psyker-class

[potent echo]

Same, but warp siphon

[naive imp]

what is bb?

[frail pewter]

Why did they change warp charge to Specials only 😭

[strange hearth]

Brain Burst

[potent echo]

Specials and elites

[frail pewter]

Erm Brain Rupture

It used to be called Brain Burst, hence BB

[paper fern]

Jimmy neutron attack

[frail pewter]

True but I'm sad

[pseudo oar]

Same. Super versatile. You can handle hordes, elites and bosses.

[frail pewter]

Yeah

[forest lance]

Kinda wish the random headpops would happen every 10 seconds instead of 15, but... overall, I'm having fun being a living flamethrower

[potent echo]

Purg gang rise up

[carmine agate]

i want more random headpops

[frail pewter]

I love this and it (hopefully) will escape the next round of nerfs since it's not outrageously broken.

[naive imp]

i think that talent should be 3-5 seconds tbh

[strange hearth]

purge is best staff

[carmine agate]

do u spray the purg around?

[forest lance]

That might be a little much. Most I'd go is cut it in half, from 15 to 7.5 seconds

[pseudo oar]

Assail is stealing the show so I think we are safe

[naive imp]

it's a 10% chance on a 15 seconds cooldown

[carmine agate]

im trying to find a nice purg staff

[forest lance]

fair

[naive imp]

pretty low

[orchid nest]

I don't think purg/bb is an any threat of nerfs, it's solidly just strong. if anything BB will get a buff

[fresh reef]

to people still wondering why people think Assail should be nerfed

top damage, downed at least 10 times

[forest lance]

but also think about ALL those ticks from Purge staff

[fresh reef]

auric qp

[naive imp]

3-5 seconds though

once every 5 seconds

[round charm]

still got room?

[forest lance]

fair

[naive imp]

it's not op at all

[naive imp]

oh yea

[forest lance]

whoa, am I stupid? Where's the breakdown screen?

[frail pewter]

Assail in a not great player's hand is good. But I've seen a good player with Assail and they made the game trivially easy

[fresh reef]

?

[frail pewter]

It's a mod?

[round charm]

assail has a weird skill floor

[strange hearth]

this is kinda like what I use

[carmine agate]

whoa

[naive imp]

where anyone can use it?

[carmine agate]

i got a good 377 base

[forest lance]

I'd rather have Assail only get a slight nerf, and have the other two blitzes get buffed up than see Assail get dumpstered

[carmine agate]

what stat should i ideally be 80 for purg staff?

[pseudo oar]

@frail pewter when running BB/purg, how do you handle squads of shooters from medium-long range? Brain burst?

[forest lance]

and I'm a headpopper

[frail pewter]

Hahahaha
Haha
Ha
😭😭😭

[forest lance]

mark them for your Vet or Bigboi

[pseudo oar]

Thought so 😂

[orchid nest]

cloud radius and burn should be like 76 or 77 or whatever I forget. one of those is the breakpoint for the last burn stack

[round charm]

yes and no. anyone can take it, but it takes a little work to get it actually functional and not just there

[frail pewter]

Hey we have 3 other monkeys on the team. If this monkey can kill all the specials and melee chaffs, I pray to the Lord Almighty that they can at least shoot some shooters.

[forest lance]

I just like Purge/BB because blue fire pretty

[fresh reef]

spam BB, really
though if you can it's much easier to close the gap and just burn them down

[pseudo oar]

That works for me until they ignore the shooters and move on, leaving me pinned down 😂

[fresh reef]

dome placed way in front of you gives you a metric fuckton of room to push up into purgatus range

[frail pewter]

No I feel you. Then you whip out your Illisi, crab walk sideway to the shooters with your block up and cosplay Zealots.

[orchid nest]

yeah for sure, it's never been easier to close into purg range on shooters with dome/walls

[mossy sonnet]

pros/cons of the bubble vs shields?

[frail pewter]

But yeah. I guess if you take the Push F, you can stack enough Peril so 6 Soul Blaze kills the shooters?

[round charm]

bubble is more coverage with toughness regen, other shield just stops dogs

[frail pewter]

I think that still works

[orchid nest]

coverage vs utility basically

[near wyvern]

Why not Assail tho?

[fresh reef]

because they're running BB, doofus

[carmine agate]

why when im testing in meat grinder the purg staff do so little on the big stone hammer dood

crusher i think?

[near wyvern]

Yes but why run BB

[pseudo oar]

I like to have incentive to do other things besides throw rocks. I have an ogryn for that.

[near wyvern]

The break points for BB are fucked up

[mossy sonnet]

it's a DoT effect when crushers need immediate damage

[fresh reef]

because assail is boring and smite is meh

[fresh reef]

still oneshots hounds

[carmine agate]

ah i see

thanks

[spice veldt]

Soulblaze deals 10% damage to carapace

[near wyvern]

This is not true, doesn't do that without buffs

[pseudo oar]

That’s why you run BB with purg

[carmine agate]

i see

[fresh reef]

unless they're getting shot beforehand, I've been oneshotting hounds all day without EP

[spice oar]

ok you have to watch your peril so you dont blow up but scriers gaze voidstrike with exorcist is kinda goated

[near wyvern]

But if you gonna go with purge staff, you pick Assails and then Uncanny Excecutor Deimos and you have no weakness

[frail pewter]

I also oneshot hounds on Auric Damnation?

With BB

[near wyvern]

Check Atheneum, not possible without buffs

[fresh reef]

this is brilliant
but I like this

[near wyvern]

Hounds have 1400 HP and rupture does 1275 to hounds without additional buffs

[frail pewter]

Sometimes people are so obsessed with the most broken things currently they forget that preferences exist.

[frail pewter]

Is that's true then just love tap them idk

[weak sapphire]

Is quietude working for stuff that is auto quelled from other abilities or must I manually quell to regain toughness from quietude

[fresh reef]

@near wyvern

[orchid nest]

basically everyone has warp rider that's why they are getting 1 tapped

[weak sapphire]

Also anyone testing out psyker melee build with Scriers Gaze and Disrupt destiny?

[near wyvern]

Yeah you have additional buffs

Fun fact

Warp Rider is +10% and then additional +10% based on Peril

They just don't want to mention it

[fresh reef]

still oneshots hounds

buffs or not, it's practically impossible to not hit that breakpoint with the build I'm currently running

[near wyvern]

With warp rider yes, but holy shit it takes time to go through crushers and maulers

[fresh reef]

true, but usually I find soulblaze deals with Maulers just fine

Crushers are a pain, but EP + Kinetic Barrage makes them fall in a reasonable amount of time

[near wyvern]

Uncanny Excecutor Deimos is really strong in this patch. You can kill crushers in two L1H2 combos.

And you know how fast that is.

Plus the H2 staggers them

[fresh reef]

that would require me to get into crushing distance, though

[near wyvern]

Yup

[fresh reef]

(you're not going to fact me into running a better build because I'm having fun and being effective with this one, fyi)

[orchid nest]

I'm still running trauma. and chainsword. I usually duo though so it feels more necessary

[idle bay]

Does anyone else thinks that simply throwing one shard with Assail a guiding it through the heads is better than spamming bunch of them and barely guiding them?

[near wyvern]

If you want something fun and not optimal try:
Surge staff, Shred Blazing Spirit Illisi

• combustion
• BR
• kinetic flayer
• wildfire
• double stun shields
• no keystones

Spread the rest to toughness regen by different means, cooldown reduction aura and dodge on crit

Pick also the warp damage on crit, easy to load up with LMB quell cancels since you don't need to actually hit anything to get the stacks

[lyric burrow]

does cleave damage matter for mk4 dueling sword if its not gonna be used for horde clear anyway

[fresh reef]

No

[naive imp]

are you using venting scream to apply soulblaze?

