psyker-class

[dense ivy]

Casual 700k damage with assail

This is fine

[royal granite]

rupture?

[uncut hamlet]

brain rupture

upgraded bb

[royal granite]

ah that

[dense ivy]

Rupture is just BB with extra damage yes

[royal granite]

yeah i figured it would

[feral verge]

3x toughness curios + toughness perk + toughness regen + 2x sniper resist + gunner resist

@spice veldt

[royal granite]

i haven't touched it, i was never a big fan of BB

[uncut hamlet]

i was initially worried theyd make us use the unupgraded version

[royal granite]

valid

[atomic zephyr]

Das me. But trauma is too fun to not use. It kills everything

[uncut hamlet]

^^

[royal granite]

at least assail cleans up the mess pretty well

[feral verge]

scoreboard from hi5 shock

i just did wth that build

[spice veldt]

i'm not sure about warp charges since i haven't run with them, but my initial impression is that it's fairly point heavy

[feral verge]

i pretty much took all the +damage i could

[echo turtle]

This is clearly the Emperors sword

[light quail]

how much heavy dmg?!?

wooh

might have to find another one of those

[echo turtle]

It feels amazing

[spice veldt]

for me, True Aim and the crit feats are fairly important so I always stick to the right side myself

[elder rain]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[echo turtle]

just 1 hitting muties

yeah its insane

[royal granite]

duelling sword was good before too wasn't it

[elder rain]

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[light quail]

oh dude you gotta try rocks on ogryn then

[echo turtle]

not good horde clear, but the best single target poke with crits and weakpot

[royal granite]

i know some people swore by it

[uncut hamlet]

was it not before? I know a lotta people preferred it

[uncut hamlet]

same

[echo turtle]

3 head pokes will drop a crusher

[light quail]

mutie one hits on all difficulties with comedic ragdolls

[echo turtle]

1 head poke drops a mutie

[royal granite]

that's wildly overtuned lol

[echo turtle]

yes

[feral verge]

yeah it's enticing to lean all in on crits

[echo turtle]

enjoy it while it lasts

[feral verge]

especially with purga

[echo turtle]

I went all crit and sciers

its the funnest build ever

running brain burst, purgatus, scriers, charges

I feel likle a god

[spice veldt]

mostly for assail since hitting crits is quite a boost to its damage

[feral verge]

i have no idea how good scriers is, or isnt' but i really like the concept

[echo turtle]

its amazing

[spice veldt]

scriers is extremely sketchy

I rate the other ults over it

[feral verge]

the largest fault i can see with scriers is that it neccessitates quelling, for uptime

[echo turtle]

I just finished a maelstrom auric and was top of the scoreboard with it

[feral verge]

and all the time you spend quelling, could be spent just dealing damage instead

[spice veldt]

i've run into situations where I've needed to wait for it to end before I could do peril stuff without risking killing myself

[echo turtle]

i spend no time quelling

[feral verge]

yes, quelling can be very fast now

[spice veldt]

because there's no way to end scrier's except for going to 100% peril

[feral verge]

but it is still taking time away

[spice veldt]

the peril gen is fine early on, but having no way to instantly end it is a real dealbreaker for me

[royal granite]

scrier is for gunker obviously

the right side graphic is even a gunker

[spice veldt]

yeah, though True Aim itself mitigates the need for it

[royal granite]

works for a melee build too though probably

[stark niche]

Venting shriek user

[spice veldt]

and one of the more meta options, the Vraks 3, has essentially guaranteed crits

[stark niche]

I use bubble

And smite

[royal granite]

what is a vraks 3, that sounds like an axe

[echo turtle]

I was running it with guns and it was great. tried with purgatus and it was bonkers

purgatus with quell on kill crits like 50% of the time which enhances the damage massively

and you can stay under 100% indefinitely while hordes are around

[royal granite]

oh that sounds cool

[echo turtle]

just ran it with wildfire it was nuts

[austere estuary]

I like using it with void + transfer peril

[echo turtle]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1944245786?t=01h35m53s

[royal granite]

it's funny that there are talents which exist only to enable purgatus users

[austere estuary]

?

[echo turtle]

thats the build in a maelstrom, I warmed up with hi5s

[austere estuary]

the warp fire ones work well with trauma + blazing spirit + crit build

[royal granite]

does it? the application seems limited

[austere estuary]

yeah it's much better than prepatch

[royal granite]

neat

[austere estuary]

between the better access to crit and the higher burn damage

[feral verge]

i've yet to use voidstrike, on this patch

but this is my godroll

[austere estuary]

voidstrike is absoltuely mad you're in for a treat

[echo turtle]

amazing

[austere estuary]

that godroll especially

it's a straight upgrade from mine

and this makes me feel like I'm cheating

[royal granite]

the talent tree is healthy for the game though for sure

[echo turtle]

with that crit build purge staff I had over half the lesser enemy kills myself lol

[royal granite]

seeing people just try shit out is cool as hell

[austere estuary]

I have a hunch that the 30% quelling speed node might also affect all peril

[echo turtle]

yeah its the wild west again

[royal granite]

characters feel way more unique

[austere estuary]

as when I ran without it on void, it felt very different

[uncut hamlet]

quelling is insanely quick now, i love it

[uncut hamlet]

absolutely

way better than what we had before

[echo turtle]

with the 30% and a well rolled staff

100 to like 20% is less than a second

[uncut hamlet]

I hope they introduce more, since it looks like FS has future progression planned or characters

[echo turtle]

in scriers, I think I get my crit rate up to over 50%

[uncut hamlet]

with the 80% cap and such

[echo turtle]

and I coulnt as dodged for a second to ranged after each crit

[royal granite]

i want a tech priest so bad

[uncut hamlet]

and also a fifth operative slot, so maybe maybe a fifth class?

[uncut hamlet]

YEAA

[austere estuary]

oh wait nm I must have been thinking about the -36% peril from charges

-36% peril with void with transfer peril

[echo turtle]

yeah, its solid

[austere estuary]

is just

[viscid matrix]

its always been quick, you just didnt see it, cause peril meter was never accurate, tapping quell drops you 15%-20% instantly

[austere estuary]

crazzzzy

[turbid void]

sienna is getting summons in the next vermintide patch, might hold you over...you could pretend the summons are turrets? 😄

[uncut hamlet]

oh i see, and that was just never fixed until now? wild

[royal granite]

i will do no such thing

that is wild though

can't believe they went with necromancer

[upper galleon]

WOO got warp nexus 4 surge void staff

[echo turtle]

grats!

[upper galleon]

now i can finally play the game

[austere estuary]

gonna try this now

[turbid void]

i like how i was enjoying smite even before learning how the bug works

when they fix it i won't be sad

[olive ember]

Try swapping Scriers for dome shields

Bug rn but infinite dome shields with warp charges

[austere estuary]

scriers is getting big value

[royal granite]

the first smite build i made accidentally makes use of the bug

[austere estuary]

from the void and the peril cost down

[turbid void]

oh is that how this fellow had a bunch of void shields up?

