psyker-class

[ebon jolt]

I like surge. Being able to insta kill bulwarks and crushers is top notch. Not sure if it’s better than transfer peril or not.

[harsh urchin]

i've tried the surge crit setup and the transfer peril setup is just better lol

[autumn smelt]

wdym

[olive ember]

Oh wait

Surge blessing

[autumn smelt]

not the staff

the blessing

[harsh urchin]

it doesn't matter what you use because the weapon is giga overtuned

[autumn smelt]

yeah

[olive ember]

I thought you meant surge staff

[stable leaf]

I don’t notice the second shot when it happens. Maybe I should try it again

[olive ember]

phew

[keen harbor]

Surge on voidstrike allows faster killing, which you can feel

[olive ember]

I didn’t know if I had to revoke your metaslave title

[autumn smelt]

i love one shotting crushers!!!!!

[keen harbor]

even though the animation for it isn't obvious

[autumn smelt]

yeah, surges peril costs does not justify its damage

[keen harbor]

Unlike vet's 10% double grenade, which shoots out in a V shape

[autumn smelt]

you can hear it though

[keen harbor]

Can you? I can't

[narrow crane]

happens on crit, very subtle noise

can barely see it tho

[keen harbor]

I can't even see it. All I know is things are dying faster

[olive ember]

I know when it crits cuz the crusher dies

[autumn smelt]

with warp nexus and above 60% peril, you are critting nearly half the time, so thats more voidstrike per voidstrike

50% chance for 2x damage

[narrow crane]

in psykanium you can see it, in normal games tho not at all

[autumn smelt]

big money

[carmine agate]

what blessings do you take on purg?

[stable leaf]

I prefer transfer peril and flurry with voidstrike. I like the consistent bombardment

[narrow crane]

flurry + nexus

focused channeling is also good

[autumn smelt]

nexus and personal preference, flurry is good but not as good as it was, so chose whatever as long as it isnt terrifying barrage

[keen harbor]

Flurry is not as good if you like playing at critical peril

[olive ember]

Focused channeling bleh

The arcotash propaganda has worked

[keen harbor]

Because you are doing the charge-shoot-quell cycle, and that doesn't let flurry proc

[olive ember]

They changed it so you can quell and upkeep flurry didn’t they

[keen harbor]

did they?

[olive ember]

It’s on a timer now

[autumn smelt]

they did

[narrow crane]

yeah

[olive ember]

Psure

[autumn smelt]

3.5 seconds

[keen harbor]

oh, okay, then that's easy. flurry+nexus

[autumn smelt]

the only thing is, it only goes up to 3 stacks now

[olive ember]

Akshually it’s nexus + flurry

[autumn smelt]

its not as big as an impact as it once was

[olive ember]

Because nexus is more important than flurry

[keen harbor]

Like what are you going to do with terrifying barrage when it already does that, and TB doesn't work consistently anyways?

[autumn smelt]

nothing, you replace TB with literally anything else

its worthless

[olive ember]

I mean so is the other stuff tho

Run n gun

[keen harbor]

Hopefully they change it

[narrow crane]

we have to realize that blessing system is still in pre-alpha, half of them don't make any sense let alone work

[olive ember]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[keen harbor]

Transfer peril on trauma?

[olive ember]

There’s a datamined blessing that gives purge rending iirc

[narrow crane]

lmao

[olive ember]

Surge on trauma

[keen harbor]

You'd think that voidstrike and trauma are from the same weapon group, since they look the same, and have the same blessing pool

[autumn smelt]

run n gun is honestly not that bad on purg, since you can just sprint by enemies and fart on then to keep em out of your face as you reposition

[olive ember]

Simply just dodge slide smh

[narrow crane]

you should be farting and then switching to melee tbh

[carmine agate]

what perks then?

[autumn smelt]

it would be an instant replacement if there was another blessing that had a much bigger impact, but there really isnt since the flurry nerf

[olive ember]

For purge?

[keen harbor]

flak+maniac

[olive ember]

Flak + maniac/unyielding/crit chance iirc

If it was pre patch

Dunno about now tho

[carmine agate]

i see

[autumn smelt]

i dont think its changed

its direct impact has increased, so it just nukes infested and unarmored even more than it did

so where its damage is really needed are those options

[north cradle]

Haha you can damage enemies on Force Sword push now

[olive ember]

Crit chance is like a 10% damage on tankier targets maniac for 25% on ragers unyielding for 25% on boss damage

[autumn smelt]

WHAT

[olive ember]

How?

Kinetic flayer proc?

[narrow crane]

push attack

[slate oasis]

thanks for the response. I can actually put warp nexus on my staff with surge so I'll give that a go

[autumn smelt]

it didnt used to deal damage

[narrow crane]

it pops heads

[north cradle]

It only does one damage but it works

[olive ember]

Lmao amazing it does 1 damage now

[autumn smelt]

hold on lemme show you what it looks like a bit in practice

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/752156106071081021/1159349611270508636/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2023.10.04_-_23.19.14.23_-_Trim.mp4?ex=6530b377&is=651e3e77&hm=ff568be3ca9d4f32a9ad86892962ac111be01f5cf16c638f7539d5116fad7cee&

[autumn smelt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1159746958504763423/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2023.10.06_-_00.06.57.02_-_Trim.mp4?ex=65322585&is=651fb085&hm=a9fbd2cd8c94af9a19c7d0be65a03a4209cfd80def18f8144989d3f8eaf3056e&

[north cradle]

But yes you can also do Kinetic Flayer on push attack with Force Sword

[hardy citrus]

what are the best melee options for psyker

[autumn smelt]

deimos, illisi, dueling swords, catachan swords

[slate oasis]

beautiful. there's nothing more satisfying than getting crits on crushers and maulers

[autumn smelt]

look at the kill feed and my ability cooldown in the 2nd video though

[cold oasis]

I mean, everything is viable on Psyker weirdly enough

Except axes, fuck axes

[weak island]

I got a blessing where u can block both range and melee on illisi

[autumn smelt]

best paired with kinetic deflection if you want to play into that

[cold oasis]

With the various methods we have to not have to scream against ranged

honestly deflector isn't that great anymore

Bubble, Smite, Assail pretty much cover the need for Deflector

[olive ember]

Combat axes are pretty strong on psyker wat

[cold oasis]

(oh i know, i just hate them)

[olive ember]

SMH

Oh yeah?

Well I hate chainswords

[cold oasis]

How

Are you thinking about Chainaxes?

If so, yeah, fuck Chainaxes.

[olive ember]

Chain sword

[cold oasis]

Let's just give a 1sec Animation on a left click hurr durr

[olive ember]

Tho I hate the eviscerator more

[stone totem]

I talked about it earlier, but this is the BB bug with right clicking with the +75% charge node applied

[stone totem]

The last one I did was a left click

[maiden hornet]

What is the best thing to do for a smite Psyker when there is a monster? Whip out the force sword? Surge staff? Or just channel the enfeeble lightning

[rugged fiber]

Finally did it

[raw token]

this one was so much easier at launch

[cold oasis]

You can either use the smite +10% buff if your team is all attacking it

[raw token]

cos good vt2 players were still playing malice

[olive ember]

https://tenor.com/view/wedding-crasher-hro-gif-25636997

[cold oasis]

or if they're incompetent just slap it melee

[olive ember]

Back when there was literally no reason to grind missions past malice

10/10 old reward system

[maiden hornet]

Cheers

[olive ember]

The moment they buffed Damnation and heresy reward and all the good players left and malice was never the same

[raw token]

malice is harder than t5 now change my mind

[olive ember]

Ehhh I’ve seen some rly bad t5 teammates so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[cold oasis]

I mean, i do find Assail psykers last in dps in t5.

