

cedar zenith
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I'm probably gonna keep deflector for now

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switch it out later

austere estuary
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I really wish they hadn't made deflector not work when ressing

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but I get why they did

cedar zenith
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Now what do I pair it with

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Probably just trauma as I've been

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something for hordes

open stratus
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How are there people playing in auric that still fire at bursters....

cedar zenith
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burssy

spice veldt
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bussussy

austere estuary
cedar zenith
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yeah it's not bad

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Need flurry IV on it

cyan notch
spice veldt
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nice photoshop

austere estuary
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I really wish we could do the 360 push of FS on all melee

lyric burrow
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Looks real to me ngl

spice veldt
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you can

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all melees have 360 degree pushes

cyan notch
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yea just smaller

spice veldt
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just that force swords have a mildly longer push range than most other melees in general

austere estuary
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oh I see

lyric burrow
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I didnt realize it was 360 damn

cyan notch
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u can stand with ur back facing a dude and shove with an axe and still push behind u

lyric burrow
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Guess it makes sense since blocking is

spice veldt
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it's a nice strat for interrogators to just spam pushes on the teammate doing it (assuming kinetic deflection)

austere estuary
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that's really nice to know, always thought it was fs only

spice veldt
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this is the REAL stuff

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owned

cyan notch
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bro thinks that makes it any better 💀

spice veldt
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owned

cyan notch
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its not actually photoshopped i just searched by messages from ur name

spice veldt
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plausible explanation

cyan notch
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nvm speaking of that

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i found another one

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LOL

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gonna use this one instead next time

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cant photoshop excuse your way outta this one bucko

left mirage
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vs got nerfed a decent bit yeah?

livid pollen
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To all that care, i was able to complete Warp Batter Penance 6+ Or 4+ warp charges to be held for 300 secs exactly. Do not drop below 4 or 6. You will get it.

left mirage
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still getting staggers but the damage feels much worse

red wind
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so did they fix smite being infinite with empowered psionics or what?

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i'm trying to put together a build w/ the funny lightning

valid talon
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Infinite +125% damage uptime

red wind
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so would it be better to run, like, warp charges for smite?

valid talon
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If you wanna do a meme unlimited power build, you can run it with warp charges and quell, which gives good uptime and astonishing uptime if lucky

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But if you're serious about using it empowered psionics is probably the best

cyan notch
spice veldt
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that's sooo true!!!

onyx sentinel
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Which one do I use as a base for a fire trauma build?

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Leaning towards the first one as that has better quell speed and nexus 4

shell igloo
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I'm no expert, but neither of those seem ideal for use with those base rolls

valid talon
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Hey you purge with what you got

near wyvern
fresh reef
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How much damage do you guys think BB should deal?

shell igloo
cosmic sigil
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my psyker is my luckiest character

fresh reef
supple dock
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It can 1shot gunners, flamers, hounds, pox bursters

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am i missing anything?

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of course wit the +20% warp damage based on peril skill

austere estuary
robust sierra
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you guys think I should grab this from melk?

uneven drift
robust sierra
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I have 14k currently

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is that a lot?

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cause my plasteel and dockets are significantly lower

uneven drift
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Anyway you can't spend melk bucks on anything else significant. If belssings wasn't run and gun i would consider it like a good investment. In current state -- praise Omnissiah for good 2nd blessing.

dense bramble
silk hawk
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What are meta combos for psyker RN?

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Melee+range+blitz

dense bramble
winter magnet
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yo is it just me or does the fact that empowered pysonics effecting lightning staff not even mean that much? like it feels fine? not broken or anything just like good but not broken? yall agree or disagree or why?

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for refrence this is the staff im using with it

dense bramble
winter magnet
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yea for real

dense bramble
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I dont mind. Lightning should be a good weapon and it isnt op

cosmic sigil
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In the EP tree, what charged up does? It says "charges" but I don't remember seeing charges in the description of EP?

winter magnet
silk hawk
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Wait we talking about that one will that affect blitz skills?

winter magnet
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yes]

silk hawk
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Eh? It's some kind of bug?

winter magnet
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yea

silk hawk
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I am usually rocking warp charges...

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Gotta test it i guess

strong gulch
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I was responding to something earlier, but now I have no idea what it was about.

I was gonna amend a comment then my brain yeeted the info. Oh well. 🤷

silk hawk
strong gulch
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Potato strikes again.

harsh urchin
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abuse it

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make it known

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so hopefully fatshark fixes it and buffs psyker

cosmic sigil
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Thanks for answering!

compact cargo
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psyker needs no buffs

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Just fixes

sullen bobcat
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And assail nerfs

sonic viper
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Silly question, have any of you seen any Maccabian MKIV's above 360 base?

white wolf
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Does Brain Burst still count towards the 20 consecutive headshot kills penance?

vocal sundial
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yes

silk hawk
silk hawk
cosmic sigil
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😄

silk hawk
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Heck that ability, it killed me so many times xD

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Assail rmb feels very bad to use, even thou they buff it last patch

potent echo
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They nerfed it though KEKW_ogryn

silk hawk
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They needed lmb and buffed rmb

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But rmb still sux

potent echo
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Yea but like you still shouldn't use rmb

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Unless sniper

silk hawk
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I just don't use assail xD

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Surge+bb for the win

potent echo
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They kind of fight for the same role though

silk hawk
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Ye but bb is significantly better for bosses xD

potent echo
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True

silk hawk
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I was not playing a game for a long while but after all that time i still feel that good ol axe is the best melee for me

potent echo
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Axe is lmb, you can't go wrong

silk hawk
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Although i kinda like sabre mk. 2 if i am not wrong the one with a piercing attacks in pattern

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I tried Deimos FS in theory it doing huge dps output, but on practice its kinda hard to use properly...