[uncut hamlet]

yo this is pretty good

[royal granite]

the first build i made period was assail voidstrike dome shield

[austere estuary]

also tbh void shield is nice and all but what kills me is never ranged, almost never

[royal granite]

also before i read anything about meta

[uncut hamlet]

just gotta hope the upgrades rollokay

[royal granite]

VOID SHIELD

[olive ember]

Yeah dome shields for wte reason get 100% CD if you have warp charges

[uncut hamlet]

all the good ones fr

[austere estuary]

always a sneaky melee or bomber or whatever

[royal granite]

https://tenor.com/view/minor-spelling-mistake-gif-21179057

[olive ember]

So you can just spam em as long as you are generating charges

[calm lotus]

goddamit i stop looking at my peril for 3 seconds to try to prevent a team wipe

[turbid void]

i use the shield that stuns elites

great when you're crap at dodging and need to stop a dog or charging fellow

[royal granite]

void shields are a thing in the 40k setting though, however they are almost exclusively used by VERY big vehicles, like spaceships and titans

[warm jay]

can someone link me the build thread?

i cant seem to find it in this thread

[royal granite]

titans?

yeah they're called titans

[charred urchin]

Titans, Knights, Voidcraft, Command Vehicles, and fortresses.

[olive ember]

#1158835513789272126 message

[plucky flax]

Voidstrike is back up range weapon for my assail.

[sullen bobcat]

You know. I want to use surge + assail because it actually makes sense to pair a specialist weapon with an abitility that clears horde, but I feel so dirty for using the OP bullshit

[spiral lion]

use only one for being "not so op but op"... or not use both

[sullen bobcat]

I'm on purg

Struggling is more fun

[royal granite]

psyker has been lackluster for a long time, enjoy assail while it lasts

[sullen bobcat]

Psyker has been amazing for a while

[royal granite]

it's getting nerfed for sure, don't sleep on it, have fun while you can

[sullen bobcat]

What

I don't find it fun

[spiral lion]

problem

you can't have fun if everything just die from your gaze

[sullen bobcat]

Assail is boring when everything dies because you held M1 in the general direction of something and didn't put thought into it

[spiral lion]

it's just no fun boring

[sullen bobcat]

Gaze crit voidstrike is fun because exploding

[olive ember]

Idk I have fun with voidstrike assail

Then again it’s because half the time I’m playing like it’s true solo

[sullen bobcat]

Damn. It's like we're different people

[royal granite]

it's a horde shooter literally every action you take is looking at something with malice until it dies, assail just has flair

[olive ember]

Because my teammates like eating dirt

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Besides you are using purge staff

[plucky flax]

NA teammates built different.

[olive ember]

That thing is broke as shit either way

[olive ember]

Honestly

Carrying a lvl 22 through hi int shock on my ogryn alt is an experience

[royal granite]

also having 2+ psykers with assail in a party looks rad as hell

[fluid knot]

Been helping a pal adjust to Damantion these last few days an he's like 27, its a ride aye

[olive ember]

Bro the other ogryn like 2/3 through the game was like “damn this is tougher than I thought”

[plucky flax]

Hrm and here I did a 24 mins auric maelstrom cos we had an unlimited power psyker just stunning everything.

[uncut hamlet]

what if 4 assail psykers

[spiral lion]

it's different when you either slowrly burn stuff with fire and lightning (smite), or you need to actually aim, or you need to go to melee. Assail? none of the above

[royal granite]

i'd love to see it

[olive ember]

And I was just there staring at the two people perpetually dead or dying and I’m just like “gee I wonder why”

I didn’t type it in chat tho but holy shit

[fluid knot]

Get that strong back on the go Derpy

[olive ember]

Purge melts everything short of like a mauler wat

[olive ember]

I was playing a gun lugger ogryn with like a 20% ammo ripper lmao

[royal granite]

hard disagree, the skill ceiling for purge and smite are not much higher than assail

[olive ember]

Perpetually out of ammo

[plucky flax]

If people think trauma is weak. 24 mins 422k damage auric maelstrom.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qP0kFOiV6ag

[olive ember]

I swear I ate like 3 ammo crates

[plucky flax]

Blaze trauma and wildfire live on.

[fluid knot]

Oh yeah thats pretty fuckin low, Ripper can be starved of ammo even with an 80% roll if you gotta hard carry

[royal granite]

the hardest thing to do on a psyker, melee notwithstanding, is hitting a moving target at range with unguided non-hitscan projectiles

[spiral lion]

me too busy with absolute power, so my fire is from wildfire and shreak

[royal granite]

and you don't often need to do that

[turbid void]

just go full palpatine and let your allies worry about the ranged

[unique sand]

Sick staff. i wish mine had a higher charge rate like yours

[plucky flax]

Smite is op in specials train missions.

[fluid knot]

Idk, Void has a pretty big hitbox an thats the most obvious one

You just get used to the velocity after a while

[royal granite]

non-purge m1

is a bit harder

[fluid knot]

Ohh right gotcha

Yeah thats a bit weird in how it fires tho

Theres a bizzare delay to it

[royal granite]

yeah the direction it fires in is affected by latency i think

cause it's fine in the psykanium

[olive ember]

🤔

[fluid knot]

Where you mouse is when you click the button, you can move between you firing an it letting the bolt loose, but that alone is jank all itself

Latency can play a part tho for sure

[royal granite]

i am genuinely baffled that they haven't done something to fix that

[fluid knot]

The latency or the jank firing mechanic?

[royal granite]

both, either

what's the difference

[fluid knot]

True true

Hopefully the next patch has some more good shit in it, only two weeks out

[royal granite]

exciting

[ornate hamlet]

Whats best in slot blessings for chainsword

[royal granite]

idk, may be better to ask the zealots that

[plucky flax]

For what class?

[royal granite]

maybe the vets, though they're a pretty sorry bunch right now

[uncut hamlet]

lmao

thats great

[austere estuary]

good thing is warp flurry makes the difference between charge rates a bit smaller

[ornate hamlet]

Theory: Replace Deflector with Unstable Power and use Unstable Power IV (20% power increase) with Scrier's gaze. Thoughts? Perhaps the warp resistance will lower peril accumulation? Might make unstable power viable?

THat's 80 total extra dmg from the blessings.

Donno if perks apply before or after blessing modifications.

[austere estuary]

warp res won't lower gain from anything but the powerup action

but you could put exorcist on it to remove peril from repeated weakspot hits

[ornate hamlet]

Yeah that was the other blessing I was looking at

That way your total active time using scriers gaze stays active longer

[static agate]

Is Assail ability considered a warp attack?

[ornate hamlet]

yes

[austere estuary]

yes

[static agate]

awesome

[ornate hamlet]

best contender I have for Exorcist and Unstable Power:

low dmg though :/

[austere estuary]

oooh

thoughts?

[ornate hamlet]

This is better

[autumn smelt]

thats fuckin crazy

[ornate hamlet]

I wouldn't hold my breath. the 70s are all like C/B rating.

