psyker-class

[left patio]

Yes

[wooden flare]

[potent moss]

perk help please?

[hollow elbow]

just confirming, this makes you take more damage not do it right?

[narrow crane]

maniacs, then whatever else you want

flak is good

[raw token]

no lol what would be the point in that it makes you do 20% more

[dense tapir]

Reality anchor doesn't work ?

[hollow elbow]

random debuff in the perk tree on the path to buffs doesnt sound too crazy, but im glad to hear

[raw token]

oh i just read what it actually says, thats dumb

[autumn smelt]

man
the number 1 thing that ends up getting me killed is when a specialist whos about to ruin my day is within my crosshairs and then they just make the most random and nonsensical movement, making any gunshot/projectile not hit them, and my window of opportunity to hit them closes, resulting in my shit getting fucked

[hollow elbow]

time to visit the psykanium i guess

[raw token]

no it definitely makes you deal more damage, its a typo

[weak sapphire]

Hi yes. Im doing auric damnation and auric maelstrom with it

Just keep the group tight

[autumn smelt]

like a dog who is headed straight for me, but instead of pouncing when they reach close enough, they instead move horizontally to the left just a little and THEN pounce, making my voidstrike projectile miss completely and they pounce anyway

[weak sapphire]

But its also superbugged soo..

[hollow elbow]

just tested, true! good perk

[potent moss]

I tried smite intentionally without the bug and it was....okay on auric for me.

[hollow elbow]

whats the bug?

[weak sapphire]

Infinite power!!!111

😄

[hollow elbow]

share ive gotta abuse this

love smite

[weak sapphire]

Keystone that fucks it up so after you kill an elite you get infinite smite if you dont let go of the button

So I kept sidestrafing the whole mission with mouse 1 and 2 pressed down

And you keep the whole map stunlocked :<

[ornate hamlet]

I just had fun for the first time in forever with this game

using the heavy sword

[hollow elbow]

gonna work towards them now, ty

[left patio]

I noticed it doesnt like to stun at all sometimes or the stun is incredibly delayed

[weak sapphire]

Hmm wierd, I have not experienced that. Is it on auric maelstrom on nurgle blessed enemies?

Cause those are immune

[left patio]

I havent a clue, im only trust 11 💀

[weak sapphire]

Do you use left click or charge up with right click?

[left patio]

Mostly left click, i dont do charge ups very often

[weak sapphire]

Cause left click is more like a singletarget more..dps (ish) thingy

Try using only charge up then 🙂

[left patio]

Ill try that.

[weak sapphire]

It affects more targets too which is nice. But in return you wont kill much. Well small ones if you have upgraded it.

[weak sapphire]

Also welcome to Darktide! Hope you enjoy it 😄

[left patio]

I have been enjoying it. The more skills i unlock the more fun it is

[wooden flare]

Psyker mains when their power literally blows up in their face

[left patio]

Thats what i like about smite too, i havent blown myself up yet and can be pretty reckless with smite

[weak sapphire]

Nice.

[wooden flare]

Real men use the self explosion as their main source of damage

I’ll kill myself to kill you that’s how little your life truly matters

[left patio]

Boss fight levels you leave right after beating the boss anyways

[slate sun]

and if you buy the Krieg uniform blowing up is mandatory

[wooden flare]

I’ll show you what Attack of The Dead Men really means

[potent moss]

The rare +wound only psyker

[left patio]

iykyk

[rocky osprey]

I'm assuming Surge only applies to the primary fire? didn't seem to notice any doubles on the charge fire

[potent moss]

It applies to charge fire and is considered the best blessing

[rocky osprey]

o:

Well then.

[potent moss]

Slap a warp nexus on it and you're golden

[full musk]

it's on crit, so more crit helps

[rocky osprey]

ahh I see

no transfer peril? dang

[potent moss]

It's already very peril efficient

[rocky osprey]

gotcha ty

[full musk]

you can do a transfer peril vs but if you go surge it's best to go all in on crit

[potent moss]

transfer peril is better at horde, surge is better at elite killing

[cinder moon]

you can just spec battle meditation if you're worried about peril

[potent moss]

transfer peril is for when you can't get a voidstrike staff with surge 🙃 couldn't be me....

[scarlet stone]

assail kinda makes weapons useless lol

[acoustic spade]

ok, 3x Max Stamina Curios on my psyker, now I just need some Sprint efficiency somewhere

[untold vault]

But why

[potent moss]

I'm assuming some disrupt destiny sonic shit

[acoustic spade]

for stupid amounts of stamina

[wooden flare]

I hate seeing Assail

Ruins the mission for me imo

[untold vault]

Revolver - Assail is my favorite build for psyker rn.

[wooden flare]

I am a Brain Burst enjoyer

For now

[acoustic spade]

I dont like using Assail, but my friend is 150% certain Smite is busted and is gonna get nerfed and hates when I use it

[scarlet stone]

yeah, if you run with bb and get an assail using team mate then youre never going to bb anyone lol

[wooden flare]

Then once I get the challenges done I’m running Smite with bubble

[scarlet stone]

and its crazy good with hound waves

[wooden flare]

Be the ultimate team support

Because I’m going to be honest

[scarlet stone]

one fragment = 5 dogs lol

[wooden flare]

I hate sitting in the back charging up on heads

[acoustic spade]

Smite is great against Hound waves as well

[scarlet stone]

smite seems fun

[wooden flare]

sitting in the back like a coward is the Vet’s job

[untold vault]

Assail deletes dogs + take the barrier for some chance to stun the dogs running into it

[scarlet stone]

and its hella good for control

[opal pebble]

What’re warp charges good for right now? I used to use em for ascendant blaze but dunno what they do now

[untold vault]

The exact same thing

[rocky osprey]

sure, assail is great once it's done drawing circles for 3 business days

[acoustic spade]

thats been my experience as well

[wooden flare]

Wait is warp charges not where you have 100% and will explode?

[opal pebble]

No

[glass plume]

Just trying to work out if Surge is really worth it. What's the highest crit chance you can get?

5% crit node

4% prescience

5% perk

20% nexus (peril dependent)

20% Scriers gaze (if you spec it, and cooldown dependent

Am I missing anything?

[scarlet stone]

no thats peril

[untold vault]

Revolver assail owns

[obtuse moth]

guaranteed crit every 5 headshots weakspot hits

[full egret]

disrupt destiny is really hard to keep going

[frigid sparrow]

Assail seems kinda overrated to me, despite how amazing it is

[untold vault]

The trick is to aim the assail

[glass plume]

ty

[untold vault]

It actually does go where you point

[frigid sparrow]

Cool horde killing machine

[full egret]

it would be nice if two targets were marked so if one fucks off you arent screwed

[untold vault]

It's pretty bad at horde

that was mostly my illisi

[spice veldt]

Assail is average at horde

[acoustic spade]

I ran out of diamantine so I cant upgrade my profane revolver

[untold vault]

You use it for shooter packs

[spice veldt]

it kills 80 poxwalkers in 30 seconds which is ok

[potent moss]

how does one run out of diamantine over plasteel o.o

[frigid sparrow]

Not playing enough

[potent moss]

oops

[obtuse moth]

even without those and discounting scriers gaze, that makes surge a 34% power buff

[scarlet stone]

diamantine is more rare, it makes sense

[potent moss]

It doesn't feel more rare on damnation

[untold vault]

Thats the stuff gathered during the mission

Not my actual stash

[frigid sparrow]

You play enough trying to farm mats and you'll start to get imbalanced. You can't upgrade fast enough.