[olive ember]

Mfw carrying a lvl 22 through a hi 5 shock

Man was literally worse than a bot

Dead more than alive, and when alive he was on the ground more than he was standing

[slate oasis]

is that just psykinetic's aura doing that? or do you combine it with warp siphon?

[rugged fiber]

Not surprised, sometime you even wonder if they try to play the game

[raw token]

i mean some people just play purely for the sake of playing and dont really try to learn much about the game

if they find it fun then fair enough

[ionic needle]

Can't be fun playing the game if you're just dead though

[raw token]

yeah i dont really get it

[rugged fiber]

if they find it fun they don't go into T4/5 Hi intensity Shock Troop

[ionic needle]

I've seen a few level 15-16s running T5 HI today

[autumn smelt]

psykinetic aura

[raw token]

if theyre just casual i dont think theyll see a problem with picking one difficulty or another

[ornate hamlet]

Hello everyone, I had a question about an issue I’ve been struggling all day with

Between Warp Flurry, Warp Nexus, and Rending shockwave, which two should I have for ogryns?

[spice veldt]

flurry + rending is the usual

i'd not run nexus by itself w/o blazing spirit

[ornate hamlet]

I’ve been struggling with the warp battery penance all day, I can’t seem to even see my warp charges show up whatsoever, I’m wondering if I’m missing a talent or something? I’m using BB but I never see the warp charge buff

gasp

[raw token]

yeah they changed it, bottom left talent

[carmine agate]

how should i change this?

[ornate hamlet]

Oh brother so I need to get way up in levels… great I’m honestly really relieved I finally have an answer to that

Thank you

[acoustic spade]

ok fine last one was 150 but I think we didnt properly scour all the hiding places at the start

[carmine agate]

is 71% charge rate on trauma staff ok?

[harsh urchin]

no

you need 80

[terse saffron]

what do i change?

[ornate hamlet]

I'd change unarmored to maniac.

[spice veldt]

71 charge rate is ok

[autumn smelt]

precog to slaughterer and crit dmg to maniac imo

[carmine agate]

maniac then try to finda higher tier warp flurry?

[spice veldt]

you're missing out on like 0.12 seconds of charge rate but it is what it is

[autumn smelt]

superiority kinda good ngl, lasting for 7 seconds with 1 drop off at a time

the buff really made it much better

especially with how often you see elites in higher difficulties

[tired jackal]

is there a way/mod to reduce the volume of all th psyker perils sfx and stuff, makes it hard to hear for game trigger sounds

[olive ember]

Bro not the 0.12

[autumn smelt]

yes

[autumn smelt]

its in the settings, listed under peril fx iirc

[terse saffron]

wish it was both specialists and elites

[autumn smelt]

i wouldnt drop it too low tbh, the THOOOM sfx is a good cue to stop doing stuff if youre not looking at your %

[tired jackal]

@autumn smelt i mustve missed it thx, i dont want it off just lowered way too loud atm

[autumn smelt]

yeah its a slider in settings

[buoyant citrus]

guys, for support smite build, what weapons are good ? do I have to bring a staff or can i bring a shooty thing instead

[upper galleon]

void or trauma staff, a good sword

smite build doesn't go scriers and destiny which is the typical gunker stuff

[royal aurora]

any help for how i can maintain max warp charges for 300 seconds for the pennence?

[azure oar]

[digital narwhal]

Thoughts?

[primal radish]

Is rending Shockwave any better after patch or still low tier compared to the other trauma blessings?

[digital narwhal]

Rending Shockwave was never low tier.
It was the usual Blessing paired with Warp Flurry.

[atomic zephyr]

still amazing, althought its hard to see the difference on yourself, even when swapping to a melee. but the trauma staff still deletes hordes and elites

[zinc phoenix]

You’re gonna be reloading for longer than you’ll be shooting 😂

[primal radish]

I thought rending Shockwave didn't really do anything because trauma ignored armor already. It was mainly support for team, but now rending actually increases damage

I always used flurry/nexus/focused channel/blazinh spirit for blessings over rending

[naive imp]

So I got empowered? Overpowered, and the 3 charges and the damage you can put out when a pack comes is INSANE.

Between Peril getting purged on kill (even though it’s only 10% it happens a lot) and empowered assails not generating….there are often times my peril will start naturally quelling/resetting.

Not to mention the damage is absolutely cracked. I don’t even have the 5 weakspots guarantee a crit yet and already feel like I’m just cleaving everything.

Also, before anyone asks - yes this is on damnation. I often find it’s not even worth my time switching to a staff unless it’s a boss and there are absolutely no other enemies alive - otherwise the cleave is always worth.

[still hearth]

Yeah apparently it doubles the targets it can hit when Empowered

Which is silly

[spiral lion]

and becomes boring very fast

unless you fan of spamming one button

[royal aurora]

I cant seem to maintain my warp charges and i am trying to for the penece is there somthing im missing?

[ashen schooner]

Catch a warp storm to go back in time pre patch when it was much easier

[primal radish]

It's harder now because warp charges only generate on specials/elites instead of any trash. But vampire should help keep charges up

[royal aurora]

agony

[azure oar]

https://tenor.com/view/frog-kick-flip-skateboard-frog-on-da-board-gif-16388983

[keen harbor]

can crusher sideswipe one shot psyker?

[feral verge]

this is crazy. how??? ??? ? how he?

[azure oar]

[upper galleon]

not with toughness i think

[ornate hamlet]

Not if you dodge.

[keen harbor]

I guess I missed the overhead hiding inside

[spice veldt]

yeah only the mauler/crusher overheads have the property of dunking on you from full toughness

[pine relic]

Why do I feel the brain rapture is so weak

[keen harbor]

I had 90 and nearly 130hp

[ornate hamlet]

In my limited experience, it is unless you are using Empowered Psionics

[zinc phoenix]

If you dislike spamming one button psyker is kinda off limits rn

[pine relic]

I'm using Empowered Psionics, but the damage is still meh

[harsh urchin]

hand cannon is mandatory

[ornate hamlet]

Is one-shotting specialists and elites (non armored) not strong?

[harsh urchin]

secondary can be crucian roulette, point blank, surgical; whatever you prefer

[ashen schooner]

Feels weak on bosses for me, but fine in normal stuff once you get charges up

[pine relic]

since the patch zealot can one-shot any non-monstrosity enemies with Evi.

[ornate hamlet]

I have this experience too. Not sure how it's supposed to actually work, though.

[harsh urchin]

ok so BB has two modes

left click -> charge requires a lock; right click -> charge lets u charge it without a lock in anticipation

[ornate hamlet]

Yeah, but that's Zealot.

[harsh urchin]

if you're doing a right click charge, try holding down left click after charging it up

[woven pumice]

bb right click is janky

[harsh urchin]

so you hold both left and right at the same time

[lethal folio]

rightclick doesn't scale with charge rate properly.

[woven pumice]

sometimes consumes half charge from full without actually bursting your target

genuinely horrible

[pine relic]

The reason that BR sucks is your empowered BR can't even one-shot a mauler. and Scrier's gaze actually heavily limited your output.

[woven pumice]

sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't

I still use it I just want it to be good

[pine relic]

Scrier's gaze mechanically incompatible with BR,but it might work with other abilities that can actually kill a lot of things fast.

