zealot-class

[spare talon]

Moveset

[remote lark]

better to think of it in terms of attack speed
slow attack speed = usually bad with crit

[misty nova]

Pretty goated BTW

[sterile basalt]

Well, there’re a lot of them

[mint brook]

chainsword apparantly does the most damage

[sterile basalt]

Not quite, chainswords have a unique quirk with finesse bonus damage staying same across all targets struck by cleave

[mint brook]

oh i used gamelanterns stats 🥲

but even checking ingame, stats seem the same

[sterile basalt]

The “finesse” stat in weapon RNG is a modifier for finesse and atk speed, but just having finesse as a fluctuating stat doesn’t make the weapon finesse centric

U need to know the weapon’s discrepancy between base and total weakspot/crit damage to know if it’s finesse centric

[naive stirrup]

more ammo per mag + faster reload
thank you discord for lying to me about where chat was

[hard nexus]

finesse is innate to all weapons, it just determines the crit and weakspot multipliers for attacks

having a finesse modifier on a weapon just means that it can change

[mint brook]

how am i supposed to know that???
what weapon profits then the most from blazing piety + fury of the faitful

[naive stirrup]

dueling sword, knife, dclaw, tactical axe
idk about heavy sword

[hard nexus]

basically all weapons

mainly because blazing piety allows you to take invocation of death, meaning more chastise, meaning more damage

[misty nova]

Hsword isn't really a crit weapon
Anyways here's Perfect Strike and 10% crit Chained Deathblow (bugged)

[naive stirrup]

it said crit before
i swear it said crit before

[hard nexus]

still worse than headtaker and death blow :(

[copper hawk]

This tbh it's why i take it w my hsword 9 w dblow hter; maximizes ur uptime on dealing w armored targets w IoD refreshin Chastise in like 17 seconds or so

[misty nova]

That's why you go Bladed Momentum and Perfect Strike

[grizzled aspen]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/jCmddczn5WWdQrrk1?invite=cr-MSxwM3EsMjY5OTA3MzMzLA

Lumii gets himself into a shit situation and begs me to save him.

[mighty root]

@remote lark he made an ai video of you playing bad but good thing it’s fake

[remote lark]

ik ik 🚬

[mighty root]

@sullen forge I got a vet question for void shields what’s a good combo ti
I get it down with the mk 6 knife?

[remote lark]

step 1: dont be fyre

[mighty root]

I know the mk3 is just punch heavy until success

[mighty root]

I need to find that vid of that emoji so everytime this happens I send it

[sullen forge]

I mean its the same thing since Void Shields are just weak too Melee in general

so you just Melee till it breaks, preferably any strikedown patterns

[mighty root]

Well yeah I just wanted the most optimal way

So just Push attack spam with mk6?

[sullen forge]

Pretty much that or Punch L/H, even simple Heavy spam works

[mighty root]

Amazing

The more I used the knife the more I realized how much I utilized the push attack

[remote lark]

noobstone

[lunar fable]

hello slowmode chat

[remote lark]

hii

[misty nova]

Slow day huh

[mighty root]

[ebon bobcat]

Zealot chat is being abandoned, finally

[fiery ingot]

how important is crowd control for thammer?

[grizzled aspen]

Very. It determines your attack speed.

Low cc stat = slower thrust build time = much lower dps, as well as just not being able to clear hordes at all.

[fiery ingot]

ohh kk ty

[carmine falcon]

lights out damantion malestrom
waves of mutants
Waves of whatever tf
havoc examplar knife zealot w+ into the elevator and just sits there while we're getting wrecked

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/696098420120748056/1335814383695298570/image.png?ex=67a18997&is=67a03817&hm=e609087b6f872031804c7c6815bef4cbf9babf2db71b77db491424ff085f152d&

[plush estuary]

waves of mutant with lights out?>

[carmine falcon]

i dont know the exact but im getting every single elite possible in massive packs

[plush estuary]

mutants are specialists

[carmine falcon]

just checked it says waves of specialists and funny weakened bosses

this is amazing im just chilling watching the zealot cloaked in elevator whiel the other 2 alive ones are cursing in voice

[carmine falcon]

bro kept pushing w until he got trapped and we let him die then he ragequit and we won

[fiery ingot]

man how do i solo chaos spawn? im trying solo runs but this mf always pushes me to a corner and blocks me there and starts violating me to my death idk how to deal with it

[plush estuary]

remove threats, isolate, get in melee range to bait repeatable moves (the slam and grab)

dodge those and win

[carmine falcon]

bolter

[fiery ingot]

thats the thing i try to get him to do repeatable attacks like plague ogryn but sometimes he just does the 3 combo slam that is pretty hard to dodge considering he pushes forward

[copper hawk]

It's just kinda blocking and dodging, ull get the hang of it - i cant even dodge cspawns consistently cuz of their repulsor fields; they're super inconsistent, including the grab

[fleet zealot]

Tube ferret in psyker chat

[fiery ingot]

i think i might be outspacing too much afraid of getting grabbed and that might be causing him to do the 3 slams? idk

[copper hawk]

Dodge towards the arm (your right) 2 not get nabbed like 80% of the time

[fleet zealot]

Chaos spawn is all about dodge tempo when it’s on you, don’t panic dodge and know which hits you can block instead

[copper hawk]

Not rlly ur fault. Cspawns have a repulsor field that pushes u away so

[fleet zealot]

Oh 3 slams i misread

[strong folio]

tips on "just a flesh wound" Penance?

[copper hawk]

@hard nexus another signalis brainrot friend ,,

[hard nexus]

YIPPPEE

[copper hawk]

No 1 helped u cuz theyre meaniez but private game, preferably an assassination mission, burn urself w a barrel at the beginning 2 the one wound, dont heal and play through it

[vague depot]

You could do twins if you think you can

[tawdry leaf]

Yeah most people do twins from what ive seen and heard

[jagged cradle]

Train is also an option

[strong folio]

oki ty

[strong folio]

SIGNALIS ‼️

[plush estuary]

They multiply

[vague depot]

theres more of them

[spare talon]

mitosis

[plush estuary]

Hows the gameplay? I'm tempted

[spare talon]

i know its akin to ps1 horror games (thats what it was going for)
and i know bricky covered it positively which is a good sign

[hard nexus]

its an isometric (top down) shooter, with inventory management like resident evil/silent hill

the gameplay is mostly puzzle solving, exploration, and combat

[strong folio]

the game will never leave you

[hard nexus]

just play it, it’s peak

[spare talon]

impossible
i already have too many of those games
no more slots

[frosty herald]

Moster hutner

[hard nexus]

yam try not to mention monster hunter challenge

[frosty herald]

🙂‍↕️

[copper hawk]

I looooove procrastinating

[neat drum]

I can't help it

[vague depot]

Oh yea your pfp reminds me do you want to see this glorp hatsune miku art I found

[hard nexus]

wha

[copper hawk]

Gleep glorp

[vague depot]

Damn

[neat drum]

I hate procrastinating, its gotten me in trouble before many times, but I can't stop myself from doing it

[copper hawk]

I should be running but i love procrastinatin ,, i olympic champione procrastinator ,,

[rough galleon]

Where does smothering a man with dementia in a public hospital land morally

[rough galleon]

He's loud so I think no jury could convict me

[frosty herald]

Mhwilds open beta 2 this weekend

[copper hawk]

Almost said somethin a bit 2 personal for zealot chat ,,

[vague depot]

Oh hell yea it’s time to see if my laptop upgrade can run it (surely)

[lunar fable]

mmm monter hunter

[hard nexus]

im so good at procrastinating im not even ranked yet

[copper hawk]

Yo mama

[neat drum]

What do we want? To stop procrastinating.
When do we want it? Later

[distant yoke]

Does the mk2 taxe want Headtaker + bromentum or Headtaker + Shred?

[spare talon]

headtaker bromentum

[distant yoke]

Thank you

[vague depot]

I run headtaker shred
I think flak unyielding too

[vernal terrace]

Taking heads with you is very khrone like but only if you take 8 so remember to take less than 8 but not 7 cause that makes you a nurgle cultist AND also not 6 cause that makes you one of those bumpy weird slaanesh worshippers or or or take more than 8 but not 9 because then tzeentch will make you a schizo

[distant yoke]

[spare talon]

how did you get out of the padded cell kez

[vernal terrace]

They let me out to preach!!!

And now I will fly away on this screamer

[copper hawk]

Khrone like

[vernal terrace]

[median steeple]

Khrone like crone, Holy shit witcher 3 reference

[drifting wolf]

IT'S KHORNE

[copper hawk]

Stinker .

[median steeple]

Nope

[rustic bobcat]

what guns do you guys run on zealot? bistol's an option and i remember revolver, i just remember brauto falls off and im not sure what to swap it for

[vague depot]

I run whatever I feel like using because tknife handles all my special sniping and most of zealots melees can deal with the rest

Been having a good time with the combat shotgun so far

[copper hawk]

flamer or bolter

[jagged cradle]

Never come back!

[vernal terrace]

evil

[jagged cradle]

Says you

[hard nexus]

pattern screamer???

woah…

[copper hawk]

scweamer

[mighty root]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-mitosis-gif-5938797153464928683

[frosty herald]

Sqweeeeeeeeeeeeeb

[mighty root]

https://tenor.com/view/dumbass-dog-girlcryptid-gif-1073297691415126986

[fiery ingot]

I AINT CLICKING THOSE LINKS TO WATCH A GIF BLAME THE MODS FOR MY DECISION

[mighty root]

https://tenor.com/view/far-cry-release-me-joseph-seed-gif-12887358985963630884

[fiery ingot]

fuck i clicked

[twin wagon]

It's joever

[fiery ingot]

[heady rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/hellokitty-hello-kitty-hellokittycry-hellokittyjump-gif-22031069

[hollow pasture]

hello everyone. I wanted to ask a basic question as a new player about the zealot class.