[obtuse moth]

its not rare at all on higher difficulties, you get way too much

[cinder moon]

play for any length of time while upgrading weapons and you'll always have more diamantine than plasteel

[potent moss]

I am currently 6k diamantine, 5k plasteel

[frigid sparrow]

I really hate that plasteel got fucked over with the patch. It felt SO GOOD before the patch

[glass plume]

So that's 14% regular crit, up to 54% if your peril and cooldowns line up, and one guaranteed crit every 5 weakspot with true aim (which you can miss a proc and waste it). For having to go all-in on crit, I'm not sure if Surge is really worth it!

[acoustic spade]

Upgrading curios on multiple characters

[cinder moon]

you mean the refund bug?

[fallow loom]

what should i look for in my curios?

[scarlet stone]

lol

[untold vault]

They need to like double plasteel gains for it to feel good

[potent moss]

there's too many tiny plasteel nodes

[untold vault]

You use so much plasteel

[cinder moon]

simply being able to pay for blessings with diamantine would make plasteel economy skyrocket

[potent moss]

just add back and forth conversion that isn't efficient, bam solved

[obtuse moth]

crit also increases damage and cuts through armor

[untold vault]

If we just got VT2 crafting this would have never happened

[scarlet stone]

is there a crit noise?

for ranged

[untold vault]

No, dont think so, only an orange ish hit marker

[scarlet stone]

I see

[potent moss]

VT2 crafting is acquire red, reroll until you RNG your perfect godroll, never look at weapons again

[cinder moon]

the life of a blessing hunter

[spice veldt]

for guns, crits have a more noticeable muzzle flash

a muzzle flash that consequently blinds you

[scarlet stone]

nice dredd pic

[fresh reef]

There is, depending on the weapon

[untold vault]

Sounds good, rn you have to rng brunt and then rng hadron

[mellow gorge]

what do pyskers run as curios these days, stuck with 3x health bc the shop wont sell me any

[scarlet stone]

lol really? I havent actually noticed that

[untold vault]

at least in vt2 you could just roll red and ignore brunt

[sick fox]

+xp, +ordo 🙂

[fresh reef]

For staves, not really (though I think the sound plays for most staff M1s)

[potent moss]

I'd be okay with Darktide "crafting" if there wasn't RNG on weapon stats

[fresh reef]

For guns it sounds more "whooshy"

[cinder moon]

i run all stamina curios on psyker builds with dueling sword

[scarlet stone]

I go for + stam + toughness + wound

[untold vault]

I run health with ordo dockets + toughness + toughness regen

[fresh reef]

Why

[cinder moon]

can't get hit

fast as fukk boiii

[potent moss]

are you just... running?

[fresh reef]

Yeah but what the fuck are you blocking that you need an additional 9 stam?

[scarlet stone]

stamina is just for running and pushing right?

[unique mist]

and blocking

[scarlet stone]

true

[cinder moon]

force push on laspistol consumes stam as well

[mellow gorge]

running from the problem of having no health

[molten prawn]

Ive been using scriers with MK4 and its really not that is, the move speed feels good but the bonus is kinda meh

not that good*

[harsh urchin]

i mean yeah it wouldnt make sense lol

scrier's you want to get a lot of kills

dueling sword is more of a single target weapon

[cinder moon]

also have you been playing QP damnation recently? literal newbs and actively leveling people making me have to clutch super hard

my last like 10 matches have had somebody go down constantly from poxwalkers

[fresh reef]

Yes, and it's hell, but I'm not running +9 stamina lol

[potent moss]

Gotta run away from your shit teammates

[obtuse moth]

honestly even with just the 1/5 headshots surge is worth, and becomes a 25%+ damage modifier. it should proc a lot more often than that if you're cleaving heads i think

[cinder moon]

i don't need the toughness or health; if i do, the run was dead anyway

[fresh reef]

Don't go into to auric if you're struggling with carrying the new players on Standard, btw

[dense tapir]

What would be a good scrier build ?

[cinder moon]

i can carry with certain builds but if i'm just playing regular damnation i'm not trying to tryhard

[obtuse moth]

i struggle to carry the level 24s who show up on auric maelstrom

[cinder moon]

i just want plasteel

[sick fox]

even just on heresy auric?

[dense tapir]

I've been experimenting with shredder pistol and BB, but i don't find a good melee option

[jaunty moth]

what should i roll?

[fresh reef]

I used to follow this train of thought, but since switching to +health it's really nice being able to tank just a little bit more

[harsh urchin]

I haven't fully figured it out yet either, but i got decent results with a BM caxe

[fresh reef]

+Maniac and +Flak or Infested

[sick fox]

on that note, what would be the best carry class rn? or is it just skill issue

[dense tapir]

I tried same thing with rashad, not amazing either lol

[fresh reef]

Ogryn is the best to carry with imo, considering they can effectively solo bosses, hordes, and protect their team with largely the same build

Any class can carry though

[obtuse moth]

skill more than anything else, i see people carrying on all classes. ogryn is really strong tho with ranged damage, boss damage and ressing potential

[sick fox]

Oh shit.. i know its the psyker chat, but what build is that for ogryn?

[harsh urchin]

try with a chsword

[jaunty moth]

so you would leave the bessings as is?

[fresh reef]

Ogryn is the best but it's like by a 10% margin

[obtuse moth]

even with like vet res or assail spam etc you can't completely carry dead weight unless you're comfortable solo-ing, ie skill

[fresh reef]

Blessings are BiS, save for Uncanny only being tier 3

[dense tapir]

Oh my god i forgot psyker had CHswords !!

[opal pebble]

What’s the best force sword for mini bosses?

[dense tapir]

Thanks for the tip !

[fresh reef]

But the perks are both bad, so it'd be better to reroll the perks

[jaunty moth]

ok thats what i was thinking too but just wanted to ask before i bricked it lol

[jaunty moth]

thanks

[glass plume]

Thank you for the perspective

[fresh reef]

Generally you just want to have +Maniac on everything, as a rule of thumb

[feral verge]

@ember hornet SALTZPYRE KNIFE ZEALOT SPOTTED SALTZPYRE KNIFE ZEALOT SPOTTED SALTZPYRE KNIFE ZEALOT SPOTTED

[full egret]

they really need to fix disrupt destiny

[spice veldt]

get out of here zealot main

[reef island]

based

[feral verge]

YEAH IT BE ACTING FUCKY

[feral verge]

nah

most saltzpyre named players play AWFULLY

lazor and i agree

[fresh reef]

True

[reef island]

dont care Saltzpyre cool

[fresh reef]

Also Psyker players named Zapard

[potent moss]

Is that a real lore name lmao

[jaunty moth]

k

[potent moss]

The zapper

[full egret]

ive seen it actually pop on a pox walker for once!

but most of the time its on a shooter not even in the current combat

[azure karma]

Can you get warp flurry on trauma staff

[teal needle]

Yeah

[azure karma]

Is it good?

[fresh reef]

Dude no idk what it is

[azure karma]

What's bis blessings for trauma basically

[cobalt mauve]

do just my curios matter for stats? or do weapons matter for assail even tho they arent equipped

[fresh reef]

I've seen five psykers named Zapard, all of them need to be in Sedition

[teal needle]

I like it yeah. I used to swear by flurry blazing but don't know as much about blazing these days

[fresh reef]

Warp Nexus/Blazing Spirit or Warp Flurry/Rending Shockwave

[cobalt mauve]

[azure karma]

Flurry isn't bis?

