psyker-class

[spice veldt]

AUGGHGHGH I DIDN'T NOTICE THAT SLAUGHTERER WAS THE LOCKED BLESSING

[zealous sierra]

Wish I was lucky with my hammer

[spice veldt]

be a psyker main now

[zealous sierra]

Mhm, could swap between nexus and deflector

[plucky flax]

My illisi only has 70 finesse.

[spice veldt]

i have a feeling that you like to remember things from their images given that you accidentally said nexus instead of unstable power

[plucky flax]

[spice veldt]

mines is 72% finesse

get owned

[lunar hollow]

are you okay

you went full mr krabs

[plucky flax]

79 first target and I think 75 or 76 damage.

[spice veldt]

I am a perfectly and healthy adult

[plucky flax]

So still high just finesse is a tiny bit low.

[spice veldt]

I am mildly drunk since I'm taking a sip from a can every few minutes or so

[lunar hollow]

criminal

[zealous sierra]

Your not wrong

[plucky flax]

I like high mobility too cos illisi dodge distance is ass

[spice veldt]

warp nexus and unstable power having the exact same icon has made me double-take sometimes when I was looking over some footage absent-mindedly

[zealous sierra]

Can't get used to the deimos

Getting hit while dealing with 5 pox

lol

Not enough cleave

[spice veldt]

prob have to push some more, but yeah illisi is a lot easier to use

just spam the special and you're good to go

here are my results for the illisi combos

[hidden crystal]

Spamming anything tends to work, to be honest.

[plucky flax]

Just light spam you have slaughterer 4.

[spice veldt]

tldr: spamming the special is better than any other combo if you can afford the peril

[spice veldt]

🙂

god does not look kindly upon you

[hidden crystal]

Assuming, at least, that the horde is really dense.

[spice veldt]

true

[plucky flax]

Yeah only use specials on dense thicc bois

[spice veldt]

the special also has pretty good stagger which I like, and you can always swing your camera around to get the maximum surface area

[plucky flax]

Against <10 its too much buttons pressing.

[spice veldt]

dodging into a horde, getting good surface area, and then dying because I got surrounded

i think the margins on the numbers are pretty far enough that it's still good for >7 poxwalkers

but yeah I usually light spam once it gets that low

[hidden crystal]

Rapidly spamming lights, particularly with plenty of slaughterer stacks increasing your impact/stagger, can often work well to keep a thinner horde from having any opening to attack you.

[spice veldt]

or against spread-out shooters where a single light will one-shot shooters/stalkers

though with warp absorption, I find myself spamming the special a lot more, esp with a high warp res illisi

[zealous sierra]

Is there a move I should do with deflector

Like dodging 45 degrees

[spice veldt]

ye that's what I did when I used to use it

[zealous sierra]

Other than looking at the enemy obviously

[spice veldt]

dodge-sliding gives a lot of uptime for ranged i-frames and deflector covers you during the interim of your dodge-slides

[zealous sierra]

What's a good staff to use with the Illisi

So far only got a half baked purge and okish surge

And alot of deaths

[spice veldt]

I like Trauma as my staff to pair with the Illisi, if you're going for a melee focus

[plucky flax]

Surge, trauma

[spice veldt]

trauma is especially good for enabling you against ranged patrols

or to just outright kill them/thin them out if they're clumped enough

[plucky flax]

Deflector my beloved
https://youtube.com/watch?v=CYoalxaVzKA&feature=share8

[spice veldt]

true, deflector does provide the anti-shooter utility

[strong gulch]

Me with deflector

https://tenor.com/view/zoidberg-futurama-gif-8409553

[spice veldt]

with trauma/illisi, you can also afford to use Warp Absorption (lvl5) if you plan on playing aggressively

such a playstyle might take a bunch of deaths to get comfortable with though

though you are running deflector to save your ass if you do anything stupid

[hidden crystal]

Well - sometimes I just stand there and let them shoot. Kinetic Deflection and Quietitude as a combo translates to being able to channel incoming damage into toughness (and standing there rather than dodging means their target tracking stays locked on me rather swapping to anyone else).

[zealous sierra]

What feats

[spice veldt]

there's a lot of flexibility

warp unleashed and kinetic deflection would prob be my must-have picks if running trauma + deflector illisi

running surge has a slightly different set of options (wrack & ruin is the one that sticks in my mind)

[plucky flax]

For surge I use 313133

[zealous sierra]

I do have a habit of blowing myself up

So I use 2 instead of 1

Pysker definitely my worst class

[plucky flax]

Wrack and ruins

Never used it ever in a game

[spice veldt]

yeah I personally don't like it either

but it seems nice as an infinite cleave option

the pocket purgatus (except only when elites are around)

[zealous sierra]

What's the dump for trauma

warp or quell

[plucky flax]

It's hard cos I want all stats to be high.

[spice veldt]

damage is my preferred dumpstat

since I don't think it scales that much or affects many breakpoints

esp if you use perks to supplement it

[plucky flax]

My 3 main priorities are damage charge speed and radius for blaze trauma.

[zealous sierra]

It's nerf or nothing

[spice veldt]

but I am biased because trauma is my support weapon

[plucky flax]

Give red trauma staff that'll be so op

1s charge blasting for 400+ damage huge circle

[spice veldt]

I did have a mild convo about damage vs warp res/quell speed #psyker-class message, though my argument does fall apart when you consider battle meditation if you're using it to spam it into a horde (which I personally don't do because I think it spreads enemies out too much unless it's a chokepoint)

[spice veldt]

1 second charge time, +100% quell speed trauma

2.5m epicentre

I can dream

I can see it

GIB PLS

[plucky flax]

Bruh moment

It's easy top damage farm.

Just blast everything to gibs

[spice veldt]

for reference, 80% quell speed means we quell 12.31% peril per tick from 100% peril

100% quell speed means we quell 17.2% peril per tick from 100% peril

[zealous sierra]

attempt 1

[plucky flax]

Hrm then I think 1 quell tick to spam full charge?

[spice veldt]

a full charge is like 20% peril at 100% warp res?

i wonder if i have the stats screenshotted somewhere

[zealous sierra]

What perk I need?

[spice veldt]

18.75% peril for a 100% warp res trauma

I like +unarmoured for one-shotting dreg bruisers (450 hp)

+flak is my other preferred perk for the usual elites and dreg gunners

so VERY close to a full charge although there's basically no leeway

so I guess you still get 8/10ths of a full charge

which is still insanely good from a single quell

esp for making space in a jiffy

nerfing trauma's warp res would be how I would balance it once they go for it

[plucky flax]

100% warp resis full charge is 18.75%?

[spice veldt]

ye

[plucky flax]

And 100% quell is 17% per tick

So it's rip

[spice veldt]

in pepperoni

[plucky flax]

The 1 tick spam dream

[spice veldt]

oh wait

inner tranquility

[plucky flax]

Nah warp unleashed op

[spice veldt]

true true

[plucky flax]

You're always at high peril when using trauma anyway.

[spice veldt]

would make blaze trauma quite a bit better if you're quelling 1 tick for it

[plucky flax]

I do full charge blast on blaze trauma.

[spice veldt]

mmm

so 2 ticks required regardless

very sad

[plucky flax]

I don't get people who rely on the burn of 6 stacks

With a high quell I can quell 2 ticks and full charge.

[spice veldt]

yeah in my mind it would also be better to get a full charge

because of the quadratic scaling of the circular area

though I haven't tested or done the math to say this or that

[plucky flax]

Too bad my current staff has 61% quell so I have to quell 3 ticks to full charge.

[spice veldt]

very sad

i send my condolences to you and your staff

[plucky flax]

I have better modifier staff but it has unarmoured.

I prefer flak

[spice veldt]

what are your preferred perks? I assume that flak is one of them

[plucky flax]

Flak crit chance

[spice veldt]

oh right crit chance

hmm yeah the soulblaze would prob finish them off

and you're spamming it anyways

[zealous sierra]

soul blaze on trauma?