The 25 maniacs is good

[feral verge]

used my godroll voidstrike for first time (this patch)

god damn dude

[austere estuary]

haha yeah

right?

also be aware you can now rapid fire the secondary

just holding right click and clicking left

no weird animation cancel required

[feral verge]

i'm also almost unkillable

192 toughness, a bit of toughness dmg resistance or whatver it's called

[austere estuary]

it's great ain't it

[feral verge]

all the feats for toughness on peril drain/gain

[sullen bobcat]

I like how using the entirety of smite's primary peril from 0 to 100 can't even kill a scab gunner

"High damage"

[viscid matrix]

its higher damage than the other way with smite

if smite had damage, it would be op

[worn cypress]

I mean, we used to have a somewhat damaging smite in the form of a staff

[royal granite]

i think smite not having amazing damage is fine

[raw token]

old surge was NOT smite

[viscid matrix]

we still have surge staff, and its better than it used to be as a damage staff

[viscid matrix]

agreed, it can lock down a room way to easily

[worn cypress]

it was not smite but I kinda prefer old surge vs smite + new surge

[viscid matrix]

old surge had garbage damage, and the only reason we used it was because it could lock down 6 targets

[worn cypress]

though I quite like new surge

[viscid matrix]

new surge may be only 2 targets, but i can 2 shot crushers and maulers

[raw token]

yeah the only good thing about old surge was cc and now we have even better cc

[worn cypress]

old surge's quite nice on flak

[raw token]

not enough to justify just using iot for damage

[sullen bobcat]

Smite's primary fire should actually do damage

[worn cypress]

tbh I'm taking what I say myself with a grain of salt

[sullen bobcat]

You trade tons of CC for limited CC with limited range

[plucky flax]

Scab only mission I could run surge staff only.

[dense grove]

you guys think theyll update the penances at all in the future?

[plucky flax]

Pre-patch.

[worn cypress]

I was good with the old surge and had a groove going

[royal granite]

yeah eventually

[worn cypress]

and don't have a groove going with the new stuff yet 😄

[viscid matrix]

its absurdly powerful and can stunlock a room, it has enough damage as is, and you can cast it forever if you have empower

[ornate hamlet]

Unfortunately, I'm out of plasteel for Exorcist - quell peril on weakspot hit. But this build is insane....

[sullen bobcat]

Old surge was boring and a stun bot. The new surge feels more like an electric sniper

[raw token]

they update them a lot

[sullen bobcat]

Empower is a bug, so I don't count it

[plucky flax]

New surge has long range now?

[worn cypress]

dude old surge was so fun on auric/maelstorm tho

[sullen bobcat]

You can stunlock a room for a limited amount of time

[feral verge]

this is what im running pretty much

[dense grove]

have we gotten confimation on that or just hoping?

[feral verge]

or similar

[sullen bobcat]

Longer range than before. It feels like a sniper compared to the old surge imo

[feral verge]

i have exorcist 4 illisi

[raw token]

no im just saying in the past they have

[feral verge]

and voidstrike

[dense grove]

ah aight

[feral verge]

im trying to see how long i can stay in scrier's gaze

[viscid matrix]

Surge staff is medium range at best, probably same range as before, but it cant go thru walls and stairs

[sullen bobcat]

Just afk and quell with a staff

[ornate hamlet]

This is the gun I use.

[valid shale]

only 289 damage?

[plucky flax]

Yeah I didn't read anything about increase range for surge in the patch note so I was curious.

[ornate hamlet]

wdym only?

[valid shale]

lol

[dense grove]

what blessings would you want on Mk IV duel sword?

[viscid matrix]

only things that hit harder base damage is Bolter and Plasma

[valid shale]

Proof?

[foggy goblet]

Tips/tricks for a newbie Psyker thinking about the left hand side of the tree?

Seems too slow to be not enough damage, but it might be ignorance on my part 😅

[raw token]

uncanny strike and shred prolly

[ornate hamlet]

Proof is in the counterclaim against him.

[sullen bobcat]

*REALLY depends on your staff

[dense grove]

and for perks?

[ornate hamlet]

IF you wanna disprove him.

[royal granite]

everyone is new to the talent system right now, it is what, two days old?

experiment, go nuts

[viscid matrix]

Brain Rupture is best used to pop elites heads, use venting shriek to stop from exploding when at 100% or to clear the area

warp charges are a safe choice for keystone

[raw token]

crit chance and damage against enemy of your choice that doesnt have armor, i usually just go crit damage for the second one but technically that is not very efficient

[dense grove]

alright, thank you!

[plucky flax]

Maniac + whatever you want to kill.

[viscid matrix]

actually i was wrong, the revolver also hits harder, but it has 6 shots 😄

[sullen bobcat]

I have 4 crit builds and a purge build

[ornate hamlet]

long reload too

[dense grove]

what even are maniacs?

[ornate hamlet]

not as accurate

[foggy goblet]

Oh yeah?

[raw token]

mutants flamers and berserkers

[viscid matrix]

a fair few enemies 😄 Ragers, Toxic Flamers, Muties, Flamers, trappers, bombers

not sure about maulers crushers or reapers, will have to test

[plucky flax]

All the dangerous specials.

[dense grove]

ah okay, thank you everyone lmao

all had different answers

[viscid matrix]

Dogs might be too

[unreal tapir]

how does the psyker tree look after talent change? wanted to play this class but it was kind of clunky before

[viscid matrix]

its super good, we have a wide range of options and basicly all of it works

[royal granite]

insanely good right now

[plucky flax]

Dogs are infested. Reapers unyielding. Crushers are carapace. Mauler is flak with carapace head.

[unreal tapir]

time to finish leveling a psyker then. what all changed in recent updates?

[fossil snow]

alright boys, give me the harsh truth,

my beloved empowered smite is gonna get nerfed, isnt it

[plucky flax]

Sniper is unarmoured but it has very low health anyway.

[raw token]

void strike op assail op barrier op

[royal granite]

there's like 50 meters of patch notes

[unique sand]

any advice on what i should change

[fossil snow]

my peril is cringe so I dont do it lightning is gonna go away isnt it?

[viscid matrix]

so looks like these are maniacs

Flamers
Toxic Flamers
Trappers
Muties
Ragers

[golden frigate]

most probably yeah

[raw token]

change carapace to maniac and rampage to uncanny

[ornate hamlet]

Replace rampage with the rending blessing, and upg one of the perks.

[unique sand]

thanks

[ornate hamlet]

Uncanny strike.

[golden frigate]

if it didn't it would be weird even for fatshark

[viscid matrix]

Bombers are Flak
Snipers are Unarmored

[fossil snow]

Im gonna enjoy playing redlight greenlight with two seperate hordes while i can

[spice veldt]

and dreg ragers

[fossil snow]

at least im not as fucked as the assail enjoyers

[viscid matrix]

whoops missed those 😄

[golden frigate]

imagine using anything else when blaze void exists

[spice veldt]

ragers getting styled on as to be forgotten 😔

buff ragers

[still pelican]

Experimenting with curio combos... any reccomendations

[ornate hamlet]

Not me, I use it as a backup weapon. Otherwise, I use my Mk IV and my Voidstrike staff.

[golden frigate]

give them 4 arms and call it a day

[viscid matrix]

Flak are Armoured Ragers, all shotgunners, and gunners with armour and melee guys with mace and helmet

[raw token]

which are also getting nerfed

[still pelican]

I'm going with wound, tough, health

[plucky flax]

Dreg shotgunner and dreg gunner have unarmoured heads.

[ornate hamlet]

I have other primary/secondary

[spice veldt]

i'm a crackhead who goes all into toughness

[golden frigate]

h h h / h h t works out great for me, depending on how aggressive I wanna be

[still pelican]

hahahaha

[spice veldt]

but having at least one hp curio is a good thing

[plucky flax]

Nearly 300hp psyker here.