[fresh reef]

Mb, Flurry is BiS for Rending specifically

[teal needle]

I was about to say, most people run flurry w rending

[azure karma]

What does the brittleness do?

[slate sun]

blazing trauma is still pretty good, but there are better toys

[teal needle]

Helps your teammates damage carapace

[fresh reef]

It's basically the same as Rending, except you don't benefit from it

[slate sun]

curios don't affect assail

[trim garnet]

i refuse to believe that bloodthirsty on force swords is real

[fresh reef]

(which is really stupid)

[trim garnet]

its a myth

[trim garnet]

wait you dont benefit from your own brittle procs????

???????????????????????????

what the fuck

[azure karma]

Dang

[spice veldt]

you do

[visual ridge]

WHat is that Armour the Zelot next to the Psiker is Wearing?

[spice veldt]

they just mean that trauma has nearly 100% armour damage modifiers

[slate sun]

what do you need it for though 🙂

[spice veldt]

so brittleness is whatevs for you if you're not swapping to your melee and whatnot

[trim garnet]

funny bloodthirsty blazing spirit deimos

me want

[spice veldt]

Brittleness being a debuff that applies rending% to all incoming attacks to an enemy

[teal needle]

I actually like flurry/blazing because it still crits Often Enough and being able to knock ogryns on their asses faster makes my life easier

[azure karma]

What's dump stat on trauma?

[spice veldt]

where rending does this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1160050429812539422/Screenshot_20231003_131852_Discord.jpg?ex=65334027&is=6520cb27&hm=6e4b7d6049b8604d1421589e86309bcbe1cf58787d6d6820d2817b1235fcd632&

[teal needle]

But nexus blazing is better synergy and if you don't think you're charging too slow its the better option

[azure karma]

Resistance or quell speed?

[slate sun]

I can relate 😄 I'm running with blazing illisi with shred, even though it's meme only

[fresh reef]

1000% quell speed

[azure karma]

What does the warp resistance do actually

[trim garnet]

as in you want quell speed or you dont want quell speed

[fresh reef]

Quell speed is dump stat on basically every staff

[untold vault]

Makes ur peril go up slower

[rocky osprey]

Do these two synergize with each other? or is it the quelling action specifically

[trim garnet]

yeah thought so

[untold vault]

But you never lack quell speed

[spice veldt]

all forms of quelling

[rocky osprey]

nice ty

[fresh reef]

Peril reduction per cast. Ex. If an attack costs 10 peril and your have a peril reduction of 50% it'll cost 5 peril

[teal needle]

Going from 60-80 quell speed seems like about .2 seconds off quelling from 100%. Or, .04 seconds quelling from 100% to 80% which is what you'll be doing more often. So practically invisible benefit

[azure karma]

Dang

Anyway, I just spent 4000 plasteel but no blazing soul so gg

[teal needle]

It's why charge speed sucks on void strike specifically. .03 seconds between 60 and 80 stat on the weapon

[spice veldt]

0.5s difference between 60% and 80% quell speed if they didn't change the tick rate with the recent update

you quell in discrete increments every 250ms

[azure karma]

Good info

[spice veldt]

just that the peril meter that you see on your screen has some visual interpolation applied whenever it's going down

presumably to make it look nicer and not have sudden jumps

though that makes it a little annoying for managing a mechanic where the consequence of failure is death

[teal needle]

They increased quell speed across the board and put in quell speed talents, it does not feel at all like .5 seconds on a full quell this patch

[azure karma]

Yeah I noticed it disappears at 20% when I'm quelling from 90 ish sometimes

[spice veldt]

time to frame check

[wooden flare]

What are warp charges and how do you generate them?

[azure karma]

So did voidstrike completely overtake trauma with this patch for aurics?

[untold vault]

Yes, it's not even close

[teal needle]

My EXTREMELY SCIENTIFIC TESTING indicated that 60-80 quell takes you from "One one thousand two two thous-" to "one one thousand two two th-" quelling from 100%

[untold vault]

trauma still works though

[wooden flare]

Holy shit I haven’t seen that meme face in eons

[untold vault]

You're just not busted

[azure karma]

Same

[wooden flare]

But still, how do I generate warp charges?

[teal needle]

I really shoulda recorded but the difference felt so miniscule i just wrote it off as miniscule

[wooden flare]

Because apparently I’ve been running around at max peril thinking it was that

Like a dumbass

[azure karma]

Last time I saw it was on pictochat

[teal needle]

Only 2000s newgrounds kids will understand

[trim garnet]

left hand keystone

[wooden flare]

Damn not only do I have to keep 4 at all times, but I have to do that for 300 seconds

And there’s no telling what my randoms will do kill stealing elites from me

[trim garnet]

meaning you cant use your ability lest they be consumed

:)

it was a lot more manageable before they were always consumed on ability use

[azure karma]

Is that for a penance or something

[wooden flare]

I’d rather kill a boss solo with just brain burst

[trim garnet]

sadly the new talent patch has fucked a lot of psyker penances

[wooden flare]

Yes

[trim garnet]

since most of them are tied to brain burst or warp charges

[spice veldt]

still 250ms, and the amount of peril that you quell per tick is the same

they changed the timings of when you could quell but didn't change anything to do with the quelling itself

[wooden flare]

Does it have to be 300 seconds in a row or just in total?

Because that might change things

[azure karma]

I feel like shield isn't very useful aurics, it pops so fast

[teal needle]

Maybe i had the 30% quell speed talent on when testing

[trim garnet]

in a row 🙃

[spice veldt]

the shield's main use to me is for blocking bomber nades/flamers/trapper nets

[trim garnet]

sorry bro you have been fomo'd

[spice veldt]

and to allow me to avoid Scrier's Gaze

[trim garnet]

penances were much easier before the new talent patch 😔

[wooden flare]

In the words of an Irish YouTuber who keeps forgetting to unmute himself….
“FUUUUUUUUUUU-“

[full musk]

does smite crit?

[trim garnet]

scriers has ruined me bro its too fun

[trim garnet]

assail is the only blitz that can crit afaik

[untold fiber]

scriers + new voidstrike staff = nsfw

[wooden flare]

You know what?

No

I refuse to do that penance

The rewards are crap

And I can get better drip from easier penances

[trim garnet]

malleus and pick n mix get you the best drip minus helmet thankfully

😔

still need to do malleus...

[wooden flare]

Malleus seems very easy

[frank moat]

[wooden flare]

Get a friend to go Ogryn tank with shield, taunt the boss then burn it

[full musk]

i just did all of em, mostly for the chest and headpiece

[frank moat]

Fuck Malleus

[wooden flare]

Bonus points if all of them go taunting Ogryns to keep the boss distracted for longer

[frank moat]

Bane of my existence since launch

[trim garnet]

hardest part of malleus is getting people to do it with you

[wooden flare]

Monstrosities are things like Beast of Nurgle and Chaos Spawn right?

[frank moat]

And no I won’t just find someone to help

[trim garnet]

well unfortunately malleus is now private game only so

[wooden flare]

Bruh quit making it harder for yourself

[trim garnet]

you gotta

[full musk]

yeah

do a lights out, find a dh, and just kill it

[frank moat]

I just decided never to do it

[full musk]

with someone to take aggro

[tight pivot]

Does anyone know why the ability won’t stop me from exploding?