[plucky flax]

With flak it takes 1 less full charge to kill a mauler.

That's very valuable to me.

Also if you get lucky with 2 crits you can 2 shots a mauler.

3 full charge with flak vs 4 full charge without. That's a big break point imo.

[spice veldt]

op

[zealous sierra]

I feel like I'm reading a foreign message

[spice veldt]

i'm not too concerned about maulers on my flurry trauma since they get knocked around anyways by the trauma

[zealous sierra]

[spice veldt]

trauma has the Blazing Spirit blessing which inflicts Soulblaze on a critical hit

it's no purgatus, but Trauma's AoE is nothing to scoff at

[plucky flax]

With 4 warp charges and high peril. 2 crits with take the mauler to around <10% hp and the burn will finish it off.

3 full charge without any peril or warp charge with flak.

When I found out that trauma ignored armour type rending flurry build lost appeal to me.

Cos fuck the teammates

[hidden crystal]

I dunno, I don't find any of them appealing, to be honest. That guy over there keeps talking to himself.

[spice veldt]

focused channeling is a mandatory blessing for how I play, so I have to find another blessing that can stand on its own

[spice veldt]

the seer psyker is having insightful conversations to which the likes of you can't appreciate

[lunar hollow]

psychically bombarding me with "DON'T"s every time we come across a barrel

[young ridge]

Setting barrels on fire is my GODDAMN RIGHT

[spice veldt]

yeah i'm rather fond of NOT DYING; thank you very much

[spice veldt]

this is the type of person that I'm dealing with, for context https://streamable.com/ewyzxb

[spice veldt]

shame, no reasons for me to murder you for

[young ridge]

Better get away from the barrel then

[zealous sierra]

I need that graphics

Gib

What mod is that graphics one

[plucky flax]

Get a potato and use it as your gaming device. That's how you achieve graphics.

[young ridge]

A potato in this economy?

[lunar hollow]

and u deal with me enthusiastically ❤️

[spice veldt]

in user_settings.config (located at %AppData%\Fatshark\Darktide\user_settings.config), change these lines

[zealous sierra]

Jesus

[spice veldt]

the game is fairly CPU-constrained, so these settings may not change the performance much for you

[zealous sierra]

Yea

Trying to cut down on cpu

[spice veldt]

I mostly do it to cut down on the heat generated

[zealous sierra]

My 4.2 ghz is dying

[spice veldt]

since I'm running on an ultrathin laptop

oh I suppose it's time for me to post the image of my setup

[young ridge]

I'm scared

[spice veldt]

you have stepped beyond the gate of no return

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1133928123868663828/rn_image_picker_lib_temp_1a6a056c-46bb-40d5-a06c-d77bce4f5a63.png

[young ridge]

Man's sitting in a freezer or something

[spice veldt]

i personally don't think it's that bad but some people have a reaction to it

[young ridge]

[plucky flax]

My laptop arriving tomorrow.

[spice veldt]

ooh new computer?

[young ridge]

Idk if this is impressive or tech heresy

[zealous sierra]

Is that a processor sitting outside of the laptop?

[spice veldt]

as your travel computer or the replacement for your main ocmputer

[zealous sierra]

With a fan on it?

[spice veldt]

nah that metal box is like one of those candy boxes

[zealous sierra]

??

[spice veldt]

and the beige thing under it is a tray

or do you mean the fan right under my laptop

[plucky flax]

Travel gaming laptop.

I have a pc at home.

[spice veldt]

smh

[zealous sierra]

Are your fingers not burning?

[plucky flax]

4080 and 13900hx whatever on the laptop

[spice veldt]

i can put out some real fire with my hands, but i'm using an external keyboard/mouse

I have a triple monitor setup

the laptop is pretty good; just that it struggles with tasks like gaming

[lunar hollow]

you learned this skill from staring at the sun, i presume?

[spice veldt]

yes

so what of it huh

[lunar hollow]

wowie i should do it too then

[young ridge]

It's on life support

[spice veldt]

i'm sure that if you interviewed my laptop, it would respond with praises of its own health

[lunar hollow]

this is one of the most schizophrenic things i've ever seen you say

[young ridge]

I'll be right over

[spice veldt]

i probably should've taken a picture with all of my monitors hooked up to my laptop

since I unplug the monitors whenever I'm gaming

my housemates have made many a remarks on it

[spice veldt]

anthropormiizngioansofsf your laptop is a perfectly normal thing to do

[lunar hollow]

can u not type to me when ur in the middle of having a stroke

thank u

[young ridge]

Maybe it's a german word

[lunar hollow]

this is NOT what you said

[young ridge]

Yeah that's not what you wrote

[spice veldt]

it's pretty close

[lunar hollow]

anthropormiizngioansofsf

[spice veldt]

about 99% accurate

alright you god damned pedants

[spice veldt]

98% accurate

[lunar hollow]

WHEN YOU SEARCH IT

[spice veldt]

i'll concede no more

yeah and google search doesn't get everything right does it

[lunar hollow]

IT DOESN'T EVEN SHOW UP AS AN AUTOCORRECTED DICTIONARY RESULT

you swung and missed so hard the bat flew out of your hands and knocked someone out in the stands

[spice veldt]

what's this then

HUH

[young ridge]

Maybe the bat did that om it's own

[spice veldt]

that's what i thought

[lunar hollow]

ansoff

[young ridge]

Like if we anthropormiizngioansofsf it

[lunar hollow]

AND IT'S ALREADY SHOWING RESULTS FOR THAT

AND GUESS WHAT

[spice veldt]

i'm sure ansoff was a very good person

[lunar hollow]

_ _

[young ridge]

We need his matrix

[lunar hollow]

NONE OF THEM HAVE TO DO WITH IT

[young ridge]

We are losing focus

[spice veldt]

yeah yeah and google is no authority isn't it

[young ridge]

The monitors

[spice veldt]

don't worry they're normal monitors

[lunar hollow]

so what, are you? you gonna come pin me down and oppress me mr authority man?

[young ridge]

This conversation is getting hotter than his pc

[spice veldt]

oh well you can't say I was the one who put the idea out there when it comes to it

[lunar hollow]

justifying his crimes. wow.

[spice veldt]

a very normal setup

[lunar hollow]

are you one of those fucking people

with a million tabs open

[spice veldt]

what those

yes

[lunar hollow]

i thought we could be cool

[spice veldt]

what's wrong with that huh

[lunar hollow]

but you're an enemy now

FUCKING CLOSE THEM

[spice veldt]

what the hell

[lunar hollow]

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO USE THEM

[spice veldt]

fuck no

i'm sure i'll use them

[lunar hollow]

THEY ARE UNNECESSARY

[spice veldt]

no

[lunar hollow]

i hate that shit. i can't stand it. i can no longer stand you.

[spice veldt]

WHAT

[lunar hollow]

im sorry, it has to be this way

[young ridge]

I can't even figure out what half of the stuff is

[lunar hollow]

you can do all that work to play dt but can't regularly close unneeded tabs

ugh

disgusting

[young ridge]

Why does the lamp have a condom

[lunar hollow]

to prevent him from staring at it

[spice veldt]

it's just paper tissues to diffuse the light

a perfectly normal thing to do ok

home lamps also use paper sheets to diffuse it

out of sight are a salt shaker and bottles of ketchup/mayo

don't mind those as well

[lunar hollow]

you know it's True.

[zealous sierra]

Why 3 monitors

When only 1 being used

🐀

[spice veldt]

i'm watching youtube for now instead of studying

[young ridge]

The things on the desk truly mirrors the excessive amount of tabs

[spice veldt]

so i haven't plugged them back in yet

i'm also on microsoft edge instead of firefox because I didn't want to deal with all the tabs my firefox has

[lunar hollow]

what are u studying? the art of replying to reddit comments?

[spice veldt]

yes

comp science

[young ridge]

There are even more?