[still pelican]

what about stamina? Does that do much for quell?

[fossil snow]

full toughness gigachad detected

[unique sand]

max dpi and spin with unlimited lightning is the way to go

[spice veldt]

stamina affects kinetic deflection and whatnot

but if you're already taking kinetic deflection, you don't need stamina from an optimality perspective

[still pelican]

aaaaah

[fossil snow]

I went all in on reduction and my toughness bubble regens faster than the funny blue bar goes away

[golden frigate]

full stamina meme builds are kinda funny tho

[limber heath]

just rolled t4 warp flurry on voidstrike, is that usable? not sure what staff blessings to run

[still pelican]

so health > tough

I have W HP T

[spice veldt]

melee enemies are more threatening and ranged enemies are not much of a threat (especially if you're an assail/shield psyker), so allining into health isn't a bad idea

[fresh reef]

Personally never liked Kinetic Deflection. If I need to block, it's because my peril is high, so I just run a +3 stam instead along with toughness

[long wharf]

I still run two health, x3 stamina

[unique sand]

that is very based you wanna keep it or store the blessing

[still pelican]

with toughness regen and ability

[viscid matrix]

melee ignores toughness, so you want has much hp as possilbe to survive being hit

[golden frigate]

toughness is for shooter defense, mainly, so if you can avoid getting shot at it's not as good; health is universally good

[long wharf]

Though I do a lot less blocking now

[fresh reef]

Plus, with how the skill tree buffs worked out I get an oddly satisfying 156 Toughness 165 HP

[long wharf]

So I'll probably switch to all health

[spice veldt]

i have 200 toughness and ~170 hp 😎

[still pelican]

I have gunner resist as standard.

[viscid matrix]

all in on HP is worth it

[unique sand]

post staff pic

[still pelican]

Which I guess helps

[limber heath]

obv sustained is terrible ( i think? i assume salvo doesn't count chained charge shots and even if it did), what perk should i reroll and what blessing should i replace

[valid shale]

Kid named smite:

[valid shale]

https://tenor.com/view/palpatine-smile-creepy-creepy-smile-smirk-gif-24584761

[unique sand]

good god

[limber heath]

or is sustained good

[viscid matrix]

swap sustained for Surge or Blazing Spirit

[limber heath]

okay i'm a new psyker so I have like 0 stored blessings, i'll try to snag one of those

[golden frigate]

right now nexus + surge is pretty insane, nexus + flurry is good enough, flurry + surge/blazing sucks dont do it

[viscid matrix]

why use nexus when you can guarente a crit every 5 weakpoint hits

[golden frigate]

because then you can crit 3/5 of those

[unique sand]

i would replace sustained fire with transfer peril or something else then perks are up to you

[limber heath]

and then do i just stuff unyield over specialist

or carapace maybe?

[nocturne stream]

Does sustained fire even work

idk why i replied to him lol

[unique sand]

maniac seems to be the way to go over specialist it seems

[viscid matrix]

Maniac or Flak

[limber heath]

replace maniac instead of specialist???

[unique sand]

oh wait

[limber heath]

that doesn't sound right 😭 but idk

[unique sand]

he already has maniac so maybe change specialist to flak

oops

[limber heath]

ahh gotcha thx

[limber heath]

i guess i need to 2tap crushers anyway so not having carapace shouldn't affect that breakpoint

[teal needle]

I finally got a vs staff with surge on it and haven't gotten to use it yet today big sadge

[golden frigate]

it's not blue and exploded -> you are not blaze voiding -> you are playing wrong, please correct your gameplay and use a blaze void

[gray kelp]

has anyone tried a warp nexus/blazing spirit trauma staff build that focuses on proliferating soulblaze stacks? It looks like it could potentially be pretty ok

[unique sand]

but how reliable is surge though

[raw token]

apparently its good but i much prefer rending blast than blazing spirit

[unique sand]

crits arent that common right?

[raw token]

very reliable if you build for it, a lot on the right of the tree

[gray kelp]

surge is reliable now becasue of garunteed ranged crit near right keystone

[unique sand]

ahh

are crits calculated by the ball or by the enemy

[long wharf]

I'd still not use surge without warp nexus

[raw token]

ball

[viscid matrix]

i have a pistol on right now 😄 im in psykanium with my assail build

[unique sand]

ahh

[limber heath]

is there a good way to screenshot talent tree or do i have to pull out the paint

[raw token]

theres a mod to make it fit the screen

[long wharf]

The UI definitely needs a zoom function

[viscid matrix]

Windowskey + Shift + S for snip tool

[limber heath]

okay well i don't wanna install the mod rn but i'll keep that in mind

[gray kelp]

surge also has cursed tech because the 2nd ball doesnt fire immediately so you can flex on the poxwalker you missed by a 5 degree angle and obliterate them with surge proc

[limber heath]

ye ik but i can't fit the whole thing into one snip :(

[long wharf]

It's not a second Projectile

[unique sand]

what should i pair with surge on a vs staff

[neat summit]

Snap a snip

[raw token]

it is

[golden frigate]

problem still stands, please only use the blaze void you were given by the office, thanks

[unreal tapir]

i see people post a lot about the dueling sword. is that just the go to psyker melee? force sword looks pretty cool too

[long wharf]

I've never seen a second projectile

[gray kelp]

jsat made a video and part of it showcased voidstrike surge. it's a 2nd projectile

its just kinda hard to notice

[viscid matrix]

there is a mod to reduce the size of tree, this is 40%

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/214

[raw token]

then how do you explain that you can shoot at one enemy then flick to another and hit it with the second projectile?

[golden frigate]

You can also R cancel out of the surge proc and waste it entirely

[long wharf]

Well, alright then

[limber heath]

is it toggleable because that looks kinda cursed LOL

[royal granite]

the force swords are all fine, but duelling sword is broken right now, doing way more damage than it's supposed to

[viscid matrix]

is it? or is the change to rend and penetration making it really good

[unique sand]

is it all the dueling swords or just a few of them

[golden frigate]

just the mk IV I think

[unique sand]

cause i was testing it and the charge attacks completely ignore armor

[gray kelp]

mk4 is the one that stab spams and has good single target

[raw token]

mkv is good for movement mkiv is good for damage

[unique sand]

only thing i couldnt pierce is the bulwark shield

[spice veldt]

yeah preferably you have something like BB, trauma, void, etc. to stagger them or ignore their shield

[viscid matrix]

doesnt quite ignore, but if you get rend it will

[unique sand]

ah welp i only have a mk4 so i guess im shanking a few evil ogryns

[spice veldt]

you can always play in melee and there's a deterministic stagger with the duelling swords with a special headshot when bulwarks swing

but melee combat with bulwarks is sooo annoying

[unreal tapir]

also how is smite vs assail? they both sound cool

[half turtle]

no worries just dodge left and set a timer

[viscid matrix]

Assail is very good for damage, Smite is very good for Stun locking enemies in a room

[half turtle]

maybe go read a book

[pallid smelt]

This a good roll>?