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At least for me...

silk hawk
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If u already have cc from surge why smite?

harsh urchin
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because your smite nodes apply to the staff

silk hawk
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I guess thats a bug too xD?

harsh urchin
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yes

silk hawk
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Gj fatshark xD

harsh urchin
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the build I made doesn't use blitz at all, and takes more toughness and damage reduction

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the one the other guy linked builds into EP harder and you can use smite in game if you want

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pick your poison lol

ripe yacht
tough karma
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Is their a wiki or post somewhere that can show builds and the like? or blessings/weapons rolls to look for? Iv been running assail but honestly iv not done the higher missions so unsure what to build towards

ripe yacht
tough karma
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thanks

left crater
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what are the meta blessings/perks for the voidstrike?

tame venture
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nexus and flurry i think

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personally i like transfer peril

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also dang, i guess the one voidstrike i found with about 400 rating, but 40% blast radius isn't quite the crippling issue i thought it was?

left crater
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currently i have flurry and transfer on mine. so those are good. perks?

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rn its sprint and crit chance so... gotta swap em. flak maniac usually good. unyielding or carapace could be useful, though niche

tame venture
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Perks Carapace, Maniac, Unyielding, Crit Chance
or
Flak, Carapace, Maniac, Unyielding

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taken from the pinned guide

left crater
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this should work

viscid matrix
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Surge causes all crits to hit twice

left crater
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alas i have neither rn...

cedar zenith
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Without surge it’s pretty mid

viscid matrix
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without surge, its actually balanced 😄

left crater
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guess ill need to grind voidstrikes to find surge then

tame venture
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the guide puts gunner resistance on curios as garbage tier, wouldn't it be useful as those are likely going to be the most likely to ping you ?

summer prairie
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it's only 3 elites but it's still one of the more useful ones

full panther
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Trying to decide if this is worth a grab, shame about the damage but otherwise seems nice

wispy pike
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I want to trade out my Illisi for something else.

tame venture
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wouldnt hurt to get it, there may be better rolls eventually

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but you won't have a good roll now if you don't

wispy pike
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That 380 base though

tame venture
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could always think of it as a placeholder until you get that "perfect" weapon

tame venture
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check pinned comments

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or:

cedar zenith
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Read the top comment

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The curio shit is outdated

tame venture
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rip 😔

cedar zenith
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Snipers will one shot you and gunners will delete your toughness

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Even with a shield sometimes you get caught without it

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And if your team is incompetent at taking out gunners

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Gunners and bombers/flamers end runs

noble wasp
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How do I make brain rupture stop targeting non-elite/special enemies?

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Noticing it’s hard to lock onto an elite if there’s a crowd nearish to them

cedar zenith
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Aim over their heads

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And be taller

storm pagoda
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what should I do with this duelling sword? I'm thinking swapping out both perks but would it be worth to swap on T4 shred over the riposte?

noble wasp
cedar zenith
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Did you make a short king psyker?

summer prairie
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Changing the perks is probably objectively best, a bit sad though

noble wasp
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Yes.

cedar zenith
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Damn

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Skill issue

noble wasp
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I intended to meatshield my teammates

cedar zenith
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Find yourself a box to stand on

noble wasp
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Seems as though I’ve screwed myself a tad

cedar zenith
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Should be able to target those specials then

noble wasp
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Gotta find a climbable box first. Alright, thanks

cedar zenith
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Alternatively, just jump

spice veldt
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there's a mod to change your height serverside

potent echo
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just started psyker, deimos oneshot is back baybee

spice veldt
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and knocking crushers right to the ground for some reason

potent echo
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yea well

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it was a nice fling with duellies

spice veldt
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noooooooo

potent echo
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yea why does deimos H2 cling crushers

cedar zenith
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Deimos good

potent echo
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didnt they fix the rending bug

slate oasis
tame venture
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i made mine min height because why else would he be so angry all the time

potent echo
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deimos doesnt even need +maniac any more to oneshot

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muties

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wow

echo turtle
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Yup

potent echo
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minus the crit chance

echo turtle
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Surge is BiS but that's great

potent echo
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pick up unyielding

tame venture
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sprint eff
😔

echo turtle
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Sprint efficiency is a choice

slate oasis
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other than the sprint efficiency and charge rate it's decent

echo turtle
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I've been running a creeping flames build tonight with a surge staff and it's been doing great

cedar zenith
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Sustained fire to surge

echo turtle
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I've seen a lot of people taking smite with it, does the +1 target make a huge difference?