[fresh reef]

Purgatus

[carmine agate]

do people take empowered psionics or warp siphon for bb?

and purg

[vestal fulcrum]

I take EP, because it’s more consistent

[naive imp]

ahh. i watched a psyker use purg all game and at the end do the least amount of damage. lol

definitely needs buffed imo

[fresh reef]

here, have a build

[carmine agate]

thanks

[fresh reef]

sounds like skill issue to me

[naive imp]

feel free to post some screenies. i haven't seen a purg staff do much of anything tbh.

surge i have seen

[idle bay]

@near wyvern I have a question about True Aim node - how does Void staff penetrating shots interract with it? Only initial hit counts - or does every hit in line contribute to it?

[orchid nest]

I think purg/smite will be fun when they fix the single target thing. a bit specialized of course but at least you won't lose a single target damage burst for tougher targets from your blitz

[noble zenith]

Didn't see people talking it here but the Smite being able to infinitely cast unlimited powa with the Empowered Psyonics is a bug or intentionally made like that?
Because the description definitely doesn't tell that lel

[naive imp]

single target thing?

[orchid nest]

yeah the single target burst of damage on the channel or whatever it says just doesn't even work right now

[atomic tapir]

wait there is a scoarboard?

[orchid nest]

I am not in the game or I'd screenshot the tooltip

[lyric burrow]

its a mod

[atomic tapir]

ah ok

[frail pewter]

What mod is this? Not the scoreboard one, but the history

[noble zenith]

Purgatus is still good af
I used to run only it before the update 🙃
Combined with the 6 warps peril reduction and extra damage and you make zealot flammen looks like a joke

[fresh reef]

it's part of the scoreboard mod. hit f5 ingame

[frail pewter]

I see

[near wyvern]

Every headshot counts

If you shoot hordes to head you can do back to back quaranteed crits

The problem is you run out of heads

But I guess that's a positive problem

[idle bay]

It's the goal not the problem 🙂

[frail pewter]

I never get any heads

So not a problem in the first place

[raw token]

bro what, just got to the end of the mission about to win and it said sorry the mission is aborted due to an unexpected error

[frail pewter]

Skill issue.

[kind jay]

sounds like you got d

[fresh panther]

Happened to me once since patch, someone just posted this happened to them at the same time in another channel - just the servers shitting themselves

[raw token]

amazing

[old aurora]

can the bio lightning crit?

[orchid nest]

time for another emergency hotfix and nuke everyones loadouts again they just rebuilt

[left cedar]

smite cant for what I’m experiencing

[frigid sparrow]

Unlimited smite is over-rated

Even if you abuse dash mechanics to run around the room, you get to a point where your smite is hurting the team because enemies are stuck in bad spots

[idle bay]

Switching to Assail addiction withdrawal... beforehand. Back to good old BB, and mostly focusing on using staff

[left cedar]

assail still the go to

[frigid sparrow]

I swapped back to warp charges, the peril gen is really good at max stacks and lets you do some cool stuff

[left cedar]

Assail+true aim is amazing tbh

It gives u guarantee 3 crit every 3-4casts

[orchid nest]

yeah you can also delay a problem so long that it becomes a worse problem in something like maelstrom if it suddenly breaks to a trash mob. I have been running smite lately without EP cause just don't want to abuse it. it could use a peril reduction baseline though when they fix the EP thing

[old aurora]

is there a staff build out there that actually utilizes the staff reload attack speed stuff?

[idle bay]

To much people angry and vocal with Assail being too good. FS might listen and tweak it in sad way.

[frigid sparrow]

Yeah, I understand that. It's a timing thing for me. You get a really decent cast time with max stacks. Every time I'd get to a point where the unlimited duration was becoming useful, things were mostly dead.

[left cedar]

Yea I can’t come up a reason FS not nerfing assail

[idle bay]

We had fun while it lasted anyway 🙂

Ans still last for a week or so

True level 212 on Psyker... i should probaly play other classes too....

[orchid nest]

Yeah for sure. Trying to abuse it too much and it hits a detrimental point pretty quickly for mission clearing speed. It will be great with some changes and the single target burst working

[left cedar]

who wanna use ammo

I feel BB will shine if they fixed EP glitch on BB

[frail pewter]

What's the glitch? That it consumes EP if the target is killed by teammates?

[left cedar]

you canno go 0stack of EP to 1stacks with BB

[thin finch]

The issue with assail comes from the fact that the other two choices are not great either in term of damage
Still have not tried BB yet with the change but I feel like it has no room right now and will just feel bad

[left cedar]

It will automatically consumed when u generate the charge

[frail pewter]

I'm so confused sorry

[left cedar]

So u have to kill an elite with melee/range wep to use EP on BB

[charred shuttle]

Excruciangly slow, yes. And you become almost immobile when casting it.

There is just no comparison to assail atm

[left cedar]

that says if u pop an elite head with 0 charge of EP you will still sit at 0 charge

[orchid nest]

is EP not broken or at least misleading on anything? like even assail pierces more things with ep up right? someone mentioned that at least

[thin finch]

BB is supposed to be an elite dispatcher while asail a horde dispatcher from what I get but BB fail at it's job due to high peril cost, slow charge and movement + conflicting with your ally

While asail excel at both

[left cedar]

nope, assail only hit up to 3 times

If u have the node attach to it activated

[orchid nest]

i'll take your word for it. someone said it pierced more with the node and EP but I haven't even gone back to assail since then

[frail pewter]

I see. That makes sense bc sometimes I wonder why I don't get anything for killing elites.

[left cedar]

if u feel ur hitting less it’s ur not aiming well

[thin finch]

And BB feels bad with warp charge.
It's combo with the middle keystone is cool tho

[left cedar]

assail is always tracking ur crosshair

[frail pewter]

If only it doesn't consume EP with BB on normal enemies

[naive imp]

Smite shouldn’t build much peril at all tbh. It does virtually zero damage.

[thin finch]

I get why but I think it's part of the slight balance of "be carefull where you aim"
This might be a feeling but it's easier to target marked ennemy for BB

[near wyvern]

Surge staff LMB spam with evasion, mettle and perfect timing

Quell cancel machine gun that shit and it's more effective than you think

Then you also have the RMB which is ok against anything

[orchid nest]

yeah just tested it, empowered assail does indeed hit up to 6 targets like the person claimed

[echo turtle]

Anyone recommend some blessings on a void strike?

[orchid nest]

with the node too

[left cedar]

kk ty for testing

[still hearth]

Surge

[left cedar]

surge+nexus imo

[old aurora]

yeah I wanna play around with a bit^^

[orchid nest]

surge and nexus is good yeah. you can do without nexus and abuse true aim, taking a quality of life option as the second blessing is fine too

[left cedar]

surge is basically +100% crit dmg, with heavy loaded crit buffs in talent u will out dmg most randos in damnation

[still hearth]

It's better than that

[fathom adder]

If you hate Assail you can at least get the passive chance-on-hit talent for Brain Burst and never worry about having to actually use it 🤣

[still hearth]

Crit damage is alway worse than damage

[subtle monolith]

can anyone give me MAX useful build for psyker

like full team player psyker

anyone

[still hearth]

Do you want to abuse bugs or nah

[subtle monolith]

uh

idk maybe

[left cedar]

abusing warp charge+dome or take left tree of shield

[steady edge]

You can get a lot of shields without the bug hehe

[still hearth]

Voidstrike + Smite + Dome + Warp Charges

Infinite bubbles

[echo turtle]

Sure works on the charge shots?

[still hearth]

Yes

[thin finch]

I actually like assail but it will get shafted.
Now BB on it is delicious with a dueling sword, poking a bad guys head and seeing the pop that follow is playing the lottery and I love it

[subtle monolith]

I mean I want kinda of fair

play

[naive imp]

And it hits like a mac truck. Idc what the damage reads, it kills stuff in game in 1 shot that it has zero business killing.

[limber heath]

I was using a BB soulblaze build and it was working fine in hi int shock 5, like yea it's no assail but it's pretty usable . My only complaint is that I wish the targetting went for elites more but that's just skill issue

[thin finch]

Markbthem first

[drowsy slate]

Why smite?