[copper hawk]

Henlo

[lean lark]

just wait 25 days

[hollow pasture]

just curious how zealot plays and is geared compared to the other classes

[lean lark]

frontline-ish, you're just always meant to be in the middle of everything. imagine a faster ogryn, essentially

[copper hawk]

Plays offensively, focused on crowd control and sustained horde killing, or lots of single target damage

[fiery ingot]

whatever you heard about zealot from the other chats its probably true

[copper hawk]

You lose strength the further you are from the frontline; you will learn to dodge more than you would any other class, and you come to learn enemy attack animations/patterns in order to survive

[hollow pasture]

this is the first chat ive tried, i started here becauser it sounded like the one most fun for me

[fiery ingot]

based

[copper hawk]

Dodging is fundamental to this character, as well as juggling tougher enemies (crushers, mixed mauler packs, etc)

[hollow pasture]

and thank you all for chatting about this with me

[copper hawk]

If u find zeal tough or unfun then I suggest startin with veteran, currently imo the best character for new players

[fiery ingot]

i'd say that depends. i found zealot to be easier than vet for me but i kinda already knew the drill of the melee since i came from vermintide

[heady rapids]

play ogryn first so that you get to savour the fun classes for last

[mild sparrow]

Slander

[copper hawk]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d5b8cc1-fd85-4229-a420-d6b5357d257a/snoozeful-sleepy-heavy-sword-training-wheels-build
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d2c2971-80d0-44d5-abb2-fac8b1b9e8cc/catboys-corsucator
Some sample builds that are both fun and strong to work towards

Go right side and get second wind asap, it's the best toughness generation that our class has

Now i zlumber, feel free 2 ping me or @hard nexus or any of the other regularz, we dont bite @hollow pasture

[hollow pasture]

ok will do. I am just gonna start playing zealot and try stuff.

[grizzled aspen]

And now we wait for them to figure out what is wrong with zealout as a class...

[remote lark]

me when i lock auric hi shock brute conscripts
and i get waves of poxhounds

[frosty herald]

Nah ill get a second item pack

Besides i need to practice chargeblade and hammer more

[lean lark]

you didnt hunt 20+ rey duas? noob.

[frosty herald]

I learned some more optimized plays for hammer and chargeblade will be a fresh weapon but i wanna learn to guard point the vial charge where you hold the shield infront of you

It looks really cool and you can clash with it

[lean lark]

i got a lot of practice with new swaxe and glaive, just waiting on the game to be out so i can put them in action

[silver stag]

Monster Hunter Wilds soon

[frosty herald]

I just wanna hunt gycepheros this weekend lol with practicing

[twin wagon]

Imagine playing hammer instead of hunting horn, LMAO

[stone fern]

🚬 when do older weapons get some of the new weapon animation mechanics. like PAs/SPA looping into respective clear and single target loops

like heavy sword 9 looping H1s after a special attack

[heady rapids]

hey maybe they should at least make all the mark useful first, what you're talking about is too advanced of a territory

[tepid sorrel]

having attack chains too complicated will anger the veteran playerbase beyond comprehension

[stone fern]

not that complicated like having heavy sword chain H1s wouldnt even be that good comparing it to the rest of the weapons we have now

[heady rapids]

homie I've seen people complain about power swords getting a new attack

[tepid sorrel]

unironically.

[grizzled aspen]

Fatshark, rework vet psword to not be a paperweight when off and give it relic blade heat mechanics... (also buff the mobility a bit please theres no way that thing is just as hard to move with as a fucking eviscerator)

[magic basin]

all power weapons need a update

sword, crusher and maul all are very sad compared to relicb

[north sedge]

Crusher is fine

[misty nova]

I'm all in for bringing back 7 swings Power Sword

[placid fiber]

Both of those are the same build, aside from the weapons on them lol

[fleet zealot]

Ferret, psyker chat

[grizzled aspen]

Crusher still definitely holds its own against rb, not sure where that's coming from, exactly.

[carmine falcon]

crusher doing multi hit stuns without needing to charge would be mega funny tho

[stone fern]

what if power weapons update then chainweapons update

[undone pewter]

Make chainsword damage linear

[grizzled aspen]

Make eviscerator great again...

[stone fern]

make sawing through an enemy stagger them

[carmine falcon]

i want evis special to work different but i really like doing the fotf + special attack trick for mega dmg

[magic basin]

the charge up mechanic, im not saying its weak its just clunky and has little use

[dusty spruce]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2371356931

[placid fiber]

[carmine falcon]

disagree
its much faster than the hammer and u need it to throw mixed hordes around
crusher in general is just really smooth to use

[grizzled aspen]

Empowering it lets you stagger whatever you want for free skullcrusher value, and thats 40% damage, just for using your weapon correctly. Also, holding a heavy increases the aoe on it, so you get even more skullcrusher value.

[placid fiber]

^

[grizzled aspen]

It's one of the cases where it's a strong weapon, people just use it wrong 95% of the time. See smite and assail, both, as another example of strong tools used wrong.

[dusty spruce]

Squeak (A 1400 hr trauma psyker learning zealot)

[grizzled aspen]

Hell, even running it without skullcrusher, and using thrust instead, it's an excellent weapon. I'm capable of oneshotting bulwarks with ease and I can still shit on whatever I want in melee.

[dusty spruce]

squeak (and straight into havoc 40... halp) ;-;

[grizzled aspen]

The only thing I even remotely slow down on is carapace, and that can be solved with a little elbow grease.

[carmine falcon]

jiggle peaking

[dusty spruce]

SQUEAAAAAAK (WHAT IS RAT EVEN MEANT TO DO THERE?!?!) x-x

[carmine falcon]

wtf was that drop at the end lmfaoooo

[placid fiber]

a face with xx for eyes

[placid fiber]

😵

[carmine falcon]

i have never seen someone parkouring in darktide actually crazy lmao

[placid fiber]

oh wait you mean on the twitch thing

[carmine falcon]

2:58 in the twitch clip yeah that was something else

[grizzled aspen]

Die.

[dusty spruce]

squeak (there are many rat holes scattered around every map. But having good map knowledge and move tech can really come in clutch)

squeak (unfortunately, rat greeded for the chests at the end and really shouldnt have) >.<

[placid fiber]

That was some serious parkour tho lol

[carmine falcon]

nice try nice try

[dusty spruce]

squeak (haha thank you frens)

[placid fiber]

At least you weren't disrespected like this player #ogryn-class message

[dusty spruce]

squeak (oml HAHA)

[placid fiber]

The disrespect from that crusher lol

[potent gate]

Rip the greed for ammo. Would have been a solid clutch

[pulsar zinc]

hope everyone's doin well! been a while since i've poked in

[undone pewter]

Watching your stream the other day you were just going places I couldn't believe my eyes

[fleet zealot]

Ferret in psyker chat in a box

[misty nova]

A Jack?
In a box?

[stone fern]

no hes going to the ferret shaving place

[hard nexus]

focus the reapers first (shoot them to death)

chastise into the gunners

dodge around and push them all to keep them running away/in melee

the chastise you did at 2:10 really shouldve been aimed at the gunners, youd have gotten more distance and easily couldve killed 2-3 of them

that was all just a really bad spiral due to the gunners

had you managed to kill the gunners, you couldve taken the whole thing much slower and likely been fine, the most dangerous thing wouldve been the captain spawn

[plucky gate]

wow this chat still doesn't have embeds? didn't expect it to last 2 weeks

[stone fern]

i fully expect it to never go away so u should just adapt

[mighty root]

https://tenor.com/view/glorpflex-glorp-flex-flexing-cat-gif-237031439715906425

[heady rapids]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/848702830889402368/1275850826744856667/spin.gif

[ornate bone]

Kino.

[misty nova]

We going for 2 years
Can I get an amen

[opal star]

I guess it's perma
goes to show we can't have shit w/o some goober ruining it

[vague depot]

Forgot to get my 40 in last week do I just start at 0 now or something

[misty nova]

You demoted to 39
At least that's how it should be

[nimble fiber]

[vague depot]

wallahi

[plush estuary]

day 5 of posting dorn's build for havoc 40 until slowmode ends

[misty nova]

Damn, that's top 0.1% build fire 🔥🔝💯💪

[plush estuary]

I should make one for every class

[misty nova]

Path will chew you alive
Deadvoid will set your soul ablaze
Idk who Ogryn, Hank I guess

[grizzled aspen]

Void is a giant idiot, though. Getting "flamed" by him doesn't really hurt, because he's willfully wrong.

[mighty root]

Void says you should take that o e node that gives you 40% peril generation and -30 toughness regen

Holy noob

[mighty root]

Please

[misty nova]

(one of the most broken nodes out there)

[normal wren]

Might add, and then spend tons of ordo dockets trying to get a single digit warp resistance staff, which is how a normal staff without that node works

[misty nova]

0 resist Electric staff

[spare dome]

hyper unoptimization

[normal wren]

Tbh I would keep one of those and rename it to "tzeentchs own stick"

[ebon bobcat]

Zealot needs a grenade launcher

[misty nova]

With a Loudener

[frozen crystal]

ER is good. A case can be made to not use it on inferno.

But this is an actual “get good” thing

[mighty root]

It can be i like it with void blast

[spare dome]

Idk i find the ER debate to be a bit of a nothingburger presently. If you want Warp Charges, you're going to take it because the alternative node on the path does literally nothing right now. So your choice is made for you.

[coarse birch]

It would be good for trauma spam yeah

[misty nova]

[mighty root]

But recently I’ve been loving staff scriers with dd I use trauma with it

[spare dome]

But yeah even at high havocs i don't find peril management so difficult that i need to take a node with a baked in detriment to handle my output. Battle Meditation on Purgatus basically solves all peril management by itself.

[mighty root]

Tried to give that but I must be blocked

[misty ravine]

If your build really wants to perilmaxx you might be better off taking a node that does nothing than one that cuts your Peril rate and Toughness regen

[coarse birch]

I should probably take at least meditation on my staff builds for havoc when im the only staff otherwise my uptime can be a bit too low

[mighty root]

That’s the main problem for me with that node is how it cuts my toughness

[plush estuary]

dont get hit? psyker has the most toughness regen nodes of the 4 classes

[mighty root]

So freaking true

[plucky gate]

If the reduced toughness gain is killing you, then don't take it
If it isn't, then take it
idk it isn't that deep

[plush estuary]

Psyker has 7 toughness generating nodes, if you are struggling with toughness, take some more

[spare dome]

It gets expensive to take them all. Soulstealer and/or Quietude is really all you need usually, even with ER.