[lunar hollow]

you struck me as the type

[spice veldt]

i wonder how you could tell

[lunar hollow]

i recognized the font and background of one of the calculators you used for a screenshot

that was it

lol

[spice veldt]

smh

that's just desmos

[lunar hollow]

yea

[spice veldt]

i think all of my math classes in highschool used it

just that it was the graphing calculator that was usually used

[lunar hollow]

i figured anyone who would seriously use that (for casual purposes)

is a fucking NERD

so far ive been right

[spice veldt]

wow

[lunar hollow]

i mean nerd affectionately ok

[spice veldt]

the desmos scientific calculator is pretty nice for a quick setup of variables n all that

[lunar hollow]

do you see

DO YOU SEE

my point exactly

[zealous sierra]

U right on damage

Doesn't seem like much for breakpoint

🤔

[lunar hollow]

desmos scientific calculator was my godsend for chemistry honors

god bless

[young ridge]

Man was never intended to do math

Literally all statistics on suffering came after math started

[lunar hollow]

uwu

[spice veldt]

i only wish that the calculator was larger

so that I could cram an ungodly amount of variables and equations into it

did you see that monstrosity that I posted into gameplay-help about what method was faster at moving

[lunar hollow]

yes

i did not bother to comprehend it but i did perceive its existence

[spice veldt]

just to make it stick into your mind,

[lunar hollow]

when you throw a bunch of math words and stuff at me my eyes glaze over and it takes a good deal of willpower

for me to try to understand it

[spice veldt]

true

[lunar hollow]

yeah im fucking not

[spice veldt]

even that would be hard for me to understand

[lunar hollow]

i can be good at math when i put my mind to it but god do i hate it

[spice veldt]

without a better organizational structure

math is great until I have to remember stuff like doing calculus by hand

[lunar hollow]

too much work for me i just hold shift

[young ridge]

did you make this

[lunar hollow]

it was revealed to him in a dream

[young ridge]

he would never post symbols from a dream

he wouldnt schizo like that

[spice veldt]

#gameplay-help message

my psyker voice is male seer btw

just as incidental information

[young ridge]

So you figured that out

Then figure out how to close tabs

[spice veldt]

alright i'll get back to you in 80 years

[young ridge]

As long as you're working on it

For real though that's good stuff

[spice veldt]

the thing is that my calculations are sidestepped by the fact that you can "bunny hop"

not in the sense of gaining more speed than you should, like in quake or source games

but whenever you jump and land, your speed will temporarily shoot up to your full movement speed after landing before decaying to your no-stamina sprint speed

[lunar hollow]

so that's why u do those gay dances at the start

[young ridge]

i hate those guys who are jumping around

[spice veldt]

i'm exercising my legs

like a REAL psyker main

unlike your weak-legged zealot ass

[lunar hollow]

well maybe u should help me with that HUH

[spice veldt]

2 dodge count thunderhammer ass'

[young ridge]

wait people actually have dodge counts

cringe

[spice veldt]

all for the pursuit of like 0.4 m/s of speed

(base sprint speed is 5 m/s, for reference)

[young ridge]

how about they focus on the pursuit of the grace of god instead

[spice veldt]

sounds like some zealot shit

i'll have none of that, thank you

[young ridge]

zealots are right

they worship psykers

[spice veldt]

TRRUUUUUEEE

[lunar hollow]

u keep insulting the strain such a righteous weapon puts on my body and maybe ill just barrel u to make u shut up

[spice veldt]

wha

[lunar hollow]

in more ways than 1

[young ridge]

you cant barrel the one who has infinite dodge count

[young ridge]

damn this is hot

[lunar hollow]

you uh

you would think, yeah

[young ridge]

you dont happen to be a demonhost?

[lunar hollow]

nope

[spice veldt]

https://streamable.com/k51xjq

[young ridge]

damn

[lunar hollow]

"What did you do?"

i love it so much

[spice veldt]

and while barrels may not get me (most of the time), bursters will https://streamable.com/viydys

this homegrown, organically triggered burster which exploded me

and the psychotic laughter of josho which occurs coincidentally afterwards

[lunar hollow]

i dont even have to post these clips myself anymore

relationship GOALS

u make fun of urself for me

[spice veldt]

i'm demonstrating your psychopathy to others

mr josho who likes to lie to other people about me barelling you

when it's the OTHER WAY AROUND

[lunar hollow]

any time i try to tell the truth he fucking lies and belittles me

[zealous sierra]

You two should marry already

[young ridge]

people respond differently to trauma, dont be judgemental

[spice veldt]

yeah totally

such is my mistake

[lunar hollow]

i miss iceslow

[young ridge]

its not psychopathy if its funny

[lunar hollow]

he alwasys brought comedy and now hes gone it makes me sad

[spice veldt]

😔

at least he isn't here to post his perspective of me getting barreled into that DH

[lunar hollow]

i stole some of his clips and uploaded them to streamable

i still have my favorites

https://streamable.com/din11b

😭

[spice veldt]

damn iceslow really just held back from typing 'thanks' and just used the comms wheel instead

[lunar hollow]

this clip is genuine art

i think

or at least it's the closest i'll probably every come to it

it starts with the "i'll save you with my recon lasgun", immediately hit with the irony of me standing still for like 5 fucking seconds just unloading to no avail

he goes to type, decides not to, and you can see me literally wishing for death in the chat

and i continue be cheery anyways and he just uses the social wheel

(you can catch a glimpse of me running out of ammo and meleeing it anyways)

[spice veldt]

a literary masterpiece in which the veneer of sarcasm that your voice holds is only fully revealed when iceslow opens his chat

[lunar hollow]

yes

exactly

[spice veldt]

cheater

[lunar hollow]

it's a completely unintentional work of art

https://streamable.com/pvntf7

i like this one too

[spice veldt]

what a nice trauma psyker taking care of a burster only to be disrespected by you

[lunar hollow]

you KNOW that isnt what happened.

[spice veldt]

I know what I know, and it seems that you're a rude fella

[lunar hollow]

you like it

smh

[spice veldt]

true

[young ridge]

how generous

taking time from minding your own safety to protect our fellow players of lower standing

[spice veldt]

yup; people like josho the not-psyker main just have to be so aggressive

[urban hearth]

does ascendant blaze apply 1 stack of soulblaze per charge

[lunar hollow]

😦

[zealous sierra]

Trauma is amazing

[main jolt]

what even is soulblaze

[plucky flax]

Yes.

[spice veldt]

blue fire that's applied by your feats (wrack & ruin, wildfire, ascendant blaze) and weapons (Purgatus staff, Blazing Spirit blessing on Trauma/Voidstrike)

[main jolt]

so you can make it pretty strong then

[zealous sierra]

How does power % scale

[analog solstice]

what are usually the two blessings you want to go for on your force sword? I usually play with the purgatus staff

[feral inlet]

slaughterer + deflector/unstable

if you feel like doing more dmg with the force sword, unstable; otherwise use deflector to block bullets if you're caught in a bad situation

[hidden crystal]

Deflector does need to be paired with the Kinetic Deflection feat to really get the most out of it (otherwise not much fire chews through your block quite fast), so might not give you that much if you want to take any of the other feat options at that level.

Gah. Great base total, but I'd really want the dump on Warp Res, and it's only got a very low level of Slaughterer.

[gloomy gulch]

I have a illisi with the dump on first target. But 80 on warp resistance. I can spam the special attack like crazy.

It is actually a lot of fun

[upper galleon]

Nah first target is super important

Oh wait Illisi nvm

I don't think it factors in ft with charged swings

[analog solstice]

Isnt mobility the dump stat usually?

[feral inlet]

well, it depends

if you plan on running unstable its more common to have warp res as a dumpstat

mobility is a safe dump stat to have

first target will heavily affect your os against flamers and other specialist that arent ogryns or mutants

[gloomy gulch]

First target is bugged with the special right now

[hidden crystal]

If it's a weapon where I can get away with a different dump stat, I do prefer a high mobility where possible, as psyker is already the slowest class. And frankly, it helps to be able to slide all over the place when trying to stay clear of a Spawn.