[wooden flare]

Is it bad I got the kill an elite with the peril explosion penance on accident?

[frank moat]

Spent too much time trying to cheese it by having the bots die in public games

[spice veldt]

Psykinetic's Wrath doesn't quell any peril, so it won't stop you from exploding.
You'll need Venting Shriek

[tight pivot]

Doesn’t the penance say psykinetics wrath?

[full musk]

it's called gitgud... says the suicidal psyker

[spice veldt]

prob an un-updated penance

[wooden flare]

What’s the best way to get the Cliffhanger penance?

[hushed cedar]

Venting Shriek counts for penance. Same with the 'upgraded' Brain Burst

[tight pivot]

Ok

Thank you

[full musk]

there's an ending on one mission with 2 narrow bridges coming from a central tower, i did it there with force push on a sword

[untold fiber]

Voidstrike + FS. Disrupt destiny or warp charges?

[frank moat]

Vigil Station Oblivium espionage is where I got mine

Shriek and Force Sword push combined help

[wooden flare]

So shriek then force sword?

[hushed cedar]

What's the name of the mission where you have to restart the forge at the end? That's a fantastic place to get Cliffhanger

[full musk]

would they fall to their death there? not a long fall unless i'm thinking of something else

[acoustic spade]

You push them into the central hole

[full musk]

oh thaaaat one

[acoustic spade]

I did mine there

didnt even have to try

it just happened

[hushed cedar]

Same

[azure karma]

What curios do you stack on psyker

[ornate hamlet]

WHY ARE RANDOMS SO UNRELIABLE IN AURIC MAELSTROM

Bro just stick together and live

PLEASE

[hushed cedar]

I'm currently using +toughness, +health and +stamina with whatever perks you like. I like toughness regen, damage resist sniper/pox hound, corruption resist

[last sleet]

Wait, I just got a purple for Auric Damnation. Shouldn't that always be exalted?

[dreamy stream]

I'm loving smite + scriers gaze but im also blowing up people's PCs

[spiral ore]

just got the game and im looking for someone to show me the ropes, ps im on pc

[karmic reef]

Anyone else feel like assail needs to made more niche? rn its just the objective better pick and I dont like that, I kinda hope they make you have far less shards, but stronger and required more control over them, so then you could really do the yondu thing

[grand shoal]

whats the blessing that generates less peril on voidstrike?>

[spice veldt]

i wouldn't buff their damage

[karmic reef]

Maybe make them reclaimable on a certain requirement like how zealot knives work

I just want direct control over the projectile

that also might make it more skill based since thats a main complaint

[spice veldt]

I'd prob just nerf the ammo regen and max ammo acount

[jaunty schooner]

Transfer Peril

[spice veldt]

since if you only had 3 shards max, you wouldn't be able to burst through them to kill a ranged patrol before you even need the regen

[karmic reef]

I think it just needs to pick a lane, either horde clear, or elite, instead of outclassing the other two options at both

[spice veldt]

the shards have a target limit, so it'll still be quite good at that

it's not a cleave limit like most weapons

[fluid knot]

If you want it done, ive helped probably over a dozen people do it, so i literally dont mind at this point

[spice veldt]

so it'll hit 3 poxwalkers, 3 shotgunners, 3 ragers, etc.

given this target limit, hordeclear does translate into murdering elite packs

[karmic reef]

Maybe if they turn it into more of a group elite clear tool, I'd like that

[spice veldt]

Assail should stick to its role as a quickswap weapon

it has a swap time, allows you to shoot and then swap off to another weapon to aim it while you go do something else

and it has the stagger to boot

[karmic reef]

smite for horde clear (if they buff it a bit), brain burst for single elite (if they buff its damage so it always kills most elites) and assail for quickswap/elite group clear

[spice veldt]

so you can just shoot it at a group of 3 ragers and whack them with your melee since the ragers will get staggered

[grand shoal]

So it looks like trauma force staffs have the transfer peril so you have to make or get one of those then take the blessing from that and put it on a voidstrike?

@jaunty schooner

[spice veldt]

they belong to different families, so unfortunately not

[karmic reef]

maybe make it recover really slowly while out, but recover much faster while you have another weapon out, so then its truly quickswap based

[grand shoal]

I'm a dumb jock this is confusing my wittle brain

[jaunty schooner]

No, unfortunately each force staff have their own set of blessings

[spice veldt]

the latter part of each name indicates which family a weapon belongs to https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1142143563505864764/image.png?ex=6532b495&is=65203f95&hm=2f4b673b3dd9904709c311ef7176f61a95f087d8a20805c868f68f053edd610a&

the problem with force staffs is that only one variant of each family exists currently

so it's not the most intuitive thing to notice

[grand shoal]

so how the heck do people get transfer peril on their VS

[proven stirrup]

Farming

[spice veldt]

though it wouldn't make sense and it would in practice just have the effect of having a slower regen

a straight nerf to its ammo regen would be a simple change and not have a potentially unexplained mechanic like that while having a similar effect

[jaunty schooner]

Upgrading voidstrikes or getting lucky with the emperor or melk

[karmic reef]

true

[hushed cedar]

Craft voidstrikes and upgrade them to blue to get transfer peril

[grand shoal]

Just got it from Melk hahaha

score.

[warped moth]

How's this for blessings?]

its on the shop, considering buying

[grand shoal]

wait so its on a blue 413 voidstrike, if i upgrade that do i risk losing the blessing? should i just take the blessing off the blue one?

[proven stirrup]

no, upgrades just add to what's there

[hushed cedar]

You'll never lose a blessing. If you upgrade, it'll just add a second

[wooden flare]

I barely push them

This challenge is tedious to do

[proven stirrup]

The upgrading process is just to put blessings on items for potential extraction

[jaunty schooner]

No the blessing stays when you upgrade it. If you don't care for the stats you can turn it into Hadron to pull the blessing out

You get to keep the blessing forever

[grand shoal]

thanks all.

[left patio]

Is there any weapons i should definitely use on a psyker? Im still only level 12, dont know if its just preference or not

[wooden flare]

Voidstrike Staff I hear is stupid op

You get that at lvl 11 or something

[jaunty schooner]

Just play with any force staff you get so you get a feel for them

[hushed cedar]

Surge staff is stupid OP. Voidstrike is pretty good. Trauma sucks. Purge is great depending on the situation.

[unique mist]

voidstrike staff and illisi blaze force sword

but you might not have them at lvl 12 i dont think, not sure

[left patio]

Ill try surge and void, when i get them

[hushed cedar]

Surge staff will fel super weak at first. You need talents and good perks/blessings on your surge

[unique mist]

that's what i found too

the staffs felt super weak early game

[spice veldt]

Trauma is a fine staff

[hushed cedar]

This is my surge staff. It shreds elite packs

[teal needle]

Trauma good actually

beats purg imo

[obtuse moth]

I find trauma went from like the strongest to near the weakest for me

[grand shoal]

what does impact do

[obtuse moth]

CC

its CC "damage"

[spice veldt]

increases the amount of stagger by your attacks/pushes

[obtuse moth]

stagger, flinch or knockdown depending on threshold

[fluid knot]

My guy have you tried Void recently?

[small spindle]

bummer you can't search in threads, there a general smite build someone would recommend? Whats the exploit folks were talking about?