I am just not really using smite a lot except as an "OH SHIT" button

cedar zenith
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Stamina to carapace

echo turtle
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I'm deliberately not taking empowered

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Going with charhes

cedar zenith
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That’s why people are running smite with surge

echo turtle
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I've seen people run creeping flames and surge without abusing the bug

storm pagoda
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what are optimal perks for a dueling sword? flak/maniac or are unarmored or infested any good?

gusty furnace
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Hey

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sparkys

potent echo
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gamers

gusty furnace
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how the fuck are people doing so much with lightning staff

potent echo
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its a bug

gusty furnace
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Explain

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in ogryn terms

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preferably

potent echo
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they are unimaginative and cheating

gusty furnace
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Okay, but like actually. What the hell is going on with palpatine staff

potent echo
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i dont really want to promote it its a scourge

gusty furnace
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my only guess would be that empowered psionics is affecting it or something

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cause smite is right there

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that or warp charges are doing funny shit

cedar zenith
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So the 125% bonus damage to smite

gusty furnace
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Yep

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that tracks

cedar zenith
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Applying to surge staff because fatshot spaghetto code

gusty furnace
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I was wondering how this sparkhead was two-shotting everything

slate oasis
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I'm excited to see what breaks next when they fix the surge staff bug

gusty furnace
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99 bugs on the wall

Take one down, pass it around

152 bugs on the wall

echo turtle
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I was running the surge tonight without the bug in a creeping flames build and was #1 in damage most of my games, you don't need to exploit the bug to do well with it

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You spam it and use CDR and your nova to keep spamming it and apply soul blaze to everything

modest edge
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Everybody is partying with surge staff whilst I'm here enjoying time with my purgy boi.

cedar zenith
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Purging with malicious intent

modest edge
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It makes me feel warm inside

echo turtle
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Does slaughterer still increase soul blaze damage?

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Oh, I also noticed my surge staff procs uncanny strike from my sword, which I assume is also giving bonus damage to the surge and to the flames

still hearth
echo turtle
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Interesting, anyone ever testef what effect uncanny strike has on soul blaze?

unique mist
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Left is better overall, better blessing combo

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stats and sprint efficiency are a meh

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surge is only good with Warp Nexus

spice veldt
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perilous combustion + uncanny strike whatthefuck_heresy

unique mist
viral solstice
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it's only polite

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they're only gary to their friends

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gary, barry and terry

raw drift
maiden hornet
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Emperor favours me

crimson cloud
maiden hornet
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wondering if that quell speed is going to important

crimson cloud
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I often stay at crit so quell speed is more important than res to me. not that I wouldn't mind having had 5 more base stats in res to 380

maiden hornet
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the grind never ends does it and here I thought I can stop pulling for surge staffs

wet cloak
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I'm one of those noobs who still only have a surge staff with 66% crit bonus, but it's 380 in total.

crimson cloud
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feeling that infinite dodge nerf on warp sword. It used to be that I preferred having as low res as possible because I needed to crit instantly and start slashing through hordes but since I need to actually block and limit dodges, going to crit instantly is somewhat of an issue.

karmic fractal
wet cloak
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But you can quell 4% on a weakspot hit :D

potent echo
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speed is better than resistance because of the quell speed talent mainly

silk hawk
potent echo
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1/4 is decent

karmic fractal
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right ™️

potent echo
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i mean unyielding KEKW_ogryn

wet cloak
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Can't do without it

karmic fractal
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yeah unyielding is a bit sadge as well, but virtually the first t4 roll I got

potent echo
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unyielding is best pick

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the buffs to deimos it one shots mutants with H2 even without maniac

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so you dont really need maniac

wet cloak
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I'm wondering if I should drop kinetic deflection for perilous combustion with my warp charge + assail + surge staff build

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I do like me blocking.

karmic fractal
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Anyone down to complete some Psyker penances? keklaugh_pdx

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imagine having friends in this economy

potent echo
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why not just give up a toughness node hmmgryn

wet cloak
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Problem is everything in connected now, so nothing can really go

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I've stretched my build quite thin

still hearth
potent echo
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there must be something else you can drop

still hearth
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And also play Empowered Psionics for the Surge memes

wet cloak
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I don't want to abuse the bug :i

potent echo
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please no i want to enjoy my games whatthefuck_heresy

still hearth
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Then play a different staff instead of using a bad one

potent echo
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surge is fine tbh, could be worse

still hearth
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People thinking Surge is good because it can do the same DPS other staves that do more does

karmic fractal
wet cloak
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I like me surge staff, I refuse to ever go trauma.

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I spit on it.

still hearth
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I wish people started hating on Surge as much as they hate on knife

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It deserves it

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Back into the bin

karmic fractal
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surge + smite buffs == twoshotting crushers tho

potent echo
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yea say that again next patch KEKW_ogryn

still hearth
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Yes but people don't run that

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And instead 5 shot crushers

wet cloak
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Me and a smite psyker carried a damnation match

potent echo
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cheating > carried
ok

karmic fractal
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just use and abuse while still here

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we in here for a good time, not a long one, right?

still hearth
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It's not a bug its intended

wet cloak
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But it feels so cheap

karmic fractal
still hearth
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It feels cheap to actually kill things with Surge

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You're right

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Because its a shit weapon

maiden hornet
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i can never use empowered sionics with smite and surge staff cause it is always bugged ffs

karmic fractal
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ehh still more useable than a voidstrike

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change my mind

wet cloak
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It's better than trauma, waiting five seconds to get a big aura, stagger people just for them to get back up!