[bleak tulip]

just dodge weave and you're one of the fastest

[upper galleon]

mobility is a dump stat on force swords

because force swords have unlimited dodges

which automatically makes them the best mobile weapon in combat

like yea, mobility will help with dodge speed and distance but it isn't needed

[lyric burrow]

deimos dodge is really good base anyway

I feel like psykers dont realize how good there melee is at least with illisi

Why are you surging the unarmored guys close 😭

Tbf it was a big open area with other shooters in the back but tbh even that can be dealt with

[upper galleon]

vets 🤝 psykers

not knowing how to use their powerful melee options

[lyric burrow]

I can somewhat understand if they have trauma or purg cause that also horde clears well

Or even void against shooters or further away enemies

But the melee is so good that its still better in a lot of spots

[hidden crystal]

Psyker melee is the main reason I play gunpsyker. Sure, the shooting's not quite as good as veteran (although being able to stack a semi-permanent +34% damage is absolutely not shabby), but when I have gone back to veteran, I just feel powerless when I do need to engage in hand-to-hand.

[thorn cedar]

Yeah Veteran needs adjustments.

It's not cute at all that a Vet is either just a dickless dude with a gun or they're a sigmachad space marine with their F up

The binary of it is completely whack and the peaks and valleys don't make the gameplay that fun, unless you're always at peak.

[hidden crystal]

A psyker with a force sword (particularly with +Stamina and +Stamina Regen) is really good at throwing enemies around in melee, and it was serious whiplash being reminded that veterans have the approximate cardiovascular endurance of a 65 year old.

Now, I realise that they need to be less good at some things than other classes, but yeah, Vet's damage output hinges really heavily on them using their ult.

Time to start hoarding some curios for when the next patch hits:

[thorn cedar]

I already was lul

I am so ready

[hidden crystal]

Well, yes. I have a few +3 Stamina ones I've been sitting on for a while. It'll be a case of consecrating them up, seeing which ones get a T4 perk I like, and then swapping out the rest.

[thorn cedar]

No joke I have a pile of 25+ Orange Curios on all characters.

I never got rid of them because a) copium that they'd fix at LEAST the Curio system at some point and b) I have yet to honestly 110% decide which perks are the ones I want to use so trashing them would have been short sighted.

[hidden crystal]

I threw out some recently that would still be pretty mediocre even with the upcoming changes, but I've got a few greens and blues that I've been saving because I haven't had the energy or patience to watch Hadron ruin them.

[plucky flax]

Worst low intensity run ever.

7 deaths suicide ogryn.

[hidden crystal]

... so far.

[plucky flax]

[hidden crystal]

I'm sure that if I ever get into Damnation, you'll have the pleasure of suffering through a run with me at some stage.

[thorn cedar]

just do eet

[lyric burrow]

Yeah you never know your ready till you try it

[hidden crystal]

The number of stupid mistakes I'm making at Heresy is already enough.

The mission playthrough video I posted recently wasn't a disaster, but there's still enough times I can see I goofed.

[plucky flax]

You are always your own worst critic.

Even during my clutch moments after rewatching I can tear myself apart.

[steel flame]

we were having a perfect run on the hi intensity consightment yard map

and we got to the interigator section

and a fucking chaos spawn appeared halfway through and fucked up our run

WTF

since when can they spawn during that shit

[upper galleon]

they usually can't but tldr this can happen at several events

basically the monsters have spawn points that trigger shortly past the event exit, or supposed to

sometimes the monster spawn trigger is right near the exit of the mid event

and you can trigger it mid event because LMAO

best advice, stay away from the exit doors until event is over

[thorn cedar]

My advice, trigger it anyway because it's way more fun that way

How else will you learn to fight a chaos spawn during an infinite horde?

[plucky flax]

I had it happen before it's funny.

Luckily I was on vet the most op class.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5rqywh2wkw

[upper galleon]

yee that happened to us but it was a pogryn

[lyric burrow]

finally got slaughterer 4

maybe one day ill be able to get a perfect deimos/illisi but ive bought at least 150 deimos swords today and gotten 3 worth upgrading

then they get bricked

so this will do for now

[plucky flax]

RIP no double t4 blessings.

[lyric burrow]

i have unstable 4 too

my illisi is the reverse

i am incapable of getting double t4s

the game does not want them on the same weapon lol

[plucky flax]

That's why I use deflector + slaughterer.

Deflector tier doesn't matter.

So I don't feel bad having deflector 3 on my illisi.

[hidden crystal]

I've got deflector 1 on mine at the moment.

[lyric burrow]

1 mil dockets and like 12k plasteel gone and no illisis worth using

today was not my day

got slaughterer 4 at least 🥲

[analog solstice]

Just a couple of weeks and you can reroll both blessings

[steel flame]

Maybe

[plucky flax]

Providing you get your 2 ideal perks.

[steel flame]

unless the locks stay on already changed stuff

[lament topaz]

So I have a character idea for a Psyker, but I need to know what voice would fit my idea the best

[spice veldt]

+75% power is equal to +75% damage, +75% cleave, and +75% stagger

[fathom adder]

Well, your choices are

• Screeching Kraut who inexplicably hasn't yet been shot for screeching heresy
• Muh Beloved
• Did You Know I Used To Be A Cop

[lament topaz]

Well the Psyker I want to make is just literally Mortarion.

[fathom adder]

Muh Beloved is too cheerful and Space Cop was a cop. Guess that leaves the German voice who's full of scathing social commentary about the Imperium.

[lament topaz]

LETS FUCKING GOOOO

[obsidian girder]

me picking female savant because her voice sounds nice

[lilac tapir]

Any news if the current locks will stay after patch? So for example if I have an item where I rerolled a blessing I will only be able to do 1 more reroll (either perk or blessing) or will all items get reset (which means there is an opportunity here to potentially get 3 rerolls by doing one before the patch).

[lyric burrow]

You can reroll 2 things of choice

So basically the locks are staying

But if you get 2 good blessings or 2 good perks one isnt screwed now

But if you get one good perk one good blessing your in the same spot

[lilac tapir]

yea I was just wondering if current locks are staying or all items are getting their locks wiped with the patch and you will be able to reroll everything as if was never rerolled to begin with

[lyric burrow]

Oh

Idk actually

[spice veldt]

weapons that were rerolled will stay locked, unfortunately #general-chat message

[lyric burrow]

If they reset locks all my stuff could be made perfect lol

That makes sense

Id be surprised if they had wiped them

[lilac tapir]

thanks, I guess that means weapons that currently have one lock will be able to reroll only once ("as per the new system" - I assume that's what they meant by that)?

[spice veldt]

that's my interpretation as well

i have no existing weapons that would benefit from this change 🥲

but at least I won't need to dump as many dockets and mats into curios anymore

[lilac tapir]

yea I think the curios change is big - I have so many curious that are near perfect if I only could reroll two perks and now I will have that opportunity

[strong gulch]

Just did a map with 4 spykers. 2 of them surging the horde with me on purg. Neither surge psyker would use there M1 on shooters.

[spice veldt]

surging unarmoured/infested should just inflict self damage

[strong gulch]

I ended up just leaving them to handle the horde and crabbed my way up to the scattered shooters. That way only I got perforated.

[gloomy gulch]

anyone tried bloodthirsty instead of shred on their blazing spirit meme sword

[strong gulch]

It doesn't work as well because it kills too quickly. Some peoople like it tho.

[spice veldt]

hmm I should probably make more use of focused channeling to advance against reapers

since it seems that it also stops the knockback that reapers have

we have TWBS at home

or just against ranged enemies in general

HMMM

[strong gulch]

for sure

[lament topaz]

I think i'm gonna make my 5th character a Psyker

Now to try and make as lore accurate of a Mortarion as I can in DT.