[vocal sundial]

what blessings do you put on a dueling sword

[still hearth]

In case you have 15 crushers surrounding you

[limber heath]

Ooh does it prio marked? Good to know (again, skill issue here cuz in still new)

[frail pewter]

Marking as in pinging? Does that help with prioritization?

[drowsy slate]

But you can’t channel it infinite with warp charges right?

[still hearth]

No

[thin finch]

I have no empirical evidence but if feels like it when I play

[frail pewter]

I feel like BB already has target prio built in

[naive imp]

If you see the blue outline around a target you don’t want, you just stop and try again.

[still hearth]

You can still stunlock indefinitely without it, you just need go manage peril some

[limber heath]

Oh okay great so I'm not delusional. I mean marking should help with finding the target in a group of pox so I think it's still fine

Wdym blue outline

[naive imp]

lol wut?

[limber heath]

Oh

[still hearth]

The head glow

[limber heath]

You meant the head glow

[naive imp]

When you start casting bb it puts blue around their head

[orchid nest]

Assail honestly isn't too bad completely baseline, it gets silly though with the connected talents and EP and true aim. Hopefully it is mostly adjusted through talents because nerfing the baseline too much just locks you in even harder and reduces choice

[still hearth]

Assail is silly even without EP

[naive imp]

I don’t have true aim. I have zero damage talents and I consistently go through missions using ONLY assail. I switch to void staff for monstrosities.

[still hearth]

I've ran warp charges and it's still so strong

[naive imp]

It does WAY too much damage.

[thin finch]

My only gripe is the consume on ability use

[orchid nest]

It's good but the talents are responsible for a lot of the overpowered part and if they nerf the baseline too far (I'm not saying it needs no nerfs baseline) you just have zero choice in talent placement after that if you wanted to float one somewhere else or not take EP

[noble zenith]

If they make it so it deals less damage to elites, specialist etc but keep them good for hordes I'll be fine tbh

[frail pewter]

I think assail should be the same against normal enem and do like 1/3 damage vs non normal ones

[naive imp]

It kills a scab rager with 1 bolt. Meanwhile it’ll take someone 3 heavies

[still hearth]

Yeah but with assail you get those back instantly on Auric missions

[drowsy slate]

Ok so a Little venting is enough?

[limber heath]

Assail doesn't even need EP. The damage isn't really the problem it's the fact that you can throw 10 of them instead of only having like 4

[naive imp]

Ntm it will hit 3-6 targets

[naive imp]

The damage is too high for sure

[drowsy slate]

Tbh I enyojed infinite smite quite a lot 😂

[still hearth]

Yeah, the end of smite staggers enemies for a while so you can vent and restart

[left cedar]

assail hits like dueling sword heavy atk

[subtle monolith]

ok no support builds I guess

going full assail

[naive imp]

The issue it’s it’s warp damage and stuff doesn’t have resistance to it

[subtle monolith]

tho it is so busted

[noble zenith]

Assail?*

[still hearth]

This is the support build

[left cedar]

2shot all mobs, 4shot gunners

[steady edge]

I was playing an assail/dome/warp charge build with surge staff that was nice

[still hearth]

Support the team by killing enemies

[subtle monolith]

fair enough

[thin finch]

Sadly I am mostly a smite enjoyer

[naive imp]

A weapon that does 350 damage? Versus armor it’ll be like 80. Meanwhile assail is doing 150 baseline with zero bonuses.

Pretty dumb

[still hearth]

Then get a purgatus and blaze Shriek combo

[noble zenith]

Same, but sometimes I keep changing between warp and EP

[still hearth]

Ez pz

[left cedar]

And assail is buffed by 15% warp dmg after crit, 24%dmg from warp charge, up to 20% dmg on peril

and those are all passive buffs doesn’t need any setups

[naive imp]

It’s over 200 TRUE damage before you factor a crit

[limber heath]

The damage on damnation requires like 2-3 headshots (not sure what with EP) to kill elites/specials no? I stopped playing assail a while ago cuz it was mind numbing. If you only had 3 or 4 charges that damage is entirely reasonable imo.

[still hearth]

It's not true damage.

[naive imp]

Which is why it 1 shots stuff on heresy and higher still. Lol

[naive imp]

Does anything have warp resistance in this game?

[still hearth]

That's not a thing

[naive imp]

And if it does…

[noble zenith]

Never killed elites in one shot with assail lol

[still hearth]

Attacks do different damage to different armors

Based on the attack

[left cedar]

not true dmg but only carapace u will notice significant reduction

[noble zenith]

(hounds I guess it does that)

[naive imp]

I’m telling you…assail is not getting reduced.

[snow dust]

staffs?

[left cedar]

it deal less dmg against infested/carapace

but ur killing zombies with dmg buffs anyway and u don’t wanna use assail on crushers

[naive imp]

I’ve legit seen an assail bolt go through and 1 shot stacks of these.

[noble zenith]

How

[naive imp]

Even on heresy

[noble zenith]

Gonna have to stack all Crit damage and changes for that lmao

[limber heath]

Test it in psyk

[snow dust]

Behold:

[near wyvern]

?

[summer prairie]

assail weakspot crits with all buffs can do 1400ish at least

[naive imp]

Then idk why assail is 1 shotting stuff.

[still hearth]

It isn't

[snow dust]

Because of the God-Emperor, duh.

[naive imp]

And so it auto aims at the head 70% of the time

[snow dust]

Shh, let him have it. The God-Emperor protects

[naive imp]

And every 2-3 is a guaranteed crit

[thin finch]

Tbh I did not try a soulblaze yet because I have fun playing Sword And Gun psyker with scrier gaze currently

[summer prairie]

but that was with 30 stacks of DD

[noble zenith]

I've been playing a lot, I've never seen assail one shot a full HP elite/specialist on Heresy, and specially carapace enemies

[drowsy slate]

What’s that?

[naive imp]

I’ve seen it 1 shot many things on heresy when people said it is “supposed to fall off”.

[thin finch]

Impossible

[subtle monolith]

they really need to add ability to change voices of characters

[summer prairie]

in the grinder

[still hearth]

You use Purgatus with Shriek that puts on Soulblaze and 10% chance for Warp Charges on Soulblaze kills

[subtle monolith]

where?

what

[limber heath]

Anyone who says it's supposed to fall off is delusional tbh

[still hearth]

Well they do have about 50% more HP on Heresy but idk what this is about "falling off"

[summer prairie]

psykhanium

[still hearth]

Assail is broken on the hardest difficulty

[viscid matrix]

it does 100 base damage, but it can do up to 500 damage easily with buffs

[limber heath]

Unless they mean supposed to as in what FS intended

[naive imp]

Then how is it killing shit on heresy? 1 bolt

[noble zenith]

Because of said buffs?

[viscid matrix]

damage buffs on your talent tree

[noble zenith]

Still very situation related

[viscid matrix]

you can crit with it to give itself a buff

[thin finch]

I don't think whatever asail isbdoing is not what big fish intended

[naive imp]

It doesn’t seem so. It seems like so far, up to heresy. People are just running through levels with 1-4 psykers and blue icicles flying all over killing everything.

[near wyvern]

Because you can stack buffs you silly, Assail can hit 1k with head shot with a proper setup without a crit, but it's a bit hard to achieve realistically. With ctits 1k is very possible.

[noble zenith]

I guess so, I haven't used with true aim or other Crit chance buffs

[noble zenith]

But again, you need to achieve and maintain those buffs

[still hearth]

That's how it is in Damnation too

[naive imp]

What’s difficult about it? There’s a talent that guarantees a crit every 2-3 assail

[smoky lance]

So does anyone agree with me that with the right build lightning psyker can be the most broken horde breaker?

[still hearth]

Assail isn't something that falls off

[naive imp]

No

[noble zenith]

I was talking about base damage one shotting elite/specialist... which seems very odd

[thin finch]

Which lighting ?