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That's right!

still hearth
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Voidstrike one-shotting crushers

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Less useable than Surge that needs 5s to kill one

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Spamming charges

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With 0 AoE

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And 1 cleave for 0 damage

wet cloak
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But voidstrike doesn't look fancy while doing it

still hearth
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Ah yeah

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Trauma

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With 1.3s charge time

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Compared to Surge 1s

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That's way too long

wet cloak
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Downgrade.

still hearth
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Meanwhile Trauma does the same damage to an AoE as Surge

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And staggers in a 10m AoE

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Yeah definitely comparable

wet cloak
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But it's not lightning

still hearth
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Look just say

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You enjoy a bad weapon

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Its okay

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You can enjoy bad things

stable violet
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admit it!

wet cloak
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You do know I'm just messing with you right?

still hearth
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No

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I'm autistic

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And I don't know you

wet cloak
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Fair enough

still hearth
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Nah I figured but some people are

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Literally liek that though

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So its hard to know when someone is just being stubborn because they like their lightning stick

wet cloak
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I've mostly just started using it, I used to be a purgatus main

still hearth
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Purgatus my beloved

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The third worst staff

wet cloak
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When you procced BB and got warp charges

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on the old talent tree

stable violet
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what if i just wanna torture anything in the way?

still hearth
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Torture your team

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Its more fun

wet cloak
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Purgatus is kinda bad though

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Takes too long to kill anything

stable violet
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ah yes i kill everything before my team sees it

still hearth
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I mean Purgatus TTK on hordes is pretty nuts rn

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With its AoE

spice veldt
#

it's a DoT weapon so it is what it is

still hearth
#

Arco buff soulblaze pls

spice veldt
#

can't really go wrong with purg since it's an infinite cleave weapon and has respectable stagger on the LMB

#

no

#

die

wet cloak
#

I like to use assail when the veteran takes out his power sword, activates it and then the horde is already dead because I stood behind him and waited for my moment.

still hearth
stable violet
#

i just like using the voidstrike

#

its too fun not to spam the blue ball of death

silk hawk
#

Even without a bug surge can still 3shot crushers while using warp charges....

wet cloak
#

I haven't used voidstrike since patch 13, is it still as deadly against everything?

still hearth
#

People be like "Purgatus has short range so shooters are a problem" meanwhile me spraying fire not even close to enemies and scaring them.

#

Voidstrike lost like 20% damage ish

#

Which mean it still one-shots crushers with surge

#

So

stable violet
#

yeah

still hearth
#

In the end it didn't change much at all

wet cloak
#

It's definitely getting nerfed more in the next patch then

stable violet
#

but we all know ogryn is the kindest there is

still hearth
#

Hopefully they nerf the cleave

#

And not the damage

#

Remove the bulwark cleave

#

Make it shoot through 3 hitmass

#

Easy

unique mist
#

NOT THE STAFF

#

jesus christ this is the third time

near wyvern
silk hawk
#

Kekw

unique mist
#

it's literally on the second staff

wet cloak
#

But I do like me lightning stick now

spice veldt
#

voidstrike is basically psyker's only precision force weapon, so I really would gear it towards single-target until they release a proper precision staff

unique mist
#

the good thing about voidstrike is that its cc/not single target capabilities always directly benefit from any single target buffs

silk hawk
#

Assail is your proper precision tool

spice veldt
#

god bless bandaid fixes

wet cloak
#

You don't really need a blitz with voidstrike do you? Just take the flayer perk on the BB tree.

spice veldt
unique mist
#

surge? warp nexus? warp flurry? all enhance its crowd clear capabilities

still hearth
#

Just in case

unique mist
#

voidstrike is seriously underrated as a crowd clear tool

silk hawk
#

Aiming is for nerds xD

spice veldt
#

true

still hearth
spice veldt
#

this is why i'm on my vet binge again

#

they gave vet a melee that can two-shot crushers so i'm on that veteran grindset

near wyvern
unique mist
#

and you know whats funny? Surge staff is more in the "single target" vein seeing as it only really does damage to one target at a time

#

but voidstrike is just better

still hearth
#

Surge staff:
Less damage than AoE staves, damages one target.

#

Fatshark logic in a nutshell

#

The less enemies you can hit the less damage you do

#

Somehow 0.3s charge time is meant to make up for doing 0 AoE I guess

wet cloak
#

Fatshark still hasn't figured out what they want to do with BB

still hearth
#

It's doing what it's meant to do

spice veldt
#

i think that BB is fairly defined

still hearth
#

It's just a bad option in the game

spice veldt
#

but it needs more complexity added to really add more strength to it

still hearth
silk hawk
#

Auto aim and cc of surge make life much easier thou xD

still hearth
#

You can miss Surge

unique mist
#

fatshark slaps on a critical bonus perk on Surge staff and thinks that will make it worth running

near wyvern
#

It's pretty hard to miss tho

still hearth
#

Sure

#

But it's not 100%

#

And people talk like its hard to hit Voidstrike

wet cloak
#

You say that but they've added more dmg to the secondary of assail, so BB is less needed now.