[fluid knot]

It can one shot bascially every non-Ogryn enemy

[teal needle]

I didn't even see the voidstrike take lmao

[obtuse moth]

@small spindle basically just take empowered psionics and profit with an infinite channeled smite

[steel bronze]

Dumb question. Do I gain the stats from a weapon if im using my blitz? I.E. "precognition" increasing finesse damage with assail

[obtuse moth]

which ogryn enemy can't it one-shot? (monstrosities not counting)

[grand shoal]

does that mean it increases your damage as well or does it just increase your damage bc they're staggered?

[fluid knot]

Depends, if you have Surge and proc it, it'll one shot those too

[astral oracle]

Voidstrike is currently best
Surge staff feels iffy after the change so if you can get used to it, great
Trauma is slightly worse than voidstrike but still alright
Purgatus feels not so strong now with the health change

[fluid knot]

Fuckin thing needs to go back to pre-buff levels relative to the new scaling

[spice veldt]

neither; just increases the stagger of your attacks

[obtuse moth]

so you have damage values for your weapon and cc damage values. like it'll do 50 health damage and 20 stagger "damage" which can be multipled and calculated just like regular damage, except its for hitting enemies so they'll get flinched, knocked back, or knocked down

power buffs both of them (and also cleave)

[grand shoal]

that was a college level summative response. thanks

[narrow crane]

you can literally find my messages here 3 days ago talking shit about Trauma, then saying "I hate this thing, but I'll give it a serious try for a few days" and I've been praising the Trauma staff non-stop.

I wouldn't say it's broken, but I think Trauma has the highest skill floor of all the staves and it's incredible when used as a support tool above all else.

[obtuse moth]

the blue numbers with the lightning icon are the impact 'damage' values and the red are the health

[worldly chasm]

Has trauma actually changed at all? I used it exclusively pre-patch, but now only play surge/void 😄

[lament zephyr]

lol bro whips out a graphic. ty so much tbh

[narrow crane]

also does insane damage for a CC weapon

[frank moat]

Most won’t, or may only effect the Assail dart if you swap to that weapon in before the dart lands

[unique mist]

well how is trauma played

[obtuse moth]

i just pulled the attack breakdown from the game, hit v, then hit e after selecting a weapon in your loadout. also you're very welcome :3

[lament zephyr]

hero

[spice veldt]

Handcannon on the revolvers does have a "fun" (bugged) interaction where it applies to the shards even if you have Assail equipped

[steel bronze]

Thank you 🙂

[frank moat]

But I know on the revolver, Hand-Cannon grants the Assail darts Rending at all times, and I believe Point Blank will also work with Assail

[astral oracle]

Oh so assail also has the bug that takes talents from a ranged weapon

[narrow crane]

I dont think so, but Rending Shockwave + Warp Flurry is an INCREDIBLE tool to multiply your teams damage. Also, it staggers EVERYTHING except monsters and mutants.

Use it as a tool to ensure your teammates RARELY get touched by anything, infinitely stagger crushers, bulwarks, anything within 20m, and you can keep yourself alive for an insane amount of time by just aiming it at your feet. Might be the most clutch weapon in the game.

[astral oracle]

Like zealot’s knives

[sterile saddle]

i think the axes does the same thing with zealot knife throw

[astral oracle]

It was a ranged talent from what I remember

The infinite cleave on crit one

[sterile saddle]

saw a video of some dude changing dmg by equpping different weapons

[astral oracle]

It was probably a crab video

Praise be to crab

[narrow crane]

@unique mist

[sterile saddle]

warp flurry is the faster casting right?

[fluid knot]

Highest skill staff used to be Void Oh how things change

[sterile saddle]

was it really?

cause i rocked the void for the longest time, felt like it was more of an easy mode staff

u just point at floor and boom

[spice veldt]

it's still not a AoE/autoaim staff so I'd count it as higher skill

[sterile saddle]

void? it's aoe..

[teal needle]

Are... you thinking of trauma?

[sterile saddle]

you can shoot at the floor

and it booms in a small area

[mellow gorge]

it's way more effective at head height

[sterile saddle]

yeah

i mean, if ur being mobbed and need away out

u can stumble enemies

[mellow gorge]

if you being mobbed

melee

[spice veldt]

the explosion damage is pretty meh so I don't count that much

[sterile saddle]

i mean, i used to use the illisi

now i've swapped to Rakshad

cuz the push attack is godlike

shove sweep attack? Pls make more animations like this.

[mellow gorge]

melk out here temping me, knowing full well i have to fix the perks

[austere burrow]

that's kinda unfixable already though

[harsh urchin]

hell yeah do it

[austere burrow]

unless you like rampage i guess

[harsh urchin]

rampage used to be good, it's even better after the patch

[austere burrow]

i guess preference

[harsh urchin]

cuz they made the numbers bigger AND they changed it from damage to power

so insane

[sterile saddle]

dang he got a 378 on that

niiice

[harsh urchin]

fuck

I'm gonna go drop like 5k plasteel

on em now LOL

[obtuse moth]

which part?

[harsh urchin]

i want to make a good one

[austere burrow]

how reliably does riposte trigger

[mellow gorge]

hadron got the last laugh

[austere burrow]

yooooo

[small spindle]

how do you proc it infinite?

[astral oracle]

just

have a stack

one (1) singular stack of psionics

profit

[harsh urchin]

rest in pepperoni

it's not bad though

[mellow gorge]

going to hold onto it

[spice veldt]

this thingy

[austere burrow]

what's wrong with riposte

[harsh urchin]

just roll with sprint eff to run faster xD

[austere burrow]

i guess you were fishing for rending

[spice veldt]

riposte is fine but you'd probably rather Uncanny Strike

[mellow gorge]

wait, no they right, i could just settle on sprint eff

it's not that bad

[obtuse moth]

oh wow, thanks for responding

[teal needle]

I'm not the biggest fan of riposte / precog. Even in the thick of things they aren't up as long as od like

[mellow gorge]

i can slap uncanny 3 opn there (dont have 4)

been using this though

[spice veldt]

Riposte/Precog proc enough times against Crushers/Maulers/Plogryn/Chaos spawn, which is good enough for me

[mellow gorge]

6s is a long time

does it refresh itself?

[austere burrow]

i assume so

every other buff works like that right

[obtuse moth]

if you throw assail and swap to a transfer peril weapon does that work

[obtuse moth]

are you running the dodge on crit and dodge + 50% duration talents?

[ornate hamlet]

is bloodthirsty good?

[feral verge]

nah

[odd flax]

hey does the new brain rupture count for the old brain burst penances?

[unique mist]

should do

[left patio]

I cant decide what ability modifier might work well with my smite, opinions?

[royal falcon]

shiiiieee might just run scriers now, thanks milk

stopping power poopoo but eh I'll manage

[winter magnet]

what blessing should I be going for on my dueling swords?

[teal needle]

I suspect if they're going to do anything to assail it will be cooldown. Probably nerf it's ability to proc empower (or make empower only affect peril and damage or something) and maybe slightly increase the base cooldown.

[north pike]

Perks suggestions ?

[fair quarry]

I'm pretty sure I've seen people stagger bosses with the void strike staff, what's up with that?

[rare lagoon]

Yeah currently an almost/full charge of voidstrike can stun bosses, plague ogryn seems to get it the worst. Managed to stun lock one for a solid 30 seconds

[weak sapphire]

Is it just me or does the brainburst build feels slow, weak and obsolete

[north pike]

I put brainburst in if I don't intend to use my blitz, just because it can proc for free

[weak sapphire]

And does Mettle affect all attacks or just melee?

