psyker-class

[rain meadow]

30 seconds is pretty short, can psyker can get that waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay down

meh, aoe fire is fun

creeping flames my beloved

[digital narwhal]

Only times I've blown up are when the game eats my inputs and/or buffers them due to lag, causing me to spaz a bit.

[rain meadow]

https://youtu.be/fgZ9L2yTtF8
@digital narwhal

audio is fucked but my point still stands

pressing 1 button to delets massive hordes is pretty sweet

[digital narwhal]

Don’t forget that Warp Rider affects Soulblaze DoT, so pump that Peril back up for higher tick damage

Might come in handy against groups of Elites

[rain meadow]

yes im aware

[digital narwhal]

[burnt island]

Tempting.. Very tempting..

[orchid shadow]

I'm sure the math is correct, but I'm always quelling, so I don't really feel the difference. That last Surge before critical? I can definitely feel that though. Also, I run Enhance Psionics so unfortunately no warp Siphon for me. 😦 Shriek is almost always on cooldown for me. Doggo? Scream. I see a red line? That's a scream.

[rain meadow]

the range on creeping flames is frankly stupid

[digital narwhal]

I’m so used to giving advice that it’s just become second nature to me now.

I just-

do it

[digital narwhal]

If it’s personal preference on Warp Resistance vs Quell Speed, then that’s fine, I’m not here to argue opinions.

But Quell Speed is what most people will want.

Quell Speed stacked with the -5% Peril Generated nodes and the +30% Quell Speed Talent makes for a highly effective spam build that new players will be able to easily use, hence why I always recommend Quell Speed over Warp Resistance.

[lone urchin]

with uping the blessing is this a keep or scrap?

[rain meadow]

thats a damn good staff

[digital narwhal]

You could go two ways with this-

Secondary Fire Spam

or Surge fishing

(If you have the Surge Blessing)

[lone urchin]

should i do surge and warp nexus?

[rain meadow]

shield is for people who dont want to deal with ranged units, venting shriek is for people who dont want to deal with peril

both are good tho

[digital narwhal]

If you run a Crit Build (Right side Talents), then Surge and Warp Nexus
If you run a “Standard” Build (Left side Talents), then Warp Flurry + Transfer Peril

If you go with Surge + Warp Nexus, then change Unarmoured to Crit Chance
If you go with Warp Flurry + Transfer Peril, then change Unarmoured to Maniac or Flak

[rain meadow]

kinda hoping that smite is eventually given a temp warp resistance on kill or quell on kill stat withh empowere psionics eventually

[digital narwhal]

Do remember you can Shriek without interrupting the Smite

[rain meadow]

so that you can have significantly increased duration when ur just slaughtering trash

[rain meadow]

yes

[digital narwhal]

But ye

[rain meadow]

its be cool

[ornate hamlet]

long load times anyone?

[digital narwhal]

The buffs it’s seeming to be getting don’t seem like they’ll be enough

[rain meadow]

yeah thats what im thinking

[digital narwhal]

As of recent, I’ve sometimes gotten infinite loading screens

[rain meadow]

infinite lightning is clearly over powered

so while im sad to see it go its understandable

but like

[ornate hamlet]

crazy crazy

[rain meadow]

maybe just situationally extended lightning please?

obviously being able to perma stun entire mixed hordes is NOT balanced

but it IS undeniably fun

so i hope they can eventually meet us half way on that

[digital narwhal]

Trauma Staff is typing…

[rain meadow]

thats not PERMA, you will eventually run into peril issues

[digital narwhal]

But a bad Trauma user can blow enemies into areas they aren’t needed-

[rain meadow]

you can really only stun chunks of the horde

and it makes them harder to weakspot hit

etc etc

[scarlet barn]

is there a BIS like in vermentide?

[rain meadow]

bis?

[digital narwhal]

Tbf, Trauma’s knockdown is so strong that you can Quell to 0% by the time enemies get up

[scarlet barn]

best in slot

[digital narwhal]

BiS what?
Load out?
Build?

[rain meadow]

yes and no

[scarlet barn]

Like "This item is the best its ever going to get"
type thing

[rain meadow]

CURRENTLY best in slot psyker secondary is voidstrike

but

only kinda

[digital narwhal]

Every weapon is viable; some are better than others, but fortunately everything has its own role right now.
But Voidstrike is insanely OP and is gonna get sledgehammered any day now.

[scarlet barn]

I mean for stats on the weapon

sorry

[digital narwhal]

Case by case

[rain meadow]

yeah

[digital narwhal]

Ask per weapon

[rain meadow]

crit is good, but only on crit builds, etc

[scarlet barn]

I just remember in vermentide if you got a bow one of thee colors was "This thing has the highest stats you can possibly get" kinda deal

[rain meadow]

colours only dertimine number of bonuses

grey is 0, green is 1 perk, blue is 1 perk 1 blessing, purple is 2 perks 1 blessing, orange is 2 perks 2 blessings

the % stats you see are randomized and i think based of of your character level iirc?

[crimson remnant]

Any clue on when the patch 14 comes out?
This week maybe?

[steel flame]

Yeah we don't have red yet

Kinda hope they do something more interesting than red in vermintide

[digital narwhal]

My best guess is this week, ye

[rain meadow]

maybe SUPER blessings?????

[scarlet barn]

tyvm

[rain meadow]

would be kinda cooool

like overclocks from drg

[digital narwhal]

Maxed Stats, maybe?

[rain meadow]

i want overclocks dammit

ONE of the overclocks could be maxed stats

but then you could have overclocks that to wild zanny shit

[scarlet barn]

thats the red weapons i was trying to talk about

but could not gconvay

[digital narwhal]

Reds aren’t a thing yet in DT then

Ye

[ornate hamlet]

does crit chance apply on assail

[rain meadow]

clearly these are maxed stats pants

[steel flame]

assail can crit

so yes

Brain rupture and smite cannot crit

[severe folio]

smite cant crit ?

making bb crit could have been a good direction

[steel flame]

you could count a flayer proc on a brainburst as a bb crit

if you squint and tilt your head a bit

[severe folio]

🤨

nah it didnt work

[restive slate]

What if they change bb to always one shot enemies but take longer the higher the healthpool hahaha

[steel flame]

sounds like a nightmare

[restive slate]

Charging my attack on assassination boss

[steel flame]

would rather just take dueling saber for that

[restive slate]

Yea just entertaining a thought

[severe folio]

depend on

[spice veldt]

making it a more granular weapon would help

[severe folio]

how long they scaling it

if the cast time gonna be

[restive slate]

Granular?

[severe folio]

abhorrent

[steel flame]

......dafuq does that even mean

[spice veldt]

as in you don't need to deal damage in 1275 damage chunks

[steel flame]

want to make it out of sand?

[restive slate]

I don't want granules in my brain

[spice veldt]

e.g., if we could always shoot brain burst at any charge from the RMB

[restive slate]

Oh like a dot?