I know I had pitched Battle Meditation to a friend who never considered it and he said it completely changed his life, lol. You basically never have to stop to quell with a high output staff.

[coarse birch]

Yeah even reduced toughness psyker can take like 3 regen nodes at the top and still be doing well toughness wise (esp if taking dome) or abusing their high mobility to not get hit anyway

[mighty root]

Tbh I couldn’t really tell a difference in my toughness gain but I like to have all I can get

And I use venting

But still I don’t want to get l shot at or nicked by a trash and there’s no enemies around or i can’t generate enough with Quietud

[coarse birch]

If your using a staff youll get it back anyway yeah. One trauma blast gives a ton back into any density

[spare dome]

It's the Vermintide 2 problem, where low density is when you die because there isn't enough shit around to generate toughness.

Three bruisers with one shooter at the back of a room is more dangerous than an elite wave with a mixed horde in a monstrosity fight

[coarse birch]

Yeah and gunners actually hurt you now (on havoc) so you cant always just push up and take the space

[mighty root]

This

[plucky gate]

i swear frog has been typing for 10 minutes. It better be the best essay i've ever read

[placid fiber]

He's planning to tell us off in 5 different languages

[plucky gate]

He's getting the citation page ready

[placid fiber]

It would be pretty cool if he gave us a 6 page essay tho

[grizzled aspen]

On the topic of toughness gen talents, lets just look at em all for a sec. (Discord has cucked me and forced me to slash this message in half)

Vet has 4,

Exhilarating Takedown (15% toughness and 10% tdr on ranged headshot kill, stacking 3 times)
Confirmed Kill (10% toughness on elite or specialist kill, then generate another 20% over 10s)
Out for Blood (5% toughness bonus on all kills, including ranged, blitz, and DOT kills)
Catch a Breath (5% toughness per second when no enemies are within 8m)

Zealout has 5,

Enemies Within, Enemies Without (2.5% toughness per second while within 5m of at least 3 enemies)
Vicous Offering (10% bonus toughness on heavy attack kill)
Voice of Terra (4% toughness on ranged kill)
Second Wind (15% toughness on dodge)
Blood Redemption (50% bonus toughness replenishment on melee kills [5% becomes 7.5%])

[spring storm]

waiting

[spare dome]

u are wrong and i will not read any further good day sir

[grizzled aspen]

Psyker has 5,

Soulstealer (7.5% toughness on warp attack kills)
Quietude (5% toughness for each 10% of peril quelled)
Warp Expenditure (2.5% toughness for every 10% peril generated)
Mettle (5% toughness on crits and 5% increased movement speed for 4s, stacking 3 times)
Souldrinker (5% toughness and 5% crit chance when an enemy dies to soulblaze DOT)

Ogryn has 8,

The Best Defence (20% toughness after hitting multiple enemies in one melee attack)
Smash 'Em (20% toughness after hitting a single enemy in melee)
Steady Grip (tooltip claims 5% toughness per second but it's apparently still bugged and does like 13%)
Stomping Boots (Indomitable aux node, 10% toughness per enemy hit while charging)
Bullet Bravado (PBB aux node, replenish 2% toughness per bullet fired and 10% toughness on each reload while PBB is active)
Stay Close (Aura, 25% more toughness replenished)
Feel No Pain (Keystone, 2.5% toughness replenishment per stack)
Unstoppable (HH aux node, 100% toughness replenishment when at 5 stacks)

I am not counting voc, chastise, or chorus, as they all generate toughness inherently.

[plucky gate]

Is EWEW still bugged to give like 3% instead or has that been fixed?

[spring storm]

🙏✍️🧐

[placid fiber]

Wouldn't it be 4% since at 5% it gave 8% per second, since it is 2.5% which is half of 5% so half of 8% would be 4%

[grizzled aspen]

Frankly I'm a little annoyed that vet has arguably the easiest toughness generation in exhilarating takedown, because you can legit just point blank shit with a laspistol or whatever for free 15% toughness...

[slow delta]

Which weapon stats should I consider when picking between Blazing Piety or Momentum for my build?

Say, on an Eviscerator vs on a Mk III Knife

[plucky gate]

i remember people mentioning ewew does some weird rounding with each tick and giving way more than just 2.5%
I can't remember the exact number, just that it was higher

[placid fiber]

it was roughly 8% toughness/second when it was supposed to be 5%(originally)

[grizzled aspen]

Evisc wants IJ badly, knife doesnt care what keystone you use, you could use martyr and have it work.

[plucky gate]

oh right, yeah that was pre talent tree
I wonder if a similar thing still happens

[mighty root]

This is why I don’t think that mode is good because you’re hurting yourself by taking its -30% toughness gen

[spare dome]

yea but that falls apart real quick the higher you go (havocs especially) since you have to expend a resource to get toughness and it has to be a kill on headshot

[grizzled aspen]

Oh wait I misread your question, oops, just dump normally, mobility on both weapons.

[slow delta]

No no, I did mean what to look at when deciding between the keystones.

[placid fiber]

I would have misread that question as well

[grizzled aspen]

I'm gonna be real, if you have issues managing the ammo of a laspistol outside of havocs, that's more telling of you than it is of the resource management aspect, itself.

[crisp cedar]

What are the best Relic Sword blessings for a Zealot?

[spare dome]

but thats the point, its great until it really fucking isnt. its out for blood thats crazy, giving +5% on everything you do and a net result of 10% on every melee kill

[grizzled aspen]

It is comically easy to have good ammo economy with laspistol, the finesse modifier is insane and it doesnt suffer reverse damage falloff.

[lean lark]

energy leakage rampage, wrath rampage, cranial rampage

[mighty root]

Cranial rampage or for havoc cranial wrath

[grizzled aspen]

Check pins.

[slow delta]

So, should I pick Blazing Piety for any weapon with good crit damage? Like Evi or Crusher

Obviously not on weapons with bad crit like Thunder Hammer, but it feels like every other Zealot melee has good or decent crit

[grizzled aspen]

Both evisc and crusher have awful mobility, they both want IJ. Relic blade wants piety, though, because you can actually cleave things and block to protect yourself instead of having to mainly rely on dodges.

[placid fiber]

Holy fuck: Someone who already knows piety is bad for the thammer?!

[plucky gate]

worth noting that IJ gives dodge buffs without mentioning it in the description

[slow delta]

The tree in general feels weird for me. All the crit talents are on the right side, except for Duellist and Blazing piety which are on the left. Feels a bit all over the place.

Hmm. Would most weapons IJ is good for, also do well enough with Martyrdom?

[mighty root]

Yarp that’s how zealot be

[grizzled aspen]

IJ is the catch-all keystone, everything works good on it. Piety is for weapons that have great finesse bonuses and crit adms. Martyrdom is the actual skill based keystone, where you have to carefully manage your health and not die like an idiot, for massive, consistent melee damage.

[mighty root]

Zealot has 2 builds

[spare dome]

martyrdom is also the only one that is exclusively melee bonuses with nothing else. peity and IJ affect your ranged output at least.

[tawny walrus]

What is a crit adms and how do I know if got it?

[placid fiber]

Welcome to zealot(non-havoc for this): #darktide-pics-vids message

[grizzled aspen]

For an example as to why you run relic blade on piety, headshot crits do 1.7x damage before buffs. Now throw in the 20% attack speed buff from fotf and 10% from faithful frenzy and you become a lawnmower with a ~60% crit chance.

[slow delta]

Also really, BP as good as IJ for the Knife? It has some crazy Crit modifiers from what I've seen, something like 3x or 4x the damage if you crit. Based on that I've been running BP on Knife. But then I also don't want to run BP on every weapon, yet it seems like every weapon has decent enough crit to run it on lol

[mighty root]

All of them take the beginning right then go to duelist

[mighty root]

I’d run ij on knife you become untouchable

[carmine falcon]

this is what i run and i crit so often my fotf is always available
this should not be possible with a goofy ass slow swining weapon but i love it

[grizzled aspen]

ADM's are the modifiers your damage is multiplied by to deal damage to armor types. Let's say your weapon has a carapace ADM of .2, so you only deal 20% damage to carapace with it. Crit ADM's are a separate set of numbers that are typically a good bit higher than the normal ones, they apply as you'd think: to critical hits.

[slow delta]

Hmm. How about Martyrdom Relic Blade?

[grizzled aspen]

Martyr relic blade is more than viable, you just need to not die.

[tawny walrus]

Can I see what the ADM is on a weapon by inspecting it?

[coarse birch]

You can see the damage into an armor type but not the actual adm

[placid fiber]

It's yoshi

[grizzled aspen]

Frankly, I've never bothered to see if you can check those numbers in game. You could probably figure it out based off of how much damage you do compared to unarmored, as unarmored is always 100%.

[carmine falcon]

what makes blocking on it more viable than the other two, the cleave or some hidden mechanic im not aware off?

[coarse birch]

But yeah unarmored is usually adm of 1 so you can just do the math from there to get adms or look at code

[grizzled aspen]

The stamina pool is large and you automatically block when doing your activation/deactivation animation.

[placid fiber]

^

[carmine falcon]

oh yeah i call it the "Relic sword parry" its crazy good to time it right when they're about to hit you

[grizzled aspen]

I don't ever turn the sword off by hand, though. Switching weapons, touching a teammate in any capacity, or being thrown by an enemy/explosion will turn it off for you.

[carmine falcon]

same, i only turn it off by hand if im running too cause it feeels faster?

[grizzled aspen]

I run rb with an agri infantry autogun in my pocket, so I can just 2 > 1 to turn it off instantly.

[coarse birch]

QQ is faster 99% of the time than manual

[placid fiber]

Q(-_-Q)

[carmine falcon]

true but i have an issue where sometimes the game doesnt insta switch when ping goes south and dont know why

[coarse birch]

Which is honestly unfortunate but its w/e

[carmine falcon]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/331 >there's a mod for it
ok so im not imagining things

[grizzled aspen]

Was about to say that mod exists.