[drowsy slate]

I will try void smite bubble charges … i think I could enjoy that a lot 🤔

[smoky lance]

The lightning tree that makes you feel like palpatine. If you get empowered psionics your chain will never end

Its broken af

[viscid matrix]

overtuned, bugged and bugged

[naive imp]

It’s nutty. Also, I was under the impression that it was only 3 targets per charge but someone posted that they tested the empowered can hit 6 targets.

[thin finch]

Then no ,takes forever to kill

[noble zenith]

Shields are indeed bugged as fuxk

[naive imp]

Which you only need 5 weakspot hits for the guaranteed crit

[thin finch]

You might try to get all the damage up possible available but you will go from 5 dot to 15 at best

[noble zenith]

I've managed to cast 5 shields in 5 seconds once doing animation cancelling and lag

[viscid matrix]

just kill a specialist or elite between each shield, you can get 10 plus shields up at a time easily

[thin finch]

Which is cool but soulblazing away might still be better for horde clearing

[noble zenith]

Yeah that too but my point it that the ability use counter is not working?

[drowsy slate]

Well smite with warp charges isn’t bugged

[noble zenith]

Like it says 2 charges but then sometimes I use one and it doesn't take away the one charge

[viscid matrix]

true, but dome shield with warp charges is

[viscid matrix]

1 warp charge gives shield 100% cooldown instead of 7.5% its supposed to be

[trim garnet]

so thats how i see people spamming dome so much.....

[near wyvern]

It's Difficult without ctits.

Because this is all you need to be on when you hit:

[smoky lance]

I use it as mostly defense for my team. Letting them have it as a safety net while they go and melee so no ammo is wasted

[limber heath]

I think it's just venting that isn't bugged right

[noble zenith]

Oh that would explain it

Does it say on the tooltip? I don't remember seeing that

[noble zenith]

FatShark at it's finest

[viscid matrix]

you forgot crits

[drowsy slate]

What is the option? Drop charges for blitz keystone? Then u have smite bug? Change to assail? You have overtune… I could go back to BB or gun psyker 😐

[near wyvern]

Nope, just haven't tested that

Same for armour modifiers

[thin finch]

For Crowd Control it is indeed great tho

[near wyvern]

There is a shit ton to test and I want to get the Atheneum to some base state

[naive imp]

They need to make it so you have to actually aim the skill

Lol

[viscid matrix]

ahh, fair enough, ive had a assail shard do over 600 damage to a crusher due to a crit, cause it ignored the armour for some reason

[naive imp]

Imagine

[drowsy slate]

I think there isn’t much room besides need to exploit bugs because there is no way around 😂

[silent chasm]

I AM AT 295 OF FUCKING 300 ON WARP BATTERY. I AM FUCKING PISSED THE GAME STOLE THAT FROM ME

AAAAAAUGH

[wooden flare]

Went down? Died?

[silent chasm]

whole team shat the bed, twice nearly.

[wooden flare]

Damn

Someone walk onto a Dhost?

[olive ember]

oof

[silent chasm]

If it didn't spawn a Spawn a ROOM AFTER A PISSCUNTING OGRYN AND DOWN 3/4 OF US, I'D BE DONE BY NOW.

[viscid matrix]

at the final room, where there is a constant horde of trash mobs, use either Psychic Vampire or In Fire Reborn, and just sit there farming the trash with a purga or melee weapon

[tropic geyser]

trying to get a surge staff for a crit build. Just got pretty lucky on the upgrades on this white. I didn't even have tier 4 warp nexus unlocked for it yet. What modifications would anyone do to finish it off?

[wooden flare]

So it does have to be 300 consecutive seconds then huh?

[crude cape]

What would you guys say is the "meta" psyker build atm.
Void staff, dueling sword or force sword, and what talents? Assail + shield?

[formal ridge]

what would u do with this,

[silent chasm]

I wish I'd made it there. Also TWICE I've tried to do that, and twice they just... stopped spawning while we waited at the helepad

[olive ember]

It’s always been yeah if it wasn’t consecutive that achieve would be easy

[raw token]

sounds abt right

[wooden flare]

Sadly

[viscid matrix]

upgrade to orange first, then let us see it before you do any modification

[naive imp]

Assail. Empowered psionics

[near wyvern]

Roll again till you get something with 76% burn

[naive imp]

Void staff for boss

[silent chasm]

300 seconds total in a single mission, 12 full drain stacks worth

[olive ember]

Assail shield or assail shriek but

[wooden flare]

Not consecutive?

[near wyvern]

Pls no bully staff

[noble zenith]

I liek all my psykers builds and I trust all of them in missions xD

[silent chasm]

No, just 300 in a single mission, as I just said

[olive ember]

Is it not consecutive?

[wooden flare]

Oh that makes it easier… somewhat

[naive imp]

300 seconds of what?

[still hearth]

Assail base damage to body seems to be:
Maniac - 250
Flak - 188
Unyielding - 125
Infested - 188
Unarmored - 250
Carapace - 13

[wooden flare]

Still have to pray for randoms

[olive ember]

Huh pretty sure it was

Oh well

[viscid matrix]

https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1158835513789272126

[wooden flare]

Max warp charges

[raw token]

yeah i mean i have one for every staff and gunker and they all work just fine on t5

[wooden flare]

which last 25 seconds

[silent chasm]

NO, IN A SINGLE MISSION, AS I JUST SAID, 'AE?

[wooden flare]

so if you waited until the last second, you’d have to refresh 12 times

[naive imp]

Can you test weakspot hits? Or does that not get a bonus?

[silent chasm]

precisely.

[viscid matrix]

fairly sure its consecutive, or at least it used to be

[olive ember]

It def used to be if it wasn’t that shit would’ve been ez

[wooden flare]

It just says maintain max warp charge for 300s in a single mission

[viscid matrix]

it does get weakpoint hits

[olive ember]

Maybe they changed it

[wooden flare]

Never says in total or consecutively

[still hearth]

Yeah they do way more on weakspots. Especially on Carapace it seems

It does nearly 5x damage on carapace weakspots

[dawn wolf]

I'm happy psyker is so deadly and they should be OP/most damage class.

[covert coyote]

Can one you smart psyker fellows explain what "Maximum warp charges" are? is it like full peril or?

[wooden flare]

Left captstone

[still hearth]

It's the bottom left keystone

[naive imp]

Bottom left of the tree

[olive ember]

Max warp charges, left tree

[crude cape]

these channels for builds aren't showing up for me unless somieone links. How do I see them normally?

[viscid matrix]

getting 300 nonconsecutive would be easy as hell, i think it has to be consecutive

[covert coyote]

ah gotta get to lvl 30ish.. buggery

[olive ember]

It used to be baked into the class but class rework made warp charges an entirely optional thing

[tropic geyser]

the keystone for warp charges, bnottom left of skill tree, 4 is max unless you upgrade it to 6

[wooden flare]

Tell that to the dude who got 295 seconds

[covert coyote]

cheers

[dawn wolf]

Also, you have to stay at max warp charges for 5 min (300 sec) for the achievement

[noble zenith]

Og BB + purgatus + warp charge with venting
Assail + force + EP with stunning shields
Smite + voidstrike + EP with either damage vent or shield
Or even Gun psiker with a main assail build

[olive ember]

So it is consecutive or in total

[wooden flare]

Total from what it sounds like

[olive ember]

Idk cuz I remember it being consecutive

[silent chasm]

this is what it says precisely

[wooden flare]

Hope FS improves the wording for it as well as fixing the other penance bugs

[olive ember]

But maybe they changed it

[dawn wolf]

Consecutive, meaning you need to get to max stacks and then stay there before you lose even one

[wooden flare]

Also it has to be on Heresy or higher

Not Malice

[covert coyote]

Literally what im doing, pain

[naive imp]

Assail base damage to body seems to be:
Maniac - 250
Flak - 188
Unyielding - 125
Infested - 188
Unarmored - 250
Carapace - 13

Assail weakspot:

Assail weakspot crit:

[olive ember]

I have all the achievements all I can say is that I maintained it for 5 min

[covert coyote]

gotta lvl to shit for it

[silent chasm]

If it is consecutive seconds, they ought to make it Way Fucking Clearer Than This Shit.