[steel flame]

would be interesting to just make it like staves

[severe folio]

shoot brain burst

thats an assail then

lol

[restive slate]

I just imagined purgatus but brainburst

Pop a whole horde heads at onc3

[severe folio]

that

naaah they wouldnt

unless ?

nah they wouldnt

but unless ?

nah

[steel flame]

why the fuck is it that every time i try to update vermintide 2 specifically, it blue screens my pc

wtf

[spice veldt]

though you'd still have that animation after each cast

[severe folio]

game old

[restive slate]

Necro Sienna has brainburst of sorts haha

[spice veldt]

so it'll always maintain that clunkiness if you try to use it in smaller chunks

but will be better nevertheless

[steel flame]

can always just quell cancel the animation

thats what i do

[steady yarrow]

warp resistence is dump for surge? Why diff from void?

[spice veldt]

o you can quell cancel it now?

[steel flame]

i dunno

maybe

[severe folio]

what do you mean maybe

its either you do or you dont

[steel flame]

you could before

[severe folio]

so you couldnt anymore

[steel flame]

havent tried it in 13

[severe folio]

then why bring it up

[restive slate]

Isces Yoda

[steel flame]

silence

[severe folio]

stupid

brain burst yourself

[clear heath]

we still don't have the date for the patch yet right?

[steel flame]

you cant qc it anymore

[restive slate]

Ahem, its brain rupture these days, educate yourself ....lol

[steel flame]

awesome

[severe folio]

oh yeah it has new name

[steel flame]

hope we can again with the changes in patch 14

[severe folio]

they should make it ball rupture

[restive slate]

Testicular Torsion blitz, thats what we need

My Beloved says Balls be Gone!

[severe folio]

instead of headless enemies you see them slump over on the ground crawling

now thats what i call chastise the wicked

[restive slate]

Cratered crotch in flames

[severe folio]

cook the sack

like egg in microwave

[dry dune]

I hate Cliffhanger

[restive slate]

There should be a mod on this

Change position of headpop to crotch

[cold bramble]

I'm starting my first Psyker character, any tips for good weaponry?

[severe folio]

well

since youre starting out maybe youd want a horde weapon

maybe a horde melee weapon

[restive slate]

Purgatus and Duelling sword is safe bet

Or Void and Illisi

[severe folio]

(feel like he might not have enough soulblaze perks

and staffs, do they spawn at the beginning ?

[restive slate]

I think we get Trauma first

[cold bramble]

I feel like it's worth mentioning I know nothing about Psyker

[dry dune]

The force sword doesn’t have the best push :/ it only pushes one guy at a time

[severe folio]

you do ?

i couldnt get any staff at first

[restive slate]

Not at the beginning

Did not word that properly haha

[severe folio]

well

then maybe he should check his melee options firsthand

and magic later

[dry dune]

I might go back to just devils claw and try using shriek to get Cliffhanger

[strong gulch]

Push attack pushes one target very stronlgy. The push pushes a lot of targets.

[ornate hamlet]

where do i get new weapons'

[restive slate]

Smite push may help

[severe folio]

maybe a devil claw sword or illisis

[severe folio]

the armory

[restive slate]

Armoury

[dry dune]

I’d have to reconfigure my whole tree then aaaaaaaa

[ornate hamlet]

where

thankyou

[restive slate]

Right side of mourningstar

[dry dune]

I wish it was just easier to do

[restive slate]

We can have multiple loadouts

[ornate hamlet]

im at the begging by the mission term

[severe folio]

then

[restive slate]

It may not be unlocked yet if you just started

[severe folio]

youll eventually see everything as you play

need to do more missions

[ornate hamlet]

ohh noice noice thankyou

[restive slate]

Homie kisses

[dry dune]

How powerful is the push

And how many can be pushed at a time

[potent echo]

As many as you have chained the lightning to

[dry dune]

Huh

[potent echo]

It takes time to spread

[restive slate]

Smite push often overlooked, its very strong and hits loads... plus, you can do it at range

[dry dune]

And is the push decently powerful?

[potent echo]

Yes it knocks any trash on its ass

[dry dune]

Nice

I think I know the map to do it on

As long as my teammates don’t steal the kills like the did the last time I almost got it

[restive slate]

Heres a trick with Smite Push, after zapping if you look right and release you will throw the enemies to the rigt

[potent echo]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1zGHRhs4qdiz4I/spok?invite=cr-MSxiTWcsMTk5OTY0MzA3LA

[dry dune]

Same with left?

[restive slate]

Yup

Lots of CC potential thats overlooked

[dry dune]

So hold, look left/right, and release?

Also smite takes forever to charge how did you get it instantly

[potent echo]

Smite charges instantly

[dry dune]

Oh it does?

[potent echo]

Yea

[dry dune]

Huh

Now I feel like I wasted so much time

If only I had known that before

[finite falcon]

The community really hates Psykers using Assail, huh

[dry dune]

I can see why tbh

[burnt island]

One man power houses. As a vet main, I don't mind them because I don't hunt horde. I tunnel vision and snipe anything that's taggable.

[finite falcon]

aside from some kind of weird jealously, it doesn't make any sense. Maybe it's a bit overtuned and easy to use, but if someone sucks at the game they are going to suck using Assail or not. But people just seem to automatically invalidate everything a person does/says if they realize they're using Assail

at least on the reddit... but that's also reddit

I can replicate anything I can do with Assail using an Ogryn or Vet but if you've used Assail Psyker you're apparently just tainted

honestly Ogryn even does it better

[severe folio]

fuk em kids

[burnt island]

I think it's mostly the psykers that use Assail as a primary weapon that give it a bad name.

[lyric rapids]

Does actually do damage to the large nurgle bosses compared with the other abilities?

[near wyvern]

Reddit

[severe folio]

i dont think any psyker blitz aside from bb does proper damage to the monstrosity

[finite falcon]

about as much as someone shooting them with a gun, using a sword is pretty much always better no matter what unless you use brain burst

[near wyvern]

BB does not do good DPS against monstrosities

[dry dune]

I love brain burst on monstrosities

[finite falcon]

Assail pretty much just kills elites near instantly from extremely long range and very little need to aim and wipes hordes without even needing to aim at all, etc, it's extremely strong outside of boss damage

[near wyvern]

@finite falcon
The problem with Assail is that you can use it as a main weapon. You have a ranged auto-aiming weapon that deals with anything except Crushers, Bulwarks and Mutants, that is always available and piss easy to use.

The solution would be to just make it so you need to choose when to use it (increase time it takes to recharge shards or regain them in bulk). Instead they just gonna nerf the spam damage a bit which I doubt is going to change much.

[spice veldt]

it's also flashy and an obvious option to build into

[upper galleon]

Yes they will suck

[spice veldt]

so I get why it draws a lot of hate

it's basically psyker's autopistol

i don't see many ogryns building into fire bullet gunlugger

[upper galleon]

But it is equally frustrating to have a bad assail psyker as it is to have a good one

[spice veldt]

at least on NA west

(I don't see many ogryns in general)

[snow coral]

I see them pretty regularly

had one in every run tonight

[finite falcon]

on Malice it even deals with Mutants, so yeah, I agree it's extremely strong and overtuned right now. They probably need to either increase the Peril gain from it or reduce the amount of ammo stock/recharge rate, imo

[upper galleon]

I dipped cause 2 players got dead and this fucking assail psyker saw the horde and pulled out his surge staff

[near wyvern]

I tried it with the slow firing ripper gun that has the full auto brace. Holy shit the monstrosity damage.