Already off to a great start, I'm forced to make this mf blind

It is done

[upper galleon]

rations today, rice, chicken and veggies

cake with frosting but it's so hot here the frosting melted into more of a glaze

LMAO

thanks Big E

[strong gulch]

💀

[lament topaz]

Behold, the face of my Psyker

[regal jasper]

Handsome man right there

[strong gulch]

congrats on your creation

omg. Imagine saying that to knew parents

[regal jasper]

Lol

Quality is shit but there is mine

[strong gulch]

More psyker faces

[regal jasper]

Under the mask is dream

[lament topaz]

Leave it on

[regal jasper]

Ok

[upper galleon]

wait i awas in psyker chat

[lament topaz]

Yes

[upper galleon]

okay that means it's bed tiime for me

[lament topaz]

The whole time

[upper galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-mind-enigma-spilled-milk-gif-14172730

[gloomy gulch]

omg I did it this too way too long time to slap on slaughter 4 and maniac on this bad boy

or shouldl I swap for something else on the groaner and poxwalker damange. I just felt Maniac is proabably correct

[twilit flicker]

its been some time, been playing Diablo 4. what do you guys think of the next update? looks like stuff mostly players have been asking for

[spice veldt]

i'm mildly enthused so that I can get 3% more toughness and health out of my curios

I don't think i have any weapons that will benefit from the blessing/perk mix-n-match, unfortunately

i assume that there are going to be some undocumented™ changes, so it'll be fun to see those

[harsh urchin]

My curios are very poorly optimized

So I'll be able to get significantly more out of it than u

Lololol

[harsh urchin]

Ya you're correct

[spice veldt]

i dumped so many mats into my curios 🥲

at least I can just sell all of my >70 rating curios now

[sinful mortar]

FiNGerS in my B~~rAI~~n*s

[hidden crystal]

I've got some where I'll be wanting to nudge their perk tier up, but there are others where I want to swap what's on them for something more ideal.

[spice veldt]

true, I've been considering going back to combat ability regen

2hp, 1 gunner res, 3 CDR, and 3 tough is what I'm trying to go for

[twilit flicker]

like changing Warp Nexus to Harvesting the Warp along with some text errors. It is just a dev blov after all, it might not even be the whole package.

[spice veldt]

and it'll make it easy to swap things around

instead of having to consecrate entirely new curios

[spice veldt]

or that undocumented change to psyker's ult making it scale off of peril instead of warp charges

I have at least one 17% toughness curio with +5% toughness locked in, so that will be flexible

[hidden crystal]

That's actually one I want to get rid of, as a max of 4% cooldown on each curio is still really stingy. I assume it's a lazy way to avoid it stacking too well with certain feats, but if you don't have those feats, one second off your cooldown is... not a lot.

I'd rather have more sniper resist, or possibly more stamina regen.

[spice veldt]

my rationale is that it's basically the only "offensive" perk, and those extra seconds might count for letting me spam my ult instead of saving it for dogs/trappers

since although I run psykinetic's aura, I won't be able to get every elite/special kill

and I have had instances where my CDR has run dry from my teammates getting the last hit in

i have hopium that they'll make combat ability regen from curios to not multiplicatively affect psykinetic's aura

[hidden crystal]

The game is terrible at keeping a team appraised of each other's feats.

"Look, if I get that kill, you all get 15% off your cooldowns, please stop trying to beat me for it"

I guess there's some competition for it when feats do often call for elite kills (stuff like vets ammo aura don't count though, there it doesn't matter who got the kill... and I guess that would be a fairly general fix for it, making more of these things work on coherency).

Although vets elite kill toughness feat would need an even bigger nerf than it already does.

But yeah, I find that the CDR curio perk is pretty stingy when you're not stacking other CDR feats.

[strong gulch]

DrunkTide™️ is a different time.

[twilit flicker]

its a completely different game while drunk, things happen so fast its kinda just a blur

[spice veldt]

my damage taken gets higher the more drunk I am

I'm sure there's no correlation though

[strong gulch]

💯

[hidden crystal]

Well, there is a correlation - you just said that:

my damage taken gets higher the more drunk I am

But, importantly, correlation does not mean causation.

[spice veldt]

damn i was hoping no one would know stats here

[strong gulch]

I found myself handing from a ledge and quite confuse.

I had time to puzzle and think until my puzzler was solved.

A gunner's shots hit me caused some weird collision that made me slide sideways.

Also another psyker did the same thing. 💀

Almost dumped water into my keyboard. heck

[lunar hollow]

huh so playing with me and being drunk does the same thing

[spice veldt]

yeah it's equivalent to having a teammate who likes to blow barrels and bursters on me

[boreal wave]

Hey there. Psyker main trying to get better at the game. Friend I play with is a veteran who is a sweaty competative player from a dozen other FPS. Every time elites show up, it's like he fans the hammer and the scoreboard lights up and all the elites are gone. How am I expected to contribute to the team in situations where brainburst goes off too slow?

[spice veldt]

guns are pretty good in this game, especially if they're running the meta gun options

the one advantage that psyker does have are their force swords, if you're looking to get some DPS in while having good mobility while attacking

brainburst is at best a utility/anti-armor weapon once you've got your weapons kitted out

so that's not the best DPS option in most scenarios

[boreal wave]

Yeah I find that the only time I get a shoutout is when I'm clearing hordes in melee with my illisi.

[lunar hollow]

cut some words out and u have the truth

[spice veldt]

the evidence is out there

binch

illisi is also nice for diving ranged patrols

I wonder if I have any nice clips

[hidden crystal]

Start complaining about the shooters he's not dealing with.

[boreal wave]

But every guide I read stresses that the BB is central to the psyker kit. I just never seem to get it off before enemies get gibbed. Even in cases where I see the enemy first, they just get blown away by other classes before the BB cooks off.

[hidden crystal]

How new is your friend to this?

Specifically Darktide.

[boreal wave]

We do tend to get overwhelmed by shooters a lot. He refuses to get out of malice even though he's better than me because of it.

[spice veldt]

in case you're not privy, you get ranged i-frames on slides, dodges, and sprinting perpendicularly to gunfire

and the unique trait of force swords are their infinite dodges

so as long as you're not having your momentum completely killed by Gunners/Reapers, you are at free liberty to abuse the shit out of this mechanic while your force sword is held out

[boreal wave]

Yeah I knew about the i-frames. I didn't know about infinate dodge though. I run into a lot of cases where I dodge around and the character ends up jumping randomly. I assumed it was because I ran out of dodges.

[spice veldt]

holding out your melee also increases the range at which ranged enemies will pull out their melee

[boreal wave]

And he's been playing exactly as long as I have. We were both from beta, but ended up taking a few month break back in, oh, april or something.

[spice veldt]

so if you can get close, you can essentially shut patrols of non-elite ranged enemies down

[hidden crystal]

As is, BB is fairly central to the psyker kit, but it does somewhat rely on having a team who realise that it's not a competition, and that anything with a blue halo around its head is not a targeting suggestion, and will be dead in just a couple of seconds without you having to waste ammo... oh, and also powers up your psyker's damage in the process.

The general equation is that shooting most things that a psyker is already BBing is a waste of your time, their time, and ammo, and makes the team less effective, so unless you need it dead this instant, don't shoot it.

And yes, it can be pretty frustrating playing with people who think they're trying to compete.

[boreal wave]

Alas.

I'll just have to git better

[spice veldt]

i guess i should just use my old clip

[strong gulch]

Yeah BB is slow but reliable. It isn't there to compete.

There are no hard role. However, think of psyker as the enabler and flex slot if BB is not working out.

[spice veldt]

this is a fairly sketchy clip because I'm fighting on a ramp and the stalkers weren't swapping to their melee as I would've liked, but this is an example of how you can play into groups of ranged enemies https://streamable.com/kwcqps

if you can be ahead of your team and take the initial engagement, you can often clean up a ranged patrol by yourself as long as there's no Gunner/Reaper around

[strong gulch]

Guns are much faster than BB. There is no way around that. It can do things that guns can't tho

You can really commit to support too.