[naive imp]

The weakspot crit is what we’re interested in

[viscid matrix]

its fatshark, they never do 😄

[olive ember]

It could also be just bugged in general btw

[viscid matrix]

windows key + shift + S for sniping tool

[still hearth]

Base weakspot for Assail:
Unyielding - 238
Carapace - 58
Infested - 358
Unarmored - 475
Flak - 357
Maniac - 475

[wooden flare]

Is Fatshark an American team?

[olive ember]

I remember seeing someone mention the achievements being bugged since class rework

[olive ember]

Swedish iirc

[silent chasm]

no they're some kind of skaniweegian

[wooden flare]

Ah so prob translation errors then

[dawn wolf]

Find a team that won't immediately prioritize the enemy you're trying to head pop

[still hearth]

Yep

[noble zenith]

Mfw you need a mod to change your keybinds

Or have a scoreboard

[silent chasm]

yeah this kind of skandiweegian I think

[wooden flare]

Scandinavian

[noble zenith]

Or just see Which missions you're missing

[silent chasm]

skandiweegian

[wooden flare]

Which includes Norway, Sweden and Finland

[summer prairie]

BP calc has assail as Illissi Mk I Balanced Knife fyi

[wooden flare]

[naive imp]

Is this the 100 damage assail? Not empowered psionic?

[viscid matrix]

they gave a reason for why the scoreboard was removed between beta and launch

[olive ember]

Don’t need that mod if you’ve beaten every mission on Damnation

[still hearth]

This is base assail no nodes below it yeah

[silent chasm]

"it's cold, everybody's tall and pale and hates each other although they pretend not to. skandiweegian."

[still hearth]

Literally 0 damage upgrades.

Just the hands out

[noble zenith]

I needed because apparently I've done like, 30+ damnations without never finished a Disruption one xD

[still hearth]

They don't do 100 damage to anything lmao

[covert coyote]

man this spyker stuff is confusing

[still hearth]

But "base damage" doesn't mean much in this game tbh

Especially not on abilities

[noble zenith]

But again I play mostly heresy since I usually play with randoms or friends that are not really into maximizing the game

[olive ember]

Well they do

[viscid matrix]

thats similar to Warp Rupture that is supposed to do 100-200 damage on Venting Shriek

[olive ember]

Just that assail has a funny headshot multiplier

[still hearth]

It actually does

But

It seems like its affected

By the peril reduction of your shout

So as your peril goes down the damage goes down

[olive ember]

100-200 damage is complete trash

No one should like ever take that over the blazing spirit

[viscid matrix]

you get more damage from soulburn instead

[still hearth]

Yeah its so bad

It does soften up hordes if that's really what you want and not to kill them with soulblaze I guess

So you can give your allies toughness in melee

[frail pewter]

How much peril do you need to apply the full 6 stacks of soul blaze?

[still hearth]

80%+ iirc

[summer prairie]

80

[olive ember]

85-100 iirc

Or is it 80

[noble zenith]

And it doesn't even move the mostrosity health bar 🤡

[frail pewter]

6 stacks is enough to kill shooters on Damnation right?

At least it was before the patch

[olive ember]

According to pygex

[dawn wolf]

So you're saying Assail needs a damage buff against monstrosities

[still hearth]

It's based on peril now not warp charges

[noble zenith]

No, I was talking about the venting shriek damage option

[frail pewter]

I know

[still hearth]

Ahh

Yeah

6 stacks is enough

And to kill infested hordes

[olive ember]

Psyker boss damage is still its weakest thing

[frail pewter]

Neat!

[still hearth]

Bring a Vraks 3 with Scrier's and max stacked destiny

[olive ember]

But theoretically it should be gone because every other class can delete bosses but

[still hearth]

[olive ember]

In reality

[frail pewter]

Idk, fastened BB goes BRRRRR

[viscid matrix]

6 stacks does more than 300 damage, it will kill trash mobs

[olive ember]

That specific build lol

[dawn wolf]

Oh, I thought it was an escape option for overcooking they left in because it was easy to train yourself to rely on it

[still hearth]

It is pretty funny though

But no class deal well with bosses without picking specific weapons

[crude cape]

didn't used to be so bad with BB build + dmg boost on BB + a deimos poking or something.
I also used to do ok boss damage stacking burn with purg then swapping to brain bursting.

but ya...it feels MUCH worse now. Pyskers got insane power for general play, elites, specials and horde but in return our boss dmg got basically removed lol

[viscid matrix]

https://www.playdarktide.com/news/hotfix KEKW no fixes to any of the bugs

[dawn wolf]

What does a psyker need for good boss dmg? Void strike?

[noble zenith]

Yeah I tried to use the damaging VS but it's really bad xd

[snow dust]

They're features not bugs /joke

[olive ember]

Vraks 3

[frail pewter]

Am I crazy or that BB still does a lot of damage to bosses?

[still hearth]

Vraks 3 is probably the most boss damage you can get rn.

[olive ember]

Dueling sword is your next best option

[still hearth]

Aside from super specific stuff

Like thunder hammer

And

Ogryn rumblers apparently

[noble zenith]

Only reason to use Venting shriek outside warp build soulflammen is when you fuck up on peril control

[summer prairie]

That was probably a PC only hotfix, they can't do quick gameplay fixes due to crossplay

[jaunty schooner]

Bleed knife?!?!

[dawn wolf]

Yikes

[sullen bobcat]

Deployed to all platforms

[still hearth]

I'll bleed you

[noble zenith]

Which I still do even after hundreds of hours with psyker

[summer prairie]

Ah, bad guess then

[jaunty schooner]

[noble zenith]

Mostly when I click to switch to my melee and the lag says "uh I think you didn't"

[viscid matrix]

isnt it the Vrak VII that does the best damage?

[sullen bobcat]

Run a high peril gaze crit build

[olive ember]

Not particularly true

It is aoe stagger

[noble zenith]

Then I blow up :^)

[olive ember]

It’s how melee psykers close shooter packs pre patch

Just press F they get staggered and you slide up to em and hit em

[still hearth]

I think Vraks 3 does higher DPS but idk

[noble zenith]

Yes but... Unlimited powa for know untill they fix it

[olive ember]

I mean fun lugger in general deletes bosses

Fire stacking does that

[sullen bobcat]

Just don't fuck up

[still hearth]

#zealot-class message

[echo turtle]

If you take brain burst the boss damage is really good

[still hearth]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1x29RbMRM8ctmA/d1337s4PEe01?invite=cr-MSw5b0QsMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

[noble zenith]

Tell that to all the times I press "1" on my keyboard and the game doesn't care about it kek

[olive ember]

Honestly haven’t tested it since rework so maybe I’ll try it one of these days but this is the vraks 3 boss damage for comparison https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1x29RbMRM8ctmA/d1337s4PEe01?invite=cr-MSw5b0QsMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

[frail pewter]

So glad I'm not the only one

[still hearth]

The casual 1600 weakspot crits

[dawn wolf]

Glad this isn't just me lol

[still hearth]

[olive ember]

Oh fucking Vanessa beat me

[noble zenith]

I play with 70-100 ping usually and 150-200 when playing with my 'merican friends

[frail pewter]

I've seen it. But I hate gunpsykers so I'll pass

[olive ember]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-sounds-like-skill-issue-monke-dancing-gif-22439519

[frail pewter]

BB is still fine for bosses from what I can tell

[lyric burrow]

😳

[echo turtle]

What blessings holy shit

[still hearth]

I mean it's "fine"

[noble zenith]

Yes, skill issue of my ISP

[lyric burrow]

I just press Q to swap weapons

[olive ember]

It’s still decent just not amazing

[still hearth]

1.4k damage every 3 seconds isn't that great on bosses

[olive ember]

Simply get better connection

Become one with fatshark server’s basement

[frail pewter]

Yeah but I also have the Fastened Version

[steady edge]

voidstrike is the best boss damage I've found so far with psyker

[frail pewter]

Which helps a lot.