[severe folio]

what about on damnation and auric

[spice veldt]

and I was made aware of ogryn's DR and the fact that a good portion of their god damn DR is actually additive unlike psyker's

[upper galleon]

Like nah im not carrying with that thing in my backpack

[snow coral]

assail does work there as well

[upper galleon]

Assail is great with EP in auric

[severe folio]

what is EP

[upper galleon]

I think the warp charge build is alright too but i dont care for it

[near wyvern]

I only play auric damnation:
#psyker-class message

[upper galleon]

Empowered psionics keystone

[spice veldt]

assail is still gr8 at hishock cuz 100% armour damage modifiers against maniac

[dry dune]

Oh yeah so I saw this on a comment on YouTube, what’s an endless horde?

[spice veldt]

and if you're running an uncanny strike melee, you can use assail to deal damage to carapace https://streamable.com/zjpqc5

[severe folio]

i think its self explanatory

[finite falcon]

I just don't understand the massive community hate for people that use it at all, I could completely carry a group with it and people are still gonna be like, "assail psyker is all I needed to hear, you must suck at team play"

[upper galleon]

I can get all 4 top of tree toughness feats and top dps while being functionally invincible as long as i keep doing things

[upper galleon]

It is exactly like old rambo vet

[spice veldt]

being the only blitz that can take advantage of perks and blessings on another weapon

[upper galleon]

You fuck with your own perception using it

[near wyvern]

Some events just keep spawning units until you do the objective. There was also a bug some time ago where a certain mission bugged out and never ended a horde during the regular mission, so you had to really fight your way through heretics.

[finite falcon]

some people, maybe, but I don't exclusively play Psyker

[dry dune]

Oh, neat.

[upper galleon]

Going from assail back to zealot makes me realize that gunners/shooters are an actual threat when they arent getting sharded

[finite falcon]

I've never gotten any hate from anyone for carrying with an Ogryn gunlugger and mowing down essentially everything before anyone else could get a chance to shoot stuff

[dry dune]

Is it only Auric where there’s endless horde?

[upper galleon]

Gunlugger is an ammo hog

And still an ogryn

[severe folio]

maybe its just blind hate

[spice veldt]

assail is pretty flashy and more obviously seen as a "low skill investment + high damage output" skill

[severe folio]

because someone told them to hate it

[spice veldt]

it is irrational, but I can see why people think that way

[severe folio]

just fuk em kids

[upper galleon]

Low skill+overtuned = weapon will get hate

[spice veldt]

TRUE

[severe folio]

who cares about them

[valid talon]

Hey guys, are they nerfing the voidstrike next patch? I just found out it can stunlock plague ogrys with headshots...

[upper galleon]

Imo void is stronger than assail by far but… void is not as easy as assail is

[near wyvern]

that's because the ult is not always on

You have bullets and CD, Assail in all reality really doesn't

[upper galleon]

Yes you can go read the next patch notes (havent dropped yet) #📢news-bulletin

[restive slate]

Anyone plays Disrupt Destiny?

[spice veldt]

i do sometimes

[valid talon]

Lmao disrupt destiny

[severe folio]

i do

[restive slate]

I like the concept but it feels too unpredictable

[severe folio]

i play it with guns

[near wyvern]

Yes, void is ridiculously broken. All you need is Surge and True Aim and off you go.

[upper galleon]

DD is sad

[valid talon]

I feel like the keystones for psyker are all kinda bad

[spice veldt]

yeah, and there's a bug where marked enemies don't glow

[severe folio]

gun and dueling sword

[valid talon]

IDK, maybe a brain burst empowered could work

[severe folio]

when it work i can feel the effect but when its not its horrible

[upper galleon]

EP is great and warp charges are great besides having quicken built in

[near wyvern]

Warp Siphon is usable for smite + creeping flames spam

[restive slate]

I noticed that, the heretics flashed me and go dark again

[upper galleon]

It does and it will be even stronger next patch

[near wyvern]

Something the people haven't picked on

It's ridiculously strong

[valid talon]

Warp siphon is the most consistent but a bit boring, AND encourages you not to use your ability

[upper galleon]

DD sucks and yea everyone knows that

[severe folio]

yeah rebuilding stack for warp siphon feels rough

[near wyvern]

Except when you take creeping flames, in which case you can spam it to your heart's content

[upper galleon]

Yes besides Quicken built in which was the old feat that made F have cdr for wiping charges

[restive slate]

Building up Warp Siphon is not bad, used to it pre patch 13

[upper galleon]

Just take the 4% on ally kill

[near wyvern]

AB wiped as well

[severe folio]

4%

idk

[upper galleon]

In any auric game with the sheer amount of spawns

[severe folio]

both options feels rough to me

[upper galleon]

Its not rough at all

[worn cypress]

both options has you at 6 stacks always

[upper galleon]

You or anyone on your team killing a poxwalker rolls 4%

[severe folio]

i fuess special increased spawn does help

[solar sand]

i can usually stack it up in like 20-40s, and they never seem to fall off

once or twice ive seen it fall to 3 stacks in low level stuff

[worn cypress]

like, its been this way since pre-patch

[strong gulch]

I am afraid of zealot chat so I will post this here.

[finite falcon]

is there a particular aura that is better than others if you don't have a particular team comp? I've just been using Kinetic Presence since damage is damage and I don't see the 4% crit chance or 10% cd decrease being very efficient overall

[upper galleon]

Coward

[strong gulch]

yeee

[restive slate]

Whats going on in zealot chat this time?

[upper galleon]

Perfect world you dont want stacking auras with other psykers

[brittle ivy]

I think the notes said we lose 70 damage and they slowed the fire rate. All in all not gonna kill it so it will still be strong.

[severe folio]

horrible mobility

[severe folio]

even worse damage

[worn cypress]

most psyker build stack crit chance so it adds up

[strong gulch]

"this time" makes me even more ahhh

[upper galleon]

Mobility is a dump stat

[severe folio]

nice cleaves though

[finite falcon]

that is true

[upper galleon]

Wdym

Idk im tired

Stuff is blurring

Fuckin witch chat exposure

[compact cargo]

go sleep, ur drunk Bandit

let me take over

[upper galleon]

I wish i was drunk

Or at least high

[severe folio]

same

[solar sand]

im very high

[dry dune]

Mom said it’s my turn to be the witch in charge

[solar sand]

this is a great brain off high game

[strong gulch]

Today I dug into assail more. I really like it with fast melee. It makes knife more fun for me.

[solar sand]

especially with how easy/op pyskers are now

[compact cargo]

Run voidstrike
Congratulations you have become John Darktide

[upper galleon]

It shines most with dueling sword mk4

[severe folio]

its great until your teammate got taken by a trapper and a dog jump on you while the flamer turn you both into morning toast

[brittle ivy]

4% works great even tho it seems so small. It's a passive buff that works off you AND your teammates.

[strong gulch]

I know, but knife is more fun for me

[severe folio]

eeeee

[upper galleon]

Dueling sword can oneshot mutants with a heavy headshot and square up with crushers for some reason

[solar sand]

i saw someone say something about knifes hidden mechanics making it really good, anyone know what they meant by that?