[carmine falcon]

god bless modders

[placid fiber]

When ping gets high, shit stops working reliably

That mutie that just ran through you? Dodged. That mutie that ran by you 2m away? Grabbed

[coarse birch]

also, just in case you go into this, ADMs can be different per move, but the inspect screen will only show you the base damage of the first light and first heavy, so if you want ADMs for everything on a weapon you will need to look into the code

[grizzled aspen]

Anyway so the reason why I wrote out all those toughness talents earlier was just to highlight that ogryn can basically nullify the downside of ER if you're in coherency with him and he's using stay close as his aura.

[placid fiber]

I know it doesn't mean this, but, I still read that as elden ring...

[fleet zealot]

Ferret posting in psyker chat soon (3 seconds)

[misty ravine]

I try not to turn Relic Blade off mid-combat by weapon switching as it drops Cranial and Wrath stacks

[fleet zealot]

Non issue for rampage and leakage

[slow delta]

So, which blessings and perks for an IJ Knife? Mercy Killer and Uncanny Strike?

[fleet zealot]

Precog or riposte and uncanny

[tawny walrus]

Gotcha. Probably won't be digging into any code since i play on ps5

[grizzled aspen]

Mercy killer is a vet only blessing, run precog uncanny to take advantage of crit adms while using IJ.

[fleet zealot]

Why go mercy 60% weakspot if the target is bleeding, when precog is 60% to crits and weakspot

[coarse birch]

you can still check code, its just on the web. But yeah if you dont wanna dig into code youll just have to settle for checking the actual armor damage inspect gives you as it sadly doesnt go any deeper than that

[spare dome]

Stay Close is coherency regen only

[slow delta]

To combo it with Scourge, I was thinking

[fleet zealot]

Not really a combo, knife is a high damage weapon, scourge is really only there for crit chance

[grizzled aspen]

It doesn't read that way. :P

[spare dome]

Yeah I wish it worked the way it read, but alas. It's quite poopy.

[grizzled aspen]

Scourge exists only to give you crit chance, not to build bleed stacks.

[fleet zealot]

Vet can use serrated blade to always proc mercy killer, but they prefer raw consistency over our ramping. Precog and duelist talent lets you hit ridic high numbers

[misty nova]

Common Strength W

[naive stirrup]

added bonus damage to bosses

[coarse birch]

scourge wont give you any bleed really cause the target will just die before bleed is gonna do anything, but the crit chance can be nice on occasion

[grizzled aspen]

Also, hot take, I don't use scourge on ds or knife. Anything I crit dies in one shot to begin with.

[placid fiber]

The main time scourge is gonna apply is when light spamming or against monsters :/

[coarse birch]

i dont actually use knife on zealot i use it on psyker but you can go without scrouge probs yeah if you have something else you wanna spend it on

[fleet zealot]

Its relatively minor in practice

Proper rotation on the bosses head and at most your bleed will be 10% of your damage

[naive stirrup]

true but i like to think it does. placebo is real

[fleet zealot]

It’s mostly for the 30% crit chance, usually in the hectic fights or boss when you need it the most

[grizzled aspen]

"Hectic fights" and bosses don't scare me enough to have me run scourge on ds or knife.

[naive stirrup]

if you're skipping scourge on the knife im killing you

[grizzled aspen]

You aren't powerful enough to kill me.

[naive stirrup]

common misconception

[fleet zealot]

30% crit is pretty important when you have nearly a 3.0 finesse ratio

reminds me i need to rebind special so i can special light on knife easier

[carmine falcon]

i have my special on side mouse button
smooth af

[grizzled aspen]

Something about flak gunners...

[fleet zealot]

I have fat fingers and thumbs so special on the side of my mouse im liable to press the other 3 buttons near it

[naive stirrup]

atoned for
consider immolation

[grizzled aspen]

Your special is on the side of your mouth? Weird keybinds man smh...

[median steeple]

Mine is as well

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/korone-hololive-goodbye-meme-thank-you-gif-17585264928027507902

Minor spelling mistake

[safe glade]

if you could choose between deathspitter and fire frenzy on a graia braced auto, which would you choose? I want to experiment with ceaseless barrage

[grizzled aspen]

I wouldn't use a brauto.

[dusty spruce]

Squeak (thank you for watching fren!)

[dusty spruce]

Squeak (rat will keep that in mind)

[spare dome]

Ceaseless barrage is pretty doodoo sadly, but between FF and DS it's DS all the way. Frenzy only boosts close range damage while Deathspitter is a Power bonus with no range limitation on the effect, just on the proc.

That means extra damage, stagger, and suppression at all ranges so long as you are scoring some kills within 12.5m, versus only receiving bonus damage and only in close range with FF.

[safe glade]

Thanks. How is it doodoo though?

extra suppression + 30% dmg doesn't sound bad

[spare dome]

You don't really need the extra suppression on a BAG and the damage bonus is contingent on perpetual magdumps. Fire Frenzy + Deathspitter would be better and more flexible

You can actually pause and reaquire a target without losing the stacks, or even reload. Or swap to melee for a quick kill and swap back.

[safe glade]

I guess so

[sturdy wraith]

Damn
How in the hell am I supposed to do the "Just a flesh wound"?

[ornate bone]

Very fast

[sturdy wraith]

Fair enough

[spare dome]

Train mission is best

[copper hawk]

Different wpnz NOOBE

[acoustic dune]

ey ey zealot
working hard or working harder#

[tawny walrus]

Hardly working

[sterile basalt]

Strength doesn’t affect suppression

[spare dome]

bwuaaaah

[normal wren]

Autopistol is the best suppressor

[spare dome]

man im taking multiple knowledge L's lately arent i

[placid fiber]

"-aside from the weapons on them lol"
"Different wpnz NOOBE"
... no fucking shit lol

[fleet zealot]

Both and ditch ceaseless

[zealous mesa]

He wants to try ceaseless

[placid fiber]

Welcome to my world

I got an alternate take on the in the jungle thing from the lion king
"a wiener dog a wiener dog, a wiener dog a wiener dog, a wiener dog a wiener dog a wiener dog a wiener dog: In the jungle, the mighty jungle the dachshund prowls toniiiiight! In the jungle, the mighty jungle the dachshund rules da niiiiiiiiiiiight!!!"

[copper hawk]

Nooooobe !! Hasnt even completed h40 yet teeheeeeee !! Also still slowmode ,, AGONY !!!!

[placid fiber]

Yay, I am more sane! :3

Also @copper hawk : Noob, doesn't even main novakid. >:3

[copper hawk]

Evis is fine w piety; it's kind necessary with the way you set up Evis 3 (that being with perfect strike and shred)

[placid fiber]

^

[copper hawk]

The XV evis IJ is the better option in most cases since it doesnt have the same cleave issues that the evis 3 has

Aaaaand the xv's horde clear are lights, which have a damage cap of only 4 targets so cleave isnt all that important

[placid fiber]

@copper hawk Cica, look at these floran stats #darktide-pics-vids message

[copper hawk]

The XV you generally set up a traditional IJ build with the blessings for the XV being Rampage + whatever - Shred if you want to keep maximum uptime with IoD + Chastise, or run Bloodthirsty and Elites to chain OHKs on Crushers and others

[placid fiber]

I can get a 6x6 manipulator size on the apex cause they get +1x1 radius to it >.>

normally 5x5 is the max

[copper hawk]

Generally, with Keystones, they should compliment your melee and its blessings IMHO with how you decide to use them, as well as talents

[placid fiber]

I'm gonna get re-addicted to starbound again, at this rate

The whole build your own ship is awesome

[copper hawk]

If you run evis 3 you should run Piety to deal w the cleave issue (Perfect Strike only procs on crits), right side piety for maximum usage of PS (instead of having to wait for Shred stacks before you get full use from it), and if you run piety you should 100% run right side to take crit tdr

[placid fiber]

Have you ever seen a liquid beer planet, in Starbound, Cica?

[copper hawk]

IJ you should also run right side cuz of the dodge stuff u get from Second Wind and Good Balance, since IJ buffs dodges and reduces the reset timer on dodges

[placid fiber]

^

[copper hawk]

And it covers the other evis weakness, one of many, that being its piss poor dodges and the piss poor damage distribution the evis has on cleaved targets

[copper hawk]

Noh

[placid fiber]

I've found ocean plants with beer, honey, irridium, alien fluid, lava, etc for liquids lol

It's awesome

[fleet zealot]

And being slow on normals anyways

[copper hawk]

Hopefully playtesterz get roundfish 2 do somethin about the Esloperatorz ,,

[fleet zealot]

Ferret posted in psyker chat

[placid fiber]

lol this is what I saw first after you said that #psyker-class message

[fleet zealot]

Not going to happen, i made the big chaxe lobby and we are suppressing eviscerators

[placid fiber]

Love the ferret you posted, btw

[fleet zealot]

I gave fatfish 100 bazillion aquilas so they will do what i say

[copper hawk]

I made this anthrax nail bomb pipe bomb and im sendin it 2 ur front door

[placid fiber]

"I'll get my own darktide lobby... with blackjack, and hookers!"

[copper hawk]

Usps next day shippin no stopz hot pipebomb mail potato

[modern lintel]

noobbomb

[placid fiber]

This is the thing I am referencing, for those who don't know #psyker-class message

[fleet zealot]

My cpu cooler has arrived now time to install this without breaking my old pc

[placid fiber]

Good luck! o7

[tawny walrus]

Is the holy combat knife the only weapon i should be running a +3 stam curio? Or any other situations (aside from preference) that id want +3?

[stone fern]

no luck ALL SKILL

[fleet zealot]

Crusher maul, mk4 chain axe, dclaw

[placid fiber]

immediately swearing and explosions are heard

[obsidian prairie]

Tac axe does lots of PA’s
Crusher also has a powerful PA but also a pretty good stamina pool

[fleet zealot]

Taxe too and antax combat axe

[tawny walrus]

Gotcha thanks yall. What about mk2 rb? Iirc the horde clear combo starts with a pa. I'm not sure if that warrants a +3

[spare talon]

i refuse to run any weapon on zealot or veteran without a +3 stam
you cannot make me do it

[fleet zealot]

Okay general advise how do i get my aio out of my case

I got it unhooked from the cpu and it’s off but im pretty sure im just stripping the screws holding the fan and radiator part

[stone fern]

gently

[placid fiber]

"Slowly, gently, this is how a life is taken" -Darkest Dungeon

[delicate shadow]

disassembly will depend on the part, please tell me you've got a manual

[fleet zealot]

I lost it in the last 9 years

[stone fern]

manual
ok old man
@fleet zealot look up a youtube tutorial on your same case type

[fleet zealot]

I think i know where to unscrew and i’ve lined it up i think the screws are just old, im stripping them

[delicate shadow]

look back in my day we had to actually learn how to build our PCs instead of watching some weirdo dump 3 liters of thermal paste onto his cpu

[fleet zealot]

You gonna hate this but i don’t know what case this specifically is.