I fecking can't count to 2. I thought I was done with melk missions. Turns out I got 1 more mission to do.

[boreal wave]

I'm not so sure about it being "reliable." Even when I do get it off in pugs, I notice on Heresy and Damnation there's even some humanoid elites that require two taps to take down. That's just so much time

[hidden crystal]

While the veteran ult by default illuminates elites and specials, the real thing they should be prioritising most of the time is shooters (and, indeed, one of their Lvl 30 feats changes their ult to highlight shooters).

Zealot is mostly based around melee. Ogryns generally have fairly short ranged weapons. Psyker's staves aren't good at single target DPS at long ranges. The veteran as a class is the best suited to dealing with ranged attackers.

Good teamwork is not about dealing with your individual best target type, but what other people are worse at.

[spice veldt]

it's reliable in the sense that it autoaims and locks onto targets I would say

[hidden crystal]

Or, indeed, in keeping the pressure off them so they can do what they're good at.

[spice veldt]

enemies like Ragers or Maulers can be taken care of with your ranged or melee

though I sometimes do brainburst them if I figure that the time that it takes for me to cover the distance to melee them is longer than if I were to just brainburst them on my way there

if you don't like brainburst making you move more slowly, you can spam a bunch of slides to mitigate it https://streamable.com/rbxz2o

[strong gulch]

What I mean by liable is it's always available and can distance take out or soften up big HP / armoured targets.

Depending on setup, you can hit break points to need fewer BBs to kill things.

Understanding timing and special's pathing can be utilized for precharging a BB.

[boreal wave]

I guess I'm not quite understanding how you are so confident about dodging into shooters and hordes. More often than not, shooters keep their guns out even when I have my sword until the absolute last second, and my dodges end up screwing up all the time.

[spice veldt]

internet could also be a factor, depending on how shitty it is

you get 5% toughness per melee kill, so that bolsters my confidence when diving into them

[hidden crystal]

If you can persuade your friend to focus more on the shooters, you'll probably all have an easier time.

[spice veldt]

I also stack 3 toughness curios and Kinetic Shield for more ranged protection and benefit from melee kills

[strong gulch]

There is a red flash right before they shoot. Sliding for psyker also make you take less damage.

[spice veldt]

but I also have >1k hours in the game, and this is a playstyle that took a long time for me to be comfortable with

dodge-slides are probably the most important movement tech against ranged enemies

the uptime on ranged i-frames with them is very good if you can do your inputs well

[boreal wave]

I only have 242 hours. Still a little frustrated.

[strong gulch]

I mena valid

mean*

[spice veldt]

here's a video comparing dodges and dodge-slides https://streamable.com/o4uty5

gunners are one of the ranged enemies that don't have their tracking broken by dodges, so they're a good enemy to use as an example

[plucky flax]

Use deflector is op

[strong gulch]

You can set your keybinds to always slide too.

[harsh urchin]

Fyi

Most people setup their builds

To deal with shooters

And specials

Hordes and bosses are just things you can deal with utilizing skill

But if you cant deal with shooters, its gonna be an uphill battle

[strong gulch]

Scattered shooters is a bad time if they aren't prioritized/ taken care of.

[hidden crystal]

As a psyker who mostly plays with an Illisi and MG12, I'm definitely better specced for melee than I am range, but if I'm the only one who brought a long range option, you'd better believe that I'll take the anti-shooter duty.

[spice veldt]

true, deflector is very good

it also depends on what staff that you usually use

I like Trauma because the stagger is great for granting protection against essentially all melee enemies, and it can either kill ranged patrols outright or enable you to move closer to melee them

without Trauma, I would not be able to be as aggressive as I usually am

[hidden crystal]

I may be less good at it than I am at other things, but if everyone else on the team is worse at it, then it would be stupid for me to make them deal with that problem instead.

[strong gulch]

I'm beetlejuice. Anti ghost propaganda.

[boreal wave]

I like to use surge though lately I've been noticing that it doesn't really help in a lot of the situations where I think it would.

[spice veldt]

maybe record your own gameplay and watch over it to see what you could improve, if you want to dedicate some of your free time to that

that's what I do sometimes

maybe it would've been better to swap to another weapon, kite backwards at this particular instance, etc.

[young ridge]

@spice veldt you have left a mark on my brain

[spice veldt]

wut i do

i'm innocent, I swear

[young ridge]

So anytime someone overtakes me in the initial mission sprint, I now keep hearing "0,4 extra speed"

I CAN'T STOP HEARING IT

[spice veldt]

LMAO

spoken like somebody who's 0.4 m/s slower

get fast, kid

[feral inlet]

its over

maybe the perks wont matter much and ill just put the blessings on it next patch and it'll be useable

[young ridge]

Yeah it will be good

Like you don't get a bad weapon with a 380 base

[hidden crystal]

That's arguable.

[young ridge]

No, no it's not

[urban hearth]

REALLY MELK

this is how you gonna do me today

[feral inlet]

rip

[urban hearth]

bait me with them stats then drop those bricked ass blessings and perks on me

[plucky flax]

Meh without the perks you lose on a lot of breakpoints.

The 80% damage stat doesn't cover for +20/25% damage on an armour type.

[strong gulch]

Truly impressing with how godly bad this is.

[autumn smelt]

"it seems im the last one alive, lets see if i can clutch this"
shotgunners start shooting me through walls
"it seems i cannot clutch this"

idk why the hell the entirety of the elevator is considered shoot-through-able material

i crouch down in the close corner getting reading to bb the first shotgunner once the elevator on vigil station reaches the top, but he just starts blasting me through the solid wall

[autumn smelt]

There is a sort of synergy there tho

They can use run and gun 15% more efficiently

[lilac tapir]

What is really sad is that even the new reroll system won't help here. FS knew exactly what they were doing - they probably saw the telemetry and how many weapons need 2 rerolls vs 3 rerolls to become "perfect" and they knew the change they introduced will have marginal impact on the number of "perfect" weapons 😦

The new system only really helps curios and maybe a very small % of weapons.

[hidden crystal]

The core problem is the wildly out of balance blessings and perks leaving weapons meaning that the RNG frequently gives you things that are not just different, but objectively worse.

And having the locks actually makes rebalancing a problem in of itself.

If you change the strength and utility of a blessing, then you change the meta, and in the process give users a new chore to grind gear to meet that new meta.

For a while, I used a Vraks VII Autogun with the Crucian Roulette blessing. With +5% crit chance for each 10% of the magazine missing, it meant that the last few shots in the magazine had a 50% crit chance...

... and even as someone who generally doesn't like the crit mechanics for just randomly messing with breakpoints, I had to admit that 50% crits was pretty useful; it's not a good thing to have to reload under pressure, but the high crit rate with those last few shots gave you a good last ditch chance of finishing off most things.

With it now +0.5% per shot missing, that maxes out at about +15%, which is back to the point that it's not reliable enough to be useful on a semi-auto weapon.

I'd already locked that blessing on to the gun, so at that point, I was effectively handed the job of grinding up a new gun to replace it.

[dreamy bramble]

Fatshark could fix crucian roulette on the vraks mk VII headhunter by giving it the same ammo capacity as the other 2 headhunter autoguns. But idk if that'd make the Mk 7 the best overall at that point...

Make the headhunters have similar ammo capacity like the ripper guns.

[hidden crystal]

Regardless of which Mk of weapon you had, the crit chance from Crucian took a huge dive when they changed it. Yes, the description became clearer (rather than "chamber" being unexplained as "10% of a magazine"), but the top level of it maxed out at +45% on the last few shots, and now I don't think any version hits more than about half that.