[strong gulch]

true but I don't love DS

[compact cargo]

hsword moment

[upper galleon]

Knife is for wannabe speedrunners

[strong gulch]

Knife is for FUN

[compact cargo]

stripped for parts>knife

[strong gulch]

you know for a game

[upper galleon]

Lacerate and flesh tearer until it is done

[severe folio]

does knife do dueling sword stuff

you know

pierce carapce

do they

[upper galleon]

Yes knife can also pierce cara on heavies

[solar sand]

i got this earlier

[severe folio]

yikes

[upper galleon]

Actually pretty good damage with uncanny strike

[severe folio]

oh

hmm

wel its all above 70

i guess keep that as a lucky charm

[upper galleon]

Like i think its a 3 shot if you have uncanny pre stacked

[solar sand]

my first 380

[severe folio]

i see

[solar sand]

which is annoying cause i wanted a knife on my vet

[severe folio]

but is this with zealot or with anyone that holds a knife

[solar sand]

then pull this on my pysker

[upper galleon]

Id upgrade it try to go for uncanny+ flesh tearer

[upper galleon]

Anyone

[left crater]

which would be better to invest in, if at all? or should i salvage both and start over?

[severe folio]

damn

[brittle ivy]

I need a god roll knife but they buffed the force swords so much that it's hard to justify it over them.

[upper galleon]

Knife is a meme

[dry dune]

How is knife a meme

[upper galleon]

You need to put in a ton of effort to match normal weapons

[dry dune]

Please explain

[upper galleon]

It is run fast die fast

[dry dune]

So you run faster with a knife?

[solar sand]

chainsword damage feels almost on par

[severe folio]

yeah

[solar sand]

albeit much slower

[severe folio]

i mean

[brittle ivy]

idk bleed knife is good, they are buffing knife for more raw damage next patch. Sad they are reducing the bleed damage overall tho.

[severe folio]

yeah knife make you move faster

[upper galleon]

And most people build their knifes very poorly even to this day

[strong gulch]

Knife and DS have faster run over force swords

[compact cargo]

I just run caxe and forget

lol

[upper galleon]

Bleed knife is really only good vs unyielding

Zealot is swapping to rending backstab+ uncanny strike next patch

[severe folio]

if only some weapons can share inventory with other class

[dry dune]

DS?

[severe folio]

dueling sword

[dry dune]

All these letters are confusing

[upper galleon]

Dueling

[strong gulch]

dueling sword

[upper galleon]

Acronyms

[valid talon]

I can't believe they're buffing the dueling sword too

[spice veldt]

dick sword

[valid talon]

It 2 striking a crusher wasnt enough

[severe folio]

wait

[dry dune]

Acronyms make ma brain ‘urt, sah

[severe folio]

they buffing those ?

[brittle ivy]

now if only pskyers could get a blessing that allows 2 swings of a force sword while retaining the power up 😏

[severe folio]

how they buffing it

[spice veldt]

power cycler grindset

[severe folio]

now we only need 1 strike for crusher ?

[severe folio]

weak

[upper galleon]

Get used to it cause no one wants to type agripinna braced autogun

[valid talon]

They're increasing damage on unyielding, flak, and carapice

[upper galleon]

Instead of agri brauto

[valid talon]

● Light Attack Cleave:

○ 3 to 4.5.

● Heavy Strikedown Attack Armour Modifiers:

○ Unyielding: 75% to 100%.

○ Flak: 60% to 80%.

○ Carapace: 40% to 60%.```

[severe folio]

damn

welp

[upper galleon]

Got damn

[strong gulch]

valid. There are a lot of them. Long convos talking about the ins and outs of things can be tricky to find. Have to serach the different ways things are called.

[severe folio]

i guess i dont need knife psyker

[upper galleon]

That makes uncanny even better for that bit of damage

[severe folio]

you can put uncanny on ds ?

[spice veldt]

yeah babeeeeeeeeeeeeee

CANNY STRIKE

[dry dune]

I know a couple

[upper galleon]

Yea

[dry dune]

I know cc is crowd control

Uh

What else

[severe folio]

cdr

[spice veldt]

the humorous thing is that the current penetration scaling means that the difference between a 0% pen and 80% pen DS is only 6.8% damage against carapace with max uncanny strike stacks up

[dry dune]

Commander, obviously

Damn, did I single handedly kill this chat 💀

[severe folio]

no we just in missions

[dry dune]

Damn

I’d be grinding more if I could

But I only get 4 hours a day

And each mission usually takes a half hour

[restive slate]

You say that to all the gals?

[ivory sail]

What should i put on this?

[dry dune]

Put what on, perks, blessings?

[severe folio]

yes

[ivory sail]

i know i need uncanny strike should i roll a perk off or?

[dry dune]

Oh I have no idea

[ivory sail]

lmao

[dry dune]

I am clueless when it comes to ‘rolls’ and shit

I just use guns and swords that like

[ivory sail]

well at least ur honest xD

[dry dune]

And if it happens to have a good roll? Yay for me

Same thing with Destiny 2

I could care less about rolls

But this ain’t Destiny 2

[idle bay]

As soon as switched to Dome - i was able to let go my Illsi V with Deflector and go back to good old Antax MK V with BM 🙂 A great feeling

[dry dune]

This is better

[lyric burrow]

Swap rampage to uncanny and crit damage to carapace/crit chance imo

[ivory sail]

Thanks for the tip!

[brazen warren]

anyone know how the impact stat works?

[strong gulch]

Rampage and riposte have different play styles.

Personally, I'd keep riposte and flak. Replace rampage with uncanny and crit damage with maniac/ crit chance/ carapace/ unyielding/ what you hate most

[ivory sail]

awesome ty!

[spice veldt]

increases the stagger (how much you knock enemies over) of attacks and pushes

[frigid sparrow]

How do I tell how many stacks of soul blaze are on a target?

[severe folio]

good question

i think mods show rhat

but other than mods i dont think i can tell either

[plucky flax]

[unique mist]

can't

unless you are doing it in psykanum

[lyric rapids]

So does anyone have a full build regarding gear set up and what to use?

[unique mist]

and can approximate via damage numbers

[strong gulch]

Alright, my brain is bad.

I wasn't getting any soulblaze procs on my fire trauma. I was like "Wow. I must be really unlucky."

I didn't have fire trauma equipped. 🙃

[plucky flax]

[severe folio]

fire trauma ?

new staff ?

[strong gulch]

Nexus + blazing spirit on trauma

[severe folio]

huh

[spice veldt]

almost shanked in a back alley by selfish

[strong gulch]

If you build one, don't waste resources trying to find blazing spirit T4 on trauma. It doesn't exist for trauma. Actually, I don't think it exists at all for staves (am drawing a blank).

Question.

What are you most hand friendly builds? Builds that don't require too much mechanically to help minimize pain, weakness, and fatigue.

[olive ember]

Purge staff probably

Hold rmb and hold lmb

[strong gulch]

That's what I'm thinking. Illisi is pretty hand friendly, but has similar weaknesses to purg.

[fallow meadow]

Maybe just go to guns?

[severe folio]

hand friendly ?

[fallow meadow]

Staffs are all kinda killing my hand.

[strong gulch]

Guns are an option if you can aim well, but a good option.