[noble zenith]

I swear it's easier for fatshark to go hire better server providers lol

[lyric burrow]

Void also stunlocks them which helps

[olive ember]

Voidstrike is alright boss damage dunno if it beats dueling sword, BB or vraks tbh

[noble zenith]

I mostly don't have much of an issue on other games but this one....

[summer prairie]

This looks wrong, but can't do proper repository searches right now to be sure

[dawn wolf]

Still doesn't register sometimes for me. Seemingly, always when I find myself in a crowd of pox walkers

[steady edge]

it'll stunlock a plague ogryn but not the chaos spawn

[noble zenith]

This one is a special of it kind

[steady edge]

or beast or nurgle

[lyric burrow]

Def doesnt beat out Vraks

[echo turtle]

Deadly accurate + headhunter?

[viscid matrix]

scroll up for a video with a Vrak

[lyric burrow]

Correct iirc

Scriers too

[echo turtle]

Yeah seems like getting a crit will proc the blessing 3 times

[dawn wolf]

Looks like I have to choose between staff utility or boss damage 😕

[lyric burrow]

Finesse damage on it is nutty

[echo turtle]

Meaning that combo with scriers puts you at near 100% crit

[still hearth]

Yes

[steady edge]

yep....that's way better than the void staff lol

[still hearth]

Getting guaranteed crits is also funny because guns roll crits in bursts

[echo turtle]

Yeah, It's bonkers

Hopefully they fix warp charges soon so we can have better sciers uptime

[still hearth]

It's pretty sad that so many things are bugged out of their mind rn

But it is what it is

[echo turtle]

Well the game just launched

Give it some time 😉

[still hearth]

[noble zenith]

For fatshark standards ofc

[echo turtle]

Only just left the beta

[noble zenith]

I swear it was last month

[steady edge]

no fancy helmets for anyone unless they were in the "alpha" tho

[echo turtle]

It's been a week

[noble zenith]

Damn

Time flies by

[still hearth]

Disrupt Destiny seems pretty consistent to me though

First time I tried it now and it pops all the time

[olive ember]

Idk it just feels weird with the anti team synergy

Especially since teammates can’t see em

[orchid nest]

chainsword with bloodletter especially is good for psyker boss damage now too. best melee option at least.

[noble zenith]

I'm yet to fall in love with gun psyker, but I haven't looked up on any decent builds or tried one for more than 1 match anyway

[summer prairie]

with better marking prioritization it's going to be fine, though 15s stacks is still iffy

[viscid matrix]

30s is best cause its easier to maintain max stacks

[olive ember]

Eh idk if it beats dueling sword

[noble zenith]

I already have the least time played as veteran because untill this new update, if you didn't gun, you didn't wun

Kek

[orchid nest]

it definitely beats DS in boss damage, it's not even close. but DS is more useable in general

[noble zenith]

Sometimes I feel gun is a bit overrated in his game and that's my skill issue to fix
Shotgun my beloved

[near wyvern]

Devils claw is surprisingly good boss damage if you can get your parries right

[orchid nest]

yeah it is

[olive ember]

@still hearth if bleed is stronk now why no lacerate bleed knife

[steady lion]

What is the cursed bleed knife tech?

[dawn wolf]

Tell me about the bleed knife. Who does he work for?

[near wyvern]

I guess that could work with gaze but in general gaze melee builds just don't seem to be worth it

You get so much toughness regen for warp stuff so before we get a proper warp melee psyker melee will serve a secondary role

[olive ember]

Oh no I was just asking about bleed knife in general kekw

Cuz funny bleed

[orchid nest]

so is it just impossible to blow yourself up with smite? I guess I never noticed but I'm trying to blow up in the psykhanium and it auto quells you down from 100 without even quelling

[steady lion]

Scyers seems so weird, why would I ever use it when I can play gun vet instead?

[olive ember]

I might try a Scriers warp flurry transfer peril

Eh it’s supposed to be a psyker option for guns which

Some people like guns on psyker with psykers tool kit

[proven copper]

could anyone send me an SS of the most op build

please

[olive ember]

Most op build?

[proven copper]

over powers

[steady lion]

Probably assail lol

[proven copper]

powers

[olive ember]

All the op builds are probably getting nerfed

[proven copper]

frick

powered

[steady lion]

Or infinite smite but probably getting patched

[proven copper]

alright

[proven copper]

👍

[olive ember]

Honestly how good are the builds I’m the build thread

Someone in Zealot chats said those builds were trash but eh

[proven copper]

thread ain’t showing up for me

[olive ember]

Time to go take a look

#1158835513789272126 message

[proven copper]

thankyou

[lethal folio]

DS IV monster dps is about the same as bloodletter chainsword, around 1300. but chainsword isn't as intensive.

on a high crit build DS wins.

[woeful patio]

I tried Scrier with a heavy lazpistol and I couldn’t even tell I had a damage increase

Maybe I’m just doing it wrong

Is there any meaningful damage thresholds scrier helps reach?

[olive ember]

Scrier only rly is important for specific guns iirc

[woeful patio]

Damn

[olive ember]

Like the vraks 3

[woeful patio]

😔

[steady lion]

Im really enjoying bb + dome shield and flamer staff, elites ranged and unarmoured covered not too bad

[woeful patio]

But I bought the LAZ Pistol skin

[steady lion]

Probably not top tier but it works

[olive ember]

You could also try Scriers with transfer peril voidstrike but

Myeh

[woeful patio]

True

[lethal folio]

Scrier's doesn't give the stacking damage bonus buff until it ends.

[woeful patio]

Oh

[olive ember]

Las pistol is a good like A or B tier gun rn right

[narrow crane]

Scriers with staves is not worth your time tbh

[lethal folio]

It also has a hidden 10% weakspot buff attached.

[woeful patio]

Heavy Variant is what I’m using

[olive ember]

Does it not? I always thought it started giving bonuses whenever you activate it

[lethal folio]

You get 20% crit, 10% damage, 10% weakspot.

then 1-30% damage comes afterwards.

the bonus feat for 1-30% extra finesse does work though.

[olive ember]

🤔

@near wyvern is that in guide? Prob a good thing to clarify

Or maybe I just can’t read

Could be that too kek

[orchid nest]

This is a lot different than realistic scenario though. DS damage falls off in non psykhanium scenario. not facing you, beast of nurgle, missing headshots. it can be pretty safe to latch on bloodletter chainsword specials into limbs and all that too to upkeep "real" dps without putting yourself at risk

[woeful patio]

Scrier with Surge might be good?

[analog solstice]

Tried out smite a little bit, seems it is more or less not viable in auric maelstrom 🤔

[obsidian sage]

has the smite build been nerfed?

[woeful patio]

Smite is amazing

[lethal folio]

Scrier purgatus ramps up fast, and othewise lclick spam with a surge/nexus staff is usable.

[woeful patio]

I love it

[olive ember]

Are you abusing the bug?

[analog solstice]

i dont know of any bugs with it

[olive ember]

Without the bug smite is probably? The weakest of the bunch

[woeful patio]

Unlimited Power “bug”

Gods I hope it’s a feature

[olive ember]

With empowered pscionics you can cast smite infinitely because there’s no peril cost

No shot it’s supposed to be a feature

[analog solstice]

🤔

[olive ember]

The entire point of 100% peril cost reduction is supposed to be for single use abilities like BB or assail

[orchid nest]

I'm not sure what you are doing in auric maelstrom to think smite isn't viable but I duo them for fun even without EP and it's very viable

[near wyvern]

Flat Weakspot damage bonus is not listed, was not aware of that

[olive ember]

No way they intend for you to cast a perma stun CC infinitely

[lethal folio]

Problem with smite is it only really works if you do a long channel from 0% peril.

otherwise your cc time is too short.