[unique sand]

smite has a bug where it doesent consume peril right now, but its random i think

sometimes it consumes sometimes it dosent. i dont know the conditions

[neat summit]

Empowered psionics triggers that

[viscid matrix]

yes, now try and get Hand Cannon blessing

[unique sand]

ah

[raw token]

if you have a psionix proc it doesnt

[half turtle]

lol it's pretty minor but you can free-prime (i.e. by fullcharging with rmb) bb with empowered psionics rn and it's really nice qol

[twin salmon]

man, all those people coming back make auric malestrom feel like dante must die

surge/mk4 dueling sword/assail

[royal granite]

i think every other class probably hates us right now

[twin salmon]

oh, yeah

assail is fucking insane

[neat summit]

They should 😉

[twin salmon]

nothing else comes close

like,legit

you cant outdps this

[viscid matrix]

nah, Ogryns dont hate

[spice veldt]

we are the new autopistol vets

[royal granite]

that's true

[twin salmon]

its even worse bro

[royal granite]

ogryns are chill

[teal needle]

Ogryn is so fun rn

[twin salmon]

autopistol had ammo

[unique barn]

yeah its broken atm lol

[half turtle]

i really don't like assail even though the damage is stupid

i just don't like the feel

[twin salmon]

i'd love smite if it actually did what it says it does

[royal granite]

assail scratches my wizard itch

[twin salmon]

''big damage at the end of cast''

ticks for 20

ok

[royal granite]

that sounds like a STI

[raw token]

skill issue

[neat summit]

I’m still big on BB + Empowered Psionics. It’s my solo carry build for Damnation in pubs.

[main ice]

Anyone got an assail build to share?

[twin salmon]

the thing about bb now

[cold oasis]

assail, bubble, warp charges

[twin salmon]

why would you use it when surge/voidstrike exists?

[cold oasis]

you don't need anything else

[half turtle]

i literally haven't run anything else other than empowered psionics BB + trauma since the patch dropped, except one game with assail and void

[twin salmon]

it's literally a dead blitz slot

[unique barn]

right left left

[unique sand]

should i do assail with emp psionics or with disrupt destiny

[cold oasis]

BB is passable with EP

[neat summit]

Because I prefer my fire staff

[vestal fulcrum]

LOS not required, you are free to pay attention to anything else, other than your target.

[cold oasis]

Warp charges

[unique barn]

right right left if you're ok with high peril

[twin salmon]

surge does exactly the same thing now without wasting a blitz slot on bb

[unique sand]

warp siphon?

[cold oasis]

whatever gives you warp charges :V

bottom left

[viscid matrix]

you dont get warp charges on Brain Rupture/Brain Burst anymore

its just guarenteed on elite/specialist kill

[unique sand]

ah thanks

[cold oasis]

then it's a zig zag left to right

[cold oasis]

we're talking assail :p

[unique barn]

I cant see any build that doesnt use bottom left

[viscid matrix]

ahh

[cold oasis]

Warp charges is simply op as fuck now

[vestal fulcrum]

Surge has like 5m range - I don't know how will you reach distant threats with it

5m is an exaggeration, don't quote me on that, but it's short

[viscid matrix]

Gunker, works pretty well

[cold oasis]

Fucking hell, do not use EP on Assail

[half turtle]

hmm i basically run bb because trauma is my fav staff

[vestal fulcrum]

Also, Surge has wonky targeting

[cold oasis]

the peril generator is REALLY noticeable for assail

[vestal fulcrum]

BR targets exactly what I want if I point my cursor correctly

[twin salmon]

bro, i tested surge in psykhanium

[viscid matrix]

why not? its free Assail charges plus 50 extra base damage

[twin salmon]

surge can reach targets up to 25 metres away

i often use it to remove snipers

since most maps are really tight

[raw token]

wdym

[ornate hamlet]

With this build, how effective is it on monstros?

[unique barn]

I guess its more tanky

[cold oasis]

it's rarely up honestly, and the -6% peril and damage you get from it really makes it

I mean, you can REALLY see the difference between 6 warp charges and none

[viscid matrix]

start killing elites then

[teal needle]

[torn bison]

does Disrupt Destiny not work in Psykanium? I've been in here for a while and can't see the marker

[viscid matrix]

it doesnt

[torn bison]

epic ty

[unique barn]

Losing 30% quell speed on bottom left is crazy alone though imo

[spice veldt]

destiny doesn't mark enemies if invisibility is on

assuming you have creature spawner installed

[ornate hamlet]

I do this instead...

[raw token]

not bad if your staff has high quell speed

[viscid matrix]

that only matters if you want to go to 0 peril

[neat summit]

Destiny I like on assail + revolver and that’s about it

[unique barn]

quell speed = more damage

[cold oasis]

The fuck are you not running the two assail bonus for?

[raw token]

not really

[ornate hamlet]

Because I dont need it.

[cold oasis]

Yeah cool

[spice veldt]

quell speed is nice to have as a bonus

[viscid matrix]

just a single tap of quell drops it by 15%, and can do 1 of anything easily, just live at 90% almost all the time

[spice veldt]

but if I'm not going for warp charges, I would never go out of my way to get it

[raw token]

also blessings and talents rely on high peril to deal more warp damage

[unique barn]

fair, but the bottom left tree is also extremely powerful

[ornate hamlet]

It is because I use an unstable power sword with an exorcism, I can keep my ultup at maximum longer, doing more dmg overall to all enemies cleaving them like nothing.

[viscid matrix]

Sitting at 90% peril all of the time gives you almost max of these buffs plus Warp nexus

[teal needle]

Quell is so fast now it barely matters

[viscid matrix]

sure it is, but we have had warp siphon for almost a year, playing the new stuff is more fun

[unique barn]

nod

[cold oasis]

Yeah cool man, don't worry. Please just if you see a Daiug in game tell me it's you so i can change game ❤️

[ornate hamlet]

Yeah, same for you. I dont want psykers whose heads literall explode because they cant keep up with my dps.

[viscid matrix]

after playing with it, SoulStealer and Perilous Combustion top left of tree are better than the 2 nodes in the middle

[unique barn]

I just turned into an assail afk-in-brain psyker this week b/c I got some beers in and chilling with the bros 😄

[royal granite]

im about to blow your mind

[spice veldt]

god bless perilous combustion

wrack & ruin but you remove it's two downsides

[radiant lance]

Is this... Decent at least?

[raw token]

think he was referring to specifically my build lol

[radiant lance]

Also is it just me or does Autopistol doesn't feel that good on Psyker anymore?

[royal granite]

ah ok

i'll just sink into the earth then

[ornate hamlet]

I dont use those because I dont use warp in my build.

[unique barn]

pretty nice!

[unique barn]

i mean if assail wasnt so good..

[royal granite]

i misunderstood

[viscid matrix]

all blitzes, force sword special and staves count as warp attacks

[ornate hamlet]

Its great on gunpsyker.

[radiant lance]

I mean even compared to like Revolver

[ornate hamlet]

I use neither of those in my current gunpsyker build.

[viscid matrix]

fair

[languid tusk]

now im curious to know what you use on your gunpsyker

[radiant lance]

I tried it but kinda felt underwhelming. What blessings do you run on it?

[viscid matrix]

scroll up to see thier tree and futher up again to see mine

[cold oasis]

Autopistol is better now simply because there aren't that many people running actual guns

Because fuck me if it's a garbage weapon that just sucks every ammo in the game

[radiant lance]

Huh?