[burnt island]

Lol I've been using a laspistol with full auto mod.

[strong gulch]

Full auto mod might be helpful.

[burnt island]

As a vet main, I did well with the void staff, but I wanted to try out ranged psyker

[strong gulch]

Weak hands. Hand pain. Hand fatigue.

[burnt island]

warp charge damage stacks are nice.

I'm trying not to do too much as an assail psyker, what's a good accompanying gun that is sort of a handicap for psykers?

[fallow meadow]

Reason on picking laspistol? Why not rifle or reconlas?

[livid pollen]

Anyone ? for the Redacted missions, so no chance to get that gear ?

[burnt island]

Lol because it looks and feels cool.

[orchid shadow]

Trauma has Blazing Spirit, I have a level 3 on my Trauma staff. Does it not have a 4?

[fallow meadow]

That make sense

[idle bay]

Laspistol have a really good force push

[strong gulch]

No T4. 😭

[burnt island]

I mean, I could go Tomb raider or Resident Evil with it too.

[severe folio]

ahhh

smite build maybe ?

[severe folio]

how to get that pants

[orchid shadow]

Oooof. Well, that's gonna save me some time trying to find one then. 😦

[burnt island]

Just wait for the eye patch cosmetic to come back around. Going to look full psyker merc with it.

[severe folio]

has any cosmetic ever come back

[burnt island]

The cyber eye has come back for the 3rd time.

[strong gulch]

yes. idk if all of them have. There might be a reddit post of all of them

[severe folio]

ah its the pollum verate

[orchid shadow]

I'm saddened that they stioll haven't given us back our shirtless option. 😦 All psyker gear looks like aaaaasssssssss.....

[severe folio]

shirtless ??

[burnt island]

Debating on the trader's hat.

[severe folio]

i think the trader hat pair well with the pollum vest

[idle bay]

I'm still waiting this outfit for a Psyker - Bathrobe + Boxers + Slippers.

[severe folio]

for a duelist thene

[burnt island]

Oh definitely

She looks like she's only missing a revolver and a helbore.

[severe folio]

she’ll never find it

[slate oasis]

I love the trader hat. best cosmetic

[severe folio]

but on serious note

the eye came back ? what about the outfit sets ?

has any of them come back ?

[burnt island]

Steel legion for vet came back.

About a month ago.

not in shop atm. Current item in shop is also a returnee.

[severe folio]

i see

okay, i can be hopeful to get that zealot knight armor

[hasty breach]

is there a good rule of thumb on curio stat priorities? relative noob here

[strong gulch]

I too had to get the hat.

[near wyvern]

Check Atheneum in pinned messages

[burnt island]

I'm waiting for this zealot armor to return to make a new zealot.

[orchid shadow]

It was a bug several months back, for a couple of glorious weeks, I wasn't dressed in my level 1 green prison duds.

[strong gulch]

Like a new account?

[burnt island]

A new character

[strong gulch]

Cosmetics are account wide.

[plucky flax]

Didn't buy Trader hat because of the ugly veil.

[strong gulch]

You might already know and I am misunderstanding.

[burnt island]

Lol. All good.

Yeah, I don't own it yet.

[strong gulch]

OH that is not your zealot. My bead

bad

[slate oasis]

I love that peg leg

[strong gulch]

I use my brain powers to not fall into the grate.

[burnt island]

I wish common weapons were account wide.

I would really like my bleed knife on my psyker.

[strong gulch]

Felt.

[slate oasis]

I also wish curios were account wide

[burnt island]

Hmm.. Worth?

[ornate hamlet]

hey y'all could anyone share a psyker build? i haven't played my level 30 psyker since like the original release month lol

[burnt island]

Welcome back.

[ornate hamlet]

thanks!

[burnt island]

^^Bets on this man becoming an assail user?

[strong gulch]

There's been a lot of changes and there's new weapons since release.

[ornate hamlet]

i'm looking at the skill tree for the first time and the lightning seems cool :o

[strong gulch]

TBH idk to even begin because things feel so different.

[ornate hamlet]

forreallll

it's kinda overwhelming haha

[strong gulch]

Ok that's a start. hold on.

[plucky flax]

Yeah put maniac and pinning fire 4 on it.

[unique mist]

#1158835513789272126 message
#1158835513789272126 message
take your pick

[strong gulch]

This build is from @plucky flax It used surge staff, smite, and creeping flames.

Popular big pp damage melee is Mk4 dueling sword heavy attacks or Deimos heavy 2.

Alternatively illisi is easier on hordes.

[unique mist]

lightning isn't bad, but it's not that fun, mostly because you aren't doing much of the killing yourself (it is a crowd lockdown tool, very low damage but halts pretty much an entire horde for your teammates to kill. however it basically locks you in place and you can't do anything other than hold down m1 and pray your teammates share more than one brain cell so they actually shoot the enemies

it is getting a buff next patch though

[strong gulch]

If you forgo the some nodes past the Warp Siphon keystone (purple color), you can invest more into toughness regen.

[ornate hamlet]

ohhhh thanks y'all :o i'll read through those builds

kinda wish lightning was more than CC though it looks cool haha

[strong gulch]

Fun is subjective. Surge is single target damage while smite locks a lot down but deals low damage.

Surge lightening = damage

smite lightening = CC

[slate oasis]

the lightning staff got reworked recently and is now a damage dealer rather than CC like it was, so there is good damage lighting elsewhere

[valid talon]

How good is the lightning staff vs the voidstrike?

[strong gulch]

Void Strike with blessings warp nexus and surge (the blessing not the staff) is popular for big PP damage. It is overtuned but also easy to use.

[ornate hamlet]

omg double lightning let's go

[severe folio]

wow

i mean, to be honest they let us have tattoos

idk why they didnt add anything that make use of those

[slate oasis]

I wish the lightning staff had more blessings because it's just flurry + nexus or nothing

[strong gulch]

They do very different things and feel different. Just damage wise, void is better.

You don't have to aim as much with surge tho. With smite +1 you can CC 3 targets with surge staff.

[ornate hamlet]

surge is the lightning staff right?

[slate oasis]

yeah

[ornate hamlet]

gonna try crafting a surge staff with flurry + nexus

[slate oasis]

also the psyker has a bubble shield now (alternate F ability) and it's amazing

[strong gulch]

I'd recomend playing around with a ton of weapons to get a feel for them before you fully invest into anything tho.

But also, some staves feel like garbage unless they have high stats and blessing. (looking at you trauma)

[ornate hamlet]

true true i shouldn't spend all my materials right as i come back lol

[strong gulch]

As much as meta gets talked about, don't forget to have fun.

[ornate hamlet]

i'll try to make one surge staff for now, is there an item rating i should shoot for with grays? my first one i bought was 357

[strong gulch]

Or throw your materials directly into the toilet all of the time and never have any. 😭

It's me. I shid away all my mats.

[ornate hamlet]

i was perpetually broke on my veteran x-x

i'm so thankful they merged all the crafting resources

[strong gulch]

Right??

[ornate hamlet]

oh! warp nexus!

that's one of the blessings i want right

[strong gulch]

Warp resist and quell speed are generally your dump stats.