[unique mist]

Its fine with assail and bad with everything else

[pine relic]

BR is just too slow, you can't keep up with how fast Peril build on Scrier's gaze

[unique mist]

assail you can stop to quell, smite you really dont wanna stop and quell and bb is just plain bad with

[wet belfry]

I think scriers gaze may need a minor buff.

[primal radish]

Can smite crit at all

[still hearth]

It just needs to work properly

[fair zephyr]

how long til assail gets nerfed into the floor for being too quick to kill?

[still hearth]

It apparently doesn't add all buffs until it expires

[pine relic]

I guess so, not many psykers still using BR now.

[still hearth]

And Warp Charges don't work for CDR.

[woven pumice]

smite is at least safe to hit 100 peril during scrier with no risk of popping

[unique mist]

I wouldn't hold my breath

[upper galleon]

i think assail is the best ability option for non gunker scrier, but transfer void staff might work

[primal radish]

Even the crit chance??

[still hearth]

I am not sure which specific ones didn't go

[digital narwhal]

[still hearth]

I think its the stacking ones

[azure oar]

https://tenor.com/view/white's-tree-frog-snowflake-snowflake-frog-frog-frogs-gif-540938687770057080

[upper galleon]

yea it's damage without charges is pretty low and even with 6 charges it should probably be buffed a bit

also not warp charges having quicken built in just take it out or add the double charges earned talent into it

i use BR for my purge build and it's, the best option for it imo

anti armor, anti long range burst tool

[pine relic]

Definitely need a buff, and they are going to nerf shard.

the shit is totally broken

[azure oar]

I hope it stays good but just not trivializing

cause it's so cool to use

And it's nice to have a weapon so easy i can play the game while really high

[pine relic]

I play a zealot at low int with shard psyker, I can't even touch an enemy

[upper galleon]

yea, assail needs nerf, to what i'm not sure but it's niche is short range trash killing

[spice veldt]

i'd nerf its ammo regen and max ammo to force you to swap to other weapons

[upper galleon]

but rn it overperforms a ton, i would like them to remove ammo entirely tho and up the peril cost and rate of fire

[harsh urchin]

low intensity is basically malice/heresy lol

[upper galleon]

no fuck ammo fuck the ammo mechanic we have peril

use it to balance

[spice veldt]

nah, upping the peril cost will prevent you from quickswapping from peril weapons as well

[upper galleon]

that's the point, cause rn it is too spammy, too much damage and you just throw shards out ridic fast esp with EP

[spice veldt]

having a charge mechanic is fine since it allows it to be balanced around the ammo mechanic instead of just its damage/peril

[upper galleon]

lower the rate of fire

[spice veldt]

yeah, and we can just lower the ammo regen and max ammo

[upper galleon]

🤮

[spice veldt]

the problem is that we can just burst through 10 shards at once

[upper galleon]

i hate it's ammo mechanic it is clunky

[spice veldt]

and it regens at what, every 2 seconds

I'd rather not have an implicit nerf to using peril weapons with assail

[upper galleon]

yee 2 seconds with optional talen (that everoyne is gonna take)

and you regen while firing

[keen harbor]

Personally, I don't like the right click charging mechanic. It doesn't allow me to bind mouse keys to tagging, because of windows limitations.

[spice veldt]

the ammo mechanic would be fine if ti actually mattered

[spiral lion]

i mean killing everything on any range in sight with assail is kinda become meh very fast. Smite at least have range restriction

[spice veldt]

but you can throw shards without any punishment for the current fight or the next fight

[upper galleon]

nah normal shards have range issues and terrain issues it's just that doesn't matter rn cause of how overtuned they are

[wet belfry]

Whatever they do i hope its reasonable.

[upper galleon]

throwing a shard with right click to hit something at range is BR slow and can bounce off terrain and shit

[harsh urchin]

the problem is that the overabundance of ammo also makes the right click worthless; since you have so much ammo that you can just spam left click

if they rebalance the damage and change the ammo to like.... 3, 4 maybe

[upper galleon]

yea, I'd rather just have it balanced around cost and slower rate of fire overall, then trying to balance the ammo mechanic

[harsh urchin]

there may be more value in the right click, rather than the left click spam

[spice veldt]

yeah, I'd set it to 3 shards and double its regen timer

[glass plume]

It's called a 'Blitz' ability - I think it should be as effective as it is now damage-wise but just increase the cooldown, or make charges generate in a different way. It should be an 'oh shit' button. For example on hi-intensity hunting grounds you can literally clear an entire wave of dogs with it, or a whole pack of ragers already.

[upper galleon]

3 shards with 4 second cd would kill it and force you to run EP

[harsh urchin]

yeah 3 shards with 4 second cd would utterly kill it lol

[spice veldt]

just nerf EP to remove the free charge

[upper galleon]

nah, that is narrow thinking, surge for the longest time was a support weapon

[spice veldt]

it's trivially easy to balance the ammo mechanic by just nerfing the numbers

[harsh urchin]

i think 4 shards with current cooldown should be ok

[spice veldt]

not with the current cooldown

[upper galleon]

you are actually just killing the weapon, it would need a damage buff for sure

[spice veldt]

the current cooldown has too much sustain

[spice veldt]

I use assail w/o EP

[upper galleon]

idc about balancing the ammo, it's a bad mechanic for psyker

[spice veldt]

except this ammo regens

I don't see how this is a bad mechanic

[upper galleon]

it's still bad

[spice veldt]

it's a way of balancing the shards without nerfing its damage or upping the peril cost

[upper galleon]

if you slow down the ammo regen, at least give psykers a way to speed up regen

[spice veldt]

no

[upper galleon]

idc if it's quelling after your peril is empty

or special action

[spice veldt]

it should be a quickswap weapon

[upper galleon]

i hate the ammo mechanic and it's the only thing about assail that sucks

[spice veldt]

if you're out of shards, you're out until you wait

[wet belfry]

I dont think assail is op enough to warrant both a charge nerf, regen nerf that goes too far.

[upper galleon]

but why?

why can't it be a primary

surge was a utility staff for almost a year

[spice veldt]

because it's inherently not a fun weapon if it was made a primary?

[spiral lion]

i mean it's psyker "niche" having unlimited uses of blitz. But Assail really need some work around it to NOT BE that spammy for WHOLE fight or EVERY fight.

[upper galleon]

Who says? right now it's just overperforming

[spice veldt]

and you would have to tune down the damage/aim assist/target limit

[upper galleon]

it is clearly designed to be the "primary" weapon compared to the smite utility and BB pick off potential

[spice veldt]

yes i love my fun auto-aim weapons

very mechanically engaging

[upper galleon]

smart pistol was loved in titanfall 1 and 2

[spice veldt]

uh huh

[upper galleon]

give it meaningful downsides and take off ammo

[spice veldt]

the ammo should be its meaningful downside

[upper galleon]

but don't gimp it into a (swap to this on a rotation like an MMO)

[spice veldt]

why not?