[plucky gate]

what does it look like?

[fleet zealot]

Its uhh i buypower iirc, costco had a collab with them, 1070 gpu, 4.2ghz processor

It’s just old screws how do you get them out assuming i just have a hand screw driver

Listen i know i may be stupid, but it’s just screws rn

The screws on the back of the case, holding the aio radiator and the back fan

How do i get out if they are old and stripping

[plucky gate]

old overtightened screws are just gonna be hard to unscrew without stripping.
all i can really say is using a screwdriver that's the right size will help

[fleet zealot]

I got uhh the basic starred one

I guess it could be the wrong size one sec i posted a picture in psyker chat yea it looks a bit too big

[plucky gate]

Yeah that's a phillips head screw
They're the most common but super prone to stripping.
It's kinda made worse by how they "work" with screwdriver bits that are the wrong size, which tends to make stripping worse

[fleet zealot]

Is there a cheat

Or am i going to have to spend more money

[placid fiber]

Yes, a low low cost of 23 payments of $99.99!

[fleet zealot]

Lemme call around my fam

[violet hornet]

phillips heads were designed for use in assembly lines where camming out was beneficial since there's less chance you'll overtighten your screw while quickly and sloppily using a power tool

[fleet zealot]

Okay

[violet hornet]

I know super helpful right

[plucky gate]

I've heard of a few tricks to get screws out after they're already stripped, although i haven't tried/succeeded with them much.
Stuff like using a rubber band to get more friction/contact, cutting a line in the screw with and using a flathead screw, even heard of people using pliers to turn them.
As for preventing it from getting stripped in the first place, best you can do is try to get good contact so it's not putting a lot of pressure on a few points and wearing it down. Making sure you have the right size so it has a snug fit, holding the screw driver straight on so it's not at an angle, etc. Unfortunately if it's super tight, you might just be screwed

[delicate shadow]

I don't see how you could be stripping those screws without them having been massively over torqued

[violet hornet]

you could try putting a cut section of rubber band in there to help grip or gently tapping your screwdriver in with a hammer to help it get a proper fit

[delicate shadow]

(using a philips head on a screw clearly too small for it also doesn't help but that's been said already)

[fleet zealot]

Must be massively overtorqued

They are in their harder than havoc 40

I could probbaly try pliers and rubber band trick

[static sky]

Righty righty. Lefty loosey!

[fleet zealot]

[static sky]

I live in Wisconsin. Rusty nuts and silly screws are an everyday occurrence. I feel your pain brotha. The emperor is with you. If righty righty-lefty loosey doesn’t work. Pray to the omnissiah.

[fleet zealot]

Im praying

[gleaming furnace]

Drill them out

[fleet zealot]

I got this fancy air cooler and i can’t even begin to install it 😭 (17$ fancy)

[fleet zealot]

How much does it cost to rent?

[static sky]

You’d have to do it yourself with a cordless drill. And possibly use an extractor.

[fleet zealot]

Yea im going to try rubber bands and pliers first

Both those sound outside my budget (30$)

[static sky]

I just seen the pic of what your up against. Use a nail file like on fingernail clippers and make them into flat head screws.

If the pliers don’t work. And can you feel around behind it? Maybe it’s got a nut or lock washer of some sort. And my very last thoughtful input. Maybe they are reverse threaded and maybe it’s really lefty tighty-righty loosey.

[grim nest]

What are the best blessings for charge Zealot on Duelling sword? Riposte/Uncanny?

[fleet zealot]

Well i looked around and found neither, and it’s a winter storm rn so no going out

[fleet zealot]

Thrust precog probably tho any combination of the good blessings will work, even rampage outside of high havoca

[violet hornet]

Electrical tape might work too, or the sticky part of a non-fabric bandaid

[static sky]

First path to true glory is to know when your beat. Fall back, recouperate and re attack under better circumstances.

[fleet zealot]

You know what i might have some bandaids

[violet hornet]

Real mcguyver shit right here

[frozen kernel]

It may provide just enough grip for the screwdriver head without just hopefully getting ground up when you twist

Honestly depends if you’ve got band aid brand or “pilfered a handful from the first aid kit at work” ones

[visual stream]

Thank you bluey space marine, very cool

[placid fiber]

That's a great nickname for them lol

[static sky]

Just don’t tell the kreigers.

[visual stream]

No one likes the kriegers 💪

[acoustic dune]

@fleet zealot oh great ferret poster i have come once more to ask to ferret pics
prease grant us some morsel of thy gallery

[uneven galleon]

Funny I'm seeing this after that one Flashgitz Bluey animation

[fleet zealot]

Psyker chat

[placid fiber]

Interesting, but, why post a blue whale?

[acoustic dune]

o great ferret poster i praise thee to be so merciful as too grant us a morsel of thy nectars once more

[frozen kernel]

Monolith mf’s be like

[placid fiber]

Why is clad jumping in your pfp?

[frozen kernel]

Because Discord rewarded me for terrorism

[placid fiber]

[acoustic dune]

ye speak of wack ass shit
ferret are great

[frozen kernel]

I actually tried Cloak and Dagger for the first time and dropped 41 elims while shoveling rice in my gob

[frozen kernel]

I skipped breakfast and my brain is just…not

[steel agate]

Barely any/no sustenance can do that to a brain

[sullen forge]

My discord background blends in so well with this I actually thought this was just eyes till I saw the Wolp

[steel agate]

Get urself a hefty meal if u can, banx

[hard nexus]

fnaf songs r so good

[placid fiber]

The guy I listen to made some fnaf songs <.<

[hard nexus]

who

[placid fiber]

Aviators

[placid fiber]

Let's see... Mechanical Instinct, Jaws, Sweet Dreams, Alive, Our Little Horror Story, The Monsters Under My Bed. Those are the ones I can ese so far for his fnaf songs

[hard nexus]

holy pawesome..

[placid fiber]

he makes songs based off of whatever gives him inspiration

[visual stream]

Yeah C&D is so simple and meta simultaneously

Their ult makes the team invincible except against one-shots, which cloak's right click can ALSO make the entire team invincible against one-shots so

[frozen kernel]

I was just thinking “oh there’s only two supports I’m not really comfortable on let’s give them a try”

When it flashed MVP at the end my buddy was like “nice!” then it flipped the 41 elims and I was like “I WHAT”

So I promptly spent what little blue currency I had on her green jacket skin because it’s fire

[placid fiber]

Sweet, I think I found and removed the mod I didn't want from Starbound! Rip all of my progress lol

Yep, it crashes if I try to open a character now... better delete em lol

[sullen forge]

This is why you always save back ups of your characters on starbound I learned this the hardway

[placid fiber]

Eh, I hadn't even defeated 1 boss yet so I am not worried lol

[modern lintel]

noobbound

[placid fiber]

Also: Cica, I would play floran this time but fuck being a carnivore only! I want to be an omnivore lol @copper hawk

[sullen forge]

Well I play Frackin Universe after beating vanilla, so I have to to make sure my shit doesn’t get voided

[placid fiber]

I'm tempted to do my usual and go avian, for the reduced fall damage... but I kinda want to try something different as well lol

[modern lintel]

played 7days2die last night in a trio for like 9 hours we live in the desert on a bridg and so far iv made 2 obelisk out of the earth from digging

put a bunch of stained glass and candles around one of them no ones noticed yet

[placid fiber]

I have pony races for some reason... and I've never used them in Starbound :/

[heady rapids]

i really hate how 7dtd got turned into a shitty grindy pseudo rpg from a sandbox

[sterile stone]

I've seen so many people praise the game, the graphical fidelity just look so ass to me to get into it.

It looks like a shitty late gen ps2 game in terms of quality.

[heady rapids]

it basically is

[copper hawk]

U r an omnivore doofus it came free w being a plant

[heady rapids]

which is pretty sad cause it's the only game that fills the niche of a zombie survival something something i cant call it a sandbox lol

[delicate shadow]

I remember playing 7dtd back in 2014 lmao

[sullen forge]

It’s rotting in my steam library still untouched

[copper hawk]

instead of needing 2 eat the plant 4 energy (herbivore) u just produce the energy, ur still an omnivore except u skip the plant step

[heady rapids]

the versions back from 2014 are unironically better than current releases

[modern lintel]

its fun game to play w friends more so just to talk shit not rlly focus to hard on the game

[delicate shadow]

I came back to it in like 2018 and had fun with it but it's still about as janky somehow

[copper hawk]

U r rlly an omni omnivore ,, ur an autotroph !!!

[sterile stone]

Still waiting on blight to come out, knowing damn well it more than likely is either a scam or will remain in development hell for eternity

[placid fiber]

Sorry, but, frackins makes them carnivores

[copper hawk]

U dont gets it ,, they get food from the sun !! Ur an autotroph !! U eat the sun instead of needin 2 eat the plant that ate the sun !!

Ur both a primary producer and an apex predator !! Ur an omnivore !! U skip the plant step cuz u R the plant

[modern lintel]

photosynthesis noob

[copper hawk]

Ur the ultimate lifeform ,, carnivorous plant ,, or photosynthetic animal ?? Woa.. u pickz ,,

Florans r so cool.. plantz r so cool.. i miss volunteerin 4 plant nurseries

[sullen forge]

Holy shit that game, I forgot about its existence completely but it looked really fucking cool

[modern lintel]

id be a sea anemone

[copper hawk]

(Frackin makes them regen hunger and and hp, as well as energy at max of both, if ur in the sun)

[sterile stone]

I doubt it's ever gonna release, last trailer was like 2-3 years ago.