[strong gulch]

yee

[ornate hamlet]

awesome awesome

ok ok this is what i ended up with

[slate oasis]

that's pretty decent. probably replace +stamina with flak

and barrage with flurry

[strong gulch]

Not a bad start. Charge rate is low but don't be pressed about it.

IF you like the staff at all, change the terrifying barrage blessing to warp flurry for faster secondary casting.

Change the stamina perk too.

[chrome patrol]

any flamer experts? i wonder if its a decent buy or nah

[slate oasis]

imo for surge quell speed is the least important stat to prioritize because even if it's only like 60% you'll still manually quell extremely fast

[ornate hamlet]

thanks! i rolled a couple surge staffs to green because i have a bit of plasteel and got level 4 warp flurry

[strong gulch]

The stamina could be a number of options. Kinda depends on what you hate most, what you have the most trouble with, or if you are looking for more consistency.

flack or crit chance would be my picks.

[strong gulch]

NOICE

[ornate hamlet]

that's awesome to know!

[summer prairie]

whether wr or quell speed is worse is a bit more nuanced as most of the time some additional warp resistance doesn't even let you do one extra full charge before you have to quell anyway

[ornate hamlet]

also can i just say that i LOVE that i don't have to randomly roll those small perks anymore? i can just pick from a list

[summer prairie]

and then when you are quelling from 100 down to 80 or whatever lets you do another full charge, quell is more helpful

[slate oasis]

yeah I don't like to think about the dark ages when we had to play the lottery to get perks lol

[strong gulch]

If it's a big upgrade and you have a lot of melk coins, then get it.

otherwise you want burn and cloud radius as high as possible.

[chrome patrol]

well im usually not a flamer person so i dont have a flame staff yet and i would only buy it if its quite decent

guess ill save my coins instead then ^^

[strong gulch]

The only time quell speed really matters is when you are playing high peril and quell cancel your charges. Like with chaining fire trauma. You can easily blow yourself up.

[strong gulch]

Def. save then.

[chrome patrol]

will wait and see maybe the emporer grants me one of his hairloom flamers at some point thanks ^^

[strong gulch]

You never know tbh

[severe folio]

think the cloud radius should be higher,

[slate oasis]

or be like me and blow hundreds of thousands of dockets gambling on grays at Brunt's Armory

and then have Hadron brick all the good ones

[strong gulch]

EVERY SINGLE ONE

[ornate hamlet]

holllyyy they made the quell speed SO fast

after messing around with the mk4 4 duelling sword and the deimos force sword, i think i'm going to make a force sword

[strong gulch]

It was even faster for a time.

[ornate hamlet]

dang i should've played earlier haha

[plucky flax]

First game of the day and got flamed for using assail. That's good that's good.

https://tenor.com/view/hate-gif-19575282

[severe folio]

you talk on chat ?

wow thats new

[ornate hamlet]

ummm mind if i ask what are the least important stats on the deimos force sword? sorry i'm like unloading so many questions here rn

[severe folio]

no one ever talk to me

[plucky flax]

It's text chat.

[severe folio]

im just playing with bot that doesnt have the word bot next to their name

[strong gulch]

I've seen it before and it confused the crap out of me, and now I'm doing it. I put and illisi skin on my deimos.

Watching hoarde clear sword doing deimos things is 😵‍💫

[severe folio]

never talk

[ornate hamlet]

the first game i played had australians RP'ing as ogryns the entire match and it was SO fun

[severe folio]

never communicate

[severe folio]

never ask each other how does their days goes by

[plucky flax]

(I hate it too but I am abusing it before it's nerfed.)

[severe folio]

all just sail along until one day we sink below

[ornate hamlet]

oooo tytyty

[severe folio]

but thats an obscurus skin

[ornate hamlet]

would this be good enough to invest into or should i keep buying more?

i figure mobility would be the least important but idk

[severe folio]

i think it can be better

[chrome patrol]

yea ty ^^ i gonna look for a better one im not in a hurry

[severe folio]

perhaps an 80 damage and 80 finess

[strong gulch]

Maniac perk and unnacnny strike are your anchors. Unstable power, slaughter, and even deflector are some other options. Deflector is defensive tho.

Damage, finesse, and first target are the important stats.

[severe folio]

and yes i think mobility is the least important too

[ornate hamlet]

tytyty y'all!

[open stratus]

Everyone always hating on mobility

[severe folio]

mobility are for cock sleeve

[spice veldt]

god I love running into ranged patrols and not being punished for it

[plucky flax]

[strong gulch]

Obscurus is wide.

[severe folio]

oh

i thought that’s pretty wide already

[plucky flax]

Assail get even more hate than autopistol/bolter vet pre patch.

Racism against psyker.

[spice veldt]

psykers truly are the most oppressed

[open stratus]

Mobility lets me swap between purgatus and deimos. I dodge back, shoot a fireball or two then get to slashing and watch the flames spread. Ezpz

[severe folio]

next patch should let psyker spawn chaos spawn at 100 peril

thatll teach them a lesson

[ornate hamlet]

okay i almost ran out of dockets before realizing so i upgraded my original force sword

[ornate hamlet]

omg i would love if that was a like small percent chance instead of us blowing up

[burnt island]

Huh... Interesting.

[severe folio]

huh

[burnt island]

I never thought I'd ever get that one.

[slate oasis]

is uncanny strike the meta blessing for deimos now? A long while back I was told slaughterer + unstable power were the must have blessings

[severe folio]

thats a psyker achievement ?

[burnt island]

Offensive penance.

[severe folio]

ohh

must be a thammer moment

[burnt island]

Surprisingly no. 2 vets, a zealot with big chain sword, and me with a little rapier, assail, and las pistol

Must've been the weakened monsters maelstrom.

[severe folio]

very interesting

[strong gulch]

Looking pretty good. Both perks could use a change. Otherwise not bad.

[dusk salmon]

Anyone completed the Malleus Monstronum Penance?

[burnt island]

Which one is that?

Oh that one.

[dusk salmon]

Kill a monstrosity after damaging 90% of its health brain burst

[strong gulch]

rending got a buff and slaughter got a nerf. For now, uncanny strikes reigns supreme.

Slaughter still good tho

[burnt island]

When I played vet, we helped a guy just do laps around a BoN while he did it.

[slate oasis]

ohh good to know

[burnt island]

Never did it myself. Took a good 5 minutes for him to do it.

[dusk salmon]

I’m not sure where to go to find a group to help haha, since it has to be a private match in order to complete it

[burnt island]

#vox-lfg-nasa

Would have to add a few people and give it a go.

[ornate hamlet]

unfortunately i was not able to get unstable power before i ran out of plasteel

[dusk salmon]

Thanks!

[strong gulch]

There's a few vox channels, choose the one with your region.

[burnt island]

So I'm guessing the best way to get this is to just not use your ability and have it so even if your allies are contributing to warp charge increase.

[strong gulch]

Slaughter is still really good tho. I'd keep it.

[ornate hamlet]

ooo sounds good, i don't feel so bad about it now

[strong gulch]

I think so. I did mine before the change. RIP

[valid talon]

Is the surge staff any good compared to a voidstrike? I found a really good one in the store and am now considering a build for it

[burnt island]

Seems fairly easy. I'll just use scrier's gaze so I don't feel encouraged to use it.