[upper galleon]

you could easily remove ammo, balance around higher peril and lower rate of fire

[still hearth]

That's already how a lot of Darktide works

[upper galleon]

because it's a tide game not world of fantasy online

[harsh urchin]

I actually think with some small changes to assail, like max ammo or RoF it'll be in a pretty good state lol

[spice veldt]

the force staff received buffs to their swap timers

there's a decently clear direction as to where they're going to psyker

[spiral lion]

like ogryn have blitz with 1 min regen (happy rock). and it's have 4 use but you can just NUKE mutant with it if you accurate. Psyker can use Blitz with unlimited times, and usually not need accurasy, but Smite have range, and Brain Burst have cast time and one target only. Assail bypass BOTH of them by being every range, aoe and mass hitting without having any drawbacks

[harsh urchin]

I dont think it needs a full on gutting

[upper galleon]

BR has sucky damage

[still hearth]

No one thinks it should be gutted

[spice veldt]

if you've ever spammed at assail from 0 charges, you'd know that it still has too much sustain

[upper galleon]

assail has drawbacks and if you used it in auric you would know

[spice veldt]

yeah I've been using exclusively Assail w/o any keystones and I know that shit is busted

[upper galleon]

both beefier enemies and armored enemies eat shards and will drain your ammo

[wet belfry]

I belive voidstrike is far more powerful then assail

[spice veldt]

wow it would be a shame if Assail freed up my ranged and melee slot to deal with those enemies

[spiral lion]

voidstrike yeah, but at least it's a staff and not autoaim

[upper galleon]

and it is slow at a range and somewhat unreliable at all ranges when terrain is rough

[spice veldt]

true, the autopistol couldn't deal with carapace so it was pretty shit pre-patch and didn't need any tuning down

[harsh urchin]

max ammo reduction to 3-5; maybe adjustment to charges regening rather than 2 seconds per charge; 12 seconds for a full refresh no matter how many you used, etc; any of those kind of changes would bring it in line

[upper galleon]

i couldnt kill a sniper with it once because he was behind a fence and shooting between a couple pillars

it would lock on, bounce off something, and stop seeking

[spice veldt]

shame that 3 out of the 4 staffs don't have a bolt primary that was buffed in the recent patch

[wet belfry]

Idc the thing absoutely destroys in near every scenario while used well.

[spice veldt]

truly a tragedy

[harsh urchin]

vs staff is pretty much autoaim wtf

[upper galleon]

I would be ok with all ammo regen'ing at once

but void is the most broken one right now, assail is just overperforming in it's role

[harsh urchin]

you just aim at head level

and everything dies

[spiral lion]

overperforming to the broken level

[wet belfry]

Assail barely is overperformingz

Guns can put out a similar dps output.

[upper galleon]

still can't do shit if maulers, crushers and bulwarks are in horde eating up shards and stopping you from getting EP procs

[spice veldt]

if you look at the raw DPS, then yes Assail is fine

[spiral lion]

eating shards in horde. hah

[upper galleon]

still has issues with unreliability that are just negated currently by the sheer amount it it fires off

[spice veldt]

but you have to account for the insane ease of use that Assail has in the form of its aim assist and lack of loss in effectiveness with range

[upper galleon]

and long range is slow, and unreliable so you might need to take 4 shards to take out a bomber if he's in a weird spot

[wet belfry]

Ye which is why it is minorly overtuned

[upper galleon]

yes and I'm okay with it

[spice veldt]

because guns have something called damage falloff (well, most of them aren't inverse) and inaccuracy as well as requiring the user to aim

[pine relic]

I just tested it, maximum scrier'gaze stack + empowered psionics BR only deals 1600 damage to crushers and maulers

[upper galleon]

no assail is massively overtuned

[wet belfry]

It doesnt need a strong arm approach to bring it down.

[harsh urchin]

they also use ammo

which is a resource

[spice veldt]

yes it does

[harsh urchin]

that isn't a resource for psyker darts

[spiral lion]

"if he is in a weird spot". I would take i don't know how many shots from basically ANYTHING if he is "in a weird spot"

[spice veldt]

well, I don't know what you mean by "strong arm"

just nerf its ammo regen and max ammo for starters and let's see where it goes from there

[wet belfry]

Nerfing more then maximium charges.

[upper galleon]

it does it's job way way too well and even works in situations it shouldn't (imo it should be weaker to scab ragers for example in my head)

[wet belfry]

Im ok with reduceing charges to 4 or 5

But i think beyond that is just wack.

[keen harbor]

assail feels okay when 1 person runs it, but when 2 or 3 run it, then it becomes crazy

[grim vector]

it's so much fun tbh

[pine relic]

Even my surge staff kills curshers faster than BR

[spice veldt]

as long as it has a target limit of 3, I'd nerf it to 3 shards

[upper galleon]

BB staggers before it hits, and is guaranteed

[spiral lion]

if i see 2 psykers with assail on team screen before mission i just leave. i don't like doing nothing

[upper galleon]

bio lightning, well, it's not really a comparision, bio lightning is a utility tool, not a damage tool

[upper galleon]

free materials for me i guess

[spice veldt]

and the ability to just swap to assail, throw out some shards, and swap back to another weapon seems to be underrated

[spiral lion]

and it have CAST TIME and only ONE TARGET

[upper galleon]

I'm not above abusing assail void RN

[upper galleon]

so does right click assail?

[spice veldt]

it's a very non-clunky weapon with an insane ease of use in addition to how much you can spam it

[spiral lion]

so does spamming left click assail?

[upper galleon]

travel time + behaves differently

well you can't spam left click on enemies far away

your shards will spin out before they lock on to anything

[spice veldt]

RMB assail has a range of up to 50m which is plenty

[left basin]

did they buff brane borsch

[upper galleon]

honestly I think rmb is fine as is

[harsh urchin]

rmb assail has a few issues

first is the peril cost is too high

[upper galleon]

left click is the issue

[harsh urchin]

it costs 25% vs the left click 10%

second is that you have so much ammo

that it's almost always better

to just spam it

[spice veldt]

the RMB is boring and doesn't fit its identity as a quickswap weapon

[upper galleon]

who says it's a quickswap vs an alternative gun?

[spice veldt]

the RMB seems like the developers thought that it shouldn't have any weaknesses at long range

which is just silly

[slate sun]

if you have 3 assail psykers in the team it becomes rather silly

[spice veldt]

alright, let's nerf its swap timers and ability to be fired quickly in a fairly nonconsequential manner if you want to make it a primary weapon so much

then it should have some clunkiness to use, like smite also does

[upper galleon]

isn't that what I said?

[spice veldt]

that's just not particularly fun

[wet belfry]

Cant that just be solved either way by adding more talents?

[proven stirrup]

By the God-Emperor, the stub s l a p s now

[spice veldt]

i don't get why you want an auto-aim weapon to be able to be a primary weapon

[proven stirrup]

I love it on every class

[slate sun]

I hope they leave surge voidstrike alone though ... if they nerf it they'll ruin the weapon again for sure 😦

[ionic needle]

Keep 10 max charges, triple the auto recharge time, change the rmb to some focus action where they recharge three times faster at the cost of peril

[acoustic spade]

fun fact: My first max peril explosion happened today while I was trying out Assail in Heresy

[left basin]

^^^^ please

anyway

what's the METUH on melee

[wet belfry]

Im pratically sure the thing will be nerfed in someway.

[proven stirrup]

Were they not buffed in some way prior?