[copper hawk]

(U eat the sun)

[sullen forge]

I played as a shark in FU… and I’d die to anything electric based like immediately -90% electric resistance got me fucked up

[sterile stone]

I'm just waiting on the Dune mmo to drop and see if that hits.

[modern lintel]

will still have it b4 es6 prob

[copper hawk]

The idea of a space faring race that needs to take sunlight breaks or have to eat more is pawesome; also makes sense a photosynthetic auto/heterotrophic hybrid animal would need to eat meat

[sterile stone]

I'm waiting to see if Todd keeps his promise, I'm wagering ES6 got scrapped and rewritten so many times due to Todd's sheer narcissism.

[sullen forge]

Exploring unknown seas for the sole purpose to find an infinite source of some liquid you’re too lazy to produce

[sterile stone]

But hey if it flops, Todd said he may just retire so who knows.

[copper hawk]

Your essential amino acids cant be produced for muscle and other tissue to function, and only some plants can synthesize certain amino acids

[sullen forge]

Well that and I’d immediately colonize a gas giant cause holy shit metallic hydrogen my beloved

[stone fern]

nah Todds son is a big ES enjoyer i think he found out what his dad was doing and threw a tantrum. the young howard is our only hope...

[modern lintel]

hydrogen sharks

[sterile stone]

I didn't even know Todd had a kid wtf...

[copper hawk]

So it like covers your most basic needs for sustenance but you need to consume things that produce the other stuff/store it, like animals or other plants, to keep the eukaryotic (animal) cells functioning (along w the other unique kinds of eukaryotic cells that make up the pawesome tissues that make up ur body)

[sullen forge]

Look man that source is like a god particle to me in the stupid amounts of things it lets me do, mainly powering my ship and generators

[white mason]

Is Thrust good on the Thunder hammer?

[modern lintel]

mandatory

[copper hawk]

Best in slot actually, slaught/hter is the other BiS blessing

[stone fern]

todds family life follows the protags of games he releases starfield finally had a good family relationship

[copper hawk]

Run flak unyield/cara on the Crucis w Thrust/HTer or Slaught, dump defences, never run Piety

[modern lintel]

i remember finding wyatt earp and genghis khan in starfield and shitting a brick in confusion

[sterile stone]

Starfield was was a painful experience.

[white mason]

Better than runic blade?

[vast basin]

Is th better than relic blade? Generally, no

[white mason]

Yea I thought not

[stone fern]

one enjoyable quest
@sterile stone i finished the entire game twice in 120 hours by simply skipping loading screens and teleporting to quest markers

[copper hawk]

And florans move around so they cant absorb nutrients slowly through the soil/moisture via root uptake etc ,, ZO COOLE !!

[modern lintel]

the only thing thammer has is being able to meme bosses

[copper hawk]

They fulfill different roles so it's hard to say, but for general purpose the Relic Blade is better

[sterile stone]

The pirates unironically coulda just been the main questline for starfield and I bet the community woulda been happy.

[copper hawk]

The II RB does a lot of single target boss damage under the right circumstances, but the THammer does the same with less investment

[sterile stone]

That wa about the best quest chain that game had.

[stone fern]

nah nah i just half joined the pirates and the colonists so no one aggros on me and i can play the rest of the slop game in peace

[sullen forge]

I never bothered playing Starfield I think it’s pretty funny all these games I just never bothered picking up were bullets I dodged

[copper hawk]

A better comparison would be with a similar weapon of the same type, like the Dueling Sword

[modern lintel]

i still never did that corpo questline in starfield

[copper hawk]

And the answer to, "is the THammer better than the DS?" is a big nooooooooo w a lil weepin guy next to it

[sterile stone]

Spacers, rogue ai

[copper hawk]

Everything is worse at single target compared to a properly built DS - the ds 5 i swear has better chaff horde clear lmfao

[vast basin]

Tbf you can say that about any weapon which isn't knife

[stone fern]

like every part of starfield could have been good
UC had some cool horror quests but that was like 1 good quest
corpo had 1 good quest where you actually had a choice
uhhh new vegas in space area had 1 good quest
pirates had like 2
the entire game could have been fun but it was all just giga slop

[modern lintel]

the only reason i even played starfield was gamepass tbh

[sterile stone]

Best thing on gamepass was wasteland 3

[copper hawk]

The DS does have like one weakness though, that being horde clear - there are plenty of better weapons than it in that regard; weapons that are designed for single target are all mid compared to the DS (knife included actually)

[sterile stone]

Ehhhh

[copper hawk]

Oh and horde CC, which is a bit different than clear

[vast basin]

Well sure there are weapons better than it at certain things, but if you asked me "is x better than DS?" I would almost always say no

[stone fern]

ok thinking super super the quests i remember (good quests)
the lost AI
the lost colonist ship(fuck this quest tho they gave us two shit choices)
the clone world
the dead space shit in UC
aaand thats it thats all i remember

[copper hawk]

Too reductive me thinkiez

[sterile stone]

I don't remember half of those things.

[stone fern]

hot british captain

[sterile stone]

The white chick with the blonde hair?

[vast basin]

Me thinkiez you the gay 🫃

[copper hawk]

Like there are things where I'd say "yes" to, like with Moebian modifier, or with every enemy that isn't a mauler, crusher, or boss

[stone fern]

no white chick with dark hair she was on a ship that didnt have an ftl drive so they spent a few generations there until they reached a planet only to find out it had people

[copper hawk]

Like the Rashad or HS 9, properly built, on Zealot, have a significantly better time clearing and managing big hordes of mixed chaff and armor, and w different hitmasses for those within

[sterile stone]

The snake cult chick?

[stone fern]

no https://starfield.fandom.com/wiki/ECS_Constant

[copper hawk]

Kars on Oggy can two shot crushers too and kill like 7 enemies a swing

[sterile stone]

Ohhhhh wait wait wait nvm I know who you're talking about, yeah they didn't realise humanity advanced by a metric shit load while they were in stasis

[modern lintel]

borovian gang

[stone fern]

no stasis they had generations on that ship

[tawny walrus]

Karsola?

[sterile stone]

And they were gonna colonize a planet but you go down there and find out humanity already turned it into a luxury resort

[copper hawk]

Yah

[stone fern]

yeah i was PISSED the game didnt let me slaughter everyone on that planet smh

[tawny walrus]

Crushers bonk combo is like PA > Heavy > Light right?

[sterile stone]

Game doesn't reward you for being a psychotic murder hobo, surprise surprise.

[copper hawk]

H1 Light repeating too, but that combo (PA, H1, L1) is better cuz a crit headshot w the push attack does bonus damage (that specific attack has a huge finesse modifier on it for some rsn)

[modern lintel]

i did like the one quest where you go to save a guy based on a raido call but when you get there the place is trashed and the radio call came from a different reality or something where he was still alive

[tawny walrus]

Time to run +3 stam oggy for crusher packs

[copper hawk]

Oh u mean CRUSHER enemies not CRUSHER weapon like the one we have for zeal

[sterile stone]

???

[copper hawk]

Push attack/special action Heavy then Light w Slaught/HTer and Heavy Hitter all max means a crusher is dead in two hits witb the Kars

[modern lintel]

[stone fern]

nah not me, i was just really into the captain

[copper hawk]

This is assuming you're running HH Ogryn (like u should), and are using HTer and Slaught on it w a Defences/Mobi dump (like u should)

[stone fern]

OH YEAH I JUST REMEMBERED the hiest quest was alright
theres like 1-2 good quests per faction what the fuck did they do in 10 years

[tawny walrus]

Yee!

[sterile stone]

There's a doc about the work culture at bethesda.

[copper hawk]

Dont ,, just use the special attack button lol

[sullen forge]

And people get super pissed about this with any game, I will never understand how murder hoboing is fun 🚬

[copper hawk]

It's better cuz it staggers and pulls enemies close to you; u can use it to stagger bulwarks so u can hit them in the head over their shield

[sterile stone]

From what's been told, alot of devs will just pick the most Todd approved thing instead of innovating instead of going up to him to propose new ideas cause he has a tendency to shut down any new ideas.

[tawny walrus]

I know i was just being a goofball lol

[sterile stone]

Granted this was told by a former Bethesda employee so, take that as you will.

[copper hawk]

No fun allowed ,, cant u see we're in slowmode !!

[sullen forge]

Daily flagellations will continue until morale improves

[stone fern]

🚬 what happened to the main that made morrowind hell what happened to the man that made skyrim, even that was better

i think hes in a depressive spiral the more people buy skyrim the more he realizes hell never make anything better

[sterile stone]

I mean people leave dude, I know people want a New Vegas 2 from Obsidian but the harsh reality is, probably 1/3 of that team if not more dipped out years upon years ago.

[stone fern]

yeah its never gonna happen. i think only small to medium studios can make good stuff anymore

i got control for free on epic and that was seriously some of the most fun i had in a single player game in a very long time

[tawny walrus]

Control was really good. Made me go back to Alan Wake and play Alan Wake 2

[sullen forge]

No no let it happen so the NV fans can tweak the fuck out over it “not being faithful” to the original series when none of the original Obsidian devs are there anymore

[stone fern]

bruh even sawyer and the other dude are so sick of new vegas and answering questions about it theyll enver go back

[remote lark]

hi clad

[sterile stone]

I know for a fact we ain't getting even an announcement for the next follow until a few odd years after ES6 drops

[obsidian oak]

Still waiting for ES6

[sullen forge]

I literally want it to happen solely to see the NV Chuds have a nuclear meltdown cause it’s fucking hilarious

[sterile stone]

Gonna be in my early 30s before I get word of a new fallout game, that's just a sad reality to face.

[stone fern]

i gave up already bethesda died when starfield dropped. i also blocked bethesda on steam so i never have to see their slop again

[eternal tide]

aside from Flamer, are there other good crowd clearing guns?