[olive ember]

Idk I feel like smite builds up peril too quickly

Granted I haven’t used it much cuz of the bug

Maybe good with a shriek build and warp charges tho

Get that peril resist goin

Have shriek to apply fire stacks and then CC em

[orchid nest]

it does build up peril too quickly for sure. you need the quell talent. although I'm not sure if this is a post hotfix thing because I never tried to blow myself up with it intentionally before but it's not even possible apparently. at least in the psykhanium

[lethal folio]

It is really annoying they named it smite, because internally smite is what brainburst is called.

[olive ember]

Smite stop casting automatically when you hit 100

[orchid nest]

yeah and it quells a little

[lethal folio]

and 'smite' is the generic name for psyker does a direct damage spell effect.

[narrow crane]

same thing with "Surge" being a staff and a staff blessing

real smooth brain shit

[olive ember]

Peril in code is called warp charge too at some point iirc

[summer prairie]

The regular shield has 15hp, the dome 25 and all projectiles do 1 damage

[olive ember]

The naming convention is just 10/10

[olive ember]

Imo double it and I would be happy

[near wyvern]

You cannot enter POW from smite

[olive ember]

15 shots is nothing when more than like a single gunner exists

[near wyvern]

It will do a quick quell always upon reaching 100

[orchid nest]

been pretty paranoid about it happening so it's funny for me to learn it's not even a thing

[woeful patio]

I agree

[near wyvern]

Including if you have the (bugged) empower on, wasting a charge

[orchid nest]

based off of these numbers does this put a specialist being staggered at 5 hp?

[naive imp]

bio-lodestone or overpowering souls?

[near wyvern]

So if you do a free cast at 100 peril it will instantly cancel the channel and quell, eating an empower stack

[woeful patio]

Dome needs to dissipate instantly after health hits 0

I’ve been sitting in what I assume is safety and gaining 35lbs worth of lead

[summer prairie]

8 I guess

[orchid nest]

hmmm

[near wyvern]

Usually overpowering souls so you can chain multiple fast BR or free Assails

[naive imp]

that's what i figured. 2 sources of empowered

[summer prairie]

This buffs the wall to 30?

[woeful patio]

😳

[near wyvern]

Stun shield is superior, change my mind

[orchid nest]

it seems like it is supposed to only stop 2 mutants I guess based off those numbers and testing but it's pretty buggy and will often stagger more even when the wall is visually gone

[near wyvern]

@summer prairie kinetic presence is not working for specials, did they forget to add it on code or is the description just wrong?

[echo turtle]

The toughness Regen is nice and you often get attacked from multiple angles

[still hearth]

Alright I tried Scrier + Destiny and the fact that Destiny only marks certain enemies is really annoying sometimes

[echo turtle]

Just being able to create a fire and net safe zone in a circle is amazing

[near wyvern]

Excuses for bad positioning

[olive ember]

Does stun shield get instant refund on using warp charges

[still hearth]

Yes

But not if you take 2x

[echo turtle]

I mean you can position all you want but enemies spawn in all around you

[olive ember]

Wait what

Then why the fuck

Oh

[still hearth]

Yeah having 2 charges fucks with the CDR

Who'd have thought

[near wyvern]

Just find a corner

[still hearth]

[keen harbor]

erm, did the game delete all my loadouts?

[orchid nest]

I take walls if I have 2 points and dome if I am going to spend 1 because the 1 point is more impactful in that scenario

[olive ember]

New patch broke shit

[near wyvern]

Yes, again

[olive ember]

As per usual

[echo turtle]

Not always an option, but if you can sweet

[still hearth]

I think it actually gets no CDR at all from warp charges if you have 2x shield

But I haven't tested it properly

[keen harbor]

oh cool, now I have to remember what I had

[echo turtle]

The Regen aura also very nice

[olive ember]

You mean you don’t have your builds memorized?

[near wyvern]

Figured

[olive ember]

SMH complacency breeds failure

[still hearth]

I just rebuild every time because it annoyed me that it swaps weapons and curios too

[mellow gorge]

Heresy grows from idleness

[near wyvern]

Classic quality

[olive ember]

This is why you always memorize your builds

[still hearth]

I'm surprised it doesn't reduce your damage to 0.1

[olive ember]

Btw have we come to a conclusion over what breakpoints the extra 10% damage aura gives

Or should I just use CDR

[wooden flare]

That’s looks like it’s typed in NotePad

[near wyvern]

I was streaming for a friend on day 2 and adjusting my build, my friend said that the speed I was doing it told him I have done this too many times 😅

[unborn lark]

Does Assails scale off your level or gear?

[still hearth]

I think CDR is bugged right now and gives 17.5% instead of 10%

[summer prairie]

You should check if you still get the base cdr aura when choosing a different one as currently you get both the basic and improved cdr if you choose that

[still hearth]

Doesn't scale off anything but in-game buffs

[acoustic spade]

Hmm, any dataminers/dataminer-adjacent people in chat? Does Revive Speed (Ally) also increase Helping Trapper victims get out-speed?

[near wyvern]

Aight, will add to my test notes

[still hearth]

Though some bugs carry over blessings to it

[unborn lark]

So damage is the same in all difficulties

[still hearth]

Yeah

[wooden flare]

I think they’re counted as two different things

Because when reviving an ally is corrupts one wound

[olive ember]

It’s why assail is so op on lower difficulties

[wooden flare]

Whereas freeing an ally isn’t

[olive ember]

It’s still overtuned a bit on like auric Damnation but

[echo turtle]

It's OP on damnation too

[olive ember]

Damnation might as well be sedition tho

Only like hi int+ count

[acoustic spade]

but most Talents that increase revive speed also increase rescuing speed

[olive ember]

[still hearth]

Isn't there only one

[olive ember]

But yeah assail is overtuned in general but on lower difficulties the thing just shreds

[wooden flare]

Idk then

[acoustic spade]

I remember seeing one on Ogryn tree but I am not sure, but I am sure Veteran tree has one

[still hearth]

Yeah Vet does have one. Idk about Ogryn but I rarely play them

[acoustic spade]

yeah, same, Ogryn is the only one that I have under 30 left

[still hearth]

At least shout Ogryn is fun

Gunlugger is

Kinda broken rn

[olive ember]

Shout ogryn feels kinda useless tbh

I wish the taunt made the snipers and gunners stop shooting

[still hearth]

The best part is that it staggers stuff

[olive ember]

It’s not useless but

Idk

[near wyvern]

Just a heads up. Damage calculation works so that you have:

base_damage * armour_mod * rending_overflow * power * armour_perk * (any + other + buff)

And rending modifies armour_mod first to 1 and then overflow is capped at 1.25x damage multiplier.

This seems to be the case for all damage in the game.

[olive ember]

I already stagger everything with funny shield

[keen harbor]

Yeah, IMO, you don't need the shout. You just need the perk below it where blocking provokes

[olive ember]

The shout should provide like stupid over toughness to just yourself

[still hearth]

So you can only get at most +25% damage from rending over 100%?

[olive ember]

Like give me like 200 over roughness

[still hearth]

You already have so much tankiness as Ogryn

It wouldn't really help

Give more damage

Or

Give a reverse shout

[olive ember]

Idk or make the shout make you CC immune

[still hearth]

Where enemies run away

[olive ember]

Against like dogs and mutants or some shit

Like gromril armor or wte it’s called

[still hearth]

8s of fear to anything below Ogryn

Or 15s whatever taunt is

Taunt should force all enemies into melee

Not just most enemies most of the time

[orchid nest]

Just make it an ability where you can pick up someone to ride on the ogryns shoulders and then you can assail from the top of a gun lugger

[olive ember]

Idk I feel like fear would just tilt me

Having wte target try to run away is just

Annoying

[still hearth]

Kind of like smite tilts me

[near wyvern]

Yes. But if you initially deal like 10% and have uncanny strike 4 giving you 120% rending, you are doing many many times the original damage.