[ornate hamlet]

Im using a sword that needs a blessing change, but it has the important one:

[neat summit]

55 bullets per second go brrrr

[ornate hamlet]

and this

[viscid matrix]

i prefer autoguns to lasguns

[cold oasis]

Autopistol is a blackhole for every ammo in the map. Before the patch people actually used guns a lot more

[ornate hamlet]

I need the lasgun for the headshot kills.

if im not in melee

[viscid matrix]

my shitty autogun right now, need to get a better one 😄

[unique barn]

Just like, psyker weakness used to be horde (months ago), Illisi helped, but there was a debate around staffs.. now assail is just delete, so you you kinda have to run surge (which imo was always great), and the changes are actually a buff for carapace etc.

[radiant lance]

Weren't we talking about autopistol?

[ornate hamlet]

Maybe, I dont remember. Let me show you my autopistol.

[radiant lance]

Wdym you have to run Surge? I strongly disagree

[ornate hamlet]

Which is garbage and it works fine for what I need from it.

[unique barn]

Surge is the best complement to Assail

[dense grove]

just joined into a 3 vet team

[viscid matrix]

Void, Trauma and Surge are all amazing against carapace enmies

[ornate hamlet]

I use it for horde clear.

[radiant lance]

I mean sure but Assail is also great without it

[cold oasis]

Surge or Void are both fine

[viscid matrix]

Purga is good too, sicne assail covers purga weakness of long range

[soft gale]

So are they gonna fix the with Unlimited power⚡

[cold oasis]

whatever you want to have fun with they're both great now

[viscid matrix]

nothing wrong with it

[unique barn]

Surge stagger takes the win imo

[radiant lance]

If you want a horde clear weapon why aren't you just using Purg?

[soft gale]

You right but @viscid matrix

[viscid matrix]

its a gunker build

[ornate hamlet]

Because it doesnt work with my gunpsyker build. I want no peril generation other than my ult.

[cold oasis]

Why not just eat even more ammo to not use a melee weapon

[unique barn]

lol

[soft gale]

But I can use it without gaining any peril @viscid matrix

[raw token]

which blitz do you use then

[ornate hamlet]

who?

[ornate hamlet]

I dont.

Needle, unbuffed, only as an emergency.

[viscid matrix]

😦 its a pitty that Warp Rupture sucks and doesnt kill trash at 100%

[radiant lance]

Ngl I don't think ammo should be used for horde clear which is trivially easy anyway

[unique barn]

yeah its crap

[ornate hamlet]

Which is why I don't use that gun anymore, and I use the lasgun.

I never run out of ammo.

and my sword cleaves them just fine

[radiant lance]

Yeah exactly

[ornate hamlet]

Every time the horde is up, y ult is ready.

[neat hearth]

Anyone got any tips on how to use Smite?
I'm trying to use it but it feels kinda garbo given how quickly it racks up peril and how little damage it does w/ barely any synergy with anything else

[viscid matrix]

its so dogshite 😦 was hoping it would actually do 200 damage against unarmored by default

[ornate hamlet]

And even then, I don't need the ult to be active for it to drigger.

In order for it to trigger, I just have to make weakspot kills.

I just use the alt to make sure that I dont miss the proc.

[unique barn]

sad thing is on my build its that or like first level toughness ability or +15 tough 🙄

[ornate hamlet]

Because it ups my damage by like 60%?

Not including crit bonuses and chance?

[radiant lance]

What did you mean by this? Why would people in general use guns less?

[barren shale]

Hey Y'all I'm back after the overhaul what is the general takes on these abilities? Smite is shite, I had the same experience, Seer's Gaze just seems like not even close to worth it honestly maybe I'm missing something

[ornate hamlet]

I will say that scriers gaze with the lasgun shooting a beast of nurgle in the back does satisfying chunks of health really fast.

[ornate hamlet]

You're missing something.

[barren shale]

Yeah I haven't tried it with Gun Psyker maybe that is a better spot for it, Purgatus staff didn't really get much out of it

[viscid matrix]

Smite is amazing at its job, as a tool to stunlock a room
Seer's Gaze is amazing for when you have melee or gun out

[crisp yacht]

is 380 still highest rating on grey weapons?

[unique barn]

ya

[cold oasis]

Because between Assail, Bubble, Taunt, Smoke Nades, Relic there are a lot of ways to counter a wall of shooters that we didn't have pre-patch were, if you remember, it was mostly using lasgun and hiding

[neat hearth]

How do you keep smite up reliably?

I keep having to quell due to all the peril it generates

[viscid matrix]

empower lets you channel forever for free 😄

[barren shale]

Yeah idk, seems like a very mid kind of CC compared to other roles who can do it, but hey man I've not tried it all that much

[neat hearth]

Excuse me what
THAT'S NOT ON THE TOOLTIP

[unique barn]

Smite is just fucking slow and un-dynamic in a team imo

[viscid matrix]

yep, we think tis a bug or FS forgot to put it on there

[neat hearth]

I'm trying to make a smite + barrier combo build tbh
Or I could get weird with it and go Smite + Scriers

[viscid matrix]

locking down a horde of crushers, maulers and bulwharks for your squad is useful

[unique barn]

Use a surge staff

[neat hearth]

Why not Smite + Voidstrike

[cold oasis]

smite has a single problem: the infinite lag it causes otehr people that are in melee to the mobs you're stunning

[unique barn]

assail is more dps on shit, surge is more precise on carapace

[olive ember]

Smite is great until they actually need to do something themselves

Then the smite psykers crumble because idk why all the smite psyker randos I’ve gotten can’t kill a single poxwalker once they aren’t smiting

[unique barn]

All of these arguments change in a week when they nerf Assail....

[viscid matrix]

forever smite while empowered, you use dodge to move around quickly

[neat hearth]

Wait so if you use Scriers + Smite do you just become an electric grill

[olive ember]

Lol no

[neat hearth]

Darn

[raw token]

once they fix the bug i guess warp siphon will be the best one

[olive ember]

Scrier builds up peril by itself

[slow raven]

too bad warp rider is broken and only gives 8%

wouldnt run it personally

[slim lily]

Is this good?

[olive ember]

Eh empowered shit will still be good

Assail just needs a capacity or recharge nerf

[raw token]

im talking about for only smite

[unique barn]

shite 😉

[olive ember]

Oh yeah

There’s fucking no reason to run empowered for smite without the bug

[slim lily]

😦

[unique barn]

It's decent jk, just need 4s these days

[viscid matrix]

looks like i do 290 on a void strike primary with 0 peril, and 345 with 99 peril

seems to be working to me

[unique barn]

Man I logged into my other 30s and the gear is lol (haven't played in 4 months)

[royal granite]

ow my thumb

[viscid matrix]

my thumb is like that lol

[slim lily]

So is it actually good or now owo

[royal granite]

same but it don't look like that in gloves

[viscid matrix]

Even with gloves it does that

[viscid matrix]

Swap sustained for blazing

[royal granite]

the bend just looks too sharp in the game

[unique barn]

you are maybe a legit psyker irl

[naive imp]

How do people have damage numbers?

[royal granite]

better angle

[unique barn]

mod

nexus

[raw token]

there are damage numbers in the training area

[unique barn]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/22?tab=description

[naive imp]

Can I get the damage number mod and also the short talent tree? Does anyone have those?

[naive imp]

Thank you!!!