[slate oasis]

yeah. I've also heard playing on shock troops can help for maintaining the charges. this penance was honestly so easy before the big patch I feel bad for new psyker players lol

[spice veldt]

that's an actual pro strat

actually pro

[strong gulch]

now that's a tactic. 👀

[strong gulch]

Crit bonus is low. If you don't have one yet, you could get this to try out. Even if you get a better one, you could turn it in for the blessing.

[valid talon]

I looked at the crit stuff, is it important?

All the other stats seem more so

IDK how the force staff works

[strong gulch]

Unless things changed, crit is important on surge staff. It's the only one that actually has decent crit without blessings.

Crits make a big difference.

[severe folio]

sad crit

[sonic hazel]

bruh

[open stratus]

Don't listen to them. Crit is lame.

[sonic hazel]

people really hate assail

[ornate hamlet]

is assail the funny looking darts killing mobs of enemies?

[strong gulch]

yee

[sonic hazel]

yeah

I don't use it for that though

straight up don't have it upgraded at all

[ornate hamlet]

i just had a team with 2 other psykers both using that and it looked fun haha

[sonic hazel]

I use it to kill snipers

that's it

otherwise I use my sword/staff

but because it's so good at spamming

people hate playing with it

[spice veldt]

i love abusing stuff that is so obviously overtuned

[plucky flax]

Spam assail before patch this week.

[spice veldt]

but yeah it's a fairly mechanically dead weapon unless you purposefully quickswap it

for which there is no incentive to ever do so because its ammo economy is ridiculous

and most players never get to experience the beauty that is assail inheriting the perks and blessings of your held weapon

[sonic hazel]

I just use it as a ranged option for snipers

because I use flamethower staff

[spice veldt]

i use it to snipe crushers https://streamable.com/zjpqc5

i recommend using it as a quickswap weapon

is fun

uncanny strike is affecting assail in that clip, and it also gets the +Carapace on my duelling sword

and with the Disrupt Destiny stacks I have, a crit weakspot becomes 1.7k damage

[sonic hazel]

idk

it's not a fun weapon

[severe folio]

are you perhaps using it in a way it is not intended for

if you have the flame staff for crowd management it sure look like you wouldnt use assail on those crowd

[sonic hazel]

nah i've tried it both ways

it's good don't get me wrong

just doesn't have the

Feedback I guess

of smite and brainburst

[severe folio]

you like bb ?

hmm

[sonic hazel]

not as a tool

[gentle hinge]

feels very nice for poxbursters

[sonic hazel]

brain burst is kinda shidded compared to the other two

[severe folio]

maybe you havent throw assail into a horde of gunner

[sonic hazel]

but it feels fucking badass

[sonic hazel]

I have

every time I do my teammates get pissy I killed the specials

[severe folio]

the top left corner doesnt pop ?

well fuk em kids

[gentle hinge]

REAL

played it once after using flame staff and brain burst forever and insta tilted teamates

[sonic hazel]

bro

[severe folio]

idiots

[sonic hazel]

mission i'm in right now

in the waiting lobby

moment they saw i had assail

the two

OTHER PSYCHERS

pitched a bitch fit in chat and left

mega nerds

[severe folio]

thats crazy

block them

[sonic hazel]

hadn't even joined the game yet lmao

[gentle hinge]

yeah people are quite something

[sonic hazel]

though it does speak of how overtuned assail is

[gentle hinge]

yeah

[sonic hazel]

bruh I just want brain burst buffed tbh

[gentle hinge]

could use a nerf on idk, up time maby

[sonic hazel]

it's confirmed that the spam is being nerfed

and the snipe mode is being buffed

[severe folio]

i dont really care if they buff or nerf assail

[sonic hazel]

which is good

[severe folio]

if less of my teammates die on stupid shit and more of them kill stuffs the quicker my run goes and the faster those docket flow to my wallet

[winter magnet]

manic/carapace/or unyielding for replacing the crit hit?

[severe folio]

then i dont care whether they nerf assail or buff bb

[sonic hazel]

I'm sso mad though "mind in motion" the upgrade that makes it so you go faster quelling

is only under smite or assail

[gentle hinge]

il give you my brain burst build. makes you brain burst cast super fast

[sonic hazel]

hell yeah link that shit

[severe folio]

you wont be needing it soon enough

[still hearth]

Crit hit to maniac or carapace definitely

[severe folio]

because bb quelling wont have reduced speed next patch

[sonic hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-happy-yippee-creature-yippee-meme-yippee-gif-gif-1489386840712152603

[still hearth]

Isn't that just when casting

[severe folio]

is it ?

[sonic hazel]

even if it's just when casting worth it

[winter magnet]

I do manics for now just cause there are so many more

[still hearth]

I think so

[severe folio]

have to check

[orchid shadow]

Reduced movement penalties from charging

[severe folio]

i see

well then

[sonic hazel]

Is there a way to start brain burst before it's fully charged?

[orchid shadow]

Yay, team Brain Burst!

[severe folio]

they really think bb is strong enough for all its shortcoming

[severe folio]

no

[sonic hazel]

it's annoying to use on a crusher for example and then the ogryn one shots it with a fucking rock

though in fairness rock is pretty based

[severe folio]

thats just something you have to live with as a bb psyker

[gentle hinge]

let me make it real quick on the darktide page and il DM you it, il put some instructions in there for clarity and weapons to compliment the talent tree

[slate oasis]

you could test it out with and without carapace in the training room. my gut says go with maniac, but I'd be curious about testing carapace

[winter magnet]

yea, im taking it into a 5 to try rn

I dont usually go into the training room tbh

[sonic hazel]

is telekine bubble bugged btw

I use it with warp charge

[severe folio]

yes

[sonic hazel]

and it doesn't have a cooldown

[severe folio]

yes

[sonic hazel]

oh wack

[severe folio]

will be fix

[slate oasis]

yeah if you have even 1 warp charge it fully refreshes the bubble cooldown

[severe folio]

true aegis

[still hearth]

It does for both shields

But only if you don't have double wall

[severe folio]

interesting

[orchid shadow]

I think that refresh is going away in the next patch

Fixed an issue where the “Warp Siphon” Talent granted an instant cooldown of the
“Telekine Shield” and “Telekine Dome” Abilities

[severe folio]

yea

[sinful vigil]

knock 7 people off ledge bugged?

[orchid shadow]

Shouldn't be. Not getting it?

[burnt island]

I might not be able to share the weapons as my vet, but at least I can always reuse the appearance of the rifle. Sexy M16 looking.

[strong gulch]

You can quell while sliding if that helps.

[sonic hazel]

does actually

[burnt island]

Actually got that today. Shouldn't be.

[sinful vigil]

yeah, doesn't seem to be registering at all

guess im just getting unlucky

[orchid shadow]

Where are you trying it?

[sinful vigil]

the mini bridge area at the start of one of the raid missions or the same bridge at the start of investigation

[orchid shadow]

Hmm, not sure then. I got mine at the end of Vigil station with the two bridges leading to the interrogation terminal.

[sinful vigil]

did you use venting shriek? or something better

[orchid shadow]

It was a while back when it was more. I think I used the F ability plus just pushing.