[dreamy bramble]

I believe last burst for mk 3 headhunter with crucian IV is 21% with 46/45 rounds

For Agripinaa Mk 9 headhunter, it's the same deal with the vraks mk3 headhunter.

The mk 7 gets shafted with this blessing by providing only 15.5% crit chance with the last round if you have a mk 7 headhunter with a 32 round mag.

The blessing is less optimal for the vraks mk7. But in a similar fashion, opening salvo is best suited for the vraks mk 7, ok with the agripinna mk 9, and not the best choice with the vraks mk3 headhunter.

[boreal wave]

The crap with enemies shooting up the elevator without you being able to do shit is kind of busted.

[hidden crystal]

Slightly tempting for its raw stats, but it's not starting with good blessing level and I don't think I much enjoy the surge playstyle.

[boreal wave]

Kind of think surge needs some help. Purge already locks down hordes and does way more damage on top of that.

[thorn cedar]

Surge is effective but boring.

It doesn't really need a buff. It's like playing Mercy but with lightning bolts.

I spend my entire game time zapping while looking around in circles and sprinting to look for the next threat/target.

But like, that's all it can do lol. And it's consistent across all targets.

Bruisers? Zap. Banana shooters? Zap. Scabs? Zap. Mutant? Zap. Crusher Patrol? Zap.

[boreal wave]

Yeah but purge does it better. If you're playing surge, you're doing it for the CC. Purge also puts the enemy in a stagger animation but isn't target capped and does more damage.

[thorn cedar]

Depends on the target cause Surge 100% does more damage to armored types than Purge. Not that Purge will be all that lacking to begin with.

But the TTK on a Crusher is night and day.

[boreal wave]

Your group probably isn't hedging it's bets on a surge staff to be the primary weapon system against crushers.

[restive slate]

I want a new Blessing for Surge where when fully charged it chains to more enemies

[thorn cedar]

Nah, when fully charged it shoots a 2400 damage plasma bolt

It'll go like peww

Infinite pen.

[restive slate]

Now thats just silly hahaha

[boreal wave]

This is the only game I've ever played where the chain lightning option was the worst for AOE.

[thorn cedar]

Make it go through walls and do my taxes.

I sincerely believe chain lightning sucks in all games that do not operate on a 2D plane.

That's my unofficial theory.

[boreal wave]

Well then that's it. I'll just ask the devs to remake the game as a 2d isometric game.

[thorn cedar]

Finally, what we all needed.

[boreal wave]

Look out, Blizzard.

Fatshark has your number.

[thorn cedar]

But no seriously I have never enjoyed a chain lightning effect in a 3D game on the same level as in a 2d game.

Something about that added dimension just sort of fucks the feel of it.

Warcraft 3? Awesome. WoW? Flaccid.

[young ridge]

This offends me but I also agree

[ornate hamlet]

If I was to guess, in 3D the effect is more capable of obstructing something meaningful to the player

[young ridge]

Maybe, but I don't really feel like obstacles are a problem with surge

[maiden wolf]

I half agree with both of you, surge is good, but if you're using it with the intent to kill you'll be really inconsistent. IMO its best to prioritise targets that pose an immediate threat to your team, and ping whatever you're zapping to ket your teammates know what you're doing.

[young ridge]

2d games generally feel like they're more generous with damage, at least in my experience

[maiden wolf]

I use surge almost all the time

[young ridge]

You are an angel

[maiden wolf]

I'm currently farming for the no respite blessing to put on my headhunter autogun.

I got my mits on one with perfect stats, 25% maniac damage, and improved stagger on headshot. I thought it would have a fun synergy with no respite.

[thorn cedar]

Yeeeah Falter does ... nothing??

I don't think there's a single weapon where it allows for a stagger breakpoint.

[maiden wolf]

Oof

[thorn cedar]

I tried it with the MGIV since it has no notable blessings anyway, same reason as you.

Zero results lol

[maiden wolf]

Ayoye, time to go moan on the forums!

[gritty hare]

hey sorta new to darktide and psyker gameplay, would guys reccomend a more psykic ability based character with force staff or a more well traditional in your own personal opinions

[steel flame]

I would avoid the trauma staff till you hit 30. It has very harsh scaling so its terrible when you unlock it but amazing when you get a fully leveled one

[gritty hare]

thats fair i have been having a little trouble with it to begin with

[white blaze]

This is pretty much as good as it gets right? Aside from having higher rolls on the perks and base stats?

New to psyker so just figuring builds out

[cyan notch]

you are correct

[white blaze]

nice thanks

[steel flame]

Guns tend to work better while leveling until you get the purgatus flame staff

[gritty hare]

still annoyed the early autoguns only have like 18 bullets

[spice veldt]

yeah infantry autoguns suffer from lack-of-ammo-itis

[ornate hamlet]

When I'm in the fuck up loot generation by making mag size and total ammo a variable competition and my opponent is Fatshark

[spice veldt]

i love figuring out that people lightspam on the illisi from how they are recommending executor on the illisi

[gloomy gulch]

I've been using the blue infantry auto and it is definitely mild. Paired it with my meme fire illisi and yeah

[plucky flax]

For pure light spam I think shred slaughterer would be best.

[restive slate]

I use Uncanny, Slaughterer

[plucky flax]

Yeah uncanny is good too. I just think shred is more consistant vs horde since uncanny is strong against carapace but you don't really want to light spam them anyway.

About to let Hadron fuck this one up.

[spice veldt]

i cri

[plucky flax]

Shred meme build I guess.

[spice veldt]

remember to snort a line of coke to take the pain away

[plucky flax]

Well even if I can reroll 3 times it's still bricked.

So that's my argument for letting us reroll thrice for weapons vs twice.

But fartshart.

[spice veldt]

you will have 1 million diamantine and you will be happy

[feral inlet]

wait until next patch and you'll have a good base stat illisi with the right blessings, but no good perks

fantastic tradeoff

[plucky flax]

Yeah slaughterer on this baby with unarmoured and infested.

Such amazing weapon.

[feral inlet]

patch 12 best patch!! lord bless...

[spice veldt]

force swords with like 11 total blessings and only 3-4 proper ones to pick from

[plucky flax]

I guess it's an upgrade over this meme sword. But unarmoured vs infested which to keep?

[feral inlet]

i'd say unarmoured

[spice veldt]

there's the argument for +unarmoured if you're doing ascendant blaze

[feral inlet]

since infested is only poxwalkers iirc

[plucky flax]

Aye true.

I'll make it to unarmoured crit chance and put on blazing spirit 4.

The meme dream continues.

[spice veldt]

and ittt will gooo onnnn fooorreeevveerrrr

ouiabsifbsabfiasg

[feral inlet]

i have a bunch of good guns on my psyker

that i will never use

wonder if they'll add shared inventories like ever so i could deposit them and hand them to my vet

[spice veldt]

hopefully

what's the point of having the same shared weapon types and no distinction in blessings between classes and a split inventory

and especially curios

[feral inlet]

to avoid level 5 characters using them! oh wait, they already have a level barrier in the game!

hmmm

im missing out on 20 dmg compared to my 75% dmg trauma staff so i was wonder if this worth upgrading

[plucky flax]

You know for me, nah. But arco don't mind low damage for some reason.

[hidden crystal]

Poxhounds and bursters too, not that it's a good idea to hit bursters with a sword.

[plucky flax]

Yo you have my boi hanayama as your profile pic.

The hardest yakuza.

[spice veldt]

my view is that damage doesn't scale much nor do you miss out on breakpoints on non-elites/specials (provided that you supplement with perks and/or feats and/or warp charges)

and that I would much rather prefer 80% quell speed/warp res, especially on Trauma

[feral inlet]

time to see if i'll get a blazing + warp nexus trauma

[spice veldt]

i crunched some numbers here comparing damage vs quell speed #psyker-class message

though my calculations ignored battle meditation and blessings

[feral inlet]

the way im looking at it is

im missing out on 20 damage

thats it

[spice veldt]

yeah p much

[spice veldt]

NOOOOOOO

[feral inlet]

1 suboptimal perk

1 ok perk but not perfect

2 shit blessings

guess ill just put warp nexus and blazing when the next patch rolls around and call it a day

[plucky flax]

What's the breakpoint to 1 shot dreg bruise without unarmoured?