[sullen forge]

By then I’ll probably be in my very late 20’s lmao

[sterile stone]

They didn't die when they kept re-releasing skyrim for over a decade

[obsidian oak]

brace gun

[stone fern]

not really maybe braced autoguns but you're not really supposed to clear with guns

[sullen forge]

“Braced Auto” technically

[eternal tide]

m just not fond of the whole "start up" flamer does before spraying

[visual stream]

Bolter if you like misty weather

[obsidian oak]

Hoping Starfied wont be a signifier for what ES6 will be like, hoping they have a differnt dev department for eaach game

[stone fern]

like if you're in range for deathspitter and firefrenzy brauto can clear a hoard with like half a mag but clearing with guns isnt ideal

[tawny walrus]

I hope Preston Garvey makes a cameo in es6

[sullen forge]

You should be mainly using melee to horde clear anyways

[eternal tide]

fair point

[obsidian oak]

A Jarl near by needs your help, Ill mark it on your map

[eternal tide]

I know Knife doesnt have a bad horde clear, but is there something better while still being potent in focused strikes? I refuse touching DS though

[tawny walrus]

The caxe is pretty cool on zealot

[eternal tide]

Rashad w/ Brutal Momentum? 🤔

[stone fern]

🚬 i had a bat file in f4 that auto completed all settlement quests whenever i got one

[visual stream]

Ironhelm thunder hammer has yummers horde clear and one shots anything but bosses

[eternal tide]

thats definitely smtn I did not expect

[tawny walrus]

Preston disliked that but I don't blame ya

[visual stream]

It's a general use weapon, you can forget you have a ranged weapon for the entire match if you're good with it tbh

[eternal tide]

trying it out rn in the psykhanium

is the horde clear Hold Hold Push?

[visual stream]

I keep a bolter for "oh shit" moments like rager and crusher swarms but helm can easily deal with crushers without taking hits by itself anyway

[visual stream]

Horde clear for trash is spamming activated heavies, if you don't hold down attack while charging it up again you'll loop the horizontal heavies instesd of the strikedown heavy

If it's not that deep for you to be activating every attack, alternate light-heavy starting with light

[eternal tide]

wait sooo

activate > heavy > activate > heavy loop?

[visual stream]

Do you know how to build a thammer? It's one of the weapons in the game whose performance really relies on an objectively correct setup sadly

[eternal tide]

ima try it out

yeah I think it requires right side tree near the end iirc

[visual stream]

I was talking about the weapon itself but yes, I'll send the tree that I use in a moment because that's also important

[eternal tide]

ohhh Thrust and Headtaker no?

[visual stream]

Thrust and slaughterer for Ironhelm, with carapace and flak for perks
Also sending tree pic in #darktide-pics-vids

[eternal tide]

thanks! ima save it

[visual stream]

@ me if you have any questions about using it/how to hit breakpoints

[zealous basin]

https://tenor.com/view/akira-tetsuo-gif-26257204

its been like 3 days let me post gifs damnit

[visual stream]

The rot consooms

How freaky did this chat get for slowmode and attachment perms to still be gone

[frozen kernel]

Todd longingly at the Dragonborn helmet like a washed up D1 athlete and their class ring

[eternal tide]

if I remember but I really want THammers to work for me. I like Bonk weapons

[remote lark]

another day
another slowmode

[remote lark]

pregnant art was posted repeatedly

[visual stream]

Was it knify

[remote lark]

[visual stream]

I only ask because that's the only resident artist I know here

[remote lark]

yes knify and his pregnant mogburster became a frequent subject of discussion

[visual stream]

I REMEMBER THE MOGBURSTER
I was not aware it got preggers

[obsidian oak]

w a t

[visual stream]

Don't think too hard about it little grey namer

[obsidian prairie]

I think knify states it explicitly isn't

[remote lark]

knify is a liar

[visual stream]

I think we should cease this convo before mods ||rightfully|| extend our freak timeout corner though

[eternal tide]

brother in christ, I spent dockets and crafting CAXE, gave me a 310 w/ 60 mobility then upgrading to 500

next mission I finish it gave me aCaxe w/ 460 power and 60 mobility

arthur_fist_angry.gif

[mighty root]

HIS WHAT

[mighty root]

Nvm I found it and i can’t stop laughing

[copper hawk]

God is weeping

[mighty root]

Oh my god I’m crying

[copper hawk]

Yo mama

[mighty root]

🫃

[mighty root]

Ur daddy

[misty nova]

Ooh FC new dawn on game pass

[mighty root]

Was thinking what character can cause the most debuffs?

[naive stirrup]

i just watched a knife zealot die to trash again

[misty nova]

Vet
Onslaught goes up to 40% brittle
Exploit Weakness adds another 20% brittle
Get a pen flames Psy/Zel and that's another 20%

[mighty root]

Isn’t soulblaze and flames there own debuff?

As in you can apply both?

[static sky]

He was probably trying to to snipe elites and you let him get clobbered by trash. Bro did his best I bet.

[hard nexus]

and throw rending strikes on top for funsies

[vague depot]

But isn’t the literal purpose of the knife to snipe elites while taking care of a horde

There’s no commitment whatsoever unless if your character is 3 feet tall you literally just look and throw

[static sky]

It’s not the best at horde clear. Knife zealots have a bad rep for running ahead and getting walloped. Or aggroing hordes and stealthing away. If you can see your knife zealot he’s doing his job. Protecting flanks and picking off specials and elites.

[vague depot]

Ok that’s my fault I automatically assumed it was throwing knife and not combat knife 💀

I might be cooked

[naive stirrup]

fury of the faithful
so he was a frontliner

[static sky]

Ouch lol. No scuses then.

[frozen kernel]

I had to reread the comment a few times before I wasn’t like “knife…hordeclear… “

[naive stirrup]

it's fine your pfp is funny you get a pass

[vague depot]

My memory has been getting really bad lately idk why I saw knife zealot and completely ignored the literal knife melee

[naive stirrup]

based
knife is boring anyway

[vague depot]

I liked how you could move faster with it and the overhead push attack but that was pretty much it

[copper hawk]

I CANT STOP WATCHING THE BOYS !!!!!!!

[violet hornet]

this would be true even if there wasn't a show by that name

[copper hawk]

LMFAO fuck u..

[violet hornet]

boywatcher

[median steeple]

Yumm

[grizzled aspen]

You fool, that's what he wants...

[median steeple]

I need Bloodborne on PC so I can ascend to worm in 60fps

[grizzled aspen]

I need my autism to stop clocking in for 12 hour shifts. I just automated the creation of dragons breath in modded mc solely so I can turn it into power. I used the power to make the power.

[fleet zealot]

Business meeting in psyker chat

[frozen kernel]

It’s peak. Go jump thru all your hoops now and download everything before Sony pulls some nonsense and it becomes harder to get all the pieces. My phone recommended me an article that they went after the guy who made the OG 60fps patch back in the day

The difference between having an old version of Yuzu + TOTK when it was widely available vs having to track down and sus out a Google drive link just for one part

[pale herald]

so whats the most optimal way to complete "just a flesh wound" penance?

[lament blaze]

Train (though i did Oubliette), get yourself down below 50% health via red barrel or just give a horde a hug. play normally but make sure not to die

[pale herald]

i still never understood why the last one need to be done on private

[lament blaze]

Do not take any additional wounds. Makes you have to get even lower hp for the penance. Leave your martyrdom build at home.

You can take book if you dont feel super comfy on heresy. The fast missions are very fast and you really dont need to worry about the time limit

Because inting your HP away and pushing fast fast fast is bad for pub games

[pale herald]

i just meant in general with most penances

[grizzled aspen]

Because most of those penances, you'd basically be throwing to pull off in pubs.

[lament blaze]

Penances which enforce specific wonky play are made private only for the reason I said above. Someone wanting to get that penance and screwing with the team dynamic for it is best left for private games.

[grizzled aspen]

Trying to do 90% of a monster's hp with brain burst, for example, is annoying asf.

[pale herald]

ah valid

[pale herald]

it says 50% now

[pale herald]

which is book

[lament blaze]

You're still asking people to sit with their thumbs up they butt while you ping ping ping ping ping. People would (because people are entitled as heck) hop into pub lobbies and "ask" for people to let them do it then throw a temper tantrum when people kill the monster

[remote lark]

so if puncture doesn't work with scourge anymore
does that mean they're their own separate bleed buffs
how does that work

[lament blaze]

Chorus of spiritual fortitude

[spare talon]

where is this info coming from

[pale herald]

oh the holy brick as i call it

[remote lark]

it came to me in a dream
(someone here said scourge didn't work off of bolter puncutre anymore and i got confused)

[pale herald]

[spare talon]

and they said a wrong think

[remote lark]

ogei

[grizzled aspen]

It used to be 90%.

[grizzled aspen]

I was told by either Meow or Cica that puncture bleed is apparently exempt from allowing scourge procs when I commented on Yamato's crit hammer setup potentially abusing bistol puncture for scourge value.

[spare talon]

well thats just wrong
there is no seperate kind of bleed

[royal vortex]

hour 8 of slowmode

[hard nexus]

wasn’t me

[grizzled aspen]

🤷

[copper hawk]

YUMMERS DOESNT HALPE

[north sedge]

Annihlatin

[copper hawk]

[hard nexus]

who told u about puncture ?

[royal vortex]

words of wisdom

[copper hawk]

#zealot-class message misunderstood this

[remote lark]

erm... meow meow meow.. meow.. meow meoww.... meow meow meow.

un coal react me right now....

[grizzled aspen]

Can I throw rocks at you pretty please?

[hard nexus]

epic fail

:3

[frozen kernel]

Oh crap we broke the dog

[strong folio]

:3 asf

[copper hawk]

Look in psyker

[remote lark]

bonx

[grizzled aspen]

I've been ignored, kms.

[copper hawk]

KC D 2 TOMORROW !!!!!!

[misty ravine]

Kentucky Derby 2?

[fiery ingot]

BIG HYPE

[median steeple]

yippe !

[frozen kernel]

mocap HORS

[open bramble]

man relic blade is so braindead and strong

[remote lark]

Yes

[open bramble]

i've been using your mk10 build, and it trivializes the game

[remote lark]

Now try it with martyr. You'll kill like 3-4 enemies with every light. It's a better rashad.

[open bramble]

lol

[misty ravine]

I gotta say I'm feeling Cranial+Wrath even for Aurics these days, with Mk10 at least

[frosty herald]

1984

[copper hawk]

Time 2 do what i did the first game

Get past all the tutorial bullshit and learn 2 fight, then spend the whole time in the beginning killing shit before progressing the story

It made a lot of the story kinda funny w characters talkin down on hapless gormless henry despite the fact i had shit tons of money and good armor, w a maxxed out warfare stat w a bunch of other nearly maxxed stats + knowing how to read

[uneven galleon]

🐟

[copper hawk]

The furriez r aligned..