Basically if you stack rending with vs armour type perk and power you get a shit ton of bonus damage.

[olive ember]

Atleast it locks em in place

Imagine if the mutant starts running away from you

[still hearth]

[still hearth]

For 15s I'd take that

Then you can herd all enemies into a single line

[near wyvern]

I just want to be lugged by an ogryn

[echo turtle]

It makes the dueling sword into a monster vs carapace after a couple hits

[unborn lark]

Wish they had a section to post builds. What’s everyone’s favorite psyker build for auric content and maelstrom? Been level 30 for a while and just not feeling strong enough

[near wyvern]

Try Uncanny Executor Deimos

You can also get to 4 stacks for both with one special

[olive ember]

I’m just waiting for the sniper rifle for vet that one shots crushers n nothing else

[echo turtle]

Does executor still only proc on elite kills?

Seems like the buff would be seldom up

[orchid nest]

the meta will be a stack starting with a shield ogryn, a gun lugger ontop of him, another gun lugger ontop of him, and then an assail psyker at the very top

[near wyvern]

No its power on Weakspot hits now

[echo turtle]

OH

[near wyvern]

And it's only dropped if you hit a body, not when you miss

[echo turtle]

It doesn't disappear like shred eh?

[near wyvern]

And a timer ofc

[echo turtle]

Ah

[olive ember]

But I always hit body

[near wyvern]

Shred is bugged on Deimos special, only gives one stack

[echo turtle]

Was considering uncanny and exorcist for a scriers buuld

[near wyvern]

Uncanny Executor Deimos can kill a crusher with L1H2L1H2, and that's without a carapace perk.

And the H2 staggers

[echo turtle]

Does uncanny affect the special attack yet? Or just the non charged

Ah the old stab chain

Sounds pretty fun, I have been enjoying the dueling sword but Ive been craving some variety

[near wyvern]

It affects all damage now. Anything above 100% base damage gets converted into a damage multiplier. They said it's 4% rending for 1% damage but I haven't tested this yet. I have tested that the bonus caps at 1.25x damage

[tough obsidian]

messed around with my pistol

its this fine?

[echo turtle]

Ok, before it did nothing for the special so anything is a bonus at this point

[echo turtle]

It doesn't hold a candle to the mk3 with crit bonus tbh

You can do like, 10k+ DPS with it

[untold vault]

Works fine but I would have gone with dumdum instead of reassuring accurate

[near wyvern]

And because it's multiplicative with power and vs armour type perks you can get ridiculous stacking with rending now

#psyker-class message

[echo turtle]

What blessings would you go for on a sword like that?

Weak spot or like, elite damage, crit?

[echo turtle]

Oh snap

[near wyvern]

You mean perks?

[echo turtle]

Yeah

That is what I mean

[acoustic spade]

Why am I only finding Unstable Power 1 and never II III or IV

[untold vault]

Uncanny strike + Slaughterer/Deflector blessings
Carapace + Maniac/Flak perks

[naive imp]

yea the crit perk is absurd

lol

[untold vault]

Depends on ur preference

[naive imp]

holy hell

[near wyvern]

For Deimos I recommend +maniac +unyielding. Can dispatch mutants better and gives you a very high DPS against monstrosities if you have them on you. Uncanny is enough for armoured targets.

[untold vault]

Mutants wont get oneshot unless you headshot em with the special on deimos

[near wyvern]

You shouldn't special mutants

[fluid knot]

They literally die to H2

One poke

[near wyvern]

L1H2 is safer and better damage

And yeah if you have enough buffs H2 on head is a one shot

[naive imp]

do you guys think empowered psionics or true aim if you can only have 1 or the other?

[echo turtle]

One poke? Daaaamn

[fluid knot]

Yeah Deimos is very good

[echo turtle]

Running warp charges with that sword then to push up damage?

[near wyvern]

Depends on build

[acoustic spade]

maybe I'll find a good deimos base one day

[fluid knot]

It seems to live constantly in Illisi's shadow, but its only slightly worse at horde clear, but much better vs a lot of specials, the downside is you have to actually aim a lot of the strikes

[woeful patio]

I would unironically love to be picked up and held like a hamburger by an Ogryn and just be able to smite with impunity as I’m out of reach of chaff

[acoustic spade]

Best modifiers I've seen is total 341 with low dmg

[untold vault]

I wouldnt say slightly worse at horde clear

[echo turtle]

I'm either meme'ing with gaze or running shield to win games

Usually taking brain burst BC assail is wildly op

[still hearth]

Weak

Just abuse the OP

[untold vault]

The illisi can also oneshot certain elites/specials during the horde cleave with the special

[echo turtle]

Also trying to max cool downs to keep the shield up always

[acoustic spade]

Wait, why did the Hotfix remove my loadouts? :<

[echo turtle]

It's a feature

[fluid knot]

Happened to a lot of us

[untold vault]

I'll never switch off the illisi/deimos though

Even if people say the duelling sword is good

[fluid knot]

Hey man, i still like Knoife Psyker

[untold vault]

I cant get enough of the infinite dodge

[near wyvern]

If you want a stable one shot on mutants warp siphon with battery totally helps but it's not mandatory, if you have some +Power or uncanny going on you can also reach one shot threshold.

If you really want it to be a specialized mutant killer you want +maniac +special perks, where +maniac 25 is more important since it stacks multiplicatively with everything

[echo turtle]

Nice, dueling sword just feels like a better knife rn, but a shred knife with all the crit stuff could be hilarious

[untold vault]

It makes fighting monstrocities so much easier

[echo turtle]

Muties are one of the biggest hazards, ragers being a close second

[fluid knot]

Knife, sadly, does not roll Shred, however.. Bleeds stack with other DoT sources, though only one animation will play. I dont like running Purgatus much, but if i am running it, i'll also run Lacerate knoife

[echo turtle]

I feel like nothing is more threatening than muties and ragers except for a pack of 6 crushers

[subtle monolith]

what bugs should I know about that can be abused

[untold vault]

the most threatening are bombers

[woeful patio]

Infinite Smite

[echo turtle]

Yeah, I used to run bleed and mercy kill

I thought knife could get shred

[woeful patio]

Infinite Shield

Uuuuuh

🤷‍♂️

[untold vault]

They fuck up the positioning of your entire team

And do not have to have LoS to throw their nades

[fluid knot]

Muties in a vacuum arent all that dangerous, its thier tendancy to run into fire or into a pack of other stuff which can still hit you whilst grabbed, so its a harsh fucking punish :/

[echo turtle]

Yeah, which is why I like being able to kill them asap

They can make a run turn sideways

[untold vault]

Put a wall down

[fluid knot]

Bombers could be olympic shot-putters with those throwing arms

[still hearth]

In theory most specialists can make a run go sideways if you can't deal with them

[untold vault]

It makes maelstrom mutie packs a breeze

[echo turtle]

I like the smooth brain sphere wall

[untold vault]

They'll just keep running into the shield face first

[subtle monolith]

I remember something about void staff spaming right click

[azure oar]

https://tenor.com/view/kayak-the-pet-collective-frog-jump-leap-gif-17888222

[subtle monolith]

is that still a thing?

[harsh urchin]

yeah but if you're running wall you're not running da thunderdome

[brittle kindle]

i come from zealot chat as i have been changed to the ways of being a silly little witch

[harsh urchin]

smh

[fluid knot]

Oh situationally for sure, but there is deffo a heirarchy

[untold vault]

I think the thunderdome isnt really needed

[still hearth]

Disablers > the rest, sure.

[acoustic spade]

its fun yes

[remote raptor]

should i change unarmored to flak for any breakpoints

[fluid knot]

Yesnt, Flamers i rate up there with being one of the most dangerous

[still hearth]

Ah yeah

[untold vault]

I also feel like the wall has more than 10% to block chance non specials

[fluid knot]

Particularly if you're in a tight spot an there is a few of em