[viscid matrix]

in the Meatgrinder of the Psykanium you see damage numbers normaly

[unique barn]

yep

[royal granite]

scornboard

[unique barn]

yeah :/

[long wharf]

Go to nexusmods.com for Darktide mods

[viscid matrix]

#psyker-class message

[naive imp]

There’s a small talent tree mod too I think

[unique barn]

but if you're a psyker you say, I cc'd shit fuck off!

[naive imp]

Literal. Legend

[long wharf]

You'll need to download Vortex, too

[viscid matrix]

vortex?

[long wharf]

NexusMods' mod manager

[raw token]

you dont have to

[viscid matrix]

i dont have that

[limber heath]

does the short talent tree give you the option to make it big

[long wharf]

It does make some things easier

[limber heath]

without like uninstalling the mod

[long wharf]

But I guess you don't have to

[viscid matrix]

just these 3 will take care of that

[spice veldt]

it has a slider to scale how compressed the tree is

so you can always revert back

[limber heath]

neat

[viscid matrix]

i sit at 40% to see entire tree

[slow raven]

are you sure you're looking at the right numbers? i just tested it again, shooting at a mutant's back for consistency. 152 at 0%, 165 at 95%

and make sure you're not looking at a crit

[fierce crest]

Skill issue

[ornate hamlet]

I get the feeling that people don't understand that if you make headshot kills often on the horde or the specialists, that you can have 100% uptime of your buffs.

[olive ember]

Simply get more flexible thumbs

[ornate hamlet]

When a boss shows up, thats when you hit "F" to engage the ult on demand as your headshot kills drop, quickly.

[sterile saddle]

bruuuu.. I'm so stoked. Just got untouchable 😎

[sterile saddle]

nice pen

[naive imp]

How much damage does assail do? Can someone check if that’s 30? Does the damage scale with levels or just start off at x value and it’s always that apart from perks/talents?

[fierce crest]

Thanks it's for a drawing tablet

[limber heath]

100 base, 150 with empowered. scales with stuff that buffs your damage (according to the game, not sure if its been tested)

[viscid matrix]

you right, it should be hitting 182/183

[fierce crest]

counts as ranged damage

[naive imp]

Strange because I had a wep on ogryn that said 273 damage and it would take 1-2 swings to kill stuff. But assail was 1 shotting.

[teal needle]

Assail can hit for like 1k, damage buff stacking seems a little wonky

[slow raven]

hope it's fixed soon. i guess 8% might still be worth it since it doesnt take that many points to path to it

[viscid matrix]

i always path that way for the 10% hp above it

[exotic turtle]

what should i take?

[naive imp]

Is the listed damage on weapons not what they actually hit for?

[viscid matrix]

Flak or Maniac

Maniac are both Flamers, Trapper, Rager and Muti

Flak are armoured ragers, bombers and all the armoured gunners

[royal granite]

damn people in here got thumbs

[exotic turtle]

ty

[raw token]

wish i could say the same about my teammates

[olive ember]

Poxwalkers have 300 hp

Assail has headshot multiplier + crit + psyker has natural damage stacking

[viscid matrix]

so with this weapon, i was hitting a Mutie in the back for 152 on a primary hit with this tree

[gray kelp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1135943940957274262.webp?size=44&quality=lossless

[silent wave]

how are all of the different duelling swords? I never really messed around with them

[royal granite]

hm

[cold oasis]

mk4 and 5 are great

[royal granite]

seems assail with empowered psionics bounces way more

[viscid matrix]

fully charged Voidstrike in mutie back with 17% peril

[ornate hamlet]

I just checked the damage, the Scriers gaze buff with the Disrupt Destiny buff, when shooting Dreg Gunners in the head to test the damage increase, I gaining 300 dmg from 490 on headshots, to 790 on headshot hits. While enjoying toughness DR and replinishment from other perks for your increased crit chance.

[viscid matrix]

managed to get 6 assail hits on a normal assail

[vague garnet]

So illisi still good?

[sharp kraken]

I'm so glad voidstrike good now

[viscid matrix]

for clearing multiple enemeis at a time yes

[sharp kraken]

But is it me or did the other staff users just completely vanish? Played 25 games never seen a flame psyker

[neat hearth]

Voidstrike has always been good

[main ice]

what makes it good?

[sharp kraken]

Never seen an impactful voidstrike user before

[neat hearth]

headshots penetrate multiple enemies if charged up
well, it generally penetrates enemies, but with a huge hitbox on its projectile it becomes easy peasy to get headshots with

plus the fact that it also deals splash damage every time it penetrates or explodes

[ornate hamlet]

This is also a good gun to use with scriers gaze for all of the crit synergy it has: but you gotta be accurate.

[main ice]

ah, I see, thanks!

[viscid matrix]

can 2shot anything

if you crit you can 1 tap crushers

[raw token]

it oneshots with surge proc

[viscid matrix]

consistantly 1 tap crushers with the 5 weakpoint guranteed crit, and surge blessing

[twilit slate]

Don't forget the glorious sound of meat being crushed.

[viscid matrix]

the best thing, Brain Rupture count as 2 weakpoint hits when you use it

[unreal tapir]

does charging the lightning staff do anything or are you just supposed to spam it

[viscid matrix]

full charge surge staff can do like 1200 damage

[unreal tapir]

oh okay

[obtuse moth]

That requires a critical, which they already mentioned oneshots…

[urban orbit]

Surge staff is just a close range brain pop now

[obtuse moth]

It’s much faster and has better cc. Does it also chain once?

[urban orbit]

I think so one sec

[unreal tapir]

i was going to try the voidstrike staff but surge just seems better

[urban orbit]

So Surge does chain but doesnt do full damage to second target like before it does half so it's not great for hordes

[viscid matrix]

best thing with surge staff, is edge 100% and tap quell between each secondary charge, you will never explode as long as you tap quell

[viscid matrix]

Surge stafff chain is garbage damage, just the cc that matters for that part

[obtuse moth]

Voidstrike is like 60% more damage. Surge can’t headshot or cleave. It is hitscan though and can cc mutants

[viscid matrix]

of course, they over buffed void, it is absurdly strong, nothing can compete with its damage

[teal needle]

Even assail feels pretty puny next to void rn yeah haha

[unreal tapir]

also for those achievements that say use brainburst to do x do the new blitz skills like assail count?

[viscid matrix]

nope, only Brain Burst and Brain Rupture

[steel flame]

Honestly I prefer laspistol since you lose a lot of scrier time to the reload with revolver

[white cedar]

Today I know that Brainburst proc 2 stacks of True Aim while charging

[sullen bobcat]

Seems like a weird build to start on left side and go hard right

[raw tangle]

Anyone got any tips on how to complete warp battery penance

[raw token]

do it prepatch

[viscid matrix]

why would you not? free brainburst on hit with gun shots

[obtuse moth]

I wonder if the stagger from completing half the charge counts as one of the headshots

[viscid matrix]

looks like that is what causes it

[obtuse moth]

Oh is it verified? Did someone half charge brain burst 4x in a row repeatedly?

[cinder moon]

voidstrike with full bb/soulblaze build is incredible lol

everything is on fire

everything dies

[viscid matrix]

im screwing around in psykanium now, and it does exactly what you suggested 😄

[obtuse moth]

lol nice! Thanks

[twilit slate]

I'd be curious how much value you'd be getting from that if you're using it primarily to get stacks toward a free crit. Said value obviously increases the worse a shot you are.