[fiery ingot]

hmmm eat too much until i get the fatso debuff yummy

[frozen kernel]

NMS rewarding my brainless deforestation grinding by telling me “lol u need a new material dipshit, that’s a lotta carbon tho”

[tawny walrus]

There's a 2nd one?

Oops wrong 'cord

[copper hawk]

https://open.spotify.com/track/5nsnu43FA5lR55GYEfVvQP?si=k1C1xdGbSOWT3VaT7x9a0A new earworm

[fiery ingot]

i thought i was about to get rick rolled in spotify for a moment

turns out it was just weeb song
im disappointed

good song tho

[remote lark]

@copper hawk

HELP

SOMEONE HELP MEEEE

[frozen kernel]

@remote lark Frog striking with an open palm tonight?

[remote lark]

he's drunk and beating me

[frozen kernel]

Next time make sure the red stim isn't cold when he's been up for 30+ hours

[stone fern]

you deserve it hes taking breaks from beating you to post awful takes in psyker chat

[grizzled aspen]

I'm leaving bruises man.

[remote lark]

8822995738

[stone fern]

no one asked

[remote lark]

hi rashad boy

[grizzled aspen]

I'm gonna be real bro we are gonna eat you.

[stone fern]

give me a week id like to throw one more mission before

[twin wagon]

that's lewd

[drifting wolf]

nope that's cannibalism

[stone fern]

frog isnt human hes just a vat of acid

[drifting wolf]

that's a good way to describe what a frog is to bugs and smaller frogs

[true kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-chat-dead-chat-skeleton-gif-25954239

[lean cairn]

Cause it's slow mode

[stone fern]

https://tenor.com/view/ericandre-gif-9555554

[true kindle]

mission achieved

[carmine falcon]

at this point this is looking like it's gonna be perma

[lunar fable]

[static sky]

Zealots gotta go slow sometimes. May as well be chat. Putting the brakes on isn’t that bad. At least we’re not heretics.

Or if you have an inquisitional mind. It’s heresy that they are forcing us into the equivalent of the black ships. We don’t deserve this prison!!!!!!!

[copper hawk]

Yo mama

[lunar fable]

[static sky]

Word to your mother as well my good fellow.

[copper hawk]

Yo mama

[lunar fable]

[fleet zealot]

Cat posted in psyker chat

[naive stirrup]

the rare time where zealot chat isn't a desolate wasteland of random bullshit is nice

[fleet zealot]

It still is idk what you are smoking

Now the random bullshit just lingers on the ground for 10x longer

[naive stirrup]

well you are one of the posters of random bullshit, even if it's ferrets

[opal star]

slowmode suck

[naive stirrup]

it does but it is needed

[acoustic dune]

think it as a quirk
we are fartshark special class

[opal star]

yeah we're special alright

[frosty herald]

[static sky]

They put us on slow mode to make ogryns feel included. Fricken dei or whatever… The Emperor is crying.

It’s a penance for our massive peni…..5535!!!! Zealots are GIGAMEGAALFACHADs

[spare dome]

not making a great case to have it removed

[static sky]

They can’t keep us down! We aren’t zealously zealous Zealots for no reason. I have faith the big Emps will see our future filled with basic functionality.

[wet skiff]

any fascal her?

[supple geode]

Do either of the relic swords work for the stealth back stab build? Or is thunder Hammer still the best choice?

[nimble basin]

Battle brothers, I've discovered the gospel of the combat knife. What's your nastiest or most enjoyable knife builds? I am feeling quite stabby.

[tawdry leaf]

@grizzled aspen @remote lark havoc tonight?

[grizzled aspen]

Perhaps.

[pale herald]

I always thought knife stealth builds were dumb

I see the vision now

[vague depot]

I would if I could in here lmao

[pale herald]

The usual stealth build but on the knife I use both brittleness on backstab and weak spot hit
Basically carving up scab ragers and crushers

[copper hawk]

i always thought knife stealth builds were dumb and i still do !! hawk TUAH

[merry flume]

wooo! get your blankets and pillows ready gamers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😴

[copper hawk]

blocked !

[ebon bobcat]

Okay nevermind, Zealot chat is still god damn insane

[misty ravine]

You dont have to be insane to main zealot but it sure helps

[ebon bobcat]

No, I mean ZEALOT CHAT

Don't you understand what a chat is? You simpleton

[misty ravine]

Presumably full of more zealot mains than others

[misty ravine]

You're a shrimpleton

[ebon bobcat]

Oh boy you'll be surprised when you see how this chat was before slow down and removed image perms

[misty ravine]

I've seen it, even contributed some

[copper hawk]

idk if u being a jerk is a bit skaven or if ur just a jerk

[opaque island]

how are our tides today everyone?

[twin wagon]

buff zealot

[spare talon]

[ocean talon]

I've been trying crusher and agr brauto out

And idk, can't take a liking to them. Brauto feels like it's a worse IAG no matter how I try to like it and crusher just feels off

[fiery ingot]

crusher requires some using to, it has some optmised combos depending on the situation and brautos are specific for close range use, usually taken when your melee weapon isnt fit for horde clearing, which isnt the crusher's case

[ocean talon]

I used Vraks in the past and love it but don't want to run the same gun on 2 builds, maybe Vigilant Columnus will work well? It should take care of special sniping

[spare talon]

Vigilant kinda suck, esp on zealot unfortunately

[fiery ingot]

i will always respect vraks players

[copper hawk]

Agri brauto should be fine for sniping with dance of death

[spare talon]

Brautos also become snipers when you pair it with dod

[ocean talon]

Ah, right, so that's why my corsshair was dancing constantly lol

Ok, I'll try to learn the playstyle, mechanicus skin for crusher is too good not to be used. Brauto also looks decent, it's just weird when I'm used to actually aiming

[ocean talon]

Hope we get like 10 build slots one day, would have room for a thunder hammer build

switched from slaughterer to brittlenes blessing on crusher and instantly 10 times better

[misty nova]

Raining like crazy while sun is scorching us
Simultaneously

[misty nova]

You just nerfed yourself 💀

[ocean talon]

Idk skullcrusher thunderous feels ok

Or maybe I'm getting used to the weapon? I'll change back maybe, what perks do you reccomend btw?

[stone fern]

headtaker thrust

[plush estuary]

never take skullcrusher off

[ocean talon]

I meant perks, as in dmg against what bonuses

[plush estuary]

flak unyielding, or flak elite

[ocean talon]

Ok, thx

[violet hornet]

Here's a crusher guide, it's in the pins if you need to find it later: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3127724964

[frosty herald]

Dont you mean the headhunter...

[copper hawk]

Joob hunter

[ebon bobcat]

I am jerk to insane people

[copper hawk]

Then go away !!

[median steeple]

truth nuke

[ebon bobcat]

Don't feel like it

[hard nexus]

they’re an xbox player

this explains

[copper hawk]

Then u consent 2 zealchat ribbing..

[ebon bobcat]

And a Ogryn main

[hard nexus]

my experience stands true,

also, abysmal dogshit being a prick!

[ocean talon]

Headhunter has been bad since forever lol

[violet hornet]

Seeing someone who's been here 5 months telling someone who's been here 20+ months that they should see how it once was is kinda hilarious NGL

[ebon bobcat]

Who prick? Not me, for sure

[hard nexus]

LMFAO yeah

[ocean talon]

Speaking of, I take it vigilant is servicable?

[violet hornet]

Yeah I kinda am

[ocean talon]

Nvm, I'll stick to Agrippina IAG to avoid brauto while not repeating vraks

[violet hornet]

See your own comment: #zealot-class message

[stone fern]

everything is serviceable except shredder pistol

[violet hornet]

(I hate them so they must be bad)

[ocean talon]

I was strictly thinking of graia lol

[violet hornet]

Agri brauto is good, just keep in mind it's generally more accurate when not braced

[ocean talon]

Yeah, but I guess the gameplay just is not for me, 3 games is not much to go by, but enough to tell me I need sights to have fun with a gun

[mighty root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1027335984964190312/1334043529244311592/sbbZSF6.gif

[fleet zealot]

Ferret posting to psyker chat, probably my favorite image for this month

[fleet zealot]

It’s very much a counterstrike/boomer shooter gun and i can see how it can be weird if you are used to the standard modern ads

[violet hornet]

I used to use it before I decided I'm only using ranged for stuff my melee is bad at so I'm pigeonholed into bolter or flamer depending on my melee weapon now

It's pretty good at deleting ragers and general gunners and shooters but the iag essentially fits the same role

Plus who wants a gun that's bad against armor

[fleet zealot]

Tbh only carapace which is a lot of guns tbh

[ocean talon]

I can't use flamer lol, whenever I try I get paranoid my teammates won't snipe elites

[carmine falcon]

knives

[sterile basalt]

Throwing knives help a lot

[obsidian prairie]

Just run tknives

[violet hornet]

Just hurl a knife 3 miles accurately to hit a sniper, it make take 8 of them but the satisfaction is worth it

[hard nexus]

i live for 60+ meter knives

[stone fern]

i live for 5m freakout knives into dreg rager chests

[spare dome]

one for each limb and then one in the head for good measure

[stone fern]

no head

[spare dome]

you dont have to bring my sex life into this

[violet hornet]

Nothing hurts more than tossing a knife and, during 3 seconds of airtime, having the plasma vet nail your target

[violet hornet]

Me panic tknifing the trapper within push range

[stone fern]

🤔 if you have maniac on your weapon it should be fine

[ocean talon]

I know, I usually run them anyway but idk, I prefer flames on psyker

Btw, I take back all of my crusher slander, I have since recognised the errors of my ways

[hard nexus]

similar feeling as sawing an ogryn with an evis and then watching the knife zealot one shot it while ur sawing

[obsidian prairie]

Just barrel the offender

[merry flume]

me when i cut the ogryn in half with the illisi force sword

[hard nexus]

hiiii vic

[hard nexus]

dealing 4k unyielding on a single empowered light