silk hawk
still hearth
#

But the projectile is 10x bigger than any gun

#

So idk

spice veldt
#

evidently, they had brain burst in mind when they designed assail's RMB

still hearth
#

Trauma is also very easy once you get a hang of how it works, its just fucked in some situations like stairs

unique mist
#

and you know something that really pisses me off about Surge staff? it deals most of its damage in the final tick, the pullback/closing of the hand animation. but you can straight up cancel that final high damage tick if you quell while the animation is playing...

silk hawk
still hearth
unique mist
#

im saying quell should not interrupt the animation and instead queue up right after

still hearth
#

Uhh no

wet cloak
still hearth
#

Surge is already too fast

#

This is a skill check

#

Enjoy

unique mist
#

ur mom

wet cloak
#

I've also noticed it's a lot harder to blow yourself up now, what's even the point of playing Psyker now?

#

D:

unique mist
#

idk what you mean

silk hawk
spice veldt
#

😔

unique mist
#

i blow myself up plenty

spice veldt
#

i'm personally not a fan of the quelling buffs, but they are what they are

unique mist
#

let me guess

wet cloak
#

I like quelling in 2 seconds.

unique mist
#

if you ever reached 100 peril you blew up?

still hearth
#

Only if you spend peril close enough to 100

#

Depending on what you're using

summer prairie
#

soulblaze seems to be around 25% of total dmg when running voidstrike with the SB nodes, or maybe +30% compared to not running

still hearth
#

Or if you have Scrier's on

wet cloak
#

Scrier's is a trap.

silk hawk
#

That would completely break bb spam on bosses....

still hearth
#

Scrier's require its own build to work

spice veldt
#

if not the quelling buffs, then I assume you're referring to the stuff on the bottom-left branch leading into warp siphon?

#

or smite auto-quelling

#

can't think of anything else with regards to making it easier to not blow up

wet cloak
#

I assume Scrier's is mostly for those abominations known as gunspykers

#

jk :P

still hearth
#

Abominations that do like 6k boss DPS

#

Disgusting

wet cloak
#

Still abominations though

silk hawk
#

Why nobody talks about disrupted destiny being a complete garbage too, or is just me?

spice veldt
#

nobody uses it enough for it to come up in discussions

silk hawk
#

Ye bcuz it req a serious buff to be at least competitive versus other choices....

spice veldt
#

eh

#

at it's core, I think it seems fine

#

just that it has two bugs hampering it

#
  • refresh mechanic not working properly
  • marked enemies not glowing at all
#

the buff is very appreciable, esp if running weapons that can benefit from the +weakspot and +crit dmg

silk hawk
#

I tried it with assail, in theory it should be good, but in fact near to zero efficiency...

spice veldt
#

it's hard to say how it would be if it worked properly since we currently have a bunch of bugs

#

assail would be the one case where disrupt destiny is very nice

silk hawk
#

But enemies were glowing for me, at least some of them did

spice veldt
#

you can get some nutty efficiency on assail shards esp if they're crit weakspot shards

#

yeah they glow sometimes

#

and they stop glowing randomly at times

#

you'll notice that you'll get stacks from killing non-glowing enemies sometimes

#

and that's because they're marked but not glowing

#

it's very annoying and throws a major wrench into disrupt destiny

#

I run it since I don't feel like running EP and warp siphon is too point-expensive of a branch for me to go into

still hearth
#

I've actually never had the issue with enemies not glowing.

spice veldt
#

🥺

still hearth
#

Warp Siphon having two extra nodes to ge tthe value is

#

Interesting design

potent echo
#

I've never seen a brusier glow before

spice veldt
#

and having talents that I don't consider very impactful

still hearth
#

Cause bruisers don't glow

spice veldt
#

Puppet Master is peepee poopoo

#

Solidity is nice but I don't run staffs enough to care about it

potent echo
#

But they refill my DD

still hearth
#

I'm pretty sure DD is only on elites, specicals and ranged enemies

spice veldt
#

also includes bruisers

potent echo
#

Bruisers count

still hearth
#

Maybe bruisers are the bugged ones then

potent echo
#

Yea they are

spice veldt
#

i don't believe specials count, since I've never seen a special glow or grant stacks

still hearth
#

Because I don't think they ever glow for me

potent echo
#

Specials don't count, no

summer prairie
#

Non-horde lesser enemies should all count

silk hawk
#

I also think that 25m is too short distance for that perk...

spice veldt
#

maulers notably don't glow sometimes, so the problem doesn't seem to be localized to bruisers

#

i would not want DD to have a much longer range, though I suppose you can control the marks to an extent anyways

potent echo
#

I think it's just the melee types don't glow

spice veldt
#

maybe

#

I do have a stronger sense of confidence getting stacks when fighting ranged enemies with DD taken than against melee enemies

umbral helm
#

the times I've run it I tend to average around 10-12 stacks, but I have to be super aggressive to upkeep them since if anyone but you kills the enemy you get squat

still hearth
#

Assail the enemies

#

What if

#

We made Assail RMB

#

Just shoot all charges at once

plucky flax
still hearth
#

Corpse abuser

#

Now do it with healthbars on

#

So we can see the damage it didn't do

summer prairie
#

pretty colors

plucky flax
#

No they all died to burning.