[upper galleon]

nah

if it's nerfed it will be still be above pre buff state

[acoustic spade]

If they nerf Surge Voidstrike, I hope they will only touch the Surge blessing and not drag the whole Voidstrike Staff down just because of an overperforming blessing

[slate sun]

I know they'll mess with it, but honestly the only OP bit of voidstrike is that it goes through carapace and ogryn shields like butter

[upper galleon]

idk one shotting crushers is a bit much

especially cause we also have BR to compare it to

[left basin]

i want it to be not two ballz, but an EMPOWERED ball

[fierce crest]

twice the ball

[left basin]

more cracklies and whatnot

[harsh urchin]

well not really lol

[left basin]

maybe more schwoom

[harsh urchin]

the main issue with VS is that it's aoe

[fierce crest]

its all of it

[harsh urchin]

the way that bolt staff was balanced in VT2 was that it was massive single target damage

[slate sun]

I bet if they change it they'll ruin the peril generation or charge time

[fierce crest]

aoe, damage, piercing

[ionic needle]

Bolt staff was so fun

[upper galleon]

i hope they let trauma use surge blessing properly

[acoustic spade]

doesnt one-shot crushers without surge, atleast not my staff :<

[clear heath]

bro they really thought giving it a +70% damage buff right away was a good idea

[harsh urchin]

it's fine to have massive piercing, massive damage, massive single target if it doesn't splash the aoe and explode everything

[upper galleon]

yea, but surge nexus is the meta rn, and you don't need cara perk for it

[left basin]

look at my horse

the surge blessing sits there ever since it dropped back in november

[slate sun]

your horse is amazing

[fierce crest]

my horse is amazing

[ionic needle]

That's a disgusting staff

[acoustic spade]

Thats why I said earlier that they should just look at the Surge blessing, especially because it doesnt really work on other staves except VS

[left basin]

it sucked complete balls before tho

well, not sucked

but rather lightly licked

[slate sun]

no it isn't in any way disgusting, the disgusting bit is that I had mine since june and it was so crap I almost sold it a couple of times

[proven stirrup]

Mmm, tastes just like raisins.

[wet belfry]

Psyke just needs more staffs in general

[slate sun]

but I knew Surge was supposed to be fun at some point

[fierce crest]

could lower the base damage and increase crit chance, then it would self synergize with surge but guaranteed crits wouldnt be as strong

[ornate hamlet]

We all just got in the extraction vehicle... and mission error

[upper galleon]

surge is great now

[ornate hamlet]

aborted

[upper galleon]

all the cc bots can go bio smite

surge just zaps armor and it's great

[spice veldt]

it's usually the body

[left basin]

FORCE ROD SO I CAN FUCKING FORCE MY ROD

RRRRAAAA

[harsh urchin]

it has very good base numbers against armor

and weaker base numbers against non-armor

[fierce crest]

how does it pick what armor it hits

[acoustic spade]

I've never even seen Surge on a staff

[left basin]

https://tenor.com/view/miguel-guitar-eldorado-dorado-lute-gif-5329804

[fierce crest]

vs like a reaper that has 3 armor types

[spice veldt]

it's usually just the body

[harsh urchin]

it's based on the chest armor of the enemy you hit

[slate sun]

imo they just need to limit the armor penetration and it will be just dandy

[left basin]

FORCE ROD FORCE ROD FORCE ROD

[spice veldt]

for reapers, it picks unyielding

[fierce crest]

yeye, was just clarifying the question

[fierce crest]

the arms and head

[left basin]

anyway, i'll post it again

[fierce crest]

[left basin]

what's the meta hand stick to hit enemies with in melee

[wet belfry]

It may be abit annoying for psyker to only have two solid ranged options for dealing with bulwarks, crushers if voidstrike becomes weak against those enemies.

Which is a design flaw to begin with.

[fierce crest]

ranged weapons suck vs carapace

as a rule

[slate sun]

some would say you're supposed to go melee

[spice veldt]

being able to guardbreak bulwarks is prob good enough instead of just straight up going past their shield

[left basin]

some would drink glue for breakfast

what's the new Best™ melee stick

[fierce crest]

combat axe

[slate sun]

Some need to get over themselves and start a zealot :p

[fierce crest]

🪓

[left basin]

nnno

[fierce crest]

weak

[left basin]

i wouldn't wanna drink glue

i already have a thrust axe

and it does really funny things

but that was some time ago

[slate sun]

the thunderhammer is even more ridiculous than it was before

[vague trail]

which one of these is the damage against bosses?

[fierce crest]

the weapon class that needs aim to cleave hordes is glue

[slate sun]

unyielding

[vague trail]

ty

[left basin]

non-psykey weapons are glue

S T Y L E

[acoustic spade]

I cant remember, is there like proper Melee talents for Psyker that buff Melee-gameplay?

[left basin]

whole tree for it kinda

[fierce crest]

its crit stuff

or just damage

[spice veldt]

no melee-specific stuff

we do have good base stats though

[naive imp]

Right side at the end. But not really tbh.

[fierce crest]

#1158835513789272126 message this my melee build

[naive imp]

Psyker is more ranged based.

[slate sun]

you can go with the crits and role play with a blazing sword 😄

[left basin]

i've heard weird things about duel swords

[languid tusk]

how does assail work ? do you hold G before you use it or is it full auto ?

[acoustic spade]

dear god that squished tree looks like an ogryn sat on it

[fierce crest]

yeah but single screenshots is nice

[slate sun]

this does absolutely almost nothing

fun though 🙂

[left basin]

but it sets things on fire

that's good

so uh yeah

i've heard muffled screams about dueling swords being the turbo shit now

[harsh urchin]

yar

[acoustic spade]

I have this really bad axe I got as an Emperor's Gift shortly after launch

[harsh urchin]

they one shot everything

absolutely insane

[fierce crest]

m1 fires a shard, m2 aims a big shard

[slate sun]

yea but you need adderall for that

[acoustic spade]

30% Mobility, just kill me why dont you

[left basin]

for wuh

[woeful patio]

Yaw or Naw?

[spice veldt]

RMB just does a lock-on; no extra damage or anything

[slate sun]

for dueling swords

[left basin]

i'm on two cans of caffeine juice

[pearl drift]

Is disrupt destiny busted right now?

[left basin]

would that work

[spice veldt]

yeah, marked enemies do not glow at all at times

[acoustic spade]

busted as in bad and doesnt work right, yes

[pearl drift]

this is what I mean, yes

[slate sun]

only if you're >18 years old 😦

[raw token]

this is bad right?

[ornate hamlet]

I'd use it

[woeful patio]

Thats pretty decent

[fierce crest]

if youre doijng the armor strip version its fine

[acoustic spade]

Why? Caffeine isnt an age-restricted substance in most countries

[fierce crest]

if youre doing the warpfire version less so

[raw token]

cool imma do rending

[left basin]

i'm unfortunately a bit older than that

[fierce crest]

43

[left basin]

god forbid

but ok

which dool sord is good

[fierce crest]

41?

[slate sun]

me too, hence - I stick with heavy attack illisi

[fierce crest]

4 and 5 are much better than the other

4 is better than 5

4 has the highest heavy damage

[spice veldt]

https://streamable.com/ydfsds

two snipers with one shard btw

[vapid wagon]

anyone own this chest piece and can tell me if it clips with legs while walk/run?

[keen harbor]

oh yeah, forgot I had this trauma staff

[raw token]

yikes

[fierce crest]

not using full auto smh

[spice veldt]

god works in mysterious ways

[left basin]

siblings

gather your energy

pool it all together

i'm brunting a IV duelsword

[acoustic spade]

So should I be trying this out instead of just not using my brain at all with Deflector Illisi?

[fierce crest]

4 is the right DS right?

[left basin]

374

:/

[fierce crest]

before this guy spends 2 mil on it

[spice veldt]

ye

[fierce crest]

whew

[lethal lagoon]

So they finally nerfed Illy. You can't push kill pox busters anymore. I guess it makes sense cause it's a peril push. A great way to nerf the weapon without making people want to quit using it. Fatshark is really creative with their development. 👍

[harsh urchin]

the model4 has better numbers for one-shotting stuff

[spice veldt]

i expect the other duellies to get properly buffed, but for now the mk4 is the best

[left basin]

thanks siblings

[fierce crest]

yeah but what are the rolls

[left basin]

i expected 330s'

[fierce crest]

a 330 can be good

[left basin]

i got three 370s in a roll

[acoustic spade]

That reminds me of me trying to get a Deimos that was like 320

[fierce crest]

tru

[wet belfry]

Low warp res op.