[white oar]

hello my fellow psyker gamers

[viscid matrix]

its a free stack every time it activates, and with fast shooting guns, it activates on cooldown

[white oar]

would anyone be willing to assist me in getting malleus monstrum

[unique barn]

Hey does nexus damage mod still work?

[white cedar]

half charge count as 1 porc and in the end is 1 proc(not the damage part) but right click not proc any

[viscid matrix]

the crit one?

[unique barn]

damage reports

[viscid matrix]

ohh, not sure

[unique barn]

like vermintide

hmm

wonder if it's updated for 13

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/22?tab=description

[sullen bobcat]

It works fine with 13

[unique barn]

yeah? nice

i guess mine is fucked

been a while

[twilit slate]

The mechanics of it weren't in question.

[digital narwhal]

Mmmm yes

[subtle flame]

has anyone found a fix for the game crashing on startup from launcher?

[snow coral]

are you running mods?

[subtle flame]

nop

[steep frost]

Can smite crit?

[digital narwhal]

NIXIE?!

[subtle flame]

AVERY?!!

[digital narwhal]

[subtle flame]

WHAT THE FUCK

[digital narwhal]

Man

I keep running into friends in random Discord servers

[ivory heath]

psykers might be too op

imma psyker main but god damn they really can make it so outside of literally just bosses other ppl dont even get to play the game lol

[teal needle]

Buff psykers nerf vets

[ivory heath]

i dont think they need a nerf but everyone else needs a massive buff

[quasi pier]

So we can all just run around and see who clicks faster?

[ivory heath]

the amount of times ive walked into a room on damnation and cleared it before a team mate has even been able to swing or shoot is actually ridiculous lol

[ivory heath]

idk i guess not but holy shit theres a huuuge gap in power rn

[stuck bridge]

https://i.imgur.com/TVmbd6y.jpeg

any opinions

im enjoying surge a lot

assail for horde, surge for taking out elites

[ivory heath]

right one is better overall but you still wanna fish for a staff with lvl 4 blessings, too bad too cause the one on the right is pretty damn good

[white cedar]

left one you can change Barrage to Nexus and 8% to 25% Flag

[stuck bridge]

i hate when it's too close!!!!!!

[white cedar]

Surge don't hit weak spot ._.

[stuck bridge]

i could swap the barrage for the nexus

[ivory heath]

oooh im stupid i dyslexiad that and read the perks backwards

they correct left is better

[unreal tapir]

both surge and assail seem like theyre good at killing elites and hordes. is there any reason to use one over the other for those?

[white cedar]

Flak / Calapace either is good

[still hearth]

Surge doesn't kill horde at all

So idk what that's about

[stuck bridge]

surge is good for dumping on elites

is what im saying

assail for hordes

[white cedar]

surge is only for single target now

[stuck bridge]

surge chains to 1 other target

[still hearth]

Yeah for 20% damage or something

If even that much

[teal needle]

2 other targets even. Damage is completely negligible tho

[long wharf]

There's no good reason for the surge staff to have reduced damage on any target now

[stuck bridge]

agreed but that's how it be

i still think it's fine

[still hearth]

It still does too little damage

[long wharf]

There wasn't a good reason before, but still isn't

[still hearth]

Just hit 1 target and delete it

[long wharf]

Void does a better job of deleting now

[still hearth]

And it hits a lot of targets with its cleave as well

Surge is just weird

[white cedar]

Void is better but let John enjoy the Surge for now XD

[long wharf]

Yup. Surge staff isn't in a good place now

[stuck bridge]

im not expecting the void staff to stay the way it is

[still hearth]

I mean its fun to use

It's not even bad, its just worse than Voidstrike which is sad.

If we had old Voidstrike still then Surge would've been a solid option

[stuck bridge]

imo this is the most fun surge has been

[still hearth]

For sure

[stuck bridge]

the old stunning stuff was unbelievably boring

[still hearth]

Smite is really boring rn but I bring it because it's the only thing that will save some runs

But people who just smite 24/7 hurt me

[stuck bridge]

smite has a cool kill effect but wow it takes along time to get there

[spice oar]

Yeah, atleast with the new smite it feels nice when enemies start popping and your ogryn winds up a big hit

[urban orbit]

I enjoy smite a lot personally

But I like making it so the AI cant fuckin do shit

[still hearth]

That's great sometimes

But a lot of the times it doesn't help

[unique barn]

Like there're always 2 conversations going on with Darktide, what you enjoy, and what is min/max

[white cedar]

Pink lightning is the best in visual

[urban orbit]

It saves more runs than hurts it

[unique barn]

play whatever you want lol

[still hearth]

Not when Smite users make my games less fun

[unique barn]

hah

[still hearth]

[spice oar]

Nah cause then what will we talk about? How fun the game is? Come on now

[stuck bridge]

i was just askin what staff was better

[unique barn]

find a 4 man in channel below 😮

[unique barn]

lol

[white cedar]

Left one (if you mean the picture in the first place)

[spice oar]

Void overall, but surge is still good and I use it in my palatine build

[urban orbit]

WDYM?! Why you so mad about it it's just a game and people play it how they want

[long wharf]

Smite needs to do more damage when charged

[unique barn]

but objectively it doesn't matter til like 5, auric

and team

[long wharf]

Surge staff needs to be re-evaluated

[still hearth]

Yeah I play this game to have fun not to watch dummies dance around while lightning man stands in a corner expecting me to kill everything.

[spice oar]

Tbf i get what she means cause I dislike seeing AND hearing the shards kill everything

[unique barn]

lol

[long wharf]

I love Assail

[still hearth]

Assail is also pretty unfun tbh

[unique barn]

I use a max wounds explode build

[urban orbit]

Just dont play psyker then

[still hearth]

I ran it so much but playing with it its just fucking boring

[urban orbit]

Or do only headpop

[still hearth]

No the issue is

Other people using it

Makes the games less fun

[urban orbit]

OH SO I CANT CONTROL OTHERS CHOICES SO GAME UNFUN

gotcha

[still hearth]

[spice oar]

Don't get me wrong I don't care enough for it to ruin my game but sometimes its like old vet stealing kills remember that lmao

[still hearth]

Okay whatever you say bro

[unique barn]

I mean find a 4 man hardcore and then when they suck, go mental on min/max

but general psyker chat, its kinda pointless

[spice oar]

Dumb question, does the kamikaze scale with wounds/health?

[unique barn]

no lol

[spice oar]

Imagine

[keen harbor]

assail voidstrike shield feels comfortable in hi-int ST

[unique barn]

it was sorta funny a while back because its the only class that can reset health

[urban orbit]

Do you run disrupt with assail?! Cause I can't figure that out

[still hearth]

You don't run disrupt destiny

That's the trick to it

[unique barn]

highest dps i can get atm (obv depends on diff, but like 5+), is assail, surge, whatever melee

[keen harbor]

where is disrupt on the tree?

[still hearth]

Bottom right keystone

[keen harbor]

oh, that... it's bugged apparently

[still hearth]

Very much so

[keen harbor]

also needs a buff

[still hearth]

But ,what isn't on Psyker

[unique barn]

assail, warp charges

crit build