#

My sword didn't hit them in time.

still hearth
#

Yeah the sword had nothing to do with it

plucky flax
#

Your eyes deceiving you.

still hearth
#

Hahaha

#

Truly

#

I'm sure all the red markers when you hit enemies were wrong too

plucky flax
still hearth
#

I wonder how much the soulblaze corpse pile actually did there

#

And does wildfire spread to corpses

plucky flax
#

It gives me 2nd target breakpoint.

#

So super worth it.

plucky flax
#

I'm not that good. FeelsStrongMan

still hearth
#

Yeah it's pure skill

silk hawk
idle bay
#

I'm close to 1500 missions but it's first time when i see players who take 5 minute detour to collect 2 pecies of materilas, and then through whole run completely ignore 3 (!!!!) medkits tagged next to them multiple times 🙂

viral solstice
#

im glad to see the assail changes

#

really definitely destroyed infinite elite farming with assail

#

definitely this time

#

for sure

#

ladies and gentlemen... we got em

#

damn i nearly went above 20 peril and below 8 knives

blissful ore
#

lol assail is dogshit, your webm would never happen in a game

plucky shadow
viral solstice
#

no elite kills do

#

ep knives needs a total reowrk

#

it's been stupid since inception; they need to reduce ammo count, make per knife damage good, fix the ADS knives being slow as fuck on quickswap, and make EP knives something actually cool

#

like u shoot 5 30% damage knives but ep knife kills can't trigger ep or whatever. anything to make it not something that turns the coolest quickswap ability in the game into a spamfest

#

and remove the cd reduction node and put something cool there instead, like non-assail kills and weakspot hits grant stacking damage on your next assail up to 100% or whatever

#

just encourage people to knife juggle and do sick shit

#

also assail needs to only deal weakspot damage, the fact they randomly hit weakspots and bodyshots with no way to control it, even if u aim above heads, makes their damage unpredictable which makes controlled usage suck

#

in conclusion: assail is a land of contrasts

orchid shadow
#

That's a lot of exploded brains.

viral solstice
spice oar
#

Just had a zealot try to tell me the Las pistol fucks your team and its inferior to everything else I could possibly run

cyan notch
#

time to break the record for the longest successful mission

#

who wants to afk for 3 days at the end of a mission

spice veldt
#

bad takes wouldn't happen if people just shut the fuck up about weapons that they don't use

orchid shadow
spice oar
clear heath
#

man i'm glad they buffed the staff bonk

#

playing with a new player so i had to play uprising

spice veldt
#

das the real shit

clear heath
#

did bonk-only run

#

otherwise everything would die too fast

spice veldt
#

oh shit you were actually using it?

silk hawk
clear heath
#

yeah for the entire game

spice oar
clear heath
#

actually managed to do more damage than one of the players with it

#

they were probably new

spice oar
clear heath
#

no

spice oar
#

huh

clear heath
#

it was a surge staff, so it naturally had a good amount of crit

#

maybe the crits were doing work

silk hawk
spice oar
#

were you running ep by any chance???

clear heath
#

no

#

warp charges

spice oar
#

hmm

#

i wanna do that now

clear heath
#

I was just bonking. wouldn't have helped

#

it was just uprising

#

low int uprising

#

i just needed a way to make it not boring

spice oar
orchid shadow
#

I'd be pissed if I was the animator that had to waste time on the bonk animations. They need to at least do something unique for each staff, like give a Surge bonk the old 5 low damage cc zap.

vapid lichen
#

is this fixable

spice oar
#

we allready have smite

viral solstice
spice oar
viral solstice
#

u guys know the staff bonk got buffed last patch right

#

try bonking a rager

silk hawk
#

I dream that one day they will add executions for elite+ enemies xD

clear heath
#

I'm amazed that the bonks even have an attack chain

#

with heavies and lights

spice oar
vapid lichen
#

will do, thanks

clear heath
#

second heavy bonk is actually usable for hordes

#

on low int uprising

spice oar
bleak tulip
# vapid lichen is this fixable

it's oke, change infested to flak or crit and sustained to surge if you want to get most of the way there, it's not perfect but not bricked

clear heath
#

I was just spamming light -> heavy into hordes

spice oar
#

what about your combat ability

clear heath
#

wasn't using it

#

only bonks

spice oar
#

damm

clear heath
#

i got fucked by a burster i couldn't push lmao

undone carbon
#

hows this? what do you want on deimos?

spice oar
#

You going for a tanky build with the deflector or you wanna dmg?

undone carbon
#

depends, what's the deimos specifically good for? im morseo making one for whenever I make a build that doesnt want illisi

spice oar
#

It's the best one for single target dmg

undone carbon
#

so probably single target yeah?