[weak sapphire]

Smart

[rare lagoon]

Brainburst is good with empowered psionics, I haven’t tried it without the combo yet

[fair quarry]

I guess if you've got enough stagger, anything is possible

[small spindle]

@hazy locust could you consider doing a form instead of a thread for build discussion? You can't search threads unfortunately. But I suppose the idea is the thread info should get summarized into this space, just makes it a little tougher.

[neon steppe]

Brain burst is awesome, it’s even stronger than it used to be. Best choice for monster maelstrom, and best blitz if you are running purg.

[vale viper]

What is the perks and blessings you want for a dueling sword?

[chrome patrol]

any tipps which gun i could use? currently i use illisi mk v blazesword and assail. currently i use the revolver which is ok but the low ammo is a bit meh and im not a big fan of las pistol is there a gun option for crushers and monstrosities?

[austere burrow]

i've been noticing that too

[sick mulch]

is there a best staff currently? or are they all just good

[austere burrow]

if i full charge weakspot a boss with void it just gets perma staggered

[languid tusk]

does it work on headshot for beast of nurgle ? or only in the pimple ?

[austere burrow]

i noticed it on headshot

didn't notice with pimple

[languid tusk]

very nice, headshot is easier

[ornate hamlet]

why does the psyker skill tree have so much, I feel lost looking at it

[steel flame]

I mean it has the same amount of stuff as every other tree

It's just ours is completely connected

[odd flax]

how do I go about the Malleus monstronum penance?

[steel flame]

Whereas everyone else's is seperated

[steel flame]

Get a shield ogryn, find a demon host, head pop till dead

[odd flax]

ah I see, so I need a friend

[steel flame]

I mean you can do a solo on a plague ogryn or bonbon

And just headpop them

[odd flax]

I can try that, thanks for the tips!

[azure karma]

is surge / warp nexus good on trauma

[steel flame]

They made it private cause it really messed up missions for people when others were throwing games away to hunt for the penaces

[steel flame]

Surge is terrible on trauma as it only applies to the fireball primary

[odd flax]

ah I need a buddy for private anyways, I'll see if I can rope in my old mates with the new update

[azure karma]

exeruption cant crit?

[steel flame]

It can but it doesn't get two shots from surge

[azure karma]

is that a bug

[steel flame]

No

Has always been like that

[austere burrow]

The bug is letting trauma roll it honestly

[steel flame]

This

[azure karma]

that sucks

[steel flame]

Nexus and blaze are good

[unique mist]

if they wanna keep it on trauma they should make it triple hit to make the primary more effective if it keeps not working on secondary

[steel flame]

Rending and flurry are good on it though the rending won't buff the trauma staff itself as it already ignores armor. But it will help teammates

Man if only the surge staff got surge

My m1 machine gun would be even more busted than it already is

Imagine this https://streamable.com/sp0hb4

But every crit was two shots

[light belfry]

does surge do anything for trauma

[sterile saddle]

starting to learn the devil claw

bruh

stronk knife

[steel flame]

No

[woven cedar]

why is sustained fire even available on the trauma staff

[steel flame]

Stop asking questions

[left patio]

For the emperor?

[woven cedar]

i feel like perks that cant even be procced on certain weapons should not be available on those weapons

[woven cedar]

emprah ate my perk slot i guess

[steel flame]

That makes too much sense

[woven cedar]

real

[steel flame]

And common sense sounds like heresy to me

Yeah... sustained and surge have absolutely no reason to be available on trauma

[woven cedar]

or any staff

none of them proc it

i think

[north pike]

Voidstrike uses Surge

[woven cedar]

neat

[north pike]

Use it with the crit one, and its nutso buttso

[astral oracle]

Does assail count as ranged for melk

[next heart]

Don't think so

[astral oracle]

shit

[long wharf]

of course it does

[next heart]

Does it?

[astral oracle]

YEAH

I just don't know if the melk mission has ranged as a unique modifier that applies to just g u n slot

[long wharf]

no

[astral oracle]

and blitz under a different modifier

but ty

[long wharf]

ranged = all ranged attacks

[astral oracle]

time to assail 1000 dregs

[steel flame]

All of the primary attacks proc them minus purgatus, but there is no reason to use a blessing slot for the trauma primary

[cyan notch]

does surge/sustained fire work with trauma now

[upper galleon]

Question for psyker mains who know what they are doing. does the dodge ranged attacks on crit talent activate dodge blessings like precognition and riposte ?

[steel flame]

Ranged applies to stave attacks and blitz

[upper galleon]

surge nexus is just better

[next heart]

Yes officer, this guy right here

[cyan notch]

not what i asked

[upper galleon]

sustained fire idk

[trim garnet]

anyone got advice on using scriers properly

[astral oracle]

I love committing Emperor-mandated Dreg murdering

[upper galleon]

I imagine it does as long as you don't drop the chain/actions

[trim garnet]

feels like i spend half the time in scriers quelling to try and get it to stack higher

[steel flame]

Again. Only on the primary fire not the charged

Always has

[glossy hazel]

Dont think it does, should be pretty easy to test in psykhanium with creature spawner

[upper galleon]

i don't have that mod but thanks

[sacred crypt]

Can someone explain to me how brain rupture works?

[upper galleon]

[steel flame]

We are not sure

[upper galleon]

now return to doing witchy things

[cyan notch]

so they didnt do shit then

[steel flame]

Still trying to test that

[spice veldt]

ye it does

[glossy hazel]

You should really get it, makes testing so much better

[sacred crypt]

Not sure how the hell that thing works, just raise your peril so your staff does insane damage? And thats all?

[upper galleon]

i just rely on others

[woven cedar]

primary doesnt proc sustained

[upper galleon]

only things I'm curious about you can't do with that mod

[steel flame]

Yeah riposte go brrrrrr

[upper galleon]

burgled monsters vs stealth thammer

can you oneshot? the world may never know

[steel flame]

You can test that. Just leave invisibility on in the monster spawner options

[glossy hazel]

You can spawn everything, I tested thammer stealth on a daemonhost. Almost onetapped it, would have onetapped if my thrust was 4 instead of 2

[upper galleon]

you can't spawn a burgled

afaik

i asked around in zealot chat

[lyric burrow]

yeah p sure you cant

[upper galleon]

blessing of nurgle maelstrom modifier

[steel flame]

Ah

Just do math then

[lyric burrow]

cspawn maybe

[cyan notch]

are you saying surge works on trauma rmb

[glossy hazel]

How much HP does BoN'd monstrositites get?

[upper galleon]

no i'm tired and talking in vc and got the stupid my bad

[spice veldt]

though fyi I think only stalkers & shotgunners will proc the dodge blessings? Shooters and gunners don't seem to do it

[cyan notch]

breh

[upper galleon]

it should work tho

[fresh reef]

WE LOVE FRIDGE

[upper galleon]

if that is any consolation

[lyric burrow]

what is and isnt a dodge has always been weird in this game

[upper galleon]

it should be like an echo explosion that happens like half a second after

[spice veldt]

i guess they didn't want you to have free riposte/precog procs against ranged patrols

which is peepee poopoo

[upper galleon]

not like those blessings are super OP anyways

[lyric burrow]

precog might not last long enough to always get use out of it anyway

unless you mean even ranged melee attacks dont proc

[spice veldt]

their melee attacks do, fortunately

[lyric burrow]

ok i was gonna say lol

[fresh vessel]

These things still shred carapace?