Don't you need high damage for that?

[spice veldt]

with an 80% damage stat, I think you need something along the lines of +22% damage

i lied

it's +18.4%, or 5 warp charges

[feral inlet]

meme crit chance deimos time

meme is the dream

[plucky flax]

Wut

[feral inlet]

very good crit deimos

[spice veldt]

but yeah with 360 damage, you need +25% damage from somewhere

[plucky flax]

Pretty sure I can full charge dreg bruiser on my 79% damage trauma without warp charge

[maiden wolf]

Mine just has Run-n-gun and focused channeling. Partially 'cause they're useful blessings, but mostly because they're easier to get than Warp Nexus and Warp Flurry.

[spice veldt]

maybe cuz of warp unleashed

[plucky flax]

I'll test it after food.

[spice veldt]

smh

[plucky flax]

Cos I have flak on mine and I can full charge 1 shot all trash mob I'm sure.

[feral inlet]

i have around 12 good base illisi waiting in my inventory, maybe ill upgrade them to try and get unstable 4 at some point

[plucky flax]

So the ideal blaze trauma is extremely hard to build.

[spice veldt]

the ideal trauma is extremely hard to build 🥲

my 60 dmg 80 everything else traumas have left me very sad

[plucky flax]

Illisi is hard too. Way too many blessings

[feral inlet]

my current trauma

not much i can do about it

[plucky flax]

• get lucky to get flak/maniac

[feral inlet]

except rending4

[plucky flax]

Blaze > rending

[spice veldt]

focused channeling supremacy

[obsidian girder]

rending doesnt strike me as useful considering trauma already goes through armor anyway

[spice veldt]

if you're playing in a premade, then rending shockwave has a purpose

but otherwise, I have not a single inch of trust for my teammates

[young ridge]

this is wisdom

[spice veldt]

e.g., with a ripper ogryn premade, they can afford to take off can opener for inspiring barrage instead while you run rending shockwave on the trauma

[young ridge]

putting rs is knowledge, but that there is pure wisdom

[spice veldt]

i have been getting particularly bad pubs recently

maybe because of the long-playing players having taken a break or just bad luck on my part

[young ridge]

idk it feels like most people i meet in game have severe brain damage

[spice veldt]

first time in a while that I've blocked 4+ players in a week

[young ridge]

pls unblock me tho

[spice veldt]

no

[young ridge]

: (

[spice veldt]

maybe if you were 0.4 m/s faster

[young ridge]

i would be too powerful

you know i cant understand numbers

[spice veldt]

it's mostly just trauma and surge psykers that I've been blocking

and this one voidstrike psyker who kept blinding my ass and only had 12k melee damage

[young ridge]

thats like a weird kind of racism but ok

[plucky flax]

Tru

[spice veldt]

🙂

[plucky flax]

I play surge

[spice veldt]

blocked + L + ratio

[young ridge]

now you are also the victim of a hate crime

[plucky flax]

I don't play with Americans

So don't bother me

[spice veldt]

good riddance

[young ridge]

a european you say

[spice veldt]

i did have a game where I got REALLY frustrated and just told some psykers off to not use the trauma on reapers I was meleeing with the illisi special

[plucky flax]

Brexit superiority

[spice veldt]

or the surge psyker to go into the psykhanium to check the unarmoured/infested damage

brexit sounds like breakfast which means it was a good thing

[grizzled jasper]

Imagine playing with Americans in current year

[young ridge]

i didnt realise americans were real until now

[spice veldt]

i live in "america" and it's definitely a hoax of some sort

to what gain, I do not know

[young ridge]

yeah thats obvious

[spice veldt]

prob the same as "antarctica"

[young ridge]

like "i live in georgia"

the hell you do, thats not even in north america

[spice veldt]

mfs living in "newfoundland"

made up name

[harsh urchin]

Most of the time I'd rather let ppl die

Than rezz

So i can have their ammo 🤓

[young ridge]

they literally couldnt be bothered to make a proper name

[harsh urchin]

Cuz pubs are so useless

[young ridge]

also why are they talking ENGLISH

[spice veldt]

unfortunately I still need to keep teammates alive even as bait or aggro

[feral inlet]

i revive every single person in pubs but i dont trust them

i am a saint

[spice veldt]

though I've had boss spawns + patrols where my teammates were completely useless

[feral inlet]

9/10 when a cspawn appears in pubs

we wipe

because im stuck soloing the cspawn in a tight place for 5 minutes while my teammates are getting killed by 2 flamers a trapper and a horde

[young ridge]

and they will still blame you for not dealing with the horde

[feral inlet]

i'd get the cspawn at very low health

maybe like 20-30% left

[spice veldt]

the one time that I've been blamed was when some player told me to brainburst the ranged enemies... while I was diving them with melee

[feral inlet]

and they'd leave it at 5% and fucking wipe

[spice veldt]

boss spawns happening at dropdowns always fuck me as well

[young ridge]

i had some weirdo try to explain the purge staff to me today

[spice veldt]

because I play with melee which requires me to move my psyker body forward

[young ridge]

strange fella

[spice veldt]

purg psykers are the one type that I am always fine with because there's no way they can screw things up for me

[young ridge]

obv you should just strike with your sword from a distance using brain stuff

a force sword with a ranged ability would be so sweet

[feral inlet]

i am a brainburst heavy psyker

thats why i run support staffs like all the time

[spice veldt]

sword waves pl0x

[feral inlet]

surge/trauma

occasionally purgatus if i feel like it

[spice veldt]

I am a melee DPS psyker because I don't trust my teammates to fit the role of DPS at all

and none of our staffs having good single-target DPS at all

[young ridge]

same, but in a way that i get an aneurysm everytime i play with a mcs veteran

[spice veldt]

even with force swords, I have to rely on slaughterer stacks for the single-target DPS

I need my warp glock

[young ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/blow-im-about-to-blow-im-bout-to-blow-helicopter-helicopter-helicopter-gif-26483307

[feral inlet]

with brainbursts i can safely know im doing my job properly

[young ridge]

how do you keep damage up against monsters in melee?

[feral inlet]

killing off far away elites before engaging to have an easier time and killing ranged specials

[spice veldt]

i don't; i drown in my tears instead

[feral inlet]

i.e. snipers and bombers

[young ridge]

fr we should be able to warp infuse bullets on something like a revolver

[spice veldt]

Brainburst seems to be pretty good against monstrosities (except the daemonhost) nowadays

since they buffed the weakspot damage on plogryn/beast of nurgle

[young ridge]

oh same then

[feral inlet]

yeah its pretty nice

[earnest torrent]

I was running surge staff until I got tired of getting teams without anyone equipped to clear hordes and getting overrun, now I only run purge staff

[spice veldt]

and it seems that they buffed the base damage of brainburst against the plogryn/beast of nurgle on top of that

[feral inlet]

i remember playing in a premade of 4 psykers

[young ridge]

same, when the chaos spawn was "new"

we ended that bitch so fast

[feral inlet]

1 psyker kept the aggro of a cspawn while me and another one brainburst it, and the other psyker clearing hordes

cspawn didnt stand a chance

[spice veldt]

one day, psyker will also get a burst DPS staff

[young ridge]

why are you not a dev

[spice veldt]

mfing ogryns having their rippers and zealot/vets having bolters

[young ridge]

i want these weapons now

[feral inlet]

i think i have one of the first recorded cspawn kills but theres probably some like

hidden chinese player who did it before me .2 seconds after the patch released

[young ridge]

whos on his pc like cf seven 77

he has ,051 extra speed

[grizzled jasper]

Just claim it and if he says anything just DM him 1989 and watch him disappear