#

yeah

bleak tulip
#

block efficiency out for one thing

undone carbon
#

yeah block is cringe

bleak tulip
#

superiority isn't great either tbh

#

guess you can be a deflector gamer

vapid lichen
#

what perks go on a surge staff

undone carbon
#

im not mad at deflector tbh, its cute

orchid shadow
# clear heath with heavies and lights

I haven't me a game designer yet that didn't like to make things uniform across the board, so we get stuff like, "All weapons need a melee attack., and attack chains! Yes, even the staves! Sure, the players will use it. Why do you ask?"

bleak tulip
#

+25 maniac is based since it's mostly a mutie stabbing implement

bleak tulip
viral solstice
#

so yeah u can bonk ragers too

royal granite
#

i've noticed whenever i run into assail+voidstrike psykers in auric maelstrom they suck the moon out of the sky

trim garnet
#

what does this mean

royal granite
#

they are bad at the game

trim garnet
#

true!

bleak tulip
#

I mean most of them are using it as flavor of the month is the thing

trim garnet
#

i wish assail was interesting

vapid lichen
#

i have this but idk what to do for the second modification

bleak tulip
#

been seeing fewer since 14

royal granite
#

("that sucks the moon out of the sky" = sucks a lot)

bleak tulip
royal granite
#

assail would be interesting if you had to think at all when using it

trim garnet
cyan notch
#

need to find me a girl that sucks the moon out of the sky

trim garnet
#

real

royal granite
#

i'm right here

trim garnet
#

😳

viral solstice
#

also staff light hits

#

stagger ragers

#

on headshot

cyan notch
undone carbon
#

for the other deimos blessing should I take slaughterer 4 or unstable 3- and what perk should I replace block w?

royal granite
#

i used voidstrike ALL THE WAY UNTIL PATCH 13

#

it was hard to shake the habit ok

bleak tulip
#

idk just keep using it

royal granite
#

no it just feels bad at this point

bleak tulip
#

it's kind of nice to see it so what it always should have done (but then a lot more oopsie)

royal granite
#

i used voidstrike+assail for two days after skill trees, then i had a game where someone just stopped and looked at me like 5 minutes in and fucking left the game

#

and i haven't used them since

bleak tulip
#

at this point I am getting to the camp of "if revolver can two shit crushers, why shouldnt we"

#

thanks autocorrect

clear heath
#

someone must've just really liked staff bonks

bleak tulip
#

or they just listened to the playtesters

royal granite
#

i think the idea is that every weapon should have a use for the third button, after vt2 only had a handful

bleak tulip
#

someone definitely likes the bonks enough to put em in tho

royal granite
bleak tulip
#

yeah but 3 ammo is very little and revolver does it faster

#

so

royal granite
#

yeah

#

yeah like that

cyan notch
#

i remember wigglemancer days

bleak tulip
#

that's mostly why I don't actively use assail unless I feel I have to anymore

#

you're just blueballing your team

#

so I literally blue ball em instead

#

not my fault voids been the most fun staff to use since day 1

viral solstice
#

they have heavies

#

u can bayonet charge now

clear heath
#

wait they do?

viral solstice
#

hold attack and sprint with a helbore

silk hawk
#

For me it was surge then and it is now 🙂

viral solstice
#

and due to an ahem lil interaction... u can do some... interesting things with a bayonet

#

wrong video

#

that's the bayonet charge

clear heath
#

Does the bolter bash also have heavies and attack chains?

clear heath
#

I thought it didn't but maybe i misremembered

viral solstice
#

it does but more important

#

STAFF FU

karmic fractal
#

Advises Team on Sedition to not run around in circles on the Vault Mission
Get's hit with a "stop cry, this difficulty 1"

#

Player was level 30+40

spice oar
#

yk its bad when they pull out the 4chan format

karmic fractal
#

it really was an... experience

cyan notch
#

whats wrong with that

#

maybe hes just doing his weeklies

karmic fractal
#

In a mission where the team's supposed to open X Vaults to get X Relics to pop into the machine?

spice oar
#

i dont rlly get whats the issue

halcyon creek
#

I played an ammo retrieval mission yesterday where all 5 capsules were in the first train… I wasn’t expecting it, and was pretty much at the door to the second train before I realized the mission marker wasn’t there

#

Almost died too (it was vanilla diff4)

#

Would you believe there are people that don’t know there can be more than one capsule in the vault?

radiant lance
#

How's the Duelling Sword Mk II?

orchid shadow
#

Huh, this is weird. Somehow it registered that I did more damage than the Zealot with a single Brain burst on a Plague Ogryn. It died so fast I thought the Zealot one shot it, but it also died as soon as I zapped it.

toxic forge
feral verge
#

first

#

every time

#

warp resist dump stat

strong gulch
#

I'd say first. Finesse affects your attack speed and heavy 2 is easier to one shot mutants now

toxic forge
#

what perks

viral solstice
#

its heavy slash now cleaves enough to be usable

#

its lights cleave 3-4 poxwalkers and can trigger rampage by themselves

#

its heavies are better

#

its still a little bit behind but it's very usable if you like the moveset

strong gulch
#

Idk if break points are different now. It's been mutant and flak forever.

Blessing are slaughterer / uncanny strike / unstable power.