[cyan notch]

it has never worked before unless they changed it this this update which is why i asked in the first place

[lyric burrow]

it did get cara damage nerfed idk how much damage it does now though

[cyan notch]

there is no echo explosion

[upper galleon]

it should as in

it should as a concept

it is stupid fatshark hasn't either removed it or fixed it

[steel flame]

Well that's lame. I really wanted a crit dodge feedback loop

[fierce crest]

pretty sure

i will confirmm

[feral verge]

They do share blessings

[fierce crest]

yes

confirmed

i really dont want to get rid of this, its too funny

[steel flame]

Too bad it's post nerf. Rip 75% free damage 😛

[fierce crest]

oh shit glad i checked melk today

[unique mist]

how is the obscurus vs illisi force sword

[fierce crest]

much worse cleave, better single target

and the deimos is slighty worse cleave than obscurus for even better single target

[spice veldt]

though the better single-target on the obscurus vs the illisi only comes from the 3rd light, which is accessible through either the 2nd light (dogshit) or 2nd heavy (slow)

[weak sapphire]

Anyone tried a raging melee psyker?

[fierce crest]

what heavy comes after l3?

[spice veldt]

chains into h1 iirc

[weak sapphire]

Scryer gaze and disrupt destiny

[fierce crest]

#1158835513789272126 message

[fierce crest]

so you cant even alternate into l3

shield is better for heavy melee

cuz fuck shooters

[fierce crest]

shit i misread this as 77 first target

maybe not worth

[feral verge]

The scrier's gaze side of the tree boosts crit shit

[winter magnet]

can assail hits crit?

[feral verge]

Which, there are feats that increase toughness Dr, and automatically count as a dodge vs ranged on crot

[fierce crest]

[spice veldt]

most coherent moment of mankar

[winter magnet]

if so whats the crit rate?

[feral verge]

So there is definitely an argument for scrier's melee

[fierce crest]

yeah but i have those talents anyway

[winter magnet]

???

[fierce crest]

it do

and when it does every hit of that shard is a crit

[winter magnet]

ok thanks

[fierce crest]

so stuff like this is really nice

[last sleet]

So is this the best way to deal with a Chaos Spawn? https://clips.twitch.tv/GoodAggressiveSnoodPeanutButterJellyTime-4vqx3ES6UCZAioel

[fierce crest]

yes

[winter magnet]

is it a door

im not clicking on it

[fierce crest]

close

[winter magnet]

but if it's a door then yes

[royal falcon]

can’t zealots push chaos spawn off cliffs using the relic

[fierce crest]

its a floor

[winter magnet]

sure can

[royal falcon]

[last sleet]

He just noped out.

[wooden flare]

Which staff is the best one for CC?

[royal falcon]

surge

[last sleet]

Surge is also good for single target big guys I feel.

[snow dust]

Which should I keep & how should I mod what I keep?
The one on the left has lower base but dumps quell speed. It also comes with T4 transfer peril but a T3 flak so I can use a mod slot to put in Warp Flury

[wooden flare]

To lock them down?

Because Smite does two things to bosses

Jack and Shit

[last sleet]

It also seems to do more single target DPS than void.

[snow dust]

Surge staff high damage against ogryns/armored maulers.

Void does higher DPS if aimed at the head

[wooden flare]

I should know, I tried giving Plague Ogryn the Palpatine Hands

[snow dust]

Surge better if your aim sucks

or drunk. Surge makes it easy to just point in general direction and kill things

[last sleet]

My build setup is: Assail as much as possible. Illis sword when surrounded by small stuff, surge staff when big armor guy pops up. Seems well balanced for damnation.

Not great for boss DPS, pretty good at everything else.

[wooden flare]

ew Assail

[fierce crest]

cringe assail haters

see one boring playstyle and brain falls out ear

[snow dust]

My build setup for auric damnation is Assail as much as possible, Voidstaff until Assail comes back....
No time for melee
How are you getting surrounded by small stuff? Assail spam should be killing all of them before they build up in any meaninful numbers.

[last sleet]

I'm gonna enjoy assail as long as it is in. It reminds me of the fun playstyle from vermintide 2, where you could spam your ult that would seek headshots.

[fierce crest]

fireball

[snow dust]

moar fire \o/

Plague ogryn vs voidstaff is hilarious. Permanent stunlock

[fierce crest]

i played the teleport career

with recast talent

[last sleet]

Surge charge time is also a lot faster than void I think.

[fierce crest]

yeah void is slow

it might not actually be higher dps without the double crit blessing

[leaden oxide]

Did anyone ever test this?

[snow dust]

Aye it is but void still does respectable damage and penetration even without full charge

[fierce crest]

it blocks

[leaden oxide]

word

[fierce crest]

#psyker-class message

[snow dust]

It blocks but in damnation enemies can break your shield just through sheer damage.

[last sleet]

Hmm. I'm sure it does. But I feel like surge balances out the setup I have way better.

[glad meadow]

which psycher melee weapon use and can "reload" peril?

[snow dust]

void force weapons

[fierce crest]

force swords

[glad meadow]

is it just force swords?

[atomic zephyr]

is this still salvageable?

[snow dust]

Yes, just look for force weapons.

[crystal urchin]

En garde

[glad meadow]

ah, too bad dang

i like the dueling sword stance

but my build is pretty much peril dumping

[fierce crest]

force swords for melee, force staffs for ranged, laspistol can also generate peril with its special but cant cleanse it

[glad meadow]

is there way to gain peril beside you know?

[snow dust]

Aye, and void balances out my setup: The lack of a decent melee weapon build. Q_Q

[trim garnet]

laspistol special? what?

huh

[fierce crest]

yep

[trim garnet]

theres no way

[glad meadow]

heavy laspistol

[fierce crest]

psyker gets a unique version from the other classes

[glad meadow]

too bad we don't have a heavy revolver with force

[snow dust]

Spam secondary fire on force sword, you can build peril that way. Not sure why you'd want to do that though.

[trim garnet]

how have i NEVER known this?

[snow dust]

It works like vet's power sword

[trim garnet]

wtf

[fierce crest]

thats the only difference

[glad meadow]

i use and gain peril to increase damage, toughness, etc etc

[snow dust]

Probably because it was the suck?

[fierce crest]

it looks the same on paper

[glad meadow]

i do great with surge staff (up to a point where i am the one who kill the most elite out of the team)

but have a hardtime with horde

[fierce crest]

illisi sword

if you really want to use a force sword

[snow dust]

Hard time with hordes? Voidstrike staff can solve your problems.

[glad meadow]

and it annoying when one of them run up from behind and just interrupt my staff

[fierce crest]

theres a blessing for that

[glad meadow]

i think voidstaff solve most problem atm and i don't like it

[snow dust]

lol

[glad meadow]

i like my staff blessing atm

mostly that void staff just feel not as cool as the other staff

[left patio]

I just went vrak mkvii

[glad meadow]

i wish i can make the gandalf staff work

is dueling sword good for horde?

[snow dust]

Aye, I like how surge is the original sith lightning weapon

[left patio]

Staffs felt kinda 💤

[snow dust]

The feel is great even if the damage was weak. Now damage is higher and it's like sith lightning....Then bio-lightning came along lol

[glad meadow]

man you goof

but i get ya

i was planning to play a gunpsycher when i bought the game last week

but i like the staff more than i admit

[snow dust]

Laspistol psyker, go. ^('-')^

[glad meadow]

i wish skyrim staves work like this

[snow dust]

aye

[atomic zephyr]

is exorcist good with the illisi FS?