[acoustic spade]

me just trying to get a Deimos to try out

[slate sun]

Deimos is great, no need to try it out 🙂

[fierce crest]

i mean, you dont need peril gen or quell speed to try it

[acoustic spade]

I'm just very used to Illisi

[wet belfry]

Deimos is no longer the cool kid

[fierce crest]

even finesse kinda uneeded at first

[wet belfry]

Now dueling sword is my best friend.

[fierce crest]

so just one that has kinda high damage and first target will get you a feel for it

[acoustic spade]

So, 78% FInesse 79% Warp Resistance, did I get that right?

[fierce crest]

then you can decided if you wanna dump lots into getting a great one

[fierce crest]

perfect

[acoustic spade]

Both of the Brunted Deimoses have like 50% First Target damage

[fierce crest]

#psyker-class message

but you are like little baby

watch this

[acoustic spade]

That IS funny

[open crag]

do mettle and perfect timing effect assail?

[cyan thicket]

hi guys if I want to spam assail should I go empowered psionics and bio lodestone or overpowering souls?

[fierce crest]

ive had it for weeks and whenever i scroll past my deimos' i wonder why i have 2 golds

and then check them and remember

[slate sun]

the only stat I felt not critical on deimos was the warp res, but I'm weird like that

[unique mist]

yes

assail can crit

[weak island]

I have the same question

[unique mist]

and it is of course warp damage

[fierce crest]

hi guys if I want to spam assail should I not?

[spice veldt]

prob overpowering souls to clear out ranged patrols and rager packs

[fierce crest]

the answer is yes

[spice veldt]

if you're a weirdo using assail as your hordeclear, go for bio lodestone

going for bio lodestone also means that you don't really need the 3-charges talent

[acoustic spade]

Ok, I'm gonna try to Brunt one more Deimos

[left basin]

i throw my energies at your brunt

may you get a 380

[fierce crest]

finesse is good

just not needed to get a feel for the weapon

[cyan thicket]

thanks!

[unique mist]

if you want your teammates to have a little fun then only spam assail in big hordes lol

[acoustic spade]

Ok this is leagues better than the other two

[fierce crest]

yeah thats basically perfect

[acoustic spade]

Not quite 380 but good stat spread

[fierce crest]

most 380s arent gonna be that good

[naive imp]

Overpowered. It gives 2 sources of shard generation.

[raw swift]

shield pysker build where?

[fierce crest]

i just throw a couple shards every time i land 5 headshots

[fierce crest]

its not really something that defines a build, anything can use it

[naive imp]

You have 7.5% chance to get a charge on kill AND elites/specialists give a shard.

Then you can have 3 stored. Allows you to generate multiple at a time

[fierce crest]

but melee focused really likes it

[acoustic spade]

So, Deimos is used more like a Combat Blade when you really need to horde clear with melee?

[raw swift]

the one that spams it

just the skiltree build

[left basin]

i hav queschin

which blessings for doolsowrd 4

[fierce crest]

take the talent that gives 2

[cyan thicket]

Thank you

[fierce crest]

thats all unless you want to abuse bugs

[naive imp]

What do you mean?

Oh for shields

[fierce crest]

specialists dont

[unique mist]

plus with the increase elites/specialists density in harder difficulties and post patch you should be getting more empowered charges total per game than bio lodestone

[fierce crest]

ye

[naive imp]

Oh definitely.

[slate sun]

quick attacks work pretty well on hordes, but the best of it is the force+strike on specialists and such

[naive imp]

It’s pretty common to get an empowered on 1-2 assail casts.

[fierce crest]

not specials

[naive imp]

Eh whatever. Same thing

It’s still better

When those things show up they become fodder just like other stuff.

[acoustic spade]

Yeah I get that, It has a different use case than Illisi does for example

[unique mist]

well what are elites

examples

[fierce crest]

beefy dudes

specials are disruptor dudes

elites are big damage or big tank

[primal radish]

Elites are gunners, ragers, ogryns, maulers

[fierce crest]

specials are area denial or incapacitate

[upper galleon]

new idea, force quarterstaff that is a melee weapon

[naive imp]

Elites are Dreg Gunner, Dreg Shotgunner, Dreg Rager, Scab Gunner, Scab Shotgunner, Scab Rager, Scab Mauler, Reaper, Bulwark, and Crusher.

So basically it’s gg

[primal radish]

Oh yea shotgunners too

[fierce crest]

yea shotgunners are damage not cc

so theyre elite

[naive imp]

You want overpowered because those enemies become fodder for the assail grinder.

[fierce crest]

thats how i remember whats what

[spice veldt]

Elites:

• Crushers/Bulwarks/Reapers
• Scab/Dreg Gunners
• Scab/Dreg Shotgunners
• Scab/Dreg Ragers
• Scab Maulers

Specialists:

• Poxburster
• Scab/Dreg Flamers
• Scab Bomber
• Scab Sniper
• Scab Trapper
• Mutants
• Poxhounds

[upper galleon]

sweeping heavies, lights for single target combo attacks, special is an activation that is a buff for a period of time

[spice veldt]

the specials sit in their own little group in the psykhanium

[fierce crest]

i guess burst damage is specials too

[naive imp]

Long story short overpowered>bio

GG

[fierce crest]

sniper and burster

[unique mist]

sniper pushes you back too don't forget

[left basin]

What's the best blessings for the duelsword 4

[unique mist]

so it does fall into that category

[fierce crest]

i have been knocked off by that

[upper galleon]

I like this but the other option is so good for spamming into hordes and bruisers and trash gunners

[primal radish]

Uncanny and riposte?

[upper galleon]

i like both equally ngl

[primal radish]

The one that's finesse dmg on dodge

[spice veldt]

uncanny + riposte/shred/precog, but yeah I prefer Riposte among those three

[fierce crest]

and burster

[left basin]

i think i have a level 4 that

hm

[unique mist]

what is finesse/finesse damage

[acoustic spade]

huh, this showed up in Armoury

Too bad the damage% is a bit low but otherwise looks serviceable

[spice veldt]

Finesse, as a stat modifier on weapon, affects crit/weakspot damage and usually attack speed

[acoustic spade]

I like my Dodge Distance ok

[upper galleon]

huh

[spice veldt]

Finesse Damage, as a stat provided by blessings, is equivalent to +Critical Damage and +Weakspot damage

[upper galleon]

this might be another reason EP assail is OP

[spice veldt]

e.g., +60% Finesse Damage is +60% weakspot damage and +60% crit damage

[upper galleon]

thrwoing it into trash gives your team a bunch of free toughness about equal to a vet or zealot support ult

should have a cooldown

[acoustic spade]

Assail Isnt Blitz, right?

[unique mist]

it is

[acoustic spade]

I thought Blitz was the Shout/Shield/Gaze

[unique mist]

if you take the toughness on warp kill it shouldn't even really matter

[upper galleon]

but it is for team

[unique mist]

blitz is assail/smite/brain burst

[upper galleon]

no those are active abilities

blitz is the nade slot

[unique mist]

ah yeah right

[upper galleon]

abilities are the F button

[acoustic spade]

oh kk

[spice veldt]

psychic leeching seems nice if you're running an elite patrol down

though it was the first node that I deselected to put the point towards somewhere else

[upper galleon]

i don't see why you would

[spice veldt]

teammates just don't trade toughness all that often

[upper galleon]

it's basically a support ability if you are spamming into hordes/trash shooters

it's something passive that could win games wihtout you ever noticing

[acoustic spade]

I just hate it somewhat that I cant go Prescience -> Venting Shout

[unique mist]

is there literally any play for disrupt destiny you reckon?