If you feel you need it, deflector is also a choice as a defensive option.

radiant lance
viral solstice
#

melee crit is not ideal but you can sprint efficiency -> whatever, precog -> uncanny and you have a very nice crit horde clearer

radiant lance
#

Is Precog worse than Riposte?

blazing echo
#

You want Uncanny Strike on there

viral solstice
#

every melee crit is 5% toughness and immunity to ranged if u have those

#

which is BANANAS on hit value

#

precog is great but can't compete sadly

radiant lance
#

And how about Precog vs Uncanny? Is Uncanny just hands down the best blessing?

viral solstice
#

also the finesse boost from destiny and scriers scale crits, but reduce the value of precogs finesse

#

uncanny is just great yeah

#

it's constant damage vs hard targets, and huge improvement vs the hardest

#

particularly because flak adm on duelling swords lights is low, so uncanny helps a lot into bruiser clusters

#

and crit, similarly, helps give you that crit penetration from 77 to 170, whereas precog scales weakspot hits less because the weakspot hits don't have the extra crit pen

#

shred is more consistent in some ways but u need to keep at least one blessing to remove sprint eff, so...

radiant lance
#

Huh, I see. So what does Mk II do better than Mk IV? The heavy 1 is like half as good

blazing echo
#

Im using this, got US on there and then gave up on the build in favour of other stuff, still use it exclusively on my psyker. Wrecks on Malice, still getting comfy enough to take it to Damnation, refuse to use Smite or Assail tho

viral solstice
#

a bit marginal?

#

but yeah it's better for light heavy cycling into hordes, but the fact its single target is so much worse makes it purely if you're somebody who doesn't mind losing a lot of single target for that benefit

#

also its light chain is like

#

whippier

steel flame
#

well i just got my hands on a handcannon 4 revolver.....

#

the handcannon bug is so stupid

#

how have they not patched that out yet

viral solstice
#

SCIENTIFIC

#

when brexit internet cooperates

blazing echo
#

🍿

steel flame
#

i should not be able to 4 hit a crusher with a devil claw -_-

viral solstice
#

im not biased im just stating Facts...

steel flame
#

i mean the hand cannon rending bullshit

viral solstice
#

i know i know im just a devil claw enjoyer i just

#

i'll miss it

#

like this is 100% balanced and Good*

#

*i have phd in claw science from claw university and can be trusted about Claw Content

#

sorry wrong vid

#

one sec

steel flame
#

that is one of the dumbest things i have ever seen

viral solstice
kind jay
#

catachan mk 69 crab claw

viral solstice
#

there we go this is the scientific analysis

#

u can see ive got the Data

steel flame
#

i love the ork science that fwoosh noises make the sword go faster

viral solstice
#

they know their shit

lethal folio
#

Duelling 2 first 3 lights are superfast

viral solstice
#

SWOOSH SWOOSH

whole oxide
viral solstice
steel flame
#

this crab propoganda is going to lead to the damnation of thousands

#

clearly we need to call in an inquisitor to smash this heretic

#

well at the very least the rending on all the crits doesnt affect fire

#

or we would have a real problem

viral solstice
#

haha

steel flame
#

lol

#

goddam fire shotguns

#

also why the fuck do they get to go to 31 stacks of fire

#

but psyker has to sit with caps of 12 and 15

#

THIS IS OPPRESION AGAINST PSYKERS

dim parrot
#

because we would be too powerful

glossy hazel
#

One is infinite and can put down stacks faster, the other consumes ammo and takes way longer to stack the dots
Go figure

dim parrot
#

it gives you +25% coolness

blazing echo
viral solstice
#

are you watching in discord?

#

open the link if that happens discord does that to me with the embed sometimes

radiant lance
#

Are there people who think Scrier's Gaze and Disrupt Destiny are good?
Please explain to me why.

blazing echo
#

Fucking B****t!

dim parrot
viral solstice
lethal folio
#

Go fast do more damage.

viral solstice
#

disrupt destiny is free damage, low investment, warp charges do nothing if u have scriers because u lose them on activating but the cd doesn't get reduced

viral solstice
#

ep is boring af and using it with assail if ur using assail properly sicks, and 1-15% damage, up to 45% weakspot and 30% crit damage is pretty zased

dim parrot
#

last part caught me off guard

viral solstice
#

sorry im british

dim parrot
#

its alright, its just in your nature

viral solstice
#

the ghost of the queen possessed me

radiant lance
lethal folio
#

It is very buggy

#

sometimes your stack icons just vanish.

dim parrot
#

im combining warp charges and ep I thinkpogryn

viral solstice
#

yeah its annoying but i just take the 30s version and kill every bruiser on suspicion of being secretly blue and get mostly high uptime

#

as a wise man once said

#

it ees... wat it ees...

radiant lance
#

Just hard to justify taking anything other the Emp Psi with Psychic Leeching

still hearth
#

It's very easy

dim parrot
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what does pl for u?

still hearth
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In fact I literally never take it

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Even on builds that spam EP

radiant lance
still hearth
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Have you heard of this thing called

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Dodging

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And free Dodging on crits

dim parrot
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lmao what is this, darksouls?

still hearth
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Which is basically 100% uptime with Assail

radiant lance
still hearth
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The only reason to take that node is to uhh

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Give toughness to your Vets

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Because everyone else can just breahte and they got 100% toughness

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Psyker gets toughness from everything

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Ogryn has 66% toughness DR passively

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Zealot lmao

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Idk it felt pretty meaningless to me

toxic forge
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What do you guys use EP with

still hearth
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When you're spamming assail you get so much toughness anyway

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Assail or Surge staff for funny damage