[left patio]

Itd be nice if i could zoom with staff. Just put the charge and spam on the same button. Gimme a zoom

[glad meadow]

btw this

[snow dust]

Just use tag as your aim finder.

[fierce crest]

oh yeah that one

[glad meadow]

which model of dueling sword is good for horde?

[fierce crest]

good?

thats the wrong question

[snow dust]

Wasn't it the MK4?

[glad meadow]

wrong question?

[safe crystal]

No. Your highest cleave is 3 from the push attack. You CAN clear a horde with it relatively easily without taking damage, but it will take time

[glad meadow]

alright is it purely single target?

[snow dust]

Nah, dueling swords are decent for hordes. I used to run one back when I had literally no melee weapons.

Have to be a bit more careful since you can't braindead swing like power sword or thunder hammer.

[fierce crest]

well to be fair psyker cant braindead swing those

psyker cant swing them at all :P

[snow dust]

Not with that attitude

Don't be afraid to swing that way /joke

[fierce crest]

im ready for force hammer

[snow dust]

UwU

[fierce crest]

i will drop axes for a force hammer

[snow dust]

Hammer them harder

[fierce crest]

tell you how many points the weapon has

[safe crystal]

Tells you how many allocated stats are in the modifiers, perks and blessings

[snow dust]

Just ignore it. The important number is the base rating, perks, and blessings.

[fierce crest]

it literally

tells you how many points

[snow dust]

E-peen counter

[fierce crest]

thats what it does

[snow dust]

Tells you how big the weapon is. UwU

[fierce crest]

stat points + perk points + blessing points

[snow dust]

lol

Did a 1 psyker 3 ogryn w/ slab shield auric run. It was surprisingly smooth.

They just armored up while I was spamming void strike as we moved forward

[atomic mantle]

Anyone know what's the best build for Assail?

Telekine Shield or Venting Shriek?

And those with Assail builds, send me what their skill tree looks like.

[snow dust]

Depends, auric take telekine shield because ranged spam is super annoying. Take venting for everything else

[fossil snow]

I hate getting burst cucked by mind in motion now

[trim garnet]

i take scriers with assail

you can quell after firing a volley while you let the shards to their thing

[last sleet]

Early on, we didn't even have the base level. Comparing items was super hard.

[trim garnet]

afaik untrue

let me check rq

it LOOKS like you cant

but you can

[atomic mantle]

So around the board, it looks like Venting is the best?

[trim garnet]

same with getting the faster quell speed if you go scrier

[astral oracle]

Only a malice maelstrom but

l fucking mao 0 damage taken

[trim garnet]

crit aura zzzzz

10% cdr every day

mostly so you can get one with the warp

[astral oracle]

Assail Shriek is pree pog ngl

[trim garnet]

broken perk

[fossil snow]

has fatshark said anything with regards to assails.... assailness?

[shut swan]

wait what is this screenshot and how?

[astral oracle]

Scoreboard mod

And for how
Assail + Shriek

[shut swan]

thanks! appreciate it

[last sleet]

I wish they gave us back 5 man teams.

[astral oracle]

that was funny yeah

[trim garnet]

you cant get crit aura + shriek tho sadly

:P

[astral oracle]

Bring Him Back

[fossil snow]

wouldnt you want cd for shriek so you can redline more?

[trim garnet]

yeah i think cd aura is just best overall

outside of specific breakpoints off of the 10% elite damage one

[astral oracle]

Depends if you'd prefer the shriek CD or prefer Disrupt mark

[trim garnet]

the 4% crit aura seems genuinely useless to me

[fierce crest]

crit multiplies

[spice veldt]

i take the crit aura mainly cuz i can avoid mind in motion

[fierce crest]

no one is saying its bad

[spice veldt]

or saying that it's balanced (it's not)

[astral oracle]

I do miss being put outside of map for no reason

[fierce crest]

people say that playstyle is boring

[astral oracle]

there are people saying it's bad

[fierce crest]

yeah this i do see

[trim garnet]

i'd like assail more if its right click was meaningfully different

[astral oracle]

i've seen some

[spice veldt]

but i think that most people have realized that assail is overtuned after a few days

[trim garnet]

but you literally just spam left click

[spice veldt]

since I don't see as many people defending assail now

[fossil snow]

I dont like to use assail since being on the other end feels kinda lame

[trim garnet]

keyword meaningful

[fossil snow]

which suckes because the aimed fire of assail is my aethetic jam

[astral oracle]

Save him.

[trim garnet]

its such a massive firerate loss that i basically never right click outside of crossroom snipers

[snow dust]

fire rate of aimed assail is too slow. It does fly further but doesn't go forever (can be outranged by snipers/gunners).

[untold vault]

thats really what it is for

[spice veldt]

the RMB should've been a non-aim assisted mode

[trim garnet]

i wish that aimed assail made you like

[fossil snow]

someone whos good at budjeting help me with this

[trim garnet]

shotgun blast the entire reserves or something

thatd be interesting

[unique mist]

you cant get it if you go brain rupture

[trim garnet]

cope and sneed

[fossil snow]

: (

[trim garnet]

cant get it

brain burst with psionics kinda fun as fuck ngl

[untold vault]

you cant go up in trees that were locked out

[unique mist]

isn't voidstrike like just better than bb

[spice veldt]

i like to bring up the pre-patch autopistol as the analogy to Assail to drill into people's head as to why it's borked

[trim garnet]

i take bothh

[astral oracle]

I miss my BB Purgatus memes

[fossil snow]

they emperors mercied my old psyker build

[astral oracle]

So much soulblaze

so much head pops

[trim garnet]

this still works kinda

[astral oracle]

Kinda but not as good as it was before

[fossil snow]

I mostly took bb to not take assail ngl

[glad meadow]

so how do you deal with horde if you have a dueling sword?

[trim garnet]

you can take both 10% bb random chance + the fast charge on combat ability

[glad meadow]

just push attack?

[trim garnet]

and then wildfire shriek setup

its not bad

[fossil snow]

but scriers and resonance is really fun to high roll

[trim garnet]

i thought the brainburst augments were exclusive but they arent

[unique mist]

what is the highest +% max health on a curio?

[spice veldt]

basically just spam lights and call it a day

[glad meadow]

dang

[spice veldt]

you're not going to be able to do much against a horde with duelling swords

[glad meadow]

so what is each dueling sword model good at?

[spice veldt]

preferably you've got some hordeclear on your ranged or blitz

as far as I can tell, they didn't properly buff each duelling sword

so the MK4 is just the best one currently because it was correctly buffed

[glad meadow]

weird, dagger can deal with horde really easily i recall

[fossil snow]

void doesnt make that watermellon dropped on the sidewalk noise

[spice veldt]

nah, the dagger couldn't

not pre-patch and not now

[glad meadow]

i remember me being on like fucking zealot and never got hit for an entire mission with a dagger

[astral oracle]

i am now a believer of assail shriek over assail shield

[fierce crest]

it can deal with hordes

just

not fast

[austere burrow]

dagger deals with horde fine

you can cc it forever with pushes

[spice veldt]

it was "ok" at it as in it can kill 40 poxwalkers in 30-ish seconds

[fossil snow]

ow

[spice veldt]

but 40 poxwalkers in 30-ish seconds is on the slower side of things

[glad meadow]

i don't like assail cus it look ugly

[austere burrow]

ya that's fair