[upper galleon]

gunker

[languid tusk]

it will be buffed to be a team effect

[spice veldt]

and since EP inherently relies on kills to get charges, soulstealer has the same functionality except that I'm always forward on my team

[languid tusk]

so you can proc it semi reliably

[upper galleon]

destiny just suffers from launch Warp charge issue

is that your team will just kill them first

[unique mist]

won't that be too strong

[upper galleon]

ehh? it can afford to be

the other 2 keystones are strong

if your team kills it but you get the buff, it would be a lot more helpful

i tried using DD i think i got 10 stacks at most

[woeful patio]

sometimes, but its always fast to fix

[fierce crest]

yeah the 30 stacks is so much worse than the 30s duration

cuz of how much of a pain it is to get a stack every 15 seconds

[upper galleon]

also it doesn't mark as much as it should? or at least I feel it should

[fierce crest]

yeah its bugged

it does mark

you just cant see

also it cant mark trash so if theres only trash

no marks

[vapid wagon]

wdym its fast to fix. isnt it thaat it either has collision or not?

[fierce crest]

[upper galleon]

it should mark a new enemy every second and then keep them marked as you mark new stuff, let it mark trash

[woeful patio]

If it does clip(which it rarely does) the next step you take fixes it

[unique mist]

also how do you know?

did they say it somewhere

or just community sentiment

[upper galleon]

or if you don't want it marking trash, let teammates kill still give you the buff

sentiment i believe I never heard it

[vapid wagon]

i see thanks a lot!

[upper galleon]

good idea, but there is several ways they can make DD better

[woeful patio]

Its a solid cosmetic tbh

[vapid wagon]

its i think the first one that kinda firs a female body

[fierce crest]

the fembod

[unique mist]

aw damn update made me lose all my loadouts (xbox)

[vapid wagon]

the description is even non gendered or whatever its called

[fierce crest]

non gendered is correct

could also say gender neutral

[upper galleon]

happened to everyone

[unique mist]

yeah

i just made them yesterday too

[fierce crest]

ah shit

[upper galleon]

intern tripped on pearls, hit the button they have to wipe loadouts if they do talent tree changes

[fierce crest]

my loadouts

[vapid wagon]

not the first time that this happens either

someone should make a mod that saves them locally

[unique mist]

werent clutching them hard enough

[fierce crest]

wait that sucks

not that big of a deal with old talents

[unique mist]

some guy on the patch thread said they lost 17 loadout slots lol

[fierce crest]

but the new talents

[upper galleon]

okay that is just mental

i didn't have above 4 on any class

3 was the most common and like, 4 on zealot and oggy

[fierce crest]

theres not even 17 different builds

[vapid wagon]

i mean if you maxed all cahrs you would have 20

[unique mist]

they were using extra loadout slot mod

[fierce crest]

deserved

cheaters

[acoustic spade]

this made me question my sanity for a while. Actually gaining IRL Peril

[fierce crest]

whats wrong with being a bit healthy

[acoustic spade]

No, its active, so is the node below it

[fierce crest]

oh

i see now

[acoustic spade]

I was trying to activate them

[unique mist]

kek

[fierce crest]

do you have the talent tree UX mod?

[acoustic spade]

nope

[west fox]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/887131268800725082/1161438651251695647/image.png?ex=65384d08&is=6525d808&hm=ca012efab544efdd0ce57fa65eee1d8a478dc9d05f1778667f0b72590a44c5fa&
For my melee psyker. Rolled good 👍

[fierce crest]

reset the whole tree, abort abort

[acoustic spade]

running fully vanilla cause I dont see the mods giving me enough QoL for the time I would spend setting it all up

[unique mist]

for dd, the purloin providence should always quell peril on marked target kill. 20% for 15% quell is stupid

[languid tusk]

overpowering souls or bio lodestone for assail psyker ?

[fierce crest]

yeah 100% for 5% would be cool

[fierce crest]

souls is usually better

[unique mist]

i say 100% for 10%

5% is nothing

[upper galleon]

yea it's just, battle mediation 2.0

[fierce crest]

if marking is fixed, 5% would be fine

[muted lantern]

can someone explain how the primary/secondary fire for assail and smite work, as it's a bit vague having tested them both out

[upper galleon]

except more specific lol

[fierce crest]

lock on

for assail

[upper galleon]

assail right click locks on and can travel farther

[radiant yew]

What's the best force sword

[unique mist]

for assail, it increases the speed and range of the shard and guarantees it hits that target, but generates more peril

[muted lantern]

is the enemy supposed to highlight like brainburst, as i haven't seen any visual signs?

[fierce crest]

smite m2 hits more targets

[acoustic spade]

ITS FINE, dont worry about it

[upper galleon]

not a guarantee

it can still get rng'd by terrain

[muted lantern]

is there any downside to just using the charged smite, the chargeup is trivially short

[upper galleon]

not currently

the thumbnail lies

insta cast does the same dps as charged cast

[fierce crest]

m2 yes, m1 no

[unique mist]

i've never had it not hit that target, even when it goes behind cover, but sure i can see terrain rng screwing it

[upper galleon]

also EP makes the entire channel 0 peril cost so

[spice veldt]

the RMB being a lock-on up to 50m

[muted lantern]

that's how it appeared, i thought the charge may not spread to targets, starting off with a larger number instead

but it doesn't seem to be the case

[acoustic spade]

oh wow, the lines all animated at once when I scrolled up and went back down

[fierce crest]

fun nerf would be to swap m1 and m2, m1 is slow firing and low peril, m2 is rapid fire but more peril per shot

[upper galleon]

yee it's mostly stuff like multiple pillars or a narrow doorway

[acoustic spade]

just heard a rapid bam bam bam

[unique mist]

my nerf idea was to make shards not regenerate at high peril (70%+)

[keen harbor]

I was gifted this by the emperor...

[acoustic spade]

nice

[keen harbor]

is it tho?

[acoustic spade]

Lasker lets go

[fierce crest]

yo that would be perfect for my build cuz i use mundande weapons and never get above like 30 peril

[fierce crest]

True Aim baybeeeee

[spice veldt]

assail RMB in action https://streamable.com/2qcjd6

[fierce crest]

honestly id want them to keep that

small lock on angle but a bit of stickiness

[spice veldt]

i don't like any aim assist

brain burst is already quite iffy but it's balanced by having dogshit damage output so I'm fine with it

[fierce crest]

to be fair shard m2s are a bit low dps as well

[spice veldt]

the RMB should just be a similarly fast but non-aim assisted mode

[fierce crest]

i feel like the m1s are the real busted part

nah make that the m1

m1 free aim, m2 lock on

[spice veldt]

as a quickswap weapon, it'd make sense to have the aim assist on the m1

[fierce crest]

eh true

[spice veldt]

just swap to it, press LMB without requiring two finger presses

and have the aimed mode be on the RMB to make it intuitive

[fierce crest]

it could still home after the first hit

[radiant yew]

By Him Upon Terra

[fierce crest]

terra deez nuts

wait

[long summit]

Came back recently after the update, have Psyker's always had access to a Chainsword?

[acoustic spade]

for a while now

idk if it was "always" but definitely before the update

[fierce crest]

we need a force hammer

im ready

[spice veldt]

it was always but they were peepee poopoo so no one used them except for swag

[acoustic spade]

This was my first Transcendant weapon on my Psyker

[radiant yew]

That is the sexiest weapon I have seen, possibly ever.