[sinful vigil]

time to keep trying then

[ornate hamlet]

okay assail is really fun

but i blew myself up a couple times not realizing how easy it was to hit 100% peril lol

[burnt island]

Lol called it.

Careful not to abuse it. There's a huge ick towards it by the other classes.

[still hearth]

By everyone not using it*

[burnt island]

Lol yeah.

[plucky flax]

It's racism against psykers.

They didn't cry this hard with power sword +autopistol/bolter.

[ornate hamlet]

had to try it after my first game had 2 psykers using it lol

[burnt island]

Lol, also, be wary of smite ability. That thing eats GPU to everyone not you.

They'll live.

[ornate hamlet]

oh no LOL

i was smiting hordes whenever there were dogs mixed in

[burnt island]

Lol that works since it keeps them still.

The other players might just have to play with an occassional stutter.

[ornate hamlet]

it definitely looks cool tho imo

wish it didn't generate peril so fast but i liked it

[still hearth]

The best part is the peril

Give me that peril

[burnt island]

Lol that peril is great when you take advantage of it right

[ornate hamlet]

ohhh fair i need to read the talents and stuff more

it's like information overload when you first get started x-x

[viscid matrix]

peril edging is a skill, and once you have mastered it, high peril will always be the goal

[ornate hamlet]

i got a couple questions :o do i just want to stay in red peril then? i noticed once i hit red, it stays red down to like 50%

seems like an awesome buffer

[spice veldt]

if you want to get the most benefit with One with the Warp or Warp Rider

[viscid matrix]

the buffs that scale with peril reach max at around 85%, so yu want to stay above that
when you quell while above 50% you quell faster

[spice veldt]

I personally don't bother with it

[viscid matrix]

also warp nexus

unstable power

[spice veldt]

true

i usually rely on True Aim for dem crits

[ornate hamlet]

i have one more question since i'm using the surge staff

i love the lightning but i don't see much of a difference between full charge vs minimum charge, is it better to just spam low charge with it?

[viscid matrix]

its better for max charge, you use Warp Flurry blessing to make getting to full charge faster

max charge is only 1s by default

[ornate hamlet]

gotcha gotcha i was only doing malice so it didn't seem to make a diff :o i do have warp flurry tho

it's super fast

[viscid matrix]

best bet, use some min charge secondaries to stack up warp flurry, then do max charges after

[strong gulch]

Max charge is more damage. With warp flurry you can charge faster (any amount of charge procs this).

[severe folio]

whats the differents between the two recon lasgun

[viscid matrix]

there are 4, check out the differences
actually there is 7

[spice veldt]

amongus

[strong gulch]

Depending on your build and map difficulty you may find charging full and then a half charge to be enough to take out some elites and specials. Some may take consecutive full charges.

If you have trouble with peril management, the warp siphon line and keystone has some pretty impactful peril management with inner tranquility. Venting shriek can (ability) is helpful too.

[viscid matrix]

i forgot about the Kantreal's

[ornate hamlet]

i really like the venting shriek ability! i tried a game with the shield dome and assail but accidentally blew myself up a couple times

[strong gulch]

It happens.

[ornate hamlet]

so i went back to the original build you gave me after a second game with assail

the darts from assail are so good but i just really like the lightning tbh

[viscid matrix]

smite is a really good choice if you dont want a damage blitz

it locks down a horde so well

[strong gulch]

I feel you. I like the lightening too.

You can do some quick swap shenanigans with assail and non-force swords that's pretty cool.

[severe folio]

uhm, just the recon lasgun lol

[viscid matrix]

every one of them is slightly different 😄

[severe folio]

yes

well

i was thinking about the rapid firing lasguns

but i see they actually have 3 models

[viscid matrix]

tbh for Pyskers, we want the weapons with the biggest damage per shot

so the Kantreal XII, Vraks III or the Revolver

[severe folio]

i see

damn

[spice veldt]

if you want to be a quickswap maniac, though the automatics are also fine cuz true aim and crit strings

i'll prob run the infantry autos next patch

since I'm a fan of weapons like that

the columnus IAG is reaaaaaaaal

[severe folio]

i do like the infantry autoguns

the bracegun is strange though

why are they like that

are they suppose to be a horde tool

[spice veldt]

you could use them for that but their identity is just being hipfire weapons with a minimal requirement for aiming

higher base damage but lower finesse multipliers than the infantry autoguns

and being unaffected by suppression for the most part

[burnt island]

Psyker might become my new main at this rate because of the update. Fits that rogue like playstyle I enjoyed in other RPG games.

[glad meadow]

what would you rate as the staff with the best primary (non-charged) fire ?

[severe folio]

ill get a proper autogun then

[severe folio]

whats the differents between laser and bullets in this game ?

laser more effective against armor or something ?

[burnt island]

Recoil

[severe folio]

huh

[burnt island]

lol jk

[severe folio]

recoil ?

oh

[spice veldt]

probably armour mods

and some laser weapons have inverse damage falloff (higher damage at longer ranges)

[severe folio]

oh

interesting

[burnt island]

Neither is necessarily better, but bullets have penetration I believe.

[spice veldt]

the only non-laser weapon I'm aware of with inverse damage falloff is the bolter

[severe folio]

bullet have penetration ?

[burnt island]

Lasguns are far more stable and easy to control.

[severe folio]

meaning they can hit through enemies ?

[burnt island]

I could be wrong. I'm still messing with them.

[severe folio]

oh the bolter hits better the longer you are ?

[summer prairie]

@spice veldt I think there's something wrong with the simplified quell speed formula, I think it's actually
((starting_perc*100)/(0.58+2.32*starting_perc))*staff_quell_modifier*0.25 (starting percentage and modifier in decimal)

[burnt island]

Okay, ignore what I said about pen values.

[summer prairie]

not that it's useful for anything

[spice veldt]

uh oh

[burnt island]

It's actually very difficult to answer this question because it depends on what las weapon are you comparing to what stubber.

[severe folio]

interesting

lets say autogun and recon lasgun

since theyre both automatica

[burnt island]

Recon is very stable, Like, very stable. you will never deal with recoil on that thing. Multiple shots down range, more likely to run out of ammo before an AG

[severe folio]

i see

[burnt island]

AG I'd say generally hits harder than a recon and will do more damage to Flak than recon.

[severe folio]

interesting

[burnt island]

Unless you're a veteran taking advantage of the rending/critical/ammo trick, it won't do so well.

[severe folio]

oh

what wont do so well ?

[burnt island]

The recon, sorry.

[severe folio]

the AG ?

ahh

[burnt island]

Vet has a talent that lasweapons doesn't use ammo on crit hits.

Combine that with the fastest firing recon (VID) and you'll get plenty of crits if the gun is built right.

and the rending will outright ignore the armor issue.

[severe folio]

that sound perfect for a gun class

so between the graia and the columbus

one of them has more damage and less ammo right ?

[solar sand]

is this in a row?

[burnt island]

Are we talking braced? or Infantry AG?

[solar sand]

that seems, maybe not impossible but

nearly so

[burnt island]

Lol no. Not in a row. That would be crazy

[solar sand]

doesnt have a progress bar so wasnt sure

[severe folio]

infantry