[acoustic spade]

It was an Emperor's Gift, ok?

[long summit]

I'll use anything. I just felt like I would've at least tried it if I had seen it before.

[radiant yew]

I love chain weapons and used them on principle even when they were bad

Skill can compensate for poor equipment on DC3 and below

[acoustic spade]

DC?

[unique mist]

I got these yesterday

But I bet they will get bad perks or blessings because idk what I am doing lol

and I picked this up from melk which I reckon was a mistake but it had a blessing combo I wanted to try

[wicked crown]

finally_some_good_fucking_food.jpg

the worst thing is this was my first voidstrike roll on a 350+

[vapid wagon]

does surge count for secondary attack?

[royal falcon]

yes

[acoustic spade]

Oh, so Surge Staff does use up the guaranteed Crit from True Aim

Nice to know

[unreal tapir]

best way to get good blessings just to upgrade desired weapon to blue and repeat?

[vapid wagon]

check mealk too if he has any t4 you want

[unreal tapir]

hes not kind to me like that

[tropic geyser]

that is great, nice staff. i need to find surge, i use the quell on weakshot with that setup right now

[unreal tapir]

melk doesnt even sell the weapon type i want xd

[vapid wagon]

if you check every day eventually you will get something from him. it could potentially save you a lot of plasteel

[acoustic spade]

Large Plasteel containers are more abundant than Diamantine in Malice atleast >.>

[fierce crest]

i mainly use him to get t4 blessings

i dont expect him to get good stat rolls

[acoustic spade]

He only ever has t2-t3 blessings >.>

[unreal tapir]

rip my plasteel, at least its abundant now compared to when i played before

[vapid wagon]

exactly thats the only thing i use him for aswell

[unreal tapir]

i should be able to rip this trash weapon apart for materials instead of useless money

[vapid wagon]

t4

[harsh urchin]

Upgrade weapons with 360+ for better chance to roll the blessings you want

[fierce crest]

yeah, itd be neat if higher rarity weapons gave some % of the plas and diam you spend to make it

[unreal tapir]

makes sense

[harsh urchin]

Otherwise yeah that is the grind in this game

You can usually get what you want in 5-10k plasteel

[unreal tapir]

5-10k

[still hearth]

Siblings

BB sucks

[unreal tapir]

not actually that bad now that plasteel is so much more common than before

[still hearth]

Enjoy your day

[unreal tapir]

yes, but be careful, other psykers will crucify you for saying that xd

[still hearth]

Come at me losers

[unreal tapir]

SURGE IV

1/2 obtained

[fierce crest]

the only blitz that deletes bulwarks and crushers at any range

[unreal tapir]

half way to making a good staff

[fierce crest]

thats

that has no bearing on if its good or not

yeah and bb does that at more ranges

smite does that too

[still hearth]

Slowly kills them and is only useful at peace times you mean

People need to shit on BB more so they actually buff it ok

[fierce crest]

yeah no one thinks it is

did you know if you use empowered psionics smite its also better than bb

wow

[still hearth]

Smite is better than BB

[fierce crest]

things that need to be nerfed are better than things that dont

[still hearth]

No need for any buffs

I mean base smite is okay

[fathom stream]

If I wanna go Scrier's gaze disrupt destiny, are either of these two worth consecrating all the way up, or is that just the complete wrong gunpsyker setup?

[still hearth]

BB just needs a bit more oomph (preferably in the speed department)

[still hearth]

Idk about laspistol but the perks are bad ont both

[fathom stream]

yeah thought as much..

[still hearth]

Try Vraks 3 btw

Sick gun rn

[onyx sentinel]

I wish they change the blitz subtree so you can get any node below it regardless of which you choose

[still hearth]

Get Headhunter and uhh damage on weakspot crits

[harsh urchin]

The first one is pretty decent statwise

[near walrus]

Recommended dump stat for surge staffs?

[harsh urchin]

For that pistol the base stats and perks are more important than blessings

[fathom stream]

will look into it!

[onyx sentinel]

Not being able to spec into the “peril has no move penalty” if you pick brain burst sucks

[harsh urchin]

Since you need to head one hit breakpoints

[still hearth]

Just swap to staff

Easy

[unreal tapir]

for such a fast paced horde game bb just feels gross to use in 99% of situations. never liked it

[still hearth]

Important note is that the recoil is better if you're moving on headhunters

[upper galleon]

ehh that is the trade off

[still hearth]

Literally less recoil while moving for reasons

[upper galleon]

sucks that assail can't get 5% cdr on elite kill but that is how talents work

[fathom stream]

if i end up with a decent second blessing, what would proper perks be?

[upbeat parcel]

BB felt nicer to use when u got cast speed buffs from warp charges

[still hearth]

Not for other classes

[crude cape]

question, why is sustained fire never really talked about on trauma? is it bc 3rd and 4th casts are hard to get to? you can do quick ones to build up tho. i guess 20% dmg isnt a ton

[fathom stream]

interesting

[spice veldt]

cheap to move to the other side of psyker's tree, but you're locked out of certain options

[upper galleon]

^

[still hearth]

It doesn't work on secondary fire I believe

[harsh urchin]

Usually its flak maniac; but test it in the grinder; if you cant oneshot headshot unarmored shooters you can go unarmored/flak

[still hearth]

And even if it does it resets on a timer now iirc

[harsh urchin]

The goal is to oneshot all flak/unarmored shooters

[crude cape]

oh, well that makes sense. good ol' trauma and all its working blessings

[still hearth]

I can't confirm that though but I think it used to bw rhe case

[fathom stream]

Thanks!

[long wharf]

ffffffffffffffffffffffff

my loadouts!

https://tenor.com/view/avatar-cabbages-gif-5990800

[still hearth]

I anticipated this

So I always remade my loadouts

[long wharf]

imagine having 12 loadouts saved using that mod

per class.

[still hearth]

(Actually I just remade builds so often it was annoying)

[harsh urchin]

certain weapons really rely on blessings for the boost, but other ones the base stats and perks are much more important

So keep that in mind while you game

Have fun!

[primal plume]

Not sure if bug but the Surge staff does a lot of damage to assassination targets

[fierce crest]

surge is really good single target, void can outdo that esp vs carapace

[primal plume]

im talking about assassination specifically

[long wharf]

Surge staff isn't good enough to use over Void though

[primal plume]

its just what ive noticed anyway

[half turtle]

man there was an auric maelstrom yesterday that was "no ammo all melee enemies" and it was fucking great, i'm still sad it's gone

[primal plume]

Ive been using surge + assail and im getting really good results

[half turtle]

and i'm annoyed again about not being able to pick missions

[primal plume]

assail for AOE surge for ST

[long wharf]

Surge is good for one target, not very good for two, and almost bad for three

[primal plume]

surge lets you stay mobile and charge faster, plus you can pixel snipe

[tropic geyser]

I just flexed into that instead of voidstrike smite. im liking it also

[edgy finch]

how uncanny strike on the deimos?

[half turtle]

btw how do people make smite do damage?

[primal plume]

Thats why you dont use it in that situation, but it charges up and kills really fast that it can handle it

[half turtle]

i tried smite and it's literally just cc but i seem to see videos of it killing stuff

[fathom stream]

a lot of weapons, seems daunting to learn all, but makes sense. Still having a blast with the game, my biggest problem is I suck at defensive play

[half turtle]

but idk if the videos are just on lower diff or something

[long wharf]

I think the Surge staff should do full damage to every target it touches

[half turtle]

or if there's some secret smite dps tech i'm missing